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“Yes kapets to the country”: a REGNUM report from “Ukrainian” Poland.

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Not long ago, I returned from the city of Rzeszow, where I was invited to the VI Congress of Polish geopolitics. To get to Rzeszow from Kaliningrad, it was necessary to cover the whole of Poland from north to south and back. And everywhere I heard two words - Russia and Ukraine.


“It was amazing,” I wrote on the first evening of my travel notes. But now I correct: "This is not surprising." The fact is that after communicating with the Poles - from bloggers to professors - it became clear: this Slavic people are very worried that they are flying by Stories. Once again flies past history. First of all, it is connected with the awareness of the collapse of his childhood dream - the creation of Wielkopolska from sea to sea. Communicating with me, the Poles respected the "imperial idea" of Russia - the annexation of the Crimea and ambitions to the Ukrainian South-East, realizing that there should be no two "imperial ideas" on one piece of Europe, and that means that there should be a cross during the revival of Intermarine . However, first things first.

“Yes kapets to the country”: a REGNUM report from “Ukrainian” Poland.
Road workers in the south-east of Poland ("As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians")


Wrong zapadentsy and Donetsk

The “Ukrainian” theme started playing even in Kaliningrad, when the bus to Warsaw for five hours became a tiny “Soviet Union”. Of the seven passengers, two of them had passports of Moldova and Ukraine, and three more were born in Kazakhstan and Lithuania. I want to tell about this Ukrainian woman, how she jokingly called herself, "the wrong zapadenke". Through a chair from me sat this woman with five dozen behind her back and painted in pitch smol. She herself lives in Lviv, and the children - in St. Petersburg.

“How can I blame Russia if my children work there?” She smiles guiltily. “Yes, they rent housing, yes, they work not at all for prestigious jobs, but they are still young — they will earn money for an apartment and for a living.”

The Ukrainian woman returns from her children (through Kaliningrad) to her “zapadensky” Lviv and admits that she has to keep silent about the trip. At parting, she gives me a hryvnia. I choose 5 kopecks, but she puts all the little things on her palm with the words: "Take more. Now this is nothing."

Looking ahead, I will say that after a couple of days in Poland, I met another resident of Lviv - realtor Yuri Kmit. It was already a “normal” zapadenets, not hiding anti-Russian sentiment.

But he is not inclined to divide Ukraine into black and white: “In recent days, several Donetsk families have asked me to look for apartments in Lviv. This is a professorship, intellectuals. They don’t see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine ".

"Yes kapets country"

In the morning at the Warsaw bus station Zakodny through one speak surzhik. Ukrainians scary a lot! This is a real working class. Aunts with big-bellied bauls, men with suave mugs. Taxi drivers take care of them and monotone in tolerable Russian: “To Lviv? Tiraspol Taxi”. But the Ukrainian people save money, quietly waiting for the flight in five hours. I, who grew up in the Soviet backwater, immediately remembered the morning bus station in the Zauralsky district center of Tselinnoe, where 30 years ago, there were also hard workers waiting for their “PAZika”, and flying over them, pissing, pigeons. If it were not for Wi-Fi, then no difference.

I spoke with one Ukrainian. Rather, as I talked: it was enough to get out of the door of the bus station and meet the eyes of the first peasant he asked for a cigarette. I had no cigarettes, but the stranger could not be stopped. In ten minutes, he told me his biography, praised Putin and Yanukovych, and gave a forecast for the future.

A man - a mustache for fifty - also from the Lviv region, regularly goes to Poland to work.

“I used to mow lawns in Warsaw, but now it’s hard to find such a good job. Now he is working as a farm clerk in the village, at Pan,” the Ukrainian said. “There’s no work at all in Ukraine, but all the collective farms were destroyed. In Pskovskaya Do you happen to come from there? From where? From Kaliningrad? This is where? And in Pskov it was good, there are a lot of churches, it is beautiful. "

When asked whether he wanted to simply be part of Poland, Putin took the Crimea, the peasant smirks with his gray mustache: “Nah, I want to live in Ukraine. And I can easily travel to Poland on a work visa. 400 costs hryvnia. You go to the consulate with paper from Mr., for whom you work, and you calmly spank visa. "

Having lit up, the crest practiced in analytics: "Putin has depressed your Crimea, you rejoice, but you do not understand that billionaires rule you. We also ruled billionaires, but we got rid of them. Our Yanukovych fucked up." But on the question of the future of Ukraine without billionaires, throws: "Yes kapets country."

"Merkel is indignant, but she is a doll"

Polyakov quite satisfied that the Ukrainians slave them. At the same Warsaw railway station in Zakhodniy, stickers with the appeal in Russian: "Looking for a job in Poland? Call" are hanging on each pillar. It is in Warsaw, which is three hundred miles from the Ukrainian border, but what is happening in the border areas of Lublin and Rzeszow?

“All low-professional work - repair of roads, apartments, cleaners, car washers are Ukrainians,” the master of Polish journalism, the famous Putinophobe Witold Mihailovsky, who took me from the station, tells me. “As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians. It's cheap and qualitatively. And the manpower market is inexhaustible. Here is such (smiles) friendship of Slavic peoples ".

79-year-old Witold Mihailovsky is one of the legends of Poland. He is the founder and editor of the magazine with the furious name "Pipeline". In Polish, it sounds ridiculous - "Rurochёnga". In a conversation with each counter and cross Pan Mikhailovsky repeats this patter: "Rurochёngi-gazochyongi, handlers-gazochyongi". But this ridiculous name for ten years as acquired a serious geopolitical connotation. And today, even more so. The editor is asked for comments by all and sundry. As a result, I heard a version of the reasons for the Crimean reunification with Russia from the most knowledgeable Polish expert in “pipe politics”. The fault is, it turns out, the South Stream gas pipeline (South Stream), which Putin is currently laying through the Black Sea.

“But everything is good on paper,” continues Witold, smoking a pipe with a monogram of a Ukrainian trident. “In practice, no. Tectonic analysis showed that a rock rose on the way of South Stream. It is impossible to break through it up to a kilometer! It’s impossible to translate South Stream to the north of the sea, where the Ukrainian shelf is located. That is, Crimea. This is a quiet operation, behind which German and American concerns stand. Merkel is indignant, but she is a little doll. "

Mikhailovski, feeding in his garden of red fish in the pond, puts the last trump card: "25 years ago geological exploration was done in the northern part of the Black Sea. And it turned out that there is a lot of oil and gas in the area of ​​the Ukrainian shelf. Very a lot! This is closer to the South-East of Ukraine. Therefore, the South-East will become Russian. Human rights? Nonsense. "

In tobacco smoke, you see the contented face of Mr. Witold. And it is not clear what he is more satisfied with - his version or Putin's grip. I decided to ask about the Polish political elite. In response, he heard: "Tusk - g ... but!"

“We can not buy gas from Russia and for that we don’t need a shale revolution,” Mikhailovsky explains. “There is a very interesting prospect in Poland — the use of geothermal sources. But the Poles do not have the strength of mind. We are degenerate.”

"We went under the Americans"

For a few days, other Polish citizens also told me about the lack of strength of spirit among the Poles. For example, the professor of the Jagiellonian University from Krakow, Hanna Kowalska-Stus.

“For me, as for the Polish people, it’s a shame that if earlier Poland implemented the policy of the USSR, today it implements the policy of the United States. Again, this is not our national policy!” - exclaims the professor. In her opinion, "Putin has an imperial idea, and it is worthy of respect."

“But Poland is not able to exist independently, we do not have our own idea, our own Polish civilization way,” echoes its professor Anna Razhna from the Jagiellonian University. “Our politicians are slaves, American slaves.”

"I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read us reports in English!” Continues Mrs. Kowalska-Stus. - This is when there are even fewer differences in Polish and Slovak than in Russian and Ukrainian! What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe are Slavs, but instead of uniting in the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we went under the Americans. "

The paralysis of Polish thought was also confirmed by the well-known Polish blogger, creator of Television People’s, Eugeniusz Sendetsky. Pan is a doctor by profession, and Internet TV is a hobby whose level of popularity is characterized, for example, by such an example. A video with teenagers playing football in front of the church, around which several hundred Polish Catholics pray, scored 1,5 million views.

