Ukrainian army continues to self-destruct

According to the "Russian Spring"On the morning of May 13, a self-propelled artillery unit belonging to a military unit of the Ukrainian Armed Forces deployed in this village council exploded near the village of Rovnoe in the Kherson region.

The explosion claimed the lives of two servicemen, two more were taken to the Genichesky District Hospital. One of the soldiers is in critical condition in intensive care with third-degree burns.

According to the suggestion of local residents, ammunition could explode inside the armored vehicles.

Thus, the list of absurd losses of the Ukrainian army was added. Earlier, the media have already reported on five burned tanks, the fall of a military aircraft, the explosion of a howitzer and the flooding of the Grad multiple launch rocket system.

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[rassel0889]

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

[ZU-23]

Quote: rassel0889

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

I agree. It is impossible for ignoramuses to trust such men's toys, as well as ancient toys, near which it’s even dangerous to walk, not to fight them.

[Little Muck]

Quote: ZU-23

It is impossible for ignoramuses to trust such men's toys, as well as ancient toys, near which it’s even dangerous to walk, not to fight them.

Everyone was engaged in systematic plundering, there was no time to educate and learn. So they get ridiculous losses.
The guys feel sorry for the purely human, but not like warriors with their own people.

[I do not care]

Lukashenko is asked:
- Alexander Grigoryevich, if you were put at the head of Ukraine, how quickly would you put things in order there?
- Yes, in two days!
- How come?
- Very simple! On the first day I would shoot the entire Verkhovna Rada!
- And in the second?
- And in the second I would shoot those who would come to their funeral.

[Corsair]

Quote: me by

Lukashenko is asked:
- Alexander Grigoryevich, if you were put at the head of Ukraine, how quickly would you put things in order there?

At A.G. EXPERIENCE, he "screwed up" his parliament and continues to "screw up" ...

[Estet59]

And rightly so. This head!

[Predator]

How Stalin-Cadres decide everything!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Estet59

And rightly so. This head!

And it is not in vain that the toast is popular in men's companies: "So that you want and you can."

[crow]

not in the eyebrow but in the eye ......

[svp67]

Quote: me by

Lukashenko is asked:

And you can't do without "ritual executions"?

[Corsair]

Quote: svp67

And you can't do without "ritual executions"?

When looking at territoryseems to be gone ...

[svp67]

Quote: Little Muck

Everyone was engaged in systematic plundering, there was no time to educate and learn. So they get ridiculous losses.

Here, most likely OLD or QUALITATIVE ammunition, apparently gunpowder in charges or explosives in ammunition began to decompose, and in this case sparks were enough ...

[Kievan]

What do you know about the war with "your own people". All that your TV feeds you is a false cynical lie.
What is the difference between the actions of citizens on the Maidan and the separatists:
1. On the Maidan, citizens appeared under the flag of their country and for its interests. Separatists of the South-East appear under the flag of an ALIEN country and for the sake of its interests. A small difference, but such a significant one.
2. First, on the Independence Square, they fought for the punishment of peaceful demonstrators and journalists guilty of criminal beating on November 30.11.2013, XNUMX, and after ignoring them, for the election of a new president by the people, who will represent the interests of the whole people, all regions of Ukraine, instead of a thief, usurper of power and a murderer. And the separatists are trying to disrupt the elections with the aim of the collapse of Ukraine and the further annexation of its territories by Russia (if you want federalization - just vote for Tsarev, Efremov or Tigipka, which is simpler, here they are elections, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED FEDERALIZATION, AND OCCUPATION OF UKRAINE).
3. The weapon of the Maidan was true, reporters were welcomed. WEAPONS OF SEPARATISTS - LIES about the mythical Bendera and fascists who allegedly made the coup and rule Ukraine, massively beat journalists, destroy the cameras. If their cause is “right” - why are they afraid of publicity?
4. On the Maidan, they protested, and with wooden shields, representatives of ALL regions of Ukraine perished under bullets. Maidans spontaneously organized in ALL REGIONS of Ukraine, in total, millions of people went out into the street, despite the fact that their cars were burned, they were abducted, tortured and killed (the whole nation rebelled). Putin’s saboteurs were able to organize only a few thousand separatists, and only in the Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions, despite the fact that if they do not use violence, no one would touch them.
5. Maidan for a long time protested exclusively peacefully and unarmed, avoiding violence. Only when they started beating them and they started shooting rubber bullets did Molotov cocktails go into action. The separatists initially come up with weapons, trying to provoke bloodshed to create a pretext for the further occupation of our homeland. Maydanov’s activists were abducted and killed both on the Maidan and during the separatist rallies in eastern Ukraine. Separatists in Kiev abducted, tortured and killed patriots, and continue to torture and kill in the eastern regions.
To summarize - the Maydanites are patriots of Ukraine, the separatists are accomplices of the Fascist invaders who hate Ukraine.

[Day 11]

E-Wash your brain! What about the cookies from Nuland? Do you still think that it’s all muddied up by yourself? Have you overthrown the villain-Yanukovych? Ugh !!!

[Baboon]

I saw both the Polish and German flags there, but this is not necessary to notice. Well, they were completely unarmed, there were no Molotov cocktails, the APC itself probably burned out? The soldiers of VV must have crippled themselves, and the golden eagles too?

[g1v2]

Well, let's answer on points.
1. They fly under the flag of another country in the east because you have made Ukraine a foreign country for them and people do not want to have anything in common with this country.
2. People came out for federalization while you didn’t start to burn them alive and shoot them and after that they don’t want to live with the killers together. Honest elections when the same Tsarev is beaten right at the television center, and the state guard is taken from him from the realm of fantasy.
3. About the fact that your media are lying to you, listen to what the representatives of the Communist Party of the Communist Party of Ukraine and the Party of Regions told in the parliament. Your deputies, but about the truth, well, at least remember how the deputies from freedom forced the head of the channel to leave the television station in front of the cameras. In addition, even Western journalists admit that you are lying. The last case, as your media said that no one came to the referenda, and in the streams people showed that already from 7 o’clock in the morning, thousands of people stood in lines to vote. Not TV channels, but people from Donetsk and Lugansk.
4-5.How did you peacefully protest on the Maidan the whole world has already admired the burning Berkut people and dozens of killed cops. These as you said saboteurs are already 2 million in the Crimea and 7 million in the DPR and LPR And this is still not the end. Calm yourself with thoughts that these aliens have arrived, but they all have Ukrainian passports that they showed to Western journalists. About nobody touched - see footage from Odessa.
6.All that your army has already said - out of 18 thousand, Ukrainian soldiers in Crimea 15 thousand joined the Russian army [DO NOT PLACE IN POWS, DO NOT GO IN THE PARTISANS, DO NOT LEAVE TO Ukraine, but transferred to our army]. Of your entire army, only 95 brigades agreed to shoot people, the rest sabotage the orders of the junta. Local cops are for the people. Alpha almost in full force refused to shoot people, only omega and jaguar agreed from the special units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. About the fact that 400 mercenaries from PMCs are fighting for you, even the Germans in Spiegel write. If you don’t want to listen to us, read at least the Western press.
And even if you still believe in fairy tales about the evil Sauron-Putin, you will lose the entire Southeast, so start clearing your brains already, otherwise even the Hungarians will drop in on you, you will also lose Transcarpathia.

[Kievan]

As for the war with their own people.
What is the difference between the actions of citizens on the Maidan and the separatists:
1. On the Maidan, citizens appeared under the flag of their country and for its interests. Separatists of the South-East appear under the flag of an ALIEN country and for the sake of its interests. A small difference, but such a significant one.
2. First, on the Independence Square, they fought for the punishment of peaceful demonstrators and journalists guilty of criminal beating on November 30.11.2013, XNUMX, and after ignoring them, for the election of a new president by the people, who will represent the interests of the whole people, all regions of Ukraine, instead of a thief, usurper of power and a murderer. And the separatists are trying to disrupt the elections with the aim of the collapse of Ukraine and the further annexation of its territories by Russia (if you want federalization - just vote for Tsarev, Efremov or Tigipka, which is simpler, here they are elections, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED FEDERALIZATION, AND OCCUPATION OF UKRAINE).
3. The weapon of the Maidan was true, reporters were welcomed. WEAPONS OF SEPARATISTS - LIES about the mythical Bendera and fascists who allegedly made the coup and rule Ukraine, massively beat journalists, destroy the cameras. If their cause is “right” - why are they afraid of publicity?
4. On the Maidan, they protested, and with wooden shields, representatives of ALL regions of Ukraine perished under bullets. Maidans spontaneously organized in ALL REGIONS of Ukraine, in total, millions of people went out into the street, despite the fact that their cars were burned, they were abducted, tortured and killed (the whole nation rebelled). Putin’s saboteurs were able to organize only a few thousand separatists, and only in the Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions, despite the fact that if they do not use violence, no one would touch them.
5. Maidan for a long time protested exclusively peacefully and unarmed, avoiding violence. Only when they started beating them and they started shooting rubber bullets did Molotov cocktails go into action. The separatists initially come up with weapons, trying to provoke bloodshed to create a pretext for the further occupation of our homeland. Maydanov’s activists were abducted and killed both on the Maidan and during the separatist rallies in eastern Ukraine. Separatists in Kiev abducted, tortured and killed patriots, and continue to torture and kill in the eastern regions.
To summarize - the Maydanites are patriots of Ukraine, the separatists are accomplices of the Fascist invaders who hate Ukraine.

