Military Review

The agricultural sector suffers losses

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One of the problematic industries related to the strategically important basis for the development of the state remains agriculture. The heap of problems that Russia's agricultural sector has managed to acquire does not yet allow the country to reach potential food security levels and export levels of high-quality food products. The root of the problem is the difficulties in the demographic situation in the countryside, in providing the population with jobs, in the investment policy of both the state and private structures.

According to estimates by state statistical agencies, over the past 13-14 years, the rural population of Russia has decreased by 3 million people (from 40 to 37 million). This information was voiced by President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the State Council. Government reports are far from rosy, although many independent experts are confident that they, too, say, are very powdered. In fact, the decline in the number of rural residents in the Russian Federation for the specified period of time still exceeds 10% of the original composition. Many villagers are sometimes simply forced to abandon their farm operations and move to the city for a number of reasons: the lack of a full-fledged village’s gas supply (the gasification process often proceeds with great creak), the lack of income satisfying the family’s needs, poor development (or complete lack of) roads to telephone).

To stop the process of migration from the villages to the cities, to ensure the full development of the Russian village, government programs seem to be running: subsidizing loans for private farms, issuing “lifting” grants to beginners, compensatory work on registration of land ownership documentation. However, programs do not always lead to positive results for the development of the agricultural industry. On paper, they bring, but in reality ...

Another problem is the reduction of agricultural land. So, since 2011, this area has decreased by about 4,5 million hectares. On a national scale (with a total agricultural land area of ​​approximately 390-400 million hectares), such a reduction does not seem fatal, but it has revealed itself more than an unpleasant tendency, and this is a precedent.

The agricultural sector suffers losses


The main reasons for excluding lands from the list of agricultural ones again seem to look quite good on paper: from increasing the area of ​​nature reserves to converting lands to a special category for laying pipelines for various purposes. It is practically impossible to carry out full monitoring of whether the “expanding” reserves and gas pipelines, which grow by kilometers, take away millions of hectares from agriculture, and whether land suddenly departs from the strategic fund for elite cottage settlements.

Reducing the area of ​​agricultural land, which is capable of bringing huge amounts of high-quality food products in Russia, looks more than strange against the background of how in a number of agricultural producing countries there is literally a struggle for every hectare of land with the aim of expanding its production former level. As one of such examples, we can consider China, where almost 20% of arable land today is polluted with toxic industrial wastes, in which heavy metals occupy a considerable percentage. The report of the Ministry of Environmental Protection of China, which was voiced by the Xinhua news agency at the end of last year, increased by about 50% the pollution of the fertile lands of the coastal provinces of the Middle Kingdom Cadmium from 1990. However, Chinese farmers are not eager to abandon agricultural production, even in contaminated land. One can imagine the quality of the products that the neighboring country grows on lands with an exorbitant content of heavy metals. And due to the more than widespread prevalence of Chinese agricultural products in the world, one can hardly be sure that such products are not on the shelves of the average Russian store “around the corner”.

In other words, the Chinese comrades identified their problem, but did not at all say no to growing agricultural products on lands of more than dubious quality. In our country, in this regard, the situation looks altogether paradoxical: we ourselves, with our own hands, take the fertile lands of excellent quality from the agricultural fund, declaring that there are enough land left in the fund “with head”, and then we suddenly think about why profit growth from s / x in Russia can not be achieved. With such an approach, forgive the hackneyed term, to the people's good, you can hope for as much as you want to subsidize agriculture and expect to increase its efficiency, but in the end there is a considerable risk of simply squandering farmland, with only one form of which the foreign "partners" are salivating.
When representatives of the regional delegation from Germany arrived in one of the districts of the Voronezh region and in one of the conversations they learned that instead of developing agrarian enterprises in the heart of fertile chernozems, they were going to open up nickel mining, they looked at each other, expressing bewilderment. To put it mildly, local residents express bewilderment about this, knowing full well that even in Soviet times, a ban was imposed on nickel mines on Khopra due to the threat to the eco-complex and the development of the agricultural sector in the region that feeds millions of Russians on bread.



However, more recently, Voronezh residents have a hope that nickel developments in fertile lands and lands of the local reserve will still freeze. People’s aspirations reached the Kremlin, and presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev stated in his letter:

Mass protests and justified demands of the population on the observance of their environmental rights and the preservation of the vital structure of these territories should be a decisive factor for stopping work in Prikhopyere.


Sergei Glazyev recalled that Russia is implementing a strategy for food security, which means it is criminal to eliminate truly powerful agricultural potentials.

It would be desirable to hope that in this and in other cases, support for the agricultural sector of the country, which is one of the foundations of Russia's security and commodity independence, will also be rendered in practice.
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  1. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 16 May 2014 08: 20
    +21
    Earth is our wealth, it must be protected. And we ruin it and do not value it. The Germans during the war even took her in echelons to their Reich.
    Agriculture must be raised and developed at an accelerated pace. Sanctions on travel abroad, to us on a drum. We will survive the sanctions on pieces of iron (even very good ones) and energy resources. But if it concerns food, then it will be much more difficult to say that it does not hurt us. I always want to eat.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 16 May 2014 08: 54
      +44
      The heap of problems that the agricultural sector of Russia has managed to build up so far does not allow the country to reach potential levels of food security and export levels of quality food products. The root of the problem is difficulties in the demographic situation in the countryside, (from the article)


      This is all nonsense. In Russia, one problem is its managerial class, the system of managing the economy, industry, agriculture, which was given to the looting of liberals and comprador oligarchs.
      At the head of the Government of the Russian Federation and ministries are inept people, ignoramuses and simply incapable people, except for organizing corruption and theft, and repeating the mantras: "the private owner is more efficient than the state", "the farmer-fist is the salvation of Russia", "only further privatization of state property will create an economic the growth and success of Russia ", etc. etc.
      To expel all liberals, headed by the incompetent Prime Minister of the Government of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev, from the Government and the system of government, state administration and simply WORK.
      Create the state backbone of a planned economy, build factories and state sectors of the economy in the main sectors of the economy that ensure state security, are able to compete with international corporations, state and collective farms in agriculture.
      Stop rattling about reducing the demographic situation in the village.
      Start creating large agricultural enterprises of various forms of ownership, create infrastructure and housing that meets modern conditions. People will go to the village with enthusiasm, unprecedented in the virgin lands of the 50s.
      It's time to throw away all the liberal tales about a "successful" farmer who can feed all of Russia to a landfill.
      Only large-capacity agricultural production is able to provide Russia with food security of the state.
      1. 225chay
        225chay 16 May 2014 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: vladimirZ
        At the head of the Government of the Russian Federation, ministries are sitting stupid, dunno and simply incapable people, except for the organization of corruption and theft,

        Enemies of the Russian people want to destroy our foundation - Agriculture and, accordingly, the village.
        That, in principle, we have been observing for a long time ...
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 16 May 2014 12: 56
          +7
          We not only observe, but we do with the stubbornness of an idiot. fool
        2. Starfish
          Starfish 16 May 2014 13: 43
          +4
          "The enemies of the Russian people want to destroy our basis - Agriculture and, accordingly, the village.
          That, in principle, we have been observing for a long time ... "

          these enemies are sitting in the state apparatus - and they have real power.
          I know from the inside. remember the national project "development of the agro-industrial complex"?

