Communiqué of the National Militia Headquarters from 02 - 03.05.2014 of the year

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The attack on civilians and militias began on 2 in May on 4.30 in the morning with an attack on several roadblocks and a television center on the city of Karachun - the dominant height over the city. The enemy used more than 20 helicopters in the attack and up to 100 units of various armored vehicles. Two MI-24 helicopters of the enemy were shot down by the Militia forces and two MI-8 helicopters were significantly damaged. The pilot of one of the downed helicopters, who was seriously wounded, was captured and taken to the city hospital, where he received emergency medical care.

During the morning battle for the height of Karachun, the militia units put up fierce resistance to the enemy, advancing with the support of the 8 BTR, inflicted heavy casualties on him and retreated to the city. Enemy losses are estimated to 10 killed and wounded. In the militia unit, defending the tower, there are no losses. Moving further, the enemy occupied the railway station and the surrounding area, then stopped the advance, and in the evening brought the armored vehicles out of the city.

During the shootings on the northern outskirts of the city (in the direction of Feed Mills), the militia managed to incapacitate several militants of an unidentified enemy unit. In the area of ​​the BZS checkpoint on the Kharkiv-Rostov highway (northeastern direction), the enemy advancing from the city of Izyum using the overwhelming advantage in numbers and armaments, after a fierce battle, the checkpoint and the territory of the Slavic Resort were taken. The militiamen who defended the checkpoint retreated to the city center without loss.

In the afternoon in the area n. Andreevka (on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk near Karachun Mountain) civilians tried to block a convoy of armored vehicles with the Ukrainian military, mercenaries and militants of the Right Sector. As a result, brutally pushing the living cordon of people and passing on one civilian, the convoy continued to move. A repeated attempt to block it led to the fact that the soldiers and soldiers of the so-called. National Guard under opened on unarmed people to kill. According to preliminary data, about 10 civilians died, before 40 people were injured.

In the area of ​​the fire station No. 38, located in the Artem neighborhood, an attempt was made to penetrate into the city center of the National Guard on the 2 buses with the support of 1 BTR. Opponent subjected to fire from small weapons and suffered losses. There are no casualties on the part of the national militia.

A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .

During the battle for the Vostochny roadblock, on the outskirts of Slavyansk, 2 militiamen were killed, several were wounded. Thanks to the overwhelming advantage in technology and weapons, the checkpoint is occupied by the enemy. The forces of the Ukrainian army, mercenaries, militants of the Right Sector, armored vehicles and so-called are still being forced into the Slavyansk region. "National Guard". The local population of the suburbs employed by the enemy repeatedly received information that extremists and radicals from the Right Sector disguise themselves in civilian clothes and try to enter the city under the guise of civilians, including using St. George ribbons to mislead the militias.

During the clashes that took place at a roadblock on the eastern outskirts of the town of Krasny Liman, 1 was killed by a people's militia, 3 were injured. Opponent lost to 15 people killed and wounded. The unit that launched the attack is not installed. Presumably, fighters of the Right Sector attacked. At the present time armored vehicles are pulling up to help the militants, a new attack of the militia positions is being prepared.

At the end of the day, 2 in May, the militia retained strong control over the central part of the city of Slavyansk and conducted gunfights with the enemy on its outskirts. The advance of the enemy in the second half of the day was stopped in all directions and did not resume at night.

In the morning of May 3, the enemy continued to force forces towards the city of Slavyansk and concentrate on artillery batteries on the city of Karachun, and, with the support of armored vehicles, launched an attack on the positions of the people's militia in the city of Kramatorsk from the military airfield. Currently there is a fight. Also, the enemy after a massive shelling with armored vehicles attacked the roadblock of the militia in the village. Yasnogorka between Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. 2 militia wounded. Under pressure from superior enemy forces, the militiamen were forced to abandon their positions and retreat to the city.

“Information about the three knocked down turntables was not confirmed. As often happens, two different divisions “chalked up” the same helicopter. But 2 Mi-24 is also good, I think.

“Druzhkovka after a small skirmish left for our squad. Skirmishes continue in Kramatorsk, but there is no question of any control over the city by the ukropsky troops - our garrison is holding on and suffered only minor losses today (two wounded).
Slavyansk is now partially unblocked, since the drums were removed for the raid on Kramatorsk and were not replaced by anything. Our posts in several places again reached the city borders. A few more Pravosek saboteurs were caught. In the hands of the enemy, only the town of Karachun, where the mass of paratroopers, as well as the BZS roadblock on the Kharkiv-Rostov highway, remain, is occupied by the national guard and many soldiers and equipment with the emblems of the “right sector”. By the way, the loss of dill is much more than Turchinov admitted. But since most of the losses fall on PMCs and gangs of the “right-wing sector”, Turchinov can safely lie about the entire 5 killed by them. In yesterday’s battle at Krasny Liman, the participants clearly heard foreign speech — the wounded shouted in Polish and English. Our daily combat losses in all directions were 4 “200ths” and about 10 injured. The rest of the dead and wounded - shot civilians. The data are being clarified, but there are a lot of wounded - a few dozen just under Andreevka.

“The messenger arrived from Kramatorsk. The National Guard under fired shots in all directions, on one of the blocks — two 200's and three 300's heavy — all unarmed, and one girl — the nurse just drove through the block in her car. The tactic is simple - they drive up to the block at an effective shooting distance, they peel from the CPHT and immediately leave to avoid being hit by the return fire. We do not have our own armored vehicles in Kramatorsk, so they are impudent. By night, they will most certainly leave for the base so that our grenade throwers will not get to them. They will stand there under the protection of the paratroopers ... "

Last data: Konstantinovka was held today — there were local troops in our detachment there (I sent them a few days ago from Slavyansk to put a garrison in the city). The commander is also local there. “National Guardsmen” did not dare to attack the city executive committee - it was ours. He sent back a small reinforcement and ammunition - will fight on. Avakov, by the way, in his "twitter" acknowledged the loss (wounded) suffered by the troops at the TV tower. And there are no casualties among the militias.

In Kramatorsk - about the same thing, adjusted for the fact that the garrison is a bit stronger there. Because of the chaotic shelling of freaks rolling around the city on an armored troop-carrier, quite a lot of civilians were killed. In gunfights, 2 local militia wounded. The enemy (“national guard”) lost 3 man injured. The center of the city is firmly in the hands of our garrison, and the whole city is not able to hold either ours or dill with the available forces. Their units are concentrated in the area of ​​the airfield.

In Slavyansk, a division of the anti-sniper struggle in the region north of Sobolevka (the northern outskirts of the city) destroyed the enemy’s 2 sniper (presumably from the PS or PMC). There are no casualties in the garrison a day. Returned a few more previously left positions. It's still quiet for now, although we are frightened by another “assault” on 3 in the morning. If you finally get together - thank God! But it bothered to drive units to no avail for constantly maneuvering armored groups. We are waiting, sir!

The total loss of the 95 Brigade in two days - 5 killed and 13 injured, as I kindly reported. I think the main ones were incurred during the assault of Karachun. ”
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  1. +48
    4 May 2014 06: 45
    guys hold on.
    1. platitsyn70
      +34
      4 May 2014 06: 48
      I watch TV as during the years of the war they listened to the reports of the Soviet information bureau.
      1. +61
        4 May 2014 07: 09
        Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...
        Commander, dabble at the expense of flying units ... This is really a strong move ... Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...
        1. +22
          4 May 2014 07: 36
          I’ll add that they don’t need to be chased. Part of the roads are blocked, there they wait in ambushes at intervals.
        2. +16
          4 May 2014 08: 19
          Quote: domokl
          Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...

          Even simple mining of roads in front of armed convoys will help this well.
          1. +8
            4 May 2014 14: 23
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            Even simple mining of roads in front of armed convoys will help this well.


            Mines are double-edged weapons. There is a danger of undermining them and their local ...
            Here are remotely controlled landmines (via radio or wires) and nearby ambushes it will be effective. This is confirmed in Afghanistan, and in Lebanon, and in Iraq, and in Syria.
            1. +2
              4 May 2014 15: 13
              Quote: Hammer
              Mines are double-edged weapons. There is a danger of undermining them and their local ...

              I completely agree !!! Not even a land mine ... Only an RPG! It’s very important not to hook your ...
              P / c! I could never have imagined such a situation ...
          2. +1
            4 May 2014 16: 07
            What kind of mining is expensive? There cars rush along the roads.
        3. +14
          4 May 2014 08: 46

          It is high time. A couple of turntables landed, now something is not very fly.
        4. +2
          4 May 2014 08: 46
          Tell me more, who is in the know? - Did the shooters die ??
          "Chamomile" is he?
          1. +5
            4 May 2014 10: 41
            Yes. Bright memory to him!
          2. +2
            4 May 2014 12: 22
            Quote: mirag2
            Tell me more, who is in the know? - Did the shooters die ??
            "Chamomile" is he?

            It seems not!
            A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .
            1. typhoon7
              +1
              4 May 2014 14: 49
              There was information that one of the militia commanders with the call sign "Romashka" died in a duel with an enemy sniper. Videos downloaded there was this information.
              1. Oleg1964
                +4
                4 May 2014 15: 53
                Blessed memory to all those who gave their lives for their homeland!
          3. +1
            4 May 2014 12: 37
            It’s a pity the man, a true patriot, a courageous man .. the question is how and where did he die? after all, he is the commander in his tasks included coordination of defense, staff work .. who now took commando instead of him ??
            1. +1
              4 May 2014 12: 41
              Your last name, first name? Don’t be offended. They asked stupidity
          4. 0
            4 May 2014 16: 56
            Strelkov callsign "Shooter"
        5. +2
          4 May 2014 11: 54
          Quote: domokl
          .It is probably time to create flying detachments of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, they run away for the night ...
          Mining of roads with controlled landmines, the benefit of holes and potholes on the "roads"territory plenty ...
        6. +3
          4 May 2014 17: 57
          Quote: domokl
          But the bathers need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create volatile squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it ... Yes, they run away for the night ...


