“They want to cover us with blood!”

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City Izyum, Kharkiv region. Ukrainian military stands with his back to the fence. Looks around at the people leaving the neighboring courtyard. He is wearing a protective color. On the head tucked balaclava.

“Today, boy conscripts were shot like partridges,” he says. - We do not clearly understand where the terrorist is. Ours are now saying the same thing that the Berkut people used to say: we returned from the Maidan, they poured mud at us, opened criminal cases against us. On what basis are we here now? We ask to introduce martial law in a separate territory. The law on martial law clearly divides people into civilians and accomplices. Shooters are already beginning to prosecute. Therefore, we are afraid to apply weapon. We have no legal basis for this. Now what happens? We drive up to the roadblock on the vehicle, the separatists immediately go into the forest, leaving only unarmed people there. We drive up, they give up. But as soon as we drive off from the roadblock, the separatists come out of the forest again. Such a tactic ... We can only shoot according to the law on the police - when they shoot at us. That's bullshit. Legally, we would free the city behind the city. But for this we must understand: if we use a weapon, we will get nothing for it.

His time at the fence has expired. Looking around, he walks off quickly.

***

Restaurant "Seven Winds". At the next table sits an unfamiliar tight man in a sports jacket. For a while, he eats a cutlet with red wine.

- Colleague, let me ask where you're from? - A skinny young man with big teeth and a badge dangling on his chest come up to me. Badge reports that the Kharkov journalist came up.

- I do not think that we are colleagues- I answer, and he, having exchanged glances with the man at the next table, leaves.



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Removed the man himself. It does not take five minutes, as in the dark interiors of the restaurant, which in the city of Raisin is considered the most expensive, four of them appear in police uniform.

“Please present the documents,” one of them appeals to me.

“On what basis do you want to check my documents when I have lunch?” - I ask him.

- In the city martial law. You did not know?

- I know that there is no martial law.

- Please present the documents, or you will have to take a ride with us. - They surround my table.

What if you are dressed as terrorists? - I guess. - Present, please, first your documents.

They refuse. For some time we repeat the same phrases: I refuse to show documents until they show theirs. In the end, they get their crusts out of their pockets, and I get my press card from my bag.

They leave the restaurant, talking: “Here they are, the Russians. What all rush to them? In two minutes she had time to morally bite us ... "

***

The track adjacent to the "Seven Winds". I walk on it, fearing to call a taxi. A car passes by with the same policemen. Hiding. An armored vehicle appears. Stops at the curb. When I come, the door opens. A military man with whom I was talking at the fence peeks out of it, gesturing to quickly get into it. Front two more. One removes a helmet from his head and stretches it to me. On the floor machines, body armor and other military accessories.

The car enters the camp and stops near the tents of a protective color. Near them hired men and representatives of the Maidan self-defense, who joined the National Guard. Left armored personnel carriers (over one flying the Ukrainian flag). Behind the helicopter. Past the tents is a man in a sport jacket.

“I just saw him in Seven Winds.”- I say. - He ate a cutlet and drank wine.

“This is Rudnitsky,” the commando responds. - Kerivnyk ATO (the commander of the anti-terrorist operation. - "PP"). Moron, condom and schmuck. He conscripts crumbled in the morning, and he drinks wine. And what for him killed people? He doesn't care. This schmuck called up with retirement. He is a general lieutenant. All his life he commanded the internal troops. Stupid to mayhem. You can imagine what tasks he sets for us: “You go along this road in that direction. There will be a roadblock. Come and shoot him. " We answer: “Well, well. And there are clearly established separatists? ”-“ No, there is a roadblock, which means our enemies are there ”. - "Oh well. And if there are just people standing with sticks or wearing helmets? ”-“ Listen, do not ask stupid questions! Go and shoot! ”-“ No, Comrade Lieutenant-General, if you need, then you go and shoot yourself. ”

- Do you have the right not to execute the order? - I ask, while those sitting in the car escort their gaze "kerivnyka." In their eyes, no malice, no hatred, just surprise.

- And we do not care. Well, what will they do to us? With the war fired? Right from the front? We are trying to explain to our moron, - my friend nods at Rudnitsky, - that there are two ways of conducting military actions: with mind and quantity. He wants to fight by quantity. That is, human losses. We take them, pick them out of these occupied buildings, and for them an automatic amnesty ... We offer a more professional option. But he needs money. And this one, who drinks wine with cutlets, is afraid to call upstairs and report that he needs money to complete his tasks. From above they ask him: “Why have we put you there? You can not cope. Therefore, it creates the appearance of the task.

- How?

- With the help of media. Didn't you hear what you gave yesterday? Slavyansk under the control of power structures.

- Isn't that right?

- Of course not! Visibility is needed for European investors to give money.

- A "Golden Eagle" and "Alpha" is also here?

- On "Golden eagle" and "Alpha" criminal cases for the Maidan are brought. They had an alternative: either to go here, or to go to prison. "Berkut" and "Alpha" are hostages of the situation. Their fate in the hands of Avakov. The history is written by the victorious ... Well, we went. We have little time. We go out at night.

***

Second day. The same car stops at a residential building. Bending his head in the hood, my yesterday's interlocutor moves in short runs to the entrance. Today, on top of military clothing on it is a sports jacket. He looks around stronger than before.

“We have about seven minutes,” he says deafly and not as confidently as yesterday.

- What happened?

- Today we were ambushed. I have three hundredths (fighters with wounds. - “PP”). Nobody talks to us! No one talks to people of my level! - he removes the hood. Beneath it is a thinning face, swollen nose, abrasion on the cheek. - They want to force us to carry out stupid orders! But you will not force us much! We are thinking people. They then board the plane and fly away, and we are responsible.

- Are you still ready to shoot?

- Yes. People with weapons - yes. If people who do not belong to any official structure seize administrative buildings, we inform them: “Guys, the armed forces work here. We give you twenty minutes. Come out with your hands up! Put the weapon next to your left and right. You fall under the amnesty law announced by the government. ” If you do not do this, then in twenty minutes you automatically become criminals, and then the building’s storming begins.

- You shot people today, right?

“No,” he says softly, and closes his dark eyes. It becomes clear: today he shot people.

We are silent. Time is running out.

“Yes, I see that the people live poorly here,” he starts dumbly. - Yes, I see that the people here are driven by these oligarchs. Driven into such conditions ... - does not finish. - But it all turned into ... They wanted, went into the store, took what they wanted and left. In the same Slavyansk and Kramatorsk people themselves suffer from them.

- Is there a “Right Sector” here?

- I did not see any “Right Sector” here. I saw self-defense, which joined the National Guard. "Golden eagle" saw. "Alpha" saw.

- Self-defense Maidan had little time for military training. How do they cope now?