          within the framework of this project, a healthy amount was provided for concessional lending to personal subsidiary plots (LPH) and peasant farmers (PF). when the heads of private household plots and peasant farms learned about this, they reached out to the agricultural administration and to the Rosselkhozbank. knocking around, knocking around for six months, it didn't work out in any way !!!! issue papers and get a loan. This is how all the requirements in this national project are drawn up - there are unrealizable requirements, often absurd, were entered by "smart" people.

          in the regional Ministry of Agriculture they were terribly unhappy, and then the heads of the rural settlements were summoned to the regional administration and everyone was given an order to receive money. and now, almost crying (with the help of regional economists), the workers of the rural administration received loans for the development of "agriculture" - that is, to buy home appliances and furniture for themselves (during personal conversations they used to swear that they didn't need it, but if they were forced to take money, then they had to be spent somewhere).

          here you have the state support of the agro-industrial complex in Russia, I think a similar situation in all sectors.
          1. ArhipenkoAndrey
            ArhipenkoAndrey 17 May 2014 06: 30
            +3
            I absolutely agree with you, the enemies of agriculture in Russia within the government and not only in Moscow but at all levels in the regions, they crush not only farmers but also private farms on the principle of one with a bipod and seven with a spoon, and after all, bastards crush with taxes and feed prices, etc. they don’t let the peasants raise their heads, schools, post offices, bank branches are closed in rural areas, they force people to either leave or survive, it’s a pity the PRESIDENT is not yet up to it, but this is FOOD SECURITY of RUSSIA which could be more important.
        3. lapo32
          lapo32 21 May 2014 15: 50
          0
          Dear, reduced infertile, plowed land. so much is grown on the remaining that from a large importer, the country has turned into a serious exporter
      2. Alf
        Alf 16 May 2014 10: 12
        +5
        Quote: vladimirZ
        This is all nonsense. In Russia, one problem is its managerial class, the system of managing the economy, industry, agriculture, which was given to the looting of liberals and comprador oligarchs.
        Create the state backbone of a planned economy, build factories and state sectors of the economy in the main sectors of the economy that ensure state security, are able to compete with international corporations, state and collective farms in agriculture.

        What you just said can be translated in one word-NATIONALIZATION. But! Nationalization is impossible without one "small" condition - the SOCIALIST system.
        Kapstroy in any state behaves like a parasite, not like a "symbiont" that preserves the host, but a parasite that destroys its host. No wonder the classic said, "the state interferes with capital." As long as there are large owners in the state, there can be no talk of any kind of construction of a normal state. It may be objected to me that, they say, everything is fine in other countries. But, it is worth taking a closer look, and you can see the same problems, as they used to call - “social ulcers.” The same crime, corruption, unemployment, income gap, non-compliance with laws. Yes, Berlusconi was imprisoned, but the persons moving him, in whose interests he worked, remained free and "in the shadows."
        1. andj61
          andj61 17 May 2014 06: 58
          0
          Quote: Alf
          Nationalization is impossible without one "small" condition - the SOCIALIST system.

          It is possible! Apply the criteria of economic efficiency - and after warnings (there may be several, inspections by an authoritative commission), the claim is submitted to the land court, which is necessarily independent, and in a different region than the one in which the land is located - and a decision is made. Options are possible. Land is a very valuable resource and must be used efficiently, but not predatory.
          Without large agricultural producers, this is impossible.
          And enterprises can be state-owned, but capitalist.
      3. Palladium900
        Palladium900 16 May 2014 13: 35
        +6
        This is all nonsense. In Russia, one problem is its managerial class, the system of managing the economy, industry, agriculture, which was given to the looting of liberals and comprador oligarchs.
        And there is. I completely agree.
        1. Kisel
          Kisel 17 May 2014 22: 41
          +2
          To author Volodin Alexey +
      4. figter
        figter 17 May 2014 15: 46
        +1
        Indeed, what prevents the state in each district of the region from organizing at least one large agricultural enterprise, investing good money in it, purchasing advanced equipment, attracting advanced technologists, specialists, establishing decent wages for workers, a competition for jobs, benefits, etc. Assign each farm to research institutes, agricultural. academies, in order to control the correct use of land, the development of new varieties of crops. And all this is under the strict control of the state. Let these enterprises be unprofitable in the first years, but in a few years it would bear fruit. It seems to me that this is the only way to develop the countryside. In this case, you can start in Russia according to one military principle: "Do as I do!" To organize one exemplary farm somewhere in the suburbs and force the governors, under pain of losing their jobs, to do the same at the state expense. Only the incapable under such conditions will fail the task.
        1. aleksandrs95
          aleksandrs95 17 May 2014 22: 26
          0
          The word “state” should be stopped for a long time in asking intonation, the basis of the agro-industrial complex is the private investment, the state is only a co-founder in especially large projects. The guarantor is the infrastructure of the social sector. It is necessary to invest very large amounts, at the initial stage large strategic investors are needed, there are none to find foreign ones. Arab Emirates such investments would suit better than oil, it ends, and the reproduction of food as you understand it is NO.
    2. wax
      wax 16 May 2014 10: 44
      +7
      I always want to eat.
      Absolute and clear truth to everyone. Agriculture is the issue where everything is turned upside down. An agricultural worker feeds everyone: academics, industrialists, military, doctors, managers, bankers, insurers, transport workers ... - everyone, including himself. Thus, supporting everyone, he nowadays stands with outstretched hand, waiting for support! While all these people and authorities should do everything possible to develop agricultural work and release labor from them to work in the industry, so that the agricultural worker does not need anything, lives in the best conditions, has the best conditions perfect and productive equipment, modern technology. The breadwinner in the pose of the supplicant - well, is it not a mockery. And agricultural land in general should be confiscated only according to the decrees of the Government - you can’t cut the branch on which everything else sits with enthusiasm.
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 16 May 2014 19: 17
      +3
      I know firsthand what happened to our agriculture. My wife is from the Penza region. Every year I go to the village and see how it degrades. Yes, in theory, and villages - that, at least where my wife is from, will soon be gone. The people are dying out (the official statistics of births and deaths, taken from the district newspaper: 1k 13,9, that is, one was born in the region and 13,9 died, this is in 2009), the remaining youth leave, those who live in the villages are natural economy. They will live for what they have gathered from the garden. when there was a collective farm, the village was still alive, not everyone left, someone stayed. And now there is no collective farm, fields with the most beautiful black soil are overgrown with birch, many fields have already turned into forests. It hurts me for a city dweller to look at this, but the villagers gave up on everything. They all have the same answer: "And everything went to hell! Who needs us! On TV there is one nonsense about raising agriculture, but in reality it’s shish with butter!" It comes to ridiculous - milk in a store in the village is sold from Tatarstan !!! And the point is not the laziness of the people, they want to work on the land, but the fact is that no one wants to occupy them with this very business, the peasants themselves have no money.
    4. Komisare
      Komisare 18 May 2014 20: 13
      0
      Let's hope that sanctions will contribute to the development of our own economy!
      In principle, the rise in price of foreign imports can increase the competitiveness of our products, but this is unlikely, because it takes a lot of time to develop industries and maintain such conditions.
  2. mamont5
    mamont5 16 May 2014 08: 26
    +10
    Farmers are good, but farmers alone will not solve the problem. Although the product is of high quality, it is very expensive. We need large agricultural enterprises, something like Soviet "state farms," ​​at a qualitatively new level, naturally.
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 16 May 2014 12: 36
      +6
      The product is obtained, although high-quality, but very expensive.
      Do you think collective farms will be cheaper? I doubt it. In the USSR, agricultural was also subsidized. So far, as correctly noted here, in Russia capitalism remains for the better, neither of which will change. Educated people were needed only in the USSR, modern Russia needs consumers. hi
      1. 225chay
        225chay 16 May 2014 12: 47
        +2
        Quote: Gomunkul
        Do you think collective farms will be cheaper? I doubt it. In the USSR, agricultural was also subsidized.

