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Rogozin announced a ban on the operation of GPS stations in Russia

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Deputy head of the Russian government, Dmitry Rogozin, announced the suspension of the operation of the stations of the American GPS satellite navigation system in Russia since 1 in June.
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  1. ReifA
    ReifA 13 May 2014 17: 43
    +123
    Russian sanctions? I hold it!
    1. Hans51
      Hans51 13 May 2014 17: 47
      +87
      It is high time! GLONASS drives!
      1. Duke
        Duke 13 May 2014 17: 53
        +57
        Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 13 May 2014 18: 10
          +84
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.

          O-P-A-A-A! Get Obama in the middle! After all, this is not the answer ... A RESPONSIBILITY !!!
          All the equipment ... requiring the input of coordinates for the aMers and their "sixes" only on GPS systems ... and this is all satellite navigation ... aviation ... After all, they normally won't even be able to point the Tridents at objects ... B-52 and B1 will not reach us!
          And what a blow to firms that produce all kinds of smartphones .... After all, they will not be certified for import into the territory of Russia ... What "FE" they will now express to Obamushka! And this is just so ... at a glance conclusions ...
          Yeah! This is the real answer !!!
          1. crazyrom
            crazyrom 13 May 2014 18: 27
            +65
            Quote: Duke
            kind not symmetrical answer.

            Actually symmetrical, these bastards did not allow us to install the same stations for Glonass on their territory (that is, we did not spend money on installing the stations), and now they will close 17 of their stations in Russia (that is, they spent money on 17 stations and nothing) Buhahahhaha
            1. gfs84
              gfs84 13 May 2014 20: 29
              +31
              Well, there he suggested not only the ZhPS stations to be cursed, but also to turn off the work on the ISS after 2020 and rocket engines only for non-military launches to be sent to them ...

              Starting June 1, 11 terrestrial American GPS stations will be suspended in Russia. According to Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, if negotiations with the United States on the deployment of GLONASS stations in the United States are not completed, the operation of GPS stations will be permanently discontinued. In addition, the Russian side does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station (ISS) after 2020, as the United States had previously requested.


              The Deputy Prime Minister also added that Russia introduces a ban on the use of rocket engines, which it supplies to the United States to launch military satellites. “We will proceed from the fact that without guarantees that our engines are used only to launch non-military spacecraft, we cannot supply them to the United States,” said Dmitry Rogozin.


              NASA is probably already in a panic ...
              But the Romanians think that if Rogozin keeps his promises, then he can fly to them on the TU-160 ...
            2. Jurkovs
              Jurkovs 14 May 2014 08: 36
              +2
              Neither we nor we can do without such stations. Therefore, they will agree, quite symmetrically.
              1. Irkit
                Irkit 16 May 2014 04: 51
                +2
                Here is the answer to your point of view;)
          2. avg
            avg 13 May 2014 18: 28
            +23
            The first to whom the face is skewed in surprise will be pi.n.do.sovskie mercenaries. what
          3. Horst78
            Horst78 13 May 2014 19: 44
            +10
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            And what a blow to companies that produce all kinds of smartphones .... After all, they will not pass certification for import into the territory of Russia ...

            Yes, do not care about the company. Without stations in our vast territory, all GPS on 1 / 4 (or so) will become +/- 50km accurate. By the way, they had not previously allowed Our GLONASS stations to be installed on their territory.
          4. lelikas
            lelikas 13 May 2014 19: 45
            +11
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            O-P-A-A-A! Get Obama in the middle! After all, this is not the answer ... A RESPONSIBILITY !!!
            All the equipment ... requiring the input of coordinates for the aMers and their "sixes" only on GPS systems ... and this is all satellite navigation ... aviation ... After all, they normally won't even be able to point the Tridents at objects ... B-52 and B1 will not reach us!
            And what a blow to firms that produce all kinds of smartphones .... After all, they will not be certified for import into the territory of Russia ... What "FE" they will now express to Obamushka! And this is just so ... at a glance conclusions ...
            Yeah! This is the real answer !!!


            Well, I completely agree with the first part - and the second nonsense - in smartphones what to put to a light bulb,
            and when did the certification of someone stop us? -personally the owner of four gray smarts, and our motorists and tourists will suffer more because of the deterioration in GPS accuracy.
            Glonass does not shine on her.
            1. VAF
              VAF 13 May 2014 21: 39
              0
              Quote: lelikas
              Well, I completely agree with the first part


              Silent scene belay ..that with what is the first part you agree and WHAT ???? wassat
              1. lelikas
                lelikas 14 May 2014 01: 06
                +1
                Quote: vaf
                Silent scene .. is this the first part with which you agree and WHAT ????

                Now people need to be softer, and look at questions more broadly ... :)
                1. papik09
                  papik09 15 May 2014 09: 28
                  0
                  Quote: lelikas
                  Now people need to be softer, and look at questions more broadly ... :)

                  It is necessary to express correctly "softer", "WIDER" repeat hi
            2. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 14 May 2014 12: 09
              +11
              Tourists due to deterioration in GPS accuracy.
              As a tourist with experience, I’ll say that I spat on GPS. In the mountains in my entire life I have never managed to lose my orientation by more than 100 meters and 10-15 minutes. And even more so get lost. Even in thick clouds (this is when you are in the mountains inside a cloud and visibility is 50 meters or less).
              For this, there is enough knowledge on orientation from the course of natural sciences for the 4th grade of a secondary school (Soviet school), the elementary presence of a brain, and observation throughout the route. Believe me. And a topographic map to help you.
              Lazy, damn it, to impossibility.
              A GPS navigator on a trip is most often convenient crap. Because while he is working, he eats batteries like a tractor diesel fuel. The best branded fresh batteries last for a maximum of 5-6 hours. And this is in ideal conditions: warm weather, dry, etc. In cold weather, battery capacity drops dramatically. And as the batteries run out, then this is crap, what to carry and transfer from pocket to pocket is angry, and throwing a toad crushes.
              I do not argue, somewhere in the open ocean or in the Arctic, where there are no landmarks it is needed. And in a land trip - nothing more than an addition. Not an optional addition at all.
              1. Kahlan amnell
                Kahlan amnell 15 May 2014 08: 38
                +4
                A year ago, she said:
                "It would be better if astronomy was returned to the curriculum, at least to a minimum, otherwise the" Pepsi generation "when asked what they will do if they get lost, they answer:" And what about the GPS? "Counter question:" And if the GPS breaks or fails - what then? "throws them into a stupor. belay That's it, comrades and gentlemen. "
                1. maximus
                  maximus 16 May 2014 11: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Kahlan Amnell
                  A year ago, she said:
                  "It would be better if astronomy was returned to the curriculum, at least to a minimum, otherwise the" Pepsi generation "when asked what they will do if they get lost, they answer:" And what about the GPS? "Counter question:" And if the GPS breaks or fails - what then? "throws them into a stupor. belay That's it, comrades and gentlemen. "

                  Gentlemen, I will say one thing, more often carry your offspring to nature and teach YOU to orient yourself on the ground!
                  1. Revolver
                    Revolver 16 May 2014 16: 27
                    0
                    Quote: maximus
                    learn orienteering
                    Yes, to hell with it, with orientation to the terrain, you will lose orientation - either GPS will tell you, or you will call for help on a mobile phone. But to those who have lost natural orientation and switched to non-traditional, no technology will help. This is Conchita.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 16 May 2014 10: 20
                0
                In the mountains in my entire life I have never managed to lose my orientation by more than 100 meters and 10-15 minutes.
                My wife suggested that I buy a GPS car, so I explained to her that someone who drives jeepies loses orientation skills, and the terrain is not remembered.
              3. maximus
                maximus 16 May 2014 10: 59
                0
                Quote: abrakadabre
                Tourists due to deterioration in GPS accuracy.
                As a tourist with experience, I’ll say that I spat on GPS. In the mountains in my entire life I have never managed to lose my orientation by more than 100 meters and 10-15 minutes. And even more so get lost. Even in thick clouds (this is when you are in the mountains inside a cloud and visibility is 50 meters or less).
                For this, there is enough knowledge on orientation from the course of natural sciences for the 4th grade of a secondary school (Soviet school), the elementary presence of a brain, and observation throughout the route. Believe me. And a topographic map to help you.
                Lazy, damn it, to impossibility.
                A GPS navigator on a trip is most often convenient crap. Because while he is working, he eats batteries like a tractor diesel fuel. The best branded fresh batteries last for a maximum of 5-6 hours. And this is in ideal conditions: warm weather, dry, etc. In cold weather, battery capacity drops dramatically. And as the batteries run out, then this is crap, what to carry and transfer from pocket to pocket is angry, and throwing a toad crushes.
                I do not argue, somewhere in the open ocean or in the Arctic, where there are no landmarks it is needed. And in a land trip - nothing more than an addition. Not an optional addition at all.

                I completely agree, the hunter himself with experience, tried a couple of times in FIG, he is not needed on land! And on small ponds such as Lake Pskov-Peipsi, not a small one, too!
            3. Ilkhan
              Ilkhan 15 May 2014 22: 23
              +1
              Quote: lelikas
              rather, our motorists and tourists will suffer because of a deterioration in GPS accuracy.

              Tourists should walk on maps and compass, not navigators, and motorists on a rut. Why should we suffer? How long have these navigators appeared in the country? Somehow lived without them ...
              1. maximus
                maximus 16 May 2014 11: 04
                0
                Quote: Ilkhan
                Quote: lelikas
                rather, our motorists and tourists will suffer because of a deterioration in GPS accuracy.

                Tourists should walk on maps and compass, not navigators, and motorists on a rut. Why should we suffer? How long have these navigators appeared in the country? Somehow lived without them ...

                How Columbus fucking America without GPS discovered) repeat
            4. Setrac
              Setrac 16 May 2014 10: 17
              +1
              Quote: lelikas
              but rather our motorists and tourists will suffer because of a deterioration in GPS accuracy.

              What is the difference between motorists driving with an accuracy of a few centimeters, or with an accuracy of several meters?
          5. VAF
            VAF 13 May 2014 20: 34
            +20
            Quote: KazaK Bo

            O-P-A-A-A! Get Obama in the middle! After all, this is not the answer ... A RESPONSIBILITY !!!
            All the equipment ... requiring the input of coordinates for the aMers and their "sixes" only on GPS systems ... and this is all satellite navigation ... aviation ... After all, they normally won't even be able to point the Tridents at objects ... B-52 and B1 will not reach us!