- We are all great strategists, looking at the fight from the side. It’s one thing when you throw paving stones and Molotov cocktails at the Berkut and understand your impunity ... Another thing is that when you go with a gun, people with a gun are against you too. Yes, we are lucky so far. We fired a machine gun, the separatists understood everything and came out with their hands up ... Well, our sniper worked a couple of times. But so, without bravado. As for self-defense, the attitude that they received on the Maidan is not quite the same as vocational training. If you are wounded from a weapon - it is not a mosquito to shake off, you fail. And what is this technique? They have stress points. And to this hearth comes a wife with a stroller. This is a very difficult tactic for us. How to shoot? And how do they attack our controlled objects? Normal stop. People are waiting for a minibus. A car pulls up, two guys in sports jackets come out of it. One tells people: “Stay here. Nobody runs away. ” The second guy from the grenade launcher shells our object with one hand. Moves to another, fastens another horn, shoots. They get in the car and drive away. And people are worth it. They shoot from behind their backs! Neither the sniper nor the shooter can not aim! But this is not done by Russian soldiers. Russian soldiers do not know where to stop, where to get the car, where to go. All this is local. But your give them a weapon.

“I spoke to the locals.” Ninety percent of the population is against you. What do you need: territory cleaned from people or people themselves? You cannot clear ninety percent of the population.

“I understand this every day more and more ... These people never left Eastern Ukraine any longer.” They have nothing to compare. These are poor, discarded, useless people, intimidated by the bloated “Right Sector”. Let it be bad, as always, if only stability ... Yes, all political ways to solve the problem have not been exhausted. They even no one thought to use. Nobody talked to people. And it was necessary. Not a single politician was here. They do not meet with them, and they do not meet with us. Yes, there are no questions - get on the armored car, we will protect you, go to the people in the captured district department. Make reasonable demands, argue. It's easy to call them separatists on TV, and drive along these roads, go to local stores and see their range. Not. What for?

- But will you still take Slavyansk and Kramatorsk today?

- And we will take them ... Only at what price ...

- The price - from which side?

- What's the difference? And there are people, and there. At the cost of human life.



Third day. Cross the dark courtyards. I go out on the lighted road. Local walk around. Not long crowded at the grocery, already closed stalls, quickly talking and immediately diverge. I hear the words: “boomed”, “mortars”, “sector”, “bitches”.

The lights come on. Making the step quicker, I walk to the car. The door opens. Sit in a dark interior. Persons not visible. He has a deep hood.

- Turn on the lights- I say.

“For God's sake,” he lights a light bulb on the ceiling.

His cheek is bitten. The two front seats in the car are empty. Behind the seats are two helmets.

- Where are they? - I nod ahead.

- They are not.

- So where are they?

- They are not.

- They are not here?

- They are two hundred ... We were ambushed. How ineptly everything is planned! So stupid that you can't even imagine, it turns off the light. A tired voice comes from the darkness: - At first I thought that they couldn’t put such mediocrity on the leadership, but now I understand that they specifically put such people who initially can’t do anything constructive. And they do their work on doing nothing professionally. Now I understood why we needed them.

- For what?

- To cover up our blood.

- And you have smeared?

“Nooo,” he says, and from his voice, I again understand that he is lying. “We only fired when they shot at us.”

- They are not to blame.

- Who?

- Those people you shot at. They are not guilty that they were brought to such a life, and then immediately turned against the barrel of the machine gun. Why are you shooting at them? On their own land.

“Sit here, I'll be right there,” he says, opening the door. - I have to report back. Lock down I knock on the glass five times when I get back - he gets out of the car with a limp. “It's over,” explains.

An hour and a half later, they knock on the glass - five times. I open the door. He comes in. Sits down. He lights the light and stares at one point for a long time - where the man who gave me his helmet sat yesterday.

“They were surprised ...” he says dully.

- Who? What

- My management was surprised that I came back alive. They asked to write an explanatory.

- About what?

- About how I managed to get out of two ambushes. This pack of big-bellied generals wants us to explain to them how miraculously we got out of ambush. Do you understand that they did not expect us alive?

- Get out of this war.

- This is not my war. But I am a soldier. I am a member of the ATO. I can not say: "Everything, for me the war is over, I am leaving."

“Tomorrow these generals will be judged ...”

- We drove to the checkpoint, he was blocked by tanks with fuel. We started to drive up - they shot at us with a grenade launcher. We also shot back. Bypassed this checkpoint. We went one more. We went into the administrative building - cleaned out. Began to leave, there are already a lot of people gathered. Jumped on the armor and left. When we approached the roadblock, they were already waiting for us. They have an agent network - the whole city. Then we went to pick up ours, who were ambushed. While they were following, three three hundred and two two hundred. We ourselves were ambushed.

- How did she look?

- As usual. They just set fire to tires in several rows. We stopped, I cleaned up this burning nonsense. They shot at us from a grenade launcher, but again did not calculate: it was dark. I was just in front, and the guys were behind, well ... that's how it happened, he says in a whisper. - Guys hurt.

- What did you feel?

“Nothing,” he says without emotion. “You feel nothing in the heat of battle.” In the heat of battle, only instincts work.

- What kind?

- You hear very well - everything. You see what in peacetime you do not see. See through the bushes. Looking for danger everywhere. I clearly heard the clatter of bullets about armor, I heard the commands of elders. But the psyche has not yet departed. You have no idea what it is ... And the burden of betrayal puts pressure on me.

- Whose?

- The betrayal of those people who declare very different things. Which should help, instead of betraying. We work to restore constitutional order. And we do not have time to sit on the armor, as we immediately pass.

- Who gives?

- Own. I am more than sure.

- And how do you survive?

- By chance…

- Do you understand that there is no honor to shoot your fellow citizens and expose your fighters?

“What can I do if he is a soldier?”

