Military Review

On the right to pendal fascist. To one sensational roller

99
On the right to pendal fascist. To one sensational roller



A video appeared on the network with a scene of punishment of Luhansk’s Euro-Maidan, caught in Lugansk for disrupting announcements of a national referendum. Since the video itself and its clones are quickly removed by administrators from all hosting sites, we will not provide a link, but we will limit ourselves to a verbal description (for now here). The video is quite plump "hero" are on the street on a leash on all fours. The surrounding at the same time express approval of what he saw and from time to time award pravoseka with Pendels. That's all. But this is not at all surprising, but the reaction of some compatriots to what they saw. It should be disassembled.

So, a large proportion of commentators expressed strong disapproval of the method of punishment. The main reasons for this are as follows:

- do not need to be like Bandera scum;

- Now the Ukrainian media will use this video to blame supporters of federalization.

As an alternative, it is proposed to transfer the investigators caught in the hands and rely on the decision of a fair Ukrainian court.

For example, they write this:

“Calm down, people!

If you are a State, if you claim to be considered in the future, then from the very beginning build institutions of power. Let the investigation investigate, the prosecutor's office of the Lugansk Republic is indicting, the court is judging. Do not be wild. Let the junta demonstrate savagery, and you must appear before the world as civilized people! ”

There are actually a lot of such comments, almost half, which makes it possible to reflect on the manifestation of the psychological phenomenon that we have once identified. But first I would like to point out to all those who condemn the actions of self-defense, specifically in this case, one moral aspect, which they themselves, while appealing to categories of morality, for some reason ignore. It is very simple - you, friends, have no moral right to condemn. But this can be corrected - get up from the sofa, go to Lugansk, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Mariupol, etc. and stand shoulder to shoulder on the barricades with the militia. Stay under the fire at least one night, look into the dead eyes of the shot demonstrators, worship the ashes of the burnt alive. And then come back and tell us again about a fair and humane court, which should decide the fate of the Nazis. Otherwise, keep your moralism with you.

I would also add that, given the intensity of the moment, the pravosek crawling on their knees should thank their captors for the highest degree of humanism shown to them. There are plenty of video clips available to the public, where people are simply torn to pieces, cut off their heads, dumped into wells, simply because they belong to the opposing ideology. Under the cheerful and joyful cries of "Allah Akbar". And, what is remarkable, for some reason, such videos from YouTube are either not cut or are removed extremely lazily. This is because they are informational in themselves. weapons and aimed at suppressing the will to resist the enemy (in this case, the supporters of the overthrown legal authorities of Libya and the supporters of B. Assad in Syria). The movie with the Bandera tied on a leash should be regarded as a signal to his fellow men, who are no different, as we know, with special courage. Certainly, in peacetime, he would have looked wild and repulsive, but, given the current situation, it is quite appropriate.

Now back to the phenomenon.

We know that when confronted with injustice remotely, the average Internet commentator is filled with a belligerent spirit, exposing an imaginary saber and calling to punish the guilty with all possible severity. There is an inverse proportion - the less familiar such a warrior is with violence in reality, the more bloodthirsty his appeals. And vice versa - the more the commentator had a chance to look at violence and its consequences in real life, the less bloodthirsty he is in his statements. However, since the militancy of the bloodthirsty was not born by personal experience, but by ideas drawn from cinema / animation, then at the first encounter with her or her echoes they quickly lose their ardor and turn into humanists. Some even enough the easiest whiff of reality, for example, in the form of a video clip with a Bandera crawling on their knees. Such whiff of other summoners for reprisals causes dizziness, bouts of nausea, palpitations and a sharp change of rhetoric from Stalinist to Tolstoy.

So the video being discussed opened the line of discussion that was unheard of yesterday, the enemies, it turns out, need to be given into the hands of investigations and trials. And to demonstrate "civilization" to the "whole world".

What can I say. Span wanted the whole world to your civilization. While you blame the speedy and very humane people's court, this world is in a hurry to turn the resistance into a ram's horn, burn it in ovens and trample it into the ground. And then get to us. Only who will fight if every second person has a heartbeat and nausea?
Author:
Originator:
http://www.odnako.org/blogs/o-prave-na-pendal-fashistu-k-odnomu-nashumevshemu-roliku/
99 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 15 May 2014 12: 45
    +69
    Of course, it would not be necessary to become like this whole bastard ... But I really want to give Pendal !!!
    1. Hctu
      Hctu 15 May 2014 12: 49
      +50
      The situation is simpler. The farther from the front, the more humanism. Until they feel in their own skin what Galician Fascism is, they will not understand. And to be humane while sitting at a computer somewhere in the suburbs is very simple.
      1. jjj
        jjj 15 May 2014 13: 08
        +20
        From a Christian point of view, killing a villain at the crime scene is more correct than humiliating and torturing him after some time
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 15 May 2014 13: 45
          +20
          From a Christian point of view, killing a villain at the crime scene is more correct than humiliating and torturing him after some time
          Generally yes. But in this case, clearly the punishment overtook the crime scene. This time.
          No one is torturing this individual. There is only moral and psychological humiliation and a very light physical impact that will not leave even slight bodily harm. Even the rods would do more damage. These are two. Physical punishment is accompanied by verbal analysis of flight, in the frame even very censored. These are three.
          There is a proportionality of punishment. Given what is happening around Lugansk and Slavyansk.
          It's like a kitten shitting in a room poking its face into its own.
          1. matross
            matross 15 May 2014 14: 52
            +1
            Quote: abrakadabre
            There is a proportionality of punishment. Given what is happening around Lugansk and Slavyansk.

