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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 4 May

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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 4 May

17:37 Near with. Yuganovka Lugansk region armed self-defense fighters blocked border guards and under the threat of use weapons taken away in an unknown direction. This is stated in the official report of the Ministry of Internal Affairs:
“3 May in 15: 50 received a message from the duty department of the State Border Service of Ukraine that 3 May in 15: 10 is near s. Uganovka (Stanichno-Lugansk region) armed unidentified persons under threat of use of weapons were forcibly taken away in an unknown direction to the servicemen of the Border Service Department of the Village of Luganskaya, armed with service guns who served in the Niva service vehicle, the message said.

Thus, the first "corridor" at the border is opened.
17.30 Participants in a mass rally outside the building of the Odessa city police department obtained the release from 30 of the supporters of the federalization of Ukraine.

17:22 The Ministry of Internal Affairs reports on a successful special operation to seize a television center near Slavyansk. In the interaction of the special forces and the National Guard under the armored vehicles, two elderly watchmen were neutralized, with St. George's ribbons and Orthodox prayer books discovered.
17:01 According to the ITAR-TASS correspondent from the scene, supporters of federalization carried out a sweep of the territory in the forest near the city, where the national guardsmen and the radicals of the Right Sector were hiding. Shots were heard during the clashes. Data on the wounded and dead at the moment no.
According to the representative of the people's militia Yevgeny Gorbik, the self-defense fighters plan to take control of the traffic police post and gas station on the outskirts of Slavyansk, where armored equipment of the armed forces controlled by Kiev was previously located. “According to our data, armored vehicles left there. If there is infantry there, we will push it out,” he said.
Ukrainian troops in Slavyansk control a television tower, at which they entrenched themselves. Snipers are in the area. Also here are cars of the American brand Hummer.

16:31 In Odessa, more than a thousand people blocked the building of the municipal government of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, demanding that the supporters of federalization be detained on 2 in May.
People marched to the police building from the burnt down House of Trade Unions, which hung a huge flag of Russia. Protesters chant: "Odessans will not forgive", "Russia", "Down with the Kiev junta", "Right Sector - executioners". Demonstrators also demand the resignation of Governor Vladimir Nemirovsky, who is called the "murderer," blaming the deaths of people who have burned down in the House of Trade Unions.
Protesters are building barricades on nearby streets to prevent the detainees from being sent to the district court. Despite appeals to avoid clashes with the police, people are aggressive.

14:41 Today in Lviv, Korolenko Street was set on fire by the Russian Cultural Center.
Fully burned roof and attic. The building put out 40 fire engines. According to the head of the Russian Movement of Ukraine, a native Lviv citizen, Alexander Svistunov: “the city authorities have already declared that this is not a Nazi arson, but a result of electrical wiring ignition”.
14:25 Yatsenyuk instructed the Prosecutor General’s Office to look for a “Russian trace” in the tragic events in Odessa. He also promised to make "appropriate personnel appointments and rotations in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Odessa."
14:11 In Lugansk, on Sunday, the situation is calm, announced at noon (13: 00 Moscow time), the rally of supporters of federalization has not yet begun.
According to the Interfax-Ukraine correspondent, there is no large gathering of people in the central square. On the square, as well as in the city as a whole, citizens walk around, there are no organized groups with any symbols. Those who call themselves Southeast Army fighters set up roadblocks at all key entrances to the city.
13:16 The militia in the Donetsk region claim that they managed to take the position of the Ukrainian security forces. One of the leaders of the self-defense of Donbass, Miroslav Rudenko, said that during the night battles they managed to recapture Kramatorsk, the village of Andreevka, Konstantinovka and Gorlovka. Security forces suffered losses.
Meanwhile, according to Rudenko, the security forces failed to assault the City Executive Committee in Mariupol, since practically all city residents took the defense of the city. Now the situation in the Donbass is assessed as calm, Interfax reports.
According to him, as a result of night battles there were casualties on both sides, meanwhile, in the morning, on Sunday, the situation in the Donbas was calm.
12:28 Resistance of the residents of Kramatorsk continues, the South-Eastern Front information center reported.
According to one of the militia, in the confrontation of the security forces are mainly involved civilians without weapons, without Molotov cocktails, with icons in their hands.

12:25 Ukrainian armored vehicles entered the city of Shakhtersk, Donetsk region, civilian journalists report.
11:20 In Kramatorsk, the work of the largest plants - Novokramatorsk Machine Building, Energomashspetsstal, Kramatorsk Heavy Machine Tool Plant, Starokramatorsk Machine Building Plant has been suspended. This was reported by local media.
"Enterprises that have no analogues in Ukraine, which employ a total of up to 50 thousands of people and associated with orders for unique equipment with dozens of countries, plan to resume their work on Monday (5 May-approx. Ed.)"
- give the media a message from the operational headquarters created by the city council. The reasons for the suspension of work are not specified.
We have not yet received confirmation of these messages. Nobody answers phone calls at the operational headquarters and the directorate of the Novokramatorsk Machine Building Plant.
11:10 Odessa. Tymoshenko is planning an attack on WWII veterans.

08:39 INTERFAX - According to the latest data, about ten people died in the course of a military operation in Kramatorsk (Donetsk region), the military control the city, the Russia 24 correspondent reports on Sunday.
"During the operation in Kramatorsk, about 10 people died, including two soldiers. The military managed to take all the buildings that were held there, these were the buildings of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the SBU, and, moreover, the TV tower was taken. Now We know that Russian channels are turned off and Ukrainian channels are turned on, ”the correspondent said on the air.

07:13 The night in Donetsk Slavyansk, where the military operation is underway to liberate the city from the supporters of federalization, was calm, reports “Russia 24”. According to the correspondent of the TV channel, no shots were heard in the city. There is no panic among the population.
05:51 In Mariupol (Donetsk region) near the building of the City Council at the present time there is no active action by the Ukrainian security officials, reports "5 channel" on Sunday.
4:30 In a clash in Lugansk, one supporter of federalization was killed, two more were injured, the Russia 24 TV channel reported.
04:14 Supporters of federalization occupied the military enlistment office in Lugansk. Soldiers conscripts were brought out of the building. The weapon, which was in the military, was transferred under the responsibility of the fighters of the "Berkut", who took part in the assault, reports the "Eastern version".
03:39 The main office of the Mariupol branch of PrivatBank is burning in the city center. The building is engulfed in fire completely, according to NTV.
02:35 In Lugansk, as a result of clashes between supporters of the federalization of Ukraine and law enforcement officers there are dead. This was told by the representative of the press center of the headquarters of the "United Army of the Southeast" Alexander Markitan. “Two were injured easily, and one was wounded in the stomach, and he died,” he noted.

02:31 At least five militiamen suffered as a result of a military operation of the military in the region of Kramatorsk, Donetsk region of Ukraine, the local self-defense spokesman Ilya Dolzhinsky said.
01:45 During the antiterrorist operation in Konstantinovka, Ukrainian special forces officers suffered. The Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Arsen Avakov, wrote on his Facebook, reports UNN.
00:47 In Konstantinovka are fighting for roadblocks. In Mariupol, the Ukrainian security forces stormed the building of the City Council. Mariupol included a large national armored unit on the armored vehicles. One of the representatives of the self-defense staff of the city, Mikhail Krutko, said that the storming of the City Council had begun. The situation is no less calm in Konstantinovka, where local residents are fighting for checkpoints, according to the reports of the Russian Spring. Thus, the Ukrainian authorities began a military operation against supporters of federalization.
00:32 The journalists became aware of the frightening details of how the Ukrainian military are preparing to participate in the punitive operation. It turns out that before being sent to the southeast, they are asked are they ready to shoot women. The questionnaire, in which there is such a question, was at the disposal of the online publication Life News. Soldiers are asked to evaluate their readiness to execute the command "for battle" in case "the separatists hide behind the women who support them." It is reported that every soldier is obliged to pass this test before a business trip, specifies the Russia 24 TV channel.
00:30 Andrei Parubiy promised to conduct anti-terrorist operations in all cities, "where people's lives are under threat." "After the ATO is completed in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, we will also conduct an active phase of operations in other cities where extremists and terrorists ignore Ukrainian law and threaten the lives of Ukrainian citizens while conducting illegal activities," the Secretary of the National Security Council said. and defense of Ukraine Andrei Parubiya UNN.
00:24 Shooting in Mariupol does not subside. Users of social networks report fights in the city center and a major fire. While it remains unclear what exactly is burning on one of the streets of the city. According to one version, these are tires left on the road.
00:09 The headquarters of the supporters of federalization in Mariupol are stormed by unmarked fighters. About an hour ago, the assault on the Mariupol City Council began. The attack was launched by people in black uniforms and masks. On overalls of fighters there are no identification marks, informs ITAR-TASS.
23:53 Andriy Paruby declares that the National Guard of Ukraine prevented the capture of the military enlistment office in Lugansk. "Among our guys there is one wounded, but the attack is repelled," he said on the 5 channel.
23:50 Ukrainian special forces firing warning fire in Mariupol. Special forces units are already in the city center. "Basically, they are located in the courtyards and from there are warning fire," - told Interfax representative of the headquarters of self-defense Mikhail Krutko. He noted that unarmed citizens gathered on the main square of the city.
23:28 Ukrainian units began a military operation in the city of Konstantinovka, Donetsk region. The armored personnel carriers passed through roadblocks of the people's militia located in the outskirts of the city, said Denis Pushilin, the co-chairman of the government of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, noted in a statement to the ITAR-TASS news agency.
23:26 At the Dnipro Arena stadium in Dnipropetrovsk, local football ultras gathered together to burn Odessa. More than 1 000 people celebrate their victory. Rechevki: death to the Sparks of "moskaley on knives", etc. Prepare a batch on May 9 Victory Day in Dnepropetrovsk.
23:20 Shooting is heard in Donetsk Konstantinovka. In Konstantinovka in the area of ​​the TV tower there is a battle between the Ukrainian security forces and the separatists. Eyewitnesses say that law enforcement officers landed in the city, reports the portal "News Donbass.
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  1. Canep
    Canep 4 May 2014 06: 33
    +40
    The civil war is in full swing. Fights are fought in 4 cities of Ukraine, except as a civil war, I can not call it whatever.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 07: 08
      +24
      Two cities we defended. Gorlovka and Konstantinovka withstood the assault.

      Right-click on the image and open the image to enlarge.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 4 May 2014 07: 28
        +58
        You cannot win only by defending yourself. So sooner or later they will knock everyone out. It is necessary to find and destroy the enemy in the den.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 08: 43
          +15
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          You cannot win only by defending yourself.

          The forces are not equal, you can’t argue against tanks with machine guns.
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 4 May 2014 09: 17
            +36
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The forces are not equal, you can’t argue against tanks with machine guns.

            I'm not saying that, to go in frontal attacks and put people. In defense, by the way, they will also kill, only for a longer time.

            I am for the extermination of the enemy in his den by the methods of specialists. Only then they will be afraid, they will not be up to punitive operations, and they themselves will want the border.
            1. COLUN
              COLUN 4 May 2014 10: 18
              +1
              Quote: Nikolai S.

              I am for the extermination of the enemy in his den by the methods of specialists. Only then they will be afraid, they will not be up to punitive operations, and they themselves will want the border.


              This is war. The story of this soldier does not cause pity ?! Maybe this is more like the story of some Fritz near Stalingrad?
              1. Dmitriy1975
                Dmitriy1975 4 May 2014 11: 41
                +24
                And you thought you came for a walk, the Nazis should rot on the sidelines, scum corrupt, cheap, I hope those who survive from these kov will bury their own children alive
                1. striker
                  striker 4 May 2014 15: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: COLUN

                  The story of this soldier does not cause pity ?!


                  In the video (0:10), the fighter says that when they came out of the shelling their APC went to the ditch. It looks like the one about which Steshin wrote on his Twitter yesterday:
                  At the request of readers: the army left Kramatorsk a long time ago at the airfield. They retreated from Andreevka so sharply that BTR laid on the roof.

                  https://twitter.com/kp_steshin/status/462698401487151104

                  Andreevka is where the old man’s armored troop carrier moved recently. Maybe this one.
                  1. Apologet.Ru
                    Apologet.Ru 4 May 2014 15: 49
                    +14
                    hi
                    Requiem for Ukraine ... almost
                    A legendary country called Ukraine dissolves into the past, dissolving in a bloody maidanut present.
                    The glorious heiress of Kievan Rus, infected by the bacilli of Western Russophobia, ends its current existence by transforming into a mutant - the Galician Ukraine - covered with ulcers of Bandera neo-Nazism that exudes fetid pus of frenzied hatred of everything Russian.
                    Before our eyes, dissolving into a child of nationalistic frenzy, the fraternal community of nationalities called themselves Ukrainians with their glorious ancestors in the person of B. Khmelnitsky and T. Shevchenko, the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks and the soldiers liberating the Red Army disappears.
                    And they are replaced by Uk_ry - not remembering kinship - breeding at a frantic speed on the soil, generously spiced with greens from non-state funds of g_yrop and p_ndostan, the ideology of fascism from a bunch of moral afterlife banderlogs from the UPA and OUN, punishers from the special battalions of Roland and N -The members of the Galicia division.
                    ***
                    But one hopes that among the residents of Nezalezhnaya who have kept their minds, there will be that Taras Bulba who will stop the bacchanalia, jumping into the ecstasy of Wild Dances zombie with the prospects of unrealizable memberships, Ukrov and ask - Well, what did your Poles help you? ....
              2. Roman-kzn
                Roman-kzn 4 May 2014 11: 44
                +13
                Doesn't call! He thought a hundred of them would be greeted with flowers and bread and salt?!?
                1. Tartary
                  Tartary 4 May 2014 14: 24
                  +6
                  Quote: Roman-kzn
                  Doesn't call! He thought a hundred of them would be greeted with flowers and bread and salt?!?


