When can I bomb? Ukraine for debts

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When can I bomb? Ukraine for debts


On the eve of May Day, we sat mentally with Swedish customers. Naturally, they did not bypass the “new member of the European Union” - Ukraine. And of course, the hot Scandinavian guys did not fail to go on duty on the "bad guy" Putin, who "does not want to leave Yukrein alone .."

Not wanting to start a useless argument about who does not want to leave anyone alone, I decided to stop at the rear:

“Why didn’t you want to leave your debtors alone and ready to bury them alive?” Let's agree: you forgive debts to your debtors, and I call the Kremlin directly (forgive, Lord, for a bluff) and agree to forgive Russian debtors. Are you ready? Let's go!

And with a sweeping gesture he took a blank sheet of paper from his briefcase.

Tolerant Democrats shied away from the leaf A4, like the devil from incense.

- What is the debt? What does it have to do with debt? - they screamed in chorus, - it is clear to everyone that this is simple, faking is shit, imperial ambitions! Desire to select sovereign territories!

“That's right,” I did not give up, “what were we just talking about?” If the debtor cannot pay, we will have to describe and take away his property, everything that we reach ... We will reach the land - we will take the land. We reach the refrigerator - we will select the refrigerator. Themselves just that I so confidently talked about it. And they thought it was all right. So maybe wrong? Will not we take away?

From my Scandinavian interlocutors it seemed as if they let the air out ...

- And he owes a lot to him? - they asked very dimly?

- No, not much. 3 is a yard of money for gas, another 3 yard is the last loan, another 11 is current sanctions, and maybe there is something, I don’t remember ...

“No, well, this is unfair,” the Scandinavians reasonably reasoned, “debts must be repaid.”

- In-oh-oh-about, already warmer ... And if the debtor does not want to give anything, but still makes a goat face to the lender?

- Well, yes, undoubtedly, for such a decent company face beat ...

- Even warmer. And now the question is - suppose you ... no, wrong, suppose my Latvia took a 3 yard ... no, not you, the Yankees, and then told the US to kiss my ass. What will the Yankees do?

“Let them fuck the fuckin ',” the chief of the delegation said without a doubt, “they won't leave a stone unturned so that others will be discouraged ...”

- Well, then Americans can, and Putin can not? Is this fair?

From the enlightened Swedish faces, I realized that they had everything in their heads. The incomprehensible phrases of the Russian media about the salvation of Russian Ukrainians and the family terms “brother, sister, mother-in-law” and so on that are untranslatable into any Western language are gone. Gone is the frightening cause of what is happening in the version of the Western media about the mental illness of the Russian president. Everything fell into place. Cool guy Putin, it turns out, just wets fucking bad debtors, and the more they are bad, the stronger they will be fucking. Everything is logical, everything is fair ...

- Serge, why does the Russian foreign minister say nothing about this? - Curious Viking put me in a dead end at the end of the conversation.

That was a stab in the back. And really, why? Why not use this killer argument for Westerners? Everything is so simple. Must - pay. Do not pay - be patient and see how your property is described, calling for it not the price that suits you, but that which suits the lender.

Are there any intercessors? No problem! Pay and fly! Do not want? No money - no honey! Come in when the money comes, but for now sit there quietly on the sidelines, while we deal with the debtor here ... Iron, soldering iron, started ...

Hear, who has Lavrov's mobile phone, throw off in a personal, it is very necessary ...
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  1. +133
    6 May 2014 07: 14
    So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)
    1. +32
      6 May 2014 07: 35
      Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.
      1. +72
        6 May 2014 08: 27
        Quote: Sanya
        Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.

        The author is right, if you transfer the issue financially, then up to 90% of law-abiding Europeans become clear. But Lavrov and Churkin do not use this argument because finance is not its competence.
        1. +44
          6 May 2014 08: 45
          I think that the question is not even in competence, what’s good for us is death for a German! It is possible that it never occurred to them to speak the language of money! Although it seems like experienced diplomats should know how to catch the Europeans!
          1. +49
            6 May 2014 10: 41
            The author has a huge respect.
            1. +13
              6 May 2014 18: 55
              Yes, I agree! The article is only PLUS!
          2. +24
            6 May 2014 12: 36
            Quote: cat
            It is possible that it never occurred to them to speak the language of money! Although it seems like experienced diplomats should know how to catch the Europeans!

            Well, our brilliant diplomats need not be denied reason! It will not work to transfer money to the plane, otherwise the issue will be filled with endless restructuring and re-lending with offsets. And the account to Ukraine is not entirely monetary, not even completely monetary, especially if you do not forget Odessa.
            A good article. In the genre of humor satire. Plus set
            1. Ujin61
              +7
              7 May 2014 09: 04
              Strongly disagree, the question is only in money. Geyropa supports the junta in trying to put Donbass on its knees just because of coal. Which they want to transfer their thermal power plants to. Ecology and democracy by drum. Coal cheaper than junta gas will drive it even at a loss .
            2. +3
              7 May 2014 16: 17
              I agree in many respects, however, the tranche received from the IMF did not affect the payment of Russian gas. Apparently, the storage facilities will not be filled. And the EU dill will be forced to pay directly, directly. Having issued it as one of the tranches. The required injection volume takes time. That's by this date and gas supply will be tied. The remains of dill are pumped out free of charge in the summer. then winter will come.
          3. +40
            6 May 2014 16: 05
            Are there any defenders? No problem! Pay and fly! Do not want? No money - no honey!


        2. +27
          6 May 2014 09: 53
          Right! Because this is the competence, as they say, of the mazafak, of Mr. Medvedev ... That's the answer, why not a word about it ... Well, really, what does Lavrov have to do with it? Maybe Shoigu will talk about debts? Well, if only as a bailiff))
          1. +33
            6 May 2014 13: 06
            About the bailiff is good.

            In general, if "purely concrete", what is happening in Ukraine exactly corresponds to the scenario of a "raider takeover": they gathered a crowd, militants and seized the plant management, kicked out the former director, held "their own" meeting, pounded disgruntled workers or started to be fired. , loaded up with loans, sawed up the loot and the remaining property, and then merged. That's it, the end. The curtain. For the level of consciousness of Beni or Poroshenko, this is an absolutely adequate scheme.
        3. acute
          +35
          6 May 2014 10: 25
          Simple as that. This was not the case in Yugoslavia, but the country was torn apart as they wanted, like other countries. The West does as it sees fit, they do not need any arguments that are financial, that interethnic
        4. +42
          6 May 2014 11: 14
          Quote: Canep
          Finance is not his competence.

          Didn’t it occur to you that this has been thought out for a long time? And no option? Perhaps you think that for the states a dozen or two billion is a lot of money? If you transfer to money, then the Americans can safely throw the dice of Russia in the form of several lards, but then they are the kings of Ukraine, and we will immediately be thrust into meddling. Or do you, respecting Lavrov and Churkin, consider them idiots who failed to figure out such options? mille pardons
          1. +11
            6 May 2014 17: 57
            Quote: SPLV
            If you transfer to money, then the Americans can safely throw the dice of Russia in the form of several lards, but then they are the kings of Ukraine, and we will immediately be thrust into meddling. Or do you, respecting Lavrov and Churkin, consider them idiots who failed to figure out such options? mille pardons
            And that made me think. And let Russia pay $ 40 billion for gas and take the 4 western regions of Ukraine to themselves. Or is it for one area? winked If it gets in the way of a transit pipe, then the EU will immediately emerge here - it will want to acquire so that the United States does not press due to blackmail. AND? And there will be bargaining - who is more? lol Let them buy laughing An increase in Russia, the western regions get their longed for Europe and everyone is happy.
            1. +1
              7 May 2014 09: 55
              Yeah, the printing press has what it takes.
          2. +2
            6 May 2014 21: 45
            Yes, God forbid, so think about them) Well they damn! I am sure that they know everything and control almost everything. God help them!
          3. +7
            6 May 2014 22: 47
            Americans spend about $ 1,8 billion a day on the maintenance of their local government. At the same time, the revenues of the state budget of Ukraine for 2014 are planned at the level of 403,04 billion hryvnia (now they give 1 hryvnia for% 13), expenses - in the amount of 443,6 billion hryvnia. What to talk about, if in this situation they owe the Russian Federation half of the not yet received income (somewhere above it was said about $ 17 billion, which, according to them, is UAH 221 (http://bizresurs.com.ua/000/000 /000_2013.html) And here, indeed, return the grandma’s business, and then we’ll talk. And we don’t have to lie about the fact that politics governs the world, that independent and independent defend democracy and defend their sovereignty. There are only two levers of control in the world - money and the media, and the third is not given. And Ukraine is a clear example of their most disgusting way of using, "... in dexterous and hard-working hands."
        5. +12
          6 May 2014 13: 03
          Quote: Canep
          if you transfer the issue to the financial plane

          Tax Head!
          A bureaucratic morel should speak and in a quiet voice ask the EU and the USA to help Russia get impudently concealed taxes from the new authorities, remember Al Capone and others flew for such pranks ... then even quieter to say that if there is no help, then he is sad, but only Shoigu was inspired by his concern and even promised that if Ukraine didn’t have enough money, he would ask Europe
          1. +9
            6 May 2014 17: 49
            Quote: Cherdak
            Tax Head!

            This is very correct! And then we have here the IMF has already fussed!

