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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May

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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May

21: 25 MSK In Donetsk, anti-Maiden activists occupied the local headquarters of the Security Service and the investigative headquarters of the Security Service. According to the Internet publication Ostrov, the premises in which there was no security were occupied by people dressed in camouflage uniforms and armed with bats and fittings. The action involves several thousand people, the number of people is increasing. Activists hoisted the flag of the "Donetsk People's Republic" on the visor of the captured building of the UBSU.
In the city there are thousands of rally in memory of those killed in Odessa. People are anxiously waiting for the night: there is information that armored vehicles are coming to the capital of Donbass, obviously, in order to carry out a punitive operation there, reports Russia 24 TV channel.
20: 52 MSK The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry claims that citizens of Russia who allegedly took part in the riots in Odessa were detained in Ukraine.
According to the foreign ministry, "Ukrainian law enforcement agencies received confirmation of the participation of Russian citizens in provocations in Odessa on May 2." According to the version of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, the detainees "are already testifying."
20: 55 MSK Oleg Tsarev Kharkiv Khatyn is preparing:

20: 32 MSK Odessa is brewing a new massacre:

20: 14 MSK People during a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa died instantly due to the burning of an unknown substance, according to the Ukrainian news agency UNIAN.
"A lot of people died jumping from 4-5 floors of the building, the rest from carbon monoxide or burned ... I was at the scene and saw a large number of people who died. And it was obvious that they died suddenly, very quickly. That is, what kind of “A substance that released gas, and this gas very quickly affected people who lost consciousness and died on the spot,” said First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema at a briefing in Odessa.
19.29 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine issued an official statement that the Trade Union House in Odessa was set on fire by activists who occupied the building. This is contrary to scenes from the scene and eyewitness reports.
At the same time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine claims that "from the upper floors, the attackers began to inject incendiary bottles with civilians and fire at them from the firearms weapons. As a result of the attackers' use of Molotov cocktails, a fire broke out. From the upper floors, the fire spread to a large area. "

18: 50 MSK Ukrainian presidential candidate Yulia Tymoshenko called the burning of people in Odessa protection of administrative buildings, and the attack of the radicals on the Anti-Maidan camp as a peaceful demonstration. The politician also believes that Odessans were killed by saboteurs groups, and not by the radicals of the Right Sector.
“They (the dead - ed.) Have children, had their own lives, their own plans. All this was cut short by the fact that during a peaceful demonstration in support of the unity of Ukraine sabotage units were sent, who began to kill Odessans,” Tymoshenko said. which leads the press service of the party led by her "Batkivshchyna".

"We persevered and defended in Odessa, because the Odesa citizens began to pull themselves to help at the time when they began attacking the participants of the pro-Ukrainian procession, and were able to protect the administrative buildings," the politician said.

17: 56 MSK In Slavyansk, after the departure of the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) military observers, clashes between radicals and supporters of federalization began. This was reported by the correspondent. ITAR-TASS representative of the self-defense forces in the city.
According to him, 15 people were killed in Slavyansk, only four of them were armed, and the rest of 11 were civilians. According to the assumptions of the militias, "representatives of the" Right Sector "could organize a provocation of the next military actions."
17: 56 MSK During the storming of the Ukrainian Kramatorsk, snipers killed two people, the city’s hospitals are overcrowded, Ilya Dolzhnytsky, an activist of people's self-defense, told Russia-24 TV channel.
17: 50 MSK Address of residents of Lugansk to residents of Donetsk 03 05 2014

17.30 MSKOleg Tsarev - Statement from the South-East of Ukraine

17.25 MSK Odessans blocked the building of the regional militia, demanding to punish those responsible for the deaths
Odessans blocked on Saturday the building of the regional police department. About a hundred and fifty demonstrators express outrage at the police’s inaction during the riots provoked by Right Sector activists and the so-called “Maidan’s self-defense” that led to the death of 46 people.
They demand the resignation of the Odessa governor, chanting "Nemirovsky - the murderer" and threatening to launch an assault on the building. In turn, the House of Trade Unions, which on Friday was set on fire by extremists, citizens all day carry flowers and candles in memory of the victims.
16: 08 MSK Kramatorsk self-defense forces keep only the central part of the city, the rest of the city is occupied by security forces controlled by Kiev, reports RIA News. Currently, shooting in the city has subsided, but the militia is preparing for a new assault on their positions.
15: 27 MSK The Security Service of Ukraine offered on Saturday a new version of the events in Odessa, accusing the former Vice-Premier of Ukraine Sergey Arbuzov and former Minister of Revenue and Fees Oleksandr Klymenko of organizing the unrest.
At the same time, on the eve of this, the authorities in Kiev proceeded from a different version - about involvement in the events of the FSB of Russia - which the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation called delusion and total lies.
"The provocations that took place on 2 in May in the city of Odessa and led to clashes and mass casualties among people occurred due to external interference and were financed by the former high-ranking government of Yanukovych, who are hiding in the neighboring state, Sergey Arbuzov and Alexander Klimenko," message.