            A little cold water from a bucket .. to "lower the degree of shrieking" wassat

            1. Entering the coordinates of the route (PPM, OK, etc.) as well as targets (strike objects) is entered on the BASE (!!!) request )
            2. Correction of CPS SYSTEMS in connection with their highest accuracy is extremely rare. So it is quite possible to carry out extreme correction over the territory of gayropa. Well, and then only the goal.
            3. There are still ways to correlate navigation and aiming systems, except GPS

            Well, etc. This is purely from a military point of view of the issue !!! soldier
            1. user1212
              user1212 14 May 2014 05: 10
              +5
              Quote: vaf
              Correction of CPS SYSTEMS in connection with their highest accuracy is extremely rare

              Signal correction is PERMANENT. The ground station determines the distance to the satellite and corrects the variables in the algorithm for calculating the distance from the satellite to the receiver (navigator).
              Quote: vaf
              I hope you will understand .. what the FUCK you "wrote" in your comments
            2. Moore
              Moore 14 May 2014 07: 15
              +3
              Add to this that the nuclear submarines with the Tridents and the strategic bombers both used their GPS and will continue to use it - it is not necessary to locate it on Russian territory to determine the coordinates of the missile launch point.
            3. zulusuluz
              zulusuluz 14 May 2014 20: 46
              +2
              That is why the tomahawks in Yugoslavia did not get where they needed to - they just jammed GPS.
              PS And from the "military" point of view: you are flying in an airplane, coordinates, speed and other information you know. Why don't the missile bombs hit?
            4. SVT
              SVT 15 May 2014 12: 32
              +1
              yeah, people forget that back in the 70s, that is, LONG before the introduction of GPS navigation, INTER-CONTINENTAL missiles were flying quietly, up to a distance of 15 km, and nothing, quietly got where they needed to, and the bombers reached the target just as calmly , heard about gyroscopes on the same rockets? So they just do not care on GPS, they stupidly IRON! and missiles on gyroscopes alone, quietly taking off from Plesetsk, calmly hit targets in Chukotka, or where the command orders.
              Also, when firing volley systems, gunners-gunners hiccups bring the ability to calculate data for firing using only gyroscopes, a ruler, and a map of the area.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 16 May 2014 10: 22
                +1
                Quote: Svt
                INTER-CONTINENTAL missiles were flying quietly, at a distance of up to 15 km, and nothing, quietly got to the right place

                They fell to the accuracy of several kilometers, for non-nuclear high-precision weapons this is unacceptable.
            5. maximus
              maximus 16 May 2014 11: 05
              0
              Quote: vaf
              Quote: KazaK Bo

              O-P-A-A-A! Get Obama in the middle! After all, this is not the answer ... A RESPONSIBILITY !!!
              All the equipment ... requiring the input of coordinates for the aMers and their "sixes" only on GPS systems ... and this is all satellite navigation ... aviation ... After all, they normally won't even be able to point the Tridents at objects ... B-52 and B1 will not reach us!


              A little cold water from a bucket .. to "lower the degree of shrieking" wassat

              1. Entering the coordinates of the route (PPM, OK, etc.) as well as targets (strike objects) is entered on the BASE (!!!) request )
              2. Correction of CPS SYSTEMS in connection with their highest accuracy is extremely rare. So it is quite possible to carry out extreme correction over the territory of gayropa. Well, and then only the goal.
              3. There are still ways to correlate navigation and aiming systems, except GPS

              Well, etc. This is purely from a military point of view of the issue !!! soldier

              I completely agree +
          6. VAF
            VAF 13 May 2014 21: 36
            0
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            All the equipment ... requiring the input of coordinates for the aMers and their "sixes" only on GPS systems ... and this is all satellite navigation ... aviation ... After all, they normally won't even be able to point the Tridents at objects ... B-52 and B1 will not reach us!


            In addition, a little more ... "cold water", already without my text ... just a photo ...



            I hope you will understand .. what the FUCK you "wrote" in your comments wassat
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 13 May 2014 22: 46
              +12
              Quote: vaf
              In addition, a little more ... "cold water",
              Seryozha, hi! Well, you, as always, in your role: you lower our civic audience from heaven to sinful earth. You tell them more about astro correction - they’ll completely wither! Do not disappoint the average person, he is already sick of our everyday life!
              But in essence. The possibility of TERCOM over our plain is very limited, and we will fix the time delay for the satellites, watch and the dream of an instant global impact will be covered with a copper basin.
              About sanctions.
              Wrong leg raised, idiots! This is not Honduras, but the 1 / 6 part of the land, !!!
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 14 May 2014 12: 15
                +7
                Wrong leg raised, idiots! This is not Honduras, but the 1 / 6 part of the land, !!!
                Shamanov’s comment about including him in the banned list was especially amused by the news yesterday.
                As he said, if the minister of defense or the supreme commander gives the order, he will go to America.
                wassat
                Gyyyy. He still very tactfully expressed this ... As they say, tanks do not need visas.
          7. EvgenSuslov
            EvgenSuslov 14 May 2014 11: 13
            0
            Well, "Fe" they will express not Obamushka but us. The Russians are always to blame for them. The solution is kaneshno wonderful, but I have little idea of ​​how it will actually be implemented.
          8. subbtin.725
            subbtin.725 14 May 2014 15: 09
            +2
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            O-P-A-A-A! Get Obama in the middle! After all, this is not the answer ... A RESPONSIBILITY !!!

            Rogozin the milkman, knows how to prick.
          9. SVT
            SVT 15 May 2014 12: 20
            +1
            Do not rush to rejoice, ground stations are needed FIRST for aligning satellites, without ground bases you can still safely receive data from ... SATELLITE,
            So the missiles will fly, and the bombers, both them and ours, will fly quietly. and the error will never be + - 50 km, as some indicate, it’s another matter that in the event of a conflict, the USA can SOFTWARE change the error in the direction of increase, which has already been repeatedly noted

            "Experts: the suspension of GPS stations in Russia will not affect the work of navigators
            A possible suspension of the work of American stations for transmitting GPS signals in Russia will not affect the operation of navigation devices in the Russian Federation. This opinion was expressed by experts in the communications industry, commenting on the statements of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

            "User devices will continue to work. If Russia turns off the ground system, this will only lead to an increase in the level of error," said Denis Kuskov, director of the Telecom Daily analytical agency, to ITAR-TASS. In his opinion, nothing threatens Russia, even if the United States, on its own initiative, wants to stop the work of GPS on the territory of the country, turning off not the ground, but the space component of the system. "The authorities and state structures have long switched to GLONASS, they are out of danger," said Kuskov, noting that the Russian navigation system is already close to perfection and may well become an alternative to the American GPS.

            As for ordinary users, then, according to the expert, they are also not in danger. Most new mobile phones support both navigation systems. "Now 90% of smartphones in the hands of Russians support GPS, and 10% support GLONASS, but this ratio will gradually change in favor of the Russian system," Kuskov said.

            So it’s not so simple, in America our Glonas works quietly even without ground stations, so we can do without stations on their territory, and they are without bases on ours.
          10. rauffg
            rauffg 15 May 2014 15: 56
            +2
            it will not affect smartphones and navigators; they both worked and will work. initially on civilian devices there is a tab for incorrect location, so that such a device could not be used for military purposes, for example by subversive groups for target designation. ZhePeS stations work to monitor the orbital constellation.
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        3. Alex_sw4
          Alex_sw4 13 May 2014 18: 24
          +17
          Symmetric. They refused to host our stations.
          1. Sterlya
            Sterlya 13 May 2014 18: 32
            +4
            Quote: Alex_sw4
            Symmetric. They refused to host our stations.

            It was high time. they refused us, referring to the fact that with their help Russia could more accurately direct missiles. Interesting, right?
            1. SVT
              SVT 15 May 2014 12: 40
              +1
              fool STRATEGIC INTERCONTINENTAL ROCKETS DO NOT FLY ON GPS, otherwise, in the event of a war, the very first NEUTRON burst over its territory will lead to the fact that NOBODY WILL FLY ANYWHERE! missiles have passive guidance that is introduced at the base, at launch, either in advance, or BEFORE take-off and then their flight, in principle, DOES NOT REQUIRE adjustments, they were SPECIALLY made so that in the event of DESTROYING the control center, the missiles that took off would fly in ANY case. system PERIMETER, or "dead hand" in Yusovski you know about at least?
              or do you propose to threaten America with overwhelming superiority at sea with short-range missiles (where GPS data can be used)? why is the sea so important? so you still have to swim to America to use small-radius missiles, that is, up to 500 km., since medium-range missiles, there are up to 2500 km, and we and the Americans destroyed on START -1.
            2. kuzia-roker
              kuzia-roker 15 May 2014 17: 38
              +1
              for yards and poplar m, such accuracy is not needed (25 meters)! Yes, and they are not guided by glonas and GPS
          2. askarlad
            askarlad 13 May 2014 21: 11
            +4
            I've been thinking for a long time, and what is Russia silent about their response to glonas.
        4. nerd.su
          nerd.su 13 May 2014 18: 32
          +7
          Rather, a symmetrical answer. They do not allow Glonass station to be installed on their territory, and we, accordingly, drove them with our own. And sanctions are only an additional incentive.
          The action, by the way, is not indisputable. If the United States, under the pretext of the lack of ground stations, reduces the accuracy of topographic receivers, a rollback may occur in the field of topography. About our then mass instruments for surveying is not heard yet.
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 13 May 2014 18: 57
            +6
            Quote: bot.su
            About our then mass instruments for surveying is not heard yet.

            They will fix it)).
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 13 May 2014 20: 32
              +2
              Yes, knowing our reality, they would rather abandon the "plates" and confine themselves to tacheometers, well, if electronic ...
              However, hardware and software manufacturers also have no reason to lose profits. Somewhere they will press, somewhere they will lobby, somewhere they will improve the characteristics. Progress cannot be stopped.
        5. mamont5
          mamont5 13 May 2014 18: 57
          +12
          Quote: Duke
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.


