Donbas militiamen are ready for a counterattack, and where is the wounded Valery Bolotov being treated?

The co-chairman of the presidium of the Donetsk People's Republic, Miroslav Rudenko, said that all the Donbass police had gone over to the Donetsk side and refused to submit to Kiev. This fact affected the morale of the army of the southeast, the command of which announced that now the fighters of people's self-defense have the opportunity to move from defense to attack on Kiev punitive units. Reports about it RIA News".

A spokeswoman for the people's governor of Slavyansk confirmed information that the militiamen are going to launch a counterstrike on the positions of the Ukrainian troops that surround the city.

One of the response operations Donetsk militia was carried out the day before. In the course of it, they managed to capture the head of the department of the All-Ukrainian Military Space Command (Eastern Territorial Command) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuriy Lebed. Colonel Lebed is called one of the most active officers of Ukraine involved in the punitive operation in the southeast. Kiev "authorities" do not confirm the capture of Colonel Lebed in the Donetsk region, but many Ukrainian media have printed on the front pages news that Swan is in the hands of Donetsk militia.

Meanwhile, a scandal erupted in Kiev over the fact that the wounded on the eve of the people's governor of the Luhansk region, Valery Bolotov, was transported to Russia for treatment. Ukrainian edition UNIAN reports that Bolotov is located on the territory of the Russian Federation, having passed the “Dolzhansky” customs control point. The State Border Service stated that they released Bolotov from Ukraine, since there were no bans on his departure.

Meanwhile, the press secretary of the leadership of the LPR Vasily Nikitin in an interview with the TV channel RT did not confirm the information that Bolotov was taken to Russia.

The so-called "acting president" Turchinov has already demanded an explanation from the SBU, the State Border Service and the State Border Service regarding the "departure of Bolotov".

Comments

[mig31]

It's time to fight, so that the rest of the "HEROI" think ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: mig31

It's time to fight, so that the rest of the "HEROI" think ...

Remembered

[Duke]

Glory to Lugansk.

[mamont5]

Quote: Duke

Glory to Lugansk.

Go to Kiev. If only the 85-mm shells were found.

[e_krendel]

Although an old man, but beautiful and impetuous!

[Orc-xnumx]

Modern tanks, of course, are too tough for him, but APCs, BMPs and BMDs can click off like seeds. The main thing would be shells.

[Predator]

So 30 mm will also take it, and the RPG, it is better to stand in the defense until there is normal equipment, it’s a pity if they burn!

[avia1991]

Quote: Predator

So 30 mm will also take it,

This is why you make such a thoughtful conclusion? The T-34 showed excellent performance in the mountains of Afghanistan (there was such a period, really!), And they were bombarded there not only with machine guns. And it will definitely withstand the specified weapon against you.

[igor_m_p]

Quote: avia1991

And it will definitely withstand the specified weapon against you.

Of course, 30mm is unlikely to cope with the frontal projection, except with the uranium core, and I think that it will take it on board. Well, against the RPG, the machine will obviously be rather weak unfortunately ...
So use it from a great distance so that it doesn’t reach the sides and feed the border

[avia1991]

Quote: igor_m_p

Well, against the RPG, the machine will obviously be rather weak unfortunately ...

As for RPGs, I corrected quickly, it is clear that active armor is needed against him. But a 30-mm shell, and even armor-piercing, one would still have to! I doubt, to be honest, that the Natsik planned to fight with armored vehicles, and were worried about the presence of armor-piercing ammunition. High-explosive fragmentation - this is closer to the topic. With regards to the RPG - why does the armor come with the infantry? Covering each other ..

[Hammer]

Quote: avia1991

This is why you make such a thoughtful conclusion? The T-34 showed excellent performance in the mountains of Afghanistan (there was such a period, really!), And they were bombarded there not only with machine guns. And it will definitely withstand the specified weapon against you.

When testing a 30 mm armor-piercing projectile, shelling of the t-55 (and in the frontal projection) was removed from preservation and staffed. After inspecting the tank, it was deemed unsuitable for further exploitation and even restoration. There was no through penetration of the frontal armor, but there were through penetrations, there was not a whole observation device on the tank, the whole zip was swept away, tracks with rollers were killed. The tank’s gun was pierced through in three or four places. In general, the crew might have survived inside, but it came to complete combat unsuitability of a chance for recovery. And as you know the T-55, this is far from the T-34.
And to say that the T-34 will stand up against the RPGs is simply ridiculous. The Faustpatrons burned their WWII in dozens, and against RPG-7 and Abrams there were not many chances.
The only chance for the T-34 is the role of a mobile firing point. He jumped to the right point, quickly shot a couple of three shots at the enemy, and left just as quickly. While the enemy comes to his senses.
He would still have lattice screens to weld on the sides and the tower.

[avia1991]

Quote: Hammer

the whole zip was swept away, tracks with rollers were killed. The tank’s gun was pierced through in three or four places

This is how many times in it, poor fellow, hollowed? .. And what, do you think, in real battle, too, so many times substituted? No, I do not call for replacing the entire T-72 fleet with 34 matches - but they could play their role in these conditions. Since effective military assistance from Russia is not expected.
And about RPGs - if you have not noticed, I have a comment for a very specific quote ..

He would still have lattice screens to weld on the sides and the tower.

Also an option! In general, I do not think that they should be discounted.

[igor_m_p]

Quote: Hammer

When testing 30 mm armor-piercing shell fired t-55 (and in the frontal projection)

Which shell? Which gun? What is the distance? Angle of hit?

30-mm gun 2А42 (this is exactly how it stands on the BMD) with a projectile 3UBR8 from a distance of 100 meters pierces 45 mm of armor at an angle of inclination of 60 degrees. At 500 meters - only 33 mm.
The T-34-85 has frontal armor of the body just 45 mm, the inclination is 60 degrees. The tower has a stronger reservation. But who will drive up on such a tank on 100 meters?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Orc-78

. The main thing would be shells.

Are you serious ? Can you imagine the condition of the gun ???

[avia1991]

Quote: Bayonet

Can you imagine the condition of the gun ???

In excellent, if it was correctly preserved! Don't you know? All T-34s, standing in the form of monuments, are in an almost ready state, after de-preservation they can be used for their intended purpose .. well, there are cases of vandalism, of course. But damage of this kind is usually reparable.

[Cynic]

Quote: avia1991

are almost ready

About this in the media they said _ The gun is brewed!
True, they didn’t specify where, cutting is not a problem.
He didn’t go to a tank duel!
Here are the shells ...

[avia1991]

Quote: Cynic

About this in the media they said _ The gun is brewed!

Indeed, the trunk is brewed, otherwise imagine how much all sorts of stuff can be crammed in there ?! And as for the shells ... maybe there are hidden in the same mines?