15: 19 MSK ITAR-TASS. OSCE staff members detained in Slavyansk with the mediation of Vladimir Lukin arrived in Donetsk. This was reported by ITAR-TASS by one of the employees of Lukin.
“I am very happy to be free,” said German citizen Axel Schneider, who was among the detained military observers.
“Everyone arrived in Donetsk, they feel fine. We are grateful to the representatives of the Council of Europe for the assistance they have received,” he said.
In addition, an employee of Vladimir Lukin added that there were no other tasks for the presidential envoy except for the release of the OSCE staff and, as far as possible, Lukin intends to fly to Moscow.
15: 10 MSK Oleg Tsarev's statement on the events in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk

14: 49 MSK The head of the Antiterrorist Center, Vasily Krutov, said that the Ukrainian military controlled the external radius of Slavyansk and all highways leading to the city. He explained that 14 security forces checkpoints were installed around the city. According to Krutov, the law enforcement officers manage to "prevent the passage of sabotage groups towards the city, the movement of weapons and material resources," reports "Interfax".
The Slavyansk militia headquarters reports on active clashes around the city. As representatives of the people's self-defense say, it happens in the area of ​​the settlement of Druzhkovka. Unarmed residents of the city are attacked by radicals from the Right Sector and the National Guard men, reports Russia 24 channel.
14: 46 MSK Street battles are in the vicinity of Kramatorsk. Snipers are aimed fire from the upper floors of buildings. According to the headquarters of self-defense, there are dead and injured, reports channel Russia 24. The exact number of victims is still unknown.

Snipers, controlled by the Kiev authorities, occupied high-rise buildings and firing from there. The fighting takes place on the streets of the city, a special correspondent of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company informs.
The fact that the Ukrainian security forces continue the operation in Kramatorsk, despite the resistance of the militia, was written on Facebook by the Acting Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. According to him, "there is a dense fire in the city."
14: 31 MSK The National Guard under armored vehicles entered the city of Kramatorsk, after the roadblocks broke through. There was shooting in several areas inside the city. Part of the technology got up near the airfield in Kramatorsk.

They say from the site: "The equipment went to the airfield and tried to storm the SBU, then moved towards the street of the 19 Party Congress. The center is still quiet, there is no technology, the Executive Committee is preparing to repel the attack, according to preliminary data from yesterday's 27 injured and 10 the dead. "

The National Guard under attackers tried to storm the building of the SBU. Citizens take to the streets, blocking equipment with shouts: "Glory to Donbass!", "Fascists!"
14: 13 MSK The people's governor of the Luhansk region, Valery Bolotov, made an official statement: a state of emergency and mobilization is being introduced in the Luhansk region, the Kiev authorities are declared the blood enemies of the people of Luhansk region. The Ukrainian TV channels are disconnected, the aim of the united army of the South-East is Kiev.

13: 27 MSK The militias are ready to exchange prisoners, said the people's mayor of Slavyansk
"We have to exchange prisoners for the members of the Right Sector, members of the fascist parties," he said. “If the junta wants to exchange them, then we are ready,” Ponomarev added. He also noted that the release of OSCE foreign observers was not an exchange, but unilaterally.

13: 24 MSK The supporters of federalization and the citizens of Odessa who sympathize with them threw off the flag of Ukraine, which was raised yesterday by extremists on the Kulikovo Field, and burned it.
A scuffle occurred during the removal of the flag - there were several people among those present who tried to prevent the activists. A fight ensued. No serious injuries. At the scene were police officers.
13: 11 MSK Activist: militia groups moved from the Crimea to help Slavyansk
"In Slavyansk, our guys are reporting that they are now reformatting, redeploying forces. We know that we have come to support the Crimea ... Two battalions of Crimean guys came out, which will join our struggle," the commissioner of the social-patriotic movement told RIA Novosti Eastern Front "Nikolay Solntsev.

According to him, the militia formed in the Crimea "are coming to our aid to fight fascism."
13: 08 MSK In Kramatorsk, in the district of the village of Belenkaya (Stankostroy), there is a battle at the checkpoint. This is reported by civilian journalists.
Shooting from large-caliber machine guns and cannons (presumably BMD) continues, tires are burning.
12: 50 MSK In the DNI creates a single popular resistance. General Mobilization Announced
In the Donetsk region in Ukraine, where on the eve of the authorities began to conduct a special operation using aviation and military equipment, mobilization has been announced, a unified national resistance is being created, the commissar of the socio-patriotic movement "Eastern Front" Nikolai Solntsev told RIA Novosti.
“Donetsk is mobilizing today, full mobilization has been announced. Our security forces are ready for full-scale hostilities, ”he said.

Solntsev said that "people today are going to the square."
“Today we will mobilize people into a single popular resistance, so that every citizen of the city, so that every citizen of Donbass stands up as one for his freedom,” he noted.