          And here is the continuation of the banquet:
          "The Deputy Prime Minister also noted that Russia does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station after 2020, as it plans to direct resources to other promising space projects."
          http://izvestia.ru/news/570735
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 14 May 2014 12: 17
            +1
            Russia does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station after 2020
            But it will be enough to undock the Russian modules and transfer them to another orbit. As a full-fledged separate orbital station. Well, delivery ...
            Let the rest of the ISS do what they want
            wassat
        6. evgenii67
          evgenii67 13 May 2014 18: 58
          +2
          I don’t understand your euphoria, we have GLONASS that works awesomely, we have a drone that can work on GPS and supposedly GLONASS, but it’s only
          1. Kapitänleutnant
            Kapitänleutnant 13 May 2014 20: 01
            +3
            GLONASS works as it should, with differential correction stations accuracy of 5 meters.
        7. Wedmak
          Wedmak 13 May 2014 19: 01
          +3
          Yes, the answer is kind and symmetrical. But this will not leave GPS work in Russia. These stations are designed to correct satellite signal parameters and control. This improves the accuracy of the entire system.
          We are waiting for the US response to this, it’s very interesting what they say.
          1. Echelon
            Echelon 14 May 2014 08: 08
            +1
            As a person who understands this a little and is a little aware of the events, I can say that 7-8 years ago there was a system called "no matter what", which in case of time "H" from the ground suppresses the signals of GPS satellites hanging on geostationary orbit. Although there are satellites in the GPS system that are in geosynchronous orbit, they are designed to correct the interaction of the orbital constellation of GPS satellites with each other and correct the orbits at a single altitude. It is the satellites in geosynchronous orbit that are the main key in this chain. And for them there are rockets, which are launched both from the ground and from planes.

            "... We have such devices, but we will not tell you about them ..."
            1. kosmos1980
              kosmos1980 14 May 2014 23: 24
              0
              As a person who does not understand a little more, I’ll say: KA Navigation systems DO NOT BROKE ON GEOSTATIONARY ORBIT, there are communication KA on it, and that’s not all. GPS devices are at an altitude of approx. 20000 km And these planes cannot be reached from airplanes - the maximum orbit on which it is theoretically possible to reach the spacecraft is about 1500 km. Only the operation of this system is not conducted. Frozen in prototypes.
              1. Echelon
                Echelon 15 May 2014 11: 43
                0
                Sorry, mixed up the orbits of communication and positioning.
                And about the elimination system of satellites flying on 1KS - there’s not a rocket, there’s a signal))
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        8. zennon
          zennon 13 May 2014 19: 02
          0
          Quote: Duke
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.

          How is it not symmetrical?
          “Since June 1, we have been suspending the work of these stations in Russia,” Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin told reporters.
          According to him, this will happen if an agreement is not reached on the deployment of GLONASS ground stations in the United States, RIA Novosti reports.
          “A working group of the Federal Space Agency of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has been formed. We are starting negotiations with the United States. We take 3 months for this, that is, until the end of summer. We hope that during these negotiations solutions will be found that will allow for the restoration of proportional cooperation, if not, then from September 1, the work of these stations will be completely stopped, ”Rogozin added.
          The Deputy Prime Minister also noted that Russia does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station after 2020, since it plans to direct resources to other promising space projects.

        9. APASUS
          APASUS 13 May 2014 20: 02
          +4
          Quote: Duke
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.

          Here you are so in vain.
          What is the answer?
          Connect to this equipment and case of what, just make a correction for 40-50 meters. In another option, just run the virus.
          And so we lose the instrument of exposure
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 13 May 2014 23: 08
            +7
            Quote: APASUS
            just amend for 40-50 meters. In another option, just run the virus.

            About the amendment. Can you imagine the radius of the crater from a ground explosion of a nuclear warhead with a capacity of 150-200 Kt? So 50 meters "will not be enough, however."
            About the virus. Not a specialist, but I believe that users are not stupid and have reliably closed their data line. Therefore, hackers will have to crack the protection of the week, and maybe months.
            Where is the way out? And it is very simple and extremely reliable - a powerful pulse of electromagnetic radiation will turn the satellite of the GPS system into a piece of unnecessary space debris.
            That’s all for a short time.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 14 May 2014 07: 17
              0
              a powerful pulse of electromagnetic radiation will turn the satellite of the GPS system into a piece of unnecessary space debris.

              There still needs to be delivered. In addition, some of the satellites behind the planet will "survive".
              1. Echelon
                Echelon 14 May 2014 08: 13
                +2
                In general, the charge is delivered from the earth at the speed of light, because this is EMP. Secondly, the satellites hang in a geostationary orbit (those that calculate the coordinates), and delivery from the other half of the ball through the space of the satellite to the territory of Russia at the expense of their own engines is not provided. The engines are designed only to correct the orbit.
                1. kosmos1980
                  kosmos1980 14 May 2014 23: 39
                  0
                  Spacecraft do not calculate your coordinates. The devices that you use (navigator, smartphone, etc.) do it. The more spacecraft (spacecraft) your device sees, the higher the accuracy. GPS spacecraft do not use geostationary orbit. And your navigator solves a simple trigonometric problem, the result of which is the coordinates of your location.
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        10. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik 14 May 2014 12: 41
          +4
          Quote: Duke
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.

          Continuing the theme:

          Rogozin: We are very worried about continuing to develop high-tech projects with such an unreliable partner as the United States.

          Dmitry Rogozin called the United States an unreliable partner. “We are very alarmed to continue developing serious high-tech projects with such an unreliable partner as the United States, which politicizes everything and everyone, and is ready to risk prospects that affect the interests of all mankind, and not just the United States,” said Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

          Therefore, according to him, the Russian government instructed the Federal Space Agency to intensify work with partners in the Asia-Pacific region. According to Rogozin, the Russian Federation will look for interesting projects with them for the development of near and far space.

          The Deputy Prime Minister recalled that the Russian side has repeatedly warned American colleagues that sanctions are a boomerang.

          At the same time, Rogozin noted that Russia is not going to impose sanctions.
        11. subbtin.725
          subbtin.725 14 May 2014 15: 07
          +1
          Quote: Duke
          Here is a good, kind, not symmetrical answer.

          So far polite. Let's wait for the visit of GDP to China, something is brewing.
        12. yushch
          yushch 15 May 2014 11: 16
          +1
          This answer is just symmetrical. And essentially))
      2. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 13 May 2014 18: 18
        +16
        If not in the courses, then an agreement was signed yesterday with Iran on the deployment of the GLONASS station. Before that, only Brazil supported with us. And there are 4 countries in Antarctica.
        1. sniper
          sniper 13 May 2014 18: 25
          +6
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          And the attention is 4 country in Antarctica.
          Igor, please enlighten how to understand this ??? I’m without banter, but in all seriousness ....
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 13 May 2014 18: 34
            +5
            There are a lot of countries working in Antarctica. And each station has. Since Antarctica is a zone of "no country", then any of the stations can make a decision independent of their own government. I myself do not quite understand, even though a lawyer by education. But on RBC yesterday explained something like this.
            1. sniper
              sniper 13 May 2014 18: 41
              +2
              Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
              , then any of the stations can make a decision independent of its own government.
              Thank you, it’s just somehow strange ... That is, no guarantee has changed the composition of the station and the decision is no longer relevant?
              1. Reasonable, 2,3
                Reasonable, 2,3 13 May 2014 18: 46
                +4
                Nicholas, for which I bought for this and sell. I’m crawling on the Internet with cancer, maybe I’ll dig up, then I will unsubscribe.
                1. sniper
                  sniper 13 May 2014 18: 59
                  +3
                  Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
                  I’m crawling cancer on the Internet, maybe I’ll dig up, then I’ll unsubscribe.
                  Yes, it’s hardly worth spending time on purpose, for sure some guarantees are provided, the equipment is not cheap ... I just got this news off track, the first time I heard about the independent policies of the stations ... But anyway, thanks! good
              2. Dikson
                Dikson 13 May 2014 18: 51
                +4
                Quote: sniper
                The composition of the station and the decision is no longer relevant?

                No not like this. There, from the very beginning, if a country built a station, then it belongs to it ... As in the Navy, whose flag is raised, that country belongs to it.
                1. Reasonable, 2,3
                  Reasonable, 2,3 13 May 2014 18: 58
                  +6
                  Found a pancake. One in Novolazarevsky, 2nd in the territory of the US station, 3rd in the Argentine station. 4th in Brazil.
                  1. sniper
                    sniper 13 May 2014 19: 32
                    +2
                    Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
                    Found
                    Thank you! drinks
                2. sniper
                  sniper 13 May 2014 19: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Dikson
                  if the country has built a station, then it belongs to it ...
                  This is understandable, I just did not know that the station can make independent decisions, regardless of its country ... Somehow it doesn’t fit in my head ... However, it doesn’t matter, the main thing is that the equipment is installed and working there. ..
            2. CTEPX
              CTEPX 13 May 2014 18: 59
              +4
              Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
              any station can make a decision independent of its own government

              Chuvachka, who delivered the GLONASS equipment to one of the "any stations" in Antarctica, was given a Hero not so long ago)).
            3. Fanat1984
              Fanat1984 15 May 2014 18: 41
              0
              Are you a lawyer? stop You - h..lo, not a lawyer !!! The lawyer, before opening the mittens and blathering something, especially if he himself is not particularly up to date, MUST familiarize himself with the regulatory act that governs this !!! And what do the regulations on Antarctica say ??? Lawyer, damn it ... fool
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 13 May 2014 23: 28
          +1
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          And the attention is 4 country in Antarctica.

          Could you name more specifically COUNTRIES in Antarctica. Well, about New Swabia, I heard something, but about the other 3's ... please, enlighten the public!
          PS. You are typing a post - read it. then, perhaps, instead of "country" there will be "station". It will be more logical that way.
      3. VAF
        VAF 13 May 2014 20: 21
        +4
        Quote: Hans51
        It is high time! GLONASS drives!


        GLONAS, of course .. DOESN'T RULE, unfortunately, for now, but the fact that it's time to do at least something long ago is yes !!! soldier

        That's just the transit from Afghanistan why they do not stop or we are waiting for the next DECISION wink
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 13 May 2014 23: 36
          +2
          Quote: vaf
          That's just the transit from Afghanistan why they do not stop or we are waiting for the next DECISION

          These sanctions do not particularly bite, albeit unpleasantly. For transit, denyushka drips. We are not dill in order to block the Dnieper water to our detriment. But when serious business begins, then, I suppose, "the lights will be turned off." And amers will have to cut rounds at the sight of the Taliban.
      4. Cherdak
        Cherdak 16 May 2014 13: 21
        0
        Quote: Hans51
        It is high time! GLONASS drives!


        Slightly inspired ...
    2. AnaBat
      AnaBat 13 May 2014 17: 47
      +23
      It is necessary to implement GLONASS more yes GLONASS-enabled chips will not explicitly put mattresses in iPhones
      1. Canep
        Canep 13 May 2014 17: 53
        -5
        Quote: AnaBat
        GLONASS-enabled chips will not explicitly put mattresses in iPhones

        Of course they won’t, because they already put it.
        As it turned out, Apple’s new smartphone model - iPhone 4S - supports positioning not only using the American GPS system, but also using the Russian GLONASS. This is stated on the official website of the manufacturer.