            Something tells me that "considering what's going on ..." is only the first part of the punishment. And the second, without filming and pendals, was taken outside the outskirts and the goat was banged.
            1. mikki1701
              mikki1701 15 May 2014 15: 51
              +3
              Having humiliated publicly and let go, it is to make an enemy who will kill for this offense. Moreover, now it’s easy. As I.V. Stalin said, it’s impossible to humiliate, it is necessary to judge and shoot, I think so.
        2. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 15 May 2014 13: 59
          +3
          Quote: jjj
          From a Christian point of view, killing a villain at the crime scene is more correct than humiliating and torturing him after some time

          Indeed, the best option in such a situation is to give the person who has torn off the referendum announcement that he has torn into his hands and shoot him - according to the law of wartime. To remove this for clarity, as a lesson Pindo..sovskom army from Svidomo. But the "humanism" of Russian liberals and their human rights defenders - defenders of the strong against the weak, is in itself a composition to put them against the wall.
        3. Evgeniy-111
          Evgeniy-111 15 May 2014 15: 16
          +4
          Actually, it was also possible to flog. There are probably Cossacks there.
      2. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 15 May 2014 13: 08
        +4
        Quote: Hctu
        Until they feel in their own skin what Galician Fascism is, they will not understand. And to be humane while sitting at a computer somewhere in the suburbs is very simple.
        More than agree, we are about to jump off the coils and then we will not be stopped by any humanism.
      3. avg
        avg 15 May 2014 13: 45
        +1
        Killed in battle. The activities of the prisoners are investigated, judged and later they are treated according to the sentence. Warrior and executioner professions are different.
        If the guy killed the nits, I would understand him, but you can’t torture and humiliate helpless enemies in cold blood. It’s just not possible.
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 15 May 2014 14: 33
          +6
          .... Read about w .. pu and a sofa ...
          1. avg
            avg 15 May 2014 14: 51
            +4
            I am 61 years old. He began to fight with 21 with a lieutenant. So, my voiced opinion is based on experience. Believe me, some fighters like this Bandera bastard are catching, while others drag them on leashes. Yes, and about the ass and sofa at the wrong place. wink
            Post author below - Intelligence is the battle and there you have to kill. But, always this is done by the most experienced fighters with a mature character in order to protect the psyche of the young. No one wants to take a person with sadistic inclinations into a group.
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 15 May 2014 14: 36
          +1
          Quote: avg
          Killed in battle. The activities of the prisoners are investigated, judged and later they are treated according to the sentence. Warrior and executioner professions are different.

          What are we correct! How do we deal with prisoners taken by reconnaissance, sabotage group on enemy territory? What do we do with a so-called civilian who discovered a reconnaissance, sabotage group carrying out a mission? I admit that these examples are not very appropriate in relation to the discussed situations, I just want to say that there are written "laws of humane warfare", but there are military realities. When I see an episode from a war film, where they show how the "Hitler Youth", who burned a "thirty-four" with a faustpatron with a crew, is kicked, and then they wipe the snot (they can feed it) and send it "prisoner" - I believe this episode in part: I admit that maybe it was, in one case out of ten.
          1. Evgen_Vasilich
            Evgen_Vasilich 15 May 2014 15: 10
            +1
            rather - it could be theoretically, but it doesn’t happen in real life ... because the tank crew has friends
          2. b-metro
            b-metro 15 May 2014 15: 31
            +1
            What are we right! How do they deal with prisoners taken by intelligence, a sabotage group on the territory of the enemy? What do they do with a so-called civilian who discovered a reconnaissance, sabotage group


            In this case, eliminate, but not mock.
            1. mikki1701
              mikki1701 15 May 2014 15: 57
              +1
              I agree. When pravoseki begin to disappear, maybe then they will think about whether this idea is worth living.
          3. anfil
            anfil 15 May 2014 19: 47
            0
            “You, friends, have no moral right to condemn.” But this can be fixed - get up from the couch, go to Lugansk, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Mariupol, etc. and stand shoulder to shoulder on the militia barricades. Stand under fire for at least one night, look into the dead eyes of the executed demonstrators, bow to the ashes of the burnt alive. And then come back and tell us again ...

            Irina Vyazovaya.
            Dnepropetrovsk.

