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Natalia Narochnitskaya: Victory is a stronghold of our national identity

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Natalia Narochnitskaya: Victory is a stronghold of our national identity- Natalia Alekseevna, it is well known that you are the author of many fundamental works, as well as a small, but bright and concentrated book “For what and with whom did we fight?”, Dedicated to the Victory in the Great Patriotic War. What is victory for you?


- Victory in the Great Patriotic War is the greatest achievement and deed of our people. After all, the combined power of almost the whole of Europe was brought down on us. And we did not just win! We once again “redeemed Europe with freedom, honor and peace with our blood”, as Pushkin pointed out to Europe about the victory over Napoleon, we “did not recognize the arrogant will of those before whom you trembled”, we plunged the evil over the kingdoms into the abyss. The West cannot survive the fact that it was precisely the alien Russia that they disliked, which they always portray as a dead end of civilization, saved their civilization and their democracy! For us, the Victory has become a stronghold of our national identity. Therefore, our jealous opponents do not stop periodic campaigns in order to debunk our victory, to raise doubts in ourselves. Vain attempts. Disputes about whether our state was bad or good (and perhaps there are sinless states?) Are irrelevant, because the trouble happened not with the state-political institution, always sinful and imperfect, but with the Fatherland! And it is an eternal and immutable value.

Our two pillars are our great Victory and our Orthodox faith, and our enemies, especially the internal haters of Russia, are straining against them, spewing dirt. My mother was a partisan during the Great Patriotic War, and my grandfather on the line of my mother was a full Georges cavalier, an ensign of the Russian army. Both mother and grandfather fought the same Fatherland, although the states were different, and there were different claims against them. The grandson of Lev Nikolaevich Tolstoy, Nikita Ilyich Tolstoy, told me that during the war, emigration in Belgrade was divided into defeatists and defencists. So, the defencists, who wanted the victory of the Red Army, were in the majority, while the defeatists were only 15 percent. It is known that Sergei Rakhmaninov and Anton Denikin, who lost their homeland because of the revolution, who hated Bolshevism, also wished the victory of the Red Army, because Russia in any guise, in any form remained for them the Motherland. Is this not the height of national identity? So - betray it? Never, ever!

- Today a lot is said about the Russian idea. What is she in your understanding?

- The Russian idea has never been a program intended for proclamation point by point. The Russian idea is a unique and elusive combination of our ideas about the eternal and the earthly, our traditions and, above all, the spiritual and the concept of the ideal. The Russian culture has preserved the ideal of holiness and disintegration as a standard, despite our specific sins and the sharp contradiction recognized by us between this ideal and our life. But the ideal is alive, not renounced. Hence the veneration of Seraphim of Sarov, Xenia of Petersburg ...

We belong to a common Christian culture. But the West, especially its Protestant part, embodied on a blank slate in Puritan America, abandoned the ideals of the Sermon on the Mount, recognizing that the world is sinful and one must somehow rationally live in it, of course, trying to be as good as possible. In American culture, wealth is a sign of God's mercy, they say, God already on earth rewards the righteous (Something does not go well with the Sermon on the Mount), then the Russians have not abandoned their ideals.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 20: 00
    +23
    And we did not just win! We again “redeemed Europe with our blood liberty, honor and peace”, as Pushkin pointed out to Europe about the victory over Napoleon
    Now I have to again ... How much can you already ..!
    1. Erg
      Erg 10 May 2014 20: 49
      +9
      Such a cross ...
      1. armageddon
        armageddon 10 May 2014 21: 37
        +3
        There is no need to blame the mirror if ... Damn the cross! Soon, these PPC mutants will come ... The West will not feed them !!! economy-krant !!! WHO will be the first to tear? That's right -Power !!!
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      3. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 10 May 2014 21: 57
        +7
        Quote: Erg
        Such a cross ...

        Correctly understood by you, Erg, words by Natalia Alekseevna. Seraphim of Sarov, Xenia of Petersburg, Matrona of Moscow - perhaps the most revered Russian Saints! Look - what queues will bow to them, ask for help, or - thank. But their life - oh, not the "American dream"! Not a "gingerbread house" - Russian Idea, but justice! Whatever price you have to pay for it. Another good example of sacrifice for the sake of SUCH RUSSIAN IDEA Natalya Alekseevna Narochnitskaya gave: It is known that Sergei Rachmaninov and Anton Denikin, who lost their homeland due to the revolution, hated Bolshevism, also wished for the victory of the Red Army, because Russia in any guise, in any form, remained their homeland. Is this not the height of national identity? So - betray it? Never and never!
      4. family tree
        family tree 11 May 2014 00: 10
        +2
        Quote: Erg
        Such a cross ...

        What, etit? Let's go, let him die on his own, all this Roman Catholic. They still have to carry crosses who shit, and he sniffs if he doesn’t want to tidy up.
      5. PValery53
        PValery53 11 May 2014 01: 06
        0
        "Azm is, we will repay" .. We will repay the foe !!
        1. PValery53
          PValery53 11 May 2014 11: 54
          0
          More precisely: "I am I will repay"
    2. bulvas
      bulvas 10 May 2014 20: 56
      +14
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Now I have to again ... How much can you already ..!


      Every century is the same. They have a short memory.

      Each time a new leader appears in the West who wants to face off against Russia.

