Bowl of patience. Russian sky can close for flights of Ukrainian liners

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The Ukrainian side believed that only it can afford to close its sky for “unwanted” foreign flights. We are talking about the prohibition of Kiev on flights in the airspace of Ukraine for the Russian Federation liners heading to the airport of Simferopol. The Russian side decided that it was time to include a response option.

Bowl of patience. Russian sky can close for flights of Ukrainian liners


The official representative of Rosaviation in an interview ITAR-TASS said that if Kiev does not abandon the practice of closing the airspace of Ukraine for Russian air carriers, then Russia will be forced to make a symmetrical answer already in relation to Ukrainian aviation companies.

The cup of patience overflowed after the incident with the plane, in which Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin was going to return from Chisinau to Moscow. The Ukrainian side said that the air corridor to the board next to Moscow would not provide, since it allegedly grossly violated the rules for using the airspace of Ukraine. It turned out that by this "gross violation" Kiev understands the recent landing of the aircraft at one of the airfields of the Crimea (Simferopol). Dmitry Rogozin flew to Moscow by plane. It was then that the vice-premier in his microblog (and even after the ban on the flight from the Romanian side) wrote:
Next time I'll fly on TU-160.


To date, Russian aircraft, traveling from Moscow or St. Petersburg to the airport of Simferopol, are forced to make a considerable air "hook" bypassing Ukraine.
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  1. +50
    12 May 2014 19: 07
    That's right - a partial or full symmetrical answer in this case will put them in their place.
    1. +50
      12 May 2014 19: 15
      DNI turned to the Russian Federation with a request to accept it as part of Russia!
      Somewhere in 3 minutes begins.

      We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!
      1. +53
        12 May 2014 19: 24
        We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!
        if purely outwardly, I can hardly imagine these three guys next to the GDP in the Kremlin) Especially against the background of the intelligent Chaly. Well, as a matter of fact, be that as it may, the GDP has added one more puzzle. I, as a man in the street, are only "For", and the president needs to think deeply, wide and far
        1. +8
          12 May 2014 19: 43
          Help the children, the main thing is Our help
        2. Sinara70
          +5
          12 May 2014 21: 06
          The most important thing::::
          BEAUTIFUL, LIGHT and PURE GUYS ...
          Soviet at its core .....
          Just their dads and mothers believed and lived GOOD. and LIGHT !!!
          And therefore they are LIGHT !!!
          Perhaps .. not very experienced in political dispositions and preferences ,,,, and nuances .....
          But with CONSCIENCE and HONOR, THEM ALL IS GOOD AND CORRECT !!!
          it’s a shame for them for POWER, FOR PEOPLE, FOR HIS COUNTRY- and this Country has a name- Union of Soviet Socialist Republics !!!!!!!!!
          The Red Banner - and the Sickle and the Hammer - throughout the EARTH !!!!
        3. Sinara70
          0
          12 May 2014 21: 06
          The most important thing::::
          BEAUTIFUL, LIGHT and PURE GUYS ...
          Soviet at its core .....
          Just their dads and mothers believed and lived GOOD. and LIGHT !!!
          And therefore they are LIGHT !!!
          Perhaps .. not very experienced in political dispositions and preferences ,,,, and nuances .....
          But with CONSCIENCE and HONOR, THEM ALL IS GOOD AND CORRECT !!!
          it’s a shame for them for POWER, FOR PEOPLE, FOR HIS COUNTRY- and this Country has a name- Union of Soviet Socialist Republics !!!!!!!!!
          The Red Banner - and the Sickle and the Hammer - throughout the EARTH !!!!
        4. SHI69
          +2
          12 May 2014 23: 06
          A rogue handsome! but you have to believe in the best!
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      3. +17
        12 May 2014 19: 36
        We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!


        For GDP, this is a very difficult step. There was no question of joining the Russian Federation at the referendum! And there are no official results of the counting of votes yet. Did our brothers hurry from the Donbass? belay
        1. vedross
          +5
          12 May 2014 20: 26
          Yes, this is somehow strange, but it seems that this step is no longer the legal aspect, but the political one, because no one has elected the leaders of the DPR and no one has given them the authority to turn to Russia for reunification either. In my opinion, the referendum showed a general attitude - not with Ukraine, but since the complete independence of the DPR is impossible, such an appeal to Russia is based on the fact that the DPR is not with Ukraine. I am sure that Putin will decide to support the will of the people of the DPR on independence from Ukraine and until the legal settlement of all the roughnesses in reunification, will support the DPR peacekeeping contingent.
          1. 0
            12 May 2014 21: 36
            Gubarev's interview to "Rossiiskaya Gazeta" link: http: //www.rg.ru/2014/05/12/gubarev.html
            The “People’s Governor” of Donbass Pavel Gubarev gave an interview to “Rossiyskaya Gazeta”, in which he talked about the lack of ideology among Donbass militias.
            ... It turned out that two-thirds of the activists are already on the content of oligarch Akhmetov. A very small group of people remained faithful to the idea, but at the same time they took money. Everyone took the money!
            Are you talking about the situation before your arrest?,
            Pavel Gubarev: Before arrest. I will repeat what I have already said. In these conditions, they all sold out. Those who did not sell out, who were marginalized, who were discredited, who were intimidated. There were those who said that it was only necessary to force Kiev to leave a little more money here in the localities. That is, we do not need a reboot of power, federalization. It is necessary to return the law of Kolesnichenko ("Kivalov-Kolesnichenko Law") on the Russian language. - Auth.). And he was immediately returned. All the activities of the Akhmetovites were limited to draining the people's anger, and all this worked out well in Dnepropetrovsk. Oligarch Kolomoisky did this because pro-Ukrainian sentiments there are slightly stronger than in Donbass, and no one has voiced any leader who would proclaim the idea of ​​not at least independence, but at most the reunification of historical roots with Russia. Now there are Kiev security forces and others, it is impossible there. He took control of the situation ...
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        3. +7
          12 May 2014 20: 37
          Sly residents of the Donetsk region!
          They again want to solve their problems with someone else's hands! According to Vesti 24, a story flashed in connection with the events in Slavyansk, where a woman, against the background of the death (incomprehensible) of a young man, shouted: "He died for the Russians!", Thereby emphasizing that Russia's intervention is simply necessary. Again the citizens of Hochland are trying to ride on her hump. He, the guy, did not die for the Russians. He died for what his grandfathers defended, against which the population of not only Donetsk, but also Kharkov, Lugansk, Odessa and hundreds of large and small settlements of Ukraine should have rebelled!
          They divorced fascism in themselves, so let them harass it at the root. But no, then let them not jerk. And then to eat a fish and ... to conceive. Nefig take them. The sense of Donbas is all the same to us a little. Only problems will be added. We would have to raise the Crimea, or to master - how anyone likes!
        4. N.M. Ladoga
          0
          13 May 2014 10: 13
          And for us it’s even more complicated. Now joining is impossible - neither economically, nor politically. We must help Donetsk and Lugansk with all our might, but talking about joining is premature.
        5. N.M. Ladoga
          0
          13 May 2014 10: 13
          And for us it’s even more complicated. Now joining is impossible - neither economically, nor politically. We must help Donetsk and Lugansk with all our might, but talking about joining is premature.
      4. +9
        12 May 2014 19: 42
        This is the right decision, only one more referendum is formally required, in which there will be such a point. People need help, even if there are not enough funds in the budget, they will understand correctly. There may be options with the timing of adaptation. But now they can turn about the Russian peacekeeping contingent, to be able to carry out further activities.
      5. 0
        12 May 2014 19: 47
        I have one question, what kind of people are on the video splash screen? In the video itself they are not.
      6. +5
        12 May 2014 20: 02
        Somehow all this is very hasty, however; the main thing is not fussing.
        1. +3
          12 May 2014 20: 08
          Quote: pint45
          Somehow all this is very hasty, however; the main thing is not fussing.