          Indeed, it is surprising that there is no wrecked armored vehicles. After all, as I understand it, there is something to get it - ATGM, RPG.

          There was a new designation for the enemy - "dill". So be it now velikoukram "dill". Amen.
        7. 0
          4 May 2014 20: 40
          Competent advice! A couple of turntables are already blocked, now they will think about it!
    2. Validator
      +15
      4 May 2014 07: 00
      And so the civil war begins. It is necessary to convey to all the military the order of the DPR on the re-subordination of all armed units to them and after that to burn any equipment that left the bases without the order of the DPR. RPGs are needed in large quantities, I really hope that it is known where to get them
      1. +6
        4 May 2014 11: 31
        The beast tasted blood, now it will not stop! Donetsk, declared independence, occupy checkpoints on the border with Russia. Our humanitarian aid is coming to you. Honest militiamen- help Russian volunteers get their Ukrainian passports so that d.v.o.l.o.t.a could not open their mouths about Russian invaders. Send technically competent guys to the courses of control of armored vehicles, PTO, MANPADS, sapper business!
        1. +2
          4 May 2014 15: 19
          Quote: jktu66
          Send technically competent guys to the courses of control of armored vehicles, PTO, MANPADS, sapper business!

          Unfortunately, the butt ... we need ready-made specialists ... (only from the Russian Federation with a passport of the territory of U)
        2. +4
          4 May 2014 18: 23
          People need to understand that there are no good fascists. I just read it recently:
          About five years ago I read an article on an Israeli site, which impressed me very much and now I remember. There it was about how prisoners of concentration camps met with local schoolchildren and talked about the Holocaust. Well, how do we meet veterans.
          In general, they told, then the schoolchildren teacher raises and asks what conclusions they have drawn. They correctly answer so that, they say, it is necessary to respect people who have experienced such trials, to appreciate peace on earth and all that.
          The gray-haired old woman who survived either Auschwitz or Majdanek nodded her head politely, and then smiled bitterly and said that this was all right of course, but the main conclusion should be completely different.
          “Remember forever,” she said, “that if anyone promises to kill you somewhere, trust them.” Do not argue, as we then, before the Holocaust, that they have such a policy, and they themselves are nice and nice people, that they just say that. When they move from words to deeds, it will be too late. Believe those who promise to kill you. And, if you have the strength, pick up a weapon and kill them first to protect yourself and your families. If not, grab the children, all you can take and run from there. ”
          http://pavel-shipilin.livejournal.com/246319.html
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    4. +12
      4 May 2014 07: 50
      As the acting head of the administration of the interim president of Ukraine Sergey Pashinsky stated earlier on Saturday, almost all important facilities in KramatorskIn particular, the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Department of Internal Affairs, and militias control only the City Council. Pashinsky also said that more than 20 people have already been detained during the operation losses of the Ukrainian military, according to official figures, are five people.

      And this is official data - they recognized the loss of 5 people in Kramatorsk.

      The assault of the military registration and enlistment office in Lugansk
    5. +14
      4 May 2014 08: 14
      Remember, Russia, fearless sons,
      Do not cry, Country, restrain, Russia, moans.
      The soul of the dead with a candlelight
      The millionth torch will be lit soon ...
    6. +15
      4 May 2014 11: 24
      Well done guys, professionals. The commanders are able to protect the fighters. Definitely winners.
      1. Registrar
        -3
        4 May 2014 15: 17
        Correctly fighting the people's militia! It’s not for us to teach them and give advice while sitting at the clave!

        But the armored personnel carrier is not necessary to burn, the boys are sitting in them (hostages of the situation), who at night let the whole bk into the air so as not to shoot at civilians. And the shooting is carried out: according to the right-wingers and mercenaries. And it is competent and fair.
        1. +5
          4 May 2014 18: 25
          They are all not even shooting at people, they are indirectly guilty of what is happening, if there weren’t them, there wouldn’t be any killings. They betrayed the oath, betrayed the honor, betrayed morality, memory, people, all for their own skin.
        2. Camouflet
          +2
          5 May 2014 01: 23
          Quote: Registrator

          But the armored personnel carrier is not necessary to burn, the boys are sitting in them (hostages of the situation), who at night let the whole bk into the air so as not to shoot at civilians. And the shooting is carried out: according to the right-wingers and mercenaries. And it is competent and fair.

          The hostage of the situation must make a choice even before he goes to crush and shoot. Those who were killed did not wait for their choice.

          As for the "selective shooting", it is somehow difficult to imagine it. Especially in the evening and at night. Or maybe the militias have some special means for this?
    7. +4
      4 May 2014 11: 59
      this is all clear - but our president is silent why and where did he say that if there is a threat to the local population and this is not a threat this is the total destruction of all our
    8. Validator
      +7
      4 May 2014 12: 44
      Our people. But batons are no longer relevant, only assault rifles and RPGs
  2. +9
    4 May 2014 06: 47
    Hang on guys. Soon on May 9, everything will begin there.
  3. +13
    4 May 2014 06: 50
    Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes
    1. +26
      4 May 2014 09: 29
      Quote: Lyubimov
      Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes
    2. Camouflet
      0
      5 May 2014 01: 26
      Quote: Lyubimov
      Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes

      I agree. Slavyansk is a hero city.
  4. +9
    4 May 2014 06: 51
    Well done peasants fight well ..! Hold on!
  5. +5
    4 May 2014 06: 56
    DO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!
  6. +25
    4 May 2014 06: 56
    Lyat, as a summary of the information bureau in the Great Patriotic War every day. The militias bow low for not surrendering and destroying these tv.rei. All the same, the junta will be destroyed along with its leaders sitting in Kiev. To each according to his deeds ...
    1. +11
      4 May 2014 07: 07
      Quote: major071
      sitting in Kiev.

      Seated in Washington, to be exact.
      It will be necessary and we will enter the White House and Fort Knox gutted, so that these creatures would be more disgraceful to spoil the planet!
      1. +2
        4 May 2014 15: 22
        Quote: Saburov
        It will be necessary and we will enter the White House and Fort Knox gutted, so that these creatures would be more disgraceful to spoil the planet!

        I think it should do ... INDIANS !!!
    2. +2
      4 May 2014 14: 11
      It has long been said about Fort Knox that there is probably nothing to gut there ... Even experts admit that the US is drawing economic indicators for itself in order to avoid shocks. All indicators are really terrible - the worst in decades. If not for the QE program, then the crisis of 2008 has long been in new phases.
  7. +17
    4 May 2014 06: 58
    A clear report of self-defense results is a good sign of organization. It is highly desirable that he be a comprehension corresponded to reality. and pravoseki all continue to act as a trick, a blow from around the corner, an attack on a weak, unproductive resistance.
  8. +13
    4 May 2014 07: 01
    We need to help with weapons at least
  9. +10
    4 May 2014 07: 06
    The men behind whose wives and children cannot be broken! Hold on to the militias! If we give Syria weapons, will we really not give our relatives?
    1. +11
      4 May 2014 09: 14
      In Slavyansk, real men.
      I am ashamed of Kharkovites.
      For Bander’s creatures, they will wash their blood for Odessa.
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  10. -18
    4 May 2014 07: 11
    And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.
    1. +7
      4 May 2014 07: 26
      The shit throw on the fan is counted.
    2. +12
      4 May 2014 08: 12
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.

      Your leaders periodically call the leaders of Palestine, as well as the leaders of the terrorist groups Fatah and Hamas and? ..
    3. Horde
      +5
      4 May 2014 08: 50
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.


      Jew, well, tell me something about Lukashenko?
    4. +4
      4 May 2014 10: 31
      Lukashenko is the president of an independent state, even if he is our ally, which prevents him from communicating with Turchinov. Moreover, we do not recognize the junta, and there should be minimal communication, but here Butska can help.
      1. +2
        4 May 2014 10: 45
        Independent? Probably you think that there is a strong economy. It is 100% tied to Russia. Do not tell the people. Now there is no such completely independent state-va!
    5. +5
      4 May 2014 14: 24
      I am also strained by the rhetoric of Lukashenka, who says completely out of place that he himself would go to fight against Russia if a similar situation was with Belarus. What is important here is the untimeliness of his examples, which in their essence designate the situation as a Russian invasion and the need for every Ukrainian to fight against it. This interview was on the news some time ago. NAKh are such allies who, in difficult times, "farts" so inappropriately, instead of a bold support position. I have no doubt that Lukashenka and Belarus would have risen as in 41-45 for Russia against the intervention of the West, etc. But even in the current sluggish war, Russia would not be hurt by more unequivocal support. Russia is being beaten, and the allies are conducting friendly diplomacy with the beating ones ... This is very shameful. When will they kill? Who knows how it will be ?! Maybe they will try to stay aside ?! This is Russia harnessed to its own at the slightest offense. And at the geopolitical level, there is a lot at stake, so everyone should understand this to be super important and neutral positions are inappropriate.
      1. +2
        4 May 2014 14: 40
        Lukash has a grudge against Russia, since we do not sell him oil for resale to the west, at domestic prices! And on the market world! For domestic consumption, please, but for resale, please excise pay! Nobody promised him freebies! So he slows down, and throws the presentation! And on the nose defaulted! In short, Old Man wants to sit down with one booty on 2 chairs!
    6. +2
      4 May 2014 15: 31
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.