      Will they ever calm down?
      1. anfil
        anfil 10 May 2014 21: 44
        +10
        Will they ever calm down?

        In view of the development of their homosexual ... ugh damn it - pid @ rostii, can degenerate belay
        1. EvgenSuslov
          EvgenSuslov 10 May 2014 22: 06
          +4
          In holy scripture, God sent angels to destroy Sodom and Gamora because their inhabitants fell in sin. Apparently Russia will have to be an angel of retribution and burn this filth.
        2. Nikoha.2010
          Nikoha.2010 11 May 2014 05: 05
          +1
          Quote: anfil
          In view of the development of their homosexual ... ugh damn it - pid @ rostii, can degenerate belay

          Andrey, not that word! This is the face of modern Europe! Eurovision-2014 was won by the bearded Conchita Wurst. Name is appropriate. wassat
      2. EvgenSuslov
        EvgenSuslov 10 May 2014 22: 00
        +6
        I'm afraid not. Every time they think that right now Russia can be defeated. She is weak, and you can take it. They don’t understand that if we look weak, it’s only because we are sitting, resting and gathering strength to get up and give out a cradle.
      3. 225chay
        225chay 10 May 2014 22: 11
        +5
        Quote: bulvas
        Every century is the same. They have a short memory.

        Each time a new leader appears in the West who wants to face off against Russia.

        Will they ever calm down?


        They will never calm down, it's time to understand it already., Such is their vile breed.
        Russia has always defended someone (Anglikosov)
        and the first recognized the USA, but in vain.
        These naughty Saxon freaks should never be helped, even if they are on the verge of extinction
    3. Little Muck
      Little Muck 10 May 2014 21: 10
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Now I have to again ... How much can you already ..!

      Nothing brings a gangster and a scammer to life like a strike ahead of the curve.
      But don’t sacrifice people. Not that we have so many different weapons to put our soldiers in order.
    4. Polevik
      Polevik 10 May 2014 23: 38
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And we did not just win! We again “redeemed Europe with our blood liberty, honor and peace”, as Pushkin pointed out to Europe about the victory over Napoleon
      Now I have to again ... How much can you already ..!


      As much as needs! It’s written to us.
    5. Fucknato
      Fucknato 11 May 2014 02: 38
      +1
      There is only Russia, the rest just exists!
    6. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 11 May 2014 04: 07
      0
      As long as it takes for this fact to be fixed in the genetic memory of the gay people ... hi
  2. mad
    mad 10 May 2014 20: 00
    +39
    I watched the 9 Parade in Sevastopol in the evening and for some reason an analogy was drawn with the famous Parade in November 41go, when its participants went straight to the front. It was dreamed that front-line aviation, right from the parade, walked along the positions of Banderaites who surrounded Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, and the rooks mixed with shit, on the march, the Nazis going to Mariupol ... I understand with my brain that the GDP knows what it is doing, and my heart is bleeding ...
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 20: 31
      +17
      Quote: mad
      I watched the 9th Parade in Sevastopol in the evening and for some reason an analogy was drawn with the famous Parade in November 41st,

      And so it is .. We didn’t have time to rearm again .. And everything fell upon us in bulk (and the Ukrainians are the most offensive and still can’t believe it reading reports on executions and anti-Russian rhetoric) Now there is a war for the souls of people and Russia again at the forefront and bears losses ..
      1. max702
        max702 10 May 2014 22: 11
        +11
        But what are we going to do? will we understand and forgive again? Paying hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives. Really do what? !! I don’t see anything except two options, the first one is letting down on the brakes (we don’t turn off the gas, we don’t kill the fascists, we don’t milk the oligarchs, etc.) we get a hostile state with which we will fight seriously after five ten years, spending a lot of effort and money (precisely for the sake of in the final perspective, everything was started), and the second We demolish everything to hell until the use of tactical nuclear weapons, someone will again say too much .. No guys at the very point! The Ukrainians, the so-called, felt themselves beyond humans, Aryans, a chosen nation (look at their textbooks, behavior and viciousness) communicated with many as one they look from a high point and through their lips hint at our inferiority, backwardness and savagery ... Duc, looking at everything this is a hunt to turn into ashes oh how many territories from the Dnieper to Warsaw, and maybe Berlin, although London has healed in this world, and if you look at the totality of the Angles' crimes against humanity, then here at all .. I don't know I have no pity for " brothers "Ukrainians, got it .. If tomorrow there is a mobilization and it is necessary to carry out sentences, the hand will not flinch ..
        1. Alll1
          Alll1 10 May 2014 22: 27
          +3
          Everything to the point.
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    3. Erg
      Erg 10 May 2014 20: 47
      +8
      You will not believe - the same thoughts haunted
    4. sinukvl
      sinukvl 10 May 2014 22: 11
      +4
      The same thoughts visited me too.
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    6. GRANATE-19
      GRANATE-19 11 May 2014 01: 00
      +4
      Quote: mad

      And here is the PARADE in Zaporozhye:

      GRANDFATHER SIMPLY - HERO !!!
      SUCH FATHER OF A BATTALION IS WORTH !!!
  3. Barboskin
    Barboskin 10 May 2014 20: 02
    +17
    I'm proud of my country. Proud to be Russian. My country and my nation give me many reasons to do this. God bless us.
    1. anfil
      anfil 10 May 2014 22: 26
      +6
      Even if the whole world is against the Russians, I will be against this world.
      1. Labrador
        Labrador 10 May 2014 23: 11
        +3
        Quote: anfil
        Even if the whole world is against the Russians, I will be against this world.