        Well, it's okay, let it be subsidized. In Japan, peasants who grow rice on land receive huge subsidies from the state.
        But as their rulers say, we maintain the foundation of our country - a simple peasant
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 16 May 2014 13: 57
          0
          Well, it's okay, let it be subsidized.
          I don’t have anything against your statement. But the approaches to solving the problem are different, in the USSR - to give more products, with modern reality to get the maximum profit. hi
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      2. Lelek
        Lelek 16 May 2014 13: 07
        +2
        It will be cheaper if fireboxes, power engineers, chemists and mechanical engineers moderate their greed. It is clear that all of them will write out products for their "nemerynye" from over the hill, but how the rest of the people? This is where the state should intervene and reduce the burden on the agricultural producer - to give a hand to the monopolists. negative
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    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 16 May 2014 23: 47
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      The product is obtained, although high-quality, but very expensive.

      You say the product is expensive, but do you know how much it costs to produce this product?
    4. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 18 May 2014 08: 01
      +1
      To revive the normal agricultural. production in Russia, you need to make and implement simple decisions.
      1. Reduce interest rates on loans for the purchase, repair or construction of housing in rural areas.
      2. To reduce taxes and other requisitions for small and medium agricultural enterprises (farms).
      3. Reduce interest rates on loans for the purchase of equipment and machinery for small and medium-sized agricultural enterprises (farms).
      4. Create conditions for the normal sale by agricultural producers of their products.

      Only then can a positive result be achieved with food security for the country.
      And without all this, people will not even be interested in this, because for ordinary people everything is determined by simple concepts.
      If they see real returns and benefits from their labor, then they will be willing to do this. And no one will work for beggarly pennies, it just does not make sense, it will probably be different.
      There will be rebellion and civil war.
  3. parus2nik
    parus2nik 16 May 2014 08: 27
    +2
    Ospod, if you can figure it out, we can feed ourselves by the potential of ourselves and everyone else ... but in fact ... they feed us ..
  4. Strashila
    Strashila 16 May 2014 08: 28
    +15
    The state has eliminated itself where it is obliged to fulfill its duties, it itself has destroyed the stability points in rural areas, medical, educational, cultural institutions in the struggle to stabilize budgets.
    In fact, it is planned to destroy its figurative diamond fund of agriculture ... to privatize breeding stations .... in the place in order to support and develop them in every way they decided to simply destroy them ... AND THEY ARE A GUARANTEE OF INDEPENDENCE AND SECURITY IN AGRICULTURE.
    Already today from the West they are dragging any cheap rubbish called seed fund ... infecting the earth with any infection.
    The same is true for livestock.
  5. Stas
    Stas 16 May 2014 08: 50
    +9
    "According to estimates of state statistics bodies, over the past 13-14 years, the rural population of Russia has decreased by 3 million people"

    Hurray to the patriots. Open your eyes, turn on your brains, these are the years of the reign of GDP. And let someone prove to me that this is not a policy of destroying the peasantry and agriculture. But what about the country's food security? Why did the government destroy thousands of villages, villages and small towns with their actions / inaction? Why is the population, artificially creating cattle living conditions in the countryside, forced to leave everything and leave for the cities to earn money in order to simply feed and raise children?
    Questions mountain. But what to do with the answers?
    1. Klim
      Klim 17 May 2014 11: 24
      +1
      And I’ll explain to you one of the reasons that the rural population will continue to decrease, you look at what progress has been made over the past 20 years in agricultural machinery and agricultural production processing, remember how in Soviet times they drove from the enterprises for harvesting, these always broken combines and tractors and now grain dryers? And now the new combine replaces the entire fleet of harvesting equipment of 3 collective farms. And the last you give a rac proposal in the thought, let them again transfer to a horse drive and a plow, then jobs will quickly appear only hardly then he will want to go to these places as well as Russia and Kazakhstan are increasing their export of grain, oilseeds, and poultry more and more, this year they will most likely solve the problem of pork, there is only a problem with milk and cattle so that so many people don’t need in the village and it is necessary to create jobs in the city
      1. Stas
        Stas 17 May 2014 19: 46
        0
        Thanks for the answer. Yes, I do not like familiarity, mind you and I did not drink. But I will not stoop to your level. As a simple person, I don’t have to tell how spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater. I traveled a little in the Far East, Siberia, and indeed around the world, my horizons are serious. Yes, somewhere there is progress, but it is very small. On the shelves of the shops I see Egyptian, Israeli, European, Central Asian (easier to say which ones are not) vegetables and fruits, and Russian only by the remainder. Why is it so, because in your words the new combine replaces all the equipment of the three collective farms? Where are the products hidden, all taken out over the hill? And was she?
        He lived in southern Primorye for more than 25 years. Previously, there were many plowed lands there, rice, soybeans, corn, etc. were grown. Nowadays, abandoned villages are also mostly empty (although there are a lot of them in Siberia and Altai). Would you agree to leave your house in a village, a village and go in search of work in the city? (this is because people in the village are not needed). Jobs must be created for people on the ground, otherwise, according to your logic, the Far East and Siberia will be empty and 10-20 large cities and empty lands will remain.
        1. Klim
          Klim 18 May 2014 13: 12
          +1
          What can I say about vegetables and fruits, if it is more profitable to import them from abroad, then this must be done and we need to grow something that is more profitable and easier with minimal use of manual labor. And now about the abandoned villages, I have fired the stove all my youth and I know that this is when the street cools down for 35 frost and during the night and the children need to be led into the kindergarten (thank God there was a kindergarten) and melt to work and the stove and in the evening the same thing and I still lived in the city. And add for the villager his household and absence hospital for every document to the district center. And now, it’s better I have you with you, because your conclusions say that a young man who didn’t see life or the same witty clever man like N.S. Mikhalkov who did not hold a shovel in his hands but gives advice to everyone and all his whole life. Well, if such a smart ride, grow vegetables and fruits where the level of mechanization is a maximum of 25%, I'll see you have enough time to discuss with me
        2. Klim
          Klim 18 May 2014 13: 17
          0
          I forgot to add and how much you earn for this work
  6. 1812 1945
    1812 1945 16 May 2014 08: 50
    +7
    The article is very relevant. Russia is a Great Power with centuries-old traditions of producing excellent agricultural products, which was lost during the time of rapid industrialization. Now is the time and conditions to revive all the best that has been and introduce new environmentally friendly technologies (which many competitors in the food market cannot boast of). Thanks to Alexey for the article.
  7. talnax7
    talnax7 16 May 2014 09: 22
    +4
    Just the numbers in my store are potatoes from 150-200kg onions 130 C are sent to the navigation But under the price tags the inscription is Egyptian potatoes
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 16 May 2014 09: 38
      +1
      Quote: talnax7
      Just the numbers in my store are potatoes from 150-200kg onions 130 C are sent to the navigation But under the price tags the inscription is Egyptian potatoes