          Late! Everything, it started ...
          “It's time to stop babysitting, introduce tomorrow a prepaid system with Ukraine,” Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said at a meeting with Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller.
          “In June, Ukraine will be supplied with as much gas as it pays. If Ukraine does not pay the advance bill, then Gazprom will stop supplying it with 3 in 10: 00 in June, ”Miller said in response


          And still for consideration! Will the junta survive until the morning? bully

          KIEV, 12 of May - RIA Novosti. The Ukrainian Security Service claims that Alexander Turchinov, who was appointed president by the parliament and Arseniy Yatsenyuk, appointed by the Rada as prime minister, is preparing assassination attempts, said Valery Geletey, head of the state security department of Ukraine, in an interview published today on the Ukrainian newspaper Segodnya.

          According to him, the SBU informed the state security department about the impending assassination attempts on Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and First Deputy Prime Minister Vitaly Yaremu, and the protection of these persons was strengthened. “How much is needed for security, so much and expose. We do not have a temporary (guard - ed.). Around the clock, state and free, ”said Geletey.

          He also stated that “information about the real threat” also came in relation to seven presidential candidates - Olga Bogomolets, Mikhail Dobkin, Oleg Lyashko, Petro Poroshenko, Sergey Tigipko, Yulia Tymoshenko and Oleg Tyagnibok. Geletey noted that his department "reacted" to these threats.
          1. +2
            12 May 2014 21: 25
            Quote: Sid.74
            about impending assassinations of Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and First Deputy Prime Minister Vitaly Yaremu

            Purely propagandistic news. What is the point of killing Turchinov and Yatsenyuk, if he has only twelve days to lead. performing.
          2. +1
            12 May 2014 22: 17
            Also read in the afternoon on the ukromovsky site. The portal was surprised that the surname Putin did not sound nirazu laughing Then Igor Ivanovich will probably come to populate the BRDM.
      7. +1
        12 May 2014 20: 16
        He said everything right !!!!! I honestly liked it !!!! We are waiting for an answer from the Kremlin)))
      8. +2
        12 May 2014 20: 23
        I don’t know what VV will say Putin, and here is the answer of our Foreign Ministry:

        In its commentary on referenda in eastern Ukraine, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that in order to implement the results of the referenda, a dialogue is needed between Kiev, Lugansk and Donetsk. “The preliminary results of the counting of ballots convincingly show the real disposition of citizens of Donetsk and Lugansk regions to have the right to independently make decisions on issues relating to issues vital to them. We believe that the implementation of the results of referenda should take place as part of a dialogue between Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk, ”the statement said. “We expect from the Kiev authorities real actions, and not general declarations of intent, immediate effective meetings with representatives of the regions of the South and East of Ukraine that would lead to stabilization of the situation in the country. Unfortunately, the authorities in Kiev continue to demonstrate criminal unpreparedness for a dialogue with their people, ”the Russian Foreign Ministry said.


        http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2469048

        The debut is over, the figures just got into their proper places ...
        I think there will not be many replicas from the Prident to the end of the batch ...
        1. 0
          12 May 2014 20: 38
          Quote: gfs84
          and here is the answer of our Foreign Ministry:

          This answer sounded even BEFORE the DNI appeals to the Russian Federation.
      9. +10
        12 May 2014 20: 36
        Quote: Kuygorozhik
        We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!

        What do you mean by the expression "GDP does not disappoint"?
        He already did not disappoint, magically speaking!
        Who will not accept the DNI as part of the Russian Federation. No need to wishful thinking. Be realistic. Forcing Russia to fight with Bendera is the pink dream of the US State Department. And now to accept the DPR as a part of the Russian Federation, the direct road to using the Republic of Armenia against paid bastards, and creating a hot spot on its southern borders. The Russian Federation is a separate country, and it must first of all think about its well-being and the well-being of its citizens! We can help the DPR with free, or very cheap gas and fuel and lubricants, they have not yet begun sowing! .. Money and weapons, specialists in the military and economic fields. Purchase of products of their enterprises. But once again I repeat, to take them into the Russian Federation right now will be very short-sighted! Later, maybe. Yes
      10. +7
        12 May 2014 20: 38
        I think both GDP and 99% of Russians are only FOR. But it is unlikely to turn out as quickly and beautifully as with the Crimea. I am sure that we can withstand sanctions and financial losses, despite the cries of the liberals. But no matter how everything turned into even more blood. I think the GDP has thought of some kind of multi-pathway - do not wait tomorrow for the decree on the accession of the Donetsk Republic. The question is - who owns the property there - what to do with these ghouls - also to drag to Russia - so, sorry, we have enough of our own .... But I'm sure Putin will not fail - there is no turning back.
      11. +5
        12 May 2014 20: 42
        Quote: Kuygorozhik
        DNI turned to the Russian Federation with a request to accept it as part of Russia!

        Yesterday a referendum, and today already ??! This is a run ahead of the engine. So things are not done serious. Where are any authorities? Is the constitution even on the knee? Who is the leader of the DPR? I believe that many will disagree with me, but Russia cannot and should not accept such entities of dubious legitimacy! Let us recall the Crimea - a mosquito will not smack the nose! Yes, the situation in the Donbass is much more complicated, but so straightforward - this is a mistake, a miscalculation of those who are now stepping into the DPR! Now I unconditionally believed that our advisers are not there! GDP would not allow such a kuynya. They themselves have discredited themselves in the eyes of everyone, such awkward actions could be expected from the Kiev junta - everyone is already used to it, but here ... damn it, at first I could not believe my eyes! What question was put to the referendum ??? About joining? Yes no hera! And now what should Putin do with all this?
      12. 0
        12 May 2014 20: 57
        The referendum was about sovereignty! To join Russia, another referendum is needed!
        1. 0
          13 May 2014 21: 35
          Quote: huginn
          The referendum was about sovereignty! To join Russia, another referendum is needed!

          This is called-through .ope to the stars! At first they asked in the Russian Federation, they caught on and held a referendum laughing
      13. +1
        12 May 2014 21: 33
        But he donned a butterfly in vain, as it doesn’t suit him very much, it seems to me not that case :)
      14. 0
        13 May 2014 05: 09
        Quote: Kuygorozhik
        We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!

