25 May: why this particular date?

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25 May: why this particular date?21 February 2014, in the apt expression of our president, the popularly elected Yanukovych personally handed over power to the Maidan, having signed the well-known Agreement in the presence of three "high" diplomats.

Among other concessions, the Agreement assumed that after the constitutional reform and the adoption of the new Constitution, no later than December 2014 would be held in Ukraine, presidential elections would be held.

It would seem that still need? Here it is, Nenka, tepid with a smeared mouth cookies, is given entirely and without remainder. But no, something did not suit Europe and America.

What happened, gentlemen? Why so much blood and tantrums? Why the US Department of State, Merkel, Ashton and Barroso have recently shouted as victims, practically breaking off on a yelp, and taldychat the same thing: "The presidential elections scheduled for May 25 should take place."

The devil, as always, is in the details.

It is well known that 25 May 2014 will be held elections to the European Parliament. Coincidence? Not at all.

In fact, elections to the European Parliament will be held in the EU countries in the period from 22 to 25 in May of this year. On the last day of elections with the tallying of the voting results, the previous composition of the European Parliament resigns with the expiration of a five-year term. The newly elected parliamentarians will take over with the opening of the first session of the new convocation, which is scheduled for July 01, 2014.

It would seem, what a connection, because the European Parliament is in fact a decorative, deliberative institution. But the dog is buried deeper.

The fact is that on the same day, May 25, the powers and members of the European Commission, including its chairman Barroso, and the European Commissioner for International Affairs - Baroness Ashton, should end. The moment of termination of powers by the EU legislation (the Lisbon Treaty) is not precisely regulated, but within the meaning of the contract, the executive bodies of the European Union, which are add-on bodies, do not follow the principle of continuity of functions during rotation, i.e. there is a period when some have already resigned, and new bodies have not yet been elected.

Since the European Commission is actually the executive body of the European Union, which has exclusive powers to conclude agreements on behalf of the European Union (not even the Council of Europe - the European bureaucracy is so arranged), after 25 May, there will be no one who technically sign an agreement on European integration with Ukraine. And for the West it is a disaster, because with the future composition of the European Parliament, it is not at all obvious that it will be possible to bring the right people to the European Commission and to approve the appointment of the “worthy” successor to Barroso in the European Parliament. Theoretically, both he and Ashton can be re-elected, since the law allows for re-election, but in the light of the latest "arts" and with the increasing influence of healthy right-wing forces in Europe, their chances are zero.

This, apparently, is well understood in Brussels and in Washington. And without the European Integration Agreement, which opens the gate for NATO, the whole adventure loses all meaning. After all, it’s not for the sake of a brighter future “Square” that all this has been started.

So decide whether the election of 25 may take place on May 2014.

P.S. Obviously, in view of the upcoming inauguration of the newly elected president of Ukraine, only Yatsenyuk can be the signatory of the European integration agreement on behalf of Ukraine, but “under the shadow of the legally elected president.” Isn’t it possible for them to have prepared the signatures under the agreement in advance and staged a performance with "signing certain provisions" of the agreement? It seems to fear in the time trouble technical overlays.
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  1. +4
    14 May 2014 08: 18
    Porshenko to slap and this should make Yulka her profitable.
    1. Alexey N
      +11
      14 May 2014 08: 24
      Who cares who. For the East Outskirts, everything is one
    2. 0
      14 May 2014 08: 53
      Quote: maks-xnumx
      Porshenko to slap and this should make Yulka her profitable.

      Even easier. On May 25, even if everyone is elected and everyone signs it, on June 25, one of the signatories will cease to exist as a legal entity. And even if it doesn’t stop, then by the autumn it will shrink to the size of the Lviv region.
    3. +2
      14 May 2014 09: 32
      look (at maks-101) a clean mole, as it correctly writes.
      1. +4
        14 May 2014 09: 53
        Well, a person from the subway writes, for example, from the phone. Or are you thinking again about a healthy African American who ineptly uses a text translation program? drinks
    4. avg
      +4
      14 May 2014 10: 55
      How is it, what is there ... Stop crackling. It is necessary to help the Southeast, or we are waiting for them to be rolled into the asphalt with tanks. If only ATGMs and MANPADS were given, but volunteers helped organize.
    5. +1
      14 May 2014 13: 08
      Porshenko to slap and this should make Yulka her profitable.
      He doesn’t just have to be slapped to please Yulka. And so that the carriage and the cart of facts clearly point to Yulka. Even if this is for her it will be a surprise.
  2. mad
    +4
    14 May 2014 08: 19
    It’s not for the sake of a brighter future “independent” all this is started.