So, according to Sendetsky, the opinion in the Polish blogosphere, at least a little different from the general European propaganda formula - “Putin is a new Hitler” - is immediately declared seditious, and such a blogger is called a “Russian agent”.

"Pravoseki - those-rro-ri-areas!"

At the congress, I remember most of all the master of the University of Wroclaw, Samuel Musa. Musa (everyone called him that, considering that this name) is a Syrian, but he has been living in Poland for ten years. So, he for Russia, it seems, will stuff his face. For example, when one of the Polish young political politicians tried to defend the Ukrainian "pravosekov", Musa stood up and pushed a speech, simple as Damascus steel:

"What kind of opposition is this ?! These are the terrorists who were prepared by the Americans. Those-rr-ri-tsy! We did exactly the same thing in Syria. The United States nurtured such" oppositionists "with the same national slogans. But we know that they were all killers. "

How Putin will react to the results of the referendum in the east of Ukraine?
In the coffee breaks, Musa wedged into groups of doctors and masters who criticized Russia without any European sentiments and defended Russia. I will cite such a dialogue. One Polish political scientist, in my opinion, of the University of Rzeszow, painted to his colleagues: "What is Russia? Stop in any village - there is also a 19 century!"

The author of these lines just wanted to ask whether the pan was in eyewear and a mixed-fabric suit in the Russian outback, as Musa issued:

"Listen, I was in France, the outskirts of Marseilles is a 18 century!"
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 14 May 2014 15: 56
    +112
    Plus article. An unusual look at the Poles.
    Recently, I began to look differently at the Germans, Poles, and Ukrainians.
    Only about the Yankees, the opinion has not changed.
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 14 May 2014 16: 10
      +80
      Unusual, I agree.
      Only an interesting situation is obtained by looking in retrospect ...
      Polish pans historically sat on the necks of Ukrainians and spread their rot as they could.
      Ukrainians fled to Russia.
      Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.

      Where is the logic?
      1. Ased
        Ased 14 May 2014 16: 18
        +44
        Quote: Baikal
        Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.
        Where is the logic?


        It is strange that I will write this: but simply they have not received 3,14zdy for a long time from the Nazis, Napoleons and others like them. They forgot and did not give a damn about the history, and their help and support to Russia.
        Found a richer new "friend" and betrayed the old one.
        1. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 14 May 2014 17: 39
          +5
          You have to be very careful with history! If the Poles fought in Napoleon's army against Russia even in separate subdivisions and units, then on the side of the fascists against the USSR (Russia), the Poles almost never fought, apart from individual cases, but not on the side of the fascists. Faith that is different from Orthodoxy is old and almost "eternal" the reason for Poland's rejection of Russia. And the rest of the grievances are always more than enough. And the setting of Poland in its place in 1613, and the suppression of the uprising in Poland by Suvorov, where Suvorov simply had mercy on the Poles. And the suppression of the Polish uprising in Warsaw by the Nazis already at the end of the Second World War, the Poles "wrote off" on the unwillingness of the USSR army to help, not taking into account the strategic nuances. And the shooting in the USSR of the Polish military before the Second World War? And after the Second World War absolutely innocent people often fell under the skating rink of Beria's service. Memory is a very strong thing! So you really need to be careful with the story. Chocolate is often bitter.
          1. Ased
            Ased 14 May 2014 18: 19
            +25
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            You must be very careful with the story! ...


            Oh, how right you are! But now history is interpreted by all countries, in any direction they desire and from any point of view.

            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            Memory is a very strong thing!


            Alas! Not at all. She's too selective. The bad is remembered for centuries, the good is not mentioned immediately after the "thank you".
          2. smile
            smile 14 May 2014 18: 31
            +71
            AVIATOR36662
            Yes, in the Napoleonic army of the Poles there were almost a quarter, and they fought not in units, but in formations and corps ... but from June 22, May 41 to May 9, we captured more than 45 thousand Poles - a third more than Italians, a separate case is good if they came to us with the Germans much more than Hitler's official allies - Italians. And this despite the fact that it seems that since 60 years old, a POW who was a prisoner of war expressed a desire to fight against the Germans, he was sent after verification to the national Polish units without even having a prisoner of war card ... and our Poles surrendered much more reluctantly than Italians.
            Well, the fact that the Poles turned out to be prettier than the version of the shootings in Katyn created by Goebbels, rather than the truth - so this is not a complaint to us. Yes, part of the Polish war criminals suffered a well-deserved punishment, but we shot at times less than Hitler’s propaganda imputes them to us, and not in Katyn. And there was no talk of any mass shootings on the lists - everyone got his own according to a court verdict. In the end, someone had to be responsible for the barbarous destruction of 80 thousand of our military, for the Ukrainian and Belarusian villages burned by the gendarmerie, for the thousands of executed people .... by the way, the Poles were engaged in this fascinating activity even in September 39 ... So that is selective memory, especially the memory of that. what was not is a much stronger thing. than memory .... With memory at the bottom, on the contrary, everything is bad - they don’t remember. what they got in the teeth only when they tried to enslave us, they don’t remember how they were friends with Hitler, hoping to share the USSR with him, how Czechoslovakia was shared with him .... they don’t remember that Russophobic politics led Poland to collapse. They do not want to remember.

            For Katyn I recommend - Vladislav Shved. "Katyn. Modern history of the issue." perhaps the most successful book on the topic.
            1. jktu66
              jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 24
              +4
              June 22, May 41 to May 9, we captured more than 45 thousand Poles
              Documented. and the Poles, and the French, and the British, and even the Brazilian saw Siberia captive with the Germans
            2. raf
              raf 15 May 2014 20: 30
              +3
              Quite right. Each Pole individually is even less human, but when there are more than 2 of them, it’s something. In one word, it’s a dirty folk! What a long way to go, even if Churchill, an ardent hater of everything Soviet, wrote about Poland as a hyena of Europe. That says a lot. And the Poles still dare to be offended. In Katyn, I recommend Yuri Mukhin! Absolute objective book.
              1. demon184
                demon184 16 May 2014 12: 55
                +2
                As they said about dill, I don’t remember exactly. 1 Ukrainian is nothing, 2 partisan detachment, 3 is a partisan detachment with a traitor.
              2. Commissar of the NKVD
                Commissar of the NKVD 17 May 2014 12: 49
                0
                Quote: raf
                According to Katyn, I recommend Yuri Mukhin! Absolute objective book

                "Anti-Russian meanness?" Or are there any more on this topic?
          3. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 14 May 2014 19: 56
            +26
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            So you really need to be careful with the story.

            So let's see your accuracy with Lady Clea.
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            on the side of the fascists against the USSR (Russia), the Poles almost did not fight, not counting isolated cases, but not on the side of the fascists.

            Let's go through your phrase from the end. A number has long been on the Internet: more than 60 thousand Poles in German uniform were captured by the Red Army during the Second World War, i.e. after 1941. On which side (practically!) Did the AK fight, shooting, as did the Bandera men at the Red Army?
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            And under the rink of Beria’s service after the Second World War, they often fell completely innocent people.

            ...captured with arms in hand.
            About Polish innocent lambs you tell pshekam, they will assent to you.
          4. EvilLion
            EvilLion 14 May 2014 20: 11
            +21
            But there is no need to lie, there were enough mobilized Poles in the German army and their losses in the Wehrmacht were 2 times higher than the losses of those killed in the anti-Hitler coalition.

            And the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR before the Second World War?