12: 47 MSK The prosecutor said 46 killed in the riots in Odessa
INTERFAX.RU - During the riots in Odessa on Friday, 46 people died, the prosecutor of the Odessa region, Igor Borshulyak, told reporters on Saturday at a press conference.
Also, the head of the supervisory authority noted that law enforcement officers are now conducting operational investigative actions on a number of criminal proceedings, including the fact of official negligence of police officers. As part of criminal proceedings, 144 people were detained.
According to the Odessa City Council, as of 09: 00 on May 3, 214 people turned to Odessa hospitals. Of the 88 applicants, people were hospitalized, including one teenager 17 years old.
On Friday in Odessa mass riots and fights occurred between supporters and opponents of the Maidan overnight. They were followed by a fire in the House of Trade Unions, in which the majority of people died.
13: 03 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine declares that it took full control of the airport in the Ukrainian Kramatorsk and all roadblocks around the city, RIA Novosti reports.
13: 00 MSK A video message of self-defense fighters from Nikolaev appeared on Youtube.

12: 57 MSK Protesters gather at the Trade Union building in Odessa.

12: 55 MSK Citizen journalists report that shots are heard in Kramatorsk.

12: 32 MSK Odessa blood transfusion station said there was a shortage of donor blood, civilian journalists report.
12: 29 MSK In the Odessa region a battalion of the Storm patrol service is being created, the UNN reports with reference to the press service of the local police department of Ukraine.
Candidates for service in the battalion must have Ukrainian citizenship, experience serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine or in other military formations, and have no criminal record. They must not be younger than 19 and older than 35.
12: 27 MSK The Kremlin called absurd the possibility of holding presidential elections in Ukraine against the background of increasing violence. This, according to the IA "Interfax", said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov. “After what happened in Odessa, against the background of how the spiral of confrontation unwinds in the south-east of the country, we don’t understand what kind of elections they are talking about in Kiev, in European capitals and in Washington,” he told reporters on Saturday.
A spokesman for the Russian president said that neither Russia nor any other country can no longer affect the residents of south-eastern Ukraine, who feel threatened by their lives. For the bloodshed in Ukraine, Kiev and "its Western sponsors" are directly responsible.
11.46 MSK In Slavyansk, the OSCE observers captured on April 25 were released.
11: 39 MSK The leader of the Odessa Liberation Movement of Kulikovo Field, Yegor Kvasnyuk, is sure that after the Friday events in the city a “partisan” opposition to the armed militants will begin
11.34 MSK The Belarusian railway has changed the routes of its trains in the Kharkov-Donetsk section.
11.02 MSK 42 people died, 125 hospitalized as a result of a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. The head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Odessa region, Petr Lutsyuk, was dismissed from his post, an official investigation was launched against him, the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine said.
10: 25 MSK The militiamen in Slavyansk report the death of more than 10 civilians who blocked the Right Sector convoy at night.
"Last night, in the village of Andreevka (a suburb of Slavyansk), people came out to block the road to the column of the Right Sector, formed a living chain, but the soldiers of the Right Sector opened fire, causing more than 10 people to die,"
- said Interfax on Saturday by telephone to the “people's mayor” of Slavyansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev.
He reported that, as a result of the incident, still order 40 people were injured.
10: 17 MSK The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Arsen Avakov, announced the liquidation of two checkpoints near the Kramatorsk airport in the Donetsk region, Interfax reports. Nothing is known about the victims or the victims.
Avakov wrote about the liquidation of two roadblocks in his Facebook.
9.20 MSK China is "concerned about the situation in Ukraine" and calls on the parties to the conflict to "maintain composure and restraint."
08: 04 MSK Force operation in Kramatorsk continued at dawn - Avakov
Divisions of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies beat off a television tower in Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, from supporters of federalization on Saturday night, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said.
“The operation was carried out by the National Guard and the soldiers. The active phase of the operation continued at dawn. We are not stopping,” the minister wrote on his Facebook page on Saturday morning.
6.22 MSK In the UN Security Council blocked the initiative to support the Geneva agreements on Ukraine.
5.02 MSK Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
1.45 MSK Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: историяthat "the separatists received weapons from the FSB" - a lie.
00.43 MSK Media: Ukrainian security officials began storming in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, television reports
00.35 MSK Co-chairman of the "Donetsk People's Republic": the date of the referendum on sovereignty does not change.
00.27 MSK The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: the death of people in Odessa is a manifestation of the criminal irresponsibility of the Kiev authorities. So the Russian Foreign Ministry responded to the arson attack by the militants of the Right Sector of the trade unions house, which killed 38 people.
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  1. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 08: 29 New
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    It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, first of all, small arms, as well as cartridges for them, RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communication equipment and dry soldering.
    And people in these areas are already raising their teeth to those who trample on them; they defend their right to live as free people.
    If it is undesirable for our government to send troops now, let’s help with weapons and medicines.
    These same areas border with us; you can also organize a corridor for both weapons and volunteers to help !!!
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 May 2014 08: 31 New
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      Quote: leks
      It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk region, primarily the rifle and their cartridges, we need RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communications equipment and dry soldering.
      There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 3 May 2014 09: 05 New
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        Brothers, you are making the same mistake as Yanukovych. You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line. They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields. Partisan. Only then will they want the border. The case is for snipers and experts in mine explosives, for today's N.I. Kuznetsov. With complete secrecy.
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        2. _Forgiven_
          _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 09: 37 New
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          And you try to go out of town! A bunch of women snipers from the Baltic states are sitting in the woods and firing at all the cars. Armor and dol.bany guard with pravosekami beat with Kalash on everything that moves. Here on the site you are a hero, and you come to me in Slavyansk and show your ardor. Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road
          1. tds-8_78
            tds-8_78 3 May 2014 09: 50 New
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            Be patient. Help will be.
            1. aristarh
              aristarh 3 May 2014 10: 24 New
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              let there be no help whatsoever all that the Russians in the Security Council have already done.
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 14: 54 New
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                это верно, козыревская дипломатия невмешательства в процессе исполнения англосаксов технологии "разделяй и влавствуй" нискольне изменилась.

