The largest scout ship on the planet recycle

According to the flot.com, with a link to broker government procurement, Rosatom Corporation announced the start of an open tender for the disposal of a large nuclear intelligence ship "Ural" project 1941. The winner of the tender will be announced 9 July 2014 of the year. He will have to complete all the planned utilization works before 30 November 2016. The initial value of the contract is 691 million rubles. Payments will be made in three stages: 200 million in 2014 year, 150 million in 2015 year and 341 million in 2016 year.

The large reconnaissance ship "Ural" carries the title of the largest reconnaissance ship on the planet, as well as the largest surface ship in the USSR and Russia equipped with a nuclear power plant. The ship, which made only one battle trip, was written off in 2001 year.

It is worth noting that earlier the Russian Defense Ministry announced a tender for the sale of ships and ships of the Northern and Baltic fleets, which are not intended for direct use.

Comments

[Warhead-xnumx]

Very sad! But unfortunately it cannot be restored.

[Hammer]

Quote: CU-3

Very sad! But unfortunately it cannot be restored.

All that is not done is for the better ... And then it’s like a suitcase without a handle - it’s a pity to drop it and it’s not convenient to carry it.
Better let the money that went into his stupid standing on more necessary things.

[Nahum]

It would be better if the equipment was removed and sold to the Japanese (Chinese) for scrap! But then there would be no contract for 691 million for recycling. Couldn't "master" them ...

[Andersen68]

Nonsense! Why sell something somewhere? A contract, and its price even as for disposal? They used to do stupid sales, supposedly it’s easier ...

[Andrey77]

To keep the old one, let's be honest, a ship or a submarine with a nuclear power plant is too expensive a pleasure. You're not right. We will also pay in order to utilize the reactor away from Russia. Although it’s easier to flood the New Earth.

[capitalist]

what is there to shoot? Elbrus computer, which is out of date in the 70s?

[amavr]

This money is needed to dismantle it; for some reason, the installers do not work for free. And metal will do for us - for remelting and again for business

[sonik-007]

Yes, and apparently not necessary, because It was built on technology 70s-80s and for military doctrine of the time.
Now, unfortunately, it is only a burden ... it is much more efficient to use satellites and reconnaissance aircraft that have stepped far forward (compared with that time).

This is a normal process when obsolete weapons leave the "scene" ...

[I do not care]

I would like to know the reason. In the states, the airplanes of the reb, the ships of the release 80x are still working.

[sscha]

Become on "Ural" was last year on this resource.

[mad]

The tragedy of the unique "Ural" http://topwar.ru/26231-tragediya-unikalnogo-urala.html

[capitalist]

This is not an EW ship.
he has no means of electronic warfare

[Andrey77]

Reason number one is not an electronic warfare ship. This is KIK - Measuring Complex Ship. At one time they served to glory, the same "Marshal Nedelin" (but he was non-nuclear). Now, with the development of technology, it is no longer necessary to track the launches of ballistic missiles from a ship.

[moryak tof]

You want to say that it was intended only for tracking the ball. rockets? You are mistaken, and very much!

[sonik-007]

http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/35126/ вот причина! Уж слишком он стар, а модернизация его встанет слишком дорого. Строим новые!

[Baikal]

Ummm ... you don’t even know how to react.
Was it really impossible to re-equip it for other tasks if it was not needed for its intended purpose?
Saw - do not build after all.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Baikal

Was it really impossible to re-equip it for other tasks if it was not needed for its intended purpose?

The game is not worth the candle.

[rasputin17]

You're right!!! Each ship is built for specific needs and purposes, and to remake an already completed project for something new and expensive, it’s easier to build a new one taking into account the requirements for it !!
And the ship, of course, is a pity ((each ship has its own soul and it is alive, my heart sometimes bleeds when I remember how the drunkard fight new "Dolphins" and "Sharks put on pins and needles stsuko for mattress candy wrappers !!!!!!!

