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What Merkel will say and what Obama will not say

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What Merkel will say and what Obama will not say



The anti-Russian sidewalk of the West against Russia firmly sits on the belly. This made sure all without exception lovers threaten finger. It would seem that this should cool the hotheads, but the United States still continues to put pressure on the trigger: take out the sanctions and put it on!

It must be said that Merkel, with the word “sanctions,” is already experiencing stomach cramps. Thus, she plans to speak with Obama not on the topic of strengthening sanctions, but, perhaps, just the opposite. As it became known, Merkel will offer Obama a different approach to the problem named Putin. There are reasons for this, and quite large ones.

It is clear that nothing can be done with Putin. In all the years that Obama was in power in the United States, he never won a single set and constantly lost in his own serve. Putin holds himself tight in the saddle, and the people always support him. In addition, Putin managed, almost without words, to bend the now-former American Ambassador McFaul into an arc, who was not just some political scientist, but above all an obsessive Russophobe ideologue. It took about two years for the White House to understand that it was impossible to overthrow the butt with the whip, although everything seemed to be on the surface. Even before McFaul’s arrival in the United States, and even before being appointed as ambassador to Russia, we posted an article entitled “Michael McFaul. Wreck before takeoff. " As you see, we understood then how this would end. Now the exact same forecast for US and EU sanctions.

With a certain feminine flair, Merkel also “rode” to the thought of the futility of sanctions. We can say that Merkel would have to bring the “Restart” button to the American president, bearing in mind the need to restart Russia-US relations. President Obama himself also feels that the time has come for this reset, but he lacks the determination to put it in the information field. For this, a tactical move was invented: Merkel arrives, confers with Obama, and as a product of these meetings a new program of the “Goodwill of the West” appears. Here, Obama insures against American Republican political figures who, for concessions to Putin, will fight Obama like wolves of a sheep. If the decision is made together with the EU, then at least half of the criticism will go to Europe. Maybe it will sound strange, but Merkel’s visit to Washington needs to wait for a thaw in relations with Russia. Rather, Obama will have such a chance.

Very often in the media they say that the United States does not lose anything from sanctions against Russia. This is a deep misconception. When the basis for the analysis is only the amount of trade in $ 50 billion, and they say, Europe has more than $ 400 billion, then this does not mean that the US is willing to risk even these 50 billions. Paris won over 2 billion ready to listen to notations from Putin to infinity. While they are talking about "non-participation" in the sanctions of the French side until the autumn, until the Mistral surrenders, what will happen if Putin orders two more? Again, wait for two years of sanctions? In general, Putin understands well how to build relations within the EU, breaking the “monolithic unity” in the positions of the EU countries.

Western journalists, with some annoyance, speak of the full support of the Russians for Putin’s position. Nobody could re-educate the Russians. The one hundred thousandth demonstration on Red Square, dedicated to May Day, clearly shows that the Russians could not be re-educated.

The losses of the American administration were far beyond the limits of Russian-American relations. Remember Iran and Syria. There, Russia consolidated its positions with the interests of the peoples of these two states. Now, perhaps, all this is no longer on hearing, but only because Putin once propped up the door through which NATO troops would have to gush, Putin crossed the road to Obama and did not even apologize. As for Snowden, it's still worse.

As a result, Obama understands that autumn will be a real nightmare for the United States. Now, trying to align relations with Russia, Obama, perhaps for the first time, will try to look a little further than his own nose, and this is not his own insight. Such advice is given to Obama by the old fox Robert Gates, if someone has forgotten, this is Zbigniew Brzezinski's student, the one who, together with Brzezinski, dragged the USSR into the war in Afghanistan. Now he is heading a kind of analytical desk, which is developing some tactical steps for the United States, which should seriously worsen the economic situation in Russia. If Obama misses this moment now, then almost tomorrow everything will be a bloody nightmare and the collapse of US policy. In fact, some such initiatives are the prerogative of the State Department, but as you know, the current State Department is no good at all. Instead of a subtle political game, very often the State Department is counting on the Pentagon, but this is clearly not Obama’s choice.

Remember how many times it has been stated that Iran will be subjected to military execution, but Obama did not decide on a military campaign, despite the fact that Israel was promised that Iran would be attacked after some intersection of the "red line". However, nothing happened. Now even Israel has understood all the vain hopes for Obama. No need to think that Obama somewhere hovering above the clouds and soaring there, not being able to ascend, but not falling. This is absolutely not true. According to the Americans, Obama lost the initiative, and the sworn friend of Vladimir Putin, John McCain, also speaks about this. In any case, he always calls the Russian president "friend Vlad." So, in order to climb the political Olympus again, Obama needs an initiative, he sees it in concessions to Putin as an impossibility to oppose Russia with serious sanctions. The thing is that then he will lose the support of his closest allies in Europe, and this is already a failure not only in Russia, but also in Europe.
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  1. Gloria45
    Gloria45 5 May 2014 11: 27
    +44
    PLEASE LOOK AT ALL AND TRANSFER NEXT !!!!!
    I throw in all the articles.
    http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html
    1. JoylyRoger
      JoylyRoger 5 May 2014 11: 33
      +8
      Thank you friend!
      Already posted on Facebook and his LJ
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 5 May 2014 11: 35
        +3
        It's wonderful. And the browser shows "fig" to me request .
        1. Gloria45
          Gloria45 5 May 2014 11: 37
          +3
          How Odessa residents were killed in the House of Trade Unions - details of the scenario ...
          poprobujte vot tak
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 5 May 2014 13: 20
            +8
            hi
            The current situation has clearly shown who is who for Russia.
            Russia, as the successor to the Russian Kingdom and Empires, has restored its current actions and intentions. status quo the other pole in the unipolar world, which arose largely due to the efforts of the overseas “partner” after the well-known sad events of the beginning of the 90's.
            Becoming, at the same time, we will not point a finger (!), For some - an ardent partner, for others, offended - a duty vest and hope for justice.
            Therefore, the jokes are over and the irony is not appropriate.
            And EVERYTHING that provides a confident and worthy state of Russia in its new geopolitical position is appropriate ...
        2. gas113
          gas113 5 May 2014 12: 57
          +5
          You are from Kazakhstan. Here LJ is blocked. Dad doesn't order
        3. Lyubimov
          Lyubimov 5 May 2014 12: 57
          +4
          Judging by the flag, you are from Kazakhstan, and our livejournal is chopped off, it's sad.
          1. northern
            northern 5 May 2014 14: 25
            +3
            put Opera, watch the pages in "turbo" mode, use anonymizers, it's not difficult at all.
        4. Igmail
          Igmail 5 May 2014 13: 04
          +2
          Try it here:

          http://blog.t30p.ru/post/Kak-ubivali-odessitov-v-Dome-Profsoyuzov-detali-scenari
          ya-18.aspx
        5. aksakal
          aksakal 5 May 2014 15: 56
          +2
          Quote: Wiruz
          It's wonderful. And the browser shows "fig" to me

          - Livjournal is blocked in our Republic of Kazakhstan laughing The lack of democracy has small costs that can easily be overcome by mirroring, but it’s tedious to clog in the search engine, you find a good mirror that works ...
        6. aksakal
          aksakal 5 May 2014 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: Wiruz
          It's wonderful. And the browser shows "fig" to me

          - Livjournal is blocked in our Republic of Kazakhstan laughing The lack of democracy has small costs that can easily be overcome by mirroring, but it’s tedious to clog in the search engine, you find a good mirror that works ...
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 5 May 2014 11: 33
      +3
      And what should we see there? The page is not available.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Little Muck
        Little Muck 5 May 2014 11: 46
        +8
        Quote: Wiruz
        And what should we see there? The page is not available.

        Everything works and shows. This is about the killings in Odessa. hi
        This must be sent around the world. Wherever possible.
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 5 May 2014 11: 49
        +2
        Everything opens!
      4. scientist
        scientist 5 May 2014 12: 05
        +3
        It looks like this site http://frallik.livejournal.com was blocked by Kazakhstani providers. Who knows how to get around?
        1. tokin1959
          tokin1959 5 May 2014 12: 51
          +1
          anonymizer Chameleon - type in a search engine
        2. Zenturion77
          Zenturion77 5 May 2014 14: 03
          0
          try to see here
          http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/690116.html?thread=35566532#t35566532
      5. The comment was deleted.
      6. Igmail
        Igmail 5 May 2014 13: 07
        0
        http://blog.t30p.ru/post/Kak-ubivali-odessitov-v-Dome-Profsoyuzov-detali-scenari
        ya-18.aspx
      7. comprochikos
        comprochikos 5 May 2014 13: 07
        +16
        Looking at the photo, everything is absolutely obvious. Here you don't even need to be a forensic scientist to understand that people were driven into a prepared trap and brutally killed, the inhumans on the upper floors. And if even after such an obviousness of the crimes of the Nazis, the "authorities" will deny this and sculpt everyone with an exaggerated investigation, then this will already go beyond human understanding and any human morality. All these criminals must be destroyed at the root like EVIL. am
      8. Stepnyak
        Stepnyak 5 May 2014 17: 18
        +1
        went all shows
    3. Little Muck
      Little Muck 5 May 2014 11: 36
      +12
      What Merkel will say and what Obama will not say.
      Like what?
      Merkel:
      - Akhtung! Achtung! Theirs is capitular!
      Nervously stuffing his stockings into his mouth. laughing
      Obama:
      -And I'm generally white and fluffy!
      Greasing his face abundantly with sour cream, sprinkling himself with feathers and darning a torn well ... u. wassat
      1. avg
        avg 5 May 2014 12: 23
        +7
        Quote: Little Muck
        What Merkel will say and what Obama will not say.

        I don’t know what Merkel will say, but I know for sure that this Frau Stsuka is still the same.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 5 May 2014 13: 56
          +4
          Quote: avg
          Quote: Little Muck
          What Merkel will say and what Obama will not say.

          I don’t know what Merkel will say, but I know for sure that this Frau Stsuka is still the same.

          what can I add ...?
    4. Canep
      Canep 5 May 2014 11: 38
      +4
      LiveJournal in Kazakhstan is blocked, anonymizers too. Can't be laid out elsewhere? And what is there at all?
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 5 May 2014 11: 44
        +41
        Natalia Poklonskaya begins to act !!! The Majlis was the last to be shown at the station, at best, 15 years or for life.



        Well done commander of the prosecutor's office!
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 5 May 2014 11: 53
          +11
          Ah well done !!! It's time to put the freaks in the corner!
        2. aleckbond
          aleckbond 5 May 2014 11: 57
          +11
          Good girl !!! Keep it up.
        3. maxxdesign
          maxxdesign 5 May 2014 12: 16
          +12
          he understood everything! if I really didn’t understand, I wouldn’t yell like that ...
        4. gfnhbjnrf
          gfnhbjnrf 5 May 2014 12: 49
          +6
          There is nothing more to say, the behavior is more of a woman than a peasant. He does not understand the Russian language.
        5. tasey
          tasey 5 May 2014 15: 32
          +3
          To such creatures as Chubarov, of course, one must come with a translation into their language. "Durka" always knew how to include such - just that: "I do not understand (do not understand well) in Russian!"
          1. Thompson
            Thompson 5 May 2014 19: 47
            +2
            Come on? Stop playing democracy! If I pretended I didn’t understand, his problems! Will study Russian in depth in other places!
        6. Foe
          Foe 5 May 2014 15: 56
          +2
          well done prosecutor.
        7. salamandra2826
          salamandra2826 5 May 2014 18: 53
          +3
          Oh, Mr., he already has only the Crimean Tatar state language, and Russian is not the state language. Correct: tomorrow at 10 it will be on the native protocol. On the native protocol it will be sweeter to sound
        8. uzer 13
          uzer 13 5 May 2014 20: 09
          +1
          The moron has not yet realized that he is in Russia.
      2. Gloria45
        Gloria45 5 May 2014 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: Canep
        LiveJournal in Kazakhstan is blocked, anonymizers too. Can't be laid out elsewhere? And what is there at all?