                российская помощь была есть и будет в рамках "мы возмущены" "мы требуем осуждения" у кого требуют ? у тех кто фактически и является хозяевами и заказчиками третьей мировой войны?

                laurels and his kodla is washed by snot and his ordinary employees are given diplomats in the faces around the world.

                все что происходит - происходит по договоренности российской олигархической верхушки с западными "партнерами", тоесть путин не будет вмешиваться в разрешение конфликта а взамен получит гарантии качать углеводороды до тех пор пока сам народ России не поймет что его окончательно кинули
          2. kare
            kare 3 May 2014 11: 11 New
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            Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road

            And you work on no matter what
            And do not worry at all, the situation will resolve itself
            When they will kill and burn your loved ones, stand by and condemn
            Patience, it may cost recourse
            So work for your health
            1. _Forgiven_
              _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 11: 57 New
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              Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words
              1. Krsk
                Krsk 3 May 2014 12: 29 New
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                Good luck to you guys !!!
              2. Moskal 55
                Moskal 55 3 May 2014 12: 38 New
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                "В Донецкой области объявлена мобилизация, создается единое народное сопротивление. Об этом заявил комиссар общественно-патриотического движения «Восточный фронт» Николай Солнцев."
                Something like this ... Sorry for the repeated response to your comment.
              3. kare
                kare 3 May 2014 13: 08 New
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                Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words

                It is necessary to express more clearly. From the first post you can understand that only care is about work. What is your population, correlate with the number of defenders. Here and
                one gets the impression that many on the principle, my hota from the edge, nothing ...
                Don’t pay attention to harsh words, it’s from impotent anger that I can’t help at the moment. If you weren’t an elderly person in your arms, weak, you would have been with you for a long time. The best defense is an attack. Do not judge us, we sit and swallow evil tears while listening to silence ....
                But remember, it is impossible to simultaneously take revenge on the street and engage in charity. Either war or work
                1. _Forgiven_
                  _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 14: 21 New
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                  You also have to understand that they don’t give money for self-defense, that's why you have to - work so that you can buy bread and fight. It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that they will be able to deliver humanitarian aid
                  1. kare
                    kare 3 May 2014 15: 22 New
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                    It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that humanitarian aid can be delivered

                    I understand everything. Andrei. Only your situation on the Maidan is not similar. You are faced with a choice. Slavery or death. The dogs will not wait until you go to work.
                    With all my heart, hold on soldier
                    1. CALL.
                      CALL. 3 May 2014 16: 36 New
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                      Ukrainian security forces began an assault in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, according to television



                    2. _Forgiven_
                      _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 17: 57 New
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                      Thank you, we will try. Weapons are few, this is the main problem! smile
                  2. His
                    His 3 May 2014 16: 38 New
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                    Strange you Ukrainians are all waiting when Peti and Vasya from Khabarovsk or Kemerovo will defend your fifth point, receiving bullets in their hearts. And you? Therefore, Kiev did not become a city - a hero, unlike Sevastopol, Odessa and Kerch. Work on and don’t notice anything and your son grow up the same. Be healthy people
                    1. Thompson
                      Thompson 3 May 2014 18: 51 New
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                      The new article is just for and about them! -Http: //topwar.ru/46364-smert-himere-pokayanie.html
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                  3. Buran
                    Buran 4 May 2014 05: 06 New
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                    Tell me where to send the money? How to help? I’m just, well, very far from everything that is happening, but I want to help.
              4. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 35 New
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                do not pay attention to him. lying on the stove he will fight with NATO. such as he is gorlopan and cheers patriots usually dump in the forefront of the theater of operations
              5. Skipper2050
                Skipper2050 4 May 2014 00: 04 New
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                Hold on guys, hold on, half of Russia would rush to your aid, but it's not so simple. GDP is silent, then something is up to, so there will be help.
            2. Thompson
              Thompson 3 May 2014 12: 25 New
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              Yeah. I watched the report yesterday. A young guy from Slavic said: everything is fine, everything is under control. OUR standing posts guard us!
              And he himself was not hiding behind his wife. Or am I the only one who misunderstood him?

              Everything is complicated. Or simply. It is strange that they only capture posts, but do not enter cities. What kind of tactics ...? To be afraid or to starve ...?
            3. Elle-elle
              Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 45 New
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              Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?
              1. Thompson
                Thompson 3 May 2014 18: 33 New
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                Quote: Elle-elle
                Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?

