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Communiqué of the National Militia Headquarters from 02 - 03.05.2014 of the year

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The attack on civilians and militias began on 2 in May on 4.30 in the morning with an attack on several roadblocks and a television center on the city of Karachun - the dominant height over the city. The enemy used more than 20 helicopters in the attack and up to 100 units of various armored vehicles. Two MI-24 helicopters of the enemy were shot down by the Militia forces and two MI-8 helicopters were significantly damaged. The pilot of one of the downed helicopters, who was seriously wounded, was captured and taken to the city hospital, where he received emergency medical care.


During the morning battle for the height of Karachun, the militia units put up fierce resistance to the enemy, advancing with the support of the 8 BTR, inflicted heavy casualties on him and retreated to the city. Enemy losses are estimated to 10 killed and wounded. In the militia unit, defending the tower, there are no losses. Moving further, the enemy occupied the railway station and the surrounding area, then stopped the advance, and in the evening brought the armored vehicles out of the city.

During the shootings on the northern outskirts of the city (in the direction of Feed Mills), the militia managed to incapacitate several militants of an unidentified enemy unit. In the area of ​​the BZS checkpoint on the Kharkiv-Rostov highway (northeastern direction), the enemy advancing from the city of Izyum using the overwhelming advantage in numbers and armaments, after a fierce battle, the checkpoint and the territory of the Slavic Resort were taken. The militiamen who defended the checkpoint retreated to the city center without loss.

In the afternoon in the area n. Andreevka (on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk near Karachun Mountain) civilians tried to block a convoy of armored vehicles with the Ukrainian military, mercenaries and militants of the Right Sector. As a result, brutally pushing the living cordon of people and passing on one civilian, the convoy continued to move. A repeated attempt to block it led to the fact that the soldiers and soldiers of the so-called. National Guard under opened on unarmed people to kill. According to preliminary data, about 10 civilians died, before 40 people were injured.

In the area of ​​the fire station No. 38, located in the Artem neighborhood, an attempt was made to penetrate into the city center of the National Guard on the 2 buses with the support of 1 BTR. Opponent subjected to fire from small weapons and suffered losses. There are no casualties on the part of the national militia.

A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .

During the battle for the Vostochny roadblock, on the outskirts of Slavyansk, 2 militiamen were killed, several were wounded. Thanks to the overwhelming advantage in technology and weapons, the checkpoint is occupied by the enemy. The forces of the Ukrainian army, mercenaries, militants of the Right Sector, armored vehicles and so-called are still being forced into the Slavyansk region. "National Guard". The local population of the suburbs employed by the enemy repeatedly received information that extremists and radicals from the Right Sector disguise themselves in civilian clothes and try to enter the city under the guise of civilians, including using St. George ribbons to mislead the militias.

During the clashes that took place at a roadblock on the eastern outskirts of the town of Krasny Liman, 1 was killed by a people's militia, 3 were injured. Opponent lost to 15 people killed and wounded. The unit that launched the attack is not installed. Presumably, fighters of the Right Sector attacked. At the present time armored vehicles are pulling up to help the militants, a new attack of the militia positions is being prepared.

At the end of the day, 2 in May, the militia retained strong control over the central part of the city of Slavyansk and conducted gunfights with the enemy on its outskirts. The advance of the enemy in the second half of the day was stopped in all directions and did not resume at night.

In the morning of May 3, the enemy continued to force forces towards the city of Slavyansk and concentrate on artillery batteries on the city of Karachun, and, with the support of armored vehicles, launched an attack on the positions of the people's militia in the city of Kramatorsk from the military airfield. Currently there is a fight. Also, the enemy after a massive shelling with armored vehicles attacked the roadblock of the militia in the village. Yasnogorka between Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. 2 militia wounded. Under pressure from superior enemy forces, the militiamen were forced to abandon their positions and retreat to the city.

“Information about the three knocked down turntables was not confirmed. As often happens, two different divisions “chalked up” the same helicopter. But 2 Mi-24 is also good, I think.

“Druzhkovka after a small skirmish left for our squad. Skirmishes continue in Kramatorsk, but there is no question of any control over the city by the ukropsky troops - our garrison is holding on and suffered only minor losses today (two wounded).
Slavyansk is now partially unblocked, since the drums were removed for the raid on Kramatorsk and were not replaced by anything. Our posts in several places again reached the city borders. A few more Pravosek saboteurs were caught. In the hands of the enemy, only the town of Karachun, where the mass of paratroopers, as well as the BZS roadblock on the Kharkiv-Rostov highway, remain, is occupied by the national guard and many soldiers and equipment with the emblems of the “right sector”. By the way, the loss of dill is much more than Turchinov admitted. But since most of the losses fall on PMCs and gangs of the “right-wing sector”, Turchinov can safely lie about the entire 5 killed by them. In yesterday’s battle at Krasny Liman, the participants clearly heard foreign speech — the wounded shouted in Polish and English. Our daily combat losses in all directions were 4 “200ths” and about 10 injured. The rest of the dead and wounded - shot civilians. The data are being clarified, but there are a lot of wounded - a few dozen just under Andreevka.

“The messenger arrived from Kramatorsk. The National Guard under fired shots in all directions, on one of the blocks — two 200's and three 300's heavy — all unarmed, and one girl — the nurse just drove through the block in her car. The tactic is simple - they drive up to the block at an effective shooting distance, they peel from the CPHT and immediately leave to avoid being hit by the return fire. We do not have our own armored vehicles in Kramatorsk, so they are impudent. By night, they will most certainly leave for the base so that our grenade throwers will not get to them. They will stand there under the protection of the paratroopers ... "

Last data: Konstantinovka was held today — there were local troops in our detachment there (I sent them a few days ago from Slavyansk to put a garrison in the city). The commander is also local there. “National Guardsmen” did not dare to attack the city executive committee - it was ours. He sent back a small reinforcement and ammunition - will fight on. Avakov, by the way, in his "twitter" acknowledged the loss (wounded) suffered by the troops at the TV tower. And there are no casualties among the militias.

In Kramatorsk - about the same thing, adjusted for the fact that the garrison is a bit stronger there. Because of the chaotic shelling of freaks rolling around the city on an armored troop-carrier, quite a lot of civilians were killed. In gunfights, 2 local militia wounded. The enemy (“national guard”) lost 3 man injured. The center of the city is firmly in the hands of our garrison, and the whole city is not able to hold either ours or dill with the available forces. Their units are concentrated in the area of ​​the airfield.

In Slavyansk, a division of the anti-sniper struggle in the region north of Sobolevka (the northern outskirts of the city) destroyed the enemy’s 2 sniper (presumably from the PS or PMC). There are no casualties in the garrison a day. Returned a few more previously left positions. It's still quiet for now, although we are frightened by another “assault” on 3 in the morning. If you finally get together - thank God! But it bothered to drive units to no avail for constantly maneuvering armored groups. We are waiting, sir!

The total loss of the 95 Brigade in two days - 5 killed and 13 injured, as I kindly reported. I think the main ones were incurred during the assault of Karachun. ”
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  1. maks-101
    maks-101 4 May 2014 06: 45
    +48
    guys hold on.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 4 May 2014 06: 48
      +34
      I watch TV as during the years of the war they listened to the reports of the Soviet information bureau.
      1. domokl
        domokl 4 May 2014 07: 09
        +61
        Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...
        Commander, dabble at the expense of flying units ... This is really a strong move ... Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...
        1. kare
          kare 4 May 2014 07: 36
          +22
          I’ll add that they don’t need to be chased. Part of the roads are blocked, there they wait in ambushes at intervals.
        2. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 4 May 2014 08: 19
          +16
          Quote: domokl
          Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...

          Even simple mining of roads in front of armed convoys will help this well.
          1. Hammer
            Hammer 4 May 2014 14: 23
            +8
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            Even simple mining of roads in front of armed convoys will help this well.


            Mines are double-edged weapons. There is a danger of undermining them and their local ...
            Here are remotely controlled landmines (via radio or wires) and nearby ambushes it will be effective. This is confirmed in Afghanistan, and in Lebanon, and in Iraq, and in Syria.
            1. 341712
              341712 4 May 2014 15: 13
              +2
              Quote: Hammer
              Mines are double-edged weapons. There is a danger of undermining them and their local ...