[almost demobil]

Quote: rasputin17

Each ship is built for specific needs and purposes and remodel an already completed project for something new, expensive,

The statement does not coincide with the opinion of our strategists. The French Mistral is conceived as a helicopter carrier, and we are going to use it as a headquarters ship, a kind of floating KShM

[clidon]

And for this we buy for him the Ka-50? )

[leon-iv]

The labor costs of remaking are not worth it, the hull of modern ships is much cheaper than the electronics installed in them.

[rasputin17]

The case is just a wrapper for the filling on which he gets his class, purpose and rank!

[Orc-xnumx]

That means it's too expensive. Not worth the candle game!

[KOH]

And what is it out of date?

[Andrey77]

Yes. Not physically - morally. Will you be working on the IBM PC XT of the 80s now? Although you can solder the modem and theoretically go to the Internet. Personally, I would have made it a ship-museum, but I need to cut out the reactor - it doesn’t pay off.

[lord]

create a museum everything in scrap metal try damn sorry no words one mat

[Andrey77]

If not for the reactor. Do you know a lot of ship museums with nuclear power plants?

[MolGro]

it had to be written off for a long time !! unsuccessful design led to the inability to normal use!

[Per se.]

For a long time it was necessary to re-equip this nuclear-powered ship; with a length of 256 meters, it could easily turn out to be an aircraft carrier or helicopter carrier. Breaking, of course, is not building. There are a lot of examples of alteration of civilian ships and warships, especially in wartime, with limited time and great need (we now have a virtually similar situation). You wouldn't have to wait a hundred years until we create new projects and are going to build, all the help. The same can be done with the remaining two "Eagles", which, most likely, will also want to dispose of in this way. For example, the Italian aircraft carrier "Aquila" from the transatlantic liner "Roma".

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Per se.

For example, the Italian aircraft carrier "Aquila" from the transatlantic liner "Roma".

What will we launch from the Urals? Birket or Zero?

[Per se.]

Quote: Vladimirets

What will we launch from the Urals? Birket or Zero?

What is being launched from Vikramaditya and Kuznetsov, or what is going to be launched from purchased Mistrals. Of course, at first it was necessary to bring the ships to the handle, lose millions and billions, after tearfully talk about saving a penny, sneer over the "scrap metal" ... We and VTOL aircraft "do not need" they "burn the decks" and carry the ballast of lifting engines to complete the construction of the former "Varyag" (as Chernomyrdin was told), the Soviet Union and nine ministries were needed ... , only about the lost Yak-141 to remember that he was ahead of his time and competitors. EPRON raised the sunken ships from the Civilian, some of them were put into operation, as the British captured submarine L-55 and the Tsar's destroyer. In general, those who wish are looking for opportunities, and those who are not willing are looking for reasons.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Per se.

What is being launched from Vikramaditya and Kuznetsov, or what is going to be launched from purchased Mistrals. Of course, at first it was necessary to bring the ships to the handle, lose millions and billions, after tearfully talk about saving a penny, sneer over the "scrap metal" ...

I know that all the polymers have already passed. They have already written competently that

Quote: Ptah

Only not by an aircraft carrier, but by a "floating dance floor" ... Nuuu, at best - a DEBARCADER for mooring Vladivostok.
Have you heard about the ship's premises and their purpose?
Their purposes can be completely different, they require individual equipment. And this is again "almost a new building" ....

[e_krendel]

Quote: Baikal

Was it really impossible to re-equip it for other tasks if it was not needed for its intended purpose?

Indeed, what is his failure? And why can’t you re-equip for something else if, as a scout, he is outdated (not needed or others)?

[MolGro]

the problem is that it turned over ((the centering mass was insufficient, as a result, he could swim either in calm or in weak excitement!
There were a lot of articles about this! And yes, we need a ship of such a plan, but this one is easier to dispose of!

[Al_lexx]

Quote: e_krendel

Quote: Baikal

Was it really impossible to re-equip it for other tasks if it was not needed for its intended purpose?