                Himself not from there. But he came out with the handle, not from you, but in Russia. And then, unlike you, all of us rose as one who, with what he could, walked with that! So they did not let those who did not have weapons! And everyone had wives and children and relatives!
                Therefore, I do not need us here either la la la. He who wants to is looking for at least one opportunity, who does not want to seek thousands of reasons! Maybe he wrote hard, but I think so!
                PS And to be straightforward to the end- Banderlog and Natsik, and ki, WANT and DO, and not only at home, but already at your place! Or are they all orphans and homeless? Learn or take an example from the enemy ... And stop whining
            4. Foooxxxxx
              Foooxxxxx 3 May 2014 14: 10 New
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              This is the problem. And who will feed? If all the opponents of the nationalists would quit work and go against them, they would not think enough!
          3. petrT
            petrT 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
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            Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.
          4. petrT
            petrT 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
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            Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.
            1. kavad
              kavad 3 May 2014 17: 53 New
              +1
              I’m not repeating, not repeating twice, twice.

              Che for fashion write posts twice ?! They won’t read it the first time? Or do not understand?
              Write three or four for sure.
          5. Moskal 55
            Moskal 55 3 May 2014 12: 29 New
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            Guys! You need everyone to get up. How many people are in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Join your resistance. Urgently inform all friends and relatives in other settlements of the regions. Probably there will be volunteers from Russia, and maybe not only, but here you need to get together and act together.
            1. T-73
              T-73 3 May 2014 14: 49 New
              +5
              That's it - for everyone. Try to sit out - well, well. I’ll have to rest, most likely. If you take care of the children, then certainly not at work.
          6. avia1991
            avia1991 3 May 2014 12: 51 New
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            Так Вы на работу ходите, уважаемый? Знать, не все у вас еще настолько плохо.. Пока ВСЕ не поднимутся - так и будут вас бить! Минусуйте, сколько влезет, но если в городе со 120-тысячным населением 2000 бойцов набралось в условиях военного положения - о чем говорить?!! Ждете, когда РФ введет войска? А если не введет?!! Складов с оружием - правильно выше сказали - только что Китай вооружить не хватит, но никто не берется их экспроприировать. Почему? Мирные жители "встают живым щитом"!.. Это вообще умиляет: ЧТО НЕ ПОНЯЛИ ЕЩЕ, ЧТО ПРАВОСЕКАМ НАС.РАТЬ НА ЭТОТ ЩИТ?!! ПЕРЕЕДУТ, И НЕ ПОДАВЯТСЯ! Ах, бабы-снайперы! В Афгане духи поголовно снайперами были - стреляли так, что никакая оптика рядом не стояла! И что было делать - по окопам сидеть? Где бы мы сейчас были.. Вычислять, и п...ды им простреливать, ТВА-РЯМ! У меня у самого надежда гаснет на участие России - власть второй день НАГЛУХО МОЛЧИТ В ТРЯПОЧКУ! КАК И НЕТ ИХ ВООБЩЕ - выходные же, не до пустяков.. Ведмедик только в фесбуке (!!!) вчера вякнул, какие, мол, гады - и всё, ТИШИНА. Похоже, пора народу самостоятельно действовать, как бы поздно не стало.
            1. kavad
              kavad 3 May 2014 18: 00 New
              +3
              Once so smart - come and help yourself. Cabinet philosopher ...

              "Ведмедик только в фесбуке (!!!) вчера вякнул, какие, мол, гады - и всё, ТИШИНА."
              - In-in, just like you blather, but not on Facebook, but here. Silence too, actually ...

              Participating yourself in this 3.14dez and building yourself as a hero on the Internet is a bit different things.
          7. Elle-elle
            Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 42 New
            17
            А еще тяжко читать коменты росиян "диванные войска, почему вас так мало, вы не так воюете, так вам никто не поможет"...братья, ну не надо , а? Нет возможности помочь,так хоть не заклевывайте, и так тяжело, реально на работу страшно ехать мимо блок-постов
            1. ELECTRON
              ELECTRON 4 May 2014 00: 02 New
              +1
              Why don’t you be so angry with our couch troops !!! The people are not gloating, but simply trying to express all their anger and feelings, even here ...
              I sincerely wish you not to bend and stand !!!!!
          8. Anisim1977
            Anisim1977 3 May 2014 14: 04 New
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            You're 100% right
            But we, the ordinary ones, will not even be able to get to you - the border is thoroughly closed.
            Try to open the Donetsk and Lugansk borders on your own.
            Not a small number of people from Novorossia still have a brain zombie, and only for this reason Our troops are not with you yet.
            There is still a great risk of becoming not liberators but acupants.
            I think this is the main reason. hi
            1. Nettle
              Nettle 3 May 2014 22: 33 New
              0
              For all ordinary. Ticket Krasnodar-Kerch 1200. There, in the volunteer squad, you sign up and go.
          9. T-73
            T-73 3 May 2014 14: 40 New
            10
            You are right, brother. It just won't be. They shake you as they can. Russia is not just standing aside. I think that we are looking for a reason. We wait. To securely press down. What do you command me to do? This is not Crimea. There you 50/50. Who is pro-Russian, who is not. Do you think everyone here Anika warriors gathered? From some Topvarians it’s possible to assemble a couple of battalions that are combat-ready. Many served here. And they did not forget not only how to disassemble-assemble Kalash for a while. And that ramrod is a dual-use device
          10. dmitry_den
            dmitry_den 3 May 2014 15: 01 New
            -17
            "А ты попробуй выйти за город!"