[Corsair]

Quote: Kievite

On the Maidan, citizens performed under the flag of their country and for its interests.

I will not look for the flags of other states and unions, as well as the symbols of Nazi-radical groups in the ABUNDANCE available on the net and which will subsequently become evidence in the tribunal.
For sane people and this illustration MORE THAN ...

[Kievan]

So what is the "war with one's own people"?

[zanoza]

Quote: ZU-23

Do not ignoramuses to trust such men's toys ...

Event information is not complete.
Where and how did this happen? She stood in boxing, on a march, at a training ground, during training firing or during exercises with live shooting.
Who are the dead? Contractors, conscripts called up for training or "Right Sectors" NG, undergoing combat training before being sent to the "Eastern Front".
The last category will not have to be sorry, they themselves asked for war ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: zanoza

Event information is not complete.

But who will give it to you now. On the contrary, they try to hide the losses.

[zanoza]

Here you can look at the consequences of this event.
http://truba.com/video/402535/

[aleks 62]

Looked .... Smiled ... The day was not in vain ... :)))))

[Tankmaster]

it was an explosion on March 22 .... then the 2S19 "Msta" exploded, so do not sculpt a hunchback, look for what exploded on May 13.

[Kievan]

And the Russian media are not the media at all, but the FSB propaganda departments. They have a lie - the first and foremost weapon. Moreover, lying so brazenly! For example, they launched a misinformation about a helicopter shot down in Kramatorsk and slipped a video of a helicopter shot down 2 years ago in Syria.

[Day 11]

Are you coming from? -No burdocks are sitting here too and this lie has surfaced instantly. But the other 4 --- without options, have gone wrong. We can discuss anything and any lie will emerge instantly

[Corsair]

Quote: zanoza

Event information is not complete.

Look for details on the net, the benefit of information "shaft". And about "sorry, not sorry", even in the CIVIL WAR, reasoning is not appropriate.
Either you are with weapons or not ...
And the Nazis, by the way, do not spare children or women ...

[qwert]

Judging by the photo, they were on the march inside Hetzer.

[inkass_98]

Quote: qwert

were on the march inside Hetzer

I look too - Hetzer, only the forehead with the gun forward went after the explosion.
I’ll venture to suggest that after the opposing side launched the T-34 and installed it, the Ukrainian army tried to do the same with the German gimp hidden in the caches, but it didn’t work out ...
But the fools of the dead and wounded are still a pity.

[Iniipet]

this is shtug-4 100%

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Iniipet

This stuff-4

But if the pieces are 4, then one piece can be blown up.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: Iniipet

shtug-4

Like 6 rinks on board. Then it's Stug III.

[avt]

Quote: zanoza

Who are the victims? Contractors, conscripts, called up for training or "pravosek" NG, undergoing combat training before being sent to the "Eastern Front".

Rather, the regular ones that were thrown near Kherson back in the days of Crimea, by the way, was the second self-propelled gun that pulled there. Old ammunition, not trained to master the equipment, which also seems not in the best condition, even staffing will not save from trouble It’s almost the same as in the video where black smoked chimpanzees gave Kalash in Africa, and she’ll start and shoot! And here - in the current state of the Ukrainian army and the transfer of weapons to the banderlogs, it is still surprising that there are so few cases of undermining, there’s nothing to say about broken equipment.

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: inkass_98

I look too - Hetzer, only the forehead with the gun forward went after the explosion.

I, too, was taken aback a little by looking at the photo - German self-propelled gun! but then I looked at the video, there is clearly MSTA 152 mm. pulled.
one can see the Soviet equipment does not want to fight with the people who created it, and, like a true warrior, it self-destructs.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

one can see the Soviet equipment does not want to fight with the people who created it, and, like a true warrior, it self-destructs.

Yes, not-e! Nothing lasts forever on earth, everything has a definite time limit with Higher! Both a person and a technician die when they reach old age (or illness). Amen!

[Kievan]

Russia started a war in Ukraine with the help of its mishandled saboteurs, financing separatism and spreading lies

[Ptah]

Quote: Kievite

Russia started a war in Ukraine with the help of its mishandled saboteurs, financing separatism and spreading lies

That's right, patient. You just do not worry. Sit quietly on the Ebro-Maidan, inhale the burnt tire from burnt tires and remember with nostalgia how drunk in the winter.
Dohtur in a camouflage robe will come up to you soon.

[Kievan]

And the facts are simple:
1. Russia grossly amended the norms of international law, using military force, annexed part of the territory of the sovereign state of Ukraine.
2. Russia has done this treacherously violating international obligations to respect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, which it gave when it viciously deceived Ukraine’s nuclear weapons. The moronic excuses that supposedly in Ukraine had changed the government will make the whole international community laugh. Obligations are given to the country, not the government, and are given on an ongoing basis, and not for a couple of years.
3. All attempts by Russia to justify its actions - UNLAWFUL, INDEPENDENTLY OF THEIR CONTENT - NOBODY GIVEN RIGHTS EVEN SIMPLY TO INTERFERE IN THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF UKRAINE, NOT SPEAKING ON MILITARY AGGRESSION AND SEIZE ITS TERRITORY. THIS IS THE BIGGEST VIOLATION OF ALL INTERNATIONAL LAWS, A FACT OF MILITARY AGGRESSION - BY THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS OF CRIME, NOT HAVING A LINE OF PRESENTATION.
4. IN addition, ALL ARGUMENTATION BY RUSSIA OF MILITARY AGGRESSION IS NAGLOUS, VIN, CINEMAL LIES:
4.1. There were no oppressions of Russian speakers in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, not a single Russian was injured, no one forbids them to speak Russian, 500 RUSSIAN SCHOOLS AND ONLY 5 UKRAINIANS (which, by the way, they are trying to close now) are open for the whole Crimea. And on the contrary, there is full of facts of frenzied oppression in Crimea of ​​all non-Russian. Russia has long been financing the development of pro-Russian neo-Nazi organizations in Crimea, cultivating hatred of everything Ukrainian - the capture of the Crimea was planned long and carefully (the elder brother Cain had a knife in his sleeve for a long time, rather than using it spontaneously).
4.2. An attempt to justify their criminal actions allegedly by the fact that fascists came to power in Ukraine, some kind of junta, is false for two reasons:
a) In Ukraine, the main body of power belongs to the parliament, as provided for by the Constitution. And this parliament is legitimate and legally elected back in 2012. Nothing has changed here. The only change is that after the shooting of more than a hundred unarmed demonstrators, Yanukovych washed off, although no one drove him, he could stay and try to fix what he had done. Naturally, the parliament appointed acting President, it is legal and there is no alternative to this, and appointed ELECTIONS. If the president died, became seriously ill, ran away, and does not fulfill his duties, then they will appoint the acting President, AND ELECTIONS WHAT IS UNDERSTANDED? WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ELECTION? The junta and the usurpers of power do not call elections; their goals are opposite. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER POWER - JUST VOTE FOR TIGIPKA, DOBKIN, TSAREVA, why use violence and shed blood.
b) Russia does not have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of a sovereign state because it does not like who came to power. Even if the "fascists", but - there are no Fascists in Ukraine. Even the "Right Sector" and "Svoboda", which have ONLY 3% of the support of the population and DO NOT HAVE REAL POWER, are campaigning for a FRIENDLY attitude towards national minorities that do not harm Ukraine (GO TO THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITES AND DO NOT READ FALSE FORGES) All other parties, incl. having a majority in parliament, generally do not care who wanted what nationality. Key positions in the government are held by proteges of Yulia Tymoshenko's Batkivshchyna party. Why did they suddenly become "fascists"? UNDER THE POWER IN GENERAL, THE MAJORITY IS NON-UKRAINIANS.
IN RUSSIA EVERY YEAR NEONAZIS KILL ABOUT 20 "FOREIGNERS", and in Ukraine the last time ONE person was killed 5 YEARS AGO, and that was because of a quarrel on ethnic grounds and not just because he was not Ukrainian.

[Baboon]

The facts are simple, they just took and seized power, one I.O. appoints other I.O., Something is somehow illegitimate. Rada took and voted that now the new Constitution has been adopted (the whole world can learn how to adopt the Constitution). The fact that there are dissent in the Rada, so nafig they are needed, to drive those who disagree, you don't need to listen to anyone. In Kiev, Biden sits at the head of the table, and we do not notice the "government". The fact that someone disagrees with the Kiev authorities and people are being killed is generally not necessary to notice, and in general, who will tell the Kievite here? Scoop from the East of the country? or a collective farmer from the West who disagrees? I talked with the people of Kiev, this is noticeable.

