The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May

21: 25 MSK In Donetsk, anti-Maiden activists occupied the local headquarters of the Security Service and the investigative headquarters of the Security Service. According to the Internet publication Ostrov, the premises in which there was no security were occupied by people dressed in camouflage uniforms and armed with bats and fittings. The action involves several thousand people, the number of people is increasing. Activists hoisted the flag of the "Donetsk People's Republic" on the visor of the captured building of the UBSU.
In the city there are thousands of rally in memory of those killed in Odessa. People are anxiously waiting for the night: there is information that armored vehicles are coming to the capital of Donbass, obviously, in order to carry out a punitive operation there, reports Russia 24 TV channel.
20: 52 MSK The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry claims that citizens of Russia who allegedly took part in the riots in Odessa were detained in Ukraine.
According to the foreign ministry, "Ukrainian law enforcement agencies received confirmation of the participation of Russian citizens in provocations in Odessa on May 2." According to the version of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, the detainees "are already testifying."
20: 55 MSK Oleg Tsarev Kharkiv Khatyn is preparing:

20: 32 MSK Odessa is brewing a new massacre:

20: 14 MSK People during a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa died instantly due to the burning of an unknown substance, according to the Ukrainian news agency UNIAN.
"A lot of people died jumping from 4-5 floors of the building, the rest from carbon monoxide or burned ... I was at the scene and saw a large number of people who died. And it was obvious that they died suddenly, very quickly. That is, what kind of “A substance that released gas, and this gas very quickly affected people who lost consciousness and died on the spot,” said First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema at a briefing in Odessa.
19.29 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine issued an official statement that the Trade Union House in Odessa was set on fire by activists who occupied the building. This is contrary to scenes from the scene and eyewitness reports.

At the same time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine claims that "from the upper floors, the attackers began to inject incendiary bottles with civilians and fire at them from the firearms weapons. As a result of the attackers' use of Molotov cocktails, a fire broke out. From the upper floors, the fire spread to a large area. "

18: 50 MSK Ukrainian presidential candidate Yulia Tymoshenko called the burning of people in Odessa protection of administrative buildings, and the attack of the radicals on the Anti-Maidan camp as a peaceful demonstration. The politician also believes that Odessans were killed by saboteurs groups, and not by the radicals of the Right Sector.

“They (the dead - ed.) Have children, had their own lives, their own plans. All this was cut short by the fact that during a peaceful demonstration in support of the unity of Ukraine sabotage units were sent, who began to kill Odessans,” Tymoshenko said. which leads the press service of the party led by her "Batkivshchyna".

"We persevered and defended in Odessa, because the Odesa citizens began to pull themselves to help at the time when they began attacking the participants of the pro-Ukrainian procession, and were able to protect the administrative buildings," the politician said.

17: 56 MSK In Slavyansk, after the departure of the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) military observers, clashes between radicals and supporters of federalization began. This was reported by the correspondent. ITAR-TASS representative of the self-defense forces in the city.
According to him, 15 people were killed in Slavyansk, only four of them were armed, and the rest of 11 were civilians. According to the assumptions of the militias, "representatives of the" Right Sector "could organize a provocation of the next military actions."
17: 56 MSK During the storming of the Ukrainian Kramatorsk, snipers killed two people, the city’s hospitals are overcrowded, Ilya Dolzhnytsky, an activist of people's self-defense, told Russia-24 TV channel.
17: 50 MSK Address of residents of Lugansk to residents of Donetsk 03 05 2014

17.30 MSKOleg Tsarev - Statement from the South-East of Ukraine

17.25 MSK Odessans blocked the building of the regional militia, demanding to punish those responsible for the deaths
Odessans blocked on Saturday the building of the regional police department. About a hundred and fifty demonstrators express outrage at the police’s inaction during the riots provoked by Right Sector activists and the so-called “Maidan’s self-defense” that led to the death of 46 people.
They demand the resignation of the Odessa governor, chanting "Nemirovsky - the murderer" and threatening to launch an assault on the building. In turn, the House of Trade Unions, which on Friday was set on fire by extremists, citizens all day carry flowers and candles in memory of the victims.
16: 08 MSK Kramatorsk self-defense forces keep only the central part of the city, the rest of the city is occupied by security forces controlled by Kiev, reports RIA News. Currently, shooting in the city has subsided, but the militia is preparing for a new assault on their positions.
15: 27 MSK The Security Service of Ukraine offered on Saturday a new version of the events in Odessa, accusing the former Vice-Premier of Ukraine Sergey Arbuzov and former Minister of Revenue and Fees Oleksandr Klymenko of organizing the unrest.
At the same time, on the eve of this, the authorities in Kiev proceeded from a different version - about involvement in the events of the FSB of Russia - which the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation called delusion and total lies.

"The provocations that took place on 2 in May in the city of Odessa and led to clashes and mass casualties among people occurred due to external interference and were financed by the former high-ranking government of Yanukovych, who are hiding in the neighboring state, Sergey Arbuzov and Alexander Klimenko," message.

15: 19 MSK ITAR-TASS. OSCE staff members detained in Slavyansk with the mediation of Vladimir Lukin arrived in Donetsk. This was reported by ITAR-TASS by one of the employees of Lukin.
“I am very happy to be free,” said German citizen Axel Schneider, who was among the detained military observers.
“Everyone arrived in Donetsk, they feel fine. We are grateful to the representatives of the Council of Europe for the assistance they have received,” he said.
In addition, an employee of Vladimir Lukin added that there were no other tasks for the presidential envoy except for the release of the OSCE staff and, as far as possible, Lukin intends to fly to Moscow.
15: 10 MSK Oleg Tsarev's statement on the events in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk

14: 49 MSK The head of the Antiterrorist Center, Vasily Krutov, said that the Ukrainian military controlled the external radius of Slavyansk and all highways leading to the city. He explained that 14 security forces checkpoints were installed around the city. According to Krutov, the law enforcement officers manage to "prevent the passage of sabotage groups towards the city, the movement of weapons and material resources," reports "Interfax".
The Slavyansk militia headquarters reports on active clashes around the city. As representatives of the people's self-defense say, it happens in the area of ​​the settlement of Druzhkovka. Unarmed residents of the city are attacked by radicals from the Right Sector and the National Guard men, reports Russia 24 channel.
14: 46 MSK Street battles are in the vicinity of Kramatorsk. Snipers are aimed fire from the upper floors of buildings. According to the headquarters of self-defense, there are dead and injured, reports channel Russia 24. The exact number of victims is still unknown.

Snipers, controlled by the Kiev authorities, occupied high-rise buildings and firing from there. The fighting takes place on the streets of the city, a special correspondent of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company informs.
The fact that the Ukrainian security forces continue the operation in Kramatorsk, despite the resistance of the militia, was written on Facebook by the Acting Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. According to him, "there is a dense fire in the city."
14: 31 MSK The National Guard under armored vehicles entered the city of Kramatorsk, after the roadblocks broke through. There was shooting in several areas inside the city. Part of the technology got up near the airfield in Kramatorsk.

They say from the site: "The equipment went to the airfield and tried to storm the SBU, then moved towards the street of the 19 Party Congress. The center is still quiet, there is no technology, the Executive Committee is preparing to repel the attack, according to preliminary data from yesterday's 27 injured and 10 the dead. "

The National Guard under attackers tried to storm the building of the SBU. Citizens take to the streets, blocking equipment with shouts: "Glory to Donbass!", "Fascists!"
14: 13 MSK The people's governor of the Luhansk region, Valery Bolotov, made an official statement: a state of emergency and mobilization is being introduced in the Luhansk region, the Kiev authorities are declared the blood enemies of the people of Luhansk region. The Ukrainian TV channels are disconnected, the aim of the united army of the South-East is Kiev.

13: 27 MSK The militias are ready to exchange prisoners, said the people's mayor of Slavyansk

"We have to exchange prisoners for the members of the Right Sector, members of the fascist parties," he said. “If the junta wants to exchange them, then we are ready,” Ponomarev added. He also noted that the release of OSCE foreign observers was not an exchange, but unilaterally.

13: 24 MSK The supporters of federalization and the citizens of Odessa who sympathize with them threw off the flag of Ukraine, which was raised yesterday by extremists on the Kulikovo Field, and burned it.
A scuffle occurred during the removal of the flag - there were several people among those present who tried to prevent the activists. A fight ensued. No serious injuries. At the scene were police officers.
13: 11 MSK Activist: militia groups moved from the Crimea to help Slavyansk

"In Slavyansk, our guys are reporting that they are now reformatting, redeploying forces. We know that we have come to support the Crimea ... Two battalions of Crimean guys came out, which will join our struggle," the commissioner of the social-patriotic movement told RIA Novosti Eastern Front "Nikolay Solntsev.

According to him, the militia formed in the Crimea "are coming to our aid to fight fascism."
13: 08 MSK In Kramatorsk, in the district of the village of Belenkaya (Stankostroy), there is a battle at the checkpoint. This is reported by civilian journalists.
Shooting from large-caliber machine guns and cannons (presumably BMD) continues, tires are burning.
12: 50 MSK In the DNI creates a single popular resistance. General Mobilization Announced
In the Donetsk region in Ukraine, where on the eve of the authorities began to conduct a special operation using aviation and military equipment, mobilization has been announced, a unified national resistance is being created, the commissar of the socio-patriotic movement "Eastern Front" Nikolai Solntsev told RIA Novosti.

“Donetsk is mobilizing today, full mobilization has been announced. Our security forces are ready for full-scale hostilities, ”he said.

Solntsev said that "people today are going to the square."

“Today we will mobilize people into a single popular resistance, so that every citizen of the city, so that every citizen of Donbass stands up as one for his freedom,” he noted.

12: 47 MSK The prosecutor said 46 killed in the riots in Odessa
INTERFAX.RU - During the riots in Odessa on Friday, 46 people died, the prosecutor of the Odessa region, Igor Borshulyak, told reporters on Saturday at a press conference.
Also, the head of the supervisory authority noted that law enforcement officers are now conducting operational investigative actions on a number of criminal proceedings, including the fact of official negligence of police officers. As part of criminal proceedings, 144 people were detained.
According to the Odessa City Council, as of 09: 00 on May 3, 214 people turned to Odessa hospitals. Of the 88 applicants, people were hospitalized, including one teenager 17 years old.
On Friday in Odessa mass riots and fights occurred between supporters and opponents of the Maidan overnight. They were followed by a fire in the House of Trade Unions, in which the majority of people died.
13: 03 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine declares that it took full control of the airport in the Ukrainian Kramatorsk and all roadblocks around the city, RIA Novosti reports.
13: 00 MSK A video message of self-defense fighters from Nikolaev appeared on Youtube.

12: 57 MSK Protesters gather at the Trade Union building in Odessa.

12: 55 MSK Citizen journalists report that shots are heard in Kramatorsk.

12: 32 MSK Odessa blood transfusion station said there was a shortage of donor blood, civilian journalists report.
12: 29 MSK In the Odessa region a battalion of the Storm patrol service is being created, the UNN reports with reference to the press service of the local police department of Ukraine.
Candidates for service in the battalion must have Ukrainian citizenship, experience serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine or in other military formations, and have no criminal record. They must not be younger than 19 and older than 35.
12: 27 MSK The Kremlin called absurd the possibility of holding presidential elections in Ukraine against the background of increasing violence. This, according to the IA "Interfax", said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov. “After what happened in Odessa, against the background of how the spiral of confrontation unwinds in the south-east of the country, we don’t understand what kind of elections they are talking about in Kiev, in European capitals and in Washington,” he told reporters on Saturday.
A spokesman for the Russian president said that neither Russia nor any other country can no longer affect the residents of south-eastern Ukraine, who feel threatened by their lives. For the bloodshed in Ukraine, Kiev and "its Western sponsors" are directly responsible.
11.46 MSK In Slavyansk, the OSCE observers captured on April 25 were released.
11: 39 MSK The leader of the Odessa Liberation Movement of Kulikovo Field, Yegor Kvasnyuk, is sure that after the Friday events in the city a “partisan” opposition to the armed militants will begin
11.34 MSK The Belarusian railway has changed the routes of its trains in the Kharkov-Donetsk section.
11.02 MSK 42 people died, 125 hospitalized as a result of a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. The head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Odessa region, Petr Lutsyuk, was dismissed from his post, an official investigation was launched against him, the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine said.
10: 25 MSK The militiamen in Slavyansk report the death of more than 10 civilians who blocked the Right Sector convoy at night.

"Last night, in the village of Andreevka (a suburb of Slavyansk), people came out to block the road to the column of the Right Sector, formed a living chain, but the soldiers of the Right Sector opened fire, causing more than 10 people to die,"

- said Interfax on Saturday by telephone to the “people's mayor” of Slavyansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev.
He reported that, as a result of the incident, still order 40 people were injured.
10: 17 MSK The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Arsen Avakov, announced the liquidation of two checkpoints near the Kramatorsk airport in the Donetsk region, Interfax reports. Nothing is known about the victims or the victims.
Avakov wrote about the liquidation of two roadblocks in his Facebook.
9.20 MSK China is "concerned about the situation in Ukraine" and calls on the parties to the conflict to "maintain composure and restraint."
08: 04 MSK Force operation in Kramatorsk continued at dawn - Avakov
Divisions of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies beat off a television tower in Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, from supporters of federalization on Saturday night, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said.
“The operation was carried out by the National Guard and the soldiers. The active phase of the operation continued at dawn. We are not stopping,” the minister wrote on his Facebook page on Saturday morning.
6.22 MSK In the UN Security Council blocked the initiative to support the Geneva agreements on Ukraine.
5.02 MSK Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
1.45 MSK Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: storythat "the separatists received weapons from the FSB" - a lie.
00.43 MSK Media: Ukrainian security officials began storming in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, television reports
00.35 MSK Co-chairman of the "Donetsk People's Republic": the date of the referendum on sovereignty does not change.
00.27 MSK The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: the death of people in Odessa is a manifestation of the criminal irresponsibility of the Kiev authorities. So the Russian Foreign Ministry responded to the arson attack by the militants of the Right Sector of the trade unions house, which killed 38 people.

Comments

[leks]

It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, first of all, small arms, as well as cartridges for them, RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communication equipment and dry soldering.
And people in these areas are already raising their teeth to those who trample on them; they defend their right to live as free people.
If it is undesirable for our government to send troops now, let’s help with weapons and medicines.
These same areas border with us; you can also organize a corridor for both weapons and volunteers to help !!!