            One of Goebbels’s many attempts to blame his own crimes on the NKVD.
          5. Bormental
            Bormental 14 May 2014 20: 15
            +13
            "The number of prisoners of war from June 22, 1941 to September 2, 1945
            Poles - 60.280 ", - a quote from pedivikia. Multiply at least 2 (dead, otmazatsya), - not so little fought against us.
          6. cheega69
            cheega69 14 May 2014 20: 34
            +7
            Pilot, even Europe has already recognized that the shooting under the Katyn of the Poles was the work of the Germans. You state the opposite only you and ..... Putin.
            1. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 14 May 2014 21: 06
              -1
              It is unlikely that they could have “slipped” biased data to Putin. He did not come from that organization so as not to know the essence of the matter. I think everyone will have to agree with Putin on this tragic historical issue.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 15 May 2014 01: 40
                +2
                Quote: cheega69
                only you and ..... Putin

                Quote: AVIATOR36662
                everyone will have to agree with Putin

                Here it is! One lied, the other agreed, but the sediment remained)). The information war - it is such an information)).
            2. jktu66
              jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 27
              +5
              Pilot, even Europe has already recognized that the shooting under the Katyn of the Poles was the work of the Germans.
              Recognized by everyone except the Poles and some Russians
              1. demon184
                demon184 16 May 2014 12: 58
                0
                Yes, even if they shot it right, Stalin didn’t do anything he thought. If they were released, they would receive a knife from them in the back.
          7. WedVolga
            WedVolga 14 May 2014 21: 13
            +10
            You need to be very careful with the story! What kind of tales about the shooting of the Polish military in the USSR? If you mean the shooting of Polish officers near Katyn, then in Europe, as well as in Russia, this issue has already been resolved. Be careful with the story!
            1. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 15 May 2014 00: 41
              0
              The conclusion has long been made by a very competent commission at the highest level and voiced by the first persons of Russia! Continuing to persist in your ignorance is a rather interesting trait.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 15 May 2014 01: 47
                +1
                Quote: AVIATOR36662
                The conclusion has long been made by a very competent commission

                Do you mean the commission of the US Congress in 1943?
              2. raf
                raf 15 May 2014 20: 35
                +1
                Yeah! A very bought, corrupt "competent commission" and the same corrupt State Duma deputy voiced this libel!
          8. basmach
            basmach 14 May 2014 22: 10
            +11
            but for some reason everyone forgets about the shooting by the Poles of the Red Army in the 20's during the war with Poland and the unsuccessful campaign against Warsaw. Well, they don’t like to remember the Poles about it, they remember the memory of them.
            1. jktu66
              jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 29
              +4
              but for some reason everyone forgets about the shooting by the Poles of the Red Army in the 20's during the war with Poland and the unsuccessful campaign against Warsaw. Well, they don’t like to remember the Poles about it, they remember the memory of them.
              Not so much shot as they were frozen in concentration camps
              1. demon184
                demon184 16 May 2014 13: 02
                +1
                This is a purely Polish trait, remember only what is beneficial to them. the Poles only think how they can create an empire from sea to sea, a dwarf complex. According to the author, Putin is respected only for imperial ambitions, they judge Russia by their petty and miserable complexes. And they can’t understand that Poland didn’t rest against Russia.
            2. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 15 May 2014 00: 51
              -8
              And here you have to be realistic. Not with a humanitarian mission came to Poland the Red Army Cavalry, which was completely defeated. But nothing can be fixed.
              1. raf
                raf 15 May 2014 20: 38
                +3
                Let it be known to you that Comrade Budyonny in Poland you praised was not close to the spirit, and in the face the Poles handed over your idol Tukhachevsky, the executioner Kronstadt and Tambov.
              2. Ghost53
                Ghost53 16 May 2014 21: 05
                0
                Aviator, you again showed your ignorance. Pilsudski did not defeat Budyonny, but Tukhachevsky. Be careful with the story!
          9. Vasek
            Vasek 14 May 2014 23: 52
            +4
            Quote: AVIATOR36662
            Chocolate is often bitter.

            Dark chocolate is often the purest and most correct of chocolates.
            And we can remember a lot of grievances - and the Time of Troubles, and the White Poles, etc.
            But with the fact that insults and emotions interfere with the objective perception of what is happening and what is happening - I absolutely agree!
            1. raf
              raf 15 May 2014 20: 42
              +1
              Yes, we do not take offense at the Poles for their "pranks" bloody in the Time of Troubles, the Moscow Kremlin, for Susanin, and we do not present any accounts for their actions. So the noble gentlemen could quiet down, but no, they stink all over Europe, venal.
          10. jktu66
            jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 21
            -2
            You have to be very careful with the story!
            Take a look at the history of Poland and Russia. Just not what we were stuffed with earlier. Now there are a lot of reliable materials on the network. hi
            1. smith7
              smith7 16 May 2014 05: 08
              +1
              Was the credibility assessed personally? Compared to "absolutely accurate data"? Have you seen everything yourself? PS The words "Network" and "reliable materials" are not combined, tk. more often than not this is not true.
          11. Ghost53
            Ghost53 16 May 2014 20: 45
            0
            Aviator, you said that you have to be very careful with history. And you are right. The only pity is that you yourself do not know the stories. Do not be lazy, look at the data on the number of Wehrmacht soldiers and officers taken prisoner in the Second World War, broken down by nationality. The Poles occupy not the last line there. Even Jewish soldiers of the Wehrmacht, and then there are more than 10000. Second. Everyone has long known that Polish officers were shot by the Germans in September 41. It is a pity that you still do not know this. Read - Y. Mukhin "Katyn detective" and "Anti-Russian meanness"
        2. soyuz-nik
          soyuz-nik 15 May 2014 00: 44
          0
          I wish you good health! Allow me not to agree with you on everything!

          I think that one of the greatest human "sins" (not in a religious, but in a secular sense) is to deceive ourselves (excluding, perhaps, cases when, for example, a wife is waiting for a husband from the war, or a husband in a war believes that waiting for him, etc.).

          Question: Was the USSR a really good friend for Poland? However, as for other members of the so-called. social camp .... I doubt it ...

          I remember in the early 90s, when the USSR was falling, the Russians interviewed from the TV broadcast: if we get rid of the slips from other republics - and we will live! I remember when in 93 Russia introduced the new ruble, how many "wooden" ones poured into Kazakhstan and other former republics. USSR, which by that time had not acquired their own currencies ...

          Now Russia has a new trend - to collect land .... And, in my opinion, this can only be welcomed. But the sense of this will be ONLY if the corresponding conclusions are drawn from history ... (although, as they say, history teaches us that it does not teach us anything. Option: life teaches us intelligibly, but expensive) ...

          I think that the goal of Russia in collecting lands should be the CONQUEST OF CONFIDENCE of other peoples, and the SOFT POWER (an economy that works less on raw materials, culture, technology, education, science, art, medicine, etc., should become the tool). e. that in which Russia (USSR) has so far lost in many respects to the West).

          As they say, be simpler, and people will reach for you. And there you look - and the military-political situation will change ... and then we'll see who will threaten someone with a finger and read out the sanctions lists.

          May the Force be with us! bully
          1. iConst
            iConst 15 May 2014 14: 20
            +1
            Quote: soyuz-nik
            and the SOFT POWER (an economy that works less on raw materials, culture, technology, education, science, art, medicine, etc., that is, in which Russia (the USSR) is still lost to the West

            I disagree - just the USSR tried to do all this. Another thing is that he did it through ... "socialist" economy, ignoring social and market laws.
            And the term "SOFT POWER" is not applicable here - interest is the best motivation.