***

They are going away. And not only they. Elite divisions are also leaving, refusing to shoot anyone in an incomprehensible way. Referring to the fact that they cannot clearly distinguish the civilian population from mercenaries. Demanding to give a legal basis for finding special forces in the ATO zone. “We have no right to carry out criminal orders,” they said. - The experience of “Berkuta” showed that people who follow orders become extreme. And the leaders disappear somewhere. ”

In a few days, he will send me a message: “They are blackmailing us. They make you go to the next hot spot - but honestly, to the meat grinder. There is a tactic of detachments of the NKVD: either go ahead or shoot. In this case, requests for retrofitting are ignored. And the most important thing that is not taken into account is the law on martial law. ”

Now with respect to this military and many others, an internal investigation is underway.
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  1. +48
    14 May 2014 06: 20
    In a few days, he will send me a message: “They are blackmailing us. They make you go to the next hot spot - but honestly, to the meat grinder. There is a tactic of detachments of the NKVD: either go ahead or shoot. In this case, requests for retrofitting are ignored. And the most important thing that is not taken into account is the law on martial law. ”

    After these words feel sorry for them? No, thank you .... They themselves have chosen their fate, and now they whine ....
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 06: 22
      When a brother shoots his brother this is a betrayal, and traitors need to be hung on telegraph poles!
      1. +7
        14 May 2014 06: 25
        Quote: karal
        When a brother shoots a brother this is a betrayal,

        They are not brothers to us ...
        1. +47
          14 May 2014 07: 17
          Here I read comments and marvel ... True, everyone knows what to do when sitting in a warm armchair, spring outside the window ... And in the microwave, a warmed-up buter ...
          In fact, the military and almost everyone who participates in this damned ATO in such dung that it is already impossible to get out of it. On the one hand, it’s blackmailing the authorities (to be honest, many officers know what it is or in a hot spot or under the tribunal), and on the other, civilians. It’s clear that many have blood on their hands, it’s clear that everyone will talk — I didn’t shoot, or shot over their heads. It’s clear that they now have a balaclava on their head (albeit virtual) for life ...
          The army and the security forces in the ATO are decomposing right before our eyes. It’s simply because the fighter should not play the war, but fight. And win. But here it looks more like a game. Captured, retreated ... Losses on both sides, but there are no winners.
          I think that patience will end very soon. Riots will begin, mass non-fulfillment of orders and desertion. Even under the threat of 5 years in prison and other cars.
          1. +4
            14 May 2014 08: 25
            Quote: domokl
            Here I read the comments and marvel ..

            Why?
            In my opinion, the author has laid out some essay from meetings with many military men, quite consonant in content, I’m not afraid to say this, to Prokhanov’s Afghan things.
            That's just certain nuances are present, belolentochnye.
          2. +12
            14 May 2014 09: 18
            Now it is important to separate the seeds from the chaff.
            Save those who can be saved. Destroy real enemies.
            Indeed, many of those who do not want to shoot or shoot in a pure field will go to our side. They need help with this.
            If they are destroyed, then the civil war really begins.
            And now this is a war of traitors, the State Department with the people - this is an opportunity to avoid a lot of blood.
            It is necessary to identify those parts that really carry a threat, who have soiled themselves with the blood of their fellow citizens and destroy them. The effect of such a selective approach will be unambiguous. The army (conscripts, reservists) will not see enemies in us and will have to go to our side with weapons!
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              14 May 2014 13: 15
              Quote: nikolaev
              Now it is important to separate the seeds from the chaff.
              Save those who can be saved. Destroy real enemies.
              Indeed, many of those who do not want to shoot or shoot in a pure field will go to our side. They need help with this.
              If they are destroyed, then the civil war really begins.
              And now this is a war of traitors, the State Department with the people - this is an opportunity to avoid a lot of blood.
              It is necessary to identify those parts that really carry a threat, who have soiled themselves with the blood of their fellow citizens and destroy them. The effect of such a selective approach will be unambiguous. The army (conscripts, reservists) will not see enemies in us and will have to go to our side with weapons!



              True said. I suppose in this situation there is one thing: those who understand what is happening and are ready to go would have crossed over for a long time, but they cannot because their families are hostages at the junta and they will not jerk it off this hook.
          3. 0
            14 May 2014 15: 40
            In fact, the military and almost everyone who participates in this damned ATO in such dung that it is already impossible to get out of it.


            It is possible, and in the Civil War it is just very simple. You go to the other side and that’s it.
      2. +11
        14 May 2014 07: 03
        Quote: karal
        When a brother shoots a brother this is a betrayal,

        In these conditions, everyone who takes part in the so-called ATO is more afraid of their own power. They all understand that the difference between ATO and murder is purely conditional.
        When the authorities will look for the guilty, everyone can share the fate of the Golden Eagle!
        1. +6
          14 May 2014 07: 19
          Quote: APASUS
          In these conditions, everyone who takes part in the so-called ATO is more afraid of their own power.

          It seems to me a sensible thought. The authorities are now performing the functions of a blackguard, or a detachment of detachments ... What’s to run forward, what’s back, it’s all the same one-bullet. Only with the option forward there is at least a ghostly chance to survive ...
          1. +9
            14 May 2014 07: 29
            They would turn around and go to this power! Then there will be chances not only to survive, but to live with dignity, without waking up in a cold sweat from the memories of the killings of civilians.
            1. +6
              14 May 2014 10: 16
              Quote: obraztsov

              obraztsov


              Today, 07: 29

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              They would turn around and go to this power! Then there will be chances not only to survive, but to live with dignity, without waking up in a cold sweat from the memories of the killings of civilians.


              I agree! everyone is responsible to God for actions, war is a test.
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          +2
          14 May 2014 08: 16
          It seems so ...
        3. 0
          14 May 2014 09: 19
          side with the truth
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysrk9BKfEGQ
      3. +5
        14 May 2014 07: 24
        This is a civil war. They shoot, including civilians, and try to find an excuse. True, we must admit, and they themselves are in a position between a rock and a hard place.

        Only official recognition of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, as well as the establishment of relations with the rest of the southeast of Ukraine, can put an end to this chaos. Otherwise, Ukraine will cease to exist at all.
      4. +3
        14 May 2014 07: 24
        Quote: karal
        When a brother shoots his brother this is a betrayal, and traitors need to be hung on telegraph poles!

        Correct words, karal ! Only, it must be remembered that no matter how sophisticated the insidious plans of the United States are, the direct managers operate here! And these are the oligarchs, who are wearing pindas ... the hard collars themselves only so that they become oligarchs. And these are not only Ukrainian, but also Russian "Darwins". Ukrainian - keep the fire in cremation ovens in Ukraine, and here - Russian - do everything so that there are no sudden movements capable of extinguishing these ovens forever !!! The more Russians are killed by the Russians, the more guarantees of their well-being from the "master", who has the leashes of the whole pack in his hands. Until Russia gets rid of oligarchic capitalism, it will not get rid of external control, and Russians will kill Russians. Not in Ukraine, but somewhere else they organize a meat grinder.
      5. +1
        14 May 2014 07: 48
        Well, as in our civilian, who hung the one more and won? The most annoying people were divorced for fratricide, and only kalomoisky and others like them were interested in diamonds, and they already divided Ukraine for people and the less people there would be better for the Kiev Fuhrer and their masters, and everything else is extremism and the states listen only his right democratic voice is guided by his interests.
        1. +4
          14 May 2014 10: 58
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          Well, as in our civilian, who hung the one more and won?

          The one who proposed the idea won.
          Land - to the peasants, factories - to the workers.
          So it is here: the one who has an idea that suits the majority will win
      6. +2
        14 May 2014 09: 12
        The 21st century is in the yard, and humanity everywhere is increasingly degrading. And the exit is not visible until the United States collapses. All evil on the planet from their greed and permissiveness.
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    3. +2
      14 May 2014 06: 32
      Quote: sergey72
      After these words feel sorry for them? No, thank you .... They themselves have chosen their fate, and now they whine ....