[Cynic]

Quote: avia1991

maybe in the same mines there are hidden?

Shelf life not only products have, like 40 years, of course storage conditions.
But what of the modern ...

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: e_krendel

Although an old man, but beautiful and impetuous!

It is a pity that Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin did not see the triumph of his child!

[sergey261180]

Quote: VOLCHONOKSURALA

It is a pity that Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin did not see the triumph of his child!

SHAME he did not see! What normal tanks can not our authorities give, or have troops finally entered ?!

[2я19]

There is no need to enter the troops and there is no need to arm the tanks, but wearable weapons are another matter. I want to believe that this is all right ...

[sergey261180]

Quote: 2я19

There’s no reason to enter the troops and you don’t need to arm the tanks,

What is not necessary?

[Rblipetsk]

Quote: sergey261180

What is not necessary?

tanks - iron. will miners sit at leverage? and service, BC, fuel ... there are too many questions.

[sergey261180]

Quote: RBLipetsk

tanks - iron. will miners sit at leverage? and service, BC, fuel ... there are too many questions.

Something did not arise in Crimea ...

[Rblipetsk]

Quote: sergey261180

Something did not arise in Crimea ...

boy, are you kidding me like that or .... daughter of an officer?

[2я19]

Why does Donbass need a tank? What to do with him? Kiev to take, as in the 43rd? Attach the "Cornet D" to the Niva and enough ... Well, or 82mm in a pickup.

[sergey261180]

Quote: 2я19

Kiev take, as in the 43rd?

Have to.

[2я19]

You are right, Kiev will have to take, but not as in 43rd. He himself will come, he will come as a prodigal son, even though he is a "mother", and tanks in Donbass will not help in this. TU-22M3 will be needed in Crimea. The militias need help solving urgent tasks, they don't need tanks.

[Bayonet]

Again for the old? Russia does not need a war! If such a hunt - privately ahead.

[sergey261180]

Quote: Bayonet

Again for the old? Russia does not need a war! If such a hunt - privately ahead.

And here, let me !!!
1. Russia does not need a war, yes, but it is already going so that there is no choice.
2. Russia - the Russian Federation is a state for Russians (or not?), Therefore it should protect Russians. For protection in the state the armed forces of the Russian Federation are provided, so they must fight.
3. Mercenaries or felons are fighting privately. To fight privately in the territory of another state is an international crime. The Geneva Convention does not apply to such prisoners. If you sleep there, the authorities will make a surprised face and will extradite you without a bazaar to The Hague. So no private orders, only state ones.

[Aikusun]

And here you are!
1. Military clashes take place on the territory of another state, and we, without good reason, cannot take and send troops.
2. The answer is the same as for paragraph 1.
3. This does not prevent people from other states from joining the militia. If you are such a fighter for justice, then go ahead!

How many read comments on articles, it seems that there are only ministers, strategists and tactics sitting there. Now there is a very delicate policy. And in all respects, Russia is on horseback! Why ruin all the results by sending troops into the territory of a neighboring state. The LPR and the DPR still cannot organize the authorities, and they have military clashes and a difficult situation. But they had to understand that just by holding a referendum, he couldn’t get rid of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is necessary to think through 5-10 steps forward. Like GDP. You look at how the European media are beginning to change their attitude towards the situation in Ukraine. After all, there is a tendency to change the coverage of events to a more objective one. After all, politicians began to appear who are against sanctions and against confrontation with Russia. Everything goes on as usual. So it is necessary to continue. To rattle a weapon is the most primitive way of conducting politics in the modern world. America has already proven this, do not stoop to its level.

[Yorgven]

War is not needed, quick and high-quality destruction of the junta and accomplices is needed, it was such a good day yesterday, it was possible to cover the whole gang with two operational tactical missiles, at the same time as the US ambassador - during their joint coven ... The missile is the same drone, you have to act like the Yankees and even bolder ... And no border crossing, nothing personal, just the destruction of terrorists.

[Aikusun]

Do you want to be on par with the United States in terms of methods of influencing other states? I do not want, and do not want, the country in which I live to embark on the path of a military aggressor. If you delve into history, it will become obvious that all aggressors lie in damp land. And the USA will be there. They have neither the strength nor the people to control the whole world. Tear up. As long as there is the USA, Russia has an ally, China, which hates America very well. So the end will come and star-striped dictates.

[sergey261180]

Quote: AikuSun

Do you want to be on par with the United States in terms of methods of influencing other states? I don’t want and don’t want the country in which I live to take the path of the military aggressor

Although you are a Pacifist, you must enter the troops.

Quote: AikuSun

If you delve into history, it will become obvious that all aggressors lie in damp land.

The winners write the story, but the winners are not judged.

Quote: AikuSun

As long as there is the USA, Russia has an ally, China, which

Which and will nap chop off Siberia.

[Horn]

Read the Constitution. Well, or do not excuse yourself from the army, go away, serve, how many are serving there now? half a month or something ... There you will read the Oath and find out to whom you swear.

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: Bayonet

Again for the old? Russia does not need a war!

And when was she needed ???

Quote: Bayonet

If such a hunt -

The fact of the matter is that this hunt is for all evil spirits that climb over the hillock! As always. And as always, she needs to be persuaded, on time and firmly. So as not to let her go for a walk!

[vladimirZ]

After the referendum on self-determination, it is necessary to create the Federal Republic of Novorossia, its state bodies, the Army and power structures as soon as possible.
In the shortest possible time, reassign all power, army, border and other structures to themselves. Those who did not want to reassign the new state to remove from work, appoint new ones.
Actively combat acts of sabotage, disobedience and confrontation.
The most important thing is to create an army capable of clearing the territory of the people's republics of the occupying forces of Nazi Bandera Ukraine.

[Sandov]

Quote: vladimirZ

After the referendum on self-determination, it is necessary to create the Federal Republic of Novorossia, its state bodies, the Army and power structures as soon as possible.

Today, this is the most important thing, otherwise the banderlogs will be crushed.

[gav6757]

Yes, but you need someone to stand at the helm! I need someone like Aksyonov in the Crimea!
I would not mind that the current Aksyonov would change, over time, Putin in the presidential chair !!!
Well, it is not Medvezhenka who will change him, otherwise he will again instruct the "effective managers" of the Serdyukovs everywhere.
In general, a LEADER is needed!

[valentine]

About 20 years ago, some dreamed that the Old Man of all Belarusians would replace the EBN. Result? No need to fuss.

[valentine]

I fully support!

[Sandov]

Quote: Duke

Glory to Lugansk.