            Grandfather, it's my fault.
            It's my fault.
            Was on 9 on May
            Just a sip of wine.
            Ever hurried somewhere
            I went to barbecue
            Grandfather, we forgot the war
            Lived like fools.
            Grandfather, it's my fault
            There is no one to reprove.
            I forgot about fascism
            Screaming to my children
            Bow to veterans
            Good Victory
            And remember them in the temples
            In front of the saint icon.
            Grandfather, it's my fault
            Didn't close the doors
            Those who persecuted in Ukraine
            Tales about her.
            She frowned, but was silent.
            I did not ring the alarm
            I didn’t scream to everyone
            What a Slav to me brother.
            Grandfather, it's my fault
            The fact that power is a thief.
            In what came out of caches
            Neo-Nazi beast.
            I stuffed my ears.
            Nearby wandered around.
            I was indifferent.
            Time to go to the cross.
            Grandfather, I’m forgiveness to you.
            I know you are in heaven.
            I will be alive - on Victory Day
            I will stand in prayer in tears.
            I won’t tire of my grandchildren
            Truth words carry.
            I stood up against fascism.
            Grandfather, if that - I'm sorry.
            1. anfil
              anfil 15 May 2014 19: 54
              0
              Sorry grandfather!
      4. The comment was deleted.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 15 May 2014 12: 49
      +28
      Quote: Silkway0026
      Of course, it would not be necessary to become like this whole bastard ... But I really want to give Pendal !!!


      Right. It is not necessary to become like. It is necessary to do what the heart tells ... He prompted me to put the lawyer on a leash - let him say thanks that he did not require a stake.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 15 May 2014 13: 04
        +8
        Quote: Geisenberg
        ... let him say thanks ...

        What is done is done.
        Compared to the events in Odessa, where people were martyred at the hands of those like him, here he was simply "scolded". This, of course, is not GOOD, I had to restrain myself, be above it, but ... it happened.
        If this "pravosek" had brains in the priest, then the pendal (kick) should have a fruitful effect on his attitude to the world, correct, so to speak, his point of view.
        But if the brains, somehow, in such a ghoul remained in the head, where they belong, then it was worth tapping the head to set them right. Although this moment may have remained behind the scenes.
        I would like to hope that the execution will benefit him, and the OTHER, of which there are still not a few, will become a lesson, for which they apparently filmed. yes
        It is a pity for the "poor", but how else to "GET THEM" request
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 15 May 2014 13: 50
          +2
          It is a pity for the "poor", but how else to "GET THEM"
          Wretched, yes. Pravosekov - no. They are not miserable.
          1. zanoza
            zanoza 15 May 2014 15: 32
            0
            Quote: abrakadabre
            Wretched, yes. Pravosekov - no. They are not miserable.

            I will quote the article under discussion:
            Quote: abrakadabre
            A video appeared on the network with a scene of the punishment of the Lugansk euromaidan ...

            So in this case we are talkingI guess so not about pravosek.
            Regarding the attitude towards law-breakers, I agree with you.
            And here is another case, and for what he did, he received a "salary".
            So do not "go too far", delve into the meaning of the text. I used "ubogy" (in quotes) in the meaning: human,defective physically or mentally. And the meaning was invested such that this person and others like him, from poverty of mind tore flyers calling people to a referendum.
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 15 May 2014 13: 49
        +4
        let thank you say that did not require a stake
        Given their own fascist mentality, the idea of ​​the reality of such an option should simply enter into a stupor from fear. Yes, it seems, and introduced. And this is good.
    3. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 15 May 2014 13: 06
      +3
      Quote: Silkway0026
      But I want to give pendal !!!

      This is just pendeli .....
      You know, Russian patience, although huge, but not forever ....
      It’s about to break off and then ... Pendella, the matter will not work!
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 15 May 2014 13: 28
        +3
        I won’t say anything about the leash and penalties, but I am a supporter of a public, good flogging. Take to the square to lower the pants and embed on the first number and show Natsik, let them think, heroes ....
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 15 May 2014 13: 40
          +6
          Yesterday in VK in the group "Berkut" I read:

          in Odessa, they mocked the graves of those who were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions. They burned both crosses and wreaths and wrote - "You will sleep peacefully in Raisa"



          This is hellish hell.

          + Received information:

          .