[svp67]

Quote: leks

It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk region, primarily the rifle and their cartridges, we need RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communications equipment and dry soldering.

There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

[Nicholas C.]

Brothers, you are making the same mistake as Yanukovych. You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line. They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields. Partisan. Only then will they want the border. The case is for snipers and experts in mine explosives, for today's N.I. Kuznetsov. With complete secrecy.

[_Forgiven_]

And you try to go out of town! A bunch of women snipers from the Baltic states are sitting in the woods and firing at all the cars. Armor and dol.bany guard with pravosekami beat with Kalash on everything that moves. Here on the site you are a hero, and you come to me in Slavyansk and show your ardor. Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road

[tds-8_78]

Be patient. Help will be.

[aristarh]

let there be no help whatsoever all that the Russians in the Security Council have already done.

[dmitry_den]

it is true, Kozyrev's diplomacy of non-interference in the process of the Anglo-Saxons' implementation of the "divide and conquer" technology has changed a little.

Russian aid has been and will be within the framework of "we are indignant" "we demand conviction" from whom is it demanded? those who are actually the owners and customers of the third world war?

laurels and his kodla is washed by snot and his ordinary employees are given diplomats in the faces around the world.

everything that happens is happening by agreement of the Russian oligarchic elite with the western "partners", that is, Putin will not interfere in the resolution of the conflict, but in return will receive guarantees to pump hydrocarbons until the people of Russia themselves understand that he was finally thrown

[kare]

Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road

And you work on no matter what
And do not worry at all, the situation will resolve itself
When they will kill and burn your loved ones, stand by and condemn
Patience, it may cost
So work for your health

[_Forgiven_]

Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words

[Krsk]

Good luck to you guys !!!

[Moskal 55]

"Mobilization has been announced in the Donetsk region, a united popular resistance is being created. This was stated by Nikolai Solntsev, commissar of the public-patriotic movement" Eastern Front "."
Something like this ... Sorry for the repeated response to your comment.

[kare]

Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words

It is necessary to express more clearly. From the first post you can understand that only care is about work. What is your population, correlate with the number of defenders. Here and
one gets the impression that many on the principle, my hota from the edge, nothing ...
Don’t pay attention to harsh words, it’s from impotent anger that I can’t help at the moment. If you weren’t an elderly person in your arms, weak, you would have been with you for a long time. The best defense is an attack. Do not judge us, we sit and swallow evil tears while listening to silence ....
But remember, it is impossible to simultaneously take revenge on the street and engage in charity. Either war or work

[_Forgiven_]

You also have to understand that they don’t give money for self-defense, that's why you have to - work so that you can buy bread and fight. It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that they will be able to deliver humanitarian aid

[kare]

It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that humanitarian aid can be delivered

I understand everything. Andrei. Only your situation on the Maidan is not similar. You are faced with a choice. Slavery or death. The dogs will not wait until you go to work.
With all my heart, hold on

[CALL.]

Ukrainian security forces began an assault in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, according to television

[_Forgiven_]

Thank you, we will try. Weapons are few, this is the main problem!

[His]

Strange you Ukrainians are all waiting when Peti and Vasya from Khabarovsk or Kemerovo will defend your fifth point, receiving bullets in their hearts. And you? Therefore, Kiev did not become a city - a hero, unlike Sevastopol, Odessa and Kerch. Work on and don’t notice anything and your son grow up the same. Be healthy people

[Thompson]

The new article is just for and about them! -Http: //topwar.ru/46364-smert-himere-pokayanie.html

[Buran]

Tell me where to send the money? How to help? I’m just, well, very far from everything that is happening, but I want to help.

[dmitry_den]

do not pay attention to him. lying on the stove he will fight with NATO. such as he is gorlopan and cheers patriots usually dump in the forefront of the theater of operations

[Skipper2050]

Hold on guys, hold on, half of Russia would rush to your aid, but it's not so simple. GDP is silent, then something is up to, so there will be help.

[Thompson]

Yeah. I watched the report yesterday. A young guy from Slavic said: everything is fine, everything is under control. OUR standing posts guard us!
And he himself was not hiding behind his wife. Or am I the only one who misunderstood him?

Everything is complicated. Or simply. It is strange that they only capture posts, but do not enter cities. What kind of tactics ...? To be afraid or to starve ...?

[Elle-elle]

Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?

[Thompson]

Quote: Elle-elle

Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?

Himself not from there. But he came out with the handle, not from you, but in Russia. And then, unlike you, all of us rose as one who, with what he could, walked with that! So they did not let those who did not have weapons! And everyone had wives and children and relatives!
Therefore, I do not need us here either la la la. He who wants to is looking for at least one opportunity, who does not want to seek thousands of reasons! Maybe he wrote hard, but I think so!
PS And to be straightforward to the end- Banderlog and Natsik, and ki, WANT and DO, and not only at home, but already at your place! Or are they all orphans and homeless? Learn or take an example from the enemy ... And stop whining

[Foooxxxxx]

This is the problem. And who will feed? If all the opponents of the nationalists would quit work and go against them, they would not think enough!

[petrT]

Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.

[petrT]

Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.

[kavad]

I’m not repeating, not repeating twice, twice.

Che for fashion write posts twice ?! They won’t read it the first time? Or do not understand?
Write three or four for sure.

[Moskal 55]

Guys! You need everyone to get up. How many people are in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Join your resistance. Urgently inform all friends and relatives in other settlements of the regions. Probably there will be volunteers from Russia, and maybe not only, but here you need to get together and act together.

[T-73]

That's it - for everyone. Try to sit out - well, well. I’ll have to rest, most likely. If you take care of the children, then certainly not at work.

[avia1991]

So you go to work, dear? You know, not everything is so bad with you .. Until EVERYONE rises, they will beat you! Minus how much it will fit, but if in a city with a population of 120 thousand, 2000 fighters were gathered under martial law - what to talk about ?! Are you waiting for the Russian Federation to send troops? And if not? !! Warehouses with weapons - it was rightly said above - just that China is not enough to arm, but no one undertakes to expropriate them. Why? Civilians "stand up as human shields"! .. This is generally touching: WHAT YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND STILL, WHAT IS THE RIGHT SECRETS RIGHT ON THIS SHIELD ?! WILL MOVE AND WON'T FALL! Ah, sniper women! In Afghanistan, spirits without exception were snipers - they shot so that no optics stood nearby! And what was to be done - to sit in the trenches? Where would we be now .. Calculate, and p ... dy shoot them, TWA-RYAM! In my own mind, my hope is dying out for Russia's participation - for the second day, the authorities will be INSILENT IN A RAG! LIKE THERE ARE NO AT ALL - the weekend, no time for trifles .. The Vedmedik only in the facebook (!!!) yesterday vyaknul what, they say, bastards - and that's it, SILENCE. It seems that it is time for the people to act independently, no matter how late it is.

[kavad]

Once so smart - come and help yourself. Cabinet philosopher ...

"The Vedmedik only in the facebook (!!!) vyaknul yesterday, what, they say, bastards - and that's it, SILENCE."
- In-in, just like you blather, but not on Facebook, but here. Silence too, actually ...

Participating yourself in this 3.14dez and building yourself as a hero on the Internet is a bit different things.

[Elle-elle]

And it’s also hard to read the comments of the Russians “sofa troops, why are you so few, you’re not fighting like that, so no one will help you” ... brothers, well, don’t, eh? There is no way to help, so at least do not peck, and it’s so hard, it’s really scary to go to work past the checkpoints

[ELECTRON]

Why don’t you be so angry with our couch troops !!! The people are not gloating, but simply trying to express all their anger and feelings, even here ...
I sincerely wish you not to bend and stand !!!!!

[Anisim1977]

You're 100% right
But we, the ordinary ones, will not even be able to get to you - the border is thoroughly closed.
Try to open the Donetsk and Lugansk borders on your own.
Not a small number of people from Novorossia still have a brain zombie, and only for this reason Our troops are not with you yet.
There is still a great risk of becoming not liberators but acupants.
I think this is the main reason.

[Nettle]

For all ordinary. Ticket Krasnodar-Kerch 1200. There, in the volunteer squad, you sign up and go.

[T-73]

You are right, brother. It just won't be. They shake you as they can. Russia is not just standing aside. I think that we are looking for a reason. We wait. To securely press down. What do you command me to do? This is not Crimea. There you 50/50. Who is pro-Russian, who is not. Do you think everyone here Anika warriors gathered? From some Topvarians it’s possible to assemble a couple of battalions that are combat-ready. Many served here. And they did not forget not only how to disassemble-assemble Kalash for a while. And that ramrod is a dual-use device

[dmitry_den]

"And you try to go out of town!"

You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
"Russia for Russians" constantly sounds from the lips of "pure Russian boys".

[Setrac]

Quote: dmitry_den

Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

Crimea to you as an example.

[dmitry_den]

Crimeans have not yet felt the everyday life in a Russian communal apartment. The euphoria will pass, and the usual problems of the subsidized region will remain with the growing discontent of other regions, which will reduce development payments due to the alleged development of Crimea.

Yes, comrade Marshal, you take note of this moment, and after a year and two compare what will be done concretely for the Crimea and the Crimeans.

Or do you still meekly believe the Medvedev gang, headed by a dvorkovich, shuvalov and other scum plundering the country?

[saag]

Why should they be subsidized with their gas? Or factories ..

[dmitry_den]

wait and see. to raise the country not in a bathhouse with a neighbor

[dmitry_den]

today they were just talking about the Moscow ZIL, where the director of the plant received 200 million wages with a complete decline in production under his command, and this is due to massive delays in wages to the labor collective and this is in Moscow and not in some kind of outback where the situation is even worse.

[kare]

You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat

The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
"Russia for Russians" constantly sounds from the lips of "pure Russian boys".

How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
Listen to troll, aren't you scared?

[dmitry_den]

Quote: kare

Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat

oh yes .. excuse me, mister goblin, nowadays Russian guys are clean for a sober way of life, to be always in shape and drive a "chock" from Russia

Quote: kare

How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
Listen to troll, aren't you scared?

I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

Sit on the stove, man and chew your hydrocarbon cocktail until it runs dry

[kare]

I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

One troll can always offend the majority with impunity, this is the privilege of weakness
My advice to you. Wipe your snot and try to be a man.
And about the sofa, Farahrut, etc. Schindant 1983-1984
Judging by your hysterical feces, I got you, thief

[dmitry_den]

I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia



before teaching others, clean your home

[kare]

I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia

Well, why are you nervous. The family is not without a freak. I do not use this link. And I haven’t seen a dumber picture before. From where did you get this rubbish

[dmitry_den]

unfortunately from the site of the country that defeated fascism

[Stelth1985]

The word has no correct application. The word comes from antiquity and is written - for the clan (semantic: for the clan) - the first for the clan, that is, it means the firstborn in the family. Therefore, please be careful with your words. As for this, so to speak, "composition" - is clearly the work of underdogs. With a purpose to play people off.

[Buran]

This x..n is the first time I've seen on liberal forums. You will not be one of these cases, citizen "makarevich".

[Legionnaire14]

And what and what, do you chew it yourself?

[kavad]

I absolutely support the "couch strategists".

[niki233]

do not distort!

[dmitry_den]

pull not pull and everything remains as old as the world.

USSR helped Korea beat Anglo-Saxons
USSR helped Vietnam beat Anglo-Saxons

Russia was outraged when they bombed Yugoslavia
Russia was outraged when they bombed Iraq
Russia was outraged when they bombed Libya
Russia was outraged when they bombed South Ossetia and only as it allowed that the geek from Tiflis began to kill, all the same decided to send troops.

How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.

[kare]

How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.

You are in vain nervous, it’s hard to get us crazy, we take an example from our greatest president in the world GDP, and our hallmark iscourtesy
join us

[dmitry_den]

I will join in the event that your GDP finally decides to bring to a logical result this is the project that ALL Russian-speaking people of the former USSR dream of

it’s time to get up the Teutons from the stove already officially declared Russia an enemy.

[Legionnaire14]

How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?
-We Shoigu like a hammer. What about you?

[sscha]

You seem to have washed your brain well! No worse than 25-year-old Russians living in Ukraine who shout: "About my nation and some kind of gil .." How are you different from Banderlog? The fact that you do not shout: "Glory to Bandera!"? And why do you need an alliance with Russia, if everything is so bad with us? It’s a contradiction to yourself - it’s not good (I’m softer so as not to offend). You noticed that your posts are just emotions and ...... But this from the outside is clearly visible! Much better than you my homeland.

[Gradus HuK]

Work is now protecting my home and my FATHERLAND.

[saag]

or maybe it's better to deal with snipers in the green?

[dmitry_den]

a good idea. pick up SVD and go

[Nettle]

That's for sure. It's easy to make a sound.

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[1812 1945]

Quote: Nikolai S.

They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields.

Exactly!!! I repeat for the tenth time: it is necessary to burn the enemy's den! We must start in Glicia. The demoralizing effect will be exceptional when their viper holes are stirred up. This is where Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov (Qadiri Akhmadan KIant Ramzan) can help local administrations and security agencies forget forever that they are “security forces”!

[On the bayonet]

I have been thinking about this for a long time !!! It is necessary to wet them day and night! No European restraint! So that the ground under the feet of the enemy burned !!!

[COLUN]

Quote: Nikolai S.

You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the Bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line.

Bandera showed their whole essence ...
After Odessa, no negotiations and exhortations make sense ...
Unfortunately, "You can do much more with good and a pistol than just good."
Bandera residents are worthy of "Sudoplatov's Candy" !!!

[Tersky]

Quote: svp67

There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

In Donetsk give out weapons
03.05.2014 - 00: 56

Supporters of the Donetsk Republic made a decision "on the carrying of automatic weapons by the soldiers of the self-defense forces and other members of the armed formations on the territory of the Donetsk region."

This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718

[Corsair]

Quote: Tersky

This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718

Where is the video message, and where do volunteers come to receive it?
The "excuse" about the fact that there is not enough weapons - LAZHA, in only one building of the Customs Administration in Donetsk, recently seized 120000 (one hundred twenty thousand !!!) barrels.
Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.

And also MASS and MASS "interesting" and "slippery" questions to the people leading (?) The uprising.

Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???

[Simple]

Quote: Corsair

Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.