Now, as soon as possible, organize your competent authorities, convince the military and border guards of the transition to the side of the people. Create Sat. Build life in the region. Conclude economic and political agreements with Russia. Then the Republic of Novorossia will survive

[Sinara70]

Thank you guys for posting this video on the site !!!!
I did not fight, did not have time ...... My father and grandfather fought ....
In the infantry to Stalingrad, then the tankman - gunner - machine gunner for the first 6 days on the Kursk Bulge ... between Stalingrad and Kursk - injured and the hospital ....
Until 1966, a splinter was hanging on the right buttock near Stalingrad .... the doctors could not or were afraid to extract it .... And in the bathhouse I asked my father ... ?? Where it comes from is the only answer --- the ammunition was transported through the Volga ... In 1966, these fragments were cut ..... Unfortunately - I didn’t save .... I couldn’t .... By stupidity and thoughtlessness at that time apparently .... And near Kursk, all eight fingers were pierced by German bullets ... under the very nails ..... And until the end of his days, and he died on July 15, 1998 .. the nails were crooked .....
What I want to say ::: 6 Honor and Glory to People With a Capital Letter of Donbass and Lugansk, ALL THEM and those who are alive today, and those who died under the bullets of Bandera ....
And they do not blow this fate !!!!
I am sure and I know-RISE ALSO RISE AND Odessa-CITY-HERO, and Kharkov and Zaporozhye, and the entire South-East .....
You can’t live in peace with the Nazis. !!!!

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

Quote: mig31

It's time to fight, so that the rest of the "HEROI" think ...

Remembered

Good photo.

[svp67]

Here is the main slogan and "slang" of Donbass

[zanoza]

Warriors from the Donbass and on the walls of the Reichstag left their signatures:

[Wels75]

to catch up with this news (Schaub quickly draped dill from the land of Donbass) clarifications on yesterday's ambush!

From the press service of Igor Strelkov:

“Yesterday there was different information about the losses of the militias. You said that a volunteer from the Dnieper died, others wrote that one of Donetsk, then that one of Makeevka. And Avakov wrote that 65 of our people died. Your comment is required. The people are worried. "

Igor Strelkov:

“A little confused when reporting. A fighter from the Dnepropetrovsk region was wounded, and a fighter from Makeevka died.
We have no more losses. The enemy destroyed 2 armored personnel carriers, 2 GAZ-66 (1 - with a mortar in the back). My subordinates claim that they killed and wounded at least 20 people. However, the figure of 7 killed and 8 wounded, which the Ukrainians admitted, is also rather big. ”

Source Russian spring: http://rusvesna.su/news/1400073140 there is a photo and video (as the APC dies)

Hooray comrades! Victory will be ours! The enemy will be defeated!

PS: I sit and cry her sob "The State Border Service said that Bolotov was released from Ukraine, since there were no bans on his departure." Ukrodebiloids !!!!!!!

[matross]

Quote: Veles75

I sit and cry her sob "The State Border Service said that Bolotov was released from Ukraine, since there were no bans on his departure." Ukrobiloydy !!!!!!!

The border guards simply thought about how and whom to serve next. The transition is on the territory of New Russia ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: matRoss

The border guards simply thought about how and whom to serve next. The transition is on the territory of New Russia ...

We all have to go to the negotiating table as before.

[Sandov]

Quote: Veles75

PS: I sit and cry her sob "The State Border Service said that Bolotov was released from Ukraine, since there were no bans on his departure." Ukrodebiloids !!!!!!!

Just not fools, they understand on whose side the truth.
which Ukrainians recognized is also rather big. ”
These are not Ukrainians but Banderlogs, Ukrainians are fighting against these rats.

[aleks_29296]

You shouldn’t be so at the border guards. There, too, not all stupid people understand that for what. I do not think that they like what is happening in their country.

[aleks_29296]

You shouldn’t be so at the border guards. There, too, not all stupid people understand that for what. I do not think that they like what is happening in their country. Well, they said the same, everything is according to the law. Do not quibble.

[Slon1978]

If fresh forces appeared, then it would be wise to seize some kind of border crossing, hold at least 1-2 days and during this time start a train with weapons from Russia. I think this option will be realized sooner or later, now it may not be time yet - you have to wait for the elections and look at the deal.

[Arberes]

Quote: Slon1978

If fresh forces appeared, then it would be wise to capture some kind of border crossing,

A very sensible proposal, we must by all possible and impossible ways to facilitate the border regime with us! This is a very important stage in the formation of a new independent state! Border guards must recognize the new power of Novorossia and submit to it or leave, surrendering authority to the fighters of the Donbass republic!

[mamont5]

Quote: Slon1978

If fresh forces appeared, then it would be wise to seize some kind of border crossing, keep at least 1-2 days and during that time start a train with weapons from Russia.

Why, the howl will rise again. They endured for a long time, now the victory is near.
Drag the border guards to their side and officially open the border with Russia, which may well help legally.

[matross]

Quote: mamont5

They endured for a long time, now the victory is near.

Now I looked at an interview with Naryshkin on Rossii24. Not directly, but understandable: Russia intends to recognize Poroshenko's election. Accordingly, there will be no help and support for Novorossiya. Here is such a "close victory", damn it! And here we advise you to occupy border crossings ...

[valentine]

We must remember that we have the top of the same oligarchs. There is nothing sacred for them. Agree behind the back of the people to their own benefit.

[Azzzwer]

Quote: matRoss

Now I looked at an interview with Naryshkin on Rossii24. Not directly, but understandable: Russia intends to recognize Poroshenko's election. Accordingly, there will be no help and support for Novorossiya. Here is such a "close victory", damn it! And here we advise you to occupy border crossings ...

Because in Russia capitalism, this USSR could support Republicans in 1936, and under capitalism, the capitalist would support the capitalist!

[573385]

A couple of months ago, I put a box of "Caspian" for the fact that Putin will bend in front of the West. 40 billion candy wrappers in a Swiss bank were found at Putin's later. Naryshkin's statement is not even flowers, but buds. Donbass and Lugansk will face the fate of Transnistria, if not worse. When "there is" the rest of the "rainy day" hundred, Putin will personally run to overthrow the "separatists".

[Ivan Tarasov]

40 billion candy wrappers in a Swiss bank at Putin found later

Where does this information come from?
If the information is from the Ukrainian television channel Parashenko - do not pay attention to it, these are lies.
Ukrainian TV channels deceive citizens.

[avia1991]

Quote: matRoss

Now I looked at the interview with Naryshkin on Rossii24.

I also saw it, even in the afternoon .. I tried to "come up" for myself an excuse for these words - they say, "cunning trick with the ears", etc. - it does not work! It's simple: it seems that our top leaders need an undivided Ukraine to the bone! Although the representatives of the South-East themselves have repeatedly voiced their position: they will NOT seek dialogue with Kiev anymore - there’s nothing to talk about with it!