          Jan: Well, basically, you see, there are Avakovites. That company could do all this.
          Noginsky: Well, there was an agreement. If already ... (inaudible) ... left, in principle, voiced. There was an agreement. He came, said: “What are you messing with this Odessa?” There was this “Kulikovo Field” there all the time, non-stop ... “Come on, give Odessa to me, and it will be the same as in Dnepropetrovsk”. Like, not one mouse will not stick out his head. They say to him: "Good."
          Jan: He has already arrived in Odessa. He was in Odessa.
          Noginsky: He is still there. And he is engaged in the fact that there, on the one hand, for the last three days 16 was killed by a man who was detained and survived after the “House of Trade Unions”. Two slaughtered under the house. Well, and so on.Jan: Well, I just, Oleg, I understand, I just can’t believe that Benya can do this.
        2. The comment was deleted.
    4. xenod55
      xenod55 15 May 2014 14: 00
      +4
      Actually, this is just EDUCATION, not punishment. As they say, if mom didn't invest and dad didn't give it. And when he was released, but released anyway, he is not the first and he will tell the same goofs how his "uncles" were brought up and re-educated. Maybe at least some of them (even a small one) will ring a bell in their heads that they need to live differently. And fear is a good educator.
    5. wulf66
      wulf66 15 May 2014 14: 13
      +4
      Kicks in the ass fucked ... is it like likening people to burning alive? People wake up, this scum just lowered to the level of the baseboard! I would smear it with tar, throw it out in feathers and kick it out on podzhopniki ... and everything is on video and ALWAYS ONLINE.
    6. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 15 May 2014 14: 20
      0
      Absolutely correct position, I condemn, but I will give a pendal.
    7. The comment was deleted.
    8. alexng
      alexng 15 May 2014 14: 24
      0
      And you can remain with your tacit opinion, because I don’t know what to do in such a situation. I just have no answer to this question. Although I saw a sufficient number of terrible deaths, since I work in a mine mining in a mine way, but here is a completely different situation. Here is the war.
      1. mikki1701
        mikki1701 15 May 2014 16: 02
        0
        With an opinion it is possible, but in the war, as you rightly noted, the enemy is DESTROYED if he does not surrender. And they caught this freak. So what is the conclusion?
    9. aleks 62
      aleks 62 15 May 2014 14: 31
      0
      .... Read about w ... pu and a sofa ...
    10. Sterlya
      Sterlya 15 May 2014 14: 47
      0
      Quote: Silkway0026
      Of course, it would not be necessary to become like this whole bastard ... But I really want to give Pendal !!!

      in my opinion it is better to slam in the woods where. (humanely and fairly)
    11. Kazanec
      Kazanec 15 May 2014 15: 00
      0
      And not only pendal !!!
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 15 May 2014 16: 40
        0
        I read the comments here ... Residents of the site IN sadists and amateurs to mock unarmed and defeated ?! And don’t dare to tell me about a sofa, etc. For more than 20 years I have been carrying two bullets in myself (not removable). A man tore off agitation leaflets. So what? For this he is worthy of humiliation and bullying? This is just like American soldiers emptying themselves on the dead and prisoners. This is the same as in Odessa mocked at the graves of the torn junta in the village of Trade unions. Guys, this is wildness, albeit in a mild form. And did anyone think where this man was from? No where there is no such information. Maybe he lives in the next entrance and always lived there? Maybe he just thinks differently because of the influence of Ukrainian media? Just. Well, you lowered it morally in front of the whole city. What are the next actions? To jail him? Is this tearing down leaflets? Drive out of town? And if this is his city and house (but it seems to me)? Just let go and try to convince him that he was wrong? It is unlikely that it will be possible to explain that Ukrainian media are not right. Here is a new candidate for the fight against the St. George ribbon nurtured by the people. Now such a question. What was a Russian soldier supposed to do when he entered Berlin? Drown everything in blood for revenge for the homeland? And what did Donbass militias have to do when saving a wounded pilot from a downed Ukrainian helicopter? Tear him to pieces?
        The enemy met on the battlefield - kill him without hesitation. The enemy surrendered - do not touch him. I caught a dude for spoiling leaflets - give me in the face on the spot and turn in the police. But like this to drive a person through the streets = bestiality. No matter how terrible the enemy would turn out to be, but if it is defeated in accordance with all the canons of humanity, one cannot scoff at it and mock it. Otherwise, you will not be better than your enemy. And it is not in your right to decide what punishment to award the offender. Otherwise, no one will have rights and freedoms. A good example of Kiev. Now there is no law there and the police with the prosecutor’s office are not there.
    12. muginov2015
      muginov2015 15 May 2014 20: 39
      0
      I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND TO ALL DRINKERS OF ASPEN AND NECKLACE 45 YEAR AND THE BEHAVIOR OF OUR SOLDIERS
      AND THERE WERE THERE HAD MUCH MUCH MORE BASES FOR PLACE. CONCLUSIONS MAKE YOURSELF.
  2. Yellow white
    Yellow white 15 May 2014 12: 45
    +4
    Personally, I would say that I was in a state of passion .. and once again succumbed!
    1. Yura
      Yura 15 May 2014 13: 08
      +4
      Quote: Black and White
      Personally, I would say that I was in a state of passion .. and once again succumbed!

      And then one more time but already for having to stain a boot.
  3. The comment was deleted.
  4. St Petrov
    St Petrov 15 May 2014 12: 46
    +9
    good movie. I immediately approved =]
  5. Roman1970
    Roman1970 15 May 2014 12: 48
    +5
    I am against violence. But I can’t blame the people who kicked the "hero". According to the situation, in their place I would have done the same ...
  6. Egevich
    Egevich 15 May 2014 12: 50
    -2
    we take into account for mitigation that he was picking up leaflets, which is ugly, of course, but not so punishable ... driving on a leash is too much, but writing a good bream and sending it home would not be a mistake ...
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 15 May 2014 13: 50
      +4
      It is useless, having departed from the bream, he will understand his impunity and will understand that for his mucks he is just a bream, I do not want the bastard further.
      1. tasey
        tasey 15 May 2014 14: 02
        +5
        You admit, "humanist", that "this" could throw bottles with a clamp with joyful cries. mixture in Odessa?
  7. Giant thought
    Giant thought 15 May 2014 12: 51
    +9
    Pendeli for this hero is too soft a punishment. After all that his spiritual brothers did in Odessa, Mariupol, there should not be any pity for the Maidan, in war as in war. And those who regret this scum, for a moment, let them imagine that, for example, in Odessa, among the burned were father, mother, son, etc., what would be their reaction then. And then all the questions will end.
  8. zzzxzzz
    zzzxzzz 15 May 2014 12: 52
    -2
    Quote: Silkway0026
    Of course, it would not be necessary to become like this whole bastard ... But I really want to give Pendal !!!

