US intelligence agencies "kill people" with metadata

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"RT in Russian" reports that a Georgetown University professor David Cole spoke on the ABC News channel, telling about the debate at Johns Hopkins University with the participation of the former head of the American special services Michael Heiden, during which the latter admitted that the US government is collecting data on citizens' calls.

“At a debate at Johns Hopkins University, my opponent, General Michael Hayden, said:“ We kill people using metadata, ”said the professor.

According to Cole, metadata (to whom, when, how often they called, and how long the conversation lasted) pose a serious danger to ordinary citizens. They create “a clear picture of the most personal interests and circle of a person’s acquaintance, in reality it is much easier to study the metadata of millions of calls than to process their content” He noted that with the metadata of calls, there is no need for the content of the conversations themselves.

It is worth noting that in the summer of 2013, information appeared about a secret court order that allowed the National Security Agency to collect data on the calls of millions of subscribers of a major American telecommunications company Verizon.

In addition, there were reports in the media about another large-scale program of the US government called PRISM, in which it monitors Internet users across the globe.

In April, 2014, the head of US National Intelligence, James Klapper, said that the US intelligence agencies should not have concealed the existence of a program to collect data on telephone conversations from the very beginning.

“If we immediately told US citizens and lawmakers about the existence of this program and explained to them why it was created and how it works, now we would have no problems,” he said. “It was necessary to explain that this program is also needed for the common good - just like the need to come to the airport two hours before departure and take off the shoes at the control.”
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  1. +6
    14 May 2014 10: 12
    Shiz at the mattresses, getting stronger ......
    1. +5
      14 May 2014 10: 15
      To kill for the good of the people is purely American!
      1. +6
        14 May 2014 10: 46
        If for the people ... For the capitalists and stock speculators-Rockefellers, Soros and others like them. For the good of the people, much can be ...
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    3. Turik
      +2
      14 May 2014 10: 17
      The post is somewhat off topic, but ....

      I have a feeling that Russia has been betrayed again.

      @ # Th! Why didn’t they introduce peacekeepers to Donbass and Lugansk, where is the adequate reaction of the government and personally the GDP to the executions of civilians?
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      2. +4
        14 May 2014 10: 41
        And why introduce, this is not a board game. Serious arguments are needed for input, and, most importantly, the desire of the inhabitants of the regions themselves. But they have little desire, out of several millions, a pitiful few thousands are fighting. Everything has its time, everything will be, not with this power, perhaps, but it will be.
        1. +2
          14 May 2014 11: 06
          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          Serious arguments are needed for input, and, most importantly, the desire of the inhabitants of the regions themselves.

          The arguments are already full, how many more people should die to have enough of them? In Crimea, no one was killed at all, and glory to God successfully joined him. In the meantime, there is some kind of dirty trade with the West, where Russian lives are a bargaining chip.
          People expressed their desire in a referendum. If necessary, one more referendum can be held on joining the Russian Federation, and no world community can do anything.
          Delay can only be justified by the accession of all Ukraine. Who knows what games Putin leads. Lately, I'm not surprised at anything.
          1. +1
            14 May 2014 20: 35
            they (donbas, etc.) want to stay at home and Russia will fight for them, our children and grandchildren will die there and after another year they will say you are occupiers. do you want it with the collapse of the union, Russia was the worst sucker in Russia, and at that everyone and Donbass and Lugansk, let them really start to fight, but that’s all. the entire population is combat-ready, and a hundred is different.
      3. +3
        14 May 2014 10: 50
        Haste is only good for catching fleas. There are volunteers, money, weapons, food. It's easy to say "enter", "destroy", "shoot", but do you know what it is like to hand over at least one funeral to a soldier's relatives, not even from hand to hand, but just write a letter?
        1. Turik
          +1
          14 May 2014 11: 18
          Clearly, like "die as you see fit, Russia did not ask you much."
          We have a cheerful country.

          As for a few thousand - do you think they have enough weapons to arm more? All cities are blocked, fields are shot through. Where, then, is the real help from Russia - weapons, special. units?