    Here's how to convey this to the zombie population of Ukraine, not only with weapons in hand, but by mistake defending the "new" power.
    1. +10
      14 May 2014 08: 24
      Explain something only to someone who is willing to listen. But Svidomo so far only able to listen to themselves. hi
      1. +10
        14 May 2014 09: 46
        Quote: mad
        Here's how to convey it to the zombie population of Ukraine
        Given that all TV channels with an alternative opinion are blocked - only by old methods: through distributing newspapers and putting up leaflets. That is, through the very actions that are called "political work with the population." But no one is doing this. sad Existing parties (including the so-called communists) share only grandmas.

        Of all the people in Ukraine, only Tsaryov and, possibly, Korolevskaya turned out to be a politician (God forgive me).

        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        Explain something only to someone who is willing to listen. But Svidomo so far only able to listen to themselves.

        and they don’t have to explain anything. We will win - let them later explain to each other in the zone.

        But we only need to organize ourselves, to nominate leaders in the struggle and to stand in confrontation with the whole West. With his media, intelligence, mercenaries and, possibly, armies ... Bitch. (sorry did not hold back)
      2. HAM
        +2
        14 May 2014 11: 05
        And you are one hundred percent right, every day I listen to skirmishes on the radio (RL), the guys from the southeast are trying (politely) to convey their point of view to the people of Kiev and other "free" people, and in response only obscenities ...
        1. +4
          14 May 2014 11: 10
          Quote: HAM
          and in response only mats, but for some reason in pure Russian ...
          and what is surprising here? Kiev is a Russian-speaking city. On television, if not advertisements or completely false "news" - Russian serials in Russian.

          80% of Ukrainians are Russian speakers. This alone indicates that Bandera will not last long (or rather, it will not stay in power, but we’ll see how it happens - quickly or for a long time).
      3. Fin
        +4
        14 May 2014 11: 35
        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        Explain something only to someone who is willing to listen. But Svidomo so far only able to listen to themselves. hi

        It is useless to explain if close relatives stop communicating because of this. The Ukrainian is stubborn by himself, until he enters into ... he will not believe anyone.
        There is one caveat with the May 25 election. In Syria, scheduled for June 1, in the country the situation is the same as in Ukraine - the ATO, the war, you can call it anything. If the EU and the US recognize the election here, then what about recognition in Syria? We do not recognize in Ukraine, and recognize in Syria? The map lays interestingly ...
        1. 0
          14 May 2014 14: 00
          If the EU and the US recognize the elections here, then what about recognition in Syria?
          Abamka does not seem to recognize the elections in Syria, the geyropa does not dare to argue with him. We, apparently, recognize the elections in Ukraine, if there are no high-profile scandals before and in the elections. After the election, full-scale aggression against the FRN is possible. this is my prediction, who thinks about it?
          1. 0
            14 May 2014 14: 47
            ktu66 ...... Abamka does not seem to recognize the elections in Syria, the geyropa does not dare to argue with him. against the FRN. this is my prediction, who thinks about it?

            "ALL" elections were recognized in Afghanistan. Karzai "voted" without letting him out of the "green zone". So nothing new from the West should be expected. The elections in Ukraine are another matter, this is a real struggle of oligarchs under the roof of the United States. Disruption of the election of a profitable government headed by Tymoshenko. But the elections must be disrupted in such a way as to blame Russia for it, and Russia is stubbornly not provoking. It seems that the West is now in a takedown. If elections fail, Yanukovych's legitimacy remains.
          2. +1
            14 May 2014 15: 37
            Quote: jktu66
            We apparently recognize the elections in Ukraine