[avt]

Quote: Kievite

2. Russia has done this treacherously violating international obligations to respect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, which it gave when it viciously deceived Ukraine’s nuclear weapons. The moronic excuses that supposedly in Ukraine had changed the government will make the whole international community laugh. Obligations are given to the country, not the government, and are given on an ongoing basis, and not for a couple of years.

Dear velikoukr, well, taking into account the European association and the vegetable garden in the center of Kiev - dill. Russia really did not respect the territorial integrity, and itself, for centuries created a misunderstanding, which the Austro-Hungarians called "Ukraine" and during the times of the "quietest" Romanov, when they created Little Russia from the hetmanate, and during the time of Lenin, whose monuments with such enthusiasm began to be destroyed in last year, when the Donetsk Republic was annexed by a strong-willed decision on a federal basis with bilingualism, and when a bald clown drunkenly presented Crimea, contrary to all legal norms to which you are now appealing. After 1991, they generally sponsored your efforts to create an ancient, new, hitherto unseen people - Great Ukrov, giving loans to pay for consumed gas, which, moreover, was simply stolen. Well, that's it - now you can cry, it's time to pay for everything on promissory notes .... and I want the broker, Uncle Izya, to exchange your corner for two easier "So if you have no mind in Kiev there to understand that after 08.08.08 Russia is somewhat different - these are your problems and they will not be ours.

[avt]

So blame yourself for your troubles, although this is unlikely, here even the kobzar Shevchenko is not a decree for you, Pushkin is for the Russians, this is our everything. Shevchenko was not very Svidomo for you either, well, he did not know such a people - velikokry and that's why called them differently ------ ,, "Xoxol will remain xoxl
Though you let him in Europe
Where to act with the mind,
He only annoys f * ck.

And that is why in Russia
Bequeathed as much by Monomakh:
"Contact God forbid!
With three - a Jew, a Khokhl and a Pig. "

Cunningly w .. d, although blind;
Puffy Lyakh - worse than f ** k and, xoxol
but he will eat bread with you,
And then shit in your soup "(c).

"" T.G. Shevchenko 1851

[Ptah]

Do not scare him, otherwise he will fluff his tail and will now start throwing himself at everyone. For this he will receive a jBAN ...
Boring without him ...

[STALGRAD76]

This is a foreign policy, my friend, and in it the facts that are happening today will have consequences in the future, and if the actions of the leadership of a country are capable of this, then they are smart people. And the cosmopolitan can only fulfill someone's will if they are smashed, no matter how they puffed up in their "7" they are just an instrument ...
Ukraine almost does not exist as a country anymore, the former leadership has lost its minds all p.o.e.b.a.l.o., that's a fact. The culprits are your own junta, at the moment they are pirating everything they can from the country, and the stupid and stubborn chants of "glory to Ukraine" will disappear after a while, later when historians will put everything in its place.
You will not deny that the wars in Iraq, Lebanon, Serbia, Syria are an artificially created confrontation, and now in Ukraine, then you are guilty, the recognition of this fact will give you the path to peace and prosperity.
Although to whom I have been writing for twenty minutes, the "Kievite" is an ordinary harek running around the sites and throwing such texts ...

[120352]

But the men driven into the war, not wanting to kill innocent people, could themselves explode their self-propelled guns. Yes, that's just not saved.
In any case, humanly sorry for them.

[Ural guys]

Everything is much simpler. The Ukrainian armed forces planned to carry out provocative actions by shelling the former Ukrainian territory, now belonging to the Russian Federation, namely the territory of Crimea. According to them, several explosions on the territory of Russia should provoke retaliatory actions, however, the simple mismanagement of the Ukrainian military prevented the implementation of the plan, the self-propelled gun barrel was not properly implemented and cleaned, as a result of a shell explosion at the time of its shot. According to news agencies, according to eyewitnesses, only caterpillars remained at the scene from the self-propelled guns.

It can be seen indeed that the highest sacred forces are guarding Russia!
No wonder Napoleon warned, do not go to Russia, you will find your death there!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Ural guys

Everything is much simpler. The Ukrainian armed forces planned to carry out provocative actions by shelling the former Ukrainian territory, now belonging to the Russian Federation, namely the territory of Crimea. According to them, several explosions on the territory of Russia should provoke retaliatory actions, however, the simple mismanagement of the Ukrainian military prevented the implementation of the plan, the self-propelled gun barrel was not properly implemented and cleaned, as a result of a shell explosion at the time of its shot. According to news agencies, according to eyewitnesses, only caterpillars remained at the scene from the self-propelled guns.

Are these your speculations? I think that if they started shelling the territory of Crimea, then the state of self-propelled guns in the end was the same.

[tux]

Quote: Ural guys

According to news agencies, according to eyewitnesses, only caterpillars remained at the scene from the self-propelled guns.

If it were so, then there would be no one to deliver to the hospital.

[tux]

Quote: Ural guys

According to news agencies, according to eyewitnesses, only caterpillars remained at the scene from the self-propelled guns.

If it were so, then there would be no one to deliver to the hospital.

[iConst]

Quote: Ural guys

however, the implementation of the plan was hindered by the simple mismanagement of the Ukrainian military, the self-propelled gun barrel was not properly implemented and cleaned, as a result of which a shell exploded at the time of its shot. According to news agencies, according to eyewitnesses, only caterpillars remained at the scene from the self-propelled guns.

I am not an artilleryman, but since childhood I have been very fond of armored vehicles.

Doubts take that ammunition could detonate from a shell rupture in the barrel. The castle is closed and hardly anything leaks through the breech.
Let real experts say a word.

I have repeatedly seen footage of the Chechen campaign, how, during the "work" of the ACS, the crew constantly dragged and fed shells. it turns out that there was no stock of ammunition in the wheelhouse during the shooting, but it was located at some distance.

I know the facts that in Arab and African conflicts there have been cases of detonation of ammunition in tanks due to a protracted shot. The reason is very old ammunition or inadequate storage.

Again, failure to follow instructions. As far as I know, in case of a "misfire" it is necessary to wait a certain amount of time before opening the bolt.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: iConst

As far as I know, in case of a "misfire" it is necessary to wait a certain amount of time before opening the bolt.

This golden rule is not only for self-propelled guns.

[52]

Yes, not only self-propelled guns, I myself am fond of hunting and know what a "shot" shot. And I equip cartridges according to old, smart books.

[Kievan]

"Innocent" people are traitors of the Motherland paid for by the northern brothers and sisters, who are not satisfied with their land

[Ptah]

Quote: Kievite

paid by northern underbrothersи

Well, on that we thank that at least we are no longer "enemies". But it's too early to flatter yourself - with your advanced illness, enemas are prescribed and oxygen pillow ... GAS no one will serve you.
And in order not to injure your subtle spiritual nature, I would advise you to look "over the fence".
We had infa that the landing had already flown to Kiiv. Should have arrived already ...
Just watch carefully, there may be many ...

[Kievan]

So you show your mean rotten essence.
Just yesterday, they called themselves brothers, vilely deceiving Ukraine from nuclear weapons, as Cain had a knife in store behind him. Yes, Ukraine is much smaller, poorer and weaker than Russia and did not expect from you a vile betrayal. And you are just brave enough to fight the weak - Georgia, Moldova (Transnistria), Ukraine, and you consider this an achievement. Schnicks you. The Ukrainian people will not be forgotten by your meanness through centuries. Russians have no honor. Thanks to Pukin, Ukraine and Russia are enemies forever.

[Day 11]

And you can ask, WHY are you weak? The largest country in Europe (there was) .46 million population. Are the Russians again guilty? Yeah, Yanukovych, Is it because Yushch’s wife from the office doesn’t bother you? They divorced you like suckers, they hit you in the head idiotic values ​​--- again we are to blame

[Ptah]

Quote: Kievite

Ukraine is much smaller, poorer and weaker than Russia and did not expect from you a vile betrayal.

In principle, after the division of the Union, the Ukrainians broke off one of the best pieces of the Russian Empire. What an enviable industry went to her. From the Antonov aircraft plant and four nuclear power plants to the Crimean wineries. And also 25% of the world's black soil, the best agriculture of the USSR, coal, oil, metals, a powerful military-industrial complex, 1400 (!) Kilometers of the Black Sea coast, ports, roads, resorts, universities, research institutes, 50 millions of active and educated people.

Ukraine has historically been the most inhabited and developed part of the empire. As stated in the famous film, "and the forge, and the granary, and the health resort." For a thousand years, all possible and impossible invaders rolled on its tidbits: Mongol-Tatars, Turks, Poles, Lithuanians, Prussians, French, Austrians, even the Swedish king climbed to fight in Poltava (where Sweden, and where - Poltava).

In short, when, on 23 a year ago, Ukrainians broke off the best part of the USSR (including the donated Crimea), all the peoples of the former empire thought with black envy: “Here it’s lousy stuff, so lucky!”