[gav6757]

Weapons are enough! You just need to pick it up. There are state reserve warehouses in salt mines clogged to capacity, weapons in grease, the middle of the last century and cartridges for it. It is necessary to take and use, not much inferior to the current, I write about small arms. In addition, easy to handle.
Generally dare men !!!
Ah, you need to open the border! Any trade will go, people will go on a visit, maybe someone wants to work in Ukraine, under a contract ... For banderlogs, there to look after, maybe life will help to establish, or to open a funeral home ... Who knows? !!!

[aksakal]

Quote: Slon1978

If fresh forces appeared, then it would be wise to seize some kind of border crossing, hold it for at least 1-2 days, and during this time, create a train with weapons from Russia. I think this option will be realized sooner or later, now it may not be time yet - you have to wait for the elections and look at the deal

- let's get cold - until the Americans cross the line? The junta has no stingers, right up to the Abrams tanks? Well, besides all kinds of binoculars and dry drinks? So the Russians do not have to rush into this - as soon as

Quote: Slon1978

start a train with weapons from Russia

- so the Americans go there two echelons, and also Poland, Romania and other brethren will throw in, then something will flare up! No, not a topic. Let them fight as they are, but if they throw it up, then one that will definitely be found in Donbass itself, in short, is not quite the newest Russian one. RPG-7, but not "Vampire" and all the more "Hashima", "Igloo-1", but not the latest modifications of MANPADS, neither Orsis T-5000 "and" Cornets "should be there ... In short , skillfully to do so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose.
Putin doesn't need these two stubs - Donbass and Luhansk. We need all of Ukraine. And he waits, he says: "Not guys, I won't give a fish (to join Russia), but take a fishing rod and prove that you can do this very fish!" Let them build a capable Novorossia, let them work out and conclude between themselves, between Donetsk and Lugansk, a successful version of a federal Treaty, according to which the whole of Ukraine will be able to live in the future, and so that during a dispute over this Treaty not to squabble, build, structure and debug at home each on the state apparatus plus build, structure and debug federal bodies, competently delegate a number of powers there, carry out economic reforms so successfully that with the help of Russia, of course, but NOT TOTAL help! - the standard of living and the level of economic development in Novorossia very quickly surpassed the similar level of the rest of Ukraine, and then those regions that still fluctuate, well, Odessa there, Kharkov, will also join by signing that federal treaty. In a successful scenario, such federalization can take on a hurricane nature, and the whole of Ukraine can turn out to be a federal, integral, independent and, most importantly, friendly to Russia country. Does Russia need something else? And so - to admit to Russia, thereby increasing the number of depressed and subsidized regions by two more regions, plus heavy sanctions from the West, which together can simply undermine the Russian budget to death ... Mlyn, that these regions, that all of Ukraine was robbed for 23 years all sorts of Kolomois, and now Russia is to restore this business? The Ukrainians themselves must restore, Russia did not sign "to collect honey in honeycombs, so that the Kolomoisky beekeepers would again raid". I understand your attitude, but for this, for the sake of brothers-Ukrainians, we are ready to endure hunger! - I believe, but why? When can you be smart?

[avia1991]

Quote: aksakal

a federal treaty, according to which the whole of Ukraine will be able to live, and in case of a dispute over this treaty not to quarrel, build, structure and debug each state apparatus plus build, structure and debug federal bodies, delegate a number of powers competently, hold economic reforms are so successful that with the help of Russia, of course, but NOT TOTAL help!

And what about the opinion of the "Russians of the South-East" themselves? We are sitting here at the monitors, and stupidly give them "valuable" advice on how and what to do .. Or maybe THEY SEE THERE ?!
Have you read this opinion? http://warfiles.ru/show-56260-sovet-russkim-v-rossii-ot-russkih-na-ukraine.html
Maybe instead of discussing geopolitical issues, just ask the guys: "how can we help you?" Not our politicians, they are what they are, and you can't look into their heads .. WE ARE YOURSELF?

[Slon1978]

I disagree with you. The Americans do not supply weapons to Ukraine now for a completely different reason - there is no point in this, since The Ukrainian army is now not opposed by a force against which would require modern weapons made by the United States (Russian Army). For the war with the rebels, dill has plenty of weapons. Again, there is a precedent - Syria, where the United States supplies modern weapons to the rebels, moreover, those associated with Al-Qaeda in violation of all international norms. These actions were legitimized by a decree of the US Congress. Therefore, I do not see any obvious legal reasons, or imbalance with possible mirror response actions with the United States, if the State Duma makes a similar decision and we supply the rebels of the South-East with modern defensive weapons - in particular ATGMs, RPGs, rifle fire of all types, under strict account also of MANPADS (and possibly "included" and with our operators "volunteers" of these complexes - by the way, it is possible that they are ALREADY there).

[Cynic]

Quote: Slon1978

and we will supply modern weapons to the rebels of the Southeast

What for ?
In Ukraine, weapons are like dirt, you only need the will to make a decision.
And about the MODERN (ATGM, RPG, MANPADS), I think you joked unsuccessfully.

[aleks700]

There is a difference. Where is America and where is Russia. No one is threatening the borders of America; their fellow tribesmen are not being killed.

[Horn]

Absolutely right! Do not catch fleas, no need to rush!

[Federal new]

The funny thing is that joining Russia is considered the last happiness on Earth, well, it's just heaven on earth. I am a separatist from Lugansk and despise the dill state, I have never belonged to the maydauns, but there has never been such banditry as now in Lugansk. People were fed up with this anarchy, Bolotov or not Bolotov, I don’t know who is behind it, but the whole city knows that there are new gopniks with trunks behind the criminal lawlessness in the city. Who they I do not know, as a rule, former urki, the driving force of any revolution. It is possible to understand this, but it’s time to bring Bolotov to an elementary order. People turn away from this lawlessness en masse, commerce leave for Ukraine, remain barefoot in anticipation of Putin's alms, the city is lumpenized, this euphoria of tramp annoys everyone. There will be no help from Russia, we all understand that the economy. the growth of Russia will never be sacrificed to the useless in the economic sense of Donbass. This is the base for the explosion of the main dill. This is also understandable, but criminality has flooded the city. I personally recently tried to take a hopstop. The summary is to say that I want terribly under Putin with a Chechen spree and Moskvabad ... I can’t, I was in Moscow more than once, in Kiev it was always better and calmer and cleaner, there are more white civilians and everything is much more cultured, so do not be mistaken think that we all here want to keep you content… It’s unbearable for me ... This is my personal sight, but the attitude towards resistance is changing rapidly and for Bolotov this should be a signal to restore order and take power in hand, shoot your dishonest looters and angry corners finally nicks or not to play adult games

[Cynic]

Quote: Federal new

I am a separatist from Lugansk and despise the dill state

You should at least finish some courses, such as how to properly provoke, before starting such a career on the net.