Indeed, what is his failure? And why can’t you re-equip for something else if, as a scout, he is outdated (not needed or others)?

It seems that, in addition to everything else, it’s a reconnaissance ship of this caliber that is now trivially unnecessary, precisely because the means of communication and miniaturization of electronic components have gone very far. It seems that a ship of much smaller displacement can perform all the same tasks. And if so, then instead of one such monster, you can build a little smaller, for the same money and at the same cost of operation. In addition, it seems to me obvious that not only effectiveness, but also the banal combat stability of a distributed scout flotilla is much higher than that of this giant.

[Neighbor]

Is the smoke in his photo also atomic? And really it’s really impossible to retool ...

[rashid]

In addition to the nuclear power plant, the ship was supplied with energy by two KVG-2 boilers operating on fuel oil - in the bow and stern engine rooms. The backup power plant was intended for use in basing places and anchorage sites that do not have energy supply facilities.

[Andrey77]

And you are in the subject. Served on it?

[rashid]

no. wikipedia

[Silkway0026]

We won’t stay without a scout. The sooner we cut the old, the sooner we will build a new

[Starover_Z]

And do not build first NEW, and then saw the OLD?

[Andrey77]

You do not have a Kalashnikov assault rifle, but there is an old 18th century squeak. And there the nuclear power plant is not known in what condition. The risk of inflicting damage to yourself is higher than from the enemy.

[rasputin17]

And tell me at whose expense to keep this useless old? After all, it requires expenses for its maintenance and not small ones that do not bring any benefit either to the country's economy or to its Navy! Only one on-duty daily shift on it is about 30-40 people plus electricity consumption at the pier with idle power plants, not to mention others expenses! Amount of pennies runs not small per day but per month or year ??

[Andrey77]

You put the question correctly. Dispose of "junk" with uranium rods on board as soon as possible. But during the Cold War, we riveted so many of them ...

[valentina-makanalina]

Junk must be discarded. And what in return?

[Ptah]

The lead communications vessel (large reconnaissance ship of the 1st rank) "Yuri Ivanov" of project 18280.
Within six months, the ship "Yuri Ivanov" will be completed afloat and at the end of 2014 after the necessary tests will be transferred to the customer and will begin service in the Northern Fleet.
In total, it is planned to build at least 4 of such ships, after the Northern Fleet they will receive the Pacific, Baltic and Black Sea fleets of Russia. The ship will be the first in a series and will surpass its predecessors in a number of tactical and technical indicators.
The total displacement of the future vessel will be 4 thousand tons, and its length - 95 meters. The crew of "Ivan Khurs" will be 120 people. With economical fuel consumption, the cruising range will reach almost 15 thousand km. Such autonomy, "Ivan Khurs" is obliged to the experimental diesel engine 11Д42, developed at the "Kolomensky Zavod" commissioned by the Iceberg Central Design Bureau.

bmpd.livejournal.com/626326.html

[commander]

"Ural" seems to have not been used for over 20 years. And they seemed to manage and questions were not asked, how would it be without him?

[222222]

2013 - The reconnaissance ship "Yuri Ivanov" was launched on November 4, 2013 at this enterprise the laying ceremony of the first serial communications vessel is planned. By order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, he will be named "Ivan Khurs" http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/41440/
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/41167/
... "Ural." It also stood most of the time on mooring barrels in Strelok Bay. And in the summer of 1990, a fire broke out on a nuclear reconnaissance ship that disabled the aft engine room. Electric cables from the aft boiler burned out. The ship was supplied with energy only by the bow engine, but soon it also burned out. After that all the energy was supplied to the ship only by emergency diesel generators. There was no money for repairs. The ship's commander, Captain 1st Rank Keshkov, in despair even wrote an official letter to the then President of Russia Boris Yeltsin. As expected, the commander received neither money for repairs nor an answer.