    I agree 100%, not 300%
    You have to be PEOPLE and not creatures.
    After all, it is not known what prompted this subject to pluck leaflets. Ideological beliefs or material gain.
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 15 May 2014 13: 53
      +4
      As a rule, they don’t get off with kicks for ideological nastiness, but the pendel is the most for this zealot, but if you don’t understand, then you can already judge, but can you see how the right-wingers for the St. George ribbons beat people half to death on the streets? And they perceive the humane attitude to these reptiles as weakness and mock even more.
    2. Rohon
      Rohon 15 May 2014 16: 01
      0
      radish horseradish is not sweeter, it does not matter that it was prompted by the important fact of the deed. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
    3. mikki1701
      mikki1701 15 May 2014 16: 08
      0
      No matter what prompted, action is important. Pedophile is not asked what prompted him, he is simply tried and imprisoned (prison, psychiatric hospital). In war, the enemy is killed.
  9. mig31
    mig31 15 May 2014 12: 52
    +3
    In war, as in war, you cannot deprive of fair pleasure, and even if there hadn’t been a movie, the State Department would have come up with ...
  10. vor4un
    vor4un 15 May 2014 12: 55
    +4
    He had to stick a beard, like an Austrian.
  11. major071
    major071 15 May 2014 12: 56
    +16
    Thanks to the author. I completely agree. Before writing comments like "inhumane", etc. sitting in front of the monitor and blowing beer, put yourself in the shoes of the militias and residents of Slavyansk or another city in the SE and think, what right do you have to do this? Just yelling under the guise of universal human values ​​will not work here, there is a war, they kill there.
    It turned out somehow messy. hi IMHO.
  12. Arkan
    Arkan 15 May 2014 12: 56
    +3
    Break this maydaun into a tambourine and hand it over to law enforcement agencies, although there, in Lugansk, it is not known who is his own and who is a stranger. Shameful pillar, as an option.
    1. smile
      smile 15 May 2014 14: 33
      +1
      Arkan
      And what will law enforcement do with it? I don’t know if they did this at SEU, but it’s time to impose martial law, to detain such forces by self-defense, and if there is no evidence that they don’t have blood on their hands, exchange people who were jailed for jail ... at least some benefit .... and as for - pendals and a leash ... so it does not cause significant damage to health, to condemn the hand does not rise ..... I do not know what he would do if he fell into his hands ....
    2. Alex
      Alex 15 May 2014 15: 02
      +2
      Quote: Arkan
      Shameful pillar, as an option.
      And this is an improvised version of the good old shameful pillar. If I were there, I wouldn’t get off with a simple pendal ...
  13. vovan50
    vovan50 15 May 2014 12: 58
    +4
    A good movie, so I would watch and watch. Maydaun was driven around the city, as can be seen on the show. And what, the throat is not cut, not raped and not burned. Modestly and tastefully.
  14. Agat
    Agat 15 May 2014 13: 00
    +4
    You know, and right before my eyes there is a frame when a charred man in Odessa is forced to crawl and kick up. Obscurantism!!!
    And here they just walked over it with a "soft cloth"! Maybe it will click in his head and everything will fall into place.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 May 2014 13: 59
      +6
      You know, and I have a shot right before my eyes,
      And still a shot as pravoseki in the apartment on the camera relishing sawing a throat to the connected Donetsk policeman. And nearby his twisted, and most likely his raped, wife was voicing. Under the crying and cries of an unfortunate woman and the dirty expression of the executioners, blood flows from a cut throat, pulsing and bubbling. And then the cramps of a dying MAN in a pool of his own blood.
      So maydaun still got off cheaply. In breaks of flogging, I would have arranged for him to watch all such videos that the pravoseks themselves and others like them put on the net in their heat of impunity.
      I watched the video, 10 lashes and said that "You are also involved in this. You, too, have the blood of these people" ...
    2. van50man
      van50man 15 May 2014 15: 52
      0
      Just give him political information! Poke your nose into the graves, talk with relatives of the deceased at the hands of people like him, explain (popularly, calmly, fatherly) who is fighting for what and why .... Pour shit and kick out, home, to your masters!
      Quote: Agat
      And here they just walked over it with a "soft cloth"! Maybe it will click in his head and everything will fall into place.
  15. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 15 May 2014 13: 02
    -3
    The author rushes from one extreme to another. Where judgment is needed, judgment is humanity — humanity, power, strength — but not blind hatred.
    1. Alex
      Alex 15 May 2014 15: 06
      +6
      Quote: Petr Timofeev
      The author rushes from one extreme to another. Where judgment is needed, judgment is humanity — humanity, power, strength — but not blind hatred.
      Blind hatred is when a pregnant woman is strangled with a telephone wire. Blind hatred is when a defenseless woman is raped near an elevator, and then burned alive. Blind hatred is when a young girl breaks her neck with her bare hands. No need to pass off hypocrisy for morality, but connivance and cowardice - for justice.
    2. van50man
      van50man 15 May 2014 16: 07
      0
      There is a NATIONAL CONFLICT and the rules of war do not work here! The people do not give a damn about all the conventions on prisoners of war, their honor and dignity are hurt, the life and health of their loved ones and no universal, values, can deprive them of their right to retaliation! Pravoseki and other ub .... ki count on this, raising hysteria in the media and the internet! An extra reason for hysteria should not be submitted, but it is also NOT possible to let them down (once in the 45-46th they have already relaxed ...)! It’s necessary, if it’s to be punished according to ,, smart ,,! May God grant endurance to the militias and residents of the regions (you need to be able to serve a cold dish during and at the right time) !!!
      Quote: Petr Timofeev
      The author rushes from one extreme to another. Where judgment is needed, judgment is humanity — humanity, power, strength — but not blind hatred.
  16. Good cat
    Good cat 15 May 2014 13: 03
    +3
    The article is not so much about a movie and about penalties, but about comments and office hamsters. I support the main idea, come and then there will be a moral right to give advice on what to do with enemies.
  17. Fish supervision
    Fish supervision 15 May 2014 13: 04
    +3
    You just need to collect all the ripped leaflets and make them gobble up without drinking water. angry
  18. ZSP
    ZSP 15 May 2014 13: 06
    +1
    Dude was lucky, and it’s very, well, it’s a shame, of course, to crawl on the karachiks and get a pedal from everyone, but alive, well, they will beat the fifth point, the tailbone will be damaged ... BUT ALIVE. and many are no longer ....
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 May 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Well, the fifth point will be beaten, the tailbone will be damaged ...
      Do not beat off. From a brief video, it can be seen that it is protected from excessive exposure.
  19. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 15 May 2014 13: 07
    +1
    The people are terrible in anger, they are still lucky ...
  20. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 15 May 2014 13: 08
    +3
    "Everyone imagines himself to be a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ..."
    Moralizers - remember what the Bible says: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."
    Let it be glad that the limbs were not cut off or burned alive. And the science will be like others - let it not be said then that they were not warned ...
  21. Echelon
    Echelon 15 May 2014 13: 10
    +2
    War is war, and there all methods are good. Tell about tolerance to those who burned alive in Odessa.
  22. mamont5
    mamont5 15 May 2014 13: 12
    +7
    What can I say? The classic has already said everything:
    - Maybe not?
    - It is necessary, Fedya. It is necessary !!!
  23. gandalf
    gandalf 15 May 2014 13: 13
    +7
    Those who say that you shouldn't have spanked this "hero" - have you ever spanked a child who has naughty?
    The child will be offended, deserve a slap - receive.
    This one also guilty, earned his pendal.

