“Yes kapets to the country”: a REGNUM report from “Ukrainian” Poland.

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Not long ago, I returned from the city of Rzeszow, where I was invited to the VI Congress of Polish geopolitics. To get to Rzeszow from Kaliningrad, it was necessary to cover the whole of Poland from north to south and back. And everywhere I heard two words - Russia and Ukraine.

“It was amazing,” I wrote on the first evening of my travel notes. But now I correct: "This is not surprising." The fact is that after communicating with the Poles - from bloggers to professors - it became clear: this Slavic people are very worried that they are flying by Stories. Once again flies past history. First of all, it is connected with the awareness of the collapse of his childhood dream - the creation of Wielkopolska from sea to sea. Communicating with me, the Poles respected the "imperial idea" of Russia - the annexation of the Crimea and ambitions to the Ukrainian South-East, realizing that there should be no two "imperial ideas" on one piece of Europe, and that means that there should be a cross during the revival of Intermarine . However, first things first.

“Yes kapets to the country”: a REGNUM report from “Ukrainian” Poland.
Road workers in the south-east of Poland ("As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians")


Wrong zapadentsy and Donetsk

The “Ukrainian” theme started playing even in Kaliningrad, when the bus to Warsaw for five hours became a tiny “Soviet Union”. Of the seven passengers, two of them had passports of Moldova and Ukraine, and three more were born in Kazakhstan and Lithuania. I want to tell about this Ukrainian woman, how she jokingly called herself, "the wrong zapadenke". Through a chair from me sat this woman with five dozen behind her back and painted in pitch smol. She herself lives in Lviv, and the children - in St. Petersburg.

“How can I blame Russia if my children work there?” She smiles guiltily. “Yes, they rent housing, yes, they work not at all for prestigious jobs, but they are still young — they will earn money for an apartment and for a living.”

The Ukrainian woman returns from her children (through Kaliningrad) to her “zapadensky” Lviv and admits that she has to keep silent about the trip. At parting, she gives me a hryvnia. I choose 5 kopecks, but she puts all the little things on her palm with the words: "Take more. Now this is nothing."

Looking ahead, I will say that after a couple of days in Poland, I met another resident of Lviv - realtor Yuri Kmit. It was already a “normal” zapadenets, not hiding anti-Russian sentiment.

But he is not inclined to divide Ukraine into black and white: “In recent days, several Donetsk families have asked me to look for apartments in Lviv. This is a professorship, intellectuals. They don’t see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine ".

"Yes kapets country"

In the morning at the Warsaw bus station Zakodny through one speak surzhik. Ukrainians scary a lot! This is a real working class. Aunts with big-bellied bauls, men with suave mugs. Taxi drivers take care of them and monotone in tolerable Russian: “To Lviv? Tiraspol Taxi”. But the Ukrainian people save money, quietly waiting for the flight in five hours. I, who grew up in the Soviet backwater, immediately remembered the morning bus station in the Zauralsky district center of Tselinnoe, where 30 years ago, there were also hard workers waiting for their “PAZika”, and flying over them, pissing, pigeons. If it were not for Wi-Fi, then no difference.

I spoke with one Ukrainian. Rather, as I talked: it was enough to get out of the door of the bus station and meet the eyes of the first peasant he asked for a cigarette. I had no cigarettes, but the stranger could not be stopped. In ten minutes, he told me his biography, praised Putin and Yanukovych, and gave a forecast for the future.

A man - a mustache for fifty - also from the Lviv region, regularly goes to Poland to work.

“I used to mow lawns in Warsaw, but now it’s hard to find such a good job. Now he is working as a farm clerk in the village, at Pan,” the Ukrainian said. “There’s no work at all in Ukraine, but all the collective farms were destroyed. In Pskovskaya Do you happen to come from there? From where? From Kaliningrad? This is where? And in Pskov it was good, there are a lot of churches, it is beautiful. "

When asked whether he wanted to simply be part of Poland, Putin took the Crimea, the peasant smirks with his gray mustache: “Nah, I want to live in Ukraine. And I can easily travel to Poland on a work visa. 400 costs hryvnia. You go to the consulate with paper from Mr., for whom you work, and you calmly spank visa. "

Having lit up, the crest practiced in analytics: "Putin has depressed your Crimea, you rejoice, but you do not understand that billionaires rule you. We also ruled billionaires, but we got rid of them. Our Yanukovych fucked up." But on the question of the future of Ukraine without billionaires, throws: "Yes kapets country."

"Merkel is indignant, but she is a doll"

Polyakov quite satisfied that the Ukrainians slave them. At the same Warsaw railway station in Zakhodniy, stickers with the appeal in Russian: "Looking for a job in Poland? Call" are hanging on each pillar. It is in Warsaw, which is three hundred miles from the Ukrainian border, but what is happening in the border areas of Lublin and Rzeszow?

“All low-professional work - repair of roads, apartments, cleaners, car washers are Ukrainians,” the master of Polish journalism, the famous Putinophobe Witold Mihailovsky, who took me from the station, tells me. “As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians. It's cheap and qualitatively. And the manpower market is inexhaustible. Here is such (smiles) friendship of Slavic peoples ".

79-year-old Witold Mihailovsky is one of the legends of Poland. He is the founder and editor of the magazine with the furious name "Pipeline". In Polish, it sounds ridiculous - "Rurochёnga". In a conversation with each counter and cross Pan Mikhailovsky repeats this patter: "Rurochёngi-gazochyongi, handlers-gazochyongi". But this ridiculous name for ten years as acquired a serious geopolitical connotation. And today, even more so. The editor is asked for comments by all and sundry. As a result, I heard a version of the reasons for the Crimean reunification with Russia from the most knowledgeable Polish expert in “pipe politics”. The fault is, it turns out, the South Stream gas pipeline (South Stream), which Putin is currently laying through the Black Sea.

“But everything is good on paper,” continues Witold, smoking a pipe with a monogram of a Ukrainian trident. “In practice, no. Tectonic analysis showed that a rock rose on the way of South Stream. It is impossible to break through it up to a kilometer! It’s impossible to translate South Stream to the north of the sea, where the Ukrainian shelf is located. That is, Crimea. This is a quiet operation, behind which German and American concerns stand. Merkel is indignant, but she is a little doll. "

Mikhailovski, feeding in his garden of red fish in the pond, puts the last trump card: "25 years ago geological exploration was done in the northern part of the Black Sea. And it turned out that there is a lot of oil and gas in the area of ​​the Ukrainian shelf. Very a lot! This is closer to the South-East of Ukraine. Therefore, the South-East will become Russian. Human rights? Nonsense. "

In tobacco smoke, you see the contented face of Mr. Witold. And it is not clear what he is more satisfied with - his version or Putin's grip. I decided to ask about the Polish political elite. In response, he heard: "Tusk - g ... but!"

“We can not buy gas from Russia and for that we don’t need a shale revolution,” Mikhailovsky explains. “There is a very interesting prospect in Poland — the use of geothermal sources. But the Poles do not have the strength of mind. We are degenerate.”

"We went under the Americans"

For a few days, other Polish citizens also told me about the lack of strength of spirit among the Poles. For example, the professor of the Jagiellonian University from Krakow, Hanna Kowalska-Stus.

“For me, as for the Polish people, it’s a shame that if earlier Poland implemented the policy of the USSR, today it implements the policy of the United States. Again, this is not our national policy!” - exclaims the professor. In her opinion, "Putin has an imperial idea, and it is worthy of respect."

“But Poland is not able to exist independently, we do not have our own idea, our own Polish civilization way,” echoes its professor Anna Razhna from the Jagiellonian University. “Our politicians are slaves, American slaves.”

"I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read us reports in English!” Continues Mrs. Kowalska-Stus. - This is when there are even fewer differences in Polish and Slovak than in Russian and Ukrainian! What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe are Slavs, but instead of uniting in the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we went under the Americans. "

The paralysis of Polish thought was also confirmed by the well-known Polish blogger, creator of Television People’s, Eugeniusz Sendetsky. Pan is a doctor by profession, and Internet TV is a hobby whose level of popularity is characterized, for example, by such an example. A video with teenagers playing football in front of the church, around which several hundred Polish Catholics pray, scored 1,5 million views.

So, according to Sendetsky, the opinion in the Polish blogosphere, at least a little different from the general European propaganda formula - “Putin is a new Hitler” - is immediately declared seditious, and such a blogger is called a “Russian agent”.

"Pravoseki - those-rro-ri-areas!"

At the congress, I remember most of all the master of the University of Wroclaw, Samuel Musa. Musa (everyone called him that, considering that this name) is a Syrian, but he has been living in Poland for ten years. So, he for Russia, it seems, will stuff his face. For example, when one of the Polish young political politicians tried to defend the Ukrainian "pravosekov", Musa stood up and pushed a speech, simple as Damascus steel:

"What kind of opposition is this ?! These are the terrorists who were prepared by the Americans. Those-rr-ri-tsy! We did exactly the same thing in Syria. The United States nurtured such" oppositionists "with the same national slogans. But we know that they were all killers. "

How Putin will react to the results of the referendum in the east of Ukraine?
In the coffee breaks, Musa wedged into groups of doctors and masters who criticized Russia without any European sentiments and defended Russia. I will cite such a dialogue. One Polish political scientist, in my opinion, of the University of Rzeszow, painted to his colleagues: "What is Russia? Stop in any village - there is also a 19 century!"

The author of these lines just wanted to ask whether the pan was in eyewear and a mixed-fabric suit in the Russian outback, as Musa issued:

"Listen, I was in France, the outskirts of Marseilles is a 18 century!"
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  1. +112
    14 May 2014 15: 56
    Plus article. An unusual look at the Poles.
    Recently, I began to look differently at the Germans, Poles, and Ukrainians.
    Only about the Yankees, the opinion has not changed.
    1. +80
      14 May 2014 16: 10
      Unusual, I agree.
      Only an interesting situation is obtained by looking in retrospect ...
      Polish pans historically sat on the necks of Ukrainians and spread their rot as they could.
      Ukrainians fled to Russia.
      Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.

      Where is the logic?
      1. +44
        14 May 2014 16: 18
        Quote: Baikal
        Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.
        Where is the logic?