As a result of all the misadventures in 1992, the nuclear reactors of the Ural were drowned out, and he himself was put to a remote pier, turning into an unprecedented size of an officer's hostel. For this, the Pacific people sarcastically nicknamed SSV-33 "Ural" a cabin carrier. "" Http://www.dachavodka.com/node/1997

[atk44849]

even standing on barrels in Strelok Bay., listened to the Pacific coast of Sashka almost to Panama.

[NOMADE]

Greetings. Quite right .. (I myself was, at this time in the Bay of the 'Shooter' .. (And I often saw him in the "Golden Horn" .. He, only for disassembly .., unfortunately. But .., how funny it sounds .., many in the 90s "climbed" on it, handing over non-ferrous materials .. (It's a shame everything, including other "paraships" in the "Strelok" bay

[gandalf]

He served his ... Worthy conduct veteran.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: gandalf

He served his ...

He especially did not serve, unfortunate fates happen to ships, unfortunately.

[KOH]

And so it is still a pity ...

[e_krendel]

Remove add-ons and make a flight deck, let it become an aircraft carrier. The experience of Vikramaditya is
And the dimensions are almost the same ...

[Ptah]

Quote: e_krendel

Remove add-ons and make the flight deck, let it become an aircraft carrier

Only not by an aircraft carrier, but by a "floating dance floor" ... Nuuu, at best - a DEBARCADER for mooring Vladivostok.
Have you heard about the ship's premises and their purpose?
Their purposes can be completely different, they require individual equipment. And this is again "almost a new building" ....

[Giant thought]

Everything will ever end, and with the ships, for some it’s fate to plow the seas for many years, and for some it’s not, this is just the case.

[cerbuk6155]

It's a pity, but I think they will build something else to replace it, and no worse.

[silverwolf88]

It is a pity that such cases occur ....

[silverwolf88]

The ship had great potential ... this potential was never fully realized.
For the ship it was possible ... and it was necessary to develop a modernization program ...
In general, the reasons for making a disposal decision are not obvious from the message.

[sso-xnumx]

The large reconnaissance ship “Ural” (BRZK SSV-33 “Ural”) is the world's largest reconnaissance ship, the only ship of the 1941 project “Titan” (according to NATO classification - Kapusta), the largest surface ship in the USSR and Russia with nuclear power installation (NPP).
Launched May 1983
Put into operation on January 7, 1989
Withdrew from the fleet in 2001
As always! Obviously they handed over for the next holiday, a bunch of imperfections and experimental equipment. Lack of coastal infrastructure (trouble and grief of the Soviet Navy). And the collapse of the country in addition.
It's a pity such a wonderful ship, so much work - mental and physical. Professionals in the crew in the field of electronic intelligence and electronic warfare, power engineering and seafarers ... He would still serve and serve, just change the filling. I hope the Navy Museum has a place for the flag of this ship and a couple of exhibits from it. He honestly carried out his service. I carried it as best I could. And it's not his fault that he leaves early. It just became unnecessary for politicians. Forgive us "Ural" .....

[222222]

The Ural made its first trip to the area of ​​the Kwajalein atoll, a training ground of the then American missile defense "Safeguard". Five points..

[capitalist]

Lolshto? He never swam to him. The first and only campaign of this ship was from the factory to the Pacific Fleet.

this trough due to constant damage could not make a single trip

[sergeybulkin]

It's high time to get rid of such trash, imagine how much his servants cost ?! For this money, every year the Titanic can be built.

[Andrey77]

Suggest a way to destroy the reactor at no cost. And preferably, without contamination of the terrain and the globe.

[alekc73]

It’s a pity. It can’t be restored. It was a good idea, and he defended all the service at the pier. The ship was a bad ship.

[crambol]

Quote: Starover_Z

... build NEW first, and then saw OLD?

Before throwing away old portka, it is advisable to buy new ones. And then they may not understand it.

[Arh]

The ship in its filling does not correspond to the present !!!