    About likening - did they beat him, chop him up and burn him? Not. Its just spankedlike a naughty kid.

    The fault is punishment.
  24. urii
    urii 15 May 2014 13: 13
    0
    Does anyone have a link to this video? Please send a look
  25. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 15 May 2014 13: 16
    +3
    Our fathers and grandfathers earned the right to destroy fascism with their blood! These animals do not need to be driven on a leash. In the best case, leave some for display at the zoo!
  26. vsoltan
    vsoltan 15 May 2014 13: 19
    +1
    People are burned alive. Jumping out of windows and breaking bones - they finish off with iron rods ... etc. What courts? What law enforcement? What are the pendels? No need to humiliate, I agree. But depending on the degree of guilt - either cripple or - at an expense. And do not pose as humanists. Significantly more blood will be shed
  27. sargus
    sargus 15 May 2014 13: 19
    +5
    By purely approaching Maidan evil spirits you will not catch!
    Now imagine how this creep and his ilk first blocked the exits and then set fire to
    DP in Odessa!
    The priests have nothing to do on this site !!! Read there. "Murzilka", "Worker and Peasant Woman", etc.
  28. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 15 May 2014 13: 22
    +2
    They did it right. They are worse than animals. There is no need to stand on ceremony with them. There is a war.
  29. Baloo_bst
    Baloo_bst 15 May 2014 13: 24
    +7
    Maybe not in the subject but:
    On April 5, 1945, a Yugoslav delegation led by Broz Tito arrived in Moscow to sign the Treaty of Friendship, Mutual Assistance and Cooperation between the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. The delegation included, in particular, Foreign Minister Ivan Shubasic and Minister for Montenegro, Lieutenant General Milovan Djilas.
    The latter previously criticized the behavior of individual soldiers and officers of the Red Army in relation to the civilian population. Stalin was aware of this, and he was indignant at the offensive behavior of Jilas.
    At dinner, Stalin felt that it was time to end the feud with Jilas. He did it in a joking manner: he poured him a glass of vodka and offered to drink for the Red Army.
    Not immediately realizing Stalin’s intention, Jilas wanted to drink for his health.
    “No, no,” Stalin insisted, smiling and looking inquiringly at Djilas, “it is for the Red Army!” What, do not want to drink for the Red Army?
    Of course, Jilas drank.
    Then Stalin asked what was happening with the Red Army? Jilas explained that he did not want to offend the Red Army at all, but wanted to point out the mistakes of some of its employees and the political difficulties that created this for us.
    Stalin interrupted:
    - Yes. You, of course, read Dostoevsky? Have you seen what a complicated thing the human soul is, human psychology? Imagine a man walking a battle from Stalingrad to Belgrade, thousands of kilometers across his devastated land, seeing the death of his comrades and closest people! Can such a person react normally?
    There was an interesting case. The major pilot fiddled with the woman, and there was a knight engineer who began to defend her. Major for the gun: “Oh you, rear rat!” And he killed the engineer knight. Condemned the major to death. But the matter came to me, I became interested in him and (I have the right to do so, as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief during the war) released the major, sent him to the front. Now he is one of the heroes. Warrior - must be understood. And the Red Army is not perfect. It is important that she beat the Germans, and she hits them well - everything else is secondary ...
  30. folds
    folds 15 May 2014 13: 28
    0
    Quote: jjj
    From a Christian point of view
    "hit on the right cheek - substitute your left, you dive under the blow, with your right hand you break through the solar plexus, with your left knee - the liver" - I have not forgotten anything? :)
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 May 2014 14: 08
      0
      left knee - liver "- I have not forgotten anything? :)
      I forgot ... After the right in the solar plexus, the grab for the body and the right knee in the groin. Just stand up hi
    2. Alex
      Alex 15 May 2014 15: 12
      +3
      Quote: plis
      "hit on the right cheek - substitute your left, you dive under the blow, with your right hand you break through the solar plexus, with your left knee - the liver" - I have not forgotten anything? :)
      I remember that during a training session, my woo-shu mentor said: "They hit you on the right cheek - turn your left cheek. And then I beat the opponent off ... tsa." Good advice, IMHO.
    3. Echelon
      Echelon 15 May 2014 15: 19
      +5
      A young man of a boorish appearance comes into the temple, approaches the priest, hits him on the cheek and smiles maliciously, says:
      - And what, father, is it said: "Hit on the right cheek, turn the left one too."
      Father, a master of sports in boxing, with a left hook sends an insolent man into the corner of the temple and meekly says:
      - It is also said what measure you measure, such will be measured to you!
      Frightened parishioners ask:
      - What is happening there?
      An important deacon explains:
      - The gospel is interpreted.
    4. The comment was deleted.
  31. lexxxus
    lexxxus 15 May 2014 13: 29
    +1
    In any case, it’s not beaten and burned alive. And for prevention it is possible and so. Moreover, the legal field is not there yet - almost anarchy.