        An amazing feature of the new product from Apple was discovered by meticulous smartphone fans who have carefully studied the full list of the device's characteristics. In the "Location" column, as it turned out, it is said that for positioning the smartphone uses GPS with support for geolocation data of the cellular network (assisted GPS), as well as GLONASS. In addition, the device, like counterparts from competitors from Apple, determines its location using Wi-Fi networks, cellular networks, as well as using the built-in digital compass.
        More details: http://sterlegrad.ru/world/16380-v-ayfonah-obnaruzhili-glonass.html
        Smartphones supporting GLONASS:
        Sony Ericsson Mini Pro, Nokia 800 Lumia, Nokia 710 Lumia, HTC Sensation XL, HTC Desire HD, HTC Rhyme, HTC Bass, HTC Titan, HTC Flyer, Huawei Ideos X5 PRO (sales in the Russian Federation since December 2011), Huawei Vision, since December 2011 and of course:

        iPhone 4S was the first mass smartphone, the manufacturer of which in the specifications declared support for GLONASS, along with the American navigation system GPS. Apple has added information about GLONASS support after the device entered the market, without revealing any implementation details, which raised experts' questions about its practical applicability.
        http://4pda.ru/2011/12/15/51519/

        And I can say briefly about Rogozin - balabol. It’s about the trampoline, then about the cruise in Europe on the Tu-160, but in fact - zero.
        1. Ased
          Ased 13 May 2014 17: 56
          +5
          Quote: Canep
          More details: http://sterlegrad.ru/world/16380-v-ayfonah-obnaruzhili-glonass.html


          Thanks for the reference. And then the guys are worried.
          1. Canep
            Canep 13 May 2014 18: 32
            -2
            Regarding GPS tracking stations, Rogozin said that 24 stations would be turned off from June 1 in response to the ban on the placement of GLONAS tracking stations in the United States. Of course, I'm in favor, but the fact that it was voiced by Rogozin raises doubts. There will be a side effect: GPS accuracy will decrease, and not only in Russia, I think its accuracy will be enough for navigators to work.
            1. VAF
              VAF 13 May 2014 21: 49
              -5
              Quote: Canep
              Regarding GPS tracking stations, Rogozin now said that starting June 24, 1 stations will be shut off in response to the ban on the deployment of GLONAS tracking stations in the United States


              Seryoga, yes there are no Amerov stations in our territory .. NO, well, and ours all the more.
              We are talking about geodetic stations of geologists who monitor the movement of continents, etc. wassat
              So you +! and your minuscule ... SHAME and .. in the SCHOOL run, and not with comments on IN wassat
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 13 May 2014 23: 42
                +1
                Quote: vaf
                So you +! and your minuscule ... SHAME and .. in the SCHOOL run, and not with comments on IN

                Serge, stop scaring the audience, otherwise the site will close: everyone will run to school for knowledge!laughing
              2. Canep
                Canep 14 May 2014 05: 38
                +4
                Serega hello. The GPS receiver determines its location using spatial triangulation. To do this, it measures the delay of the signal coming from the satellites or (that is) the distance to several satellites for which the orbits are known and on which the ultra-precise clocks are installed, that is, for its operation it is necessary to know the coordinates of all the satellites of the system at a given particular moment in time. In orbit, other celestial bodies act on the system’s satellites: the sun, moon, planets, asteroids and the atmosphere of the earth in the end. Because of this, the orbits of the satellites are constantly changing, and not by centimeters per year like that of the continents of the earth, but by meters or even tens of meters per month, ground-based tracking stations are used to make corrections to the operation of the system. I give this brief review especially for those who are not familiar with the principle of operation of navigation systems. Some characters here on the site with foam at the mouth proved that the system sends its coordinates to each specific receiver personally by SMS. Regarding the cons, I think that their reason is the lack of knowledge of the principle of GPS robots by the majority of members of the forum, and also because Rogozin is not a special authority for me.
                1. kosmos1980
                  kosmos1980 14 May 2014 23: 48
                  +1
                  Bravo! Laconic and competent. And then in the comments some of the navigation spacecraft will be launched on the geostationary, then the stars on the epaulettes from space are counted, or the view reconnaissance spacecraft "suspended" over some area.
              3. user1212
                user1212 14 May 2014 06: 05
                0
                Quote: vaf
                We are talking about geodetic stations of geologists who monitor the movement of continents, etc.

                Learn the mat part. Write nonsense as a humanist.
                Quote: vaf
                .ShAME and .. in SCHOOL running
                1. yulka2980
                  yulka2980 14 May 2014 08: 07
                  +2
                  Yes, a sapper with a boa constrictor needs to exchange mobile numbers and correspond there, since there are only "schoolchildren" on the site and it would not hurt to leave this dismissive tone No.
                  1. kosmos1980
                    kosmos1980 14 May 2014 23: 53
                    +1
                    So right in the case, especially the sapper. Schoolchildren are not schoolchildren, and after reading some comments I was a little shocked at how freely bodies move in low Earth orbit. Please do not be offended, but the truth is very sad.
        2. alper
          alper 13 May 2014 18: 14
          +11
          It's not about iPhones, but about the symmetry of measures. Ours was not allowed to build such stations in the United States, for which reason their stations should work with us.
          Well, GPS will not stop working from this, the accuracy of determination will only decrease if the phone has only one bare GPS.
        3. BYV
          BYV 13 May 2014 20: 45
          +1
          Quote: Canep
          Smartphones supporting GLONASS:

          In fact, there are MUCH more gadgets. You provide a link from the 2011-2012 year.
        4. silver_roman
          silver_roman 14 May 2014 13: 02
          0
          Quote: Canep
          And I can say briefly about Rogozin - balabol. It’s about the trampoline, then about the cruise in Europe on the Tu-160, but in fact - zero.


          Well, these are needed too. Romanians out after his plans for transit to the Tu-160 at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs immediately immediately in all seriousness asked for clarifications! piss guys however!
        5. AndreyS
          AndreyS 14 May 2014 14: 43
          +3
          Quote: Canep
          And I can say briefly about Rogozin - balabol. It’s about the trampoline, then about the cruise in Europe on the Tu-160, but in fact - zero.

          You are this ...! Speak, speak, but do not touch the trampoline !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Do not be like Ukrop junta, about the trampoline and TU-160, entot comrade wrote in social networks, and in Russia, social networks are not an official platform for expressing the opinion of the government. And the fact that Rogozin is joking over amers and geyropovtsev, I personally really like!
    3. I do not care
      I do not care 13 May 2014 17: 47
      +11
      This is the number ... A reference would be. I hope the solution will never have a return stroke ..
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 13 May 2014 17: 52
        +13
        I agree with all my heart. I wonder what damage they will suffer from this sanction.
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      3. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 13 May 2014 17: 53
        +5
        This is the number ... A link would be

        MOSCOW, May 13 - RIA Novosti. Starting June 1, Russia will suspend the operation of 11 GPS ground stations on its territory, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Tuesday.

        Russia is now continuing to create its own GLONASS geographic system. According to Rogozin, the United States refused to deploy a GLONASS signal correction station on its territory.

        "From June 1, we suspend the work of GPS stations," Rogozin said.

        He noted that by May 31, Russia will assess the behavior of American colleagues and their observance of the previously concluded agreements. Also, the Russian Federation "wants to understand what is the situation with the deployment of Russian GLONASS stations in the US."

        The deputy head of Roscosmos, Anatoly Shilov, previously stated that the accuracy of the GLONASS system in Russia may become less than one meter in 2014, when the Luch navigation signal correction system will start operating in full.

        Thus, the positioning accuracy of GLONASS and American GPS will become approximately comparable.

        РИА Новости http://ria.ru/technology/20140513/1007632861.html#ixzz31bU5LHu3
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 13 May 2014 19: 25
          +1
          Quote: Gomunkul
          that the accuracy of the GLONASS system in Russia may become less than one meter

          Probably not accuracy, but an error in determining the location ...
        2. VAF
          VAF 13 May 2014 20: 41
          +1
          Quote: Gomunkul
          that the accuracy of the GLONASS system in Russia may become less than one meter as early as 2014, when the Luch navigation signal correction system will start operating in full.


          Yes .. that’s just GPS working И in Russia, but GLONASS ONLY in Russia and then ... when it starts to work further on .....

          Quote: Gomunkul
          Thus, the positioning accuracy of GLONASS and American GPS will become approximately comparable.


          On the European territory of the Union .. "by the eyes" there was enough stationary RSDN. and in the southern regions and in the Far East, the mobile chains RSDN-10 ... accuracy ... in METER soldier
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 13 May 2014 21: 53
            +3
            Quote: vaf
            Yes..that GPS only works AND on the territory of Russia, but GLONASS ONLY on the territory of Russia and then ... when it starts to work further on .....

            Well, not so bad. The plane with Ivanov and Trunev, when he was the last Minister of Natural Resources, landed in Antarctica, using only GLONASS. So at least for navigation, the system can be used now. Again, when India or Vietnam enter into cooperation agreements with us in the field of navigation, they are counting not only on the distant future.

            Quote: vaf
            On the European territory of the Union .. "by the eyes" there was enough stationary RSDN. and in the southern regions and in the Far East, the mobile chains RSDN-10 ... accuracy ... in METER

            If this accuracy is sufficient for navigation, then there is no for applied geodesy. There, with static measurements, accuracy of up to 3-4 mm is achieved. And the exclusion of the ground segment (if stations that can send corrective signals get into it) can reduce the accuracy of the determination and make it insufficient for accurate topologies. And construction surveying, surveying and more - this is a huge segment of the market.
            1. VAF
              VAF 13 May 2014 22: 10
              0
              Quote: bot.su
              The plane with Ivanov and Trunev, when he was the last Minister of Natural Resources, landed in Antarctica, using only GLONASS


              I don’t know ... I didn’t attend. fellow anything is possible
              I had a chance to "visit" places "where Makar did not drive calves" and nothing .. as you can see, he is alive and well. Yes, and everyone who flew with me and are now flying .. well !!!
              And in those days they only heard about GPS, but there was no GLONASS and nothing ... in the usual way, and when they "grabbed" the Drive or ARP ... in general ... in the course way and landing with OSB.
              And not on a "bus" but on combat vehicles!