            IMF will now control the tax service and customs of Ukraine


            The tax and customs services of Ukraine must submit data on received income, as well as deferred payments and imposed fines to the International Monetary Fund no later than the 25th day of each month, according to a special IMF report on Ukraine.

            “The State Tax Service and the State Customs Service must submit data on income received, as well as deferred payments and fines, no later than the 25th day of each month. In addition, the State Tax Service must submit quarterly reports on tax incentives provided indicating the amount, duration of the exemption, the direct recipient of the exemption, as well as the estimated calculation of budget losses due to preferential taxation, ”the report says.

            In addition, monthly reports are expected to be reports of the tax service on the collection and reimbursement of value added tax, indicating not only payments, but also applications from enterprises, as well as indicating the reasons for the absence or denial of tax reimbursement, if any will take place.

            “We also expect to provide monthly reports on the overall filling of the revenue side of the state budget in terms of tax revenues and monthly reports on the implementation of local budgets,” the IMF said.

            Recall, May 1, the IMF decided to provide Ukraine with $ 17 billion in two years.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-144891.html
            1. +10
              6 May 2014 19: 05
              IMF will now control the tax service and customs of Ukraine
              It's finished! Here it is - the long-awaited "freedom". Now you will not get lost, as with Russia. laughing
            2. +3
              6 May 2014 21: 38
              Quote: Egoza
              This is very correct!

              Nezalezhnaya Ukraine abo Dupa z ruchkoї - a brief summary from the IMF with errors
              1. Korablev
                +2
                7 May 2014 15: 54
                Not "abo Dupa with a handle", but like an ass with a handle, and is no longer indispensable.
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            4. +3
              7 May 2014 19: 02
              Yeah! You might think the Navy just woke up. He was always there, and he profited well from Russian energy supplies to Ukraine and not only to it. laughing
        6. +4
          6 May 2014 13: 15
          quote
          Quote: Canep
          Quote: Sanya
          Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.

          The author is right, if you transfer the issue financially, then up to 90% of law-abiding Europeans become clear. But Lavrov and Churkin do not use this argument because finance is not its competence.

          Yes, they have already announced, repeatedly. Including Warsaw.
          They hope that the freebie will continue.
          It’s just that not in all Western media it sounds SO MUCH both Ukraine and the EU and the USA owe us.
          Maybe if it sounds, then they will pay off the debts. And we will calmly leave the buck.
        7. +1
          6 May 2014 18: 26
          I think that Lavrov and Churkin are still not stupid, and the Minister of Economy could have drafted a financial statement about the debts of an independent Poland so that, finally, the state of affairs reaches the stupid gay Europeans and Americans. You see, they will also begin to support the actions of Russia in Rohland.
          1. Alexander Ming
            +3
            7 May 2014 14: 35
            It is doubtful to the Americans that they do not care about the debts of our brothers.
        8. VAF
          VAF
          +2
          6 May 2014 19: 06
          Quote: Canep
          The author is right, if you transfer the issue financially, then up to 90% of law-abiding Europeans become clear. But Lavrov and Churkin do not use this argument because finance is not its competence.


          Namesake, +! But ... now there will be an "unctuous songbook" with the 2nd part .. "The swallows have arrived" and Explain to you .. that .. "you are not hinting at something right" well, etc. I will not retell that Nonsense, set forth in the "unctuous libel".
          But I was surprised by something completely different .. 488 + "PESENNIK" belay

          Н belay AROD .. YOU ARE ALREADY ALREADY ... "YOU'RE ALL EATED" ...

          And today, what .. have already seen the light, because. 342 + !. including mine. Naturally ....

          you already let us somehow determine the position.

          Well, about Lavrov and Churkin ... you think that her name was Competence lol no respected .. his name was bully (it's all the same. what about a bit of stooltkin to think. that he was a bastard .. he appointed himself and himself .. stsuka all the "reforms" spent ... survived ... for 2 parades we collect pilots and planes from all over Russia. belay
        9. +3
          6 May 2014 19: 10
          "finance is not his competence." ---- not finance is not in his competence, but some bad habit of looking for some kind of spiritual and mental delights where they never existed. It is necessary to speak with the West in the language of naked pragmatism that they understand - dough.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +3
            6 May 2014 19: 41
            Quote: varov14
            , and some kind of bad habit to look for some spiritual and spiritual delights where they have never been. It is necessary to speak with the West in a language of naked pragmatism that they understand — the dough.


            I completely agree with you, +! Gumilyov also wrote works on the contexts of linguistic culture ... but maybe they do not study this at MGIMO, although Lavrov, that Churkin’s men are already far from age request
            And to declare at a press conference .. "To throw from a sick head to a healthy one" (and right there our media picks up - oh, as he said harshly) ... belay
            Question-to whom he said? For ours? Yes, we understood ... the truth about ..hardly .. explicit search, but oh well.
            But for gay-ropa and amers ???? belay They are still wondering. what did the Russian Foreign Ministry mean Mr. Lavrov request recourse
            It's like "UsSaka" declares- .. "we must catch up with the burning monkey" 9 is and they have slang expressions) .. only for us they are request
        10. saber1357
          +1
          7 May 2014 00: 41
          Guys, this was discussed a couple of months ago. And the amervonies immediately raised a hi with a cautious remark about ukrodolgi that they say "Russia uses political pressure to solve economic problems." Therefore, both Vitaly Ivanovich, and Sergey Viktorovich and, naturally, Our Great Kaa V.V. play strictly according to the rules and I will not raise such an idiotic argument (yes, understandable to all Eurek, but really not acceptable for conversations at the political level) at international meetings. As we all, I hope we understand, there is a long-term information war and not always the best tactical argument (such as the one under discussion) is just as good strategically.
        11. +1
          7 May 2014 21: 07
          So let the Minister of Finance, together with Lavrov, travel and translate English into the language of mani.
      2. rolik
        +11
        6 May 2014 08: 28
        Quote: Sanya
        I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.

        This is precisely the language they understand. And if you start explaining to them the essence of the problem from the point of view of banal erudition, then then it never comes to them. Therefore, only penalized, and again penalized, so that the fifth point is always red.
        1. +7
          6 May 2014 10: 02
          That's it! Patsyava in a patsansky way - money against chairs - this is a concrete conversation. In geyropov and the United States, brains are erudite only in the field of loans and debt knocking out. Our diplomats unfortunately do not take this into account. And to take on paper all the debts of an independent one, to calculate, plus to add on how many currencies they removed from Russia by working as migrant workers and all this in the Hague, Strasbourg (what kind of courts are there?) And let them return in kind (land, real estate, factories, etc.) .)
          1. +1
            6 May 2014 16: 05
            Quote: sso-250659
            how much they exported from Russia working

            Whose cow would moo about "they took out", and no matter what offza put its tongue in * opa and not 3.14z affairs ...

            Especially clarifying that they worked "gastrarbytes"(c), i.e. engaged in physical labor in the fresh air, and not in tidy banks, offices and denture salons, dreaming of "distant countries" next to a puddle of brine ...
        2. Alexander Ming
          +1
          7 May 2014 14: 40
          A vivid example of this is the State Department’s spokesperson, one Psaki and her physical face, a typical example of the Anglo-Saxon race
        3. 0
          8 May 2014 07: 13
          I completely agree with Roller angry
        4. 0
          8 May 2014 07: 13
          I completely agree with Roller angry
      3. +1
        6 May 2014 09: 35
        They will understand, they will understand ... In other places they explained, so they understood.
      4. +8
        6 May 2014 09: 38
        Quote: Sanya
        Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.

        Purely patsansky? This is something like:
        Iron, soldering iron, started ...
        Yes, perhaps the iron and soldering iron will not be enough. And say TU-160 and carpet bombing is clearly a bit too much. Probably something like the T-90 just right, in the number of divisions or two, well, and in proportion to the infantry. Non-fallowers will scoop right up to the Polish border, like the Galitsians in 1944 from Brody, those who were fortunate enough to break out of the boiler.
        And how Yaytsenyukha and the company will be taken, here the iron is useful, and the soldering iron.
      5. +33
        6 May 2014 10: 02
        No need to explain - it is necessary to cut the gas. The executioners cut off the water to the Crimea - now Khokhlosmi is relishing that a rice crop has died in the Crimea, mocking Russia's activities to find water and drill wells. And nobody in Ukraine or in the world cares! As my Kiev partner, absolutely normal to Russia, told me - you knew what you were going for!
        And then feel sorry for these so-called brothers? Cut gas and explain to citizens what, why and when it will be turned on. After that, they will burn down the entire banderlogy, like the house of trade unions in Odessa. And ahead will be Dnepropetrovsk led by Kolomoisky - because they climbed into their pocket!
        1. avt
          +24
          6 May 2014 11: 06
          Quote: made13
          No need to explain - it is necessary to cut the gas.

          It won't work out so quickly. Under the terms of the contract, Geyvrop's gas is received at the western border of Ukraine. So, formally, they have the right, in the event of a valve closure in Russia, to issue us an invoice - to bet on money. But in the current situation, when the velikoukry stole all the technical gas from underground storage facilities, a situation of force majeure has been created and, as a result, the Germans will withdraw half of the capacity of the Nord Stream filled with energy from the third energy package of the European Union. So the GDP valve will actually be closed in June, when Euriopeans will refuse to pay for the Velikoukry.Well, since they will not receive loans to pay for gas, Velikoukry will also not receive the Dnieper water without gas. "The Kremlin's gas weapon in the form of a valve." Again, this is how to immediately kill the entire industry, the replacement of the products of which takes a year and a half or two, is very painful for the military-industrial complex of Russia. in full.
          1. +9
            6 May 2014 13: 19
            Quote: avt
            Under the terms of the contract, Geyvrop receives gas on the western border of Ukraine.