                  I am sure that this guy and many, many, thought so ... After all, they only listen to "fathers" - commanders, and the freaks of adults from the PS, and propaganda (like their own) mass media ..
                  How did he know the TRUTH ??????????????

                  Guess ???!

                  Normal guy! It’s normal then, when he understands what's what, he will beat those who fooled him and killed his people!

                  So I think ... (from "Mimino")

                  Maybe I'm zombied? wink
                  1. Roman-kzn
                    Roman-kzn 4 May 2014 16: 33
                    +2
                    It remains only to hope that their brains remain! sad
                  2. RADIK
                    RADIK 4 May 2014 17: 33
                    +14
                    I’ll tell you one clever idea, but don’t be offended smile ... (from "Mimino") This guy picked up a machine gun, the most important thing in a vest, a symbol of the pride of Soviet soldiers, and went to fight against the allegedly Russian invaders. I think the fathers commanders hammered it into him by sending him to fight. I arrived in the city, and there were residents. So how dumb you have to be, so as not to see everything that happens. If someone wants to know the truth, he will find it, and this is really a ram led by shepherds. It's a pity to see the vest on these freaks smile
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                    2. GRANATE-19
                      GRANATE-19 5 May 2014 00: 41
                      +6
                      Quote: RADIK
                      Vest sorry to see on these freaks

                      And what a stump they are in vests, because MOCKAL MARGELOV introduced them into the airborne forces (although he was born in the city of Dnepropetrovsk then - Yekaterinoslav, the Russian Empire, and he is a Soviet military commander, army general, Hero of the Soviet Union and fought against the Nazis, so he faces himself Banderlog spotted)! It is necessary to jump and tear vests on yourself, otherwise it is not patriotic in MOCKAL vests to fight your own people! Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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                      2. GRANATE-19
                        GRANATE-19 5 May 2014 01: 04
                        0
                        Quote: GRANATE-19
                        even though he was born in the city of Dnepropetrovsk then - Yekaterinoslav, the Russian Empire, and he was a Soviet military leader, army general, Hero of the Soviet Union and fought against the Nazis on the Ukrainian fronts - he helped Ukraine to occupy, so that he stained himself in front of banderlogs!
                  3. RADIK
                    RADIK 4 May 2014 17: 33
                    +3
                    I’ll tell you one clever idea, but don’t be offended smile ... (from "Mimino") This guy picked up a machine gun, the most important thing in a vest, a symbol of the pride of Soviet soldiers, and went to fight against the allegedly Russian invaders. I think the fathers commanders hammered it into him by sending him to fight. I arrived in the city, and there were residents. So how dumb you have to be, so as not to see everything that happens. If someone wants to know the truth, he will find it, and this is really a ram led by shepherds. It's a pity to see the vest on these freaks smile
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                3. GRANATE-19
                  GRANATE-19 5 May 2014 00: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: Roman-kzn
                  Doesn't call! He thought a hundred of them would be greeted with flowers and bread and salt?!?

                  Yes, man, they’ll also bring a bride ... Remember yourself, you are fighting with your people, what do you think? He thinks about you a boob, and what should he do !? Instead of salt - 9 grams, instead of bread - an RPG shot! Or do you think that you just ride a mass of armored personnel carriers and don’t do anything, except that you carry law-enforcement officers and stick out at roadblocks - this is not part of the massacre of the people! Sooner or later, the right-wingers will bind you with blood (they will force you to shoot or they will shoot you, but you’ll stand next to them and you won’t stop them, and EVERYTHING is YOU A WAR CRIMIN and witnesses with cameras are everywhere now, AND WITHOUT AN EXTENDED TIME they will look for you a fool!) Lick on right-handed boots until you meet with RETURN! Just do not forget about MAMMA, you have one! Get out of there home, or better yet, to the militia! Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
              3. Nicholas C.
                Nicholas C. 4 May 2014 11: 57
                +13
                Quote: COLUN
                The story of this soldier does not cause pity ?!

                Does he defend his homeland, his land, his people, his family, his freedom?
                On the contrary, he wanted to cut down the pennies easily - he went against those who stood up for it all.

                And you need to feel sorry for him?

                One can only regret how easily Kolomoisky, Tymoshenko-Kapitelman, Poroshenko-Weizman with kagal set one part of Ukraine on another. And the Bandera fascists serving them have already committed such crimes against the people for which there will be no forgiveness or mercy for them.
                1. Buran
                  Buran 4 May 2014 19: 22
                  +5
                  He decided to cut down the fighting ... with his spine root, and a medal with a pension. Punisher sr ... ny, also vested vest. They put a root and they’ll put you unfinished. This is for you to keep the answer for the nurse nurse.
              4. 1Andrei
                1Andrei 4 May 2014 11: 59
                +15
                Quote: COLUN
                Quote: Nikolai S.

                I am for the extermination of the enemy in his den by the methods of specialists. Only then they will be afraid, they will not be up to punitive operations, and they themselves will want the border.


                This is war. The story of this soldier does not cause pity ?! Maybe this is more like the story of some Fritz near Stalingrad?

                I suggest this entoy puppy go sobbing, so on. Less. And this is only the beginning. When, if given, he sees the link of the Russian SU-34 at the same time and goes down for the most part. Where are you going ???? Who are you fighting with ??? ? P @ dl.
                1. ArhipenkoAndrey
                  ArhipenkoAndrey 4 May 2014 12: 16
                  +15
                  This young, stupid man, from the "army" came to kill unarmed civilians a little, but here everything is not so simple offensive.
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                3. GRANATE-19
                  GRANATE-19 5 May 2014 01: 10
                  0
                  Quote: 1Andrei
                  I suggest this entoy puppy go sobbing, so on. Less. And this is only the beginning. When, if given, he sees the link of the Russian SU-34 at the same time and goes down for the most part. Where are you going ???? Who are you fighting with ??? ? P @ dl.

                  He will not see the link and he will not descend for the most part, he will not have time - bang and everything - is already in CLEANING! And there they will ask for 30 pieces of silver ...
              5. Bayard
                Bayard 4 May 2014 12: 18
                +19
                It’s not a pity the fascist, and even if he just decided to earn money from Kolomoysky, all the more! This is a war, people for their land, for faith, for the future of children, who has more motivation?
                Prisoners should not be taken. Punishers should not doubt their future!
                1. abrakadabre
                  abrakadabre 4 May 2014 12: 40
                  +7
                  Prisoners should not be taken. Punishers should not doubt their future!
                  Only here it is not necessary to voice it officially. Rats cornered will fight in earnest. In the meantime, they will have a "chance" to avoid death, they will fight half their strength.
                  Therefore, officially take prisoners. But in reality ... he died in a clash or in unclear circumstances.
                  And then prisoners also have extraordinarily distracting resources: people to guard, food, time ...
                2. maxxdesign
                  maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 01
                  +3
                  shoot all these punishers according to wartime law on the spot! cut off Bosko and at the entrances to the cities put on stakes along the sidelines! so that the next batch of Nazis sees what awaits them where they go with weapons! and brand the swastika on your forehead!
              6. Umnichka
                Umnichka 4 May 2014 17: 51
                +3
                Probably nothing was a guy. He went to fight against his own people - he died like a dog. There he is dear.
                1. Dmitry Toderes
                  Dmitry Toderes 5 May 2014 00: 35
                  +1
                  "There he is dear"

                  That is to hell.
              7. Nicanor
                Nicanor 4 May 2014 21: 10
                +1
                Pity-nil! The guys have made their choice, are they ready to die for the idea of ​​Banderlog and their owners? Well, then smear your skis, your priests are "waiting" for your priests! And in the east they are also expected ...
              8. Tambov Wolf
                Tambov Wolf 4 May 2014 23: 02
                +1
                Death to fascist invaders and their accomplices of the USA.
              9. RAA
                RAA 5 May 2014 00: 18
                0
                I am sorry if the normal died. But after the paratroopers were diluted with Bandera, such cases will be inevitable.
              10. JACTUS RECTUS
                JACTUS RECTUS 5 May 2014 04: 20
                +1
                These juvenile scum, thought they came for a walk, BURN IN HELL, FOODS !!!!!
          2. lukke
            lukke 4 May 2014 09: 30
            +22
            The forces are not equal, you can’t trample against tanks with machine guns
            and from the roof of a high-rise building to throw a cocktail on the engine compartment fear of heights prevents?
            1. boozer
              boozer 4 May 2014 10: 01
              +15
              By the way, why do not burn the junta tanks? And where is the RPG? Or drag them for beauty?
              1. _Forgiven_
                _Forgiven_ 4 May 2014 10: 13
                +18
                I understand that in Kramah and Konstach they most likely are not. The video from Kramatorsk shows that in the presence of an RPG, it was possible to put all 6 pieces in one salvo of six soldiers from behind trees. The siloviki did not disperse throughout the territory; they walked along the road. It was possible to go up and get crazy. But see them not there
                I saw RPGs at a block post near Krasny Liman and in Slavyansk, in other cities I do not know about their availability
                1. Fin
                  Fin 4 May 2014 12: 05
                  +7
                  Quote: _Forgiven_
                  The video from Kramatorsk shows that in the presence of an RPG, it was possible to put all 6 pieces in one salvo of six soldiers from behind trees.

                  I also think about it. It’s not difficult to shoot infantry on the bets. Maybe some unspoken agreement on the army doesn’t shoot, so as not to anger? And clashes occur only with pravoseki?
                  1. Ptah
                    Ptah 4 May 2014 12: 19
                    +7
                    Quote: Fin
                    Maybe some unspoken agreement on the army doesn’t shoot, so as not to anger? And clashes occur only with pravoseki?

                    What is called - "From the tongue removed ...". Or rather, "taken out of my head." good
                    Maybe the army is not seen in special atrocities, such as the Odessa ritual burning ...
                    Yes, and apparently serving (by definition, it should be) different from banderlog with Bosko stuffed with ardent Russophobia. what
                  2. maxxdesign
                    maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 04
                    +7
                    they are without identification marks - that means this is not an army but bandits! 6 RPGs on the roofs and 2 submachine guns for each grenade launcher to finish off those who decided to shoot back ... the fire command on the radio ... 10-15 minutes
                    1. Buran
                      Buran 4 May 2014 19: 30
                      +3
                      In reality, the RPG on the roof is bad manners. For a remote shot you need to have a skill, the militias do not have them, and if they were in distant Afghanistan, and the escape routes are not kosher. It is necessary to hit for sure, which means from around the corner, or hidden lower tier positions, followed by a machine-gun automatic cover.
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                    3. GRANATE-19
                      GRANATE-19 5 May 2014 01: 20
                      0
                      Quote: maxxdesign
                      they are without identification marks - that means this is not an army but bandits! 6 RPGs on the roofs and 2 submachine guns for each grenade launcher to finish off those who decided to shoot back ... the fire command on the radio ... 10-15 minutes

                      One grenade launcher, one machine gunner and two machine gunners, sometimes reinforced by a sniper. This is a mobile, rapidly moving detachment, such people run around the city or the mountains - bang bang and hid and did not catch and did not get and did not get!
                2. Zaslavsky-S
                  Zaslavsky-S 4 May 2014 12: 35
                  +17
                  The Czechs, this column, would have been burned by the moment. And we are all asleep, but we are shooting on video.
                3. Anatolich
                  Anatolich 4 May 2014 15: 24
                  +3
                  Their "flies" are old, one militia said that three pieces did not work near Kramatorsk ...
              2. Anatolich
                Anatolich 4 May 2014 15: 50
                +2
                Egypt, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Kiev, Crimea, Lugansk, Glory
                nsk ...
                ... as the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declares. More. Then three more armor approached them and it began — not to raise the head. We moved away from the position, without loss ...
                yesterday
                20:23
                Dmitry Steshin
                Dmitry Steshin @ kp_steshin
                special correspondent Komsomol truth: Chechnya, Dagestan, Beslan, South Ossetia, Egypt, Libya, Syria Egypt, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Kiev, Crimea, Lugansk, Glory
                nsk ...
                ...three flies failed in a row! The landing was on the armor, and we began to hit the BETs from the grenade launchers. They had losses, and not 2 people ...
                yesterday

                20:21
                Dmitry Steshin
                Dmitry Steshin @ kp_steshin
                special correspondent Komsomol truth: Chechnya, Dagestan, Beslan, South Ossetia, Egypt, Libya, Syria Egypt, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Kiev, Crimea, Lugansk, Glory
                nsk ...
                Details of yesterday’s morning battle on Karachun Mountain from the participant. "Landing
                http://www.kp.ru/daily/26226/3109754/ вот ссылка можете почитать, там и про гранатометы и почему не стреляют по военнослужащим
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 10: 08
              +6
              Quote: lukke
              and from the roof of a high-rise building to throw a cocktail on the engine compartment fear of heights prevents?