              I completely agree !!! Not even a land mine ... Only an RPG! It’s very important not to hook your ...
              P / c! I could never have imagined such a situation ...
          2. dkflbvbh
            dkflbvbh 4 May 2014 16: 07
            +1
            What kind of mining is expensive? There cars rush along the roads.
        3. Slavich
          Slavich 4 May 2014 08: 46
          +14

          It is high time. A couple of turntables landed, now something is not very fly.
        4. mirag2
          mirag2 4 May 2014 08: 46
          +2
          Tell me more, who is in the know? - Did the shooters die ??
          "Chamomile" is he?
          1. boozer
            boozer 4 May 2014 10: 41
            +5
            Yes. Bright memory to him!
          2. Egoza
            Egoza 4 May 2014 12: 22
            +2
            Quote: mirag2
            Tell me more, who is in the know? - Did the shooters die ??
            "Chamomile" is he?

            It seems not!
            A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .
            1. typhoon7
              typhoon7 4 May 2014 14: 49
              +1
              There was information that one of the militia commanders with the call sign "Romashka" died in a duel with an enemy sniper. Videos downloaded there was this information.
              1. Oleg1964
                Oleg1964 4 May 2014 15: 53
                +4
                Blessed memory to all those who gave their lives for their homeland!
          3. INVESTOR
            INVESTOR 4 May 2014 12: 37
            +1
            It’s a pity the man, a true patriot, a courageous man .. the question is how and where did he die? after all, he is the commander in his tasks included coordination of defense, staff work .. who now took commando instead of him ??
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 4 May 2014 12: 41
              +1
              Your last name, first name? Don’t be offended. They asked stupidity
          4. 62 RUS
            62 RUS 4 May 2014 16: 56
            0
            Strelkov callsign "Shooter"
        5. Corsair
          Corsair 4 May 2014 11: 54
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          .It is probably time to create flying detachments of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, they run away for the night ...
          Mining of roads with controlled landmines, the benefit of holes and potholes on the "roads"territory plenty ...
        6. mamont5
          mamont5 4 May 2014 17: 57
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          But the bathers need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create volatile squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it ... Yes, they run away for the night ...


          Indeed, it is surprising that there is no wrecked armored vehicles. After all, as I understand it, there is something to get it - ATGM, RPG.

          There was a new designation for the enemy - "dill". So be it now velikoukram "dill". Amen.
        7. Vikmay16
          Vikmay16 4 May 2014 20: 40
          0
          Competent advice! A couple of turntables are already blocked, now they will think about it!
    2. Validator
      Validator 4 May 2014 07: 00
      +15
      And so the civil war begins. It is necessary to convey to all the military the order of the DPR on the re-subordination of all armed units to them and after that to burn any equipment that left the bases without the order of the DPR. RPGs are needed in large quantities, I really hope that it is known where to get them
      1. jktu66
        jktu66 4 May 2014 11: 31
        +6
        The beast tasted blood, now it will not stop! Donetsk, declared independence, occupy checkpoints on the border with Russia. Our humanitarian aid is coming to you. Honest militiamen- help Russian volunteers get their Ukrainian passports so that d.v.o.l.o.t.a could not open their mouths about Russian invaders. Send technically competent guys to the courses of control of armored vehicles, PTO, MANPADS, sapper business!
        1. 341712
          341712 4 May 2014 15: 19
          +2
          Quote: jktu66
          Send technically competent guys to the courses of control of armored vehicles, PTO, MANPADS, sapper business!

          Unfortunately, the butt ... we need ready-made specialists ... (only from the Russian Federation with a passport of the territory of U)
        2. Buran
          Buran 4 May 2014 18: 23
          +4
          People need to understand that there are no good fascists. I just read it recently:
          About five years ago I read an article on an Israeli site, which impressed me very much and now I remember. There it was about how prisoners of concentration camps met with local schoolchildren and talked about the Holocaust. Well, how do we meet veterans.
          In general, they told, then the schoolchildren teacher raises and asks what conclusions they have drawn. They correctly answer so that, they say, it is necessary to respect people who have experienced such trials, to appreciate peace on earth and all that.
          The gray-haired old woman who survived either Auschwitz or Majdanek nodded her head politely, and then smiled bitterly and said that this was all right of course, but the main conclusion should be completely different.
          “Remember forever,” she said, “that if anyone promises to kill you somewhere, trust them.” Do not argue, as we then, before the Holocaust, that they have such a policy, and they themselves are nice and nice people, that they just say that. When they move from words to deeds, it will be too late. Believe those who promise to kill you. And, if you have the strength, pick up a weapon and kill them first to protect yourself and your families. If not, grab the children, all you can take and run from there. ”
          http://pavel-shipilin.livejournal.com/246319.html
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    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 07: 50
      +12
      As the acting head of the administration of the interim president of Ukraine Sergey Pashinsky stated earlier on Saturday, almost all important facilities in KramatorskIn particular, the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Department of Internal Affairs, and militias control only the City Council. Pashinsky also said that more than 20 people have already been detained during the operation losses of the Ukrainian military, according to official figures, are five people.

      And this is official data - they recognized the loss of 5 people in Kramatorsk.

      The assault of the military registration and enlistment office in Lugansk
    5. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 4 May 2014 08: 14
      +14
      Remember, Russia, fearless sons,
      Do not cry, Country, restrain, Russia, moans.
      The soul of the dead with a candlelight
      The millionth torch will be lit soon ...
    6. Ross
      Ross 4 May 2014 11: 24
      +15
      Well done guys, professionals. The commanders are able to protect the fighters. Definitely winners.
      1. Registrar
        Registrar 4 May 2014 15: 17
        -3
        Correctly fighting the people's militia! It’s not for us to teach them and give advice while sitting at the clave!

        But the armored personnel carrier is not necessary to burn, the boys are sitting in them (hostages of the situation), who at night let the whole bk into the air so as not to shoot at civilians. And the shooting is carried out: according to the right-wingers and mercenaries. And it is competent and fair.
        1. JACTUS RECTUS
          JACTUS RECTUS 4 May 2014 18: 25
          +5
          They are all not even shooting at people, they are indirectly guilty of what is happening, if there weren’t them, there wouldn’t be any killings. They betrayed the oath, betrayed the honor, betrayed morality, memory, people, all for their own skin.
        2. Camouflet
          Camouflet 5 May 2014 01: 23
          +2
          Quote: Registrator

          But the armored personnel carrier is not necessary to burn, the boys are sitting in them (hostages of the situation), who at night let the whole bk into the air so as not to shoot at civilians. And the shooting is carried out: according to the right-wingers and mercenaries. And it is competent and fair.

          The hostage of the situation must make a choice even before he goes to crush and shoot. Those who were killed did not wait for their choice.

          As for the "selective shooting", it is somehow difficult to imagine it. Especially in the evening and at night. Or maybe the militias have some special means for this?
    7. Siberian German
      Siberian German 4 May 2014 11: 59
      +4
      this is all clear - but our president is silent why and where did he say that if there is a threat to the local population and this is not a threat this is the total destruction of all our
    8. Validator
      Validator 4 May 2014 12: 44
      +7
      Our people. But batons are no longer relevant, only assault rifles and RPGs
  2. fvandaku
    fvandaku 4 May 2014 06: 47
    +9
    Hang on guys. Soon on May 9, everything will begin there.
  3. Lyubimov
    Lyubimov 4 May 2014 06: 50
    +13
    Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 4 May 2014 09: 29
      +26
      Quote: Lyubimov
      Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes
    2. Camouflet
      Camouflet 5 May 2014 01: 26
      0
      Quote: Lyubimov
      Hold on to the Brothers Slavs! Real heroes

      I agree. Slavyansk is a hero city.
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 May 2014 06: 51
    +9
    Well done peasants fight well ..! Hold on!
  5. Name
    Name 4 May 2014 06: 56
    +5
    DO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!
  6. major071
    major071 4 May 2014 06: 56
    +25
    Lyat, as a summary of the information bureau in the Great Patriotic War every day. The militias bow low for not surrendering and destroying these tv.rei. All the same, the junta will be destroyed along with its leaders sitting in Kiev. To each according to his deeds ...
    1. Saburov
      Saburov 4 May 2014 07: 07
      +11
      Quote: major071
      sitting in Kiev.

