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Information war against Russia: the view of Alexander Prozorov

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The war against Russia has been going on for a very long time and very, very successfully. Of course, not on the battlefields, where we have always beaten everyone and it is very painful, but where the West has always won and continues to win - in information wars. The main goal is to prove to the inhabitants of our country, then they are stupid, brainless rednecks, not even second-rate, but somewhere in the 6-7 category, without past and future. And he has practically proved it - even the authors of many patriotic articles agree with this approach entirely.

Examples? You are welcome:

Example 1: We recently celebrated the 1000 anniversary of Russia. And when did it actually appear?

The first capital (only the capital of a large country!), The city of Slovensk, was founded in 2409 BC (3099 year from the creation of the world) source of information - the chronicle of the Holy Monastery on the Mologa river, the chronograph of academician M. N. Tikhomirov, “Notes on Muscovy "S. Herberstein," The Legend of Slovenia and Ruse ", having a wide circulation and recorded by many ethnographers. Since it is believed that Novgorod was built on the site of Slovenska, I pestered the leading excavations of archaeologists, as far as plausible. Literally, they answered me like this: “But hell knows. We have already got to the Paleolithic sites there. ”

Example 2: It is believed that somewhere in the 8 century, wild brainless and irrelevant Slavs wandering around the woods called Viking Rurik to themselves and said: "Own us, oh great European superman, or we are idiots, nothing can not". (Free textbook presentation on stories).

In fact: Rurik is the grandson of the Prince of Gostomysl of Novgorod, the son of his daughter Umila and one of the neighboring princes of smaller rank. He was called along with his brothers, because all 4 Son Gostomysl died or died in wars. He was accepted by persuasion with the elders, and he worked very hard to earn respect in Russia. Source: Ioakimovskaya chronicle, Russian history by Tatishchev, "Brockhaus and Efron", etc.

Example 3: The opinion is spread everywhere that almost the only civilization of the past was the Roman Empire, a model of legality and morality. In general, the gladiatorial battles of Rome, that the modern indulgence of marauders in Iraq is one field of berries. The morality of the Western world has not changed much, and continues to cause disgust in "savages" like the Russians, Chinese and Dagestanis.

The official history: the great beautiful and mighty Roman civilization fell under the blows of smelly, shaggy savages.

In fact: sick and tired of all (as Americans now) geeks were reorganized by more decent neighbors. Golozadaya and bare-legged, poorly armed Roman infantry (open a textbook on the history of the ancient world, and admire the legionnaires) were worn down in katafrakariyami clad in steel from the tops of horses. The main source of information is the Cataphracts and their role in the history of military art A.M. Khazanov. (I don’t remember the rest, but those who wish can search the autosearch themselves. There is a lot of material - they just don’t let him go to school. “Harmful”).

The most interesting thing is where did the Huns come from to “clean up” Rome? The Ob, the Ugra, the Volga region, the Ural region, the Azov region ... The graves with partial armament of catapractaries were also found in Dagestan.

Have you, patriot comrades, looked at the map for a long time? So where did the Huns go to Rome? Why is "wild Russia" in Europe called Gardarik - the Country of Cities?

Now it does not matter - because we are celebrating 1000 years of Russia with joyful faces, we consider Rurik the host who came from Norway, who founded Russia, and even seem to be proud of such a story.

Millennium 4 sent to the dog's tail, cheekily fucking like uninteresting - and no dog even blinked.

1:0 in favor of the West

The second goal in the Russian idiot

In the 8 century, one of the Russian princes nailed a shield to the gates of Constantinople, and to assert that Russia did not exist and then it turns out difficult. Therefore, in the coming centuries, long-term slavery was planned for Russia. The invasion of the Mongol-Tatar and 3 centuries of submission and humility. What is marked this era in reality? We will not deny the Mongol yoke, but:

As soon as Russia became aware of the existence of the Golden Horde, young guys immediately went there to plunder the Mongols who came from rich China to Russia. The best described are Russian raids of the 14 century (if someone has forgotten, the period from 14 to 15 is considered to be a yoke). In 1360, the Novgorod boys fought along the Volga to the Kama mouth, and then stormed the large Tatar city of Zhukotin (Djuketau near the modern city of Chistopol). Having seized countless riches, the ears went back and began to “drink up zipuns” in the city of Kostroma.

From 1360 to 1375, the Russians made eight large trips to the middle Volga, not counting the small raids. In 1374, the Novgorodians took the city of Bolgar for the third time (near Kazan), then went down and took Sarai himself, the capital of the Great Khan. In 1375, Smolensk guys on seventy boats under the leadership of the governor Prokop and Smolyanin moved down the Volga. By tradition, they made a “visit” to the cities of Bolgar and Saray. Moreover, the rulers of the Bolgar, taught by bitter experience, paid off a large tribute, but the Khan's capital of Sarai was taken by storm and plundered. In 1392, ushkuynik again took Zhukotin and Kazan. In 1409, commander Anfal led 250 ushkuyev to the Volga and Kama. And in general, to beat the Tatars in Russia was not considered a feat, but fishing. During the Tatar “yoke”, the Russians went to the Tatars every 2-3 of the year, the Shed fired dozens of times, and the Tatar women were sold to Europe by the hundreds. What did the Tatars do in response? Wrote complaints! To Moscow, to Novgorod. Complaints are preserved. Nothing more "enslavers" could not do.

The source of information on the mentioned campaigns - you will laugh, but this is a monograph by the Tatar historian Alfred Khasanovich Khalikov. They still cannot forgive us of these visits! And at school they still tell how the Russian gray-eyed men wept and gave their girls into slavery - because, like humble cattle. And you, their descendants, also penetrate with this thought.

Do we have any doubts about the reality of the yoke? 2:0 in favor of the West.

Example 3:

In the 16 century, Ivan the Terrible came to power. During his reign in Russia:
- jury trial introduced
- free primary education (church schools)
- medical quarantine at borders
- local electoral government instead of governor
- the regular army first appeared (and the first military uniform in the world was at the archers)
- Tatar raids stopped
- equality was established between all segments of the population (did you know that serfdom did not exist in Russia at all? The peasant was obliged to sit on the land until he paid for its rent - and nothing more. And his children were considered free from birth in any case !)
- slave labor is prohibited
the source is the lawsuit of Ivan the Terrible.
- The state monopoly on the fur trade, introduced by Grozny, was canceled just 10 (ten) years ago.
- The territory of the country is increased by 30 times!
- emigration of population from Europe exceeded 30 000 families (those who settled along Zasechnaya line were paid lifting 5 rubles per family. Expenditure books were preserved).
- The growth of the welfare of the population (and paid taxes) during the reign amounted to several thousand (!) Percent.
- for the entire reign, there was not one executed without trial, the total number of "repressed" was from three to four thousand. (And the times were dashing - remember St. Bartholomew's night).

Now remember what you were told about Grozny at school? That he is a bloody petty tyrant and lost the Livonian war, and Russia was shaking in horror?

3:0 in favor of the West.

Speaking of stupid Americans as a result of propaganda. Already in the 16 century in Europe, many brochures were published for every brainless man in the street. It was written there that the Russian tsar is a drunkard and a libertine, and all his subjects are the same wild freaks. And in the instructions to the ambassadors it was stated that the tzarion king was unpleasantly intelligent, he did not stand drunk categorically, and even banned drinking alcohol in Moscow, as a result of which it is possible to “get drunk” outside the city, in the so-called “liqueurs” (the place where they pour). Source - study "Ivan the Terrible" Casimir Waliszewski, France.

Now guess from three times - which of the two versions is presented in the textbooks?

In general, our textbooks are based on the principle that everything that is said about Russia is filthy is true. All that is said good or intelligible is a lie. One example. In 1569, Grozny arrived in Novgorod, which had approximately 40000 populations. An epidemic was raging there, and it smelled of rebellion. According to the results of the sovereign's stay, the memorial lists that were fully preserved in synodics celebrate 2800 dead. But Jerome Horsey in "Notes on Russia" indicates that the guardsmen cut out 700000 (seven hundred thousand) people in Novgorod.

Guess which of the two numbers is considered historically accurate?

4:0 in favor of the West.