      And there is! Russian agricultural enterprises do not bother with vegetable growing! Vegetable farming is mainly practiced by small Korean and Kyrgyz (Dungan) artels. A feature of this industry is the abundance of manual labor. therefore
      large agricultural enterprises are oriented primarily on grains and oilseeds! The essence of the process is to increase labor productivity and minimize labor. Are used
      tractors on 500-600 horsepower of the guns capturing up to 18 meters, to generate 150-200 ha per shift! Workers are sorely lacking ...
      1. Ilja 22
        Ilja 22 16 May 2014 11: 09
        +4
        So who will work for 5-7 thousand !!
        Indeed, the rural hard worker feeds everyone, receiving pennies for his hard work, feeds those who give the same pennies to him, getting pocket 3-5 times more

        According to government statistics, over the past 13-14 years, the rural population of Russia has decreased by 3 million people

        in fact, this figure corresponds to a much shorter period of time !!
        and if lands suddenly leave the strategic fund for elite cottage villages, it is practically impossible.

        of course it’s impossible, it’s possible for the baby to understand that these same lands also go to the same sellers, who, when they donated pennies to the peasants, looked after themselves for the most beautiful and picturesque places, they wanted to settle
        the recovery process will take a lot of time, how many people are already singing that all kinds of programs are being implemented, but in reality everything continues to exist as before ..
    2. alekc73
      alekc73 16 May 2014 09: 59
      +5
      we have potatoes in the Altai 100 rubles. bucket, but there is no sale. you will not grow up. offsets of southern nationality offer 8-10 rubles. per kg maximum.
      1. dik-fort
        dik-fort 16 May 2014 10: 47
        +9
        In the early 90s we opened a farm, at first we planted 10 hectares for potatoes, there was labor for harvesting, then 4 hectares, at the beginning of 2000 - 2 hectares, in the mid-2000s - 1 hectare, for the last 4 years we have planted 0,25 hectares ... There are no people to clean up, the people who are called "hard workers" have died out all over the years, schools have refused to help for a long time, so that children work for some farmer, plus delivery to the field is a problem, all through the traffic police. The problem with sales, how these tenders were introduced, are won by entrepreneurs close to the management of budgetary institutions, who do not sow or plow. Labor force has risen at times, fuels and lubricants, electricity, fertilizers, which are still a problem to buy in small wholesale. Concerning land problems, in 1993 we entered into an agreement with the local administration on leasing land for farming for 49 years, and 19 years later it turned out that federal land, moreover, belongs to the forest fund, although the land is not forest. It is IMPOSSIBLE to transfer from the forest fund to agricultural purposes, only at the level of the Government of the Russian Federation, and if you hire an intermediary, they will take 1 million rubles without guarantees and a period of at least 3 years. They paid 70 thousand for surveying, and then you have to go to the auction, but if you lose, no one will return the money for surveying. Here's the truth about Russian agriculture, who will deal with it in such conditions? And for comparison, in the Soviet years, diesel fuel cost 4 kopecks per liter, and potatoes 12-16 kopecks per kilogram, several times more expensive, but now?
        1. 225chay
          225chay 16 May 2014 12: 50
          +2
          Quote: dik-fort
          Problems on land, in 1993 they entered into an agreement with the local administration to rent land for farming for 49 years, and after 19 years it turned out that the federal land, moreover, belongs to the forest fund, although the land is not forest. It is IMPOSSIBLE to transfer from the forest fund to agricultural use only at the level of the Government of the Russian Federation, and if you hire an intermediary, they will take 1 million rubles without guarantees and for a period of at least 3 years. 70 thousand were paid for the survey, and then you have to go to the auction, but if you lose, no one will return the money for the survey. Here you have the truth about agriculture in Russia, who will deal with it in such conditions? And for comparison, in Soviet times, diesel fuel cost 4 kopecks per liter, and potatoes 12-16 kopecks per kilogram, several times more expensive, and now?


          PARASITES - officials raked everything under themselves and do not give a roll without a rollback
      2. Sour
        Sour 16 May 2014 13: 32
        0
        Quote: alekc73
        we have potatoes in the Altai 100 rubles. bucket, but there is no sale. you will not grow up. offsets of southern nationality offer 8-10 rubles. per kg maximum.

        A bucket of potatoes - about 8 kg.
        100 rubles per bucket - 12 rubles per kg.
        Not much different from the prices offered by resellers. If anything, they also need to pay something for gas, because they will take the potatoes to sell in the city.
        How much gasoline costs, you hopefully in the know.
        So everything is very simple.
  8. okunevich_rv
    okunevich_rv 16 May 2014 09: 36
    +2
    All developed countries protect their agricultural sector, however, in our embraced, some figures decided that agriculture in our country is not profitable due to climatic conditions, and therefore it is advisable to conduct food purchases in temperate countries. These figures to this day are in state. institutions of the Russian Federation.
    To this day, the situation can be rectified only with the direct intervention of the head of state in this problem.
    The peasant has no incentive to engage in agriculture, when fuel and lubricants are more expensive than fodder, and fodder is comparable to the cost of finished products. Salaries in rural areas are not more attractive than in Tajikistan. I will say so much about agricultural machinery and its price, but it is very expensive.
    I will add to everything else the labor in the village is very difficult, but not of any prestige, but they pay nicely in the office in the warmth.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 16 May 2014 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: okunevich_rv
      All developed countries protect their agricultural sector, however, in our embraced, some figures decided that agriculture in our country is not profitable due to climatic conditions, and therefore it is advisable to conduct food purchases in temperate countries. These figures to this day are in state. institutions of the Russian Federation.


      our government officials and other political figures consider it the most important to squander and sell the land’s property.
      Although some have seized in their ownership fat pieces of hundreds and even thousands of hectares of land.
      here even take at least this cunning beetle Migalkin, somewhere I read it, it seems several thousand hectares in the Vologda region ...
      Wrought-iron manor house
      And even the road to it was built at the expense of the district budget
  9. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 16 May 2014 09: 38
    +12
    from the Don.
    80-90. Our seed-growing economy is in the forefront. Workers are about 2000 people. 2014.-Livestock killed, patch-quilt fields. Workers, God forbid, people. 100! Traders plume, private elevators, dictating prices, predatory loans, etc. , etc.! In general, there are not enough words, ONE Tears!
  10. saag
    saag 16 May 2014 09: 39
    +4
    Well this is not the military-industrial complex, not the Olympics and other World Cups
  11. Egoza
    Egoza 16 May 2014 09: 39
    +13
    And here you can (and should) take an example from Belarus! Applying modern management methods and the latest technology, not forgetting the clear requirements of GOST and checking officials. I can not help but quote a passage ...
    “What is special about this vaunted sausage for 2,20?” - Young people are now surprised, who did not make the Soviet era. Nothing special, a mere trifle - just sausage made from meat!...
    The revival of Russian sausages took place when the Soviet government was firmly established in Russia. Namely, in April 1936, the People’s Commissar of the Food Industry Anastas Mikoyan signed an order for the production of new meat products: Doctor's, Amateur, Tea, Veal and Krakow sausages, Dairy sausages and Hunting sausages.
    [img]http://lh5.ggpht.com/-xveyklGwUHw/Uk8nZk1DCRI/AAAAAAAGR2w/u9wHoci3HXI/d674a
    5e9d9e2ef99465442d02e0_prev_thumb%255B19%255D.jpg?imgmax=800[/img]