        +1000000
  4. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 10 May 2014 20: 04
    +20
    "We have two pillars - our great Victory and our Orthodox faith, so our enemies, especially the internal haters of Russia, are pushing against them, spewing dirt." An absolute truth in relation to our great and long-suffering Motherland. Thank you, Natalia Alekseevna
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 10 May 2014 20: 21
      +7
      Quote: ODERVIT
      "We have two pillars - our great Victory and our Orthodox faith, so our enemies, especially the internal haters of Russia, are pushing against them, spewing dirt." An absolute truth in relation to our great and long-suffering Motherland. Thank you, Natalia Alekseevna

      Now it’s fashionable to look for a national idea! And here it is right under your nose: WE WILL BE WORTHY MEMORY OF GREAT ANCESTORS !!!!!
      And in my opinion, after Crimea it’s right in the air!
      1. koshh
        koshh 11 May 2014 00: 00
        +1
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        : WE WILL BE WENT TO MEMORY OF THE GREAT ANCESTORS !!!!!


        We will be worthy of our FATHERLAND! All other peoples have a state, a country, but we have a FATHERLAND, the homeland of our ancestors. "Here is the RUSSIAN SPIRIT, here it smells of RUSSIA!"
  5. Giant thought
    Giant thought 10 May 2014 20: 11
    +10
    We Russians are an unidentified universe for Westerners. All our desires, decisions, actions do not fit into the logic of non-Orthodox Christianity. Although we, as the gene pool, arose long before the appearance of Christ, all his commandments were the essence of the existence of our ancestors, so there was no need for him to appear with us, because we lived practically observing the canons identical to those which Christ put forward to the Jews. Therefore, our Russian idea is a divine idea, therefore we are invincible, because doing God's will.
    1. anfil
      anfil 10 May 2014 22: 37
      0
      We Russians are an unidentified universe for Westerners. All our desires, decisions, actions do not fit into the logic of non-Orthodox Christianity

  6. Borisych
    Borisych 10 May 2014 20: 14
    +9
    Russia is being reborn, filled with spirit and holiness. The West needs a weak Russia, looking into her mouth and taking an example from her and depending on them in every possible way. A banal phrase, uttered probably a million times already, that we have a special path ..., but we have a really special one, we have everything differently and correctly says Natalia Alekseevna - "In Russian culture, the ideal of holiness and unmercension as a standard has been preserved." I completely agree with her on this issue.
    Holy Russia is strong in spirit and unity !.
  7. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 10 May 2014 20: 14
    +6
    I really like the position of Narochnitskaya as a historian, politician, and as a civilian.
    Her works, answers, comments ... it is always cleverly accurate and interesting.
  8. razved
    razved 10 May 2014 20: 17
    +9
    Able to say correctly. Clever woman!!!!!
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 10 May 2014 20: 35
      +5
      Yeah, I also like her and Krasheninnikova also, with such women there is something to talk about, and much more many men are watching the bazaar laughing .
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 10 May 2014 21: 53
        +5
        Quote: ZU-23
        Although we, as the gene pool, arose long before the appearance of Christ, all his commandments were the essence of the existence of our ancestors, so there was no need for him to appear with us, because we lived practically observing the canons

        That's right. Jesus kind of told the apostles like don’t go north, people live right there, I came to these places to raise spirituality and show the way to go.

        Quote: ZU-23
        And I also like her and Krasheninnikova yet, with such women there is something to talk about

        I would ascribe Mizulin and Simonyan holds well.

        Our Russian Amazons.

        It seems to me even if you look at the universal expanses, Russia seems to be associated with Christ on earth, and therefore the Higher Forces will always support Russia by strengthening Spirituality in it and through it spread the ideas of higher consciousness and the laws of the universe across the Earth.
        Something like this. Wang also predicted the future for Russia.
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  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 20: 18
    +10
    The Russian idea is a unique and elusive combination of our ideas about the eternal and earthly, our traditions and, above all, the spiritual and the concept of ideal.
    That's why they hate and fear us (first of all, the financial elite of the world) No one in the world has yet been able to "build" us.! Something always works in the subconscious Now we are practically surrounded (military bases, etc.) sanctions and we have a surge of patriotism (finally, someone else's back can really be broken ..))) Oh, Russia, you have no peace (rebellious Russian soul ..)
  10. kocclissi
    kocclissi 10 May 2014 20: 21
    +5
    Mind Russia, do not understand! Only the soul and no wealth, this will not help! Although you can’t forbid living beautifully ...
  11. Borisych
    Borisych 10 May 2014 20: 22
    +6
    Quote: mad
    I watched the 9 Parade in Sevastopol in the evening and for some reason an analogy was drawn with the famous Parade in November 41go, when its participants went straight to the front. It was dreamed that front-line aviation, right from the parade, walked along the positions of Banderaites who surrounded Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, and the rooks mixed with shit, on the march, the Nazis going to Mariupol ... I understand with my brain that the GDP knows what it is doing, and my heart is bleeding ...