        Hi, well, they drove about gullies that we dug ourselves as with this, I mean the guarantor of Ukraine of a neutral country, Russia, Such a number doesn’t work anymore, I need to look for a new solution, The visible easy solution is not always correct, It seems to me that only these new entities enter the TS, As far as I see this is probably the best way, There is still a problem, but how then with the TS, Suddenly there are also separate areas where they will want to enter somewhere here how to open the PANDORA BOX !! No wonder they gathered in Minsk before May Day, they probably discussed everything in detail, you notice how we behave neatly, perhaps this is the most convenient option, and there is one snag these areas are highly dependent on other adjacent neighboring regions of Ukraine, the heavy heavy industry there consumes electric energy from its close neighbors here so far we cannot only they can help themselves solve these problems, And here the movement of the nearest regions to these new state formations will probably begin, about we help, there is no doubt, In Kiev they are jerking for nothing, We have already greatly helped the new state entities that the rest of the guarantors were driven away from Ukraine, And this is also the time won and it works against Kiev,
    2. +20
      12 May 2014 19: 23
      Quote: 51064
      That's right - a partial or full symmetrical answer in this case will put them in their place.


      Fig yourself Symmetry! It’s one thing to fly around Lithuania. Try Russia fly around! :)))
      1. +20
        12 May 2014 19: 47
        When Russia pushes the entire Black Sea coast, Ukrainians will fly to Turkey for the same money as in Hawaii laughing
        1. 120352
          +5
          12 May 2014 20: 20
          ZU-23
          They tapericha to Cuba will become closer ...
          1. +2
            12 May 2014 20: 24
            Quote: 120352
            They tapericha to Cuba will become closer ...

            Now they are from Lviv even to Kiev will not reach Kiev! laughing

            The company explained the suspension of flights from Lviv to Kiev with low demand, which even special fares for this direction could not stimulate

            The UTair-Ukraine company on Monday suspended its flights to Lviv indefinitely. Thus, from the beginning of the year, the UTair-Ukraine network of domestic routes was reduced from five cities to one: the air carrier retained only the Kiev (Zhulyany) - Donetsk flight, the company said.
            1. yur
              yur
              +3
              12 May 2014 21: 36
              Quote: Sid.74
              the airline retained only the flight Kiev (Zhuliany) - Donetsk, the company said.
              But now it is "international"! laughing
            2. +1
              13 May 2014 01: 48
              Let them fly to the middle of the Dnieper!
        2. Alex 241
          +7
          12 May 2014 20: 31
          Quote: ZU-23
          When Russia pushes the entire Black Sea coast, Ukrainians will fly to Turkey for the same money as in Hawaii

          All Ukrainian airline campaigns will immediately go to scrap. They have a price tag for tickets, and so mother is expensive! Flight Aerosvit Moscow-Odessa, a little cheaper than Moscow-Nice Aerofot.
        3. +2
          12 May 2014 21: 22
          There is not enough fuel for ukrop eroplanes to fly! The right move! Like them, so are we! Only our move is more effective! laughing
        4. +1
          13 May 2014 01: 03
          Quote: ZU-23
          When Russia pushes the entire Black Sea coast, Ukrainians will fly to Turkey for the same money as in Hawaii

          The bad thing is that it won't wring it out. Kolomoisky did a good job in the Dnieper, and now his protégé is in Odessa. The "defense" belt is built by a sickly one (violence, ifnosombiating, money, everything goes into action)
          Yes, and the Ukrainians are happy not to Turkey ... I don’t even know whether they can get to Odessa, there is not much money ...
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      3. mad
        +4
        12 May 2014 19: 54
        And at the same time, the stupid ones sawed their own Tu-160 for scrap wassat
        1. +2
          12 May 2014 20: 48
          Quote: mad
          And at the same time, the stupid ones sawed their own Tu-160 for scrap

          They sawed our Tupolevs, and the newest ones. American technique ... "guillotine".
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      5. Stalker
        +8
        12 May 2014 20: 00
        Fig yourself Symmetry! It’s one thing to fly around Lithuania. Try to fly around Russia! :)))

        Kerosene is not enough !!! They will start begging !!!! laughing
        1. +1
          12 May 2014 20: 45
          If only through the Southern Hemisphere! lol
          1. Sinara70
            0
            12 May 2014 21: 23
            So let AND SUMMER !!!!!
            THROUGH THE POLE !!!!
          2. Sinara70
            0
            12 May 2014 21: 23
            So let AND SUMMER !!!!!
            THROUGH THE POLE !!!!
      6. 120352
        +2
        12 May 2014 20: 18
        So, for what they fought, they ran into something. Let them fly wherever they want and how they want, but not over our territory.
    3. +6
      12 May 2014 19: 47
      In general, I am surprised why they did not immediately answer in the same way. Do not want our planes to fly to you? Then there will be no ukrovskys in the Russian sky.
    4. 120352
      +5
      12 May 2014 19: 55
      Kiev freaks in a fit of agony are trying to play tricks on mos-yam, and meanwhile at 19:20 on TV they showed a rally at which Donetsk announced its sovereignty and asked our leadership to include it in Russia. Congratulations to all from the heart!
    5. +6
      12 May 2014 20: 02
      TU-160 is cool !!!! Rogozin well done !!!!!!
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      2. Stalker
        +6
        12 May 2014 20: 08
        TU-160 is cool !!!! Rogozin well done !!!!!!

        A weak ISS and satellites prohibit flying over Ukraine ???? fool laughing
      3. 0
        12 May 2014 20: 49
        TU-160 is cool !!!! Rogozin well done !!!!!!


        Probably already freighting, especially after this:

        Dmitry Rogozin said that his personal belongings disappeared from an airplane detained by the Moldovan authorities


        Understand here http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2469055
    6. +6
      12 May 2014 20: 06
      If we really do not recognize the junta, then it is time to make an unmanned closed zone for the entire southeast of Ukraine .... in Kiev they are nobody for us and there is no way to call them ...- my opinion ...
      1. +1
        12 May 2014 20: 51
        If we really do not recognize the junta, then it is time to make an unmanned closed zone for the entire southeast of Ukraine ....
        Why is this still? It’s better to enter without a flight zone over the rest of Ukraine, controlled by the State Department (well, not dill they rule there actually)
        wassat
    7. +3
      12 May 2014 20: 24
      "A cup of patience. The Russian sky can be closed for flights of Ukrainian liners"

      IT IS HIGH TIME!!!
      And then, Bender strongly believe in their exclusivity, impunity and permissiveness!
    8. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      12 May 2014 20: 43
      Quote: 51064
      That's right - a partial or full symmetrical answer in this case will put them in their place.


      That's right, +! And this had to be done a long time ago. Once our crews were forbidden to leave the aircraft for recreation.
      I don't really agree with the article in terms of .. "a hook around" wassat just the author of the article is not up to date .. how much do we pay for the flight over the aircraft on the VT of Ukraine (for navigation and control).
      The same must be done with the railway transport .. the Moscow-Simferopol train is "lucky" to Crimea .. 23 passengers .... go nuts and Yakunin still sends these trains from all over the country (those that go through Ukraine ) request
      What .. money is not where ???? wassat
      1. +6
        12 May 2014 20: 57
        VAF
        That's right, +! And this had to be done a long time ago. Once our crews were forbidden to leave the aircraft for recreation.