    The recipe for "people's health correction" was verified to the smallest detail: 100 kg of sausage contained 25 kg of premium beef, 70 kg of semi-fat pork, 3 kg of eggs and 2 kg of cow's milk. "
    XXXX
    Yes, the war, then the restoration, the GOSTs were changed, but things never reached such swinishness as now, when each owner sets "his own standards". It's time to give hands!
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 16 May 2014 15: 14
      +1
      You, my friend, didn’t eat Ukrainian sausage, it looks like. Something boiled from plastic bottles, marsh water, pearl barley, with thickeners, antioxidants, amplifiers. If anyone goes to Ukraine in the summer, and even to Crimea, bring normal food with you. On vacation should be enough. Bread, pasta and vegetables are normal. But meat and dairy products ... By the way, Crimea this year will be with fruit. Cherries, cherries, apricots with all kinds of peaches.
      1. andj61
        andj61 17 May 2014 07: 07
        0
        Quote: eugene
        .If someone will go to Ukraine in the summer, and even to the Crimea, bring normal products with you.

        I confirm. I was in Crimea several years ago, I wanted to take normal sausages by car, I didn’t find it, even expensive, and in our large supermarkets there are dozens of items from various manufacturers.
  12. SPLV
    SPLV 16 May 2014 09: 57
    +6
    lack of full gas supply to the village (the gasification process often takes place with a big creak)

    What is the gas supply of the village if dozens of cities in Russia do not have access to natural gas using propane-butane mixture in cylinders?
    lack of family income

    Where does the income come from if the tractor is in scrap metal? Do you know how much feed and fertilizers cost today? How many people refused to keep livestock, poultry, or kept in a minimum amount? And what is the average age of the working-age population employed in agriculture?
    Previously, they tried to detain young people in the countryside by clubs - did it help? The question is different: when the beloved state makes it possible to receive decent income for labor, and not for buying and selling, then all production (including agricultural) will begin to grow. For a start, it would be possible to bring taxation of the largest mining enterprises to places, spend less money in the capitals. In my city, medicine is being relegated, although the Central District Hospital is the largest within a radius of 300 km (there are more than 300 to the regional center), many doctors are paid little to earn money, they have to work hard for days. And next to it is a trade representative for beer or cosmetics, who gets 2-3 times more! The question is, why the heck learns, work, when can you trade beer? And you about the rise of agriculture ... "Peacocks, you say ..."
  13. Cristall
    Cristall 16 May 2014 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: talnax7
    Just the numbers in my store are potatoes from 150-200kg onions 130 C are sent to the navigation But under the price tags the inscription is Egyptian potatoes

    Wow ... yes the question is why bring Egyptian potatoes, if Polish and probably even Belarusian is cheaper?
    We have foreign-made potatoes in supermarkets - they are usually more expensive than local ones. Hryvnia for 5 (15 rubles), and so in the city you can from 7-8 UAH (24 rubles market Privoz) to 15 UAH (Buffet buffet-Polish)
    But onions are often more expensive than potatoes - up to 15 UAH (from 10-12 UAH) 45 rubles
    Better young potatoes-15 UAH (up to 18) 45 rubles ...
    Do you have a store in which city? Why is navigation so expensive? Or a Gazelle to Irkutsk? Just kidding but expensive .... just recently we could buy a bag at 4.5 UAH (at that rate in rubles 18 rubles) - in the spring, vegetables that are either young or old from the warehouse are always expensive ...
    I’ll look at the internet how much is Belorussian wholesale and Ukrainian
    The first is 18 rubles kg
    The second is from 5 to 7.2 UAH .. per kg wholesale .. (15-25 rubles)
    1. andj61
      andj61 17 May 2014 07: 10
      0
      Quote: Cristall
      Yes, the question is why carry Egyptian potatoes, if Polish and probably even Belarusian is cheaper?

      Bryansk region is a major producer of potatoes. 2013 - they sell cars on the markets - the price is 10-12 rubles per 1 kg, mainly Azerbaijanis. The purchase price is 5-7 rubles per 1 kg. 1 rubles per XNUMX kg is the prime cost.
  14. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 16 May 2014 10: 25
    +5
    What nafig agricultural policy in Russia? They carry potatoes from Israel, on the map you can’t see where Israel is without a magnifying glass, and nevertheless they export agricultural products to Russia, except it can not be called a shame. For the money that was thrown out for the purchase of food abroad, a food paradise could be created in Russia. Russia and the food problem are a paradox.
  15. suharev-52
    suharev-52 16 May 2014 10: 31
    +13
    The topic covered in the article is huge. And in one note it is simple - simply not to discuss it. I will try to consider it from personal experience. In the early 2000s, he registered KX. I spent 5 years in order to obtain ownership of the land, and then only after I had to participate in the "dubious" redemption of land shares. But now the land is framed. I took out 1,5 million loans from Rosselkhozbank and purchased equipment with them. In winter - logging (so that there was something to pay loans from) in summer - ennoblement of own land, hay and other agricultural work. In 2008 (with the participation of the former governor of the Vologda region), the Forest Code was adopted and the forest became inaccessible to farmers. Diesel fuel prices are growing every quarter, but so far we are fluttering. Default. Delay in payments. Bank refusal to re-credit. By the way, I have never been able to receive the 12% repayment promised by the state. Through the court, the RSHB hangs on me another 0,5 million penalties, but I still have to pay 400 thousand. Well, here again, almost a million debt. Taking off my last skin, I pay 200 thousand. 700 remains. They arrest equipment, take it out and sell it for 700, although it is in perfect condition and 3 tractors, taking into account wear and tear, cost more than a million. No one carried out the assessment, they estimated it by the year of release in Vologda without leaving the place. The loan was closed. And I still owe 35 thousand. The result of the work. More than 2 million paid out. No equipment. A mountain of papers has been written. A lot of nerves were spent. Some checks of all kinds of offices and fines are tired. Now they are trying to withdraw the land as not being used, although it is owned. And the fact that tens of thousands of hectares are overgrown in the Vologda region does not bother any of the officials. With regard to youth. The majority of those with whom I spoke, this smelly city (Cherepovets) is unnecessary. We agree to work in the village for 8-10 thousand, but there is no work at all. So this is a very sore subject. And all these reports of success in grain export are lies. We export hard varieties, but we ourselves are forced to eat fodder varieties (i.e., low-quality bread). In the Vologda region, the livestock of cattle has decreased 20 times in 5 years. And I don't know what Vologda oil will be made of. Sincerely.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 16 May 2014 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: suharev-52
      The topic covered in the article is huge. And in one note it is simple - simply not to discuss it. I will try to consider it from personal experience. In the early 2000s, he registered KX. I spent 5 years in order to obtain ownership of the land, and then only after I had to participate in the "dubious" redemption of land shares. But now the land is framed. I took out 1,5 million loans from Rosselkhozbank and purchased equipment with them. In winter - logging (so that there was something to pay loans from) in summer - ennoblement of their own land, harvesting hay and other agricultural work. In 2008 (with the participation of the former governor of the Vologda region), the Forest Code was adopted and the forest became inaccessible to farmers. Diesel fuel prices are growing every quarter, but so far we are fluttering. Default. Delay in payments. Bank refusal to re-credit. By the way, I have never been able to receive the 12% repayment promised by the state. Through the court, the RSHB hangs on me another 0,5 million penalties, but I still have to pay 400 thousand. Well, again, almost a million debt. Taking off my last skin, I pay 200 thousand. 700 remains. They arrest equipment, take it out and sell it for 700, although it is in perfect condition and 3 tractors, taking into account wear and tear, cost more than a million. No one carried out the assessment, they estimated it by the year of release in Vologda without leaving the place. The loan was closed. And I still owe 35 thousand. The result of the work. More than 2 million paid out. No equipment. A mountain of papers has been written. A lot of nerves were spent. Some checks of all kinds of offices and fines are tired. Now they are trying to seize the land as not being used, although it is owned. And the fact that tens of thousands of hectares are overgrown in the Vologda region does not bother any of the officials. With regard to youth. The majority of those with whom I spoke, this smelly city (Cherepovets) is unnecessary. We agree to work in the countryside for 8-10 thousand, but there is no work at all. So this is a very sore subject. And all these reports of success in grain export are lies. We export hard varieties, but we ourselves are forced to eat fodder varieties (i.e., low-quality bread). In the Vologda region, the livestock of cattle has decreased 20 times in 5 years. And I don’t know what Vologda oil will be made of.