            If you look at the slipping of the same vehicle and other projects of the countries of the former USSR, the main reason is that Russia, as the main player, wants to act as a kind of "metropolis". On the one hand, this can be understood - the weight of the economy must be taken into account. On the other hand, the rest of the participants feel on the sidelines, and this, at least, is insulting.
          2. demon184
            demon184 16 May 2014 13: 09
            +1
            So Russia behaves, it’s easier nowhere, they spit in her face and she continues to supply gas, they kill citizens of her own state and Russia asks to postpone the referendum, Ukraine is torn apart by vultures from the west and Russia sits down at the negotiating table and tries to agree on something fascists.
          3. Ghost53
            Ghost53 16 May 2014 21: 20
            +2
            Eldar, where did you get the idea that Russia "should" be there? For some reason, Kazakhstan owes nothing, the US owes nothing, but Russia "must". And to be soft and kind, as I understand it - at the expense of my people, and trust should be won and something else that any Honduras wishes. But nobody owes Russia anything. Don't you think this is at least strange?
        3. just exp
          just exp 15 May 2014 07: 09
          +2
          Well, if for the sake of a rich new friend they forget the old one, then who are they?
      2. kocclissi
        kocclissi 14 May 2014 16: 33
        +14
        Quote: Baikal
        Polish pans historically sat on the necks of Ukrainians and spread their rot as they could.

        So the pans (gentry) and their people rotted! And all who could reach ....
      3. maximus235
        maximus235 14 May 2014 17: 31
        +4
        In my opinion, Ukrainians and logic are not compatible concepts.
        And there are many examples of this.
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        2. anfil
          anfil 14 May 2014 19: 34
          +14
          “Over the past few days, several families from Donetsk have asked me to find them an apartment in Lvov. These are professors, intellectuals. They do not see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine.”

          Most likely, this is the same professorship as a professor at Shevchenko University of Kiev, who claims that "Ukrainian is one of the oldest in the world and is the basis of Latin."
          “In the 16th century, only 900 of thousands of Ukrainians lived in the Crimea only in Crimea,” a people's deputy justifies the historical rights to these lands. - The South was also populated by Ukrainians. And indeed, from ancient times, several thousand years ago, the entire population was Ukrainian. Only the Greeks called that population Scythians. ”
          Among other things, Alexander Shevchenko predicts that soon Russia, “carried away by the struggle with the fraternal people,” will itself begin to fall, and “only scraps will remain of this country”.
          “But Poland is not able to exist independently, we do not have our own idea, our own Polish civilization way,” echoes its professor Anna Razhna from the Jagiellonian University. “Our politicians are slaves, American slaves.”

          You have no ideas, but continuous AMBITIONSthat are not brought to good. Take at least a plane crash near Smolensk.
          Many commentators suggested pressure from the president on the crew as a possible cause of the disaster. A case of such pressure has already taken place: on 12 on August 2008 during the Russian-Georgian armed conflict, Lech Kaczynski demanded to change the initial route and land the plane in Tbilisi, but the crew commander Grzegorz Petruchuk refused to carry out the presidential order without risking the lives of the leaders of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Ukraine aboard the plane and landed at the Ganja airport in Azerbaijan.

          And from this I’ll generally laughing
          ...Now to the laborer in the village, at the pan- said the Ukrainian. - There is absolutely no work in Ukraine, all the collective farms have collapsed ...
          ... And in Poland I can easily go on a work visa. 400 hryvnia costs. You go to the consulate with paper from the pan, for whom you work, and they calmly slap you a visa "...

          AND NEXT:
          ... you rejoice, but do not understand that you are ruled by billionaires. Billionaires ruled us too but we threw them off...
          belay

          AND THEY STILL FIGHT FOR THE HONORARY TITLE OF THE HOUSE OF HIGH CULTURE AND LIVING
      4. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 14 May 2014 17: 38
        +34
        Bottom line: Russia is to blame for everything.

        "Ukraine has joined the EU. Two Ukrainians are sitting there drinking. One
        asks: well sho? The second answers: Yes, this garbage is the EU - I'm out of work, wife
        in Italy washes floors, a son married a German, a daughter a prostitute in
        France !!! And blame m ***** and !!!! They told us: Do not enter
        EU, do not join the EU !!! They knew the paddlers, we will do it out of spite. "
        lol
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      6. Skipper2050
        Skipper2050 14 May 2014 18: 32
        +5
        Many Westerners and Ukrainians in general do not know this. They now need 100 years to understand - American influence.
      7. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 May 2014 19: 11
        +13
        "Precisely, this second consists in the fact that, according to my inner conviction, the most complete and irresistible, Russia will not, and never have had, such haters, envious people, slanderers and even outright enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them as liberated! And let them not object to me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! On the contrary, I love the Slavs very much, but I will not defend myself because I know that everything will come true exactly as I say, and not at all because of the low, ungrateful, as if, the character of the Slavs, they have a character in this sense, like everyone else, - namely, because such things in the world cannot happen otherwise. I will not spread, but I know that we by no means need to demand gratitude from the Slavs, we need to prepare for this in advance. After liberation, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely from that what they will beg for themselves from Europe, from England and Her mania, for example, the guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even though Russia will be included in the concert of the European powers, they will do it in defense of Russia. They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not outright out loud, they will declare to themselves and convince themselves that they do not owe Russia the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they barely escaped the lust for power of Russia at the conclusion of peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not intervene Europe, so Russia, taking them away from the Turks, would swallow them immediately, "meaning the expansion of the borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs to the greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe."
        (Dostoevsky http://www.fact.ru/www/arhiv25dr-2.htm)
        Smart was a man.
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 35
          +2
          Russia will never have, and never has had, haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated!
          Poles - open enemies, Bulgarians, Ukrainians have repeatedly betrayed Russia. History, you know ..
      8. Turkir
        Turkir 14 May 2014 22: 57
        +3
        In an international company, everyone told a joke, except for Hassan. They asked him to tell.
        Hassan - I am sitting in the desert. There is a caravan of camels. Passed the first - nasr .., passed the second - ..., passed the fortieth ..
        - Wait, wait, and where is the salt (logic) of the joke?
        - No salt, one manure.
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 15 May 2014 00: 11
          +1
          Quote: Turkir
          - Wait, wait, and where is the salt (logic) of the joke?
          - No salt, one manure.

          Или:
          <And where is the essence?
          > And piss in the sand.
      9. svvu
        svvu 15 May 2014 15: 57
        -2
        "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.
        1. SS68SS
          SS68SS 16 May 2014 11: 25
          +1
          Quote: svvu
          "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.



          I advise you to study the story.
        2. SS68SS
          SS68SS 16 May 2014 11: 25
          0
          Quote: svvu
          "The Ukrainians fled to Russia", which did not exist at that time, in its current understanding. What is now called Russia, we built JOINT.



          I advise you to study the story.
      10. Naum
        Naum 15 May 2014 23: 31
        0
        Aha: blame for everything "damn". Vons vse zherly, vse zruynuvali, vse zhoopyly. "Gat, damn, gat!" "Otozh, okay!" Gop-gop-gop. "Who doesn’t jump tei!"
      11. SS68SS
        SS68SS 16 May 2014 11: 22
        +1
        Quote: Baikal
        Where is the logic?



        What kind of logic are we talking about? They don’t know such words ...
        And they don't know the word "honor" either.

        From the latest distortions: "Russians are bad, Russian invaders, Russians out of Ukraine .... etc.," and then "Russians, give me money, plizzzz" .... Where is reason and dignity? No, and never was.
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    2. ksv500
      ksv500 14 May 2014 16: 15
      +9
      Most importantly, the truth is slowly reaching the European people and there are people in Europe who are bringing this truth smile
    3. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 14 May 2014 16: 24
      +29
      In an interesting time we live gentlemen! Surprisingly, so far Russia has been talked about critically about Europe, although it did not rock the boat, and as soon as it began to show character, many began to respect! Hence the conclusion, firmly stand on your opinion and the interests of Russia!
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 14 May 2014 16: 29
      +32
      Quote: “Over the course of several days, other Polish citizens told me about the lack of fortitude among the Poles. For example, Hanna Kowalska-Stus, a professor at the Jagiellonian University from Krakow.