        Sergey! Greetings! hi
        Today, RIA Novosti Pushkova was quoted on this occasion. Well said!
        “If Ukraine believes that support from the United States and the West as a whole allows it to act as it wants, in violation of all recognized norms, then it needs to be convinced of this. I think Russia has such opportunities, and it seems to me that we should not show excessive restraint ... If Ukraine believes that it is at war with Russia, then if it will confirm it by some actions, then I think that we must respond accordingly, so that the Ukrainian authorities understand that they cannot afford everything, ”Pushkov said.
        12 May 2014, 11: 53 (Moscow time) | Politics | RIA News
        Whoever the Americans would say these words to the Americans!
        But in general, it's nice how "Putin and Company" works harmoniously and do not fawn.
    9. +4
      12 May 2014 20: 44
      Quote: 51064
      That's right - a partial or full symmetrical answer in this case will put them in their place.


      Well, I don’t know about the symmetrical answer. I think, not one of me, the instructors initially dragged on asymmetric answer to the enemy. It is in this case that the enemy will be GUARANTEED "put in place". And the "dumber" the enemy is, the more asymmetrical the response should be. Otherwise it will not understand and "climb" again.
    10. +1
      13 May 2014 11: 00
      State Department: The United States did not agree with the results of the hockey match. The United States announced its categorical disagreement with the so-called "victory" of the Russian national team in the match at the World Hockey Championship. This was stated by the speaker of the US State Department J. Psaki: “This match had nothing to do with real hockey. In the 21st century, you cannot play hockey as if the 20th century is in the yard. The imperial ambitions of the Russian national team are clearly demonstrated in the very methods of playing the game, as it was in the worst years of the USSR: the dirty puck merry-go-round arranged by the Russian team against the US national team and blocking the democratic washers in their own gates is an attempt at a revised status quo and a threat to European security. " At the same time, J. Psaki, in response to a journalist's question, clarified that she does not know what a carousel is, but it is written in her text and she is sure that this is something terrible and incompatible with universal human values: “We have no doubts what is behind all this Russia. This is evidenced by the recent participation of Putin in the match of the so-called "Night Hockey League", where he personally threw 6 goals into the opponent's goal. Now his whole bloody plan becomes obvious, all this was planned by Russia from the very beginning. " She also said that President Obama expressed deep concern about the outcome of the game and stated that "Russia is now not only on the wrong side of history, but also on the wrong side of geography, physics and physical education." She also said that economic sanctions would be immediately imposed against the Russian national team players: “We, together with our European partners around the world, have decided to impose immediate extensive economic sanctions against those directly involved in the incident. Russia will pay dearly for this. a difficult decision: all discount cards of the Russian national team players in the European and American networks of sports stores Reebok, Nike, Adidas will be frozen until the next seasonal sales. The performers of the imperial plans must understand that they will not stand aside. " Separately, Ms. Psaki noted the defiantly shaved beard of hockey player Ovechkin in protest against Eurovision: “This is a protest against common European values, against the choice of Europe! , the beard should be returned immediately

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  2. +13
    12 May 2014 19: 08
    Well this is how much time aircraft will fly around Russia ??? :)))
    1. +9
      12 May 2014 19: 23
      more than 20 hours will take a flight from Kiev to Bankong
      1. +6
        12 May 2014 19: 26
        Quote: Shadow1
        more than 20 hours will take a flight from Kiev to Bankong

        And where will they refuel? :)))
        1. +10
          12 May 2014 19: 40
          In the indian ocean
          1. +5
            12 May 2014 19: 46
            EQUIPPING THEIR FILLING LINES AND EQUIPPING KS-135 FILLERS FROM THE USA laughing
            1. Andreitch
              +3
              12 May 2014 20: 43
              For what money? request
              1. +3
                12 May 2014 21: 15
                Quote: Andreich
                For what money? request

                For chocolates Poroshenko! laughing
          2. +6
            12 May 2014 19: 49
            Quote: alauda1038
            In the indian ocean

            Interesting news for Ukrainian air carriers. Tourists will write with delight.
            1. +5
              12 May 2014 20: 02
              ... in tanks, instead of refueling
      2. 120352
        +2
        12 May 2014 20: 32
        Between Peter and Anchorage 12 o'clock, i.e. Anchorage is opposite us. You have to fly like this: Peter - Frankfurt: 3 hours; Frankfurt-Anchorage: 9 hours. Total 12 + expectation from three to twelve. In total, from home to home, on average, about 16-20 hours is obtained. It’s a little expensive, but I’m not crying, but “firm” and you get tired, of course. And here from Kiev to Turkey the same amount can be obtained ... Kiev will burn out if others do not pay for it (they are used to it), but who needs it?
      3. +1
        12 May 2014 20: 45
        refueling is required however
    2. +1
      12 May 2014 19: 59
      Quote: ASed
      Well this is how much time aircraft will fly around Russia ??? :)))

      Until the grudge runs out wassat
    3. 120352
      +2
      12 May 2014 20: 25
      In time, there’s nothing else, but in terms of fuel - this is a song! They don’t have oil, but how much will they sell it to, we’ll think about it. And we will deliver through Antarctica. At their expense.
      1. +2
        12 May 2014 21: 01
        They don’t have oil, but how much will they sell it to, we’ll think about it. And we will deliver through Antarctica. At their expense.
        Not. Such difficulties are useless. It is enough to deliver in pharmaceutical packaging (as alcohol for injection) - in glass bottles of 50 and 100 ml. The share of containers in value can very much be raised in this way. Imagine this supply: for example, 100 thousand barrels of oil, packaged in 50 ml.
        At the same time there will be something to do glassware factories.
        wassat
    4. +1
      12 May 2014 20: 46
      and who will refuel them? they now only fly in the geyropu ... in our direction, to hell with two!
  3. +12
    12 May 2014 19: 09
    and still planes remained in Ukraine? and kerosene?
    1. wow
      +20
      12 May 2014 19: 30
      In fact, dung flies fly here more, and even then a little, because there is no manure (cattle waste) either. There is no one to "produce" it (manure);
      1. +5
        12 May 2014 19: 46
        In fact, dung flies fly here more, and even then a little, because there is no manure (cattle waste) either. There is no one to "produce" it (manure);


        It would be funny if it were not so sad. Sincerely sorry.
      2. +11
        12 May 2014 19: 50
        And how is An-225 Mriya doing in the conditions of ****** what is happening in Ukraine now? I do not want Mriya to get to Bandera ...
  4. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 12
    They always talk about a "possible symmetric response" ... Of course, I do not know the commercial value of this decision, but why not close the sky from the Ukrainian fleet? True, it's a shame ... From everywhere they threaten with sanctions, so also these are there ...
    1. +6
      12 May 2014 19: 42
      Quote: Roman1970
      Everywhere they are threatened with sanctions, so these same there ...

  5. +37
    12 May 2014 19: 13
    Tired. There are no words. The whole country is crazy, and we still have to make a fuss with them.
    1. +11
      12 May 2014 19: 50
      Tired. There are no words. The whole country is crazy, and we still have to make a fuss with them.