And now, attention: the annual GDP of the current (last year) Ukraine per capita is 3860 dollars. For comparison: the poor of Albania - 4000 dollars. Neighboring poor Poland and Russia overtake Ukraine by GDP almost FOUR TIMES - 13 300 and 15 000 dollars, respectively. Latvians dying and scattering from their land have 14 900 dollars per capita. And now the most annoying thing for Ukrainians: Belarusians neighbors (whom Ukrainians consider sheriff and svidomye to be “stupid scoops”) - 7400. Twice as much. What a bummer!
And the quilted jackets are to blame ... Well, there’s nobody else.
Themselves settled down, and now you yell - "It's not us, they threw shit in our trousers, or forced us to shit" ...

[Kievan]

As for the "innocent" people, not only are they traitors to the Motherland, trying to destroy Ukraine under the flag of a foreign country, but also:
In Donbass, militants burned Euromaidan activist alive
http://www.rupor.info/news-obshhestvo/2014/05/08/na-donbasse-boeviki-sozhgli-zaz
hivo-aktivista-evro /
Abduction of Deputy Rybak
http://postskriptum.org/2014/04/22/rybak/
How they killed deputy Rybak
http://glavnoe.ua/news/n174205
https://news.pn/ru/public/102746
Donetsk separatists tortured dissenters on conveyor
http://www.rupor.info/news-obshhestvo/2014/05/08/pytki-nesoglasnyh-postavleny-do
neckimi-separatista /
In Konstantinovka terrorists shot a priest
http://gordonua.com/news/separatism/V-Kramatorske-terroristy-zastrelili-svyashch
ennika-21866.html
Terrorists shot a family at a checkpoint near Lugansk
http://gordonua.com/news/separatism/Terroristy-rasstrelyali-semyu-na-blokpostu-p
od-Luganskom-21839.html
In Luhansk oblast, four guys were shot for shouting "Glory to Ukraine"
http://obozrevatel.com/crime/08325-na-luganschine-chetyireh-parnej-rasstrelyali-
za-vyikriki-slava-ukraine.htm
In Kramatorsk, terrorists beat a woman who drove cigarettes to the Ukrainian military
http://obozrevatel.com/politics/65710-v-kramatorske-terroristyi-izbili-zhenschin
u-kotoraya-vezla-sigaretyi-ukrainskim-militaryim.htm

[Ptah]

Quote: Kievite

In Luhansk oblast, four guys were shot for shouting "Glory to Ukraine"

They were grounded not for shouts, but for arrogance and narcissism.
The diagnosis is "narcissism". Treatment consisted of taking a lead pill in utero. Overdose, medical error ...

It should be a shame for such shouts. It's like yelling "Glory to myself!"
Disrespectful to others. It would be much more correct if other peoples were shouting "Glory to Ukraine!" Yes, there is nothing to praise you for.
Forgive us - ignoramuses. You are great, but we are just huge.
Therefore, from my own observations -
"While the huge" dries "-" the great will already die. "
Amen ... See you after your next reincarnation ...

[Kievan]

What kind of non-humans you are. Real fascists. You justify the murder of people for the greetings you dislike. According to your logic, you also have to kill for the greeting "glory to Russia". But these Russians are characterized by a perverted narcissism, a desire to stick a national background into any ordinary event, a desire to present Russians above others. Take at least the boxing match between Klitschko and Povetkin, or a fresh example - I watched a Russian TV show about the 1st round of Eurovision. It's sickening to see so much self-glorification and exaltation of Russia there. And this is the case everywhere in your country. And the truth is very simple - all peoples are equal. There are no better or worse nations.

[Ptah]

Quote: Kievite

According to your logic, you should also kill for the greeting "glory to Russia".

Please accept my obeisances for a good command of the RUSSIAN language. I am sure you will catch the difference between "Long live Russia" and "Glory to Russia!"

Quote: Kievite

And the truth is very simple - all nations are equal. There are no nations better or worse.

But in this, are we arguing?
But Yarosh, Tyagni-side-by-side and many others believe that Ukrainians are "smoother".
Too lazy to look for videos where they confirm this in every way. Yes, you know more than me.

[Day 11]

Believe me, NOBODY from Russians supports cruelty. I’ll tell you more, EVERYTHING is worried about you! But the OUN will be destroyed! Otherwise, the price is worthless to us. Let our grandfathers sleep peacefully

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Kievite

As for the "innocent" people, not only are they traitors to the Motherland, trying to destroy Ukraine under the flag of a foreign country, but also:
In Donbass, militants burned Euromaidan activist alive

Yes, calm down already.

[from punk]

Quote: rassel0889

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

yes sorry for the soldier. is it just that you can’t hear the commanders punished? they should be responsible

[Ruswolf]

from punk
yes sorry for the soldier. is it just that you can’t hear the commanders punished? they should be responsible

On Russia (FSB) and national terrorists write off

[222222]

punk (1) RU Today, 11: 28 ↑
"Yes, it's a pity for the soldier. Just don't you hear the commanders being punished?" .. this is the tragedy of the situation and the country as a whole ..
..
Igor Panarin: "Total losses in Donbass for May 2-13, 2014" ... see ..
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=460350674111824&id=10000410686
5632

[xenod55]

As always, privates are paying the price for the STUPIDITY and INSANITY of the authorities (acting president and commander-in-chief, nicknamed "BAPTIST" Turchinov).

[xenod55]

And here's more about the Ukrainian army:
“The media reported on the use of at least three white-painted helicopters with UN symbols and insignia during a special operation near Kramatorsk. According to available information, these are three combat Mi-24s and one transport Mi-8. Video recording with one of the Mi-24s. XNUMX was posted on the video hosting site YouTube. "
What can you think reading this. Either the "bosses" have a very bad head and memory - they do not know, they have forgotten where and how, according to the UN Charter, this symbolism can (cannot) be used. Either things are absolutely bad with the availability of technology that can fly, move independently, since they spit on the UN charter.

[Sterlya]

Quote: rassel0889

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

And who asked them to sit there? If they themselves hadn’t exploded, they might have shot at their people. there is no mind, so there is nothing to walk a pawn in the wrong hands. or maybe it was Natsik, so those are not at all sorry. only the grave will correct them.

[maks-101]

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

To escape from such an army is necessary without looking back.

[Siberian German]

if they were soldiers, then they are sorry, but if the geeks of PySy, then they need to go there

[Kievan]

You geek. What do you know about the right sector. I am not their supporter, but they are true patriots of Ukraine (even though sometimes headless). Hanging them the label of fascism is one of Putin's meannesses. They are parriots, but they have nothing against non-Ukrainians and propagate a FRIENDLY attitude towards them if they treat Ukraine well. In reality, the right-wing sector has NO power in Ukraine. In power - the parliament elected back in 2012 and the government appointed by that parliament - is the majority of non-Ukrainians and they do not care what nationality you are. Pukin hanging the label of fascism of the Ukrainian authorities FOOD AND CINEMA LIES.

[Stump]

close your mouth, you will scratch the furniture) to the heroes of fat)

[Geisenberg]

Quote: rassel0889

The soldier is sorry (ridiculous death, it is not clear why! The kingdom of heaven to them!

Keep it up. I hope pravoseki just get killed on a stub ...

[fzr1000]

In addition to the German self-propelled guns from the time of 2 MV, no photos were found? Tonight near Slavyansk several ukroboxes were still burned. Losses on both sides.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: fzr1000

In addition to the German self-propelled guns from the time of 2 MV, no photos were found? Tonight near Slavyansk several ukroboxes were still burned. Losses on both sides.

Also drew attention - a strange photo ....

[Veter]

Quote: fzr1000

In addition to the German self-propelled guns from the time of 2 MV, no photos were found?

It's sarcasm

[Bombardier]

MOSCOW, May 14 - RIA Novosti. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is working on the issue of transferring settlements to rubles for certain types of export goods, taking into account the risks that exporters and foreign buyers of Russian goods may face, the head of the ministry Anton Siluanov said.
“We are ready even tomorrow (to switch to ruble payments - ed.), But the question is in contacts, because there are contracts that provide for the possibility of payment in rubles, but this is not used,” he told reporters.
Siluanov explained that the transition to payment in rubles may promise certain costs for exporters and for buyers of domestic export products.
"Because they will need to buy rubles, and the ruble is now a little volatile, and plus pay a commission later when exchanging currency for rubles, so they can" run into "certain costs. Therefore, there are certain risks, but we are preparing, working on the mechanism," - said the minister.
Many trading partners are already using the ruble in trade with Russia: in particular, Chinese, some European, and, until recently, Ukrainian.


RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140514/1007701002.html#ixzz31fieKFZb

[KOH]

That even I do not like this Siluanov, as well as Yakunin ...

[Flex]

don't like not yesh

[222222]

Bombardier SU Today, 11:08 AM
"MOSCOW, May 14 - RIA Novosti. The Russian Ministry of Finance is working on the issue ..."