      Pull it away from Old Man, it doesn't interfere under your feet, doesn't reread it, and okay for now .... By the way, he is far from stupid and very far-sighted "pretzel". If it is silent, then everything is under control.
  11. +9
    4 May 2014 07: 13
    It’s time for us to get involved, we lured enough banderlogs and mercenaries, a decisive blow is necessary, and so that we won’t take prisoners to the spot ...
  12. +1
    4 May 2014 07: 13
    Quote: ruslan207
    And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.



    Where does this infa come from?
    1. +2
      4 May 2014 07: 30
      Yes, this is trolling, which is incomprehensible ...
  13. tarko-trade
    +9
    4 May 2014 07: 15
    We, too, watch "Russia 24 hours" with the whole family, feel the same rage that our ancestors felt when listening to reports from the Great Patriotic War. I do not believe that our leadership will not help the brothers Slavs in the fight against neo-fascists.
  14. talnax7
    +3
    4 May 2014 07: 18
    I see actions not repentance (demotivators, retweaters, nyashki, hrenyashki, and, t, n) Action What to do to us (it’s good for me to wait for the race sitting at the computer in warmth and satiety, to be a couch warrior this is really not proud, I state) But there are others fortunately for us. They know better than me what to do and how the Future South-East with us in the form of what is there (shorter and faster as part of the Russian Federation and cheaper)
  15. +6
    4 May 2014 07: 20
    Strictly, according to the military, without emotion. Snoots "seki" who do not die in the South-East will go to their rat holes. The Galicians have hatched out of themselves and put on their own necks these misbegotten, worse punishment can not be imagined.
  16. +11
    4 May 2014 07: 28
    Putin has already given the go-ahead to arms the rebels, saying that the Kiev authorities have deprived Russia of the opportunity to obstruct their weapons. Everything goes in a bunch. Across the southeast, you need to remove mayors, peers and governors and put their own. Security officials swear an oath or drive you up. No other way.
    1. +2
      4 May 2014 13: 03
      Quote: siberalt
      Putin has already given the go-ahead to the arms of the rebels

      Alas, wishful thinking is valid.
  17. +20
    4 May 2014 07: 36
    The anti-terrorist operation of the junta is "slipping", this is what the Americans are transmitting from the place of the anti-terrorist operation:
    CNN: Kiev's words about “success” in Kramatorsk are far from reality
    Kiev authorities claim that the special operation in Kramatorsk was successful and the city was freed from pro-Russian militias. But a CNN correspondent reports that reality looks very different: Ukrainian security officials left the city without taking control of it and leaving angry residents in their place.
    I am on the outskirts of Kramatorsk. Behind me you see one of the many makeshift barricades. It was installed by the locals and seems to be set on fire, and then removed from the road by the Ukrainian troops moving along this road towards Kramatorsk. We have just been there. Honestly, some terrible calm reigns in the city.

    Burned buses are everywhere in the center. Pro-Russian rebels are still visible in the local administration building. Despite statements by the country's interior minister that the army entered the city and cleaned it of the “terrorists,” as they call pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, there are no signs of the presence of the Ukrainian army. Only the damage left after the collisions that occurred in the last day is visible.

    There are no military personnel in the special services building, which, according to the statement of the Minister of Internal Affairs, was released. And they are not in the TV tower. Yesterday, we saw Ukrainian armored personnel carriers there. But then they left this place due to clashes in a neighboring city.

    The situation is confusing: Kiev is pretending that everything is under control here. But this does not correspond to what we see at the scene. It is also alarming that we learned by talking with doctors from a hospital in Kramatorsk. Only in it one reports of three dead and 15 wounded.

    Kramatorsk is angry. Despite the military operation, it seems that the soldiers just entered the city, took part in the battles and moved on. Discontent still reigns in the city. And to some extent, so to speak, it is rather under the control of pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, but certainly not under the control of the Kiev authorities.
    Nick Peyton Walsh, CNN, Kramatorsk.

    Material provided by CNN International.
    Translation is RT.

    Air Date: May 03 2014.

    1. +7
      4 May 2014 08: 34
      Even CNN has honest journalists!

      And here is the official Kiev that writes about the situation in Kramatorsk.
      As the acting head of the administration of the interim president of Ukraine Sergey Pashinsky stated earlier on Saturday, almost all important facilities in Kramatorsk, in particular, the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the internal affairs department, and militias control only the city council came under the control of the Ukrainian armed forces. Pashinsky also said that more than 20 people have already been detained during the operation losses of the Ukrainian military, according to official figures, are five people.
    2. +3
      4 May 2014 08: 57
      I did not expect from CNN
      1. +9
        4 May 2014 09: 18
        Quote: samoletil18
        I did not expect from CNN

        CNN is amerovskaya rot, their "correspondents" must be shot, because they are soldiers, or rather INFO mercenaries ... they are against us ....

        Crimean people go to the aid of the South-East !!!!
        1. +5
          4 May 2014 12: 31
          And where are they ?????
        2. Com T-64a
          +1
          4 May 2014 18: 37
          Samvel again. A guy seems to be active, from the beginning of the operation in the Crimea, he rustled there!
          Keep the word Samvel! The people will not forgive verbiage!
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    4. 0
      4 May 2014 18: 33
      Well this Kolyan is just in terrible rage. How so, he was deceived, where are the flowers, where is the bread and salt? Where the hell are the captured separatists and the townspeople writing with joy? Not the right damn war. One fool can not understand, they will burn and shoot them at night in the city, this is not Banderstad for you.
  18. +19
    4 May 2014 07: 36
    the aiming range of RPGs is up to 700 m .. a good grenade launcher may well not knock out so at least scare the crew .. kpvt up to 2000m ... I doubt that from such a distance the gunner of the armored personnel carrier is aiming fire .. of course, these block posts can be called so with great interference, rather a garbage dump .. but knowing approximately the distance from which the armored personnel carrier fires it is quite possible either to knock it out from an RPG, or to catch it on a mine, laying a roadside land mine .. and more .. knowing where the dill are based and having a "nona" based on the BMD it is quite possible to cover base points .. or are there no specialists? night raid ... on the base ... still they will not go into pursuit at night ..
    1. +8
      4 May 2014 10: 36
      The confrontation has not yet reached the level of land mines and night raids.
  19. +44
    4 May 2014 07: 50
    A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .

    I am ashamed. Very much to tears. I live in a monastery. And stupidly perform the Internet warrior. And he took and went to defend the homeland and faith. My peer. Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I am not worthy of my internet stars. I write his name on my commemoration and will serve for repose as a warrior. God forgive me, but how I hate these creatures.
    1. +19
      4 May 2014 08: 28
      Tatarus, if you are really in a monastery, then it’s better to help spiritually. Read the 108 psalm with me.
      The Lord sees everything and will reward nonhumans during this lifetime
      1. 0
        4 May 2014 20: 18
        Thank you MAGADAN
    2. -13
      4 May 2014 08: 30
      Quote: Tatarus
      Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I'm not worthy of my internet stars

      Have you been drinking in the morning?
      1. +7
        4 May 2014 08: 37
        That is, you simply do not perceive manifestations of conscience Uncle Sasha?

        And why in the morning. From the evening drinks

        But it's a real shame. I will remember all the "warlike" conversations with friends. Babalabolism is one.
        1. +4
          4 May 2014 09: 16
          Quote: Tatarus
          That is, you simply do not perceive manifestations of conscience Uncle Sasha?

          And what does it have to advise and rating and sayite. I canceled the rating, but how will this help Ukraine?
          Quote: Tatarus
          And why in the morning. From the evening

          I thought so laughing
          Quote: Tatarus

          But it's a real shame. I will remember all the "warlike" conversations with friends.

          Let there be help, do not worry.
      2. +14
        4 May 2014 08: 38
        I had a dream. I saw blood.
        Her whole Ukraine is flooded.
        Where, Lord, is your love?
        She was killed by the Nazis.

        I am sinful that it is a little faith.
        But how do I believe seeing this?
        Well, really in the list of measures
        There is no item "scum to call to account"?

        Why are the heavens silent?
        Wait until I decide the questions.
        Where is the faith of true beauty?
        In the West, only suction.

        Today I decided for myself.
        No more Ukrainian brothers.
        And the Russians have more strength there.
        And let us all come together.

        Tatarus 04.05.2014
    3. +11
      4 May 2014 08: 36
      Quote: Tatarus
      I am ashamed. Very much to tears. I live in a monastery. And stupidly perform the Internet warrior. And he took and went to defend the homeland and faith. My peer. Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I am not worthy of my internet stars. I write his name on my commemoration and will serve for repose as a warrior. God forgive me, but how I hate these creatures.