            That is, it turns out that for the execution of contracts, we are obliged to take control of the gas transmission system of Ukraine? Those. if not troops, then PMCs and auditors to enter Naftogaz from Gazprom and the EU?
            1. avt
              +4
              6 May 2014 18: 14
              Quote: Vasya
              That is, it turns out that for the execution of contracts, we are obliged to take control of the gas transmission system of Ukraine?

              As of today, and it has not changed technologically since the days of the USSR, YES.
              Quote: Vasya
              Those. if not troops, then PMCs and auditors to enter Naftogaz from Gazprom and the EU?

              Well, GAZPROM has already received the legislative right to the PMC. So hypothetically, with the approval of the European Commission on Energy, in order to ensure uninterrupted supplies, it is possible to legally secure the objects of the Ukrainian gas transportation system without the invasion of regular troops of any country. if asked, you can take under the protection of railway stations, railway bridges and other routes laughing
      6. Alex 241
        +14
        6 May 2014 10: 09
        Quote: Sanya
        Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.
      7. +8
        6 May 2014 10: 55
        No dough-health take))))
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        2. +2
          6 May 2014 16: 18
          Quote: Lawless
          No dough-health take))))

          Well said! Mazafaka! Chiert poberi!
      8. +4
        6 May 2014 13: 29
        In patsansky understand normal boys, and these are foreign cherries ...
      9. anomalocaris
        +1
        6 May 2014 16: 38
        In another they simply do not understand. Alas, this is a diagnosis.
      10. +1
        6 May 2014 16: 43
        Well, they’ll understand in patsansky style! They don’t spit on anyone, either they are bandits, they are judged or they are involved! So it’s only in terms of ideas! And you have to answer for them on the shoals, debts and rotten market!
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      12. +1
        7 May 2014 11: 53
        Just a dumb kiddy language they will understand faster. But they look at the great Russian language (in which Lomonosov, Pushkin, Tolstoy, and others have spoken), they look like a ram at a new gate.
        1. anomalocaris
          0
          7 May 2014 15: 42
          I don’t know ... When I begin to express themselves with “high calmness,” those who know hang themselves on my arms and legs, for in a few seconds I will start killing ...
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        3. +1
          7 May 2014 21: 35
          I agree. Even mate, almost every Russian word is acutely felt and immediately react! The Russian language is Great and Mighty, like its speakers. The fight against "Russianness" begins with the destruction of the language. This has been going on for a thousand years. And - nichrome. Survived!
      13. +1
        7 May 2014 12: 33
        need "fucking bad .."
    2. +64
      6 May 2014 08: 13
      So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)

      Here is an understandable language for Europeans and the United States.
      1. +23
        6 May 2014 08: 20
        That's how Vova laughs - he would laugh so :)
        1. +3
          7 May 2014 21: 15
          Do not say. And when it’s serious ...

      2. Vlad Gore
        +16
        6 May 2014 08: 32
        Although the video is old, it’s about the spite of the day (it’s not getting old). good
      3. vlad0
        +11
        6 May 2014 08: 37
        Clip inspired!
        Still without a mat, and it would be possible to show in a decent society.
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        1. +32
          6 May 2014 08: 48
          Given that we do not curse obscenities, but talk on it, you can show in a decent society.
          1. 0
            9 May 2014 12: 28
            Less to you! This is not cultural.
      5. acute
        +3
        6 May 2014 12: 12
        These supermen must be shaken more often so that their life does not seem to be honey
      6. tolson2013
        +3
        6 May 2014 12: 26
        The correct reaction of our chapter: and Wolfovich, alas, is too annoying, for a politician this is a seam ...
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      8. +1
        6 May 2014 19: 03
        It’s necessary to twist such a movie for geyropa more often, until it hits its edge!
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        2. 0
          7 May 2014 19: 05
          Europe does not like to watch this kind of "kina". The organ for digesting such "complex" information is completely atrophied laughing
      9. 0
        7 May 2014 21: 12
        Super movie. Only it was necessary also a Russian track.
    3. Hunghuz
      +6
      6 May 2014 09: 41
      hi I apologize but the national Eugene-Russian media have always lost and will ALWAYS lose the international Jewish media ......)))))))))) This is proved HISTORICALLY)
      1. +9
        6 May 2014 10: 18
        Hunghuz-y

        Because the truth is one, and lies have many "guises" and all of them "live" on the basest feelings of people. And it has been historically proven that the West, in the TOTAL, has never won. hi
        PS Do not say nonsense - do not have to apologize. fool
      2. +5
        7 May 2014 21: 24
        People work in the media. And people study and are brought up at school. The main thing is to control what teachers teach children in such lessons as: history, philosophy (I don’t know what they teach at school?), Literature. In Ukraine, we have the largest number of Russophobes among historians of Ukraine and Ukrainian literature and language. Maybe they attend special zombieseminars. So keep an eye on what the children are talking about after these lessons. I was able to jump from the Ukrainian needle, because I studied before 2000, and under Kuchma this phenomenon was just beginning. Now, as if the children were replaced. Keep track of what they are being taught and no media will break our opinions.
    4. +8
      6 May 2014 11: 38
      Quote: Kazanets
      So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)

      In general, the problem is a bit wider. After the West with its own hands destroyed legislative norms and rules, what laws can be relied on ??? After all, what is considered taboo in the West (non-payment of debt) is for us dense Russians, according to the West, should be perceived as manna from heaven.
      Who to negotiate with?
      In reality, the creation of a magistrate’s court, where judges renounce their citizenship, all countries of the world, equally finance the work of the court ............... although the Americans, in my opinion, have all the courts
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      1. 0
        6 May 2014 21: 51
        Ukraine not only betrayed Russia, but also those who are against Russia, because somehow it was returning to us. Like that .....deleted by moderator Apollo , with what ardor he hates, with the same passion he will fall in love when "the pendulum swings back." It's a shame for the Ukrainians, but they chose the power for themselves.
        1. +1
          6 May 2014 22: 15
          At the urgent request of a respected moderator, I ask the floor .....banned and deleted by moderator Apollo, in my previous comment read as "windy person"
          1. +3
            6 May 2014 22: 43
            Quote: arkady149
            in my previous comment read as "windy person"



            Roskomnadzor tightened control over the media

            ..................................
            Recall, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday signed a law on the prohibition of obscene language in works of literature and art, in the production of mass media, concerts, theatrical productions, entertainment and entertainment, as well as when showing films in movie theaters.
            http://vz.ru/news/2014/5/6/685474.html
    7. avg
      +2
      6 May 2014 12: 11
      and right now I’m calling the Kremlin (God forgive me for bluffing) and agree

      Forgive the bluff. The article is entertaining, but no more.
    8. Validator
      +15
      6 May 2014 13: 29
      Dreamer phasington
      1. +8
        7 May 2014 11: 26
        Quote: Validator
        Dreamer phasington

        By the way, for the story with this mansion, they wanted to put Poroshenko. This udot was demolished under his cottage the only sanatorium for the blind in Ukraine, naturally through a front company. But the investigation was able to unwind the chain. The coup d'etat prevented. By the way Avakov was also on the run and only thanks the impostors returned and immediately to the post.
        And now Poroshenko marks for the presidency.
        Well, the company has picked up
      2. 0
        7 May 2014 21: 26
        Well, and whose Poroshenko protege? Ukraine?
    9. 0
      6 May 2014 16: 23
      Quote: Kazanets
      So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)

      belay Well, yes, and another half of the world to write out bills! everywhere you can find, and pin.dos.tanu first! laughing
      the trick is that the whole west understands only the language of money and debt! but the fact that a huge number of relatives are there and there are those who, under attack, do not touch them at all!
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    11. 0
      6 May 2014 20: 51
      Quote: Kazanets
      So our media in a language that is understandable to Europeans needs to explain what is happening in Ukraine !:

      You can explain a lot in any language, the only question is who in the west is watching our SIM, reading, listening (underline what is necessary)?
      1. +1
        7 May 2014 14: 13
        Quote: OTTO
        You can explain a lot in any language, the only question is who in the west is watching our SIM, reading, listening (underline what is necessary)?