            Why? Is it somehow profitable for Russia? Or who will force us? Or maybe conscience will not allow us not to recognize such a democratic procedure of expression of will?
            About Syria: in any case, Russia will recognize Assad’s election wink president, and the whole world g @ down, led by the United States - no.
            So at the end of May-beginning of June we will have a fascinating show of "confessions and non-confessions"! The participants are the same and Novorossiya and Transnistria.
            1. 0
              14 May 2014 19: 08
              jktu66
              Now I watched an interview with Naryshkin on Rossii24 and realized that I was completely wrong about Ukraine. Russia recognizes Poroshenko's elections. Accordingly, Novorossiya will soon end without really starting. Things like that ... are not fun.
              1. Andersen68
                0
                15 May 2014 18: 50
                Do not listen to Naryshkin ... this is not the whole country said, firstly. Secondly, does it not seem to all of you that it’s too early to talk about the presidential election? There’s not much time left, will it take place? But suddenly it won’t take place, then the reason ... but there may be a surprise. For example, some army will enter Kiev ... or some other Maidan will arise. But if it was now the 25th, then say who and what. In this country, it’s impossible to make a forecast even for a week .. ..
      4. 0
        14 May 2014 14: 03
        Hearing well restores hunger and cold ... And they begin to think only after hard physical work in the fresh frosty air, although the uranium mines also exert their miraculous influence ..
  3. +6
    14 May 2014 08: 21
    "Here it is, nenka, lukewarm with a mouth smeared with cookies, is given entirely and without a trace. But no, something did not suit Europe and America."

    Yes, it would suit Europe, but the true owners of this Sabbath - the United States, all this did not please. They need a mess and bigger to spend all their resources in this mess (Russia, the EU), and then the Americans will come all in white and say - okay, that's enough, and now do what we say. But what about Ukraine? Ukraine is out of luck.
  4. +7
    14 May 2014 08: 24
    The article is not without common sense. Legal casuistry is the hobby of liberals. Sign any paper, on the one hand, with legitimate, but the formerEU representatives and with recognized prezik Ukraine, but not legitimate, on the other - a legal problem, which will give the right to "poke your nose" for many years.

    There is, however, one solution. All-Ukrainian referendum (without SE) on the denunciation of all treaties with the EU. But this is fantastic.
    1. -1
      14 May 2014 08: 38
      eats another, all candidates for deceased will be given 9 grams
      and it’s necessary, according to the new candidates, that he’ll send a hell of a chocolate bar and a tress with a scythe to hell
    2. +4
      14 May 2014 11: 01
      Quote: GrBear
      The article is not devoid of common sense. Legal casuistry is the strong point of liberals. To sign any paper, on the one hand, with legitimate, but former, representatives of the EU and with a recognized prezik of Ukraine, but not legitimate, on the other, is a legal problem that will give the right to "poke his nose" for many years.

      That's right ...
      As well as the fact that the "democratic elections" have already been "recognized" in advance by Gay-Conchita-ropa and mattress.
      Therefore, baronesses with crooked teeth and rabbits-romanes-egg-laying are in such a hurry to confirm this fact in advance.
      But I think that after 25.05. there will be fuss and noise about legitimacy, etc.
      The final in the dispute will put a stop on gas supplies to the junta of Russia.
      The lack of gas cannot be explained by its legitimacy, or its absence.
      1. AVV
        +1
        14 May 2014 11: 21
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The final in the dispute will put a stop on gas supplies to the junta of Russia.
        The lack of gas cannot be explained by its legitimacy, or its absence.

        One conclusion is that non-legitimate elections should not take place, but how to do it is the details and headache of the relevant structures !!! And the people will only be for !!!
  5. +4
    14 May 2014 08: 24
    Anyway, when the elections in Ukraine, there will be such a fight among the Maydan people that they won’t have a couple of months!
  6. +2
    14 May 2014 08: 26
    After reading the article, another question arose, is this related to these, if we take into account the Nazi supporters coming to power in Kiev:
    The Supreme Court of Greece allowed the neo-Nazi party "Golden Dawn" to participate in the May elections to the European Parliament. The decision was made despite the fact that criminal cases were instituted against the majority of representatives of this party under the article “murder”.

    And this is due to the fact that party members are accused of creating and managing a criminal organization that deals with attacks on immigrants and members of competitive parties.
    Also observed in Germany
    The German constitutional court abolished the rule according to which parties had to collect at least 3% of the vote in order to get into parliament. There will no longer be any threshold, so parties will only need about 1% of the vote to get one of Germany’s 96 seats in the European Parliament.