      It’s not worth punishing yourself like that.
      I think if for some reason you cannot fulfill your military duty, then you can help with the dissemination of information or help with medicines.
  20. +11
    4 May 2014 08: 13
    But all those who are now defending Slavyansk, all their lives, have paid taxes on the maintenance of ub.yudko.vo, who are now trying to kill them! And some also handed over 5 hryvnias ...
  21. +9
    4 May 2014 08: 27
    Guys, we will definitely take revenge on the Nazi reptile! All will answer - both the junta and the law-abiding and young Bandera! The truth is ours!
    About our troops, there is no "indecision" of Putin. We have good leaders and the moment when the introduction of troops will be beneficial to us, and not to the Americans, they will choose. The blow will be sure. Not where everyone is waiting for him. BUT let's not forget about Assad. Then the Americans will immediately beat him on it. Well, or they will hire someone to get fucked.
    They will arrange any provocation similar to the burning of the inhabitants of Odessa, blame Assad's supporters and fucking up.
    In general, I think the best tactic is that our volunteers passed hot spots. The Chechens and Dagestans won’t even comb their hands, they want to cut Bosko Nazi scum.
    So we have to raise money for volunteers! There are channels where to send help:

    http://www.voicesevas.ru - это сайт Полковника Кассада (надеюсь многие слышали уже)
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/monte99 - трансляция оперативного канала
    https://sites.google.com/site/slavadonbassu/ - реквизиты и ссылки

    I think there is already coordinating. In any case, even if now suddenly volunteers are not needed, but are collected, such a fee will be of great benefit in any case.
    So we don’t sit and whine about "Putinvseprosralmyvseumrem". We distribute information to friends. And on the sly on those who have combat experience and are ready to rip the throats of these non-humans
    1. ASSARU
      +4
      4 May 2014 08: 44
      They need a lot of flies.
      1. 0
        4 May 2014 20: 30
        Yes, they need everything and plenty! Literate guys in the militias, here are not enough weapons! Hang on, guys! good
  22. +5
    4 May 2014 08: 28
    An army in Ukraine is still undesirable. But help with weapons, equipment, equipment, etc. can be provided. Well, volunteers can be transported.
    I don’t even know what to call freaks who kill people under the banners of the Ukrainian army. Fascism has nothing to do with it - this is a purely Italian invention. National Socialism is a German idea. This is a diverse trash, bandits, killers, mercenaries. Just like in the movies - Army of Evil. Only here is not a movie, there is already a peaceful people suppressed, women are being killed. Whatever you call them, the war with them will go on for a long time. And not only in Ukraine.
    1. +3
      4 May 2014 14: 01
      Quote: erased
      Army to enter Ukraine is still undesirable.

      Entering troops will have to "clear up" big problems. But not bringing in troops may cost Russia even more: the South-East of Ukraine will rightly regard this as a betrayal and will hate Putin and Russia; the idea of ​​creating Novorossiya and the dream of the future unification of Novorossiya and Russia will have to part forever; the whole world will assert itself: Russia is scared, Russia is defeated, and henceforth it is necessary to deal with Russia from a position of strength: if it lost to force now, it will continue to yield. The authority acquired by Russia will "burst" like an inflated balloon, Russia will no longer be respected.
    2. His
      0
      4 May 2014 15: 55
      We will well supply the southeast with weapons, they will knock out the right sector and the Ukrainian army. And then what? Where is the money Zin, like Vysotsky. Who will manage the territory? We need the entry of our military forces, the arrival of Yanukovych, the introduction of the ruble zone, integration, if not Russia, into the Eurasian Union or our customs. Without finance, everything will fall in Somalia. A national liberation army is already being created with new goals for other oligarchs. So it will be like the civil war of the last century, until the Reds arrived.
  23. +2
    4 May 2014 08: 30
    Yes, how many more people must die in order for the people to rise to the fight against the Nazis. People remember, because Hitler also started, the same units of attack aircraft also beat and kill all those who disagree. The story repeats itself.
  24. +4
    4 May 2014 08: 34
    According to the news received, the militias of Slavyansk killed a sniper in hand-to-hand combat, presumably a mercenary who had arrived from abroad. According to a Segodnya.ru source, the foreign mercenary did not have any documents; now the identity is being established.
    In favor of the proposed version, there may be evidence of radio interception in which foreign speech was sounded, as well as weapons and ammunition of foreign manufacture not used in the Ukrainian army.
    1. Sinara70
      +2
      4 May 2014 08: 59
      It would be nice to show his corpse in front of television cameras ......
      To see - who is at war with the people of the Southeast ...
    2. Sinara70
      +2
      4 May 2014 08: 59
      It would be nice to show his corpse in front of television cameras ......
      To see - who is at war with the people of the Southeast ...
  25. +1
    4 May 2014 08: 51
    Need more borders and optics, output as written above
    domokl
    Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...

    take them out like secrets on long patrols and beat armored vehicles on return. Those who allegedly threw out the cartridges, but did not shoot at their own, think that they will be so honored if the government changes and again - in the service of their native state. Don't they understand that there won't be that very "State of Ukraine"? A riot in the army, a massive transfer of military units to the side of the SE are very much waiting for.
  26. +2
    4 May 2014 09: 05
    Have they taken Slavyansk, or what? What about Strelkov? Who is in the know?
    1. +7
      4 May 2014 09: 08
      Pensioner hi
      Quote: retired
      Have they taken Slavyansk, or what? What about Strelkov? Who is in the know
      1. +1
        4 May 2014 09: 23
        Good afternoon, Alyosha. In Russia, 24 it was reported that the military almost completely controlled Slavyansk. Is it so?
        1. +3
          4 May 2014 10: 04
          They stand on the approaches to the city while everything is quiet!
          The night in Slavyansk was calm. Good morning to all good people!
          it was written by 10 minutes ago Dmitry Steshin! He definitely informs!
      2. 0
        4 May 2014 09: 23
        Good afternoon, Alyosha. In Russia, 24 it was reported that the military almost completely controlled Slavyansk. Is it so?
  27. +2
    4 May 2014 09: 10
    Children need to send more RPGs and MANPADS.
    1. +1
      4 May 2014 12: 28
      Quote: Sturmann
      Children need to send more RPGs and MANPADS.

      + communications, anti-personnel and night sights, directional anti-personnel mines, hand grenades (anti-personnel and anti-tank), company mortars, large-caliber sniper rifles for counter-sniper combat and much more ...
      And to all this "goodness" of qualified volunteer instructors to train local "personnel" ...
      1. +1
        4 May 2014 14: 11
        Quote: Corsair
        + communications, anti-personnel and night sights, directional anti-personnel mines, hand grenades (anti-personnel and anti-tank), company mortars, large-caliber sniper rifles for counter-sniper combat and much more ...
        And to all this "goodness" of qualified volunteer instructors to train local "personnel" ...

        ..... tanks T-72B3, BMP-3, MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28, aircraft Su-35, also Kantemirovskaya and Taman divisions .... (oh Lord! -The Black Sea Fleet forgot!)
  28. storm wind
    +7
    4 May 2014 09: 18
    On the video .. How many men and only stand and shoot on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there? BUT? Why don't you take up arms and join in! Well, at least some help if you don’t have a weapon. Distract, create a smoke screen .. at least something. Scare ..no stand and take off! And only a small group storms .. There are no words!
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 19: 40
      Quote: Storm Wind
      In the video ..How many men just stand and take pictures on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there?

      These paparazzi assholes need to be taken under control. Set their identities and check the footage.
  29. +5
    4 May 2014 09: 22
    People, what's going on? There, people are already massively burned, killed .... I can’t watch the news, it's not people, how can this be? Ukraine ... uh ... tears come after the news. Mourn
  30. +2
    4 May 2014 09: 44
    Hold on, brothers! We are all heart and soul, being in all corners of vast Russia, we worry about you, rejoice at your victories, upset at your failures, and wait for Russian state support for self-defense detachments.
  31. +15
    4 May 2014 10: 19
    Quote: Storm Wind
    On the video .. How many men and only stand and shoot on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there? BUT? Why don't you take up arms and join in! Well, at least some help if you don’t have a weapon. Distract, create a smoke screen .. at least something. Scare ..no stand and take off! And only a small group storms .. There are no words!

    In Odessa, the 150 people came to the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to demand the release of detainees ..from ONE MILLION ODESSA RESIDENTS!!!!!!! What else to talk about? I carefully watched all the videos - ours, Ukrainian, YouTube, Air Force, SNN ...... An organized crowd walked and put everything that moves with cancer, and Odessa residents ran nearby and cheerfully shot everything on their mobile phones, even jumped to shoot better .. ...

    10 000 000 {TEN MILLIONS) inhabitants in the South = East, and what do we see? 2 500 militias throughout the Donbass and Lugansk region, and even according to indirect data from them about 300 Cossacks made their way to them. No weapons ???
    And why I apologize h .. and only in Lugansk itself "uncovered" were and what have 6 military units still to do with it ??? And how many are there in the regions ?? As a military man, I will responsibly say for those who do not know - in the weapon rooms with any number of l / s there is only one third of all the weapons available in part - the rest is in warehouses as a mobilization reserve. This is an axiom, as in any country where there is an assigned reserve contingent. Or maybe there is simply no desire to arm?

    In Lugansk, on the streets, from the strength of 1 000 militias run there and even less - where the rest are at least 100 000 healthy adult Russian-speaking men ???

    In Donesk ONE MILLION residents - where at least 20 00 on the streets ?? In Kharkov, with its two millionth population, the maximum 10 00 was at the peak of the tests ... By the way, the rioters came to Odessa from Kharkov - are their names already known or is Kharkov applauding its heroes ???