[chunga-changa]

This, by the way, is one of the shortcomings of ships with nuclear power plants - a narrow specialization, and as a result - neither cut quickly, nor remake anything useful. Plus, relatively large amounts for construction and operation, and not comparable for cutting. Well, the increased danger of the object as a whole.
All the same, the military must be controlled, if you give them how much money they ask, they will gladly squander them for such things. As a result, one military campaign and probably the most expensive and dangerous hostel for officers in the world.

[GRAY]

It looks sad.

[Gagarin]

Sorry, I’ll ask as a complete ignoramus in this industry:
And if you remove the nuclear part from it, tow it away and accidentally drown (artificial reef) - it seems to me that it will be cheaper than 691 million, and if you sell to China for scrap (they will carry it yourself) it will also be profitable.
Tell me, am I wrong?

[clidon]

Reactor to the bottom? Have you gone through this And then have problems with environmentalists? Such things are not done "accidentally". No one will sell a nuclear reactor to the Chinese, and they will not take it themselves - they are interested in iron and profit, not radioactive problems.

[rashid]

In June 2012, the general director of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Rosatomflot of the state corporation Rosatom Vyacheslav Ruksha announced his intentions to use the equipment and power plant of the Urals for the repair of existing nuclear icebreakers.

[Andrey77]

Removing the nuclear part will be more expensive than flooding the Novaya Zemlya. Replied?

[jovanni]

Oh! How many Shtirlits would have prepared for these grandmothers!

[Yellow white]

Collect all the trash that was going to be disposed of, ships, tanks, etc ... and on the shallows near the Crimea "fiddle" a new island, with a lighthouse, a pier, electronic warfare, a helipad and other things ...
yes a dream, but beautiful and there is nothing unrealizable!

[76rtbr]

Quote: Neighbor

Is the smoke in his photo also atomic?

in the wardroom smoke break !!!

[Neighbor]

And what kind of smoke is there, synthetics or something.

[sso-xnumx]

auxiliary diesel generator

[ZSP]

I'm sorry It is clear that it is expensive to contain, but for 691 ml. You can organize such a museum. Monument of the era of the USSR, again the first and last !!! Just like Gorbachev ... And it would have stood loomed, people would have come to visit him, again it would be something for the children to see, well, for adults, there would be something to think about ...

[clidon]

In this museum you have to swell a lot of money, despite the fact that not many people will visit it.

[Andrey77]

Already considered. Only the disposal of the reactor will fly a penny.

[clidon]

But in the museum you do not need to dispose of it? )

[Andrey77]

YOU HAVE EXTRA money - go ahead. The country will say thank you. Is there a million in dollars? It seems to me that we are talking about the same thing.

[Andrey77]

In St. Petersburg, the submarine-museum S-219 is afloat. They thought the nuclear-powered ship K-3 "Leninsky Komsomol" would also be made into the museum and put next to the S-219 ... The cost of converting into a museum is a third of the Hermitage to be sold.

[Sokol peruna]

Andrey77
In St. Petersburg, the S-219 PL Museum is afloat

In St. Petersburg, as a museum, you have C-189.

They thought the nuclear-powered ship K-3 "Leninsky Komsomol" would also be made into the museum and put next to the S-219 ... The cost of converting into a museum is a third of the Hermitage to be sold.

There, the issue price is 46 million rubles - a third of the cost of the raid tugway pr.90600.

[Andrey77]

I'm exaggerating. Do you have this money?

[Sokol peruna]

I do not have 46 million rubles. I am not George Averov. But in the case of the announcement of a fundraiser for the restoration of K-3, I’m ready to do my bit, and you?

[Andrey77]

And I am ready. Let not K3, but any boat from the withdrawn. Announce the amount.

[twviewer]

"Ural", like many others, also burned in the early 90s, naturally "by accident", and twice.

[B.T.V.]

And after the fires, the electronics went out of order due to the loss of circuit boards with precious metals, even the FSB dealt with it, and some cunning officers made small capital for themselves in the troubled 90s, one of them was my housemate.

[Andrey77]

Electronics - a penny, there were copper cable tracks. You can’t even imagine how much copper was on such a ship.