Quote: Federal new

shoot down dishonest homies to marauders and criminals

I remember the amnesty and the call becomes in the ranks of someone else carried out ?!
Or how ?
Yes, I don’t know how you are in Ukraine, but Mokali have not suffered from illusions for a long time, the 90th is a good school.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Slon1978

If fresh forces appeared, it would be wise to seize some kind of border crossing, hold at least 1-2 days and during this time start a train with weapons from Russia

Why trifle, immediately drop off the Pskov Airborne Division together with brigades of the Special Operations Directorate of the GRU in Kiev, and even better, declare war on everyone who can. Russia does not get used to pour blood.

Quote: Slon1978

I think this option will be realized sooner or later, now it may not be time yet - you have to wait for the elections and look at the deal

The Russian border guards also have such a concept as "oath" and a similar "option" can be implemented either in the first version (Airborne Forces, GRU, etc.) or in an armed attack on Russia, with all the consequences. I don't want to offend anyone, but people who give such "advice" in all seriousness are either enemies or fools. With respect.
PS: Is there really not a single army depot in the Southeast, not a single arsenal that there is such a need to seize border crossings (read - to kill border guards) and drive anything by trains from Russia?

[Cynic]

Quote: Slon1978

start a train with weapons from Russia.

Do you know anything about the Organization of the Warsaw Treaty Countries and what was the Union Republic of Ukraine for it then?

[Slon1978]

OFFER! If Igor Strelkov reads the site or one of his subordinates reports to him, let him make a video where Igor Ivanovich will personally dictate the details of the account where to transfer money to help them. There is no trust in any intermediaries - details are only from his lips personally! To help protect the Southeast from the Nazis is possible not only morally (here on the site), but also financially, and I am sure they can buy weapons from dill warriors themselves.

[moscow]

Not so long ago there was a video interview with Strelkov. I'll try to quote:
"We do not need money, we have enough weapons. We need volunteers."

[subbtin.725]

Quote: moskow

Not so long ago there was a video interview with Strelkov. I'll try to quote:
"We do not need money, we have enough weapons. We need volunteers."

Then it is necessary to solve the problem of border crossings, although financial injections have not yet interfered with in any serious business.

[dik-fort]

According to journalists in Slavyansk, the militia does not even have money for gas, in addition, the militia not only in Slavyansk, but also in other cities, the money will never be in the way, and the families of the dead militias should be helped. I am transferring money here:
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ еще с Крымской весны.

[socrates7]

For a long time I do not believe reporters, neither my own nor anyone else's.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: dik-fort

According to journalists in Slavyansk, the militias don’t even have money for gas,

I believe that the point here is not the lack of money, but the lack of gasoline. With respect.
PS: Thanks for the link.

[matross]

Quote: moskow

"We do not need money, we have enough weapons. We need volunteers."

Well, yes, where to get them, volunteers! There are few men in the Donbass ... maybe they will drive up from Russia

[dr.Bo]

I support !! "From each on a thread, a shirt naked!"

[jjj]

Defense weapon.
One high-voltage phase is connected and welded to a steel profile - a T-bar or an I-beam, five to seven meters long, parallel to the defense front, but 50 meters ahead. All this is sprinkled with earth mixed with salt and poured with water to make it "wet" enough. The voltage is supplied through a remote starter. The stepping voltage will bring the attackers to life well. Effective in protecting objects

[Luga]

Quote: dr.Bo

I support !! "From each on a thread, a shirt naked!"

From each thread - junta rope

[zanoza]

Quote: Slon1978

.... personally dictate the details of the account where to transfer money to help them ...

As soon as Igor Ivanovich announces this, then this Ukrainian Bank, where the account is open, kirdyk will be.
If this is a Russian bank, then the West will also plot it.
In this case, publicity is not always needed.
Good wishes, but difficult to implement in open mode.

[Luga]

Unfortunately.

[Drshan]

Well, I don’t know what about the bank’s open details, but I just transferred it to the card number. There were no problems.

[Slon1978]

I really didn’t think about it in a heartbeat, you are right. But, I think, there is a variant of a different plan - a QIWI wallet for example or similar. Even easier than a bank transfer. But it is important to hear from I. Strelkov personally, so as not to run into crooks.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Slon1978

OFFER! If Igor Strelkov reads the site or one of his subordinates reports to him, let him make a video where Igor Ivanovich will personally dictate the details of the account where to transfer money to help them. There is no trust in any intermediaries - details are only from his lips personally! To help protect the Southeast from the Nazis is possible not only morally (here on the site), but also financially, and I am sure they can buy weapons from dill warriors themselves.

But this, a very important idea; effective. With great respect to Strelkov, RESPECT!

[Sandov]

Quote: Slon1978

OFFER! If Igor Strelkov reads the site or one of his subordinates reports to him, let him make a video where Igor Ivanovich will personally dictate the details of the account where to transfer money to help them.

Ready to support this matter, would be younger with a weapon would go to destroy the Nazis.

[alex80]

I transferred the money here for these details from the official website of the DPR:
http://donetsk-gov.su/?p=53

[istomin36]

He said that there are no problems with money. There is a need for some types of weapons.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Slon1978

OFFER! If Igor Strelkov reads the site or one of his subordinates reports to him, let him make a video where Igor Ivanovich will personally dictate the details of the account where to transfer money to help them. There is no trust in any intermediaries - details are only from his lips personally! To help protect the Southeast from the Nazis is possible not only morally (here on the site), but also financially, and I am sure they can buy weapons from dill warriors themselves.

Here I absolutely agree with this !!!

[Lord of the Sith]

Armaments are catastrophically small, especially heavy, there is practically no equipment for offensives. Ambush yes, you can do separate night outings.

Well, I hope there will be rewards

[Ragoz]

Why shouldn’t the half-burned remains of heavy equipment be towed to checkpoints?

[mihasik]

It's time to fight so that the rest of the "HEROI" think ..

While they are doing everything right. They are too few and the equipment is not suitable for open battles in the steppe area. City yes.

[istomin36]

It's time to fight, so that the rest of the "HEROI" think ...

Our troops are preparing - http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/05/14/1268373.html

MOSCOW, May 14. The Russian Defense Ministry decided to hold the Aviadarts-2014 exercise in the Voronezh region, which borders Ukraine, from May 21 to 26. They will coincide with the first round of the presidential elections in Ukraine, which will take place on May 25.

During the exercises, the crews of 71 military aircraft and helicopters will rehearse the enemy air defense, the destruction of ground targets and carpet bombing of enemy territory.

"The active phase of the exercises, when the pilots will directly perform missions in the air, including the use of military weapons, will take place on May 24-25," said Colonel Igor Klimov, head of the information support group, Air Force. May 21 will open, May 22-23 - theoretical exams and passing standards for physical training, May 26 - closing with awarding of winners.