        Maybe in my contact? Julie caporal
        There are details of the tragedy in Odessa.
        1. Igmail
          Igmail 5 May 2014 13: 06
          0
          Try it here, same article.

          http://blog.t30p.ru/post/Kak-ubivali-odessitov-v-Dome-Profsoyuzov-detali-scenari
          ya-18.aspx
    5. Blot
      Blot 5 May 2014 11: 48
      +5
      Threw it off to everyone !!! Everyone must see it ...
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 5 May 2014 12: 01
        +6
        I got such a text in my head when I saw this show Obama Merkel smile She already burns herself from this Obama and he also crushes his forehead through force, realizing that he imposed sanctions on all sides, and Merkel should understand that this whole show works more against Europe and Ukraine than against Russia and that the states Europe is not put in anything. It’s time to realize that our continent is much more important than one of the ganster banking America
        1. zzz
          zzz 5 May 2014 14: 37
          +1
          This morning, on the way to work, I listened to the news of our correspondent in the USA. To conduct FM, Merkel asked not to be heard, which Obama refused, moreover, interestingly, this correspondent tells how she was present there.
          1. wolf7
            wolf7 5 May 2014 15: 48
            +2
            Let her consult Putin on how to do this ... And in return, do not apply sanctions good
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    6. Fucknato
      Fucknato 5 May 2014 12: 14
      +6
      Quote: gloria45
      PLEASE LOOK AT ALL AND TRANSFER NEXT !!!!!
      I throw in all the articles.
      http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html

      Placed wherever I could !!!
    7. Army1
      Army1 5 May 2014 12: 46
      +12
      Quote: gloria45
      PLEASE LOOK AT ALL AND TRANSFER NEXT !!!!!
      I throw in all the articles.
      http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html

      I will express my opinion; let it seem crazy to someone.
      If the GDP is silent, then everything will be like with Yugoslavia, only now I'm afraid worse.
      Most likely he is waiting for the holidays to take place on May 9th. The junta just needs us to send troops, it will immediately call on NATO, but there is no turning back, Russia needs to show what it is like, otherwise it’s the end. Do not be afraid of anything, we have a strong army and a powerful nuclear arsenal. Nobody needs a war, many of course have the right to say: So smart yourself fight! They’ll call me to go. But the army and the army. Everything has gone too far.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 5 May 2014 14: 15
        +7
        .... I think your participation will not be needed ... Two battalions of volunteers - Crimeans with full forcemeat are already on the road .... The guys are all grated and very angry, run in hot spots and other places ...
        1. istomin36
          istomin36 5 May 2014 16: 55
          +1
          Two battalions of volunteers - Crimeans with full forcemeat are already on the road
          - I'm afraid this is fake when promised and still do not have them ...
      2. staryivoin
        staryivoin 5 May 2014 17: 37
        +2
        A colleague agrees completely. There are two options: either by breast protection of the ONLY WORLD of TRUTH, or by substituting the head under the NATO collar. They won’t wait for the second, we haven’t been brought up since childhood !!! I’m always ready for the first option, if only they wouldn’t argue at the top with some .... xn.
    8. Hamul
      Hamul 5 May 2014 12: 55
      +3
      In the photo with a pregnant woman strangled - strangeness - the cabinet is intact, but the doors were burned. The question is HOW? and WHEN killed?
    9. anfil
      anfil 5 May 2014 14: 37
      +10
      I watched all this horror, but it was even more terrible to read some of the comments of the children who make their hair stand on end.
      Who did we bring up ?!
      I am not a supporter of war, but looking at all the horror and animals in human guise, the idea is increasingly coming up that the whole world needs such an apocalypse so that the whole earth is washed like in the spring flood.
      Remembering their youth, people were not such animals, although they did not live very well. We didn’t have children of such atrocity, although we were fighting a team at a team, but we couldn’t beat the lawyers.
    10. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 5 May 2014 15: 35
      +5
      Placed on mailra, already received three messages, one with threats, two with accusations that we are zhvadchiki and in general are guilty of all this.
      That's how dear friends twenty years of education in a separate sovereign country and such "progressive" results.
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 5 May 2014 16: 54
        +3
        evil is approaching ... clip disco accident ... watch for everyone who has not seen
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzVpcuxlYIc
    11. kare
      kare 6 May 2014 01: 36
      0
      Thank you Julia
  2. Wiruz
    Wiruz 5 May 2014 11: 27
    +11
    "Russians are coming" - Obama will soon say and jump out of the Oval Office window laughing.
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    2. Aryan
      Aryan 5 May 2014 11: 36
      +7
      What will Merkel say and what won't Obama say?
      I'm not black * opposites bully
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 5 May 2014 14: 48
        +3
        What will Merkel say and what won't Obama say?
        Merkel understood and understands that sanctions against Russia will boomerang on Germany itself: it's scary to say what will happen if the export of gas or - which is no less important for Germany - oil from our country suddenly stops. Both take up more than one third of all supplies of the corresponding energy carriers, and in the time of the "energy revolution" and the withdrawal from the use of atomic energy, special hope is pinned on new gas power plants. While the President of the Central Bank of Germany Jens Weidmann, answering the question of "RG", tried to reduce the economic importance of Russia for Germany (they say, financially, no catastrophes due to sanctions can threaten, and the share of its exports in the trade does not exceed the value of Poland ), experts from the Eastern Committee of the powerful lobbying union "German Industry" warn against the very hard-hitting consequences of economic sanctions.
        Commentators in the FRG understand that the leader of the conservative CDU / CSU bloc Angela Merkel is not Gerhard Schroeder, who said a firm "no" to the war in Iraq. Because of this, the relationship between the US and Germany has long been considered badly damaged. Merkel initiated a "reconciliation" phase, giving the United States an opportunity to polish its image after the NSA scandal, which she, in turn, successfully released on the brakes, and regain its seemingly lost leading role in NATO.
        Thanks to Angela Merkel, transatlantic unity has been restored again. The United States, which the economic sanctions will obviously not harm at all, forced the once most popular woman in the world to say yes. However, this "yes" still sounded not very confident. There are still differences in the positions of Washington and Berlin on the Ukrainian crisis. While Obama praises the Ukrainian government without any "buts", Merkel is much more cautious in her assessments. Obama calls the pro-Russian forces "an instrument of Moscow," Merkel is wary of any assessment.
        Whether Merkel will be able to slow down further and how seriously her promise to Obama is still not clear. At the moment it is clear that the Americans managed to use the Ukrainian crisis for their own purposes. Having broken the resistance of Merkel, Obama received "carte blanche" in NATO and the European Union. It remains to wait, about which German industrialists and moderate forces in the German government and parliament will talk with Angela Merkel upon their return.