      Seated in Washington, to be exact.
      It will be necessary and we will enter the White House and Fort Knox gutted, so that these creatures would be more disgraceful to spoil the planet!
      1. 341712
        341712 4 May 2014 15: 22
        +2
        Quote: Saburov
        It will be necessary and we will enter the White House and Fort Knox gutted, so that these creatures would be more disgraceful to spoil the planet!

        I think it should do ... INDIANS !!!
    2. vvvvv
      vvvvv 4 May 2014 14: 11
      +2
      It has long been said about Fort Knox that there is probably nothing to gut there ... Even experts admit that the US is drawing economic indicators for itself in order to avoid shocks. All indicators are really terrible - the worst in decades. If not for the QE program, then the crisis of 2008 has long been in new phases.
  7. andr327
    andr327 4 May 2014 06: 58
    +17
    A clear report of self-defense results is a good sign of organization. It is highly desirable that he be a comprehension corresponded to reality. and pravoseki all continue to act as a trick, a blow from around the corner, an attack on a weak, unproductive resistance.
  8. Hikar
    Hikar 4 May 2014 07: 01
    +13
    We need to help with weapons at least
  9. taseka
    taseka 4 May 2014 07: 06
    +10
    The men behind whose wives and children cannot be broken! Hold on to the militias! If we give Syria weapons, will we really not give our relatives?
    1. ARS56
      ARS56 4 May 2014 09: 14
      +11
      In Slavyansk, real men.
      I am ashamed of Kharkovites.
      For Bander’s creatures, they will wash their blood for Odessa.
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  10. ruslan207
    ruslan207 4 May 2014 07: 11
    -18%
    And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.
    1. Jrvin
      Jrvin 4 May 2014 07: 26
      +7
      The shit throw on the fan is counted.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 08: 12
      +12
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.

      Your leaders periodically call the leaders of Palestine, as well as the leaders of the terrorist groups Fatah and Hamas and? ..
    3. Horde
      Horde 4 May 2014 08: 50
      +5
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.


      Jew, well, tell me something about Lukashenko?
    4. yushch
      yushch 4 May 2014 10: 31
      +4
      Lukashenko is the president of an independent state, even if he is our ally, which prevents him from communicating with Turchinov. Moreover, we do not recognize the junta, and there should be minimal communication, but here Butska can help.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 4 May 2014 10: 45
        +2
        Independent? Probably you think that there is a strong economy. It is 100% tied to Russia. Do not tell the people. Now there is no such completely independent state-va!
    5. vvvvv
      vvvvv 4 May 2014 14: 24
      +5
      I am also strained by the rhetoric of Lukashenka, who says completely out of place that he himself would go to fight against Russia if a similar situation was with Belarus. What is important here is the untimeliness of his examples, which in their essence designate the situation as a Russian invasion and the need for every Ukrainian to fight against it. This interview was on the news some time ago. NAKh are such allies who, in difficult times, "farts" so inappropriately, instead of a bold support position. I have no doubt that Lukashenka and Belarus would have risen as in 41-45 for Russia against the intervention of the West, etc. But even in the current sluggish war, Russia would not be hurt by more unequivocal support. Russia is being beaten, and the allies are conducting friendly diplomacy with the beating ones ... This is very shameful. When will they kill? Who knows how it will be ?! Maybe they will try to stay aside ?! This is Russia harnessed to its own at the slightest offense. And at the geopolitical level, there is a lot at stake, so everyone should understand this to be super important and neutral positions are inappropriate.
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 4 May 2014 14: 40
        +2
        Lukash has a grudge against Russia, since we do not sell him oil for resale to the west, at domestic prices! And on the market world! For domestic consumption, please, but for resale, please excise pay! Nobody promised him freebies! So he slows down, and throws the presentation! And on the nose defaulted! In short, Old Man wants to sit down with one booty on 2 chairs!
    6. 341712
      341712 4 May 2014 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: ruslan207
      And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.

      Pull it away from Old Man, it doesn't interfere under your feet, doesn't reread it, and okay for now .... By the way, he is far from stupid and very far-sighted "pretzel". If it is silent, then everything is under control.
  11. mig31
    mig31 4 May 2014 07: 13
    +9
    It’s time for us to get involved, we lured enough banderlogs and mercenaries, a decisive blow is necessary, and so that we won’t take prisoners to the spot ...
  12. il2.chewie
    il2.chewie 4 May 2014 07: 13
    +1
    Quote: ruslan207
    And Lukashenko supports the fascist regime. Turchinov is calling what kind of an ally he needs oil and free gas. That's all his friendship.



    Where does this infa come from?
    1. Jrvin
      Jrvin 4 May 2014 07: 30
      +2
      Yes, this is trolling, which is incomprehensible ...
  13. tarko-trade
    tarko-trade 4 May 2014 07: 15
    +9
    We, too, watch "Russia 24 hours" with the whole family, feel the same rage that our ancestors felt when listening to reports from the Great Patriotic War. I do not believe that our leadership will not help the brothers Slavs in the fight against neo-fascists.
  14. talnax7
    talnax7 4 May 2014 07: 18
    +3
    I see actions not repentance (demotivators, retweaters, nyashki, hrenyashki, and, t, n) Action What to do to us (it’s good for me to wait for the race sitting at the computer in warmth and satiety, to be a couch warrior this is really not proud, I state) But there are others fortunately for us. They know better than me what to do and how the Future South-East with us in the form of what is there (shorter and faster as part of the Russian Federation and cheaper)
  15. Arkan
    Arkan 4 May 2014 07: 20
    +6
    Strictly, according to the military, without emotion. Snoots "seki" who do not die in the South-East will go to their rat holes. The Galicians have hatched out of themselves and put on their own necks these misbegotten, worse punishment can not be imagined.
  16. siberalt
    siberalt 4 May 2014 07: 28
    +11
    Putin has already given the go-ahead to arms the rebels, saying that the Kiev authorities have deprived Russia of the opportunity to obstruct their weapons. Everything goes in a bunch. Across the southeast, you need to remove mayors, peers and governors and put their own. Security officials swear an oath or drive you up. No other way.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 13: 03
      +2
      Quote: siberalt
      Putin has already given the go-ahead to the arms of the rebels

      Alas, wishful thinking is valid.
  17. svp67
    svp67 4 May 2014 07: 36
    +20
    The anti-terrorist operation of the junta is "slipping", this is what the Americans are transmitting from the place of the anti-terrorist operation:
    CNN: Kiev's words about “success” in Kramatorsk are far from reality
    Kiev authorities claim that the special operation in Kramatorsk was successful and the city was freed from pro-Russian militias. But a CNN correspondent reports that reality looks very different: Ukrainian security officials left the city without taking control of it and leaving angry residents in their place.
    I am on the outskirts of Kramatorsk. Behind me you see one of the many makeshift barricades. It was installed by the locals and seems to be set on fire, and then removed from the road by the Ukrainian troops moving along this road towards Kramatorsk. We have just been there. Honestly, some terrible calm reigns in the city.

    Burned buses are everywhere in the center. Pro-Russian rebels are still visible in the local administration building. Despite statements by the country's interior minister that the army entered the city and cleaned it of the “terrorists,” as they call pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, there are no signs of the presence of the Ukrainian army. Only the damage left after the collisions that occurred in the last day is visible.

    There are no military personnel in the special services building, which, according to the statement of the Minister of Internal Affairs, was released. And they are not in the TV tower. Yesterday, we saw Ukrainian armored personnel carriers there. But then they left this place due to clashes in a neighboring city.

    The situation is confusing: Kiev is pretending that everything is under control here. But this does not correspond to what we see at the scene. It is also alarming that we learned by talking with doctors from a hospital in Kramatorsk. Only in it one reports of three dead and 15 wounded.

    Kramatorsk is angry. Despite the military operation, it seems that the soldiers just entered the city, took part in the battles and moved on. Discontent still reigns in the city. And to some extent, so to speak, it is rather under the control of pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, but certainly not under the control of the Kiev authorities.
    Nick Peyton Walsh, CNN, Kramatorsk.

    Material provided by CNN International.
    Translation is RT.

    Air Date: May 03 2014.

    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 08: 34
      +7
      Even CNN has honest journalists!