    Similar thoughts visited me and I think we are not alone in this. We are waiting for I think that something should happen after the referendum. In the end, it was impossible to overshadow the celebration of victory.
    1. ASSARU
      ASSARU 10 May 2014 23: 07
      +2
      That's for sure. On T34. Drive around Kiev. So as not to forget who they are and where
  12. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 10 May 2014 20: 22
    +4
    This is all for the illiterate Ukrainians! Russian man and so everything is clear!
  13. Yellow white
    Yellow white 10 May 2014 20: 33
    +6
    Guys, the posts above, you all said, there is nothing to add in general, thank you!
    Article plus smile
  14. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 10 May 2014 20: 39
    +5
    We gave Europe peace and life! But she didn’t appreciate it and forgot it! How tired she is that they are dancing to the tune of the Americans, how much I want this damn NATO to fall into pieces, and never again reborn ...
    1. Erg
      Erg 10 May 2014 20: 56
      +3
      What is the catch - Europe, which Hitler set fire to all (except Switzerland, where the money of his American masters lay), again silently looks at fascism. The Poles idolize the Germans and hate us. Ukraine has lost millions of lives in the Second World War and the mustache is equally reaching to the west. What the thing is coming out, adnaka
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 21: 20
        +4
        Quote: Erg
        What is the catch - Europe, which Hitler set fire to all (except Switzerland, where the money of his American masters lay), again silently looks at fascism. The Poles idolize the Germans and hate us. Ukraine has lost millions of lives in the Second World War and the mustache is equally reaching to the west. What the thing is coming out, adnaka

        Everyone wants to get into the "golden billion". Such a society of consumers is the elite of the world .. (eat chew watch comedy serials and don't think about anything important buy buy buy) .. Financial dollar pyramid (Jewish) And we in Russia do not agree.! .. .We have spread rot on our oligarchs and will spread rot and break any systems .. Don't feed us with honey, just hoist your flag of victory in the next capital ..! Now again we are angry, humiliated, we are silent .. for now ... These are the things we have in Russia eh ekarny babay your mother's leg ..))) drinks
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      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 10 May 2014 22: 09
        +6
        Quote: Erg
        The Poles idolize the Germans and hate us.

        Psheki pray on mattresses. The Germans are tolerated - those who are richer, the money through the EU is transferred for the improvement "from one to one."
        And Russia, to them, the heirs of Y. Pilsudsky, stood up across her throat. The day does not pass that did not spit in our direction.
        1. ASSARU
          ASSARU 10 May 2014 23: 00
          +1
          Well, she’s a Polish girl, judging by her parents and surnames. And she’ll break for Russia.
      4. Penzyac
        Penzyac 10 May 2014 22: 47
        +4
        Quote: Erg
        ... The Poles idolize the Germans and hate us. ...

        Here you are wrong, the Poles don’t like Germans either, they don’t like anyone at all. They consider themselves the most true Christians, and the rest as heretics. In addition, since the fall and partition of the "Rzecz Pospolita", the Poles have suffered from a complex of incompleteness and have dreamed of recreating "Greater Poland" "from Moz to Moz." Russia (and the Germans) in the past showed the Poles where their true place is, for this they hate us (and the Germans) (insult gnaws), but in fact - it was not figs to betray the faith of their ancestors, succumbing to the "persuasion" of the Jesuits, now they would perhaps a full-fledged part of Holy Russia, the Russian world.
        Everything also applies to Galicians. Only in even more neglected, because, unlike the Poles, after the union they never again had even reasons for national pride. Although, they could, for example, be proud of the heroes of the "Russian revival" of the early twentieth century, but here again there are Russian heroes, not Uniates.
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 20: 41
    +6
    To walk so to walk .. Shoot so to shoot .. And the ducks are already flying high I will help them with my hand ..
    That's something like this is going on in the soul Rosenbaum just noticed!
  16. boris117
    boris117 10 May 2014 20: 45
    +5
    "The ideal of holiness and unmercension has been preserved in Russian culture" ... Natalya Alekseevna agrees with you. And we must do everything to preserve this ideal.
  17. Lelek
    Lelek 10 May 2014 20: 46
    +9
    Yes, something not very God's commandments are combined with the deeds of the defrocked who seized the presidency in the "Nezalezhnaya" bully
  18. konvalval
    konvalval 10 May 2014 20: 59
    +4
    Natalya Alekseevna clever. A competent historian. Always illuminates events truthfully. Well done.
  19. understudy
    understudy 10 May 2014 21: 00
    +4
    Without reading ... the greatest Woman! Clever and ... other. It is a pity that precisely such politicians do not determine the vector of our ... well. Processions. love
  20. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 10 May 2014 21: 03
    +9
    The celebration of Victory in the Great Patriotic War on May 9 (or vice versa - ignoring, as well as attempts to substitute symbols) is a "litmus test" of the state of society, respect for the memory of those killed in battles, tortured in the occupation, in concentration camps.
  21. individual
    individual 10 May 2014 21: 06
    +7
    There is such a pride - "west"!
    For some reason, this dark side of the world always goes astray against Russia.
    Although under the leadership of Napoleon, even under Hitler, now the whole west is united and driven into a pack of color with a tall, Obamchik.
    In the east, everything is always exactly the same, except for those shot by atomic weapons and becoming for us the west of the samurai.
    It is time for Russia to turn its eyes east, to where the dawn begins and where the future of Russia is possible.
    And let Europe enjoy its gay and homosexual freedom-culture.
  22. gammipapa
    gammipapa 10 May 2014 21: 18
    +13
    Now went fishing.
    I reel off fishing rods, it has already gotten dark, a scourged look of a couple is suitable. They look like they’re 50 years old. They say they’ll give a ride to the neighboring village, otherwise it’s our birthday and we still celebrate the victory. Friends still say visit. Come on, sit down, anyway along the way.
    So this is what struck people to say the least Bososky barefoot, everything is worn on itself, but patriotism is just rushing. First they talked about the victory, then how good it is that we live in our beloved Russia, then about Ukraine, which is a pity for their Ukrainians.
    In short, our people cannot conquer the love of the homeland, they cannot buy, they cannot drink.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 21: 40
      +6
      Quote: gammipapa
      So this is what struck people to say the least Bososky barefoot, everything is worn on itself, but patriotism is just rushing. First they talked about the victory, then how good it is that we live in our beloved Russia, then about Ukraine, which is a pity for their Ukrainians.
      In short, our people cannot conquer the love of the homeland, they cannot buy, they cannot drink.