              It’s easy to hit the clave, but to send you there and you’ll change your opinion and the comments too.
              1. volkodav
                volkodav 4 May 2014 13: 32
                +13
                Yes, you’re wrong Alexander (though they didn’t answer me) The mining region of ammonite is probably a bunch of diving, for fishing. What prevents a couple of landmines in front of block posts from laying, each kilogram? and on the streets to make bookmarks in wells - laziness or lack of professionalism of coordinators. We visited, we know what it is and what it is eaten with, or Ramzan should send his amnestied specialists for this, and what hinders how to seize arsenals at the storage facility, everyone is waiting when Russian Private Vanya Pupkin, Sergeant Egor Zalupkin come and the bad Mykolam and Dmitro they’ll do it in the ass, and they’ve waited for them to shoot them like unarmed rabbits
                1. Buran
                  Buran 4 May 2014 19: 35
                  +3
                  Where are you going to lay them, in a densely populated city? High-explosive landmaking is a science not taught to miners by specialists in demolition.
              2. lukke
                lukke 4 May 2014 14: 55
                +7
                It’s easy to hit the clave, but to send you there and you’ll change your opinion and the comments too.
                before writing the disrespectful Sasha, I had already served in my time and I know what I was capable of and what I was not capable of. If age allowed - would serve further, and not on the forum "have fun"
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            3. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 5 May 2014 00: 40
              0
              "Does fear of heights interfere with throwing a cocktail on the engine compartment from the roof of an apartment building?"

              Are they like now in the countryside around cities? What are the high-rise buildings? In rural areas, these reptiles have a three-fold advantage. If the militias attack, they will kill them all. And in the cities they will last long. Given the zero level of training of the Nazis to take the city will be oh how not easy.
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          4. VAF
            VAF 4 May 2014 09: 31
            +32
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The forces are not equal, you can’t trample against tanks with machine guns


            Sasha, from the point of view of tactics of conducting B, D dear Nikolay S. absolutely RIGHT +! soldier
            (read "early vaf'a. I painted everything).
            And who prevented the burning of all this armored vehicles and artillery in places of temporary deployment earlier in the night? request
            After all, the pictures recently showed aerial reconnaissance ... they are standing maidanut in orderly rows .. like in a parade and very, very compact. (Well, about the level of training .. I wrote the same), unfortunately recourse
            1. boozer
              boozer 4 May 2014 10: 02
              +16
              They thought they had no gas and they would stand there forever. Nobody has yet canceled the guerrilla war. To go underground as grandfathers taught! And so the junta will kill all one by one ...
              1. Dmitry Toderes
                Dmitry Toderes 5 May 2014 00: 48
                0
                The urban jungle is the most dangerous. Right-wingers get bogged down - and they’re afraid to go - they probably look at every window with fear.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 10: 09
              +7
              Quote: vaf
              And who prevented the burning of all this armored vehicles and artillery in places of temporary deployment earlier in the night?

              You think she’s not guarded by this technique. There, not only were they catching meat, but there are specialists too, and this option has been calculated for a long time.
              1. VAF
                VAF 4 May 2014 13: 28
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                You think she’s not guarded by this technique. There, not only were they catching meat, but there are specialists too, and this option has been calculated for a long time.


                Sasha. I'm not a "ground specialist". but to remove the "maydanutogo on the streame" ... problem .. not a problem at all ... after all, not all of our pure citizens. After all, there are also specialists .. at least from the former.
                Plus, the surprise factor ... no one has canceled.
                According to aerial photographs ... the maydaunas did not calculate and did not intend to.
            3. Hariva
              Hariva 4 May 2014 20: 49
              +1
              And who prevented the burning of all this armored vehicles and artillery in places of temporary deployment earlier in the night? request
              After all, the pictures recently showed aerial reconnaissance ...

              RPG unfortunately does not hit 4 km ... Or do you think that Ukrainian. are the fighters so stupid that they don’t even put military guard? Secrets do not equip?
          5. 341712
            341712 4 May 2014 10: 41
            +4
            I saw RPGs boasting, showing! where are the burned boxes?
          6. Russ69
            Russ69 4 May 2014 10: 42
            +10
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The forces are not equal, you can’t argue against tanks with machine guns.

            And where is the most effective weapon of guerrilla warfare? That’s a landmine on the road ...
            1. Ace in the sleeve
              Ace in the sleeve 4 May 2014 12: 40
              +4
              And where is the most effective weapon of guerrilla warfare? That’s a landmine on the road ...


              Guys, you seem quite wild here surrounded by your own kind. Do not you think what they can answer? Or are any corpses pure statistics for you here? From the series, let enough people be killed so that Russia can intervene?
              1. Anatolich
                Anatolich 4 May 2014 15: 32
                +9
                I read an interview with some militia that the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are loyal and behave more or less calmly, which of course does not apply to PS and PMCs. Now, if among the civilians there were coordinators who would calculate pravosekov and mercenaries, and give a tip to snipers, I think the soldiers themselves would be happy to get rid of them, they do not like scumbags anywhere.
                1. builder
                  builder 4 May 2014 20: 42
                  0
                  We would like to get rid ourselves in a quiet
              2. Andrey77
                Andrey77 4 May 2014 17: 40
                +1
                Russia will not intervene. Who wanted (Crimea) - already part of Russia. And who didn’t want to ... choose their own path.
          7. Anisim1977
            Anisim1977 4 May 2014 10: 48
            +5
            Disarm and burn in the parking lot at night.
            In war, as in war ... it’s not a pity. hi
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 11: 35
              +1
              Quote: Anisim1977
              Disarm and burn in the parking lot at night.

              Sitting in front of the computer, everyone knows how and what needs to be done.
              1. Anatolich
                Anatolich 4 May 2014 15: 39
                +5
                From the side, of course, it looks like that, but what it will look like if from the side of the Russian Federation crowds of Russians stretch to the borders, there and so they see around the same Russian saboteurs. Incidentally, I served in a reconnaissance contract in 201 MSD, so some skills remained. Speaking of Russian saboteurs NYT: Slavyansk militias have Ukrainian weapons, Russians are not among them

                The New York Times correspondent spent a week at the location of the 12th company of the militia of the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk in Slavyansk. He is sure that they are supported by the local population.

                RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140504/1006483284.html#ixzz30kJsgfBU
          8. Varangian22
            Varangian22 4 May 2014 12: 55
            +4
            Many do not even have machine guns, and with a baton against the "Kalash" a lot is not navoyesh - this is me for critics of low activity of the population. This is after all a war, not a fight after a binge!
            1. maxxdesign
              maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 08
              +5
              that there is not a single hunter in the southeast? charge buckshot for starters .. and there and trophy machines can get hold of!
              1. Anatolich
                Anatolich 4 May 2014 16: 56
                +2
                Well, you probably played a "stalker" and outplayed, try in real life for a group of military men in armored vehicles with machine guns with a gun. I think you won't last long. If only they walked alone, maybe it would have rolled, but no
          9. Dubox
            Dubox 4 May 2014 13: 48
            +1
            The forces are really not equal, but with the right organization in the city there are chances. The main thing is not to go into direct confrontation. Act in small groups, suddenly injecting and disappearing again. Do not reinvent the wheel. There are many guides about this. here is one of them;
            Battle tactics in settlements http://9e-maya.org/index.php?topic=625.0;all
            Guerrilla warfare tactics http://stjag.ru/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=30685
          10. Kamarada
            Kamarada 4 May 2014 15: 46
            0
            our grandfathers went against tanks and with a sapper shovel
          11. mamont5
            mamont5 4 May 2014 17: 22
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The forces are not equal, you can’t argue against tanks with machine guns.


            Why with guns. As I understand it, there are ATGMs, of which 2 turntables were shot down. If there are for turntables, then there are for armored vehicles.
          12. Roman 57 rus
            Roman 57 rus 4 May 2014 18: 30
            +1
            It is necessary to study and improve the "Chechen" tactics of warfare.
          13. Ilotan
            Ilotan 4 May 2014 22: 27
            +2
            Quote: Andrey77
            The questionnaire example is inappropriate. It is about the same in any country. By the way, if you are liable for military service: "Do you consider yourself ready to use weapons against the civilian population, which by their illegal actions prevents you from fulfilling the assigned task and are trying to take possession of the weapon?"
            --
            It seems that the "velikoukry" did not even hear about the "Geneva Convention" ... Shame.
            --
            Sorry, did you serve in the army?

            I served in the Soviet and Russian Army. I have not met questionnaires with similar questions. And in which army did you serve?
        2. lukke
          lukke 4 May 2014 09: 28
          +31
          You cannot win only by defending yourself. So sooner or later they will knock everyone out. It is necessary to find and destroy the enemy in the den.
          Yes, it doesn't look like "defense" either, Kramatorsk was simply not held. I watch reports - healthy young men walk with an idle air around the armored personnel carriers and take pictures with mobile phones. The number of casualties on the part of the military is 2 people - excuse me, in the Caucasus, during the assault on one house (not high-rise buildings), the security forces lose so much. My impression is that the majority in the Southeast is still in an amorphous state and others are unlikely to ever come out of it. But yes, that's their business ...
          1. Ace in the sleeve
            Ace in the sleeve 4 May 2014 12: 46
            +5
            Yes, it doesn't look like "defense" either, Kramatorsk was simply not held. I watch reports - healthy young men walk with an idle air around the armored personnel carriers and take pictures with mobile phones. The number of casualties on the part of the military is 2 people - excuse me, in the Caucasus, during the assault on one house (not high-rise buildings), the security forces lose so much. My impression is that the majority in the Southeast is still in an amorphous state and others are unlikely to ever come out of it. But yes, that's their business ...


            Yes, neither one nor the other does not want to fight with their own and die for someone's interests. They all live there, and on the part of them they are trying to wind up - some die for Putin - Ukrainians are enemies, on the other die for Kolomoisky and Russian enemies. So the army shoots in the air, and the militias in milk, periodically only specialists or mercenaries from either side are connected - and provide corpses and wounded. And then the couch army wants them to really kill each other
            1. VAF
              VAF 4 May 2014 13: 34
              +7
              Quote: Ace in the sleeve
              They all live there, and on the part of them they are trying to wind up - some die for Putin - Ukrainians are enemies, on the other die for Kolomoisky and Ko - Russian enemies. So the army shoots in the air, and the militias in milk, periodically only specialists or mercenaries from either side are connected - and provide corpses and wounded. And then the couch army wants them to really kill each other


              And the ace ... seems ... BLUE? from the pillar am
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        4. Akvadra
          Akvadra 4 May 2014 17: 55
          0
          Now it’s important to survive. Drive into the den a little bit later.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 4 May 2014 08: 38
        +5
        Good morning. If I express seditious thought, in the Southeast:
        when the unrest began, the seizure of administrative buildings, etc., I thought that it was all to divert attention from the Crimea-Ukrainian authorities Turchinov-Yatsenyuk buried there and she would not be up to the Crimea, that is. then I did not think that in the Southeast something could grow together, like weaning part of the territory.
        After all, we need SE to maintain economic ties with Russia, i.e. the region needs only economic independence.
        What do you think about that? Only without words about fascism?
        1. boozer
          boozer 4 May 2014 10: 04
          +2
          I agree, probably it is ...
        2. maxxdesign
          maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 15
          +3
          so it should! the whole economy of ukraine was kept at the expense of the southeast ... Russia now also does not really need extra territories that need to be fed, everything must be rebuilt and adjusted anew. just have agreements on trade and economics! Crimea is a separate story, there is a fleet there. Russia is cooperating with Belarus and Kazakhstan ... and does not claim any territory .. why? so southeastern Ukraine is in any case for those who live in this territory! (Ukraine is written with a small one, not from ill will, but from the fact that while there is Nazi-Bender lawlessness, they have not earned respect to be with a capital "U")
      3. Siberian German
        Siberian German 4 May 2014 11: 53
        +1
        judging by the reports of our media, the picture is not so rosy - I can’t say that it’s just so look at the fighters are very active in all cities
      4. Dubox
        Dubox 4 May 2014 13: 41
        +1
        Combat tactics in settlements
        http://9e-maya.org/index.php?topic=625.0;all

        I think very useful information for the defenders. It will not be superfluous to print and hand out self-defense fighters
      5. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 4 May 2014 13: 55
        +1
        victory in battle does not mean victory in war! as long as the Avakovs, Turchins, the eggs and the timothy are alive, the war will continue! this timothy is preparing an attack on veterans V.O.V. on May 9 there is a video on YouTube where she personally says it!
      6. alex_83
        alex_83 4 May 2014 23: 34
        0
        Donbass men, Russians from Russia with you. We see your feat, you are heroes !!! you have already broken the ridges with this pi .... am, God is the truth with you !!!! whoever writes, don’t believe in Russia all for you!
      7. Dmitry Toderes
        Dmitry Toderes 5 May 2014 00: 26
        0
        Some cities are marked with victory ribbons (St. George ribbons), some without - what does it mean?
      8. Buratinych
        Buratinych 5 May 2014 05: 55
        0
        URGENTLY ALL. Kramatorsk city. OPERATIONS ARE EXECUTIVE. A lot of
        they bring more wounded already than in Odessa. Ask for help with medicines
        The city was surrounded by pravoseki and fascists. Gorlovka. Hospital surgeon asks for
        help! +380 507 643 593 Personal telephone number (Michael) Red Cross
        refused to help! Need dressing, antibiotics, lidocaine, syringes
        any. Who has the opportunity to help, please help! Who has
        opportunity - throw on other pages
    2. Validator
      Validator 4 May 2014 07: 09
      +17
      It is necessary to take frontier posts and introduce volunteer specialists with a sufficient number of RPGs.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 4 May 2014 11: 41
        +2
        Quote: Validator
        It is necessary to take frontier posts and introduce volunteer specialists with a sufficient number of RPGs.

        what border posts, when there is no such border, border guards (what we have, in Ukraine) sit only at customs points and go to the calls of local residents to cross the illegal border, there were no patrols at the border with the Russian Federation.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 07: 53
      +9
      The assault of the military registration and enlistment office in Lugansk
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 4 May 2014 09: 41
        +18
        Here is a photo from the city of Odessa Hero !!!!

        they show how pravoseki Bandera punishers shoot unarmed people from AK .....
        and filthy cops stand and don’t do anything, having put on full pants ...
        and these mutants calmly kill and burn peaceful Odesaites alive ....
        .