First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.

And then massively it is also possible to arm "PS", or to hesitate.

[Little Muck]

To everyone. To everyone. To everyone

Now they broadcast on the air that a battle has begun in Kramatorsk.
Ask for help. Right-wingers, the National Guard and other evil spirits climb.
Infa from here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3Pw7fYlZo

[Corsair]

Quote: Simple

First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.

Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl ...

[Simple]

Quote: Corsair

Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl.

Let them start with this, if there is time:

Federal Law on Civil Defense:

http://teachpro.ru/EOR/School%5COBJSupplies10/Html/der10020.htm

In general, plans for a civil war are in all states.

Is it all so neglected that you (Corsair) ask for advice in open forums?

I think there is no need to explain the fact that the weapon is issued for signature (to have a passport with you) to the personnel of the military formation?

Sincerely.

[avia1991]

Quote: Corsair

Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???

In general, the impression is that Slavinsk was left at the mercy of the pravosek .. Ah, weakly attack yourself! Better to sit quietly - maybe they will stop there? .. This is not about ordinary people, of course. But the actions of the "coordinators" - more precisely, the lack of action - raise questions!

[alone]

Quote: Corsair

the building of the Customs Administration in Donetsk alone, recently captured 120000 (one hundred and twenty thousand !!!) trunks.

At the customs of 120 thousand trunks?

[_Forgiven_]

And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have. I can’t understand one thing - there’s so much talk of Putin about the deployment of troops in case of further escalation of the conflict, but to no avail. Here in Slavyansk, people have long been waiting for the Russian brothers. There is no point in pulling, all the same, these Western agents continue to impose sanctions. What is the point of talking with them and convening conferences if representatives of Russia are not heard and continue to bend their stick?

[Rider]

Quote: _Forgiven_

And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have.

purely hypothetically.

Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
"and you try to get close to this "tiger"?
besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

and conclusion
"but I will wait for the allies, maybe they will release me before the Germans finish my family "

I certainly understand that sitting on the couch is easy to advise (I’m talking to myself)
HOWEVER, this is YOUR family, YOUR home, YOUR land.
THIS IS YOU GOING TO KILL!
or do you think that those who stay at home are not touched?


didn’t want to offend
I have no doubt in your personal courage,
but something like that.

[Corsair]

Quote: Rider

Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
"and you try to get close to this" tiger "?
besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

But the "tigers" were "picked up" and burned ...

[Corsair]

Quote: _Forgiven_

And you try to get to that weapon.

120000 units of small arms were seized in the customs administration building in Donetsk, and WHY the militia is not armed, ask the leaders (?) For the uprising (?)

[Wellych]

I’m sitting here thumping in powerlessness, but there is hope in the outskirts of my fading consciousness.
Furious consulted with the confessor, the Americans crap, they especially follow one special command IL, they call him Doomsday Flight, four times he already flew escorting Putin to the Valaam temple, the priest says to concentrate. Furious is a liberal, but he is gathering strength for something serious, a serious kneading, hold on guys, I think help is coming.
And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.

[T-73]

Quote: Wellych

And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.

We forgive, for it is written without errors)

[Anisim1977]

So we ourselves ask the same !!!
We are also waiting for the troops !!!
But we have no information, like Putin’s, therefore we are waiting for clenched fists.

[Dmitriy1975]

I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows were burning all night, usually no more than a dozen, moreover, like at night and now the traffic there is terrible, the gates at the entrance No. 2 work like they open in an elevator, close it and open again. You guys will excuse us, Donbass, Russians, but damn these creatures just want us to bring in troops, if we don’t introduce them now tomorrow they will iron and howitzer you and only to draw Russia into the war, there is one little hope for a couple of jokers in the sleeve of the GDP, it is painfully quiet somehow.

[Rebus]

Quote: Dmitriy1975

I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows burned all night

Not more than an hour ago, I saw 12 pieces (maybe more, cloudy ...) of military transport aircraft flying in triples up to a kilometer in the west-south-west direction (I live about 80 kilometers from the border with Ukraine ) Il-76 identified 6 pieces, smaller planes flew with them, with a thinner fuselage and a larger sweep of the wing, did not recognize them ... Maybe it was not in vain that the General Staff burned light all night?

PS The last time I saw this was 080808 ...
I don’t know what to think .......

[niki233]

well, a kind uncle will come and do everything for you, and then you will blame him for not giving your family any money.

[Bayard]

Quote: svp67

There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

Do you think it's that simple? Yes, near Artyomovsk in the salt mines of weapons for the 3 millionth army. they only guard well and the mine is mined. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU have only small arms, and the junta has armored vehicles, artillery, aviation ... you can’t trample on a tank, and it’s not so easy to decide on a total war with your compatriots (albeit distraught), although it was decided after yesterday I think most. It’s just that the Southeast has been determined recently, and banderlogs were prepared for about 25 years.
But now there will be no mercy.

[JoylyRoger]

And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).

[ZU-23]

This is practically a minor civil war.

[Tersky]

Quote: ZU-23

This is practically a minor civil war.

Rubicon passed. No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save. Hatred overflows the hearts of millions of Russian-speaking citizens who three months ago considered Ukraine their state, and who now do not want to hear this word. This is not even a civil war, it is a direct challenge to the Slavic world.

[istomin36]

I agree, what is happening causes disgust

[Dmitriy1975]

What is happening causes only one desire, the desire to KILL !!!!!

[igor_m_p]

I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve. In my opinion, the time for talking has passed. No, you can talk indefinitely, but our diplomats are simply not heard. And they don’t hear not because they don’t hear, but because they just don’t want to hear.
I am not saying that an urgent throw of tank columns to Washington is needed, of course not. But to show the ambassadors at the door and withdraw their, in my opinion, it is time. And screw the valve on the pipe to normalize the situation, not only to Ukraine, but to the entire geyrop ... Somehow ...

[Setrac]

Quote: igor_m_p

I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve.

This is where everything is clear. Our government is waiting for the Donbass to move from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.

[sniper]

Quote: Setrac

from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.

I think that you are mistaken here ... It was from this that the protests began, the tricolor was hung out ... Russia, after all, is the same more profitable to have Ukraine as a whole state, but friendly ... Yes, and it is very difficult to pull new regions economically ...

[Sid.74]

Quote: Tersky

No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save.

Yes, no Victor since yesterday, no Ukraine! We burned it in the fire of the house of trade unions and in the burning checkpoints of Slavyansk! Now only: New Russia or death!

The state of the Ruin sewn from the fragments of empires ate itself in a cannibalistic frenzy with hooting and drinking hymns!
Where are those people on the site who praised the Maidan? With their tacit consent, the Ruin turned into a mixture of a hellish circus tent and Somalia! Thought Russophobia is this national fun of Svidomo Ukrainian, no, this is ordinary fascism! Do not forget that Russophobia is the sister companion of anti-Semitism! Who else believes What European happiness will there be in the Ruin? European integration, you say? I don't want to integrate, all the "best" took from Nazism! Now I'm thinking whether the bar will drop if I see a blue-yellow rag in someone's hands, can I forget photos of burnt people from the house of the trade union, will I not fall too!
Question to the Strategic Missile Forces, maybe at least someone will throw a berets on the control panel and put an end to the stupid overseas democracy No. 1?
Nothing personal, only revenge !!!

[Sid.74]

In Odessa, on Kulikovo Field - several hundred people, the flag of Ukraine is torn

Odessa, May 03 (Navigator, Artemy Glazunov) - Supporters of Anti-Maidan, outraged by yesterday’s events, begin to gather on Kulikovo Field.

According to a Navigator correspondent, several hundred people have already gathered at the site of the deaths of protesters.

The Ukrainian flag has already been torn from the flagpole building in front of the House of Trade Unions, where a fire occurred yesterday. Subsequently, the flag was given to the fire.

People arrive with St. George ribbons, mourning bandages and flowers.

The union building is surrounded by police. Some activists tried to break through the cordon, clashes with law enforcement officers began.

As reported by the "Navigator", that during the riots in Odessa in Odessa, according to recent reports, 42 people died.

I just want to add one thing, Odessans do not walk with bare hands, "lighters" can be made by everyone, chains, pipes, bats, adjustable wrenches, hammers, axes are not a problem to find! Do not walk like medieval knights with superior weapons, hide everything in bags, bags, backpacks! Wear, if possible, clothes not made of synthetics, protect your eyes and limbs, alone you are an easy prey, defend in groups, come up with neutral insignia, ribbons or part of clothes of certain colors, something that is easy to remove by mixing in the city with the crowd, do not walk alone only in groups, do not disdain to ambush here there is no place for officer honor, organize mobile groups on cars that can bring up the necessary for "lighters", find yourself a leader better from the military or the police (Berkut), a megaphone and walkie-talkies are useful! it will not be superfluous to find yourself "reporters" with good photo and video equipment on which you can and should shoot the faces of children, publicity for them is like death! And groups of observers, even from veterans with m abundant telephones that peacefully sit and watch where the thugs go with shouts of glory to the ruin!

After yesterday, it’s already a war at the hands of young children who are waiting for them, you and the whole Southeast now need to destroy them all, peacefully in silence and tranquility it will not work, organize yourselves with God! Don’t stop now, pardon me, it will be like in Slavyansk!

[T-73]

Quote: Tersky

this is a direct challenge to the Slavic world

Everything went to that. The Union talked a lot about the decaying West, and so now it’s gangrene. IMHO

[Com T-64a]

Dear, I think that GDP is waiting for public opinion to be formed by 1000%!
So that in the heart of EVERY Russian citizen settled deep, black hatred of the Nazis, mattresses and other evil spirits now living in Ukraine ... And then WAR, until the end .. WWII!
I think so...

[Salamander]

I don’t understand why Russia doesn’t use Israel’s tactics. A couple of planes deliver a targeted blow to the headquarters of the punishers and we have nothing to do with it. America will scream and calm down. And the pioneers will understand the warning well.

[ultra]

Quote: Salamander

.A pair of planes delivers a point strike at the headquarters.

To do this, it is necessary to suppress air defense, which means dozens, if not hundreds, of killed Ukrainian troops! The question is, should we go for it?

[igor_m_p]

Quote: ultra

To do this, suppress air defense

Iskander. And no air defense will help. The accuracy is sufficient. The range is also.

[voveim]

Right! Yesterday I wrote about this:
1. Announce a no-fly zone over all areas of the Southeast.
2. To cut with "Iskander" (or something else like that) in the established places of concentration of all this Bandera gang.
3. Communication and management completely hamper them with interference.
After all, they were able to do this in the Crimea, can it really fail?

[T-73]

Quote: igor_m_p

Iskander. And no air defense will help. The accuracy is sufficient. The range is also.

He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important. Many doubters on the Outskirts. Forcibly sweet you will not

[Corsair]

Quote: T-73

He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important.

For whom is it important? The Israelis do not hesitate to strike at Syria without "losing face."
Objections are possible that " territory U
"it is inhabited by people who are not strangers to us ... but it should be taken into account that the Iskanders will also be used not in cities and civilian objects, but in the military infrastructure, which is important and critical for the junta.
And all the more, always possible with a warning alert of the impending impact, so that l \ s was timely displayed, and the equipment came under attack.

[T-73]

Quote: Corsair

For whom is it important? Israelis strike a punch in Syria

It is important for us. Russia will never sink to a small-town state. IMHO

[andj61]

Quote: T-73

Quote: igor_m_p
Iskander. And no air defense will help. The accuracy is sufficient. The range is also.
He took off the tongue.

Likewise. But, besides the Iskander, there are cruise missiles, which can be fired at low altitude - it is difficult to take air defenses, and the launch is not so exposed.

[T-73]

Quote: andj61

there are cruise missiles

The game is much thinner. All hope is on Putin's "quiet hunters", what they come up with - we'll see. "Counterpost" at least believes in them. I'm inclined too.

[their]

The whole world will scream about anti-Semitism, since there are all around Jews and Israelis, and the headquarters of the punitive Menorah in Dnepropetrovsk.

[RF citizen]

For we must not do this. We are not enlightened Europe, but Wild Russia. When the Maydanovites seized the buildings - a peaceful protest, when people were hiding in Odessa in Odessa - they were burned like Colorado and separatists.
That's the whole point and difference. We are all sort of tricks at the UN, OSCE, NATO, and that's all we need. Time goes by, people are dying, the fire of civil war flares up, is getting close to our borders. And we are "condolences, peace talks, free gas, energy, South Stream ..."

Odessans are also "good". There are a bunch of men for you, there are more weapons than we have in all of Siberia, sit and wait for the polite. Well, wait further.
Excuse me, men, but you cannot compare with Slavic. Are you worried about everything for children and wives, that there will be nothing to feed? Yes, it’s not a question, law-enforcers will solve this question too: I’ll die in jail, I’ll die of your wives and children — they will not stand on ceremony. This has already been proven more than once.

[APASUS]

Quote: leks

It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, primarily to small arms and also to them cartridges

There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war.

[cosmos111]

Italian mercenary, among the punishers ....

[evgenii]

is that damn-ahhh, that-oooooooooh ....

[svd-xnumx]

on YouTube more than once links do not open where something murky happens, censorship in action?

[kubanec]

READ OUT !! ----- but then it will be a real war .------ THERE IS ALREADY A REAL WAR !!!!! AND EXACTLY THE GENOCIDE OF RUSSIAN AND ORTHODOX POPULATION !!!!!

[their]

Exactly, wake up, and see if you have Israel-Bandera there nearby.

[Dubox]

let war be better than unarmed massacre

[igor_m_p]

Quote: APASUS

Enough for the army, but then it will be a real war.

There is already a real war, there is nothing left to lose ...

[Aleksandr65]

Here are name-weapons and volunteer instructors. And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.

[poquello]

Quote: Aleksandr65

.... And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.

What for? Yanukovych is an extreme option, Ukraine will wake up and everything around is green and President Yanukovych.

[Anton Gavrilov]

Yes, if we really supplied our weapons there, this operation would have already ended long ago, although it has now stalled tightly.

[Fitter]

lack of organization !!
http://anti-maidan.com/?p=streams&sid=bg-studio1
in Slavyansk need coordination!

[avia1991]

Strelkov in Slavyansk holds coordination, and obviously knows his business - well done, man! Only, it seems, he was left there alone, without outside support .. And the contingent is not personnel, disruptions are inevitable.

