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Politics in the style of masutemi waza. Ah yes, Putin!

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Politics in the style of masutemi waza. Ah yes, Putin!



Russian President Putin, at a meeting with the Swiss president, suggested that the “separatists” of the South-East move their referendum on federalization to a later date. SUCH from Putin did not expect anyone ...

The Internet exploded: “Putin surrendered the Donetsk Russians!”, “Putin was afraid of sanctions!”, “Putin sold himself to the oligarchs!” ... What is interesting: both Russian “imperialists” and Ukrainian “Maydans” agreed in this opinion. The last day shouted all day: “We have defeated Putin! Now we will take away the Crimea from him! ”

Frankly, I was also very surprised. But not to the unexpected “betrayal of Putin”, but on the contrary - to an unexpected and brilliantly held reception, to which it is impossible to find a counter technique. You still do not understand? Then I explain on the fingers.

Let's estimate what the main problem of the Ukrainian “Vlady” is now? In the "infested saboteurs of the Russian GRU"? In the "separatist terrorists" Southeast? In increased gas prices? Past, comrades! The main problem of the Ukrainian authorities is the almost complete absence of the POWER. Well, this “power” is not ruled by anything; it’s not today or tomorrow that the personal guards will scatter.

What does she have? And she has a demoralized hungry army with tons of rusty obsolete and plundered weapons, which have not fired for twenty years, and thousands of soldiers who cannot do anything. In this unfortunate army, they even guessed to call on “reservists” - adult men who were frustrated from their work ... This army lacks even normal blankets and grubs.

The police have this “master”, which for the last 20 years has been occupied with only one thing - collecting tribute from the population, and is not able to do anything else. She has several elite battalions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and CSS, which, for the time being, carry out some orders, but they think to themselves, “You were lost, such a Vlad”.

And what is the most rotten, there is her insane "national guard", recently created from the scum "Right Sector". The portrait of the fighter of this “guard” is as follows: an illiterate, poor young man who washed dishes in Lviv, dragged boxes on the market in Ternopil, guarded the parking lot in Ivano-Frankivsk, arrived in Kiev Maidan six months ago. There he unexpectedly received fame, power, some money, and most importantly - weapon. He wants more money, he wants more fame, he wants to STRIKE! And I don’t want to go back to my poor Exactly and pick up the mop again.

There still tusyat some American "private army", some paid battalions of oligarchs ...

I’m not even saying how much such a “war” costs Ukraine at its poverty ... Worse, without a specific task, any army quickly decays. In my lieutenant practice was the opportunity to try it. On the very first day of the large exercises "Shield-83" my communications center was destroyed with a "conventional nuclear strike." I had to turn off all the equipment and for a month and a half it was stupid to wait for the trainings to end and the order would come to return to the places of permanent deployment.

It was summer, we were standing in the woods in the area of ​​the Lithuanian town of Kelme ... Ely-Pala, how difficult it is to control the troops when they have nothing to do! Young guys fool with boredom, and in the near farm - moonshine, and in five kilometers - a town with girls ... Oh, it was not easy for me as a commander. Then I understood well why, in the absence of war, soldiers should live in barracks behind the fence and be busy 24 hours a day.

In my submission there was a small team of a regular Soviet disciplined army - only 22 soldiers. And what to do with the thousands of diverse Makhnovo-Bandera crowd, which is now hanging around in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions? All this rabble now lives in the mud in tattered tents, eats miserable porridge and shits in the bushes in anticipation of a war with the "Putin tank hordes. " But the "Putin hordes" do not go.

And the “terrorists”, who are several hundreds in number, sit on their tires, slurp homemade borsch from bowlers, and go to their wives to spend the night. And, if necessary, they shoot quite aptly. Already 4 helicopter shot down. They say it is almost 20% of all fit helicopters of the Ukrainian army. They can fight for at least three years.

Now the war of the Ukrainian "master" is needed before the plague - a good war, with tanks, aviation and Grad installations. This is the only way that “Vlad” will be able to mobilize its spreading electorate, find something for the “siloviki”, keep the desired level of hysteria in the world media and justify the costs of its overseas sponsors ...

And here, yawning, Putin appears and with a tender smile says that he doesn’t mind at all that “the separatists should postpone their referendum until better times.” That he, in general, is for everything to “agree” among themselves ... And he is ready to help himself ... This is a bummer! And what now to do "own"? To start bombing Donetsk and Lugansk yourself? Keep the troops in the field in full combat idle? Take to the barracks? And how to take the "Right Sector"? Revoke to Kiev? Oh, not much! They shoot each other ...

And what the “separatists” will do now - they will listen to Putin, will transfer the referendum, will not listen, will not transfer - it doesn't matter anymore. Most likely, they will not. But to bomb them for it is already impossible. Putin did not officially support them ...

In judo wrestling, 90% tricks are performed in a fall. Such a group of techniques is called mautemi waza. This is when a fighter suddenly falls on his back, but in the fall carries the opponent behind him, turns him over in the air and sits on top. They say Putin was a very good judoka.
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  1. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 10 May 2014 08: 55
    +76
    "Everything that happened was Putin's fault.
    And every day he is to blame more and more:
    For the fact that Krymska volost was given,
    Because Lviv wants to go to Poland at night.

    He, Putin, is responsible for the mess.
    His spies are rampant everywhere.
    He, Putin, is our nightmare and main enemy.
    In the country of his agents - echelons!

    They infiltrated the army and navy,
    And crawled into the cities and villages.
    You won’t understand where our people are,
    And where is the enemy, using the "nenka".

    And on the Maidan was his detachment -
    Pretended to be Self-Defense.
    And before the Maidan, the lads say
    Thunder manor and sat on caches.

    Do not distinguish already, even a wolf howl,
    In the swamp of this post-Maid’s dregs,
    Who is Putin's “stranger,” who is on his own board.
    It is immediately clear to anyone - everywhere Putin.

    Kremlin spy. Putin's thief.
    It flows through pipes with enemy gas.
    It hinders us to dream about Europe.
    Kisses our girls on the lips.
    1. Irkit
      Irkit 10 May 2014 09: 04
      +170
      Good mood in the morning :)
      1. ya.seliwerstov2013
        ya.seliwerstov2013 10 May 2014 09: 11
        +52
        It's time to die a satanic country,
        500 megatons nuclear bomb
        Russian pilots bomb Washington.
        Beasts hid in a bomb shelter,
        But we will get them out of the ground,
        Destroy America, burn to the ground
        So that the evil empire does not revive.
        1. riding
          riding 10 May 2014 13: 21
          +17
          Maybe we can do without nuclear weapons?
          1. Flinky
            Flinky 10 May 2014 16: 48
            +13
            And indeed, for Yellowstone, the usual charge of several tons is enough :)
            1. VeteranS
              VeteranS 10 May 2014 17: 36
              +21
              The world's largest volcano, "dormant" for several millennia, according to experts, is clearly "waking up" And if it explodes with its might, the United States will be covered with ash 5 meters thick ... and it will become much colder on Earth ... But Russia will survive in any cataclysm ( we have enough natural heat for many years), but Western Europe will definitely freeze without our gas! Western policy of encouraging perverts, and the collapse of spiritual and family values ​​at the state level will lead there to new natural destructive cataclysms .... while there is time, let them change their way of life.
              1. zarya
                zarya 10 May 2014 21: 38
                +5
                Quote: VeteranS
                Western policy of encouraging perverts, and the collapse of spiritual and family values ​​at the state level there will lead to new natural destructive disasters .... as long as there is time, let them change their lifestyle.


                I believe that the problem is not in encouraging perverts, etc., but in the collapse of the mechanisms of solidarity in society. The fact is that ruining traditional values ​​in the West nothing comparable in moral value or solidarity efficiency is not given. In short, in the West right now it’s what they are ruining rather than building. This is a huge problem.
                1. DimychDV
                  DimychDV 14 May 2014 07: 19
                  0
                  I agree with your observation. So the task is set like this: to destroy spirituality and morality. And church foundations. Today, Westerners do not approve pastors if they are intolerant of gays. And this is a violation of the foundations of the Christian faith. This means that the wrath of God will once again find new Sodom and Gomorrah.
                  Such virtues as honesty, fear of God, decency - financial globalists do not need. An honest banker will not rob a client, he will not deceive him. An honest (and indeed any normal) politician will not substitute a colleague, partner, secretly writing down his statements and distributing them. Can you imagine that Stalin, Brezhnev, even Andropov — would record Churchill’s private remarks, and then give them to the mercy of his party propagandists? But he hated Churchill from the class point of view. But respected his rights, valued as a person and politician.
              2. homosum20
                homosum20 11 May 2014 12: 44
                +5
                I ought to help Yellowsone. Izh got hurt, you bastards, no more strength. Why are there few "tourists" in America?
              3. DimychDV
                DimychDV 14 May 2014 07: 10
                0
                Dragging Major General, and if you do not obey? Raise a pendal for speed to register?
            2. pvv113
              pvv113 12 May 2014 21: 53
              +5
              Quote: Flinky
              And indeed, for Yellowstone, the usual charge of several tons is enough :)
              A button to turn on Yellowstone somewhere in Putin’s office bully
          2. asar
            asar 10 May 2014 18: 23
            +7
            Better channel, better, between Canada and Mexico! laughing
        2. zarya
          zarya 10 May 2014 21: 33
          +3
          Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
          500 megatons nuclear bomb


          Under the ocean from two sides. Probably under Stalin, such projects have already been. am
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 11 May 2014 16: 36
            0
            They also say that under Stalin they were going to build a large ocean fleet. To swim to the shores of America ... And, perhaps, not empty-handed!
          2. demon184
            demon184 12 May 2014 11: 35
            0
            Were but not under Stalin. Sakharov made such an offer, to lay nuclear mines along the US coast in case of war.
        3. strannik.it
          strannik.it 11 May 2014 14: 37
          0
          I think Putin is smarter than you!
        4. okunevich_rv
          okunevich_rv 12 May 2014 05: 03
          0
          Why are you shaking the cutest little head over their heads, there are a lot of ours in the USA, there Monya has already begun to file the legs of Obama's chair :)
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      2. soaring
        soaring 10 May 2014 09: 53
        +36
        HA HA HA !!!! laughing The clip is super !!!!!!!!!!!! It’s a pity they don’t show such people on TV .... I wish the mood and morale lifted the people and the soldiers !!!!! good
        1. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder 10 May 2014 12: 24
          +24
          Quote: soaring

          soaring


          Today, 09: 53

          ↑ ↓ New


          HA HA HA !!!! The clip is super !!!!!!!!!!!! It’s a pity they don’t show such people on TV .... I wish the mood and morale lifted the people and the soldiers !!!!!


          Especially - "e ... anem in America with a red button" laughing
          1. alleksSalut4507
            alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 20: 47
            0
            still forgot ABM slippers.
        2. vedross
          vedross 10 May 2014 14: 44
          +7
          Especially about the red button! :)
          1. soaring
            soaring 10 May 2014 17: 35
            +4
            Max_Bauder, vedross- thanks to the man, you also correctly understand the situation! dmitrich +++ !!! drinks
      3. dmitrich
        dmitrich 10 May 2014 10: 34
        +5
        that's it.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 10 May 2014 10: 51
          -22%
          An article in the style of a la Fedorov! But the article from Rosbalt suggests that .... By the way, I wrote about this in my posts about a year ago. I also wrote that the situation in Ukraine is nothing but a redistribution of the gas market.
          G7 will develop an emergency plan to provide Ukraine with gas
          LONDON, May 10. Britain, together with the US and European partners, is developing a plan to "neutralize" the threat that Russian President Vladimir Putin will use gas and oil supplies as a "weapon" against Ukraine and its Eastern European neighbors, writes The Independent.
          According to the newspaper, at a meeting of the G7 heads of state in June, British Prime Minister David Cameron and its other leaders are expected to sign an "emergency response plan" to assist Ukraine this winter if Russia restricts gas supplies. ".
          "Also this week, the energy ministers of the G7 countries agreed on a long-term plan to eliminate Europe's dependence on oil and gas from Russia and to prevent the Kremlin from using energy security as a political bargaining chip," the newspaper said, quoted by InoPressa. These include the creation of several new liquefied gas terminals in Europe, the lifting of US restrictions on the export of shale gas, and investment in new pipelines to transport gas from West to East and expand transportation routes from North Africa.
          Britain's Energy and Climate Minister Ed Davey, who represented Britain at the G7 in Rome, told the newspaper that until action is taken, "Russia will undoubtedly use energy as a weapon," which he said is completely unacceptable.
          Davie said the G7 has agreed to work to "neutralize the threat" in the long term. And in the near future, Davey noted, a plan will be drawn up within a few weeks to support Ukraine's energy needs this spring in case Russia turns off the gas. A source in the British government confirmed to the publication that Cameron "fully supports" this strategy.
          On May 8, on the website of the RF Ministry of Energy, a statement by Minister Alexander Novak appeared that from June 2014 of the year a prepayment regime for gas supplies would be introduced for Ukraine. As noted in the message, on May 7 the deadline by which the Ukrainian side had to pay for the supplied gas expired. The total debt of Ukraine for gas, according to the Russian Ministry, currently exceeds $ 3,5 billion.
          Ukrainian Energy Minister Yuriy Prodan responded by saying that Ukraine is not going to pay Gazprom on an advance system for fuel supplies at the new increased price. In turn, Russia was warned that Gazprom might suspend supplies to Ukraine.
          More details: http: //www.rosbalt.ru/business/2014/05/10/1266553.html
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 10 May 2014 11: 06
            +28
            Quote: nycsson
            G7 will develop an emergency plan to provide Ukraine with gas

            They would have provided for themselves, they are all worried about Ukraine! ... Sorry, but fell under the table !!! laughing
            Quote: nycsson
            Big Seven (G7)
            ... Even Rosbalt forgot how to hack normal articles hacked into liberalism slid!
            Shale gas blah blah blah! Investment in pipelines? And everyone forgot that the rival Gazprom ’pipeline miracle died safely! Nabuku is not bad! Not the point! Crap and yet another vyser of Cameron and other politicians of Europe!
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 10 May 2014 12: 27
              -57%
              Quote: Sid.74
              They would provide for themselves, they are all worried about Ukraine !.

              Provide shale gas from the United States!
              Quote: Sid.74
              Sorry, but fell under the table !!!

              You are laughing in vain. Soon you will not be laughing. Bad times are coming.
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 10 May 2014 12: 37
                +19
                Quote: nycsson
                Provide shale gas from the United States!