      Yes it is. But reading is creepy anyway. I hope that soon it will reach them, but for now only the number of corpses is growing.
    4. +1
      14 May 2014 06: 33
      And it will go, it’s a fact.
    5. +5
      14 May 2014 06: 38
      Suppose an order must be executed, let’s say that an illegal order can not be executed, but the degree of its illegality will be determined later than the commission of the act. Therefore, the order in any case will have to be followed, restrictions only in the field of moral-volitional preferences of the performer. Thus, the more honest and decent the person, the more he is not controlled and is not suitable for service. Now this is true for Ukraine.
      1. +2
        14 May 2014 07: 24
        Quote: Civil
        Let’s say the order must be executed, let’s say that the illegal order can not be executed,

        Failure to comply with the order in the context of hostilities is punishable either by shooting on the spot or by a tribunal, which is basically the same thing. This right is given to the commander in battle. Moral and other attitudes do not matter in battle. That is why after the battle there are so many casualties among the civilian population . The first rule of a good fighter -Not clear-shoot ...
        1. +3
          14 May 2014 07: 59
          Quote: domokl
          Failure to comply with the order in the conditions of hostilities is punishable either by shooting on the spot or by a tribunal, which, in principle, is the same.

          I agree when legitimate authority gives orders. Or is the Kiev junta already legitimate?
        2. +1
          14 May 2014 08: 19
          Quote: domokl
          Failure to comply with the order in the conditions of hostilities is punishable either by shooting on the spot or by a tribunal, which in principle is the same. This right is given to the commander in battle.

          Only this is not a fight for a fighter, but an ATO with an incomprehensible status.
        3. +3
          14 May 2014 09: 06
          What are the combat conditions? Where did they come from?
          The soldier should have a head, not an object for a hat.
          Something is easy for you: shoot, shoot, do not understand, shoot too.
          If there is nothing to understand, then another thing.
          This is the philosophy of the executioner, not the soldier.
        4. +4
          14 May 2014 09: 59
          Quote: domokl
          That is why after the battle there are so many casualties among the civilian population.

          Quote: Civil
          Therefore, the order in any case will have to be fulfilled, restrictions only in the field of moral-volitional attitudes of the performer.

          I have already mentioned Guatemala with its Death Squads. Then it was far from us and long ago - in the 80s of the last century.
          Now - at hand and now. But everything is the same.
        5. 0
          14 May 2014 12: 29
          Quote: domokl
          Failure to comply with the order in the conditions of hostilities is punishable either by shooting on the spot or by a tribunal ...
          The first rule of a good fighter -Not clear-shoot ...

          Exactly, in the conditions of military operations. When a soldier fights with his sworn people, it is a crime. Therefore, a soldier has every right to shoot someone who gives criminal orders.
    6. +1
      14 May 2014 07: 31
      After these words feel sorry for them? No, thank you .... They themselves have chosen their fate, and now they whine ....
      he has a choice, he can go over to the side of the people, as others have done.
    7. +4
      14 May 2014 07: 47
      God forbid you will not be in their situation, do not judge, but you will not be judged. But even they must decide who they swore, the Fuhrer from Kiev or the people of Ukraine, the whole people, and not just the Westerners. I don’t justify them, but I don’t judge either, but the Kiev Führers need a frontal position for organizing a civil war and the genocide of their people to cleanse the territory of people for the owners.
    8. 0
      14 May 2014 07: 52
      "Soak" without pity!
      1. +2
        14 May 2014 08: 36
        They are career soldiers and the oath is not an empty phrase for them! We have no right to judge him for following the order (even though he is criminal)! Another question: whether and when will this military man understand that he has reached the brink? To the brink of reason, to the limit, to that very last order given to him, which will put an end to and turn his consciousness in the opposite direction to the side where there are no orders to kill everyone in a row because "they are all separatists."
        Time. Time will fix, time will cure everything.
    9. +4
      14 May 2014 08: 02
      We are working to restore constitutional order.
      1 Where was he with his order on the Maidan half a year ago? Why is there so not torn for him?
      2 It turns out that he does not shoot at ordinary people, but if they give a legal basis, then easily.
    10. +5
      14 May 2014 09: 08
      these \ mercenaries from the National Guard and other things will be deliberately substituted so as not to pay. They really need to have more blood.
      What oath are we talking about? The army swears allegiance to the people, and not to those in power. And if those in power make them shoot at people, then the army’s duty is to turn weapons against this power. Otherwise, a violation of the oath, betrayal, inglorious death for the interests of criminals and traitors.
      The starting point, the landmark of truth - the results of the referendum. It's like a victory in the Second World War.
      Using these landmarks, everything else is determined.
      Now you can see where the people, and where the traitors and enemies.
    11. -2
      14 May 2014 10: 15
      I think the ATO now understood how the federal troops fought in Chechnya, exactly the same, to shoot from behind the backs of civilians, an ambush, not to see the enemy and so on.
      1. +3
        14 May 2014 10: 23
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        I think the ATO now understood how the federal troops fought in Chechnya,

        Hmm Are you so sure

        Oh well...

        Just up from such comparisons.
        Then complain to the troops of Napoleon, otherwise the peasants did not "according to military" rules put them on a pitchfork ... what is there, scribble on the keyboard, so scribble in a big way.
        Yes

        Sniff for harshness.
        request
        1. -1
          14 May 2014 12: 03
          Quote: Aleks tv

          Aleks tv


          Today, 10: 23

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          Quote: Max_Bauder I think the ATOs now understand how the federal troops fought in Chechnya, Hmm? Are you so sure


          I apologize if misled. I had in mind the ATO faced what the Russian guys faced in Chechnya.

          Well, you know, when snipers shoot from a village from a village, guys come up, and there are old men and women.

          And Napoleon honestly invaded and honestly got a lyuley. All is correct.
          1. +1
            14 May 2014 13: 09
            Quote: Max_Bauder
            I had in mind the ATO faced what the Russian guys faced in Chechnya.

            Still, I would not compare it ... "similar" externally, but NOT COMPARABLE.
        2. +1
          14 May 2014 16: 09
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Just up from such comparisons.

          good
    12. +2
      14 May 2014 10: 48
      Quote: sergey72
      After these words feel sorry for them? No, thank you .... They themselves have chosen their fate, and now they whine ....