[T-73]

Strelkov alone is not enough. Well done, of course, man. But don't tear. One without personnel support cannot take control of the situation, I mean the expansion of the sphere of influence.

[bandabas]

Actually our LORD PRESIDENT said "A". I must say - "B"

[ankh-andrej]

Maybe it would be better not to say that "A"? Didn't give hope for help? Wouldn't you rock the situation? And then somehow everything comes out ugly.

[Anisim1977]

Yes, the masks are ripped off !!!
Burning people in the whole building is already not human !!!!
New Russia - arm yourself with whatever you can - destroy this scum mercilessly !!!!!
Yes GOD give you strength and courage !!!!

[FunkschNNX]

Quote: leks

We need to arrange the supply of weapons

Right now I’m watching the flight of Tu-95, Il-76 and Tu-22M3 towards the Crimea. They are not 2-3 here, I won’t say exactly where and how many, so as not to shoot ahead of time. They go very low, probably not to light ahead of time. Given that several ships with IJES hang out in the Black Sea, I think NATO already knows about these aircraft. But that would not harm my own, I will not say whether they are armed or not. God forbid enough demonstrations to cool the ardor of these scumbags.

[FunkschNNX]

Correction: Tu-160 White Swan is also with it ", and according to my personal classification -" The last argument of Russian diplomacy. "

PS The tanker went in the opposite direction, I think the bombers landed on the destination airfield. Well, or gone on purpose; joke, God forbid of course.

[Dubox]

If here the truth is what they are talking about, then maybe in Slavic not everything is lost

[Skipper2050]

It is necessary to organize a corridor, to bring out purely civilians (women, children, the elderly), it will be calmer. The weapon is necessary and normal, with ammunition in large quantities. The GDP has probably sent specialists there.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

[Corsair]

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

Where is the expression of this rage?
In addition to diplomatic politeness and "concern about the situation" YET (?) There are no actions ...

[SANAY]

And stop calling them "partners" !!!! It's time to switch to "opponents", then to "rivals", "ill-wishers", "pests" and "opponents" !!!!!!!!!

[Little Muck]

Quote: Corsair

In addition to diplomatic politeness and "concern about the situation" YET (?) There are no actions ...

Yeah. And as you want to see the "Squadrons" in action and air defense is not necessary to suppress and the distance should be enough to demoralize the junta.

[Grenader]

Quote: Corsair

Where is the expression of this rage?
In addition to diplomatic politeness and "concern about the situation" YET (?) There are no actions ...

Diplomatic efforts will get you nowhere. For the West, our statements are just a concussion. The longer we delay, the more blood will be shed in Ukraine. Sanctions will still be applied to us, if not now then later. If we leave the South East, then the Maidan will be on the Red Square. So we have no options. Renouncing its sphere of influence in Europe turned into a fire for Russia near its own border. And how many liberals shouted in the 90s - "Why should we feed all?" Now we are paying for this, because the wider the zone of influence of the state, the higher its security.

[Elle-elle]

Deeply shocked? Now, it remains to express "deep concern" and - another diplomatic curtsey - "to express deep condolences to the victims and call on the Kiev authorities to de-escalate", though for the fifth time, but diplomacy, why ...

[shurik]

The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

Where is the expression of this rage?
In addition to diplomatic politeness and "concern about the situation" YET (?) There are no actions ...

Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

[Corsair]

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
Then they began to "concentrate", but the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

Crimea "let's take it in brackets" ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
Then they began to "concentrate", but the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

Crimea "let's take it in brackets" ...

And what do you suggest "checkers bald and forward"? This is just what they expect from us .. The UN is silent .. And the manifestations as you understand (columns of armored vehicles on peregazovki ... ??) 3 helicopters were shot down and not from a rifle bike .. Now the formation of self-defense units is underway. Work is underway and we will soon it we learn .. And to scream "everything is gone Russia about ... sb) This is on all Bandera sites now sounds ..

[Dubox]

And what do you suggest "checkers bald and forward"?

I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.

[Pacificus]

But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola.

... and US is not in Ukraine;) I officially declare ...

[avia1991]

Quote: MIKHAN

And what do you suggest "checkers bald and forward"?

You do not admit that you wishful thinking? The situation became hot not yesterday. HOW MUCH DO I NEED TIME FOR THE GENERAL STAFF AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL TO WORK OUT AN ACTION PLAN ?? DAY, WEEK ??? MONTH??? They already had longer terms! And the reaction is zero! So it will be necessary for the Southeast to go to Kadyrov for help! .. I want to scream: VLAAAAST !!! YOU ARE WHEREER? !!! Russia is already guilty everywhere, and no one will do anything to us worse than it is! So it is necessary to create at least something of what we are accused of - so that it would not be offensive! Are we urged to take all measures to de-escalate the conflict ?! !! So you need to meet them! GATHER THESE RIGHTS ON ALL BUSHES TO THE WEST BORDER! AND EVERYTHING - THE CONFLICT WILL END!

[Vorodis_vA]

and work in the southeast according to whose are you doing?

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

Quote: Corsair

Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
Then they began to "concentrate", but the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

Corsair, despite our skirmish yesterday, I support you today. In the comments to the article that you didn't like yesterday, there is a video that reveals interesting things. Right now, we have received broad support for the idea that the Americans want to involve Russia in the military conflict in Ukraine by all means. And we're not in it, are we? According to the rhetoric of the West at all political platforms (UN, etc.), according to the adopted sanctions, we are at its very epicenter! You can, of course, now, like Pierre Bezukhov in "War and Peace", wander around like a plague and stunned at fire, blood, death and tears, but not take up arms. "To prevent Russia from being drawn into a bloody conflict" - this is all from EVIL!
First of all. How have the conflicts of recent years ended, where we have not been "drawn"? Yugoslavia - IN SCREWS! Afghanistan is in smoke! Iraq is in dust! Libya - IN FLAGS! Syria - and here the Americans had a bobble - we did not "drain" it! We ourselves are not fighting there, but we provide support not only "in words", and the militants there are very slowly but surely squeezed out. But!
Secondly. "Very slowly" in Ukraine is not acceptable for us! Our people are there (even if many of them have been fooled by the Kiev propaganda)! How much more blood do you need? In Crimea, she was not, only because they did not play for time.
Thirdly. Will the protracted guerrilla war begin? And besides pravosekov who there will be a partisan?
Fourth. Will we find ourselves in political and economic isolation? Is it not clear that the Americans are striving for this, and the outcome of the case in Ukraine will not affect their "line" in any way. Guys, wake up! The "trial" has already ended, the guilty "verdict" has already been passed and is not subject to appeal! And according to this "verdict" we are "aggressors" (see the results of the meeting between Obama and Merkel, the results of the UN Security Council meeting).
And now, the only thing that the Americans are not really achieving, but fearing, is the entry of our troops into Ukraine and the establishment of our control and ensuring the uninterrupted supply of energy to Europe. One hope is that Putin has a plan, and its implementation takes some time, it’s only a pity that time is running out and people are dying.

[sergio6769]

I agree completely

[Elle-elle]

Thank. Very sound thoughts, even the mood somehow improved.

[Corsair]

Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy

Syria - and here the Americans had a bobble - we did not "drain" it!

Towards Syria, we "grew up and wiser", but will there be enough determination to demonstrate and manifest these qualities in the territory of?

[svd-xnumx]

Americans with Europe are trying to get Russia to recognize power in Kiev at any cost. We will introduce troops, we will not introduce until we recognize the junta, we are to blame. They expect that Russia, like the miner who worked during the Maidan, and now has to give part of his salary to restore Kiev, will fork out to help "Square" and still kiss the handle to Obama from the barracks for the honor.

[andj61]

The only thing that could justify the introduction of Russian peacekeepers was the mass death of civilians. But after all, what happened - this is the mass death of civilians!
For the Americans, if the situation in Ukraine does not resolve in their favor, we will still be to blame, all the same they will continue to play with sanctions. Therefore, their opinion should not care and help people. We do not need the territory, but we are OBLIGED to protect our people.
The people will not understand the non-interference in such circumstances.

[Vorodis_vA]

everything was fine in Crimea for two reasons - full support of the population plus Ukraine’s fear for the south-east, they had no time for Crimea, it was necessary to keep the rest of the regions.

[Setrac]

Quote: Corsair

Crimea "let's take it in brackets" ...

And what to take him as a parenthesis? Crimea immediately said - to Russia and no nails, and immediately received help, the East and South of Ukraine hesitates, independence, federalization, how Russia can help if they themselves can not decide.
Bandera won no doubt-wet Russian and that's it.

[tds-8_78]

Orcs are gaining strength

[Deadmen]

but with us the same white magician.

[Name]

Quote: Shurik

The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.

NOT; WAKES UP. As if on a chain, and here we are not controlling ... This is not a monkey for you.

[builder]

Yesterday in Odessa, a crowd of brutal youngsters burned people alive. Was Putin personally supposed to fly there to stop the riots? The entire Maidan stayed at home while a bunch of Natsiks raped the country .... the miners were afraid of losing their job .... now they are on strike to raise their salaries. You are Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians overslept your country, not Putin.
It's like your wife is being raped in your house, your old people and children are being killed, and you go to work all the time and scold your neighbor - he is in no hurry to help.
Putin will send troops when there is no other way out; he has great responsibility for his country and his citizens. We cannot know everything that our government is doing (not everything is shown on TV). Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot

[Maximus13]

I agree completely. Most of the people sit at home and do not want anything. You can’t force them to be free. Miners are only worried about salaries, in which country they seem to live anyway. 4-5 thousand militias per 8 million people? Where to send troops? Whom to support? Everyone is happy apparently. Putin’s hands are tied.

[kush62]

builder. Very well and correctly said. What to shout at Russia. Raise the people of Ukraine.

[not main]

Quote: stroitel

Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot

Not in the eyebrow but in the eye! Very sure!

[Gloria45]

Quote: MIKHAN

Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

“The Russian side proposed to agree on the theses for the press, but the delegations of Western countries began to amend and failed to reach agreement,” said a source quoted by RIA Novosti.

The State Department itself has so far refrained from commenting on the attack of “young Ukrainian democracy” on its own citizens. But European diplomacy gave its assessment. “The state’s monopoly on the use of violence must be respected in Ukraine,” ITAR-TASS reports, said Maya Kosyanchich, spokeswoman for the High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton. We will not sin against the truth, if the position of Baroness Ashton herself is the same.

From yesterday's media news in France:
In the riots taking place in the southeast Ukraine (Attention follows the apotheosis of lies !!!) Russian tourists are to blame, who are only busy with
what provoke local residents to conflict. Provocations consist of throwing stones and injections of umbrellas !!!!
Such news or the like is highly recommended by the Department of State throughout Europe.
In a word, the information war has entered the most active phase.

Ukraine: US Department of State Releases European Editorial Anti-Russian Arguments
This is the largest propaganda operation since the Libyan war. Radio London is now in Moscow!

The US State Department prepared and disseminated the argument, disputing Russia's position in Ukraine after the April 12 uprising, in which a military-pro-Russian station seized government buildings in the east.

This is the second time since the onset of the crisis that the State Department is sending an argument against Russia to the media.

If Washington can stop coaching pro-Russian forces by Russian agents, the rest of its arguments is to believe that there are no Nazis in the Ukrainian government and Nazi organizations do not exclude their law on the streets of Kiev.
Revised click
May 2, 2014 USA propaganda, Ukraine
http://croah.fr/revue-de-presse/ukraine-le-departement-detat-americain-a-diffuse
-aux-redactions-europeennes-un-argumentaire-anti-russe /


The US State Department has circulated its arguments about the crisis in Ukraine throughout the European and Atlantic press. It is this argument that all this is supposedly "free" press again from a few days to disqualify and systematically discredit the Russian point of view.

said Obama, speaking at the White House with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

“So for the German audience, which probably includes Russian television, I would simply advise focusing on the facts and on what is happening on the ground,” he added.

[MG42]

Is it time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, ensuring his safety?
Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

[Deniska999]

And what, as one of the options, even not bad. Under the Constitution of Ukraine, he remains the legal president.

[Corsair]

Quote: MG42

Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

He already did it. See the date.

Putin received a written request from Yanukovych to use the Russian army in Ukraine
He said this during a meeting of the UN Security Council, which is broadcast on the Internet.

He demonstrated the letter of Yanukovych, who in Russia is considered the legitimate President of Ukraine from March 1 with the corresponding appeal. In the letter, Yanukovych claims that Ukraine seized power and Ukraine allegedly found itself on the verge of a civil war, and that chaos and anarchy reign in Ukraine. It is also said that supposedly life and security, the rights of people in the Southeast and the Crimea are at risk, people are being persecuted for political and linguistic grounds.

"In this regard, I appeal to Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin with a request to use the armed forces of the Russian Federation to restore legality, peace, law and order, stability, and protect the population of Ukraine. Viktor Yanukovych, March 1, 2014," he quoted Yanukovych as saying legitimacy as a head of state.

Further, the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation showed the UN Security Council members a photocopy of the original appeal of Yanukovych to Putin.

http://www.unian.net/

[MG42]

He asked from Rostov ?, another matter, for example, from Donetsk, especially against the background of yesterday’s events in Odessa, everyone here still didn’t realize what happened simply, TVRO twisted the information as an accident people suffered.

[Corsair]

Quote: MG42

UkroTV twist Old as an accident people suffered.

If territory U a bunch of zombies, then this "twisting" will suit everyone ...

[ultra]

Quote: MG42

It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass,

He is a coward and you can send him to Ukraine only by force, he will not go voluntarily.

[Aleksandr65]

It’s time for him to go to Donetsk if he refuses to give him a scythe

[mig31]

Weapons, of course, are necessary, but human support is even more needed — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers, for starters ....

[Olegovi4]

Quote: mig31

need human support — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers,

Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!

[shurik]

Miners dig even deeper to their did not get it. MOLE.

[Associate Professor]

Quote: Olegovi4

where are those miners?

Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise

[Beon]

Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise

So whoever picks it up for them? Are they going to live in which country? Or does it matter to them, are the fascists not fascists, just to raise them? Help Russia, but I’m going to work for now. It’s about as if bandits broke into your house, they raped your wife, but you, well, it's time for me to go to work, I'll ask you along the way of a neighbor, let him come in and help! You can help someone who helps himself!