    3. comprochikos
      comprochikos 5 May 2014 13: 13
      +3
      I would rather. At least one good deed will be done for humanity to the end.
  3. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 5 May 2014 11: 34
    +11
    Something I did not see on the face of the German chancellor of human compassion for dying peaceful people in Ukraine. On the contrary - joyful smiles. Everything is clear with Obama; in principle, he cannot blush for his policy. But where does this girlfriend go? In Germany, the endorsement of Nazi actions is the path to the revival of German fascism. Mankind did not know a more terrible period in its history.
    1. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 5 May 2014 12: 15
      +5
      Quote: Stock Officer
      Something I did not see on the face of the German chancellor of human compassion for dying peaceful people in Ukraine. On the contrary - joyful smiles. Everything is clear with Obama; in principle, he cannot blush for his policy. But where does this girlfriend go? In Germany, the endorsement of Nazi actions is the path to the revival of German fascism. Mankind did not know a more terrible period in its history.

      I agree. The optimism of the author is hard to understand. It was not Obama and Merkel who made the decision - not according to their (especially her) words and to judge the future. Moreover, continental Europe is completely independent. (Absolutely nothing depends on it!) The maximum possible for Germany is to negotiate a less painful participation in sanctions for transnational corporations ...
    2. gfnhbjnrf
      gfnhbjnrf 5 May 2014 12: 51
      +2
      And you will never see anything human in such people. For this, first of all, they must be human
  4. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 5 May 2014 11: 35
    +27
    And the Germans, meanwhile, continue to burn ... The next release of the German program "Maddom", the same one in which the last time so successfully laughed at the Maidan ...
    1. Natrix
      Natrix 5 May 2014 12: 55
      +5
      Very harsh humor! Do the French have something like that? They are also not offended by wit.
    2. Papania
      Papania 5 May 2014 13: 28
      +2
      Tough, but in the subject. Well done!
    3. Papania
      Papania 5 May 2014 13: 28
      0
      Tough, but in the subject. Well done!
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 5 May 2014 15: 06
      +2
      Great video, thanks! Don't they have a lot of "freedom of speech"? laughing
    6. Labrador
      Labrador 6 May 2014 00: 30
      0
      There are still healthy people in Europe and it pleases
  5. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger 5 May 2014 11: 36
    +4
    The split between the EU and the USA.
    1. comprochikos
      comprochikos 5 May 2014 13: 17
      +6
      Europe has so far turned its backside to us. But soon this ass will be exposed and Russia will use it for its intended purpose. laughing
      1. Shaki's memory
        Shaki's memory 5 May 2014 19: 07
        0
        comprochikos  Today, 13:17 ↑

        Europe has so far turned its backside to us. But soon this ass will be exposed and Russia will use it for its intended purpose.


        That is, will put an enema? Or a "magic" pendal ???
    2. comprochikos
      comprochikos 5 May 2014 13: 17
      0
      Europe has so far turned its backside to us. But soon this ass will be exposed and Russia will use it for its intended purpose. laughing
  6. Name
    Name 5 May 2014 11: 37
    +7
    "US Senator: US Sanctions Against Russia Lead to Strengthening the Russian Economy"- And the Germans also know how to count money, because without a small 6000 German enterprises in Russia, not to mention the Russian-German contracts in which about 300000 people are involved.
    [b] With regards to RUSSIAN, - RUSSIANS IN TROUBLE ALWAYS TOGETHER! Ukraine RUSSIAN UNITED! [/ B]
  7. Berkut-UA
    Berkut-UA 5 May 2014 11: 38
    +8
    And who believes Obama?
    After all, he always lied like a gray gelding.
    He lied about almost everything.
    He lied both to his people inside the country and to the whole world - in other countries.

    And the Oval Office is on the first floor.

    But if "accidentally" stolen Ukrainian MANPADS find themselves on the way of the presidential plane approaching the airport ...
    It will be interesting to read the news ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 May 2014 12: 48
      +3
      Quote: Berkut-UA
      And who believes Obama?

      Biden and Victoria Nuland and this terrible one, as she sits there at the UN.
  8. alexng
    alexng 5 May 2014 11: 40
    +6
    The United States drove into a dead end, and themselves. And the funny thing is that the entrance failed. In short, an ambush and a large western smelly bzdyk already looms.
    1. Name
      Name 5 May 2014 13: 23
      +4
      That's for sure:


      Here it is - gently and ... will bear fruit.
  9. Palladium900
    Palladium900 5 May 2014 11: 41
    +7
    Obama should look like this.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 5 May 2014 15: 10
      +3
      Obama saw your post and wept laughing The fate is terrible!