    Really, someone decided and is working hard towards the creation of 3-his Reich!
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 08: 55
      Quote: Ruswolf
      After reading the article, another question arose, is this related to these, if we take into account the Nazi supporters coming to power in Kiev:
      <...>
      Also observed in Germany
      <...>
      Really, someone decided and is working hard towards the creation of 3-his Reich!

      Not the Third Reich, but the Third World.
      1. +3
        14 May 2014 09: 35
        Al_lexx
        Not the Third Reich, but the Third World.

        Alex Greetings hi
        Who cares?
        The only question is who will be the third empire of death!
        There will be no "Reich" there will be no war! Empires need territories and slaves! The USA is trying hard on this "crown".
  7. +10
    14 May 2014 08: 29
    Ukraine is just a bargaining chip, husk underfoot! The Yankees have always "raked in" the heat with someone else's hands! That's why they are furious that in many ways the course of events did not follow the patterns they wrote! Nothing, they will go crazy! There are other "players" on the world stage! Which you have already "written off" as incompetent! laughing
  8. JoylyRoger
    +1
    14 May 2014 08: 29
    their choice of love will take place, even those locked up in the same prison cell, awaiting the execution of the sentence, a fat little bit and the company will still carry them out, among themselves
  9. +2
    14 May 2014 08: 29
    Common thought in the article ... good
  10. +2
    14 May 2014 08: 30
    On May 24, mass suicide is junted. You give
  11. +4
    14 May 2014 08: 31
    M. Leontyev correctly noted in “However,” that the EU and US elections will be recognized as valid even if Poroshenko alone comes to them. This is such a democracy lol
    1. Alex 241
      +27
      14 May 2014 08: 34
      Quote: pexotinec
      Here is such a democracy
  12. +31
    14 May 2014 08: 33
    "Fun" . Putin is blamed for all the nonsense. I am already tired of opening my eyes to colleagues and neighbors. Already the enemy - pack your bags and leave for Russia. Fuck you, I'll sit here, and let me be 3-waited mos.lem, I will talk to the blind people.
    1. +5
      14 May 2014 08: 52
      If you try hard for a long time, even pigs begin to sort out the beads. Especially when the food runs out.
    2. +1
      14 May 2014 09: 44
      Well done, God help you.
    3. +1
      14 May 2014 14: 08
      I was already tired of opening my eyes to colleagues and neighbors.
      You can’t beat the whip with your butt. Until you feel all the charms of the power of ghouls on your own skin and are convinced of its deceit yourself, there is nothing to be done
  13. +3
    14 May 2014 08: 41
    We won’t be able to prove anything to the zombie population, it’s the same as talking to the deaf-blind, no matter what you say, don’t prove, you will hear back, you are enemies of Ukraine and want to destroy the Ukrainian people.
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    2. 0
      14 May 2014 14: 15
      We won’t be able to prove anything to the zombie population, it’s the same as talking to the deaf-blind, no matter what you say, don’t prove, you will hear back, you are enemies of Ukraine and want to destroy the Ukrainian people.
      This is exactly what ex-President Kravchuk said in an interview with Vestifm ​​radio yesterday - Russia and its special services are killing and rape in Ukraine. One of the participants in the "round table" (and what will they agree on at this table?), A politician of this rank repeats the inventions of the Ukrainian media, what to expect from ordinary Ukrainians?
  14. Tanechka-clever
    +4
    14 May 2014 09: 07
    Now it’s clear why it is May 25th and why they must take place.
    And the bright future of the "square" is understandably nothing to do with it - they would not have missed their "bright future" in the EU and the US after this period. The US ordered the EU and set a deadline - and orders of the commanders-in-chief, as you know, are not discussed, but executed.
    I liked the truthful article in AIF 12:08 05/05/2014 Andrei Sidorchik - he writes the following:
    ".. Punishers who committed crimes during the Great Patriotic War justified their crimes by caring for their own skins. Like, if we had not burned people with whole villages, the Nazis would have destroyed ourselves ... The" Ukrainian Aryans "who burned people in Odessa did not It was a deliberate desire to destroy "subhumans", caused only by adherence to the ideology of Nazism and nothing more ... All negotiations with Nazism, all agreements with him are only a temporary reprieve of a radical solution to the issue ... And that means, brought up in bliss and Warmer generation will have to go through what the grandfathers and great-grandfathers went through. "