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        2. boozer
          boozer 4 May 2014 10: 14
          .
          Oh ho ... So in the photo representatives of federalism ....
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 4 May 2014 10: 40
            +15
            Quote: boozer
            . So in the photo representatives of federalism ....

            these are provocateurs from the pr ... sector ...

            putting on, for zhurnalyug .... GEORGIAN TAPES, ... what would later be, to report that they fought against armed militias !!!!!
          2. shuhartred
            shuhartred 4 May 2014 11: 48
            +12
            Quote: boozer
            Oh ho ... So in the photo representatives of federalism ....

            And the cops calmly look at how they fire from military weapons? Do you believe yourself? In Ukraine now "everything" is only possible for the Pravosek and other Nazis. Turn on the brain sometimes.
          3. maxxdesign
            maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 19
            +5
            federalism? with a swastika on the sleeves? eyes then !!!!
            1. boozer
              boozer 4 May 2014 20: 46
              +2
              I agree that these are provocateurs. But I can’t imagine, anyone with a weapon, even Darth Vader with a blaster, but the police must detain or shoot when trying to escape or resist!
          4. 2log
            2log 5 May 2014 05: 35
            0
            Here are the testimonies of how the right-wing workers killed in Odessa at the House of Trade Unions, including disguising themselves as their opponents http://frallik.livejournal.com/781599.html
            http://cuamckuykot.livejournal.com/420133.html

            disguised pravoseki under the House of Trade Unions (did not have time to remove the bandages):
          5. 2log
            2log 5 May 2014 06: 49
            0
            Here is an operational investigation by the TV crew. The fake "separatists" are distinguished from the real ones by the red duct tape along with the St. George's ribbon. The junta also has the same tape, but without the tapes and for individual militia units.
      2. Chikua
        Chikua 4 May 2014 09: 51
        +13
        To all who care!
    4. Ross
      Ross 4 May 2014 11: 10
      +5
      Communique of the Headquarters of the militia from 02 - 03.05.2014 of the year.

      The attack on civilians and militias began on May 2 at 4.30 in the morning with an attack on several roadblocks and a television center in Karachun, the dominant height above the city. During the offensive, the enemy used over 20 helicopters and up to 100 units of various armored vehicles. The militia forces shot down two enemy Mi-24 helicopters and inflicted significant damage to two more Mi-8 helicopters. A pilot of one of the downed helicopters, who was seriously injured, was captured and taken to the city hospital, where he was given emergency medical care.

      During the morning battle for the height of Karachun, the militia units put up fierce resistance to the enemy, advancing with the support of the 8 BTR, inflicted heavy casualties on him and retreated to the city. Enemy losses are estimated to 10 killed and wounded. In the militia unit, defending the tower, there are no losses. Moving further, the enemy occupied the railway station and the surrounding area, then stopped the advance, and in the evening brought the armored vehicles out of the city.

      During the shootings on the northern outskirts of the city (in the direction of Feed Mills), the militia managed to incapacitate several militants of an unidentified enemy unit. In the area of ​​the BZS checkpoint on the Kharkiv-Rostov highway (northeastern direction), the enemy advancing from the city of Izyum using the overwhelming advantage in numbers and armaments, after a fierce battle, the checkpoint and the territory of the Slavic Resort were taken. The militiamen who defended the checkpoint retreated to the city center without loss.

      In the afternoon in the area n. Andreevka (on the southern outskirts of Slavyansk near Karachun Mountain) civilians tried to block a convoy of armored vehicles with the Ukrainian military, mercenaries and militants of the Right Sector. As a result, brutally pushing the living cordon of people and passing on one civilian, the convoy continued to move. A repeated attempt to block it led to the fact that the soldiers and soldiers of the so-called. National Guard under opened on unarmed people to kill. According to preliminary data, about 10 civilians died, before 40 people were injured.

      In the area of ​​the fire station No. 38, located in the Artyom microdistrict, an attempt was made to penetrate into the city center militants of the "National Guard" on 2 buses with the support of 1 armored personnel carriers. The enemy was fired from small arms and suffered losses. There are no victims from the militia.

      A sniper duel killed the commander of the Slavyansk people's militia unit, Sergei Zhurikov, born 1980, native of Sevastopol, resident of Kiev, parachutist-athlete who made jumps over 1500 and professional photographer, who served as a ponomare of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra before the coup .

      Completely in the video and here http://rusvesna.su/news/1399158434
      1. svp67
        svp67 4 May 2014 12: 21
        +3
        And no one did not pay attention to the machine gun Maxim standing at the barricade in the background, at the beginning of the conference ....
        1. maxxdesign
          maxxdesign 4 May 2014 14: 21
          +4
          this machine gun still sets the heat of the Natsiks, and most likely he already did it in 1941-1945!
          1. Net
            Net 4 May 2014 14: 35
            +5
            Dill this photo will be signed as a detachment of the FSB
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        2. Walking
          Walking 4 May 2014 14: 35
          +5
          Apparently, the active part of the population is trying to fight with nationalists from the right sector and the army, but there are only a few of them in the whole Southeast, the rest and probably 80-90 percent of them are sitting at home and waiting for it to end. It seems to this inert mass of the population no matter what happens next and somehow their fate does not cause sympathy.
          It’s a pity only those fighters who resist all this Nazi gang.
    5. Ross
      Ross 4 May 2014 14: 59
      +3
      Shooters: front-line report as of 14-00
      Shooters: front-line report as of 14-00 | Russian spring

      “Everything is calm in Konstantinovka - in the morning, militiamen from the“ Krot ”detachment attacked the National Guard and she hastily fled from the village. For our part, one is seriously wounded (a bullet in the back will penetrate), but life is in danger. Losses of the enemy are still unknown. Unfortunately, all the APCs were gone - one RPG grenade ricocheted off the armor, the second missed ...

      In Kramatorsk, too, everything is calm. The enemy focused on the airfield and does not show his nose from there.

      In Slavyansk is similar. The night passed almost without firing. In a skirmish inside the city, two armed saboteurs, the “right-hander”, were destroyed. For our part, without loss. In the morning we clean the outskirts, again occupied the railway station - the enemy remains only in a few points - to the city of Karachun, which is reinforced like the Germans Sapun-Gora at the BZS checkpoint on the Kharkov-Rostov highway, at the block in the village . East and in the villages "Feed" and "Fish farm". But all these points are already outside the actual city limits.

      The town of Krasny Liman is also firmly held by the local militia unit and Cossack volunteers (squad "Eremy"). In fact, at the moment, the enemy’s offensive operation has completely failed. They failed to occupy any of the large settlements. ”
  2. domokl
    domokl 4 May 2014 06: 37
    +14
    Well ... Well, get up a huge country, get up to a mortal battle ... Otherwise, death ... Only the whole world can beat the hydra of fascism ... it strikes another. How now the soldiers will look in the eyes of their mothers ...
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 4 May 2014 07: 15
      +5
      Terrible force on land and at sea
      We meet uninvited guests
      And a fascist bloodthirsty pack
      Do not collect your bones forever.
    2. delfinN
      delfinN 4 May 2014 07: 29
      +20
      Change German to Bandera, the essence is the same
      1. Zaslavsky-S
        Zaslavsky-S 4 May 2014 12: 43
        +4
        Monolith!! Very much!
        1. Zaslavsky-S
          Zaslavsky-S 4 May 2014 13: 03
          0
          Minus set a traitor!
      2. RADIK
        RADIK 4 May 2014 17: 43
        +2
        Here it is the truth of life. Strong and relevant.
      3. RADIK
        RADIK 4 May 2014 17: 43
        0
        Here it is the truth of life. Strong and relevant.
  3. svp67
    svp67 4 May 2014 06: 42
    +11
    All military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, arriving in the Donbass, for the providence of the ATO are CRIMINALS. They are sent there after a survey, in one of which there is such a question:
    "You consider yourself ready to use weapons against the civilian population, which by its illegal actions prevents you from fulfilling your task and are trying to take possession of weapons" ...

    "How do you assess the level of readiness to act suddenly with the use of weapons after receiving the command" to fight! "(In conditions when the separatists hide behind women that support them)

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/18302-boycov-ukroarmii-gotovyat-k-karatelnym-operaciy

    am-pri-pomoschi-psihologicheskih-testov.html
    Politikus.ru "

    It seems that the "velikoukry" did not even hear about the "Geneva Convention" ... Shame.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 4 May 2014 09: 50
      +3
      what conventions, they probably read with difficulty ... it’s rabid dogs, they only need to be shot off !!!!
      and not what captivity !!
      !!
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 4 May 2014 10: 09
        +11
        LIES AND CINISM pr..sekov - these animals ...
        his name is Nicholas and that he is one of the field commanders of the pr.sekov ..
        1. Anper
          Anper 4 May 2014 12: 04
          +4
          Quote: cosmos111
          LIES AND CINISM

          As for the work on camera, they were trained even before the Maidan by our overseas friends. There are still shots where they covered a corpse on the street with the Ukrainian flag and put a cross on it - provided that none of the ultras and law enforcement officers were injured during the entire collision. there is still a shot where this hero - the commander is shooting a pistol. AND I CAN'T FIND ANY VIDEO OR PHOTOS - EVERYTHING FIRED.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 4 May 2014 12: 11
            +14
            Quote: Anper
            And there’s also a shot where this hero - the commander is shooting a pistol. I CAN'T FIND ANY VIDEO OR PHOTOS - EVERYTHING FIRED.

            In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"


            In Gorlovka captured accomplice Yarosh Vasily Budik, one of the founders of the punitive battalion "Donbass"



            On the phone with Vasily Budik, supporters of federalization found his correspondence with the acting Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, in which Budik reports that in the near future he is ready to assemble a battalion of 600-800 people. According to the militias, Budik is a citizen of Georgia.
            Russian Spring
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 4 May 2014 12: 22
              +5
              Send to Russia urgently !!! Here it will be livelier, and it will be very useful for info war with "Westerners".
              And you have it quickly grounded. And ends in the water ...
              1. Penzyac
                Penzyac 5 May 2014 01: 15
                0
                Quote: Ptah
                Send to Russia urgently !!! Here it will be livelier, and it will be very useful for info war with "Westerners".
                And you have it quickly grounded. And ends in the water ...

                No, well, you can still hang this Budik in the central square for edification.
        2. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey 4 May 2014 12: 18
          +4
          This reporting person personally shot, and now he is stinging, scum.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2014 13: 49
      +14
      Quote: svp67
      It seems that the "velikoukry" did not even hear about the "Geneva Convention" ... Shame.


      But others have heard !!! And not only about the convention. THE TRUTH REACHES THE PEOPLES OF EUROPE !!! ANTHEM OF THE USSR - IN GERMANY !!!



      Merkel will come back with comrades support maydanutyh !!!
      1. Anatolich
        Anatolich 4 May 2014 16: 07
        +3
        I'm in shock, and is it in Germany? Oh, and when it happened?
        1. Simple
          Simple 4 May 2014 22: 29
          +2
          Quote: Anatolich
          I'm in shock, and is it in Germany? Oh, and when it happened?



          Germany against, Germany Russians - Russian Berlin May 1, 2014 in Berlin "Revolutionary May 1 demonstration. Berlin 1. Mai Russians in Germany. May 1 in Berlin 2014. May Day procession in Berlin.
          In the German capital, more than 10 thousand Germans took to the streets.
          Revolutionäre 1. Mai Demonstration in Berlin 2014
          1 May demonstration in Berlin.

          P.S. Organized every year.
    3. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 May 2014 17: 47
      -1
      The questionnaire example is inappropriate. It is about the same in any country. By the way, if you are liable for military service: "Do you consider yourself ready to use weapons against the civilian population, which by their illegal actions prevents you from fulfilling the assigned task and are trying to take possession of the weapon?"
      --
      It seems that the "velikoukry" did not even hear about the "Geneva Convention" ... Shame.
      --
      Sorry, did you serve in the army?
  4. Denis
    Denis 4 May 2014 06: 42
    +26
    Mentally we are with them, it’s a pity that only mentally
    Politics, her mother ... so
    I would like to wish them good luck and that for all enemies:
  5. Ilotan
    Ilotan 4 May 2014 06: 43
    +10
    The latest news from news agencies: in Kiev today, a national veche is planned. Attempts are being made to seize state buildings. It is time to strike in the heart of the junta while the main forces of the militants are deployed in the east.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2014 08: 11
      +6
      Quote: Ilotan
      in Kiev today is planned to hold a popular veche. Attempts to seize state buildings are expected.