      Officials - JACALS !!!
      bloodsuckers - worse than with tsarism ...
  16. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 16 May 2014 10: 37
    +5
    Nothing else! When our kremlins ruin agriculture altogether, they will come to feed our partners humanists with cookies and democracy will continue!
  17. Spartakovich
    Spartakovich 16 May 2014 10: 40
    +4
    agricultural development strategy in the Russian Federation is simply not available. continuous populism
  18. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 16 May 2014 11: 03
    +4
    Good news.
    "In Crimea, pipeline troops put into operation a section of the pipeline supplying fresh water /
    The divisions of the pipeline battalion of the logistic support team of the Western Military District (ZVO) completely completed the assembly of the 5-kilometer section of the pipeline and began to supply fresh drinking water from the artesian well to the city of Old Crimea in the south-east of Crimea.

    Every day the pipeline delivers about 2 thousand cubic meters of water. At the same time, the assembly of branches of the main pipeline to other cities and towns continues.

    In total, field trunk pipelines with a total length of more than 125 km and a capacity of more than 9 thousand cubic meters of water per day will be deployed on the peninsula.

    Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu made the decision to engage MTO units to deliver fresh drinking water to settlements in the southeast of Crimea in early May. "Http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49616/#cut
  19. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 16 May 2014 11: 14
    +2
    Not so bad.
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49569/#cut"Россия переходит на собственный рис. В прошлом году собрали рекордный урожай: 976 тыс. тонн. Немного недотянули до обещанного миллиона, но всё впереди. Это направление растёт такими темпами, что скоро страна превратится в крупного рисового экспортёра.

    Rice is not without reason called bread number two. According to the UN agricultural organization (Faostat), in 2014 the world wheat crop will reach 702 million tons. In total, grain will harvest 2,4 billion tons, of which rice - 500 million tons. It turns out that the share of rice and bread in the nutrition of the planet’s population is close.

    In Russia, however, a different alignment. Last season, 91,3 million tons of grain were harvested. Wheat accounted for 52 million tons - 52 times more rice. Interestingly, rice imports are relatively small: in 2013, 255 thousand tons were purchased. At the same time, 161,6 thousand tons of our rice were exported! It turns out that in total for the year in the Russian Federation they ate 1,07 million tons of second bread.

    The conclusion suggests itself: the Russian Federation can easily fully provide itself with this culture. And also provide its neighbors. Fortunately, there is a rice renaissance in the yard; production sets record after record. In the early 1990s the area of ​​land under rice crops reached 286 thousand hectares. But the yield was low: 23–32 centners per hectare. At worst for rice in 1997, the indicator dipped to 150 thousand hectares. It was spinning around the low point until 2004, after which rapid growth began. In the record year 2011, 211 thousand ha were sown with rice. At the same time, productivity was 1,5 times higher than the best Soviet indicators, reaching 55 c / ha. As a result, the collection set a historical record - 1,056 million tons. True, in the next two years there was a slight pullback. Nevertheless, in 2014, more than 200 thousand hectares will be allocated for rice. Harvest is expected - over a million tons.

    The main question is why? It seems that the Russian Federation is not a rice power. Rice yields cannot be compared with Indian or Thai. After all, we have a risky farming zone; moreover, rice is harvested in the Russian Federation once a year, and not two or three times, as in Asia. But not so simple. It turns out that rice is more important to us than buckwheat. According to the agency "BusinessStat", it accounts for 29% of the consumption of cereals, while buckwheat - 25%. Another fact: rice is eaten more in Russia than in Europe. In our country, finished consumption is 4–5 kg per capita per year, while in the EU it is 2–3 kg.

    So the demand is huge. Fortunately, in 2005 there was a rice fracture. Until that time, half of the amber cereal had to be imported. Then the rice balance leveled in favor of the Russian Federation. In 2011, rice exports from Russia exceeded imports for the first time. 82,4 thousand tons were sold abroad, 75,6 thousand tons were imported. In general, since 2005, rice imports have fallen by 90%.

    According to experts, in 2014, rice exports will exceed 250 thousand tons. For comparison: in 2005, only 6 thousand tons of rice were exported abroad. Of course, the volume of Russian exports cannot be compared with Vietnamese or Indian - there the bill goes by many millions of tons. The fact itself is important: the overproduction of this culture has begun in Russia, the domestic market is full, and goods are torn abroad. According to customs statistics, the main buyers of Russian rice are Turkey, Kazakhstan, Libya and Azerbaijan. Turkey takes raw rice from us to load its rice processing facilities. The rest of the country buys rice groats.
  20. talnax7
    talnax7 16 May 2014 11: 24
    +1
    The city of Norilsk navigation ended the marine River will be in June such an office version But then the prices do not fall Meat pork beef. Bourgeois The truth is Belarusian
  21. Gray 43
    Gray 43 16 May 2014 11: 32
    +3
    Previously, large enterprises patronized state farms, maybe now they can learn from experience - Skolkovo could take care of more than one region
  22. sledge
    sledge 16 May 2014 12: 05
    +3
    If the money allocated by the state in the form of subsidies and relatively inexpensive loans were not stolen by individual farm managers, but would go directly to the needs of agriculture .....
  23. lawyer
    lawyer 16 May 2014 12: 11
    +6
    in our Vladimir region, all land is overgrown with forest, they don’t sow nichrome, and go ask the authorities for land to work, so it’s not profitable to pay such a rental price. thanks to all the dumb managers
  24. Nitarius
    Nitarius 16 May 2014 13: 03
    +3
    the main trouble .... the state really does not give the people land! and does not help!
    it is necessary to close FROM Beyond the hill MOVEMENT! ALL-soybeans and palm oil! THEN and WILL BE WITH US
    1) SOW-BREAD
    2) TO GET GOOD OIL - NEED TO FEED THE COW AND IT NEEDS WHEAT AND OAT!
    THAT'S ALL!