                Are you so sure why some of the largest shale gas corporations in the USA are losing out? Look for information on this topic! Production is declining, the price of exploration is growing more and more! And the cost of gas in Europe will be by 20-30% higher than the price of Gazprom, and this the cost of everything from products to electricity! Do you really think that energy companies and corporations will work against themselves?
                1. homosum20
                  homosum20 11 May 2014 13: 07
                  +3
                  Why did you attack a person? he missed one word. In the original, it reads like this: "Will provide shale gas from the US Federal Reserve." And everything falls into place. They have already provided the whole world with one fiction of green. And to support the first fiction, why not provide the second?
              2. Gomel
                Gomel 10 May 2014 17: 15
                +11
                For Ukraine, yes.
                And about shale gas and do not remember. It’s better to search Yandex for serious analytics on this issue. Pay attention only to industry professionals, not politically biased articles. Look for foreign sources, analyze, compare. And you will understand what kind of animal it is - shale gas.
                1. GDP
                  GDP 12 May 2014 12: 40
                  +1
                  I wonder how all these sugary statements about Putin's Aikido are consistent with the real situation in eastern Ukraine?
                  The article writes about the militias of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk that they slurp borsch and shoot from time to time ...
                  KILL THEM! They shoot them from artillery, they bomb them from the air, they shoot people on the streets, they burn them alive. And what is most striking is the Truth!
                  It’s not pawns that fly off the board — people are dying ...
              3. galser
                galser 10 May 2014 18: 01
                +14
                ball galleries? Already in the United States it is not profitable to produce this gas for itself, not to mention the delivery of it to Ukraine. And advice do not smoke shoelaces)
              4. PATTIY
                PATTIY 10 May 2014 18: 12
                +4
                yeah! disappear yourself, and help out a friend! drinks
                Russian proverb about the EU and Ukro. Thanks for the joke, smiled!
              5. asar
                asar 10 May 2014 18: 30
                +5
                Russia will not die even in difficult times! Everything happened, survived!
                1. orsker
                  orsker 10 May 2014 23: 59
                  +8
                  Yeah. Russia has no friends of siblings and other things, Russia has interests and its army and navy. !!! Well, it’s like an elephant walking in the jungle in nature and macaques are jumping around who are unhappy that he is tearing creepers or trampling grass but paying attention to them is only time to lose !! Either move or be crushed ...
              6. Spnsr
                Spnsr 10 May 2014 19: 54
                +2
                Quote: nycsson
                Quote: Sid.74
                They would provide for themselves, they are all worried about Ukraine !.

                Provide shale gas from the United States!
                Quote: Sid.74
                Sorry, but fell under the table !!!

                You are laughing in vain. Soon you will not be laughing. Bad times are coming.

                were they good?
                1. homosum20
                  homosum20 11 May 2014 12: 52
                  0
                  Why, there were. And there is. In general, the assessment depends on the point of view of the recipient, and not at all on the objective quality. To put it simply, the formulation of the previous thought was created by Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol (the great RUSSIAN - not Ukrainian) writer. It sounds something like this (please do not be offended - this is not about us) "there is no reason to blame the mirror if you have a face .....", well, then you know.
              7. zarya
                zarya 10 May 2014 21: 57
                +1
                Quote: nycsson
                You are laughing in vain. Soon you will not be laughing. Bad times are coming.


                What do you say to this:

                http://heideg.livejournal.com/388197.html
              8. Evgeniy-111
                Evgeniy-111 10 May 2014 22: 50
                +3
                To provide someone with something you need:
                1) that it was something;
                2) it is necessary to deliver something somehow where it is necessary;
                3) it is something that needs to be stored somewhere.
                The gas pipeline, unfortunately, can only work in one direction. To pump gas from west to east, you need to rebuild half of the gas transmission system (pump and compressor stations, crane units, automation, control systems and much more ...). Something is not noticeable on the Ukrainian borders of the activity of builders. If they did something similar, the West would have trumpeted the world with corresponding pictures!
              9. Shur
                Shur 11 May 2014 00: 21
                +2
                All for the better, it’s time already to get off the pipe. All this is interesting. but if they finally push Russia toward neo-industrialization, then where will they put their junk? We then are accustomed to the mass of anything, we survive not get used to it, but they. Where do they think they sell their goods. It has long been time to focus not on a Western colony with narrowly Nazi thinking, but on the world in a broader sense. Industrialization and import substitution, conducting a large-scale policy of supporting high-tech industries and introducing advanced domestic developments. Promoting the export of high-tech domestic products and agriculture. Etc. etc. We ourselves are a good market, and the size of the CIS is even more interesting, and there the center of the world economic system is just around the corner.
              10. homosum20
                homosum20 11 May 2014 12: 59
                +3
                Hey folks, has anyone seen this shale gas? So much has been written about it, but no one (on this side of the "big water") has ever used it. It's like global warming, which is inevitable. The picture shows Niagara Falls during the era of global warming.
                And in St. Petersburg the leaves got out - and turned yellow in May from the cold.
                When you tell your son a bedtime story, do you believe what you say? And thank God! And then I was already scared.
                "If they tell you about black - white - don't believe your eyes."
                Kozma Rods.
                1. Shur
                  Shur 12 May 2014 00: 00
                  0
                  It’s not when you set fire to shale in a bonfire? So smoke, such a stink. wassat
              11. strannik.it
                strannik.it 11 May 2014 14: 54
                +2
                Shale gas, with delivery, processing will cost more and plus how much dough will go to the terminals. As a result, gas will rise in price in Europe. In a crisis and impoverishment of the people it will be a bomb.
              12. nicollider
                nicollider 12 May 2014 22: 14
                0
                explain what times are coming and why we will feel bad
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            3. Basarev
              Basarev 11 May 2014 16: 43
              0
              And besides, such concepts as name and nobility play a very significant role. Here Gazprom is a truly eminent and significant supplier. But no one heard about American, and not only American, shale gas companies. Their names say nothing to the vast majority of the population of Europe.
          2. Rusin Dima
            Rusin Dima 10 May 2014 20: 21
            0
            Comrade you book a ticket from the moon to Earth?
          3. homosum20
            homosum20 11 May 2014 12: 47
            +2
            I propose to hide in three clicks (with a baseball bat) and see whose gas they will pump in 2015. 100% ours, as well as downloaded (preservation of volumes). And who pissed something .... Paper - it will endure everything. Even when they wipe it off ...
          4. AndreyS
            AndreyS 12 May 2014 00: 03
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            But the article from Rosbalt suggests ...

            And you read less liberal newspapers! Since Great Britain suggested Russia to branch off from the northern stream in its direction, so as not to receive gas through Europe. Well, something like this.
          5. demon184
            demon184 12 May 2014 11: 38
            +1
            These downs do not understand that Ukraine is a mine from the United States under the gas security of Europe and it is needed in order to raise prices and the extraction and delivery of oil shale from the United States has become cost-effective.
      4. kingnothing
        kingnothing 10 May 2014 12: 30
        +10
        For the red button and the commentary on it in the video, a huge PLUS!
        1. soaring
          soaring 10 May 2014 18: 17
          +1
          kingnothing you too respect and respect !!!! drinks
      5. VeteranS
        VeteranS 10 May 2014 13: 51
        +19
        Once in the Pentagon they said that in Russia all missiles with nuclear weapons have long corroded .... And when the other day, in the presence of the CSTO leaders, we launched missiles over 10000 km and they all hit the target, the frames could also be changed thereafter....
        I am glad that our Armed Forces are becoming more advanced and powerful, and Russia is stronger! And the patriotic triumphant spirit, living in us for more than a millennium, and especially after May 9, makes us invincible!
        1. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 18: 33
          +3
          Yes, he was astounded by the teachings! Well done! I already sent diapers to the frame, I hope that's enough!
          1. alleksSalut4507
            alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 20: 54
            0
            Have you been awarded a congressional medal?
      6. vedross
        vedross 10 May 2014 14: 44
        +4
        Thanks for the good mood!
      7. asar
        asar 10 May 2014 18: 27
        +2
        Bravo! Cool music video!!! good
      8. ing
        ing 10 May 2014 21: 33
        0
        Nobody knows why, in this patriotic video, muttering in the enemy language? Or have the Americans become relatives to us? sad
      9. android
        android 11 May 2014 19: 16
        0
        good mood provided
      10. daemon
        daemon 13 May 2014 08: 38
        0
        You made my day, thank you always believed in Russia !!
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 10 May 2014 09: 05
      +121
      Excerpt from the article Putin's Ambler, who is practically echoing the author of this article!link: http: //contrpost.com/index.php/108-russia/18325-inokhod-putina

      Further events should have developed like this: Putin says that a referendum should be postponed. At the beginning, Didier Burkhalter suggested that Putin call on Eastern Ukraine to cancel the referendum altogether, but Putin did not agree. Then the parties agreed that Putin would simply postpone him, and here, very importantly, Putin turned from a spoiler into a hunter, and now Burkhalter pecked at his bait. Putin the same hour he hooked. The hook turned out to be very deep. However, the United States has not understood anything yet. It seemed to the ladies from the State Department that this time they would drive Putin. In their opinion, a delicate game began. To make the game look real, Ms. Nuland admitted that Kiev had not disarmed the bloodsuckers and thereby created tension already in Kiev, which threatens to seriously destabilize the junta itself. Bloodsuckers are already openly saying that they will cut rabbits. For the picture to be completely full-color, it should be remembered that literally two days ago Tymoshenko began talking about the third revolution. As a matter of fact, this is exactly what we expected. The junta is heading for tartarara, and if earlier our assumption that the junta might just run away from the country seemed impossible, today there are fewer such people. Just one example. At that moment, when the West wants to resolve the situation, clever people from Kiev say that Kiev will continue punitive operations. Fine? How to transfer a referendum under such conditions? Of course, Donbass will do everything to make it happen, and the number of people speaking out on it will grow and votes will be against Kiev. Of course, Kiev will want to arrange a massacre on election day, intimidate people and disrupt the referendum. It seems that this is well understood in the East of Ukraine and is preparing for such a development of events.

      What follows from all this? Well, firstly, for those who were "sickeningly sick" at the forums, they say Putin passed everything and threw it, but then it all seemed not quite right, and later it really didn't. Now it is clear to everyone that the East is doing what it sees fit and that they listen to Putin’s opinion, but act on their own. So Putin’s opinion is worth nothing? To put it mildly, this opinion of the West does not cost anything, and Putin’s opinion is also listened to a very significant extent. Does this mean that Putin will be offended by the Donbass and will not help if such a need comes? In no case. In general, something else is obvious. The fact that Putin proposed to postpone the referendum, and Donbass refused, does not mean that Putin handed over someone, but Putin only raised the leadership of the East of Ukraine higher, showing that they make decisions independently. This will make the results of the referendum even more influential: well, you, they did not listen to Putin himself! Understand, the garden heads from the State Department, Putin is not a girl who will be offended for every reason, if that were so, he would not have allowed an American to go to Russia for ten years. Putin is a very pragmatic and flexible person, but a very tough politician, he works for the result, not losing sight of the goal for even a second.
      1. soaring
        soaring 10 May 2014 10: 00
        +35
        - thanks for the accurate description of the actions of GDP! I completely agree with you and I have exactly the same thoughts appeared after comprehending Putin’s speech. He's just smart !!! good Sid.74- drinks
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 10 May 2014 10: 14
          +41
          Quote: soaring
          Sid.74- drinks
          Victory will be ours! drinks
          Right now, under the window, the rally ran, Volga 21, Victory and other auto classics !!! With flags, with ribbons, the second day a smile like a Cheshire cat! yes
          Someone minus in powerless malice! crying Well, they’ve gone to a swing !!! tongue
          1. subbtin.725
            subbtin.725 10 May 2014 10: 52
            +5
            Quote: Sid.74
            Someone minus in powerless malice!

            And this is all the same, the so-called 5th column.
          2. soaring
            soaring 10 May 2014 17: 48
            +6
            Sid.74
            Someone minus in powerless malice! crying Well them in a swing !!! tongue
            Who minus that Natsik !!! lol How are they about the jumps and her .... fool
            And I am delighted with the parade in Moscow and especially Sevastopol! Aviation - such handsome men and people with such joy and hope on their faces !!! MINIs in comparison with this - easy bunch, incontinence ....
            We and Victory are inseparable !!! yes
            If not us, then who! Sid. 74 drinks
            1. asar
              asar 10 May 2014 19: 33
              +2
              And they minded me! Yes, and high with them!
        2. smart Fox
          smart Fox 10 May 2014 12: 35
          -10%
          Whoever goes around our Putin will live a thousand years!
          1. alleksSalut4507
            alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 21: 01
            0
            Alaska remained. And what else is in the US? Uh, just a thousand.
            1. old man
              old man 12 May 2014 13: 10
              0
              RUSSIAN CALIFORNIA was also ours in the 18th century.
        3. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 18: 36
          +1
          Ah yes Putin!
          1. alleksSalut4507
            alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 21: 03
            +1
            oh yes GDPU, and yes mother's son. as ASPushkin used to say ..
      2. kaluganew
        kaluganew 10 May 2014 11: 00
        +22
        Now the country has a huge patriotic upsurge, the games in Sochi, Crimea ..... Not one sane politician will not ruin this in his country. You need to understand that in essence this is the next stage of Putin’s project to revive Russia. The East is a delicate matter, you won’t take it from a swoop. + Well, at least kill me, I don’t believe that help in the form of weapons doesn’t come to the militiamen + consultations from the relevant services + volunteers Admit it now, this could be equated with the introduction of troops, but not official intervention is another trump card in our deck. Be patient, the stakes are very high.
        1. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 18: 40
          +2
          "Us" are not there! As it was not in other "hot spots" - Africa, Central America, Asia!
      3. s.melioxin
        s.melioxin 10 May 2014 12: 13
        +9
        + 100, I'm for !!!
      4. Stanislas
        Stanislas 10 May 2014 13: 06
        +3
        Quote: Sid.74
        Understand garden heads from the State Department, Putin is not a girl who will be offended for every reason
        If our "garden heads" also understand this, then there will be a noticeable decrease in the number of all-worshipers.
    3. maks-101
      maks-101 10 May 2014 09: 17
      +25
      Putin is a strategist and calculates his moves far ahead, Obama the monkey they tell him he does, and someone warms his hands on this in the USA, money decides everything in their money in the West but not in our country.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 10 May 2014 09: 50
        +36
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        Putin is a strategist and calculates his moves far ahead

        Well, someone believes in it and someone does not! There is nothing to be done, some want to see such a tough politician as Stalin and not Putin! And you can understand them, Stalin is a legend who in his own name sets up puddles under the trousers of our liberals! Putin he considered a more flexible politician and wasting resources on incredible weapons senseless, forcing Europe to bite with each other is unbelievable, European business made a demarche to the top of the German leadership and the giants Siemens Adidas just didn’t send ... NATO is frantically looking for someone to fuck and at the same time, it doesn’t rake it on its own and continues to degrade! The US economy and Yapov are inflating a megaball and here it will tear! And Putin is pulling rubber and exposing all Western politicians to helpless infantile morons! That’s why the liberals will mow under patriots giving harmful advice to send Russian troops to Ruin, here the troops are leading, and now they’ll start to scold the authorities, but that they have entered the troops! And in this case, you will need to literally put the subsidized economy of the Ruins on your budget! And you will have sanctions and stronger NATO troops in Europe Russia’s goal! And here’s another cold war and a clear division into wild eastern barbarians in the east and white and fluffy Europe in the west! Now time is playing for us! But you need to help the South-East, first with the help of the Ministry of Emergencies, officially at the request of the Donetsk Republic, humanitarian aid, medical aid, then there will be GRU help! After the referendum, our hands will be untied! Patience and patience again, no matter how painful it is to watch us! Then after the demarche of Donetsk, the junta will run and the South-East will see that it is possible to be independent from memory !!!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 10 May 2014 10: 06
          +40
          I advise you to read the article of a Ukrainian: A little about Ukraine on the site: http: //aftershock.su/? Q = node / 229151

          All these three articles draw different conclusions, but they see the situation about the same! I will quote an excerpt!


