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US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk

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Correspondents of the American newspaper The New York Times admitted that they did not find evidence of Russian participation in the events in Ukrainian Slavyansk, where they spent about a week.


US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


The publication they prepared on the basis of their stay in Slavyansk says, in particular, that “Western official representatives and the Ukrainian authorities insist that they lead the militants, they are organized and supplied by the Russians.”

Nevertheless, the authors of the article, who actively communicated with the soldiers of the 12 of the Slavyansk people's militia, are forced to admit: “The rebels serving in the 12 of the company turned out to be Ukrainians, who, however, had close ties with Russia, including related like many in eastern Ukraine. Many of them are veterans of the Soviet, Ukrainian or Russian army. " At the same time, journalists noted that the rebels have enough combat experience in order to cope with their duties without the participation of the Russian military, and not in the way "as stated by officials in Kiev and in the West."

The newspaper writes that, as confirmation, the militias of Slavyansk showed them their weapon. "They said that if Russian intelligence had helped them, they would have more modern weapons, and not the outdated ones that we saw at checkpoints or in places where the company is located," the journalists said.

They pointed out that "the same weapon was seen in the Ukrainian soldiers, special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine": Makarov pistols, Kalashnikov assault rifles, several Dragunov sniper rifles, on which they saw stamps stating that they were made back in 80 or 90. years of the last century.

May 2 Ukrainian troops attempted to assault Slavyansk. According to his militiamen, all roadblocks along the perimeter of the city were massively attacked. In this case, helicopter support was used. Losses are on both sides.
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http://www.interfax.ru/world/374755
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  1. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 4 May 2014 15: 47
    +55
    yes who would doubt ....
    it’s only a pity that no one will hear these journalists ....
    1. voldmis
      voldmis 4 May 2014 15: 48
      +70
      US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


      How, didn’t you find the Russian trace ??? And there were no bears with balalaikas? Now these zhurnalyugi will be left without a salary! And they will take away the license.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 4 May 2014 15: 52
        +19
        Quote: voldmis
        How not to find ??? After all, they will remain without a salary!

        You can’t find a little! It’s necessary to tell loudly in the West! And they’ll probably not create it!
        1. voldmis
          voldmis 4 May 2014 15: 53
          +10
          You can’t find a little! It’s necessary to tell loudly in the West! And they’ll probably not create it!


          Yes, that’s right, that’s right. Even up to half way to the western screens this information will not reach.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 May 2014 16: 58
            +18
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            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 4 May 2014 17: 12
              +20
              PMOP "Berkut" stronghold of the country's tranquility !!!
              WE BREAK THE INFORMATION BLOCKADE.

              Send similar messages with photo-video material to citizens of America and Europe via social networks or look for mail addresses! We must really fight in the information war in order to convey the truth to the public opinion of Western countries! If each of you sends out 100 letters, but only in our group of 150 people, It will be good!

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              1. vladstro
                vladstro 4 May 2014 17: 58
                +5
                And not such torchbearers were pressed in Berlin in the 45th, and these banderlogs only from the mention that the Russians were coming up, they would put on their full pants and run home, but there was still no time to see it.
                1. Stalker
                  Stalker 4 May 2014 19: 37
                  +8
                  Bandera is standing on the square where there are a lot of people, shouting: - Who does not ride that! No one is jumping, a man pats him gently on the shoulder and says: “Comrade, this is Moscow, that's all.” Bandera wakes up in a sweat - Well it must be a dream. laughing
                  1. Slavich
                    Slavich 4 May 2014 20: 02
                    +4
                    --- "Comrade", here are all Russians ....

                    And when they hear it in Lviv, then it will be possible to say - Now it’s good!
                    1. scientist
                      scientist 4 May 2014 20: 53
                      +7
                      It is very annoying that, with all the obvious US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, where the CIA actually controls the Kiev junta and as a result of hundreds of victims among Ukrainians, a brutal and cynical information-psychological treatment of the population is under way with a blockade of the main Russian and opposition information resources in Kiev and with all that while Russia still has to make excuses !! Sorry, but before whom? Now from the Kremlin you can only hear about the problems of gas transit to Europe and the uncertain skirmish of Vitaly Churkin in the UN Security Council and the condemnation of the killings.
                      I consider this a big mistake and hypocrisy. Enough to prove to the whole World, it is not clear that, well, they don’t want to hear us. Therefore, we need real statements and immediate action on the situation in Odessa and the South-East.
                      1. Tough sanctions against Kiev, including blocking gas to Europe, seizing accounts and businesses of Ukrainian oligarchs and American companies, expelling diplomats.
                      2. Clear and direct material and technical support for the liberation movement in southeastern Ukraine, including military advisers.
                      3. To knock out with the help of the Ukrainian militia and the Golden Eagle from there all the armed forces controlled by Kiev and the creation of border control areas at the borders.
                      4. Ensuring the holding of a referendum and the formation of a people's government.
                      That’s how I understand tough, adequate and symmetrical measures. Everything else is weakness and chatter. And with the wimps, the West, and especially the United States, will never sit at the negotiating table, and if they do, then the agreements will be cheaper than Geneva toilet paper, which does not need proof.
                    2. 1812 1945
                      1812 1945 4 May 2014 21: 24
                      +4
                      Quote: Slavich
                      --- "Comrade", here are all Russians ....

                      And when they hear it in Lviv, then it will be possible to say - Now it’s good!

                      Yes. Yes sir. And the "soft" variant of cleaning up Ukraine, especially Galicia - alas - is no longer possible. A cancerous tumor, until it kills the body, is removed entirely. To have time to prevent the spread of metastases!
                      1. dimedrol_1313
                        dimedrol_1313 4 May 2014 21: 38
                        +5
                        Yes, there, along the way, it is necessary to import new youth. Because the one that is is completely fascist. 23 years do not pass without a trace. These are completely different people, or rather non-humans. All in one hole and keep forty years, so that choked in their own d ... me
                      2. Trit Nakosh
                        Trit Nakosh 4 May 2014 22: 24
                        +2
                        It's like in the old joke "... wash these, or make new ones? ..." ©
                    3. 1812 1945
                      1812 1945 4 May 2014 21: 53
                      +2
                      I almost forgot! The main thing is that overseas pigs do not run away from Kiev (and where else did they get there? ...), but die themselves from the infection that they brought to Ukraine! - Lead neoplasms in their forehead! (Their beloved student - Yaytsenyukh on mundan requested.)
              2. RAA
                RAA 5 May 2014 00: 01
                +2
                At the demonstrations in Moscow in support of Bandera there were many Russian fascists and they feel comfortable.
              3. 77bob1973
                77bob1973 5 May 2014 00: 14
                +2
                One thing is not clear to me - Canada is here under what matters?
            2. Turkir
              Turkir 4 May 2014 19: 03
              +1
              Thanks for the info. This is the right direction. Totally agree with you.
            3. Sergey777
              Sergey777 4 May 2014 20: 39
              0
              I posted it on my facebook and sent the link to another good person
            4. Gloria45
              Gloria45 4 May 2014 21: 21
              +6

              Journalists of Channel 5 were kicked out of Odessa live 0
              1. Iskander Khan
                Iskander Khan 4 May 2014 22: 37
                +3
                It is a pity that they were not burned live.
                1. Reks
                  Reks 5 May 2014 00: 02
                  +2
                  am Faces of Ukrainian fascism
              2. Reks
                Reks 5 May 2014 00: 07
                +2
                Faces of Ukrainian fascism am
                1. Shaki's memory
                  Shaki's memory 5 May 2014 01: 43
                  0
                  http://loboff.livejournal.com/441689.html

                  everything is said ...
            5. The comment was deleted.
            6. Gloria45
              Gloria45 4 May 2014 22: 09
              0
              Thanks for the video, already acting! soldier Here's another French version ...
            7. Zaslavsky-S
              Zaslavsky-S 4 May 2014 22: 10
              +1
              All have forgotten!! They even call their coat of arms a trident! Falcon attacking! Seal of Rurik, the founder of the Russian royal family! Not just a Slav, but Rosich !!! Shame and shame on you, brothers Ukrainians!
              1. vlad.svargin
                vlad.svargin 5 May 2014 07: 43
                0
                Zaslavsky-S (2)
                All have forgotten!! They even call their coat of arms a trident! Falcon attacking! Seal of Rurik, the founder of the Russian royal family! Not just a Slav, but Rosich !!! Shame and shame on you, brothers Ukrainians!