      Well, military exercises were carried out at night on tanks .... a military coup is possible! But who said it would be better? If they completely take power into the hands of the right-wingers?
      1. yur
        yur 4 May 2014 12: 04
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        a military coup is possible! But who said it would be better? If they completely take power into the hands of the right-wingers?
        Dear Elena, no matter how scary it sounds, it will be better. Fascists are killing peaceful people anyway, but in the eyes of the "world community" (so that they can choke on their own poison!), The power in Kiev is legitimate. After the coup, they will lose this trump card. Yes, and Russia will have a free hand. For these reasons, I doubt that the Pravosek coup will really take place. True, if the bandits have at least some brains.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 4 May 2014 12: 19
          +12
          Quote: yur
          And Russia’s hands will be untied.

          Attention! A provocation is being prepared on the Crimean border to cover up the actions of the punitive in the Southeast!

          Since the punitive operation in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk not only stalls, but also attracts a lot of attention from people around the world, the Americans planned a provocation on the Crimean border in order to “clog the ether” and distract the public from what is happening in the Southeast.
          Details of the upcoming provocation - in the post below. Distribute information on social networks!
          In order to divert attention from the punitive operation in the South-East, the US Embassy in Kiev launched an information operation on the action of Dzhemilev to break through the state border of the Russian Federation from Ukraine.
          Within its framework several hundred activists of the "Mejlis" currently preparing a breakthrough of the state border of the Russian Federation in the district of Armyansk, and provide Dzhemilev and the accompanying chairman of the "Mejlis" Chubarov with a human shield. More than a dozen groups of Ukrainian and Western television channels are called upon to cover the action.
          The calculation is simple - to take airtime with a pre-planned action, ignoring the continuation of the punitive operation in the Southeast. In addition, there is information that in the composition of the human shield there are armed militants who are ready to carry out a provocation with firing under television cameras.
          And then once again Russia will be blamed for everything.
          Source.
          xxxxxxxxxx
          From Feodosia they also inform me that the Tatars "sheburshat". So far, little by little, and they are quickly "calmed". But you need to be very careful. Dzhemilev is now a member of Tymoshenko's party!
          PS, So who else believes that Comrade Was Stalin wrong when they deported them?
          1. delfinN
            delfinN 4 May 2014 13: 25
            +8
            In Crimea, preparing for the parade
            1. Valter1364
              Valter1364 4 May 2014 13: 44
              +4
              Immediately I remembered my childhood from the 70s, when my family and my family traveled to Crimea from Novoross on a "kopeck", and about a hundred military aircraft flew in the sky above us for several hours in a row. See the Tatars in the sky and live peacefully with the Russians.
          2. Zeus
            Zeus 4 May 2014 16: 10
            +7
            Already been. Or is it still preparing?
  6. mig31
    mig31 4 May 2014 06: 47
    +14
    A pack of hell and jackals, led by the State Department and connivance of the geyropa, is trying to destroy everything Slavic, Russian, Orthodox. RISE RUSSIA !!!
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 May 2014 17: 52
      -5
      Are you a stupid person? Then GO, tomorrow to school.
  7. gas113
    gas113 4 May 2014 06: 55
    +7
    All right. Now all is fair against the junta's National Guardsmen. Do not take prisoner, burn, blow up, wet. Beasts and bestial death. It is not possible to watch the news without a shudder. "Soldiers of the" Center "group are walking across Ukraine V. Vysotsky.
  8. 2log
    2log 4 May 2014 06: 58
    +21
    "The Nazis must not be touched, we will be condemned." This is from the same strange logic as "Thank you Obama that he will impose sanctions on us and we can develop our industry." And who hindered development earlier? It is not our own fault, it is more profitable for the oligarchs to sell Russia as raw material, and not to develop it, and we allow them to do this. We condemn the Ukrainians who are not rebelling against the junta, but we ourselves steal before the oligarchs.
    So, is Obama the main reason for the decline, or the oligarchs and their government, fools and roads?
    You can not touch the Nazis? Isn't that what Yanukovych was told when he could slam all this pack?
    And who raised this pack? Isn’t Yanukovych? Now this beast is hiding with his best friend. The raven will not peck out the crow.
    Do you hear a lot of swearing from the West for the Crimea? They wiped themselves and took note. They understand, after all, that their screech is only a psychic attack, preventing us from taking the situation into our own hands.
    Take Kiev, we will hang all the fascist trash on their braids and no one will say a word to us again. And who would dare if, having reunited with Ukraine, we become almost equal to the USSR ?!
    We must put pressure on Putin. It’s not necessary to watch how our brothers and sisters are burned alive, but to bring peace to these lands again suffering by the will of the West, this is our duty to our elder brother.
    1. Fox
      Fox 4 May 2014 09: 21
      +10
      Quote: 2Log
      We must put pressure on Putin

      I corresponded with the Ukrainians ... everything is fine with them in Kiev. They work, beer in the evenings ... and you helped the whole gamerope, what did you say thank you?! Crimea is for Russia, but here "everything is not so unambiguous." local fighters? why are they only doing that the newcomers are helping? no, let them themselves for now ... as they grow to the Crimea, we will help there.
      1. 2log
        2log 4 May 2014 09: 59
        +9
        Quote: Fox
        as they grow to the Crimea, there we will help

        Southeast Crimea has long outgrown!
        Personally, you definitely do not multiply in any case.
        Interesting; would you have a brother and his fascist under your door tortured, would you justify your inaction by the fact that he is not defending himself? So he will begin to defeat the fascist, then you will crawl out the door and defeat the adversary with a victorious kick?
        I don’t even know what’s worse, duped Ukrainians or people like you are indifferent insignificance.
        1. 2log
          2log 4 May 2014 10: 18
          +23
          Southeast has not reached the Crimea? Well, yes, he does not have the opportunity to laugh and take pictures with green men. You just lose sight of it, so that Crimea could hold a referendum, it took 25 men, which the South-East does not have.
          1. yur
            yur 4 May 2014 12: 32
            +22
            Quote: 2Log
            You just lose sight of it, so that Crimea could hold a referendum, it took 25 men, which the South-East does not have.
            I’m the seventh, eyesight problems, BUT I swear, as soon as you take 6 people (300% !!!) from the 000 millionth Donnbas to the streets (not to the barricades!), I’ll come to help you (at least cook food and drag tires). Do not sleep!
          2. Tihas
            Tihas 4 May 2014 12: 51
            +15
            1. Are there 25000 volunteers in the Southeast who are willing to take up arms and protect themselves and their families?
            2. Are there 25000 police officers in the Southeast who are ready to defend their cities?
            3. Are there 25000 servicemen in military units in the South-East who are ready to fight the "national guard"?
            And why should our guys die for viewers?
            1. 2log
              2log 4 May 2014 13: 04
              0
              Quote: Tihas
              Are there 25000 volunteers in the Southeast who are willing to take up arms and protect themselves and their families?

              There are not only in the Southeast.
              I myself am ready to go to defend them, although not from Ukraine.
              But it’s one thing to self-organize xs with whom xs like, against an army armed with modern technology, and quite another to organize with the help of their state.
              Quote: 2Log
              And why should our guys die for viewers?

              Personally, no one is calling you, what for you are needed there?
              1. Tihas
                Tihas 4 May 2014 14: 09
                +3
                Obviously you are now writing with one hand, with the other squeezing the machine. You are now moving on the armor in the direction of Slavyansk or Kramatorsk to help the self-defense forces. I guessed?
                1. 2log
                  2log 4 May 2014 18: 31
                  +7
                  I would perhaps understand this sarcasm from a person already sitting at the barricade with a gun. But to hear this from someone who not only does not go, but also makes fun of others, is at least strange, although it is understandable if the youngster writes.
        2. shevart89
          shevart89 4 May 2014 11: 18
          +4
          Quote: 2Log
          Interesting; would you have a brother and his fascist under your door tortured, would you justify your inaction by the fact that he is not defending himself? So he will begin to defeat the fascist, then you will crawl out the door and defeat the adversary with a victorious kick?
          I don’t even know what’s worse, duped Ukrainians or people like you are indifferent insignificance.

          You didn’t specify that the brother wasn’t seemingly disabled, but a natural masochist, he doesn’t live badly, if only they wouldn’t drive him out of the couch. It seems that there are reasonable people in the east, but there are few of them there, they would be provided with housing and work for us in Russia, that’s why smart people in Russia need them, they know how to think
          1. 2log
            2log 4 May 2014 12: 01
            +7
            Quote: shevart89
            You didn’t specify that the brother wasn’t seemingly disabled, but a natural masochist, he doesn’t live badly, if only they wouldn’t drive him out of the couch.

            Well, yes, we notice a speck in our relatives, but we do not see a log in our own. Today everyone understands that the WTO is not useful for Russia at all, did you get off the couch so that the WTO does not pass? They did not get off and the WTO passed. The Ukrainians, though not a single stupid crowd, flooded to sign an association with the EU. Half of Ukraine opposed, and Russia silently went under onerous conditions for itself. Today people like you say; "Thank you Obama for imposing sanctions, not letting my oligarchs sell raw materials, otherwise I don't have the strength to resist these oligarchs." Those. we are full of insignificance, we dare to teach Ukrainians who have found the strength not to follow the West as an obedient cattle ?! And you have the audacity to teach them life?
            Yes, many of them are frightened, confused, many fooled and not surprising at such a massive processing of consciousness, not all politicians are born, but they are fighting!
            And now, looking at such a swaggering arrogance like yours, should Ukrainians consider us an older brother? What have you done to confirm your seniority? Have you protected your brothers and sisters who are blowing everything in our ears about us? which are burned at our doorstep ?! And do not say that they are sitting on the couch! It’s you sitting on the couch, and they are being harnessed because they got off the couch.
            People like you like to say: power is in truth. Well, let’s take Kiev, tell them the truth, will they really be offended by us, that they did not allow them to become us and their enemies, killing each other in a civil war?
            No! People like you just chew and teach popcorn.
            1. shevart89
              shevart89 4 May 2014 13: 23
              +3
              Quote: 2Log
              we notice mote at relatives, but we don’t see logs at home

              Yes, that is, that is. At the expense of the WTO, it hasn’t touched any of my relatives, but I'm sorry for solving someone’s problems.
              Quote: 2Log
              Ukrainians should consider us as an older brother

              Although I am an older brother in the family, I have never had any questions about which of us is the eldest, we are brothers and that’s it.
              Due to the fact that I said something about Obama or I eat, this is all your imagination, in reality I study as an engineer (aircraft industry), I participate in the Olympiad in my specialty (2nd place in the team competition 2013 Kazan) something like this
              1. 2log
                2log 4 May 2014 13: 42
                +3
                Quote: shevart89
                Although I am an older brother in the family, I have never had any questions about which of us is the eldest, we are brothers and that’s it.

                And what do you expect when your brother’s offender gives you permission to protect him or immediately to the offender in the mouth?
                I am also a senior. If a brother used to raise his voice at his mother, he would bring him to mind with a crack without waiting for any special conditions.
                In order to be a brother, you do not need a solution, you need to be a brother and that’s all.
                1. shevart89
                  shevart89 4 May 2014 14: 33
                  +2
                  It seems that Arsenyev had a scene in one of the books: a child sits, eats, another comes, takes dinner, goes to his mother, and what did she do? correctly slap him for it. When asked why you hit him, because he had his lunch taken, she replied that if he couldn’t protect his lunch now, what would he do tomorrow, when he was left alone with the taiga.
          2. montemor
            montemor 4 May 2014 13: 06
            +2
            there are rational people all over Ukraine, alas, there are very, very few of them, most of them are stupid and simply do not understand where they are pushing them, even worse, they don’t want to understand, and they just don’t want to think, alas, but this is so
            1. Kamarada
              Kamarada 4 May 2014 16: 13
              0
              fooled? nahai see
        3. Elle-elle
          Elle-elle 4 May 2014 11: 49
          +7
          Spavnivaya SE with the Crimea, answer yourself: how many leaders were arrested in the Crimea? how many people were missing? how many civilians did the visiting pravoseks kill? So yes, I have outgrown it, and it is without a doubt!
          1. xan
            xan 4 May 2014 13: 57
            +9
            Quote: Elle-elle
            Spavnivaya SE with the Crimea, answer yourself: how many leaders were arrested in the Crimea? how many people were missing? how many civilians did the visiting pravoseks kill? So yes, I have outgrown it, and it is without a doubt!

            Regarding "SE has outgrown Crimea". I would like to remind you of how the events in Crimea began. Sevastopol rebelled immediately, as soon as power in Kiev was seized by the juntari, SE still did not scratch, immediately changed the administration and elected Chaly, immediately dealt with the police and the SBU. People in the DPR still chew snot. I am 100% sure, if it were not for the green men, in Crimea there would be a slaughterhouse cleaner than Slavyansk, and most likely they would have driven out the Svidomo and held a referendum, but more blood would have been shed.
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 4 May 2014 11: 29
        +3
        Quote: Fox
        no, let it be for now ... as they grow to the Crimea, there we will help.