    Я
    1. +1
      4 May 2014 14: 51
      I fully support you completely. Half of them are all in favor of Kiev’s power. And the second half itself vaguely understands what they want. We set up some fake barricades, they seize unnecessary buildings for some reason ... Everyone sits alone. . Someone is fighting, and someone just running takes off everything on his mobile phone. The spectacle is shorter. And this despite the fact that they loudly announced mobilization. Before this is stated, we must remember that mobilization is war. under the gun, deserter. And that’s all. With the corresponding consequences. But you need to arm these mobilized people. And you had to think about it in advance. And disarm those units of the military and other special forces that refuse to obey. And arm those conscripts. Well, here too it’s not all. This crowd is armed. It’s necessary to have a clear organization. There’s a need for commanders. Then, if all this is possible, then you can fight. And do not talk all kinds of nonsense, like Putin should help. He doesn’t owe you anything.
    2. His
      0
      4 May 2014 19: 39
      Keep quiet! The people there are passive. Russian people are farmers and disciplined people, moreover, the most unorganized nation in the world. But warriors are good if they fight for the truth. Remember Chechnya, Central Asia simply fled. What is wrong with the fact that the people worked for their country, did not want any war. In addition, they were taught to be second-class citizens. I need the help of mother Russia, without this in any way.
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    4. +1
      6 May 2014 10: 52
      I support your fair indignation, in any other country after what happened in Odessa, pravosek would be slaughtered like cattle, and in Ukraine only a handful of real men is resisting. Correctly, Vladimir Vladimirovich does not take measures, otherwise these with phones and then our boys will be scammed in foreign mass media, and maybe shot in the back.
  32. +35
    4 May 2014 10: 20
    I could not sleep yesterday, anger choked ... Behind 30 years of service, children grew up ... If my child would be killed there, in the House of Trade Unions ... I would not smear snot ...
    After all, these pogromists haven’t left anywhere, they hang out in the center of Odessa shouting slogans .. Reinforcements arrived, and according to my information the regiment of the national guard of military unit 3039 is moving from Nikolaev as a whole .... And most importantly, among them the sea of ​​inhabitants of Odessa, residents of Odessa already identified merrily and dexterously poured bottles - these knots are still alive ????

    And you moan here and write curses against Putin ??? The hand rises ???
    WHY ENTER THE TROOPS ??? Who to protect - 10-20 00 of 10 millions ???

    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    Is it to them to introduce our boys? for slaughter ??? To ridicule ??? Where are 500 000 miners of Donbass ??? With Kyle then they will throw on our armored personnel carriers ???

    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... It was the first time since 1979 of the year I saw how young boys die ... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus ...
    1. Luger
      +10
      4 May 2014 10: 44
      Yes, the miners from Donbass were only indignant that they were given a small salary, and then they calmed down, they saw the salary raised, the whole question was removed. Therefore, I support that it is not worthwhile to introduce troops so far, such as (I don’t know how), help with weapons and people (I think we will definitely find those who wish). And so we can also remain extreme and indeed the people of Ukraine will definitely perceive us as occupiers, a good example of Odessa (by the way, until yesterday I thought that Odessa was more about a Russian city), their people are being burned alive by visiting Natsiks, and they are screwing up their ass. shoved, and the cops also helped, which burned better. No matter how cynical it may sound, but we still have to wait until the rest of the people of the grief will grab and eat up with European integration.
      1. +4
        4 May 2014 10: 58
        Quote: Luger
        Therefore, I support that it’s not worthwhile to deploy troops so far, somehow (I don’t know how) to help with weapons and people

        Maybe not worth it yet. Here are the news from Mariupol. There, people organize themselves. They have practically no weapons .....


        The organizer of one of the battle groups from Azovmash is in touch with us, here is his message:
        From minute to minute, the assault of the city executive committee in Mariupol has already begun. There is a shooting. The center is cordoned off, webcams are disabled. According to activists, only armed people and representatives of the DPR remained in the city executive committee. According to information from friends from New Yalta (25 km. From the city), 8 tanks proceeded towards Mariupol. From Urzuf (40 km.) It was reported that BMD reached Mariupol.
        Local activists intercepted one BMD of the Ukrainian army in the Rybatskoye village area, 5 personnel are in local hands.
        Two helicopters over the course of an hour from 20.30 to 21.30 in Kiev flew over the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov in the New Yalta region.

        PS. They just reported that the first attack on the city executive committee was repelled.

        Currently, in Mariupol, among the local population, the creation of combat groups from among reserve troops is ongoing. There are practically no weapons, but people are ready to go hand to hand.

        Shooting near the city executive committee was opened by people in the form of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. They fired solitary, but from military weapons. Now about 500 peaceful people gathered outside the city executive committee
    2. 0
      4 May 2014 10: 57
      I completely agree with you, I also monitor the situation. When there is no agreement among the comrades, this will not work .... But there have been no comrades in Ukraine for a very long time. Draw Russia into armed conflict? Why, who needs it?
      1. 0
        4 May 2014 11: 02
        Is this still not clear to you?
    3. +4
      4 May 2014 11: 03
      I agree with you 100%! With such local "support" ours have nothing to do there. And all Tymoshenko, Poroshenko and so on with ice axes and summed up live - for the Odessa massacre.
    4. Bob
      +2
      4 May 2014 11: 25
      Quote: Santor
      The elimination of creatures, in a quiet .. Why Mossad can and we do not ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....

      Negotiations with clowns like a tie Saakashvili ?! It will not be this. And the followers of Sahak ... will face the same fate - the court, the tribunal, the expulsion, the curses of the descendants.
      The elimination of creatures is the only language they understand.
      Blood was spilled, and these creatures will answer for it, they will definitely answer. The civilian population of the East took up arms and is ready to defend their land. This is a war, but this war was not unleashed by the Ukrainians themselves, its organizers are in the "prosperous" West, which will pay and will pay dearly for its bloody policy.
      Wake up Europeans, you are led by vampires who are thirsty for blood and ready to sacrifice you ... It’s not too late yet, and you can avoid a lot of blood and stop your politicians who declare war, pass black and white and vice versa. They are mired in lies and act in the interests of a very small group of financial tycoons requiring global domination and not taking into account the interests of the majority. Wake up, stop these bloodsuckers.
    5. Iva58
      +2
      4 May 2014 12: 11
      Santor, I completely agree with you. I will only add that Ukraine should be liberated by soldiers with Ukrainian (for now) passports, thus excluding partisan resistance from the "zombie" and accusations of aggression. Any state is a bureaucratic pyramid, therefore it is necessary to eliminate the top, and it is better to replace it by force, then it will be possible to restore control over the WHOLE territory
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    7. +5
      4 May 2014 12: 29
      Quote: Santor
      THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!!

      Yes, most of them were not going to become Russia! In fact of the matter. Most of them wanted a "separate hut on the edge" - federalization! So that everything earned in the region remains and is distributed! So that "independence" from Kiev was! Therefore, there is no such zeal as in the Crimea.
      Secondly - How many years ago Crimea was annexed and how many years ago Novorossia was annexed to the Kiva province, etc. People no longer perceive themselves as part of Russia! On the contrary, they fear that Russian oligarchs will sit on their necks along with Ukrainian ones. Moreover, the media is constantly pumping how bad people live in Crimea now, and special films show "how bad people live in the outback of Russia."
    8. +6
      4 May 2014 12: 49
      you don’t need to watch ukrosi, there are many productions, provocations, propaganda and other lies.

      but that’s why these screamers are without weapons, without Molotov cocktails, which prevented them from enrolling in the city’s self-defense, because this is their city.

      One thing is obvious, unfortunately in 20-25 years, and especially in the last 10 years, a large part of the population of Ukraine and the South-East has turned into an inactive, passive biomass ..
      Western propaganda is brainwashing, and the population believes in it. They brought up a whole generation of Russophobia, where did their parents look?
      "My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything," but when trouble comes to the house, everyone is to blame at once, but not them.
      With this number of people, only a small part resists.
      It would be enough to leave 5-10 thousand people and there would not be a tragedy in Odessa, cowards are cowardly, they can arrange only punitive operations with overwhelming superiority in numbers and strength ..

      Regarding the deployment of troops, this is not a straightforward matter, because the population is passive.
      Therefore, as an option, if it comes to that, hold a quick referendum to understand the mood of the population.
      I think the majority is still for Russia, but they are passive and can show their will only when they do everything for them.
      Therefore, the best option for today is a proven method in the Crimea, you need to do the same thing, militias undercover.

      One more thing is not clear why Lugansk and Donbas have been sitting on their ass for a month, it has long been necessary to reassign all the forces on their territory, take army depots and arm the population, and most importantly free the border with Russia, so that at least supply can be provided.
      1. +4
        4 May 2014 13: 44
        Quote: Victor1
        but that’s why these screamers are without weapons, without Molotov cocktails, which prevented them from enrolling in the city’s self-defense, because this is their city.

        In one of the cities on the highway "Donetsk - Lugansk" at the executive committee there is an office in which they record in self-defense.
        It happens as follows:
        -you present your passport and B \ B, you are entered into the registry, leave your phone number and ... that's it !!!

        They say wait, "in case we call you."
        Not weapons, not the slightest tactical training, no working off interaction.

        It seems that this "self-defense" was created by officials for a "tick" so that people would not forget about them ...

        And regarding this situation with an armored personnel carrier on the streets of Kramatorsk, I would like to note that it is extremely unreasonable to use a "cocktail" in this situation because of the impossibility of ensuring the withdrawal and cover of the "thrower".