              Well, here in the comments and article the question just concerns the use of NAVIGATION for combat conditions, and not for peaceful purposes, although you are right. It’s precisely on the topic that we are talking about GEODESIC stations, +! drinks
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 13 May 2014 22: 34
                +2
                Yes, at one time they wrote a lot about this, for example, http://www.faito.ru/blog/?p=295 There are a couple of paragraphs about GLONASS. Although I agree, you can write that they’ve turned it off, you still have to believe a word smile

                It seems to me that pilots, especially the military, and now must be able to fly without any satellite systems. And, preferably, to hit ground targets or landing to land where necessary smile

                For combat conditions, it seems to me that an accuracy of 5-10 m is quite sufficient. And its GPS and without a ground segment in our territory will issue.
                But I'm not sure about geodetic stations. As I understand it, we are still talking about ground stations for tracking satellite constellation ...

                Well yes, to hell with them and for you and me drinks
                1. VAF
                  VAF 13 May 2014 22: 47
                  0
                  Quote: bot.su

                  It seems to me that pilots, especially the military, and now must be able to fly without any satellite systems. And, preferably, to hit ground targets or landing to land where necessary


                  It used to be. But now ... alas and ah ... JPC .. this is our everything crying

                  Quote: bot.su
                  For combat conditions, it seems to me that an accuracy of 5-10 m is quite sufficient. And its GPS and without a ground segment in our territory will issue.


                  Above the roof, +! and the ground segment is .. for cars and iPads with iPhones wassat

                  Quote: bot.su
                  But I'm not sure about geodetic stations. As I understand it, we are still talking about ground stations for tracking satellite constellation ...


                  We don’t have Amerovsky stations. soldier



                  It was about geodesic of ours, which were not allowed to be placed in the United States:


                  The Russian government does not have information about ground infrastructure for the United States' GPS navigation system in Russia, a deputy prime minister said.

                  However, Russia has hosted nine GPS-based ground stations since 1995 that transmit geodesic data back to global data centers, theoretically making it possible to improve positioning data.

                  But the stations do not provide real-time data and are only used to measure annual continental drift, a spokesman for the Geophysical Service of the Russian Academy of Sciences, which runs the stations, said Thursday.

                  Another more widespread type of GPS ground equipment is base stations, or simple receivers that improve positioning in a given area.

                  But base stations, which are routinely set up by local operators such as geodesic services or oil exploration expeditions, do not report back to satellites or global data networks.
                  1. Fanat1984
                    Fanat1984 15 May 2014 18: 42
                    0
                    We have American GPS stations !!!
          2. Recon
            Recon 16 May 2014 16: 51
            0
            Yes..that GPS only works AND on the territory of Russia, but GLONASS ONLY on the territory of Russia and then ... when it starts to work further on .....


            everything works fine in the North-Caucasian Federal District, the signal is clear, the error is minimal.
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      5. Serg 122
        Serg 122 13 May 2014 18: 03
        +3
        A link would
        In the news on channel 1, this news is now on
        1. anfil
          anfil 13 May 2014 18: 32
          +2
          Starting June 1, Russia will suspend the operation of 11 ground-based GPS stations and will continue to develop its own GLONASS geolocation system. About this with reference to Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin reports RIA Novosti.

          The politician explained that such a decision was a response to the refusal of the United States to host GLONASS stations. “A working group of the Federal Space Agency of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has been formed. We are starting negotiations with the United States. We are allocating three months for this, that is, until the end of summer. But no, then from September 1, the work of these stations will be terminated completely, "- quotes Rogozin as" Interfax ".

          Earlier, the deputy head of Roscosmos, Anatoly Shilov, stated that the accuracy of the GLONASS system in Russia could become less than one meter already in the 2014 year, which would make GLONASS comparable to GPS.

          Dmitry Rogozin also said that Russia does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station after the 2020 year, as the United States suggests. According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the Russian Federation plans to direct resources to other promising space projects.
          link: http: //www.rg.ru/2014/05/13/gps-anons.html
          “Rossiyskaya Gazeta” is a newspaper in Russian, the official press organ of the Government of the Russian Federation.
      6. DMB87
        DMB87 13 May 2014 18: 55
        +2
        Russia responded to US sanctions by banning the use of Russian rocket engines for US military launches and by refusing a US request to extend the operation of the ISS after 2020. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, reports Reuters.

        In addition, according to the Interfax news agency, from June 1 Russia suspends the work of American GPS stations on its territory.

        According to Rogozin, Russia can take such measures if it fails to agree with Washington on the deployment of its own GLONASS ground stations in the United States. Negotiations on this issue should begin soon. Rogozin also noted that if negotiations do not bring results, then from September 1 "the work of these stations (GPS) will be completely stopped."

        http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/russia-rolls-out-response-to-us-high-tech-sa
        nctions / 1913538.html
    4. Sid.74
      Sid.74 13 May 2014 17: 51
      +29
      Taki waited !!! good Rogozin hit the target !!! laughing
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      2. Aryan
        Aryan 13 May 2014 17: 56
        +1
        in or over the territory? what
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 13 May 2014 17: 59
          +9
          Quote: Aryan
          in or over the territory? what

          The stations in Russia will be closed and that’s all .. We have our own system (it’s time to develop and configure ..)
        2. 51064
          51064 13 May 2014 18: 41
          0
          And over the territory too - along with cruise missiles and other means induced by amers using GPS there will be difficulties - a rather subtle hint of Rogozin.
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    5. tehnoluks
      tehnoluks 13 May 2014 17: 59
      +30
      The strongest sanction of Russia - Medvedev abandoned the iPad!
      1. avt
        avt 13 May 2014 18: 20
        +10
        Quote: tehnoluks
        The strongest sanction of Russia - Medvedev abandoned the iPad!

        Yes, what are you !!!!! This is the last measure after the nuclear bombing of the USA. Then everything is already, the end, there will be no turning back!
      2. kolpak911
        kolpak911 13 May 2014 18: 44
        +3
        This means only one thing .. We will soon have over the iPhone "apple on a silver platter" or "light-mirror"
    6. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 13 May 2014 18: 01
      +6
      and we are against the sanctions of the West, we ourselves can carry out sanctions, and not only in relation to jeepies but also in space, Americans will fly on a trampoline as Rogozin said and much more.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 13 May 2014 18: 22
        +17
        Catch another news!
        Moscow. may 13. INTERFAX.RU - Russia does not intend to extend the operation of the International Space Station after 2020, as the United States suggests, since it plans to direct resources to other promising space projects, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin told reporters.
        "After 2020, we would like to divert these funds (directed to manned space exploration - IF) to more promising space projects," Rogozin said. He recalled that a third of the Roskosmos budget goes to manned astronautics.
        At the same time, the Deputy Prime Minister noted that "the Russian segment (ISS - IF) can exist independently of the American, the American segment cannot exist independently of the Russian one."
        According to Dmitry Rogozin, the dependence between Russia and the United States on the ISS project is mutual, but more from the point of view of the United States, since they do not have their own means of delivering astronauts to orbit.
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 13 May 2014 18: 35
          0
          Quote: Serg 122
          the American segment cannot exist independently of the Russian one. "
          I think that before the year 20, the Americans will have their own vehicle for delivering crews to the ISS. And Rogozin previously voiced the plans of the bulk of the Russian lunar colony in 2040. For this, money is pulled from other programs.
          1. DMB87
            DMB87 13 May 2014 18: 57
            +3
            The first test flight of the CST-100 ship, Boeing is going to complete at the beginning of the 2017 year, reports AstroNews. This was stated by Chris Ferguson (Chris Ferguson), the commander of the last shuttle flight, which is now among the leaders of the project to launch the manned Boeing capsule into space.

            Boeing has already reserved a launch pad at the launch site at Cape Canaveral, but details have not been disclosed.

            If the tests are successful, the first orbital test of the manned capsule is scheduled for mid-2017. It is assumed that two pilots will go on a flight to begin with.
    7. dorz
      dorz 13 May 2014 18: 20
      +4
      Not in the eyebrow - but in the eye ...
    8. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 13 May 2014 18: 34
      +3
      This is a long awaited serious answer. We must continue in the same vein. First of all, to withdraw from the agreement concluded without a UN Security Council decision to cancel the delivery of missile defense assets to Iran! And send there - if possible - C 400. They now will need more ...
    9. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 May 2014 18: 38
      +2
      Quote: ReifA
      Russian sanctions? I hold it!

      This is the first sanction so far, there will be something else later. Uncle Sam does not want to get a navigator from Glonass belay
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 13 May 2014 18: 58
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is the first sanction so far, there will be something else later. Uncle Sam does not want to purchase a navigator from Glonass belay


        I think BRICS (after the revelations of Snowden) will not mind switching to our Glonass system in the future. bully Rogozin is not without reason voiced it ..
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    10. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 13 May 2014 19: 02
      +5
      this is the second significant kick in a row ... and the coccyx will repulse the mattresses, our hockey is not democratic, now the navigator is ... drilled !!! trouble! laughing
    11. rainufa
      rainufa 13 May 2014 19: 55
      0
      "Manturov does not understand why to suspend the work of GPS stations in the Russian Federation"

      How can you not understand?

      http://ria.ru/technology/20140513/1007646047.html
    12. Army1
      Army1 13 May 2014 21: 11
      0
      The process has begun (in a good way)
    13. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 13 May 2014 23: 29
      0
      Quote: Hans51
      It is high time! GLONASS drives!


      It’s time, already, to include a large-scale jammer, and let them fly through the stars.
    14. 225chay
      225chay 13 May 2014 23: 48
      +1
      Quote: ReifA
      Russian sanctions? I hold it!


      Good news! Waited a long time ...
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 14 May 2014 10: 31
        0
        I agree ... the unfinished branch finally began to break off ... a pleasant fall striped
    15. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 15 May 2014 17: 46
      0
      Quote: Duke
      Russian sanctions? I hold it!

      still gas in winter homosexuals turn off let them warm their bodies am
    16. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 16 May 2014 11: 06
      0
      It would be better if the base in Ulyanovsk was covered, and the airspace for NATO aircraft.
  2. kocclissi
    kocclissi 13 May 2014 17: 44
    +18
    That's right! Nafig for nefig!
  3. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 13 May 2014 17: 45
    +2
    Very correct thing.
  4. pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB 13 May 2014 17: 45
    +2
    is there an alternative ???? is there a replacement for this GPS, or will we be blind kittens in unfamiliar areas?
    1. CARLSON
      CARLSON 13 May 2014 17: 51
      +10
      Nothing, you might think from childhood we were only guided by GPS and didn’t get lost. And so you look and we will quickly debug your GLONASS
      1. pavel_SPB
        pavel_SPB 13 May 2014 18: 09
        -1
        GLONASS is certainly good ... but it is still very damp ... and you need to cut it with a file
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 13 May 2014 18: 27
          +4
          Quote: pavel_SPB
          GLONASS is certainly good ... but it is still very damp ... and you need to cut it with a file

          If you do nothing ... then they will "cut with a file" ... now debugging and so on will only accelerate .. since, oops, we have arrived ... and this is only to the benefit of domestic producers.
          News +
        2. kolpak911
          kolpak911 13 May 2014 18: 47
          +5
          Well, we don’t get used to it, with a file then ..
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      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 13 May 2014 18: 54
        +7
        Quote: CARLSON
        Nothing, you might think from childhood we were only guided by GPS and didn’t get lost. And so you look and we will quickly debug your GLONASS

        Since childhood, we have been guided by a compass and a map. And nothing, they got lost.