      “For me, as a polka, it is a shame that if earlier Poland was implementing the policy of the USSR, today it is implementing the policy of the United States. This is again not our national policy.! "- the professor exclaims."
      ====================================================================== =============
      Has she ever been to Poland ?? belay
      Vladimir Ilyich also called Poland the political prostitute of Europe! Whoever offers more will lie under him request
      1. olf_1959
        olf_1959 14 May 2014 17: 04
        +16
        Vladimir Ilyich also called Poland the political prostitute of Europe! Whoever offers more will fall under request

        Ukraine is the same only with a rank much lower, approximately like a port.
        1. biznaw
          biznaw 14 May 2014 17: 36
          +5
          Shoulder ... in prostitution rank tables is more correct
    5. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 14 May 2014 16: 58
      +6
      With the Poles, everything is normal. It's just that few people write about this. And so, who dealt with the Poles a lot that can tell something unusual for our layman ...
    6. Wels75
      Wels75 14 May 2014 17: 04
      +6
      + article. easy and not forced to read, everything is intelligible and understandable. People of different nationalities are described, and they are united by one FRIENDLY ATTITUDE TO RUSSIA. IMHO
      Thanks to the author hi
      1. SS68SS
        SS68SS 16 May 2014 11: 29
        0
        Quote: Veles75
        and they are united by one FRIENDLY ATTITUDE TO RUSSIA



        Enmity as the rules of the top. And the peoples, for the most part, are friendly. Especially native peoples - Slavic ...
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    7. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 14 May 2014 17: 09
      +26
      For me, the article did not open anything new. In the 80s, I lived in Poland for 5 years and talked quite a lot with the Poles. What the author writes is 100% true. How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 14 May 2014 18: 26
        +6
        hi
        Quote: Saratoga833
        they were never Russian brothers.

        White bones are smoldering on the Don and Zamost Breezes rustling above the bones Remember ataman dogs Remember Polish pans Konarmeyskie our blades
      2. Tartary
        Tartary 14 May 2014 19: 43
        +3
        Quote: Saratoga833
        How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.

        However, a friend of mine told me that when the troops were withdrawn under Gorbachev, then at the stations of Czechoslovakia and Poland, simple crawlers and other hard workers said with regret in this spirit: “Who are you leaving us for?” How are we now without you?
      3. jktu66
        jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 38
        0
        What the author writes is 100% true. How arrogant, corrupt, and cowardly they were! Although they are Slavs, they were never Russian brothers.
        I join your opinion
    8. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 14 May 2014 17: 14
      +17
      By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...
      1. Ased
        Ased 14 May 2014 17: 33
        +12
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...

        There are many Poles and Ukrainians throughout Europe.
        It will be interesting when the EU gives visa exemptions to Ukraine and Pravoseki and others like them rush to Europe - to relax, yes do some work. :)))
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 41
          +2
          There are many Poles and Ukrainians throughout Europe.
          and the Baltic states too ... In Amsterdam, for example, it is not uncommon for a waitress to answer your English phrase in Russian.
    9. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 14 May 2014 17: 14
      0
      By the way, while Ukrainians are working in Poland, the Poles themselves are following the same pattern in Germany ...
    10. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 14 May 2014 17: 55
      +8
      This is a unit. It is not necessary to evaluate the Poles in a different way. They have Russophobia in their blood, with their mother's milk. There are "objective" ones, but again we are "imperial". In Geyrope, all empires were ordered to live long, together with their utopian ideas. We are alive. We, starting from Kievan Rus, had already 6 empires. There will be a 7th, and do not doubt. And as for the "common" people. Sound that they are being invested in UHI.
      1. valentber
        valentber 14 May 2014 21: 59
        +2
        The words "simple" people are correctly put in quotation marks. Our people are not as simple as you like to think. Quite the opposite, he is often smarter than his "rationalists".
      2. jktu66
        jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 43
        +1
        No need to evaluate the Poles differently.
        Among the Poles there are many friendly people, but the general background is frankly Russophobic
    11. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 14 May 2014 18: 42
      +3
      Quote: MainBeam
      Plus article. An unusual look at the Poles.
      Recently, I began to look differently at the Germans, Poles, and Ukrainians.
      Only about the Yankees, the opinion has not changed.

      And thank God! We must get rid of skepticism about the possibility of creating a Slavic Union. And for this it is necessary to take away from the Anglo-Saxons their main weapon - propaganda; open your eyes to the destructive background of their masses - culture. But all this will not cost much if the richest country in the world - Russia - surprises the world with the lowest standard of living in that G10, to which other countries we must oppose ourselves in the eyes of the Slavic World. Even more wild and unjustified is the presence of a flat scale of income, the presence of a company of billionaires and benefits to them, countless hordes of officials !!! Medvedev was mistaken by an order of magnitude: not 90% of officials - to reduce, XNUMX% - to leave, but vice versa! ... But what about you? Yankosov opinion is not changing. - perfectly! Congratulations - a sober vision of the realities of this world. If on the contrary, then - trouble.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 14 May 2014 18: 58
        +3
        What is the "Slavic union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians? Yes, they are completely frostbitten. Who said that we have the lowest standard of living? The press has read a lot? Go to the outskirts of Warsaw, that's their level. Our homeless person will be happy to think that they don't live there.
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 14 May 2014 20: 08
          +3
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          What is the "Slavic union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians? Yes, they are completely frostbitten. Who said that we have the lowest standard of living? The press has read a lot? Go to the outskirts of Warsaw, that's their level. Our homeless person will be happy to think that they don't live there.

          Romanians are not Slavs! I compared the standard of living with the countries of the "seven" - the "ideal" of the Eastern Europeans - the Slavs. In Russian, after all, it is written.
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 14 May 2014 21: 11
            +4
            And the population of Romania consists of 66% of the Slavs. What made you think that the country is at a high level? You ambulance will not pick you up there without insurance - lie down. And we and Eastern Europeans still have a high social package. they are half wages. Do not measure with one income.
            1. Vasek
              Vasek 15 May 2014 00: 21
              +1
              Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
              And the population of Romania consists of 66% of the Slavs.

              Where is the tsifirka from, share it?
              I remember a couple of Old Believers' villages in the Danube floodplains, very few Slovaks and Ruthenians along the border, and the rest (in decreasing order of numbers) were Gypsies, Romanians and Hungarians.
              So these others - more than 90% will be.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 14 May 2014 20: 10
          +4
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          "Slavic Union"? This is with the Poles and Romanians?

          Romanians have never been Slavs. According to the hypothesis, these are the descendants of the legionnaires who received their 25 yugers and produced offspring from the Dacians. Language: extremely tainted Latin. And self-name "Romania ".
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 14 May 2014 23: 02
            +1
            Plus a huge gypsy mix.
          2. yur
            yur 14 May 2014 23: 06
            0
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Romanians have never been Slavs. According to a hypothesis, these are the descendants of the legionnaires, having received
            And the legionnaires were all Latins right? In addition, Romanians are Orthodox. So in spirit they can be closer to us than the Poles - "Slavs".
            1. alexng
              alexng 15 May 2014 00: 43
              0
              Romanians are Catholics. These are Moldovans Orthodox. I’ve been to Romania, I haven’t seen a single Orthodox church there. In general, it was the Catholics who arranged all the contentions, and they were the initiators of all the warriors of the last two centuries, and blamed on Muslims and Orthodox Christians.
              1. yur
                yur 15 May 2014 18: 01
                0
                Quote: alexneg
                Romanians are Catholics. This is Moldovan Orthodox. I’ve been to Romania, I haven’t seen a single Orthodox church there
                Sorry, but you probably looked bad. According to the 2002 census, 86,7% of the country's population included themselves as Orthodox.
            2. jktu66
              jktu66 15 May 2014 00: 45
              +1
              In addition, Romanians are Orthodox. So in spirit they can be closer to us than the Poles - "Slavs".
              I don’t know about Romanians, but the Greeks are definitely closer
            3. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 15 May 2014 05: 17
              0
              Quote: yur
              And the legionnaires were just like that all the Latins were?