        The Western media are the agents of the politics of their states. Therefore, they attacked Russia Today, because there you can see another TRUTH WHICH WILL NOT BE SHOWN IN THE WEST
    12. +2
      7 May 2014 02: 55
      The whole world is mired in loans !!! And all of them are not particularly keen to give them away quickly to the IMF!
      The IMF is silent because it talks about debts only when the IMF is profitable!
      Now ask a stupid question: is it profitable to talk to the IMF about Ukraine's debt to Russia if the IMF itself wants to shove a sooo big "loan" into Ukraine ?!
      Moreover, everyone, including the IMF itself, is aware that any money tranches will simply not reach Ukraine, but will settle on the accounts of the same Gazprom!
      Therefore, Ukraine is not going to give loot!
      Here are expired NZ and cookies - they can be sent in three more batches .....
      Let them send! Interestingly, can cookies be heated with cookies ?!
    13. lotos
      +1
      8 May 2014 01: 58
      Putin sent an open letter to the Europeans, which explained in detail how much money Ukraine owes for gas.
    14. 0
      8 May 2014 09: 10
      Quote: Kazanets
      So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)

      It's not that simple unfortunately.
      It's not about the money (although in them, too).
      The point is the actual alienation (by changing the Ukrainian regime to pro-American) of Ukrainian territory from Russian influence, and its transfer under American influence. The goal is obvious. A dense gas transmission system passes through Ukraine to establish American control over Russian gas supplies to Europe. Move US missile defense components close to our borders. Expel the Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol and base the American fleet there. Or (since they flew with Crimea) to base amer ships with such components in Odessa, etc. Thus, completely depriving Russia of the ability to control the Black and Mediterranean Seas.
      After which Syria will surrender without a fight. Well, off we go, growing.
      The author of the article explained the state of affairs to the "Vikings" in a language that is understandable for them. But we understand that it is not about money, but about geopolitical influence and far-reaching conclusions and consequences. Yes
      1. 0
        8 May 2014 12: 50
        There are a lot of vectors of influence. Imagine that from Mexico or even juicier - Canada (!) Suddenly made North Korea and how fun the USA will be because of this and you will understand what is happening in Ukraine. But with Ukraine, even visa-free entry!
    15. 0
      8 May 2014 09: 33
      The question of money is for sure, but very different money, look Starikov everything will fall into place. + the United States is eager to earn money for all weapons barons, in general, as always, only today in Ukraine close to the Russian heart
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    17. 0
      8 May 2014 13: 11
      And I believe that the article is provocative ....
      We will leave the bombing for debts to the west, with their avaricious consciousness and castrated sense of justice.
      This is only an argument and an occasion for them, they are able to kill for money ...
      We are not them, we will not bomb for the loot.
      And Lavrov, Putin and our entire apparatus are right when they do not use such a "pseudo-understandable" logic.
      We are Slavs, we cannot kill for money, but for the fact that we are oppressing our brothers and for killing ours, we will give ass to the whole world.
      So and only so.

      And the author of the article by the very fact of writing this article provokes you to subscribe to values ​​that are alien to our Slavic perception.

      Fatty minus ...
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    19. +1
      8 May 2014 14: 36
      It seems that the matter is in other grandmas, which they received from amers and the turchik is now working out in full. Well, they run into war to the tune of the overseas. Withdraw the troops, cancel the referendum, disarm the southeast (as if the southeast, which these amerovskie henchmen want to destroy, will now be listening to someone). And yet it seems to me, whatever Russia is doing now, for a peaceful resolution of the situation, these U.K.R.O.Zh.o.p.y., McCains, Ashtons, Obamki and other Western TVA. and. will keep their own. And in the end we will have to answer with this KOZLAM. so that they choke on their "cabbage".
  2. +13
    6 May 2014 07: 14
    the logic of the Swedes is similar to the logical element "yes / no" - as if they live in a black and white world, or does the author simplify?
    1. +23
      6 May 2014 07: 33
      Quote: master_rem
      the logic of the Swedes is similar to the logical element "yes / no" - as if they live in a black and white world, or does the author simplify?

      - No, it does not simplify. Ordinary Protestant logic.
    2. rolik
      +15
      6 May 2014 08: 38
      Quote: master_rem
      the logic of the Swedes is similar to the logical element "yes / no" - as if they live in a black and white world, or does the author simplify?

      It does not simplify. My wife, at one time under a grant, lived in Sweden for a year. Everything is as the author describes. Everything is strictly parallel and perpendicular. And other than downs, she does not call them. All the leading experts on whom the economy of this country rests are not Swedes. Indigenous people are mainly involved in caring for the elderly. Volvo has more than half of the workers and engineers who came from the former Union. And so everywhere, a lot of Arabs. Almost all places to eat belong to Arabs. The main conversations with local people are not about politics and not about women))))))) but about taxes. The British talk about the weather, the Swedes about taxes.
  3. +30
    6 May 2014 07: 22
    But is it really time to switch to a purely commercial line of behavior?
    Just claim a debt.
    Artful politicians from Kiev have been playing the gas card for a long time, and you have to pay for card debts.
    Debt of honor.
    Nothing to pay? Get shot.
    Transfer property on account of debt.

    Geyropa and geymerika understands only the politics of money.
    For them, the concept of brother-sister-mother-father- is not quoted.
    Only the loot is in the eyes.
    So it's time to talk to them in their language.
    1. Alex_Popovson
      +21
      6 May 2014 07: 27
      Honor and commerce are incompatible. In the end, ours simply do not know how to impersonate, even when necessary.
      I would draw an analogy. America is a cunning child. Russia is a naive and honest healthy adult
      1. +4
        6 May 2014 21: 55
        Quote: Alex_Popovson
        America is a cunning child.

        Rather impudent puberty gopnik.
        1. 0
          7 May 2014 15: 59
          Probably something like this laughing

    2. +10
      6 May 2014 07: 43
      I do not want to slide down to the level of the West. They fell too low. If we fall also low, then personally I will lose pride in my country.

      Protecting brothers and sisters is first and foremost. Debts afterwards. Although of course you need to talk about them, using them as an additional argument.
      1. +4
        6 May 2014 08: 49
        In general, of course, 11 lard is pretty good. Clear business that they will not give.

        Pick up land and real estate. Preferably in the southeast.
        1. +4
          6 May 2014 09: 57
          By the way, Putin has already stated that Russia is tired of subsidizing the dill economy alone, it’s time to get connected to the mattresses and geyropeytsami. And at the gas consultations, our Commissioner poked a mug in the face with a signed contract and showed a finger on the price. It seems to be reaching.
        2. +5
          6 May 2014 10: 55
          Pick up the earth. Maybe it will come across some real estate.
      2. +1
        6 May 2014 09: 38
        There is no need to slide down to the level of the West, but you need to explain with them in a language they understand. This is why the Iskander, Topol and Airborne Forces with the Marines exist.
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    4. +6
      6 May 2014 10: 30
      From an interview with a Ukrainian economist:
      - Why is the Ukrainian economy so weak?
      - Because she is in the shade all the time and therefore does not have enough vitamin "D".
      - What does vitamin D mean for the economy?
      - Vitamin "D" is money.
    5. +12
      6 May 2014 12: 10
      In my last argument with the father-in-law, I’m again to blame for his phrase, I don’t heat him with gas in the winter and summer, refuse, do not refuel with Russian oil ... and we’ll see how the geyropeys rush to save you.
    6. +1
      6 May 2014 12: 17
      they don’t have much time to get gas for nothing, if they don’t pay on May 7, an advance payment is introduced.
  4. +5
    6 May 2014 07: 24
    The author exaggerates, but not by much. :)
  5. +5
    6 May 2014 07: 26
    Yes, the West understands only a business conversation. No fraternal peoples, with their feelings. But we are not the West, so they do not understand us.
  6. +5
    6 May 2014 07: 29
    Perhaps narrow-minded will be more understandable.
    Do not explain to them that we are allergic to fascism.
    1. +3
      6 May 2014 08: 19
      Perhaps narrow-minded will be more understandable.
      Do not explain to them that we are allergic to fascism.

      does not reach through the head, will reach through the .ope
  7. +6
    6 May 2014 07: 30
    It’s a little out of business, but thank you amused from the heart. I love when people have everything in order with a sense of humor.
    And then zapadentsy spoiled me the whole weekend.
  8. +7
    6 May 2014 07: 37
    It’s just necessary, as the author says, to come from the rear, put money at the head of the table. Ukraine needs us 14 or 17 lard money, please pay, you can’t, you don’t have money, but what are you fighting against your own people. Not for business it turns out.
    1. +1
      6 May 2014 08: 49
      Ukraine owes us 14 or 17 lard of money, please pay, you can’t, you don’t have money, but what are you waging a war against your own people. Not for business.
      Moreover, the deadline for the return is insanely draconian. For example 12 hours. Or 6 hours. After that, a "bailiff" is sent to collect the debt from the property (the territory with everything that is on it) at an arbitrary rate, which is naturally beneficial to us + arrest of the "top management" of the debtor.
      + the counter is switched on, for example 1 lard per day.
  9. yulka2980
    +5
    6 May 2014 07: 43
    am It’s time to make them pay the bills! We’re just like lo.khi and we’re just talking about legitimacy! The author correctly said that Europeans do not forgive debts! Are we really worse ?! We don’t always take them to the ridge! It’s good that soon there will be a south stream and finally
  10. +3
    6 May 2014 07: 43
    Quote: Alex_Popovson
    Honor and commerce are incompatible. In the end, ours simply do not know how to impersonate, even when necessary.
    I would draw an analogy. America is a cunning child. Russia is a naive and honest healthy adult
    America is not a cunning child, but a gopnik.
  11. +27
    6 May 2014 07: 44
    - In-oh-oh-about, already warmer ... And if the debtor does not want to give anything, but still makes a goat face to the lender?

    - Well, yes, it’s not solid, for such a face they beat a face in a decent company .. Especially this one !!!
    1. +4
      6 May 2014 08: 50
      for this in a decent company they beat their faces .. Especially this one !!!
      And for such grandmothers, maybe even kicking ...
    2. +11
      6 May 2014 10: 14
      I am not bloodthirsty, but this, if you please, the face, after what happened in Odessa, has earned a "smoke on the forehead" or a rope.
    3. +1
      6 May 2014 15: 45
      Turku - RESPECT !!!! good our turk understanding!
    4. 0
      6 May 2014 23: 28
      On all the pics, the oval of the lips is the same !?

      the mouth is always ready for m ... that - the woman has no man!