      And even if he doesn’t say that he didn’t understand where he was going? They thought they would take it abruptly, but it turned out, and recognize it bitterly. And there’s more of the 200s.
  2. +18
    14 May 2014 06: 24
    Expand the trunks and everything will fall into place
    1. +5
      14 May 2014 06: 33
      This is the only right decision.
    2. Alex 241
      +21
      14 May 2014 06: 34
      Everything is much simpler and more prosaic. They promised a fun walk, and paid money, like driving civil suckers. And then suddenly flew back. Here's the lyrics and pulled.
    3. +8
      14 May 2014 06: 36
      Quote: mig31
      Expand the trunks and everything will fall into place


      Once smeared in blood is unlikely to be accepted on the other side. What actually the leaders of the anti-terrorist operation sought - those who have already shot at the rebels can easily be blamed for anything, and for not following the order, if he says that he no longer wants to fight with the civilian population, and in killing civilians - if you need your own back cover ...
      Yes, they had a choice, but only until the first shot was fired. Now only surrender as a prisoner of war ...
    4. deathfa
      +1
      14 May 2014 06: 56
      What are complaining about the car, under the ass sat down and left, he likes home, he wants support.
    5. +3
      14 May 2014 07: 09
      Quote: mig31
      Expand the trunks and everything will fall into place

      This is a matter of time, but the more trunks will turn against them, the more scumbags they will gain in the National Guard. Amnesty already goes 15 ready to join the ranks.
      1. +2
        14 May 2014 08: 22
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: mig31
        Expand the trunks and everything will fall into place

        This is a matter of time, but the more trunks will turn against them, the more scumbags they will gain in the National Guard. Amnesty already goes 15 ready to join the ranks.


        Of the amnestied, two-thirds will flee from nat. guard at the first opportunity. Not that they need freedom to die hell knows what.
  3. +28
    14 May 2014 06: 28
    I just want to cry for the honest Ukrainian military that they do not want to shoot and do not want to break the oath ... And to eat a fish and sit in one place will not work. A comparison of law enforcement officers with the NKVD detachments was completely touched. Comparison of wolves with prof. Unfit zapadentsy. What kind of a pro are you, then, if a punks from Maidan are pushing you. This article is more about ukranian bdsm lovers. Crying Yaroslavna, such as throw SU ki, throw. hi
    1. +8
      14 May 2014 09: 57
      I agree, comrade. But the military wants to say the following. Right now you find yourself in a situation similar to the first Chechen one, only there the captive helicopter pilots were cut off their heads and did not render assistance. Is it hard for you, military man? Who do not know to shoot? Do you require martial law? And then, like, you can, right? Come on, shoot me. Then, spitting on all and all kinds of sanctions, our army will come, which it will no longer be possible to shoot with impunity. And you, with a high degree of probability, will perish. Nothing personal, such a job. What do you do? Here, sorry, I don’t know. Everyone has his own conscience. I will not call for desertion. I myself am an officer and calling another officer, even a potential enemy, to break the oath is wrong. (IMHO). On the other hand, you all have allowed such a thing in the country.
      In general, the article resembles the opuses of NTV and Novaya Gazeta, which were written during the first Chechen "from the other side." Minusanul.
  4. victorTT
    +2
    14 May 2014 06: 29
    Yeah, scary what is being done. BUT! On August 17, God will calm and calm this situation. There will only be a ruined economy and big scars on the hearts of many people who are not indifferent to the tragedy that we see among our brotherly people among people that are captured by lies and lies that are pouring from the screens. I propose to pray to God for the people of Ukraine so that they understand how far away they are from God, how all Ukraine has left God and become a godless country! betrayed God betrayed faith in God betrayed brothers and called friends enemies and enemies friends. this is what the devil, the father of lies, does - divides people and destroys friendship and love.
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 07: 08
      I want to ask, in order to improve education: what will happen on August 17?
    2. +1
      14 May 2014 08: 07
      Quote: victorTT
      BUT! On August 17, God will calm and calm this situation.

      Yes, Victor, tell me, what will happen on 17.08.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. horror how interesting ?!
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 12: 57
        Cop! belay
        I just don’t remember what serial number, the number is too big ... laughing
  5. +4
    14 May 2014 06: 29
    The guys were in a difficult position, there was only one way out, a 180-degree turn.
  6. +11
    14 May 2014 06: 30
    Muddy article.
    1. deathfa
      +1
      14 May 2014 06: 57
      Something is somehow wrong.
    2. +1
      14 May 2014 08: 36
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      Muddy article.


      The article shows a view from the other side. It turned out pitifully, and it was intended to cause sympathy. But for some reason this does not cause sympathy. These fighters themselves understand that they are used as condoms, and then they will throw them away; they are exposed to fire and perish, but in the future it will shine, at best, not with rewarding, but simply oblivion; and in the worst case, a prison or just revenge on the part of those whom they shot. They have three ways - to the end to be faithful to this illegal power, to desert and run, go to the side of the protesters.
      And if he achs, but did not make his choice, then it does not cause pity, but contempt, because he does not want to be faithful to the power that substitutes him, but he remains faithful.
    3. SVT
      +12
      14 May 2014 09: 08
      journalist is a girl having dinner ONE in an expensive restaurant, a tackle comes to her, she flickes her eyebrows, identifies a provocateur with her big teeth, and right there at the next table she sees the ATO commander in the area as a whole lieutenant general having dinner alone, then with her for 3 For several days, a special forces officer is talking, and for this he tells many secrets - where did they go, how much did they lose, in essence pouring out their souls and to whom - to the reporter? The officer after the battle with the loss of fighters goes to the city, almost to the apartment - judging by the description of the quarter with stalls, people, this is clearly not the government center of the city, although there are a lot of raisins, but nevertheless, where they report to the command in 30 minutes , writes an explanatory note (there was not 1,5 hours until round-trip, while he spoke about the results of the operation, described the clashes, gave conclusions)
      In general, an example of not the highest quality satelliteism, from newfangled magazines.
      She herself came up with questions, she answered them herself. personally my opinion is an article invented by a journalist at the peak of the day.
  7. +7
    14 May 2014 06: 31
    He himself understands that he is executing criminal orders, complains and finds excuses. So it looks like the Nazi criminals tried to otmazyvatsya.
    1. 0
      14 May 2014 07: 58
      You should have thought with your head before, but now it's too late, the blood is on you! The only option for "rehabilitation" for you is to crumble the Pravosek people, disperse the maydanutyhs and go to Kiev, "settle down" there! And it is better not to poke your nose to the South-East: they will crush you into "okroshka"!
  8. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 33
    Everything is simple here. There is such a historical algorithm: if Nazis that burn people appear somewhere, no matter what they are called, after some time the Russian army appears there and destroys the Nazis. And here it is not so important what this army is called: “red”, “Soviet”, “Russian” or simply “the people's militia of Donbass”.
  9. +7
    14 May 2014 06: 34
    Beasts are these Bendera. Get them down guys. Do not follow criminal orders.
    From now on, since March 2014 there is no Constitution in Ukraine.
    This is not a constitutional order but a deliberate fomentation of a civil war by your own hands.
    Exit: soak pravosekov and Bandera, Go to Kiev. The fate and future of the country is in your hands. Crush the reptile in the bud - you will be stable. Shoot the criminal generals from Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk.
  10. +8
    14 May 2014 06: 36
    "... In the end, they take their crusts out of their pockets, and I take my press card out of my bag.