  32. Akvadra
    Akvadra 15 May 2014 13: 30
    +4
    Someone in their right mind condemned the Cossacks for the fact that they hit the guns with guns ?! So I did not blame. And the fascists were publicly hanged
    in the squares after the liberation of our territories. According to the court, by the way. Looks like they hung a little!
  33. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 15 May 2014 13: 39
    +4
    I would like to point out to all those condemning the actions of self-defense specifically in this case one moral aspect, which they themselves, appealing to the categories of morality, for some reason ignore. It is very simple - you, friends, have no moral right to condemn. But this can be fixed - get up from the couch, go to Lugansk, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Mariupol, etc. and stand shoulder to shoulder on the militia barricades. Stand under fire for at least one night, look into the dead eyes of the executed demonstrators, bow to the ashes of the burnt alive. And then come back and tell us again about the fair and humane court, which should decide the fate of the Nazis. Otherwise, hold your moralizing to yourself.
    The best words! Neither add nor diminish.
  34. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 15 May 2014 13: 43
    +2
    We are all good people, they kill us, burn us alive, and we don’t touch them. They are certainly cruel to be bad, but circumstances force us. During the civil war in Russia, after the capture of Samara, the Reds harnessed people to carriages, did not look at gender differences and rode in they shot down these carriages around the city, whipping harnesses of harnessed, driven ones. This is cruelty, and then they drove along the street on a leash of a right-hander and immediately there were defenders, these defenders and the right-hander near.
  35. La xnumx
    La xnumx 15 May 2014 13: 47
    +2
    Well, what kind of sympathy for this Bandera’s may have fallen! They didn’t burn him, they didn’t finish him with burnt sticks .. I think that this scum deserved to be punished with a more serious pair of pendals. Sympathetic to banderlogs go to ..
  36. mackonya
    mackonya 15 May 2014 14: 08
    0
    I will not judge the actions against "pravosek", it is not for me to decide its fate, and everyone acts according to their own concept of justice and honor. But I will give just one example, during the Korean conflict, the brotherly people of Korea were driven to fratricide by simple units of punishers, these are mercenaries who walked through the villages and brutally killed and then exhibited the corpses of civilians, both North and South Korea, so hatred appeared between the two. " Koreans, "once united.
  37. arkady149
    arkady149 15 May 2014 14: 20
    0
    But fellow "pravosexualists" will make him "HERO" to whom "glory".
  38. individual
    individual 15 May 2014 14: 24
    +1
    In war, as in war.
    Not Donetsk and Lugansk began all this, but the South-East will end all this in Kiev.
  39. Patriot2012
    Patriot2012 15 May 2014 14: 25
    +3
    Wedge by wedge, this geymaydanovets when he went to Lugansk should have known what could happen to him, so that not x, p, e, n sorry for him, he’s to blame
  40. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 15 May 2014 14: 28
    +1
    Once they humanely arrived with them — the surviving Bandera prisoners were sent to prison, then they were released and sprouted — now their successors (descendants) staged a massacre throughout Ukraine! What humanity can there be with regard to non-fascist people? still easy to get off! am
  41. Support
    Support 15 May 2014 14: 29
    +1
    Easy bitch got off. I would have forced him to gobble up my own socks and underpants, and on a bare .ope I would have glued (with a stapler) what he had ripped off ....
  42. Komsomolec80
    Komsomolec80 15 May 2014 14: 39
    0
    Well, they spanked the bad guy on the sirloin, also humiliation. After all, he bitches knows exactly how the Banderlog did with the "Coloradas", and probably wet himself assuming what they would do to him, and then they scolded him like a father, though ...
  43. vedross
    vedross 15 May 2014 14: 49
    +3
    These are our enemies. Not opponents in the dispute, not people of other views, things are much worse - they are our enemies. And many times they proved it to us with their anger and cruelty of beating, torturing and killing. And the enemy should know that punishment is inevitable and sometimes painful both in the psyche and in the ass.
  44. dmb
    dmb 15 May 2014 14: 51
    +3
    Fellow citizens, come to your senses. Punishment for a crime is not humiliation. When, during the war, ours captured traitors and executioners, they hung them. They hung, but did not torture out of a sense of sadism. Tomorrow you will unanimously yell about our Russian humanism, which is different from all other nations. When you scream, remember your comments today. a cowardly provocateur is the softest definition for the author. Personally, I have not the slightest doubt that he would definitely lead a person like a dog, but under one condition, he should know for sure that this person will never meet him one on one again. There is no doubt that if this Super is paid well, he will also drive any of you on the leash of Bandera.
  45. noskov
    noskov 15 May 2014 15: 03
    +2
    Quote: Roman1970
    I am against violence. But I can’t blame the people who kicked the "hero". According to the situation, in their place I would have done the same ...