      Yes, and where are they going to be from?
  12. +8
    6 May 2014 07: 44
    Yes indeed. Why do not we speak with the West in a language that the West understands?
    Probably because Russia is not the West and will never be like the West. Just can not. This is not in the Russian spirit. Russian will never become a moral amoeba - these are mutually exclusive concepts. And becoming such an amoeba-will cease to be Russian. What we all observe these days in Ukraine.
    Here is my humble opinion.
    1. +3
      6 May 2014 11: 28
      I want to add that for moral-simplified Europeans, an adapted translation is still needed. Otherwise, for them we will remain that kind of fear that scares the kids. But how to make this translation - let those who are smarter than me think.
  13. maxim1
    +5
    6 May 2014 07: 44
    Quote: Alex_Popovson
    America is a cunning child

    Well, perhaps very vile and filthy.
    For the education of such "children" not a belt is needed, but a machine gun and a larger caliber.
    And debtors like the junta need a noose. Gas.
    1. +3
      6 May 2014 08: 26
      Quote: maxim1
      And debtors like the junta need a noose. Gas.


      Not. Gas is for Ukraine. And juntyam - personal to everyone, hemp.
      1. +1
        6 May 2014 08: 51
        Gas is for Ukraine. And juntyam - personal to everyone, hemp.
        It’s possible a gas ... chamber ...
  14. +2
    6 May 2014 07: 45
    Stop feeding the junta!
    1. 0
      7 May 2014 21: 33
      So ungrateful Europe. Want gas and sanctions? Is it too much? Although ... I heard some Americanos crying that because of the sanctions the United States stopped helping Russia and the Russian economy went uphill. But the faucet is worth it.
  15. Green
    +4
    6 May 2014 07: 49
    That the last time we all write off, and we x ...
  16. +4
    6 May 2014 07: 50
    "Here, in general, everything is just like that except money" (c) Brother2
  17. +10
    6 May 2014 07: 52
    And probably it's really time to switch to this logic ... communication with the Ukrainian authorities. And then they are crying - there is no money, for the civil war they are in order to maintain a completely mobilized army for several months - is there to form the next battalion of punishers - please, but not for the debts ????? can really help them find them ...
    1. +5
      6 May 2014 09: 26
      It's time. And here in Russia, everyone is raising the price of gas. And here you are. the brothers do not want to pay. It’s time already for face.
  18. +4
    6 May 2014 08: 04
    To communicate with the West, one must begin to use their values. Honor, duty, protection, help - they perceive these words differently than we do, so let them correct the text on RT. We also look at money, wealth, prosperity differently. "It is impossible to understand what is there, so what is here"
  19. +6
    6 May 2014 08: 11
    "No, a little. 3 yards of money for gas, another 3 yards - the last loan, another 11 - the current sanctions, and maybe there is something else, I don't remember ..."

    Bravo! Well painted. This is the language Europeans fully understand. And then ... killed, burned ... On this they prefer to close their eyes. Not with them, okay.
  20. +4
    6 May 2014 08: 12
    Yes, what did you want gentlemen))), our approaches are not compatible with the West, as one person said: - "In our country there are much more frostbitten than scalded!" + the breadth of the Russian Federation determined our maximalism (according to sociologists and ethnographers there), hence:
    1. We do not pierce the drawn cross on the belly with a sword, but sprinkle with flour and brandish with a club, i.e. the outcome is the same, but the time and cost of power are different))));
    2. We just need well, s.ts.u.ko.))) EVERYTHING on the shelves sorted out, bring all the facts to the opposite side, in the sense - to chew, chew and chew, instead of such a blow, not an eyebrow but in ... what is given in the article.
    1. +2
      6 May 2014 12: 45
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      sprinkle with flour and swing the club,

      Yes, and the results are consistent, although longer but the effect on the audience is much better. Pin injections have a bad effect on us and a lot of them are required, and the West understands only a club and only once is enough.
  21. sanek0207
    +4
    6 May 2014 08: 16
    Let money roll, but how else!? What do we care about the fact that they have nothing!? Since we are bad, it means you have to do what you should with them !!! How much can they be fed?
  22. +10
    6 May 2014 08: 21
    The author - yes, because we are not gay people!
    We are RUSSIAN - fighting for the lives of our brothers, and the gay men are fighting for money. We believe in God (I do not consider myself to be such, but I know that without spirituality there is no RUSSIA MATUSHA), and they are in a golden calf. For the same reason, they have mercenaries (for money), and we have volunteers (for faith and brotherhood).
    The only author’s rights, of course, in my opinion, is that we need to switch to double standards in news coverage. For us, everything needs to be covered in the press as it is being done now - it greatly raises our patriotism. I consider myself URA PATRIOT, but not a fanatic. I understand that there is a chess game on several boards at once, and to win on one of them sometimes means to lose on the other. But for geyropa and all Westerners, we must say that we are so squeezing out debts from non-payers.
    But here there is a huge minus - then we will become in their eyes like the United States. And according to the latest polls given here on the site recently - no one likes them. And I, as URA PATRIOT, would not want my RUSSIA to be treated the same as their USA.
    1. +3
      6 May 2014 08: 54
      It would be more than just such urapatriots ... +
  23. +6
    6 May 2014 08: 24
    Bravo! Excited! The author very well noticed the sore points of his European partners and in their language conveyed to them the essence of the conflict. This is what a businessman means. And as for

    "But really, why? Why not use this argument that is lethal for Westerners? It's all so simple. You have to - pay. If you don't pay - be patient and watch how your property is described, naming for it not the price that suits you, but the one, which suits the lender. "

    ... then it seems to me that Putin, refraining for some reason to take radical measures, at the moment, and is trying to rock Europe, trying to reach her from the economic side. After all, they held a meeting on gas RF-EU-Ukraine. And there Ukrainians were able to squeeze out of the EU, which is YES! SHOULD! YES! SHOULD GIVE IT! Now it remains to find out who will give and I do not think that the EU will take upon itself this headache. Well, they don't have any extra money. They do not have enough that is not enough.
  24. +8
    6 May 2014 08: 29
    Cool guys! Well done!
    Let the SE Army know that they are not fighting the Nazis and not for their homes, but are punishing the junta for its debts to Russia. And also to them to declare that we will deliver weapons only after they sign debt obligations.
    You yourself are not disgusted with transferring everything to grandmas? How will we differ from the "free democratic world"? And the memory of grandfathers, on the eve of May 9? What about the Blackwater rating (they are just for the money)?
    Maybe for the geyropeytsev debts and argument. And how much will we consider burnt in Odessa? A shot at Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
    For me it is duty to punish the junta for the lives of people and the memory of their fallen grandfathers. And on the grandmother you need to put their "owners"
    1. +3
      6 May 2014 08: 44
      after reading the article, besides the same thoughts, nothing more arose ... maybe I misunderstood something? what
  25. ken
    +14
    6 May 2014 08: 31
    Ay, well done Author! Simple, accessible, and most importantly, intelligibly conveyed to the "ignorant"!
  26. +1
    6 May 2014 08: 38
    Everything would be fine if the Americans had not already laid eyes on this property, and in some places a paw!
  27. +1
    6 May 2014 08: 38
    Great article! The author is well done! Applause!
  28. Polarfox
    +7
    6 May 2014 08: 40
    I tweeted Lavrov a link to this material. I think Sergey Viktorovich will see; he is following Twitter.
  29. +4
    6 May 2014 08: 42
    Nobody in this situation in Ukraine considers the economic component, there is a purely geopolitical "game" and only because of this people are dying. And these debts are between two economic entities, that is, Gazprom and Naftogaz. All other loans were redeemed Eurobonds of Ukraine and these finances are protected.
  30. +6
    6 May 2014 08: 46
    For most of us, Ukrainians / Belarusians are fraternal people, with whom there is nothing to share and it is necessary to help them and save them all the time. Only for them we are so big, strong and kind lohopers. Which sin cannot be robbed of a fairy tale about the fraternal people, then also mock at this. The answer should be adequate to the collision. So what, that we are more and we are stronger and more provided with resources. Debt cannot be forgiven. Otherwise, we will not be the fraternal people who came to the rescue, but stupid quilted jackets, which were circled around the finger. And then, Ukraine has room to run away in case of hunger / cold. Part to the west, part to us dependent. We are kind, we will regret everyone ...
  31. +2
    6 May 2014 09: 11
    Protecting brothers and sisters is first and foremost. Debts afterwards. Although you certainly need to talk about them, using them as an additional argument. [/ Quote]
    Following your logic, we had, have and will have, we cannot be noble in a gadyushnik!
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  33. +1
    6 May 2014 09: 24
    Members of the forum, this slogan was already "nepoddavatsa provakatsii" how it ended, hopefully remember. We are no longer the USSR and we must behave accordingly.
  34. +3
    6 May 2014 09: 34
    I understand that friends owe money for gas. With friends, it’s not good to take in dollars. It is necessary to take in rubles. Golden ...
  35. +2
    6 May 2014 09: 39
    Plus article, I liked it, simply, intelligibly.
    It is necessary to translate into the languages ​​of the world, and as a story between the foreign ministers, let’s say the Russian Federation and Sweden, run around the world, I’m sure enlightenment will come in many heads!