    PLUS -WORKING IN THE VILLAGE -TURNED IN WHAT THAT-HUMILIATION! For the farmer!
    She, like the miners, DOESN'T NEED ANYONE!
    1. Kolovrat77
      Kolovrat77 16 May 2014 13: 13
      0
      Quote: Nitarius
      TO GET GOOD OIL


      it is necessary to have a milkmaid .... to have a cow .... well to have available, but what do you think.
  25. Farvil
    Farvil 16 May 2014 14: 12
    +2
    The authorities are all just crooks and a fifth column, officials are busy stuffing pockets and cutting the budget, and then grass doesn't grow after them, and professionals who can and know how to make the country and people rich are cut off on take-off, because the incompetence of power during their passage will be obvious. change the power system in a country where everything is clearly spelled out from A to Z.
  26. suharev-52
    suharev-52 16 May 2014 14: 44
    +3
    Gray. For Skolkovo, special thanks to the state. Medvedev. He did not find any other place for accommodation, only as in the fields of a breeding station, where work was carried out to develop new high-yielding varieties of wheat. I don’t know what to call it: idiocy or wrecking.
    R.S. Yes, there they recalled Mikhalkov with his tower under a copper roof above. So, for sure, he has his own hunting estate along the banks of Sukhona with an area (if memory serves) of 12 hectares of forests and meadows. I got it thanks to the friendship with the ex-governor of the state. Pazgalyov, who hid from criminal prosecution within the walls of the State Duma, having previously left the donor region with debts of 000 billion. Sincerely.
  27. Eugene
    Eugene 16 May 2014 15: 16
    +1
    We saw enough farmers in Crimea. Harvested something like that, bought a wheelbarrow, made a repair in the hut, everything. Life was good! And who the city will feed like is not his business. That's where collectivization came from.
  28. 52
    52 16 May 2014 18: 15
    0
    Quote: Palladium900
    This is all nonsense. In Russia, one problem is its managerial class, the system of managing the economy, industry, agriculture, which was given to the looting of liberals and comprador oligarchs.
    And there is. I completely agree.

    And I strongly agree! Cut, cut this liberist-in-your-pocket-class! And the survivors, to restore agriculture, even with manure.
  29. Don Reba
    Don Reba 16 May 2014 18: 32
    +3
    Dear and respected comrade Stalin and comrades, before transferring the agriculture of the USSR to collective farm rails, they found out for themselves the following:
    1. Before the revolution, the main share of agricultural products was given by large farms.
    2. After the revolution, in the absence of large agricultural enterprises, small and medium-sized agricultural producers began to grow and produce agricultural products less than before the revolution. The problem has become a full story - how to feed the city?

    That's when the course was taken to create large agricultural enterprises, which we called collective farms. The result is obvious - the growth of agricultural production has grown from 3 to 4 times in various positions over several years. The state provided collective farms with machinery, fertilizers, agronomists, etc. State land, machinery too, the collective farmer owned only the results of labor. The collective farms were not subsidized until Khrushchev intervened and transferred agricultural machinery to the balance of the collective farms. It was with the initiatives of Khrushchev that collective farms began to bend.
  30. pilot8878
    pilot8878 16 May 2014 18: 47
    +2
    Quote: vladimirZ

    Create the state backbone of a planned economy, build factories and state sectors of the economy in the main sectors of the economy that ensure state security, are able to compete with international corporations, state and collective farms in agriculture.
    Stop rattling about reducing the demographic situation in the village.
    Start creating large agricultural enterprises of various forms of ownership, create infrastructure and housing that meets modern conditions. People will go to the village with enthusiasm, unprecedented in the virgin lands of the 50s.
    It's time to throw away all the liberal tales about a "successful" farmer who can feed all of Russia to a landfill.
    Only large-capacity agricultural production is able to provide Russia with food security of the state.


    Let me add more:
    1. Forced stimulation of a person to work. In the post-Soviet period, a shift in consciousness of the population took place. A simple example: I am 36 years old, ALL of my classmates remaining in the village have drunk. Nobody wants to work. Left the city - engaged in trade. In my opinion, quite indicative.
    2. In the northern regions of Russia, agriculture is a high-risk industry. And so it’s not very profitable, it depends heavily on external meteorological factors: temperature, precipitation, etc. A small private farmer will not be able to produce a STABLE agricultural product, will not be able to purchase new equipment, new livestock and varieties of seeds in conditions of unstable income. . Fund In the end, the very concept of NEW breeds and varieties can be forgotten, since there will be no one to engage in breeding, because a small farmer will not support a research institute. Again we return to the thought of collective farms.
  31. wei
    wei 16 May 2014 21: 19
    +3
    One farmer, the province has forgotten, seeing the uncultivated land under the power lines
    - I’ll do a good deed of uprooting a weed and a bush, fertilize it and sow it with forage. So did.
    The prosecutor's office courts and all crap. Moreover, everyone says that he not only did no harm, but also did the work for the network. But all the same, they will be held accountable for arbitrariness AND THE MAIN THING will make everything return as it was (probably remove the top layer of the earth after filling up everything with a windbreak)
    I understand that someone will not cut the dough for clearing, but all the same insanity ...
  32. leo44
    leo44 16 May 2014 22: 42
    +1
    Remember !!! Here you have a grandmother and St. George’s Day, as they say! I haven’t seen anything in the fields except weeds for a long time !!! Good morning! Looks like uproots went uphill, roosters woke someone!
  33. sledge 82
    sledge 82 16 May 2014 23: 21
    +6
    The small farmer himself. Talking that they are fleeing the village due to lack of leisure and city amenities is complete nonsense. The main thing is NOT WORK !!! Not everyone is able to open their own business and the guys on duty on duty and in Moscow have to go around right after the army. Most are ready to return home, but nowhere - all the farms are destroyed. But now Europe and half the world feed us. So the main thing is how work in each village used to be. And people will begin to stay and children will be born. And today's help to the village is another dough cut.
  34. Polarfox
    Polarfox 17 May 2014 13: 13
    +2
    I agree with Sanya 82. I know the problem firsthand, although in Kazakhstan, and not in Russia, but it is the same, both there and there. However, I allow myself to note that the arbitrariness of large farmers, often hiring people for pennies, and their complete lack of control by the state play an important role in the devastation in the countryside. I'm not saying that every farmer is a fist and a world-eater, but there are enough of them. Plus, the traditional plundering of farmers by officials: earned something - share it, otherwise you will not see the promised soft loans or government subsidies.