        It is strange that I will write this: but simply they have not received 3,14zdy for a long time from the Nazis, Napoleons and others like them. They forgot and did not give a damn about the history, and their help and support to Russia.
        Found a richer new "friend" and betrayed the old one.
        1. AVIATOR36662
          +5
          14 May 2014 17: 39
          You have to be very careful with history! If the Poles fought in Napoleon's army against Russia even in separate subdivisions and units, then on the side of the fascists against the USSR (Russia), the Poles almost never fought, apart from individual cases, but not on the side of the fascists. Faith that is different from Orthodoxy is old and almost "eternal" the reason for Poland's rejection of Russia. And the rest of the grievances are always more than enough. And the setting of Poland in its place in 1613, and the suppression of the uprising in Poland by Suvorov, where Suvorov simply had mercy on the Poles. And the suppression of the Polish uprising in Warsaw by the Nazis already at the end of the Second World War, the Poles "wrote off" on the unwillingness of the USSR army to help, not taking into account the strategic nuances. And the shooting in the USSR of the Polish military before the Second World War? And after the Second World War absolutely innocent people often fell under the skating rink of Beria's service. Memory is a very strong thing! So you really need to be careful with the story. Chocolate is often bitter.
          1. +25
            14 May 2014 18: 19
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            You must be very careful with the story! ...


            Oh, how right you are! But now history is interpreted by all countries, in any direction they desire and from any point of view.

            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            Memory is a very strong thing!


            Alas! Not at all. She's too selective. The bad is remembered for centuries, the good is not mentioned immediately after the "thank you".
          2. +71
            14 May 2014 18: 31
            AVIATOR36662
            Yes, in the Napoleonic army of the Poles there were almost a quarter, and they fought not in units, but in formations and corps ... but from June 22, May 41 to May 9, we captured more than 45 thousand Poles - a third more than Italians, a separate case is good if they came to us with the Germans much more than Hitler's official allies - Italians. And this despite the fact that it seems that since 60 years old, a POW who was a prisoner of war expressed a desire to fight against the Germans, he was sent after verification to the national Polish units without even having a prisoner of war card ... and our Poles surrendered much more reluctantly than Italians.
            Well, the fact that the Poles turned out to be prettier than the version of the shootings in Katyn created by Goebbels, rather than the truth - so this is not a complaint to us. Yes, part of the Polish war criminals suffered a well-deserved punishment, but we shot at times less than Hitler’s propaganda imputes them to us, and not in Katyn. And there was no talk of any mass shootings on the lists - everyone got his own according to a court verdict. In the end, someone had to be responsible for the barbarous destruction of 80 thousand of our military, for the Ukrainian and Belarusian villages burned by the gendarmerie, for the thousands of executed people .... by the way, the Poles were engaged in this fascinating activity even in September 39 ... So that is selective memory, especially the memory of that. what was not is a much stronger thing. than memory .... With memory at the bottom, on the contrary, everything is bad - they don’t remember. what they got in the teeth only when they tried to enslave us, they don’t remember how they were friends with Hitler, hoping to share the USSR with him, how Czechoslovakia was shared with him .... they don’t remember that Russophobic politics led Poland to collapse. They do not want to remember.

            For Katyn I recommend - Vladislav Shved. "Katyn. Modern history of the issue." perhaps the most successful book on the topic.
            1. +4
              15 May 2014 00: 24
              June 22, May 41 to May 9, we captured more than 45 thousand Poles
              Documented. and the Poles, and the French, and the British, and even the Brazilian saw Siberia captive with the Germans
            2. raf
              +3
              15 May 2014 20: 30
              Quite right. Each Pole individually is even less human, but when there are more than 2 of them, it’s something. In one word, it’s a dirty folk! What a long way to go, even if Churchill, an ardent hater of everything Soviet, wrote about Poland as a hyena of Europe. That says a lot. And the Poles still dare to be offended. In Katyn, I recommend Yuri Mukhin! Absolute objective book.
              1. +2
                16 May 2014 12: 55
                As they said about dill, I don’t remember exactly. 1 Ukrainian is nothing, 2 partisan detachment, 3 is a partisan detachment with a traitor.
              2. 0
                17 May 2014 12: 49
                Quote: raf
                According to Katyn, I recommend Yuri Mukhin! Absolute objective book

                "Anti-Russian meanness?" Or are there any more on this topic?
          3. 11111mail.ru
            +26
            14 May 2014 19: 56
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            So you really need to be careful with the story.

            So let's see your accuracy with Lady Clea.
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            on the side of the fascists against the USSR (Russia), the Poles almost did not fight, not counting isolated cases, but not on the side of the fascists.

            Let's go through your phrase from the end. A number has long been on the Internet: more than 60 thousand Poles in German uniform were captured by the Red Army during the Second World War, i.e. after 1941. On which side (practically!) Did the AK fight, shooting, as did the Bandera men at the Red Army?
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            And under the rink of Beria’s service after the Second World War, they often fell completely innocent people.

            ...captured with arms in hand.
            About Polish innocent lambs you tell pshekam, they will assent to you.
          4. +21
            14 May 2014 20: 11
            But there is no need to lie, there were enough mobilized Poles in the German army and their losses in the Wehrmacht were 2 times higher than the losses of those killed in the anti-Hitler coalition.

            And the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR before the Second World War?


            One of Goebbels’s many attempts to blame his own crimes on the NKVD.
          5. Bormental
            +13
            14 May 2014 20: 15
            "The number of prisoners of war from June 22, 1941 to September 2, 1945
            Poles - 60.280 ", - a quote from pedivikia. Multiply at least 2 (dead, otmazatsya), - not so little fought against us.
          6. +7
            14 May 2014 20: 34
            Pilot, even Europe has already recognized that the shooting under the Katyn of the Poles was the work of the Germans. You state the opposite only you and ..... Putin.
            1. AVIATOR36662
              -1
              14 May 2014 21: 06
              It is unlikely that they could have “slipped” biased data to Putin. He did not come from that organization so as not to know the essence of the matter. I think everyone will have to agree with Putin on this tragic historical issue.
              1. +2
                15 May 2014 01: 40
                Quote: cheega69
                only you and ..... Putin

                Quote: AVIATOR36662
                everyone will have to agree with Putin

                Here it is! One lied, the other agreed, but the sediment remained)). The information war - it is such an information)).
            2. +5
              15 May 2014 00: 27
              Pilot, even Europe has already recognized that the shooting under the Katyn of the Poles was the work of the Germans.
              Recognized by everyone except the Poles and some Russians
              1. 0
                16 May 2014 12: 58
                Yes, even if they shot it right, Stalin didn’t do anything he thought. If they were released, they would receive a knife from them in the back.
          7. +10
            14 May 2014 21: 13
            You need to be very careful with the story! What kind of tales about the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR? If you mean the shooting of Polish officers near Katyn, then in Europe, as well as in Russia, this issue has already been resolved. Be careful with the story!
            1. AVIATOR36662
              0
              15 May 2014 00: 41
              The conclusion has long been made by a very competent commission at the highest level and voiced by the first persons of Russia! Continuing to persist in your ignorance is a rather interesting trait.
              1. +1
                15 May 2014 01: 47
                Quote: AVIATOR36662
                The conclusion has long been made by a very competent commission

                Do you mean the commission of the US Congress in 1943?
              2. raf
                +1
                15 May 2014 20: 35
                Yeah! A very bought, corrupt "competent commission" and the same corrupt State Duma deputy voiced this libel!
          8. +11
            14 May 2014 22: 10
            but for some reason everyone forgets about the shooting by the Poles of the Red Army in the 20's during the war with Poland and the unsuccessful campaign against Warsaw. Well, they don’t like to remember the Poles about it, they remember the memory of them.
            1. +4
              15 May 2014 00: 29
              but for some reason everyone forgets about the shooting by the Poles of the Red Army in the 20's during the war with Poland and the unsuccessful campaign against Warsaw. Well, they don’t like to remember the Poles about it, they remember the memory of them.
              Not so much shot as they were frozen in concentration camps
              1. +1
                16 May 2014 13: 02
                This is a purely Polish trait, remember only what is beneficial to them. the Poles only think how they can create an empire from sea to sea, a dwarf complex. According to the author, Putin is respected only for imperial ambitions, they judge Russia by their petty and miserable complexes. And they can’t understand that Poland didn’t rest against Russia.
            2. AVIATOR36662
              -8
              15 May 2014 00: 51
              And here you have to be realistic. Not with a humanitarian mission came to Poland the Red Army Cavalry, which was completely defeated. But nothing can be fixed.
              1. raf
                +3
                15 May 2014 20: 38
                Let it be known to you that Comrade Budyonny in Poland you praised was not close to the spirit, and in the face the Poles handed over your idol Tukhachevsky, the executioner Kronstadt and Tambov.
              2. Ghost53
                0
                16 May 2014 21: 05
                Aviator, you again showed your ignorance. Pilsudski did not defeat Budyonny, but Tukhachevsky. Be careful with the story!
          9. +4
            14 May 2014 23: 52
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            Chocolate is often bitter.

            Dark chocolate is often the purest and most correct of chocolates.
            And we can remember a lot of grievances - and the Time of Troubles, and the White Poles, etc.
            But with the fact that insults and emotions interfere with the objective perception of what is happening and what is happening - I absolutely agree!
            1. raf
              +1
              15 May 2014 20: 42
              Yes, we do not take offense at the Poles for their "pranks" bloody in the Time of Troubles, the Moscow Kremlin, for Susanin, and we do not present any accounts for their actions. So the noble gentlemen could quiet down, but no, they stink all over Europe, venal.
          10. -2
            15 May 2014 00: 21
            You have to be very careful with the story!
            Take a look at the history of Poland and Russia. Just not what we were stuffed with earlier. Now there are a lot of reliable materials on the network. hi
            1. +1
              16 May 2014 05: 08
              Was the credibility assessed personally? Compared to "absolutely accurate data"? Have you seen everything yourself? PS The words "Network" and "reliable materials" are not combined, tk. more often than not this is not true.
          11. Ghost53
            0
            16 May 2014 20: 45
            Aviator, you said that you have to be very careful with history. And you are right. The only pity is that you yourself do not know the stories. Do not be lazy, look at the data on the number of Wehrmacht soldiers and officers taken prisoner in the Second World War, broken down by nationality. The Poles occupy not the last line there. Even Jewish soldiers of the Wehrmacht, and then there are more than 10000. Second. Everyone has long known that Polish officers were shot by the Germans in September 41. It is a pity that you still do not know this. Read - Y. Mukhin "Katyn detective" and "Anti-Russian meanness"
        2. soyuz-nik
          0
          15 May 2014 00: 44
          I wish you good health! Allow me not to agree with you on everything!