          Special forces were created. operations about 2 years ago, even on TV so cheerfully reported: "will be used abroad to destabilize the situation there, etc., etc.".

          Now where are these forces the mother of their operations? They are not in Ukraine, it is clear that Ukrainian regulars are shooting militias, and with impunity.

          They cannot stop armored vehicles - the militia has no heavy weapons, ten RPGs in the republic do not count.

          An extreme option: recognize the DPR as an independent state and establish a dip. relations with all gadgets.

          And then it turns out this alignment: they stole the Crimea, and on the other Russian nasr @ $ t?
          This is the territorial capture of the stub of a neighboring country.
          This is not help to the brothers Slavs, help is when to the end.

          SO and in no other way will it look from the side.

          And about the provocations: will you wait until the Nazis from the city begin to work in the cities? Self-propelled guns and mortars were already.
          1. +2
            14 May 2014 13: 02
            Where are these forces? Yes, they probably sit on sites and get hysterical with or without. If all this bothers you so much, the lack of reaction, the introduction of troops, the recognition of the republics, then before you get hysterical, you must first find out the reasons for such a reaction, and then throw charges of Russia's betrayal of the South-East
          2. 0
            14 May 2014 13: 22
            Do not hysteria. Who said that special forces do not have weapons? All the way. I looked at your previous comments - surprised - everywhere calls to bomb, send special forces, shoot ...
            Turik RU August 29, 2013 07:46 | A military clash between Russia and the United States becomes inevitable

            Why the hell are we scratching eggs? America will be ready to bomb Syria into democracy the other day!
            Here you need to yell at the top of your lungs!
            Return a couple of ships from Venezuela, throw a couple of planes there and no bandits will risk the war to start.

            Take it easy. All the way. No need to rekindle. [Media = http: //vk.com/video2168804_153811332? Hd = 2 & t = 2m19s]
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            2. Turik
              -1
              14 May 2014 14: 58
              Special forces have weapons, only they are sitting in their homeland.
              The DNR troops have one machine for 5 goals.

              You recently posted something about Berdanks and "maxims" of the militia.

              1.About ships - they were nevertheless returned in due time (submarines), as it is known, the bombing was not partly therefore. The fact of presence itself is important, even if they shoot only at the barrels.

              2. If there is no normal reaction on our part (at least dip. Relations), then the result is predictable - the cities of the DPR are actually surrounded and food supplies at the bases will last 3-4 weeks. Cheat then? fellow

              Correctly! Kiev proudly declares that the Russian invaders staged another famine in Ukraine and howl to the UN.

              3. Then the elections, etc. etc.

              4. In a year or two, everything else will resolve, people will get tired of it, the most active ones will be captured and shot. The rest will be asked back to the non-fallow.

              5. Now fun: no one will lift the sanctions from us, no one will recognize Crimea. Georgia will then be guaranteed to become a member of NATO, Ukraine - in line. Air defense -shifted east, the tanks will push closer.
          3. +2
            14 May 2014 15: 44
            Don't be hysterical. You don't need a lot of mind to get into war. And if the "specialists" do not fall under the cameras, this does not mean that they are not there.
            And if you do war hotstsa, then the backpack on your back and forth ... Volunteer ...
          4. 0
            14 May 2014 16: 04
            Turik, you are a paneker. This is the first. And the second, the Crimea wasn’t stolen from your garage for an hour? You degenerate more adequately and earned a minus from me
            1. Turik
              +1
              14 May 2014 21: 03
              Happiness is not a minus!
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      4. +1
        14 May 2014 20: 38
        Where to enter? To a sovereign country? De jure and Donbass and LPR is part of the outskirts. That's when the government of these republics is formed, when they ask in writing about the introduction of troops, then it will be possible to consider the issue.
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    5. 0
      14 May 2014 17: 52
      I note a dangerous schiz, the patient is violent and prone to unmotivated aggression.
  2. +3
    14 May 2014 10: 13
    eh, pindocs .... I’ve not eaten up - you’ll not get enough. The train is bye bye ... The curve crept down.
  3. +3
    14 May 2014 10: 15
    Of course, if you immediately explain that your conversations are being listened to and your text messages are read with your wife, then it becomes easier and you want to install cameras in the apartment so that your favorite government watches
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 10: 46
      Quote: punk
      Of course, if you immediately explain that your conversations are being listened to and your text messages are read with your wife, then it becomes easier and you want to install cameras in the apartment so that your favorite government watches