      And here is the official Kiev that writes about the situation in Kramatorsk.
      As the acting head of the administration of the interim president of Ukraine Sergey Pashinsky stated earlier on Saturday, almost all important facilities in Kramatorsk, in particular, the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the internal affairs department, and militias control only the city council came under the control of the Ukrainian armed forces. Pashinsky also said that more than 20 people have already been detained during the operation losses of the Ukrainian military, according to official figures, are five people.
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 4 May 2014 08: 57
      +3
      I did not expect from CNN
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 4 May 2014 09: 18
        +9
        Quote: samoletil18
        I did not expect from CNN

        CNN is amerovskaya rot, their "correspondents" must be shot, because they are soldiers, or rather INFO mercenaries ... they are against us ....

        Crimean people go to the aid of the South-East !!!!
        1. Hamul
          Hamul 4 May 2014 12: 31
          +5
          And where are they ?????
        2. Com T-64a
          Com T-64a 4 May 2014 18: 37
          +1
          Samvel again. A guy seems to be active, from the beginning of the operation in the Crimea, he rustled there!
          Keep the word Samvel! The people will not forgive verbiage!
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    4. Buran
      Buran 4 May 2014 18: 33
      0
      Well this Kolyan is just in terrible rage. How so, he was deceived, where are the flowers, where is the bread and salt? Where the hell are the captured separatists and the townspeople writing with joy? Not the right damn war. One fool can not understand, they will burn and shoot them at night in the city, this is not Banderstad for you.
  18. vorchyn_ymka
    vorchyn_ymka 4 May 2014 07: 36
    +19
    the aiming range of RPGs is up to 700 m .. a good grenade launcher may well not knock out so at least scare the crew .. kpvt up to 2000m ... I doubt that from such a distance the gunner of the armored personnel carrier is aiming fire .. of course, these block posts can be called so with great interference, rather a garbage dump .. but knowing approximately the distance from which the armored personnel carrier fires it is quite possible either to knock it out from an RPG, or to catch it on a mine, laying a roadside land mine .. and more .. knowing where the dill are based and having a "nona" based on the BMD it is quite possible to cover base points .. or are there no specialists? night raid ... on the base ... still they will not go into pursuit at night ..
    1. yushch
      yushch 4 May 2014 10: 36
      +8
      The confrontation has not yet reached the level of land mines and night raids.
  19. Tatarus
    Tatarus 4 May 2014 07: 50
    +44
    A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .

    I am ashamed. Very much to tears. I live in a monastery. And stupidly perform the Internet warrior. And he took and went to defend the homeland and faith. My peer. Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I am not worthy of my internet stars. I write his name on my commemoration and will serve for repose as a warrior. God forgive me, but how I hate these creatures.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 4 May 2014 08: 28
      +19
      Tatarus, if you are really in a monastery, then it’s better to help spiritually. Read the 108 psalm with me.
      The Lord sees everything and will reward nonhumans during this lifetime
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 4 May 2014 20: 18
        0
        Thank you MAGADAN
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 08: 30
      -13%
      Quote: Tatarus
      Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I'm not worthy of my internet stars

      Have you been drinking in the morning?
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 4 May 2014 08: 37
        +7
        That is, you simply do not perceive manifestations of conscience Uncle Sasha?

        And why in the morning. From the evening drinks

        But it's a real shame. I will remember all the "warlike" conversations with friends. Babalabolism is one.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: Tatarus
          That is, you simply do not perceive manifestations of conscience Uncle Sasha?

          And what does it have to advise and rating and sayite. I canceled the rating, but how will this help Ukraine?
          Quote: Tatarus
          And why in the morning. From the evening

          I thought so laughing
          Quote: Tatarus

          But it's a real shame. I will remember all the "warlike" conversations with friends.

          Let there be help, do not worry.
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 4 May 2014 08: 38
        +14
        I had a dream. I saw blood.
        Her whole Ukraine is flooded.
        Where, Lord, is your love?
        She was killed by the Nazis.

        I am sinful that it is a little faith.
        But how do I believe seeing this?
        Well, really in the list of measures
        There is no item "scum to call to account"?

        Why are the heavens silent?
        Wait until I decide the questions.
        Where is the faith of true beauty?
        In the West, only suction.

        Today I decided for myself.
        No more Ukrainian brothers.
        And the Russians have more strength there.
        And let us all come together.

        Tatarus 04.05.2014
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 08: 36
      +11
      Quote: Tatarus
      I am ashamed. Very much to tears. I live in a monastery. And stupidly perform the Internet warrior. And he took and went to defend the homeland and faith. My peer. Please reset my rating and shoulder straps. I am not worthy of my internet stars. I write his name on my commemoration and will serve for repose as a warrior. God forgive me, but how I hate these creatures.


      It’s not worth punishing yourself like that.
      I think if for some reason you cannot fulfill your military duty, then you can help with the dissemination of information or help with medicines.
  20. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 4 May 2014 08: 13
    +11
    But all those who are now defending Slavyansk, all their lives, have paid taxes on the maintenance of ub.yudko.vo, who are now trying to kill them! And some also handed over 5 hryvnias ...
  21. Magadan
    Magadan 4 May 2014 08: 27
    +9
    Guys, we will definitely take revenge on the Nazi reptile! All will answer - both the junta and the law-abiding and young Bandera! The truth is ours!
    About our troops, there is no "indecision" of Putin. We have good leaders and the moment when the introduction of troops will be beneficial to us, and not to the Americans, they will choose. The blow will be sure. Not where everyone is waiting for him. BUT let's not forget about Assad. Then the Americans will immediately beat him on it. Well, or they will hire someone to get fucked.
    They will arrange any provocation similar to the burning of the inhabitants of Odessa, blame Assad's supporters and fucking up.
    In general, I think the best tactic is that our volunteers passed hot spots. The Chechens and Dagestans won’t even comb their hands, they want to cut Bosko Nazi scum.
    So we have to raise money for volunteers! There are channels where to send help:

    http://www.voicesevas.ru - это сайт Полковника Кассада (надеюсь многие слышали уже)
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/monte99 - трансляция оперативного канала
    https://sites.google.com/site/slavadonbassu/ - реквизиты и ссылки

    I think there is already coordinating. In any case, even if now suddenly volunteers are not needed, but are collected, such a fee will be of great benefit in any case.
    So we don’t sit and whine about "Putinvseprosralmyvseumrem". We distribute information to friends. And on the sly on those who have combat experience and are ready to rip the throats of these non-humans
    1. ASSARU
      ASSARU 4 May 2014 08: 44
      +4
      They need a lot of flies.
      1. asar
        asar 4 May 2014 20: 30
        0
        Yes, they need everything and plenty! Literate guys in the militias, here are not enough weapons! Hang on, guys! good
  22. erased
    erased 4 May 2014 08: 28
    +5
    An army in Ukraine is still undesirable. But help with weapons, equipment, equipment, etc. can be provided. Well, volunteers can be transported.
    I don’t even know what to call freaks who kill people under the banners of the Ukrainian army. Fascism has nothing to do with it - this is a purely Italian invention. National Socialism is a German idea. This is a diverse trash, bandits, killers, mercenaries. Just like in the movies - Army of Evil. Only here is not a movie, there is already a peaceful people suppressed, women are being killed. Whatever you call them, the war with them will go on for a long time. And not only in Ukraine.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 14: 01
      +3
      Quote: erased
      Army to enter Ukraine is still undesirable.