    They leave the restaurant, talking: “Here they are, Russians. Why is everyone rushing to them? She managed to bite us morally in two minutes ... "........."


    And what do you guys want? ...
    A woman with truth in her hands, and even if she’s not a journalist at all, she’s cooler than any policeman ... This is an axiom!

    But, to be honest, something too many words are said by these junta commandos ...

    The material seems to be not bad, but: - I do not believe it! Just like in Stanislavsky ...
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 09: 14
      Quote: Tartary
      The material seems to be not bad, but: - I do not believe it! Just like in Stanislavsky ...

      Too everything is far-fetched to show a desired look at events. And it feels like the article was written in this very restaurant “Seven Winds”, without leaving the table ...
  11. +14
    14 May 2014 06: 36
    Something is hard to believe ... In the war zone, the valiant Marina Akhmetova does what? According to the presentation - fiction, in fact - lies a percent on 50: "... A tired voice comes from the darkness ... In a few days he will send me a message ... Day three. Crossing dark courtyards ..." Bullshit for malacholnyh.
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 06: 45
      99 percent
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 07: 59
      Also hard to believe!
    3. 0
      14 May 2014 08: 38
      Quote: TRex
      Something is hard to believe ...

      So it is necessary for the entourage. Classics of the genre. As it was with Zadornov: "It was getting dark ..."
  12. +1
    14 May 2014 06: 36
    In a few days, he will send me a message: “They are blackmailing us. They make you go to the next hot spot - but honestly, to the meat grinder. There is a tactic of detachments of the NKVD: either go ahead or shoot. In this case, requests for retrofitting are ignored. And the most important thing that is not taken into account is the law on martial law. ”

    After these words feel sorry for them? No, thank you .... They themselves have chosen their fate, and now they whine ....

    NKVD also dragged !!! Warrior ...
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 08: 39
      Quote: voveim
      NKVD also dragged !!! Warrior ...

      Yes, most likely, about the NKVD, the journalist herself dragged on - author's speculation, so to speak.
  13. +5
    14 May 2014 06: 37
    In my opinion this is not an article, but some kind of nonsense!
    1. deathfa
      0
      14 May 2014 07: 01
      Good imagination and no need to go anywhere.
  14. Khalmamed
    0
    14 May 2014 06: 43
    in these difficult days, a MAN with a Will and Spirit must choose LIGHT or darkness ...
    as a rule, there are few unclean ones .., a small stadok .... weak spirit and will, semi-literate ... commanded by sociopaths and frank psychos ...
    "ignorance and illiteracy lead to slavery" ... after with your hands they kill YOUR Brothers and Sisters ... what these freaks will do to you and your families ...
  15. wanderer
    +4
    14 May 2014 06: 43
    One of the reasons why the Great October Socialist Revolution triumphed was the army’s transition to the side of the people. Agitators in the troops worked just fine)))
    1. -1
      14 May 2014 08: 09
      Quote: wanderer
      Agitators in the troops worked just fine)))

      Still .... They had at least three years for this, the absence of "Internet", and the atrocities of those "great gevolutsionergs" were not an example more inhuman than the current ones ...
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 08: 16
      Quote: wanderer
      One of the reasons why the Great October Socialist Revolution triumphed was the army’s transition to the side of the people. Agitators in the troops worked just fine)))

      if it had not been for 3 years of "imperialist" war and betrayal of the RI's top of the interests of RI, playing on the notes of France and England and the death of millions of soldiers, no agitation could force the army to go over to the side of the people en masse. I don't want analogies with 1917, but in this case, the mass sobering up of the Ukrainian military may also occur in 2017. Imagine that they can destroy during this time. now, at the very beginning of the bloody path, the army can still stop itself and stop others. as Mao said: "The rifle gives rise to power," and the largest "rifle" is the army.
  16. +1
    14 May 2014 06: 46
    Was ... was not ... I shot, I did not shoot ... they will establish a medal "Smeared Blood" ... everyone will be awarded with a bonus, only those who have dough in their blood will receive much more, only who will know it ... they will officially write down the heirs of the sonder teams ... they will give out benefits ... the same amount of blood on the hands of different degrees ... but officially everyone will look the same ... with one insignia ... and the killers ... and pacifists.
  17. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 46
    These are poor, thrown out, useless people, frightened by the inflated “Right Sector”.
    I understand that about the residents of Donetsk? Why, then, the only KHL team (not a poor league by the way) from Ukraine is called "Donbass"
    1. 0
      14 May 2014 07: 44
      They also did not hear anything about the Donetsk Miner winked
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 08: 01
        you come see how people live in small towns .. in Gorlovka for example.
      2. +1
        14 May 2014 08: 42
        Quote: Vinci
        They also did not hear anything about the Donetsk Miner winked

        The text is from the author, but this journalist, perhaps, is not interested in football or hockey, and, accordingly, does not know about HC "Donbass" and FC "Shakhtar".
  18. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 48
    It seems like a brain zero, is it really not clear who gives you orders to kill people in your country .... Kill brothers and sisters, kill civilians of the country in which you live ....
    Open your eyes - look, clean your ears - listen, think - who you are and what you do .........
  19. +1
    14 May 2014 06: 49
    The Ukrainian division of Carlsberg stopped selling beer in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in the Donetsk region. About this with reference to the statement of the press service of the brewing company reports ITAR-TASS.

    Deliveries, according to company representatives, were suspended "so that our employees do not take risks." Carlsberg promised to resume selling beer as soon as the situation stabilizes.

    “The current situation in the east of the country is unlikely to have a positive effect for business in any direction,” the agency quoted the company as saying.

    Calrsberg-Ukraine owns factories in Zaporozhye, Kiev and Lviv and takes the second place in the Ukrainian beer market (the leader is AB InBev).


    Everything, a sober lifestyle comes for Kramatorsk and Slovyansk. It remains to drink vodka and eat fat.
  20. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 50
    I did not understand why this article was written, in order to cause us pity for such a poor Ukrainian military or to show all the hopelessness of the war against the people. If you cause pity, we can’t wait, we don’t have pity for the killers, if the second, then war against the people is always lost.
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 08: 40
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      I did not understand why this article was written, in order to arouse our pity for such a poor Ukrainian military or to show all the hopelessness of the war against the people.