                They act like the Germans in the last century, using the symbolism of our ancestors of the Slavs-Aryans or the crusaders-conquerors, the symbols of Christianity to destroy the Slavs in Europe. This is true Pharisaism, characteristic only of the Europeans, the descendants of the Crusaders. So these, pupils of the West, all their statements and actions resemble a degraded predator, until they meet strength. They like a pack of hyenas attack only when there are a lot of them and against unarmed or women
            8. builder
              builder 4 May 2014 22: 30
              +4
              I posted the video in the Los Angeles Times (in the comments to the article)
              http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-crisis-20140503,0,5618938.stor
              y # vcomment
              1. sleepy
                sleepy 4 May 2014 23: 24
                +1
                Here is another list of videos for users from Western countries.

                "List of Nazi attacks in Ukraine.
                In order to plug the throat especially ardent Khokhlov-Nazis and Svidomo,
                when they will argue that everything is democratic in their country now,
                and we are being brainwashed by V. Putin and the Russian media. More than 60 pieces. "
                https://www.fl.ru/commune/drugoe/5000/blogi/8685267/spisok-natsistskih-vyipadov-
                v-ukraine.html? bp = 3

                "Supporters of" Euromaidan ", for various reasons, which we will leave to the judgment of their conscience, prefer to insist on a blue eye,
                that "euromaidan" is a de-secular, magnanimous collection of confessors of the most European and civilized values ​​in the world.
                And the Bandera and neo-Nazis, and even as the driving core of the "revolution", are nothing more than the brazen fruit of the unhealthy fantasy of the "Russian propaganda machine" designed to trample and discredit the noble European aspirations of non-foreign Ukrainians. "
                http://peternor999.blogspot.ru/2014/03/blog-post_3532.html
                1. builder
                  builder 4 May 2014 23: 33
                  +1
                  Thanks for the links, take advantage
          2. cosmos111
            cosmos111 4 May 2014 18: 04
            +10
            from here:
            http://politobzor.net/show-20256-zhertvy-odessy-byli-ne-naprasny-fashistam-ne-zh
            it.html

            "" "The US is buying Ukrainian journalists in bulk ... The US authorities have announced the allocation of an aid package in the amount of $ 1,2 million to support the activities of Ukrainian news agencies, Agence France Presse reported on Saturday night.

            except, Bandera ifo .. mercenaries and so on .. homo .. sec, in Ukraine with their own people, no one wants to fight ....
        2. mamont5
          mamont5 5 May 2014 06: 42
          +1
          Quote: voldmis
          You can’t find a little! It’s necessary to tell loudly in the West! And they’ll probably not create it!


          Yes, that’s right, that’s right. Even up to half way to the western screens this information will not reach.


          Slowly the information comes. It was the same after Georgia. First, the shaft of negativity. Then sprouts of truth erupted. And finally reluctantly, the West was forced to admit the obvious.

          So now.
          "
          U.S. Secret Service veterans urge Obama to regain mutual trust with Putin to resolve conflict in Ukraine

          Nine former employees of the CIA, FBI and US State Department sent a joint memorandum to Barack Obama urging him to mend relations with Vladimir Putin to find joint ways to resolve the conflict in Ukraine. "
          http://russian.rt.com/article/30594
      2. avg
        avg 4 May 2014 21: 24
        +1
        Yes, that’s right, that’s right. Even up to half way to the western screens this information will not reach.

        Though on the Internet on blogs, etc. will post. Gradually, the truth should break through.
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck 4 May 2014 16: 04
      +14
      Quote: voldmis
      Now these journalists will be left without a salary! And they will take away the license

      Well. Again the army of unemployed in the USA is growing. wassat

      "The stone flower does not come out in any way" Obamka yelled drawn out and strainedly, bulging his eyes from the strain while sitting on the toilet. laughing
      1. dimedrol_1313
        dimedrol_1313 4 May 2014 22: 20
        +1
        “The stone flower doesn’t come out in any way,” Obamka yelled long and strainedly, bulging his eyes from the strain while sitting on the toilet. ”The main thing is to enter well, as the Donkey from Winnie the Pooh said:“ But how good it is. ” wassat
    3. I do not care
      I do not care 4 May 2014 16: 22
      +13
      Quote: voldmis

      How, didn’t you find the Russian trace ??? And there were no bears with balalaikas? Now these zhurnalyugi will be left without a salary! And they will take away the license.

      laughing
      Poorly searched, or ofigel from what they found
    4. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 4 May 2014 16: 32
      +1
      let them write the truth, not heresy.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 4 May 2014 16: 45
        +29
        A message from Odessa to the FB, it MUST BE read: Igor Rozovskiy Hello, my name is Igor Rozovsky, I am 39 years old, I live in Odessa. For 15 years I have been working as a doctor in the ambulance service. Yesterday, as you know, a terrible tragedy happened in our city, some people killed others. They brutally killed - burned alive. Not intoxicated, not for the grandmother’s inheritance, but because they do not share the political views of the nationalists. At first they beat him severely, then they burned him. As a doctor, I hastened to help those who could be saved, but the militants stopped me, preventing me from approaching the wounded. One of them rudely pushed me away, promising that the same fate would await me and other Odessa Jews. I saw a guy who could be saved if I could take him to the hospital, but all the persuasion ended with a blow to my face and loss of points. For 15 years I saw a lot, but yesterday I wanted to cry no, not from pain or humiliation, but from powerlessness, to do something. In my city, something happened that did not happen even under the fascist occupation. I wonder why the whole world is silent?
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 4 May 2014 16: 59
          +6
          As a doctor, I hastened to help those who could be saved, but the militants stopped me, preventing me from approaching the wounded. One of them rudely pushed me away, promising that the same fate would await me and other Odessa Jews
          Action is not cheating. All honest Ukrainians should rush to help the self-defense of the DPR and Lugansk, only together we can crush the bloodthirsty junta! am
        2. Alex 241
          Alex 241 4 May 2014 17: 15
          +6
          In Odessa, to the court where the Nazis are going to make a trial of those who survived in Odessa Khatyn, they are being pulled together by internal troops.
          1. Iskander Khan
            Iskander Khan 4 May 2014 22: 39
            +5
            I think the inhabitants of Odessa will remember what they were given to Hero City.
        3. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 17: 32
          +23
          Quote: platitsyn70
          I wonder why the whole world is silent?

          And why immediately after this tragedy, 20-40-200 thousand of Odessa residents did not come out onto the streets of Odessa? Why are the "pravoseki" still "walking" around Odessa? Why didn't Odessans “torn them for parts?” Do you hope for “peace”? "The world" is far away, but fellow citizens are near. It is not comprehensible to my mind: in a European, one might say, country in broad daylight on the streets of the city they kill, burn old people, women like flies - and all this is welcomed by "people's choices"; "statesmen" of Ukraine! And the leaders of the United States, the European Union "with understanding approves!" Yes, these are NOT PEOPLE! These "zombies" are bloodthirsty than cinematic ones.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 4 May 2014 19: 05
            +3
            I ask myself the same question and I have no answer.
            I agree with you.
          2. coserg 2012
            coserg 2012 4 May 2014 20: 24
            +3
            So I also think that the hero city of Odessa and the hero city of Kiev turned out to be weak compared to the hero cities of Sevastopol and Kerch.
            1. kombat58
              kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 37
              +5
              I am from Sevastopol. And I’ll tell you that during the fight they are not in a hurry with conclusions.
              ONCE!
              But after the picnic and listen to your opinion, hasty.
              1. igor.borov775
                igor.borov775 5 May 2014 05: 29
                0
                Quote: kombat58
                I am from Sevastopol. And I’ll tell you that during the fight they are not in a hurry with conclusions.
                ONCE!
                But after the picnic and listen to your opinion, hasty.