[qwert]

In principle, there was a project to re-equip it into an anti-space defense reconnaissance and strike ship. There, in connection with the transition to a new element base, areas for anti-missile silos were freed up. Well, and the type of nuclear installation allowed him to be on alert for a long time and in the hour of the IKS to remove intercontinental ballistic missiles directly over the territory of the United States. over-the-horizon radars were to be mounted on it. I don’t remember what institution the project was developed by. Then it became interesting to me how to protect him from an adversary. Although in conjunction with a pair of nuclear-powered cruisers of the "Peter the Great" type, it is possible and it would have turned out to be an inept connection.
Interestingly, we will still build ships larger than coastal corvettes?

[rashid]

Interesting Facts

The chief designer of the Urals, M. Arkharov, for this unique project was awarded the title Hero of Socialist Labor. In addition, as a civilian, he received the military rank of “Rear Admiral”.
The ship has a constructional (permanent) roll - 2 degrees to the port side, which was due to a more developed superstructure specifically on the port side. During the transition of the ship to the place of deployment and its location in Strelok Bay before the fire in 1990, this roll was compensated by ship systems - the working gauges of pitching and side rolling, as well as the hull deflection showed a normal state.
The ship’s reconnaissance equipment included a “camera” with a lens diameter of about 1.5 meters.
"Ural" - one of the rare ships, spared from the dominance of rats. The work of the reconnaissance complex of the ship was detrimental to rodents.
In 1988, the Ural was planned to be visited by the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, later the first and last President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev. For him, they specially painted the ship from the side of the pier, cut off part of the superstructure and put in a gangway, so that it was convenient to climb the third tier. But all this turned out to be in vain: the secretary general never climbed the ship.
While parking in Kamrani, the patrol of the PDS (anti-sabotage service) in the Urals used a weapon (a special grenade) against an unknown target in the water near the side of the ship. It turned out to be a big turtle. A sailor who showed vigilance (by the way, who had served only six months by that time) received an extraordinary vacation.
In 1990, during the fire of the main arsenal of artillery ammunition of the Pacific Fleet, the ship was 1,5-2 km from the ignition site. Despite the huge number of shells and missiles scattered in different directions, thanks to the skillful leadership of Captain 1st Rank commander Keshkov and the selfless actions of the entire crew, not a single shell, missile or fragment fell into the ship. The crew almost under heavy fire, at night, with the support of just one tugboat, brought him to a safe place.
In 1991, during the loading of ammunition, a box of 76-mm shells disappeared. The ship's commander Keshkov turned to the crew with a request to return the shells subject to incognito. During the day, all the shells were returned, and Keshkov personally thanked the crew for “speakerphone” for each shell brought to his cabin.
In the fall of 1991, during a powerful storm, the ship tore off the anchor barrel and carried it into the open sea. Tugboats could not go to sea; the standard launch time for ship's vehicles was from an hour to an hour and a half. The immobilized and helpless ship drifted a hundred meters from the rocky shore of about. Putyatin. The next day, the ship’s crew began to receive rations (for example, smoked sausage and condensed milk for breakfast were added), since formally the ship began to be outside the raid, in the open sea.
There was a suggestion within the ship’s team that the fate of the Urals was influenced by the connection between the name of the project (“Titan”) and its developer (Design Bureau “Iceberg”). Some explained the fate of the ship with the project number - 1941.
The first commander of the Urals, captain 1st rank Ilya Keshkov, turned to Russian President Boris Yeltsin for help. I did not receive a response.
The ship "Ural" is mentioned in the novel of Max Brooks "World War Z".

[Neighbor]

Thank you. Meaningful and informative.