          I think that one of the greatest human "sins" (not in a religious, but in a secular sense) is to deceive ourselves (excluding, perhaps, cases when, for example, a wife is waiting for a husband from the war, or a husband in a war believes that waiting for him, etc.).

          Question: Was the USSR a really good friend for Poland? However, as for other members of the so-called. social camp .... I doubt it ...

          I remember in the early 90s, when the USSR was falling, the Russians interviewed from the TV broadcast: if we get rid of the slips from other republics - and we will live! I remember when in 93 Russia introduced the new ruble, how many "wooden" ones poured into Kazakhstan and other former republics. USSR, which by that time had not acquired their own currencies ...

          Now Russia has a new trend - to collect land .... And, in my opinion, this can only be welcomed. But the sense of this will be ONLY if the corresponding conclusions are drawn from history ... (although, as they say, history teaches us that it does not teach us anything. Option: life teaches us intelligibly, but expensive) ...

          I think that the goal of Russia in collecting lands should be the CONQUEST OF CONFIDENCE of other peoples, and the SOFT POWER (an economy that works less on raw materials, culture, technology, education, science, art, medicine, etc., should become the tool). e. that in which Russia (USSR) has so far lost in many respects to the West).

          As they say, be simpler, and people will reach for you. And there you look - and the military-political situation will change ... and then we'll see who will threaten someone with a finger and read out the sanctions lists.

          May the Force be with us! bully
          1. +1
            15 May 2014 14: 20
            Quote: soyuz-nik
            and the SOFT POWER (an economy that works less on raw materials, culture, technology, education, science, art, medicine, etc., that is, in which Russia (the USSR) is still lost to the West

            I disagree - just the USSR tried to do all this. Another thing is that he did it through ... "socialist" economy, ignoring social and market laws.
            And the term "SOFT POWER" is not applicable here - interest is the best motivation.

            If you look at the slipping of the same vehicle and other projects of the countries of the former USSR, the main reason is that Russia, as the main player, wants to act as a kind of "metropolis". On the one hand, this can be understood - the weight of the economy must be taken into account. On the other hand, the rest of the participants feel on the sidelines, and this, at least, is insulting.
          2. +1
            16 May 2014 13: 09
            So Russia behaves, it’s easier nowhere, they spit in her face and she continues to supply gas, they kill citizens of her own state and Russia asks to postpone the referendum, Ukraine is torn apart by vultures from the west and Russia sits down at the negotiating table and tries to agree on something fascists.
          3. Ghost53
            +2
            16 May 2014 21: 20
            Eldar, where did you get the idea that Russia "should" be there? For some reason, Kazakhstan owes nothing, the US owes nothing, but Russia "must". And to be soft and kind, as I understand it - at the expense of my people, and trust should be won and something else that any Honduras wishes. But nobody owes Russia anything. Don't you think this is at least strange?
        3. +2
          15 May 2014 07: 09
          Well, if for the sake of a rich new friend they forget the old one, then who are they?
      2. +14
        14 May 2014 16: 33
        Quote: Baikal
        Polish pans historically sat on the necks of Ukrainians and spread their rot as they could.

        So the pans (gentry) and their people rotted! And all who could reach ....
      3. +4
        14 May 2014 17: 31
        In my opinion, Ukrainians and logic are not compatible concepts.
        And there are many examples of this.
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        2. +14
          14 May 2014 19: 34
          “Over the past few days, several families from Donetsk have asked me to find them an apartment in Lvov. These are professors, intellectuals. They do not see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine.”

          Most likely, this is the same professorship as a professor at Shevchenko University of Kiev, who claims that "Ukrainian is one of the oldest in the world and is the basis of Latin."
          “In the 16th century, only 900 of thousands of Ukrainians lived in the Crimea only in Crimea,” a people's deputy justifies the historical rights to these lands. - The South was also populated by Ukrainians. And indeed, from ancient times, several thousand years ago, the entire population was Ukrainian. Only the Greeks called that population Scythians. ”
          Among other things, Alexander Shevchenko predicts that soon Russia, “carried away by the struggle with the fraternal people,” will itself begin to fall, and “only scraps will remain of this country”.
          “But Poland is not able to exist independently, we do not have our own idea, our own Polish civilization way,” echoes its professor Anna Razhna from the Jagiellonian University. “Our politicians are slaves, American slaves.”

          You have no ideas, but continuous AMBITIONSthat are not brought to good. Take at least a plane crash near Smolensk.
          Many commentators suggested pressure from the president on the crew as a possible cause of the disaster. A case of such pressure has already taken place: on 12 on August 2008 during the Russian-Georgian armed conflict, Lech Kaczynski demanded to change the initial route and land the plane in Tbilisi, but the crew commander Grzegorz Petruchuk refused to carry out the presidential order without risking the lives of the leaders of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Ukraine aboard the plane and landed at the Ganja airport in Azerbaijan.

          And from this I’ll generally laughing
          ...Now to the laborer in the village, at the pan- said the Ukrainian. - There is absolutely no work in Ukraine, all the collective farms have collapsed ...
          ... And in Poland I can easily go on a work visa. 400 hryvnia costs. You go to the consulate with paper from the pan, for whom you work, and they calmly slap you a visa "...

          AND NEXT:
          ... you rejoice, but do not understand that you are ruled by billionaires. Billionaires ruled us too but we threw them off...
          belay

          AND THEY STILL FIGHT FOR THE HONORARY TITLE OF THE HOUSE OF HIGH CULTURE AND LIVING
      4. +34
        14 May 2014 17: 38
        Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.

        "Ukraine has joined the EU. Two Ukrainians are sitting there drinking. One
        asks: well sho? The second answers: Yes, this garbage is the EU - I'm out of work, wife
        in Italy washes floors, a son married a German, a daughter a prostitute in
        France !!! And blame m ***** and !!!! They told us: Do not enter
        EU, do not join the EU !!! They knew the paddlers, we will do it out of spite. "
        lol
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      6. +5
        14 May 2014 18: 32
        Many Westerners and Ukrainians in general do not know this. They now need 100 years to understand - American influence.
      7. +13
        14 May 2014 19: 11
        "Precisely, this second consists in the fact that, according to my inner conviction, the most complete and irresistible, Russia will not, and never have had, such haters, envious people, slanderers and even outright enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them as liberated! And let them not object to me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! On the contrary, I love the Slavs very much, but I will not defend myself because I know that everything will come true exactly as I say, and not at all because of the low, ungrateful, as if, the character of the Slavs, they have a character in this sense, like everyone else, - namely, because such things in the world cannot happen otherwise. I will not spread, but I know that we by no means need to demand gratitude from the Slavs, we need to prepare for this in advance. After liberation, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely from that what they will beg for themselves from Europe, from England and Her mania, for example, the guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even though Russia will be included in the concert of the European powers, they will do it in defense of Russia. They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not outright out loud, they will declare to themselves and convince themselves that they do not owe Russia the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they barely escaped the lust for power of Russia at the conclusion of peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not intervene Europe, so Russia, taking them away from the Turks, would swallow them immediately, "meaning the expansion of the borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs to the greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe."
        (Dostoevsky http://www.fact.ru/www/arhiv25dr-2.htm)
        Smart was a man.
        1. +2
          15 May 2014 00: 35
          Russia will never have, and never has had, haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated!
          Poles - open enemies, Bulgarians, Ukrainians have repeatedly betrayed Russia. History, you know ..
      8. +3
        14 May 2014 22: 57
        In an international company, everyone told a joke, except for Hassan. They asked him to tell.
        Hassan - I am sitting in the desert. There is a caravan of camels. Passed the first - nasr .., passed the second - ..., passed the fortieth ..
        - Wait, wait, and where is the salt (logic) of the joke?
        - No salt, one manure.
        1. +1
          15 May 2014 00: 11
          Quote: Turkir
          - Wait, wait, and where is the salt (logic) of the joke?
          - No salt, one manure.

          Или:
          <And where is the essence?
          > And piss in the sand.
      9. svvu
        -2
        15 May 2014 15: 57
        "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.
        1. +1
          16 May 2014 11: 25
          Quote: svvu
          "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.



          I advise you to study the story.
        2. 0
          16 May 2014 11: 25
          Quote: svvu
          "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.



          I advise you to study the story.
      10. 0
        15 May 2014 23: 31
        Aha: blame for everything "damn". Vons vse zherly, vse zruynuvali, vse zhoopyly. "Gat, damn, gat!" "Otozh, okay!" Gop-gop-gop. "Who doesn’t jump tei!"
      11. +1
        16 May 2014 11: 22
        Quote: Baikal
        Where is the logic?



        What kind of logic are we talking about? They don’t know such words ...
        And they don't know the word "honor" either.

        From the latest distortions: "Russians are bad, Russian invaders, Russians out of Ukraine .... etc.," and then "Russians, give me money, plizzzz" .... Where is reason and dignity? No, and never was.
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    2. +9
      14 May 2014 16: 15
      Most importantly, the truth is slowly reaching the European people and there are people in Europe who are bringing this truth smile
    3. +29
      14 May 2014 16: 24
      In an interesting time we live gentlemen! Surprisingly, so far Russia has been talked about critically about Europe, although it did not rock the boat, and as soon as it began to show character, many began to respect! Hence the conclusion, firmly stand on your opinion and the interests of Russia!
    4. +32
      14 May 2014 16: 29
      Quote: “Over the course of several days, other Polish citizens told me about the lack of fortitude among the Poles. For example, Hanna Kowalska-Stus, a professor at the Jagiellonian University from Krakow.