Wild Russians cry and wail

And they are constantly being hijacked and dashing Crimean basurmans being driven into slavery. And the Russians are crying and paying tribute. Almost all historians point their fingers at the dullness, weakness and cowardice of the Russian rulers, who could not even cope with the shabby Crimea. And for some reason they "forget" that there was no Crimean Khanate - there was one of the provinces of the Ottoman Empire, in which there were Turkish garrisons and an Ottoman governor sat.

No one wants to accuse Castro that he cannot capture the tiny American base on his island?

The Ottoman Empire by this time actively expanded in all directions, having conquered all the Mediterranean lands, stretching from Iran (Persia) and advancing on Europe, approaching Venice and besieging Vienna. In 1572, the sultan decided to conquer at the same time wild, as European brochures asserted, Muscovy. 120 of thousands of troops moved from the Crimea to the north, with the support of 20 thousands of janissaries and 200 guns. Near the village of Molodi, the Ottomans encountered the 50-thousandth detachment of voivode Mihail Vorotynsky. And the Turkish army was ... No, not stopped - completely cut out !!!

From this point on, the Ottoman attack on the neighbors stopped - and try to engage in conquest, if you almost halved the army! May God bless the neighbors themselves to fight back.

What do you know about this battle? Nothing? That's it! Wait, after 20, about the participation of Russians in World War II will also begin to “forget” in textbooks. After all, all the "progressive humanity" has long been firmly aware of - the Americans defeated Hitler. And it is time to correct the “wrong” Russian textbooks in this field.

Information about the battle of Molodyah can be generally classified as closed. God forbid Russian cattle learns that it can also be proud of the acts of ancestors in the Middle Ages! He will develop a wrong self-consciousness, love for the Motherland, for her deeds. And this is wrong. So, it is difficult to find data about the battle at Molody, but it is possible - in specialized reference books. For example, in the "Encyclopedia of Armaments" KIM three lines written.

So that - 5:0 in favor of the West.

Stupid Russian loafers

Remembering the Mongol invasion, I wonder all the time - where did they manage to collect so many sabers? After all, sabers were forged only from the 14 century, and only in Moscow and Dagestan, in Kubachi. Such a strange fork - forever we with Dagestanis unexpectedly get the same. Although in all the textbooks between us there is always a pair of hostile states listed.

Nowhere else in the world have they learned to forge saber - it is a much more complicated art than it might seem. But there was progress, 17 century. Saber gave way to other weapons. Before the birth of Peter number 1 remained quite a bit. What was Russia?

If you believe the textbooks, something like the one in Tolstoy’s novel “Peter the First” - patriarchal, ignorant, wild, drunk, inert ...

Do you know that it was Russia that armed all of Europe with advanced weapons? Every year, Russian monasteries and foundry yards sold hundreds of cannons there, thousands of muskets, cold weapon.

Source - here's a quote from the "Encyclopedia of weapons":

“It is interesting that in the XVI-XVII centuries manufacturers of artillery guns were not only Pushkarsky sovereigns, but also monasteries. For example, a fairly large production of cannons was carried out in the Solovki monastery and in the Kirillov-Belozersky monastery.
They owned guns and very successfully used them Don and Zaporozhye Cossacks. The first mention of the use of guns Zaporozhye Cossacks refers to the year 1516.

In the XIX-XX centuries in Russia and abroad the opinion was formed that the pre-Peter artillery was technically backward. But here are the facts: in the 1646 year, the Tula-Kamensk factories supplied Holland with more 600 guns, and in the 1647 year 360 guns of the 4,6 caliber and 8 pounds. In 1675, the Tula-Kamensk factories shipped 116 cast iron cannons, 43892 cores, 2934 grenades, 2356 musket trunks, 2700 swords and 9687 iron poods. ”

Here you have a wild backward Russia, about which they say at school.
6:0 in favor of the West

By the way, from time to time I encounter russophobes who claim that all the above-mentioned cannot be, since even highly progressive and developed England and France have learned to cast iron only in the 19 century. In such cases, I argue for a bottle of brandy and lead a person to the Artillery Museum in St. Petersburg. One of the cast-iron cannons, cast in 1600, there is cheekily lying on a pedestal for public viewing.

3 bottles of brandy in my bar have already accumulated, but I still do not believe. People do not believe that Russia throughout its history and in all respects has overtaken Europe by about two centuries. But...

Loser conclusions

Starting from school years, we are told that our entire history is like a huge cesspool, in which there is not a single bright spot, not a single decent ruler. Either there were no military victories at all, or they led something bad (the victory over the Ottomans is hidden, like nuclear launch codes, and the victory over Napoleon is duplicated by the slogan Alexander — the gendarme of Europe). Everything that was invented by the ancestors is either brought to us from Europe, or simply a baseless myth. The Russian people did not make any discoveries, did not release anyone, and if someone turned to us for help, it was slavery. And now everyone around has the historical right of Russians to kill, rob, rape. If you kill a Russian person, this is not gangsterism, but a desire for freedom.

And the lot of all Russians is to repent, repent and repent.

A little more than a hundred years of information warfare - and we all have already sown a sense of our own inferiority. We are no longer, like ancestors, self-righteous. Look at what is happening with our politicians: they are constantly being justified.

Nobody demands that Lord Juda be brought to trial for propaganda of terrorism and cooperation with gangsters - he is persuaded that he is not entirely right.

We threaten Georgia - and do not carry out threats.

Denmark spits us in the face - and not even sanctions are imposed against it.

The Baltic countries have established an apartheid regime - politicians shyly turn away.

People demand to allow the sale of weapons for self-defense - they are openly called worthless cretins who, by stupidity, will immediately kill each other.

Why should Russia make excuses? After all, she is always right!

Say about this no one else dares.

You think - just the current politicians are so indecisive, but others are about to come in their place. But this will never happen. Because the feeling of inferiority is laid not in the post of Minister of Foreign Affairs. They begin to be systematically brought up from childhood, when the child is told: our grandfathers were very stupid, stupid people, incapable of the most elementary decisions. But the kind and intelligent uncle Rurik came to them from Europe, I began to OWN them and to teach them. He created for them the state of Russia, in which we live. Poison drop by drop pours into the soul, and when a person leaves school, he already gets used to looking at the West as a kind owner, more intelligent and developed. And at the words "democracy" begins to rise on the hind legs reflexively.

What the Western world knows best is waging an information war. The blow was dealt to a place that no one had thought to protect - according to the educational program. And the West won. It remains to show a little patience - and our children themselves will crawl on their knees in that direction and will be asked for permission to lick the owners of their shoes.

Already crawling - a couple of days ago I managed to see a piece of the transfer “Why does Russia need its own currency?”. Right. Then it will be: "Why do we need an army?". Then: "Why do we need statehood?"

West won. The consignment.

What to do?

If you do not want slaves to be made out of children, you need not to shout that we will fight when the time comes, but to save them right now. The hour has come, the war is almost over for the overwhelming advantage of the enemy.

It is necessary to urgently break the course of teaching history, changing the focus of training on the positive. My girls are still 4 and 5 years old, but when they go to school I foresee hard days. Claims for poor teaching are guaranteed. If the historian does not teach children who such an important person was as Rurik or does not know about the battle of Molodin, then he must pay fines from his own pocket.

Better yet, file a lawsuit with the Ministry of Education for spreading false information. Hire a good lawyer and hurt them to kick them - let it itch. But I have no money for the “good” one. Weakly throw off in the name of saving the honest name of their ancestors?

The second way to strengthen the position on the fronts of the information war is to require the procurators to initiate a criminal case on the fact of inciting ethnic hatred by teaching false historical information.

Examples of mass. Recall the Tatar yoke. We are told that the Tatars oppressed the Russians, but they do not say that the Russians plundered the Tatars no less famously. As a result, the Russians have an insult to fellow citizens on a racial basis. And the insult is wrong. We are all good, and behaved exactly the same.

Or, for example, last year in Kazan they celebrated (or tried to celebrate) the day of the memory of the Tatars, who defended the city from Russian troops. There is a clear confrontation on a national basis. Although in reality the city was taken not by Russian, but by Russian-Tatar troops. The cover of the Shig-Alei cavalry provided cover for the archery detachments — and if he is German, then I am ready to admit myself to be the Pope. Russian-Tatar troops took Kazan, eliminating the influence of Istanbul on the Volga, and defending civilians from predatory raids, freed tens of thousands of slaves. It is enough to recognize the participation of the Tatars in this noble cause - and the national question loses its urgency.
But I am not a lawyer, and I don’t know how to roll a statement in such a way that they don’t brush it off and send it to hell.