              In what language were the commands given to the personnel in the Soviet Army (except for the "obscene" of course)? Likewise in the ROMA legions.
              1. yur
                yur 15 May 2014 18: 11
                0
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                In what language were the commands given to the personnel in the Soviet Army (except for the "obscene" of course)? Likewise in the ROMA legions.
                What does the language in which commands are given in the army relate to the nationality of a soldier? request
            4. Victor Demchenko
              Victor Demchenko 15 May 2014 14: 43
              -3
              is it from which side are they Orthodox? collapsed from oak? Well, Catholics are basically, well, a little Old Believers and that’s all ...
              1. yur
                yur 15 May 2014 18: 06
                +1
                Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                is it from which side are they Orthodox? collapsed from oak?
                Look in any directory, even in the same wiki. And then you, it would be nice to apologize.
      2. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 15 May 2014 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: 1812 1945
        But all this will not cost much if the richest country in the world - Russia will surprise the world with the lowest standard of living

        Reasonable. Only in trading. To unite the Slavic world, you need to live better than anyone.
        So what is stopping us?
  2. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 14 May 2014 15: 57
    +34
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool
    1. Predator
      Predator 14 May 2014 16: 10
      +1
      Something doesn’t seem like, otherwise they wouldn’t behave like that .....
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 14 May 2014 16: 19
        +15
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted!

        The Poles are already full of European democracy.
        Although, if you read this article, then the Ukrainian people are very deep in Polish sewers.

        "Integration of Europe"
        The introduction of the euro in the 2002 year provided Germany with the best conditions for foreign trade and led to a sharp increase in its trade surplus, that is, profit. From the 2004 of the year, when the accession to the European Union of new countries, now countries of Eastern Europe, began, the process of destroying their economic and industrial potential began.

        New members were subject to strict requirements, rules, quotas, which led to a reduction in domestic production and an increase in imports. Many countries have lost entire industriesFor example, the sugar industry was destroyed in Latvia, Portugal, Bulgaria, Ireland, Slovenia.

        In 2009, the European Commission explicitly prohibited Latvia from resuming sugar production. Bulgaria, which was the largest producer of agricultural products in CMEA, now imports up to 80% of its vegetables and has stopped growing tomatoes. Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was an industrialized part of Yugoslavia and retained its industry during the war years, has now become a de-industrialized country with an unemployment rate of 44%
        1. mad
          mad 14 May 2014 16: 43
          +4
          Quote: MainBeam
          became a de-industrialized country with an unemployment rate of 44%

          But this is an excellent cannon fodder in the outbreak of war against Russia. You can literally kill two birds with one stone - and the extra mouths and the extra Russians.
          1. yur
            yur 14 May 2014 23: 17
            +2
            Quote: mad
            But this is an excellent cannon fodder in the outbreak of war against Russia. You can literally kill two birds with one stone - and extra mouths
            But this is unlikely. Whatever idiot they might be, they understand one thing there - all the "extra mouths", together with the bodies of the inspirers for the war with Russia, will burn up in atomic fire.
        2. Kunar
          Kunar 15 May 2014 21: 45
          0
          seek someone profitable
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 14 May 2014 23: 06
        +4
        Poles love to talk about themselves.
        If all the media in the world do not say a word about Poland for a week, then Poland will unleash a world war.
    2. takeshi
      takeshi 14 May 2014 17: 39
      +7
      It’s just that the Poles have long been under the Americans, they are fed up with everything and they already understand well that promise is one thing, and keeping promises is another. Although the bone sometimes falls to them, because barking at Russia regularly.
      And Ukrainians are fresh. Everything seems to them in bright prospects. They think that there will be love and wedding)))
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 14 May 2014 19: 59
      +3
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool

      The whole history of independence can be divided into two stages before and after Yushchenko.
      So, with the advent of Yushchenko, money poured into the country to form a civil society in the right direction.
      I think the economic problems of Ukraine are beneficial to sponsors, the worse the economic situation in the country - the more willing to become a democratic state.
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 May 2014 15: 58
    +34
    Syrian handsome:
    "Listen, I was in France, the outskirts of Marseilles is a 18 century!"
    good
  4. strannik595
    strannik595 14 May 2014 15: 59
    +7
    Half of Eastern Europe is Slavs, but instead of uniting within the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we fell under the Americans. "
    ..............born to lie cannot fly
    Putin said at a press conference following the Russia-EU summit. : "Now we will not talk about it. This is history. I think that it was again a conspiracy, the bargaining chip in which were small states and small nations. Unfortunately, these were the realities of that life. Just like the realities of the colonial past of European countries, as well as the realities of the use of slave labor in the United States. "
    you always lay under someone, your fate is such
  5. mig31
    mig31 14 May 2014 15: 59
    +3
    It's a pity the XNUMXst century kripaks ...
  6. fvandaku
    fvandaku 14 May 2014 16: 00
    +9
    And I'm not surprised that the talk is only about Russia.
    Half of Poland lives and works for Russia. Only PANS OF AUTHORITY DO NOT TRY THIS.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 14 May 2014 16: 22
      +12
      Quote: fvandaku
      And I'm not surprised that the talk is only about Russia.
      Half of Poland lives and works for Russia. Only PANS OF AUTHORITY DO NOT TRY THIS.

      You are right in many respects, but I will also note that talking "about Russia" is something like a national hobby of modern Poles - according to the stories of their acquaintances, the Poles were terribly happy in 1991 - they say "terrible Russia has finally died"! But no! Not only she turned out to be alive, but she gradually went up the hill, and Poland - as she was in ... an interesting position, and remained, so the envy of the Poles strangles - on the one hand, Russia inspires respect, on the other, its own exorbitant "gentry" pride makes regret the "lost empire". They can do nothing with Russia - neither fight, nor make friends, so all that remains is to gossip.
      The only good news is that the Poles, who are normal towards Russia, are gradually becoming larger.
  7. svp67
    svp67 14 May 2014 16: 01
    +4
    “All low-professional work - repair of roads, apartments, cleaners, car washers are Ukrainians,” the master of Polish journalism, the famous Putinophobe Witold Mihailovsky, who took me from the station, tells me. “As Uzbeks in Russia, we have Ukrainians. It's cheap and qualitatively. And the manpower market is inexhaustible. Here is such (smiles) friendship of Slavic peoples ".
    and the whole background of Ukrainian events, especially accession to the EU ...
  8. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 14 May 2014 16: 01
    +16
    Ukrainians quickly returned to their position, pan - serf. where the independence when to eat hunting ..
    1. aleks77
      aleks77 14 May 2014 16: 16
      +4
      Genetic memory, be under someone.
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 14 May 2014 16: 22
        +5
        Quote: aleks77
        Genetic memory, be under someone.

        This is the reality !!! Or are you part of Russia, if not, then wait for democracy, without options.
    2. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 14 May 2014 16: 20
      +10
      Zapadentsev all history was the Polish litter.
  9. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets 14 May 2014 16: 04
    +3
    You can argue a lot, but in every country there is a beautiful picture, and the outskirts or outback, just juggle with facts, give out wishful thinking ...
  10. Buran
    Buran 14 May 2014 16: 05
    +1
    I apologize for being off topic, is it true that Nalyvaichenko was shot ??? Who heard what?
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  12. Shakhtinec
    Shakhtinec 14 May 2014 16: 09
    +3
    Europeans see everything through the prism of profit, there is nothing human in them:

    “As a result, from the most knowledgeable Polish expert in“ pipe politics ”I heard a version of the reasons for the Crimean reunification with Russia. It turns out that the South Stream gas pipeline, which is now being laid by Putin across the Black Sea, is to blame.