"Russia begins to euthanize the United States" ????
http://www.imperiya.by/news.html?id=135122

"On May 20, Vladimir Putin will pay an official visit to the People's Republic of China at the invitation of the President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping.
During the upcoming talks between the leaders in Shanghai, it is planned to discuss a set of issues on the bilateral agenda. A number of important documents in the trade, economic, energy and humanitarian spheres are being prepared for signing during the visit. "" Http://www.kremlin.ru/news/21015

[strannik595]

MOSCOW, May 14 - RIA Novosti. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is working on the issue of transferring settlements to rubles for certain types of export goods, taking into account the risks that exporters and foreign buyers of Russian goods may face, the head of the ministry Anton Siluanov said.
“We are ready even tomorrow (to switch to ruble payments - ed.), But the question is in contacts, because there are contracts that provide for the possibility of payment in rubles, but this is not used,” he told reporters.
Siluanov explained that the transition to payment in rubles may promise certain costs for exporters and for buyers of domestic export products.
"Because they will need to buy rubles, and the ruble is now a little volatile, and plus pay a commission later when exchanging currency for rubles, so they can" run into "certain costs. Therefore, there are certain risks, but we are preparing, working on the mechanism," - said the minister.
Many trading partners are already using the ruble in trade with Russia: in particular, Chinese, some European, and, until recently, Ukrainian.

........... comment is not the topic, here the boys died, who were far from the Donbass

not far from the village of Rivne in the Kherson region a self-propelled artillery bomb exploded

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Bombardier

"Because they will need to buy rubles, and the ruble is now a little volatile, and plus pay a commission later when exchanging currency for rubles, so they can" run into "certain costs. Therefore, there are certain risks, but we are preparing, working on the mechanism," - said the minister.

This is in Russian! To "catch up" the moonshine, sell, and drink the money!

[Nikolav]

Beat your own so that others are afraid!)))

[Cherdak]

Quote: Nicholas

Beat your own so that others are afraid!)))

No, they adopt the experience of NATO:

“The NATO sailors in Ventspils behaved like a pig, ignored the laws of Latvia and self-government rules. After getting drunk, they relieved themselves in public places and in shop windows, vomited, publicly drank alcohol, which is not allowed. They also picked flowers from flower beds to give them to prostitutes, "Mayor Lembergs said.

Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/accidents/1801426.html#ixzz31fi8DOR2

[andj61]

Ventspils is economically completely dependent on the port, the port on Russian transit. In Ventspils, everyone, even Latvians, do not want to have any problems with Russia, it is beneficial for them to have good relations with us.

[KOH]

With amers, I see without any problems ...

[Ribatsek]

And what they want - they are kept for the Indians.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Ribatsek

And what they want - they are kept for the Indians.

So what are they keeping for? For the Indians or for the eggs?

[Olegovi4]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Indians or for eggs

already apparently for the rolls ...

[sso-xnumx]

Ayayayayayay! And hto did this ????? Are enlightened sailors really? Nooo! Can not be! Cultured people live in Europe; they cannot behave this way.
ABOUT! I know. These are probably Russian sailors! They captured the NATO ship, tied up the whole team, changed into their uniforms and went ashore to avenge us on the victory of the United States in World War II!

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: Cherdak

“The NATO sailors in Ventspils behaved like a pig, ignored the laws of Latvia and self-government rules. After getting drunk, they relieved themselves in public places and in shop windows, vomited, publicly drank alcohol, which is not allowed. They also picked flowers from flower beds to give them to prostitutes, "Mayor Lembergs said.

You can answer Mr. Mayor - you yourself wanted such defenders. take it, use it.

[Vladimirets]

A very accurate photo for the article reflects the essence, only the previous "aliens" have more and more self-propelled guns of ours.

[WKS]

It is strange that they have not yet been attributed to "Russian saboteurs."

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: wks

It is strange that they have not yet been attributed to "Russian saboteurs."

Wait, another Psaki will speak about this .....

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: wks

It is strange that they have not yet been attributed to "Russian saboteurs."

Duc, where can we recruit all the Russian saboteurs? And so they have already got out for the "state".

[sinukvl]

And what else can you expect from an army that, for almost a quarter of a century, has deliberately collapsed to please the United States, and also plundered to please its beloved.

[JoylyRoger]

What else to expect from such an army?

[Apollo]

quote-According to the “Russian Spring”, in the morning of 13 on May, near the village of Rovnoye in the Kherson region, a self-propelled artillery unit belonging to the military unit of the Ukrainian Armed Forces deployed in this village council exploded.

The helicopter takes the wounded.


The cause of the explosion is a short circuit in the wiring of self-propelled guns

[Papakiko]

Quote: Apollon

The cause of the explosion is a short circuit in the wiring of self-propelled guns

ETOGES what a nuisance in e-chains of self-propelled guns that already ammunition is excited.
I consider this incident purely as a visual execution for doubters who oppose combat operations and do not want to be executioners of the people.
And I won’t be surprised that this execution was carried out by an individual under the nickname AKIM

[Kievan]

What is the difference between the actions of citizens on the Maidan and the separatists:
1. On the Maidan, citizens appeared under the flag of their country and for its interests. Separatists of the South-East appear under the flag of an ALIEN country and for the sake of its interests. A small difference, but such a significant one.
2. First, on the Independence Square, they fought for the punishment of peaceful demonstrators and journalists guilty of criminal beating on November 30.11.2013, XNUMX, and after ignoring them, for the election of a new president by the people, who will represent the interests of the whole people, all regions of Ukraine, instead of a thief, usurper of power and a murderer. And the separatists are trying to disrupt the elections with the aim of the collapse of Ukraine and the further annexation of its territories by Russia (if you want federalization - just vote for Tsarev, Efremov or Tigipka, which is simpler, here they are elections, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED FEDERALIZATION, AND OCCUPATION OF UKRAINE).
3. The weapon of the Maidan was true, reporters were welcomed. WEAPONS OF SEPARATISTS - LIES about the mythical Bendera and fascists who allegedly made the coup and rule Ukraine, massively beat journalists, destroy the cameras. If their cause is “right” - why are they afraid of publicity?
4. On the Maidan, they protested, and with wooden shields, representatives of ALL regions of Ukraine perished under bullets. Maidans spontaneously organized in ALL REGIONS of Ukraine, in total, millions of people went out into the street, despite the fact that their cars were burned, they were abducted, tortured and killed (the whole nation rebelled). Putin’s saboteurs were able to organize only a few thousand separatists, and only in the Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions, despite the fact that if they do not use violence, no one would touch them.
5. Maidan for a long time protested exclusively peacefully and unarmed, avoiding violence. Only when they started beating them and they started shooting rubber bullets did Molotov cocktails go into action. The separatists initially come up with weapons, trying to provoke bloodshed to create a pretext for the further occupation of our homeland. Maydanov’s activists were abducted and killed both on the Maidan and during the separatist rallies in eastern Ukraine. Separatists in Kiev abducted, tortured and killed patriots, and continue to torture and kill in the eastern regions.
To summarize - the Maydanites are patriots of Ukraine, the separatists are accomplices of the Fascist invaders who hate Ukraine.

[Roshchin]

Our wiring closest in the world

[Corsair]

Quote: Grove

Our wiring closest in the world

Near Stalingrad, in the steppes, the wiring in fascist TANKS and self-propelled guns was nibbled Soviet mice - saboteurs...

[Roman1970]

Yes, this is not a matter of the army, but most likely the negligent attitude of the commander of this combat vehicle to the performance of his duties ...

[Negative]

invincible and legendary in battles ........ etc.-in quotation marks. and sorry for the soldiers

[Kievan]

And what, in the rashist army there are no accidents. Do soldiers die? But much more. So there is nothing to be malicious.

[Peter Timofeev]

Independence has destroyed the army and continues to destroy Ukraine.

[vch62388]

Well, it was not the Grad MLRS that was drowned, but the TZM for the Hurricane. These are gentlemen journalists, having heard the word "MLRS" as usual, they got it wrong. This was written in great detail on the same site in hot pursuit.

[JonnyT]

Personally, I do not know how to relate to this kind of news ... on the one hand, "this is how the damned fascist punishers should," and on the other hand, these are soldiers - ordinary people who have families that are bound by orders and regulations ... I doubt that the crew of this installation are right-sided, mercenaries or national guardsmen

[HAM]

And they will write about the soldiers that they deserted, neither families need to pay to bury .. The kingdom of heaven boys, for whom did they die?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: HAM

And they will write about the soldiers that they deserted, neither families need to pay to bury .. The kingdom of heaven boys, for whom did they die?

Yes ...
More than one Ukrainian family will be notified that their son has "betrayed" the junta ...