        In general, the stormy joy of a bunch of readers in response to this news is surprising. A necessary measure, since there is tension between Moscow and Washington, and not only political. And correction stations are turned off precisely for military reasons. From t.zr. economies, states don't care about that. Who will suffer the most is migrant taxi drivers in large cities of Russia.
        On the other hand, GLONASS still needs to be cut and sawed. Moreover, it is precisely rockets that need to be sawed and bullet into space, since the GLONASS satellite constellation is still very small. For all these reasons, the use of our global positioning system for civilian purposes is still rather difficult, and in urban conditions it is almost impossible (accuracy is small).
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 14 May 2014 08: 48
          0
          Quote: Al_lexx
          From t.zr. economies, states don't care about that.

          Garmin, Trimble, Magellan Navigation and a few more far from small companies will not agree with you.
          Quote: Al_lexx
          Who will suffer the most is migrant taxi drivers in large cities of Russia.

          Not a gram will suffer, for automotive navigators accuracy will not drop critically.
      3. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 14 May 2014 00: 51
        +4
        Quote: CARLSON
        And so you look and we will quickly debug your GLONASS

        I didn’t go far. Just looked at Vick. You know: interesting damn it!
        "According to Reuters, employees of the Swedish company Swepos, which maintains a nationwide network of satellite navigation stations, recognized the superiority of the Russian GLONASS navigation system over the American GPS. According to Bo Jonsson, deputy head of the geodetic research division, GLONASS provides more accurate positioning in northern latitudes:" it (Glonass ) works slightly better in northern latitudes because its satellite orbits are higher and we see them better than GPS satellites. ”Jonsson said that 90% of his company's customers use Glonass in combination with GPS.
        The composition of the GLONASS KNS group on April 8 2014 of the year: [71]
        • Total in the GLONASS OG: 29 KA
        • Used for its intended purpose: 24 KA
        • At the stage of entry into the system: 1 КА
        • Temporarily withdrawn for maintenance: 0 KA
        • Orbital reserve: 3 KA
        • At the stage of flight tests: 1 SC "
        That's not cheap, but angry. Ground infrastructure is represented by the 14th station on the territory of the Russian Federation, the 1st station in Antarctica (PIS "Bellingshausen"). Until 2020, it is planned to deploy in addition to the existing ones: 8 stations in the Russian Federation, as well as in Cuba, Iran, Vietnam, Spain, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Australia, 2 in Brazil, and one more in Antarctica. To date, there are 19 GPS measuring stations located on the territory of the Russian Federation. According to the plans, it is necessary to increase the OG of the satellite from 24 to 30 spacecraft. The last Glonass-M spacecraft was launched into the Soyuz-2.1b orbit on March 24, 2014.
        The system currently provides a positioning accuracy of about 2,8m. With the use of 2 satellites of the "Luch" signal correction system, the accuracy increases to 1,0 m. It is planned to improve it by 2015 to 1,4m, and by 2020 - to 0,6m, followed by bringing it to 0,1m.
        1. zennon
          zennon 14 May 2014 19: 12
          0
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Ground infrastructure is represented by 14 st in the territory of the Russian Federation, 1 st in Antarctica (PIS "Bellingshausen")

          Everything is so Dear boa, with the exception of a trifle:
          April 11th. / ITAR-TASS /. In Brazil, the second GLONASS ground station is being prepared for opening; its functionality will differ from the station located last year in the same country.
          This was during a video bridge in ITAR-TASS, said the deputy head of the Federal Space Agency Sergey Savelyev.
          “Regarding GLONASS ground stations: indeed, last year the first station was installed in the Western Hemisphere, in Brazil, in the city of Brasilia, and I’ll tell you a little secret, another station is being prepared for opening in Brazil. Its functional purpose will be slightly different, ”said Savelyev. He informed that it is planned to deploy these stations in other countries, but so far the negotiations are complicated by the political situation.
          “The work is ongoing, negotiations are not stopping, we are ready to sign an agreement with one of the European countries, it has been agreed by all, but the political situation makes this work difficult,” the deputy head of Roscosmos emphasized.
    2. jayich
      jayich 13 May 2014 17: 51
      +4
      Glonas. The full satellite group is functioning. I can’t wait for our computers and phones on Elbrus.
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    4. yur
      yur 13 May 2014 17: 54
      +21
      Quote: pavel_SPB
      is there an alternative ???? is there a replacement for this GPS, or will we be blind kittens in unfamiliar areas?
      Please come to me, I’ll teach you. By an extraordinary coincidence, I’ve been without GPS for 63 years, but strangeness, I’ve never (or never!) Gotten anywhere. laughing
    5. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 May 2014 17: 56
      +3
      Quote: pavel_SPB
      alternative i.e.

      Glonass, firstly.
      And zhypyes - as usual (with accuracy in 50-100 meters). For the driver and the traveler, the accuracy of civilian navigation in these figures is not critical :)))
    6. anon8573
      anon8573 13 May 2014 18: 01
      +5
      Have you tried the map? I am an old-fashioned person and I use only cards.
      1. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 13 May 2014 18: 09
        +1
        Must be clarified - with topographic maps! Current youth knows only TARO cards! )))
      2. pavel_SPB
        pavel_SPB 13 May 2014 18: 12
        -3
        and the card is also good ... BUT ... why, then, did they give up the cards ??? oh yes back to the stone winked new century !!
    7. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 13 May 2014 18: 08
      +4
      15 years ago, almost everyone was without cell phones ... and nothing ... no one was lost!
    8. nerd.su
      nerd.su 13 May 2014 21: 02
      0
      Quote: pavel_SPB
      Is there a replacement for this GPS or how will blind kittens be in unfamiliar areas?

      How are the blind kittens? Are you banned by a topography textbook? Look at the map, see a fig? Not sure where the compass start button is?
  5. komrad.klim
    komrad.klim 13 May 2014 17: 45
    +3
    You are going the right way, comrades!
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  7. Old warrior
    Old warrior 13 May 2014 17: 45
    +3
    What are they all dobbc ... fool
  8. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 13 May 2014 17: 46
    +5
    Hmm ... It is interesting to hear the comments of motorists about broken navigators ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 May 2014 17: 48
      +21
      Quote: Old Cynic
      Hmm ... It is interesting to hear the comments of motorists about broken navigators ...

      The old fashioned way - by polling the local population, "Can you tell me how to get to the library?" fellow
      1. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 13 May 2014 17: 52
        -9
        This will remain, unfortunately ...
        Its not, alas. No, of course, in Moscow each GLONASS bus was installed, this is a fact. And what should Uncle Vasya do from the Italian village of Lotoshino, who barely scratched his last year's navigator (for example)?
        1. 51064
          51064 13 May 2014 18: 43
          +4
          I did not set a minus, but now the time is such that it is not up to Uncle Vasya. Almost a war.
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      2. serge siberian
        serge siberian 13 May 2014 18: 48
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        "Can you tell me how to get to the library?"

        as they say "the language will bring to Kiev" (old saying).
        1. rasputin17
          rasputin17 14 May 2014 13: 16
          0
          Quote: Serge Siberian
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          "Can you tell me how to get to the library?"

          as they say "the language will bring to Kiev" (old saying).

          And in the old days and brought to Magadan !! laughing
    2. UVB
      UVB 13 May 2014 17: 50
      +4
      Do you personally navigate the navigator? It seemed to me that blondes mostly use it. wink
      1. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 13 May 2014 17: 54
        +2
        I drive on the roads. If you are not a pro, drive in Moscow at rush hour, not knowing the blocked streets and traffic jams. And no need to jerk! Let first bring their own, native, Patriotic to mind! And just as a rocket does not fall - so with GLONASS satellites ...
        1. serge siberian
          serge siberian 13 May 2014 18: 52
          +2
          Dear. And it’s weak to travel at least a week on public transport, and the air is cleaner than the bigger ones, and the nerves are in order.
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      2. sniper
        sniper 13 May 2014 18: 32
        +2
        Quote: UVB
        that blondes mostly use it.
        In the work of a taxi, cargo transportation, but who knows where, if the work involves finding an address in an unknown area without a navigator, it is not at all easy ...
    3. I do not care
      I do not care 13 May 2014 17: 50
      +10
      Quote: Old Cynic
      motorists comments on broken navigators ...

      Buy atlases of highways of Russia and keep money in a savings bank laughing
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 13 May 2014 17: 58
        +24
        Buy atlases of highways of Russia
        But not early?
        1. I do not care
          I do not care 13 May 2014 18: 01
          0
          I clearly wrote-Russia, not Ukraine hi
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 13 May 2014 20: 14
            +1
            I clearly wrote-Russia, not Ukraine
            And due to whom else can the territory of Russia change? hi In the near future?
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 May 2014 18: 01
        +8
        motorists comments on broken navigators ...

        ... so I comment -
        zhypyes for civilian users both worked and will be with accuracy ranging from 25 meters.
        Ground stations are needed for higher accuracy of determination for military and special needs. And just ...
      3. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 13 May 2014 20: 00
        0
        Oh, Mlyn, there would be money, and where to store it - there are many options ... But, in any case, not with Gref!
    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 13 May 2014 17: 57
      +15
      Navigators do not use the signals of these ground stations. Stations are needed to adjust and clarify the position of satellites that transmit reference signals for these of your navigators. The satellite signal is broadcast in the direction. Satellites are not jamming ... until jamming. Just the accuracy of determining the coordinates will drop somewhat and that’s all. You, unlike the Tomahawks, do not need a few cm accuracy.
      It may be worthwhile to consider in the Sanitary-Epidemiological Supervision whether the signal levels of GPS satellites exceed the acceptable values ​​for our guests. Well, like there, the health of the citizens ... If they exceed and produce harmful electromagnetic radiation, declare this and suppress them fuck.
      Such a sanction will definitely prove to be very intelligible.
      wassat
      1. andj61
        andj61 13 May 2014 22: 22
        0
        Quote: abrakadabre
        You, unlike the Tomahawks, do not need a few cm accuracy.