[capitalist]

According to flot.com, with reference to the government procurement website, Rosatom Corporation announced the launch of an open tender for the disposal of the 1941 Ural large nuclear-powered reconnaissance ship. Sobyanin or something allowed for recycling ?? It seems to me that someone decided according to the old Moscow tradition to cut down the dough twice for some work ??? such as laying paving slabs on papers several times in the same place)

tender for utilization of the Urals has already been ANNOUNCED IN 2008! Moreover, it was carried out, won by the Star, and grandmas were let down on it, and the paper ship was already disposed of in the 10th year ... and what, AGAIN?

[Ptah]

Quote: Capitalist

already disposed of in 10 year .. so what, AGAIN?

Yes, noooo. It was disposed of, then (ON OTHER PAPERS) it was returned to its original state, but now they decided to recycle it again.
Already specifically and for a long time ...

[jagdpanzer]

Already specifically and for a long time

Not a fact, not a fact ..)

[rashid]

During the Cold War, in the era of confrontation between two world centers - the USSR and the USA, the warring parties sought opportunities to gain access to a variety of strategic information about the "likely enemy", while hiding their own secrets.

One of these secrets was a missile test site in the South Pacific, which the United States used to launch its ballistic missiles.

The Soviet Union could not sufficiently track the tests of American missiles on the final trajectory: the USSR did not have military bases in the region. The KIK ships of the USSR Ministry of Defense and civilian vessels carrying special control and measuring systems (for example, “Academician Sergey Korolev”, “Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin” or “Cosmonaut Vladimir Komarov”) did not have active radars and were intended to operate on transponders of domestic space objects.

Thus, the need arose for a special warship, which would be able to collect the entire amount of available information about any subcosmic object on any part of its trajectory in any region of the globe.

[Manul49]

Quote: Neighbor

Is the smoke in his photo also atomic? And really it’s really impossible to retool ...

No . There were also two KVG-2 boilers operating on fuel oil.

[Andrey77]

You can retool. You can make a museum, a floating casino - anything. But this will be a loss-making project once, and you have that kind of money two.

[clidon]

Is it that to tow it to Sochi. Such money was there recently. )

[Ptah]

Quote: clidon

Tow Sochi to tow it.

Maybe right away to New York?

Quote: clidon

Such money was there recently.

Break the shell ... And in a couple of years it will be possible to say dreamily ....
There TAAAKIIE money RECENTLY WERE ...

[Andrey77]

Sports facilities and transportation support are at least worth the investment. And the museum of the old KIK ... I doubt it.

[Neighbor]

No, they’ve already sawed in Sochi, But the boat is a pity ...

[kelevra]

It’s a pity, of course! This is not a ship, but a masterpiece! But, if it is outdated and there is no particular need to use it, much less use it, then why spend money on maintaining it! Of course, it would be possible to convert it, but, a nuclear installation, this is serious, an accident could become the second Chernobyl!

[Andrey77]

Yeah. There stands the very first surface reactor KN-3, with an icebreaker, with children's sores.

[Leshka]

sorry but nothing can be done

[bilibom]

Quote: MolGro

the problem is that it turned over ((the centering mass was insufficient, as a result, he could swim either in calm or in weak excitement!
There were a lot of articles about this! And yes, we need a ship of such a plan, but this one is easier to dispose of!

I disagree with you. During the transition from BF to TF, he showed himself perfectly, having passed not only "calm and weak waves" but also storms. Also "Ural", the official name of SSV-33, is an icebreaker type ship (which is encoded in the name - Universal Reconnaissance Atomic Icebreaker type ").

Its "problem" is that its introduction into the fleet did not fall into the period of Gorbachev's restructuring. And also spoiled the event on "dismissal from service of students of higher educational institutions." During the period of entry into the Navy, students on the ship made up about 80% of the conscripts, and in some warheads and Services, all 100%.

[Cristall]

it is strange that not one ship of measuring complexes and the USSR space fleet was ever turned into a museum ...
Ours have fused "Gagarin", and here the Urals were going to cut them like them ...
then we will remember - yes, the USSR built the great ships ... and only Aurora survived ..

[Andrey77]

This is true. "Gagarin" is still alright - an old ship, but "Marshal Nedelin" will never forgive!