          First of all, the people fell into despondency because of Putin's request, addressed to the representatives of the South-East of Ukraine, to postpone the referendum on independence planned by them for May 11 this year. The most nervous ones immediately cursed the Russian president, starting to shout that he had "leaked" them, and yet yesterday he should have brought Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine and seized everything there. Others, happily rubbing their hands, began to spread about the weakness of the Russian president.

          I will not enter into a discussion about such an emotional reaction, but simply express a few thoughts in connection with the statements of the President of the Russian Federation.

          Firstly, in my opinion, only a careless and dim-witted person, being in the chair of the Russian president, would now send Russian troops to Ukraine. I will not list a number of negative factors that Russia would have faced after that. The smart one will figure it out, but the fool doesn’t need it. But I will ask only one simple question: who knows exactly how the overwhelming majority of the population of the South-East will accept the entry of Russian troops? As invaders or liberators? After all, the desire to separate from Kiev does not mean an automatic desire to see the Russian army on the streets.

          This I mean that the introduction of the Russian army into the territory of Ukraine will be justified and expedient only if there is complete confidence that the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the South-East wants this. This was the case in Ossetia and Abkhazia. Otherwise, input will harm everyone more than it will benefit. Our people must fully taste all the "joys" of the post-Maidan political regime in order to make the right choice on their own. But this takes time.
        2. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 10 May 2014 10: 35
          +13
          Bloodsuckers are already openly saying that they will cut rabbits.

          The State Department must be humanistic: at the expense of taxpayers, it is necessary to buy and send Yaytsenyuk and the company rope and soap. In order to save money, you can do one at all. Oh, what to introduce the State Department in expenses! I myself can collect such a package and send it to the addressee!
        3. VeteranS
          VeteranS 10 May 2014 14: 01
          +8
          The most interesting thing is that through the OSCE, all the militias of the South-East ceased to be a bunch of miserable terrorists, as is reported in the United States and their Kiev jugglers-six, but became full-fledged participants in negotiations on the de-escalation of the situation in long-suffering Ukraine. And the West, falling into the trap of V. Putin, will have to reckon with the authoritative opinion of the OSCE.
          God save Russia and Holy Russia!
        4. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 18: 47
          +1
          You're right! Patience, and again patience! Though bitter!
      2. cat 1970
        cat 1970 10 May 2014 10: 50
        +18
        Vova, I don’t like as a person, but I RESPECT as a politician, for which I don’t like- (laugh, I don’t remember the dates) stood in Gudermes (CR), this, after Chernorechye (i.e. after 24.12.1999), or immediately after 13.01.2000/700/2 There were about 400 of us at the base located on the territory of the medical plant, all of us (this is the beginning of the 700nd Chechen war) fought, there were heavy losses. Before the military commandant's office was XNUMX meters, I remember, even we were surprised, suddenly there were people (probably polite) who appeared from nowhere. After some time, it turned out that President V.V. Putin. I know for sure there were only staff in the commandant's office, then everyone was at war, but Putin gathered the "chefs", thanked them for their service, and presented them with gifts (this is where * Putin's knives * come from). And at that time, nearby, there were XNUMX people of the Eastern group of troops and forces that fought. The guys were offended, you know, Putin hates the Ministry of Internal Affairs, because he himself is from the State Security ????. For a long time I carried a grudge in myself - or is it, HIGHEST INTERESTS, ???
        Further, the SOBR "ran over" (ran under the law) on a relative of Putin. The answer is "so that I would not hear such an abbreviation" and SOBR (he also bore all the hardships of the war, he cannot be disbanded), received the name OMSN (advertising of those times - "omso - gentle tights" .....). I understand, rampant crime, commanded from crosses, one attempt to rename the Organized Crime Department (UBOPiK) into UBOPiK (added corruption), do you feel ridicule ??
        But Glory to God, we, loving, not loving, fulfilled our duty (many died without knowing what kind of duty it was). AND WHAT PUTIN HAS DONE NOW FORGIVES (from my point of view) EVERYTHING to HIM.
        1. AndreyS
          AndreyS 12 May 2014 00: 38
          +2
          Quote: cat 1970
          SOBR (he also bore all the hardships of the war, it cannot be disbanded), received the name OMSN (advertising of those times - "omso - gentle tights" .....)

          You will forgive me dear, but unfortunately your truth is a little crooked. It was not Putin's idea with the OMSN, believe me. Moreover, it was with his light hand that special forces began to raise, and V.V. always respected. I don't remember it in 2005-2006 now. I myself was not present, but my good friend, at the moment the deputy commander of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, met, in the format of drinking tea (usually this happens after awards in the Kremlin), and so the middle beginning. the staff was left, and the higher and senior were kicked out and not allowed, he talked with the specialists around three o'clock (by the way, there were many SOBR officers there). And then I made conclusions. And the abbreviation OMSN is a notion of "very smart" comrades from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, unfortunately. Excuse me if I accidentally offended you with anything !!!!!!!
      3. asar
        asar 10 May 2014 18: 45
        +2
        In short, not the frame at all, but just a TALKING BASCH!
    4. ran nearby
      ran nearby 10 May 2014 10: 04
      +10
      Some kind of "matrix" lol Not Putin, but Agent Smith bully
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 10 May 2014 10: 42
        +7
        Quote: next to run
        Not Putin, but Agent Smith
    5. 120352
      120352 10 May 2014 11: 30
      0
      Cool verse! "+", no doubt!
    6. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 10 May 2014 12: 19
      +2
      Bravo Putin! I have no doubt in him, he does everything CORRECTLY!
    7. Artyom
      Artyom 10 May 2014 14: 36
      +11
      "PUTIN - EVERYWHERE" Quote

      It became scary to live terribly:
      He is everywhere - this Putin!
      What is not sitting in the Kremlin?
      Putin wanders along the border
      Knead Devil's dough
      And captures and protests.
      Every first grader knows -
      This is Putin in the Donbass
      Alpha was trapped,
      In Kramatorsk he burned a “turntable”,
      And in a moment
      The ATM broke with Beni.
      He attacked the TV tower,
      He brought a tire to the checkpoint.
      Fought off under Soledar
      Putin has six attacks for a reason:
      Hidden in a mine - Putin knew -
      Arsenal of weapons!
      Putin is in an armored personnel carrier with a cannon.
      Putin - in the image of an old woman
      Borsch cooked to the separatists,
      And dumplings to terrorists.
      Putin is masked. Putin is in a helmet.
      It is he who exaggerates!
      Both in form and in essence
      He is among us. Everywhere - Putin.
      Yes, and in their ranks, it seems,
      Putin made a mess of it, too.
      Putin nightmares the junta -
      Well, he started riots,
      Everything is braided like ivy -
      Almighty and omnipresent.
      You can’t sleep. Close your eyelashes -
      Then Putin will dream.
      Do not run away. Everywhere - Putin.
      It became scary to live terribly. laughing
      1. Irkit
        Irkit 10 May 2014 21: 27
        +4
        Too lazy to read :)
  2. Hudo
    Hudo 10 May 2014 08: 55
    -108%
    Not an article, but some kind of twist - an attempt to give the appearance of a certain decency of the Kremlin’s zero reaction to events in the Donbass.
    1. Buran
      Buran 10 May 2014 09: 29
      +38
      Do you want a stupid bloody reprisal? If an army is to be introduced now, then only from the real alignment of forces, the current Ukrainian Armed Forces will be rolled out in a thin, thin layer. And kravoseki from punitive turn into victims. Again, you will begin to cry for civilian casualties, well, who prevents these peaceful people from getting up and protecting their cities? It turns out that the leadership of the militia persuades people to save themselves and loved ones. As practice shows, where there is a real rebuff, the punitive is quite allotted. With his joint statement, Putin has legitimized a referendum. What do I focus on the word - joint. That is, the foreign guest was present and did not mind.
    2. HAM
      HAM 10 May 2014 09: 32
      +6
      Nothing, you, and did not understand, dear.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 34
        -37%
        Quote: HAM
        Nothing, you, and did not understand, dear.

        Yes, where are we already syriem. laughing
        And how can we be if noodles are not hung on our ears?
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 10 May 2014 09: 46
          +11
          Yes, where are we already
          Not tired of being syri? Maybe it's time to change the color?
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 49
            -28%
            Quote: Serg 122
            Yes, where are we already
            Not tired of being syri? Maybe it's time to change the color?


            Can you pull spaghetti from your ears and open your eyes?
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 11: 11
            +4
            Quote: Serg 122
            Not tired of being syri? Maybe it's time to change the color?

            What people........
            Quote: Hudo
            Can you pull spaghetti from your ears and open your eyes?

            Yes, it's Serge. He hangs these spaghetti on his ears. He has such a job. Ursula something is not visible ......
        2. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 10 May 2014 10: 08
          +18
          Quote: Hudo
          And how can we be if noodles are not hung on our ears?


          Try to substitute yourself so that you hang yourself. And then Shoot silently and feed the Maidan. The USA is doing pretty well. Learn ... Life is a complicated thing. Everyone takes what he lacks from life.
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 10 May 2014 11: 06
          +2
          Quote: Hudo
          And how can we be if noodles are not hung on our ears?

          Well, so Dulles clearly stated it in his plan. Like, understand that not many will happen ..... Let them go on to fuss. I'll look at them when there will be nothing to eat and nothing to buy ........
        4. B.T.V.
          B.T.V. 10 May 2014 13: 34
          0
          Do you really have such small ears ?!
        5. mamont5
          mamont5 10 May 2014 13: 42
          +1
          Quote: Hudo
          Yes, where are we already syriem. laughing
          And how can we be if noodles are not hung on our ears?


          And why are you trying to hang your noodles on our ears?
    3. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 10 May 2014 09: 58
      +5
      Quote: Hudo
      Not an article, but some kind of twist

      In fact, the intellect of a person is laid in childhood. If your parents didn’t manage to lay him, then there’s nothing to show off. Better listen to the opinions of normal people. A PROVOCATORS AND SO ENOUGH!
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 06
        -13%
        Quote: AleksUkr
        In fact, the intellect of a person is laid in childhood.

        This is clearly not your case.
        Quote: AleksUkr
        . If your parents didn’t manage to lay him, then there’s nothing to show off.

        In view of the absence of arguments, I dare to note to you that you deigned to slide down to a banal account.
        Quote: AleksUkr
        Better listen to the opinions of normal people.

        Apparently you mean those who open their mouth so wide, shouting slogans, close their eyes and scream so that they themselves don’t hear anything around?
        These are definitely not normal people - a person without his own opinion is abnormal by definition.
        1. vinc
          vinc 10 May 2014 10: 20
          +9
          You did not notice how you began to describe yourself.
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        3. MAGGNUM
          MAGGNUM 10 May 2014 11: 42
          +3
          Troll, not a word in the subject !!!
    4. Bobxnumx
      Bobxnumx 10 May 2014 10: 10
      +9
      Well, the article is correct, but the Kremlin’s reaction is adequate. We can’t fight in Ukraine, but it’s practically impossible to join the southeast as Crimea.
    5. Thompson
      Thompson 10 May 2014 10: 12
      +2
      Do not drive not only horses! This is not a checker pots on the fence to shoot down!
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    7. nycsson
      nycsson 10 May 2014 11: 02
      -6
      Quote: Hudo
      Not an article, but some kind of twist - an attempt to give the appearance of a certain decency of the Kremlin’s zero reaction to events in the Donbass.

      I agree. And how they’re getting smoothed! It’s not long to fuss. Meetings wind up like a snowball. The sanctions of the West can no longer be stopped. We are flying out of the European gas market. The construction of the southern stream is almost disrupted.

      South Stream underwater currents

      Western sanctions against Russia on the basis of the Ukrainian crisis threaten to fail the construction of the South Stream gas pipeline, according to which, according to the plans of the project participants, the export of Russian natural gas to Europe should begin in 2015.
      The pipeline with a throughput capacity of 63 billion cubic meters per year includes the underwater section of the Black Sea from the coast of Russia to Bulgaria with access to Serbia, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Austria, Italy and some other European states. Companies from Russia, Germany, France and Italy are members of South Stream. But after the start of events in Ukraine, high-ranking EU officials are increasingly making it clear that the construction of the gas pipeline will be frozen and, possibly, forever: they are frightened by the monopoly on the pipeline by Russian Gazprom.
      One can, of course, argue about the legitimacy of the unilateral decision, represented by the European Commission, to halt the construction of the gas pipeline, but in essence this is not about legal casuistry, but about political motives for ousting Gazprom, that is, Russia, from the European gas market.
      Bulgaria is one of the EU member states that do not agree with the freezing of the project for the transportation of Russian gas to Europe - it said that in the current situation it is most concerned with its own national interests. According to the Minister of Economy of Bulgaria Dragomir Stoinev, the failure of the construction of the South Stream will deprive his country of 5 jobs and a XNUMX% GDP growth, and then let the EU compensate Bulgaria for these losses.
      Political scientists from Serbia and Montenegro are also puzzled. RIA Novosti quotes the opinions of the participants in the expert meeting in Belgrade, dedicated to the situation in Ukraine and its impact on the situation in the Balkans. According to Misha Djurkovic of the Institute for European Studies (Belgrade), pressure to stop the construction of South Stream is becoming more pronounced.
      "After Bulgaria and Serbia is under direct attack," he said. The expert noted that Bulgaria is still "stubbornly fighting off the pressure that the European Union is exerting to stop South Stream, but attempts to undermine the Bulgarian government are constantly underway."