By the way, the Dallas plan about inciting national hatred was repeatedly mentioned here. And no one paid attention to how it is implemented. Also at school. Good teachers diligently sow discord between the largest national groups - Russians and Tatars. The whole course of history is perchite about how the Tatars attacked, how the Russians attacked the Tatars, etc. But nowhere does it indicate that the Tatars are our symbiote, the partner people. Tatar units ALWAYS were part of the Russian troops, participated in all Russian wars - both internecine and in battles with an external enemy. It can be said that the Tatars are simply Russian light cavalry. Or Russian - Tatar wrought army.

Tatars fought against Mamai on the Kulikovo field, together with the Moscow Ratiu, Tatars first attacked the enemy in the Swedish and Livonian War, in 1410 year Grunwald joint Polish-Russian-Tatar army utterly defeated the Crusaders broke the back of the Teutonic Order - and the Tatars took the first blow.

Sometimes people ask me why I don’t mention Lithuanians. So I mention - Russian. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was a Russian state, with the Russian population, who spoke Russian, and even the clerical work was in Russian. And you thought that a small racist country on the Baltic coast was once a great state? 7: 0 in favor of the West.

For four thousand years we lived side by side with the Tatars. They fought, were friends, were related. The Romans, the Crusaders, the Ottomans, the Poles, the French, the Germans were smashed ... And now our children are opening a textbook, and they are dripping from every page: enemies, enemies, enemies ...

Legally, this is called inciting ethnic hatred. And in fact - the usual information war.

The war continues ...
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  1. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 5 May 2014 16: 10
    +34
    Correctly. The information war continues. And we are trying to hold the front. And hold.
    1. Alexey N
      Alexey N 5 May 2014 16: 32
      +7
      Use verified information:
      http://vk.com/donbass_res
      http://anna-news.info/taxonomy/term/7728
    2. BYV
      BYV 5 May 2014 16: 56
      +18
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Correctly. The information war continues. And we are trying to hold the front. And hold.

      My daughter is 8 years old and I am waiting for the story to begin. It seems that spending time on lessons will have much more.
      1. Barmal
        5 May 2014 17: 07
        +19
        in general, I agree with the author, therefore the article was proposed for VO. But small details - "We recently celebrated the 1000th anniversary of Russia. And when did it actually appear?"
        1000 years of Russia were celebrated a long time ago - in the 1862 year. 152 years ago. If he speaks of the baptism of Rus, then in 1988.

        the meaning of the article is correct, it remains only to find out how to get out of the environment in this war of intellects.
        1. smile
          smile 5 May 2014 18: 08
          +9
          Barmal
          The article is good. although she has some very serious flaws, mistakes and incorrect conclusions - but these are trifles against the general background - we are all not without sin.

          But, to be honest, I would like to talk privately with the author and advise you not to engage in nonsense and not spoil the life of your girls - this is me that the author is determined to sue. If the case did not concern his children, I would not blather, but here ... So,
          1. Prospects for litigation. which the author wishes to initiate are very unfavorable. I would like to inform the author right away - the success of the case is almost weakly correlated with the degree of goodness of the lawyer. For one simple reason - what is more important than the actions of a lawyer (who can help in this case only in procedural matters) is what the experts will say.
          The developers of the school curriculum, of course, will attract experts with very high-profile titles and high authority, especially since for them the outcome of the case is very important for various reasons. Therefore, a lawyer can only drag out the case, but the result is virtually inevitable .... And why then raise a butch?
          By the way, on a significant part of the questions, different historians of the highest level have completely different opinions ... and the followers of certain statements cannot agree for centuries .... does the author think that the court will take and resolve the issue?

          2. He wants to initiate this lawsuit when his girls begin to teach history. Accordingly, this cannot but affect the attitude of the teaching staff towards them. You can be sure that they will become famous throughout the city. Do they need that kind of attention? Let the girls regret it.

          3. If the author really wants to change something (I personally welcome this with all my hands and feet), then let him act at least on behalf of a public organization. initiative group on Medinsky or the Ministry of Education - all the more so since it’s just decided what the textbook will be - it will certainly be more productive than tormenting yourself, the children and the judge, who will definitely hate him for making him think the judge nonsense (I guarantee this), when his terms are burning in criminal and civil cases ....
          1. Foxmara
            Foxmara 5 May 2014 19: 58
            +4
            Thanks for the "science". In the near future, there are plans to go "to the masses", that is, to the education system - to bring children what I can. (military-patriotic education). If there are similar materials on history - please - give links. I will save up the archive and re-read it. History is not my strong point, but somehow the situation needs to be corrected. We must ourselves. If someone is already engaged in such activities - contact, share your experience.
            1. smile
              smile 5 May 2014 20: 23
              +2
              Foxmara
              But for the fact that you are going to go to the masses, and even more so to education, bow to you low!
              And about the links .... you see, what I know is not taken from a limited number of links, but from various publications, monographs, documents and a host of other sources that I have read over the time that I can read ... Moreover a significant part of the materials were contradictory - they were written by comrades from abroad or by urrrrods, such as rezun, bunich, corned beef .... read, compared, poked around in details, numbers and searched for published documents ..... not to mention that At the law school that I completed, much attention was paid to history ... in the end, it turned out what happened. Because I'm somehow lost when you ask about links. So let’s you say the topics you are interested in, and I express my opinion about what is worth reading. You, in turn, also advise me, I also have a lot of gaps, no less. than yours .... But, I think it will be easier for you to work with the site’s archive - there are so many things indicated, so many links given that you can’t reread them over ten lives .... :)))
              1. Barmal
                6 May 2014 12: 38
                +3
                smile
                if there is a registration entry in LiveJournal, do mercy, enter the comments link in the article and post your opinion there, your level of understanding of the problem is much higher than mine, and I do not have LiveJournal login to do it myself. Sorry.
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara 6 May 2014 20: 32
                +1
                agreed. hi
            2. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 5 May 2014 21: 52
              +1
              Quote: Foxmara
              History is not my hobby, but somehow the situation needs to be rectified.

              Quote: Foxmara
              In the near future, there are plans to go "to the masses", that is, to the education system - to bring children what I can. (military-patriotic education).

              Better not and this is serious. If you are not a historian, then do not grab the top and litter the brains of the rest, no offense. I am no less a patriot than you, but I don’t want to carry any nonsense under the guise of “discoveries” and “revelations” to people, otherwise we will slide down to Ukrainian historians with their ancient ukram and the invention of the wheel and the domestication of fire. Even in our highly official and refined history, there is much that any sane person can be proud of. Only it has now become out of fashion to convey it. It's easier to dig up something fried-patriotic, think out the rest and, voila, a new story is ready.
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 5 May 2014 22: 44
                -2
                Better not, and this is serious.
                You wrote very politely about this article. I basically swear words ...
                I see a new round of retyping revelry from history is rising.
                1. kotvov
                  kotvov 8 May 2014 13: 01
                  0
                  not, but you try to refute, at least in the form of links. but somehow I do not seriously agree. The author may have exaggerated somewhere, but he is based on historical documents. I also often came across documents contradicting official history. I think It is not that simple.
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara 6 May 2014 20: 36
                +2
                just do not want to trade fried. Therefore, I ask for opinions. as you noticed - quite famous. but .. make the children think, seek and doubt what they are given, compare and verify .. does that make sense?
            3. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 6 May 2014 02: 37
              +1
              Now there are films on history. Authors Nosovsky and Fomenko. Simply located on request on the Internet. By chance, I had to read all their books live when the video (private) was not even in the plans. Now it’s 100 times easier. It will take tens and hundreds of times less. For some reason, the author did not name these historians. Just some make history and victories, others just rewrite history. Hence, such a devastating one is not in favor of the Russians.
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 5 May 2014 22: 36
            +1
            Quote: smile
            Accordingly, this cannot but affect the attitude of the teaching staff towards them.