        Let the guys crush the Nazis morally, let them save themselves for more important actions.
        It is important that they have the ROD, motivation ...
        1. 0
          6 May 2014 11: 10
          I would create such a point to identify all those who disagree and for subsequent extermination.
          And there are private security organizations in the Southeast, and what they do, and where they hide with their weapons.
          There is a completely legal way to protect the population from dill, or not.
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      2. +1
        4 May 2014 19: 15
        One thing pleases, they do not welcome them with flowers, which means that tomorrow they will take a "filthy broom" and see uninvited guests!
    9. alexander20
      +3
      4 May 2014 14: 28
      I completely agree. until they organize themselves and rise up there is nothing for us to do there. and it will turn out, as always, they will sell Russia and substitute. my great-grandfather told me how many of the Ukrainians "fought" against the Nazis in the cellars in the farmsteads. and our Siberians died in batches for these bastards. and then until the age of 54 they beat them in the woods and imprisoned them. so it was necessary to beat them to the end, you cannot plant them only to beat them. this is how the entire southeast is organized, then we will help.
    10. alexander20
      +1
      4 May 2014 14: 28
      I completely agree. until they organize themselves and rise up there is nothing for us to do there. and it will turn out, as always, they will sell Russia and substitute. my great-grandfather told me how many of the Ukrainians "fought" against the Nazis in the cellars in the farmsteads. and our Siberians died in batches for these bastards. and then until the age of 54 they beat them in the woods and imprisoned them. so it was necessary to beat them to the end, you cannot plant them only to beat them. this is how the entire southeast is organized, then we will help.
    11. +3
      4 May 2014 14: 30
      Quote: Santor
      THEY DON'T RIPE AS THE CRIMEA FOR WHAT WOULD BECOME RUSSIA !!!

      I agree with you, because. I hold the same opinion. Alas, there is a long-standing Russian tradition: "here comes the master, the master will judge us." But if Russia confines itself to verbal appeals, threats, promises to draw conclusions and nothing more, then the entire Western (pro-Western) world will draw its own conclusions: Russia has been defeated, Russia has yielded to force. Now it is necessary to "talk" with Russia from a position of strength: if it gave way, it will give way and henceforth many times.
    12. +2
      4 May 2014 14: 59
      Quote: Santor
      I could not sleep yesterday, anger stifled ...


      The exact same feelings ... I watched a bunch of streams at the same time, almost from the very beginning, from the moment the police squeezed anti-Maidan from the building with the right sector .. Immediately shouted - "What are the cops doing ?? !! THEY ARE THERE WITH THE AUTOMATONS !!! (about the "right sector", they took refuge in the building) ". The result - the cops did not go into the building either themselves or with the anti-Maidan. Then everything went on increasing, "parallel" processions, provocations, (some h (m) blow shot at the anti-Maidan activists, was captured, not really beaten, and surrendered to the police !!! DO NOT READ !!!). The meeting of the columns, right there on the anti-Maidan (on the move) a bunch of boulders, light-noise and gas grenades, claps of shots (so far, apparently "traumatized"). Then everything is uphill, growing. There is no power to describe everything, there are fragmentary records on the network. But !!! Watching just the videos DOES NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED IN ODESSA! I HAPPENED to see it all in full. What is happening in my soul now, just can not convey. That this was a PROVOCATION was immediately apparent. There were more than two times less activists against the "ultras" and the "right sector" (according to my visual estimates - about five hundred, against the 1st, 1,5 thousand), then there was practically one "anti-Maidan self-defense" ( in the region of one hundred, maximum at the peak of two hundred), the rest scattered ... Then at the crossroads (at which there were no particular collisions) a corpse of a boy of an UNCONNECTED ACCESSORY TO ANY OF ANY PARTIES appeared from somewhere (no symbolism) !!!! I thought, everything, krindets ... Immediately - unleashing hysteria by the conductors of the maydauns, cockroach of the police escaping in different directions (the right-wingers appealed to them, beat the cars, but they screwed), and an attack went on the blocked remnants of the anti-Maidan self-defense ... At the same time, lagging loners with St. George ribbons were beaten and killed .. Including torn from the cops, weakly trying to protect someone .. Then Kulikovo field, the House of Trade Unions ... It was impossible to watch, it was impossible to leave ... A terrible feeling of powerlessness and misunderstanding - HOW IS IT POSSIBLE ???? .... Odessa, shame on you, this is not a complete feeling .. It was scary to look at the townspeople with telephones (a video video of fun, ... la), strolling with CHILDREN (!!!!!!) near the burning building of the House of Trade Unions, while the crowd wanted to jump out of the window and raged, screaming slogans and urging everyone to kill ... Ah, Odessa ... What should you do to be forgiven for allowing ... I am writing this, and again very, very badly, the pictures of what happened do not let go ... I can not anymore . For reference, I watched streams from all sides, from the maydowns the streams were also very expressive, BUT !!! If these streams were carefully analyzed, they themselves were not ready for such a development of events, although they carefully avoided very DUSY moments !!! In addition, for some reason, the recordings of these streams are NOT SAVED either completely or partially! Question to experts, is it possible to restore them ???? And thanks for the courage to the two Odessa girls from the anti-Aidan, who, in frustrated, sagging voices almost until the very end, were reporting from the burning House of Trade Unions. Heaven to the lost.
      1. His
        0
        20 May 2014 23: 48
        And what happens when someone starts beating or insulting someone in an electric train? That's right - everyone either looks out the window together or takes off stealthily on the phone (show a friend). And in a country that has no idiology, fascism flourishes well
  33. +5
    4 May 2014 10: 31
    pf ... CNN from the scene ..... "pro-Russian rebels with weapons are still visible in the city ..."

    pro-Russian rebels with weapons it sounds intimidating, I like it.
  34. +4
    4 May 2014 10: 33
    Hang on guys! You stand, I believe!
    Kiev creatures that are now at the helm - do not run away, in the west nobody needs you and sooner or later they will get their own
  35. +1
    4 May 2014 10: 39
    Finally, sensible information! I have been waiting for this for a long time, everything is concise, of course. In this form, it is necessary to provide information from the front! Thank. We are waiting for more.
  36. dik-fort
    +1
    4 May 2014 10: 43
    Quote: Hnikar
    We need to help with weapons at least

    And money, the war is expensive, The Fund for Assistance to Self-Defense Detachments of the South-East of Ukraine http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ It is unlikely that the ministers-millionaires of the Russian government will fork out, but will not lose money from me, I transferred to the Crimea as much as I can, since I myself there is no physical ability to help with arms.
  37. +5
    4 May 2014 10: 44
    Quote: Santor
    I could not sleep yesterday, anger choked ... Behind 30 years of service, children grew up ... If my child would be killed there, in the House of Trade Unions ... I would not smear snot ...
    After all, these pogromists haven’t left anywhere, they hang out in the center of Odessa shouting slogans .. Reinforcements arrived, and according to my information the regiment of the national guard of military unit 3039 is moving from Nikolaev as a whole .... And most importantly, among them the sea of ​​inhabitants of Odessa, residents of Odessa already identified merrily and dexterously poured bottles - these knots are still alive ????

    And you moan here and write curses against Putin ??? The hand rises ???
    WHY ENTER THE TROOPS ??? Who to protect - 10-20 00 of 10 millions ???

    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    Is it to them to introduce our boys? for slaughter ??? To ridicule ??? Where are 500 000 miners of Donbass ??? With Kyle then they will throw on our armored personnel carriers ???

    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... It was the first time since 1979 of the year I saw how young boys die ... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus ...

    The video allegedly from Kramatorsk is a stupid fake! Hammer the Anti-Maidan or the South-East into a search engine and look with what obscenities the ordinary inhabitants of Kramatorsk greeted the "liberators"!
  38. +1
    4 May 2014 11: 23
    We must burn tanks with Molotov cocktails !!!! Eh, to plant weapons on them !!! Yes, adjust the SU-25 !!!
    1. +2
      4 May 2014 11: 25
      Arch-wise thought
    2. +1
      4 May 2014 14: 37
      Quote: Hope1960
      We must burn the tanks with Molotov cocktails !!!

      Quote: Den 11
      Arch-wise thought

      Modern tanks - "Molotov cocktails"? Yes, you have not only a woman's name, but you are also a "blonde"!
      1. +1
        4 May 2014 15: 13
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Modern tanks - "Molotov cocktails"?

        Firstly, they are not very "modern";

        Secondly - in all the reviewed material on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, TANK I have not yet seen (I will look at my opinion if someone provides material confirming otherwise);

        Thirdly, the MOST "SUPER-POOPER" modern tank will not resist the "archaic bottle".
        1. +1
          4 May 2014 16: 48
          Quote: Corsair
          Firstly, they are not very "modern";

          Secondly - in all the reviewed material on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, TANK I have not yet seen (I will look at my opinion if someone provides material confirming otherwise);

          Thirdly, the MOST "SUPER-POOPER" modern tank will not resist the "archaic bottle"

          First: Before the T-72, T-90-not strong and "modern", but before the Pzlll? Secondly: this is a response to the proposal: "burn TANKS with Molotov cocktails." Also: the tanks are attached to the troops "storming" the South-East. Thirdly: modern tanks are equipped with Means of Protection against fire mixtures. This was caused by not so effective use of incendiary bottles, but by the widespread use of napalm ammunition in the 50-60s. out of a hundred), if the defenders throw bottles of fire mixture at the "object", but "lay down" dozens of their fighters.
  39. Polarfox
    +3
    4 May 2014 11: 23
    ASKING CROSS
    I’m a military man myself and I want to give advice to people who stop equipment with a human shield ...
    you can stand, lie in front of them, but that won’t help, you won’t be able to stop them if they really get an order to break through (and as we know they already got it), you won’t be able to disable the equipment, but you can harm them .. So:

    1.If you come close to the technique, take a spray of the most resistant paint and paint over the triplex (devices for driving, aiming, shooting, adjustments) This will blind the car ... try to pull out or break the antenna, so the car will not be able to "speak and listen "! And you won't get far without communication!