      “For me, as a polka, it is a shame that if earlier Poland was implementing the policy of the USSR, today it is implementing the policy of the United States. This is again not our national policy.! "- the professor exclaims."
      ====================================================================== =============
      Has she ever been to Poland ?? belay
      Vladimir Ilyich also called Poland the political prostitute of Europe! Whoever offers more will lie under him request
      1. olf_1959
        +16
        14 May 2014 17: 04
        Vladimir Ilyich also called Poland the political prostitute of Europe! Whoever offers more will fall under request

        Ukraine is the same only with a rank much lower, approximately like a port.
        1. +5
          14 May 2014 17: 36
          Shoulder ... in prostitution rank tables is more correct
    5. +6
      14 May 2014 16: 58
      With the Poles, everything is normal. It's just that few people write about this. And so, who dealt with the Poles a lot that can tell something unusual for our layman ...
    6. +6
      14 May 2014 17: 04
      + article. easy and not forced to read, everything is intelligible and understandable. People of different nationalities are described, and they are united by one FRIENDLY ATTITUDE TO RUSSIA. IMHO
      Thanks to the author hi
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 11: 29
        Quote: Veles75
        and they are united by one FRIENDLY ATTITUDE TO RUSSIA



        Enmity as the rules of the top. And the peoples, for the most part, are friendly. Especially native peoples - Slavic ...
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    7. +26
      14 May 2014 17: 09
      For me, the article did not open anything new. In the 80s, I lived in Poland for 5 years and talked quite a lot with the Poles. What the author writes is 100% true. How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.
      1. +6
        14 May 2014 18: 26
        hi
        Quote: Saratoga833
        they were never Russian brothers.

        White bones are smoldering on the Don and Zamost Breezes rustling above the bones Remember ataman dogs Remember Polish pans Konarmeyskie our blades
      2. +3
        14 May 2014 19: 43
        Quote: Saratoga833
        How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.

        However, a friend of mine told me that when the troops were withdrawn under Gorbachev, then at the stations of Czechoslovakia and Poland, simple crawlers and other hard workers said with regret in this spirit: “Who are you leaving us for?” How are we now without you?
      3. 0
        15 May 2014 00: 38
        What the author writes is 100% true. How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.
        I join your opinion
    8. +17
      14 May 2014 17: 14
      By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...
      1. +12
        14 May 2014 17: 33
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...

        There are many Poles and Ukrainians throughout Europe.
        It will be interesting when the EU gives visa exemptions to Ukraine and Pravoseki and others like them rush to Europe - to relax, yes do some work. :)))
        1. +2
          15 May 2014 00: 41
          There are many Poles and Ukrainians throughout Europe.
          and the Baltic states too ... In Amsterdam, for example, it is not uncommon for a waitress to answer your English phrase in Russian.
    9. 0
      14 May 2014 17: 14
      By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...
    10. Reasonable, 2,3
      +8
      14 May 2014 17: 55
      This is a unit. It is not necessary to evaluate the Poles in a different way. They have Russophobia in their blood, with their mother's milk. There are "objective" ones, but again we are "imperial". In Geyrope, all empires were ordered to live long, together with their utopian ideas. We are alive. We, starting from Kievan Rus, had already 6 empires. There will be a 7th, and do not doubt. And as for the "common" people. Sound that they are being invested in UHI.
      1. +2
        14 May 2014 21: 59
        The words "simple" people are correctly put in quotation marks. Our people are not as simple as you like to think. Quite the opposite, he is often smarter than his "rationalists".
      2. +1
        15 May 2014 00: 43
        No need to evaluate the Poles differently.
        Among the Poles there are many friendly people, but the general background is frankly Russophobic
    11. +3
      14 May 2014 18: 42
      Quote: MainBeam
      Plus article. An unusual look at the Poles.
      Recently, I began to look differently at the Germans, Poles, and Ukrainians.
      Only about the Yankees, the opinion has not changed.

      And thank God! We must get rid of skepticism about the possibility of creating a Slavic Union. And for this it is necessary to take away from the Anglo-Saxons their main weapon - propaganda; open your eyes to the destructive background of their masses - culture. But all this will not cost much if the richest country in the world - Russia - surprises the world with the lowest standard of living in that G10, to which other countries we must oppose ourselves in the eyes of the Slavic World. Even more wild and unjustified is the presence of a flat scale of income, the presence of a company of billionaires and benefits to them, countless hordes of officials !!! Medvedev was mistaken by an order of magnitude: not 90% of officials - to reduce, XNUMX% - to leave, but vice versa! ... But what about you? Yankosov opinion is not changing. - perfectly! Congratulations - a sober vision of the realities of this world. If on the contrary, then - trouble.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        +3
        14 May 2014 18: 58
        What is the "Slavic union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians? Yes, they are completely frostbitten. Who said that we have the lowest standard of living? The press has read a lot? Go to the outskirts of Warsaw, that's their level. Our homeless person will be happy to think that they don't live there.
        1. +3
          14 May 2014 20: 08
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          What is the "Slavic union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians? Yes, they are completely frostbitten. Who said that we have the lowest standard of living? The press has read a lot? Go to the outskirts of Warsaw, that's their level. Our homeless person will be happy to think that they don't live there.

          Romanians are not Slavs! I compared the standard of living with the countries of the "seven" - the "ideal" of the Eastern Europeans - the Slavs. In Russian, after all, it is written.
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            +4
            14 May 2014 21: 11
            And the population of Romania consists of 66% of the Slavs. What made you think that the country is at a high level? You ambulance will not pick you up there without insurance - lie down. And we and Eastern Europeans still have a high social package. they are half wages. Do not measure with one income.
            1. +1
              15 May 2014 00: 21
              Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
              And the population of Romania consists of 66% of the Slavs.

              Where is the tsifirka from, share it?
              I remember a couple of Old Believers' villages in the Danube floodplains, very few Slovaks and Ruthenians along the border, and the rest (in decreasing order of numbers) were Gypsies, Romanians and Hungarians.
              So these others - more than 90% will be.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          +4
          14 May 2014 20: 10
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          "Slavic Union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians?

          Romanians have never been Slavs. According to the hypothesis, these are the descendants of the legionnaires who received their 25 yugers and produced offspring from the Dacians. Language: extremely tainted Latin. And self-name "Romania ".
          1. +1
            14 May 2014 23: 02
            Plus a huge gypsy mix.
          2. yur
            yur
            0
            14 May 2014 23: 06
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Romanians have never been Slavs. According to a hypothesis, these are the descendants of the legionnaires, having received
            And the legionnaires were all Latins right? In addition, Romanians are Orthodox. So in spirit they can be closer to us than the Poles - "Slavs".
            1. 0
              15 May 2014 00: 43
              Romanians are Catholics. These are Moldovans Orthodox. I’ve been to Romania, I haven’t seen a single Orthodox church there. In general, it was the Catholics who arranged all the contentions, and they were the initiators of all the warriors of the last two centuries, and blamed on Muslims and Orthodox Christians.
              1. yur
                yur
                0
                15 May 2014 18: 01
                Quote: alexneg
                Romanians are Catholics. This is Moldovan Orthodox. I’ve been to Romania, I haven’t seen a single Orthodox church there
                Sorry, but you probably looked bad. According to the 2002 census, 86,7% of the country's population included themselves as Orthodox.
            2. +1
              15 May 2014 00: 45
              In addition, Romanians are Orthodox. So in spirit they can be closer to us than the Poles - "Slavs".
              I don’t know about Romanians, but the Greeks are definitely closer
            3. 11111mail.ru
              0
              15 May 2014 05: 17
              Quote: yur
              And the legionnaires were just like that all the Latins were?

              In what language were the commands given to the personnel in the Soviet Army (except for the "obscene" of course)? Likewise in the ROMA legions.
              1. yur
                yur
                0
                15 May 2014 18: 11
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                In what language were the commands given to the personnel in the Soviet Army (except for the "obscene" of course)? Likewise in the ROMA legions.
                What does the language in which commands are given in the army relate to the nationality of a soldier? request
            4. -3
              15 May 2014 14: 43
              is it from which side are they Orthodox? collapsed from oak? Well, Catholics are basically, well, a little Old Believers and that’s all ...
              1. yur
                yur
                +1
                15 May 2014 18: 06
                Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                is it from which side are they Orthodox? collapsed from oak?
                Look in any directory, even in the same wiki. And then you, it would be nice to apologize.
      2. +1
        15 May 2014 12: 20
        Quote: 1812 1945
        But all this will not cost much if the richest country in the world - Russia will surprise the world with the lowest standard of living

        Reasonable. Only in trading. To unite the Slavic world, you need to live better than anyone.
        So what is stopping us?
  2. +34
    14 May 2014 15: 57
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool
    1. +1
      14 May 2014 16: 10
      Something doesn’t seem like, otherwise they wouldn’t behave like that .....
      1. +15
        14 May 2014 16: 19
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted!

        The Poles are already full of European democracy.
        Although, if you read this article, then the Ukrainian people are very deep in Polish sewers.

        "Integration of Europe"
        The introduction of the euro in the 2002 year provided Germany with the best conditions for foreign trade and led to a sharp increase in its trade surplus, that is, profit. From the 2004 of the year, when the accession to the European Union of new countries, now countries of Eastern Europe, began, the process of destroying their economic and industrial potential began.

        New members were subject to strict requirements, rules, quotas, which led to a reduction in domestic production and an increase in imports. Many countries have lost entire industriesFor example, the sugar industry was destroyed in Latvia, Portugal, Bulgaria, Ireland, Slovenia.