      One must be above that. Lavrov, Churkin and others are simply handsome. They all wiped their nose. That is what the Soviet school means. Already the whole west has left Gov ... oh, and our diplomats are calm! And how do they choose the right words! I bow to their diplomacy and professionalism. Study, study and study again...
    2. 120352
      +3
      12 May 2014 20: 46
      Yes, nope. The country has not gone crazy. The country (village) is asleep as usual. This is the power "elite" dumb brains and young people with bad brains there too. And there is no need to clatter. It is necessary to pin the Natsiks, Banderaites, whip the youth like sidorov goats, some 25 years old and thieves-oligarchs to the nail. And for the country to wake up, it is necessary that it suddenly becomes hungry and cold. Then consciousness will wake up and everything will fall into place.
      Yes, and somehow Ukraine needs to be renamed. The name turned out to be harmful.
  6. +8
    12 May 2014 19: 14
    “The Ukrainian side has come to believe that only it can afford to close its skies for“ unwanted ”foreign flights. We are talking about the prohibition of Kiev on flights in the airspace of Ukraine for Russian airliners going to the Simferopol airport. The Russian side decided that it was time to include a retaliatory option. " Maybe with the bandits and talk in the same way? "Let the dogs say:
    "Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
    What barks at the Elephant! "
  7. +2
    12 May 2014 19: 17
    Fly around Russia for ... soaring in general. smile
    1. +2
      12 May 2014 20: 36
      Not even that would have to be done, but something like this:
      PROHIBITION FOR ENTRANCE AND SPAN OF THE TERRITORY OF RUSSIA FOR ALL UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS, AND SAME MEMBERS OF THEIR FAMILIES!
      That way for a start. They will still have a bay - then, in general, TOTAL BAN!
      1. +2
        12 May 2014 21: 08
        And for the European Union, too, to impose sanctions on airplanes: to prohibit the crossing of the air border of the Russian Federation with UES airplanes doing this through the airspace of Dill. That is, if you want to fly to Russia, fly bypassing Ukraine.
  8. +29
    12 May 2014 19: 18
    How long can one remain silent and not respond to the sanctions of these brainless Americans, mongrel-Europeans and kookies of this fascist junta? Isn't it time to answer! To ban Kiev junta planes from flying through our sky, and to give these mongrels and brainless ones such a fight that their hiccups with diarrhea break out. I hiccuped, so I put it in my pants! Continuous lies are pouring from the filthy mouths of the American Baran Obama and his moses, such as: Kerry, McCain, and other sub-pickup mongrels from the European Union, and even Yaytsenyukh and others, so they all lie! Poroshenko in Novaya Kakhovka said that no one participated in the referendum, the ballots were noted by the members of the commissions themselves, as well as 70% of the population for a united Ukraine. Lies and hypocrisy! Burn these dogs in hell!
    1. vedross
      +5
      12 May 2014 20: 28
      Their lies know no bounds. I think the absolute Falsehood itself is surprised by such a lie of the Ukrainian junta.
  9. +11
    12 May 2014 19: 19
    Enough to endure the tricks of the junta. It is urgent to impose sanctions on them. Let the people see what their government is leading to. And feel it in your own skin. hi
  10. +6
    12 May 2014 19: 20
    Maybe in fact it’s enough to threaten and persuade with a finger?
  11. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 23
    And it’s dangerous to have flying dill over our heads. Well, too much filth made us dill.
  12. +8
    12 May 2014 19: 23
    the answer should be absolutely ASYMMETRIC. close naxer all flights of all Ukrainian aircraft to Russia and through the airspace of Russia.

    and after these chisels come to their senses, sooooo long to consider the issue of renewal. For - no!
    1. +2
      12 May 2014 19: 52
      And remind them the phrase “So you knew what you were doing.” It is high time to start applying the old sergeant's rule in working with recruits - it doesn't get through the head, it gets through the ass.
  13. +13
    12 May 2014 19: 24
    Guys, don’t make a fuss! Soon someone will slowly come down from the mountain and have the whole herd ... Sala Ukradine !!!
    1. Korablev
      -1
      12 May 2014 20: 52
      While this "someone" "slowly descends from the mountain", the "herd" will have time to give a shit as much as they can and hit the road to another place.
  14. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 27
    An adequate response to the Ukrainian antics with prohibitions of passage ... as well as possible antics of other countries are treated by closing the airspace. The tablet is effective and fast.
  15. Lyuk2297
    +4
    12 May 2014 19: 29
    It’s time to take some measures. I got this practice - I won’t eat it so I bite.
  16. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 29
    The main task is to prohibit Nata’s flights over Russia. That would be great !!!
  17. pravda2014s
    +2
    12 May 2014 19: 30
    There is no Ukraine, and never will be!
  18. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 30
    The message reads as follows: "The Donetsk People's Republic appealed to the Russian Federation with a request to consider the decision of the People's Council to join the DPR to Russia."

    who is next?
    1. +4
      12 May 2014 20: 25
      Let's start with Odessa ...
  19. buser
    +7
    12 May 2014 19: 30
    I don’t know about symmetrical answers, but analyzing the behavior of the Kiev authorities you can write a lot of dissertations !!! In psychiatry ... The field is not plowed right !!!
    1. +2
      12 May 2014 19: 53
      Quote: buzer
      I don’t know about symmetrical answers, but analyzing the behavior of the Kiev authorities you can write a lot of dissertations !!! In psychiatry ... The field is not plowed right !!!

      And try new pills for loonies on Tymoshenko and her other comrades. They will not mind am
  20. +2
    12 May 2014 19: 31
    Yes ... I remember in Boryspil sat on a transplant to Germany, Chernihiv beer at 100 rubles for 0.5
    drank, drank ... well, very tasty, and even for the money ....

    Even in Germany, it wasn’t such a tasty beer. drinks

    Will anyone still be in Kiev, Odessa?
  21. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 32
    You observe Ukrainian politicians and wonder how they are painted black and some kind of Zimbabwe is obtained with monkeys on a branch. I really can’t believe that this theater of absurdity is happening near us, at the same time in a fraternal country. As if on a pitchfork, the people of the East could not endure this power.
  22. Gloria45
    +2
    12 May 2014 19: 33
    My Motherland Crimea, my family (mother and children) live in Simferopol. I dream of returning home, especially now it is Russia. Every day I see more and more obstacles, I called the Russian Consulate, in Marseilles, I can’t get through to Paris, I didn’t get a clear answer. My documents, including me, have Ukrainian status. From here they wanted to go by car to the Crimea, now it is impossible. Who knows any news or a site where I can get such information, please give.
    Thank you in advance, Julia.
    1. +4
      12 May 2014 19: 37
      Quote: gloria45
      Who knows any news or a site where I can get such information



      Such questions only at the Russian consulate, make your way.