    “But everything is fine on paper,” Vitold continues, smoking a pipe with the monogram of a Ukrainian trident. “In practice, no. Tectonic analysis showed that a rock stood in the way of South Stream. Up to a kilometer thick! It is unrealistic to break through. There is only one way out - to transfer South Stream to to the north of the sea, where the Ukrainian shelf is located. That is, Crimea. This is a quiet operation, behind which German and American concerns stand. Merkel is indignant, but she is a nesting doll. "
  13. Giant thought
    Giant thought 14 May 2014 16: 10
    +4
    Of course, each person has their own opinion about what is happening in Ukraine, what is in Russia, what is abroad, what is in Ukraine itself. So the intellectuals were going to scrape to Lviv, so the tablecloth is expensive, the Bandera people are waiting for them there. But note, no one wants war, only the Maydan people dream about it, because they don’t know anything anymore, and even fight, so rob and shoot unarmed. So they are the stone that draws Ukraine to the bottom.
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 14 May 2014 17: 05
      +3
      Quote: Thought Giant
      So the intellectuals gathered


      For a city of science (more than fifty universities in Lviv), the status of a hotbed of fascist mr @ zi does not look very logical.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 14 May 2014 20: 44
        +1
        Quote: Michael_59
        more than fifty universities in Lviv
        For 20 years, too, many universities have spawned, in which they stand in line for diplomas of lawyers, economists, etc. those who have money, and people do not know history, philosophy, political science well enough to understand such subtle matter themselves. The state maintains pride in our victory over the Nazis, but suppresses nationalist movements, and therefore the vast majority of citizens in the country, I think, are against fascism. There, in these years, the state was the backbone of Ukrainian nationalism and Bandera. Universities could not remain the international nursery of pure science. Everything, nmv, is logical.
  14. Balaganov
    Balaganov 14 May 2014 16: 11
    +1
    brisk article, non-standard
  15. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 14 May 2014 16: 11
    +4
    Ukraine first became independent, and then did not notice how its people turned into slaves of Europe.
  16. dik-fort
    dik-fort 14 May 2014 16: 12
    +12
    The West demonizes Putin and his role in Ukrainian events too much, they cannot understand that the Russian people are fed up with groveling in front of the West, that's enough, basta, with or without Putin, the people are tired of apologizing for their history, betraying Russians, being obedient "disciples" of all there Obama and Merkel.
    1. cucun
      cucun 15 May 2014 19: 15
      0
      Yes, Europe just needs a scarecrow to distract people from a smoothly sinking economy.
  17. kenvas
    kenvas 14 May 2014 16: 13
    +2
    Wow!!! Even in Poland there are adequate people ... Surprised and pleased ...
    1. Lunic
      Lunic 14 May 2014 16: 45
      +12
      Yeah, and the most appropriate of them is the Syrian Samuel Musa. )
  18. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 14 May 2014 16: 14
    +4
    the article slightly embarrassed me in my opinion about the Poles, this petty folk who can only do harm to Russia from the silence. Yes, and more than half of the population of Poland has anti-Russian rhetoric. Really even they have healthy people? This can not but rejoice. Imho. I'm not talking about all the ethnic Poles, among them there are also very worthy people
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 14 May 2014 17: 31
      +10
      The Poles have no more than half anti-Russian rhetoric, but 90 percent! There are few healthy people, and those with Russian roots. I say this firsthand, but as a result of a 5-year stay in Poland.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 14 May 2014 23: 08
        +1
        The gentry’s ambition and the same gentry’s thinking have not changed for 5 centuries.
        You are right.
  19. skullcap
    skullcap 14 May 2014 16: 15
    +8
    Pithecanthropus-Natsik brought the once prosperous country to such degradation and collapse.
    Although there was a great example in front of my eyes - Switzerland with four official languages.
    Instead of working, they began to flock together and make chaos.
    One word - banderlogi, not capable of anything creative, just jumping all over the herd, as the patients of the ward No. XXUMX.
  20. mvv
    mvv 14 May 2014 16: 15
    +3
    Ay thanks to the author! The article is a definite plus!
  21. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 14 May 2014 16: 16
    +5
    A good sketch without claims to global knowledge of the truth ...
    Normal kitchen conversation)))
  22. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 14 May 2014 16: 16
    +14
    and what is only xoxly? All union republics during the Soviet era lived better than the RSFSR, despite the fact that it was Russia that was the locomotive of industrialization, education, science and law, finally. And that, the "occupier" left and everyone returned to the roots, knee-elbow.
  23. Zeus
    Zeus 14 May 2014 16: 17
    +15
           
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  25. tnship2
    tnship2 14 May 2014 16: 18
    +2
    By the way, it’s very comfortable to work with the Poles (ordinary workaholic). Not really that they are politicized. The truth was they spoke in a hellish mixture of English Italian Russian and home-made languages.
  26. sso-xnumx
    sso-xnumx 14 May 2014 16: 18
    +9
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country

    Finally, it dawned on the Poles that the USA had fucked them in a particularly severe perverted form, turning their brains inside out. Now the brains are coming back, but "who got up first and the sneakers."
    And Musa is good! May God grant us more such allies who at least put in a good word for Russia, it will already be good. May God grant him health!
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 15 May 2014 00: 37
      +1
      Quote: sso-250659
      And Musa is good!

      Musa is well done!
      But I won’t forgive this for the Syrians: wassat
  27. thinker
    thinker 14 May 2014 16: 19
    +2
    Half of Eastern Europe is Slavs, but instead of uniting within the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we fell under the Americans. "

    Code, does it reach ALL? request
  28. sinukvl
    sinukvl 14 May 2014 16: 21
    +9
    A man - a mustache for fifty - also from the Lviv region, regularly goes to Poland to work.

    “I used to mow lawns in Warsaw, but now it’s hard to find such a good job. Now he is working as a farm clerk in the village, at Pan,” the Ukrainian said. “There’s no work at all in Ukraine, but all the collective farms were destroyed. In Pskovskaya Do you happen to come from there? From where? From Kaliningrad? This is where? And in Pskov it was good, there are a lot of churches, it is beautiful. "



    Maydaunam since 2013 everyone was trying to explain that Geyrope needed Euro-integration in order to gain access to minerals, and to move NATO eastward. And the maydauns themselves will work in Geyrop for soldering, they did not believe and now they do not believe. In truth, the smart learns from the mistakes of others, bad at home and only the maydown does not learn from anything, even the classics do not help.
  29. Buran
    Buran 14 May 2014 16: 21
    +12
    “It all depends on how the Slavs understand and feel their relationship to Russia. In fact, if they see in Russia only power - friendly, allied, auxiliary, but, so to speak, external, then nothing has been done and we are far from the goal. But this goal will be achieved only when they sincerely understand that they are one with Russia, when they feel that they are connected with it by that dependence, that organic community, which unite all the components of a single whole, truly living. Alas, how many disasters they will probably have to go through before they accept this point of view in its entirety and with all the consequences.
    The Slavs have the worst enemy, and even more internal than the Germans, Poles, Magyars and Turks. These are their so-called intelligentsia. This is what can finally ruin the Slavic cause, distorting its correct attitude towards Russia. These stupid, stupid, confused intelligentsia still could not understand for themselves that for the Slavic tribes there is no possibility of independent historical life outside their legal and organic dependence on Russia. To be revived by the Slavs, they should first of all plunge into Russia. The Slav masses, of course, instinctively understand this, but that’s the intelligentsia in order to corrupt the instinct. ”

    Excerpt from the letters of Fyodor Tyutchev to Yuri Samarin
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 14 May 2014 16: 30
      +3
      Quote: Buran
      The Slavs have the worst enemy, and even more internal than the Germans, Poles, Magyars and Turks.
      These are their so-called intellectuals.