[Kievan]

Where did you see the junta. In Ukraine, the main body of power belongs to the parliament, as provided for by the Constitution. This parliament is legitimate and legally elected back in 2012.
What has changed in Ukraine:
a) After the execution of hundreds of unarmed demonstrators in parliament, almost all turned away from Yanukovych. Many members left the party of regions, as a result a new majority was formed, and the regionals were in opposition. FORMING A NEW MOST IN THE PARLIAMENT - A NATURAL AND LEGAL PROCESS IN ANY DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.
b) Yanukovych washed off, although no one persecuted him, he could stay and try to correct what he had done. Naturally, the parliament appointed President and appointed ELECTION. This is legal and there is no other way. If the president died, became seriously ill, ran away, and does not fulfill his duties, then they will appoint the acting president, AND ELECTIONS. WHAT'S NOT CLEAR? WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ELECTION? THE JUNT AND THE OWNERS OF AUTHORITIES DO NOT APPOINT THE ELECTIONS, THEIR PURPOSE TO SEE AUTHORITY. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER AUTHORITY - THERE ARE THE ELECTION - JUST VOTE FOR TYPES, DOBKIN, TSAREV.
But the truth is different - those traitors to the motherland who deceitfully shout about the junta and the mythical coup actually seek to commit an armed anti-Ukrainian coup in the interests of the enemy state - Russia, which committed a treacherous military intervention against Ukraine.

[Corsair]

Quote: Kievite

Where did you see the junta.

That is what I see you are entering the network under Thor...

What are you afraid of?

[blackberry]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: Kievite

Where did you see the junta.

That is what I see you are entering the network under Thor...

What are you afraid of?

counterintelligence is not asleep.

[Kievan]

FASCISM
http://www.dazzle.ru/antifascism/fascism.shtml (определение из Большой Советской энциклопедии).
Signs of fascism (in their totality):
1. Racial justification for the superiority and exclusivity of one dominant nation proclaimed by virtue of this;
2. Intolerance and discrimination towards other “alien”, “hostile” nations and national minorities;
3. Denial of democracy and human rights;
4. The imposition of a regime based on the principles of totalitarian-corporate statehood, one-party system and leaderism;
5. The assertion of violence and terror in order to suppress a political adversary and any form of dissent;
6. The militarization of society, the creation of paramilitary groups and the justification of war as a means of solving interstate problems.
Fascism leads to the complete denial of human rights and freedoms; it carries a potential and real threat to the peace and security of mankind.

[hrapon]

Yes Yes. Tilki plus sala trohi and a full set.

[Corsair]

Quote: Kievite

6. The militarization of society, the creation of paramilitary groups and the justification of war as a means of solving interstate problems.

Without "touching" the rest of the points of your commentary (this is a long time ..., although there is something to say about them), I note that "paragraph 6" as amended "for solving domestic problems" TOTALLY fits your wording ...

[mig31]

Absurdity in everything, a feeling that Ukraine is a big bedlam ....

[maximus235]

Unfortunately it is. bedlam not only in the streets but also in the minds of most people.

[asar]

The equipment has not been serviced for a long time, plus the soldiers scored from anywhere! Here is the result!

[volot-voin]

All this would happen in some other country, or there would have been no casualties. I would have laughed ..
How much more blood must be shed to stop this madness in Ukraine? Young boys perish, they would create families, raise children. Not that all this junta, all these Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, Yatsennyuki, Turchinovs, Tymoshenko, Yaroshi and Tyagniboki will evade responsibility?

[Kievan]

Where did you see the junta. In Ukraine, the main body of power belongs to the parliament, as provided for by the Constitution. This parliament is legitimate and legally elected back in 2012.
What has changed in Ukraine:
a) After the execution of hundreds of unarmed demonstrators in parliament, almost all turned away from Yanukovych. Many members left the party of regions, as a result a new majority was formed, and the regionals were in opposition. FORMING A NEW MOST IN THE PARLIAMENT - A NATURAL AND LEGAL PROCESS IN ANY DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.
b) Yanukovych washed off, although no one persecuted him, he could stay and try to correct what he had done. Naturally, the parliament appointed President and appointed ELECTION. This is legal and there is no other way. If the president died, became seriously ill, ran away, and does not fulfill his duties, then they will appoint the acting president, AND ELECTIONS. WHAT'S NOT CLEAR? WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ELECTION? THE JUNT AND THE OWNERS OF AUTHORITIES DO NOT APPOINT THE ELECTIONS, THEIR PURPOSE TO SEE AUTHORITY. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER AUTHORITY - THERE ARE THE ELECTION - JUST VOTE FOR TYPES, DOBKIN, TSAREV.
But the truth is different - those traitors to the motherland who deceitfully shout about the junta and the mythical coup actually seek to commit an armed anti-Ukrainian coup in the interests of the enemy state - Russia, which committed a treacherous military intervention against Ukraine.

[serega.fedotov]

The absurd losses of technology. And how many are now stealing military property, it's scary to imagine!

[sabakina]

Well, I’ll be surprised if soon in each settlement there will be its own self-defense gang like "Pan Ataman Gritian Tavrichesky" ...

[I read the news]

Quote: sabakina

each settlement will have its own self-defense gang

already

[pensioner]

And the worst thing about this is that such cases will continue. Soldiers, of course it is a pity, but what if the explosion occurred somewhere near civilian objects? And, God forbid, next to the objects of hanged danger, of which in Ukraine a tuyeva hucha ?? The Ukrainian army by itself, by the fact of its existence, poses a great danger to the population of Ukraine and to itself. It's time to understand this dill.

[Giant thought]

Yes, the guys are sorry, apparently conscripts, poor training. They may declare them deserters.

[alper]

If these were real military personnel, not bandits, then it is a pity for the dead people.
Although the Ukrainian commanders could be put to the installation of inexperienced guys, for example, mobilized.
Military weapons require a serious attitude and do not forgive mistakes, it is not for nothing that they say that the charter is written in blood.

[TurboSloN]

Old equipment + untrained, unskilled crew + lack of elementary discipline in the troops + violation of TB = accident with a group fatal outcome.

[Hort]

somehow the stormtrooper does not quite fit in the photo and the news. Or were the soldiers on it?

[skylare]

Far from the first and hardly the last. The soldier is sorry, technology - figs with her, human life - that’s the main thing.

[Orc-xnumx]

Ammunition is probably from the time of the Union. Shelf life has expired! It is not clear what the German self-propelled gun of the war does in the photo.

[rasputin17]

What kind of soldiers are there and the army, what can I say more !? MATCHES FOR CHILDREN NOT A TOY !!!!

[krpmlws]

Yes, he just thinks: will enter or not enter.

[Day 11]

Uh, what a normal site they turned into! Anyone is being dragged here. FAKE is --- FAKE !!! Do you find the original yourself?

[Grach710]

Another month of such a war, and the great Ukrainian army will have armored car Yarosh from armor and drones from aircraft model circles from aviation. But seriously, this is a very low level of knowledge of materiel, this army should not be allowed to come close to complex equipment. Matches for children are not a toy.

[x.andvlad]

These are the direct consequences of a long-term disregard for the armed forces. Everything is taken away and drunk. And amateurs perform amateurish anti-terrorist operations with huge casualties on both sides. There are no miracles.

[Silkway0026]

the country is a PARODY, in all respects! especially with regard to the attitude of the people towards their oppressors ... "... and bring the rope yourself, or will they give it out? ..."

[gandalf]

Guys - sorry. Not their fault in the collapse of the army.

But, sometimes, the thought comes to mind: "It's so good that there are no nuclear missiles in Ukraine" ...

[russmensch]

Strange information, very strange and incomprehensible. Self-propelled guns exploded. She stood right there, stood, and then once and exploded. And where was the calculation and what was it doing? Why did two die and two survived? The explosion of one shell inside the self-propelled guns leaves no chance for anyone to survive if the crew is inside. very strange...

[Orc-xnumx]

Nothing strange! The commander and gunner in the car, and two loaders deliver shells from the ground! Learn the materiel!

[Russian jacket]

Slumping, Putin is again to blame ....

[VD chauvinist]

The beetroot trunk was shut up. Quiet and very polite.

[Ruswolf]

Russian jacket
Slumping, Putin is again to blame ...

What did you think ?!
Why is Putin silent? Yes, because he is not in Moscow, he created his underground in Ukraine and nightmares Banderlog!
And Chubais cuts the wiring, he is an expert in such matters. The hand of a professional is felt!

[annodomene]

Sorry for the fighters ... But in general, it's like giving a fool two steel balls in an airtight room. So he will break one, and lose the other. The "relic" is incredible ...

[X Y Z]

The mice gnawed through the wiring, as in the Polish F-16s and she reacted accordingly ...

[Roman 1977]

15 000 Ukrainians in 160 tanks, 230 armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and BMDs, with 150 guns, MLRS and mortars, 20 helicopters and several combat-ready aircraft cannot defeat a Russian handful in 1000 people who have:
6 BMD, more precisely BMD-1, BMD-2, 3 BTR-D and 2S9 "Nona-S";
1 BTR-70 and several more demilitarized and privately sold BTR and BRDM;
1 T-34-85 (without shells from the pedestal);
such 76-mm ZIS-3;
several anti-tank systems and MANPADS from the Crimea;
armament of the gutted downed Mi-24 helicopter;

one and a half dozen RPGs of various types;
some small arms are represented by ineffective pistols from the buildings of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as hunting smooth-bore guns.

+ hero of photo shoots Maxim machine gun from the museum.