    Another problem that almost all journalists and analysts writing about the village are bashfully avoiding is the depravity of a significant share of the rural population by forced idleness in the nineties and zero, when state and collective farms robbed and sold left and right. Some workers simply lost the habit of normal systematic work, preferring to break into casual work and getting bogged down in drunkenness. And this part is pretty significant. It is almost impossible to make such a person work normally, marginals go into a state of binge as soon as they receive money on hand. These people are practically powerless and unpromising; they are forced to work literally for a bowl of soup. Yes, no one else will pay, because the qualifications are usually lost, there is no reliability in such an employee, he can drink it at any time, the quality of work is worse than during the time of slavery, because the slave could work well out of fear of punishment, and there is nothing to be afraid of the marginal .

    There is one more thing: the psychological resistance of the post-Soviet person to work for someone. That is, a person agrees to work in a state economy, like a state farm. But he will not work for a specific personified neighbor Peter or Vasily. The argument is simple: "Am I a farm laborer, or what?"

    And the last, very important circumstance: the rapid aging of agricultural personnel and the lack of a shift for them. Experienced farmers and livestock farmers are now in the best case of pre-retirement age. There are very few young people interested in agriculture. These are the consequences of urbanization, youth leaves for cities. Yes, part of such youth can be kept in the village, creating acceptable conditions there, that is, by providing housing and work, providing places in kindergartens and the possibility of normal leisure activities. But ensuring a high quality of life in the countryside requires serious appropriations, which farmers are now incapable of. If under a planned economy this was done by state farms and collective farms, then the current, barely making ends meet, business executives can not pull the social sphere. For some reason, everyone places their hopes on the state. But does he, the state, have the means and capabilities to restore normal life in every village? In my opinion, no.

    Where is the exit? I do not know. "If I knew the buy-in, I would live in Sochi." But it seems to me that agriculture cannot be raised without exerting efforts and serious financial injections. It is subsidized and subsidized all over the world, why should it be self-sustaining?
  35. Bayun
    Bayun 17 May 2014 15: 55
    +1
    For a farmer in the Russian Federation, it is best to work for a specific "master": the owner of a large company in a city, preferably a regional or capital city; providing food for him personally, a cafeteria for employees and a store for employees. You can also find specific low-income and retired people in the nearest city who will be ready to buy your crop DIRECTLY at a reasonable price, and help in harvesting for a discount. It is advisable to have your own sales clerk to work for you, starting to resolve sales issues even before the sowing season, and not in the fall. And not in any way play any games with "state support" and bank loans.
  36. vova1973
    vova1973 18 May 2014 07: 04
    +1
    Quote: Klim
    And I’ll explain to you one of the reasons that the rural population will continue to decrease, you look at what progress has been made over the past 20 years in agricultural machinery and agricultural production processing, remember how in Soviet times they drove from the enterprises for harvesting, these always broken combines and tractors and now grain dryers? And now the new combine replaces the entire fleet of harvesting equipment of 3 collective farms. And the last you give a rac proposal in the thought, let them again transfer to a horse drive and a plow, then jobs will quickly appear only hardly then he will want to go to these places as well as Russia and Kazakhstan are increasing their export of grain, oilseeds, and poultry more and more, this year they will most likely solve the problem of pork, there is only a problem with milk and cattle so that so many people don’t need in the village and it is necessary to create jobs in the city
    You are familiar with agricultural digests in advertising magazines. Not a damn thing know agricultural production
  37. vova1973
    vova1973 18 May 2014 07: 12
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir1960
    Not so bad.
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49569/#cut"Россия переходит на собственный рис. В прошлом году собрали рекордный урожай: 976 тыс. тонн. Немного недотянули до обещанного миллиона, но всё впереди. Это направление растёт такими темпами, что скоро страна превратится в крупного рисового экспортёра.

    Rice is not without reason called bread number two. According to the UN agricultural organization (Faostat), in 2014 the world wheat crop will reach 702 million tons. In total, grain will harvest 2,4 billion tons, of which rice - 500 million tons. It turns out that the share of rice and bread in the nutrition of the planet’s population is close.

    In Russia, however, a different alignment. Last season, 91,3 million tons of grain were harvested. Wheat accounted for 52 million tons - 52 times more rice. Interestingly, rice imports are relatively small: in 2013, 255 thousand tons were purchased. At the same time, 161,6 thousand tons of our rice were exported! It turns out that in total for the year in the Russian Federation they ate 1,07 million tons of second bread.

    The conclusion suggests itself: the Russian Federation can easily fully provide itself with this culture. And also provide its neighbors. Fortunately, there is a rice renaissance in the yard; production sets record after record. In the early 1990s the area of ​​land under rice crops reached 286 thousand hectares. But the yield was low: 23–32 centners per hectare. At worst for rice in 1997, the indicator dipped to 150 thousand hectares. It was spinning around the low point until 2004, after which rapid growth began. In the record year 2011, 211 thousand ha were sown with rice. At the same time, productivity was 1,5 times higher than the best Soviet indicators, reaching 55 c / ha. As a result, the collection set a historical record - 1,056 million tons. True, in the next two years there was a slight pullback. Nevertheless, in 2014, more than 200 thousand hectares will be allocated for rice. Harvest is expected - over a million tons.

    The main question is why? It seems that the Russian Federation is not a rice power. Rice yields cannot be compared with Indian or Thai. After all, we have a risky farming zone; moreover, rice is harvested in the Russian Federation once a year, and not two or three times, as in Asia. But not so simple. It turns out that rice is more important to us than buckwheat. According to the agency "BusinessStat", it accounts for 29% of the consumption of cereals, while buckwheat - 25%. Another fact: rice is eaten more in Russia than in Europe. In our country, finished consumption is 4–5 kg per capita per year, while in the EU it is 2–3 kg.

    So the demand is huge. Fortunately, in 2005 there was a rice fracture. Until that time, half of the amber cereal had to be imported. Then the rice balance leveled in favor of the Russian Federation. In 2011, rice exports from Russia exceeded imports for the first time. 82,4 thousand tons were sold abroad, 75,6 thousand tons were imported. In general, since 2005, rice imports have fallen by 90%.

    According to experts, in 2014, rice exports will exceed 250 thousand tons. For comparison: in 2005, only 6 thousand tons of rice were exported abroad. Of course, the volume of Russian exports cannot be compared with Vietnamese or Indian - there the bill goes by many millions of tons. The fact itself is important: the overproduction of this culture has begun in Russia, the domestic market is full, and goods are torn abroad. According to customs statistics, the main buyers of Russian rice are Turkey, Kazakhstan, Libya and Azerbaijan. Turkey takes raw rice from us to load its rice processing facilities. The rest of the country buys rice groats.
    Where rice can grow, wheat will never be able to. And there are not so many chernozems on the planet.
  38. vova1973
    vova1973 18 May 2014 07: 14
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    The collective farm is the most optimal form of organizing agricultural production in our climate.
  39. vova1973
    vova1973 18 May 2014 07: 15
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    Geography defines economics, and then politics.
  40. serg. 555
    serg. 555 18 May 2014 17: 11
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    What is the structure of the population in the village - the majority of pensioners.
  41. serg. 555
    serg. 555 18 May 2014 17: 17
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    Farming is self-exploitation. You must not get sick and the equipment must not break.