        In 2009, the European Commission explicitly prohibited Latvia from resuming sugar production. Bulgaria, which was the largest producer of agricultural products in CMEA, now imports up to 80% of its vegetables and has stopped growing tomatoes. Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was an industrialized part of Yugoslavia and retained its industry during the war years, has now become a de-industrialized country with an unemployment rate of 44%
        1. mad
          +4
          14 May 2014 16: 43
          Quote: MainBeam
          became a de-industrialized country with an unemployment rate of 44%

          But this is an excellent cannon fodder in the outbreak of war against Russia. You can literally kill two birds with one stone - and the extra mouths and the extra Russians.
          1. yur
            yur
            +2
            14 May 2014 23: 17
            Quote: mad
            But this is an excellent cannon fodder in the outbreak of war against Russia. You can literally kill two birds with one stone - and extra mouths
            But this is unlikely. Whatever idiot they might be, they understand one thing there - all the "extra mouths", together with the bodies of the inspirers for the war with Russia, will burn up in atomic fire.
        2. 0
          15 May 2014 21: 45
          seek someone profitable
      2. +4
        14 May 2014 23: 06
        Poles love to talk about themselves.
        If all the media in the world do not say a word about Poland for a week, then Poland will unleash a world war.
    2. +7
      14 May 2014 17: 39
      It’s just that the Poles have long been under the Americans, they are fed up with everything and they already understand well that promise is one thing, and keeping promises is another. Although the bone sometimes falls to them, because barking at Russia regularly.
      And Ukrainians are fresh. Everything seems to them in bright prospects. They think that there will be love and wedding)))
    3. +3
      14 May 2014 19: 59
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool

      The whole history of independence can be divided into two stages before and after Yushchenko.
      So, with the advent of Yushchenko, money poured into the country to form a civil society in the right direction.
      I think the economic problems of Ukraine are beneficial to sponsors, the worse the economic situation in the country - the more willing to become a democratic state.
  3. +34
    14 May 2014 15: 58
    Syrian handsome:
    "Listen, I was in France, the outskirts of Marseilles is a 18 century!"
    good
  4. +7
    14 May 2014 15: 59
    Half of Eastern Europe is Slavs, but instead of uniting within the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we fell under the Americans. "
    ..............born to lie cannot fly
    Putin said at a press conference following the Russia-EU summit. : "Now we will not talk about it. This is history. I think that it was again a conspiracy, the bargaining chip in which were small states and small nations. Unfortunately, these were the realities of that life. Just like the realities of the colonial past of European countries, as well as the realities of the use of slave labor in the United States. "
    you always lay under someone, your fate is such
  5. +3
    14 May 2014 15: 59
    It's a pity the XNUMXst century kripaks ...
  6. +9
    14 May 2014 16: 00
    And I'm not surprised that the talk is only about Russia.
    Half of Poland lives and works for Russia. Only PANS OF AUTHORITY DO NOT TRY THIS.
    1. +12
      14 May 2014 16: 22
      Quote: fvandaku
      And I'm not surprised that the talk is only about Russia.
      Half of Poland lives and works for Russia. Only PANS OF AUTHORITY DO NOT TRY THIS.

      You are right in many respects, but I will also note that talking "about Russia" is something like a national hobby of modern Poles - according to the stories of their acquaintances, the Poles were terribly happy in 1991 - they say "terrible Russia has finally died"! But no! Not only she turned out to be alive, but she gradually went up the hill, and Poland - as she was in ... an interesting position, and remained, so the envy of the Poles strangles - on the one hand, Russia inspires respect, on the other, its own exorbitant "gentry" pride makes regret the "lost empire". They can do nothing with Russia - neither fight, nor make friends, so all that remains is to gossip.
      The only good news is that the Poles, who are normal towards Russia, are gradually becoming larger.
  7. +4
    14 May 2014 16: 01
    “All low-professional work - repair of roads, apartments, cleaners, car washers are Ukrainians,” the master of Polish journalism, the famous Putinophobe Witold Mihailovsky, who took me from the station, tells me. “As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians. It's cheap and qualitatively. And the manpower market is inexhaustible. Here is such (smiles) friendship of Slavic peoples ".
    and the whole background of Ukrainian events, especially accession to the EU ...
  8. +16
    14 May 2014 16: 01
    Ukrainians quickly returned to their position, pan - serf. where the independence when to eat hunting ..
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 16: 16
      Genetic memory, be under someone.
      1. +5
        14 May 2014 16: 22
        Quote: aleks77
        Genetic memory, be under someone.

        This is the reality !!! Or are you part of Russia, if not, then wait for democracy, without options.
    2. +10
      14 May 2014 16: 20
      Zapadentsev all history was the Polish litter.
  9. +3
    14 May 2014 16: 04
    You can argue a lot, but in every country there is a beautiful picture, and the outskirts or outback, just juggle with facts, give out wishful thinking ...
  10. +1
    14 May 2014 16: 05
    I apologize for being off topic, is it true that Nalyvaichenko was shot ??? Who heard what?
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  12. +3
    14 May 2014 16: 09
    Europeans see everything through the prism of profit, there is nothing human in them:

    “As a result, from the most knowledgeable Polish expert in“ pipe politics ”I heard a version of the reasons for the Crimean reunification with Russia. It turns out that the South Stream gas pipeline, which is now being laid by Putin across the Black Sea, is to blame.

    “But everything is fine on paper,” Vitold continues, smoking a pipe with the monogram of a Ukrainian trident. “In practice, no. Tectonic analysis showed that a rock stood in the way of South Stream. Up to a kilometer thick! It is unrealistic to break through. There is only one way out - to transfer South Stream to to the north of the sea, where the Ukrainian shelf is located. That is, Crimea. This is a quiet operation, behind which German and American concerns stand. Merkel is indignant, but she is a nesting doll. "
  13. +4
    14 May 2014 16: 10
    Of course, each person has their own opinion about what is happening in Ukraine, what is in Russia, what is abroad, what is in Ukraine itself. So the intellectuals were going to scrape to Lviv, so the tablecloth is expensive, the Bandera people are waiting for them there. But note, no one wants war, only the Maydan people dream about it, because they don’t know anything anymore, and even fight, so rob and shoot unarmed. So they are the stone that draws Ukraine to the bottom.
    1. +3
      14 May 2014 17: 05
      Quote: Thought Giant
      So the intellectuals gathered


      For a city of science (more than fifty universities in Lviv), the status of a hotbed of fascist mr @ zi does not look very logical.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 20: 44
        Quote: Michael_59
        more than fifty universities in Lviv
        For 20 years, too, many universities have spawned, in which they stand in line for diplomas of lawyers, economists, etc. those who have money, and people do not know history, philosophy, political science well enough to understand such subtle matter themselves. The state maintains pride in our victory over the Nazis, but suppresses nationalist movements, and therefore the vast majority of citizens in the country, I think, are against fascism. There, in these years, the state was the backbone of Ukrainian nationalism and Bandera. Universities could not remain the international nursery of pure science. Everything, nmv, is logical.
  14. +1
    14 May 2014 16: 11
    brisk article, non-standard
  15. +4
    14 May 2014 16: 11
    Ukraine first became independent, and then did not notice how its people turned into slaves of Europe.
  16. dik-fort
    +12
    14 May 2014 16: 12
    The West demonizes Putin and his role in Ukrainian events too much, they cannot understand that the Russian people are fed up with groveling in front of the West, that's enough, basta, with or without Putin, the people are tired of apologizing for their history, betraying Russians, being obedient "disciples" of all there Obama and Merkel.
    1. 0
      15 May 2014 19: 15
      Yes, Europe just needs a scarecrow to distract people from a smoothly sinking economy.
  17. +2
    14 May 2014 16: 13
    Wow!!! Even in Poland there are adequate people ... Surprised and pleased ...
    1. +12
      14 May 2014 16: 45
      Yeah, and the most appropriate of them is the Syrian Samuel Musa. )
  18. +4
    14 May 2014 16: 14
    the article slightly embarrassed me in my opinion about the Poles, this petty folk who can only do harm to Russia from the silence. Yes, and more than half of the population of Poland has anti-Russian rhetoric. Really even they have healthy people? This can not but rejoice. Imho. I'm not talking about all the ethnic Poles, among them there are also very worthy people
    1. +10
      14 May 2014 17: 31
      The Poles have no more than half anti-Russian rhetoric, but 90 percent! There are few healthy people, and those with Russian roots. I say this firsthand, but as a result of a 5-year stay in Poland.
      1. +1
        14 May 2014 23: 08
        The gentry’s ambition and the same gentry’s thinking have not changed for 5 centuries.
        You are right.
  19. +8
    14 May 2014 16: 15
    Pithecanthropus-Natsik brought the once prosperous country to such degradation and collapse.
    Although there was a great example in front of my eyes - Switzerland with four official languages.
    Instead of working, they began to flock together and make chaos.
    One word - banderlogi, not capable of anything creative, just jumping all over the herd, as the patients of the ward No. XXUMX.
  20. mvv
    mvv
    +3
    14 May 2014 16: 15
    Ay thanks to the author! The article is a definite plus!
  21. +5
    14 May 2014 16: 16
    A good sketch without claims to global knowledge of the truth ...
    Normal kitchen conversation)))
  22. +14
    14 May 2014 16: 16
    and what is only xoxly? All union republics during the Soviet era lived better than the RSFSR, despite the fact that it was Russia that was the locomotive of industrialization, education, science and law, finally. And that, the "occupier" left and everyone returned to the roots, knee-elbow.
  23. +15
    14 May 2014 16: 17
           
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  25. tnship2
    +2
    14 May 2014 16: 18
    By the way, it’s very comfortable to work with the Poles (ordinary workaholic). Not really that they are politicized. The truth was they spoke in a hellish mixture of English Italian Russian and home-made languages.
  26. +9
    14 May 2014 16: 18
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country

    Finally, it dawned on the Poles that the USA had fucked them in a particularly severe perverted form, turning their brains inside out. Now the brains are coming back, but "who got up first and the sneakers."
    And Musa is good! May God grant us more such allies who at least put in a good word for Russia, it will already be good. May God grant him health!
    1. +1
      15 May 2014 00: 37
      Quote: sso-250659
      And Musa is good!

      Musa is well done!
      But I won’t forgive this for the Syrians: wassat
  27. +2
    14 May 2014 16: 19
    Half of Eastern Europe is Slavs, but instead of uniting within the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we fell under the Americans. "

    Code, does it reach ALL? request
  28. +9
    14 May 2014 16: 21
    A man - a mustache for fifty - also from the Lviv region, regularly goes to Poland to work.