    2. Paint one headlight on the car - it will work like a friend or foe system. If a car with one headlight approaches a checkpoint or a strong point, then you can safely work to defeat! ! I saw that there are grenade launchers and anti-tank weapons! I saw a car with one headlight or a column - work to kill first, otherwise they will destroy you!

    3. If the projector near you sprinkles paint on its back, red or glowing in the dark.
    1. +6
      4 May 2014 12: 43
      What kind of advice is it easier to die? Just like this military man has already survived out of his mind. Do you have to ask a mechanic to mount the antenna? And how high is the btera and where is the antenna? And the landing on the armor will help you paint the triplexes differently. In which army did that adviser serve I don’t know, but not exactly in the Soviet and idiotic. I can’t understand the warriors do not know the area at night the equipment is not in the city. Why do fights in the city at night fire at panic and retreat stretching hello to mom and corpses and so a couple nights there is no war and punishers will cross over. What is there that there are no SA officers chtoli to crank up.
    2. +1
      4 May 2014 12: 43
      What kind of advice is it easier to die? Just like this military man has already survived out of his mind. Do you have to ask a mechanic to mount the antenna? And how high is the btera and where is the antenna? And the landing on the armor will help you paint the triplexes differently. In which army did that adviser serve I don’t know, but not exactly in the Soviet and idiotic. I can’t understand the warriors do not know the area at night the equipment is not in the city. Why do fights in the city at night fire at panic and retreat stretching hello to mom and corpses and so a couple nights there is no war and punishers will cross over. What is there that there are no SA officers chtoli to crank up.
  40. +10
    4 May 2014 11: 24
    In the area of ​​the fire station No. 38, located in the Artyom microdistrict, an attempt was made to penetrate into the city center militants of the "National Guard" on 2 buses with the support of 1 armored personnel carriers. The enemy was fired from small arms and suffered losses. There are no victims from the militia.
    It was a bit wrong. 1 armored personnel carrier was and 10 man on it. At the entrance to the fire, the meters behind 150 landed and on foot with the support of an armored personnel carrier tried to overcome a checkpoint (tiny-tiny - 3 m wide). A little in the distance stood a machine of militias (unarmed), they fired at it from AK-74 and PKP. Then a particularly brave warrior ran to the beginning of the fire boxes and tried to hit the car from an RPG. Fortunately, it turned out to be either oblique or nervous - the grenade got stuck in a tree (200 diameter mm) and the jet went into the parapet of the lawn. If it weren’t for the tree, there would be victims in the 5 floor opposite. Nobody fired at the warriors.

    “Information about the three knocked down turntables was not confirmed. As often happens, two different divisions “chalked up” the same helicopter. But 2 Mi-24 is also good, I think.
    Confirmed. The third helicopter - Mi-8. He was shot at from one of the checkpoints, received numerous injuries, and is now at the airport near Kramatorsk.
    The rest is more or less truthful information regarding Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.

    Sincerely, the civilian of the hero city of Slavyansk hi
  41. +6
    4 May 2014 11: 29
    Eternal memory to Sergey Zhurikov and the militias who died during the defense of Russia !!! Rise, Russia !!!
  42. +4
    4 May 2014 11: 36
    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    And the rest of Kramatorsk residents showed ukrosmi? lol
  43. +3
    4 May 2014 11: 38
    Quote: Santor
    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... Since 1979, for the first time I saw how young boys are dying .... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus.

    And I agree!
  44. +5
    4 May 2014 11: 39
    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!!

    And who told you that all the polls of Donbass want to go to Russia? For us, Russia is a symbol of understanding and support.
  45. +2
    4 May 2014 11: 40
    Quote: domokl
    Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...
    Commander, dabble at the expense of flying units ... This is really a strong move ... Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...

    My thoughts were ahead. Another night flashed. hi
  46. dik-fort
    +1
    4 May 2014 12: 07
    A good informative article "To the events in Odessa and Kramatorsk" http://sha-julin.livejournal.com/56392.html
  47. Leshka
    +1
    4 May 2014 12: 15
    they need to put their arms at least
  48. 0
    4 May 2014 12: 18
    I will join the above. Every day they watch news on TV and on the Internet. I'm worried as if all this is happening in a neighboring city. Of course it is a pity that not all the population of Donbass supports the Antichrist. It is necessary to be united then the victory will be just around the corner !!!
    Hang on guys.
    PS: but you do not need to trust the Ukrainian media! There is no truth !!! There is only what they want and how they want, to present the Kiev junta to the West !!!
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 15: 17
      Quote: Veles75
      Of course it’s a pity that not all the population of Donbass supports antichrist.

      Has OAK DECLINED? angry fool Ask your moderator to delete your comment!

      You start with the wrong "life" on the site ...
  49. +1
    4 May 2014 12: 28
    that’s how small battles will go before the referendum.
  50. +8
    4 May 2014 12: 31
    I repeat my post - rejoice!

    In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"

    In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"

    http://lifenews.ru/static/posts/2014/05/132550/faba82e552466a33fd01737e2538cc7b.
    jpg

    On the phone with Vasily Budik, supporters of federalization found his correspondence with the acting Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, in which Budik reports that in the near future he is ready to assemble a battalion of 600-800 people. According to the militias, Budik is a citizen of Georgia.
    Russian Spring
    1. Com T-64a
      0
      4 May 2014 18: 41
      "Go missing him" ...
  51. +1
    4 May 2014 12: 33
    Respect is earned by people who defend their convictions to the end... THE TRUTH is yours

    We need to move on to the tactics of assault groups on the front line... a sniper... grenade launchers... a machine gunner and several machine gunners are required... in such battles this is effective... targeted strikes are possible at night...
  52. southeast
    +3
    4 May 2014 12: 33
    Quote: Santor
    No weapons???
    And why I apologize h .. and only in Lugansk itself "uncovered" were and what have 6 military units still to do with it ??? And how many are there in the regions ?? As a military man, I will responsibly say for those who do not know - in the weapon rooms with any number of l / s there is only one third of all the weapons available in part - the rest is in warehouses as a mobilization reserve. This is an axiom, as in any country where there is an assigned reserve contingent. Or maybe there is simply no desire to arm?

    How nice! And what follows from this? Are the warehouses not guarded? Will they provide you with everything you want? Don't want to take it? You will say: “encompass”, “capture”... Firstly, you still need to be able to do this. At a minimum, you must go through special forces school. And secondly: armed with rakes taken from home, you definitely won’t seize warehouses, much less weapons rooms. The “right-wingers” don’t worry about this issue. They come up to the table, sign their name, receive a machine gun and a set of the required uniform... So it’s easier said than done. Although, of course, this is not a reason to sit back.
  53. +1
    4 May 2014 12: 35
    in the meantime ...

    Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk travels to Odessa to meet with local politicians and public figures.

    – Yatsenyuk’s meeting with the public should begin very soon. And at three o’clock Moscow time the prime minister is scheduled to talk to the press. The day before, a statement appeared regarding the deaths of people in the House of Trade Unions of the local police. It follows from it that people threw Molotov cocktails and set themselves on fire.

    The Odessa internal affairs bodies expect that the issue of personnel changes will be resolved first of all at the meeting. They must happen both in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and in the regional government system.

    In Kyiv they are going to convene the Verkhovna Rada for a plenary session. People's Deputy of Ukraine Nikolai Rudkovsky insists on this. He blames Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, appointed by the new government, for the events in the south of the country and insists on his resignation.

    Criminal cases have been opened into the death of dozens of people in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. More than 170 people were detained on suspicion of crime. After investigative actions, some of them were released.

    They will make Avakov the extreme player and they will throw everything at him. And they will make a reshuffle.
  54. +2
    4 May 2014 12: 54
    What about the help from Crimea? do they keep silence? or have you already caught up?
  55. +1
    4 May 2014 12: 59
    Have you prepared a Molotov cocktail for Herr Gauleiter Yaitsenyuk and his minions?
  56. BelPartizan
    +1
    4 May 2014 13: 25
    Thanks a lot! The most important information for today, I offer it widely REPOST everywhere! soldier
  57. PRN
    +1
    4 May 2014 13: 27
    Well done militias! But it’s time to move from active defense to guerrilla actions, to destroy commanders and especially active punitive forces.
  58. +1
    4 May 2014 13: 27
    Dig trenches - they are safer than barricades and sandbags!
  59. Eydolon
    +6
    4 May 2014 13: 45
    Summary for the morning of May 4 from the "Gubarevites".

    We survived! We have kept all our positions! We inflicted crushing losses on the junta troops! They retreated in all directions!
    THE WORLD HAS NOT SEEN ANOTHER HEROISM: PEACEFUL PEOPLE AND DONBASS MILITARIANS RESPONSE TO THE ARMED ATTACKS OF THE REGULAR FORCES AND FORCES OF THE CRIMINAL KIEV JUNE.
    Now the enemy knows: WHO WITH THE SWORD WILL COME TO US, FROM THE SWORD AND KILL. THERE STANDED AND THE RUSSIAN EARTH WILL STAND!