      So those who just silently receive Kalash and go in the front ranks for their homeland and will be able to fight skillfully (without a bang, etc.) .. (read somewhere analytics reasoning) People drink (no words) our soul hurts us ... you need a real thing to really hooked (boring to live ..)
    2. nalim
      nalim 11 May 2014 04: 28
      0
      the fisherman himself ... already tired of torturing this topic
  23. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 10 May 2014 21: 27
    +6
    Oh, how true everything is written, there are no unnecessary words. And some just want to repeat. Thanks to Natalia for the correct and correct words. Fatherland is eternal. And today I heard the opinion of Alexander Gelievich Dugin on the referendum in the Donbass. He said this referendum is being held for you and me so that Russia would hear that they are in danger and save.
    I bow to the courage and resilience of the inhabitants of Slavyansk, Mariupol and the whole of Donbass - the strength of the people in truth. I am sure that the Russians will support the choice of residents in the referendum.
  24. Bagor Danilov
    Bagor Danilov 10 May 2014 21: 38
    +6
    "The attack of envious enemies will force Russia to develop its strength and understand its position, which will already constantly arouse envy and intrigues. This will require tremendous work, feat, selflessness; but what to do when the hand of an incomprehensible Fate brings them to them! The only means to correct the fallen forces, moral and spiritual - a position that requires labor, leading to selflessness. ... Enemies will awaken, shake Russia, produce in it an involuntary development of strength, but they will not humiliate Russia: they will elevate it, this is its predestination. "
    Saint Ignatius of Stavropol (Bryanchaninov)
    May 14, 1863, letter to the Viceroy of the Caucasus
  25. blackberry
    blackberry 10 May 2014 21: 39
    -9
    I do not know anything about this woman, for the first time I hear her name, but, in my opinion, she is fundamentally mistaken, and her mistake is dangerous in her perspective. The victory of the USSR could not be based on any national idea, as well as on any religiosity, even in the smallest degree. Internationalism was the basis for the fact that people in inhuman suffering fought for cities and villages in which they had never lived. I never thought that in 20 years I would discover such a quality of the phrase "Soviet man" as respect for a person without reference to nationality and other attributes of origin. That is, it was implied then, but in recent months, and especially weeks, this frenzied obsession with national characteristics or religion is just some kind of apocalypse. Not Ukrainian, I will note, but each country in the future. Fascism begins with the exaltation of one origin over another.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 10 May 2014 22: 11
      +8
      Quote: blackberry
      The victory of the USSR could not be based on any national idea, nor on any religiosity, even to the smallest extent.

      Learn the materiel. To start...
    2. Irokez
      Irokez 10 May 2014 22: 30
      +4
      Quote: blackberry
      this frantic obsession with national signs or religion is just some kind of apocalypse.

      You do not read in vain about Patriotism and Nationalism, and especially the ideas of different peoples and countries.
      In fact, nationalism in itself is not bad, and patriotism is so good.
      Nationalism has become, as it were, a negative word in our time, but it is needed within national boundaries. This Fascist-nationalism spoiled and omitted this word.
      At present, if you look at Europe, what they want to do with the peoples of this Europe. Correctly abolish the nationalities and identities of different countries and peoples and create one European, fitting it to the necessary controlled standard. It's like mixing all the colors of the rainbow into one and you get a gray tasteless color. But the fact is that there are no identical peoples in mentality, customs and characters, and each nationality brings to life something of its own, both good and bad, but you need to work on improving for the better and you just need to live together developing the best qualities.
      In the last 20 years, Russians have simply been forbidden to have their own idea and development direction spelling out chauvinism and nationalism to us, but at the same time, literally all countries (especially European) have more naziolizim and chauvinism several times than we, but they can be seen, but we can’t we are a more calm and peaceful nationality including not only pure Russians, but also many other nationalities of the USSR.
      The most important thing is not to exalt your own nationality above others in development over others (Hitler and the Aryans overdid it here). Here the difference is only in the intellect, education and mentality of people with customs and worldview.
      And today, Russia shows who it is and what its place in the world is, and this is not chauvinism, but a statement about itself and its idea.
      Ignorance is one of the sins of mankind. Knowledge - moving forward to the knowledge of the universe.
    3. wei
      wei 10 May 2014 23: 08
      +2
      youtube to help you
      little but there is something to look
      and if you are interested in something, you can read a book
      man Natalia Alekseevna is very competent and highly intelligent
      1. wei
        wei 12 May 2014 19: 57
        0

        about the USA and China
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 May 2014 23: 53
      +2
      Quote: blackberry
      I don’t know anything about this woman, for the first time I hear her name