    “I used to mow lawns in Warsaw, but now it’s hard to find such a good job. Now he is working as a farm clerk in the village, at Pan,” the Ukrainian said. “There’s no work at all in Ukraine, but all the collective farms were destroyed. In Pskovskaya Do you happen to come from there? From where? From Kaliningrad? This is where? And in Pskov it was good, there are a lot of churches, it is beautiful. "



    Maydaunam since 2013 everyone was trying to explain that Geyrope needed Euro-integration in order to gain access to minerals, and to move NATO eastward. And the maydauns themselves will work in Geyrop for soldering, they did not believe and now they do not believe. In truth, the smart learns from the mistakes of others, bad at home and only the maydown does not learn from anything, even the classics do not help.
  29. +12
    14 May 2014 16: 21
    “It all depends on how the Slavs understand and feel their relationship to Russia. In fact, if they see in Russia only power - friendly, allied, auxiliary, but, so to speak, external, then nothing has been done and we are far from the goal. But this goal will be achieved only when they sincerely understand that they are one with Russia, when they feel that they are connected with it by that dependence, that organic community, which unite all the components of a single whole, truly living. Alas, how many disasters they will probably have to go through before they accept this point of view in its entirety and with all the consequences.
    The Slavs have the worst enemy, and even more internal than the Germans, Poles, Magyars and Turks. These are their so-called intelligentsia. This is what can finally ruin the Slavic cause, distorting its correct attitude towards Russia. These stupid, stupid, confused intelligentsia still could not understand for themselves that for the Slavic tribes there is no possibility of independent historical life outside their legal and organic dependence on Russia. To be revived by the Slavs, they should first of all plunge into Russia. The Slav masses, of course, instinctively understand this, but that’s the intelligentsia in order to corrupt the instinct. ”

    Excerpt from the letters of Fyodor Tyutchev to Yuri Samarin
    1. +3
      14 May 2014 16: 30
      Quote: Buran
      The Slavs have the worst enemy, and even more internal than the Germans, Poles, Magyars and Turks.
      These are their so-called intellectuals.

      Yes, nothing changes over time. It’s sad.
      Thank you for the excerpt from the letters.
      1. 0
        14 May 2014 16: 45
        " Indeed, if they see in Russia only power - friendly, allied, auxiliary, but, so to speak, external, then nothing has been done and we are far from the goal."
        In my opinion this is more relevant.
  30. 0
    14 May 2014 16: 24
    An article at the tabloid-debiloid level. Time is a pity.
  31. +2
    14 May 2014 16: 24
    "I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read us reports in English!” Continues Mrs. Kowalska-Stus. - This is when there are even fewer differences in Polish and Slovak than in Russian and Ukrainian! What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe are Slavs, but instead of uniting in the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we went under the Americans. "


    Thanks to the author for the informative article. I was glad that there are people who understand the Main Objective of our People.
  32. 0
    14 May 2014 16: 31
    I did not understand the phrase "... was the pan in glasses and a suit of mixed fabrics in the Russian outback ...". Clarify please.
    1. yur
      yur
      +2
      14 May 2014 23: 37
      Quote: kit-kat
      I did not understand the phrase "... was the pan in glasses and a suit of mixed fabrics in the Russian outback ...". Clarify please.
      Let me explain. For the gifted. "Was there a gentleman who is dressed in a cheap suit and wears glasses in a Russian village." laughing
      1. raf
        +1
        15 May 2014 21: 00
        laughing good explanation for kit-kat good hi
  33. +2
    14 May 2014 16: 34
    I kind of noticed it already. As soon as the conversation about the independence of Russians and Russia begins, they immediately talk about imperial ambitions. Well, then let GDP be the most imperial imperial (so that there isn’t enough Putin). It is to the words
    "Putin has an imperial idea and that is worthy of respect."

    And the words
    “Your Crimea has been squeezed by Putin, you are happy, but you don’t understand that billionaires rule you. Billionaires ruled us too, but we threw them off. Our Yanukovych screwed up to the fullest.”

    They say that the people did not understand H. Rene, at least poorly educated. We changed some of the oligarchs to the fascists.
  34. +6
    14 May 2014 16: 40
    Here are those here, but it turns out I live in the 19th century, and everyone thought that at 21, the French comforted one in the 18th century laughing
  35. Rubmolot
    +2
    14 May 2014 16: 41
    Thanks to the author of the article for the information "from the street". It is very important for the formation of your own view in the world of lies of presstitutes.

    ... I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read reports to us in English!

    What to write about this?
    Already this pig, entering the chicken coop, doesn’t code ... and what if American chickens were there.
    1. 120267
      0
      15 May 2014 02: 46
      What information from the street? This is the clear opinion of the "author" and his inventions. Nobody aspires to any Lvov. Think about it.
  36. Escander_84
    +5
    14 May 2014 16: 42
    It is believed that that Musa received education in the Union. Which allows him to draw sensible conclusions now. I have met such people, there is even one Tajik (already of a strongly retirement age). Even in the conditions of impoverished Tajikistan, he now lives far from retirement.
  37. +1
    14 May 2014 16: 45
    Russia is a huge country. That’s why life will never work out
  38. SuperStarLay
    +4
    14 May 2014 16: 56
    "... Looking ahead, I will say that a couple of days later in Poland I met another resident of Lvov - realtor Yuri Kmit. He was already a" normal "Westerner who did not hide his anti-Russian sentiments.

    But he is not inclined to divide Ukraine into black and white: “In recent days, several Donetsk families have asked me to look for apartments in Lviv. This is a professorship, intellectuals. They don’t see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine ".


    The daughter of an officer from Sevastopol was found! Now we know her name: Yury Kmit, a realtor from Lviv.
  39. +3
    14 May 2014 16: 58
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool

    Ordinary Ukrainians fooled by propaganda simply do not understand this, as it is known in the mousetrap, it’s free cheese.
  40. +2
    14 May 2014 16: 58
    zapadentsy as they were lackeys so they remained - they go to Poland to work in a pan ... just to be a slave - you don’t have to think about anything like cattle ...
  41. Oml
    +1
    14 May 2014 16: 59
    A correspondent from the Kaliningrad region? Something inspires thoughts to support the Westerners. The article contains not a single positive comment about Russia. And with the escape of the intelligentsia from the South-East, it's generally cool - right on the bump of the Banderaites. Yes, and my mother comes from the children from St. Petersburg, she cannot scold Russia, because her children "work" there, otherwise she would have expressed how bad it is in Russia and how good it is in Lvov. People, you read the article more closely, this is an obvious disgrace ...
  42. Bakunin
    0
    14 May 2014 17: 04
    The Polish authorities have a negative attitude towards Russia. Normal Poles are just the opposite. Read the media less.
  43. +3
    14 May 2014 17: 13
    It's a shame that the distant Syrian is closer to Russia than the neighbor from Kiev.
    This paradox was created by US ideologists, and before Putin's Russia walked along their liberal path.
    Russia did not lose Ukraine - Russia lost a generation of Ukrainians under the age of 45 years, and this is the future of Kiev, which simply does not exist.
    1. +3
      15 May 2014 00: 52
      rather until the age of 37. I am a little over 43 and I see a huge difference in communicating with 37-year-old compatriots. Moreover, this generation has already passed through the Ukrainian army and was raised there in a completely different way ...
      Our SA was many orders of magnitude higher than the USS (Ukrainian Zbroynі Seely).
  44. +5
    14 May 2014 17: 13
    I was recently in Poland, the opinion of the Poles: Russians are treated with fear and respect, determined by their emphasis on times. Ukrainians are not respected, I would even say, they despise, they are treated like cattle, I really did not understand which Ukrainians they mean oriental or I think westerners, westerners, far east and don’t go to Poland to earn money, but how else can you relate to the Dzhamshutas (collective image, I didn’t want to say anything bad about normal Uzbeks and Tajiks). And by the way, as much vodka (with Poles) as in Poland I probably never drank before.
  45. +5
    14 May 2014 17: 15
    The article is good, although a bit one-sided. The only thing that unites us is the economy. The USSR suffered an economic collapse and all the allies in Europe immediately turned away, turning their policy to 180 degrees. The result turned into a raw materials appendage of Europe with cheap labor. Now with the revival of the economic power of Russia, the former allies are beginning to understand that Russophobia played a cruel joke with them. But there is no turning back, friends are in trouble, and therefore Russia now needs them as cheap labor. And Dill awaits the same. that Russia took back, it is necessary to try very hard. Something like that hi
  46. Palych9999
    +4
    14 May 2014 17: 17
    Stop ALL transit through the "dill" (railway car). there are other ways.
    And not to pump gas, they say, "tyryat", they will cost with "Nord Stream" and the "South Stream" will accelerate
    Then the South-East SAM "will be embarrassed", and the people of Kiev - high on the Maidans march.
    And we will manage, we survived Hitler, we will manage without McDonald's.
    And for the defense industry - it's time to do everything ourselves.
  47. +3
    14 May 2014 17: 22
    Russia will become Great and independent, like an empire, and the Slavic world will be reborn. Article plus!
  48. +10
    14 May 2014 17: 23
    Let's remember their king August. He lived as an eternal beggar, drank, walked, ran from Karl all over Europe. And he strained Russia, demanding material and military help, and always believed that Russia was obliged to defend him. In all of Poland, at all times, they were only decent. " a tankman and a dog. "Smolensk has repeatedly let them know" you are wrong guys ", but they don't see anything beyond their nose.
  49. +7
    14 May 2014 17: 31
    Minute of the classics:
    "It became difficult for me in Poland. Cold and deceitful people live there. I did not know their serpentine tongue, everyone hiss. What do they hiss? It was God who gave them such a serpentine tongue because they are deceitful" M. Gorky. Old Isergil.
  50. +3
    14 May 2014 17: 36
    Musu was respected by him, in fact, our brother
    1. Atoll
      +3
      14 May 2014 18: 30
      Musu knew before, man one hundred percent !!!
  51. +3
    14 May 2014 17: 37
    I urge my colleagues not to be inspired by the sanity of the Poles. Even the most sane Pole differs from the insane only in that he rejects the most mossy, Russophobic mantras, without rejecting traditional Polish dreams and goals. More details can be found on the portal URSA-tm.ru. They forgave us nothing and forgot nothing. All this applies to a greater extent to the Polish elites than to ordinary citizens, who in everyday life treat Russians quite normally.
  52. +2
    14 May 2014 17: 45
    "Listen, I was in France, the outskirts of Marseilles is a 18 century!"

    Whoa! I was repeatedly told something similar about Poland, and about France, and about Portugal... It’s true that I have never been abroad anywhere except Ukraine and Abkhazia ( lol ), but I see no reason not to trust respected people...
    1. +7
      14 May 2014 18: 37
      Quote: retired
      and about Poland, and about France, and about Portugal..