[siberalt]

Dig do not dig - all the same there will be no salary. While there is something to live on, we must make our way to Kharkov, and capture airfields. And so, by the summer a mass exodus to Russia will begin.

[leks]

Quote: MG42

It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

Forget Yanukovych, he will not return to Ukraine, he is no one, and he himself understands perfectly.
As for asking him to officially help Russia as a legitimate president, he can do it, but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

[MG42]

Quote: leks

but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting

[dojjdik]

now only the casting of specialists into the Kiev region and the arrest (destruction) of the puppet government of Ukraine; tomorrow it may be too late; -weapons are already full

[stas7]

You can’t introduce the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. But you need help with weapons. Food and so on.

[zavesa01]

Unfortunately, the civil war in Ukraine has begun. If Russia does not help, then Donbas will definitely lose it.

[kaa_andrey]

Donbas will not lose if the people unite, and will not sit in holes. The lack of a single center for coordination of resistance makes it stupid and bloody. Squeezed one by one.
The junta got stuck in a clash near Slavyansk. We need strikes at their rear from Lugansk, Donetsk, and Kharkov. We need a blow to Raisins - the supply center of their group.

[Tektor]

Perhaps, a massive night raid of the Night Hunters is needed to clear all the surroundings of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk with one blow ...

[leks]

Quote: JoylyRoger

And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).

Somehow he listened to the radio to conduct FM. The program is being conducted by Vladimir Solovyov, and so he asked if you were willing to volunteer to fight in Ukraine on the side of the Donbass in about 15 minutes, about half a thousand messages were received with positive answers !!!
So those who wish as you said will be enough !!!

[Foxbed]

Quote: MG42

It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....

[Gray 43]

I still don’t believe that these Kiev impostors started a civil war. Odessa is covered in blood, but the West is satisfied, democracy is saved, so isn't it time to start saving people from the blockade? Even if the city is not taken by the punishers, there will be no normal life, the PSs will also abduct people, arrange provocations and sabotage, or even terrorist attacks, there will also be no supplies of food, medicines, something like the blockade of Leningrad. Putin is a wise man, trying to keep everything according to the laws, knowing that the entire "world community" wanted to blow their nose at them, now they can't wait to unleash a war between Ukraine and Russia.

[stas7]

Remember Spain, you need to create a brigade.

[zavesa01]

How it all ended in Spain do not remember?

[Corsair]

Quote: zavesa01

How it all ended in Spain do not remember?

But do you recall how far Spain was from the USSR, and did it directly threaten the existence of the USSR?

[Dubox]

I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.

[foma2028]

I wonder how Yanukovych feels?
Russian piece of bread climbs his throat or what?
after all, at some period in a few days it was possible to disperse the Bandera maydaunov.

Even in childhood, in a conversation between parents and a neighbor, I heard a new word - Bandera.
He asked who they were.
They said that this is not human, worse than animals and fascists.
And many years later, these words are confirmed

and the Americans are even worse and Bandera

[Elle-elle]

His silence at such a moment does not fit into his head so much that there is a growing feeling that he is simply not alive. Otherwise, the brain refuses to believe in the ongoing inaction of this president, so to speak.

[Prapor Afonya]

The spetsnaz of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was created to work in the deep rear of the enemy, committing sabotage, destroying the leadership of the authorities, creating revolutions, educating guerrilla warriors about citizens and remaining unnoticed! Guys, please work for the good of the Russians! Make Ukraine a normal state again!

[zavesa01]

And who will they be there? Russia will be unambiguously accused, each volunteer will be referred to as "Moscow agent". Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry. To accuse the junta of destroying the Russian-speaking, he will apply with a proposal to introduce peacekeepers. The rest is unacceptable. Or does someone want a world mess?

[VAF]

Quote: zavesa01

Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry

Yah? Yes, they "put" EVERYTHING on both the Foreign Ministry and US ... "with a large device"!

I hope why .. no need to explain?

[Native grandfather]

Quote: zavesa01

And who will they be there? Russia will be unambiguously accused, each volunteer will be referred to as "Moscow agent".

Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest. (with)

[maxxdesign]

these and so they say it! they even shout! ... well, it’s necessary to justify these words ... let them feel the difference ... when there are no special services and when they are there.

[kare]

Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry.

The words and statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are listened to if and only if there is force behind the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and constantly plays with a brush and dumb reproach
From time to time as if asking How much, how much?
If the constant interaction of a kind word and a cyst is interrupted for some unknown reason, then
Pin-up dos immediately sit on the neck, and begin to crap on our heads

[avia1991]

S.RALI EVERYTHING in the West to our Foreign Ministry and its statements! How many times do you need to verify this? States rule! And you need to talk with them only by force, and not in the language of international legal norms, which they themselves came up with in order to feel freer!

[sniper]

Quote: avia1991

And you need to talk to them only by force,

Quite right ... Only even the Union had this power not enough, and Russia was not as strong as the Union was ... Alas ...

[taseka]

Well, if we help Libya and Syria with weapons, then why are you shy of the poop west that hungers for our blood !!!

[leks]

Quote: Foxbed

Quote: MG42

It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....

You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbas, for them he is a traitor for all, so many innocent people have died over the past few months, and why? all because at the most crucial moment, Yanuk fell out of the old for fear of his own skin.
Why then did he not give the order to disperse the Euromaidan? but because he was threatened by the West that he would freeze all his accounts and his family would be left without money, and he himself would become a persona non grata.
Only in the end, his accounts were frozen now, he is not a retired ex-politician, but for the fact that he played the right moment in point, his former country is almost covered by a civil war.

[MG42]

Quote: leks

You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass for them for all he is a traitor

Who told you that?
Yes, there are many angry at Yanukovych, including myself, but there are no other options. The junta went out of control.
It will be necessary and the portraits of Yanukovych will again be at anti-Maidan rallies.
There is also a referendum option, but a failure in advance since it can be conducted as an ALL-UKRAINIAN ADVISORY survey, the outcome is clear.

[Stanislas]

Quote: leks

he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass

Yanukovych does not need to lead anyone. His very presence there will significantly add to the legitimacy of the army of the Southeast in the eyes of the inhabitants throughout the world. This is all that is required of him today to increase Russia's activity in this region. These are the laws of the genre of information warfare.

[drujba]

Everyone probably already has blood boiling inside and my hands itch. But Putin is silent, I certainly believe in his rationality and decisiveness, but he would sooner decide to act.

[Onotollah]

Quote: drujba

And Putin is silent

So with Syria, he was silent for a long time. Remember, many have already started shouting "Putin surrendered Syria11".
And then he threw the Americans through the hunker as the last suckers.
He has more info anyway than ours, here you need to think, take it.
Demand is with us - a ban in the worst case, and the whole country can answer for its shoals.
You can't be wrong.

[evgenii]

buddy, I understand you .. I think VV Putin has not yet said his word .. He will say .. only how many men will die before this ....

[delfinN]

Unidentified "twenty-fives" must periodically work on clusters of national pravoseks. Estessno provide a no-fly zone from the bitchy ukropitek "aces" and REBovtsev.

[hunter]

No need to spend our aviation on trifles, the main goal of our Air Force in this region is Amer’s ships in the Black Sea.
besides Washington should be destroyed.

[Igarr]

TODHANTER ... I liked the comment.
I forgot to add ... - I think ....
or in my opinion ....- Washington should be destroyed.
Definitely.
Knowledge of Roman journalism ... good deed.
Although, I think .... there was no Ancient Rome.
This is the legacy of the Venetian and Genoese republics.

[Tartary]

Stopudov, Rome were invented by the Anglo-Saxons in order to exalt their importance in a certain struggle against a fictitious and powerful enemy ...
And in Italy Etruscans were the coolest!

[zavesa01]

Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

[igor06161]

Yes, and huh ... th on them !!! so everything will hang on us !!!

[voadmin]

I agree completely, they hanged and accused us of the situation in Ukraine. All these puppet organizations like the UN and the OSCE are bullshit! It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!

[Tartary]

Quote: voadmin

It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!

"In a hurry, you will make people laugh" - Russian folk wisdom ...

[reservev18reg]

I COMPLETELY AGREE. for a long time everything is a foregone conclusion. what is the use of Churkin and Lavrov stupidly wasting time on truthful BUT meaningless speeches. Even if the troops of the Russian Federation introduce / do not introduce their reaction alone. Russia says the aggressor and we are right in spite of everything. Already a pity is the only event that this could happen in fraternal Ukraine. If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops. Unfortunately, our situation is complicated BUT I think that the GDP as always has a plan for this ...

In conclusion, I will say one thing: RUSSIAN SPIRIT DO NOT BREAK. ONLY IN DIFFICULT MINUTES WE CAN COMBINE AND PUT A MIGHTY BLOW. WHO came to us with a sword ... AND WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

[Tartary]

Quote: rezerv18reg

If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops.

They have 20 "geese" there without a trace (?) Disappeared ...))

So what?

[Little Muck]

Quote: zavesa01

All dogs will be hanged on us.

They will not hang us, but we will hang all the dogs.
And that you are so afraid and look back. I don’t think that every gopot thinks about us.

[Native grandfather]

Quote: zavesa01

Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

Come on. They (dogs) have long been all hung on us. Che, bzdim from America? !!! Maybe enough already Obama and Merkel look back! Is it time to scold them already to bruises? What are we losing?

[ultra]

Quote: zavesa01

when Russia openly engages in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

They will hang them (already hung), anyway!

[MBA78]

to decapitate the junta is possible only when its cup is full of evil ... so it was WWII

[Belarus]

And you understand when in any scenario, Russia was already there anyway and will be to blame. The only question is how much people will die in Ukraine, while Russia moves from words to action.

[yur]

Quote: zavesa01

Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

You, dear, follow the world news or not? All these UN, OSCE, USA, EU and SO blame us for all sins. The UN Security Council has just supported the junta in the killings in the East and in Odessa - the state, you see, has the right, but they don’t see the leaders of this state as gangsters and fascists! Enough! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid.

[sniper]

Quote: yur

! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid.

Yes, it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...

[yur]

Quote: sniper

But it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ..

Yes, I understand, and I don’t at all insist on the immediate deployment of our troops to Ukraine, BUT ... It is necessary to clearly, clearly and understandably tell everyone that Ukraine is a zone of our priority interests, that we will not tolerate an anti-Russian government there even in the first steps of entry we will respond to NATO accordingly. And then we are only talking about violations of the rights of citizens of Ukraine. Yes, it is necessary to speak and defend their rights, but priority should be given to the rights of Russian citizens and the interests of the Russian Federation. Up to..

[sniper]

Quote: yur

Yes, I understand, and I do not insist on the immediate entry of our troops into Ukraine, BUT ...

Yes, hell knows what is right in this situation and what is not .... That anger strangles us from our own powerlessness, and we have information with a gulkin nose ... My soul hurts ...

[DanSabaka]

They will call. But you can not send troops, but send advisers and instructors. More with weapons.

[sniper]

Quote: DanSabaka

, and send advisers and instructors.

It seems to me that MANPADS will be more complicated than AKs, and in hunting stores they are unlikely to be bought, but there are no three turntables ...

[Igarr]

Snipe ...
and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.
The degree of affordability has recently fallen very low.
No one will be horrified ... victims of repression.
If properly filed all this in the press.
...
It’s become a veritable poet .... repression-aggression-presii ...
...
Kazlov must be wet.
Definitely.
Regardless of age.
I think so.

[sniper]

Quote: Igarr

and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.

I am afraid that there will be too many of these .... Almost the entire population of Ukraine, minus those who are now on the barricades, and there are only a few thousand ... It all hurts ...

[avia1991]

Quote: sniper

I'm afraid there will be too many of these

But don’t be afraid, sniper: they won’t be outraged against the junta now, she’s dear, of course, but the main thing is who the power is. So they are more likely to be afraid to oppose us - as they are now afraid to oppose them.

[sniper]

Quote: avia1991

And don’t be afraid

It’s necessary ... And to be afraid and think ... This is not chess, millions of lives are at stake here, and in case of an error, you won’t be able to replay ...

[denort]

in the southeast, there are very few traitors, one or two have miscalculated. it's just that people are afraid to go against the junta without weapons - this is certain death. not everyone has so much courage; people cannot be blamed for this.

but anger in Russia is increasing - that does not intervene and threw Ukraine to the mercy of the fascists and the Americans. all the writers on the forum - imagine that armed groups of fascists would roam around Moscow, would you oppose them without weapons? think carefully about it ... (knowing that, for example, Putin fled to China, there are no police, the troops are neutral).

if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth. Yes, it can reach the third world war. but that would be honest, because now many people don’t understand what’s going on — some kind of undercover mouse fuss with obscure goals and meanings. people want the certainty of the enemy during World War II.

[Setrac]

Quote: denort

if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth.

If you have been undeservedly accused, then you have to come and earn.

[Onotollah]

Quote: Igarr

and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.

This is the stumbling block.
How many are those who are against Russia, how many are those who have their heads washed by propaganda?
50 percent? Is that about 20 million?
Wow camp dust. Here you need to think how to solve the issue.
To introduce troops is a major civil war with the possibility of transitioning into a world war, and not to enter - it is already a civil war.

[Corsair]

Quote: sniper

It’s all about the UKRAINIANS; if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...

And after what happened in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Odessa, how many people want to feel like Ukrainians?

[sniper]

Quote: Corsair

, how many want to feel like Ukrainians?

I don’t know, brother ... There is no information, everything is shitty there ...

[Tartary]

They (dogs) are already hanging on to us ... But, "hurry up slowly" ...

"Big giraffe - he knows better" ...

However, the warrior must be kept at arm's length or in any case always in the pocket ... Which I have been doing for a relatively long time.

[leks]

Quote: MG42

Quote: leks

but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting

This is the current government of Kiev for us and no one calls them, but for all Western politicians and rulers they are the democratic transitional government of Ukraine and this clique takes advantage of the fact that they are supported in the west.
Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
This is a concrete junta green light.

[MG42]

Quote: leks

Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
This is a concrete junta green light.

Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.

[zveroboy61]

The UN and other organizations are for the West, for us it is Rosiyu. Dot.

[zavesa01]

I did not fully believe that the army would open fire on the civilian population. Apparently "an army outside politics" is not about the Ukrainian Armed Forces. How then these "soldiers" will look into the eyes of their people. This is a trash.