      This article is, first of all, a dialogue. Peaceful dialogue with the opposing side. These are not shouts, not insults, not threats to a person who has come to your house with a weapon. This is an attempt to understand why, for what and for what purpose the barrel is directed by an ordinary soldier of Ukraine to its civilian population. Or offer to silently "cut" everyone? But on different sides of the barricades the same people are standing. Maybe they just need to hear each other. Hear for real. Maybe this is exactly what is not enough for not mature soldiers to understand for whom they are being driven to die. And Marina is great. Not everyone has the courage to do such interviews.
      Above in the comments I read supposedly bullshit, fiction, etc. And you need to file a dry report from the interrogation of the captive lawyer with knocking out teeth and torture? Blood is already more than enough. Sooner or later, everyone will have to lay down their arms and look into each other's eyes. Victories in a civil war are not celebrated.
      And the article is normal. It is well read and understood. The girl only asks, without saying anything. The guy himself draws conclusions, he himself argues. He himself (without realizing this) makes it clear that he is not drugged as a pravoseki, but simply incorrectly and limitedly informed. I think that these guys are treatable. He only needs help. And at least one death in Ukraine will be less.
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 09: 16
        Quote: Native grandfather
        And the article is normal.

        This is the time I meet the word article!
        The artwork is, art!
        Maybe the book will be!
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 08: 54
      Totally agree, the article is custom-made, compassionate. This shows that the self-defense of SLAVYANSK is left to squeeze them. And they will run like Swedes near Poltava.
  21. +2
    14 May 2014 06: 50
    Guys, how can you decide! 23 years old have grown Bander-now surprise fighters for the independence of the people cut! Six months we jumped on the Maidan, ate American cookies, now Biden’s son will run the gas! It’s time to figure out now-free cookies only in a mousetrap! So think about where you will come with the EGGS?
  22. 0
    14 May 2014 06: 50
    Whimpering, it means he feels reckoning soon!
  23. +3
    14 May 2014 06: 54
    There was an impression that this military man has a struggle in his head between conscience and the desire to preserve his ... zatsu. While the winner is * oops.

    It is difficult for a person who is used to following orders to rebuild his thinking on his own analysis of the situation: who gives orders and on what basis.

    Porridge in the minds of many people ...
    1. +3
      14 May 2014 08: 04
      by no means, there is no conscience here, Ordinary fear for his w .... life. He is absolutely on the drum to shoot people or not. ironed so that he would not be judged then ..or now they will not be killed. half the country of such ... :(
  24. +5
    14 May 2014 06: 55
    Some garbage. Continuous reflection. We are supposedly white and fluffy. We are for the people, but they force us. Ugh! I read - the feeling that I entered the town with my shoe. It's disgusting. Some slugs, IMHO.
  25. +13
    14 May 2014 07: 02
    Note to Ukrainians, especially those who defend the junta with weapons ...
  26. +4
    14 May 2014 07: 05
    What bothers you to switch to the side of self-defense, or simply throw away your documents and return to your hometown. I think it’s just a matter of money, as long as they pay, they shoot and shoot in the blood.
  27. yulka2980
    +4
    14 May 2014 07: 09
    Go to the other side! After all, "Berkut" could do it! I don't feel sorry for these so-called soldiers, shooting at their own mothers, children, old people! Come to your senses before it's too late ... fool
  28. a boat
    +4
    14 May 2014 07: 14
    what kind of nonsense? did not KYEV write this brow? I live in the DPR and see everything, already it’s disgusting to read!
  29. 0
    14 May 2014 07: 34
    Quote: Civil
    Thus, the more honest and decent a person, the more he is not controlled and is not suitable for service


    If you agree with this, then in our army there are many (!) Dishonest and dishonest ... But I can not agree with this !!!

    Quote: Civil
    Now this is true for Ukraine


    If only in this context.
  30. +3
    14 May 2014 07: 45
    long ago it was time for the military to decide who the army is and do not whine about the fact that they are shooting at you, you complain to the authorities and they can do nothing more than eat cutlets. everything else is a meaningless lamentation. blood on the army ukroiny big silently swallowed inhuman orders to destroy the civilian population and when they themselves began to shoot, they whined
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 09: 13
      They love to shoot themselves, and when it’s impossible to shoot at them, I don’t play like that.
      You're right. From many comments, my hair stand on end: some sort of muttering about the charter and duty.
      Corporate empathy for an outspoken mercenary and executioner.
      The one who serves the CRIMINAL IS THE CRIMINAL. And no links to so-called orders are not valid.
      And if you consider yourself a soldier and follow the order of the criminal government, then YOU ARE A WAR CRIMINAL.
      And the rest is chatter.
  31. +1
    14 May 2014 07: 48
    Maidan is one thing, another here, in the East, when they mock at the otvetka.
  32. +4
    14 May 2014 08: 34
    That cut it ...
    Where is he so rich from?

    “Yes, I see that the people here live poorly,” he begins muffledly. - Yes, I see that the people here are driven by these oligarchs. Driven into such conditions ...
    - I understand this more and more every day ... These people have never left East Ukraine. They have nothing to compare. These are poor, thrown out, useless people, frightened by the inflated “Right Sector”. Let it be shitty, as always, if only stability ...
  33. +3
    14 May 2014 08: 42
    We are working to restore constitutional order.

    Your constitution was burned on the Maidan together with "Berkut" for cookies and "European values". And now you are just cannon fodder for the Kiev junta, which must be "sold" (or served) to sponsors from "civilized Europe and the Fashobkom". And "the meat must be served with blood."
  34. +1
    14 May 2014 09: 09
    The woman is courageous. You will not say anything. And the article is interesting, a kind of "inside" view.
    Only this twisted:
    There is a tactic for the NKVD detachment detachments: either go ahead or shoot them.
    no need to drag in what you don’t know.
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 09: 23
      Quote: retired
      And the article is interesting, a kind of "inside" view.