      I haven’t been to France and Portugal, but I have been to Poland, Germany, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria, and Italy. It's different everywhere. But I have never seen such squalor as in Southern Italy. Member of the GXNUMX, by the way. Even in Naples (a city with a population of over a million), there is garbage and dirt on the streets that you won’t see in any Russian or Czech city. And there are plenty of slums in the vicinity of Naples. People literally live in barns.
      A friend of mine lived in the States for 3 months, and not everything is clear there either.
      In short, it's different everywhere. We're not perfect, but we're not worse than everyone else.
    2. +4
      14 May 2014 19: 38
      Well, what is it, that is, that is. Not everywhere you can safely take a walk after 12 noon hi There are areas where the police only enter in crowds, with shotguns and at random. They arrived, took them and quickly left until they got them.
  53. +6
    14 May 2014 17: 49
    The Poles, unlike the stubborn Ukrainians, at least try to analyze the situation, although they understand that they cannot change anything. In general, the lessons of history are of no use.
  54. +2
    14 May 2014 17: 50
    And in Pskov it was good, there were many churches, it was beautiful

    Why was it? Little has changed. Those who thought Pskov was beautiful still think so.
  55. Ivan 63
    +2
    14 May 2014 17: 54
    Yes, Poland has always been both a “political prostitute” and a “jackal of Europe” - this is not a discovery. But Musa was pleased that not everyone is a prostitute.
  56. +5
    14 May 2014 18: 21
    Funny people in Ukraine. Funny is an understatement...
    Billionaires ruled us too, but we overthrew them

    Well, yes, of course. Peace to the huts, war to the palaces. And Poroshenko themselves are about to be elected president. Funny people...
    1. +1
      15 May 2014 00: 52
      Quote: Sour
      Billionaires ruled us too, but we overthrew them
      Well, yes, of course. Peace to the huts, war to the palaces. And Poroshenko themselves are about to be elected president. Funny people...

      In the meantime, the court and the case (elections), they “threw their billionaires straight into the gubernatorial chairs”...
      1. AVIATOR36662
        0
        15 May 2014 01: 19
        What is primary, what is secondary? The wife of the governor of Nizhny Novgorod also has an annual income of about 1,4 billion. Maybe this is how it should be, since it is so? Or are all the spouses of Russian officials brilliant businesswomen? In the case of Vasilyeva, it turned out that even the mistresses are super-genius. We won’t continue, the jingoistic patriots might not like it.
        1. +1
          15 May 2014 16: 28
          Quote: AVIATOR36662
          We won’t continue, the jingoistic patriots might not like it.

          And what, in Russia someone is shouting that “the power of billionaires has been overthrown”?
          Probably not. And especially no one is going to. The Maidans are not visible.
          But the kaklys only squeal that they “fought the oligarchs and defeated them.”
  57. +2
    14 May 2014 18: 45
    Yes, the country is screwed - this one phrase describes the real state of Ukraine. And then it will get worse and worse
  58. +4
    14 May 2014 18: 51
    Well, here it is - the truth of life in all its glory. As part of the USSR, these were free people, but now they are cheap slaves without rights, without freedom and without a homeland. But stubborn - to the point of impossibility.
  59. +1
    14 May 2014 18: 58
    The Poles are simply afraid of Russia, afraid of past memories when they were part of the Russian Empire and after the war before the collapse of the Warsaw Bloc. They are afraid that Russia will capture them again and NATO will not be able to do anything with Russia.
  60. +2
    14 May 2014 19: 05
    ..."In recent days, several families from Donetsk have approached me with a request to find them apartments in Lvov. These are professors, intellectuals...

    Russophobic humanitarians? -it's everywhere. At least in the east, at least in the west...
    1. 310815
      +1
      15 May 2014 21: 17
      at least in Russia
  61. +1
    14 May 2014 19: 25
    Wow! What an interesting article! I read it with great interest and enjoyed it! There would be more of these! A definite plus for the author!
  62. +1
    14 May 2014 19: 33
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    And the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR before the Second World War?
    For some reason, the Poles don’t remember the execution of the Red Army soldiers in 1921, and then they destroyed 16000 spacecraft soldiers, only for this it was necessary to destroy Poland in the Second World War.
  63. Vlad Gore
    +2
    14 May 2014 19: 54
    "I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read us reports in English!” Continues Mrs. Kowalska-Stus. - This is when there are even fewer differences in Polish and Slovak than in Russian and Ukrainian! What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe are Slavs, but instead of uniting in the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we went under the Americans. "
    And who prevents the Poles from being Slavs? You just need to stop groveling before the USA and England. And be friends with Russia. Since Russia is the stronghold of the Slavic world. good
    1. 310815
      +1
      15 May 2014 21: 18
      for the Poles, this is tantamount to stepping on their own throats if they recognize the Russians as equals, and not scum, and abandon their own pseudo-greatness
  64. +3
    14 May 2014 19: 58
    What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe is Slavic, but instead of uniting under the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we fell under the Americans."

    This is the trouble with the Slavs - their disunity. If they could rally around Rus', no one would think it would be enough.
    1. +2
      14 May 2014 20: 07
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      This is the trouble with the Slavs - their disunity

      The Byzantine military theorist known as "Pseudo-Mauritius" wrote back in the 6th century that the Slavs were "always at odds with each other." 15 centuries have passed and nothing has changed.
    2. 0
      16 May 2014 09: 25
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      What are we doing with our Slavic world?

      Yes, the fact of the matter is that we do nothing. And the Anglo-Saxons do everything.

      The position of the pendos is clearly defined - not to allow ANY significant strengthening of any country or bloc ANYWHERE.
  65. +4
    14 May 2014 20: 05
    “All low-professional work - repair of roads, apartments, cleaners, car washers - are Ukrainians.”

    To be honest, I doubt that a good education in this pseudo-state can be obtained at the so-called. sovereign language. At the same time, you will have to learn either Russian or Galician pidgin. Feeling their powerlessness, brainlessness and unpreparedness for some mental stress, they are drawn to the old gentlemen. They were used to having a stake in a known place, now it seems
    they miss him very much. Personally, I doubt that Turgenev had Gerasim in mind in his masterpiece “Mumu”. It is quite obvious that it was Mykola!)))
    1. +4
      14 May 2014 22: 22
      To be honest, I doubt that a good education in this pseudo-state can be obtained at the so-called. sovereign language. At the same time, you will have to learn either Russian or Galician pidgin

      Try to read the text of the association agreement that Ukraine was going to sign. The text is extremely difficult to find for reference: it is not posted on the website of the European Commission, and even in the Ukrainian parliament, which has already voted for signing the agreement, the text exists only in translation into Ukrainian and exclusively in its general part.
      The most important thing - applications that talk about specific conditions for each industry, quotas and time frames and which make up almost 70% of the entire text - were not there.
      The full text is almost a thousand pages written in the language of the Brussels bureaucracy; only a person with special training can get through this jungle. There was a strong opinion that, for the most part, the deputies of the Ukrainian Rada could not read the text either in a truncated or in full version. The Ukrainian language in its abstract legal part has not yet been developed enough to adequately reflect the subtleties of European bureaucracy. Deputies who tried to read the document complained, politically incorrectly, that they would probably be able to understand something in Russian, but they definitely couldn’t understand it in Ukrainian
  66. +1
    14 May 2014 21: 16
    slaves, that’s their ideal, to work for the master
  67. +2
    14 May 2014 21: 23
    The article is normal. Objective.
    And about Poland. A destroyed empire is always a source of regret. Since ancient times, the Poles have aimed at leadership in the Slavic world. At some time they were there. But they lost outright. Lost to Russia. And now this cry of Yaroslavna sounds in almost every conversation of the Pole. And so, in principle, I communicate with many Poles. The author is right that they respect Putin, but they are afraid. They respect strength. They respect what they would like to do themselves. But they can't.
  68. +1
    14 May 2014 22: 45
    Thanks to the author!"
  69. +2
    14 May 2014 22: 56
    There would be more such review articles about the peoples of the European Union and their opinions about Russia for a note, so to speak!
  70. Eugene
    +4
    14 May 2014 22: 57
    Good evening.
    Was on May 10 and 11 in the Polish city of Gdansk. We walked in the evening in the center of the old city with a lot of people, mostly like everywhere else, young people were moderately sober) We spoke Russian everywhere and, to be honest, we thought that we would end up in an unpleasant situation.....but everything turned out okay. The most interesting thing is that when we went into a small restaurant in the evening, a “warm” group was already sitting there, and the Eurovision was on TV. You should have seen how the Poles were rooting for their performers, and then they were cheering for our girls in exactly the same way) As the song says: “they just didn’t let me go, I had to drink”)
    In the hotel and in the shops I also did not notice any biased attitude.
    Maybe it’s not for nothing that the song performed at Eurovision by a group from Poland is translated: “we are Slavs.” Maybe not everything is so critical - I really want to hope so!
  71. +2
    14 May 2014 23: 04
    Psheks will fall under anyone, even Papua New Guinea, if they give them bananas for free. They only hate Muscovites with fierce hatred. The roots are old, from the times of Kievan Rus. When Svyatopolk the Accursed brought them to Kiev, he settled them in the surrounding villages and in Kiev itself , they began to rob and rape local residents, which infuriated the people of Kiev, they began to slaughter the Poles at their quarters, and in the end they kicked them out. Offense! Another insult is that Prince Vladislav and the Cossacks did not take the throne in Moscow. They blew the Psheks and their henchmen Minin and Pozharsky away from that Moscow! What they cannot forgive us is THREE SECTIONS of Poland! That Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is gone! They squandered it at diets and sejmiks! Even the exiled Poles tried to harm the Russian Empire! In particular, the exiled Confederates poisoned one of the Russian military leaders sent to fight the villain Emelka Pugachev. This is interestingly described by the incomparable Saltykov-Shchedrin in his masterpiece “The History of a City.” In the forefront of Napoleon's army were the hating Poles. Let's go with the riffraff again! After the first imperialist war, they received the much-desired independence. And after the Polish-Soviet war of the 20s, about 200 thousand Soviet prisoners of war were killed in concentration camps! Mostly these were the so-called. Ukrainians! It is not surprising that Joseph Vissarionovich shot the most rabid in Katyn! Moreover, the number of deaths is greatly exaggerated! And it continues to this day! We are a tolerant, forgiving and forgetful people... AND THEY WILL NEVER FORGIVE US FOR THIS!!!
    1. 310815
      +1
      15 May 2014 21: 21
      bull's eye, +100
  72. Kisel
    +1
    14 May 2014 23: 04
    Europe fell under the USA. and together they want to destroy the whole world. we've already been through this. War monuments are being dismantled in Poland and other countries... a holy place... we will build it again soon
    (it is necessary to build monuments, in some countries, with a detonator... moths fly to the lamp with fascist slogans, crowd together, demand the demolition of the monument to Peace (of the Putin regime), especially radical elements begin dismantling... and silence... peace...work...spring))
  73. Pilot_Petrenko
    0
    14 May 2014 23: 41
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    And the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR before the Second World War?