      This is bad, you need to know such people - there are not so many of them.
      in my opinion, she is fundamentally mistaken, and her mistake is dangerous in its perspective. The victory of the USSR could not be based on any national idea, nor on any religiosity, even to the smallest extent. Internationalism was the basis for the fact that people in inhuman suffering fought for cities and villages in which they never lived.

      Internationalism is part of the Russian national idea from time immemorial.
      I never thought that in 20 years I would discover such a quality of the phrase "Soviet man" as respect for a person without reference to nationality and other attributes of origin. That is, it was implied then, but in recent months, and especially weeks, this frenzied obsession with national characteristics or religion is just some kind of apocalypse. Not Ukrainian, I will note, but each country in the future.

      Having come to power and consolidated in it, being religious atheists, internationalist communists voluntarily or not freely accepted the indigenous national, but essentially universal, values ​​of the Russian people, or rather, Russian civilization. Basically, following these values, the Soviet Communists carried them to other peoples, as a result of which such a phenomenon as the Soviet people was formed. In fact, the Soviet idea was based on Christian and even pre-Christian universal or Russian values ​​enshrined in the moral code of the builder of communism, only without faith in the afterlife and, accordingly, in reward or punishment after death and some other theological beliefs.
      Fascism begins with the exaltation of one origin over another.

      Here you are absolutely right, along with Narochnitskaya.
      But in the Russian idea there is no exaltation of one people over others: the mission of the Russian, including the Soviet people, is the mission of the keeper of universal values ​​responsible to all of humanity, in contrast to the Jews falsely understood by their God-chosenness and self-exalted unreasonable exclusivity of the Westerners, especially Americans.
    5. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 11 May 2014 05: 48
      0
      Quote: blackberry
      I don’t know anything about this woman, for the first time I hear her name, but, in my opinion, she is fundamentally mistaken,

      Dear, knowing nothing is not worth blaming! Take an interest in the object of your attention / inattention first, then take action.
  26. upasika1918
    upasika1918 10 May 2014 21: 43
    +12
    Madame Narochnitskaya is entitled to all 100. That they will never forgive us ....
  27. Edumog
    Edumog 10 May 2014 21: 43
    +5
    The Russian idea is the construction of the "Kingdom of God" here on earth !!!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 11 May 2014 00: 04
      +1
      Quote: Edumog
      The Russian idea is the construction of the "Kingdom of God" here on earth !!!

      It is well said that it is the "kingdom of God" for all, and not the Westernizing or Islamist idea of ​​paradise for the elite. And not only on earth, but also, in the future, on other inhabited or, possibly, already inhabited (if perceived) extraterrestrial worlds.
  28. Alll1
    Alll1 10 May 2014 21: 47
    +8
    Romanians have done it!
    Romanian Foreign Ministry demanded explanations from Moscow regarding Rogozin's statements about the flight on TU-160

    The Romanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs demanded clarifications from the Russian Foreign Ministry regarding the statements of the Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Transnistria, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin to Bucharest.

    A statement published on Saturday on the website of the Romanian Foreign Ministry said Bucharest was serious about Rogozin’s remarks that next time he would fly on a TU-160 bomber, Interfax reported.

    “The Romanian Foreign Ministry regards this threat as very serious, especially in the current regional context. We ask the Russian Foreign Ministry to publicly clarify whether Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin’s statements reflect the official position of the Russian government with regard to Romania as a member state of the EU and NATO, ”the report says.

    As reported, today Romania and Ukraine have banned access to their airspace to the aircraft, on which the Russian delegation, headed by Dmitry Rogozin, should return to Moscow. In this regard, the Deputy Prime Minister wrote on his microblog on Twitter: “Romania, at the request of the United States, closed my airspace. Ukraine again does not miss. The next time I fly on a TU-160. "

    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/31383#ixzz31Kc6Imlu
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 22: 08
      +8
      Quote: Alll1
      The Foreign Ministry speaks about Bucharest’s serious attitude to Rogozin’s statements that next time he will fly on a Tu-160 bomber,

      laughing laughing laughing Yes easily ...! Putin won everything and swam ..)) We are so ..! bully
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    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 10 May 2014 22: 13
      +10
      Quote: Alll1
      Romanians have done it!
      Romanian Foreign Ministry demanded explanations from Moscow regarding Rogozin's statements about the flight on TU-160

      It's not right guys ...
      Romanians gathered in Tiraspol to extend GDP to receive Tu-160. laughing
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 22: 39
        +2
        Romanians are there gypsies, they smell that we will come soon and ... we’ll hang them ... In Stalingrad they crushed them well .. (they thought they would rob .. and that’s all))) The Tu-160 is too much honor for them ... The maize on shaving flight will disperse the army ..))) bully (and what except laughter if you hang a barrel ... heh heh
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  29. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 10 May 2014 21: 48
    +5
    I invite everyone who is not indifferent to the fate of the South-East of Ukraine to listen to