[Himalayan]

Enough self-deception. Those who listen to the orders of Turchinov-Nalyvaychenko and paid officers are the army of the junta, not the people
---
Enough of Odessa to understand that the population (not the people) does not support the fight against the junta

[zavesa01]

Donetsk still has a chance to announce separation, to mobilize. It is not too late to answer force by force. Otherwise, everything is lost.

[Kibalchish]

It's time to start. That's just Deleted. Moderator Sniper. In any case, we will be bad for them simply because we exist.

[bars280]

Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!

[MG42]

They just said on Channel 5 that the militias in Slavyansk asked the advancing troops for negotiations, but Avakov has not agreed yet, although this is the PAroshenkovsky channel, Svidomo.

[igorek45]

[quote] There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war. [/ quote]
And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?
[quote] but then it will be a real war. [/ quote] [/ quote]
And what is happening in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk is not a real war ..? Or do you think this is a toy war ..?

[Corsair]

Quote: igorek45

Or do you think that the weapons of the First World War (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

I will not talk for a long time about the relevance in modern conditions of the Mosin rifle in relation to an airplane (not an armored helicopter) and lightly armored vehicles when firing reinforced armor-piercing cartridges ...

[voadmin]

GDP is time to stop chewing snot and pain in organizations of hypocrites. Once he promised to defend, so let him take real steps to protect him, and not hide behind the talkers!

[Egoza]

From the blog of L. Vershinin ...
Bolotov rents Lugansk. Julia bought it

"And in Lugansk, - unfortunately, this is so, - Valery Bolotov rents the town of Matka. For money."

Here are the "heroes of Lugansk" .... for the loot, if it's big, you can sell ... people.
Apparently your "unofficial" coal business ... closer to the body.
xxx

XXXX
Now.

First.
To everyone who reads: rallies ended, crowds ended, negotiations ended.
The time has come for dozens and fives who will kill this foul; everyone who is not ready needs to step aside.
And those who are ready, get ready.

Second.
The four scum who are personally responsible for today's massacre in Odessa:
Andrey Yusov
Vova Nemirovsky,
Bene Kolomoisky
and another freak.

You burned 38 people alive to make Hurwitz the mayor.
Calmly burned.
All right.
Get to you.
Together with the spawn.
No matter where the spawn is hiding, even in Haifa, even in the Innere Stadt, on the Universitetshtrasse (I understand, yes?).
This is not my tantrum, so people decided.
And I am pleased to know that.

[vlum]

"passes" - the past tense has not yet been set.

And the fighters do not like the fact of some kind of negotiations by the junta ... And this attitude is absolutely logical.

In general, so as not to write too much, we'll see and see. There, in the messages themselves, they speak of some ultimatums. So it will be necessary to wait for new information.

ps I personally also don’t like attempts at negotiations, because it all smells really bad.

[calocha]

Let Mozgovoy take Lugansk into his own hands!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Bandera had fun ... Now they are celebrating "victory" .... Beasts!

[igordok]

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[T-73]

Yes, such lovely girls. What do they believe in killing people?

[leks]

Quote: MG42

Quote: leks

Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
This is a concrete junta green light.

Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.

This law is no longer important, and what's the difference already, will they leave the CIS or not, now in Ukraine such a batch has begun, the world will no longer be there.
By the way, at the expense of sanctions against Russia, I’m sure they will be introduced in any case, that is, the third package, we will be made extreme in this story, the Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them, now is the perfect time to undermine us economically, and what top politicians say there about the undesirability of such measures, this lie will be introduced even if it affects them.

[MG42]

Quote: leks

Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them now is the perfect moment

a bit about the economy.
1. Crimea without drinking water, lack of electricity.
2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.
3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??
4. Military-industrial complex and heavy engineering in eastern Ukraine focused on the Russian Federation?
5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.
etc.

[badger1974]

Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea
1. we have enough drinking water, irrigation, there is some problem, but the private trader has long switched to drip irrigation from his own wells, by and large the water was discharged into the drainage and went to Sivash, because of which it was desalinated, the electric gas generators can cope shortage of watts in the network, and on our Crimean gas
2 bridge, so it has long been needed. and it would have been built 20 years ago, Kiev constantly put sticks in wheels
3.from ABM- by installing the Triumphs on Cape Aya well, actually the over-the-horizon radars for eggs, you can hold everything that is NATO on the Black Sea
4. there will be no blackmail - in the course of the lack of power of the kiwi they will carry out a reverse from Europedia, so that payment for gas will be a European smut
In short, everything is like nothing to the best

[T-73]

Quote: badger1974

Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea

Pull out the defense industry, a matter of time. There is no irreplaceable heavyweight on Ukrin. Rather, the pipe distribution had in mind, but its replacement has already occurred in Russia. There are specific products, including for nuclear power plants, but that ... how to say, Turboatom has worked out its own. We set our turbines now, the old Kharkov ones will be finalized and at rest. That's the whole heavy work for them. Of Ukraine

[Egoza]

According to some reports, the Bandera massacre who plunged into the train are going to Kharkov, where they intend to repeat this tomorrow.
And at the same time ...

Network...
Excuse me guys, I'm writing from the LEFT PAGE! WE Contractors of military unit 3039 (the BB or the national guard as we were renamed after the fucking Maidan) in connection with the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE are asking you to block a part (Kosior 2a address of Nikolaev) WE are tired of this whim US, like Berkut betrayed in Kiev, they will also betray US NOW! BB and Golden Eagle with the people!
xxxxx
This is a CONTRACTOR! And they have weapons! But they ask the "conscious" ones to block some of them! But in fact, stand together with the people ...
So what can be demanded from ordinary, peaceful people who are simply not psychologically ready, do not understand how their own people who live nearby, go and kill, burn, scoff !!!
Where they understood, they are fighting, troops are being thrown at them. But how long will this psychological shock last for the rest? Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?

[boozer]

By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow? What kind of football is this? Feast during the plague straight!

[Anper]

Quote: boozer

By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow?

Recall that the Cup final will take place on May 15. (in KHARKIV) In the semifinals, which will be played on May 7, Kyiv Dynamo and Odessa Chernomorets, Cherkasy Slavutich and Donetsk Shakhtar will meet.

[avia1991]

Quote: Egoza

Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?

Probably so. It still seems to the miners that they are deep and will not touch them.

[evgenii]

How many more people should die while ours are watching ...

[Klim]

It is necessary to introduce not only the southeast but the whole territory, and most importantly, so that the junta with its accomplices does not run away abroad, they must be tried.

[Dobkin]

yes, the wrong country was called Ganduras

[Corsair]

The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May (updated)

Where is the UPDATE, where is the information? In Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in 00.43 Moscow time it all ended?

[Earnest]

1.

Quote: igorek45

And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

You can, and - great. The cartridges are only fresher, so that due to misfires and protracted shots in the battle there would be no problems
If there are PTRD and PTRS, you can order a requiem for crews of armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns and self-propelled guns and helicopters immediately after starting the engine, and the calculation is easier to train than firing from a grenade launcher, everything is at the instinct level of a karamultuk arrow.
2.

Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!

WE Contractors of the military unit 3039 (BB or nat. Guard as we were renamed after a fucking Maidan) due to the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE ask you to block a part (the address of Kosior 2 in Nikolaev)

Therefore, troops cannot be brought in, which (I quote): "A revolution is only worth something when it is capable of defending itself." Why do PSs take weapons where they find them, kill whoever they want and when they want? That's when the news will show that: "The Armed Forces of the Donetsk People's Republic burned the junta's convoy on the march, not a single fascist from the National Guard battalion survived," then I will agree that resistance has begun.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Maybe someone will come in handy (who is at the forefront) Hold on there
vk.com/rufront Russian front
I’m a military man myself and I want to give advice to people who stop the equipment with a human shield ... you can stand, lie in front of them, but this will not help, you cannot stop them if they really receive an order to break through (and as we know they already received it) , you cannot disable the equipment, but you can harm them ... So:
1.If you come close to the technique, take a spray of the most resistant paint and paint over the triplex (devices for driving, aiming, shooting, adjustments) This will blind the car ... try to pull out or break the antenna, so the car will not be able to "speak and listen "! And you won't get far without communication!
2. Paint one headlight on the car - it will work like a friend or foe system. If a car with one headlight approaches a checkpoint or a strong point, then you can safely work to defeat! ! I saw that there are grenade launchers and anti-tank weapons! I saw a car with one headlight or a column - work to kill first, otherwise they will destroy you!
3. Phosphor paint - allows you to detect the car even if it goes with full blackout at night! They took a condom or balloon and threw it into the car!

[vvvvv]

I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.
Around damn balabol ... All speakers somewhere in Russia are only balabolit what bad Kiev authorities, nat. Guard and PS. Kill and kill. And they are trying to impress someone with this ?! And Yarosh is at the forefront, and mercenaries, and the right sector, and anyone. Most Ukrainians are intimidated and afraid to intervene, to participate, because they see that Russia does not support pro-Russian activists in any way.

[saag]

Quote: MG42

3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??

Tu22M3 regiment in the Guards in the Crimea

Quote: MG42

1. Crimea without drinking water,

with drinking, it’s with irrigation strain and then temporary

Quote: MG42

2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.

they were going to build it

Quote: MG42

5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.

can a pendell from Europe wait for such an initiative

[kodxnumx]

I am sure that the GDP will not include the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to go, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all of Ukraine from this scum, where the army and special subdivisions of the eye follow them it does not hide.

[vvvvv]

What "army and special units" ?! All special forces disloyal to the Kiwi junta have been cleaned up and active members of the Right Sector, etc., are everywhere in key posts. structures.
Most are enough to intimidate and force to carry out orders.
And all this peaceful idiocy like the Kulikovo Pole camps and rallies is the delirium of the naive and fools. Only forceful measures can be taken. And Right Sector demonstrated this first in Kiev, and now throughout Ukraine. This does not reach Russia and the pro-Russian forces. We only need a forceful seizure of key facilities and key posts, power structures, so that the pro-Russian forces are legalized. Instead, the Sector Right dresses its fighters in the clothes of football fans, police, army, etc.
And pro-Russian activists are stupidly substituted, leading to some stupid and bespontovy rallies with silly chants ... It’s disgusting, disgusting and humiliating. That is why I did not participate and would not participate in any such events led by oligophrenics, at which you will simply be maimed or killed. Only weapons and the ability to defend themselves, only radical force measures and, if you like, the threat of nuclear weapons to the west. In the meantime, there is an empty balabolstvo due to the blood of those who trust and hope for Russia.
The very first Russian killed anywhere in the world should be followed by a rocket attack of retaliation, and so that every military unit in the world knows about such consequences. Something like Israel or the United States do. After all, if the United States were in place of Russia and if US citizens died, then Tomahawks would already be flying. We are being killed, they are waging various kinds of terror against Russia, and in response, only admonitions. International law does not work, the United States and the West do not listen to diplomacy, they only respect force.

[Tartary]

Quote: kod3001

I am sure that the GDP will not turn on the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to wait, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all Ukraine from this scum

Stopudov will not turn on! Just do not bite yourself and others from the inside ... We are waiting, sir ...

Putin is not God ...
But God rules Russia directly ...
However, “trust in God, but don’t make a mistake yourself” is a popular Russian wisdom. (almost from the words of Suvorov)

[Sib. Uralets]

Now you can’t do anything with half measures. Just sticks against weapons are no good. Russia must provide all the militias with the most modern weapons. I mean rifle, grenade launchers, MANPADS and soak them. That there would be no shortage of anything. And of course you can’t do without volunteers

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: vvvvv

I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.

Patience brother .. (also such a feeling and anger) We can’t be wrong now ..

[vvvvv]

I understand. But, explain to me how this could have happened to the Kulikovo Pole camp ?!
Didn’t know that the militants are gathering and preparing ?! And before, it was also in Kharkov and Donetsk! This is a complete doctorate of ldbdhp (I can not express myself otherwise) - neither mind nor imagination, just one setup and betrayal. Under current conditions, activists should be armed with firearms - ideally, but at least with a pitchfork, etc. And shoot to kill when trying to disarm them by someone. But the Right Sector and many who have long openly called for arming their supporters. Yes, and many are already armed. There should be military units in Donetsk - this is at least. Then Kiev will not have enough army forces to arrange ATO everywhere. And after all, in Kramatorsk, Slavyansk there are even fewer deaths, because people are armed.
And there is the question of proactive measures ... It seems that there is no strategy, not even tactics. There is much to argue about, but unarmed people are notorious victims.

[Egoza]

Quote: vvvvv

how could something like this happen to the Kulikovo Pole camp ?!

So people always walk on Kulikovo in May .... Is it possible to immediately distinguish who is where, and the fight started on the street first, and then it moved to Kulikovo! And here's another ...

UPD.2 House of Trade Unions.
1. He had police protection, until May 1. Removed under the pretext of holidays. But they didn’t clean it for Easter. There are 3 guards left.
2. All the entrances to the building were hacked, and outside.
3. Sleeves from Kalash and 9mm combat inside the building, the direction of fire - in depth.

4. Fires on the 2nd and 4th floors, a picture - several corpses burned in one office and fragments from several bottles are in the same place.

5. Tracks are destroying right now.

6. A criminal case is opened against the head.

And probably explains a lot!

Zapadentsev squeeze out "Seventh" to feed. This is the price they demanded for the pacification of Odessa.
The seventh is already on fire. Militants set fire to containers.
About two thousand inhabitants of Odessa are sent to the Central Internal Affairs Directorate on Preobrazhenskaya.

[Moldovan]

Remember the story of Yanukovych. He did not want to use force because he was afraid of the wrath of Europe and America, and no matter what was later said that he had his hands in the blood. Remember Milosevic, remember the rest. He was afraid to lose his place and his money and lost everything, he was still hanged on him all those killed on the Maidan. Therefore, Russia will enter its troops or not, it is not at all important for Europe and America. In any case, all those killed in Ukraine will be hanged on Russia and all will impose sanctions against Russia. There will be no sanctions in only one case. If Russia ceases to exist and gives its people to the slaughter of America. Russia would have entered the troops 100 times. Do not enter not because they are afraid of America or the EU. There are other reasons that lie in the warped, raped by American ideology consciousness of a large part of the Ukrainian people. A huge problem is the separation of grains from the chaff. About half of the Ukrainian people are Russians with an unbroken psyche and consciousness, the consciousness of the other half of the Ukrainian people is distorted and destroyed to such an extent that they cannot be counted on to cure, which means these two groups of Ukrainians cannot live together on the same territory. Serious migration programs from west to east and from east to west will be needed. Otherwise, there will be a complete destruction of the population of Ukraine

[Dreamer]

and new disasters like the Korean ferry and the Chinese Boeing await the world community ...