    At one time, German Nazism was also actively encouraged by large capital in Europe - the goal is the same - to enslave and pacify those who create goods in the world - workers and peasants - the methods for this can be different, but Nazism is the most correct in solving it. The EU certainly does not want to, but you can’t argue against the USA. For the EU, it is better if the United States succeeds in pushing Russia against Russia, and for the USA it is better to push the EU as tightly as possible with Russia. The EU rests on US pressure as best it can, and Russia is trying as hard as possible to maintain a solution at the diplomatic level.
    Russian fairy tales are full of folk wisdom and I would say to the USA "The morning of the evening is wiser."
    May 25th will come May 26th and the people in Kiev might wake up by that time - the Ukrainians had not fought against fascism for nothing - it’s easier to start a war in Ukraine than to stop it later - not everyone needs an EU visa stained with the blood of innocent citizens of your country. Only the relations of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia towards European values ​​have already changed and this is not yet evening - there is something to lose in both Europe and the USA
  15. yulka2980
    0
    14 May 2014 09: 07
    So they need to somehow disrupt the elections! Arrange somewhere in New York on the second of September 11, so that not the civilian population suffers, but the whole White House feel So to speak, let's divert attention to the other side of the "ball"
  16. +1
    14 May 2014 09: 07
    It is unambiguous to disrupt the elections, to arrest the huntens, and to judge the State Department and the Geyropa in absentia with them ...
  17. 0
    14 May 2014 09: 09
    As always ... the nuances and details determine the big picture ... there are no random dates and actions in politics
  18. +1
    14 May 2014 09: 15
    The funniest thing will start when they pull Western Ukraine to pieces. Wishing there - a lot laughing Every referendum has its own referendum! NATO peacekeepers, tens of thousands of OSCE volunteers. To possess!
  19. +6
    14 May 2014 09: 22
    I am afraid that very soon this casuistry will no longer interest anyone. Who, with whom, what, when and for what signs - is it really that important when the confrontation grows?
    Illegal power arms the radicals and allows them to arm themselves; the people also arm themselves in response; punitive actions are being taken against the people - what is this - will no longer be after the presidential election and the signing of something there ?? In my opinion, all this is just the beginning, and autumn in Ukraine will be very fun and militant! New Russia urgently needs to start and finish the construction of the state in the first place. First of all, it is necessary to create armed forces and expel all armed foreign formations from its territory.
  20. +2
    14 May 2014 09: 44
    Based on the article, it turns out that this Tymoshenko’s mum greatly interferes with the EU and the West!
    But everything is evident in the fact that Tymoshenko is gaining a price.
  21. +2
    14 May 2014 09: 47
    Russia has already won the Crimea, with the rest you can not rush. Well-fed years under Russia are coming to an end, "neat but poor + war" begins under Europe. It turns many brains into place. Well, and not in turns, nothing can be done, even if it does not come through the zhpu, science is powerless.
  22. +4
    14 May 2014 10: 03
    For some reason I’m sure that both Obama and Merkel have already prepared speeches where they congratulate Poroshenko on his election.
    1. 0
      14 May 2014 14: 21
      For some reason I’m sure that both Obama and Merkel have already prepared speeches where they congratulate Poroshenko on his election.
      And the cookies are already baked smile
  23. +2
    14 May 2014 10: 14
    Yes, the plot was turned up abruptly! If the May 25 elections are held, the West will have a free hand in providing all kinds of "assistance" to the "legitimate" president. And here they will not limit themselves! Too much money has been invested in the Ukraine project. Hence the conclusion that there should be no elections! An energetic offensive towards Kiev is needed. To enter the VI mode. Yulia does not have any chance of being a president now, which means she will push for the introduction of the regime.
  24. 0
    14 May 2014 10: 14
    Here are the wretched "Kiev authorities" on May 25, the elections fail even because of the martial law in the country, which, it seems to me, could have been officially announced for a long time. It is not possible to extend ATO to 4 regions, and after Donetsk and Lugansk, I am sure Kharkov and Odessa will not be silent.
    1. 0
      14 May 2014 14: 24
      after Donetsk and Lugansk, I am sure Kharkov and Odessa will not be silent.
      Why have they been silent for 3 days? Who knows the mood in these areas?
  25. Serg7281
    +1
    14 May 2014 10: 20
    The election of the President of Ukraine will take place on May 25. But this does not mean that on the same day the newly elected President will receive powers, the election commission must be given at least a day to count the votes, and we must not forget about the second round of elections. Or in Geyrop and the states, all the necessary protocols and other documents are signed and approved, and the elections have a purely publicity stunt ??? If so, what is the point of shouting about "the inadmissibility of obstructing the elections by Russia."
  26. 0
    14 May 2014 10: 41
    To do everything that is possible and impossible from us, explicitly and secretly, so that these elections do not take place.
  27. 0
    14 May 2014 11: 51
    It would seem like a connection, because the European Parliament is essentially a decorative, deliberative institution.
    But the dog is buried deeper.