                I absolutely agree that this is not the time. The report has begun. We will still find out what most people think and do who did not know and did not go anywhere. They made a choice for them in Kiev,
              2. coserg 2012
                coserg 2012 5 May 2014 20: 23
                0
                Many years to you, and please do not forget to remember this at a picnic.
            2. kombat58
              kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 37
              0
              I am from Sevastopol. And I’ll tell you that during the fight they are not in a hurry with conclusions.
              ONCE!
              But after the picnic and listen to your opinion, hasty.
          3. aleks 62
            aleks 62 5 May 2014 10: 01
            0
            ...Yes Yes!!! Kharkov and Donetsk can also be listed here ... After all, the cities are million people, and hundreds of protesters or a little more ...
        4. irina.mmm
          irina.mmm 4 May 2014 18: 07
          +2
          This is not the scenario that the West needs. On Monday, the EU IS AGAIN GOING FOR SANCTIONS-RUSSIA DOES NOT FULFILL THE WIFE AGREEMENT i.e. dormant
        5. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 4 May 2014 18: 08
          +3
          Quote: platitsyn70
          For 15 years I saw a lot, but yesterday I wanted to cry no, not from pain or humiliation, but from powerlessness, to do something.

          This doctor has a clear conscience. He is doing his duty. His business is to heal, to save. To extinguish evil is a debt of honor of other people ... But, for "prudent" abstinence, the debt grows!
        6. wanderer987
          wanderer987 4 May 2014 20: 45
          +2
          The world is not silent, we stubbornly do not want to hear. Today I wrote an appeal to the US Congress and attached a photo with my comments (very harsh) of the burned people in your union house. The special services have already started working against me from the mobile phone. Information seems to have been taken off completely.
          I express my deepest condolences to Odessa!
          I hope for emergency military assistance from my Russia!
        7. Tavalin
          Tavalin 4 May 2014 21: 12
          +1
          And the world, the one that is silent, is ruled by the Antichrist ... Why should he lie to the king of lies - is it true ???
        8. aleks 62
          aleks 62 5 May 2014 09: 58
          0
          ... And what is "Peace" ??? ... A bunch of greedy and miserable uro ... s for whom the lives of Russians do not mean anything ... The whole history of this "world" speaks about it ... That is why he is silent ... With quiet gloating he watches, hoping to tear them apart in the future ... Just like a pack of wild mongrels ...
    5. yushch
      yushch 4 May 2014 16: 50
      +1
      Bears with balalaikas were supplied with vodka to the eyeballs and sent to the forest so that the hut would not be fired)).
    6. jktu66
      jktu66 4 May 2014 16: 55
      +1
      Now these zhurnalyugi will remain without a salary
      Drive such journalists from the New York Times! How dare they call the president the framework of lh.ec.o.m. to call !! winked
    7. Rattenfanger
      Rattenfanger 4 May 2014 17: 01
      +4
      Quote: voldmis
      How, did not find the Russian trace ??? And there were no bears with balalaikas?

      Journalists did not notice them due to the fact that the bears walked in the low-pushed ushanka.
    8. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: voldmis
      And there were no bears with balalaikas?

      What are balalaikas? The war is all the same. I would say: "bears with AK-12" - I would believe it.
      1. Tavalin
        Tavalin 4 May 2014 21: 19
        +1
        smile with balalaikas it’s worse))) who knows what they have in mind ... request maybe they’ll dance, or maybe they’ll move the balalaika lol
    9. The comment was deleted.
    10. GRANATE-19
      GRANATE-19 4 May 2014 17: 17
      +4
      Quote: voldmis
      US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


      How, didn’t you find the Russian trace ??? And there were no bears with balalaikas? Now these zhurnalyugi will be left without a salary! And they will take away the license.

      Bears with balalaikas, with KALASHNIKOVA submachine guns, DRUNK, SNAPPING WITH RED CAVIAR, IN HATS WITH EARLINGS, IN VALENKI, WITH MATROSHES IN POCKETS, PLAYING HARMONIES, PLAYING THROUGH ROASTING MATT AND "NOW! - WALKING ON THE RED SQUARE - A PRIORI !!! ... With respect, I express my humble opinion.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 4 May 2014 19: 06
        +3
        Quote: GRANATE-19
        ", DRUNK, SNACKING RED CAVIAR, IN HATS

        Inspired by ..

        - Honey, I'm home!
        - Why so late?
        - On the way the bear sprained his leg - I had to solder vodka.
        - Sit down! Let's drink vodka.
        “Mom, I'll go play with the bear.”
        - Well, just drink vodka first and don’t forget your hat with earflaps, there are 155 degrees outside.
        - And where is our grandfather?
        - He has been waiting in line for coupons for coupons for a second week.
        “It's good that he drank vodka before that.” And you don’t sit idle, go drink vodka too.
        “Okay, go take a walk, son, and don't forget to write a report to the KGB in the evening!” And on the way home do not forget to buy vodka - it ends.
        - Darling, something's hot. Please turn off the nuclear reactor.
        - Now I’ll finish the vodka and turn it off, while you play the balalaika and paint the nesting dolls, otherwise we don’t have enough money for vodka.
        - Something I got bored, I'll go drink vodka and ride a tank.
        - Do not forget the Kalashnikov assault rifle and drink vodka for courage
        - Dear and do not forget to call on the mafia, you have not been with them for a long time, drink vodka, sing a Russian song!
    11. Rus2012
      Rus2012 4 May 2014 20: 18
      +9
      Quote: voldmis
      Now these zhurnalyugi will be left without a salary!

      here, on the program of Savik Shustrov, the truth suddenly erupted.
      They say it is no coincidence ...

      Look carefully at the faces of people in the studio with what attention they watch the video about the militia battalions from the Crimea: alone with fear - there will be reckoning!
      Some with such thirst, as if they had not drunk or eaten for a week ...
      1. builder
        builder 4 May 2014 21: 52
        +1
        our man seems to be in the team
      2. Mih
        Mih 4 May 2014 22: 26
        0
        on the program of Savik Shustrov, the truth suddenly erupted.
        Schucher was pierced, I think not by chance.
        Feels, where it goes.
      3. Iskander Khan
        Iskander Khan 4 May 2014 22: 44
        -1
        laughing wassat Ha Ha Ha Savik the milkman. He must have been waiting for this moment.
    12. maximus
      maximus 4 May 2014 21: 22
      +1
      Quote: voldmis
      US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


      How, didn’t you find the Russian trace ??? And there were no bears with balalaikas? Now these zhurnalyugi will be left without a salary! And they will take away the license.