        And what personally DOES YOU DIRECT TODAY to help? Than wait for something and hope for someone ...
        I do not mean that you go and shoot five or so banderlogs ...
        And I'm not even saying that you "should" buy and send a shot for an RPG or a handful of cartridges for a Kalash.
        I am sure you are a smart person, and, if you wanted, you would have found the opportunity to help.
        I will not specifically indicate what you will do. Regardless of material well-being.
        And to write patriotic posts on forums, even if in large numbers, alas ...., but not enough. hi
      3. Elle-elle
        Elle-elle 4 May 2014 11: 46
        +23
        It is difficult to remain silent in response! Imagine the situation: there are no Black Sea Fleet troops in Crimea, and there are no little green men. How would events develop? 1) Crimea went to rallies and protested 2) Arrest of Aksenov, Chalov and the absolute majority of the leaders of the uprising instead of their regular flights to Moscow. 3) the arrival of the "friendship train" (forgotten ???) and the massive suppression of protests 4) the active protests of the Tatars for a united Ukraine against the background of the suppression of the pro-Russian. And now, honestly, the same thing is now observed in the SE. In Kharkov, which is now "pelted with eggs" for silence - in early March there were huge rallies - Crimea never dreamed of, I will not speak about Donbass. If people were given a sign like Crimea, EVERYONE would go out into the street. And they also waved Russian flags and shouted "Russia". But no result happened. And now no one waves tricolors. And they stopped calling Yanukovych. It’s hard for people. They did not understand why they were not worthy of the same help as the Crimeans. They are trying to figure out how to survive against the government and the army, not counting on anyone else's help. They are losing their loved ones; we are losing. So please don't compare. There is no need for cynicism and double standards, brothers-Russians.
      4. Umnichka
        Umnichka 4 May 2014 18: 08
        +5
        Comrade doesn’t understand a damn thing. The war is not against Ukraine - the war is against Russia. Let’s clean Ukraine from pravosekov, etc. - save ourselves. If they have a hut on the edge, now quickly this can not be redone. Fair textbooks for their children, everything is gradually ...
        1. 2log
          2log 4 May 2014 18: 33
          +1
          Think correctly.
        2. 2log
          2log 5 May 2014 06: 23
          0
          This will happen throughout Ukraine if we listen to the liberals and do not help our own people. And then it goes to us.

          There is information that 160 corpses were still found in the basement of the House of Trade Unions. Just corpses in the basement. Killed by a gunshot and hacked with axes! In many photographs that are on the network with charred corpses, it is seen that only the heads and hands were burnt. Whole clothes. People were poured with a combustible mixture and it was not the victims of a fire that burned, many had firearms in their heads.
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  9. Barakuda
    Barakuda 4 May 2014 06: 59
    +38
    Quote: mig31
    A pack of hells and jackals led by the State Department and connivance of the geyropa, trying to destroy everything

    Without the support of Russia, physical and material, and not just in words, over time we will be crushed, if not regrettably.
    I do not whine, but ask-Russia-Homeland, where are you ???
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 May 2014 07: 01
      +8
      Quote: Barracuda
      and not in words, over time we will be crushed, sadly.
      Do not hold out much - hear and see ... Not so simple.
    2. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 4 May 2014 07: 28
      +7
      There will be help, I think the GDP has already been prepared by the plan (for a long time it wasn’t with statements on TV, it means the plan is making up) It’s not so easy to make such a decision, the whole world map can change from this. Hang on guys, there will be help!
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    4. cosmos111
      cosmos111 4 May 2014 10: 48
      +11
      Quote: Barracuda
      I do not whine, but ask-Russia-Homeland, where are you ???

      and x ... knows him .......
      IF NOT SUPPORTED, RIGHT NOW PATRIOTS IN KRAMATORSK, MARIUPOL, SLAVIC (how ???? this is a matter of technology, it is possible without the introduction of troops))))

      these BOYS will KILL, and us-Russia, the relatives of these dead patriots, just CURSE .....
    5. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 4 May 2014 11: 00
      +13
      Perhaps all because of the May 25 elections to the European Parliament ...
      We’ll not introduce troops, opponents of close friendship with the United States will obviously defeat
      we introduce winners of gay friendship with the United States.
      Guys over 20 years, we had 3 wars, all 20 years we have had a terrorist attack. In the Caucasus and now at least 10 per month shoot at shaitans.
      Anyone at the place of GDP will have a sore heart, while the death toll is very roughly about 100, remember the terrorist attack in Volgograd, etc.
      Remember, until the people are brutalized by fascism, the risk is very high for the troops who enter to receive a bayonet in their hearts from zombie dill ...
      I’m just saying that Putin must take into account all the factors. hi
      1. 2log
        2log 4 May 2014 12: 15
        +6
        You are exactly following in the footsteps of Yanukovych. Tolerance and passivity led to the fact that a handful of Nazis are now dictating to the whole of Ukraine. Our tolerance will result in the whole of Ukraine becoming a Nazi. All the healthy population there will be killed, intimidated, fooled. And they will come upon us as their enemies, fooled by propaganda, instigated by the United States. Do you really think that the States will stop?
        Where is Yanukovych now?
  10. Tatarus
    Tatarus 4 May 2014 07: 05
    +24
    On the picture. Uncle that in a beret in pursuit of the belt "Alive to help" with the text from the 90th psalm. God help brothers. Psalm 90, read by Orthodox Christians during a disaster and when enemies attack.

    And by the way, Vladimir Vladimirovich, do not disappoint us please. And then ... it comes around in the elections then.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 4 May 2014 07: 56
      +5
      Quote: Tatarus
      The uncle in a beret in pursuit of a belt

      But really. At first I thought what kind of braid ...
      "+" for your attentiveness! good
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 4 May 2014 08: 09
        +10
        What not to see with my eyes.
        Only the soul can see.
        I say God is with us for sure.
        And that means Satan with them.
    2. Dejavu
      Dejavu 4 May 2014 07: 58
      +3
      I think about elections. Now, GDP is the last thing I think. So many enemies still need to be put. He thinks where they will bury them all.
  11. gych
    gych 4 May 2014 07: 06
    +11
    Yes, please call these hyenas militiamen! Among them there are no cops, this is the team’s probe
    1. General Frost
      General Frost 4 May 2014 08: 31
      +3
      Everything is just just nonhumans, fascists, punishers (for those who doubt the censor, look). I think that events in Odessa have removed pink glasses from many in the world.
      1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
        Mihaylo Tishayshiy 4 May 2014 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: General Frost
        .I think that events in Odessa have removed pink glasses from many in the world.

        Do not flatter yourself, not removed. Go to "Political Review" in the right column on the main page, the article "Massacre in Odessa: What Western Media Readers Have Learned About It". Rather, rose-colored glasses will fall from you in relation to the "world community"
  12. Tatarus
    Tatarus 4 May 2014 07: 08
    +5
    Quote: gych
    Yes, please call these hyenas law enforcement! Among them there are no cops


    Right. Now the meaning of the term "GARBAGE" is precisely clear. It's about these pi-races
  13. Barakuda
    Barakuda 4 May 2014 07: 22
    +12
    So I thought ..-
    If the billionaire Kolomoisky appointed 100 million dollars. for the physical elimination of GDP, then why should not some Russian oligarch appoint the same bonus for the head of Railways Kolomoisky? I think his guard would strangle him right away ... And in the Donbass it will immediately become much calmer.
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 4 May 2014 07: 33
      +9
      One comrade from Kazakhstan appointed a kind of joke. But the people stretched out. And not five kopecks in this bonus.
    2. Whale
      Whale 4 May 2014 07: 39
      +6
      I think, if necessary, our special services will do it absolutely for free.
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    4. Ptah
      Ptah 4 May 2014 08: 01
      +7
      Quote: Barracuda
      why shouldn't some Russian oligarch nominate the same prize for the head of railroad Kolomoisky?

      Because this one and "ours" have repeatedly met at all kinds of economic forums. Weaved into a tight knot of commercial interests. IMHO.
      Yes, and "ONE BERRY FIELD" they ...
      And for a Christian, it’s even to think pay someone's death - already a grave sin ...
    5. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 4 May 2014 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: Barracuda
      If the billionaire Kolomoisky appointed 100 million dollars. for the physical elimination of GDP

      Is this not an organization of murder and the threat of physical violence ??? So steal it and put it on for thirty years, but it’s better to go quietly.
      Quote: Barracuda
      why shouldn't some Russian oligarch nominate the same prize for the head of railroad Kolomoisky?
      the raven will not peck out the crow.
  14. il2.chewie
    il2.chewie 4 May 2014 07: 32
    +4
    This is definitely the end of "Ukraine". Something will go to Russia, the rest will be taken away by NATO. But Ukraine, the way it was, will no longer be, and that's good.
    1. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 4 May 2014 07: 50
      +5
      Yes, Ukraine as a state will not be exactly, the historically unjustified formation of the leaders of the USSR, and now the people are dissolving. Amerikosy tamahawk in their ass - profit.
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 4 May 2014 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: il2.chewie
      Something will go to Russia, the rest will be carried away by NATO.
      But Ukraine, such as it was no longer, will be good.

      Doubtful. Even if at least one city moves to the zapadla, soon another NATO military base will appear there. Close to the Russian border from this direction. And this is no longer "karasho" ...
  15. urii
    urii 4 May 2014 07: 38
    +7
    something like this, Tymoshenko with klitschko pushed himself in Odessa to do PR. to visit the wounded in the hospital. before that, she thanked the Nazis. they burned them and they all looked calmly. would tear them off. to Ukraine Russia. Extreme then you will.
  16. ALEX74
    ALEX74 4 May 2014 07: 39
    +6
    Banderlogs celebrate at the stadium! One launch from Tochka-U or Iskander has been cured with a haemorrhage! They will sweat bloody scraps to collect!
  17. zavesa01
    zavesa01 4 May 2014 07: 41
    +15
    How many people are the population of Donbas and how many are on the barricades? Out of 100 people, only 1 are ready to fight. The rest are waiting for "it will cost". And help Russia. If Pridnestrovie wanted independence and freedom, they fought everything.
  18. Sib. Uralets
    Sib. Uralets 4 May 2014 08: 00
    +6
    Need volunteers. And you need an address where you can sign up. And of course you need weapons, the best. In urban battles, especially helicopters and planes will not help. Need point hits. Natural sabotage war. Not to sit in houses, but to make real partisan sorties. Wet them in tijara.
  19. Marconi41
    Marconi41 4 May 2014 08: 13
    +3
    But really, the GDP is silent and from this, I think, the whole Western world has itchy hemorrhoids. Last time, after such silence, Crimea became part of Russia. I hope this time he is silent for a reason. Good luck, brothers! There will be an order - we will help quickly!
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 May 2014 08: 13
    0
    Report from Odessa. http://napaki.livejournal.com/100072.html How do you rate it?
    1. Evrepid
      Evrepid 4 May 2014 09: 30
      +3
      1) "peaceful" football fans
      2) I don’t know how the building caught fire with people
      3) fired on their own in the building
      4) fans defended everyone
      5) no comments

      generally falsification. it's my opinion
  21. 2log
    2log 4 May 2014 08: 16
    0
    Quote: zavesa01
    How many people are the population of Donbas and how many are on the barricades? Out of 100 people, only 1 are ready to fight. The rest are waiting for "it will cost". And help Russia. If Pridnestrovie wanted independence and freedom, they fought everything.

    And you, supposedly a spectator who is not concerned. You're exactly the same as those 99, take the log out of your eye.
    1. yur
      yur 4 May 2014 14: 06
      0
      Quote: 2Log
      And you, supposedly a spectator who is not concerned. You're exactly the same as those 99, take the log out of your eye.
      Listen, 2Log, something you completely shamed us. Do you write from the besieged Slavyansk? Or are you as part of a special group sneaking into Dnepropetrovsk to eliminate Kolomoisky? Or did you at least donate all your savings to help the militias? What did YOU do? So far, of all your posts, only one has said that maybe, under certain circumstances, you (if, probably, the weather doesn’t hurt) will go to the rescue.
      They say rightly: "Chatting is not tossing bags!"
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 4 May 2014 17: 58
        0
        Quote: yur
        Listen, 2Log, something you completely shamed us. Do you write from the besieged Slavyansk? Or are you as part of a special group sneaking into Dnepropetrovsk to eliminate Kolomoisky? Or did you at least donate all your savings to help the militias? What did YOU do? So far, of all your posts, only one has said that maybe, under certain circumstances, you (if, probably, the weather doesn’t hurt) will go to the rescue.
        They say rightly: "Chatting is not tossing bags!"

        I read carefully all his posts - he was a provocateur along the way — and not from Russia and not from Ukraine — but we must definitely fight there -Gapon.
        1. 2log
          2log 4 May 2014 19: 09
          +1
          I am from Novosibirsk. And where are you from?
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 5 May 2014 15: 45
            +1
            They don’t teach politeness in Novosibirsk, do not even look in profile?
            Oh, I probably wrote that it was not from Ukraine and not from Russia, calm down already, the daughter of an officer ...
      2. 2log
        2log 4 May 2014 19: 06
        0
        Quote: yur
        something you are completely ashamed of us.