[saag]

Quote: Sib. Uralets

Russia must provide all militias with the most modern weapons

If these militias cannot take what they have under their feet the point of supplying them with the same thing, then suddenly they will not be able to use it?

[Vorodis_vA]

the most important thing is to think over the economic situation, crush the economy. Russia has such opportunities. To put pressure on the countries of the post-Soviet space. Up to the full economic blockade of Lithuania, Latvia and other henchmen. To the maximum pressure on the Ukrainian oligarchs, one way or another they are dependent. Press without a public announcement, but only in those areas where we do not lose much. Completely abandon sprats, vegetables and other trash from Europe. Let the economies of several countries collapse. Also, the financial sector, it is necessary to destabilize Cyprus and play with other assets. financial sector, if you can think of it, you can bring down very seriously. The domino principle will work and Europe will shut up.

[INVESTOR]

Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Here's the guys notice the pattern (whose guess yourself): Before the new year (bombings in Volgograd), the Olympics and February 23 (the massacre of Nana Maidan and the coup), Easter (the shooting of the checkpoint in Slavyansk), May 1-2 (assault Slavyansk, mass murders in Odessa ..
Ahead is the main holiday for all of us. 9 MAY VICTORY DAY! It's time to answer .. Beat reptiles in the very heart of Russian and Russia!

[boozer]

Are we ready for War? After all, this is not even Georgia. And what is the opinion of the majority of our, Russian, population? What kind of "pig" will the "fifth column" headed by Makarevich put in? What will NATO's response be if we enter the territory of Ukraine? And there are plenty of such questions. For me personally. I can imagine how many questions and multi-step tasks are now being solved by our Russian government!

[yur]

Quote: boozer

What kind of "pig" will the "fifth column" headed by Makarevich put in?

Well damn it, if I start to be afraid of Makarevich, it would be better not to be born into the white light. Let that column of God pray that we are distracted by events in Ukraine. But soon, and we really pay attention to them, in general, hov, lads.

[nablydatel]

Quote: ultra

Quote: Salamander

.A pair of planes delivers a point strike at the headquarters.

To do this, it is necessary to suppress air defense, which means dozens, if not hundreds, of killed Ukrainian troops! The question is, should we go for it?

А ,что сделал наш самолет, с американским военным кораблём в черном море,
даже америкосы подали в отставку с корабля сбежали.

[Earnest]

Quote: vvvvv

I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!

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gibli.html и прочтите все комменты одессита, проходящего службу в ВСУ, приехавшие на выходные домой, ник - Akim. Его резюме сводится к фразам: "Шло столкновение триколора и украинского флага, а одесситы, в абсолютном большинстве за единую Украину, а не Новороссию" и "Выходные испорчены".
Пока Akim-ы не разделятся по истинным убеждениям и не встанут лицом к лицу так, как писал гениальный вражина Киплинг о Западе и Востоке, ВС РФ там делать нечего.

[delfinN]

да уже молодежь и не знает, и не помнит...

[Com T-64a]

Поставил на "рабочий стол"...

[SPACE]

Quote: Corsair

Where is the expression of this rage?

Ярость затмевает разум

Quote: drujba

но скорей бы уже решил он действовать.

Спешка ведет к ошибкам

З.Ы. Спокойно, всему свое время, что надо, все будет...

[Magadan]

Хватит хаять Путина, Шойгу, Рогозина и других руководителей!!!
Ставки задраны выше небес! Америка так еще никогда с такой полной отмороженностью не дралась за свой гребаный "авторитет". Знаете что сейчас происходит:
Штаты - это как "вор в законе" который чует что его вот-вот не только раскоронуют, но еще и до параши отправят. И ему для поддержания авторитета нужно просто тупо всех запугать.
Вот и льет кровь. При этом идет полный информационный хаос во всем мире про "русских террористов-сепаратистов" сплошь на эмоциях. Про Украину вообще молчу.
В этом хаосе если мы вводим войска- тут же начинается "освободительная война против русских оккупантов".
Меня самого колбасит от злости, но ребят сожженных в Одессе уже не вернуть. Мы за них отомстим. Нацики за все заплатят и не только их руководители а ВСЕ!
Включая их футбольных малолеток.
Глобальный вой вот-вот уляжется. Люди начнут рыть правду где только могут. В том числе американцы, европейцы и т.д. Осознание того, что натворили эти недочеловеки-нацики придет в ближайший день-два.
Что потом? Потом думаю будет нечто похлеще, чем просто Осетинский вариант. Поймите, удар должен быть выверен. Как удар по Мамаевскому войску из засады при Куликовом поле.

[urii]

правильно это не игра на компе.по любому что то решают просто мы не знаем а обратка будет от россии нацикам

[iConst]

Quote: Magadan

Глобальный вой вот-вот уляжется. Люди начнут рыть правду где только могут. В том числе американцы, европейцы и т.д. Осознание того, что натворили эти недочеловеки-нацики придет в ближайший день-два.

Вот сомнения у меня. С Югославией прозрения не случилось. И здесь то же самое - постараются поскорее забыть, будто и не было ничего.

Наиболее вероятные сценарии (ИМХО):
1. Сопротивление не выдержит, в первую очередь из-за неорганизованности.
До сей поры все думали, что не решится хунта. Ошиблись. Войска войдут, войдут правосеки и пойдут "легитимные" процессы против активистов (уже сейчас бьют, а защиты достойной нет).
И все. Народ понуро будет дальше кое-ка жить.

2. События примут затяжной кровавый характер.
И будут введены западные "миротворцы" - по сути, помощники хунты. Финал такой же.

Вероятность того, что Россия что-либо предпримет, типа марша колонны десантников и захват аэропорта Приштины в 1999, практически нулевая.

Сам хочу ошибаться, но повода для оптимизма нет.

[sherman1506]

готова, не готовы надо отвечать сейчас, спасуем сейчас, потом можно будет сдаваться

[Odinger]

Quote: Corsair

The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May (updated)

Where is the UPDATE, where is the information? In Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in 00.43 Moscow time it all ended?

Обновляемая инфа здес. http://vognebroda.net/feed?hub=%D0%9E%D0%BD%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BD

[Deadmen]

кому интересно.Вот ссылка на твиттер одной из чуастниц одесских поджогов там хроника событий.
https://twitter.com/yyasyaa

[Dejavu]

"ВВП сопли жует"

В.В.Путин уже двадцать раз показал, что умеет играть чисто. Если не въезжает танками в Славянск, значит есть на то причины. Если вы полагаете, что тут вопрос в "напал - молодец, не напал - соплежуй", вы глубоко ошибаетесь. Мы и 20% от реального хода вещей не знаем. Одно всем ясно - Россию заманивают на Украину. Это слишком очевидно. Очень хочется размазать правосеков и другую гопоту по асфальту ровным слоем нашими танками, но сначала бить, а потом думать - это как раз не по нашему. Мне кажется Вова планирует организовать объединение ВСЕГО Юго-Востока административно, а потом тупо признает восток целиком в одностороннем порядке, как это было с Ю. Осетией. Сейчас не понять, кого обнять. Одно плохо - люди гибнут, чего пиндocы и добиваются - сволoчи.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Думаю к 9 мая что то произойдет кардинальное..(по СМИ постоянно звучит слово карательные операции хунта фашиствующие молодчики..) ООН ехидно лыбится в лодошку..Обама доволен собой...Путин молчит..Храни Бог Россию!

[Arkan]

Лучшая оборона, это нападение. Юго-Востоку Украины надо активно противодействовать нацистам, наносить упреждающие удары по врагу, нацики по другому не Понимают.

[dedvictor]

Имеем мы,ребята,большой геморой у границ. Воевать нельзя,и не потушишь! Весь мир против нас,не хотят они сильной России,и Крым нам не простят.Остался у нас один рычаг,наш газ. С июня перейдём на предоплату с украми,и введём единые цены на газ в ЕС,вот и пусть Меркель дотирует украинец-ский газ.

[hunter]

Мужики не надо отправлять оружие, войска, добровольцев на Юго-восток Украины, пора переходить к кардинальным действиям - бить по штабам а штаб у хунтят не в Киеве, а в Вашингтоне.
1. Демонстративно вывезти из США все дип. представительства поголовно до уборщицы включительно, включая миссию в ООН.
2. Никак не комментировать действия по пункту.1
3. Нашим союзникам во дип. каналам послать сообщения о небезопасном нахождении их граждан в США.
4. Объявить по РВСН и ПВО готовность №1
После этого смотрим на реакцию в США. Уверен они сами войска пошлют утихомиривать Киевскую хунту.
Если не поможет пункт 5
5. Ядерный удар по Вашингтону и Нью-Йорку

[INVESTOR]

Самоизолиция России цель запада.

[yur]

Quote: INVESTOR

Самоизолиция России цель запада.

Мне 63 года, 41 год из них ( до1992-го) я жил в самоизоляции. Так вот, лучше чем тогда, я не жил. Я себя Человеком чувствовал, а не электоратом, налогоплательщиком и прочей фигнёй. Так что, не всё так страшно.

[INVESTOR]

В нынешних реалиях самоизоляция смерти подобна, то что было раньше хорошо, сейчас не о прошлом, а о будущем думать нужно.

[Counter]

"5.02 мск Чуркин: Россия шокирована благодушием Запада по отношению к действиям киевских властей."

Я конечно не дипломат, но к чему такие заявления??? Ожидалось что-то другое? Я, как обыватель, почему-то СОВСЕМ НЕ шокирован "этим благодушием Запада". Такое впечатление, что МИД сейчас занимается каким-то самообманом! Если таким образом стараются заручиться поддержкой Совбеза ООН, то тональность выбрана явно не та!

[todaygoodday]

Нужно брать в плен бандеровцев, и расстреливать, у стенки, на площадях, публично.

[DanSabaka]

расстреливать? много чести... вешать!

[boozer]

Чет информация не обновляется, уже 11:11 по мск. Что там хоть происходит? Как Славянск? Как Краматорск? Дайте информацию, стримы, текст...

[Deadmen]

все отдыхают не спали ночь.Хунта перегрупировывается.Ополченцы ожидают к вечеру штурма.Пока тишина.

[sniper]

Quote: boozer

Что там хоть происходит?

03.05.2014 11:24, Донецк - В Донецкой области объявлена мобилизация, создается единое народное сопротивление. Об этом заявил комиссар общественно-патриотического движения «Восточный фронт» Николай Солнцев.
«Донецк сегодня мобилизуется, объявлена полная мобилизация. Наши силовые структуры готовы к полномасштабным боевым действиям», - приводит его слова РИА Новости. «Мы будем сегодня людей мобилизовать в единое народное сопротивление, чтобы каждый гражданин города, чтобы каждый гражданин Донбасса встал как один за свою свободу», - отметил комиссар «Восточного фронта».

Source: RT

03.05.2014 11:18, Одесса - Одесса — Сорок два человека погибли в результате беспорядков и пожара в Доме профсоюзов в Одессе, сообщает МВД Украины в субботу.
"В результате столкновений и пожара в Доме профсоюзов на Куликовом поле Одессы, по данным правоохранителей, погибли 42 человека, 125 — получили телесные повреждения и госпитализированы. Среди пострадавших — 21 правоохранитель", — говорится в сообщении.

Source: RIA Novosti

Смотрите обновляемую инфу тут : http://vognebroda.net/feed?hub=%D0%9E%D0%BD%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BD

[Ace in the sleeve]

Я так понял, по Одессе, что всех про-российски настроенных на Украине теперь будут просто убивать. Это было предсказуемо, по большому счету допровоцировывались и доорганизовывались со всеми этими акциями поддержки федерализации на ЮВУ. Уже сам факт что в Одессе 15 россиян погибших и вроде из Приднестровья были люди, говорит о том, кто именно стоит за акциями "За Россию" и пр - отнюдь не местные "патриоты".

Здесь вроде пару недель назад кто то говорил, что доиграетесь, когда русских тупо убивать будут на Украине за то что они русские. Но всем интереснее было орать Ату их, захватим, отделим, мы сила и пр. Ну вот теперь смотрите на результаты.

[yur]

Quote: Ace in the sleeve

Уже сам факт что в Одессе 15 россиян погибших и вроде из Приднестровья были люди, говорит о том, кто именно стоит за акциями "За Россию"

Во-первых, это НЕ факт, а домыслы укросми. Во- вторых, даже если бы это было и так, то что? Почему американцам с их " тёмными водами" можно отстаивать свои интересы на нашей ( да-да, не возмущайтесь) Украине, а России это делать нельзя?
Так что смиритесь, но Россия как играла главную роль на Украине, так и будет продолжать, просто хотя бы потому, что Запад не сможет переселить туда 10 млн немцев или англичан, и сделать родным немецкий или английский язык для 80% населения.

[Ace in the sleeve]

Почему американцам с их " тёмными водами" можно отстаивать свои интересы на нашей ( да-да, не возмущайтесь) Украине, а России это делать нельзя?

Потому что в Сирии или на Украине американцы не живут, они там только рады будут, если все друг друга перережут. Русские там есть - поэтому надо учитывать, что именно они станут жертвой всех "интересов". Поэтому действуя американскими методами, не забывайте, что на Украине есть на ком отыграться. И вчерашняя Одесса это наглядно продемонстрировала - 42 трупа, 176 раненных. Это цена использования американских методов. пре6красная защита русских на Украине, что сказать. Лучше б вы их не защищали - живы бы они остались.

[yur]

Quote: Ace in the sleeve

Это цена использования американских методов. пре6красная защита русских на Украине, что сказать

Дело в том, что Россия как раз не использует американские методы. По их методам оппозиция была бы вооружена до зубов. А так там находились безоружные люди ( среди них много женщин), против которых были применены людоедские фашистские методы.И за жестокое убийство виновные ответят, не сомневайтесь.

[Ace in the sleeve]

Дело в том, что Россия как раз не использует американские методы. По их методам оппозиция была бы вооружена до зубов. А так там находились безоружные люди ( среди них много женщин), против которых были применены людоедские фашистские методы.И за жестокое убийство виновные ответят, не сомневайтесь.