      Let your family try to make inquiries on the spot.
      1. +6
        12 May 2014 19: 44
        Be patient, Julia. Everything will settle down a bit, the Russian laws will work in full force in the Crimea and return home. The transition period is also a difficult thing. smile
    2. Korablev
      +1
      12 May 2014 20: 55
      But what’s wrong? Can't you fly from France to Moscow?
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      2. Gloria45
        0
        13 May 2014 00: 33
        it is possible .... I think .... it is possible
      3. Gloria45
        0
        13 May 2014 00: 54
        vse propalo! vse, chto ya hochu napisat 'kudatoio ischezet

        pojalyjsta moj addresses [email protected]
  23. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 35
    it’s time to ban walking junta is useful to walk your brains aired
    1. JoylyRoger
      +3
      12 May 2014 19: 43
      there is nothing to ventilate
  24. +6
    12 May 2014 19: 36
    I propose to support the independence and close above them the airspace for themselves laughing let go infantry laughing
  25. Palych9999
    +5
    12 May 2014 19: 37
    It is necessary to impose sanctions
    And for the passage of trains, and for the passage of Ukrainian aircraft.
    And for the so-called. The European Union to introduce "targeted" retaliatory sanctions - a ban on entry into Russia for ALL members of the European Parliament and the OSCE ... and all ... red-haired men from 18 to 60 years old.
    They will know!
    1. +14
      12 May 2014 19: 45
      Quote: Palych9999
      and all ... red men from 18 to 60 years

      and without fail "bearded women" am
  26. maxim1
    +6
    12 May 2014 19: 37
    Not only to forbid flights, but also to immediately turn off the gas, I motivate with debt and everything, everyone else is vile and not adequate in the relationship.
    Given the increased brutality of the geyrops and warn them of ending patience. To reptiles you need to be strict, but fair and beat accurately, but hard!
    1. +5
      12 May 2014 19: 58
      Quote: maxim1
      Not only to ban flights, but also immediately turn off the gas, I motivate with debts


      No, everything will be in turn. Russia will bill Ukraine tomorrow, i.e. 13-th and will wait until the 2-th of June, and only then will turn off the valve.

      "Russia will cut off gas supplies to Ukraine on June 3, if it does not receive an advance payment.
      Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that Russia has been transferring Ukraine to an advance payment for gas supplies since June: Gazprom will issue an invoice to Naftogaz already on May 13 and will wait for its payment until June 2 inclusive, and in case of non-receipt of funds from 10.00 Moscow time On June 3, supplies to Ukraine will be cut off. "
      http://ria.ru/economy/20140512/1007512231.html
      1. 0
        12 May 2014 20: 35
        Quote: mamont5
        Russia will disconnect gas to Ukraine on June 3 if it does not receive an advance payment.

        won that all sorts of eggs want to issue debt for several lard and they pay off with Russia request the question is, do we need pieces of bankrupt paper that are always lying and clearly unable to answer for their words?
  27. +17
    12 May 2014 19: 40
    In Mariupol, civilians were shot, massacres, the real death toll is hiding. This was announced today during the conciliation council by the leader of the Communist Party of Ukraine Pyotr Symonenko. "In Mariupol there was a shooting of civilians, massacres, the real number of the dead is hiding. And the dead, especially among the local population. There is not a single word of truth, because the peaceful demonstration was shot on May 9th. And this was indicative of the current government ... Blood on in your hands today. You have declared 7 million of the population terrorists, "Symonenko said.



    And Turchinov was really scared of the consequences. We look at his face on 6.02
    1. Sinara70
      +2
      12 May 2014 21: 42
      The leader of the Communist Party of the Ukrainian SSR is right .. !!!!
      A thousand times right !!!!!
      And these P.I.D.O.R.Y.- from the mystic hero KIEV ....
      !!!
      SHAKING !!!!! The rope on them cries !!!!!
    2. Sinara70
      0
      12 May 2014 21: 42
      The leader of the Communist Party of the Ukrainian SSR is right .. !!!!
      A thousand times right !!!!!
      And these P.I.D.O.R.Y.- from the mystic hero KIEV ....
      !!!
      SHAKING !!!!! The rope on them cries !!!!!
    3. +3
      12 May 2014 21: 46
      Well done Petr Symonenko, was not afraid to tell the truth to the beast in the den! Respect! Thank you Sergey for the video!
    4. 0
      13 May 2014 06: 19
      Quote: BigShip
      We look at his face on 6.02

      good hto vrava? laughing
  28. +5
    12 May 2014 19: 40
    Quote: author
    Russian planes traveling from Moscow or St. Petersburg to Simferopol airport are forced to make a considerable air “detour” bypassing Ukraine


    Many probably remember the flight of Vladimir Vladimirovich on the combat training Su-27 over Chechnya ...
    Fewer people know about the ground operation of the preparatory phase of this successful event.
    So, perhaps, this experience will be in demand in ensuring the safety of air transportation.
  29. +6
    12 May 2014 19: 42
    also all prostitutes in Kiev send
    1. +2
      12 May 2014 20: 32
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      also all prostitutes in Kiev send
      That is, to the homeland
    2. 0
      12 May 2014 20: 32
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      also all prostitutes in Kiev send
      That is, to the homeland
  30. +7
    12 May 2014 19: 42
    Yes, close the sky for the sides from Geyropa to Ukraine and that’s all ... let them fly through Romania. And it’s time for the Americans to close the trains through Russia to Afghanistan. And with gas it’s time to stop shredding ... Nobody ever gave us anything in debt, they paid for everything with gold, not paper! And then ... it’s not funny to look at it all. We spit in the face of all and sundry, and we all wipe ourselves ...
  31. +6
    12 May 2014 19: 45
    but you can still
    1. +1
      12 May 2014 19: 50
      It's time to stop babysitting: "Russia is transferring Ukraine to prepayment"
      http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/967717/
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      2. prophet
        +3
        12 May 2014 20: 18
        Quote: Vadim12
        It's time to stop babysitting: "Russia is transferring Ukraine to prepayment"
        http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/967717/