It’s simply amazing that Ukrainians have a conscience to write such articles

http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0
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The best illustration of the state of the Ukrainian "army"

Loading onto a car of a disassembled MiG-29 fighter (tail number "34 blue") from the former 204th tactical aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force for export from Crimea. Belbek, May 2014 (c) "Krila Ukraini"

[Kievan]

The reason why, as you rightly pointed out, how to defeat the RUSSIAN handful is very simple - Russian saboteurs and the paid or deceived traitors of the Motherland helping them, using Nazi tactics, shoot Ukrainian soldiers from behind the backs of the civilian population, as they did in Crimea. Civilians are intimidated by organizing fascist terror. People are abducted, tortured and killed just because they are patriots of Ukraine, for the Ukrainian flag.
In Donbass, militants burned Euromaidan activist alive
http://www.rupor.info/news-obshhestvo/2014/05/08/na-donbasse-boeviki-sozhgli-zaz
hivo-aktivista-evro /
Abduction of Deputy Rybak
http://postskriptum.org/2014/04/22/rybak/
How they killed deputy Rybak
http://glavnoe.ua/news/n174205
https://news.pn/ru/public/102746
Donetsk separatists tortured dissenters on conveyor
http://www.rupor.info/news-obshhestvo/2014/05/08/pytki-nesoglasnyh-postavleny-do
neckimi-separatista /
In Konstantinovka terrorists shot a priest
http://gordonua.com/news/separatism/V-Kramatorske-terroristy-zastrelili-svyashch
ennika-21866.html
Terrorists shot a family at a checkpoint near Lugansk
http://gordonua.com/news/separatism/Terroristy-rasstrelyali-semyu-na-blokpostu-p
od-Luganskom-21839.html
In Luhansk oblast, four guys were shot for shouting "Glory to Ukraine"
http://obozrevatel.com/crime/08325-na-luganschine-chetyireh-parnej-rasstrelyali-
za-vyikriki-slava-ukraine.htm
In Kramatorsk, terrorists beat a woman who drove cigarettes to the Ukrainian military
http://obozrevatel.com/politics/65710-v-kramatorske-terroristyi-izbili-zhenschin
u-kotoraya-vezla-sigaretyi-ukrainskim-militaryim.htm

[Roman 1977]

Yeah, I remember a joke with a beard:
To date, the results of the Ukrainian-Russian war are disappointing.
Losses of Ukraine - 7 tanks, 1 self-propelled howitzer, 10 armored vehicles and 1 aircraft.
Almost 2 million people were captured. ...
... The Russian army has not yet come to war ...
Now, bother to show evidence of the participation of Russian military personnel in the conflict in southeastern Ukraine, not Ukrainian media propaganda, designed for home use. And we will look at them.
Before you yelled: "Mo.s.k.a.l.e. to knives", "M.os.s.k.a.l. ya.k. to gilyaku", "Who does not jump that m.s.k.a.l.l ", and now they remembered the brotherhood and plaintively bleated about the" atrocities "of the separatists, but in fact ordinary Ukrainian men who are killing your armed punishers.

As YOUR poetess said: "We will never be brothers ..."

[Kievan]

RUSSIA - Diversions and espionage:
Are Donetsk terrorists the Russian military from St. Petersburg? VIDEO
http://novosti.dn.ua/details/222568/
The SBU identified the leader of the Russian sabotage group in eastern Ukraine - a citizen of the Russian Federation, an officer of the special forces of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Igor Strelkov.
http://conflict.rbc.ua/rus/sbu-ustanovila-lichnost-glavarya-rossiyskoy-diversion
noy-15042014121900
http://conflict.rbc.ua/rus/sbu-obnarodovala-peregovory-rossiyskih-diversionnyh-g
rupp - 14042014162500
Photo information about the rosiyski groups, like in the Ukrainian cities
http://www.radiosvoboda.org/media/photogallery/25359341.html
SBU neutralized a group of saboteurs led by a Russian in the Zaporizhzhya region
http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/accidents/sbu-obezvredila-v-zaporozhskoy-oblasti-grup
pu-diversantov-07052014103200
SBU caught a Russian intelligence officer hurrying to help militant separatists
http://crime.in.ua/news/20140407/shpion
In Ukraine, set a record for the detention of spies
http://vesti.ua/strana/46567-v-ukraine-ustanovili-rekord-po-zaderzhaniju-shpiono
v
SBU detained a saboteur who planned to seize strategic facilities
http://glavnoe.ua/news/n172511
SBU at the state border in the Chernihiv region detained a Russian saboteur
http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/accidents/sbu-na-gosgranitse-v-chernigovskoy-oblasti-
zaderzhala-rossiyskogo-11042014081100
SBU detained saboteurs in the Kherson region
http://news.online.ua/640758/sbu-zaderzhala-diversantov-v-hersonskoy-oblasti/
SBU detained an activist recruited by intelligence of the Russian Federation for attempts to organize riots in Kharkov
http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/politics/sbu-zaderzhala-zaverbovannogo-razvedkoy-rf-a
ktivista-za-12042014153800
In Slavyansk, Donetsk region, a "polite person" from Crimea appeared
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/808680-V-Slavyanske-Doneckoi-oblasti-zasvetilsya-
vejlivii-chelovek-iz-krima
17.04.13/XNUMX/XNUMX SBU continues to detain saboteurs in the South-East of Ukraine
http://www.ostro.org/general/society/news/442844/
SBU of the head separatist Krimu
http://zaxid.net/home/showSingleNews.do?sbu_spiymala_golovnogo_separatista_krimu
& objectId = 1307271
In Ukraine, Russian spies were detained who were preparing a blow to Dnepropetrovsk. Worked under the guise of journalists
http://donetskie.com/novosti/2014/04/25/v-ukraine-zaderzhany-rossiyskie-shpiony-
kotorye-gotovili-udar-po-dnepropetrovsku-rabotali-pod-vidom-zhurnalistov
How they killed deputy Rybak
http://glavnoe.ua/news/n174205

[Kievan]

RUSISHE TOURIST:
Donetsk is terrorized by the same Russian “tourists” that committed atrocities in Latvia 5 years ago
http://obkom.net.ua/news/2014-03-15/1019.shtml
http://tsn.ua/politika/kremlivski-neonacisti-konsultuyut-separatistiv-v-ukrayini
-dlya-rozshirennya-imperiyi-344515.html
Arrested pseudo-governor Gubarev turned out to be a seasoned Russian Nazi
http://crime.in.ua/news/20140308/gubarev-nacyst
Donetsk separatists advised from Moscow - video fact
http://obozrevatel.com/politics/90635-donetskih-separatistov-konsultiruyut-iz-mo
skvyi-videofact.htm
The separatist, who in Donetsk demanded that Yanukovych be returned, turned out to be a member of the Limonov party
http://kriminal.tv/news/separatist-kotorij-v-donetske-treboval-vernut-janukovich
a-okazalsja-chlenom-partii-limonova.html
SBU detained the Russian woman suspected of shooting near the Nikolaev RSA
http://conflict.rbc.ua/rus/sbu-zaderzhala-rossiyanku-podozrevaemogo-v-strelbe-uv
ozle-09042014121300
Sumska’s prikaronnniki rosіyanina with agitational leaflets
http://regionews.sumy.ua/node/29940
The cords fenced in to three Russians, who straightened them to Ukraine with the aim of destabilizing the situation
http://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_3835.htm
Russian saboteurs from the Donbass found in social networks
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/811212-Rossijskih-diversantov-iz-Donbassa-nashli-
v-socsetjah

[g1v2]

My friend and your glorious SBUs, all FSBs have already been transplanted along the way, but not one division has been killed, but for some reason both the FSB and the grunts are neighing wildly from this information. Well, catch a couple of thousand more tomorrow. That's just bad luck what you catch, catch, and 3 regions are already bye-bye. Maybe, after all, it’s not necessary to search for mythical spies, but to talk with your people, because after all another 6 regions will float away while you are chasing spies. And according to previous comments, I answered you at the beginning.

[Stump]

Yes, few poor people are killing you) for licking priests to the west you need to quarter you, ub * people!

Yes, and your nickname is not proper, change it to "I am a Crimean woman, the granddaughter of an officer", eared nigga)

[hrapon]

Robot or what?

[x.andvlad]

Quote: russmensch

Strange information, very strange and incomprehensible. Self-propelled guns exploded. She stood right there, stood, and then once and exploded. And where was the calculation and what was it doing? Why did two die and two survived? The explosion of one shell inside the self-propelled guns leaves no chance for anyone to survive if the crew is inside. very strange...

Such emergency situations often begin with a violation of safety rules when handling powder charges, for example. As a result of the ignition of gunpowders, those nearby in the fighting compartment receive severe burns and injuries. Someone sometimes manages to jump out to undermine the entire ammunition.
Most likely, this is an illustration of low discipline and lack of professionalism l / s.

[zzzzzz]

The media had previously reported five burned tanks, a military aircraft crash, a howitzer explosion and flooding of the Grad multiple launch rocket system. And how many incidents did the media not report?

[Day 11]

Guys, Babai saw everything?