        But the Tomahawks do not need GPS at all, they use other orientation systems, and when approaching the target they go above the surface with a relief envelope according to pre-installed programs.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 14 May 2014 11: 51
          0
          But the Tomahawks do not need GPS at all, they use other orientation systems, and when approaching the target they go above the surface with a relief envelope according to pre-installed programs.
          Do not confuse the ability of the Tomahawks to work without GPS and the complete uselessness of this system for the Kyrgyz Republic.
          If there is GPS - the accuracy will be maximum. Up to the famous entry into the window. There will be no GPS, it will fly according to the established program using an inertial system and additional aiming through the optical channel. Without GPS, the Tomahawk will of course fall into the target area, but the accuracy will certainly be lower. Unless the image of the target stored in memory matches perfectly with the visible one.
          For a cardboard shed, this is not important. And for the destruction of a well-protected object is very important.
          It’s violet for some Trident and Voivode, whether the warhead hits the target or a hundred meters to the side. For less powerful high-precision systems, maximum accuracy is very much needed.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 16 May 2014 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: abrakadabre
        If they exceed and produce harmful electromagnetic radiation, declare this and jam them to the fuck.

        What to suppress? Shoot the fuck all that radiates to Russia. soldier
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 16 May 2014 11: 56
          0
          Shoot the fuck all that radiates to Russia.
          Shoot down more expensive. On the other hand, it radically solves the problem of radiation. And finally wassat
    5. dvina71
      dvina71 13 May 2014 18: 02
      +2
      And what does the navigators have to do with it? They stop the work of stations, not the entire system. Stations are used to increase accuracy. GPS will work.
      1. Dmitry Toderes
        Dmitry Toderes 13 May 2014 18: 13
        -1
        Accuracy will be poor (to put it mildly) - stations on the territory of Russia do not use the bulldozer. Or the whole system can die, because these same stations (ground buildings) are designed to self-repair the system in the event of a failure.
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 14 May 2014 08: 18
          0
          Quote: Dmitry Toderese
          Accuracy will be poor (to put it mildly) - stations on the territory of Russia do not use the bulldozer.

          Explain in more detail. How and why will accuracy fall?
          And, especially, why can the whole system die?
    6. Ajax
      Ajax 13 May 2014 18: 21
      +5
      I have the built-in harmony + in the papillac and you know what I think about this? YES AND CHEW WITH IT !!! IN!
      1. serge siberian
        serge siberian 13 May 2014 18: 56
        +2
        Quote: Ajax
        garmine navy + in the papillac built

        But in Russian translation, what does it look like?
        1. I read the news
          I read the news 13 May 2014 19: 29
          +2
          Quote: Serge Siberian
          But in Russian translation, what does it look like?

          foreigner chole?

          Garmin + Nuvi navigator integrated in a personal vehicle.
    7. nerd.su
      nerd.su 13 May 2014 22: 47
      0
      Yes, accuracy of +/- 50 m is enough for a car navigator. And such accuracy GPS will give out even if a third of the satellites are snapped out (evenly, of course), and the exclusion of ground stations in our territory will not affect at all, do not worry.
  9. Giant thought
    Giant thought 13 May 2014 17: 47
    +4
    Well done! For a long time it was necessary to stick a figure of three fingers under the nose to the mattresses. Bravo!
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  11. Roman1970
    Roman1970 13 May 2014 17: 47
    +2
    That's right, but how will this affect navigation? It is clear that there is GLONASS, but it doesn’t seem to be working at full capacity? Or do the stations mean little? Who is in the know?
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 13 May 2014 17: 51
      +2
      on the territory of Russia it seems to work completely.
      1. Roman1970
        Roman1970 13 May 2014 17: 57
        +2
        It turns out that the GPS navigator will have to be thrown away ... Well, or reflash to GLONASS, if possible ... In general, if this is done for the sake of national security, I will throw it, and to hell with it! Let's see how this statement comes true ...
    2. CARLSON
      CARLSON 13 May 2014 17: 55
      +2
      Yes, it seems that where it’s already working, it’s just that you don’t need to know about it ahead of time
  12. UVB
    UVB 13 May 2014 17: 47
    +1
    Do they still work? !! Not an order!
  13. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 13 May 2014 17: 48
    +1
    They did the right thing, we didn’t have a bad one.
  14. Al Asad
    Al Asad 13 May 2014 17: 48
    0
    Right step. But isn't it too hasty?
  15. bulvas
    bulvas 13 May 2014 17: 48
    0
    There he also prohibits the use of Russian engines to put military satellites into orbit
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 13 May 2014 18: 04
      0
      There he also prohibits the use of Russian engines to put military satellites into orbit
      Gee, first stop selling engines. And then announce a large-scale action to clean up near-Earth space from accumulated space debris. Start with GPS satellites and the rest of the military. But only for countries that have joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation.
      1. Ajax
        Ajax 13 May 2014 18: 25
        +2
        The Russian Federation imposed sanctions on countries polluting the Earth’s near-Earth space! laughing
  16. Dikson
    Dikson 13 May 2014 17: 48
    +14
    The alternative is Glonass ... It’s going to war, on the move. They cut it off so that in 2008 it doesn’t work out. So soon.
  17. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 13 May 2014 17: 49
    +1
    Oops! Strong move! Let's see how domestic development will cope. And then many got hooked on navigators.
  18. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 13 May 2014 17: 49
    +2
    Well then! God bless Glonass will rise as it should!
  19. jayich
    jayich 13 May 2014 17: 49
    +4
    There is a replacement and is quite worthy of Glonas called. They will bring to mind Elbrus with joy I will transfer from a balcony of Intel. I understand the sanctions. That would have banned epl hi
  20. seregakursk
    seregakursk 13 May 2014 17: 49
    +9
    There is an alternative Glonass system.
    In general, all satellite positioning systems are military developments.
    The ban on the work of the American system is an alarming signal. For good reason all this ...
    I think a large-scale regrouping of troops is planned (for example, Strategic Missile Forces mobile systems) - a GPS ban - so that the Americans would not spy.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 13 May 2014 18: 00
      +14
      Quote: seregakursk
      GPS prohibition - for Americans not to spy.
      You know, I recently recently discovered by chance that my iPhone, for example, without any permission from me, every photo taken with it easily attaches to the area. And the bastard signs the name of the district, settlement ... And this is even when the binding service is turned off ... These are the things. As I understand it, it’s enough to remove an army convoy passing by, and when you first get into the Wi-Fi zone, the data will easily go overseas .. and you won’t know ..
      1. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin 13 May 2014 18: 39
        +4
        Gee, shl, he not only ties them, but also sends them to where they should be, everyone knows this for a long time ...
    2. kosmos1980
      kosmos1980 15 May 2014 00: 00
      0
      How can a GPS ban affect troop regrouping? They can peek regardless of the presence or absence of a navigation system.
  21. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 13 May 2014 17: 50
    0
    The next step is the Ulyanovsk base ... it remains only to welcome ...
  22. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 13 May 2014 17: 50
    +5
    In fact, joy is not enough. The vast majority of navigators are based on GPS, so our ordinary citizens will suffer. It would be logical then to organize a free flashing of mobile devices for our Glonass. If it is technically feasible.
    If you continue like this, then this is a ban on all imported mobile devices. Who needs this?
    1. user1212
      user1212 13 May 2014 18: 38
      0
      Not feasible. The receivers are different in hardware. Now on the market in bulk are two-system GPS-GLONASS navigators. I myself use the Samsung smart with support for both systems
    2. Rostislav
      Rostislav 13 May 2014 19: 25
      +4
      Read the comments carefully - disabling the GROUND stations does not disable GPS, it only lowers the positioning accuracy, which is insignificant for home navigators.
    3. yur
      yur 13 May 2014 20: 06
      0
      Quote: Reserve officer
      In fact, joy is not enough. The vast majority of navigators are based on GPS, so our ordinary citizens will suffer.
      Excuse me, are you really a "reserve officer"? Whose army? In my opinion, if a potential enemy suffers from the actions of my government, then I, an ordinary citizen, are ready to suffer. For nefig. angry
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 13 May 2014 20: 15
        +4
        And let's go further - we disconnect the Internet, we will refuse from foreign cars, we will break the asphalt so that the invaders get stuck on the approaches.
        By analogy, I will gouge out my own eyes, let my mother-in-law have a curve in law.
        A likely adversary should be destroyed, not suffer.
        And ill-conceived populist actions can do serious harm to their own country.
        And no need to ulcerate. By the way, read other resources. In the Russian government, not everyone agrees with this decision.
        1. yur
          yur 13 May 2014 20: 43
          +2
          Quote: Reserve officer
          And let's go further - we disconnect the Internet, we will refuse from foreign cars, we will break the asphalt so that the invaders get stuck on the approaches.
          It will be necessary to turn it off, and refuse, and break it. By the way, the whole world sees how the citizens of Donbass in order to stop the Nazis dismantle the road surface, build barricades and even install their own personal cars in them. Here is an example of real people.
          Quote: Reserve officer
          By the way, read other resources. In the Russian government, not everyone agrees with this decision.
          Why are you surprised? It's just that not everyone in the Russian government works for Russia.
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 13 May 2014 21: 05
            +5
            You distort the facts about the events in the heat of the moment. Such "responses" to sanctions are worse than hostile actions.
            Donbass should not be touched. Everything is too serious there for this topic to be an argument in the dispute. Donbass is already fighting. And there the struggle is not for life, but for death.
            Or do you want the same with us? Do not rush, do not.
            With the only one of your message, I agree - in the assessment of these people. They are really real, you are right about that.
            And a few words about the Government. Unlike you, I don’t know who is working there not for Russia. Somehow they did not inform me about this. But the fact that there are people with a cold head - I have no doubt.
            I would also understand the need for measures by which we will discuss if they were voiced by the Commander-in-Chief. But Rogozin is short-tempered and hot-tempered; I perfectly remember his political career.
            And further. When targeting delivery vehicles, satellite navigation systems are auxiliary. The main thing is the terrain, which is laid down in the homing program. With additional beacons that can be installed anywhere and activated at the right time. And GPS has nothing to do with it.
            By the way, monitoring of our territory by enemy satellites also takes place without this system.
            1. andj61
              andj61 13 May 2014 22: 25
              +1
              You can immediately see a competent person!
    4. AndreyS
      AndreyS 14 May 2014 14: 59
      -1
      Quote: Reserve officer
      In fact, joy is not enough. The vast majority of navigators are based on GPS, so our ordinary citizens will suffer.