      Things are unlikely to reach Moscow’s military response, so the West will consistently cut off the economic and political ties of the Russian Federation with the outside world. But, probably, within reasonable limits - as long as the European states themselves, which depend on economic ties with Russia, do not interfere with and quarrel with each other and with the European Commission. And, it is possible that in the future they claim an active role in the formation of a new world order. Or a mess.
      More details: http: //www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2014/05/08/1266029.html
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox 10 May 2014 12: 47
        +3
        This warmth has influenced politicians so much. and with it a spring aggravation. Nothing, winter will come, through the ukrotrub, not everything will reach the European road. Putin will wait, he knows how to do it. Here are the winter songs and listen.
        Do you know in general that sanctions are not forever, but only until November?
      2. asar
        asar 10 May 2014 18: 56
        0
        Chicks in the fall count! Wait, we are patient!
      3. Walk
        Walk 11 May 2014 11: 21
        0
        D rating of Russophobia Rosbalt is either in 3rd or 4th place. Refer to these liberals further. And you will be happy. Yes, do not forget to study the latest opus with Faces, Echoes and Rain.
      4. wbigfire
        wbigfire 12 May 2014 16: 18
        0
        So what follows from your post? Nothing at all. All this has happened before. South Stream, as a project, did not last a day without stubborn resistance from the United States, the EU and the countries of the Arabian Peninsula. So how far have they come with their Nabuco? That's right, things are still there. Russia is consistently promoting the South Stream and it will take place if there is no need for it, taking into account the situation in Ukraine, Transnistria and Moldova. With the annexation of Crimea, it became possible to create a land corridor for the South Stream. Then only fools will not cling to the "pipe" in the EU. Putin and his economic bloc are well aware of this. Only Nixon's empty troll does not understand. Seriously.
      5. wbigfire
        wbigfire 12 May 2014 16: 18
        0
        So what follows from your post? Nothing at all. All this has happened before. South Stream, as a project, did not last a day without stubborn resistance from the United States, the EU and the countries of the Arabian Peninsula. So how far have they come with their Nabuco? That's right, things are still there. Russia is consistently promoting the South Stream and it will take place if there is no need for it, taking into account the situation in Ukraine, Transnistria and Moldova. With the annexation of Crimea, it became possible to create a land corridor for the South Stream. Then only fools will not cling to the "pipe" in the EU. Putin and his economic bloc are well aware of this. Only Nixon's empty troll does not understand. Seriously.
    8. smart Fox
      smart Fox 10 May 2014 12: 42
      +1
      The zero reaction of such large states in such complex political chess is also a result
    9. asar
      asar 10 May 2014 18: 52
      0
      Well, my friend! You didn't understand anything! Have you ever brought "cargo 200" to your father and mother ?! According to the comment, I did not have to!
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 06
        +1
        Quote: nycsson
        We are flying out of the European gas market.


        But we are not.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 10 May 2014 23: 23
          -3
          Quote: Banshee
          But we are not.

          So you do not live in Russia, as it flies out with a whistle .......
    10. Bort radist
      Bort radist 11 May 2014 06: 59
      +1
      Quote: Hudo
      an attempt to give the appearance of a certain decency of zero reaction

      Judokas provoke the enemy to the wrong movement by using his involuntary opposition in the physical and psychological field.
      In order to use the enemy’s involuntary opposition in the physical field, you should push him. After a split second, he will show involuntary resistance and lean forward a bit. This moment in judo is used as a change in the action of force. When the slope reaches its highest phase, you need to stretch the enemy. The main value at these moments is a sense of reaction. Judo techniques and positions are characterized by frequent changes. This is to ensure that there is a pause between the intention and the new concept, which is the right moment for the end of the action
      Give in to win.
    11. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 11 May 2014 20: 01
      0
      minus you really paid a troll!
  3. fregina1
    fregina1 10 May 2014 08: 56
    +25
    Well, the meaning of course is disclosed in the article! Russia cannot now send troops anywhere, only arms support through secret channels and support the referendum before the referendum ... but after laughing Donetsk and Lugansk are no longer parts of Ukraine! In the coming weeks there will be a branch. Next Odessa and Kharkov! And there, with the idiot guber, a fan of Hitler, in the Kherson region, I think the process will go too!
    1. VAF
      VAF 10 May 2014 09: 04
      -56%
      Quote: fregina1
      Russia can’t send troops anywhere now


      Guys, well, isn’t it even reaching you in any way. what if they would turn off the gas, then .. there would be no war, no blathering gay gay !!!
      Is it really so hard to understand?
      We are "smeared" at all levels .. ON THE VS EX ... and we? Or we are silent or .. "mumble" something incomprehensible .....
      After all, how Lavrov perfectly speaks at our events, everything is clear and to the point, FASCISM, etc.
      And at all sorts of foreign events, ".. someone. Something and when he said that. But now ... look at it" ????
      What's this???
      There will be no separation either of Odessa (it has already been strangled) and Kharkov itself has refused a referendum !!!
      Really no one understands. what next will be CRIMEA ???? belay
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 10
        -42%
        Quote: vaf
        Really no one understands. what next will be CRIMEA ????


        The bloody voyage of the junta to Mariupol directly indicates that Crimea is in its current state (without a normal land connection with the mainland - the White Elephant). The junta will be able to take control of the entire Azov Sea — the elephant will become even whiter, each kilogram of cargo to the Crimea, each liter of water will become truly golden.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 10 May 2014 11: 33
          -26%
          Quote: Hudo
          every liter of water will become truly golden.

          This is with an independent and independent economy! And what do we have ??? Yes, it will not be gold, but platinum ........ And all this against the backdrop of the rejection of our gas in Europe. And how many billions were spent on the construction of these pipelines? And all for nothing ...
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 10 May 2014 17: 13
            +6
            Well, firstly, we are simultaneously laying new pipes to China, although he buys gas from Qatar, but he lacks it, and we can close his needs. Secondly, the Evriks more than once held such meetings and shouted that they needed to get off our gas needle, but besides talking, nothing worked out so far. Thirdly, they need our pipelines more than we do. Fourthly, if Germans and Franks with Italians can survive the rejection of our gas, then the Bulgarians, Romanians and the Baltic states do not. Well, fifthly, the GDP said that our gas revenues are 6-7 times less than oil revenues, and it’s so easy not to take them away. So do not panic from this side, everything is under control.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 10 May 2014 23: 27
              -1
              Quote: g1v2
              Well, firstly, we are simultaneously laying new pipes in China

              In the meantime, they will be pulled by 5 years, you and we will suck paw ......
              Quote: g1v2
              then the Bulgarians, Romanians and the Baltic states do not.

              Who will ask them? This is L.O.H. and European standards! Found a damn argument ....
              Quote: g1v2
              and they’re so easy not to take away.

              And why is that? Down and Out trouble started.....
              1. g1v2
                g1v2 11 May 2014 04: 38
                +2
                On this occasion, the GDP said everything in a straight line, even just find the text of his answers to the questions. They were definitely on ria. And the Balts, Romanians and other former countries of the social camp, even though militarily and economically, are nothing of themselves, but they have a voice like the Franks with Boschs. By the way, with the help of them, the Yankees control the EU, because there are a lot of them and all Amers lick their feet. But without our gas, in spite of all the love for amers, they cannot survive and without their consent to forbid us to sell gas, it will not work. Our gas covers about 70-90 percent of their needs, and they don’t have to buy another gas from anyone and no matter what. Pipes to China already have simply less bandwidth than necessary. It’s not so long to build new ones, since most of the time during the construction of both flows to Europe was spent on obtaining permits from countries and European commissions {on energy and ecology]. China and I are bordering on permissions, no permissions are needed, and besides, from Siberia to China are much closer than to the Hebrews.
          2. galser
            galser 10 May 2014 18: 28
            +2
            Hudo and nycsson eat from the same bowl ?! They sing in unison.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 10 May 2014 23: 29
              -2
              Quote: galser
              Hudo and nycsson eat from the same bowl ?!

              Well yes! You know better...... fool
              Quote: galser
              In unison they sing.

              Don't you sing in unison with anyone? Maybe our opinions coincide? Don't you think so?
      2. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 10 May 2014 09: 34
        +15
        alarmists shoot at the back of the head according to wartime law!
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 48
          +23
          From the order of Stalin number 227. You read carefully.
          "... Therefore, it is necessary to radically suppress conversations that we have the opportunity to retreat endlessly, that we have a lot of territory, our country is great and rich, there is a lot of population, there will always be an abundance of bread. Such conversations are false and harmful, they weaken us and strengthen the enemy, for if we do not stop retreating, we will be left without bread, fuel, metal, raw materials, factories and plants, without railways. It follows that it is time to end the retreat ... "
        2. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 10 May 2014 10: 30
          +5
          Quote: maxxdesign
          alarmists shoot at the back of the head according to wartime law!


          PATRONOV PITCH. Yes, and they are not worthy of a bullet. The rope is just right ... Just like in the photo. Only so, and not otherwise.
        3. Normal
          Normal 10 May 2014 12: 23
          +7
          Quote: maxxdesign
          alarmists shoot at the back of the head according to wartime law!


          Whom do you mean? If "vafa", then I can enlighten you a little.
          Sergey "vaf" is a career soldier who has acquaintances with the best Russian pilots from the world famous aerobatic teams. "vaf" is a recognized expert on the aviation topic on the site. There is no better specialist than Sergey in his topic on the site.

          And you, dear man, who?

          Instead of throwing definitions and accusations, they would heed what sober and knowledgeable people say.

          Besides, where did you see "wartime"?

          He was about to shoot at the back of his head ...
          The shooter ...
          1. galser
            galser 10 May 2014 18: 32
            +5
            Sergey "vaf" is a career soldier who has acquaintances with the best Russian pilots from the world famous aerobatic teams. "vaf" is a recognized expert on the aviation topic on the site. There is no better specialist than Sergey in his topic on the site.

            A good soldier does not mean a good strategist.
          2. AndreyS
            AndreyS 12 May 2014 00: 55
            +1
            Quote: Normal
            Sergey "vaf" is a career soldier who has acquaintances with the best Russian pilots from the world famous aerobatic teams. "vaf" is a recognized expert on the aviation topic on the site. There is no better specialist than Sergey in his topic on the site.

            I didn't want to get involved in the discussion at this point, but ... THAT IS EXACTLY "...is a recognized expert on aviation topics on the site... ", but writes about GAZ !!!!!! Don't you think that GAZ is not aviation? !!!!!
            And all the more so since politics is one thing and business is another, I ask you to note that for geyropovtsy the word debtor is worse than a fascist! Here is a link to the article in the opinion section - http://topwar.ru/46596-kogda-mozhno-bombit-ukrainu-za-dolgi-.html
            I advise both you and "vaf" to read !!!!!
        4. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 19: 04
          +2
          He is not an alarmist, dear! Everyone has their own opinion! And take your pistol to hell! Still, God forbid, in a fever, shoot that!
      3. Deff
        Deff 10 May 2014 10: 05
        +8
        We need to reach May 25. 25 re-election to the European Parliament.
        Then the composition in favor of Eurosceptics will change significantly. Which most likely will not support dragging Ukraine into the EU. Hence, the incentive of the Maidan and the active participation of Germany are lost. And the removal of Germany’s active participation, with Merkel’s non-support in the European Parliament and already within the country, will allow her to change her rhetoric .... well, etc. - too lazy to write a feed of events
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 10 May 2014 12: 10
          +1
          Quote: Deff
          Then the composition in favor of Eurosceptics will change significantly.

          Dear not only Eurosceptics but also Euro-nationalists! Everything will be more fun there! It’s too lazy to write everything, the site is a counter-post, practically it is engaged in the analysis of relations between Russia and the West!
        2. Tektor
          Tektor 10 May 2014 12: 17
          +4
          We need the elections to be declared invalid on May 25th. For any reason. So that the candidates quarrel. Makhnovschina.
      4. sem-yak
        sem-yak 10 May 2014 10: 06
        +16
        Look carefully at the world map, you are our desperate one! Russia owns 45 percent of all world natural resources, and the population with gulkin x .., sorry, nose! If it weren’t for the bomb, we would have been torn to pieces for a long time! And so they pay us, and with the exception of today's Ukrainians, they pay as much, and even sometimes forward! So on what basis should we break contracts? Another thing is to use this possible fact to achieve your goals, well, you can’t go too far again! And don’t forget now the summer is warm, but by the cold weather the vector will change radically, and then we’ll fully declare about ourselves !!!
        1. PATTIY
          PATTIY 10 May 2014 18: 54
          +3
          Quote: sem-yak
          And don’t forget now, summer, warm

          gas storages should be filled ALREADY now, and not in the winter.
      5. anfil
        anfil 10 May 2014 10: 54
        +6
        Guys, well, isn’t it even reaching you in any way. what if they would turn off the gas, then .. there would be no war, no blathering gay gay !!!
        Is it really so hard to understand?

        Most recently, an amendment to the Gas Supply Rules was made.
        Gas shutdown procedure for debtors reduced to 80 days with 130; relevant amendments to the rules for the supply of gas to meet the household needs of citizens approved February 17.
        In particular, the number of non-payment periods in which it is possible to apply sanctions to limit (shut off) gas supply is reduced from three to two (from 90 to 60 days), and the period of notifying the consumer before imposing sanctions to 20 days from 40 days is reduced.
        And this is for the residents of Russia, and you want the law "I want to turn it on, I want to turn it off" between states.

        As Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said following the results of the trilateral meeting in Warsaw on May 2, "the Ukrainian side did not pay for the 4th quarter of 2013, paid for January and not paid for February, March and April.
        "Thus, the size of the debt has already reached about $ 3,5 billion," the Russian permanent representative summed up.
        "The deadline for the April payment has just passed. On the basis of the same agreement in 2009, Gazprom is switching to the prepayment regime. Accordingly, on May 17," Naftogaz will be billed for June with a two-week payment deadline - until May 31. If money is not received on May 31, from June 1 Gazprom has the full legal right to cut off gas to Ukraine, "he concluded.

        January, February, March, April - 120 days.
        Everyone works with debtors in his own way.
      6. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 10 May 2014 11: 01
        +5
        Quote: vaf
        There will be no separation either of Odessa (it has already been strangled) and Kharkov itself has refused a referendum !!!

        Hey, are you a smart guy? Kharkov didn’t refuse, but he is forced to wait. And calm down, don’t groan.
      7. nycsson
        nycsson 10 May 2014 11: 29
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Guys, well, isn’t it even reaching you in any way. what if they would turn off the gas, then .. there would be no war, no blathering gay gay !!!
        Is it really so hard to understand?

        Hi Seryoga! I have already beaten off all my fingers about Claudia, that the events in Ukraine are a redistribution of the gas market.
        Quote: vaf
        There will be no separation either of Odessa (it has already been strangled) and Kharkov itself has refused a referendum !!!

        Without our support, Donetsk and Lugansk will also fall. Smirnov recently wrote faithful thoughts that this is our people's resistance like a bone across the throat.
        Quote: vaf
        Really no one understands. what next will be CRIMEA ????