      How was it not? And who shot down the helicopter with a balalaika)
    13. Cherdak
      Cherdak 4 May 2014 22: 10
      +1
      Quote: voldmis
      How, did not find the Russian trace ???
    14. Fucknato
      Fucknato 4 May 2014 22: 28
      0
      So lie that everyone does not care.
    15. tyras85
      tyras85 4 May 2014 23: 34
      0
      Tyras85 Which "" will indicate the location of the carrot !? Here and now, it is necessary not to state "the absence of a storm in the glass" of which it cannot be, but to DEVELOP SPECIFIC MEASURES to stabilize the eastern "Ukraine" gravitating towards RUSSIA measures to stop the murder of OUR PEACEFUL CITIZENS. and to the United States ("friends") and the European Union ("friends warmed up with our gas, YET!") If you keep your head in the sand like that ostrich and do not take SPECIFIC steps, we are RUSSIA and we will walk "covered in mud" without guilt! there is something to SHOW and DO! The main thing is not to wait for someone to say what. IF WE ARE STRONG, WE SHOULD SHOW SIE, not scare, but CONSTITUTE. WE ARE A FREE INDEPENDENT COUNTRY
      BUT WHO TO US WITH A SWORD AND THE WORD HAPPY-ANSWER ANSWERING! In word-by-word on the sword
      WITH THE SWORD KARAYUSCHM.THE THOUGHT ENOUGH "to hang out in the hole like a g .... o" IT'S TIME TO POSITION AND VERY HARD TO TAKE, ACTION WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE "jackal howl."
      1. tyras85
        tyras85 5 May 2014 00: 18
        0
        Tyras85 What "boar" will indicate the location of carrots, as those specialists from the United States "disowned"
        from their CITIZENS of a free country and shit-democracy but-BOEVIKOV- in our native RUSSIAN language and in meaning and content THIS IS AN ABOMINATION. RUSSIA HAS NO ENEMIES !!! ???
        THIS IS NON-MISLEASING AND TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY. RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OF US, RUSSIANS !!! IF NOT WE WHO SAME WILL PROTECT RUSSIA MUCH SUFFERING FROM NEOFASCHISM !? Example-UKRAINE ...
      2. tyras85
        tyras85 5 May 2014 00: 18
        0
        Tyras85 What "boar" will indicate the location of carrots, as those specialists from the United States "disowned"
        from their CITIZENS of a free country and shit-democracy but -BOEVIKOV-- in our native RUSSIAN language both in meaning and content. THIS IS AN ABOMINATION. RUSSIA HAS NO ENEMIES !!! ??? !!! ??? !!! ??? !!! ??? !!! ??? !!! ??? !!! ???
        THIS IS NON-MISLEAD AND FULL RESPONSIBILITY. THE RESPONSIBILITY MEASURE DOES NOT LIE ON THE PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNMENT (ONLY), BUT ON US WITH YOU RUSSIANS !!!
    16. tyras85
      tyras85 4 May 2014 23: 34
      0
      Tyras85 Which "" will indicate the location of the carrot !? Here and now, it is necessary not to state "the absence of a storm in the glass" of which it cannot be, but to DEVELOP SPECIFIC MEASURES to stabilize the eastern "Ukraine" gravitating towards RUSSIA measures to stop the murder of OUR PEACEFUL CITIZENS. and to the United States ("friends") and the European Union ("friends warmed up with our gas, YET!") If you keep your head in the sand like that ostrich and do not take SPECIFIC steps, we are RUSSIA and we will walk "covered in mud" without guilt! there is something to SHOW and DO! The main thing is not to wait for someone to say what. IF WE ARE STRONG, WE SHOULD SHOW SIE, not scare, but CONSTITUTE. WE ARE A FREE INDEPENDENT COUNTRY
      BUT WHO TO US WITH A SWORD AND THE WORD HAPPY-ANSWER ANSWERING! In word-by-word on the sword
      WITH THE SWORD KARAYUSCHM.THE THOUGHT ENOUGH "to hang out in the hole like a g .... o" IT'S TIME TO POSITION AND VERY HARD TO TAKE, ACTION WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE "jackal howl."
  2. i80186
    i80186 4 May 2014 15: 50
    +4
    Well, why not hear that? The New York Times wrote the same. It's like in Pravda in 1980 to write.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 4 May 2014 16: 04
      +18
      The voice of truth is heard louder !!! hi

      The conflict in Ukraine will become a funeral march for the UN, IMF, EU, NATO and other Western organizations, which in unison are trying to prove to billions of people that 2 + 2 = 5, according to the popular American blogger and anti-war activist Daniel Welch.
      American political analyst and anti-war activist Daniel Patrick Welch published an article on the non-profit Internet portal consortiumnews.com, in which he spoke about the influence of the United States on events in Ukraine, and also predicted the imminent collapse of many international organizations in connection with the Ukrainian crisis.
      The so-called anti-terrorist operation of the Ukrainian security forces, controlled by Kiev, he calls a war crime staged in Washington.
      "Without a doubt, this is a war crime. Now no one should have any doubts who is pulling the strings here. The illegitimate junta is simply doing what the owners of the International Monetary Fund ordered it to do, which, as you know, is on guard of Western capital. Washington, where the IMF headquarters is located, made it clear that the agreements reached with Ukraine, which are already a death sentence for many Ukrainians living on wages, could be revised if Kiev does not return control over the rebel against their power and rich resources east of the country, "writes Welch.
      According to him, a military operation in southeastern Ukraine, in which the junta uses the remnants of the army and shock battalions of neo-Nazis, will go down in world history as one of the most shameful and disgusting military campaigns.
      “At first, I thought that during the active military phase of the operation, the resistance (in southeastern Ukraine) would not be in the hands of its main trump card - the people. After all, now in wars soldiers are not forced to fight with unarmed people, and there can be no scenes, where civilians are trying to stop the tanks with their bare hands. But I was wrong and I admit it. The struggle, like life itself, always teaches me lessons, teaches me something new every day, "the author of the article admits.
      Welch is convinced that now the aggression of the United States and its allies has spread from Afghanistan to Zaporozhye. At the same time, he accuses international organizations of explicitly aiding American interests.
      "The conflict in Ukraine will be a death march for the UN, IMF, European Union, NATO and other Western organizations, which in unison are trying to prove to billions of people that 2 + 2 = 5. They themselves create problems and have no idea how to solve them." - he writes and quotes the famous Latin American writer and politician Eduardo Galeano: "It would be very strange if the United States, from where evil comes to us, suddenly gave rise to a means of healing for us."

      http://aftershock.su/?q=node/227725
      1. northern
        northern 4 May 2014 18: 51
        +3
        The same thing was said about the UN and about NATO when the events in Yugoslavia began. It has been called genocide of civilians, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The results of these events, and what became of the country of Yugoslavia, we all know. Both the UN and NATO have not disappeared after this genocide. So it goes :-(
        1. kombat58
          kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 44
          0
          All events have their time and place!
          The time has come and there will be a place! Place of Victory Parade!
          Choose the capital of the Parade!
          1. northern
            northern 5 May 2014 01: 00
            0
            As always, Moscow, Red Square, May 9.
            I do not need other parades.
        2. kombat58
          kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 44
          0
          All events have their time and place!
          The time has come and there will be a place! Place of Victory Parade!
          Choose the capital of the Parade!
    2. zanoza
      zanoza 4 May 2014 16: 10
      +12
      Quote: i80186
      Well, why not hear that? The New York Times wrote the same.

      ДI think that in a good translation all article, and not excerpts from it, the picture opens in two ways.
      They not foundbut doubts remained, and everything was somehow suspicious look outt: relatives in Russia, service in the SA = Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, coven in Russia ...
      These guys focus on such "little things"
      , natural for us, but not understandable for the American inhabitants, who not only do not know the history of Ukraine and Russia, but the geographical position of Ukraine is difficult for them. Well, and the conclusions these state-of-the-art non-educated readers will make the "correct" one: these are all Russian agents and mercenaries.
      They write half-truths, substitute facts, "correctly" voice (300 separatists dispersed and mutilated 4000 people, "peaceful fans").
      I do not believe the Western press.
    3. cosmos111
      cosmos111 4 May 2014 16: 41
      +1
      US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


      THERE ARE NOT ANY "" "US journalists" "" are the same cynical and ruthless killers, like their colleagues from like (Blackwater PMC), only INFO .... WAR ...

      among militias they should become the goal of N1 !!!!!
  3. Little Muck
    Little Muck 4 May 2014 15: 57
    +7
    We are forced to admit: "The rebels serving in the 12th company turned out to be Ukrainians, who, however, have close ties with Russia, including kindred ones, like many in Eastern Ukraine.
    Well what will you do? And these are not ours either. recourse
    But the junta found 1000 specialists in Kiev, and in the SE there are no Ukrainians at all, only Russian separatists "Babai". bully
    Okay, the journalists are blind. Where is the State Department looking? Why weren’t they brought in with balalaikas, with medvedi, with vodka at the ready, unshaven, unshaven and not able to ride people? angry
    And here the GDP crumbled all the raspberries. Well, one "black strip" in the whole of America, poor fellows, your mother. laughing wassat
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 4 May 2014 16: 19
      +31
      The other is megafail on Schuster ... !!! laughing Do not be lazy look !!! yes

      Titus around !!! tongue
      1. foreman SA
        foreman SA 4 May 2014 16: 34
        +9
        True, it’s like an awl in a bag, it will come out in the most inappropriate place !!))))
      2. lecturer
        lecturer 4 May 2014 16: 45
        +11
        This is LIKED ALIK SHUSTRIKOVICH !!!!!
        PS AND THANKS Brothers from the Crimea
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      4. Little Muck
        Little Muck 4 May 2014 16: 50
        +4
        Quote: Sid.74
        The other is megafail on Schuster ... !!