        Come on?! Whom is this you? Those who follow the liberals why we should not help our own? Can you really be ashamed?
  22. Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 4 May 2014 08: 24
    +1
    Who understands the political situation ??? Because of what, GDP pulls with the introduction of troops to the south-east of Ukraine ???
    1. 2log
      2log 4 May 2014 08: 35
      -7
      Quote: Rainman_1
      Who understands the political situation ??? Why is GDP pulling with the entry of troops to the southeast ???

      In Crimea, the United States threatened to oust the fleet and establish control over a pipe bypassing Ukraine. Therefore, under the slogan of protecting the Russians from the junta, Crimea was quickly provided with stability in voting and the transition under the flag of Russia.
      And in the Southeast, no fleet is worth it. If Crimea were in Donetsk, and Donetsk in Crimea, then everything would be the other way around and would seriously say that the same Crimeans are not 100% ready to go under Russia as Donetsk crossed and we must wait until the Nazis consolidate and the rebellious cities will take control.
    2. sv68
      sv68 4 May 2014 08: 58
      +11
      rainman - there will be no troop deployment, as if we did not want it first of all because of the inertia of you and ukrointsy who do not want to go under the bullets to defend their freedom and who are waiting for the uncle who will come, save them from the adversary and leave home, leaving them a peaceful and quiet state. to the deaf, get up from the couch, quit your job and go fight for your future, or you want your children and grandchildren to grow up slaves cursing you — then sleep on and sleep on your freedom and the state itself.
    3. sv68
      sv68 4 May 2014 08: 58
      0
      rainman - there will be no troop deployment, as if we did not want it first of all because of the inertia of you and ukrointsy who do not want to go under the bullets to defend their freedom and who are waiting for the uncle who will come, save them from the adversary and leave home, leaving them a peaceful and quiet state. to the deaf, get up from the couch, quit your job and go fight for your future, or you want your children and grandchildren to grow up slaves cursing you — then sleep on and sleep on your freedom and the state itself.
  23. aleks700
    aleks700 4 May 2014 08: 28
    +4
    A bit of lyrics. What did Mr. Tsarev say? Task to minimize losses with BOTHparties. What is it about? You need to minimize your losses, and the enemy's losses should be maximized! His position is that of a pregnant woman. Let the pregnant women forgive me. Kharkov does not need such a leader. By the way, most of the "naughty boys" in Odessa were from Kharkov.
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich 4 May 2014 16: 14
      0
      And he should shout to the whole world "let's destroy as much of the enemy as possible"?
  24. shevart89
    shevart89 4 May 2014 08: 30
    +2
    Quote: zavesa01
    How many people are the population of Donbas and how many are on the barricades? Out of 100 people, only 1 are ready to fight. The rest are waiting for "it will cost". And help Russia. If Pridnestrovie wanted independence and freedom, they fought everything.
    I completely agree, although they tried to express their opinion at the beginning of the mess, they decided on actions only after they began to hold onto the Maidan with s / n, pennies however decide
    1. 2log
      2log 4 May 2014 09: 36
      +7
      Quote: shevart89
      totally agree

      Well what are you lying with zavesa01?!
      Ordinary people, even without weapons, stand in the way of the junta’s troops, almost ALL without exception, including women and pensioners. Do you really think that 1/100 would protect the same Kramatorsk, without the huge support of the entire population?
      1. shevart89
        shevart89 4 May 2014 10: 54
        +1
        The video you quoted only assured me of my position. There are 165 inhabitants in Kramatorsk, how many do you see on the video? Can you imagine what would happen if 000-5 thousand inhabitants went to these "little blacks"?
  25. zavesa01
    zavesa01 4 May 2014 08: 32
    +19
    WHO will water them? Look how much really ready to fight. Here already one wrote how they shoot at his car when he goes to work. ON WORK, and not on a notebook, in self-defense. As always, they are expected to be helped, a referendum. What a referendum with a bandit who came to your house to kill and rob. Well, well, talk. In peacetime, hooligans offend him for 15 years, now dibiloid students are boring brutalized by blood. With KEM agrees and about what. Agree not to be killed? Khan Ukraine. Guys real militias bring down from there to the Crimea. You will be betrayed as a golden eagle. And we a couple of thousands of real RUSSIAN will not be superfluous. And work and live where we find. You will not abandon your OWNS. And those who wait let them wait further. Grandmothers who make Molotov cocktails for their grandchildren have already chosen their path for 50 hryvnias.
    1. shevart89
      shevart89 4 May 2014 08: 36
      +3
      Yes, not necessarily in the Crimea, in Russia there are many good places. Hard workers machinists to attach to plants, plowmen in the landowner, etc.
    2. zollstab
      zollstab 4 May 2014 10: 00
      +2
      Very true words, and I also support your thoughts.
  26. mackonya
    mackonya 4 May 2014 08: 40
    +7
    "At the stadium" Dnepr Arena "in Dnepropetrovsk, local football ultras gathered, who burned Odessa. More than 1 people celebrate the victory. Speeches: death to the Vorogi" to her knives, "etc. Preparing a batch for May 000 Victory Day in Dnepropetrovsk." how do you want the Russian military Mi-9 to appear over this stadium, or even better, the Mi-8, which has flown so randomly.
  27. Dmitro_d
    Dmitro_d 4 May 2014 08: 41
    +6
    The war is on our doorstep !!!! Smother a small fire, otherwise it will spread to us !!!
  28. Sturmann
    Sturmann 4 May 2014 08: 41
    +1
    Odessa, Ukraine is strategically needed, it will be held at any cost.
  29. domjoly
    domjoly 4 May 2014 08: 53
    +1
    Two Crimean militia battalions gathering to the southeast http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LN_PA9zfQNE
    1. zavesa01
      zavesa01 4 May 2014 09: 09
      +1
      And after that, Russia will be accused of training separatists. Crimea is Russia, Donbass - Ukraine we are fraternal peoples but legally it is a different state. The only way to prove the genocide of the Russian people and introduce peacekeepers. Under no pretext does he want to accept the United States. Everything else leads to an aggravation of relations (not only economic) with the United States and its colonies (Europe).
      1. bya965
        bya965 4 May 2014 10: 38
        +3
        Quote: zavesa01
        Crimea is Russia, Donbass - Ukraine we are fraternal peoples but legally it is a different state. The only way to prove the genocide of the Russian people and introduce peacekeepers. Under no pretext does he want to accept the United States. Everything else leads to an aggravation of relations (not only economic) with the United States and its colonies (Europe).


        1. States, unlike people, always do what is beneficial to them, and not by agreement.
        2. Part of Donbass was the land of the "Great Don Army", so for me there is a native land.
        3. There is simply no need to spoil relations with India and China, which have "their own separatists." That is why the state "South-East" + "Transnistria" will be in the customs union.
        4. And on the United States, our "put" pomoimu, because it is useless to negotiate with fools, before changing their government.
        5. Among Galicia, I have not had brothers since the 12th century.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 4 May 2014 11: 56
        +3
        Quote: zavesa01
        Everything else leads to an aggravation of relations (not only economic) with the United States and its colonies (Europe).

        it won't be worse than now, and the Europeans are already starting to wonder why they need it, Hollande said something about the sanctions against the Mistrals, so the shipyard owners from South Korea made such a rebuke to him that he immediately shut up, across Germany and Italy the same thing, but let the Young Europeans perform as much as they want (they will crawl off the gas and oil themselves in a month on their knees).
  30. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 09: 10
    +5
    08:39 INTERFAX - According to the latest data, during the military operation in Kramatorsk (Donetsk region), about ten people were killed, the military controls the city, the correspondent of the Russia 24 TV channel reports on Sunday.

    CNN: Kiev's words about “success” in Kramatorsk are far from reality
    Kiev authorities claim that the special operation in Kramatorsk was successful and the city was freed from pro-Russian militias. But a CNN correspondent reports that reality looks very different: Ukrainian security officials left the city without taking control of it and leaving angry residents in their place.
    I am on the outskirts of Kramatorsk. Behind me you see one of the many makeshift barricades. It was installed by the locals and seems to be set on fire, and then removed from the road by the Ukrainian troops moving along this road towards Kramatorsk. We have just been there. Honestly, some terrible calm reigns in the city.

    Burned buses are everywhere in the center. Pro-Russian rebels are still visible in the local administration building. Despite statements by the country's interior minister that the army entered the city and cleaned it of the “terrorists,” as they call pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, there are no signs of the presence of the Ukrainian army. Only the damage left after the collisions that occurred in the last day is visible.

    There are no military personnel in the special services building, which, according to the statement of the Minister of Internal Affairs, was released. And they are not in the TV tower. Yesterday, we saw Ukrainian armored personnel carriers there. But then they left this place due to clashes in a neighboring city.

    The situation is confusing: Kiev is pretending that everything is under control here. But this does not correspond to what we see at the scene. It is also alarming that we learned by talking with doctors from a hospital in Kramatorsk. Only in it one reports of three dead and 15 wounded.

    Kramatorsk is angry. Despite the military operation, it seems that the soldiers just entered the city, took part in the battles and moved on. Discontent still reigns in the city. And to some extent, so to speak, it is rather under the control of pro-Russian rebels and demonstrators, but certainly not under the control of the Kiev authorities.
    Nick Peyton Walsh, CNN, Kramatorsk.

    Material provided by CNN International.
    Translation is RT.

    Air Date: May 03 2014.
    1. Artyom
      Artyom 4 May 2014 11: 36
      +1
      there is a video where the troops of the Kiev authorities proceeded to the airfield, apparently there and concentrated!
  31. sanek0207
    sanek0207 4 May 2014 09: 37
    +7
    RPG-will save, you need more such weapons, there is practically no armored vehicle in the army that can withstand a direct hit. And when they become "horseless" then it is easier to knock them out. only "pravosekov" ultras should not be taken prisoner, this infection must be destroyed! LET GOD HELP YOU !!!!
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 May 2014 12: 05
      +1
      Quote: sanek0207
      RPG - save, you need more of these weapons, practically in the army there is no armored vehicles that can withstand a direct hit.

      Do you know the sighting range of an RPG? Try to get into the same BMD or armored personnel carrier under enemy fire, from an anti-tank rifle, a heavy machine gun (provided that you first hit) or a large-caliber sniper rifle I agree ...
      I agree on the tanks from the ATGM, I agree about the guided landmine, but I agree about primitive mining (and mine clearance under enemy fire is VERY not good for the body), but not about RPGs.
  32. yushch
    yushch 4 May 2014 09: 49
    0
    Some tactics are interesting for the junters, silently and quietly introduce armored vehicles and troops to settlements. The corridor for women and children is not organized, as if being in buildings they cannot suffer. It’s mean and low, it’s a pity it’s impossible to say it better.
  33. Ruslan 56
    Ruslan 56 4 May 2014 09: 53
    +8
    Events in Odessa I think with many in the world took off pink glasses.
    1. boozer
      boozer 4 May 2014 10: 31
      +3
      It is not regrettable that under the pink glasses appeared black! In the world, everyone doesn’t care about the crimes of the junta. Yes, and already turned everything against Russia. They already blame Russia for what happened in Odessa.
  34. zollstab
    zollstab 4 May 2014 09: 55
    +6
    My opinion was based on the video material: there is practically no one to defend the cities, because 10 people are defending, and 10 other healthy men are shooting everything on their mobile phones, while the regular army is attacking. Most of the population in the cities is AUDIENCE.
    1. suvorov12312
      suvorov12312 4 May 2014 11: 07
      0
      I agree ...
    2. Ace in the sleeve
      Ace in the sleeve 4 May 2014 13: 10
      -6
      My opinion was based on the video: there is practically no one to defend the cities, because 10 people are defending, and 10 other healthy men are shooting everything on their mobile phones, while the regular army is attacking. Most of the population in the cities ---


      Against this background, the question is - why did you decide what SEU wants to go to Russia? Because it is beneficial to Russia? From the outside, it all looks like an oligarchic showdown - where normal people do not want to get into. What is it to them if the Ukrainian oligarchs are replaced by Russian ones?

      Even in Crimea, while the main result for the people in the Crimea was the overlap of water from Ukraine, from which all their agriculture will go. Prices have risen, banned them from free movement around the world, business in the Crimea will face restrictions. Well, Crimea, okay, there the people were wound up and the pro-Russian frankly, purely on slogans, it was possible to leave, but under the guise of an army. And it’s safe there, the border - 8 km with Ukraine - to block - just to spit. And geography does not have any partisanism. But SEI is a completely different matter - there such a civil war can happen that little will not seem to anyone. All enterprises will stop, and the locals will sit without a salary and suck their paw, while being afraid to let the children out of the house so that some bandits will not be shot. And after that, you are still surprised that they do not want to fight for some abstract concepts? What do you offer them at all - nothing. Only die, so that everything was as before, but already plow on another uncle. It is enough to compare simply with the situation in any Russian region, so as not to strive to become another such region.
  35. demotivator
    demotivator 4 May 2014 09: 55
    +13
    In Donetsk, capture and arrests of the leaders of the Kiev maydauns began.
    The attack of the Kiev punitive forces on the position of the Donetsk rebels made the fight against the "fifth column" of the Maydauns in the rear especially urgent. Among those already arrested are the leader of Donetsk "Svoboda" Artyom Popik, adviser to the secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Nikolai Yakubovich and a friend of the Fuhrer "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh, the commander of the "Donbass" punitive detachment Vasilmy Budik. The capture of Maydauns continues.
  36. Lyton
    Lyton 4 May 2014 10: 03
    +2
    Maybe ukrovenny believe once passed through the city means it is all cleaned up, the main report.
  37. Dave36
    Dave36 4 May 2014 10: 13
    -1
    Let's see ... as soon as we took the Crimea .. we crossed out Ukraine as a friendly country .. Everything .. it’s an enemy for centuries. Ukrainians hate us ... as they always hated .. Brotherly people say .. where are the crowds of refugees ?? No weapons ?? But what about all the military who sided with the people ??? Yes, there are enough people and weapons depots to reach Kiev .. but no ... Ukrainians don’t want to .. But miners would only have flashlights on ...
    We are so strong..kind..brotherly ... weap, we still grieve with ukram ... we are already grabbing ...
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 4 May 2014 17: 17
      +3
      Quote: Dave36
      Let's see ... as soon as we took the Crimea .. we crossed out Ukraine as a friendly country ..