        Yeah! And he comes around to us with a lot of blood. If you climbed to Ukraine, then go all the way. When these scumbags finish on the mainland, they will all break into the Crimea. I will say more - in Voronezh, etc. area !!!
        1. Normal
          Normal 10 May 2014 12: 41
          +1
          Quote: nycsson
          ... events in Ukraine are a redistribution of the gas market.


          Greetings, Alex.

          I think so. In general, the whole mess in Ukraine, as I think, aims to knock Russia out of the European gas market. And finally, and with duplication.
          Firstly, as a result of the civil war in Ukraine, the gas transmission system will be blocked.
          Secondly, as a result of the sanctions, the export of Russian gas is most likely to be prohibited by law (greetings to Putin’s policy of integrating into the world economy (trade in resources) for the entire period of the reign of the Great Great Alternative).
          By doing this, the United States makes its shale liquefied gas competitive and repels all its costs of its production.

          As you know, any war has a cause of material interest, so the United States will by all means provoke military action in Ukraine.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 14: 44
            -3
            Quote: Normal
            Greetings, Alex.

            Hi Vova. You say everything correctly. There are already a bunch of articles on this matter. The seven have already agreed on energy independence from Russia. So much for you and "firewood". And the United States is not becoming importers, but exporters. But most of the people on this site don't get it yet! They have not yet moved away from the Olympics! hi I can imagine what it will be when it comes!
            1. dorz
              dorz 10 May 2014 18: 21
              +3
              A few quotes from the media in the topic:

              “The best response to Ukraine’s energy dependence on Russia will be the presence of European and American investors in Ukraine. We are also ready to consider the issue of joint operation and modernization of the Ukrainian gas transmission system,” Yatsenyuk said following a meeting with US Vice President Joseph Biden.

              Now everything is falling into place. Why would the European Union buy Ukraine’s gas transportation system at that time? Do not need it and the United States. And under the current Ukrainian government, you can pick up the Ukrainian GTS for free.

              The United States and the EU get the opportunity to "sit" on the pipe and immediately receive income, and even dictate transit prices to Russia through Gazprom. After all, 33% of Gazprom's exports to Europe are still carried out through the Ukrainian gas transportation system. Other levers of influence on Gazprom and Russia are also emerging, and the set of these levers is limited only by the imagination of the US and the EU.
            2. strannik.it
              strannik.it 11 May 2014 15: 22
              0
              Once again, transportation, a terminal, etc. costs a lot of dough, which will lead to a rise in gas prices in Europe. In a crisis, impoverishment of the people it will be a bomb.
          2. anfil
            anfil 10 May 2014 19: 46
            +2
            I think so. In general, the whole mess in Ukraine, as I think, aims to knock Russia out of the European gas market. And finally, and with duplication.

          3. strannik.it
            strannik.it 11 May 2014 15: 17
            0
            The burghers will not do this, they can count.
        2. PATTIY
          PATTIY 10 May 2014 18: 57
          +3
          Quote: nycsson
          Without our support, Donetsk and Lugansk will also fall.

          so go volunteer!
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 22: 45
            +1
            Quote: PATTIY
            so go volunteer!

            Volunteer won't work out of me ......
        3. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 12
          +2
          Quote: nycsson
          When these scumbags finish on the mainland, they will all break into the Crimea. I will say more - in Voronezh, etc. area !!!


          Good to breed a panic!
          How many of these scumbags are there?
          Everything near Voronezh will remain. Near the Hungarians, Germans and Romanians will lie.
          Voronezh is not Kharkov, if that.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 22: 46
            +1
            Quote: Banshee
            Good to breed a panic!

            Quote: Banshee
            No need to panic!

            Yes, I do not panic. And I express my opinion for the future .....
      8. kombat58
        kombat58 10 May 2014 12: 21
        +11
        No need to panic!
        And even more so, the HYSTERICIAN does not suit the peasant!
        I’m answering this from Sevastopol.
        We are not sixes, and RUSSIA does not play flimsy, so that you would so easily scatter.
      9. smart Fox
        smart Fox 10 May 2014 12: 49
        -8
        Honey, why do you need Odessa and Kharkov? They have a subsidized economy. We would digest the Crimea.
        Do you know what the penalties for gas contracts with the same European countries will cost?
        1. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 19: 11
          0
          Russia needs Crimea, first of all, for Sevastopol! For the Russian Black Sea Fleet base!
      10. creep: b
        creep: b 10 May 2014 14: 01
        -1
        And if we assume that everything was started in order to squeeze Russia out of the European gas market. So we turned off the gas to them, and then what? Europe will see for itself that the Russians are an unreliable supplier and will transport shale gas from the United States or from somewhere else, just not to buy from us.
        1. Spnsr
          Spnsr 10 May 2014 22: 25
          0
          Quote: creep out: b
          And if we assume that everything was started in order to squeeze Russia out of the European gas market. So we turned off the gas to them, and then what? Europe will see for itself that the Russians are an unreliable supplier and will transport shale gas from the United States or from somewhere else, just not to buy from us.

          what, is it real? belay right such half a kilo in plastic bags packed and carried? belay f l i! all prapalo sheff, sheff, fse prapalo! crying
          and what will happen? what he ro va heal? and now we’re living well? By the way, here the theme is still such that Donetsk and Lugansk, the pearl barley with them about the unitary dill is probably because of this Google directly gives https://maps.google.com.ua/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=209864008589941260480.0004da02b722
          2a4883a4f & dg = feature
          and to hell with their division of the gas market, no matter how their division fell back on the geysoyuz, they can scatter because of the division of pin.dos.ovs.skogo gas
      11. asar
        asar 10 May 2014 18: 59
        0
        Actually, Crimea is already the territory of Russia! And why, the next, say, not Buryatia or Bashkiria ?!
      12. raf
        raf 11 May 2014 20: 48
        +1
        As for Kharkov and Odessa, especially the latter, if the junta is forgiven for blood, it can follow the Donbass, not now and not tomorrow, but in the future. Crimean junta can not be seen as its dirty and bloody ears !!!
    2. sem-yak
      sem-yak 10 May 2014 09: 54
      +10
      Absolutely in the hole! Crimea was AUTONOMY, that is, by itself! And the Southeast is still monolithic with ukra, and first they must separate themselves by declaring the legitimacy of sovereignty to be established by referendum, and only after that. . . .

      And after that - it will be a legitimate will, and from the legal point of view, you will dig!
    3. PValery53
      PValery53 10 May 2014 13: 49
      +1
      The Führer of the Kherson region had to not only deprive the microphone, but also dunk into some green paper or ink. There was also Musolin (Duce) of the local spill!
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 24
        +4
        Dear!
        I would not be so categorical in terms of "turning off the gas", "all pro-salipolymers", "they are smearing us" and so on.
        Undoubtedly, nobody knows better than Sergey on this site about aviation. BUT: knowledge of aviation and knowledge of the implementation of gas contracts are two different things. No offense, okay?
        Nobody will teach a pilot to fly an airplane here. Is it logical?
        Regarding gas contracts and all the predictions made here - sorry, ridiculous. Especially screams about the so-called. "shale gas".
        A contract for the supply of gas is still a hemorrhoid. Undoing as well as "unmounting" is not easy. I ventured to clarify this on the example of a contract for the supply of gas for a factory. My wife does this. Caught brain cancer on page 4 and earned a negative rating in her eyes. Although, it seems, not complete foolishness.
        Let’s do what we think. And those who think about it will deal with gas contracts.
        1. Normal
          Normal 10 May 2014 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: Banshee
          No offense, okay?


          What insults, Roman. Not the first day we know each other.
          Quote: Banshee
          Nobody will teach a pilot to fly an airplane here. Is it logical?

          Is anyone teaching Sergei how to fly an airplane? Not. A particularly zealous visitor, waving a commissar Mauser, offers to shoot at the back of the head according to the laws of war and accuses of alarmism. Mehlis was found here ...

          So you tell me, is there a gas reason in the events in Ukraine? Or do you think everything happened only because of hatred zapadentsiv to everything Russian? Just like that, without the material interests of the powerful of this world, but simply by the moronity of rural raguli?
          Of course gas contracts are not a pound of raisins. But we are not talking about them, but about the causes and consequences of what is happening in Ukraine. This already applies to everyone, if not now then in the near future.
          And the fact that we are "smeared" ... I agree with vafo. The world is opposed to us and all the power of Putin's propaganda is effective only inside the country, and outside of Russia we demonstrate some kind of incomprehensible companionship.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 11 May 2014 00: 21
            +1
            Quote: Normal
            . The world is against us and all the power of Putin’s propaganda is effective only within the country, and outside Russia we demonstrate some kind of intelligible co-operation.

            Now I’ll hit Putin’s propaganda !!!

            Yesterday I watched the 1 channel, where they protected Farion (!!!) from Zhirinovsky. To which my friend, an Austrian, but a Russian soul-mate, said: “Russians, what naive fools you are, and your Putin is the same.

            Do you think Tymoshenko, Farion, Russophobes in PACE and the EU-only tongue thrill about the shooting of Russian atomic weapons? Yes, they just do not have such an opportunity, while. If they had this opportunity, they would have burned the Russians long ago, slaughtered and killed, put them in prison for Russian names and shot them in Russian. As you don’t understand, you judge by yourself, gentlemanly, and they are the collective Hitler who HATES YOU and who will burn you to slaughter and kill you as soon as possible.

            It’s just that Hitler had such an opportunity to kill millions of Russian people — and they don’t have it yet. But the desire IS.
            Why are you so frivolous about such statements ??? If they had said such a thing about the American people, their accounts would have already been arrested everywhere, a wolf ticket had been issued to their relatives and friends, and they would have been stuck in Guantanamo and tortured like terrorists. And you are naive - oh, a nervous breakdown, oh parliamentarians ... You again need to retreat to Moscow in order to understand this ??? ”

            Journalist of the channel "1 + 1" begs not to show the atomic bomb Farion

            The journalist of the “1 + 1” channel Olga Kashpor, who is now on a business trip in the very Near East, told how she had to escape from the angry inhabitants of Druzhkovka. True, she eventually managed to establish contact with some of the locals and, from a conversation with them, Olga concluded that the worst acts on residents of Eastern Ukraine were the appearances of the deputy Irina Farion, and urged not to allow her on the channels:

            “Met an old friend, damn it. I had to flee from the husband of a former classmate - a killed Colorado, ready to kill on the spot. Just because we are sitting on a bench with a camera. He was extremely convincing.
            They called the guard.
            While waiting, snuggled up to the taxi drivers. It’s normal, good-natured people. We talked ...
            Druzhkovsky taxi drivers are firmly convinced that the phrase: "Kulya in the forehead" - Senya addressed precisely the residents of Donbass. And also: colleagues in Kiev, I beg and I beg you, never, just never write and show the synchronized Farion! This is an atomic bomb, ”Olga wrote on her Facebook.

            I also think that it would be better if Farion did not speak. And in general I suggest colleagues to conduct lustration of speakers.

            http://dusia.telekritika.ua/novosti/24821/zhurnalistka_kanala__1_1__umoliaet_ne_

            pokazyvat_atomnuju_bombu_farion

            We conclude that gas, Putin and the MOSK.a.l.i are to blame for everything !!!
            1. Normal
              Normal 11 May 2014 00: 55
              -1
              Quote: Sid.74
              Now I’ll hit Putin’s propaganda !!!


              I already got my heavy ax and .... and where is Putin’s propaganda then? request

              Quote: Sid.74
              We conclude that gas, Putin and the MOSK.a.l.i are to blame for everything !!!


              1. Well, gas, as an object not animated, cannot be guilty.
              2. m.s.c.a.a.s. and znamo are to blame for everything by definition, but only in Ukraine, for stubborn Svidomo and their like-minded people, but I do not belong to them.
              3. Putin (spelled with capitalization) is guilty of the fact that during his reign (and this is already more than 14 years, you know whether. There was much that could have been done during this time) he did NOTHING to counter Zapadenskoye fascism. Nothing done to defend Russian interests in Ukraine. He traded gas and resolved bazaar conflicts with ANY leadership of Ukraine. With Tymoshenko (and after all she passed the suspect in the case of theft of Russian gas) including.

              Quote: Sid.74
              To which my friend, an Austrian, but a Russian soul, said: “Russians, what naive fools you are, and your Putin is the same.

              Putin is far from it. It's just that his interests are tightly connected with the West, and disagreements with the West stem from Putin’s desire to rule Russia forever. Here is a contradiction.

              Quote: Sid.74
              Do you think Tymoshenko, Farion, Russophobes in PACE and the EU-only tongue thrill about the shooting of Russian atomic weapons? Yes, they just do not have such an opportunity, while. If they had this opportunity, they would have burned the Russians long ago, slaughtered and killed, put them in prison for Russian names and shot them in Russian. As you don’t understand, you judge by yourself, gentlemanly, and they are the collective Hitler who HATES YOU and who will burn you to slaughter and kill you as soon as possible.

              There is a good article on this subject.
              topwar.ru/46646-v-chem-principialnoe-otlichie-svidomyh-ot-moskaley.html
              hi
  4. dr.star75
    dr.star75 10 May 2014 09: 00
    +9
    GDP with a smile trolls and ukrov and the west. They don’t have enough mind to realize that this is a joke! And as for the decomposition of troops in the absence of a combat mission, this is known from the time of the Second World War.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 11
      -62%
      Quote: dr.star75
      GDP with a smile trolls and ukrov and the west.

      Most and most successfully, the GDP of the trolls is the people of the Russian Federation merging the Donbass.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 10 May 2014 09: 26
        +3
        And how is this manifested?
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 33
          -17%
          Quote: dr.star75
          And how is this manifested?

          The last passage about the transfer of the referendum, with a probability close to unity, will have extremely negative consequences for the turnout and, as a consequence, the representativeness of this referendum.
          P.S. I am writing to you from Lugansk. In the city, half of the trouble, but in the countryside, where the population is watching the media from the junta and the organization of counter-propaganda, the situation is very problematic after this "pearl of thought" promises to be especially depressing.
          1. Darc
            Darc 10 May 2014 12: 31
            +6
            Sorry, but I do not agree with you: 1. It is impossible to send in Russian troops, including because of the ongoing ongoing anti-Russian propaganda, but you yourself say that many people trust the junta mass media. Accordingly, how many of them will see the introduction of troops as occupation? How much will harm, shoot in the back? How many for a lifetime will they drive into their heads and will they tell the children that they have been conquered? This will probably sound cruel, but I think it would be better if you free yourself from the junta (I won’t believe that you aren’t helping from Russia), and then, after a few years, when most of your brains are cleared of lies, join Russia , well, or do not join, there you decide.
            2. By the proposal to postpone the referendum and the refusal of your leadership, the GDP rather raised the authority of your leadership and showed its independence than dropped its own. You have to be a very naive person to consider that such proposals, statements were not calculated and not specified: like "tomorrow we will politely offer you to postpone the referendum, and you politely refuse to postpone it the day after tomorrow."
      2. Baikal
        Baikal 10 May 2014 10: 09
        +9
        Well, take a rifle in your hands and go to the Donbass to defend if Putin is wrong and you know better.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 19
          +7
          Quote: Baikal
          Well, take a rifle in your hands and go to the Donbass to defend if Putin is wrong and you know better.