            and how can this be reflected, at one time the mother ran into our mathematician, they also told her that they would start getting me the answer was killer, she won’t deliver less than four, and then if she tries very hard
            1. smile
              smile 6 May 2014 00: 16
              0
              Vasilenko Vladimir
              Yes, in general, the point is not academic performance, but moral and psychological comfort for children at school. Girls will study that part of the story, the study program of which the author of the article is going to challenge in the teenage period. You know it yourself. how important psychological comfort is at this age, especially for a girl. And teachers are different, they can arrange a rather fun life. to make fun of. set up classmates. in any case, girls will become famous, including among students .... they may even be attacked .... I think it’s obvious how such things can threaten the emerging personality of a teenage girl and how she will react to it. It can become isolated in itself, it can go to school. as to hard labor ... etc, etc. The mass of options.
        2. Shaki's memory
          Shaki's memory 5 May 2014 22: 19
          +6
          Well, few people know that the army of Aleksei Mikhailovich was an order of magnitude stronger than the army of Peter Alekseevich. At one time, they slapped me to redelivery when I put forward this thesis, then they really put 5 and told me to be silent))) 20 years have passed))) But really, when you start to operate with facts, then the people are obscured, and there are a lot of sources, ranging from the "western" to our open but "clouded" .. because few people read the memoirs of Patrick Gordon or "The History of Military Reforms" by Kurbatov .. When you say that during the 30-year war Russia supplied weapons to Europe, no one does not believe, and that the "Tula pistol" castle was cheaper and much more reliable than the wheel castle of Europe, they say that this is a lie ... But many know ... But you cannot "drive" that "Russia is the homeland of elephants" just tell the truth .. And It's time to remove the "Miller" story from education for a long time ... and then we will powder our own brains ...
      2. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 5 May 2014 17: 20
        +8
        my 12. they already have a bit of history ... something that has to be told not from the textbook ....
      3. Pacificus
        Pacificus 7 May 2014 12: 49
        +1
        My daughter is 8 years old, and I'm waiting for the story to begin.

        For me, this is already a completed stage.
        I myself am interested in history. As a child, my daughters and I talked a lot about Earth and space, aliens and people, about history. Especially about the story. Small, at first did not understand how this is? they say one thing at school, and I’m different. They spent hours in libraries and on the internet. We sorted out the questions, looked for answers.
        Now she is studying at the institute, an archaeologist. She became interested in Egypt and wants to find / refute the existence of Hyperboria. And openly ridicules many historical postulates.
    3. Cherdak
      Cherdak 5 May 2014 17: 33
      +21
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Right.

      It remains only to add:

      - Hey, why do you drink this dirty water from the lake, the govnostok comes out from the whole village!
      - What did you say?
      - I say: scoop with two hands!
    4. major071
      major071 5 May 2014 18: 58
      +10
      I will say this: I don't care what homosexuals of the West write about me and the history of my country. I AM RUSSIAN. And I know that the history of my country is rooted in the distant past. And do not poke me in the face with references to the "creations" of Western and pro-Western historians. I do not perceive them, because in their opinion, I am a dirty and wild barbarian. We have a whole country of barbarians. And we can’t do anything ourselves, the geyrope nobly throws everything to us. We have never had any great poets, writers, or scientists. We have nothing. We are barbarians who are once again trying to teach life to dull Europe and the United States. Fuck them all .. IMHO.
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    5. Ulus5
      Ulus5 5 May 2014 20: 47
      +3
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Correctly. The information war continues. And we are trying to hold the front. And hold.

      Do you know why? Because, as it is said in V. Vysotsky's song, they read the necessary books in childhood. History in Soviet times was correctly hammered into our heads. And that worldview, formed in childhood, now no "correct" American books will squeeze us out of our heads.
    6. Setrac
      Setrac 5 May 2014 21: 14
      +3
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Correctly. The information war continues. And we are trying to hold the front. And hold.

      This article is a hundred years old at lunch. She was written NOT TO UKRAINIAN EVENTS.
    7. Siberian German
      Siberian German 6 May 2014 03: 52
      0
      I’m 3 years old, a little bit left before school and I agree that now it’s necessary to shake these silkworms - but this should be not only a court - they may not speak about him, but also some kind of public speaking
  2. Validator
    Validator 5 May 2014 16: 11
    +32
    Burn the junta in hell
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 5 May 2014 16: 36
      +19
      Mikhail Zadornov correctly said: They are not stupid, they are animals ....
      1. Alexey N
        Alexey N 5 May 2014 16: 46
        +7
        Based on this, we need to build a foreign policy with the West!
      2. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 5 May 2014 17: 28
        +5
        They are not stupid, they are animals ....

        no need to drive a wave on animals, they have nothing to do with it here. The behavior of many animals can be set as an example to people.
        The correct name for these "dumb" ones is Europeans. At all times they loved to burn people alive and only recently came up with a guillotine to humanize their executions.
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 5 May 2014 22: 37
        +1
        Quote: SS68SS
        They are not stupid, they are animals ....

        I do not agree, I communicate with animals every day, believe they are smarter
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  3. SS68SS
    SS68SS 5 May 2014 16: 12
    +14
    ... Legally, this is called inciting ethnic hatred. But in fact - the usual information war ...

    The war continues. The war will be won. Victory will be ours!!!!
    1. TURKISH
      TURKISH 5 May 2014 16: 38
      +10
      There are no winners in the war!
      There are victory days, there are heroes
      Since the days of the great Troy -
      There are no winners in the war!

      There are no winners in the war!
      There are widows, orphans, cripples;
      There are rivers of tears and blood rivers -
      There are no winners in the war!

      There are no winners in the war!
      There are those who are responsible for the war,
      And it doesn’t matter to us: whether these, these -
      There are no winners in the war!

      There are no winners in the war!
      Flames of plutonium with uranium
      And in the battle of the Bible with the Quran -
      There are no winners in the war!

      There are no winners in the war
      As there is no rest to the old wounds.
      It's time to understand the hype
      NO WINNERS IN THE WAR !!!.
      1. smile
        smile 5 May 2014 17: 46
        +9
        TURKISH
        A beautiful poem .... But in fact, excuse me. so hypocritical. which is even inconvenient. There are winners in the war .... The simplest example is Hitler’s attack with a bunch of European countries on us ... what, there is no winner in the war? So what? there are no winners in the war ... and it doesn’t matter to us - are these these? Does it really matter to you who won? And are we the same as those who attacked us?
        If we did not win the war with Poland, there would be no Russians left as a nation — they would enslave us, partially destroy us and partially assimilate us, making us forget our language and culture.
        If we lost the war to the Swedes - we would not exist as a state - we would tear the country to pieces.
        If we had not defeated the Turks, there would have been no such nations as Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Armenians and Ukrainians — Turks and the remains of the assimilated population would have lived there, and we would most likely have been killed by other enemies.
        Well, I have already spoken about the fascists - I suppose one expression "Plan Ost" is enough ...
        So that hypocrisy is not necessary, albeit in a beautiful poetic wrapper - there are always winners in the war ... always!
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    2. Hariva
      Hariva 5 May 2014 16: 45
      +31
      I already remembered, but I think it will be appropriate to repeat the words of Robert Sheckley again.
      It's a shame that in the information war the one who always tells the truth always loses. He is limited by the truth and is forced to speak only it. A liar can carry anything.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 5 May 2014 16: 52
        +8
        Bravo, Roman! Bravo, R. Sheckley! good
  4. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 5 May 2014 16: 15
    +27
    And the MILLENNIUM OF RUSSIA was not celebrated by anyone. Celebrated the 1000th anniversary of the Baptism of Russia. this is completely different, for even Rurik came to rule Russia much earlier.
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 5 May 2014 16: 43
      +4
      And when, let me ask you? Specify the date!
      The 1000 anniversary of the Baptism of Rus was celebrated at the beginning of the 80 of the last century.
      1. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 5 May 2014 16: 57
        +4
        Rurik ruled in Russia from 862 to 879.
        Baptism of Rus - 988
        The Day of the Baptism of Rus is a memorable date legally established in the Russian Federation on June 1, 2010 in memory of the baptism of Rus. Celebrated July 15 according to the Julian calendar - as the day corresponding in the XXI century to the memory day of Prince Vladimir of Kiev, revered by the Equal-to-the-Apostles Baptist of Russia.
        what other dates are needed? reign of the Drevlyansky prince Bus (Bosch) for example ...
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 5 May 2014 17: 10
        -6
        Quote: Old Cynic
        And when, let me ask you? Specify the date!
        The 1000 anniversary of the Baptism of Rus was celebrated at the beginning of the 80 of the last century.