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/026/efwr106.jpg
      1. Palladium900
        Palladium900 5 May 2014 16: 10
        +1
        After the events in Odessa, hatred and contempt for America and Obama rolls over. PS The same photo, a different angle.
    3. wolf7
      wolf7 5 May 2014 16: 06
      +1
      almost cadaffy
  10. johnsnz
    johnsnz 5 May 2014 11: 44
    +5
    Obama, repent and I will forgive you .... maybe
  11. shinobi
    shinobi 5 May 2014 11: 47
    +7
    I don’t remember in which article one Western analyst (by the way, Gates seems to be) on the fingers explained why the EU will not go beyond scary words. I briefly said this: If after the sanctions the losses for the Russian Federation will be conditionally 1,5 trillion, it will be difficult for it, but the Russian Federation will survive it. The loss of even 1 trillion for the EU would be fatal. Merkel certainly promises a lot of things and makes appeals. But as soon as the German industry and business giants remind who the boss is in the house, the lady sat on the ass exactly. And without the EU, sanctions go to the category of pug and elephant.
  12. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 5 May 2014 11: 47
    +6
    Quote: Wiruz
    Russians are coming "- Obama will soon say and jump out of the Oval Office window

    "Since childhood, I did not like Oval! I drew an angle since childhood!" smile
  13. Border guard
    Border guard 5 May 2014 11: 48
    +4
    This is what I do not understand ... Why did Kiev yesterday withdraw its troops from Kramatorsk and other settlements? Why are the same checkpoints seized and immediately given away? .. The impression is that this is foreseen in advance so that everything burns as long as possible. If so, then everything is clear that only the United States needs this to further discord the EU and Russia. Or am I mistaken? .. Maybe the locals are clearing the territory for the referendum "without Kiev pressure"? People with guns are driving out soldiers in armored personnel carriers and helicopters ?? ... no, I can't believe it ..
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 5 May 2014 12: 15
      +6
      Quote: Border Guard
      This is what I do not understand ... Why did Kiev yesterday withdraw its troops from Kramatorsk and other settlements? Why are the same checkpoints seized and immediately given away? .. The impression is that this is foreseen in advance so that everything burns as long as possible. If so, then everything is clear that only the United States needs this to further discord the EU and Russia. Or am I mistaken? .. Maybe the locals are clearing the territory for the referendum "without Kiev pressure"? People with guns are driving out soldiers in armored personnel carriers and helicopters ?? ... no, I can't believe it ..


      Apparently, they simply do not have enough strength. After all, in order to keep the captured checkpoint, you need to leave a reliable garrison there, and then you need to keep in touch with this garrison, supply it with power supplies and products, but they don’t have this opportunity. They scraped as much as they could and now paint a picture of a fierce battle. We drove up, shot, often at unarmed people, the militia retreated. The Ukrovsky Armed Forces reported that everything was in order, they were advancing, an important object was taken, and drove to the next block post. And at night they again departed to the starting ones, where they gained a foothold. It seems that they are afraid of a night battle even theoretically.
      1. Border guard
        Border guard 5 May 2014 12: 27
        +3
        So like the troops are not small, there are dozens of armored personnel carriers near Slavyansk. Put even 3 armored personnel carriers, illuminate the surroundings at night and that's it. So no ... and do not try to hold. Depart BEFORE the militia.
      2. sovety
        sovety 5 May 2014 13: 33
        +3
        Everything is correct. This is not a regular army, it is just militants in a stolen military uniform. They can still partisan, they were not taught to fight, hence the appropriate tactics. And the operation against civilians by and large resembles punitive raids by "historical heroes" of these villagers.
      3. comprochikos
        comprochikos 5 May 2014 14: 11
        +1
        Maybe time is dragging and playing on the nerves. They are waiting for our intervention or NATO.
    2. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 5 May 2014 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Border Guard
      Why are the same roadblocks taking over and immediately giving up ?.

      Yes, what you said very noticeably. I think that they simply accustom people to blood, apparently large and brainless. Kill your own, you still have to get to this. The events in Odessa are proof of this. Especially in the context of this view.
      http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html Тренируют солдат и всех кто ещё в сознании.
      The army was not yet ready. But, as they say, the key word is for now. Come in, shoot, single victims, come out. An informational background is created and it intensifies, the sense of blood and the army’s involvement in it intensifies.
  14. doctor
    doctor 5 May 2014 11: 48
    +3
    Black-footed monkeys will soon be asking Putin what to do and what to do.
  15. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 May 2014 11: 49
    +7
    Putin with the Golden Ruble will practically hammer a nail into the lid of the United States coffin, the West understands this, is already playing big and not trifling.
    As you know, even a small rat being cornered attacks, and America is a very BAT RAT.
    1. qwert
      qwert 5 May 2014 12: 07
      +2
      Yes, not even gold, but oil and gas. If only the Russian oligarchs did not play for the wrong side. You can expect everything from these
    2. Name
      Name 5 May 2014 14: 52
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      Putin with the Golden Ruble will practically hammer a nail into the lid of the US coffin, the west understands this,

      This is already understood from the last:"The European economy may suffer if new sanctions are imposed on Russia," Deputy Head of the European Commission Siim Kallas, acting European Commissioner for Monetary and Financial Affairs, said at a press conference on the spring statistical forecast of the European Commission.- a riot is coming on a "ship", in the literal sense:

      seehttp: //vz.ru/news/2014/5/5/685274.html "... every sane European should oppose the introduction of new sanctions against Russia, since their consequences will affect the European Union as well." bully
  16. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 5 May 2014 11: 49
    +2
    Sanctions against Russia ... this is a road to nowhere ... smart politicians understand this ... BUT the US and its allies have already joined this game.
    It’s just that no country will leave the sanctions regime ... we need a serious reason ... it is possible to blame the Kiev authorities for something ... they say we didn’t imagine ... or anything else.
    The fact that the United States is suffering economic losses and it hurts ... we remember well from the simple example of the ban on the import of "Bush's legs" ... a trifle BUT the authorities were pressured by the union of producers. Such restrictions under the auspices of (eh, sorry Onishchenko is not on duty) violations of production rules can be introduced now.
    The Germans, of course, are more oriented towards our economy ... maybe Merkel will in some way convey to the USA and the rest of Europe the need for a milder version of sanctions ... BUT Germany also condemns ... and also joined the sanctions regime ... just trying to divide the economy and politics.
    The West will not stop pressure on Russia ... Ukraine in this case is just an excuse.
  17. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 5 May 2014 11: 50
    +4
    Will Obama and Merkel together "celebrate" the defeat of German Nazism in World War II?
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 5 May 2014 12: 43
      +2
      Rubmolot
      Will Obama and Merkel together "celebrate" the defeat of German Nazism in World War II

      Merkel's father was a priest - he studied theology at the universities of Heidelberg and Hamburg. He took part in the creation of an internal church educational center. For a long time he led a college for pastors and occupied a prominent position in the Lutheran church of Berlin-Brandenburg. Kassner belonged to representatives of that part of the church that was not in opposition to the GDR government and the SED policy regarding the church. Died in 2011. So I underestimated my child!
      She now probably Obama periodically absolves sins!
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  18. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 5 May 2014 11: 52
    +1
    Obama only smile and can. still get all the rubbish with a smart look. Against GDP, he is weak, like most Western politicians.
    1. Fin
      Fin 5 May 2014 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: FC Skiff
      Obama only smile and can. still get all the rubbish with a smart look. Against GDP, he is weak, like most Western politicians.