          Valuable advice, though already belated - guessed much earlier, further without details.
          1. Baikal
            Baikal 10 May 2014 10: 32
            +8
            Hm. Sorry for disapproving. I will not discuss with you, because I simply do not have the moral right to do so.
            I understand that from here the look can be completely different.
            Good luck to you. And try to take care of yourself whenever possible.
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 39
              +7
              Quote: Baikal
              Hm. Sorry for disapproving.

              Thank you for understanding!
              Quote: Baikal
              And try yourself whenever possible.

              And then, my friend, here's a family and children where to send while there is an opportunity.
              1. Baikal
                Baikal 10 May 2014 10: 48
                +1
                Can we somehow try to Russia? If there are no relatives, the issue of status seems to be solved on the spot after crossing the border. In addition, I am sure that there will also be people who will take part in this matter.
                1. Hudo
                  Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 51
                  -2
                  Quote: Baikal
                  In Russia, somehow try. If there are no relatives, the issue of status seems to be resolved locally after crossing the border.


                  We hear rumors that the FMS does not find such options for understanding at all. So we sit exactly on this issue.
                  I will be glad if someone clearly and correctly clarifies this urgent issue about women and children - it’s unnecessary for peasants. And then the women with the kids will tidy up, and they will be thrown out like thrown up kittens back.
                  1. Baikal
                    Baikal 10 May 2014 11: 03
                    +3
                    As far as I know, the "exit" borders have not been officially closed. There are restrictions on entry from Russia. But talk about overlap is already underway, so if done, then quickly.
                    1. Hudo
                      Hudo 10 May 2014 11: 11
                      -1
                      Quote: Baikal
                      As far as I know, the "exit" borders have not been officially closed.

                      Yes, no, I just don’t understand WHERE to send my wife and children. Whatever happens so that where they don’t get stuck - but everywhere from the gate turn. I have all my relatives in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, what is the point of sending there, one fig that there, that there is war. request
                      1. Baikal
                        Baikal 10 May 2014 11: 53
                        0
                        See mail.
                  2. vinc
                    vinc 10 May 2014 11: 59
                    +5
                    Yesterday "Lugansk" full of children came (without parents), nobody was kicked out of bad Russia. That would have fought for you, maybe they would have become better.
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                  4. ttv-cfo
                    ttv-cfo 10 May 2014 12: 02
                    +3
                    Greetings here is a quote from the Russian century website (http://www.ruvek.info/?module=news&action=view&id=13521):

                    “... As reported by the portal“ Russkiy Vek ”, the hotline for compatriots from Ukraine has been operating at the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation since March 24.

                    On the multi-channel hotline number 8 (495) 980-25-40, employees of the Department of State Policy in the Field of Interethnic Relations accept compatriots' complaints about violation of linguistic, cultural, religious and other rights, and also provide information on conditions and opportunities for participation in the State Program to facilitate the voluntary resettlement of compatriots living abroad. The hotline telephone is open on weekdays from 10 a.m. to 17 p.m. Moscow time.

                    Employees of the Ministry of Regional Development also respond around the clock to requests from compatriots arriving at the e-mail address: [email protected] ... "
                    I am a lawyer myself, if I need something to "chew" our hookers will help)))
                    What papers to write write in a personal. With great respect!
              2. asar
                asar 10 May 2014 19: 26
                +2
                We will accept! Submit! For the summer to the village! There is a house, a garden!
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 12: 12
            +1
            Quote: Hudo
            Valuable advice, though already belated - guessed much earlier, further without details.

            Hold on there. Your main task is to wake up the Russian world.
          3. dr.star75
            dr.star75 10 May 2014 23: 46
            0
            If you really fight for Russia with a rifle in my hands, I bow to you! Believe me, I, too, do not loaf bread with cabbage soup, but in the sovereign's service: an order arrives - I will execute it! I have honor! But I’ll tell my hairpin. Was it not with your connivance that the unfinished Banderaites first began to appear on the streets, arrange rallies after meetings, and now establish their own rules? I can report that in our city this is not! I’ve been traveling with a St. George ribbon for 3 years.
        2. asar
          asar 10 May 2014 19: 23
          0
          Enough, let's fight! Everywhere they did not go "secret paths"!
      3. sem-yak
        sem-yak 10 May 2014 10: 11
        +4
        GDP by its "SILENCE" does more for the people of Donbas than they do for themselves! Or do you suggest that the president personally took the bat and ran Maidan across the fields to drive?
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 22
          -4
          Quote: sem-yak
          GDP by its "SILENCE" does more for the people of Donbas than they do for themselves!

          Could it be point by point?
          Quote: sem-yak
          Or do you propose that the president personally take the bat and run the Maidan in the fields to drive?

          Just the opposite. I want that here in the Donbass, we should not impose piqued politeness in actions from under the floor.
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 11 May 2014 20: 27
            0
            Well, you got it !!! troll affixed! soldier
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 10 May 2014 12: 36
          +2
          Quote: sem-yak
          Or do you propose that the president personally take the bat and run the Maidan in the fields to drive?

          The president seems to have an army! Or not? wassat
          1. sem-yak
            sem-yak 10 May 2014 22: 36
            0
            And who will separate the "chaff from the seed"? Or maybe you, Dear nycsson, will walk (or drive) ahead and point with your finger - Execute this, and have mercy on this? There you know, no one has paint on their foreheads - where is who! There Brother Brothers kills both literally and figuratively! And here we are, on the tank ...

            there are already some dibi. Loyds sent an army against the people. Do you offer too?
      4. Samurai3X
        Samurai3X 10 May 2014 12: 26
        +8
        How can I tell you ... The authorities of the South-East have practically recognized this "advice" on the transfer of GDP. He had hoped that they would not bear anything.
        Now we are looking at the situation from the West and Kiev. Putin tells his "puppet thugs" to postpone the referendum, but they don't. Did they dare to oppose the will of the Darkest One?
        This is actually evidence that will float across the Internet that Putin has nothing to do with events in the Southeast and there are no trains with specialists from the GRU. What really is the people there rebelled against Kiev. This is one way to break through the information block of the Western media.
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 21: 37
          0
          oh.blokada.evropa, sash? and in Slovenia? what's the matter with them?
      5. Spnsr
        Spnsr 10 May 2014 22: 32
        0
        Quote: Hudo
        Quote: dr.star75
        GDP with a smile trolls and ukrov and the west.

        Most and most successfully, the GDP of the trolls is the people of the Russian Federation merging the Donbass.

        your suggestions?
  5. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 10 May 2014 09: 03
    +2
    Perhaps this is cruel, but a salvo of polite city on the right-wing battalion is very necessary.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 10 May 2014 09: 15
      +6
      Quote: vasiliysxx
      Perhaps this is cruel, but a salvo of polite city on the right-wing battalion is very necessary.

      Do not have Grad!
      We need snipers, ATGMs, MANPADS and governors, morons, like, Kherson.
      And this effectively... If, as pi ... sik Lyashko writes, the fish soup was cut off to the commander of the "guards" in Mariupol, and even the bosses were beaten, then this means that the Banderlog received good luli. yes
      But if the Grad is used from the side of Ukraine (but this is unlikely!), Then aviation (it was not without reason that they burned the radars in Lugansk), the WTO with volumetric explosion warheads, etc.
    2. Baikal
      Baikal 10 May 2014 10: 10
      +2
      Everything has its time. And the time to rattle weapons has not yet come.
  6. shinobi
    shinobi 10 May 2014 09: 04
    +6
    Well, let’s see. If this GDP message is the course of the enemy’s failure, judging by the visit to Sevostopol this is the case, then if their media yell, it is unlikely because this is a clear loss of confidence in the Russian population, another scenario. In general, the next move will be blow to the EU by cutting off gas for Krainy’s debts. I think so. We are waiting ...
  7. omsbon
    omsbon 10 May 2014 09: 08
    +11
    Who would not say that, and GDP again beautifully made the West and wiped his feet on the "great ukrov" !!!
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 10 May 2014 10: 51
      -1
      Quote: omsbon
      Whoever said that, but the GDP again beautifully made the West


      Did ... beautifully ... again ... What, when and how did you do that? As Russia was an "energy superpower" (read - a raw material appendage of developed countries) it has remained. As we change our natural resources for consumer goods and used cars, we change.
      Did you take the Crimea? Yes, even if he returned the whole of Ukraine ... While their industry is being bent, while the oligarchs are getting richer and we are raising prices and tariffs - all these talk about Putin's patriotism ... they’re all about nothing.
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox 10 May 2014 13: 00
        +1
        You know, Norway is also a raw materials appendage of Europe. You look at their export structure. and Canada is a raw materials appendage of the United States. So what? Whoever has what is the one who trades. There would be raw materials, and the secondary sector of the economy is a gain.
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 10 May 2014 20: 06
        0
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        Did ... beautifully ... again ... What, when and how did you do that? How Russia was an "energy superpower" (read - a raw material appendage of developed countries)

        No need for too dull sighs.
        Yes, we sell oil and gas and metals. And in the foreseeable future, we will sell at a high price, because we have a lot of them, while others do not.
        Yes, I would like mechanical engineering and electronics to move forward faster.
        But a lot is being done. Let's say we produce helicopters as in the USSR, we sell tens of billions of arms (and these are the most complicated technical systems), and we build nuclear power plants all over the world.
        And consumer goods in both the USA and the EU are now Chinese ... request
  8. Ivan1986
    Ivan1986 10 May 2014 09: 08
    -20%
    Quote: dr.star75
    GDP with a smile trolls and ukrov and the west. They don’t have enough mind to realize that this is a joke! And as for the decomposition of troops in the absence of a combat mission, this is known from the time of the Second World War.


    Oh well ... Neither the EU nor the Junta already take in full what Putin says. The main thing for them is that Russia does not send troops into Ukraine.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 10 May 2014 09: 32
      +12
      Why did you decide so? GDP can destroy the entire junta at once, physically, but it doesn’t. The EU without us will be drowned in winter with furniture and parks (ask Tbilisi residents). And the troops are not being entered correctly.
    2. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 10 May 2014 09: 49
      +16
      Lord, enlighten the wretched, sick, frail mind! Yes, they all only need Russia to send troops!
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 10 May 2014 12: 41
        +4
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        Lord, enlighten the wretched, sick, frail mind!

        Rather, they are those who applaud the current government!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 10 May 2014 12: 55
          +1
          Quote: nycsson
          Rather, they are those who applaud the current government!

          Well, it started about ... polymers were sleeping! Besides Rosbalt there is no information? Can you still quote the same threshing tape! Can't you see that everything that the liberals firmly believed was slipping out from under their feet! The people on May Day went on chic all it turned out! You are not like a communist! IMHO!
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 10 May 2014 15: 52
            +2
            Quote: Sid.74
            The people on the first day leaves

            Well, yes, for the first time in 23 of the year! belay
            Quote: Sid.74
            on the ninth of May everything turned out gorgeous

            And what do you mean? About the parade or about another failure of Russia's interests?
            Quote: Sid.74
            You are not like a communist!

            Well no! I’m a communist at heart! And also a patriot of his homeland! And it really hurts me for what they did to her!
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    4. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 10 May 2014 10: 37
      +4
      Quote: Ivan1986
      Neither the EU nor the Junta are already taking into account what Putin says


      That's right. I would just like to clarify, and who takes the EU and the junta seriously? Pug also does not want to take the elephant seriously, and he goes his own way early .. I AM FOR THE ELEPHANT! AND YOU FOR Pug?
    5. svp67
      svp67 10 May 2014 11: 21
      +5
      Quote: Ivan1986
      Oh well ... Neither the EU nor the Junta are already taking in full what Putin says.
      You, my friend, are saying stupidity ... The junta is a puppet of the USA and it does not have ANY OPINION, much less its WILL ...
  9. mig31
    mig31 10 May 2014 09: 09
    +13
    Here, not only judo, but also chess, the State Department and the West, with its angularity and arrogance, having believed in their exclusivity, are not able to play any worthy game, look at these faces starting with Obama ... stupidity, stupidity !!!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 15
      -24%
      Quote: mig31
      the West, with its angularity and arrogance, having believed in its exclusivity, is not able to play any worthy game


      And he (the west) has already played it, and very successfully. While beer bellies were grumbling with popcorn in the stands of the Olympiad, the Russian Federation received either Yugoslavia or Syria right at its side.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 10 May 2014 09: 25
        +13
        Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. The junta, too.
        1. Gloria45
          Gloria45 10 May 2014 10: 34
          +2

          Russian President Putin at a meeting with the Swiss president invited the "separatists" of the South-East to postpone their federalization referendum to a later date.

          Putin’s appeal on the transfer of the referendum can be interpreted in different ways: someone saw betrayal in this, while someone on the contrary understood the secret meaning, saying that in no case do not change the date of the referrer, I also met such an opinion on the networks, but one thing is clear that Putin is the only authority for the s.-V. And the West also understands this perfectly, the more infuriating this bunch of Kiev villains. And I’m more than sure that their owners
          despise this scream no less than you and I. But alas, they don’t always neglect being despised. They don’t even need other proteges, these run-in ones will fulfill their role brilliantly.
          But as for "agreeing with each other," I somehow very badly can imagine, or rather I can not even imagine. How will all these Yatsenyuks and Turchinovs negotiate with residents of Odessa, residents of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Mariupol? Most likely nothing. I do not understand the paradox that
          The United States is not interested in the elections in Ukraine, but the junta candidates firmly believe in May 25.
          What can the junta say to these people?
          1. dorz
            dorz 10 May 2014 18: 39
            +2
            The United States and the EU are just interested in the May 25 elections.
            After, the already "legitimate" government will apply
            to nato with a request to introduce "peacekeeping forces"
            to suppress SE and other help.
        2. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 10 May 2014 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: dr.star75
          Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. The junta, too.


          But who and where will they look for?
      2. Ivan750
        Ivan750 10 May 2014 11: 05
        0
        Again Russia is to blame?
      3. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 10 May 2014 11: 12
        +13
        Quote: Hudo
        While beer bellies were grumbling with popcorn in the stands of the Olympiad, the Russian Federation received either Yugoslavia or Syria right at its side.

        "While the beer bellies were grumbling with popcorn in the stands of the Olympics" - Russia got the Crimea, and most importantly - the independent Black Sea Fleet! Now Russia can keep as many ships in Sevastopol as needed, without looking back at Ukraine.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 10 May 2014 11: 17
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Now Russia can keep as many ships in Sevastopol as it needs, without regard to Ukraine.