      Well, you are right to abstain! Nobody will shoot down GPS satellites, they will continue to give out a signal by which the navigators will be determined, if they fail, the accuracy of the coordinates will decrease (because the satellite constellation over Russia will not be able to adjust its position relative to the terrain, i.e. it will not produce accurate coordinates), and for our citizens pollock so on the map, no problem!
  23. Combat279
    Combat279 13 May 2014 17: 50
    +1
    We must never forget that in the first place it is a system for combat use.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 13 May 2014 17: 53
      +6
      Sorry, if it comes to the combat use of this navigation system, then this is not a sanction, but a real war. And then the conversation will be completely different.
    2. andj61
      andj61 13 May 2014 22: 27
      +1
      Quote: Combat279
      We must never forget that in the first place it is a system for combat use.


      It is unlikely that in this case any of these systems will work for some time at all - this is one of the objects to attack.
  24. max30
    max30 13 May 2014 17: 51
    +3
    Still, now oblige GLONASS support to mobile devices
    1. user1212
      user1212 13 May 2014 18: 41
      0
      And they stick it without obligation. And the Samsung and the Yabloko
  25. marat63
    marat63 13 May 2014 17: 51
    +1
    Are all GPS navigators in the trash? crying
    1. jayich
      jayich 13 May 2014 17: 57
      0
      Well, why reflash the garbage under glonas and no problems, and I am tormented by vague doubts that the navigators are already working with glonas, so at one point to catch 10 satellites of jeepies I think is problematic.
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  26. Infantryman
    Infantryman 13 May 2014 17: 52
    0
    Language to Kiev will bring wink
    1. pavel_SPB
      pavel_SPB 13 May 2014 18: 15
      0
      I think normal citizens of our immense do not need to go there :)) it’s not calm there, you know :)
  27. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 13 May 2014 17: 52
    +2
    Well done ROGOZIN. The Russian people fully support these sanctions. good
  28. mamont5
    mamont5 13 May 2014 17: 52
    +4
    This is already serious. Sounds like precautionary measures. And if you connect with the order issued by the Armed Forces, about which no one really knows anything, then ...
    So, from 1 June ...
  29. Suhov
    Suhov 13 May 2014 17: 53
    +4
    Moscow. may 13. INTERFAX.RU - Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin announced the suspension from June 1 of the stations of the American GPS satellite navigation system in Russia.

    According to Rogozin, Russia can go for such measures if it fails to agree with Washington on the placement of own ground stations of the GLONASS system.

    В In May 2012, Roskosmos applied to the US authorities for permission to build eight GLONASS measuring stations, but the parties failed to reach an agreement. As The New York Times reported, the American intelligence agencies played a key role in disrupting the negotiations, not excluding the possibility that such equipment would allow Russia to provide more accurate guidance of its missiles to targets located in the United States.

    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/376013
  30. Larusik
    Larusik 13 May 2014 17: 53
    +1
    Give GLONASS! Stop spying on Russia!
  31. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 13 May 2014 17: 54
    -3
    After the President of Poland using this system was sent to the other world, using GPS in our territory is not safe.
    There is a precedent.
  32. Al Asad
    Al Asad 13 May 2014 17: 54
    0
    http://www.glonass-center.ru/GLONASS/
    The satellite constellation seems to be in orbit.
  33. snifer
    snifer 13 May 2014 17: 54
    0
    who will tell you how this ban will be implemented, by jammers or what what
    1. Tamagon
      Tamagon 13 May 2014 18: 25
      +1
      They will close ground stations with which satellites check their orbit.
      By the way, the Americans were not allowed to place Glonass stations on their territory. And we have American, ,,,,
  34. Slon1978
    Slon1978 13 May 2014 17: 54
    -9
    Some nonsense - who will get worse from this? only to us - ordinary consumers of all kinds of navigators. What are you happy about? Not every navigator can receive GPS and Glonass at the same time, people will have to buy new devices. In addition, Glonass receivers are more massive and higher power consumption. GPS stations in the Russian Federation are aimed at updating the performance of navigators. GPS will still work in most of the country, but with less accuracy. A cruise missile with a nuclear warhead, it seems to me, a loss of accuracy of 10 meters will not make a difference, and to motorists yes. It would be wiser to foresee the possibility of a quick shutdown of these stations in case of serious military danger.
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 13 May 2014 18: 06
      +1
      EEE ... mine!
    2. Ajax
      Ajax 13 May 2014 18: 29
      +4
      Disconnect means it is necessary, which is not clear ?!
    3. user1212
      user1212 13 May 2014 18: 54
      +5
      Quote: Slon1978
      In addition, Glonass receivers are massive and higher power consumption.

      I did not notice that smart from a Samsung or Appel when working with GLONASS ate more. Where does this information come from?
  35. ESVSerge
    ESVSerge 13 May 2014 17: 55
    +4
    Prohibition of these GPS stations does not disable. They are there to improve positioning accuracy.
    But the fact that it is forbidden to launch military satellites with our engines is glorious trolling :)
    Source: http://russian.rt.com/article/31755#ixzz31bOtVcer
  36. buzer
    buzer 13 May 2014 17: 55
    0
    some too short message, and even from Rogozin. They are waiting for a reaction in the White House ???
  37. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 13 May 2014 17: 56
    +2
    We are waiting for a hit on the dollar. good
  38. Neighbor
    Neighbor 13 May 2014 17: 56
    +1
    All is good when convenient. Yes, only they do not allow us to GLONASS on their territory and we must be able to do without them (if they turn it off for us) and without their own (if they can drown).
  39. dmitrii2121
    dmitrii2121 13 May 2014 17: 56
    +1
    I apologize, maybe I don’t. WHERE TO GET GLONAS? I just drive a car and, of course, not ah, especially when I'm used to it. It’s not easy to return to maps back in large cities, the traffic is big. Although of course you need to develop your own, but how to start using it if someone has infa. Communication with pleasure I will pass to Glonas.
    1. user1212
      user1212 13 May 2014 18: 59
      +1
      In almost any store that sells navigators.
      List of navigators with GLONASS support on Yandex market
      http://market.yandex.ru/guru.xml?CMD=-RR=9,0,0,0-PF=2140983386~TR~sel~select-VIS
      =78-CAT_ID=971072-EXC=1-PG=10&hid=294661&greed_mode=
  40. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 13 May 2014 17: 57
    +3
    It is necessary to support the government and at the everyday level refuse us, everything American.
  41. Masters
    Masters 13 May 2014 18: 00
    +1
    It is high time, the Americans on their territory are blocking the construction, Well done Ragozin, only earlier it was necessary.
  42. Yarik
    Yarik 13 May 2014 18: 00
    +1
    This is a tough guy! Americans will not be happy. But in general, it's time to launch GLONASS, and do their own processes. And then IT is all amerovskoe. And software, of course. And the "axes" are Russian-speaking.
    1. rereture
      rereture 13 May 2014 18: 11
      0
      Or maybe the Russians? Or national wasps? Windows is like a Russian-language system.
  43. Anti-ukra
    Anti-ukra 13 May 2014 18: 00
    +2
    This is ours! As they say without tantrums and unnecessary rassusanivaniyah! Krasava!
  44. aina01
    aina01 13 May 2014 18: 03
    +1
    Sadness, Garmin will have to be thrown out (((but for the sake of such a holiday - I will arrange the kroda and burn it in front of everyone! As the ancestors bequeathed
  45. fleks
    fleks 13 May 2014 18: 03
    +1
    Glonas or Zhps will work for the iPhone and other devices to the flashlight according to the signals of which satellites or ZhPS they will not touch the layman, but the Americans cannot launch their missiles with the necessary accuracy
  46. Ilotan
    Ilotan 13 May 2014 18: 05
    -7
    I do not share the enthusiasm. Glonass is not yet able to fully replace GPS, maybe over time. In addition to motorists, there are also pilots, geologists, sailors, rescuers and many other wonderful professions that urgently need accurate navigation. Although, if we take into account the interests of the country's defense capabilities, it may be right. But in a peaceful life there will be many inconveniences.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 13 May 2014 18: 44
      +4
      Quote: Ilotan
      pilots, geologists, sailors, rescuers and many other wonderful professions

      listen, the Glonass system has long been installed on ambulances, firefighters and other special equipment, on buses of city and intercity routes. And without fail lately. Pilots and sailors, in addition to the Glonass system, also use a couple of satellite systems ... "Messenger" for example ... There is enough specialized navigation equipment. The quality and size of the devices are far from perfect. Let our industry start working properly in the end!
  47. Cpa
    Cpa 13 May 2014 18: 05
    +1
    Well, yesterday the Americans were training "Deter and Defend" with strategic bombers, and ours are now suspending the work of GPS what It seems sanctions are a screen.
  48. DerSamowar
    DerSamowar 13 May 2014 18: 05
    +1
    Here I am personally with GPS, that without it - I’m a peasant guy, I’m used to using paper atlases. And the calculation of the time, how much I should stand in a traffic jam, 5 or 50 minutes - does not matter, the traffic jam from this will not resolve faster. So ... Success!
  49. skylare
    skylare 13 May 2014 18: 06
    +1
    If such a statement was made now, when the domestic system is still being finalized, I think that there were serious reasons for that. Until now, our authorities have not produced any active response to the American and European attempts. Most likely, the matter is not in retaliatory sanctions, well, or not only in them. We just decided to combine business with pleasure.
    1. clidon
      clidon 13 May 2014 19: 57
      -2
      I would not be surprised if this is my own initiative. We often have all the seriousness, this is a rush of the soul of a separate politician. Especially when it comes to narrow specializations.

      PS Here is a little confirmation:
      The head of the RF Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov sees no reason to suspend the operation of GPS stations in Russia.
      "I read about it myself and, frankly, I was a little surprised at such statements. It can be done technically, but why do it?" - Manturov told reporters.
      RIA News
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 14 May 2014 15: 08
        0
        Quote: clidon
        Lava of the RF Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov sees no reason to suspend the operation of GPS stations in Russia.

        And where does the ministry of industry and trade ??????????? !!!!!!!!!!!
  50. Ross
    Ross 13 May 2014 18: 07
    +3
    Quote: Canep
    And I can say briefly about Rogozin - balabol. It’s about the trampoline, then about the cruise in Europe on the Tu-160, but in fact - zero.

    Former journalist. Habit.
    1. Signaller
      Signaller 14 May 2014 18: 08
      -1
      In MK I read the same opus. So what???. He speaks correctly. We don’t need them, but we have our own honor. Otherwise how ???? We can take them down for honor. And if necessary, we will arrive at TU 160, only then let them pray that they remain alive. "Don't joke with the rhino-rhino butts with a horn."