        Thanks for the video. good hi
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 4 May 2014 23: 18
          0
          Quote: Little Muck
          Thanks for the video. good hi


          Vitaly, welcome hi Hold it again!
          Otp .... whether the crew of the TV channel "rain" in Odessa !!! I think this is normal, it would be necessary to continue the tradition in Moscow, it's a pity that I'm not a Muscovite !!! lol

          In Odessa, police released 67 detainees under the pressure of protesters!
          The corresponding figure was announced today at the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Odessa region.

          At the same time, the police emphasized that the decision to release the activists was made in accordance with the relevant decisions of the prosecutor's office. Among those released are activists Oleg Muzyka and Rostislav Barda.

          As the "Navigator" reported, during the 2 riots in May in Odessa, according to the official version, 46 people died. Subsequently, law enforcement officers arrested 130 people, most of whom were anti-Maidan activists.

          About more !!! 5 channel ... fellow


          Taki yes !!! hi

      5. irina.mmm
        irina.mmm 4 May 2014 18: 14
        +5
        haha miss again
        SHUSTERS at a expense
      6. Turkir
        Turkir 4 May 2014 19: 07
        +3
        Thank you so much.!!
        1. Black
          Black 4 May 2014 19: 38
          +4
          Shusterku on the microphone blew in the ear, about the militia, he, deciding what kind of "nenko" - and gave it to the studio .... and there is the Crimean militia !!! promises to come to the aid of SE, and very much asks the mothers to remove the boys from the army ...
    2. sniper
      sniper 4 May 2014 16: 56
      +15
      Friends, not quite the topic, but



      1. Turkir
        Turkir 4 May 2014 20: 09
        +2
        Any information yes, still such, in the subject.
  4. Validator
    Validator 4 May 2014 16: 47
    +24
    Privat ruins satisfied
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck 4 May 2014 16: 55
      +9
      Quote: Validator
      Privat ruins satisfied

      It is time from an unfortunate event to move on to patterns throughout the territory. am wassat
    2. ty60
      ty60 4 May 2014 19: 55
      +4
      the ruins of Kolomoisky would have been more satisfied
  5. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 4 May 2014 16: 47
    +30
    Lads, catch the right recipe! Remember: the armored personnel carrier is rubber-mounted, not tracked! If he loses all the wheels in the field - lift him without a crane - IMPOSSIBLE, ITS MASS - MORE THAN 13 TONS! Therefore, read the "recipe", make the composition and pour it NOT IN BOTTLES, BUT INTO CONDOMS! Put the preziki on the road, in rows obliquely from one side of the road to the other, or in a checkerboard pattern. Wait for the column to pass and smear the "product" on your wheels, then - just throw ONE ONE bottle with gasoline and a burning wick on the road. The effect will be - you will LOVE it !!! So you can immobilize several armored personnel carriers without substituting. And without wheels - he's just an iron coffin !!! Yes, and it is almost impossible to extinguish the "composition" with improvised means. Good luck, beat the fascists and try to stay alive !!!!
  6. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 4 May 2014 16: 48
    +16
    MAKE A CROSSING FOR SOUTH EASTERN UKRAINIANS ... ON THE WAY OF FOLLOWING MOTOR COLUMNS WITH MILITARY EQUIPMENT, LET SCREW Nails - HERZHOUTS, PUNCTURE CROSSES FOR LOADS AND BMP ... IT IS SMOKLY TURNED TO STOP THE SMOKED BARBAR. IF YOU THINK UP AN ARCTIC MECHANISM WHEN RIDING ON A TRAP ... KEEP THE HELICOPTER TAIL FROM THE AUTOMATIC SCREW, REPLETING THE BLADE, THE HELICOPTER WILL SPUN AROUND YOUR AXLE AND WILL DROP TO THE EARTH ..
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 4 May 2014 18: 58
      +8
      Quote: platitsyn70
      Having beaten off the BLADE, the HELICOPTER WILL SPIN AROUND ITS AXLE AND WILL DROP TO THE EARTH ..

      Do not buy strongly: getting into the tail rotor blades is less likely than into the main rotor. If it is an Mi-8, better hit the tail boom, closer to the tail rotor. Mechanisms for transferring rotation to the propeller pass through it, and it is easier to damage them with concentrated fire. As for the "collapse" do not flatter yourself, a normal flyer in rotation and without a helmsman will land. But what will not fly further - GUARANTEE! good
      1. ty60
        ty60 4 May 2014 20: 03
        +3
        one out of a thousand will sit down with a jammed gearbox. During rotation, the gearbox must be in good condition. Not all tail rotor blades are not a problem. An experienced pilot will catch the throttle, but the turntable is no longer combat-ready, just leave without maneuver.
      2. not main
        not main 5 May 2014 01: 02
        0
        Quote: avia1991
        If it is Mi-8 - beat better on the tail boom, closer to the tail rotor

        Tip type: if you want to destroy the tank, shoot directly at the barrel! ammunition explodes! RV control is carried out by steel cables with a diameter of 8 mm. You have to be Baron Munchausen to get there! Or an accident!
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 4 May 2014 22: 24
      +3
      Quote: platitsyn70
      LET THROUGH NAILS - Hedgehogs, PUNCTURE CYLINDERS TO TRUCKS AND BMP

      what are hedgehog nails? they have 4 pairs with automatic pumping. in the urals kamaz too.
      Excuse me, where did you serve?
  7. novobranets
    novobranets 4 May 2014 16: 53
    +2
    Quote: DanSabaka
    it’s only a pity that no one will hear these journalists ....

    The New York Times is a very respectable and serious publisher. If this material doesn’t clash, then this report will become a good bomb under one lying, black ass. Although the report will be printed, there is little hope.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 4 May 2014 16: 54
    +1
    Quote: DanSabaka
    but who would doubt .... it’s only a pity that no one will hear these journalists ....

    Who needs this truth in the West ???
    Those who pay money for reporting, those who financed the riots, those who stand behind Nalyvaychenko - this truth is not needed !!!
    I was amazed that mourning was declared in Ukraine, because they are all, according to the freedom-loving press, separatists, Kremlin saboteurs, the hand of Moscow.
  9. staryivoin
    staryivoin 4 May 2014 17: 08
    +2
    One of the sages said long ago:
    "It's hard to find a cat in a dark room, especially if it's not there !!!"
    For the Washington Regional Committee, the concepts of "wisdom, honesty, conscience, morality, dignity" are absolutely unfamiliar - they are much closer to "lies, hatred, forgery, betrayal ..."
    The fact that there were journalists who said at least a word of truth in a sea of ​​lies is a feat ... They should be given the world's highest award in the field of journalism. And praise the Lord there are more and more of them !!! As if after informatak on RUSSIA after 08.08.08 the journalistic world begins to "wake up".
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    2. APASUS
      APASUS 4 May 2014 19: 34
      +1
      Quote: staryivoin
      Some of the sages said long ago: "It is difficult to find a cat in a dark room, especially if it is not there !!!"