    Well, the fact that Medvedev admitted this PERSONALLY is his right. Based on materials from international forensic experts, the Nuremberg court determined guilt for this act.
  74. Pilot_Petrenko
    +2
    14 May 2014 23: 50
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    And after the Second World War, absolutely innocent people often fell under the skating rink of Beria’s service.

    When you accuse someone by name, then look at yourself as the executor of someone’s will. How correctly did you perform it? How correctly did you UNDERSTAND what needs to be done? And, in general, are you the one who can fulfill this even CORRECT will without distorting it?
    1. AVIATOR36662
      0
      15 May 2014 01: 32
      Here on the forum we are only stating. And specific comrades have long been accused by professional prosecutors of special services, sentences were passed and they were carried out. No matter how one feels about this, and despite everyone’s personal understanding. But I will gladly give a plus for such an elaborate expression.
  75. +4
    15 May 2014 00: 07
    I was in Poland, worked there (business trip). The average statistical gentleman is a pompous man with Greater Poland conceit, a narrow-minded person, foaming at the lips to prove the greatness of the Polish nation (while his ass is covered in patches, and his shirtfront rests on his bare chest). Of course, in Poland there are all kinds, but their puffing out of their cheeks is special - Polish. bully
  76. 0
    15 May 2014 00: 08
    Poland as a PROSTITUTE. whoever paid has it. Therefore, the opinion of Poland is the opinion of AMERICANS
  77. Pilot_Petrenko
    +1
    15 May 2014 00: 23
    Quote: anfil
    The Ukrainian language in its abstract legal part has not yet been developed to adequately reflect the subtleties of European bureaucracy. Deputies who tried to read the document complained, politically incorrectly, that in Russian they would probably still be able to understand something, but in Ukrainian they certainly could not can


    similarly in other, conditionally international, and in fact artificially international formations (like our independent republics invented by Yeltsin).
    Before playing political cards, you need to learn the rules, you need to create YOUR OWN cards, you need to learn to recognize the marks of other people's cards and skillfully mark your own. And so - he proclaimed himself an international subject, ran to diplomacy, but it turns out, like in the nineties at the station, he agreed to play thimbles... Greece will not let you lie.
  78. shitovmg
    0
    15 May 2014 01: 02
    In 1918, the Budenovites walked through them well, but they still didn’t understand what it was...
  79. Evgtan
    +3
    15 May 2014 06: 20
    “After Europe fucks Hohlopithecus, Putin will be to blame. This is the funniest thing. »
  80. +5
    15 May 2014 06: 45
    And when we had Gorbachev and Yeltsin, were we also so brave, smart, correct? Russia stood on the edge, the shit was already visible, like the ass of a monkey. They sold everything and everyone. And we remained silent, but suffered for the victims of Stalin and other communist repressions. It’s good now, under Putin, we can afford some reasons for pride. Although in those days we were different from the current Ukrainian nationals. I mean ordinary Russians, not Muscovites, who, in my opinion, have always felt themselves to be the height of the evolution of Russian man, just as the Ukrainian Natsiks feel themselves to be the height of human evolution. Therefore, why throw stones at our neighbors, look, we have Muscovites, bourgeois, state rank is no better even now. It’s a pity for the Ukrainians - they have been brainwashed for so many years, and this is still on their old national complexes, like yeast in the toilet.
  81. +1
    15 May 2014 07: 09
    The article is normal. Objective.
    And about Poland. A destroyed empire is always a source of regret. Since ancient times, the Poles have aimed at leadership in the Slavic world. At some time they were there. But they lost outright. Lost to Russia. And now this cry of Yaroslavna sounds in almost every conversation of the Pole. And so, in principle, I communicate with many Poles. The author is right that they respect Putin, but they are afraid. They respect strength. They respect what they would like to do themselves. But they can't.
  82. 0
    15 May 2014 07: 20
    Quote: mig31
    It's a pity the XNUMXst century kripaks ...


    They chose this fate for themselves.
  83. vor4un
    +2
    15 May 2014 07: 32
    I don’t dare speak for official history, this is thin ice and it is different in each country, but humanly we have always had ambiguous relations with the Poles. Age-old grievances, unfortunately, are of great importance for many.
  84. +1
    15 May 2014 09: 35
    But he is not inclined to divide Ukraine into black and white: “In recent days, several Donetsk families have asked me to look for apartments in Lviv. This is a professorship, intellectuals. They don’t see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine ".


    The truth is, they probably ended up in Donetsk by assignment, to bring the truth and language to the masses, so to speak... to Ukrainianize the “rabble”.
  85. +2
    15 May 2014 11: 02
    They show us the beautiful west. Paris - blooming chestnut and fresh croissant for breakfast. Bavaria - beer, sausages and busty girls. Etc.. But is it really that good there?

    Once, back in my childhood, I came to the village where I was born to stay with my grandmother. My friend was with me, who saw the cow in the picture. For me, this “rest” included getting up early, doing housework, preparing berries and mushrooms for my grandmother, and in the evening I had to meet the cattle. In general, there was enough work. But my friend enjoyed his vacation. We got up at 10, then the lake, then... yes, he was completely free. And he really liked it. And his main thought was - I want to live in the village, because it’s so wonderful there.

    And everyone who goes to Europe on a tour package tells how good it is there. Those who went there to work talk little about the beauty, more and more about the people, their attitude towards visitors and how difficult it is for a migrant to live there.
    I think we need to show more of this kind of Europe, without croissants and sausages. Young people must understand that there is no sugar there and they have to work everywhere. And if you know how to work, then you can live well in your homeland. And those who cannot find themselves here and flee to the west are weak people. They are unlikely to succeed in the West.
  86. 0
    15 May 2014 11: 16
    Interesting version about Crimea and South Stream..
  87. 0
    15 May 2014 11: 23
    All over Europe, ordinary people are fed up with the Americans and their attitude towards Russia is slowly, very slowly, but changing.
  88. +1
    15 May 2014 11: 34
    Ukrainians work as laborers in Poland, and Polish officials receive fat chunks of Ukraine as their property.
    In addition to the son of the US Vice President and friend of the US Secretary of State, a piece of the Ukrainian oil and gas pie went to another “winner of Ukraine” - former Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski. It was he who was a key figure in the EU’s efforts to attract Ukraine to the West. While Viktor Yanukovych was in power, Kwasniewski flew to the country 27 times, attempting to free the Ukrainian president's main political opponent, Yulia Tymoshenko.
    However, this degenerate was added to the Ukrainian feeding trough for a reason. Against the background of the collapse of the army of Ukraine itself, for the happiness of working with Biden’s son and Kerry’s friend, the Poles were assigned the role of cannon fodder.
    Poland is ready to train and send to Ukraine up to 10 thousand “counter-saboteurs” - volunteers from among the former military. About a thousand military experts have already been selected and are ready to be transferred across the border. It is expected that the first group of Polish “counter-saboteurs” will take up combat duty in the Ukrainian southeast even before the presidential elections, which are scheduled to take place on May 25. The main intrigue here is on what basis and in what status will foreigners fight with the Ukrainian people on their own land? As the unforgettable Leiba “Trotsky”-Bronstein used to say, “The art of a commander is to make non-Jews kill non-Jews with non-Jewish hands.”
  89. +1
    15 May 2014 14: 23
    I lived in Poland for almost five years (business trip), I understood one thing: “Pole” is not a nationality, “Pole” is a profession.
  90. albolo
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    15 May 2014 19: 23
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    .What about the execution of Polish soldiers in the USSR before the Second World War?

    Yes? And do you have facts to support this? Or do you, like the Poles and Americans, still use the developments of Dr. Goebbels? Look, the Germans occupied Smolensk back in the summer of 1941, and the “burials of Poles shot by Stalin” were “unexpectedly” discovered in 1943, when the Nazis were approaching and there was an urgent need to set the allies at odds. Isn't it strange? There is NOT A SINGLE RELIABLE document confirming that we spread the Poles. And the documents presented were rejected as unreliable by our court in the early 90s and more recently by the European Court. And your “documents” were concocted by the Yeltsins and Yakovlevs, who were preparing a trial against the CPSU and the Soviet government in the early 90s.
  91. albolo
    0
    15 May 2014 19: 29
    “In recent days, several families from Donetsk have approached me with a request to find them apartments in Lvov. These are professors, the intelligentsia. They do not see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine.”)))))))))) ))))))

    Cool! It turns out that the scientific and cultural center of Ukraine and all of Europe is Lviv?))) This is a small town that has become depopulated and wild under its Nazism??? And what are the achievements in science and culture that have glorified Lviv in the world over the past 23 years of independence??? What do Lviv produce? besides Banderaism? Nothing!
  92. albolo
    +1
    15 May 2014 19: 36
    Quote: jktu66
    and the Poles, and the French, and the British


    And there is also in history the Polish army of Anders, which the USSR armed, clothed, shod, during its most difficult period. So the cowardly Poles sat in the Orenburg region until the Battle of Stalingrad, and then completely fled to Iran.
    We must not forget about the Home Army, which actively killed our soldiers, operating in the rear of the Red Army on the territory of liberated Poland.
  93. Nasrat
    0
    16 May 2014 00: 47
    After communicating with Poles - from bloggers to professors - it became clear: these Slavic people are very acutely worried that they are rapidly flying past History.

    I'm wildly sorry, but since when did the Poles become SLAVS? Maybe they are also Orthodox?
    1. 0
      16 May 2014 13: 11
      Well, imagine once upon a time. Wikipedia "Polish Orthodox Church"
      Monasteries 11
      Parishes 233
      Believers approx. 600
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  97. 0
    16 May 2014 13: 39
    By the way, a very interesting fact, maybe they’re lying,
    but Wikipedia has a map
    Map of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (1635) File:Polish-Lithuanian-Commonwealth-1635-ru.png
    Poke your nose into everyone who is maidan and with foggy brains.
    On the territory of Peremysl, Lvov, Galich, the principality is called Russian!
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  99. 0
    16 May 2014 13: 43
    And here is a Polish source, so now let all the “Maidanized” Poles accuse them of selling out to the m-skals. laughing
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