    Thank you for the article. Good information explaining the tantrum of the West.
    Oh, this southeast. Tore off all plans to the west.
    The West has not been able to close this topic for half a year.
  28. +1
    14 May 2014 11: 55
    Quote: Barracuda
    "Fun" . Putin is blamed for all the nonsense. I am already tired of opening my eyes to colleagues and neighbors. Already the enemy - pack your bags and leave for Russia. Fuck you, I'll sit here, and let me be 3-waited mos.lem, I will talk to the blind people.

    It's all complicated and the result is not visible! How many times it was already - in the afternoon I laid out everything to the shelves, explained, convinced. In the morning a person comes to work - all over again. As if at night someone was de-energizing and reprogramming them. I think that it is better not to waste time and energy on those who are already over 20 and above (lost generations), but to work immediately with a new, younger generation.
  29. +1
    14 May 2014 12: 04
    Quote: Alexey N
    Who cares who. For the East Outskirts, everything is one

    Elections should not be held! But Russia should be nothing to do with! Well, officially, as it were. hi
  30. +1
    14 May 2014 12: 06
    Apparently, a decent number of parties will be elected to the European Parliament. "Eurosceptics". A Dutchman spoke on Euronews this morning representing just such a party. According to him, if such parties unite (and he definitely intends to join forces with the pariah Marie Le Pen, because he is sure that his party will enter the European Parliament), they will receive about 30% of the seats. I don’t know how their decision-making mechanism works there (more precisely: how many times I figured it out - the same number of times I forgot ... recourse ), but 30% is a value to be reckoned with.
  31. +3
    14 May 2014 12: 25
    That's right - Marine Le Pen is going to thoroughly grind this dovecote. hi
  32. +1
    14 May 2014 14: 13
    Yes, in fact, the election campaign will not exist. At the end of the election, pre-prepared bulletins, protocols of the election commissions were taken out and presented. It is clear that the elections are held not for the will, but rather for the achievement of certain goals of those who are not independent citizens. So the elections will be held in one round, turnout will be 50-55 percent, the candidate with 52-53 percent of the votes will win. After all, one fig that this president will pursue a policy written to him in the west. Only the first thing that awaits the president is a gas shutdown a week after the election. Unsuccessful course, yes ...
  33. +1
    14 May 2014 14: 24
    So some "Euro-parliamentarians" will end their political activities ... and they would obviously like to get a job in some kind of large corporation and master the Ukrainian market. Without elections, they will remain without work. Maybe Vladimir Vladimirovich them somewhere to work to attach. You look and the Euro-Union will start talking differently.
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  35. Nik S.U.
    +2
    14 May 2014 14: 37
    Not to converge a little. The president will be elected on May 25, and he will take office no earlier than a month later. That is, exactly after the first of July. Most likely, the new composition of the parliament may not recognize these elections themselves if they take place after July 1 and put all the efforts of the United States to dust.
  36. POZHOGAN
    0
    14 May 2014 14: 43
    May 13, 2014. Residents of Makeevka remove Ukrainian symbols from the city executive committee. Video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jSFlMJlCR9Q
  37. +4
    14 May 2014 14: 57
    Quote: Fin
    It is useless to explain if close relatives stop communicating because of this. The Ukrainian is stubborn by himself, until he enters into ... he will not believe anyone.

    plus Fin, really, until she enters. Our family has spouses like that. Her father and sibling don’t want to communicate with us, they called me and my parents Katz. Only because I am Russian, and Ukrainian wife. and she, too, katsa. suddenly became. Here are such things hi
    for the excursion-kats.ap (Ukrainian.) as a dac-like co.oz.el.That is how Ukrainians called Russian boyars for characteristic beards. Respectfully

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