    SLAVYANSK - fierce fighting on the outskirts of the city, the junta troops suffered losses and retreated, withdrawing equipment from the city
    ANDREYEVKA - freed, the troops fled so that one APC turned upside down
    KRAMATORSK - heavy fighting, the city defended, there are losses, Kiev troops retreated
    KONSTANTINOVKA - heavy fighting, the enemy suffered significant losses and retreated, the city under the control of the militia
    GOROVLKA - heavy fighting on the outskirts of the city at checkpoints, the junta attack is stopped, troops are thrown back with significant losses
    ARTEMOVSK - battles at checkpoints, positions maintained, the enemy suffered losses
    MARIUPOL - an attempt to clean up the city executive committee, the whole city came out, unarmed Mariupol residents stopped the assault, threw the enemy back, the private bank branch of the fascist Kolomoisky was destroyed, the office of the Batkivshchyna party was defeated
    DONETSK - the SBU, the investigative department of the SBU, the regional military registration and enlistment office, a number of checkpoints were taken under control, the office of the ISD was destroyed - "Taruta - get out of Donbass!"
    LUGANSK - the military commissariat was taken under control, the attacks of the junta troops were repulsed, the enemy suffered significant losses
    WE COULD RESIST! WE SUPPORT MATUS-RUSSIA, THE WHOLE PROGRESSIVE WORLD!
    THE EXPERIENCES OF DONBASS RESIDENTS WILL GO INTO HISTORY AS A SAMPLE OF COURAGE, FORCE OF SPIRIT, BROTHERHOOD!
    DO NOT WAIT AND DO NOT ASK HELP! DO IT YOURSELF! LIBERATE THE WHOLE DONBASS, THE WHOLE SOUTH-EAST FROM Fascism!
    ODESSA - WE WILL NOT FORGET! WE WILL REVEAL!
    In Slavyansk, new recruits are waiting for the people's militia.
    Come with documents, find the local department of the former SBU - and you're in the ranks!
  60. 0
    4 May 2014 13: 45
    Gifts must be returned. The map of Ukraine appeared for the FIRST TIME (!) In 1922, before that the Ottoman Empire, Austria-Hungary, Rzeczpospolita, the Russian Empire "had" it for centuries, BUT AS THE STATE HAS NEVER BEEN. SEE THE RESULTS.
  61. +3
    4 May 2014 14: 06
    One of the warm meetings of yesterday's Kramatorsk
  62. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 16
    Slavyansk has moved to clear the streets of Pravosek, everyone is armed, checking all the cracks and basements.
  63. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 20
    I don’t understand at all how the militias got together to fight? Sandbags, tires, the time of the Parisian commune is gone forever. A speeding Zhiguli car will sweep away these bags and the people behind them. Has anyone ever served in the army? First of all, you need to dig in at the defended position, but did you make any traps? There was a lot of time.
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 15: 07
      the most trained militia, as I believe, are in Slovyansk!
      as Vladimir Vysotsky wrote, “there are few truly violent ones - so there are no leaders!”
      “There are more good people, but the bad ones are better organized!”
  64. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 48
    Tactically, the Defenders are losing. At what time of day are they attacked? At night. And at night, the fascists should not think about an assault, but defend themselves from mobile groups. And shoot from everything that shoots, preferably at your own people. “Cart tactics” The Israelis used it widely and successfully. Mr. Sharon (deceased) Before leading the State of Israel, he successfully chased Arabs in small (but very daring) groups in jeeps with machine guns. I didn’t tie them up to lead the initiative, but they itched for a long time and lost it (the initiative).
  65. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 55
    Guys, GOD is with you!
    Bless and save.
    On May 9 there will be a parade in Moscow in your honor!!!!!
  66. 0
    4 May 2014 15: 11
    Thank you and God bless you!
  67. russianskijbelarus
    0
    4 May 2014 15: 57
    4.30 in the morning... On June 22 it was also at four in the morning...
  68. +1
    4 May 2014 16: 10
    Quote: Santor
    Quote: Storm Wind
    On the video .. How many men and only stand and shoot on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there? BUT? Why don't you take up arms and join in! Well, at least some help if you don’t have a weapon. Distract, create a smoke screen .. at least something. Scare ..no stand and take off! And only a small group storms .. There are no words!

    In Odessa, the 150 people came to the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to demand the release of detainees ..from ONE MILLION ODESSA RESIDENTS!!!!!!! What else to talk about? I carefully watched all the videos - ours, Ukrainian, YouTube, Air Force, SNN ...... An organized crowd walked and put everything that moves with cancer, and Odessa residents ran nearby and cheerfully shot everything on their mobile phones, even jumped to shoot better .. ...

    10 000 000 {TEN MILLIONS) inhabitants in the South = East, and what do we see? 2 500 militias throughout the Donbass and Lugansk region, and even according to indirect data from them about 300 Cossacks made their way to them. No weapons ???
    And why I apologize h .. and only in Lugansk itself "uncovered" were and what have 6 military units still to do with it ??? And how many are there in the regions ?? As a military man, I will responsibly say for those who do not know - in the weapon rooms with any number of l / s there is only one third of all the weapons available in part - the rest is in warehouses as a mobilization reserve. This is an axiom, as in any country where there is an assigned reserve contingent. Or maybe there is simply no desire to arm?

    In Lugansk, on the streets, from the strength of 1 000 militias run there and even less - where the rest are at least 100 000 healthy adult Russian-speaking men ???

    In Donesk ONE MILLION residents - where at least 20 00 on the streets ?? In Kharkov, with its two millionth population, the maximum 10 00 was at the peak of the tests ... By the way, the rioters came to Odessa from Kharkov - are their names already known or is Kharkov applauding its heroes ???

    Я

    So I say, the moment for sending troops has not yet come. No matter how cynical it may sound, this is not our war yet. Let the Ukrainians decide for themselves which way to swing.... hi
    1. s1н7т
      0
      4 May 2014 21: 32
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      No matter how cynical it may sound, this is not our war yet. Let the Ukrainians decide for themselves which way to swing....

      That's right - a quilted jacket! laughing Illiterate - how did you pass the Unified State Exam? laughing And how did they get accepted into school?! laughing To understand, there is no such nation as “Ukrainians”! These are Russians! And there has never been a state “Ukraine” - this is Rus', however. And many people have relatives living on that side. And you are “not our war”! Maybe it’s not yours, then admit that your quilted jacket is from the Chinese market, and you receive your salary in United Russia.
  69. +5
    4 May 2014 17: 10
    Quote: svp67
    Kyiv’s words about “success” in Kramatorsk are far from reality
    Banderlog learned from their American masters to blatantly lie to the whole world
  70. 0
    4 May 2014 18: 06
    Quote: Russian quilted jacket
    So I say, the moment for sending troops has not yet come. No matter how cynical it may sound, this is not our war yet. Let the Ukrainians decide for themselves which way to swing....

    Several thousand Odessa residents stormed the police department and freed dozens of federalization supporters who had previously been arrested in a building set on fire by right-wing activists
  71. dilyanna
    0
    4 May 2014 18: 22
    We believe in you!!! We support the truth of the common people!!!
  72. 0
    4 May 2014 19: 00
    Quote: Victor1
    you don’t need to watch ukrosi, there are many productions, provocations, propaganda and other lies.


    On the contrary, I look at everything, I’m a very, very big boy.. I take all the information, then filter it through a colander and divide it in half....


    Quote: Djubal
    Several thousand Odessa residents stormed the police department and freed dozens of federalization supporters who had previously been arrested in a building set on fire by right-wing activists

    Well, what about confirmation??? I only know for now that my native Odessa police opened fire on people.... I myself am sitting waiting for news....
  73. vazat
    +3
    4 May 2014 19: 05
    Until the entire people of South-East Ukraine rises up, we will continue to read reports of the deaths of civilians. The militia is strong in spirit, but weak in numbers. They are supported by the people, but there is no unity among them either. It is necessary to increase the capabilities of information warfare and attract new people into our ranks. It is necessary to understand that three forces are currently acting against the people of South-West Ukraine. Firstly, the oligarchs who do not want to lose everything they have “acquired legally.” Secondly, the constantly stoned Nazis are right-wingers, whose truth of life is diametrically opposed to the life principles of the population of south-eastern Ukraine. And finally, thirdly, the United States and its European assistants, whose goal, as everyone already understands, is to weaken Russia by creating an arc of controlled tension around its territory. It is a pity that in its dispute with us (Russia), the United States is making our brotherly people suffer, which, it seems to me, is confused and lost.
  74. 0
    4 May 2014 19: 52
    After the parade, we need to rush to them straight from Red Square... just like in 41.
  75. 0
    4 May 2014 20: 46
    Not in numbers, but in skill - there are not enough professionals and equipment!
  76. 0
    4 May 2014 20: 51
    a gas cylinder is a good thing against armored personnel carriers and Pravosek infantry
  77. s1н7т
    0
    4 May 2014 21: 39
    It seems to me that many here misunderstand: 1. Ukraine is part of Russia; 2. OUR people are killed there, no matter what they are called; 3. If you forgive the West for this, tomorrow they will kill in the same way in the Russian Federation. 4. It’s time to correct the historical mistake and return the “outskirts” to its native land.
  78. 0
    5 May 2014 00: 34
    I don’t fucking need this “Outskirts”, although I worry about them. I don't want to read reports of the dead.
  79. 0
    5 May 2014 09: 17
    It seems to me that in order to fight armored personnel carriers, we need to create several groups of tank destroyers and not chase after armored personnel carriers, but having settled on the ground, having escape routes, keep watch and burn dill, so that others will not be bothered.
  80. 0
    5 May 2014 10: 03
    And we need at least one BUK along the Lugansk corridor to every major settlement

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