      This is Confucius - an ancient thinker and philosopher of China.
      1. dima-fesko
        dima-fesko 4 May 2014 21: 32
        0
        It is difficult to look for a snake in a dark room, especially if it is there. I mean, the material of these journalists is unlikely to reach a Western audience. Do not give to air (print).
        1. Trit Nakosh
          Trit Nakosh 4 May 2014 22: 28
          0
          Not only published, but there are discussions of readers (not without provocations, of course)
          http://nyti.ms/1iVMtnH
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  11. Arkuda
    Arkuda 4 May 2014 17: 22
    +1
    The number of readers of The New York Times in the US alone is 32mln. The question is will this material be published !?
  12. Skipper2050
    Skipper2050 4 May 2014 18: 01
    0
    It is not the point here that they will be heard or not heard, who needs it knows, but they don’t need to know the European and American people (western, walking hamburgers), they decide for them: American and European junta.
  13. huginn
    huginn 4 May 2014 18: 21
    0
    No, the article was in the New York Times! Of course, not on the first page, but somewhere in the basement, but it was.
  14. Army1
    Army1 4 May 2014 18: 33
    0
    NOT American seems to have been journalists
  15. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 4 May 2014 19: 17
    0
    And they will not listen - their ears are plugged, it is not profitable for them!
  16. jktu66
    jktu66 4 May 2014 21: 27
    0
    And how can Canadian Bandera anneal! They introduced new sanctions to Russia because
    “Russia's illegal occupation of Ukrainian territory and provocative military activity”
    About how!
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 5 May 2014 04: 22
    +2
    Quote: DanSabaka
    yes who would doubt ....
    it’s only a pity that no one will hear these journalists ....


    So after all, EU intelligence also found nothing.

    "EU intelligence disagrees with Kiev
    The discussion of sanctions against Russia for military intervention in the affairs of Ukraine was seriously complicated after a statement by the head of intelligence of the EU military headquarters George Alafuzoff. He refuted the information already accepted by many politicians and the media as a fact. He said that according to EU intelligence agencies, the Russian military has nothing to do with the situation in eastern Ukraine.
    In an interview with the Finnish company Yle, George Alafuzoff said that according to them, the Russian military is not related to the situation in eastern Ukraine. He also denied that Russia was preparing an invasion of Ukraine.

    “I do not believe that an attack on Ukraine or the seizure of territories is in the interests of the state and the leadership of Russia. In the event of occupation, these territories would oblige Russia politically, economically, culturally to such actions, which are then difficult to get out of, ”Mr. Alafuzoff said.
    He noted that Russian intelligence is likely to operate in the Ukrainian territories, but no evidence of their presence was found.

    The Foreign Service of the European Union noted that this information has not yet been communicated to them. "
    http://www.euromag.ru/specprojects/watch-russia/36866.html
  18. maks-101
    maks-101 5 May 2014 06: 27
    0



    23:55
    Turchinov unofficially admitted the loss of the East
    Turchinov unofficially admitted the loss of the East
    Nominated by the Verkhovna Rada President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov admitted today that many residents in eastern Ukraine support supporters of federalization of the country, which, according to him, “significantly complicates the conduct of a military operation”.

    The speaker of the Kiev parliament, Alexander Turchinov, said that the military operation in eastern Ukraine is complicated by the fact that many residents of this region support supporters of federalization, ITAR-TASS reports citing its statement in an interview with Channel 5.

    “Let's be honest, the residents of these regions support” supporters of federalization, which “significantly complicates the conduct of the power operation,” the Kiev official said.

    According to him, law enforcement agencies also “sympathize” with the protesters. In particular, some employees of the former Berkut special forces who remained in the service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, "now do not fulfill their tasks," he said in an interview.
  19. xenod55
    xenod55 5 May 2014 12: 24
    0
    Not only they will not hear, or rather they will hear, only in the variant it is quite the opposite, since in geyrop and states the most severe censorship is. And currently, a law is being prepared in the states according to which ALL of their media should reflect only that line approved by the State Department.
  • kostik1301
    kostik1301 4 May 2014 15: 48
    +20
    When they find the Russian track with fascism will be finished ....
    1. voldmis
      voldmis 4 May 2014 16: 05
      +7
      When they find the Russian track with fascism will be finished ....


      Good idea! It’s a pity I can only put one plus!
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 5 May 2014 06: 38
      +2
      Quote: kostik1301
      When they find the Russian track with fascism will be finished ....


      Yeah, for sure.
      "How will it end. The Russian army always appears to eliminate the Nazis.
      ... I think they are already gradually becoming really scared.

      And the point here is not about quick deletions in social networks of accounts of Odessa "girls-lighters". And not in the messages about establishing the identity of the “centurion Mykola”, who gained his “five minutes of fame”, who can now safely consider himself a samurai: too many people wish him dead among those whose relatives, friends or just good friends died in the fire of the House of Trade Unions , and on the part of those for whom Mykola now passes through the category of at least “undesirable witnesses”.

      That's all guys - flowers.

      And the “berries” are just beginning to crawl out of the ground along with the miners who are leaving the mines and reports that the people's governor of Lugansk Valery Bolotov is already openly confirming: the resistance forces of the South-East are not going to limit their activities exclusively to the defense of their “indigenous lands” . Their headquarters is slowly starting to prepare an attack directly on Kiev.

      There are enough volunteers.

      Weapons are still not enough, especially heavy weapons, but I have no doubt: they will appear soon. And do not ask me how: it appeared in Transnistria, and in Republika Srpska, and in Abkhazia - it appeared, and that’s all. And in the same way - do not ask me how the commanders with combat experience will appear there. They appeared in the same way wherever a serious mess started, and I see no reason why the Donbass should be an exception here.

      Everything is simple here. There is such a historical algorithm: if Nazis that burn people appear somewhere, no matter what they are called, after a while the Russian army appears there and hangs the Nazis. And here it is not so important what this army is called: “red”, “Soviet”, “Russian” or simply “the people's militia of Donbass”.

      Its “historical mission” is important.

      Therefore, even if they have not yet fully realized what they did in Odessa, they are already scared.

      And this, in general, is correct. Because the Kiev wandering circus may fall down too: they still have time for this, and some, but still “political”, yes, and it’s a sin to hide - a financial resource. But the “centurions Mykolam” and other “heroes of Bandera labor”, I am afraid, will have to, as it were softer, drop a little “hang”. And it seems to them that it is slowly starting to get to the point that the answer to the question “what about us?” Will be an unequivocal answer.

      Behind the neck guys.

      Behind the neck.

      We must pay tribute - you are confidently moving towards this.
      http://www.odnako.org/blogs/chem-vsyo-konchitsya-russkaya-armiya-vsegda-poyavlya
      etsya-chtobi-likvidirovat-nacistov /
  • pv1005
    pv1005 4 May 2014 15: 49
    0
    Yes, only the wretched can see this trace.
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 4 May 2014 15: 49
    +4
    Until you poke them into the facts with your nose, you still won’t believe ....

    It is necessary to disarm customs officers so that the borders of the Lugansk region are open for the supply of weapons from Russia. The border should be cleared of the right-wing customs officers. Only in this way can the militias be well armed.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 4 May 2014 15: 54
      +7
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Until you poke them into the facts with your nose, you still won’t believe ....