        right! Ukrainian patriots should boycott all Russian goods. Including gas!
    2. +9
      12 May 2014 20: 04
      second series
  32. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 48
    it is for THEIR AIRLINES - it will get out in such a DARK that BANKROM will immediately receive AN ENLIGHTENMENT
  33. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 48
    It is high time! Close the sky and shut off the gas!
  34. upasika1918
    +9
    12 May 2014 19: 50
    Georgia already did that. (on the inscription: Instructions - Take a stick and poke a bear. Association with NATO.)
  35. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 51
    I would shut off oxygen to Kiev. How much can you endure their antics. It is possible for everyone to impose sanctions against us, but we are just wiping ourselves. There is nothing to turn the second cheek - it only sounds beautiful in the Bible.
  36. +2
    12 May 2014 19: 54
    By any means, poke like kittens in a doctor’s body. Let them amuse themselves!
  37. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 54
    Fools - the law is not written !!! Tomorrow they will forbid the sun to rise over the territory of Russia.
  38. 0
    12 May 2014 19: 54
    Lightning: Donetsk Republic asks to accept it as part of Russia
  39. Palych9999
    +3
    12 May 2014 19: 58
    "Lard to steal" is strong!
    In general, you have been observing what is happening on this territory for more than half a year (I can’t name the country, the language doesn’t turn ...), and you’re literally naughty: from actions, events, erysipelas (to name the Kiev panopticon - the language does not turn), a bunch of UGLDS, NEDOOMKOV, (I mean everyone, west of the Dnieper) MENTALLY failed to take place.
    How could you call them "brotherly people"?
    How they rush to the West, how they lick the asses of every euro (from the word "Europe") to the commissioners!
    What abomination has grown in this territory over the past 20-30 years!
    Or maybe it started earlier? Have you noticed? Did not pay attention?
    Obviously, now there NEVER wakes up either a normal economy, culture, politics, or LIFE
    God has pardoned from friends in this territory until now, and the mind will not allow them to make now.
    Poor nation ...
  40. +3
    12 May 2014 19: 59
    It is necessary to transfer Tu-160 to AEROFLOT !! And for Russian Railways do PZHRK and armored trains!
  41. +4
    12 May 2014 19: 59
    It is high time to respond adequately and right away.
    And then they got it with their loyalty.
  42. Platov
    +2
    12 May 2014 20: 00
    No plane should cross the border between Russia and the Outskirts.
  43. biker
    +2
    12 May 2014 20: 00
    there’s nothing to think about! hold a couple, three meetings in the Kremlin with representatives of the DPR. we will look at them, they are at Us and at the same time we’ll cry, we will listen to the Gay European.
  44. +5
    12 May 2014 20: 00
    "Debt good turn deserves another".
    This proverb is familiar to all Slavs without translation.
    Ukraine will pay for gas or not get it at all.
    Ukraine will provide an air corridor for Russian flights or will not fly east.
  45. kelevra
    +4
    12 May 2014 20: 01
    3 million Ukrainian citizens work with us, a very good lever to Kiev! Moreover, they bring up to several billion dollars a year to the treasury of Ukraine, working in Russia! It’s time to introduce taxes for these amounts!
  46. +2
    12 May 2014 20: 02
    it would not be bad to introduce a demon flight zone for military aviation of dill over Novorossia
  47. +3
    12 May 2014 20: 05
    soon in all houses of Ukraine
  48. Orc-xnumx
    +3
    12 May 2014 20: 05
    Everything is purely in the style of a hohlyatsky - that I won’t eat, I’ll bite it!
  49. +3
    12 May 2014 20: 06
    Everything is right! They went to h ... oh!
  50. +4
    12 May 2014 20: 06
    It is high time. Yard punks understands only power.
    And if then they open the sky, then take a prepayment for gas. For the oxygen that their liners burn. And to forbid to use toilets in flight - there is nothing to spoil on our earth.
  51. +1
    12 May 2014 20: 07
    And really, how long can you tolerate their brazen antics. They've already gone completely crazy. The Deputy Prime Minister is flying, and they are kicking out, looking out from under the eyes, prostitutes, and squealing. Shut off not only air, but also oxygen. Let them enjoy the Gay European stench. By the way, how do you like the new p...star of Gayvision? I am delighted! They will all be there soon. Run, good people, to Russia. We always have enough room for normal people. And let the Banderaites grow beards, and let the Banderaites themselves fill their breasts with silicone.
  52. +3
    12 May 2014 20: 10
    And...they are not sown, they themselves are born...
    1. +1
      12 May 2014 21: 19
      cruel with a shovel..))
      1. 0
        13 May 2014 06: 22
        Quote: Chikua
        cruel with a shovel..))

        I would have liked the frog.
  53. federal
    +1
    12 May 2014 20: 17
    Close everything - space, gas, meat, oil, do not allow men from 18 to 65 into Russian territory, only women from 18 to 35, and introduce a ban on walking around Russia with lard!!
  54. +1
    12 May 2014 20: 17
    I fully and completely support all the comments regarding Russia’s retaliatory sanctions against all different dill, geyropa, pi..am. Sanctions and, moreover, the most effective ones so that they would scream from these sanctions like scalded ones. Russia will stop silently wiping off the spit, because we too Oh, how it’s a shame for the State.
  55. 0
    12 May 2014 20: 23
    Quote: Kuygorozhik
    DNI turned to the Russian Federation with a request to accept it as part of Russia!
    Somewhere in 3 minutes begins.

    We are waiting for an answer to GDP. I really hope that does not disappoint!

    The ice has moved... THE ICE has moved!!!
    1. +2
      12 May 2014 20: 32
      Crimea and the DPR are two big differences, as they say in Odessa... Crimea had its own parliament, its own government, autonomous from Kyiv. There are no formed authorities in the DPR yet. There is no constitution, no unification with the Lugansk region. In this case, who should Russia officially talk to? Until the authorities in the DPR are formed and legislatively approved in accordance with all international rules, no one in Moscow will communicate with them at the official level. By the way, the GDP warned them about this... The will of the people is very good and correct, but everything else must be done according to the laws. Otherwise, it will really look like a seizure of territory.
  56. storm wind
    +1
    12 May 2014 20: 29
    The best answer is economic! Enough! We are polite people, but politeness has its limits!
  57. +1
    12 May 2014 20: 29
    That's right, why the hell shut it down, especially since Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners have a bad habit of shooting down passenger planes. I have that case over the Black Sea with an Israeli plane. At least it was peacetime, but now the civil war is flaring up, and what kind of shit is going to hurt these Banderlogs? ??????
  58. Ivan 63
    -1
    12 May 2014 20: 32
    Close the entry into Russia of all guest workers - Ukrainians, all the hotshots from the markets - from home to hut, the same with their whores, let them in the West do the job.
  59. +5
    12 May 2014 20: 32
    Next time I'll fly on a TU-160
    And with maximum combat load!!! good
  60. Stalker
    0
    12 May 2014 20: 32
    Quote: Michael177
    And it’s dangerous to have flying dill over our heads. Well, too much filth made us dill.



    They won’t be able to do anything bad, but they will spit out of an open porthole out of anger at Russian soil... laughing
  61. 0
    12 May 2014 20: 34
    Yes, egg sniffers s.s.u.t that Rogozin will fly in not on a TU-160, but on an AN-2 agricultural aircraft and sprinkle dust on them all there. I shit myself, you aphid.
  62. 0
    12 May 2014 20: 34
    That's right - you should have answered the same way right away!
  63. 0
    12 May 2014 20: 35
    The next stage of the confrontation between Russia and Ukraine will be fishing in the Sea of ​​Azov - a bunch of disputed areas will appear, and a war of seiners will begin
  64. DGZ
    DGZ
    +1
    12 May 2014 20: 41
    And they do everything through their ass. Russia helps - it’s bad (it interferes in sovereign affairs), Russia doesn’t help - it’s bad - it crushes democracy, uses force. Chotham
  65. DGZ
    DGZ
    0
    12 May 2014 20: 43
    Now, if the passage through the territory of Russia is prohibited for Ukrainians from the West, then Russia will be left without prostitutes and “bombed”.
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  67. Korablev
    0
    12 May 2014 20: 44
    Quote: vedross
    Putin will decide to support..., will support the DPR with a peacekeeping contingent.