        If 1988 is the beginning of 80's, then I have nothing to say.
        The author of the article piled up not more sour than the great ukrov, referring to the drawings in the history textbook so unloved by him. You need to know and love your story, and not distort hypotheses read or heard out of the way somewhere. And referring to the robberies of the Tatars by the Russian, relying on the works of the "oppressed" Tatar "writer" is not even funny. And so on on many points. Information warfare and the correct presentation of material are needed, and such "enthusiasts" do more harm than good. Article minus.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 5 May 2014 22: 50
          -3
          Information warfare and the correct presentation of material are needed, and such "enthusiasts" do more harm than good.
          It is also necessary to see if such an enthusiast wants to bring us benefits. Or not for us. Half-truths are more difficult to recognize than outright lies.
          You are a plus. The article ... more precisely, the author’s writings is a fat minus.
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    4. jjj
      jjj 5 May 2014 16: 57
      +4
      Quote: DanSabaka
      And the MILLENNIUM OF RUSSIA was not celebrated by anyone.

      Even the monument was erected in the Kremlin of Veliky Novgorod. It is called - Millennium of Russia. The monument was opened at the behest of Emperor Alexander II of 8 on September 1862 of the year. It is curious, but Taras Shevchenko was deleted from the list of images of the great figures of Russia on the monument by the emperor and Nikolai Gogol was inscribed
      1. Barmal
        5 May 2014 17: 06
        +3
        in general, I agree with the author, and therefore suggested the article for VO. But small details - "We recently celebrated the 1000th anniversary of Russia. And when did it actually appear?"
        1000 years of Russia were celebrated a long time ago - in the 1862 year. 152 years ago. If he speaks of the baptism of Rus, then in 1988. Here the author dulls slightly, which casts doubt on the entire text.

        the meaning of the article is correct, it remains only to find out how to get out of the environment in this war of intellects.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 5 May 2014 17: 37
          +6
          Quote: Barmal
          the meaning of the article is correct, it remains only to find out how to get out of the environment in this war of intellects.

          What is most interesting is that, for example, at MSU in the history course they teach exactly what the author writes in this article !!! With some differences, of course, but on the whole everything is the same - the Slavic origin of Rurik, the much more ancient emergence of Slavic states, etc.
          The problem is that in our school all education is terribly outdated ... It's just that! I’m a biologist myself, and I can say with confidence that the biology that is taught at school is 40-50 years old at least! And friends from the physics department tell me the same thing about physics! All sciences are developing, ideas are changing, which means that the content of school courses should change, only the great Russian literature is eternal and unchanged! :) For obvious reasons ...
          Well, and separately about how school textbooks are written: the author of a new textbook is either well versed in one thing or in a relatively narrow circle, or has his own "special" opinion about something - this is what he writes about in detail and in detail (This is especially manifested just among the authors of history textbooks) And everything else that he does not know so well, he simply distorts from previous textbooks. As a result, there is a constant rehash of many old inventions of individual individuals and the spread of banal factual errors ...
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 5 May 2014 17: 10
        +4
        There is one subtlety that is not well understood, even by historians.
        I am writing from memory, I am out of town: in the PVL there is such a phrase: "and began to be called Rus".
        Everyone understands that from that moment Russia began.
        In fact, one must understand that for the first time, from that year, Russia began to be mentioned in Byzantine documents. And of course, Russia is not a thousand years old, but more.
        Unfortunately, there is no end to this error.
        1. Turkir
          Turkir 5 May 2014 17: 58
          +2
          It seems I remembered -
          In the summer of 6360, Michael began to reign. (Michael is the Byzantine emperor)
          Beginning to nickname Ruska land. (Correct understanding = Russian land began to be mentionedI am.)
          6360-5508 = 852 year.
          Misunderstood - it has become a thousand-year history of Russia 1000 + 852 = 1852
          In PVL, the phrase goes further - I don’t remember it by heart, but the meaning, I remember -
          Russia first fell into Byzantine (Greek - so in the annals) documents.
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 5 May 2014 17: 27
        +3
        A small clarification - during the period of the Empire, the pagan period of our history was frankly out of brackets and only the Christian period of the history of our country was taken into account.
      4. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 5 May 2014 17: 31
        +2
        I confess I did not know about this monument ....
      5. polly
        polly 5 May 2014 17: 41
        +5
        I was in the most ancient glorious city in 2009, the impressions are unforgettable. The Volkhov River, Ilmen ... But the feeling that you are at the origins of Russian civilization has intensified even more, concentrated at this memorial bell. Here is my most successful photo. "Baptism of Rus" at the Monument "1000th Anniversary of Russia" in Veliky Novgorod
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    6. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 5 May 2014 17: 16
      +2
      Yes. the same drew attention to this inaccuracy ....... In all other respects I agree ........ I recommend reading Medynsky's trilogy "Myths about Russia" ........ Everything is written in the same spirit. ......... We should be proud of Russia ...... Studying history .......
  5. johnsnz
    johnsnz 5 May 2014 16: 21
    +11
    Vain work - no, you will not understand them, -
    The more liberal the more they come
    Civilization is a fetish for them,
    But their idea is not available to them.

    As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
    You do not get recognition from Europe:
    In her eyes, you will always
    They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.
    FI Tyutchev
  6. i80186
    i80186 5 May 2014 16: 23
    +7
    Well, for example, from a textbook of Ukrainian history. They surpassed Rome unequivocally. smile
  7. todaygoodday
    todaygoodday 5 May 2014 16: 25
    +10
    It's time to cut propaganda to the fullest.
  8. Tarpon
    Tarpon 5 May 2014 16: 25
    +7
    ... our children open the textbook, and it drips from every page: enemies, enemies, enemies ...

    Of course, the government of the Russian Federation needs to give instructions to the relevant authorities so that they, together with public organizations, carefully edit all textbooks - the truth and only the truth.
    Power is in the truth.
  9. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 5 May 2014 16: 26
    +24
    Brothers, repost throughout Ukraine please.
    Maximize nationalization of the enterprises of the war criminal Kolomoisky in favor of the Donetsk People’s Republic and other territorial entities, otherwise he already doesn’t know where to put the money. You don’t need to burn anything, take everything in favor of the people, this will be the BIGGEST blow to the bastard. Urgently put your directors and chief accountants. This is fully justified by the laws of wartime. And also consider the possibility of nationalizing the property of other owners guilty of genocide of the people.
    1. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 5 May 2014 16: 59
      +7
      And leave the cash management services from Privatbank (the owner Kolomoisky is there too)! Take the money deposited there on deposits. And delay the repayment of loans whenever possible!
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 May 2014 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: Vyacheslav 64
      Maximize nationalization of the enterprises of the war criminal Kolomoisky in favor of the Donetsk people's republic and other territorial entities, otherwise he already does not know where to put the money

      Do you naively think that Kolomoisky pays his money for the capture of militias? You are mistaken, America provides him this money. A Jew will strangle himself for his money.
  10. Altona
    Altona 5 May 2014 16: 26
    +9
    The one who urges to repent, I always want to put a bullet in the forehead ... Because there are no living angels!
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 May 2014 16: 27
    +14
    Enough for Russia to fight the West.
    TIME TO WIN, and finish at last.
  12. Alexey N
    Alexey N 5 May 2014 16: 27
    +11
    What prevents Russian journalists, media and other involved in fighting and winning the information war? !!! Russia 24 often broadcasts Kiev desu !!! A shame!!! How many propaganda feeds in Russia? Where is your professionalism? One Rush Tudey is fighting.

    Verified Information:
    http://vk.com/donbass_res
    http://anna-news.info/taxonomy/term/7728
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 5 May 2014 17: 00
      +5
      All media are paid, and self-liberal are threefold, but there is nothing to say about the Western ones - they have constipation and obstruction about the truth. So finding an honest whit is very problematic. what
  13. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 5 May 2014 16: 29
    +13
    EXCELLENT ARTICLE. DO NOT HIDE THE TRUTH, AND TAKE OUR PRIDE FOR THE POWER, THERE IS NOT THE SECOND COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. GLORY TO YOU RUSSIA !. good good good drinks
  14. APS
    APS 5 May 2014 16: 29
    +3
    We need to include more episodes in school books with a detailed study of everything that happens and what happened before ...
  15. rugor
    rugor 5 May 2014 16: 29
    -3
    Quote: Tarpon
    ... our children open the textbook, and it drips from every page: enemies, enemies, enemies ...