      Hello Yuri.
      What an article! This is a fragment of a work of art, predecessor _
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 10: 53
        Good afternoon, Vladimir! hi
        Quote: Cynic
        What an article! This is a piece of artwork.
        Well tady OH ... request
      2. Codename49
        0
        14 May 2014 14: 40
        Clashes between the two Civilizations of the West and the East !!! West-calculating technological, East-spiritual cultural traditional hierarchical!
  35. +2
    14 May 2014 09: 39
    Therefore, they do not join Donetsk with Lugansk in the Russian Federation. They are waiting for the army to completely decay. Since almost all the Ukrainian Armed Forces are located in the Southeast, when they join, they will have to face these forces. The appearance of a specific enemy may trigger the crystallization of the army and society in Ukraine. Putin is waiting for everything to decay and scatter. When the WHOLE people of Ukraine will understand who is in power and what goals they are pursuing. Why do we need 2 regions of Ukraine if we have to fight with many other regions in which the same Russians live. We for Donetsk with Lugansk we will kill Kharkovites, Odessites and others? It's worth it? Do we need it? We have to wait a bit and be patient, all of us, and the Russian Federation, and Donetsk and Lugansk. This is a war and a big one, Lugansk and Donetsk are not even a front, they are separate battles of local significance. And at stake is a great war and a lot of blood. Will we show wisdom and strength and be able to defeat the minor, or get involved in a bloodbath and the rivers will turn scarlet?
  36. Rusin Dima
    0
    14 May 2014 09: 53
    I do not feel sorry for either this military man or his dead comrades, I feel sorry for the people of the South-East who laid down their heads for their land protecting it from such cowardly scum hiding behind the words "well, what can I do, I'm a soldier"
  37. Roshchin
    +6
    14 May 2014 09: 55
    The article is correct, ideologically consistent. Only now it would be nice for the author M. Akhmedova to visit not only the office for a laptop, but also at the place of the described events. I recall the writings of the Soviet balancing act, when a peasant from a Guinean village talked politically competently about Soviet-Guinean friendship, and a former Afghan dushman began to study the historical decisions of the next Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU. It is especially impressive how she was first in a restaurant and then at night on the street. -x cops. At the same time, I would have captured the lover of cutlets and wine, the Ukropsky Lieutenant General. Well, after unforgettable meetings with Marinka, the mysterious interlocutor began to study the historical decisions of United Russia.
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 10: 17
      Quote: Grove
      The article is correct, ideologically seasoned.

      Neighing.
      Thanks for the comment, but I myself was too lazy to write.
      good

      A good story for the layman, right. Really - NEEDED.
      But ... a complete and absolute "military" splash.
  38. 0
    14 May 2014 10: 19
    This is the army! The main thing for them is to get a team, shoot! Where, in whom it does not matter. I wonder if they will send a native to the house, will he also sing ???
    In general, this is the biggest minus of the pro-army; they will shoot for money! Even contrary to his conscience, if it is available.
  39. BAT
    0
    14 May 2014 10: 27
    An interesting tale. As for me, everything was invented from beginning to end. But all this is invented. 100%.
  40. 0
    14 May 2014 11: 19
    It is interesting to read, as you know, every author of a work of art has the right to fiction.
  41. +1
    14 May 2014 11: 30
    This is not an article. This is a shitty piece of art. I DO NOT BELIEVE.
  42. +1
    14 May 2014 11: 48
    Minus the article. Crocodile tears. An attempt to evoke sympathy for the "sub-Maidan" - people who understand that they are doing wrong deeds. They take part in the war against their own people, because it is easier for them, the power is still behind the maydanuts. Cowardice. It is difficult to respect and sympathize with them.
    And how many executioners sentenced in Nuremberg mumbled - ... I am a soldier, I followed orders ...
    You are primarily a man, not a ram.
  43. +1
    14 May 2014 12: 05
    piece of art. As a result of discussions at several forums, well-read people spotted hints of plagiarism of a text from a book about the First Chechen, only the place of events in Ukraine was changed
  44. mihasik
    0
    14 May 2014 12: 14
    Betrayal of those people who declare very different things. Which should help, instead of betraying. We are working to restore constitutional order. And before we have time to sit on the armor, they immediately surrender us.

    - Who gives?


    Here is the most important, but blurry in the conversation:We are working to restore constitutional order!
    The author needed to ask this military man only one question and that’s all - his brain would have gone completely crazy.
    What order or law? After the coup there are no legitimate laws. There are bandits who have occupied government offices. Does he recognize the gangster coup as legitimate authority? Then he is the criminal and the killer! And there is no mercy if there are no brains in the head!
  45. +2
    14 May 2014 12: 34
    I do not like the Prokhanov howls. And this article also does not like. The military does not think so. Journalistic fantasies.
  46. 0
    14 May 2014 13: 40
    I don’t care whether the article is true or not, I think something in between. This is not the point for me, all these Ukrainian warriors are ordinary fascists for me because they serve the fascist regime in Kiev. Therefore, not a bit of pity and sympathy.
  47. Simonov
    0
    14 May 2014 13: 46
    Quote: nikolaev
    Now it is important to separate the seeds from the chaff.
    Save those who can be saved. Destroy real enemies.
    Indeed, many of those who do not want to shoot or shoot in a pure field will go to our side. They need help with this.
    If they are destroyed, then the civil war really begins.
    And now this is a war of traitors, the State Department with the people - this is an opportunity to avoid a lot of blood.
    It is necessary to identify those parts that really carry a threat, who have soiled themselves with the blood of their fellow citizens and destroy them. The effect of such a selective approach will be unambiguous. The army (conscripts, reservists) will not see enemies in us and will have to go to our side with weapons!

    All more or less combat-ready units in the east.
    Now is the time to make a night raid on Kiev:
    1. Explore the situation in Kiev - the location of the headquarters of the Natsik, Fatherland, apartments of Messrs. Ya., T., A., prepare corridors of departure.
    2. Load 3–4 BMDs on trailers with full ammunition and 30–40 raiders with lots of RPGs.
    3. To make a rapid night raid on Kiev (there are no roadblocks at the entrance to Kiev) on trailers, it is possible under the guise of Ukrainian warriors. In the morning, the headquarters of the Natsiks, the Ministry of Defense, the Fatherland, the apartments of the aforementioned gentlemen from guns and RPGs were consuming.
    4. After the ammunition is shot, the equipment should be burned \ pulled and seeped from Kiev in groups of 2-3 people to a collection point outside the city. Further - quickly on the prepared equipment home.
    The effect will be overwhelming, like from the bombing of Berlin in 1941.
  48. 0
    14 May 2014 15: 06
    MOSCOW, May 14 - RIA Novosti. The militia of Slavyansk intends to move from defensive to offensive tactics, spokeswoman for the “people's mayor” of the city, Stella Khorosheva, told RIA Novosti.
  49. tokin1959
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    14 May 2014 15: 28
    they want to cover us in the blood

    smear in the blood or not - everyone can choose their own path.
    if you choose to be smeared - this is exactly your choice.
  50. +2
    14 May 2014 15: 43
    They leave the restaurant, talking, “Here they are, Russians. Why are all eager for them? She managed to bite us morally in two minutes ... "

    it’s a pity that I didn’t break it like a Tuzik heating pad
  51. 0
    15 May 2014 00: 30
    Remember how in Syria everything began just as reluctantly. Well, the Syrians did not want to fight with each other. And the result is ruins at every turn and countless dead.
    This military man took the side of Mordor, no excuses will help him, maybe he will see the light, maybe he will repent, but no amount of tears can wash away his wrong actions. The most important thing is that in his soul he knows for sure that he is wrong, but he is looking for excuses for himself, but there cannot be any.