    I would take the debt with the earth ...
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      6 May 2014 19: 37
      Quote: Black and White
      I would take the debt with the earth ...

      And for Odessa - too?
  36. +3
    6 May 2014 09: 40
    Do not forgive anything, claim everything to a penny, there is no money, let them give in kind.
  37. +3
    6 May 2014 09: 50
    Well, let’s say we told them about the debts. But it’s kind of like that it doesn’t belong to the political agenda, European integration, Moscow’s machinations, imperial ambitions, and shh, it’s not a shorter type. And there are brothers, sisters, wives, mother-in-law for domestic consumption. For the UN and the UN Security Council, human rights and other. Although the EU’s turnips are already scratching their shoulders. If they win, it’s probable, but not much, that the debts will completely fall on them plus the restoration of at least some semblance of the economy. In case of our victory, 2/3 will be on their shoulders, we’ll already be restoring the truth. Now we’ll go away. The EU understands that they got into grandmothers anyway, and they themselves got stuck in. They scream about the sanctions loudest than anyone else, while sabotaging them and quietly looking for a way to get off the American bad car without losing face.
  38. +2
    6 May 2014 10: 08
    Well ?! Very accessible explained to hot Swedish guys! Well done!
  39. onegin61
    +2
    6 May 2014 10: 11
    Everything is in order with humor, Respect article. A direct plan for action, it’s a pity that the Russian leadership is chewing on the snot for some reason. Take everything to the last pants, and if you don’t give it away, pick it yourself together with giblets (read debtors)
  40. +1
    6 May 2014 10: 26
    It is clear that the author is joking! But this banter also needs to be used at all levels, even Lavrov when talking with the Americans. His authority will increase decently!
  41. +3
    6 May 2014 10: 37
    The article was a little late. After 10 days (May 16), the Russian Federation issues the first invoice for gas to Ukraine with payment of the invoice until May 31. Let's see how the debtor will play up. Although, most likely, the banal theft from the pipe will begin again, and then the robbed Western "partners" will change the tone of the conversation and remember about the debit-credit.
  42. +2
    6 May 2014 10: 47
    "the author burns", but everything is on the case.
  43. +1
    6 May 2014 10: 47
    With the educational system that was introduced in Europe thanks to the United States, Europeans need to chew everything into molecules, because otherwise they simply will not be enlightened.
  44. +2
    6 May 2014 10: 47
    Everything is correct, only our prime minister should speak. And to say directly who and how much should pay and which otherwise we will impose sanctions and when. good
  45. +3
    6 May 2014 11: 04
    "That's all !!!" - the Swedish faces brightened up, - "The car of fanatics is not a problem, we will print, wrap up Ukraine, Crimea, and the Kemsk volost"
  46. +3
    6 May 2014 11: 18
    Well, actually, Russia not only "has the right", but must impose sanctions against Ukrainian officials, and demand the imposition of such sanctions from the US and the EU as signatories, the Geneva agreement, on which the Kiev junta laid down the "big fat one." Moreover, many juntas have interests in Crimea. They "grabbed" a lot over the years of independence.
  47. necha265
    +1
    6 May 2014 11: 21
    The debt of Ukraine is growing exponentially, no soldering iron, no iron, and even "intercessors" will help it !!! feel
  48. +4
    6 May 2014 11: 29
    Once again "+" to the article and its author, it seems that the method WORKS ...
    ATTENTION!!! If, then what I will tell the TRUTH, I beg you NOT to LAUGH, but at least somehow feel sorry for the unfortunate Ukraine ...
    Correspondent "KP" Alexander Kots informs:
    10.58 Moscow time May 6 "It is reported that the military has left the Kramatorsk airfield, in fact, everything is not so simple."
    10.59 Moscow time May 6 "It's just that the owner of the airport, Dmitry Podushkin, billed Ukrainian soldiers for using the airfield."
    11.00 Moscow time on May 6 "... But the soldiers have nothing to pay for the use of the airport, and they left for the forest belt"
  49. arch_kate3
    +2
    6 May 2014 11: 39
    The author is right - you need to talk to people in a language that they understand! Our diplomats are too intelligent with this cattle, you have to be easier .... and people will reach for them ...
  50. +3
    6 May 2014 12: 10
    Gas must be shut off for a long time. In connection with the killing of civilians.
    Gas must be shut off. They do not understand another conversation.
    And they don’t understand. And people continue to die.
    Sanctions on sanctions.
    And that, it was necessary to do, yesterday!
    1. +3
      7 May 2014 09: 23
      What is the point of sanctions? Against the right sector, which is paid in dollars?
      Sanctions will have the opposite effect - anti-Russian ram is being prepared from Ukraine, and if you act aggressively, the conflict will only flare up.
      The strongest thing that can be done is to convey the truth to the parties to the conflict! A true story, a truth about debt, a truth about what is happening. And constantly, as accurately as possible, keep a history of debts - what and for what should the Ukrainian scholars, as well as Europeans, who impose sanctions without real reason. When in our country they will understand that subsidized politics is utter idiocy.
  51. +1
    6 May 2014 12: 35
    The article is chatter. There is a genocide of the Russian people in Ukraine, and the author is talking about money. And let me remind the scribbler that in particular in Odessa during the Second World War, the thieves were on the same page with the authorities. So it doesn’t work like a boy. In addition, if he is such an expert in the principles of the criminal world, then he should know that no one needs a dead debtor. We need money, not the corpse of the Ukrainian economy.
  52. 0
    6 May 2014 12: 45
    Quote: Kazanets
    So our media should understand what is happening in Ukraine in a language that is understandable to Europeans! :) They owe us money, but they don’t want to return us, they’re also pressing ours, they are pulling the Amer’s roof, radishes! :)

    We are losing the information war dryly!!!!!! It's a shame. Remember the first Chechnya!
  53. ed65b
    +2
    6 May 2014 13: 05
    Yes, they relied on all the author’s calculations. No one will prove anything to anyone because they only see what is beneficial for them to see. If you bomb for debts, they will never understand.
  54. +6
    6 May 2014 13: 07
    Why bomb it? One Babai is enough... (joke)

    However, I congratulate everyone on yet another “victory” of the valiant army. The punitive forces left the airfield they had captured in Kramatorsk for a very prosaic reason.

    It reminds me of an old joke:
    The partisans arrived and drove the Germans out of the forest. The Germans regrouped and knocked out the partisans. The partisans gathered their strength and knocked out the Germans. And then the forester came and dispersed everyone.
    1. +1
      6 May 2014 16: 45
      Is there at least one joke that would not come true in the Ruin?
  55. tolson2013
    +1
    6 May 2014 13: 14
    Comrade citizens,...we sat together mentally, that's the main thing...where there is a well-covered clearing, any company will be OK by the end of these gatherings. Putin needs to hold negotiations on the floor,...who remembers the film about Peter 1, so it was said,... dear for every Russian word: EVERYONE TO THE TABLE, though Peter, before he sat him down at the table,... heaped a lot on someone,....
  56. +1
    6 May 2014 13: 20
    When it comes to actually repaying debts, Russia is always not in the “Azz”. The Americans appear, like the jack-in-the-box, and take the whole jackpot. What has changed? A gang of cheaters with money will always beat one.
  57. +1
    6 May 2014 14: 02
    A huge + to the author!!! If I could, I would give it 1000+! I have a friend who lives in Sweden and he recently explained the situation to his colleagues in exactly the same way. We understood everything at once! Zadornov is right - they are all milled there! And so they understood everything and were even surprised at our gentleness! They would have acted much more harshly in such a situation!
  58. pvn53
    +1
    6 May 2014 14: 04
    Of all the variety of explanations for Russia’s position, this is perhaps the most imaginative, accurate and intelligible. Send it to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Presidential Administration, whoever has the opportunity. A plus for the author.
  59. +2
    6 May 2014 14: 05
    It is imperative to help the residents of the South-East (weapons, materiel, people, information)!!! And debts must be demanded and extorted (soldering iron, iron, bat, etc.) from the owners. And the tougher the better. They don’t care to get high. am
  60. +1
    6 May 2014 14: 46
    Bombing Ukraine is, of course, too much. But pushing hard to start paying off debts is a matter of course. You see, there will be less funds left for the war against Donbass. Since it does not pay its debts, it means that Ukraine is no longer a sovereign power. And it is still quite possible to squeeze out the oligarchs.
  61. +1
    6 May 2014 15: 27
    Well, what's the point of talking again, turn off the gas. Russia has obligations to the EU. And we, unlike some, always fulfill our obligations. Everything in this area is going well. Although with difficulty, Ukraine admitted its debts. We are waiting for the end of May. If they start stealing gas, as they have done repeatedly, we will collect the gas transportation system for its debts and, together with Germany, we will take control of it throughout the entire territory of Ukraine. We must fulfill our obligations to Europe. The question of how they will pay for filling gas storage facilities is now being resolved. Without this, supplying Europe in winter is difficult.
    Well, not very good news. The Russian government is going to buy real estate in Crimea from so-called issuers abroad. Isn’t it Kolomoisky? Sincerely.
  62. +1
    6 May 2014 15: 45
    I already wrote in another discussion and will write now. It's not just about money. It's time for our leadership to call a spade a spade!!! If you don’t want to repay your debts and are still trying to deny them, then you are a THIEF! If you supply terrorists in Syria with weapons and money, you are a terrorist and a murderer squared away!!! Naturally, all statements must be supported by evidence, and then the ardor in rhetoric of these scoundrel opponents will greatly diminish!!
  63. ..Dmitry..
    +1
    6 May 2014 15: 55
    +500100 points. wink I don’t know if this is a real story or not, but the gist is correct!
  64. +1
    6 May 2014 16: 04
    Well done author! Informal approach!
  65. +1
    6 May 2014 16: 56
    But really, why does Russia only make excuses and not pose the question exactly like that???
  66. Vova
    -16
    6 May 2014 17: 08
    All of Europe gets 300 gas, and Ukraine gets 500. Because we are Slavic brothers. Imagine at the market, everyone has cucumbers for 50, and you come up, you get 100. Putin and Miller screwed up together, and everything went from there. Everything could have been different, calmer, they drove the crests to the brink, and now we raise our eyes to the sky, what kind of Banderaites they are
    1. +1
      6 May 2014 17: 20
      Quote: Vova
      All of Europe gets 300 gas, and Ukraine gets 500. Because we are Slavic brothers. Imagine at the market, everyone has cucumbers for 50, and you come up, you get 100. Putin and Miller screwed up together, and everything went from there. Everything could have been different, calmer, they drove the crests to the brink, and now we raise our eyes to the sky, what kind of Banderaites they are