[Vital 33]

And about the recently blown up military warehouses in Russia (May 2), why is no one joking? And does not give an assessment of the Russian army? Why are there no articles with headlines like "THE RUSSIAN ARMY IN THE WAR WITH UKRAINE CAUSES LOSSES" or "THE ARMY IS DANGEROUS FOR ITSELF NOT SPEAKING ABOUT OTHERS" well, or even in the same spirit ... There are so many witty humorists here ... it is certainly invisible to the eye, I understand. Let's remember about submarines burned down during repairs, crashes of fighters, etc ... What's not funny anymore ???
The memory of the dead, the earth rest in peace. Both in Russia and in Ukraine ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Vital 33

why is no one joking? And does not give an assessment of the Russian army?

Probably because our warehouses and aircraft with boats do not fight against the inhabitants of their country.

The children came to wet their eastern fellow citizens from afar - what the stripes on the goat non-transparently hint at - and got what they deserved. Yes, their death does not cause me joy, but the same regrets.

It’s time to clearly separate ours from non-ours, or let's pity everyone — killer bandits, a hundred ....

[Vital 33]

Actually, this SPG did not fight with the "inhabitants of its own country" either, or rather, its crew did not fight. Read where it happened. And here are the "oriental citizens"? It happened in the Kherson region, where they stand on the border with Crimea. And by the way, in order to exclude stupid versions, I inform you: the electrical wiring caught fire, and as a result, a fire started in the car. That's all. The deplorable result of a long indifference to the army, and total underfunding. The technique is old, so emergency situations occur. There is no desire, but I could easily surf the Internet and dig up HUNDREDS of similar stories in the Russian army during the times of underfunding. So what? Write an article on how the army humiliated itself in "hard times"? Yes, you don't even have to go very far, take the accidents over the past few years, and it will be above the roof. Well, let's cheer, it's fun ...
Just let's objectively, in both directions ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Vital 33

Actually, this SPG did not fight with the "inhabitants of its own country" either, or rather, its crew did not fight.

OK - I agree - they did not have time to shoot, the Crimea separated faster than they reached it. I apologize - I did not know that in Ukraine self-propelled guns are assigned to each village council.
Accidents occur in all the armies of the world - (the Yankees over there, set fire to the boats themselves), and if they are recruited within a few years - there’s enough for a little war.
Write an article with hundred detonated self-propelled guns in the army of the Russian Federation - read. Let’s curiosity in all directions. If she will not be - you balabol.

[Kievan]

Think better with your head. And what did your troops do in Chechnya? It was there that they massively destroyed the people with the help of hail systems, heavy artillery, forbidden by international conventions of ball ammunition, chemical weapons and napalm. People (including women and children) were destroyed by entire villages. And there is plenty of evidence for this (at least take a look at YouTube). But Chechnya is a different, non-Russian people who were on their land, had no other land and had the right to self-determination.
And in the east of Ukraine, the vast majority of Ukrainians and up to 30% of Russians. Who of the Russians does not like something - Russia is large and uninhabited. They have a place to go. This is not their original land, but Ukraine.
Those who are involved in separatism are ordinary criminals and traitors to the Motherland. THERE IS NOTHING TO CALL THEM A PEOPLE. They staged a real terror against the patriotic population, killing people for the Ukrainian flag, for the words "glory to Ukraine". Nobody delegated power to them. uchka bandits proclaimed themselves.

[Day 11]

Why are you pissing us off like that? -IP is changing. Nobody will rot you here. On the contrary, we are interested in your opinion. I just think that only your children will understand all this. And you come on, the grass-you got it into your brain

[kotyara]

Recently burnt down warehouses were burned up as a result of a forest fire, people died, I agree there are flaws, but firefighters are powerless against a forest fire in a strong wind! Fire can spread across tens of meters. It is under the fire alienation zone that you need dozens or even hundreds of hectares to exclude a fire hardly anyone will allow it!

[Vital 33]

You probably do not know, but there are certain requirements, and rules for such situations. The safety strip should be cut down and beveled, and on the territory itself. Fire safety, fire brigades, fire fighting equipment, etc. If all this was not, then this is the same sloppiness, underfunding (and maybe theft of money), and do not care. BUT THE RESULT IS ONE RESULT !!! There’s a tank or self-propelled guns, and there’s a warehouse, or a submarine ...

[KOSMOS]

Yes, sorry for the army! Now, if the Nazi guards would go to the forefathers, then another thing!

[mackonya]

Safety precautions or what?

[Ural guys]

http://warfiles.ru/show-56304-poyman-glavnyy-karatel-hunty-narod-trebuet-povesit
-ubiycu-mirnyh-zhiteley.html - Caught the junta's chief punisher. The people demand to hang the killer of civilians.
No need to execute, otherwise they will declare in inhumanity. There is another need. As if I wanted to make an escape (fix on the camera), when I ran away, a random bullet hit between the ribs right in the heart. Then everything is legal.

[Kievan]

Where did you see the junta. In Ukraine, the main body of power belongs to the parliament, as provided for by the Constitution. This parliament is legitimate and legally elected back in 2012.
What has changed in Ukraine:
a) After the execution of hundreds of unarmed demonstrators in parliament, almost all turned away from Yanukovych. Many members left the party of regions, as a result a new majority was formed, and the regionals were in opposition. FORMING A NEW MOST IN THE PARLIAMENT - A NATURAL AND LEGAL PROCESS IN ANY DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.
b) Yanukovych washed off, although no one persecuted him, he could stay and try to correct what he had done. Naturally, the parliament appointed President and appointed ELECTION. This is legal and there is no other way. If the president died, became seriously ill, ran away, and does not fulfill his duties, then they will appoint the acting president, AND ELECTIONS. WHAT'S NOT CLEAR? WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ELECTION? THE JUNT AND THE OWNERS OF AUTHORITIES DO NOT APPOINT THE ELECTIONS, THEIR PURPOSE TO SEE AUTHORITY. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER AUTHORITY - THERE ARE THE ELECTION - JUST VOTE FOR TYPES, DOBKIN, TSAREV.
But the truth is different - those traitors to the motherland who deceitfully shout about the junta and the mythical coup actually seek to commit an armed anti-Ukrainian coup in the interests of the enemy state - Russia, which committed a treacherous military intervention against Ukraine.

[Kars]

Quote: Kievite

Where did you see the junta

Junta, junta The parliament was captured in February by a self-defense paluby and right-wing militants.

Quote: Kievite

After the execution of hundreds of unarmed demonstrators in parliament

Rastrel was organized by an opasia, the main defendants Pashinsky and Palyubiy. The massacre began exactly as much time as it would take for the stolen weapons from the SBU from Lviv to be transported by light vehicles to Kiev.

Quote: Kievite

b) Yanukovych washed off, although no one drove him

Yes of course.

[Day 11]

B-la Kars, have you really been driven into this for 20 years? Okay, you won’t spend it on cookies, but YOUTH?

[Kars]

Quote: Den 11

B-la Kars, have you really been driven into this for 20 years? Okay, you won’t spend it on cookies, but YOUTH?

Something I did not catch up
that drove
what cookies

[Day 11]

All you understand --- FALSE values ​​is what I wanted to say

[Kars]

Quote: Den 11

You understand everything --- FALSE values

what are the false values? you’re doing something wrong. I call things by their proper names and nothing more. Yanyk Vor. in Kiev byutosvoltovskaya junta. Maidown is swallowed by the USA. The main part of the people under the slogans of the panda get played played in the dark. Russia also oiled. comes to choose a lesser evil.

[Corsair]

Quote: Kars

. Maidown is paid by the USA.

"Omitting" other factors you have listed, I want to ask: Do you also want to join NATO, with "irresistible persistence"?

[jovanni]

Mothers of Ukraine! Keep your children away from dangerous toys! We do not gloat, we are also sorry for your sons.

[Evgtan]

- To Ukraine or Ukraine - what's the difference?
- Do you remember how they said in 1945: to Berlin or to Berlin?
That's it ..

[andrey903]

To detonate a projectile you have to try because it is not cocked

[siberalt]

If the self-propelled guns with ammunition, then who were you going to shoot at? In the Donbass or the Crimea? One gun less - good! Soldiers died - bad! And how to evaluate everything together? There is no united Ukraine as a state, and no one is satisfied with a requiem for it. The world turned upside down, damn it!

[capex1]

The Kiev Judas, who betrayed their people, use it for the complete self-destruction of the entire Ukrainian people, both physical (the people themselves and young soldiers are dying) and moral (the upbringing of nationalism and hatred of dissidents). One way out is to take out the entire Kiev junta on a pitchfork and burn it.

[Leshka]

sorry for the boys just died

[na76]

Quote: qwert

Judging by the photo, they were on the march inside Hetzer.

At the Hetz, the trunk is shifted stronger by one side, in the photo it looks like Yaga 4th

[Arkan]

Ukrainian army continues to self-destruct

Safety rules are written in Blood. After the Crimean events, when the ammunition depots of the "Nezalezhnaya", with "delay" from the times of the USSR, came to us, it is not surprising that the tragedies are repeated. Well, the "training" of the Urkain warriors is enough only for civilians.