            You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

            Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

            The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
            "Россия для русских" постоянно звучит из уст "чиста русских пацанов".
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 3 May 2014 15: 27 New
              +8
              Quote: dmitry_den
              Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

              Crimea to you as an example.
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 16: 28 New
                -22
                Crimeans have not yet felt the everyday life in a Russian communal apartment. The euphoria will pass, and the usual problems of the subsidized region will remain with the growing discontent of other regions, which will reduce development payments due to the alleged development of Crimea.

                Yes, comrade Marshal, you take note of this moment, and after a year and two compare what will be done concretely for the Crimea and the Crimeans.

                Or do you still meekly believe the Medvedev gang, headed by a dvorkovich, shuvalov and other scum plundering the country?
                1. saag
                  saag 3 May 2014 17: 14 New
                  +5
                  Why should they be subsidized with their gas? Or factories ..
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 18: 53 New
                    -3
                    wait and see. to raise the country not in a bathhouse with a neighbor
                  2. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 31 New
                    +1
                    today they were just talking about the Moscow ZIL, where the director of the plant received 200 million wages with a complete decline in production under his command, and this is due to massive delays in wages to the labor collective and this is in Moscow and not in some kind of outback where the situation is even worse.
            2. kare
              kare 3 May 2014 15: 58 New
              +5
              You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

              Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
              And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat
              The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
              "Россия для русских" постояннео звучит из уст "чиста русских пацанов".

              How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
              Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
              Listen to troll, aren't you scared?
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 16: 40 New
                -18
                Quote: kare

                Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
                And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat


                ах да.. извиняйте, господин гоблин, нынче чиста русские пацаны за трезвый образ жизни, чтобы быть всегда в форме и гнать "чурок" из России

                Quote: kare

                How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
                Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
                Listen to troll, aren't you scared?

                I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

                Sit on the stove, man and chew your hydrocarbon cocktail until it runs dry
                1. kare
                  kare 3 May 2014 18: 57 New
                  +1
                  I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

                  One troll can always offend the majority with impunity, this is the privilege of weakness
                  My advice to you. Wipe your snot and try to be a man.
                  And about the sofa, Farahrut, etc. Schindant 1983-1984
                  Judging by your hysterical feces, I got you, thief smile
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 10 New
                    -9
                    I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia



                    before teaching others, clean your home
                    1. kare
                      kare 3 May 2014 19: 22 New
                      +2
                      I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia

                      Well, why are you nervous. The family is not without a freak. I do not use this link. And I haven’t seen a dumber picture before. From where did you get this rubbish
                      1. dmitry_den
                        dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 37 New
                        -2
                        unfortunately from the site of the country that defeated fascism
                      2. Stelth1985
                        Stelth1985 4 May 2014 06: 56 New
                        0
                        Слово не имеет правильное применение. Слово идет с древности и пишется - у род(смысловое: у рода) - первый у рода, то есть это означает первенца в семье. Поэтому со словами пожалуйста аккуратнее. Что касается этой, так сказать "композиции" - явно дело рук недомерков. С целью, чтобы стравливать людей.
                    2. Buran
                      Buran 4 May 2014 05: 11 New
                      0
                      Эту х..нь первый раз я видел на либерастких форумах. Вы случаем не из этих самых будете, гражданин "макаревич".
                2. Legionnaire14
                  Legionnaire14 3 May 2014 23: 39 New
                  0
                  And what and what, do you chew it yourself?
            3. kavad
              kavad 3 May 2014 18: 01 New
              0
              Абсолютно поддерживаю по поводу "диванных стратегов".
            4. niki233
              niki233 3 May 2014 19: 06 New
              0
              do not distort!
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 20 New
                -2
                pull not pull and everything remains as old as the world.

                USSR helped Korea beat Anglo-Saxons
                USSR helped Vietnam beat Anglo-Saxons

                Russia was outraged when they bombed Yugoslavia
                Russia was outraged when they bombed Iraq
                Russia was outraged when they bombed Libya
                Russia was outraged when they bombed South Ossetia and only as it allowed that the geek from Tiflis began to kill, all the same decided to send troops.

                How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

                Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

                Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

                What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

                How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.
                1. kare
                  kare 3 May 2014 19: 36 New
                  +1
                  How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

                  Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

                  Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

                  What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

                  How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.