      Entering troops will have to "clear up" big problems. But not bringing in troops may cost Russia even more: the South-East of Ukraine will rightly regard this as a betrayal and will hate Putin and Russia; the idea of ​​creating Novorossiya and the dream of the future unification of Novorossiya and Russia will have to part forever; the whole world will assert itself: Russia is scared, Russia is defeated, and henceforth it is necessary to deal with Russia from a position of strength: if it lost to force now, it will continue to yield. The authority acquired by Russia will "burst" like an inflated balloon, Russia will no longer be respected.
    2. His
      His 4 May 2014 15: 55
      0
      We will well supply the southeast with weapons, they will knock out the right sector and the Ukrainian army. And then what? Where is the money Zin, like Vysotsky. Who will manage the territory? We need the entry of our military forces, the arrival of Yanukovych, the introduction of the ruble zone, integration, if not Russia, into the Eurasian Union or our customs. Without finance, everything will fall in Somalia. A national liberation army is already being created with new goals for other oligarchs. So it will be like the civil war of the last century, until the Reds arrived.
  23. Andryukha Siberian
    Andryukha Siberian 4 May 2014 08: 30
    +2
    Yes, how many more people must die in order for the people to rise to the fight against the Nazis. People remember, because Hitler also started, the same units of attack aircraft also beat and kill all those who disagree. The story repeats itself.
  24. demotivator
    demotivator 4 May 2014 08: 34
    +4
    According to the news received, the militias of Slavyansk killed a sniper in hand-to-hand combat, presumably a mercenary who had arrived from abroad. According to a Segodnya.ru source, the foreign mercenary did not have any documents; now the identity is being established.
    In favor of the proposed version, there may be evidence of radio interception in which foreign speech was sounded, as well as weapons and ammunition of foreign manufacture not used in the Ukrainian army.
    1. Sinara70
      Sinara70 4 May 2014 08: 59
      +2
      It would be nice to show his corpse in front of television cameras ......
      To see - who is at war with the people of the Southeast ...
    2. Sinara70
      Sinara70 4 May 2014 08: 59
      +2
      It would be nice to show his corpse in front of television cameras ......
      To see - who is at war with the people of the Southeast ...
  25. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 4 May 2014 08: 51
    +1
    Need more borders and optics, output as written above
    domokl
    Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...

    take them out like secrets on long patrols and beat armored vehicles on return. Those who allegedly threw out the cartridges, but did not shoot at their own, think that they will be so honored if the government changes and again - in the service of their native state. Don't they understand that there won't be that very "State of Ukraine"? A riot in the army, a massive transfer of military units to the side of the SE are very much waiting for.
  26. pensioner
    pensioner 4 May 2014 09: 05
    +2
    Have they taken Slavyansk, or what? What about Strelkov? Who is in the know?
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 4 May 2014 09: 08
      +7
      Pensioner hi
      Quote: retired
      Have they taken Slavyansk, or what? What about Strelkov? Who is in the know
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 4 May 2014 09: 23
        +1
        Good afternoon, Alyosha. In Russia, 24 it was reported that the military almost completely controlled Slavyansk. Is it so?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 4 May 2014 10: 04
          +3
          They stand on the approaches to the city while everything is quiet!
          The night in Slavyansk was calm. Good morning to all good people!
          it was written by 10 minutes ago Dmitry Steshin! He definitely informs!
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 4 May 2014 09: 23
        0
        Good afternoon, Alyosha. In Russia, 24 it was reported that the military almost completely controlled Slavyansk. Is it so?
  27. Sturmann
    Sturmann 4 May 2014 09: 10
    +2
    Children need to send more RPGs and MANPADS.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 4 May 2014 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: Sturmann
      Children need to send more RPGs and MANPADS.

      + communications, anti-personnel and night sights, directional anti-personnel mines, hand grenades (anti-personnel and anti-tank), company mortars, large-caliber sniper rifles for counter-sniper combat and much more ...
      And to all this "goodness" of qualified volunteer instructors to train local "personnel" ...
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        + communications, anti-personnel and night sights, directional anti-personnel mines, hand grenades (anti-personnel and anti-tank), company mortars, large-caliber sniper rifles for counter-sniper combat and much more ...
        And to all this "goodness" of qualified volunteer instructors to train local "personnel" ...

        ..... tanks T-72B3, BMP-3, MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28, aircraft Su-35, also Kantemirovskaya and Taman divisions .... (oh Lord! -The Black Sea Fleet forgot!)
  28. storm wind
    storm wind 4 May 2014 09: 18
    +7
    On the video .. How many men and only stand and shoot on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there? BUT? Why don't you take up arms and join in! Well, at least some help if you don’t have a weapon. Distract, create a smoke screen .. at least something. Scare ..no stand and take off! And only a small group storms .. There are no words!
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 4 May 2014 19: 40
      0
      Quote: Storm Wind
      In the video ..How many men just stand and take pictures on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there?

      These paparazzi assholes need to be taken under control. Set their identities and check the footage.
  29. Astana_KZ
    Astana_KZ 4 May 2014 09: 22
    +5
    People, what's going on? There, people are already massively burned, killed .... I can’t watch the news, it's not people, how can this be? Ukraine ... uh ... tears come after the news. Mourn
  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought 4 May 2014 09: 44
    +2
    Hold on, brothers! We are all heart and soul, being in all corners of vast Russia, we worry about you, rejoice at your victories, upset at your failures, and wait for Russian state support for self-defense detachments.
  31. Santor
    Santor 4 May 2014 10: 19
    +15
    Quote: Storm Wind
    On the video .. How many men and only stand and shoot on phones. Just pi ... dec! No organization .. They came staring, took off and went home .. Why go there? BUT? Why don't you take up arms and join in! Well, at least some help if you don’t have a weapon. Distract, create a smoke screen .. at least something. Scare ..no stand and take off! And only a small group storms .. There are no words!

    In Odessa, the 150 people came to the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to demand the release of detainees ..from ONE MILLION ODESSA RESIDENTS!!!!!!! What else to talk about? I carefully watched all the videos - ours, Ukrainian, YouTube, Air Force, SNN ...... An organized crowd walked and put everything that moves with cancer, and Odessa residents ran nearby and cheerfully shot everything on their mobile phones, even jumped to shoot better .. ...

    10 000 000 {TEN MILLIONS) inhabitants in the South = East, and what do we see? 2 500 militias throughout the Donbass and Lugansk region, and even according to indirect data from them about 300 Cossacks made their way to them. No weapons ???
    And why I apologize h .. and only in Lugansk itself "uncovered" were and what have 6 military units still to do with it ??? And how many are there in the regions ?? As a military man, I will responsibly say for those who do not know - in the weapon rooms with any number of l / s there is only one third of all the weapons available in part - the rest is in warehouses as a mobilization reserve. This is an axiom, as in any country where there is an assigned reserve contingent. Or maybe there is simply no desire to arm?

    In Lugansk, on the streets, from the strength of 1 000 militias run there and even less - where the rest are at least 100 000 healthy adult Russian-speaking men ???

    In Donesk ONE MILLION residents - where at least 20 00 on the streets ?? In Kharkov, with its two millionth population, the maximum 10 00 was at the peak of the tests ... By the way, the rioters came to Odessa from Kharkov - are their names already known or is Kharkov applauding its heroes ???

    Я
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 4 May 2014 14: 51
      +1
      I fully support you completely. Half of them are all in favor of Kiev’s power. And the second half itself vaguely understands what they want. We set up some fake barricades, they seize unnecessary buildings for some reason ... Everyone sits alone. . Someone is fighting, and someone just running takes off everything on his mobile phone. The spectacle is shorter. And this despite the fact that they loudly announced mobilization. Before this is stated, we must remember that mobilization is war. under the gun, deserter. And that’s all. With the corresponding consequences. But you need to arm these mobilized people. And you had to think about it in advance. And disarm those units of the military and other special forces that refuse to obey. And arm those conscripts. Well, here too it’s not all. This crowd is armed. It’s necessary to have a clear organization. There’s a need for commanders. Then, if all this is possible, then you can fight. And do not talk all kinds of nonsense, like Putin should help. He doesn’t owe you anything.
    2. His
      His 4 May 2014 19: 39
      0
      Keep quiet! The people there are passive. Russian people are farmers and disciplined people, moreover, the most unorganized nation in the world. But warriors are good if they fight for the truth. Remember Chechnya, Central Asia simply fled. What is wrong with the fact that the people worked for their country, did not want any war. In addition, they were taught to be second-class citizens. I need the help of mother Russia, without this in any way.
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    4. okunevich_rv
      okunevich_rv 6 May 2014 10: 52
      +1
      I support your fair indignation, in any other country after what happened in Odessa, pravosek would be slaughtered like cattle, and in Ukraine only a handful of real men is resisting. Correctly, Vladimir Vladimirovich does not take measures, otherwise these with phones and then our boys will be scammed in foreign mass media, and maybe shot in the back.
  32. Santor
    Santor 4 May 2014 10: 20
    +35
    I could not sleep yesterday, anger choked ... Behind 30 years of service, children grew up ... If my child would be killed there, in the House of Trade Unions ... I would not smear snot ...
    After all, these pogromists haven’t left anywhere, they hang out in the center of Odessa shouting slogans .. Reinforcements arrived, and according to my information the regiment of the national guard of military unit 3039 is moving from Nikolaev as a whole .... And most importantly, among them the sea of ​​inhabitants of Odessa, residents of Odessa already identified merrily and dexterously poured bottles - these knots are still alive ????