    Right now!! Let's dream!!
  68. +1
    12 May 2014 20: 50
    How long can you remain silent and not respond to the sanctions of these brainless Americans, mongrel Europeans and kooks of this fascist junta? Isn't it time to answer! Ban the planes of the Kyiv junta from flying through our skies, and give such a rebuff to these mongrels and brainless people that they will get hiccups along with diarrhea
    ================================================== ====================
    Putin is acting wisely. The dogs bark and the caravan moves on. Let the West humiliate itself before him.
    Back in the orphanage, a carpentry teacher told me: “If you want to respond to an offender, don’t notice him, as if he doesn’t exist. It will be 10 times more offensive for him.” And Putin does the same.
    1. Korablev
      0
      12 May 2014 21: 07
      Yes, let me shit under your door, and you step over and don’t notice!
      Let me break all the windows on your car, but you drove like that and didn’t even notice. feel
      Be smart! fool
      You can “not notice” up to a certain limit, otherwise you will become just a schmuck.
  69. 0
    12 May 2014 21: 02
    By the way, what about the Kerch Strait - it seems to be Russian now. What international laws determine the passage of ships through such straits and is it possible not to allow ships of all sorts of radishes (bad people) to pass through?
  70. 0
    12 May 2014 21: 13
    The situation with the sky of Crimea is as follows:

    Article "Russia and Ukraine began to share the Crimean sky" (02.04/2014/568521, website "http://izvestia.ru/news/XNUMX")

    “According to Izvestia, Russia and Ukraine, with the participation of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), have begun the process of distributing control over the airspace of Crimea and the Black Sea. Currently, the process is at the initial stage - the parties are exchanging written arguments, and face-to-face meetings have so far are not planned. Specialists from the Federal Air Transport Agency, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Government of the Russian Federation are participating in the negotiations, three sources in the Federal Air Transport Agency and its structures told Izvestia.
    The subject of negotiations between Kiev and Moscow was the legal uncertainty of the zone measuring 160 square meters. km - before Crimea left Ukraine, this space was controlled by Simferopol air traffic controllers (Simferopol regional air traffic management center). We are talking not only about the airspace that extends over the land part of the Crimean Peninsula, but also over the covering water surface of the Black Sea, including neutral waters.
    According to Izvestia’s interlocutors in the structures of the state corporation “ATM” (“Air Traffic Management”), today more than 80% of the airspace is still controlled by “Ukraerorukh” (control is distributed by Kiev between the Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk dispatch centers), and less than 20% is controlled by "Crimeaeronavigation". But in fact, Crimean air traffic controllers control airspace at an altitude of no higher than 1 thousand meters from the ground, and their Ukrainian colleagues from Ukraerorukh control air traffic over the heads of Crimeans in air space above 1 thousand meters.
    It should be noted that ICAO is a specialized agency of the UN and cannot set air boundaries at its own discretion and without the participation of interested countries. In turn, none of the UN member countries can establish airspace boundaries without reaching agreement with other interested countries. Ukraine and Russia have their own interests in the airspace, which was previously controlled by air traffic controllers of the Simferopol ACC "Ukraerorukh". The air zone controlled by this center bordered the area of ​​responsibility of the control centers of Bulgaria (Sofia), Turkey (Ankara), Romania (Bucharest) and Russia (Rostov), ​​as well as the regional control centers of Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa.
  71. 0
    12 May 2014 21: 14
    Read more.

    Crimean air traffic controllers with whom Izvestia spoke say that they “see and hear” all aircraft located in the space above Crimea and controlled by Ukrainian air traffic controllers, but cannot interfere with air traffic control, since their actions will provoke chaos in the sky.
    “The question of who and how will control air traffic in the skies over Crimea and over the Black Sea should be decided by politicians, not air traffic controllers, since the main thing for any controller is to ensure the safe movement of civil aircraft,” says Sergei, Chairman of the Federal Union of Air Traffic Controllers of Russia Kovalev.
    Lawyers specializing in international and air law do not consider the current situation in the skies over Crimea to be a dead end.
    — The organization of airspace and air traffic services over the territory of Crimea and the waters of the Black Sea adjacent to the peninsula are the sovereign right of the Republic of Crimea. Since the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation, the sovereign rights of these subjects of law became the sovereign right of Russia. Consequently, the organization of airspace and servicing air traffic in this space should be carried out by the operational bodies of the Unified Air Traffic Management System (US ATM) of Russia,” Oleg Aksamentov, director of the Aerohelp Institute of Air and Space Law, commented to Izvestia on the current situation in the skies over Crimea.
    One of the leaders of Crimea Aeronavigation, in a conversation with Izvestia, said that the Republic of Crimea weekly loses more than 20 million rubles to the budget for air navigation fees that controllers could earn. At the same time, the Russian Ministry of Transport plans to open at least 24 routes from regional airports to Simferopol by the beginning of the summer season.
    “We served about 900 aircraft per month before and are ready to do so now, but we cannot control these aircraft until the politicians come to an agreement,” says the interlocutor.
    The state enterprise “Krymaeronavigatsiya” was created last week to ensure flight safety in the region’s airspace, and at the time of the decision there were no longer any problems with personnel on the peninsula.
    “Currently, 152 air traffic controllers work at Krymaeronavigatsiya, and in previous times there were 196 specialists in this profession. The situation changed after the referendum on Crimea’s secession from Ukraine, and then 92 air traffic controllers left the peninsula, and later 48 of them returned,” explained Vyacheslav Pokrovsky, leader of the air traffic controllers’ trade union “Crimean Air Navigation”. — I admit, after the referendum I was already planning to leave Crimea, but then I changed my mind, because I had enough of the bitter experience of those who returned from Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine. The reasons why people return are the same - unemployment and Kiev’s failure to fulfill employment promises, unfriendly attitude towards Crimeans, housing problems.
    The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not comment on the fact that the Kyiv authorities control the airspace over Crimea and the adjacent waters of the Black Sea, and the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine was unable to respond to a request. Official officials of the Federal Air Transport Agency and its structures declined to comment."
  72. kirneff211
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    12 May 2014 21: 18
    a difficult question for Putin about joining the Russian Federation, not everything is done right away, it’s not an order
  73. 0
    12 May 2014 23: 14
    The dill feel their impunity, yesterday the egg sniffer gave 24 days to think about the price of gas, today planes are not allowed to fly. They lost their fear, they misled the al-rams. Prepaid gas is lost and the space is closed. Let them jump!!! Losers!
  74. 0
    13 May 2014 00: 02
    Not only does OUR sky need to be closed to the Nazis, but also, for example, it is possible - a visa exchange for all citizens of Ukraine except the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, a cleansing of all guest workers from Ukraine, except the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, it seems to me that many of them are after the purges will go home, the business of the fascist-bourgeois will be confiscated to the Russian Federation fund, then it can be put up for auction, it’s high time to shut down gas in general, as well as the supply of fuel and lubricants, of course, except for the above-mentioned areas.
  75. Borisych
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    13 May 2014 00: 35
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    That's right - a partial or full symmetrical answer in this case will put them in their place.

    It’s high time to stop the flight through the territory of the Russian Federation, otherwise they have completely lost their belts.

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