      If the mind is very small, then for some reason they are in a hurry to share it (s)
      So they live.
  4. +6
    14 May 2014 10: 15
    as they say - do not play the fool, America, who is threatening you? .......... your former Minister of Defense and the CIAshushnik said well:
    US security is threatened by only two square miles on which the Capitol and the White House are located ...

    from an interview with CBS American television channel former director of the CIA and US Secretary of Defense Robert Michael Gates
    From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
  5. +2
    14 May 2014 10: 17
    For a long time it was necessary to remove this Amer GPS from our territory ... It was clearly not clean there.
    1. dik-fort
      +3
      14 May 2014 10: 33
      In the closed nuclear cities of the Russian Federation, the American security system was provided in the form of US assistance, and as you know, free cheese .... Kiriyenko greetings from the NSA, if only our experts were smart enough to clean the servers and equipment from "bugs".
  6. +4
    14 May 2014 10: 17
    "Do not mess with the Russians. They will answer any of your tricks with unpredictable stupidity." What prevents us from flooding the facebook, skype, etc. false messages calling for jihad in the United States, the overthrow of power in the United States, the preparation of terrorist attacks, the killing of their politicians, etc. etc. They are embarrassed to process and verify all this. And if we use accurate data, for example, about flights in the USA itself, then we will also complicate the work of transport for them and load hundreds of their agents with useless work.
  7. +1
    14 May 2014 10: 17
    It was necessary to explain that this program is also needed for the common good.


    Well, how will the liberals justify their masters now?
  8. +1
    14 May 2014 10: 19
    Perverts !!
  9. +1
    14 May 2014 10: 21
    "... the need to arrive at the airport two hours before departure and take off your shoes at the checkpoint." - Well, wow, democracy, but if I do not want to take off my shoes for various reasons, they will ask me "democratically" to leave the airport.
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 10: 51
      Of course. And where you live - we have the same rules.
  10. +1
    14 May 2014 10: 23
    There are almost 100% of the staff on the head in the US leadership, and this, unfortunately, is not treated. What else can happen in these heads only the devil knows.
  11. +1
    14 May 2014 10: 25
    Nothing more to do, so they collect all x nude
  12. +2
    14 May 2014 10: 25
    It was necessary to explain that this program is also needed for the common good.


    Oh disingenuous demon striped !!!! With good intentions the road to HELL is strewn !!!!! In other matters, any G.NO can be poked into the empty heads of the American people. But hamburgers stick to them there !!!!!
  13. arch_kate3
    +3
    14 May 2014 10: 37
    I repeat the information:
    UN Resolution
    On December 20, 2010, the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution proposed by Russia, which urges member countries to fight against the glorification of fascism. The USA is the only major power that voted against the resolution, which 129 countries supported and adopted (the vote against is explained by the constitutional right to freedom of speech - US diplomats are not allowed to sign resolutions that are contrary to the US Constitution).
  14. +2
    14 May 2014 10: 37
    They love this thing, to look into the keyhole through the toilet!
  15. 0
    14 May 2014 11: 00
    data collection - the work of intelligence and counterintelligence. for this they are created.

    the power is - mind is not necessary (US foreign policy)
    knowledge is power (who will challenge)
    conclusion:
    there is knowledge - there is no need for the mind (it is logical, although it sounds silly ... just like many American laws).

    who thinks what?
    1. EsTaF
      +1
      14 May 2014 11: 41
      The whole idea is that the society be manageable. And for this, any person must be predictable to manage society.
      I think it’s not necessary to follow the person here. It is enough to arrange a certain order. Values ​​and so on. Tracking is just an auxiliary tool, like gps / glonass instead of map and compass. But this is not the edge of the corner in any way.