      Yes, nothing changes over time. It’s sad.
      Thank you for the excerpt from the letters.
      1. Buran
        Buran 14 May 2014 16: 45
        0
        " Indeed, if they see in Russia only power - friendly, allied, auxiliary, but, so to speak, external, then nothing has been done and we are far from the goal."
        In my opinion this is more relevant.
  30. Grbear
    Grbear 14 May 2014 16: 24
    0
    An article at the tabloid-debiloid level. Time is a pity.
  31. Arkan
    Arkan 14 May 2014 16: 24
    +2
    "I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read us reports in English!” Continues Mrs. Kowalska-Stus. - This is when there are even fewer differences in Polish and Slovak than in Russian and Ukrainian! What are we doing with our Slavic world? Half of Eastern Europe are Slavs, but instead of uniting in the framework of the idea of ​​the Slavic world, we went under the Americans. "


    Thanks to the author for the informative article. I was glad that there are people who understand the Main Objective of our People.
  32. kit-kat
    kit-kat 14 May 2014 16: 31
    0
    I did not understand the phrase "... was the pan in glasses and a suit of mixed fabrics in the Russian outback ...". Clarify please.
    1. yur
      yur 14 May 2014 23: 37
      +2
      Quote: kit-kat
      I did not understand the phrase "... was the pan in glasses and a suit of mixed fabrics in the Russian outback ...". Clarify please.
      Let me explain. For the gifted. "Was there a gentleman who is dressed in a cheap suit and wears glasses in a Russian village." laughing
      1. raf
        raf 15 May 2014 21: 00
        +1
        laughing good explanation for kit-kat good hi
  33. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 14 May 2014 16: 34
    +2
    I kind of noticed it already. As soon as the conversation about the independence of Russians and Russia begins, they immediately talk about imperial ambitions. Well, then let GDP be the most imperial imperial (so that there isn’t enough Putin). It is to the words
    "Putin has an imperial idea and that is worthy of respect."

    And the words
    “Your Crimea has been squeezed by Putin, you are happy, but you don’t understand that billionaires rule you. Billionaires ruled us too, but we threw them off. Our Yanukovych screwed up to the fullest.”

    They say that the people did not understand H. Rene, at least poorly educated. We changed some of the oligarchs to the fascists.
  34. geo185
    geo185 14 May 2014 16: 40
    +6
    Here are those here, but it turns out I live in the 19th century, and everyone thought that at 21, the French comforted one in the 18th century laughing
  35. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 14 May 2014 16: 41
    +2
    Thanks to the author of the article for the information "from the street". It is very important for the formation of your own view in the world of lies of presstitutes.

    ... I felt uneasy when scientists from Slovakia (at the congress of Polish geopolitics) began to read reports to us in English!

    What to write about this?
    Already this pig, entering the chicken coop, doesn’t code ... and what if American chickens were there.
    1. 120267
      120267 15 May 2014 02: 46
      0
      What information from the street? This is the clear opinion of the "author" and his inventions. Nobody aspires to any Lvov. Think about it.
  36. Escander_84
    Escander_84 14 May 2014 16: 42
    +5
    It is believed that that Musa received education in the Union. Which allows him to draw sensible conclusions now. I have met such people, there is even one Tajik (already of a strongly retirement age). Even in the conditions of impoverished Tajikistan, he now lives far from retirement.
  37. Sterlya
    Sterlya 14 May 2014 16: 45
    +1
    Russia is a huge country. That’s why life will never work out
  38. SuperStarLay
    SuperStarLay 14 May 2014 16: 56
    +4
    "... Looking ahead, I will say that a couple of days later in Poland I met another resident of Lvov - realtor Yuri Kmit. He was already a" normal "Westerner who did not hide his anti-Russian sentiments.

    But he is not inclined to divide Ukraine into black and white: “In recent days, several Donetsk families have asked me to look for apartments in Lviv. This is a professorship, intellectuals. They don’t see themselves in the South-East, but want to live in Ukraine ".


    The daughter of an officer from Sevastopol was found! Now we know her name: Yury Kmit, a realtor from Lviv.
  39. Lyton
    Lyton 14 May 2014 16: 58
    +3
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Even the Poles regret that they fell under the Americans! And Ukrainians are delighted! Kapets country fool

    Ordinary Ukrainians fooled by propaganda simply do not understand this, as it is known in the mousetrap, it’s free cheese.
  40. vezunchik
    vezunchik 14 May 2014 16: 58
    +2
    zapadentsy as they were lackeys so they remained - they go to Poland to work in a pan ... just to be a slave - you don’t have to think about anything like cattle ...
  41. Oml
    Oml 14 May 2014 16: 59
    +1
    A correspondent from the Kaliningrad region? Something inspires thoughts to support the Westerners. The article contains not a single positive comment about Russia. And with the escape of the intelligentsia from the South-East, it's generally cool - right on the bump of the Banderaites. Yes, and my mother comes from the children from St. Petersburg, she cannot scold Russia, because her children "work" there, otherwise she would have expressed how bad it is in Russia and how good it is in Lvov. People, you read the article more closely, this is an obvious disgrace ...
  42. Bakunin
    Bakunin 14 May 2014 17: 04
    0
    The Polish authorities have a negative attitude towards Russia. Normal Poles are just the opposite. Read the media less.
  43. individual
    individual 14 May 2014 17: 13
    +3
    It's a shame that the distant Syrian is closer to Russia than the neighbor from Kiev.
    This paradox was created by US ideologists, and before Putin's Russia walked along their liberal path.
    Russia did not lose Ukraine - Russia lost a generation of Ukrainians under the age of 45 years, and this is the future of Kiev, which simply does not exist.
    1. Lunic
      Lunic 15 May 2014 00: 52
      +3
      rather until the age of 37. I am a little over 43 and I see a huge difference in communicating with 37-year-old compatriots. Moreover, this generation has already passed through the Ukrainian army and was raised there in a completely different way ...
      Our SA was many orders of magnitude higher than the USS (Ukrainian Zbroynі Seely).
  44. screw cutter
    screw cutter 14 May 2014 17: 13
    +5
    I was recently in Poland, the opinion of the Poles: Russians are treated with fear and respect, determined by their emphasis on times. Ukrainians are not respected, I would even say, they despise, they are treated like cattle, I really did not understand which Ukrainians they mean oriental or I think westerners, westerners, far east and don’t go to Poland to earn money, but how else can you relate to the Dzhamshutas (collective image, I didn’t want to say anything bad about normal Uzbeks and Tajiks). And by the way, as much vodka (with Poles) as in Poland I probably never drank before.
  45. fif21
    fif21 14 May 2014 17: 15
    +5
    The article is good, although a bit one-sided. The only thing that unites us is the economy. The USSR suffered an economic collapse and all the allies in Europe immediately turned away, turning their policy to 180 degrees. The result turned into a raw materials appendage of Europe with cheap labor. Now with the revival of the economic power of Russia, the former allies are beginning to understand that Russophobia played a cruel joke with them. But there is no turning back, friends are in trouble, and therefore Russia now needs them as cheap labor. And Dill awaits the same. that Russia took back, it is necessary to try very hard. Something like that hi
  46. Palych9999
    Palych9999 14 May 2014 17: 17
    +4
    Stop ALL transit through the "dill" (railway car). there are other ways.
    And not to pump gas, they say, "tyryat", they will cost with "Nord Stream" and the "South Stream" will accelerate
    Then the South-East SAM "will be embarrassed", and the people of Kiev - high on the Maidans march.
    And we will manage, we survived Hitler, we will manage without McDonald's.
    And for the defense industry - it's time to do everything ourselves.
  47. siberalt
    siberalt 14 May 2014 17: 22
    +3
    Russia will become Great and independent, like an empire, and the Slavic world will be reborn. Article plus!
  48. natakor1949
    natakor1949 14 May 2014 17: 23
    +10
    Let's remember their king August. He lived as an eternal beggar, drank, walked, ran from Karl all over Europe. And he strained Russia, demanding material and military help, and always believed that Russia was obliged to defend him. In all of Poland, at all times, they were only decent. " a tankman and a dog. "Smolensk has repeatedly let them know" you are wrong guys ", but they don't see anything beyond their nose.
  49. frejaodina
    frejaodina 14 May 2014 17: 31
    +7
    Minute of the classics:
    "It became difficult for me in Poland. Cold and deceitful people live there. I did not know their serpentine tongue, everyone hiss. What do they hiss? It was God who gave them such a serpentine tongue because they are deceitful" M. Gorky. Old Isergil.
  50. Igoranpapa
    Igoranpapa 14 May 2014 17: 36
    +3
    Musu was respected by him, in fact, our brother
    1. Atoll
      Atoll 14 May 2014 18: 30
      +3
      Musu knew before, man one hundred percent !!!