    10.05.2014/18/00 - XNUMX:XNUMX Clip "Holy Russia" (brothers Slavs). This is a hymn to our brotherhood.
    And I want the young people to hear, and the adults finally realized that today we are responsible for the blood in Ukraine and we are responsible to our great-grandfathers and grandfathers that this is generally allowed. Today, the courageous southeast alone confronts American fascism. My bow to the mothers who raised worthy sons, who defied the deadly challenge to the Bandera Maidan
    1. Alll1
      Alll1 10 May 2014 21: 56
      +4
      My younger one has almost learned the words, singing along! Now there are a lot of good videos, I turn on the background at home, the children like it. I don’t download it now.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 22: 27
        +1
        Quote: Alll1
        My younger one has almost learned the words, singing along! Now there are a lot of good videos, I turn on the background at home, the children like it. I don’t download it now.

        At this age, children absorb everything like sponges and remember for the rest of their lives .. Well done! My youngest blurted out, "Dad is fighting with Bandera's people .. don't bother mom. laughing I did not teach him to see something I heard ..)))
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 10 May 2014 23: 29
      +3
      Read the new generation of blackberries. Id ... the girl is phenomenal. But she is also a woman. I tried to play men's games.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 23: 46
        +1
        Well, I read and explained to her darling that she would not climb and not get angry ..
        1. Reasonable, 2,3
          Reasonable, 2,3 11 May 2014 00: 17
          +1
          Explaining to an idiot that he is ... is useless.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 11 May 2014 00: 11
      0
      Quote: Tanya-umunechka
      ... today we are responsible for the blood in Ukraine and we are responsible to our great-grandfathers and grandfathers that this is generally allowed ...

      I would add that we are responsible for this in the first place to posterity.
    4. family tree
      family tree 11 May 2014 00: 41
      +1
      Quote: Tanya-umunechka
      that we are responsible today for blood in Ukraine

      You know, Tanechka, the war started there, and this, damn it, for a long time. And the worst thing is that the Germans united. Now I would enter the NNA, and there would be silence, as in Czechoslovakia, at one time.
      The Bundeswehr, compared to the NNA, well, who saw, in the know.
  30. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 21: 56
    +10
    Here Milosevic warned us from the last century .. And we, as always, "Until the thunder breaks out .." But on the other hand, "We slowly harness but drive quickly .. to the red light .." wassat
    1. ASSARU
      ASSARU 10 May 2014 22: 53
      +2
      The Russians spoke to Milosevic. These are such idiotic rules. Give me back today, get it tomorrow.
      he did not obey. Until the last butted one against all.
  31. armageddon
    armageddon 10 May 2014 22: 04
    +3
    Quote: Erg
    Such a cross ...

    NOT a cross! A TORCH THEM AND TORCH WE WILL !!!
  32. blackberry
    blackberry 10 May 2014 22: 10
    -1
    Quote: Irokez
    I would ascribe Mizulin

    Ah, there are some guidelines in this thread. Then - yes, I was obviously mistaken by the door.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 22: 44
      0
      Quote: blackberry
      Quote: Irokez
      I would ascribe Mizulin

      Ah, there are some guidelines in this thread. Then - yes, I was obviously mistaken by the door.

      My dear mistaken ... Do not anger us for God's sake ..!
    2. Sterlya
      Sterlya 11 May 2014 03: 56
      0
      Quote: blackberry
      Quote: Irokez
      I would ascribe Mizulin

      Ah, there are some guidelines in this thread. Then - yes, I was obviously mistaken by the door.

      It was mistaken for sure. But if you entered the wrong door, first at least look around before you say something wink
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 11 May 2014 06: 03
      0
      Quote: blackberry
      I’m obviously mistaken by the door

      Begin to grow wise, commendable!
  33. Sergg
    Sergg 10 May 2014 22: 13
    +2
    Natalya Narochnitskaya smart woman. I appreciate her speeches and articles.

    The Russian people are always at the forefront of a bloody war of good and evil. We are patient, but we endure, endure, and then how ... we shy away from the whole go-ahead. We do not accept evil, therefore, holiness and service to the Fatherland are at our highest honor.
  34. Const
    Const 10 May 2014 22: 17
    +3
    7522 years ago there was already the signing of peace in a star temple. The question is why the Slavs in antiquity started the reckoning from this date. Who were our enemies? Are we now figuring out relationships with their descendants?
  35. Arkan
    Arkan 10 May 2014 22: 29
    +2
    The West cannot survive the fact that it was precisely the alien Russia that they disliked, which they always portray as a dead end of civilization, saved their civilization and their democracy!


    "Grateful" Europe has not forgotten this! Maybe you shouldn't step on the same rake? Let them save themselves!
  36. onizhe
    onizhe 10 May 2014 22: 36
    +1
    In fact, the confrontation between Russia and the West began long before the ideological wars of the 20th century. Initially, Orthodoxy was the subject of controversy. Everything else is a sequel.
  37. v.karewik
    v.karewik 10 May 2014 22: 40
    +1
    That's right. Only Russian-Russians in unity and understanding that no one will help us in any case will win. [
  38. Sanglier
    Sanglier 10 May 2014 22: 41
    +2
    I explain in advance and apologize: I am writing from my husband’s account. All on the same idea.