The deputy director of the Institute for Political and Military Analysis, Alexander Khramchikhin, did not rule out that the choice of the date of aviation training was made intentionally.

"It is quite possible that the Ministry of Defense was guided by the evolving military-political situation in Ukraine," the expert said.
Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/05/14/1268373.html

[Ross]

Handsome Babai!

[Phase]

"Retreating, we rotated the earth back - it was the case at first
But our battalion commander spun it back, pushing off with his foot from the Urals ... "

(V.Vysotsky, "We rotate the earth")

[Al_lexx]

Now the most important thing is that Lugansk-Donbass consolidate as quickly as possible on all organizational matters. They have established their own ministries or, if you will, the commissariats. As quickly as possible, they reorganized the accounting of all nationalized industries (created a real Ministry of Finance). And of course they organized a well-managed Ministry of Internal Affairs and an army.
Then their neighbors will receive an additional impetus to join these areas, and itself, while still small Novorossiya, will be able to begin to effectively liberate its lands from the Kiev / American presence.
I really hope that by the end of May they will solve all these issues.

[Duke]

Great people and songs.

[not main]

Quote: Duke

Great people and songs.

Commenting is pointless! Just a BIG THANKS!

[fzr1000]

In its course, managed to capture the head of the VTK (Eastern Territorial Command) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Lebed.

Hooray! Another would be to take Goljashko. He also imagines himself a "warrior".

[strannik595]

Hooray! Another would be to take Goljashko. He also imagines himself a "warrior".

........ a gay warrior, also a pedophile ..... he’d better not get into a Russian court, otherwise he will crow in another way ....... Russia is not Ukraine, that's for sure, mos. if they are so harsh and unpredictable, they will make you jump not in a childish way

[thinking]

they took it, but they lowered it for 200 green mowers. Get used to it - barter and exchange will often

[Hariva]

Where did the firewood come from? No, really interesting.

[gav6757]

Omitted or released?
These are generally different things !!!
If lowered, and he gave money for pleasure, then probably this is not bad ...
Then you can and count!

[Luga]

Quote: fzr1000

Hooray! Another would be to take Goljashko. He also imagines himself a "warrior".

Yeah, "fighting pid.aras". Just beckon him with his bare ass - he will come running. The only problem is that Drnbass is not a gayrope - there are no people willing to trade with their ass.
Yes, and do not mind. Something tells me that everything that this pid.or does, he does in order to be in the Russian zone, so that he’s not going anywhere.

[taurus5.85]

Not an ass, but a member, he is herding

[aleks700]

So they wrote that they took it, but I look, he is already in parliament. Lied? Or released?

[Giant thought]

Well done guys, a little strength has been dug up. Slaughter these heroes from the heart so that they run to their galicia and do not look back.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Thought Giant

Well done guys, a little strength has been dug up. Slaughter these heroes from the heart so that they run to their galicia and do not look back.

And there they will add fun to the Poles, but the Balts should.

[igordok]

Learn at http://summer56.livejournal.com/ a lot of interesting information.

[Sochi]

Signed action ... let them be unforgettable.

[nicollider]

the news about Bolotov made my day. it is a masterpiece. I'm sitting and crying!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

In general, I like Bolotov (as a military politician and organizer). He has charisma in his eyes and shows his actions .. (I'm not talking about slogans and appeals to the public, as some people usually like) .. A team of assistants to him would be loyal and competent .. brought in Ukraine ..! (not for nothing that they want to junta to liquidate it) Well oh well .. let's see

[Barakuda]

According to all Ukrainian media rage .. Turchinov and Lyashko especially. How so, he took it and left for Russia without permission. Turchinov promised to punish the guilty.

[Hariva]

Kernes in Israel is of course in the order of things. Personally, I probably went to Turchinov for permission. Bleeding into the office crawled.

[Ased]

Quote: Barracuda

According to all Ukrainian media rage .. Turchinov and Lyashko especially. How so, he took it and left for Russia without permission. Turchinov promised to punish the guilty.

By the way - it is interesting: how to punish and who is "guilty"?
How did they let him in at the border? Really funny!

[nicollider]

First, the golden eagle was made an extreme, now the border guards.

[Peter Timofeev]

Junta, it's time to pack your bags.

[kocclissi]

Quote: Petr Timofeev

Junta, it's time to pack your bags.

Dry crackers and this is at best!

[pts-m]

Great idea of ​​going on the offensive! Nobody canceled the tactics of guerrilla warfare!

[Ased]

Quote: PTS-m

Great idea of ​​going on the offensive! Nobody canceled the tactics of guerrilla warfare!

Actually, it's high time. But then all the media are surely yelling about terrorism. And about the Civil War.

[Same lech]

Ukrainian Natsik should be forced to fear their own shadow ..
I can say unequivocally that as fighters they are complete wow .. but.

Therefore, if I choose the tactics of constant attack on them, I am sure ... many of them will not show their nose in the SOUTH-EAST.

In addition, it is advisable to shoot a demonstrative ambush or operation to eliminate the odious pravoseki on a video and distribute it on the Internet ..... a very serious psychological weapon ... will put pressure on their eggs ... preventing them from sleeping normally.


Next, you need to pay special attention to the mercenaries ... this contingent requires a special approach.

[antoha]

To catch the mercenaries and to scroll them through the central channels, the Americans will bile out.

[Sochi]

let's guys act !!! God help you! And the junta will help Austria - with coffins.

Recall that previously the Ukrainian special forces received from Germany valuable humanitarian assistance: a modern military uniform.
According to the German representative, this form "is a tribute to the long-standing traditions of cooperation between our countries, the beginning of which was laid back during the Second World War."
In turn, Austrian entrepreneurs hastened to follow the example of their northern neighbor. “During the war, our country delivered dozens, if not hundreds, of benign coffins to Ukraine every week. You should not lose such an experience, ”said the representative of the Austrian company Junta saugt.
Humanitarian aid from Austria will go to the Ukrainian security forces conducting a counter-theoretical operation in southeastern Ukraine in the coming days. If not already received. - http://infoodessa.com/index.php/entry/evropa-izdevaetsya-nad-ukrainoj-v-kachestv
e-humanitarnoj-pomoshchi-nats-gvardii-prishlyut-groby-vysokogo-kachestva.html

[subbtin.725]

Take control of customs and border crossings, and then everyone will be surprised to say: How beautifully and professionally the militia began to fight, and maybe a little "polite", and what an accurate weapon they have. The Russian spirit, he is near. Like there in the cinema : IS THE PROOF?