          Maybe it is certain! And this is very good!
          But it’s probably not according to plan that pontoon parks at the Crimea-Caucasus crossing are activated, and not from a good life. And the problem of autonomous water supply is solved urgently. This did not go according to the original plan.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 10 May 2014 11: 32
            +4
            Quote: Hudo
            But it’s probably not according to plan that pontoon parks at the Crimea-Caucasus crossing are activated, and not from a good life. And the problem of autonomous water supply is solved urgently. This did not go according to the original plan.

            Are you suggesting that first it was necessary to build a pontoon bridge, or what to waste on trifles - capital, drill wells to provide the Crimea with water, and only then take Crimea? What do you mean by "original plan"? By the way, unlike you, I don't give you a minus.
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 10 May 2014 11: 42
              -2
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              What do you mean by "original plan"?

              The presence of a land corridor in the Crimea.
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 10 May 2014 14: 09
                +3
                Those. Do you propose one sovereign state to seize the territory of another (albeit not very) sovereign state for technical needs, so to speak? And who after that are we not aggressors? There is a huge difference between Crimea and SE Ukraine. Crimea was already autonomy within Ukraine and its people decided to join another state, expressing their opinion in a referendum. Further, it was legally framed. SE Ukraine is only a few areas in its composition and legally must be subordinate to Kiev. Therefore, the introduction of our troops is aggression with all the ensuing consequences. But in the case of a referendum on the education and status of the Donetsk Republic (its independence, etc.), it radically changes the matter. A new subject appears in the world, although it is not recognized, but it has the right to conclude international treaties with other states and ask them to protect themselves from other states, even if earlier it was a single space. Something like this!
              2. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 10 May 2014 20: 44
                +1
                Dr.star75 answered your question below. I fully share his opinion.
          2. AndreyS
            AndreyS 12 May 2014 01: 18
            0
            Quote: Hudo
            And the problem of autonomous water supply is solved urgently.

            Please note that they were planning to start the construction of a bridge from Krasnodar Territory to Kerch in 2015, about which negotiations were ongoing with the Ukrainian government a couple of years ago, and before the Olympics, the Ukrainian side refused to pay for its part of the structure, to which Russia said that the bridge is anyway will build! If interested, look at the Institute.
      4. nycsson
        nycsson 10 May 2014 12: 44
        +3
        Quote: Hudo
        While beer bellies were grumbling with popcorn in the stands of the Olympiad, the Russian Federation received either Yugoslavia or Syria right at its side.

        Absolutely to the point. Syria of course! I’ll add to what you said. While at hand. They will gain momentum and begin to bite us abroad!
      5. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 36
        0
        Quote: Hudo
        While beer bellies were grumbling with popcorn in the stands of the Olympiad, the Russian Federation received either Yugoslavia or Syria right at its side.


        With the full connivance of the people of Ukraine, if that.
  10. Ivan1986
    Ivan1986 10 May 2014 09: 11
    -4
    Quote: shinobi
    In general, the next move will be a blow to the EU by cutting off gas for Krainy’s debts. I think so. We are waiting ...

    Nope, it won’t. Never.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 10 May 2014 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: Ivan1986
      Neither the EU nor the Junta are already taking into account what Putin says

      This is unlikely ... They are quite rightly "tormented by vague doubts" about what kind of protests and battles in Donbass are needed, to a small degree"to express gratitude" to the Russian Federation and Putin personally. There is no need to talk about Crimea.
      Quote: Ivan1986
      Nope, it won’t. Never.

      And that's for sure! yes
      What are we striving for! Only you have to pay a good tanga!
      But in the specific case of Ukraine, blackouts should and can be!
      Most likely, as a result of blackouts and negotiations, the price will be slightly dropped, and dill will be transferred to the EU by providing trasit (management of transit branches of the GTS). And the EU will pay for them, and then turn everything from the Ukrainian inhabitants up to a cent.
    2. svp67
      svp67 10 May 2014 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: Ivan1986
      Nope, it won’t. Never.

      Completely - of course not, because the "Nord Stream" also works, but partially, what comes through Ukraine - they can COMPLETELY turn off on June 1, if on May 12 ANYTHING IS NOT AGREED, or rather, they begin to supply exactly the same amount of gas across the Russian-Ukrainian border which Europe needs, but what will "disappear" there ... it will be an "extra trump card" in the negotiations on the construction of the "South Stream" ...
  11. Provincial_71
    Provincial_71 10 May 2014 09: 11
    +18
    After the Crimea, I believe that Putin will make the right decision. He simply has no other choice. And his head is in place, and he is friends with her.
  12. Natalia
    Natalia 10 May 2014 09: 13
    +20
    Now, in no case can you become the enemy against which Ukraine will unite and receive real help. 80% of the population of the Nezalezhnaya will fight against the "Russian occupiers". Calm down the mountain.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 10 May 2014 09: 23
      0
      Yeah.
      then there is 80 percent for Russia.
      80 percent there - will fight against Russia.
      where are these numbers from?
      then the Donetsk republics hold a referendum and almost everything is united - yes.
      then they will shoot Russians in the back.

      careful preparation for the "drain"? )))))
      1. andr327
        andr327 10 May 2014 09: 46
        +6
        if there were 80 percent, there would be no egg, tyanibok Yarosh and others. Rather, 20 for Russia, while 20 but very active for the junta, and the rest, alas, is a swamp.
  13. Million
    Million 10 May 2014 09: 15
    +4
    time will tell who is right
  14. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 10 May 2014 09: 15
    +20
    The article is absolutely correct! Only a serious political moment is not specified: the junta HAD to abandon the peaceful undertakings of Russia! Now Lavrov will poke his finger at the West, and they again mutter with Psaki's lips and stutter !!! VVsegolish ASKED the southeast to postpone the referendum! And two days before that he said, "after Odessa, we cannot influence the southeast" That is, someone was not going to FORCE the DPR to postpone the referendum, In addition, the DPR was given the opportunity to reject ANY proposals of Russia in advance!
    That is, there is a place to be a beautiful political wiring of the junta — when ANY of its actions are stupid, and not right!
  15. jktu66
    jktu66 10 May 2014 09: 18
    +10
    I think that Lukin traveled not only for NATO officers to Slavyansk. The joint action plan of SE and Russia was agreed winked
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 23
      -18%
      Quote: jktu66
      The joint action plan of SE and Russia was agreed

      Most likely, this PLAN was smoked and vanished with smoke.
      1. Fish supervision
        Fish supervision 10 May 2014 11: 21
        +6
        Do not you hike is not bad, but grief for the sane belay
  16. UFO
    UFO 10 May 2014 09: 20
    +10
    GDP is the most cunning politician of our time! I wouldn’t slam something at home, the government doesn’t change anything, and there they sit such nits - even now at a cost! yes
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 27
      -3
      Quote: UFO
      I wouldn’t slam anything at home

      The hysterical tinkering now, most of all, reminds me of the madness of those obsessed with perestroika from a labeled bear, acceleration there, publicity, then, behold, sobering up from current illusions promises to be especially difficult.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 10 May 2014 14: 12
        +1
        HUDO, and you, who do you belong to: a supporter, an adversary or sympathizer for what is happening ?!
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 10 May 2014 17: 15
          +2
          HUDO, and you, who do you belong to: a supporter, an adversary or sympathizer for what is happening ?!
          Apparently nothing. Mumbles some kind of h.r.e.n.: "Uryapatriots", Donbass was drained, eared noodles, something else ... It's disgusting to read.
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 40
            +2
            Quote: Hudo
            sobering up from current illusions promises to be especially difficult.


            Have you been sober up there? Your criticism of Russia somehow does not fit with what is happening in Ukraine. You, before criticizing us, would bring at least the slightest order to yourself. We will deal with the Crimea. Pontoons, pipes, but we'll figure it out.

            And you?
  17. andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 May 2014 09: 22
    0
    Higher School of KGB of the USSR ... wink
    1. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 10 May 2014 11: 24
      0
      Sorry minusanul not understanding drinks
      1. Demo
        Demo 10 May 2014 11: 40
        0
        fixed everything)))
  18. rumatam
    rumatam 10 May 2014 09: 24
    -19%
    Yes, Putin surrendered that there are praises to sing, but they, too, were waiting for something if Crimea. Well, these guys expected all the support.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 10 May 2014 09: 52
      +6
      Crimea was transferred to Ukraine illegally! Everything is simpler, there is a legal justification, With the Donbass it is much more complicated! Impossible!
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    3. andr327
      andr327 10 May 2014 09: 52
      +2
      Yes, a little difference - or keep 100 km of land border. or a half or two thousand. Take a calculator
    4. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 10 May 2014 11: 33
      +1
      You don’t need to earn grants here, but on the censor, it doesn’t roll here fellow
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  19. Dave36
    Dave36 10 May 2014 09: 28
    +30
    And what did the people of Russia want to hear from the President ?? We enter Ukraine ?? !!!!! He said everything logically and on time .... Don’t worry about GDP trolley ... if Ukrainians really start to work in Grads ... then tough actions of Russia will follow ... as the former commander of our Alpha said .. In Ukraine, these are not victims yet, but prelude ... there will be much more !! (Concerning Slavyansk and Kramatorsk) ...
    Yes, and the Russians .. what motivates you .. voting for the introduction of troops ?? Anything but sanity ...
    Imagine ... the whole of Ukraine will dress George ... where are his and where are strangers ... who will understand ??? .... mda ...
  20. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 10 May 2014 09: 28
    +9
    I want to wish the South-East of Ukraine, VICTORIES IN SELF-DETERMINATION, WITH THE LEAST LOSSES, AND BETTER - IN GENERAL WITHOUT LOSS!
    Every morning I watch with great alarm, literally - "news from the battlefield", my heart breaks ...
    1. true love
      true love 10 May 2014 10: 02
      +5
      There is no victory without sacrifice.
  21. Delink
    Delink 10 May 2014 09: 30
    +8
    The game is very thin, on the verge of a foul. Putin calculates a lot of moves, and his team and the department created by him help him in this. I think we will soon hear, read very interesting information. Then we will admire Putin's moves.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 09: 42
      -8
      Quote: Delink
      I think we will soon hear, read very interesting information. Then we will admire Putin's moves.


      You will undoubtedly, because you are next in line for democratization.
      Those who do not want to act explicitly or secretly at distant frontiers and not with their own hands, without fail will soon be fighting on their neighbors, but with their own hands and on their own land. And pay their inaction with their own blood.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 10 May 2014 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: Hudo
        And pay their inaction with their own blood.

        KNOW-
        He who walks directly never sleeps at home.
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 10 May 2014 14: 54
        +3
        Quote: Hudo
        You will undoubtedly, because you are next in line for democratization.
        Those who do not want to act explicitly or secretly at distant frontiers and not with their own hands, without fail will soon be fighting on their neighbors, but with their own hands and on their own land. And pay their inaction with their own blood.

        Absolutely correctly noticed! It was necessary to begin with Yugoslavia!
    2. UFO
      UFO 10 May 2014 10: 10
      +4
      Quote: Delink
      The game is very thin, on the verge of a foul.

      I agree with you. In addition to Urkaina, there are still problems of its own, and sanctions, and inflation, and the stock market, and a lot of things! And most importantly: the "partners" are not asleep, they are looking for everything - where else should we give a shit and what else to blame. what
  22. Altor86
    Altor86 10 May 2014 09: 34
    +8
    Putin acted as in an old cadet joke, you don’t want as you want. (Whoever understands the topic). Well done. Never was his fan, but ..... hi
  23. demoniac1666
    demoniac1666 10 May 2014 09: 40
    +6
    Whatever anyone says, I think Comrade Putin knows exactly what he is doing!
  24. Steel loli
    Steel loli 10 May 2014 09: 45
    -4
    The article could be called "Oh yes, weakness." From such a name it would at least become clear that the modern government of Russia cannot do anything in domestic and foreign policy, only set gas prices for all its neighbors.
    If we take a sensible look at the situation in eastern Ukraine, then what we see: massacres, banditry and violations of human rights of all stripes. A decent country would have long ago overtook a sea of ​​"observers" and "human rights defenders" with a security guard to the region of the military conflict, so as not to let the military down a single step and to provide money / supplies to "its own" by means of ransoms for previously agreed "abductions of officials" And for any spit in the direction of "official zasalantsy" to impose military-economic sanctions, as a country that does not comply with "international legal norms." The West also acted in Chechnya, while our authorities only moo and do not calve.
    Even their "gas prepayment" is ridiculously ridiculous, just as the Ukrainians did not pay, they will never pay, especially in the summer, and they do not care about the industry in Ukraine.
    They suffered the deprivation of the Crimea’s water, suffered the burning of the inhabitants of Odessa, and killed the unarmed Mariupol’s killings. And what is the name of the country after that?
    1. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 10 May 2014 11: 30
      +1
      My friend, my advice to you is to have a good rest after the May holidays, then please regret for an appointment with a psychiatrist fool
    2. Grbear
      Grbear 10 May 2014 11: 47
      +1
      Steel loli
      Eugene, you do not look like a professional troll, but you earned -7 for 320 comments. Most likely, the lack of education affects.
      To get started, learn to distinguish between cause and effect. Then, an analysis of cause-effect relationships will make it possible to predict events, but this is an analysis and, for this, we must learn to listen and hear.

      Then, perhaps, there will be no question
      And what is the name of the country after that?
      , except as homeland.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 47
        0
        Quote: Steel Loli
        the modern government of Russia can not do anything in domestic and foreign policy


        CNN has been reviewed? Or Inter?
        And in Russia we have a different opinion, if that.

        Quote: Steel Loli
        If we take a sensible look at the situation in the east of Ukraine, then what we see: massacres, banditry and human rights violations of all stripes.


        And where does Russia? This is for the OSCE, you are so eager to Europe. There, my friend, there.

        Quote: Steel Loli
        The West also acted in Chechnya, while our authorities only moo and do not calve.


        So we are not the west. With a fig whether to take an example? You, my friend, apparently, are a mire liberal, if you are all so zapadensky image so sweet. So this is not here for you.

        Quote: Steel Loli
        the inhabitants of Odessa suffered the burning, the killings of unarmed Mariupol residents also suffered. And what is the name of the country after that?


        But still. And what about Odessa and Mariupol? Is it really in Russia? It seems to be not.