      Vova, if you don’t know, then shut up! Here is the rating compiled by the Poles, here is the price with a Kharkov discount. At the same time, in the form of gas discounts, we provided the brothers with 200 to 300 BILLION over all the years of independence, and these are again European figures.
      1. +2
        6 May 2014 17: 28
        Quote: Orik
        Here is the rating compiled by the Poles, here is the price with a Kharkov discount.

        Well, and about the “most expensive gas” in Ukraine, in detail:
        http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1795809.html
  67. +2
    6 May 2014 17: 50
    Whoever "dines" a girl is the one who "dances" her, so wash yourself off Ukraine :)
  68. +2
    6 May 2014 18: 11
    Yes, are you friends???? The next section of the pie is taking place - its name is UKRAINE. “Naftogaz” is such a tasty morsel??? (We have Gazprom, well, who will give it back, and we’ll easily take Naftogaz for debts), Coal of Donetsk, Metallurgy of Kramatorsk, Motor Sich (how much money is being pumped into the defense industry in our Russia - everyone knows) and other enterprises - it should all be ours. Our oligarchs think so. From here it’s all short-lived. After all, no one knows what ours agreed with theirs. That's why all the fuss goes on. Who will scare you more and take it away... I’m saying this as an option. And the people????? Let's go. They don't even think about them anymore. Business however.....
  69. Observer
    +2
    6 May 2014 18: 32
    Quote: SPLV
    Quote: Canep
    Finance is not his competence.

    Didn’t it occur to you that this has been thought out for a long time? And no option? Perhaps you think that for the states a dozen or two billion is a lot of money? If you transfer to money, then the Americans can safely throw the dice of Russia in the form of several lards, but then they are the kings of Ukraine, and we will immediately be thrust into meddling. Or do you, respecting Lavrov and Churkin, consider them idiots who failed to figure out such options? mille pardons

    Moreover, the printing press is under the control of the amers. As Papandopulo said in “Wedding in Malinovka”: “Listen, take everything. I’ll draw more for myself.”
  70. +1
    6 May 2014 18: 44
    Chop off...all to the ears angry
  71. +1
    6 May 2014 18: 45
    When can I bomb? Ukraine for debts

    YES RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT and NOT applicable,
  72. +1
    6 May 2014 19: 09
    Quote: Uncle
    The article is chatter. There is a genocide of the Russian people in Ukraine, and the author is talking about money. And let me remind the scribbler that in particular in Odessa during the Second World War, the thieves were on the same page with the authorities. So it doesn’t work like a boy. In addition, if he is such an expert in the principles of the criminal world, then he should know that no one needs a dead debtor. We need money, not the corpse of the Ukrainian economy.



    This is just one of the techniques of information warfare.
    I would go further. At Ukrop, some politician calculated how much Russia owes for Crimea and for each square of it. m, it didn’t work out very much, you can recalculate the debt to the area of ​​​​the South-East and collect it for the debts and also offer to take gas to the rest of Ukraine.
  73. 0
    6 May 2014 19: 19
    Quote: turk
    - Well, yes, it’s not solid, for such a face they beat a face in a decent company .. Especially this one !!!
    But for some reason our Supreme Commander doesn’t want to beat this one:
    then he asked not to mock the poor woman and to be released from prison, now he says that it was she who, in a fever, promised to wipe the Russians off the face of the earth with nuclear weapons.
    Were you also out of your mind about the dead Odessa residents?
    Question No. 1 - is she ever sane?
    question "2 - why is GDP so favorable to her?
    1. 0
      9 May 2014 06: 40
      Quote: Kuguar
      Quote: turk
      - Well, yes, it’s not solid, for such a face they beat a face in a decent company .. Especially this one !!!
      But for some reason our Supreme Commander doesn’t want to beat this one:
      then he asked not to mock the poor woman and to be released from prison, now he says that it was she who, in a fever, promised to wipe the Russians off the face of the earth with nuclear weapons.
      Were you also out of your mind about the dead Odessa residents?
      Question No. 1 - is she ever sane?
      question "2 - why is GDP so favorable to her?



      It was she who signed the current gas supply agreement! That's why I served time under Yanukovych.
  74. +1
    6 May 2014 19: 47
    Nothing personal, just business.
  75. +1
    6 May 2014 20: 19
    I completely agree with the author that financial issues are most important for Europeans. Therefore, there is no need to bomb anyone, let’s wait until they’ve had enough of sanctions and their own representatives of big business start kicking them. Then they will be forced to sing differently, and then we will begin to resolve the Ukrainian issue more harshly. Everything is moving towards this, it has already begun in Germany and Norway. In Europe, the population is beginning to realize that their media is distorting the facts. In general, I would like to beat the d...s, but it’s a pity for the fists.
  76. Daemon
    +4
    6 May 2014 20: 29
    Still respect them...
  77. +1
    6 May 2014 20: 32
    There was already a precedent: am am am
    Our Secretary of State (Minister of Foreign Affairs) S. Lavrov at the UN podium needs to convincingly shake an ampoule of powder, call it a weapon of mass destruction for Ukraine, and tomorrow precision bombs, shells and cruise missiles will bring democracy to Iraq... oh, Ukraine.
    In Odessa, hold a people's tribunal and hang the junta leaders on the Maidan as a warning to posterity.
    1. +1
      7 May 2014 21: 48
      Whoa. Like Hussein's Americans. Although if we give them to the same Odessa residents to burn, I don’t mind. Old Europe burned heretics for hundreds of years. Here's the European way with Europhiles
  78. 11111mail.ru
    +2
    6 May 2014 20: 49
    He who has eyes, let him see! He who has ears, let him hear! He who has no brains will not see or hear anything, because he is a Caucasian!
  79. Ivan 63
    +1
    6 May 2014 21: 51
    A team of experienced collectors is required.
  80. igorek45
    +1
    6 May 2014 22: 12
    sledge
    Purely patsansky explain? I'm afraid in patsansky they do not understand.

    Well, these same Scandinavians understood...
  81. +1
    6 May 2014 22: 20
    Of course, not everything is as simple as the author outlined, BUT the West clearly understands conversations about money.

    There was a topic with Khodorkovsky... when they explained to European human rights activists that he was imprisoned for non-payment of taxes on an especially large scale... half the fervor and drooling diminished.
  82. +1
    6 May 2014 22: 29
    The American government, due to the intellectual poverty of its members, has turned international relations into criminal showdowns between warring gangs of international criminals. Thus, the very concept of “crime” is bracketed and leveled: “everything is possible, even what is impossible, is still possible.” But Russia, I believe, should not stoop to such a level. Upholding people's right to life and freedom has always been the strength of our country, and compliance with international treaties and laws is a fundamental part of this right. We must defend the letter of the law and international law, otherwise the world will plunge into the chaos of permissiveness and the rule of the strong, that is, it will finally slide into war.
    And in general, criminal terminology (fenyu) that is not related to the criminal world cannot be used, because this is already a violation of the laws of this very criminal world. I hope that people who know this will support me.
  83. +1
    6 May 2014 22: 36
    Gas will not be cut off on May 7, and prepayment will not be transferred. As usual, the deadline will be extended for some time. Europe pays.
  84. +5
    6 May 2014 23: 40
    In one gorgeous film there was a phrase - Don’t confuse your sheep with the state ones!
    Vladimir Vladimirovich may be enough to pay for other people’s Maidans with our gas! Isn't it time to turn on the valve?
  85. +1
    7 May 2014 00: 38
    The idea is great, but only at the level of middle-level traders, but of course it also needs to be pedaled, many will look at the problem from a different perspective.
    And at Lavrov’s level, of course, this cannot be voiced; the Americans will record every word and turn on the printing press for a couple of days at increased speed. How many times they ask you to type so that you just fall behind. Bring it to you in bags or by email.
  86. +1
    7 May 2014 09: 15
    If anyone knows how to count, they will understand that the article forgot one more debt from Ukraine, which seems somehow indecent to even talk about: indirect subsidies for many years due to prices for gas and other resources, customs agreements, market agreements, barter in debt account, etc. In fact, the debt of the Ukrainian state is significantly greater than the official accounting figures, because... the state abandoned a number of agreements for which financial preferences were agreed.
    I don't think we should forget about this. It’s worth poking your nose more often, regularly and loudly, at how and how much Ukraine owes, at the expense of whom it paid pensions and benefits, including to Westerners who are stupidly in debt to the Russian Federation, who pretend that everything is exactly the opposite.
  87. firedrake
    0
    7 May 2014 10: 45
    This is fine! It is high time!
  88. +2
    7 May 2014 11: 43
    Abortive material of Ukrainian nationalism:

    Even drug addicts were brainwashed.
    A similar m.a.z. rushed at children in Odessa with a knife yesterday
  89. Georgich
    +2
    7 May 2014 11: 52
    To pay off the debt, take the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and the canal that supplies water to the Crimea.
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  91. +1
    7 May 2014 13: 03
    You know, laugh and laugh, but some people are calculating different options, including those that will have to repay debts with land...