[kodxnumx]

thank God, now the military units will begin to switch sides to the southeast, I think before the elections 25 it will be less or less clear, and as it seems to me in Europe they have realized this, and they’ll spend the night draining the setument, they don’t need problems, but they’ll start the United States now shit in full they are also not stupid people, too, understand that everything is not going according to their scenario, as soon as possible to put an end, people are dying and this is very bad!

[DanSabaka]

it's time to join the rest of Ukraine to the DNI ....

[individual]

If before Donbass and Lugansk fought for the idea, then after a convincing referendum they will defend their people's republic.

[DerSamowar]

Well, citizens, let's go! Operation Barbarossa 2. Those were the Belarusian swamps, and now the Novorossiysk forest-steppe. Be kind, comrades fascists, defend yourself!

PS That’s a joke, if Turchinov and Yatsenyuk on April 30 (May, June, July, August) receive poison in the bunker under the Verkhovna Rada, and Tyagnibok and Yarosh flee to South America. Or not. Most likely, in the North.

[All1]

I liked the picture

[Orik]

Quote: Alll1

I liked the picture

Diarrhea will begin in the entire "progressive" world, I'm afraid the west will flood with shit.

[CrazyMishka]

Well, it almost happened :)

[gav6757]

Oh, how we miss grandfather STALIN !!!

[A1L9E4K9S]

It’s time, it’s time for the guys to go on the offensive, it’s enough to sit on the defensive, as they say under a lying stone and the water does not flow, all this trash should be thrown out of the republic.

[dr.star75]

Victory in the trenches of others! But some kind of strange war: first, one in a month reports a punitive operation, then others about the beginning of a counterattack. So it should be?

[Signaller]

Comrade Zhukov Georgy Konstantinovich always used to say. "The best defense is offensive." It is an axiom to beat the enemy wherever you want, and not where you have caught. At a lower cost, the effect of defensive battles in the conduct of an offensive will be higher. You go the right way.

[Orik]

Quote: Signaller

Comrade Zhukov Georgy Konstantinovich always used to say. "The best defense is offensive." It is an axiom to beat the enemy wherever you want, and not where you have caught. At a lower cost, the effect of defensive battles in the conduct of an offensive will be higher. You go the right way.

Victory always lies in the trenches of the enemy.

[shibi]

Quote: Slon1978

If fresh forces appeared, then it would be wise to seize some kind of border crossing, hold at least 1-2 days and during this time start a train with weapons from Russia. I think this option will be realized sooner or later, now it may not be time yet - you have to wait for the elections and look at the deal.

They have enough of their weapons.

[Signaller]

And I add the imposition of defensive battles on the enemy, instead of the offensive, it fetters him not only physically, but also morally, that there is already half the victory. Good luck.

[Good_Taxist]

Burn, GUYS! You will succeed! Give THAT God!

[pensioner]

Turchinov promised to punish the guilty.

And then he suddenly remembered the Russian idiomatic expression "Hands are short" and burst into tears from his own impotence ...

[Hariva]

It would be better to shoot himself from insult at his own impotence

[gav6757]

On impotence ...

[Silkway0026]

the junta hung around until it received an answer. Note that so far they have not received even a REAL answer. I can imagine how they will be draped when the normal regular army of the Donbass Republic is formed (and even help them a bit from us, albeit on the sly)

[Arh]

Guys I'm With You !!!

[Andrei L.]

It’s high time Bandera’s captivity is not to take and drive these shit to the western borders

[boozer]

To Kiev! Definitely! For the liberation of Ukraine from the brown plague of the 21st century!

[Atoll]

Ok to show off show-offs, they want to go to Kiev. The blockade is to be lifted from Russian cities, that is the primary task. Yes, remove the dill border guards. Let Piz ... ut into the non-land or become prisoners of war of the DNI, LC. Only then will Russia normally provide humanitarian aid, insulin and weapons. Yes, and it will be easier for volunteers to go to you.

[dron1945]

If the offensive, then it is necessary to clean up the rear ... Kramatorsk airfield to recapture or make it impossible to transfer enemy forces and means to it. It is unclear what is happening in Krasnoarmeesk, and from it the Donetsk so-called less than 50km

[jovanni]

It is time for the Donetsk Republic to appoint its chief of the border troops. And then dill is no longer in the subject.

[boozer]

In, the border guards urgently need their own!

[andrei332809]

having passed the customs control point "Dolzhansky"

this?

[kelevra]

The main thing is that you can’t go too far with the offensive! They liberated their land and that’s all, no trips to Kiev, it can go sideways, elementary, it may not have enough strength and in general, Russia will be able to help if anything, if they fight off aggression, and not promote it themselves !

[andrei332809]

Quote: kelevra

no trips to Kiev,

Kiev is the mother of Russian cities !!! banderlog in romania, hungary and other poland

[Ebundey Mukhryuev]

Nor any negotiations with the Nazis! The border is under your control. Nationalize the enterprises of the Nazi oligarchs. Creation of own state bodies and all attributes of this state. Russia will help! And miss the initiative. And the victory will be yours.
... and there you look, and others will reach for you.

[v.karewik]

The time has come to take control of two three checkpoints across the border with the Russian Federation. IF REQUIRED, IT IS VERY HARD

[Zomanus]

Yes, the junta has already broken off. They do not want to impose martial law. because the election. And this means that all the army men who are fighting against the forces of self-defense are potential criminals. Remember the first Chechen one and how our people were shaken because the Chechens were grounded. But after the election, the newly elected president may well introduce martial law. And then the army will simply dismount these rebels with their checkpoints, no matter how blasphemous it sounds. So of course the guys need to grab and gain a foothold. Fights, one might say, have not yet begun. In general, a lot of analogies with the first Chechen one slip through, only now we are on the other side. It is clear that we do not support sadistic murderers, that in general we are looking for ways of reconciliation and so on ...

[tokin1959]

it's time to sweep out all the dill power state services - army units, frontier posts, customs, SBU, and set up checkpoints at its borders.
the border with the Russian Federation will be if open - there will be no dill border protection - the influx of volunteers will only increase.

[DGZ]

That's interesting. Ukrainian border guards will release the junta from the country when they urgently want to leave ....

[Arkuda]

Quote: VOLCHONOKSURALA

It is a pity that Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin did not see the triumph of his child!

Yes, it’s a pity, it’s a pity that the devastation is complete in his homeland in the village of Brynchagi, Yaroslavl Region. And it’s necessary to give a junta to the teeth in Kiev, this is undeniable!

[29261]

(Ukraine’s special forces received valuable humanitarian assistance from Germany: a modern military uniform.) I don’t know in what place to laugh, roofing felts over the special forces and the National Guard, if they got a modern uniform. Bandyukov does not dress like he will not become a specialist. the National Guard and Ukrainian special forces, I would hang myself, because they don’t have one show off pro, and the militia wouldn’t want to kick their asses, since there are serious men there who have Afghan and combat experience before them, especially they protect their land and families !!!