    Of course, the government of the Russian Federation needs to give instructions to the relevant authorities so that they, together with public organizations, carefully edit all textbooks - the truth and only the truth.
    Power is in the truth.


    And where is the truth ??? No one knows.
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 5 May 2014 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: rugor
      And where is the truth ??? No one knows.

      read the new chronology of Fomenko and Nosovsky, they have the same story that is taught now at school, but presented differently!
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 6 May 2014 02: 56
        0
        That's it, and now all this is in the films, intelligibly and quickly. Not that 20-30 years ago, when there were some books and some of them are very rare.
  16. pts-m
    pts-m 5 May 2014 16: 29
    +3
    Yes, this information war and the belittling of RUSSIA’s actions in the life of the entire planet seem to be handy to some traitors in the government, because they have their loot in foreign banks and double passports. But as the people say, “how much rope there is no way to go it all ends!
  17. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 5 May 2014 16: 30
    +8
    each liberalist poke into this article a pig snout to the loss of memory ...
    1. mark7
      mark7 5 May 2014 17: 59
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      each liberalist poke into this article a pig snout until memory loss.

      I join, the article is excellent and by the way, there are minor inaccuracies, but we will not quibble over the main thing, that it is time for everyone to clearly contrast our propaganda to the West
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 5 May 2014 22: 57
        0
        the article is excellent and very helpfulthere are minor inaccuracies, but we will not find fault
        No really. Let's find fault with the militant ignoramuses. Until the last "patron". Otherwise, we will turn into a new version of the Great Breeds.
        The article is pretty old. I saw her more than once on different resources. This sugary nonsense travels and is reprinted time after time. If I remember correctly, then he was already hung out in the fall.
  18. SVD
    SVD 5 May 2014 16: 31
    +3
    Example 1: Recently we celebrated the 1000th anniversary of Russia.

    The author confuses: celebrated the Baptism of Russia! I didn’t read further ... If he doesn’t know this.
    1. Committee
      Committee 5 May 2014 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: SVD
      The author confuses
      he doesn’t confuse anything, they deliberately mix these two events, in school textbooks, for example, he came across this several times, they say he was baptized - Russia did not exist at all, and we climbed the palm trees (on the Christmas trees).
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 5 May 2014 22: 49
        0
        The author lies more than once. The Battle of Molodi was in Soviet textbooks (at least in the 80s), and in modern ones (though not all, but RECOMMENDED for teaching). It is even on such a low site as Wikipedia.
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 5 May 2014 22: 58
        +1
        they say before the baptism - Russia was not at all, and we climbed the palm trees (on the Christmas trees)
        The exact quote on this issue from the textbook to the studio !!!
  19. bulvas
    bulvas 5 May 2014 16: 34
    +8
    And in the end the most interesting:

    A country that has such a territory as Russia, which has managed to obtain and inhabit and preserve (although this was not entirely good, but I hope it will be better), such a territory, a country that has repeatedly saved Europe from different invaders,
    who then has the moral right to teach us how to live?
  20. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 5 May 2014 16: 36
    +11
    The information war is not being waged against those who, being in the mind, are surprised at delirium. She hits children first. The popularization of life behind a puddle appears in the form of beautiful pictures, films, a culture of consumption of various shiny tinsel and grub. Then, as an example to follow, the demeanor of the inhabitants of Harlem is given out to the broad masses. Behavior, dress, communication. For the refined layers, the world of expensive prostitutes. And bucks as the meaning of life. The main idea for the debauchery of consciousness: "money can not be earned. Money must be made. The previous generations are suckers who worked in factories that grew bread, and the funniest thing is that they served for beggarly pennies in degenerate law enforcement agencies and the army" .... And here are the crowds for you. drugged rogues who make money on the mass burning and dismemberment of living people from their own people. Children, that's where the front of the information war is.
  21. Yellow white
    Yellow white 5 May 2014 16: 36
    +4
    Vladimir Putin personally instructed that the return of Crimea home be added to the new history textbook, I hope there are many more that will be fixed.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 May 2014 16: 41
      +8
      Quote: Black and White
      Vladimir Putin personally instructed that the return of Crimea home be added to the new history textbook, I hope there are many more that will be fixed.


      I have a question that begs itself. The reward of Judas Gorbachev will also be included in history textbooks ?!
      1. nicollider
        nicollider 5 May 2014 16: 43
        +4
        one way or another, he entered his name in history.
      2. bulvas
        bulvas 5 May 2014 16: 48
        +6
        Quote: Apollon
        I have a question that begs itself. The reward of Judas Gorbachev will also be included in history textbooks ?!


        This is also a story, and it should be in textbooks.
        The more truth there is, the less will be the lie
    2. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 5 May 2014 16: 45
      0
      Did you personally dictate the text to him?
  22. zol1
    zol1 5 May 2014 16: 38
    +1
    https://secure.avaaz.org/ru/petition/Sovet_Bezopasnosti_OON_Vvesti_mirotvorchesk
    ie_voyska_Rossii_na_YugoVostok_Ukrainy /? aCazvhb


    Sign up for the entry into Ukraine of peacekeeping forces from Russia.
  23. mig31
    mig31 5 May 2014 16: 39
    +6
    Well what can I say, RUSSIA is big, strong, smart, courageous, successful, rich in mineral resources, etc., the West has never loved and will not love. A pug with a face of the West and an ELEPHANT RUSSIA, something incomparable, as a pug barked at an Elephant and will yap, our task is to bend our line ...
    1. kaa_andrey
      kaa_andrey 5 May 2014 18: 29
      +1
      The West is many-sided, there are many mosque, but more they resemble a flock of jackals and hyenas. Which strive to bark from all sides, and the smallest also bite.
      And they scatter at any movement of the elephant (Only a bear, they are more familiar with seeing us as an animal loving honey, or as Zadoronov says, the head of honey)
  24. mamont5
    mamont5 5 May 2014 16: 40
    +2
    "... where the West has always won and continues to win - in information wars."

    I do not agree. it was, but ... time is not right, the Internet does not allow to hide the truth. And if the enemy, as before, the first begins and ... in the end is fools.

    "Example 1, 2 .."
    An interesting hypothesis, but how was it really ..?

    By the way, the "gladiatorial battles of Rome", like many other things, were taken by the Romans at the dawn of their civilization from the Etruscans, who, according to some researchers, are also Slavic (or even Russian) people. Even the name of the people "Etruscans" is translated as "these are Russians".
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 5 May 2014 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: mamont5
      By the way, the "gladiatorial battles of Rome", like many other things, were taken by the Romans at the dawn of their civilization from the Etruscans, who, according to some researchers, are also Slavic (or even Russian) people. Even the name of the people "Etruscans" is translated as "these are Russians".

      I apologize, comrade, but do not smash the rubbish - the Etruscans cannot be Russian at all - the cultures are very different according to archaeological data, and then - did you see something similar to the bloodthirsty customs of Rome among the Slavs? So no one saw. The Romans rose on the unprincipled suppression and enslavement of other peoples (which is inherited by modern Western cultures)
      Quote: mamont5
      "Example 1, 2 .."
      An interesting hypothesis, but how was it really ..?

      Alas, there is very little evidence, but they all testify in favor of these two examples)
  25. kimanas
    kimanas 5 May 2014 16: 41
    +4
    You need to start with your own children I will give my read this article
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 5 May 2014 18: 11
      +2
      Quote: kimanas
      You need to start with your own children I will give my read this article

      That's it! As you bring up your children, you will get it in your old age, and this is also passed on to the future generation. I know and am proud that my ancestors fought and defeated the fascists in the 40s, and my children and nephews know about it. At one time I drew attention to computer games played by my son and was not surprised that Americans are everywhere. Both the fascists and the Japs, as if they were the only ones who beat the Mki (barrels based on M-16 and AP) and their equipment is "cooler", but all this is age-related (our soldiers are not fighting in an overcoat with a wooden belt now either). And now our story is online every day, and our "well-wishers" will not be able to do nichrome.
  26. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 5 May 2014 16: 41
    +3
    One should speak with "West" in a language it understands!