    And you moan here and write curses against Putin ??? The hand rises ???
    WHY ENTER THE TROOPS ??? Who to protect - 10-20 00 of 10 millions ???

    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    Is it to them to introduce our boys? for slaughter ??? To ridicule ??? Where are 500 000 miners of Donbass ??? With Kyle then they will throw on our armored personnel carriers ???

    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... It was the first time since 1979 of the year I saw how young boys die ... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus ...
    1. Luger
      Luger 4 May 2014 10: 44
      +10
      Yes, the miners from Donbass were only indignant that they were given a small salary, and then they calmed down, they saw the salary raised, the whole question was removed. Therefore, I support that it is not worthwhile to introduce troops so far, such as (I don’t know how), help with weapons and people (I think we will definitely find those who wish). And so we can also remain extreme and indeed the people of Ukraine will definitely perceive us as occupiers, a good example of Odessa (by the way, until yesterday I thought that Odessa was more about a Russian city), their people are being burned alive by visiting Natsiks, and they are screwing up their ass. shoved, and the cops also helped, which burned better. No matter how cynical it may sound, but we still have to wait until the rest of the people of the grief will grab and eat up with European integration.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 4 May 2014 10: 58
        +4
        Quote: Luger
        Therefore, I support that it’s not worthwhile to deploy troops so far, somehow (I don’t know how) to help with weapons and people

        Maybe not worth it yet. Here are the news from Mariupol. There, people organize themselves. They have practically no weapons .....


        The organizer of one of the battle groups from Azovmash is in touch with us, here is his message:
        From minute to minute, the assault of the city executive committee in Mariupol has already begun. There is a shooting. The center is cordoned off, webcams are disabled. According to activists, only armed people and representatives of the DPR remained in the city executive committee. According to information from friends from New Yalta (25 km. From the city), 8 tanks proceeded towards Mariupol. From Urzuf (40 km.) It was reported that BMD reached Mariupol.
        Local activists intercepted one BMD of the Ukrainian army in the Rybatskoye village area, 5 personnel are in local hands.
        Two helicopters over the course of an hour from 20.30 to 21.30 in Kiev flew over the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov in the New Yalta region.

        PS. They just reported that the first attack on the city executive committee was repelled.

        Currently, in Mariupol, among the local population, the creation of combat groups from among reserve troops is ongoing. There are practically no weapons, but people are ready to go hand to hand.

        Shooting near the city executive committee was opened by people in the form of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. They fired solitary, but from military weapons. Now about 500 peaceful people gathered outside the city executive committee
    2. Combat279
      Combat279 4 May 2014 10: 57
      0
      I completely agree with you, I also monitor the situation. When there is no agreement among the comrades, this will not work .... But there have been no comrades in Ukraine for a very long time. Draw Russia into armed conflict? Why, who needs it?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 4 May 2014 11: 02
        0
        Is this still not clear to you?
    3. edeligor
      edeligor 4 May 2014 11: 03
      +4
      I agree with you 100%! With such local "support" ours have nothing to do there. And all Tymoshenko, Poroshenko and so on with ice axes and summed up live - for the Odessa massacre.
    4. Bob
      Bob 4 May 2014 11: 25
      +2
      Quote: Santor
      The elimination of creatures, in a quiet .. Why Mossad can and we do not ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....

      Negotiations with clowns like a tie Saakashvili ?! It will not be this. And the followers of Sahak ... will face the same fate - the court, the tribunal, the expulsion, the curses of the descendants.
      The elimination of creatures is the only language they understand.
      Blood was spilled, and these creatures will answer for it, they will definitely answer. The civilian population of the East took up arms and is ready to defend their land. This is a war, but this war was not unleashed by the Ukrainians themselves, its organizers are in the "prosperous" West, which will pay and will pay dearly for its bloody policy.
      Wake up Europeans, you are led by vampires who are thirsty for blood and ready to sacrifice you ... It’s not too late yet, and you can avoid a lot of blood and stop your politicians who declare war, pass black and white and vice versa. They are mired in lies and act in the interests of a very small group of financial tycoons requiring global domination and not taking into account the interests of the majority. Wake up, stop these bloodsuckers.
    5. Iva58
      Iva58 4 May 2014 12: 11
      +2
      Santor, I completely agree with you. I will only add that Ukraine should be liberated by soldiers with Ukrainian (for now) passports, thus excluding partisan resistance from the "zombie" and accusations of aggression. Any state is a bureaucratic pyramid, therefore it is necessary to eliminate the top, and it is better to replace it by force, then it will be possible to restore control over the WHOLE territory
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    7. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2014 12: 29
      +5
      Quote: Santor
      THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!!

      Yes, most of them were not going to become Russia! In fact of the matter. Most of them wanted a "separate hut on the edge" - federalization! So that everything earned in the region remains and is distributed! So that "independence" from Kiev was! Therefore, there is no such zeal as in the Crimea.
      Secondly - How many years ago Crimea was annexed and how many years ago Novorossia was annexed to the Kiva province, etc. People no longer perceive themselves as part of Russia! On the contrary, they fear that Russian oligarchs will sit on their necks along with Ukrainian ones. Moreover, the media is constantly pumping how bad people live in Crimea now, and special films show "how bad people live in the outback of Russia."
    8. Victor1
      Victor1 4 May 2014 12: 49
      +6
      you don’t need to watch ukrosi, there are many productions, provocations, propaganda and other lies.

      but that’s why these screamers are without weapons, without Molotov cocktails, which prevented them from enrolling in the city’s self-defense, because this is their city.

      One thing is obvious, unfortunately in 20-25 years, and especially in the last 10 years, a large part of the population of Ukraine and the South-East has turned into an inactive, passive biomass ..
      Western propaganda is brainwashing, and the population believes in it. They brought up a whole generation of Russophobia, where did their parents look?
      "My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything," but when trouble comes to the house, everyone is to blame at once, but not them.
      With this number of people, only a small part resists.
      It would be enough to leave 5-10 thousand people and there would not be a tragedy in Odessa, cowards are cowardly, they can arrange only punitive operations with overwhelming superiority in numbers and strength ..

      Regarding the deployment of troops, this is not a straightforward matter, because the population is passive.
      Therefore, as an option, if it comes to that, hold a quick referendum to understand the mood of the population.
      I think the majority is still for Russia, but they are passive and can show their will only when they do everything for them.
      Therefore, the best option for today is a proven method in the Crimea, you need to do the same thing, militias undercover.

      One more thing is not clear why Lugansk and Donbas have been sitting on their ass for a month, it has long been necessary to reassign all the forces on their territory, take army depots and arm the population, and most importantly free the border with Russia, so that at least supply can be provided.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 4 May 2014 13: 44
        +4
        Quote: Victor1
        but that’s why these screamers are without weapons, without Molotov cocktails, which prevented them from enrolling in the city’s self-defense, because this is their city.

        In one of the cities on the highway "Donetsk - Lugansk" at the executive committee there is an office in which they record in self-defense.
        It happens as follows:
        -you present your passport and B \ B, you are entered into the registry, leave your phone number and ... that's it !!!

        They say wait, "in case we call you."
        Not weapons, not the slightest tactical training, no working off interaction.

        It seems that this "self-defense" was created by officials for a "tick" so that people would not forget about them ...

        And regarding this situation with an armored personnel carrier on the streets of Kramatorsk, I would like to note that it is extremely unreasonable to use a "cocktail" in this situation because of the impossibility of ensuring the withdrawal and cover of the "thrower".