Мы вроде как все сайт читаем и видим что идут БОИ в Славянске, Краматорске, вооружают людей в Луганске и Донецке. Вертолеты сбивают. Если это у вас невооруженная оппозиция, то не знаю, что и сказать.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Что то так должно быть..Путин ты обещал мы ждем!

[hunter]

Quote: Belarus

And you understand when in any scenario, Russia was already there anyway and will be to blame. The only question is how much people will die in Ukraine, while Russia moves from words to action.

totally agree.
но ка кто-то из древних скажу "Карфаген, тфу, Вашингтон, должен быть разрушен!"

[51064]

Quote: Corsair

The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May (updated)

Where is the UPDATE, where is the information? In Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in 00.43 Moscow time it all ended?

Ночь была беспокойной. Стрельба в Краматорске, Славянске. Снайперы, разведка, контрразведка.
Разгромили пару блокпостов в районе Краматорска. В Славянске с утра было почти тихо, редкие перестрелки. Баррикады в основном пустые. Как сейчас развиваются события еще не знаю.
Смотрите http://anti-maidan.com/?attempt=1

[51064]

Утро в Славянске на одном из самых многолюдных мест

[Agent 008]

Уничтожить эту мразь...

[51064]

Из Славянска сообщение:
о ситуации. У нас всё нормально, то что говорят СМИ отчасти правда в рос каналах и полная ложь украинец сми.
Ночью стрельба в районе Андреевки и других блок постов происходила как салют в небо под радостные возгласы мирных жителей.
Напомню факты: Операцию по захвату возглавил сам Ярош, но приказал украинец войскам идти и стрелять. те пришли с стреляли но не в людей а в небо, приказ они выполнили и за это им большая благодарность, они не взяли на себя крови мирных жителей нашего края.
Те бесчинства что творят иностранные наёмники, правосеки, нац гвардия это люди Яроша только эти приехали сюда убивать и убивают.

[boozer]

Кстати да, полно видео где небо все в трассерах. Если так, то не все еще потеряно. Держаться Мужики!

[Mother Theresa]

Никогда не было зазорным учиться у своих врагов. Почему Россия не воспользуется Сирийским сценарием. Захватить несколько населенных пунктов на границе или таможенных постов, направить чрез них подготовленных добровольцев. Организовать на своей территории базы подготовки-лагеря беженцев. Организовать доставку вооружения под видом гуманитарных грузов. Снабжать повстанцев своевременной информацией о передвижение войск, средств радиоэлектронной разведки должно хватить чтоб накрыть всю территорию Украины. И делать потом в ООН невинное лицо как это делает Турция и Иордания.

[Vikmay16]

Вот-вот давно пора! А то Запад славян за людей не считает!

[andj61]

Вот это самое реальное и дельное предложение.

[Counter]

Quote: Ace in the sleeve

Уже сам факт что в Одессе 15 россиян погибших и вроде из Приднестровья были люди, говорит о том...

Это говорит только о том, что укропные СМИ продолжают отжигать на тему "российского вторжения ". МИД России потребовал представить списки этих "погибших россиян", но это требование так и осталось безответным.

[yurik]

Никогда в жизни не думал, что увижу чудовищную Хатынь 2014г. в Одессе. Видимо точка невозврата уже пройдена Украиной, войны не избежать..

[Urri]

А тем временем хунта платит уже правосекам под Славянском по 2-5 тыс. долл. США в день.
Орлам авиации украины после 3-х сбитых Коломойский сулит 200000 (да, двести тысяч долларов США) за результативный вылет с 200-ми на земле Славянска.
И ВСЁ РАВНО ЖЕЛАЮЩИХ НЕТ!
Мёртвому наёмнику деньги не нужны.
Яценюки, Тягнибоки, Яроши давно сосцали и поныкались уже. Кадровый агент ЦРУ Наливайченко руководит сейчас украиной. Это Петлюра 21 века на украинской земле. И тот сцыт дальше, чем видит. Требует предоставить гражданство США своей семье.
Когда утихнет навязанный украине информационный психоз, и поймут, что не только ЕСовцы, но даже русские люди будут с удовлетворением плевать вместо подаяния в протянутую нищенскую бЕндеровскую шляпу, будет, обязательно будет прозрение, а с ним и ненависть. Ко всем, что и есть суть бЕндеровского мировоззрения. Вот только чёрные тени сгоревших заживо в Одессе не дадут забыть и простить, по извечной русской сердобольности, будут стоять вечным памятником долбоебизма свидомых, который находится за гранью даже изуверства.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

То что кровь льется это очередной транш МВФ вчерашний..(и Байден деньги привозил)..Западу Украина не нужна им нужен кровавый хаус ! Это как на Кавказе ..только еще чудовищней и циничней..!

[ALEK7SANDR]

помоему начало наших действий уже видно. экстренное заседание ООН. также было и с Грузией

[jurassic61]

Сегодня в новостях объявлено - отпустят задержанных представителей ОБСЕ, видимо наши будут вводить войска или вежливых человечков.

[Isum]

кому интересно продолжение хроники с 11:10, то можете перейти сюда http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1571115.html

[saag]

Т9 отключите

[ankh-andrej]

And where is that threshold and how many victims are needed to make a decision to prevent bloodshed and provide military assistance? What is the organization of the CSTO? Why not unite at the moment, as NATO is doing? If the nearest allies conditionally say now they are silent in a rag and look from the side, how they are trying to drag Russia into a mess, then what the hell is the CSTO for us? The counterweight must be international. And now we are alone again. Belarus, Kazakhstan, who else is Au ...

[mortido]

Quote: yurik

Никогда в жизни не думал, что увижу чудовищную Хатынь 2014г. в Одессе. Видимо точка невозврата уже пройдена Украиной, войны не избежать..

...ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ ПАВШИМ В НЕРАВНОЙ БИТВЕ ГЕРОЯМ!...

[Prapor-527]

Россия очнись!!! Твоя сестра Украина тонет в крови! Нужно немедленно вводить войска,без оглядки на ЕС и САСШ! В 41-ом боялись провокаций,потом больше года отступали с кошмарными потерями... Войска ждут команды. Со 2-го мая все военнослужащие отозваны из отпусков. Армия в состоянии повышенной боевой готовности...Дайте команду... Посмотрите,что творят фашисты!!! Счет жертв пошел на сотни... Бандеровцы упиваются кровью, и звереют... Нужно сломать им хребет до 9 Мая!!! Введите войска!!!

[I am]

введите войска и утопитесь в крови сами !!! так чтоли??? к большой войне призываешь???? В первых рядах пойдешь ??? Или как???

[Prapor-527]

В первых пойду.А ТЫ За***л???

[Stelth1985]

Согласен. А я предупреждал. Все выгадывают. Цель Запада - война. Стравить нас на Украине. Единственно правильным решением является ввод войск одним ударом до Молдавии. Западу нужно, чтобы Украина была как бы не зависимой, чтобы мы ее не присоединили, но зато влезли и лили кровь. Цель - одним ударом опрокинуть всех тварей. Вернуть Украину в состав. Лишить Запада плацдарма для войны. Но чую, опять польется впустую кровь наших солдат.

[calculator]

Крымчане дошли уже? Тоже натерпятся по дороге похоже ребята... видать так скоро и самому собираться... благо эрдешку еще не разобрал со службы...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Жириновский по России 24 зажигает..Он прав прямым текстом говорит без дипломатических выдрыгонов ! Уже второй раз..(значит что то будет серьезное противодействие..) Ждем..! (окопы копать пока не стоит.)

[SergeyBI]

Ему необходимо в думе потребовать от ВВП действий, а не болтать.
А то он от Беларуссии требует ввести войска, а Путина спросить боится...
http://warfiles.ru/show-54716-zhirinovskiy-belarus-dolzhna-vvesti-voyska-v-ukrai
nu.html

[51064]

Посмотрите, что распространили укроСМИ

[Des10]

Из песни слов не выкинешь - "получил распоряжение"...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Хатынь под 9 мая..! Заживо жгли..

[Gagarin]

Все, игры закончились ребята.
НАС УБИВАЮТ ФАШИСТЫ.
В КИЕВЕ СИДЯТ ПРЕСТУПНИКИ.
DONBASS.

[Yellow white]

Хуже нет, чем ждать и догонять...

[fktrcfylhn61]

Что то Россия молчит? Ведь есть специальные силы, можно было бы не доказательно, кончать этих братоубийц недобитых! Ведь всем понятно что по Совести с ними разговаривать бесполезно! Такие недобитки понимают только Страх! Нельзя позволить бандитскими руками уничтожать граждан!

[Minsk]

Злость дикая.А может Путин и Лукаш готовятся Киев взять?

[shaman-25rus]

навеяло......

[RONIN-HS]

ШАМАН 25, - спасибо брат!

[kuksha]

на юго-востоке примерно 20 млн. населения.
на баррикадах 4-5 тыс.
шахтеры требуют увеличения зарплаты.
за кого нашим cолдатам умирать?
они в спину стрелять будут и заявят,что нас не звали.
когда семьи кормить нечем будет тогда задумаются,и то не все.

[Boris55]

Quote: kuksha

шахтеры требуют увеличения зарплаты.

Вот всё думаю, а почему они не хотят национализировать шахты?

[Horn]

Совершенно верно. Я уже писал месяц-другой назад, что только шок, только боль от потери близких людей, может поднять людей на по-настоящему адекватный ответ. Только кровь, только боль! И эта кровь не заставит себя ждать. Одесситы! Украинцы сами выпросили у Бога себе такую морлокскую власть, которая будет жрать их детей! Своим молчанием и соглашательством. Не мирно надо протестовать, а просто и буднично резать головы врагам. Тем более, что ничего сверхсложного в этом нет.

[Alekseev]

Quote: kuksha

когда семьи кормить нечем будет тогда задумаются,и то не все.

Ваша правда, только что беседовал по скайпу с Одессой, вроде как не самые глупые люди, уже за 50, всё у них есть - интернет и прочие телекоммуникационные благи. Родственники ближайшие в России - несут х...ю.
Это, дескать, в Доме профсоюзов сами себя сожгли, никто их не убивал, дымком задохнулись.
Дескать, президента выберем себе хорошего... (Кого?)
Дескать, в Донбассе террористы (на вопрос какой вокзал, автобус они взорвали, молчат)
В общем, как слепой с глухим, пока не поживут тяжко, пока на своей шкуре не испытают всех прелестей, не дойдет.
И, главное, таких до хрена.
Какой ввод войск? За кого умирать?

Quote: kuksha

на юго-востоке примерно 20 млн. населения.
на баррикадах 4-5 тыс.

Да, верно. Но на баррикадах никогда не будет много.
Но вот на манифестацию тысяч этак на 150 в Донецке обязаны были собраться, если хотят референдум, да стачку вседонбасскую...

[Old warrant officer]

Quote: Ace in the sleeve

Я так понял, по Одессе, что всех про-российски настроенных на Украине теперь будут просто убивать. Это было предсказуемо, по большому счету допровоцировывались и доорганизовывались со всеми этими акциями поддержки федерализации на ЮВУ. Уже сам факт что в Одессе 15 россиян погибших и вроде из Приднестровья были люди, говорит о том, кто именно стоит за акциями "За Россию" и пр - отнюдь не местные "патриоты".

Здесь вроде пару недель назад кто то говорил, что доиграетесь, когда русских тупо убивать будут на Украине за то что они русские. Но всем интереснее было орать Ату их, захватим, отделим, мы сила и пр. Ну вот теперь смотрите на результаты.

Ты понял сам, что написал? Ты как принадлежность трупов определил? Или русские и приднестровцы как-то отличаются от других?

[Alekseev]

Quote: Old Warrant Officer

Ты как принадлежность трупов определил? Или русские и приднестровцы как-то отличаются от других?

Но это ж Туз в рукаве - т.е.,о -русски, шулер.
Повторяет фигню, совсем как мои одесские знакомцы.
УВД Одессы заявило, что все на настоящий момент опознанные погибшие- жители города.

[RAA]

Военных инспекторов отпустили без обмена?!

[Deadmen]

без обмена и без требований.

[Elle-elle]

начались уступки. Потом - сдать оружие и сдаться самим

[kurare]

Все говорят ввести войска, допустим введем, знаете что будет? Украинская армия сразу сдастся, те бандеровцы которые сегодня жгут людей, обделаются от страху и прикинутся сторонниками России, эти 17-летние подонки с улыбками на лицах и коктейлями молотова сразу станут домашними мальчиками и девочками, которых родители даже гулять не отпускают, а запад сразу обвинит Россию в войне со школотой и хрен там разберешь кто за нас, а кто против и как быть?

[Wooden jo]

Вводить войска нельзя, пусть население само разбирается, а если этому населению плевать, что его режут, насилуют его историю, его настоящее и будущее и прошлое, то горе такому населению, пусть тогда терпят. Вот когда встанет большая половина Украины, когда армия перестанет подчинятся банде в Раде, тогда можно поддержать продвижение армейских УКРАИНСКИХ подразделений в Киев. Но сейчас это глупая затея.

[T-73]

Quote: WoodenJoe

пусть население само разбирается

Всё несколько шире. НАТОвские ракеты под Белгородом нам не неужны. И на границе с Белоруссией тоже. К тому же начнётся канитель бандеровская на нашей границе.

[Goha]

Надо ополченцам действовать более решительней, а то как пушечное мясо. Всё чего ждут.

[kvn]

Я маленьким часто бывал у брата в Одессе думал, что это лучший город для проживания в мире.
and here
надо же активные одесситы страшно гибнут от рук приезжих, а остальные жители попрятались в свои норы, свои менты боятся защищать своих граждан.
немыслимо, это точно Одесса?

[sniper]

Цитата: kvn

немыслимо, это точно Одесса?

К сожалению , да ... И что самое страшное , не только Одесса , а вся Украина ... А тут говорят : "...Войска вводить ... " Куда ? Нас там ждут ???

[Wooden jo]

Я в прошлом году был в Одессе, и ничего кроме своры пьянствующих в забегаловках по всем местам и мерзко себя ведущим не видел, давно нет той Одессы с славной историей, нет того героического народа, нет советского флота.

[T-73]

Хорошо что Утёсов этого не знает. Грусно. "Жемчужина у моря..."

[lord]

я тоже сегодня подумал так утесов песня про одессу слова из песни мой друг лежал обжигаемый боем - как будто про нашу действительность