      Yesterday, at a reception in the White House, he blurted out another nonsense. When asked about Putin allegedly striving for a Nobel Peace Prize, he answered that now they give this prize to anyone. Probably forgot what they gave him.
  19. Angro Magno
    Angro Magno 5 May 2014 11: 54
    +2
    Western journalists, with some annoyance, speak of the full support of the Russians for Putin’s position. Nobody could re-educate the Russians. The one hundred thousandth demonstration on Red Square, dedicated to May Day, clearly shows that the Russians could not be re-educated.


    I won’t tell about Western journalists, and our human rights activists claim that Putin’s people turned away and the collapse of the bloody regime will take place the other day. So, some are seriously preparing to celebrate democratic mobility.
    1. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 5 May 2014 12: 33
      +2
      and who claims this? Makarevich? Or Novodvorskaya toad?
      1. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno 5 May 2014 14: 11
        0
        Almost guessed. Borovoy.
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  20. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 5 May 2014 12: 01
    +5
    So in general, interesting information to think about.
    But do not flatter yourself, because all the most interesting is ahead.
    According to all Russian media, there was a message that German Chancellor A. Merekel and US President B. Obama jointly support all the actions of the Kiev gang.
    And there are facts that NATO is conducting active military intelligence on the situation in Ukraine. And he is preparing for a possible invasion of the territory of Ukraine, the reason why the invasion has not yet taken place, is the lack of a legal reason for its implementation. There are also additional, internal problems for the heads of these countries, these are the sentiments of the majority of the population of Germany and the USA against the war.
    This is especially clearly manifested in Germany, where in addition to ordinary people, representatives of the business class are also opposed, among whom there are far from poor and influential people among German society. And already against their opinion, Chancellor Merkel, it will be almost impossible to go ahead without breaking, because in which case, she could easily lose her job.
    Also, as a result of the introduction of the so-called sanctions against Russia, many unemployed people may appear in the Federal Republic of Germany, and then Merkel and her political circle will surely come soon KIRDYK.

    In the United States, such people also probably exist, but there are much fewer there, unfortunately.

    You should not believe that the governments of the FRG and the USA hold different views on Russia, if there is a difference, then only in the details. In general, there is no difference.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 5 May 2014 12: 07
      +4
      Wanderer_032 (1) SU  Today, 12: 01


      ,,, but there is no faith for them ,,, they are just waiting for a reason from Russia, and so they are already in my opinion ready to send their troops ,,,,

      Moscow, May 4 - AIF-Moscow. Italian Defense Minister Roberta Pinotti said that her country, if necessary, is ready to send peacekeepers to Ukraine in order to maintain stability, La Repubblica newspaper reports.

      The largest spring storm military exercise in Estonia’s recent history, involving about 6 of thousands of troops from a number of NATO countries, will be held from 5 to 23 in May, the headquarters of the country's defense forces said.


      ,,, and ships for good reason ,,,
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    3. Akvadra
      Akvadra 5 May 2014 13: 23
      +1
      When did these reptiles need a legal reason for invasion?
      They’ll lie to themselves and give rockets and bombs to women and children !!!
  21. vovan50
    vovan50 5 May 2014 12: 04
    +4
    And what can Merkel say if she also signed the Chancellor-Act?
    The “Chancellor Act” is a secret, carefully concealed from the Germans and the rest of the world, a document that forces the relevant government of the Federal Republic to act on the instructions of the Allies to support their version of the Second World War, ignoring the benefit and interests of the German people. This act is part of a secret state treaty of 21 in May of 1949, by which the Allies guaranteed themselves, among other things, full control over the media in the Federal Republic until 2099. The “Chancellor Act” is a document that until today every German federal chancellor must sign before taking the oath. This is nothing more than a statement by the German authorities about obligations towards the allies - in particular, towards the United States.
    Against this background, it becomes clear that the Federal Republic of Germany is not a sovereign state, but, at best, can be referred to as a “union” structural component, controlled from the United States. The allies simply squeeze everything out of what is called the Federal Republic of Germany, but in such a way that its population does not notice this and does not resist arbitrariness. The sale of German firms abroad, the transfer of state-owned utilities to foreign investors, the sale of supply lines, the alleged return of works of art stolen by the German occupiers, the abandonment of German gold reserves, military support of American imperialism - this and much more completely deprives the FRG of real sovereignty.
    Is it possible in such conditions to consider the Second World War completed? Is today the Federal Republic of Germany a sovereign state? Or is it a territory under the Anglo-Saxon yoke?
    Because of the complete secrecy of this issue for the Germans remains unresolved. But, the more the secret essence of the collusion between the allies and the German government under its control becomes public knowledge, the more urgent the need for the German people to resolve this issue.
    National states, national cultures are a powerful obstacle to the self-appointed masters of the world, and therefore they have declared a merciless war against the world oligarchy. The first to fall into these millstones of a total and ruthless war in the 20th century were the German and Russian nations. As a result, Germany, with all its economic power, remains a political pygmy to this day.
    The Chancellor-Act itself has not yet been made public, there is only a mention of it in other official documents. But all the secret sooner or later becomes apparent. One of the official references to the existence of this act comes from the bowels of the secret service of Germany "Bundesnachrichtendienst" (http://www.bnd.de/)
    1. andj61
      andj61 5 May 2014 14: 22
      0
      What about Germany’s position on Iraq? There was no unconditional support for America’s actions! And some points in the activities of Brandt, Schmidt, Kohl went beyond the interests of the United States. Something here does not quite fit together.
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 5 May 2014 20: 46
        0
        Quote: andj61
        What about Germany’s position on Iraq? There was no unconditional support for America’s actions!