        Let the guys crush the Nazis morally, let them save themselves for more important actions.
        It is important that they have the ROD, motivation ...
        1. okunevich_rv
          okunevich_rv 6 May 2014 11: 10
          0
          I would create such a point to identify all those who disagree and for subsequent extermination.
          And there are private security organizations in the Southeast, and what they do, and where they hide with their weapons.
          There is a completely legal way to protect the population from dill, or not.
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      2. Kostya
        Kostya 4 May 2014 19: 15
        +1
        One thing pleases, they do not welcome them with flowers, which means that tomorrow they will take a "filthy broom" and see uninvited guests!
    9. alexander20
      alexander20 4 May 2014 14: 28
      +3
      I completely agree. until they organize themselves and rise up there is nothing for us to do there. and it will turn out, as always, they will sell Russia and substitute. my great-grandfather told me how many of the Ukrainians "fought" against the Nazis in the cellars in the farmsteads. and our Siberians died in batches for these bastards. and then until the age of 54 they beat them in the woods and imprisoned them. so it was necessary to beat them to the end, you cannot plant them only to beat them. this is how the entire southeast is organized, then we will help.
    10. alexander20
      alexander20 4 May 2014 14: 28
      +1
      I completely agree. until they organize themselves and rise up there is nothing for us to do there. and it will turn out, as always, they will sell Russia and substitute. my great-grandfather told me how many of the Ukrainians "fought" against the Nazis in the cellars in the farmsteads. and our Siberians died in batches for these bastards. and then until the age of 54 they beat them in the woods and imprisoned them. so it was necessary to beat them to the end, you cannot plant them only to beat them. this is how the entire southeast is organized, then we will help.
    11. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 14: 30
      +3
      Quote: Santor
      THEY DON'T RIPE AS THE CRIMEA FOR WHAT WOULD BECOME RUSSIA !!!

      I agree with you, because. I hold the same opinion. Alas, there is a long-standing Russian tradition: "here comes the master, the master will judge us." But if Russia confines itself to verbal appeals, threats, promises to draw conclusions and nothing more, then the entire Western (pro-Western) world will draw its own conclusions: Russia has been defeated, Russia has yielded to force. Now it is necessary to "talk" with Russia from a position of strength: if it gave way, it will give way and henceforth many times.
    12. skifd
      skifd 4 May 2014 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: Santor
      I could not sleep yesterday, anger stifled ...


      The exact same feelings ... I watched a bunch of streams at the same time, almost from the very beginning, from the moment the police squeezed anti-Maidan from the building with the right sector .. Immediately shouted - "What are the cops doing ?? !! THEY ARE THERE WITH THE AUTOMATONS !!! (about the "right sector", they took refuge in the building) ". The result - the cops did not go into the building either themselves or with the anti-Maidan. Then everything went on increasing, "parallel" processions, provocations, (some h (m) blow shot at the anti-Maidan activists, was captured, not really beaten, and surrendered to the police !!! DO NOT READ !!!). The meeting of the columns, right there on the anti-Maidan (on the move) a bunch of boulders, light-noise and gas grenades, claps of shots (so far, apparently "traumatized"). Then everything is uphill, growing. There is no power to describe everything, there are fragmentary records on the network. But !!! Watching just the videos DOES NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED IN ODESSA! I HAPPENED to see it all in full. What is happening in my soul now, just can not convey. That this was a PROVOCATION was immediately apparent. There were more than two times less activists against the "ultras" and the "right sector" (according to my visual estimates - about five hundred, against the 1st, 1,5 thousand), then there was practically one "anti-Maidan self-defense" ( in the region of one hundred, maximum at the peak of two hundred), the rest scattered ... Then at the crossroads (at which there were no particular collisions) a corpse of a boy of an UNCONNECTED ACCESSORY TO ANY OF ANY PARTIES appeared from somewhere (no symbolism) !!!! I thought, everything, krindets ... Immediately - unleashing hysteria by the conductors of the maydauns, cockroach of the police escaping in different directions (the right-wingers appealed to them, beat the cars, but they screwed), and an attack went on the blocked remnants of the anti-Maidan self-defense ... At the same time, lagging loners with St. George ribbons were beaten and killed .. Including torn from the cops, weakly trying to protect someone .. Then Kulikovo field, the House of Trade Unions ... It was impossible to watch, it was impossible to leave ... A terrible feeling of powerlessness and misunderstanding - HOW IS IT POSSIBLE ???? .... Odessa, shame on you, this is not a complete feeling .. It was scary to look at the townspeople with telephones (a video video of fun, ... la), strolling with CHILDREN (!!!!!!) near the burning building of the House of Trade Unions, while the crowd wanted to jump out of the window and raged, screaming slogans and urging everyone to kill ... Ah, Odessa ... What should you do to be forgiven for allowing ... I am writing this, and again very, very badly, the pictures of what happened do not let go ... I can not anymore . For reference, I watched streams from all sides, from the maydowns the streams were also very expressive, BUT !!! If these streams were carefully analyzed, they themselves were not ready for such a development of events, although they carefully avoided very DUSY moments !!! In addition, for some reason, the recordings of these streams are NOT SAVED either completely or partially! Question to experts, is it possible to restore them ???? And thanks for the courage to the two Odessa girls from the anti-Aidan, who, in frustrated, sagging voices almost until the very end, were reporting from the burning House of Trade Unions. Heaven to the lost.
      1. His
        His 20 May 2014 23: 48
        0
        And what happens when someone starts beating or insulting someone in an electric train? That's right - everyone either looks out the window together or takes off stealthily on the phone (show a friend). And in a country that has no idiology, fascism flourishes well
  33. Deadmen
    Deadmen 4 May 2014 10: 31
    +5
    pf ... CNN from the scene ..... "pro-Russian rebels with weapons are still visible in the city ..."

    pro-Russian rebels with weapons it sounds intimidating, I like it.
  34. CAPILATUS
    CAPILATUS 4 May 2014 10: 33
    +4
    Hang on guys! You stand, I believe!
    Kiev creatures that are now at the helm - do not run away, in the west nobody needs you and sooner or later they will get their own
  35. boozer
    boozer 4 May 2014 10: 39
    +1
    Finally, sensible information! I have been waiting for this for a long time, everything is concise, of course. In this form, it is necessary to provide information from the front! Thank. We are waiting for more.
  36. dik-fort
    dik-fort 4 May 2014 10: 43
    +1
    Quote: Hnikar
    We need to help with weapons at least

    And money, the war is expensive, The Fund for Assistance to Self-Defense Detachments of the South-East of Ukraine http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ It is unlikely that the ministers-millionaires of the Russian government will fork out, but will not lose money from me, I transferred to the Crimea as much as I can, since I myself there is no physical ability to help with arms.
  37. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 4 May 2014 10: 44
    +5
    Quote: Santor
    I could not sleep yesterday, anger choked ... Behind 30 years of service, children grew up ... If my child would be killed there, in the House of Trade Unions ... I would not smear snot ...
    After all, these pogromists haven’t left anywhere, they hang out in the center of Odessa shouting slogans .. Reinforcements arrived, and according to my information the regiment of the national guard of military unit 3039 is moving from Nikolaev as a whole .... And most importantly, among them the sea of ​​inhabitants of Odessa, residents of Odessa already identified merrily and dexterously poured bottles - these knots are still alive ????

    And you moan here and write curses against Putin ??? The hand rises ???
    WHY ENTER THE TROOPS ??? Who to protect - 10-20 00 of 10 millions ???

    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    Is it to them to introduce our boys? for slaughter ??? To ridicule ??? Where are 500 000 miners of Donbass ??? With Kyle then they will throw on our armored personnel carriers ???

    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... It was the first time since 1979 of the year I saw how young boys die ... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus ...

    The video allegedly from Kramatorsk is a stupid fake! Hammer the Anti-Maidan or the South-East into a search engine and look with what obscenities the ordinary inhabitants of Kramatorsk greeted the "liberators"!
  38. Hope1960
    Hope1960 4 May 2014 11: 23
    +1
    We must burn tanks with Molotov cocktails !!!! Eh, to plant weapons on them !!! Yes, adjust the SU-25 !!!
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 4 May 2014 11: 25
      +2
      Arch-wise thought
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: Hope1960
      We must burn the tanks with Molotov cocktails !!!

      Quote: Den 11
      Arch-wise thought

      Modern tanks - "Molotov cocktails"? Yes, you have not only a woman's name, but you are also a "blonde"!
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 4 May 2014 15: 13
        +1
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Modern tanks - "Molotov cocktails"?