    It is pointless to discuss family trips, teambuilding, trekking, photo tours with a terrorist or fascist.
    We need to talk with him about the Special Forces Art!
    soldier
    1. Alexey N
      Alexey N 5 May 2014 16: 51
      +2
      And more often to hold seminars in the West on the topic: "The tragedy of artificial splitting of the atom" And then they began to forget
      1. Rubmolot
        Rubmolot 5 May 2014 17: 06
        +1
        Mndaaa ... "Seminar" about Chernobyl is still remembered by many ..
  27. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 5 May 2014 16: 42
    0
    The media should write the whole truth about RUSSIA and not lie. I think there are many more honest journalists in RUSSIA. They must do everything so that the people know the whole truth about their wonderful country. drinks
    1. kimanas
      kimanas 5 May 2014 16: 45
      0
      And where will they get this truth?
  28. nicollider
    nicollider 5 May 2014 16: 42
    0
    But this is not 1000 baptism of Russia?
  29. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov 5 May 2014 16: 44
    +3
    yes, whatever you say .. idiots rewriting history enough in our time ..
  30. Chemicalin23
    Chemicalin23 5 May 2014 16: 45
    +7
    Better yet, file a lawsuit with the Ministry of Education for spreading false information. Hire a good lawyer and hurt them to kick them - let it itch. But I have no money for the “good” one. Weakly throw off in the name of saving the honest name of their ancestors?
    Turning to the author - I am ready to support this idea financially, to the best of my ability. I think that there are many like me among us. I myself have long been interested in history, one that is not published in textbooks.
  31. olegkrava
    olegkrava 5 May 2014 16: 45
    +7
    Yes, do not kill and humiliate you Russian man, and you know why? Because he is a Russian person, not a Westerner. He can forgive, but also severely punish what all of Europe cannot do. They are used to killing, but if a Russian fist appears in front of their snout, why are they written, you can imagine even in non-erasable leggings.
  32. Neighbor
    Neighbor 5 May 2014 16: 45
    +6
    So after all, the Russians in our government, once or twice, have run out of things. And it's not for nothing that the "nationality" column was thrown out of the passport ... Now, minus.
    1. olegkrava
      olegkrava 5 May 2014 16: 48
      -1
      Here you get 3 pluses!
    2. nicollider
      nicollider 5 May 2014 16: 59
      +15
      stop Russian / non-Russian. can you count your ancestors to which tribe? I consider myself Russian, I have a wild mixture of both Tatars and Jews and Georgians along the way, Russians are those people who profess certain moral principles, culture. there is such a saying: scratch the Russian - you scratch the Tatar. So, even if we have a lot of Jews in the government, which you are probably hinting at, then if a person is a patriot and focuses precisely on Russia in his actions, then he is Russian. Well, if not, like our 5th column - then a suitcase-station-grantor
      1. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 5 May 2014 17: 16
        +11
        Quote: nicollider
        Russians are those people who profess certain moral principles,

        Yes, something like this sounds
      2. BSrazvedka
        BSrazvedka 10 May 2014 20: 41
        0
        I agree. The point here is not at all nationality.
        http://topwar.ru/46646-v-chem-principialnoe-otlichie-svidomyh-ot-moskaley.html
    3. nicollider
      nicollider 5 May 2014 17: 00
      +5
      Yes, the same Stalin.
    4. Barmal
      5 May 2014 17: 19
      +7
      Anatoly Wasserman - the most Russian person in our country
  33. Good cat
    Good cat 5 May 2014 16: 49
    +1
    Zadolbali, do not care about this information war, the West always knew better to lie, but it never saved him. Life quickly put everything in its place. Another depressing thing is that we begin to perceive this nonsense as the truth. Read the story and figure it out. The article is so-so in every subparagraph of an error, and so the bewildering "1-0 in favor of the West" why would it be?
  34. leo44
    leo44 5 May 2014 16: 50
    -9
    Quote: DanSabaka
    And the MILLENNIUM OF RUSSIA was not celebrated by anyone. Celebrated the 1000th anniversary of the Baptism of Russia. this is completely different, for even Rurik came to rule Russia much earlier.

    yes, after such mistakes, I don’t want to read further. but in general, grandfather Darwin said to all the CIC because everything came from monkeys. And why does the author recall other people's nonsense ?? you can also recall that the Earth is standing on whales fool
  35. Stump
    Stump 5 May 2014 16: 50
    +1
    There are more Russians in the government - and it seems like they are already thinking about new textbooks.
    let Europe stink to itself, wretched in their opinion, how could they grab the largest country in the world, more recently, a superpower? Lucky?) A normal person will immediately pay attention to inconsistencies.
    and Europe itself will soon have Arabs who don’t care at all about history) here they are wild and still have Europe. And we had. Clowns)
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 5 May 2014 19: 13
      +3
      Quote: Tree Stump
      More Russians in the government

      yeah such as Shoigu, Sergey Kuzhugetovich
      1. Stump
        Stump 5 May 2014 21: 34
        +3
        Well, by the way, he is more Russian than Medvedev) although you can’t say by name)
  36. APS
    APS 5 May 2014 16: 51
    +2
    I know that we have always been invincible, I intuitively understand that religion is kind of strange, because everything is needed to help, but here it seems not about us ... Or maybe we built the pyramids - we just forgot, or are envious " friends "helped to forget, which they could not take by force and I am sure they will never be able to take!" I think that we will eventually cope with this scourge and will definitely figure it out.
    1. BSrazvedka
      BSrazvedka 10 May 2014 21: 03
      0
      I don’t know about the pyramids, I won’t lie, but there is a version that seems to be based on some facts that the Egyptians have nothing to do with it. As for the fact that "everything is needed to help, but here it seems not about us ...", as one great sage said:
      "Any rule makes sense if it suits the interests of most people, and following useless rules is like following a recipe that doesn't cure shit."
      Of course we can handle it and figure it out!
  37. bubalik
    bubalik 5 May 2014 16: 51
    +2
    from Ukrainian info ,,,

    Ukrainian aviation destroyed an armored train near Slavyansk
    belay fool


    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3358430-ukraynskaia-avyatsyia-unychtoz

    hyla-bronepoezd-pod-slavianskom

    ,,, insanity grows stronger, soon submarines will begin to emerge ,,, wassat
    1. nicollider
      nicollider 5 May 2014 16: 52
      +1
      those. armored train?
  38. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 5 May 2014 16: 53
    +8
    Well, what do we want, the English king Henry VIII, executed 72 thousands of people (about 2,5 percent of the country's population) "for vagrancy and begging", including 3 of his wives, his daughter Elizabeth executed 100 000 people, but they are considered progressive rulers, and Elizabeth, so generally the mother of the English empire. In 1525, more than 100 thousand people were executed in Germany during the suppression of a peasant uprising. It was during the reign of Ivan the Terrible, from 1547 to 1584, in the Netherlands, which were ruled by the Spanish kings Charles V and Philip II, the number of victims reached 100 thousand! And it was, first of all, executed or died under torture "heretics". The French king Charles IX 23 of August 1572 of the year took a personal part in Bartholomew’s night, during which more than three thousand Huguenots were killed. For one night - about the same as for the entire time of the reign of Ivan the Terrible. But this is only one night. And in just two weeks, around 30 of thousands of Protestants were killed across France. The list of the glorious deeds of the European monarchs is continued by Ivan Vasilievich himself, in an interview with the English envoy who said: “They condemn me abroad that I committed a terrible crime in Novgorod ... But was the mercy of King Louis XI great, turning Liege to ashes and corruption and arras? Treason he severely punished. And the Danish lord of Christians plodded many thousands of people for treason ... "
    ... And the example of cruelty is the Russian tsar Ivan the Terribl, who was nicknamed Vasilyevich for cruelty, into whose kingdom only 4 000 (FOUR THOUSAND !!!) people were executed, and all of them were recorded in his Synodik, and the tsar regularly prayed for them and sent contributions to monasteries to commemorate their souls.
    1. staryivoin
      staryivoin 5 May 2014 17: 06
      +4
      So this once again repeats that we, thanks to the MINOBRU of RUSSIA, are losing one of the main battles. The battle for the future of the nation. The article was certainly a bit late on the VO website.
  39. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 5 May 2014 16: 54
    +3
    Wow! Earnestly! I’ve been saying for a long time, the school desk is all!
  40. Kibl
    Kibl 5 May 2014 16: 56
    +8
    That’s why censorship works in the USA and Europe, but it is banned in Russia? Here we have the 100th Satversme article (constitution) in Latvia, which prohibits censorship. In fact, the Russian television channels are shut down exactly on turnover, criminal prosecution of those who disagree with officialdom. Europe scotched, got out all sorts of scum that can not be cured, just chopped off like a gangrene limb!
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 5 May 2014 17: 01
      +5
      Dear GENE, in your country in Latvia they are preparing future SS men from schoolchildren, conducting such "lessons of courage", and this taking into account the fact that, by the decision of the Nuremberg court, the SS was recognized as a criminal organization responsible for numerous crimes against humanity:






      Mrs. Farion, it just so nervously smokes on the sidelines ...
  41. roman72-452
    roman72-452 5 May 2014 16: 58
    +1
    I read about the theory of the great state of the Slavs, I don’t know it’s quite possible it was. At least official history, archeology, anthropology are completely false and cannot stand criticism. In ancient times there was no linear history at all, it was invented in the "era of enlightenment", there were legendary examples like Soviet books Life of Remarkable People
  42. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 5 May 2014 17: 00
    +5
    The main role in the battle was played by a five-thousand-strong detachment of guardsmen under the leadership of Prince Voivode Dmitry Ivanovich Hvorostinin (? -1591).
    Defenders of Moscow completely slaughtered all the Janissaries and Ottoman Murzas.
    Russian soldiers forever eliminated the danger emanating from Crimea.
    But the oprichniks themselves under Molodi almost all died. In the fall of 1572, the oprichnina was officially abolished - in fact, because there were no more oprichniks left.

    They told us at school that the guardsmen fought exclusively with their people, i.e. were essentially punishers in the service of the king. Here is another lie. And in general, all of our Iztoria is written, as the Germans know, and this says a lot.
  43. tradizia
    tradizia 5 May 2014 17: 04
    +2
    Dear Alexander Prozorov!
    The article is great!
    But where are the names of our silent enemies?
    Specifically: full name; year of birth; nationality; marital status, address, photo ...
    And Atilla comes from my place.
  44. Baikal
    Baikal 5 May 2014 17: 06
    +11
    Well, the process has already begun.
    Take for example the work of Starikov. To be honest, after reading his book about Stalin (with numerous references to real documents, for the sake of interest, many of which he himself checked as he could) - I WAS SHOCKED.
    It was just HUMAN.
    And how much these facts differ from what they sometimes tell us about this person.
    I highly recommend reading it! The book is very interesting. We need to know that.

    "Stalin. Remembering Together"
    View here:
    http://nstarikov.ru/books/19273

  45. andj61
    andj61 5 May 2014 17: 06
    +3
    Why should Russia make excuses? After all, she is always right!

    Say about this no one else dares.



    Regarding Slovensk, this is at the level of a legend, but the legend is beautiful. Here Staraya Ladoga as a capital really existed several centuries before Novgorod.
    And with the rest - I completely agree. Stop belittling yourself!
  46. tasey
    tasey 5 May 2014 17: 07
    +2
    Interesting article, very interesting. And after all, a lot of what the author has already read, for example, about the "massacre" in Novgorod. This lord wrote that everything happened in the WINTER, and the guardsmen moved ... on boats. ON ICE?
  47. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 5 May 2014 17: 07
    +3
    Definitely, our ancestors lived and interacted on this largest continent in the world, called Eurasia. And this is a historical fact.
    And this has been happening for a very long time, so long that no one can even remember.
    And the fact that the West is trying to impose its worldview on us and create us, in the image and likeness (and simply to get rid of us, from our land bequeathed to us by our ancestors) and poison our brains with its poison, is a fact.
    But we have developed immunity to this poison, because we live in two mental dimensions, one official, the other in conscience and justice.
    That is, simply put, we have, for example, an official school curriculum on history, approved by submitting pro-Western anuslises (unfortunately, the family is not without a freak).
    But we either teach it formally (for a diploma) or don’t teach it at all, remember and evaluate the level of knowledge of history within the framework of the school curriculum at home and at younger generations.
    And the real history of our people is passed on to us by the older generations orally and in an informal setting. And the whole cunning plan of the pro-Western anus-leasing and their programmers with the logic of blockheads to turn us into "Buratino" flies like plywood over Paris.
    This is another simplest bummer for the West.
    As the character of one movie said:
    “What did you think of scaring me with your scumbags?” Will not work! I myself, such a scumbag ... laughing
    So that:

    wink laughing
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 5 May 2014 17: 14
      +1
      That is why Russia was, is and will be.
      And also because:

      laughing laughing tongue
  48. andron72
    andron72 5 May 2014 17: 07
    +2
    Damn these deer learned to wash yesterday. Ava say democracy, they are cattle fool
  49. mamont5
    mamont5 5 May 2014 17: 08
    +2
    "Bare-footed and bare-footed, poorly armed Roman infantry (open a textbook on the history of the ancient world, and admire the legionnaires) was worn down by cataphraktarii, chained in steel from tops to horses."

    Oh yo-yoy, what are you saying? It turns out the reason for the fall of Rome in the arsenal of Roman legionnaires? But this weapon allowed them to defeat almost all neighbors and create a huge empire. Perhaps the armament of the Roman legionnaires was not quite suitable for the battle with heavy cavalry, because their army was imprisoned under the European infantry, but the Romans quickly learned tactical innovations. So, for example, having met with Pyrrhus's fighting elephants and running in front of them, they quickly learned how to deal with them and later on the elephants did not scare them.
    The reason for the fall of Rome was the general decline of the empire, the ruin of the peasants, who were the main suppliers of soldiers for the legions of Rome and the transition in this regard to a mercenary army, including and from the barbarians. Plus, the mess of emperors, the pampering of the Roman nobility, who forgot about their duty to fight for their homeland and other pleasures.

    "You, comrades patriots, have been looking at the map for a long time? So where did the Huns come to Rome from? Why did they call" wild Russia "in Europe Gardarik - the Country of Cities?"

    What does the Hun and Gardarik have to do with it? Who are the Huns really is not known, it is quite possible that it was an alliance of different tribes, which almost fell apart after the death of its leader Attilla. And Gardarika really was, who is arguing with this.
    1. Barmal
      5 May 2014 17: 34
      +3
      maybe then we have nothing to worry about the Great Roman Empire and love exactly the Roman military aesthetics, if they were not armed in the best way in their time and "The reason for the fall of Rome in the general decline of the empire, the ruin of the peasants, who were the main suppliers of soldiers for the legions of Rome and the transition in this regard, to the mercenary army, including from the barbarians. Plus to this the leapfrog of the emperors, the effeminacy of the Roman nobility, who have forgotten about their duty to fight for their homeland and other pleasures. "

      The thing is that we do not love our story, because it is not in the format in which we want to love it. We got sick of "historically formed slavery in souls and minds" when they poke exactly serfdom in the face. With this very serfdom, coming from the "great" reformer Peter, Emnip, they saved Georgia, Armenia, freed themselves from Turkish influence in the south, and created the Fleet. If there was an economic need for this format of land tenure, then it would not be necessary to kill yourself like that against the wall. But we have liberal historians and the destruction of the autocracy for them is the only achievement of Russia. There are no other achievements, just shit.
      1. BSrazvedka
        BSrazvedka 10 May 2014 22: 40
        0
        Quote: Barmal
        the destruction of the autocracy for them is Russia's only achievement

        By the way, "Autocracy" is a Russian analogue and a synonym for the English word "sovereignty", which some pseudo patriots love so much.
        Well, what achievement are we talking about?
    2. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 6 May 2014 03: 16
      +1
      And having familiarized yourself with the history of Nosovsky and Fomenko, you will understand why there are many traces of Ancient Rome, but there are no traces of Rome closer in time to us at all. Could this really be? The logical answer is unambiguous. It's just that the falsification of the real history was carried out "strongly and qualitatively", destroying the real historical documents. It turns out that the real history of Rome is very, very short! In the modern sense.
  50. nicollider
    nicollider 5 May 2014 17: 09
    +2
    Russia has remained the only country with manned astronautics, only we can deliver people into space and return them alive. China man launched into space and even builds a station. but they are behind. so the base on the moon will be ours. Is this not a matter of pride?
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 5 May 2014 19: 53
      +1
      All this is true, captain. But ... let's not yet share the skin of Bender’s not killed)