    In the morning, grandfather put on orders,
    He took my hand on Victory Day -
    Like a string, the back was straightened.
    And I walked with a dazzling grandfather.
    He was not a member of the party,
    As in the service they did not inspire him.
    He believed in the brotherhood of the united Slavs -
    Only the lazy in the back did not laugh.
    Although he remembered - childhood on fire,
    In black - mother, charred cherries.
    But in a great and terrible war
    It has become distant and superfluous.
    He stung a fascist reptile
    And stubbornly pressed - did not get up.
    I got to Berlin as I dreamed:
    "God helped - the specials overslept"
    And kept his secret all his life,
    Even the brothers did not know by platoon-
    He is a nobleman by birth
    From an old Polish family.
  39. ASSARU
    ASSARU 10 May 2014 22: 47
    +2
    Judging by the name of the Polish girl.
    And for Russia it’s right. Pushkin damn. Thank you so much.
  40. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 22: 58
    +1
    Quote: Sanglier
    And kept his secret all his life,
    Even the brothers did not know by platoon-
    He is a nobleman by birth
    From an old Polish family.

    There were many of them .. And it wasn’t customary to stick out those heavy years (as they again like now ..) The power and technological breakthrough of the USSR were made not by nobles and highly educated (elite, so to speak) but ordinary people .. (We proved it to the world then ..) And the ridge of the German generals (blue blood to all military backgrounds of the tenth generation) was broken by the sons of shoemakers ..!
  41. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 May 2014 23: 11
    0
    Maybe it was already ...
    The guys did the right thing, you can’t forget such things (advertising, honestly, I’m sick of it)))
    http://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=205454115&id=165179665&hash=9048e85d955fb903&sd&
    quot
  42. Mih
    Mih 10 May 2014 23: 41
    0
    So far, we are not quite the older generation, we will remember this, then the country will live.
  43. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 May 2014 23: 49
    +1
    Quote: Mih
    So far, we are not quite the older generation, we will remember this, then the country will live.

    Unscramble ..
  44. smith7
    smith7 11 May 2014 00: 08
    +2
    On the Russian path, only treason can prevent us. It has been more than once and will be again. Faith protects us. In banderlog, unbelief was sown, or faith was replaced. Khan ... Stop being human. They need to go through difficult trials in order to believe in God again. Maybe by hanging or shooting, or even through something less humane. Something like in Odessa, people were burning ... But they burned for Vera, they suffered martyrdom. But for these banderlogs and their puppeteers, purification in the fire should be accepted so that people die at least ... I’m not sure that they did this filth without knowing what they were doing.
  45. dik-fort
    dik-fort 11 May 2014 00: 18
    +3
    Yesterday, my mother recalled relatives who died during the Second World War, almost all the men died, there is where the father and son, we from the peasants, were taken into the infantry, and there you yourself know the losses. And my mother’s grandfather fought back in World War I, a shell hit the dugout, 18 people died, and his grandfather survived, lived 98 years. And none of ours betrayed Russia, only few of us remained.
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    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 00: 33
      0
      Quote: dik-fort
      Yesterday, my mother recalled relatives who died during the Second World War, almost all the men died, there is where the father and son, we from the peasants, were taken into the infantry, and there you yourself know the losses. And my mother’s grandfather fought back in World War I, a shell hit the dugout, 18 people died, and his grandfather survived, lived 98 years. And none of ours betrayed Russia, only few of us remained.

      Honor and Respect to your Family ..! I bow .. hi
  46. understudy
    understudy 11 May 2014 00: 19
    +1
    The smartest woman. But she does not want to be president. The mind? wink
  47. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 00: 28
    0
    Quote: Understudy
    The smartest woman. But she does not want to be president. The mind? wink

    They do not take such presidents ...))) Now, if in the news .. bully
  48. Palych9999
    Palych9999 11 May 2014 00: 42
    +1
    It reminds us of the Sermon on the Mount ...
    It is a pity that among the "potential listeners" there is no our snickering and corrupt "top", stupid and greedy, able to warm their hands not only on our successes, but also on our troubles ...
  49. sazhka4
    sazhka4 11 May 2014 00: 56
    +2
    It’s strange to discuss what you don’t understand. Let's say This World I see differently. (It was simple and in another). You see him to others. To argue about what you don’t know (and what to compare with?) Is just silly .. Everyone has their own world. There is no other. Although, how to look ..
    1. family tree
      family tree 11 May 2014 01: 19
      +2
      Quote: sazhka4
      It’s strange to discuss what you don’t understand. Let's say This World I see differently. (It was simple and in another). IN

      Sanya, do not flood, do not
  50. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 01: 17
    0
    Quote: sazhka4
    It’s strange to discuss what you don’t understand. Let's say This World I see differently. (It was simple and in another). You see him to others. To argue about what you don’t know (and what to compare with?) Is just silly .. Everyone has their own world. There is no other. Although, how to look ..

    Very cleverly expressed ..))) laughing plus you ..
    1. family tree
      family tree 11 May 2014 01: 33
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Very cleverly expressed ..))) laughing plus you ..

      Vitya, damn it, I would very much like to see you in the personnel of my engineering platoon, and according to the charter, damn it, cleanly.