        Firstly, they are not very "modern";

        Secondly - in all the reviewed material on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, TANK I have not yet seen (I will look at my opinion if someone provides material confirming otherwise);

        Thirdly, the MOST "SUPER-POOPER" modern tank will not resist the "archaic bottle".
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 4 May 2014 16: 48
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          Firstly, they are not very "modern";

          Secondly - in all the reviewed material on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, TANK I have not yet seen (I will look at my opinion if someone provides material confirming otherwise);

          Thirdly, the MOST "SUPER-POOPER" modern tank will not resist the "archaic bottle"

          First: Before the T-72, T-90-not strong and "modern", but before the Pzlll? Secondly: this is a response to the proposal: "burn TANKS with Molotov cocktails." Also: the tanks are attached to the troops "storming" the South-East. Thirdly: modern tanks are equipped with Means of Protection against fire mixtures. This was caused by not so effective use of incendiary bottles, but by the widespread use of napalm ammunition in the 50-60s. out of a hundred), if the defenders throw bottles of fire mixture at the "object", but "lay down" dozens of their fighters.
  39. Polarfox
    Polarfox 4 May 2014 11: 23
    +3
    ASKING CROSS
    I’m a military man myself and I want to give advice to people who stop equipment with a human shield ...
    you can stand, lie in front of them, but that won’t help, you won’t be able to stop them if they really get an order to break through (and as we know they already got it), you won’t be able to disable the equipment, but you can harm them .. So:

    1.If you come close to the technique, take a spray of the most resistant paint and paint over the triplex (devices for driving, aiming, shooting, adjustments) This will blind the car ... try to pull out or break the antenna, so the car will not be able to "speak and listen "! And you won't get far without communication!

    2. Paint one headlight on the car - it will work like a friend or foe system. If a car with one headlight approaches a checkpoint or a strong point, then you can safely work to defeat! ! I saw that there are grenade launchers and anti-tank weapons! I saw a car with one headlight or a column - work to kill first, otherwise they will destroy you!

    3. If the projector near you sprinkles paint on its back, red or glowing in the dark.
    1. saigon
      saigon 4 May 2014 12: 43
      +6
      What kind of advice is it easier to die? Just like this military man has already survived out of his mind. Do you have to ask a mechanic to mount the antenna? And how high is the btera and where is the antenna? And the landing on the armor will help you paint the triplexes differently. In which army did that adviser serve I don’t know, but not exactly in the Soviet and idiotic. I can’t understand the warriors do not know the area at night the equipment is not in the city. Why do fights in the city at night fire at panic and retreat stretching hello to mom and corpses and so a couple nights there is no war and punishers will cross over. What is there that there are no SA officers chtoli to crank up.
    2. saigon
      saigon 4 May 2014 12: 43
      +1
      What kind of advice is it easier to die? Just like this military man has already survived out of his mind. Do you have to ask a mechanic to mount the antenna? And how high is the btera and where is the antenna? And the landing on the armor will help you paint the triplexes differently. In which army did that adviser serve I don’t know, but not exactly in the Soviet and idiotic. I can’t understand the warriors do not know the area at night the equipment is not in the city. Why do fights in the city at night fire at panic and retreat stretching hello to mom and corpses and so a couple nights there is no war and punishers will cross over. What is there that there are no SA officers chtoli to crank up.
  40. sop.ov
    sop.ov 4 May 2014 11: 24
    +10
    In the area of ​​the fire station No. 38, located in the Artyom microdistrict, an attempt was made to penetrate into the city center militants of the "National Guard" on 2 buses with the support of 1 armored personnel carriers. The enemy was fired from small arms and suffered losses. There are no victims from the militia.
    It was a bit wrong. 1 armored personnel carrier was and 10 man on it. At the entrance to the fire, the meters behind 150 landed and on foot with the support of an armored personnel carrier tried to overcome a checkpoint (tiny-tiny - 3 m wide). A little in the distance stood a machine of militias (unarmed), they fired at it from AK-74 and PKP. Then a particularly brave warrior ran to the beginning of the fire boxes and tried to hit the car from an RPG. Fortunately, it turned out to be either oblique or nervous - the grenade got stuck in a tree (200 diameter mm) and the jet went into the parapet of the lawn. If it weren’t for the tree, there would be victims in the 5 floor opposite. Nobody fired at the warriors.

    “Information about the three knocked down turntables was not confirmed. As often happens, two different divisions “chalked up” the same helicopter. But 2 Mi-24 is also good, I think.
    Confirmed. The third helicopter - Mi-8. He was shot at from one of the checkpoints, received numerous injuries, and is now at the airport near Kramatorsk.
    The rest is more or less truthful information regarding Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.

    Sincerely, the civilian of the hero city of Slavyansk hi
  41. pav-pon1972
    pav-pon1972 4 May 2014 11: 29
    +6
    Eternal memory to Sergey Zhurikov and the militias who died during the defense of Russia !!! Rise, Russia !!!
  42. sop.ov
    sop.ov 4 May 2014 11: 36
    +4
    I was killed by today's video from Kramatorsk shown on Ukrainian TV - women, youth and men meet the Ukrainian military, they take out the water .. The idyll, finally they freed us and we can live normally as before ... And the climax - the shooting is being conducted by a fighter with an armored personnel carrier - a man runs out onto the road, stops the armored group and shouts into the alley, pointing his fingers - "There are two, I am a Nazi face, but they ran with machine guns, rather !!"

    And the rest of Kramatorsk residents showed ukrosmi? lol
  43. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 4 May 2014 11: 38
    +3
    Quote: Santor
    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!! Eternal memory and Glory to those who died for their freedom and will perish without wishing to become cattle .... But Russia has nothing to officially do there ... And unofficially - foreheads should already burn from the green stuff, elimination .. Elimination of creatures, quietly. Why is Mossad possible but not for us ??? Horseradish with two .... Death, to all Powders, let them choke on bananas, drop them out of windows ... No negotiations ....
    I apologize for the emotionality ... Since 1979, for the first time I saw how young boys are dying .... I know this ... And now sofa lovers - commanders can minus.

    And I agree!
  44. sop.ov
    sop.ov 4 May 2014 11: 39
    +5
    THEY HAVE NOT RIPPED AS CRIMEA FOR WHAT TO BECOME RUSSIA !!!!

    And who told you that all the polls of Donbass want to go to Russia? For us, Russia is a symbol of understanding and support.
  45. Ross
    Ross 4 May 2014 11: 40
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    Competently, the guys are fighting. Young people. Only the Bets need to be burned ... It is clear that they are the main danger ... It is probably time to create flying squads of hunters for these machines ... In an open confrontation, they can’t get it .. Yes, and run away the night ...
    Commander, dabble at the expense of flying units ... This is really a strong move ... Three four bonfires and arrogance will decrease ...

    My thoughts were ahead. Another night flashed. hi
  46. dik-fort
    dik-fort 4 May 2014 12: 07
    +1
    A good informative article "To the events in Odessa and Kramatorsk" http://sha-julin.livejournal.com/56392.html
  47. Leshka
    Leshka 4 May 2014 12: 15
    +1
    they need to put their arms at least
  48. Wels75
    Wels75 4 May 2014 12: 18
    0
    I will join the above. Every day they watch news on TV and on the Internet. I'm worried as if all this is happening in a neighboring city. Of course it is a pity that not all the population of Donbass supports the Antichrist. It is necessary to be united then the victory will be just around the corner !!!
    Hang on guys.
    PS: but you do not need to trust the Ukrainian media! There is no truth !!! There is only what they want and how they want, to present the Kiev junta to the West !!!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 4 May 2014 15: 17
      0
      Quote: Veles75
      Of course it’s a pity that not all the population of Donbass supports antichrist.

      Has OAK DECLINED? angry fool Ask your moderator to delete your comment!

      You start with the wrong "life" on the site ...
  49. Deadmen
    Deadmen 4 May 2014 12: 28
    +1
    that’s how small battles will go before the referendum.
  50. Egoza
    Egoza 4 May 2014 12: 31
    +8
    I repeat my post - rejoice!

    In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"

    In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"

    http://lifenews.ru/static/posts/2014/05/132550/faba82e552466a33fd01737e2538cc7b.
    jpg

    On the phone with Vasily Budik, supporters of federalization found his correspondence with the acting Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, in which Budik reports that in the near future he is ready to assemble a battalion of 600-800 people. According to the militias, Budik is a citizen of Georgia.
    Russian Spring
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a 4 May 2014 18: 41
      0
      "Go missing him" ...