      Yes, even in their "d ... mo" poke your nose, they will say that it is "honey".
    2. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 4 May 2014 18: 18
      -4
      You can also drop it from the air. On the hibina transporter under the wing and forward - the old one, called the Ukrainian air defense radars, will not notice them accurately. But such arms shipments run the risk of becoming visible.
      1. northern
        northern 4 May 2014 18: 55
        +1
        double on NVP
    3. kombat58
      kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 53
      +1
      NeoIvan 46.164.233.68
      04.05.2014 | 17:37
      Self-defense forces of Lugansk "opened" the Russian-Ukrainian border
      Near s. Yuganovka Lugansk region armed self-defense fighters blocked the border guards and, under the threat of using weapons, were taken away to an unknown destination. This is stated in the official statement of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

      Already seem to obey
    4. kombat58
      kombat58 4 May 2014 20: 53
      0
      NeoIvan 46.164.233.68
      04.05.2014 | 17:37
      Self-defense forces of Lugansk "opened" the Russian-Ukrainian border
      Near s. Yuganovka Lugansk region armed self-defense fighters blocked the border guards and, under the threat of using weapons, were taken away to an unknown destination. This is stated in the official statement of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

      Already seem to obey
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 4 May 2014 15: 50
    +3
    How can you find something ... that simply does not exist ...
    You can of course just invent it yourself.
  • ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 4 May 2014 15: 51
    +22
    He, Putin, is responsible for the mess.
    His spies are rampant everywhere.
    He, Putin, is our nightmare and main enemy.
    In the country of his agents - echelons! And on the Maidan was his detachment -
    Pretended to be Self-Defense.
    And before the Maidan, the lads say
    Thunder manor and sat on caches.
    1. otec
      otec 4 May 2014 16: 16
      +4
      I applaud standing! love soldier
    2. Wels75
      Wels75 4 May 2014 16: 54
      +1
      Yeah! Bravo! The blame for all the kanechno mother Russia. With the headmaster named Volodya. Do you want to ask good people? Spring is exacerbating in schizophrenia. fool
    3. max702
      max702 4 May 2014 19: 43
      +1
      You will not believe it, but one Ukrainian told me this .. For so much idiocy with the compromise of their actions, the true authorities of Ukraine could not commit, and therefore this is Putin’s business .. And the right sector is Putin’s agents ..
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 4 May 2014 15: 53
    +2
    aah, they are beginning to see, bastards ... they began to understand that not only Europe is being pulled to the slaughter, but also the exceptional Yankees themselves
  • il2.chewie
    il2.chewie 4 May 2014 15: 53
    +2
    Apparently the truth is so superficial that even the "honest and independent" Western media did not dare to lie
  • doc62
    doc62 4 May 2014 15: 53
    +3
    that they didn’t say the West would manically consider Russia to be to blame
  • tnship2
    tnship2 4 May 2014 15: 54
    +3
    A video camera nowadays brings more benefits than an army operation. Give access to the hotbeds of resistance to journalists of all television channels who have not yet completely decayed by their independence. Especially Europeans should be given a look at how the real situation is and not how the Americans are presented to them.
  • fedor13
    fedor13 4 May 2014 15: 54
    +2
    God forbid, this is not the last article of this newspaper.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 4 May 2014 15: 55
    +2
    It is difficult to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there!
  • arutun
    arutun 4 May 2014 15: 55
    +3
    We need to work more actively with foreign media, invite them here so that they can see everything with their own eyes, and not read the texts prepared by the CIA on the air.
    Only in this way can we win the information war.
    We cannot intervene right now - although many are expecting this, both friends and foes. BUT if you switched to the side of the junta, those forces that were humiliated, beaten, burned and killed on the Maidan for three months, and went to war against those who supported them, and out of 10 million people in the south-east, there are 2-3 thousand active people on the barricades participants, how can we get there. The people must rise - at least 0,5 - 1 mil. person. Then it is possible to raise a question at the UN, and as amended, give sanctions for the introduction of peacekeepers, otherwise we introduce without sanction. And after that act.
    In such cases, we will have full moral law. Otherwise, we will be accused of all sins in Ukraine.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 4 May 2014 16: 36
      +4
      Is it not clear that the "Donbass resistance" is now opposed to a united Europe and the states?
      You want everyone to fall under the tanks. And then who will live?
    2. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 4 May 2014 18: 06
      +5
      Perhaps I will surprise you, but in the Second World War on the territory occupied by the Nazis, it remains 70 million people. By your logic, they should have simply effortlessly trample underfoot the unfortunate German army scattered over a vast territory. However, there were almost no partisans in the 41st. And they appeared en masse at the end of 42-43g. And people of SE live in the conditions of suppression by the STATE, as in the 41st. And they need help, advisers, weapons, etc. It is from there - Sailors, Kovpvk, Kozhedub, etc.
      1. arutun
        arutun 4 May 2014 21: 41
        0
        I did not say to go to tanks with my bare hands. But the mass exit of people on the square of large cities, so that it was clear that this is really the majority. Then a request to Russia would sound more convincing and clear. And it was possible to safely send the West to the rear ... and send troops.
        But after this step we should understand that we will have only 2 options:
        1. Protect several areas of SE. Put peacekeepers, and Ukraine will turn into a second Germany. Moreover, the West will also be happy with this option, but I think there are no Ukrainians.
        2. Go to the end. As in 1945. Until the complete liberation of Ukraine. Then free elections, and the withdrawal of troops. But then again, it's all on paper simply.

        The saddest thing is that in both cases we get a military conflict at our border, with unclear prospects.
        In any case, the West wins, they are now the winner in any situation, no matter how we act.
        1. I read the news
          I read the news 5 May 2014 00: 39
          +1
          Quote: arutun
          But the mass exit of people on the square of large cities, so that it was clear that this is really the majority.

          and what will happen?
          1) no one will know about this if you do not live in the squares for months
          2) The state will collect lists of participants and the right sector will go to the addresses to inspect who has how many children and a young wife. So?
  • TeaOK
    TeaOK 4 May 2014 15: 58
    +4
    Now we are looking at when these "pro-Kremlin propagandists" will be fired. lol
  • ECT
    ECT 4 May 2014 15: 58
    +2
    One thing is clear, there is a split in Western society. And most likely this happens due to the pressure of industrialists, politics by politics, but loot must be earned, and without Russia earnings will fall significantly. Earnings will fall and Obama will quickly merge, who will need him.
  • boozer
    boozer 4 May 2014 15: 58
    +2
    Yes, it’s not in the tracks now, the Russian trace, the Mongolian trace — a brutal murder of Ukrainian citizens is underway! And who trampled there is an extreme matter. It is necessary to stop the slaughter! Every hour there will be more victims, on the one hand, on the other.
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    2. cumastra1
      cumastra1 4 May 2014 16: 40
      +4
      How can you stop a fascist brutalized by blood? You can go to him without weapons - as the majority of the population in the southeast does, and talk - ay yay yay type. 46 people have already been burned alive, they will burn another thousand - they will not sneeze. And you can hammer from a grenade launcher. Yes, not democratic, but more intelligible.
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 4 May 2014 16: 02
    +2
    I am beginning to be tormented by doubts ... and whether the current leaders of the Banderlog who escaped from the clinic for paranoids ... they clearly have a split consciousness and a persecution mania. Every day, the new "bullshit" sounds from the mouths of the first persons ... wherever they already do not see the Russian trace ...
    Or maybe they are deliberately "mowing like a fool" ... they create an alibi for the future ... After all, they will have to answer unambiguously before the court ... and then their lawyers will show a certificate ... THEY ARE NOT GUILTY ... HEAD!
    Look far ahead, however!
    1. northern
      northern 4 May 2014 19: 01
      0
      Brain slug in their head. Green as the famous currency and striped as the famous flag.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 May 2014 16: 05
    +4
    Yes to us, what difference does it make there or not, they have their own lives, we have our own. I personally do not care.
    It's some kind of habit since Soviet times, wondering what they think about us. It’s as if it’s not clear whether they think about us badly or very badly, this is how it was, how it is and how it will be. I met the enemy, why ask - "Well, how do you like it with us. Do you like everything, are we doing everything right for your enemy's taste?"
  • Arkan
    Arkan 4 May 2014 16: 09
    0
    US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk


    And where is it, in the USA, printed? Link can be obtained.
    1. Leah
      Leah 4 May 2014 16: 32
      0
      I will join, does anyone have a link to the article itself in the English version in New York time?
      1. svit777
        svit777 5 May 2014 19: 00
        +1
        NYTimes cannot find Russian warriors after week of investigation. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/world/europe/behind-the-masks-in-ukraine-many-
        faces-of-rebellion.html? ref = world & _r = 0. There are a lot of ethnic Russian there of course, but please do not miss Russian (nationality) and Russian (state belonging).
    2. Horn
      Horn 4 May 2014 17: 50
      0
      http://www.news.com.au/world/man-tries-to-stop-russian-military-tank-with-bare-h
      ands-as-ukraines-prorussian-militants-hold-firm / story-fndir2ev-1226889648146
      - True, these journalists are not exactly, but it’s exactly what our sculpted friends in the West see.
  • Neighbor
    Neighbor 4 May 2014 16: 13
    0
    It would be better if they looked for traces in Langley. If, of course, they want to find something.
  • Free Island
    Free Island 4 May 2014 16: 16
    0
    the only question is - if all the same these journalists publish their material - then how soon will the US government call them "schizophrenics", or Russian saboteurs and take away their licenses and fire them ...
  • Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 4 May 2014 16: 18
    +2
    Hear these zhurnalyug. Similarly, in 2008 it was. first glum and falsehood, and then recognition of the rightness of Russia. hi
  • Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 4 May 2014 16: 23
    +3
    How so, gentlemen, American journalists? Can not see? Did you look good? Nothing, they will let you read the necessary piece of paper in front of the camera, do not upset your employers.
  • mig31
    mig31 4 May 2014 16: 23
    +1
    There is no belief in Western "values", everything and everything is under censorship, if anything breaks through, it is vague and not clear in the general context, THE TRUTH IS ONLY RUSSIAN !!!
  • Arh
    Arh 4 May 2014 16: 27
    +1
    They are All Russian !!!)))
  • Lyton
    Lyton 4 May 2014 16: 31
    0
    Yeah, it’s hard to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if it’s not there.
  • Yellow white
    Yellow white 4 May 2014 16: 44
    +1
    Nothing, the truth is all the same for us and it will come up whether the West wants it or not!
  • pvv113
    pvv113 4 May 2014 16: 45
    +5
    Can it be that the Anglo-Saxons don’t see that the Donbass and the Southeast rose against the junta, defending their freedom? And they do not need instructions from the side, unlike banderlogs, dancing, i.e. skipping to the tune of the USA and the West
  • Fedor Bolts
    Fedor Bolts 4 May 2014 16: 46
    +1
    And as they probably wanted to see Putin there, in the armored car on an armored personnel carrier, which Shoigu was driving.
  • v245721
    v245721 4 May 2014 16: 47
    +1
    don't give a damn what they found there or didn't find1
  • boyarinsanek
    boyarinsanek 4 May 2014 16: 47
    +1
    maybe they’ll finally understand that people are fighting for their home
  • Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 4 May 2014 16: 51
    0
    How is it not found? request The land is Russian, most of them are Russians around, but they did not find it. Yes, there are Russian "tracks" all around. wink
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 4 May 2014 16: 52
    0
    I beg you, they told them here to calmly rush off before the assault! And over the hill they will write the opposite, the salary is hotstsa.
  • Svetovod
    Svetovod 4 May 2014 16: 55
    0
    Obama will bring America to Fallout-3 ...
  • crambol
    crambol 4 May 2014 16: 59
    0
    Quote: platitsyn70
    In my city, something happened that did not happen even during the fascist occupation. I wonder why the whole world is silent?


    Why aren’t we doing anything? Or was our task to take Crimea, and do not give a damn about the rest?
    1. kombat58
      kombat58 4 May 2014 21: 09
      0
      But did anyone ever have such questions after Stalingrad.
      The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
      And now there is a process hidden from American journalists and a tough information war. She will provide cover for events.
      And do not talk about dying fighters, but you are not there.
    2. kombat58
      kombat58 4 May 2014 21: 09
      0
      But did anyone ever have such questions after Stalingrad.
      The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
      And now there is a process hidden from American journalists and a tough information war. She will provide cover for events.
      And do not talk about dying fighters, but you are not there.
  • raf
    raf 4 May 2014 17: 00
    0
    Do not hell to look for Russian tracks! Better to look for dirty and bloody traces of mercenaries from geyropov and mattresses!
  • yushch
    yushch 4 May 2014 17: 04
    0
    The most unpleasant thing about all this is that on this one article, "the freest media in the world" write a thousand false articles. And this correct one will simply be physically lost in them.
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 4 May 2014 17: 05
    0
    US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk
    I wonder what they will now report to their readers? Pathfinders
  • tnship2
    tnship2 4 May 2014 17: 08
    +15
    funny picture caught
    1. staryivoin
      staryivoin 4 May 2014 17: 12
      +1
      Such pictures would be more so with the broadcast to Ukraine!
    2. staryivoin
      staryivoin 4 May 2014 17: 12
      0
      Such pictures would be more so with the broadcast to Ukraine!
  • morpogr
    morpogr 4 May 2014 17: 13
    +1
    Likely now they will again send back until they find it. Let them come more and communicate with people, you see, it will begin to reach the journalists, and those will already tell the truth to the readers.
  • be0560
    be0560 4 May 2014 17: 18
    +1
    Scribe to poor reporters. The shell-shocked McCain will not survive this.
  • Arkuda
    Arkuda 4 May 2014 17: 27
    0
    The number of readers of The New York Times 32 million people, the question is whether this material is published !?
  • kind
    kind 4 May 2014 17: 32
    +2
    US journalists did not find a Russian trace in Slavyansk

    And they weren’t looking for American ???
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    2. tyras85
      tyras85 4 May 2014 17: 59
      +2
      The trouble in Ukraine is our pain and sorrow. I think you can’t interfere directly! Otherwise, load. But help like Americans is needed. There are prepared ones who know what and how to do with this or that product. Russia must help the brothers self-determination. Russian more than 8-10 million. Is it not genocide. Russia - Mother, help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      countermeasures !!! It’s a pity, they didn’t finish off these feshikov. And now NECESSARY Help and Help.
      Do not send our guys in any case! True patriots of freedom will throw off this yoke themselves. They have no tools for this. Russia do not sell your own! Help with a worthy rebuff in the form of "strong" iron. Otherwise, this GAD will creep to us! TYRAS
  • Lelek
    Lelek 4 May 2014 17: 48
    +3
    Barak ibn Abama: "We know for sure that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine, but in any case they are there." (interview in room 6). fool
  • puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 4 May 2014 17: 50
    0
    I would be very surprised if they did not publish it in a heavily edited form. Our publication goes through so many instances and approvals that it is very difficult to see anything in print that is at variance with the official position. Perhaps Western laws allow you to publish anything, but Other measures of influence have not yet been canceled, and the phrase "not our format" can justify anything ...
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 4 May 2014 17: 55
    +5
    I am not a racist, but in the light of recent events, looking at how the black monkey rejoices on the air, I think that Niger should work in the field, there is its place.
    1. ECT
      ECT 4 May 2014 18: 00
      +2
      Fully agree or hand out flyers in the subway
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 4 May 2014 20: 00
      0
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I'm not racist, but in light of recent events
      The humor on TV was: "Most of all in my life I do not like racism and blacks."
  • kelevra
    kelevra 4 May 2014 17: 58
    0
    Now let them make this conclusion with their duty and go to the states to convey their observations to their zombie fellow citizens!
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 4 May 2014 17: 59
    0
    "Western officials and the Ukrainian authorities insist that the militants are being led, organized and supplied by the Russians." On a hike, they are there, among other things, fly agarics insist and "sit" firmly on them. Wow - "they have connections with Russia." Who in Ukraine does not have such connections?
    1. irina.mmm
      irina.mmm 4 May 2014 18: 26
      +1
      There is a Russian spirit, it smells of Rus. What will you do, the wind constantly blows to poor Ukraine, especially to Kiev, and what does it feel like to smell such a fragrance
  • wolf1945
    wolf1945 4 May 2014 18: 04
    +1
    death to the Nazis and their accomplices Banderaites entrenched in Kiev! soldier
  • wanderer987
    wanderer987 4 May 2014 18: 23
    +4
    This is Odessa, who died in the house of trade unions. Distribute this photo to anyone who can let the fascist creatures have no where to live !!!
    1. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 4 May 2014 18: 28
      -7
      What a horror! I have never seen such a thing. The video shown to us at the school where Chechen fighters cut off the heads of Russians seems to me less atrocious.
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