        At that time they were still "playing" at "democracy" for the world public, but for the FRG in those days a different task was assigned. And besides, the FRG has its own "players", the US has to reckon with them.
  22. Roman1970
    Roman1970 5 May 2014 12: 05
    +2
    Possessing a certain feminine flair, Merkel also "reached" the thought of the futility of sanctions.

    Women's flair has nothing to do with it. Merkel is a competent politician and understands that it is easier to destroy a business with Russia than to restore it later. She has to agree with Obama, but she always makes reservations like "we don't want this." Hopefully common sense will make you forget indulging Americans.
  23. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 5 May 2014 12: 08
    +13
    Quote: gloria45
    PLEASE LOOK AT ALL AND TRANSFER NEXT !!!!!
    I throw in all the articles.
    http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html

    Now the spouse will finish the transfer, I will send friends to the USA, to Canada and Italy, they will multiply according to their ...
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 May 2014 13: 11
      +4
      Now the spouse will finish the transfer, I will send friends to the USA, to Canada and Italy, they will multiply according to their ...
      Madly plus.
      If you can still track the reaction of their readers ...
  24. LIS 25
    LIS 25 5 May 2014 12: 10
    +1
    GDP to steer soldier keep it up.
  25. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 5 May 2014 12: 11
    +1
    ))) damn it made the girl garbage toil, looked what is on the aglitsky version ...
  26. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 5 May 2014 12: 12
    +1
    She can hardly say anything without his order.
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  28. Same lech
    Same lech 5 May 2014 12: 23
    +2


    RIGHT KILLS ODESSA .... nits ... no words.
  29. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 5 May 2014 12: 25
    +2
    Quote: Palladium900
    Obama should look like this.

    Yes Obama is a pawn here. They rule the gray cardinals and the oligarchs. He acts as a sign on the window.
  30. Yellow white
    Yellow white 5 May 2014 12: 27
    +1
    Yes, he.r.a. with two they will succeed !!!
    Proven, verified and ... this is just the beginning
    How is Peter doing? "At the beginning of glorious deeds"!
  31. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 5 May 2014 12: 35
    +4
    It is necessary to lay out all the material for Odessa on the websites of the US Congress, the White House, and send it to the addresses of each senator and congressman! To do the same in Europe! Do not forget Makarevich and his friends on the march!
  32. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 5 May 2014 12: 37
    +2
    Binary, deceitful, inhuman - depicted in the photo.
  33. Giant thought
    Giant thought 5 May 2014 12: 39
    +3
    The article was a little late, Merkel and Obama poured out another batch of anti-Russian rhetoric. They were, are, and will be enemies. From this postulate it is necessary to build a relationship with them, and not to find their smiles and pats on the shoulder. We know how much poison they have prepared and are ready to splash into our bowl, as soon as we gape.
    1. andj61
      andj61 5 May 2014 14: 26
      0
      Quote: Thought Giant
      The article was a little late, Merkel and Obama poured out another batch of anti-Russian rhetoric.


      In my opinion, they did it just at that moment when the tragedy erupted in Odessa. Or am I wrong?
  34. leo44
    leo44 5 May 2014 12: 47
    0
    I must say that Merkel is already experiencing gastric colic with the word "sanction". Thus, she plans to speak with Obama not on the topic of strengthening sanctions, but, possibly, just the opposite.
    Oh well. Looks like a business press. Perhaps in Russia there are lovers of beh and other German concerns - they’re pushing to see through their channels. It is not clear what the article is about - especially against the backdrop of hostilities with the deaths of civilians? And what does the author not negotiate? If he knows, then what is shaking?
    As it became known, Merkel will offer Obama a different approach to the problem named Putin. There are reasons for this, and very large.

    Quote: 1812 1945
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Something I did not see on the face of the German chancellor of human compassion for dying peaceful people in Ukraine. On the contrary - joyful smiles. Everything is clear with Obama; in principle, he cannot blush for his policy. But where does this girlfriend go? In Germany, the endorsement of Nazi actions is the path to the revival of German fascism. Mankind did not know a more terrible period in its history.

    I agree. The optimism of the author is hard to understand. It was not Obama and Merkel who made the decision - not according to their (especially her) words and to judge the future. Moreover, continental Europe is completely independent. (Absolutely nothing depends on it!) The maximum possible for Germany is to negotiate a less painful participation in sanctions for transnational corporations ...

    Yes, the article did not add optimism, but that someone wants a new behu, perhaps Prokhor, I do not know who, but there are suspicions.
  35. Turk
    Turk 5 May 2014 13: 02
    +1
    Quote: Aryan
    What will Merkel say and what won't Obama say?
    I'm not black * opposites bully
  36. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 5 May 2014 13: 08
    +1
    It looks like Obama’s chase has begun, but he does not know how to get rid of it. The Foreign Ministry has furnished the State Department. as children, they no longer know what to say. Obama is in a deep puddle and pulls Merkel there. But the Rockefellers, the Rodschilds and others like them set them up.
  37. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 5 May 2014 13: 12
    +1
    Merkel already said. Hopes did not materialize ...
  38. 2014ya.ru
    2014ya.ru 5 May 2014 13: 19
    0
    Quote: Roman1970
    Possessing a certain feminine flair, Merkel also "reached" the thought of the futility of sanctions.

    Women's flair has nothing to do with it. Merkel is a competent politician and understands that it is easier to destroy a business with Russia than to restore it later. She has to agree with Obama, but she always makes reservations like "we don't want this." Hopefully common sense will make you forget indulging Americans.