      DESA.What are you treating? We, the Crimea, didn’t take it, historical justice just happened, and don’t have to pour snot, everything will be hockey. Glory to the Russian world!
  38. bya965
    bya965 4 May 2014 10: 20
    +3
    It’s just some children, if they hadn’t killed and not burned ...

    Just in the Russian Federation and in the Southeast, someone does not want a civil war in Ukraine.

    Militia in the majority of 40-50 years, Afghanistan passed, the snot from the National Guard will not survive a total war. They, like their great-grandfathers, can only haunt the forests, which they have been doing since the 12th century, and terrorize civilians, and then the Ukrainian steppe.

    Likely "evil" Putin will endure until the last "moment of truth." We tolerate.

    http://tsn.ua/bin/player/embed.php/383984000
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 4 May 2014 10: 40
      +3
      We tolerate and hope that we will send money to those who really help in the war against the frostbitten Natsik. And we really hope for our volunteers.

      here you can:
      http://www.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/voina-na-yugo-vostoke-onlain-04-05-201
      4-.html

      Although an air strike would not hurt. There Israel sometimes hammering in Syria under all sorts of pretexts and nothing ....
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 4 May 2014 12: 01
        +1
        I think GDP is trying to reach May 9
        Southeast guys hold on! Wait a little!
        How is it with Malchish Kibolchish - "we should stand for a day, but hold out for a night!"
        1. subbtin.725
          subbtin.725 4 May 2014 17: 19
          +3
          Quote: Artyom
          I think GDP is trying to reach May 9
          Southeast guys hold on! Wait a little!

          I’m supporting, the denouement is close. I don’t think there will be a large-scale invasion of the regular army. Point local contacts, specialists will do everything, and the local will be picked up. In the coming days we will see the seizures of customs and border crossings. Good luck to everyone, God help us, really for us. WHAT IS THE TRUTH OF THE BROTHER? -At the truth! Glory to RUSSIA!
    2. Artyom
      Artyom 4 May 2014 12: 00
      +3
      Listen to one clever Jew, Jacob Kedmi!
      there I think you will find answers to some questions!
  39. Dave36
    Dave36 4 May 2014 10: 25
    +5
    In Russia, only the brave ones want to send troops to Ukraine ... the majority ... more against it ... we feel sorry for our own people to be killed by the Ukrainians ... Putin understands this and does not do it ... and doesn’t introduce it ... otherwise we won’t be able to get out from war ..
    1. tyumen901
      tyumen901 4 May 2014 11: 02
      +1
      He will introduce, and when he introduces, it is not for us to decide.
      In my opinion the move will be a horse. (unexpected for everyone).
      Putin is still that strategist.
  40. fa2998
    fa2998 4 May 2014 10: 33
    +6
    tired of chattering on TV. Russia condemns Russia calls for criticism. concrete actions (economic military) are needed. there are dozens of Russians killed and the reason for landing in Haiti was the THREAT of taking Americans hostage.
    1. Artyom
      Artyom 4 May 2014 12: 32
      +3
      many here do not understand that there must be a powerful argument for an invasion! and prepared soil! What is now being actively done! You will see what they show on the news channels! The situation with the cohabitation of people in Odesa is compared with Khatyn (who is not comfortable, this is a village in Belarus that was completely burned together with residents by punitive units of the auxiliary security police from the collaboration formation formed in Ukraine of the 118th battalion commander in chief. They were commanded by former Polish major Smowski, chief of staff - former senior lieutenant of the Red Army Grigory Vasyura, platoon commander - former lieutenant of the Red Army Vasily Meleshko.)
      God save me from such friends, and I can handle the enemies!
    2. Svyatopolk
      Svyatopolk 6 May 2014 18: 02
      0
      fa2998, do not equal Russia and the United States! What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull, is such an ancient Roman proverb. Americans can do everything at all times, they will always be supported by Western European licking and the rest of the world, which is shaking with fear of the United States. Nobody will support Russia and will spread rot with all possible sanctions into an outcast country. If we were richer and independent of Geyropa, then we could still wrestle. And now it's dumb. Although I am for the introduction of troops and a march to Kiev. This fascist-Bendery power is still legitimized (the United States will help, even if 1% of voters come to the presidential elections and there are no elections in the Southeast). And then these fascists will still suit us ... We’ll have to fight one hell with them, the fascists cannot do otherwise, and the United States will try to overwhelm us. That's it!
  41. Noctis
    Noctis 4 May 2014 10: 56
    +2
    Quote: cosmos111
    LIES AND CINISM pr..sekov - these animals ...
    his name is Nicholas and that he is one of the field commanders of the pr.sekov ..

    Wasn't this fat man in a blue shirt and bronic in the video of the assault and the burning of the City Council shot from the Makar at people in the building ???
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 11: 39
      +3
      Quote: Noctis
      Wasn't this fat man in a blue shirt and bronic in the video of the assault and the burning of the City Council shot from the Makar at people in the building ???

      He is.
  42. repytw
    repytw 4 May 2014 11: 00
    +5
    If Russia does not help the Southeast, then the Russians in Ukraine will turn their backs on it, or they may hate it. The junta will not be able to restore order, and Pravoseki grabbing blood will climb into the territory of the western regions of Russia, we will not be able to close the entire border.
    If in Crimea we hid behind "polite people", then here we need to act even more subtly - to organize, with the help of self-defense, "humanitarian" corridors for help, refugee camps to the borders, sending volunteers, collecting funds to do all this through parties and social movements, so that the state kept aloof. Self-defense fighters to pay wages, and humanitarian aid to family members, this will attract people to the ranks. This is before the referendum, I think with financial support, this can be done in one or two days.
    The state can then recognize the results of the referendum and provide normal assistance. Why the United States can set conditions, but we can’t promise that with a positive result of the referendum, the independent republics will receive an un issued Ukrainian loan ($ 12 billion).
    1. Dejavu
      Dejavu 4 May 2014 11: 25
      +1
      If they reach us, we will finally have every right to shoot them in the face, so, as they say, to Velkam. As for the rest - do not think that if these thoughts came to your mind, they do not come to mind and GDP. Everyone knows there, everyone understands. Vova is a scout, for 5 moves everything is calculated forward. The West plays very clumsy and always according to one scenario, it is not necessary to predict its next moves. Even we ordinary people know what will happen next. But what the Crimean GDP will wring out in two days, even the most vigorous visionaries could not predict. So we are waiting for Vladimir to be like.
  43. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 4 May 2014 11: 14
    +4
    1) The Lugansk and Donetsk Republic must place their border guards at the border or open it totally. This is the most important thing.
    2) It is time to move on to real partisan actions - to smash communications, places of rest, make nightly exhausting attacks at night in small groups.
    3) In small groups of 3-5 people, secretly terrorize routes and roads - disrupt the supply of all forces.
    This is a war, if not sad - nonhumans will only begin to realize this together with zinc coffins going to trains in Lviv. hi
  44. Balamyt
    Balamyt 4 May 2014 11: 21
    +4
    Quote: zollstab
    The majority of the population in cities --- Spectators.

    This is what makes a terrible impression. A sharp contrast with what was observed on the Kiev Maidan. Even by means of television it is not possible to create a picture of universal support! Such a situation is alarming and frightening to me.
    1. Salad
      Salad 4 May 2014 12: 08
      +3
      eheheh, what’s going on sad

  45. ed65b
    ed65b 4 May 2014 11: 26
    +2
    Here infa was that volunteers from the Crimea have already come to the rescue, there was a loud appeal. The question is where are they? creeping their way through or just balabolit much? Excuses like not allowed across the border are not accepted by the sea for 2-3 hours and on the land of Donetsk. Also by sea, you can organize the supply of ammunition, MANPADS, RPGs. Why give heavy Khokhlov equipment? also capture and move on it.
  46. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 4 May 2014 11: 38
    +8
    Unfortunately, there is very little information. But what Kiev is doing, in my purely personal opinion, is incredible stupidity! Using an ax (army) to screw a screw (suppress a popular uprising) is something! There is a chance to chop off your finger. The tactics of self-defense fighters are simple and effective: well, the army came, well, they shot, well, they won, and .... they moved away. And the self-defense fighters are right there! Kiev already lacks the infrastructure that would make it possible to establish further "order". No resources, no internal troops. There are no structures for control and maintenance of internal order. And to use the army as an occupation force, well, there are not so many troops, equipment, resources. The army is already being torn apart. And the zone of the uprising is increasing both quantitatively and qualitatively. The people are going wild, the quality of self-defense fighters is growing, and the number is the same. Everything will go into a sluggish stage. With the gradual departure of Kiev. Only ... I really feel sorry for people. Blessed memory of them.
  47. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 May 2014 11: 41
    +4
    The assault on the house of the governor of the Donetsk region of Taruta. The governor was appointed by the Kiev junta.

    1. Salad
      Salad 4 May 2014 12: 14
      +2
      Yesterday I watched the stream, I really didn’t understand, when they defeated it, the guys carried something in different directions, and the crowd stood and looked ... no one even asked recourse
  48. MTMA
    MTMA 4 May 2014 11: 50
    0
    People really World War 3 on the doorstep?
    1. Artyom
      Artyom 4 May 2014 12: 41
      +1
      neither America nor the West, finger to finger will not hit for the sake of Ukraine! Only words and bile! So comrades calm down!
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 4 May 2014 12: 57
      +3
      Quote: MTMA
      World War 3 on the verge?



      Alas ... YES !!!


    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2014 13: 02
      +2
      Quote: MTMA
      People really World War 3 on the doorstep?

      Yes Hafiz. The black monkey will not calm down.
      1. MTMA
        MTMA 4 May 2014 13: 16
        0
        By the way, did you hear the news that Hilary Clinton wants to run for president? I don’t know if or not.
        1. yur
          yur 4 May 2014 14: 40
          0
          Quote: MTMA
          By the way, did you hear the news that Hilary Clinton wants to run for president? I don’t know if or not.
          And what is the current technology of suspended animation already developed? Where have you slept for so long? After all, your "news" is at least 7 years old. laughing
          1. MTMA
            MTMA 4 May 2014 14: 48
            0
            I didn’t know my word!
  49. Oleg 12
    Oleg 12 4 May 2014 11: 53
    +1
    The right sector has already begun terror against the people. It's time against him, too, to start terror. A simple army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is necessary to kill them individually and in a heap. Grenade in the car, shoot, burn. It's time!
  50. suvorov12312
    suvorov12312 4 May 2014 11: 57
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    The troops have already been entered ... Militias of the South-East - who is this in your opinion ???? ... Special Operations Forces of the GRU or FSB.
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    2. pensioner
      pensioner 4 May 2014 13: 07
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      Quote: suvorov12312
      The troops have already been entered ... Militias of the South-East - who is this in your opinion ???? ... Special Operations Forces of the GRU or FSB.

      fool
    3. Anatolich
      Anatolich 4 May 2014 16: 25
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      American Journalists Assert Activists Have Outdated Weapons and Beat Them from Security Forces How They Can [video]
      American journalists conducted their own investigation in the besieged Slavyansk and found that there were no Russians among the local militias.
      The New York Times correspondent spent about a week at the place of deployment in Slavyansk of the 12th company of the militia of the Donetsk Republic. The journalist was convinced that this unit consists of people with military experience, including military service. They all have a local registration.
      “The company’s armament has the same weapons as the Ukrainian military and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, which occupy a position outside the city,” he wrote.
      The reporter claims that activists in the arsenal have Kalashnikov assault rifles, Makarov pistols, Dragunov sniper rifles, light machine guns and anti-tank grenade launchers. Part of a stamped weapon from the 1980s and early 1990s.
      Supporters of federalization themselves said that if Russian special services helped them, they would not have such outdated weapons on hand. The 12th company militias also rejected claims that anyone was paying them.
      - For the guys in Kiev, we are separatists and terrorists. But for the people here - we are defenders and patrons, ”said the company commander, who introduced himself as Yuri.
      Recall that two days ago, fierce clashes broke out in a suburb of Slavyansk. Residents of the village of Andreevka stood up in a living shield so as not to miss the convoy of the military and the Right Sector. Some radicals opened fire on civilians. As a result, according to the people's mayor of Slavyansk, ten people died.

      The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported that during this night battle two paratroopers were killed and seven more were injured. Now the situation in the Andreevka region is controlled by the Ukrainian military.

      According to the agency, heavy and small arms were used against the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tonight and hand grenades were actively used.

      - you, your masters did not find Russians in Ukraine, try to go yourself, can you find it?