    “Privat’s days are numbered. Even the record amount of refinancing in the amount of 13 billion hryvnia, which the Kyiv bandits “donated” to the Kolomoisky Privat, could not save the doomed bank. If you have deposits in Privat, you have another ten days to withdraw them. I also recommend withdrawing salaries and savings from cards. Otherwise, your money will go to the income of Kolomoisky’s casino.

    Only facts from all over Ukraine:
    The day before yesterday, all managers of PrivatBank above middle management left the Donetsk region, all branches of the bank are closed.
    In Ivano-Frankovsk, a friend received a transfer through Sberbank of the Russian Federation. At Sberbank they told him that now the transfer can only be received at Privat. When he got there, he was informed that transfers can only be made to the Privat card, the card takes three days to issue, and the transfer percentage is 5%
    In the Odessa region there is no money in Privat branches and ATMs. There is also something incomprehensible on the cards - small amounts are missing. Payments do not go through terminals.
    Check mobile payments. If you pay for the phone through Privat 24, then with a high probability the money may be lost. It is better to pay with mobile operator cards. In the last two weeks, cases have become more frequent when money is debited from the card, but does not arrive on the mobile phone account.
    In Zaporozhye, closing a deposit with Privat 24 can no longer be done - “the action is not available, please contact the branches.” And at the branch they say that they have a system failure and they cannot close deposits yet. Last week it seemed like it was possible to close the deposit, but today it’s no longer possible.
    In the Sumy region it is no longer possible to transfer a deposit from a Privatovsky bank to another bank. Bank employees refer to some internal instructions.
    Be sure to control the interest on the deposit. Over the weekend, two people - from Kyiv and Odessa - reported that Privat was stealing deposit interest and “biting off” quite decent amounts. Count everything yourself - even to the point of writing it down on a piece of paper. Kolomoisky’s affairs are so bad that he picks on little things.
    In the Kirovograd region and Sumy region, salaries that are transferred to Privat cards have been delayed for two weeks already.
    In the Kherson region, in order to withdraw a deposit, you must give 20% of the deposit amount - bank branch managers directly report.
  92. 0
    7 May 2014 13: 04
    The issuance of deposits is limited to 15 hryvnia per day. Starting next week, the official limit is 000 hryvnia per day. And then they won’t give anything back.
    Privat ATMs have already begun to be burned in Dnepropetrovsk, in Kolomoisky’s cozy lair. For example, today ATMs were burned on Pobeda, Sokol and Frunzensky.
    Privat branches are burning all over the South-East, as in Mariupol. And every night the number of Privat ATMs is reduced by several dozen. Starting this weekend, the same thing will begin in Kyiv - our guys will take care of it.
    It turned out that Kolomoisky inflates the “salaries” of militants of the punitive battalions “Dnepr” and “Donbass” by one and a half times. That is, he is quietly pinching the punishers for a long, comfortable life in Geneva.
    Kolomoisky is now in Odessa. On his initiative, about 4 bandits - Right Sectorists, National Guardsmen... and Syrian militants - were brought to Odessa. A person from Kolomoisky’s entourage said that Benya plans to stay in Odessa. He is afraid of Dnepropetrovsk - he believes that he can be killed there, and that there is an organized and armed underground in the Dnieper. Now Wolfsschanze of the thief-oligarch is located in Odessa.
    I wonder if in two weeks Kolomoisky will be able to laugh as fervently as in the photograph? But ordinary people who do not have time to withdraw their money from Privat will not be laughing."
  93. +1
    7 May 2014 14: 18
    Sometimes our relations with Ukraine seem like this to me.
  94. +1
    7 May 2014 15: 49
    The article has been written and everything in it is SIMPLE and LOGICAL! but how to teach it in the West? After all, few people read Russian, and they won’t allow you to print in English.
    1. 0
      7 May 2014 22: 02
      Quote: Iskander Khan
      So let the Minister of Finance, together with Lavrov, travel and translate English into the language of mani.
  95. Korablev
    0
    7 May 2014 16: 01
    Ukraine received the first tranche from the IMF
    “All funds from the first tranche arrived in Ukraine on Tuesday in the planned volume, we confirm this information,” the press service said. The tranche amounted to 2,058 billion SDR (special drawing rights), or over three billion dollars.

    Vobla, as luck would have it, just as the rotten Maydauns began the real genocide, they immediately received money from the Gayrop IMF. I wonder if they will now be paid extra for each act of genocide or if it’s “for everything” in advance.
  96. Korablev
    0
    7 May 2014 16: 05
    Oops, another Pin. Dossian cruiser is heading into the Black Sea, it’s not time for Russia to conduct anti-ship shooting exercises near Turkey, otherwise the “luminaries of shit-cracy” have become loose as at home.
  97. 0
    7 May 2014 16: 32
    Life News reported that the SBU officers captured in Slavyansk are being exchanged for Gubarev. I just don’t understand yet whether they’ve already exchanged or agreed
  98. +1
    7 May 2014 16: 46
    Gubarev was traded!

    The militias exchanged Alpha fighters for captured self-defense leaders. Supporters of federalization exchanged three previously captured special forces soldiers for militia leaders. 07.05.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

    On May XNUMX, at one of the checkpoints near Slavyansk, three Alpha fighters were exchanged for three leaders of the people’s militia. On the part of self-defense activists, the “people's governor” of Donetsk Pavel Gubarev and the deputy “people's mayor” of Slavyansk Igor Perepechaenko returned to the militias. The name of the third is also unknown.

    On April 25, Igor Perepechaenko traveled to Moscow at the invitation of one of the TV channels. Upon his return, he was detained by Ukrainian special services.

    “People’s Mayor” of Slavyansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev stated then that he was ready to exchange Igor Perepechaenko for one of the detainees who are now in the hands of the people’s militia of Slavyansk.
    http://lifenews.ru/mobile/news/132788
  99. +1
    7 May 2014 16: 50
    Why not clean out the main employers?
    Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, Tymoshenko? - this is more humane than waiting for significant human losses in a civil war.
    1. s1н7т
      0
      7 May 2014 17: 22
      Because human losses probably don’t bother anyone. Now we all live happily in capitalism. Read the classics - they explain what capitalism is.
  100. 0
    7 May 2014 17: 54
    Well, Russia leaked everything to Ukraine... sad
    Putin called on Donbass to postpone the referendum... People died for no reason...
    Or is there a grand plan here?! Explain to me?!
    1. 0
      7 May 2014 18: 05
      Quote: vvvvv
      Well, Russia leaked everything to Ukraine... sad
      Putin called on Donbass to postpone the referendum... People died for no reason...
      Or is there a grand plan here?! Explain to me?!

      This was to be expected ...
      Despite respect for the inhabitants of the South East. The referendum on May 11 will be difficult to recognize from the legal side, no matter how much one would like it. I constantly listen to Donbass radio, the referendum has not yet been organized properly, in many villages they know practically nothing about it. The heads of village councils openly say that there will be no referendum. And there are no activists, no militia, and there is still fighting going on. So think about how to recognize it under such conditions. It will be extremely difficult...
      By the way, then we will have to recognize the elections, but the GDP said about them that the legitimacy of their conduct does not inspire confidence...
      1. 0
        7 May 2014 19: 54
        It’s just that the anti-Russian forces have powerful Western support, with the help of which Kyiv was captured and the power of the junta was imposed on the whole of Ukraine. And Russia is also afraid to act. This will all end badly...

        "Tatyana Kolesnikova
        Today the editor of the magazine received a message from a man from besieged Slavyansk.

        Here it is:
        A. Proskurin 11.07
        Ask on behalf of all citizens of the South-East of Ukraine to “introduce peacekeeping troops for protection, humanitarian, medical, food assistance.” And say so, in your own words, “us Russian speakers, Russians and those who are killed here for free expression of will, we fear for the lives of our children “Put the emphasis on the peacekeeping contingent.
        Perhaps I am writing to you for the last time.

        11.17
        In the morning, a friend in Mariupol was driving to work, called, there were corpses of women and children on the streets!!! the shootout took place at night. You understand that women and children do not go out at night during such difficult times!!!! these are show executions!!!! they fire at apartments and throw the dead into the streets so that everyone can see who survived - they finish off!!!! !spread the information, it won’t be superfluous, I won’t leave my family alone in the house, but I’m also afraid of losing them if I do nothing. My call alone is not enough.

        Here's what is reported in the media.
        News:
        The building of the Mariupol City Council was occupied by the Ukrainian military. Information about this is posted today on the city's official website."

        Etc. What to think?!

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