    Political prostitute ...
  39. ya.alksndp
    ya.alksndp 5 May 2014 13: 20
    +3
    Quote: Bayonet
    It's time to put the freaks in the corner!

    yes
  40. mig31
    mig31 5 May 2014 13: 25
    +1
    Yes, the lady is not pleasant, in every way ....
  41. zol1
    zol1 5 May 2014 13: 43
    +1
    And to us after everything that happens in Ukraine, after the masks of virtue are torn from wolf faces, do we need this? That the West will become good and never show its ghoul essence? America and Geyropa jumping in front of her (lest Mosk @ li) will never be our friends! It’s time to change and clearly guide the way in world politics!
  42. 2014ya.ru
    2014ya.ru 5 May 2014 13: 57
    +1

    Western journalists say with some annoyance that Russians fully support Putin’s position. No one was able to re-educate the Russians. The one hundred thousandth demonstration on Red Square dedicated to May Day clearly shows that the Russians could not be re-educated. And they will never succeed! Really not convinced yet, really do not know our history?
  43. msv
    msv 5 May 2014 14: 07
    0
    Quote: vovan50
    And what can Merkel say if she also signed the Chancellor-Act?
    The Chancellor-Act is a secret document that is carefully hidden from the Germans and the rest of the world, which forces the corresponding government of the Federal Republic to act on the orders of the Allies, to support their version of World War II, not paying attention to the good and interests of the German people. ......
    The Chancellor-Act itself has not yet been made public, there is only a mention of it in other official documents. But all the secret sooner or later becomes apparent. One of the official references to the existence of this act comes from the bowels of the secret service of Germany "Bundesnachrichtendienst" (http://www.bnd.de/)


    A piece of paper is worthless. I think that you just need to look at commodity circulation between the USA and Germany and the share of American capital in the German economy. And everything should immediately fall into place.
  44. Goha
    Goha 5 May 2014 14: 08
    0
    So Merkel showed all her inconsistency as a politician.
  45. denkastro
    denkastro 5 May 2014 14: 38
    0
    Quote: zol1
    And to us after everything that happens in Ukraine, after the masks of virtue are torn from wolf faces, do we need this? That the West will become good and never show its ghoul essence? America and Geyropa jumping in front of her (lest Mosk @ li) will never be our friends! It’s time to change and clearly guide the way in world politics!
    I agree with you. But what we need is time. Now measures are being taken across Ukraine in the whole spectrum. Next, there will be its own payment system and the international currency fund of the BRICS countries (not a dollar one). By then, the army should rearm significantly. Well, and how the final move is the abandonment of the buck in state accounts. After the economy leaves the dollar orbit, a lot should change. Well, along the course of all these movements in the internal space, steps should be taken to develop food safety, develop infrastructure, etc. The deal is bad. But it’s not bad without good. For example, due to sanctions, it will be necessary to develop a high-tech sector for import substitution. Well, in general, somehow. Sincerely.
  46. andj61
    andj61 5 May 2014 14: 39
    +1
    One question needs to be answered: who benefits? It was clear to everyone that this provocation was announced and paid in advance by the Ukrainian Natsiks (Parubiy, Tymoshenko, Yarosh, the Odessa governor and others like them, the leadership of the Odessa police). This is evidenced by the joint actions of the police leadership and provocateurs with St. George ribbons and red tape on the sleeves! But not everything went according to their scenario. The Nazis were uncontrollable.
    And then begins the madhouse!
    Yatsenyuk instructs the prosecutor general to conduct a criminal case (the prosecutor general - from the Freedom party - is impartial?) And immediately points to the Russian trace - what is an impartial consequence. Right-wingers succeeded in getting people who escaped from the fire - everyone saw it, they themselves uploaded a video with comments! Girls bottling Molotov’s cocktail - and immediately throwing these bottles at the union house - this video is also online! And these girls have already been identified - it's right-wingers!
    Those who survived were immediately accused and locked up in the bullpen without even having any honey. help, they were released only as a result of mass popular protests, and the policemen who killed people, burned them, fired at them directly from the street, the police who were right there didn’t even notice! But there is a video! If people in the House of Trade Unions had at least ONE machine gun, then these animals would be thinned out pretty much! But they had no weapons at all!
    And where do you hide comments on the network of law-enforcement officers involved in the killings? Find them now is very simple - it would be a desire. But the Ukrainian junta has no such desire.
    And now they suck out a Russian trace from a finger!
    And then you will see: the geyropa and n and n wasps will support them!
    Frankly: when the mess started in the Crimea - a referendum, etc. - I was scared, although I wholeheartedly supported ours. After all, the Americans could react quite hard, and our economy is rather weak.
    Now I am scared that our leaders may not respond.
    No one can forgive this!
  47. Akulina
    Akulina 5 May 2014 15: 05
    0
    If God is with us, then who is against us? .....
  48. Kibl
    Kibl 5 May 2014 15: 24
    +2
    There are no adequate leaders in the West, all the mongrel have piled up and the leader for some reason is an eared monkey! Some kind of nonsense, a macaque leads the dogs! Darwin spins in a coffin like a propeller!
  49. Dezinto
    Dezinto 5 May 2014 15: 32
    0
    I, too, was already amazed at how merciful Merkel was before the eared, and they reminded me:

    The contingent of US troops in Germany is 70 thousand. The American air base in Ramstein and the airfield in Spangdahlem alone employ 28 Germans. The United States is estimated to spend at least 3 billion euros per year on maintaining its bases in Germany.

    Sometimes foreign military bases are perhaps the only source of replenishment of the local budgets of German cities. Washington is well aware of this and, on occasion, skillfully use it as an instrument of pressure on Berlin. At the peak of the confrontation between Germany and the United States on the war in Iraq, Washington threatened the Germans with the withdrawal of part of the bases in Eastern Europe and achieved the desired result: the burgomaster panicked in vain to predict an “economic catastrophe” for their cities.

    So it goes.
  50. Papania
    Papania 5 May 2014 15: 35
    0
    Obama and Merkel bring to trial for Odessa. If they did not rush with the fascists there would be no House of Trade Unions. E ... and .. m .. ...............