[Irokez]

Not quite on the topic.
I remember the explosion at the National Guard where many people (about 100) died from ammunition and at the same time it was announced that many deserters from the Ukrainian units also escaped in the region of 100 people.
They say that this is an interconnected type of the number of people killed that was compensated by the number of those who escaped, so that the losses are hushed up.
Maybe it’s worth forging and conducting an investigation of who’s there and in what quantity for future courts and investigations and to refute any lodges, which is very unprofitable for Ukraine to the world community.
These are so ideas and thoughts in the head.

[Peter Timofeev]

By the end of the year, those who want to jump (hto not skipping that Mos Cal) will decrease significantly.

[sv68]

Donbass men, conquer the whole region and completely take all the power into your own hands. You will gain experience and will slowly begin a counterattack on fascism in neighboring regions. And we will liberate Kiev together

[Egoza]

"Bloody Tuesday for the Ukrainian army !!! Terrorists used modern weapons !!! You can't buy them in a store !!! They set up an ambush !!!!" This is what is being broadcast on TV now!

[doc62]

only a blow to some faces brings to life

[sop.ov]

Here is a detailed shot of dill

[jjj]

The birds are singing, the men are muttering. Weekdays of war

[sop.ov]

evacuation of dill wounded

[nikrandel]

Quote: Petr Timofeev

down

They jump, that all areas of them break away.

[Anisim1977]

Донбасс объявив независимость первым делом надо ликвидировать границу на своей территории.Это задача на 100% первоочередная.

[Nitarius]

теперь ГРАНИЦА то у ДНР с россией а не у КИЕВА! так что ....ТАК ГЛЯДИШЬ и ПОГРАНЦЫ к ним присоединяться

[Yellow white]

Посмотрел видео с Т-34...
Его поберечь и если дело дойдет до Киева (Дай то Бог), гусеницами проутюжить весь майдан, ну там прополоть в смысле все их свинарники-огороды...

[muhomor]

По -моему не всё так круто. Хунтята активных действий не ведут из-за боязни сорвать выборы 25.05. А вот после выборов и формального предложения Донецким о сдаче, будет очень конкретный "замес". Не зря же такие силы накапливаются в "мятежных" районах.Повстанцы же демонстрируют вялый темп закрепления провозглашённой власти.Полностью территорию не контролируют,граница и воин. части подчинены скорее Киеву. Более-менее полноценных подразделений нет. Создаётся впечатление, что все всё ещё надеются на ввод российских сил. А времени осталось максимум до 27 мая.Или Киев не будет бандеровским и выборы сорваны, или ВСЯ Украина будет бандеровской, а Россия потеряет лицо по причине своего бездействия.

[reservev18reg]

а я с Вами поспорю. в настоящее время отдельные совсем зеленые призывники уже деморализованы и составляют лишь никчемную массовку. каждый день подбитый транспорт видим? видим. ополченцам смысла нет раскрывать свое кол-во. да и оружие у них уже не то. а именно такое, которое способно наказать и даже не побоюсь слова покарать. прорыв должен быть там где не ждут и когда не ждут. ответ будет достойным и в самое ближайшее время. И даже если допустить самый плохой расклад то через месяц-другой ярый народ выйдет и спросит у так называемой власти как он должен кормить своих детей. Американская туалетная бумага тут не поможет. евро тут не поможет. да и Россия не будет уже деньгами помогать.
ЛРН , ДНР и Юго-Восток объединяйтесь! Жечь логово фашистов!

В армию ДНР уже записались 27 тыс. добровольцев

[socrates7]

Посмотрел интервью Кличко Познеру, прочитал интервью Ахметова - бедная Украина, кто ее танцует, боже мой, страшно.

[Spike]

Quote: 573385

A couple of months ago, I put a box of "Caspian" for the fact that Putin will bend in front of the West. 40 billion candy wrappers in a Swiss bank were found at Putin's later. Naryshkin's statement is not even flowers, but buds. Donbass and Lugansk will face the fate of Transnistria, if not worse. When "there is" the rest of the "rainy day" hundred, Putin will personally run to overthrow the "separatists".

Вот и бот...

[tokin1959]

Южную Осетию поддержали - и не думали о санкциях.
А ЮВ Украины судя по событиям и последним заявлениям Лаврова - сливаем.
хотя бы словами поддержали и каждый день и в ООН и везде - прекратите АТО, выведите войска , прекратите убивать мирное население - тишина.
без помощи и современного оружия раздавят ополченцев.
Крым за месяц взяли, а тут люди уже полтора месяца держатся и сами в таких фронтовых условиях референдум провели.
а ведь если сдадим - года через 2-3 будет русофобское государство похлеще Польши , поток русских беженцев, кто еще убежать успеет, а остальных перережут.

[Aunt Sonya]

Ультиматум киевской хунте на вывод войск

[Semenov]

Не верю, что бригада ВДВ (или 10 000 военных)со штатным вооружением не может снести десяток блокпостов из покрышек и сотню ополченцев. Скорее всего, армия деморализована и готова повернуть оружие, а воюют Ярош, нацгвардейцы и правосеки. Они же и устанавливают свои блокпосты. Тональность высказываний украинец. политиков и ЕС резко снизилась в отношении РФ, на укросайтах тоже стали поджимать хвосты. Киевская хунта предчувствует свой конец?

[Cynic]

Quote: Semenov

Не верю, что бригада ВДВ (или 10 000 военных)со штатным вооружением не может снести десяток блокпостов из покрышек и сотню ополченцев.

Do they need it?
Да уже и было _ сносили , катались по городу .
И что потом происходило ?
Уезжали восвояси !!!
Назавтра можно было начинать всё с начала .
Разве так города под контроль берут ?
Одним словом _ Майданутые киевские руководители !

[shiplover100]

ЧЕСТНО ГОВОРЯ.... БРЕД... КАКОЙ-ТО... НУ, НЕУЖЕЛИ РЕБЯТА НЕ ПОНИМАЮТ, ЧТО БЕРЕЧЬСЯ НАДО??? КАК ОНИ ТАМ "РУЛЯТ"???

[Cynic]

Quote: shiplover100

, НЕУЖЕЛИ РЕБЯТА НЕ ПОНИМАЮТ, ЧТО БЕРЕЧЬСЯ НАДО??? КАК ОНИ ТАМ "РУЛЯТ"???

А для этого нужно не Лайф-Ньюс и 1-й Канал смотреть , а Рен-ТВ . Они что-то последнее время батон крошат на ДНР .
Недавно показали кортёж руководства ДНР , вполне , всё на уровне глав сверхдержав , по выражению диктора Рен-ТВ .