      It is possible that this is a distracted blow, in general. Work on the media. Like, that's where the hydra is. Now we will kill all these bugs and everything will become tip-top.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 12: 22
        to control society - it is possible to control the majority, but there will always be individuals (wrestlers with the regime, system, anarchists, monarchists, terrorists and just a muy) who cannot be controlled (by standard methods) as long as they move freely and freely communicate with their own kind. you can close or bury them, but it's a chore. You can create pocket gangster, terrorist groups and consolidate and recycle these activists there. this is now applied. but there are those who are not yet ripe for action. such must be sought and controlled to full maturity. and snooping serves that. Yes, this is just an auxiliary tool, and the mericos are improving it and driving society into a figure. all will be there.
        1. EsTaF
          +2
          14 May 2014 12: 48
          well, "anarchists" can only think that they are against the system)
          in spite of my mother I’ll cut off my ears - it’s only physically rolling)) in real life - remember our buffoons of musicians of the 80s, or avant-garde artists of the 60s. they were fighters against the system, as it were. Several decades passed and they became devotees of the system.
          a system is not something static.
          Personally, I am a supporter of the fact that people are kept in the same ignorance as in the days of the pharaohs. I'm talking about the science of managing humanity. And all these Internet and, like, now everything is available - zilch. oil is oil.
          and the management of society is a science and is far from the level of a primer, where everything can be laid out on the fingers. probably there are also their own geniuses who know how to collect all these millions of knowledge and theories and create def. discipline on the policy of action, in order to create conditions under which even a very extraordinary person joined the "collective" of sheep.
          all ingenious is simple. and no bugs are needed.
          everything that we draw from the media and that we observe clearly is just a facade. and it’s not so cool - it’s just science. just knowledge. another thing - they are not available to everyone and all businesses.
  16. Pitman
    0
    14 May 2014 11: 29
    Perhaps they are bored .......
  17. Pitman
    +1
    14 May 2014 11: 31
    Down show ........
  18. +1
    14 May 2014 12: 11
    For how many years they squealed, Russia is a totalitarian power, sc uki, and they themselves are not even the world gendarme, but the world executioner.
  19. +2
    14 May 2014 13: 42
    Information wars with ordinary citizens are a sign of the times ... the "Big Brother" project is implemented using mobile communications and global networks (social in particular) ...
    A citizen ... a person ... is absolutely not protected and does not have the right to protect personal space ...
  20. Orc-xnumx
    +1
    14 May 2014 14: 16
    American morality - Made a vile thing, declare it all to everyone, and you are clean! Ugh, an abomination !!!
  21. +1
    14 May 2014 14: 33
    America since its foundation has been killing its citizens to achieve its political goals, only methods are changing (as in the case of the explosion of the twin towers, one was not enough, they thought)
  22. +1
    14 May 2014 16: 52
    watching internet users all over the planet ??? Khe ... khe.khm ... USING THE CASE, I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO BARAK OBANANYAMEMA! HELLO NIGER! THANKS TO YOU FOR THE GIFT - CRIMEA!))) STILL I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO THE SECRETARY OF THE PSACA CONGRESS! PSACKS, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL, YOU LIKE YOU, SUCH A SEXY .. Dumb TRUTH, BUT NOTHING, WITH BEER AND A BRABLE Pull! STILL I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MCCAIN ... MCCAIN, YOU MU..AK))) THANKS.
  23. 0
    14 May 2014 19: 53
    There is nothing surprising in the work of special services against their citizens in America, they have always acted like this. The concept of morality in such matters does not exist, they simply work out the next order of their owners. Therefore, opposition should be built on the basis of a specific action plan, and not on an emotional assessment of events .