        Summary: a provocateur from among the ever-dissatisfied. In the furnace.
  25. zveroboy61
    zveroboy61 10 May 2014 09: 49
    +7
    VVP is right, now the "junta troops" have two choices - to sit in the field or to disrupt the referendum by military action, thereby discrediting ourselves. Pravda we understand this, but the West, sorry, is questionable.
  26. demotivator
    demotivator 10 May 2014 09: 50
    +9
    For starters, a joke to make the idea clearer. So,
    Nikita Khrushchev is riding on a train across Ukraine, a man is looking at the field in a field on a tractor and plows the land. A man also saw him and shows Khrushchev KULAK. Khrushchev in response turned his finger near the temple and gave the command to the head of the KGB man to arrest him.
    The tractor driver was brought to the KGB and questioned:
    - Why are you showing Khrushchev a fist?
    The man replies:
    - I kind of asked him, - STRONGLY KEEP THE POWER IN THE FIST? and he twists my finger near the temple in response, sort of - but how to hold it when there are not enough screws in my head!
    Why such an anecdote? And this is because the deaf does not understand the clever. We see only what we see and no more. Likewise, we, being deaf and insufficiently informed, do not know and cannot understand "the full depth of its depths." The depths of Putin's intentions, of course. I think that Putin will deceive everyone.
    In a war with strong opponents, it is impossible to attack "in one fell swoop" immediately from the border in Brest - and to the Urals - this did not work for the Germans in 1941 either. Therefore, first Crimea, and then now it is possible to retreat (for now and temporarily) from the idea of ​​the Donetsk referendum. After all, Ukraine is still weak and so rotten that it will not last even a year. And Putin chose the tactics of "the least expenditure of manpower and resources." Let the Americans and Europeans now (for now) run around in Kiev - they will make a fuss, they will not be able to get anything in this rotten, corrupt and plundered Ukraine.
    And Putin is in Chinese (or Japanese, while he is sitting on the riverbank.
  27. polly
    polly 10 May 2014 09: 52
    +5
    Yes, Putin generally goes and leads the country along the razor's edge. And if anyone is not given to understand that Putin is not the person who can betray someone, then I sympathize with you.
  28. Free Island
    Free Island 10 May 2014 10: 05
    +4
    In short, our friendly team has split into two camps - some will hysterize that Putin "leaked", others sing the praises of Putin's strategy and tactics. I still believe in Putin more than in the fact that he leaked us all))))))) I will not comment on this article. We will, as they say, look)) time will tell. I remember in August 2008 when the "nosed" US army attacked Tskhinvali Runet also burst into hysterics "Where are you Medvedev?" "Where are you Putin?" and so on .. Putin then, if anyone does not remember with Zhorey Bushev, was at the Olympics in China .... and this did not prevent him from sending an army to South Ossetia and kicking off the Americans with their Georgian diapers. And just as I see it, the US took the fashion to use the Olympics, which have always been a symbol of the suspension of all wars, to unleash these wars)))) Last time the Great and Terrible (the nightmare of the entire US Congress) was at the Olympics, this time he held the Olympics himself. . poor sshants .. ugly steel, there is no saint in these cattle .... there are theirs popolyzer in Mariupol on May 9 people were shot ..... how many years they now wait until the next Olympics, when the Emperor of the Earth GDP will be busy :)))
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 51
      0
      Today he played hockey ...)))
  29. Chapovsky
    Chapovsky 10 May 2014 10: 06
    -8
    from the actions of Putin there’s no one who is cold and hot. and people die every day. Obama will not allow the junta to allow a referendum, and the junta to guess the Yankees will jump out of the skins. there will be no referendum, but a slaughter and mountains of corpses. and the hero’s referendum is nevertheless recognized as illegitimate.

    and how much you can try to calculate the steps of Putin. Enough phonatism. Putin has a deck marked, and it makes no sense to play. action is needed not from judo, but from a powerful nuclear power - RUSSIA
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 10 May 2014 16: 37
      +1
      Quote: Chapovsky
      . action is needed not from judo, but from a powerful nuclear power


      Hello troll. Advise where to send rockets?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 50
        +1
        Chapovsky, there is such a thing - "Word" is called. He will help to write in Russian, if that.
  30. ran nearby
    ran nearby 10 May 2014 10: 14
    +11
    Quote: Hudo
    Quote: dr.star75
    GDP with a smile trolls and ukrov and the west.

    Most and most successfully, the GDP of the trolls is the people of the Russian Federation merging the Donbass.

    Shoto, I don't see that. In the beginning, there weren't even normal weapons in Slavyansk. So - hunting rifles and AKSushki, with which you normally do not shoot. SchA I look - new Kalash, SVDshki, PC and other "goodies" As soon as a couple of tanks pinned there - ATGM appeared immediately. This is zzhzhzhzhzh for a reason :) (c)
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 10 May 2014 10: 21
      +6
      Quote: next to run
      This is for a reason zhzhzhzhzhzh :) (c)

      Shaw you? What automatic machines? What ATGM and MANPADS, broken bricks and sled rags! repeat
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 10 May 2014 10: 27
        +6
        Truly so! What are ATGM and MANPADS? APCs sharpened cut!
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 52
          +1
          And helicopters lowered firecrackers.
      2. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 22: 03
        0
        I would use such a brick-mug to rub it-so it would tear ...
  31. maxim1
    maxim1 10 May 2014 10: 25
    +2
    The junta is driven into an endless corner, into a deep cesspool, there is simply no way out of it.
    The only possible "legitimate" maneuver available to the junta is lies, hypocrisy, and sophisticated provocations such as the Odessa events or injections of information such as the captured "Grad" or the "proposals" of Kikimora Nuland to finance the "party" construction of the SS (in fact, masking direct financing of militants) ...
  32. Chapovsky
    Chapovsky 10 May 2014 10: 32
    -7
    PUTIN JUDAIST !!! PUTIN CHESS !!! So maybe Putin can join a circle and sign up all the problems? :-)
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 10 May 2014 10: 51
      +9
      Now it will be, wait! The game is called: The Golden Ruble Monopoly and helpless cut paper! It will be interesting !!! tongue
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 10 May 2014 17: 02
        +2
        How can you say that ?! Everyone knows that Mattress stirs up water solely because of humanity and the desire to bring peace and enlightenment!
        Due to such statements, a typical Svidomo may have an attack. Take care of animals!
    2. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 22: 05
      0
      remember EBNe so he was a conductor ... did you like it?
  33. upasika1918
    upasika1918 10 May 2014 10: 37
    +11
    It’s easy, sitting on the clave, to type comments and become a marshal. Not having the entire array of information to draw conclusions on a global scale. It is easy to twist a piece of smalt in your hands and talk about a nonexistent mosaic panel. All couch strategists and experts are clearly telepaths or secret advisers to GDP. I am not a telepath and GDP does not call me at night, ask for advice. But I absolutely know that Heaven is behind us. And by the will of heaven, we have Putin, and Shoigu, and Lavrov, and millions of people who believe them. Heaven is behind us.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 10 May 2014 20: 54
      +1
      Quote: upasika1918
      we have Putin, and Shoigu, and Lavrov, and millions of people who believe them.


      I agree with that. That's just probably not by the will of some heaven there, but by the will of the people who voted for Putin. Not?

      Quote: upasika1918
      Heaven is behind us.


      And I prefer the Russian Army and the Russian people.
  34. buzer
    buzer 10 May 2014 10: 44
    +2
    in judo, a hold does not mean victory! Moreover, the refereeing is clearly suing Putin's opponent! Here you have to win with "shime waza" (choke hold). Although my personal opinion is inclined to believe that everything connected with what is happening in Ukraine has nothing to do with such a sports discipline as judo.
  35. bucha12
    bucha12 10 May 2014 10: 47
    +11
    Poster for the Ukrainian army ....
  36. gandalf
    gandalf 10 May 2014 10: 49
    +5
    The militia cannot attack now, not only because of a lack of forces, but also before the referendum. After the announcement of the results, if they are for independence, you can be expelled from the territory, persuaded to go over to your side.

    If, prior to the referendum, violent attacks are carried out, this will be a confirmation to the West that they are terrorists.

    Before the referendum - defense, after - regrouping and attack, only polite ... soldier
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 10 May 2014 10: 59
      +2
      Quote: gandalf
      Before the referendum - defense, after - regrouping and assault, only polite.


      Politeness is no longer poorer. Especially in this matter. You would know how many people came to the military commissariat in Lugansk under the control of the mobilization announced by Bolotov. It seemed that he was not far away, but stood for three hours, and the sea is behind me.
      But I don’t call anyone from my friends - they haven’t called anyone yet. After the referendum, if not, then the thoughts will be very painful.
      1. kombat58
        kombat58 10 May 2014 12: 57
        +3
        Sorry for the remark, but we ourselves think the thoughts, although under the influence of external factors and information. Thoughts may be painful because there is not enough faith, doubts jam. In February and March, I also suffered, doubted, but the trunk, at least hunting looking. He knew in his heart that if they came to Sevastopol, they would have to fight. Behind 29 years of service, and to my regret, not only the Soviet Union.
        So I doubted that once again they would betray, abandon, substitute!
        But I had no doubt that I HAD TO FIGHT! Although there was where to leave — relatives in Samara, friends in Novosibirsk, Podolsk. But also relatives in Donetsk, in Chernihiv, Zaporizhzhya region. And this is also MY MOTHERLAND!
        Well, if my relatives live there. Something like this.
  37. Giant thought
    Giant thought 10 May 2014 10: 50
    +3
    A large spread of opinions on this article, has not seen so many minuses for a long time. Of course, the article is ambiguous, the author has his own opinion on the essence of events. Some of the people liked the performance of the GDP, some did not. I prefer the decision of the Donetsk and Lugansk residents not to postpone the date of the referendum, it seems to me that the GDP did not insist on the postponement, but was a delicate political game, and transmitted to the militias through its channels to make the decision that was adopted, but it’s again the same assumption. We will wait for what happens, and cheer for the Russians in Ukraine.
  38. PRN
    PRN 10 May 2014 10: 51
    +2
    The article is correct. First of all, you need to remember that big politics is done in the silence of classrooms! But PUTIN is a brilliant politician who solves international problems with minimal costs for the country!
  39. Fish supervision
    Fish supervision 10 May 2014 10: 55
    +2
    Finally, it came to understand why the pragomoseks are not moving fellowIn the South-East. Firstly, they fire an otvetka there, and secondly, they are given machine guns with sawed flies to not receive all kinds of injuries from militias wassat
  40. artemon0502
    artemon0502 10 May 2014 11: 16
    0
    Accurately noticed however
  41. anfil
    anfil 10 May 2014 11: 18
    +2
    Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
    Now the Ukrainian “own” war is needed until the end - a good war, with tanks, aircraft and “Grad” installations. Only in this way “Vlada” will be able to mobilize his sprawling electorate, find employment for the “siloviki”, keep the necessary level of hysteria in the world media and justify the costs of his overseas sponsors ...


    Russian Information Agency
  42. doktorlar
    doktorlar 10 May 2014 11: 31
    +5
    That's right! Putin is not only a strong, intelligent, charismatic, very strong-willed leader. He loves the country and our people, he is one of us. But are they the same for our future. God grant you health V.V.
  43. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 10 May 2014 11: 36
    +5
    I suppose that if in some "power" EVERYONE speaks the language of the enemy. And the army and the navy (if there is still) and the population and power structures and even the most rabid defenders of godfathers. Well, just EVERYTHING! Farmers, though on the gangway "on the hair dryer bot" for the appearance of decency. Dill noodles are still hanging on the ears on desSMI. But so much the worse, most of the population understands every other time. Farmers use a hairdryer to "loosen up", like to divide the booty from behind a puddle, not to pay debts, and even to soak more of their own citizens. That is not a fig this is not a power and not an army ... And the "criminal community in the People called the BAND" (c) Zheglov. With a bloody gang!
  44. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 10 May 2014 12: 14
    +9
    All right
    And further.
    Having voiced - Yes, it is better to postpone the referendum. - Putin said approximately the following: “They asked me - I did it. The guys will not obey, well, this is their choice, their right. After all, no one has yet taken away the right of free choice from a person of any nationality. Including the right of any person to provide all possible support / help, as Soviet internationalists rendered their Spanish comrades in their time. And Russia, as a state, has nothing to do with it, we simply respect the rights of our citizens, including the right, during our holidays, say, in Crimea, to visit our army friends , sit at a table with fellow soldiers.
    But, if someone (especially with a weapon) in an unshaven snout tries to spoil this feast, then standing up for the owner of the table is not only a right, but also a duty "in a life", "in a kid's way" to stand up and help.
    I think so.
  45. imugn
    imugn 10 May 2014 12: 36
    +5
    The rebels also need ammunition, food, money, medicine, etc. How much can they hold out? Putin said that the parties to the conflict are inside Ukraine, and this statement is a confirmation that Russia is not participating in the conflict (clearly).
    And how tired of the phrase "road map" !!! Let's call a spade a spade: "settlement plan" or at least "settlement paths"
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 10 May 2014 17: 13
      +2
      + I support. I got this verbal masturbation. And in all areas of life.
  46. ando_bor
    ando_bor 10 May 2014 12: 37
    +1
    Russia seems to have mastered the chemical weapons of the color revolutions,
    and now Putin is against the West in judo techniques, using the mass and movement of the enemy,
    successfully applying, I think if the West talks about its ban, Putin will agree.
  47. Irokez
    Irokez 10 May 2014 12: 38
    +6
    Considering that the GDP was from the KGB, and they didn’t keep fools there, over several decades at the top of power he gained even more experience and a lot of brains. To be a fool is to your own detriment.
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 22: 15
      0
      Sylvester has a grandmother from Odessa. What kind of bears will help him ?, white (flies) or red?
  48. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 10 May 2014 13: 22
    +6
    I don’t know how Putin was a judoka, but he is clearly a good politician. And trust in him is growing from year to year. And this is precisely what Russia lacked. There wasn’t enough a politician whom the overwhelming majority of citizens would trust. good
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 10 May 2014 22: 18
      0
      compare with MSH and EBN? progress is evident (even).
  49. mamont5
    mamont5 10 May 2014 13: 29
    +2
    "We defeated Putin! Now we will take Crimea away from him!"

    Forget about the Crimea. He is no longer Ukrainian, but he never was.

    "There he suddenly received fame, power, some money, and most importantly - a weapon."

    And yet - addicted to drugs. And now he needs even more money. And he had not had enough conscience before, but now, and generally is absent.
  50. Avas2006
    Avas2006 10 May 2014 13: 34
    +9
    "a demoralized hungry army with tons of rusty, outdated and plundered weapons that haven't fired for twenty years, and thousands of soldiers who can't do anything."
    I will add: "... and officers." The quality of education in Ukrainian universities (including military ones) has been falling rapidly in recent years. The key word here is "DEMORALIZATION".
    By the way, weapons in Ukraine are not so outdated and rusty compared to their neighbors. The main thing again is the demoralization of personnel.
    Under these conditions, you can’t give trump cards to the oligarchic elite. They are most afraid of the truth. This means that truthful information about Ukraine needs to be disseminated aggressively and continuously.