    And I suggest.
    1. Make him stick the leaflets back (after collecting them from scraps and gluing them with adhesive tape) and at the same time shoot all this on a close-up video.
    2. Give him a pendell (with PYROM and kirzach).
    3. Send him to the lions with a bag of leaflets for the DNI.
    4. Share the video with his correctional work on the site of the law-abiding.
    long but edifying!
    1. van50man
      van50man 15 May 2014 16: 26
      0
      Quote: noskov
      4. Share the video with his correctional work on the site of the law-abiding.
      long but call

      Let the parents of these scumbags feel, “happiness”, from the fact that their vagabonds are alive and ,, corrected ,,!
  46. Alex
    Alex 15 May 2014 15: 18
    +2
    Yeah, you see, great rot has sprouted if these scum have rabid defenders even for such an innocent punishment. When the Germans were held prisoners of war in Moscow in 1944, of course, they were not given pendals, but there was enough humiliation, especially after washing the streets.

    But the partisans didn’t indulge in kicks of such fruits - to the nearest aspen and without reading out the rights. Sorry, not much ...
  47. goland72
    goland72 15 May 2014 15: 26
    0
    "Definitely, in peacetime, he would have looked wild and repulsive, but given the current situation, it is quite appropriate."
    Given the current situation, it can and should be tougher.
  48. pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB 15 May 2014 15: 27
    0
    and I would still sit on top of him ... but with a whip whipped with spikes.
  49. X Y Z
    X Y Z 15 May 2014 15: 30
    0
    I think that the Cossack whips should be received immediately in order to admonish and prevent attempts to repeat his "feat", and after putting in general order - a trial for everything done in accordance with the Criminal Code.
  50. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 15 May 2014 15: 35
    +1
    This article only confirmed that Stalin was a humanist and did everything he did in the name of and for the people. Let someone first try to do more and better. And the guys from SMERSHA and the Cheka were national heroes and worked for good and peace.
    And the next - the Holocaust has no place in the world community - let the Jews grieve for their citizens alone as all the nations of the world do - until it has spilled over into another tragedy. Jews love the world to create problems with huge sacrifices, and then force this world to mourn the Jews who led to this tragedy - other nations do not count toward them.
    One film by Bondarchuk "Stalingrad" is worth it - the most disgusting film of all the disgusting ones that I have ever seen - after watching for a long time I could not get rid of the dirt. So Bondarchuk did worse with our national heroes.