                  You are in vain nervous, it’s hard to get us crazy, we take an example from our greatest president in the world soldier GDP, and our hallmark iscourtesy
                  join us fellow
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 45 New
                    -1
                    I will join in the event that your GDP finally decides to bring to a logical result this is the project that ALL Russian-speaking people of the former USSR dream of

                    it’s time to get up the Teutons from the stove already officially declared Russia an enemy.
                    1. Legionnaire14
                      Legionnaire14 3 May 2014 23: 44 New
                      0
                      How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?
                      -We Shoigu like a hammer. What about you?
                2. sscha
                  sscha 3 May 2014 21: 15 New
                  +2
                  You seem to have washed your brain well! belay Не хуже, чем 25-летним русским, живущим на Украине, которые кричат:"про мою нацию и какой-то гил.." Ты чем от бандерлогов отличаешься? Тем , что не кричишь:" Слава Бандере!"? am And why do you need an alliance with Russia, if everything is so bad with us? It’s a contradiction to yourself - it’s not good (I’m softer so as not to offend). You noticed that your posts are just emotions and ...... But this from the outside is clearly visible! Much better than you my homeland. hi
          11. GradusHuK
            GradusHuK 3 May 2014 16: 04 New
            0
            Work is now protecting my home and my FATHERLAND.
          12. saag
            saag 3 May 2014 17: 10 New
            +4
            or maybe it's better to deal with snipers in the green?
            1. dmitry_den
              dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 24 New
              0
              a good idea. pick up SVD and go
          13. Nettle
            Nettle 3 May 2014 22: 25 New
            0
            That's for sure. It's easy to make a sound.
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              Anper 3 May 2014 23: 43 New
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        3. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 3 May 2014 10: 29 New
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          Quote: Nikolai S.
          They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields.

          Именно так!!! Десятый раз повторяю: спалить врагу его берлогу надо! В Глиции начинать надо. Деморализующий эффект будет исключительный, когда их гадючьи норы ворошить будут. Вот где Рамзан Ахматович Кадыров( Къадири Ахьмадан кIант Рамзан) может помочь местным администрациям и силовым структурам забыть навсегда, что они "силовые"!
        4. On the bayonet
          On the bayonet 3 May 2014 10: 36 New
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          I have been thinking about this for a long time !!! It is necessary to wet them day and night! No European restraint! So that the ground under the feet of the enemy burned !!!
        5. COLUN
          COLUN 3 May 2014 11: 31 New
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          Quote: Nikolai S.
          You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the Bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line.


          Bandera showed their whole essence ...
          After Odessa, no negotiations and exhortations make sense ...
          К сожалению "Добром и пистолетом можно сделать значительно больше чем просто добром".
          Бандеровцы достойны "Конфет Судоплатова"!!!
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      2. Tersky
        Tersky 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
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        Quote: svp67
        There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

        In Donetsk give out weapons
        03.05.2014 - 00: 56

        Сторонники Донецкой республики приняли решение "о ношении автоматического оружия бойцами сил самообороны и другими лицами участниками вооруженных формировании на территории Донецкой области".

        This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 3 May 2014 10: 38 New
          15
          Quote: Tersky
          This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718
          Where is the video message, and where do volunteers come to receive it?
          "Отмазка" о том что дескаь,оружия не хватает - ЛАЖА,в одном только здании Управления таможни в Донецке,захваченном на днях 120000(сто двадцать тысяч!!!) стволов.
          Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.

          И ещё МАССА и МАССА "интересных" и "скользких" вопросов к людям возглавляющих(?) восстание.

          Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???
          1. Simple
            Simple 3 May 2014 11: 28 New
            +6
            Quote: Corsair
            Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.



            First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.

            And then massively можно и "ПС" вооружить , или колеблющихся.
            1. Little Muck
              Little Muck 3 May 2014 12: 08 New
              +2
              To everyone. To everyone. To everyone

              Now they broadcast on the air that a battle has begun in Kramatorsk.
              Ask for help. Right-wingers, the National Guard and other evil spirits climb.
              Infa from here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3Pw7fYlZo
            2. Corsair
              Corsair 3 May 2014 13: 59 New
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              Quote: Simple
              First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.
              Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl ...
              1. Simple
                Simple 3 May 2014 14: 59 New
                +1
                Quote: Corsair
                Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl.


                Let them start with this, if there is time:

                Federal Law on Civil Defense:

                http://teachpro.ru/EOR/School%5COBJSupplies10/Html/der10020.htm

                In general, plans for a civil war are in all states.

                Is it all so neglected that you (Corsair) ask for advice in open forums?

                I think there is no need to explain the fact that the weapon is issued for signature (to have a passport with you) to the personnel of the military formation?

                Sincerely.
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 3 May 2014 12: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???

            Вообще впечатление такое, что Славинск отдали на откуп правосекам.. Ай, слабо самим атаковать! Лучше сидеть тихо - авось там и остановятся?.. Это не о простых людях, конечно. А вот действия "координаторов" - точнее, отсутствие действий - вызывают вопросы!
          3. alone
            alone 3 May 2014 20: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Corsair
            the building of the Customs Administration in Donetsk alone, recently captured 120000 (one hundred and twenty thousand !!!) trunks.

            At the customs of 120 thousand trunks? what belay
      3. _Forgiven_
        _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 09: 34 New
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        And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have. I can’t understand one thing - there’s so much talk of Putin about the deployment of troops in case of further escalation of the conflict, but to no avail. Here in Slavyansk, people have long been waiting for the Russian brothers. There is no point in pulling, all the same, these Western agents continue to impose sanctions. What is the point of talking with them and convening conferences if representatives of Russia are not heard and continue to bend their stick?
        1. Rider
          Rider 3 May 2014 10: 40 New
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          Quote: _Forgiven_
          And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have.

          purely hypothetically.

          Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
          "а вы попробуйте подобраться к этому "тигру" ?
          besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

          and conclusion
          "а подожду ка я союзников, авось они меня освободят раньше чем немцы кончат мою семью"

          I certainly understand that sitting on the couch is easy to advise (I’m talking to myself)
          HOWEVER, this is YOUR family, YOUR home, YOUR land.
          THIS IS YOU GOING TO KILL!
          or do you think that those who stay at home are not touched?


          didn’t want to offend
          I have no doubt in your personal courage,
          but something like that.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 3 May 2014 16: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Rider
            Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
            "а вы попробуйте подобраться к этому "тигру" ?
            besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

            Но "подбирались" же,и жгли "тигры"...
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 3 May 2014 10: 41 New
          +9
          Quote: _Forgiven_
          And you try to get to that weapon.

          120000 units of small arms were seized in the customs administration building in Donetsk, and WHY the militia is not armed, ask the leaders (?) For the uprising (?)
        3. Wellych
          Wellych 3 May 2014 12: 18 New
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          I’m sitting here thumping in powerlessness, but there is hope in the outskirts of my fading consciousness.
          Furious consulted with the confessor, the Americans crap, they especially follow one special command IL, they call him Doomsday Flight, four times he already flew escorting Putin to the Valaam temple, the priest says to concentrate. Furious is a liberal, but he is gathering strength for something serious, a serious kneading, hold on guys, I think help is coming.
          And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.
          1. T-73
            T-73 3 May 2014 14: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: Wellych
            And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.

            We forgive, for it is written without errors)
        4. Anisim1977
          Anisim1977 3 May 2014 14: 07 New
          +2
          So we ourselves ask the same !!!
          We are also waiting for the troops !!!
          But we have no information, like Putin’s, therefore we are waiting for clenched fists.
        5. Dmitriy1975
          Dmitriy1975 3 May 2014 16: 12 New
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          I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows were burning all night, usually no more than a dozen, moreover, like at night and now the traffic there is terrible, the gates at the entrance No. 2 work like they open in an elevator, close it and open again. You guys will excuse us, Donbass, Russians, but damn these creatures just want us to bring in troops, if we don’t introduce them now tomorrow they will iron and howitzer you and only to draw Russia into the war, there is one little hope for a couple of jokers in the sleeve of the GDP, it is painfully quiet somehow.
          1. Rebus
            Rebus 3 May 2014 17: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: Dmitriy1975
            I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows burned all night

            Not more than an hour ago, I saw 12 pieces (maybe more, cloudy ...) of military transport aircraft flying in triples up to a kilometer in the west-south-west direction (I live about 80 kilometers from the border with Ukraine ) Il-76 identified 6 pieces, smaller planes flew with them, with a thinner fuselage and a larger sweep of the wing, did not recognize them ... Maybe it was not in vain that the General Staff burned light all night?

            PS The last time I saw this was 080808 ...
            I don’t know what to think .......
        6. niki233
          niki233 3 May 2014 19: 09 New
          +4
          well, a kind uncle will come and do everything for you, and then you will blame him for not giving your family any money.
      4. Bayard
        Bayard 3 May 2014 17: 55 New
        +7
        Quote: svp67
        There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

        Do you think it's that simple? Yes, near Artyomovsk in the salt mines of weapons for the 3 millionth army. they only guard well and the mine is mined. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU have only small arms, and the junta has armored vehicles, artillery, aviation ... you can’t trample on a tank, and it’s not so easy to decide on a total war with your compatriots (albeit distraught), although it was decided after yesterday I think most. It’s just that the Southeast has been determined recently, and banderlogs were prepared for about 25 years.
        But now there will be no mercy.
    2. JoylyRoger
      JoylyRoger 3 May 2014 08: 35 New
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      And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
        +5
        This is practically a minor civil war.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 3 May 2014 09: 27 New
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          Quote: ZU-23
          This is practically a minor civil war.

          Rubicon passed. No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save. Hatred overflows the hearts of millions of Russian-speaking citizens who three months ago considered Ukraine their state, and who now do not want to hear this word. This is not even a civil war, it is a direct challenge to the Slavic world.
          1. istomin36
            istomin36 3 May 2014 11: 07 New
            +8
            I agree, what is happening causes disgust
            1. Dmitriy1975
              Dmitriy1975 3 May 2014 17: 10 New
              +2
              What is happening causes only one desire, the desire to KILL !!!!!
          2. igor_m_p
            igor_m_p 3 May 2014 12: 56 New
            10
            I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve. In my opinion, the time for talking has passed. No, you can talk indefinitely, but our diplomats are simply not heard. And they don’t hear not because they don’t hear, but because they just don’t want to hear.
            I am not saying that an urgent throw of tank columns to Washington is needed, of course not. But to show the ambassadors at the door and withdraw their, in my opinion, it is time. And screw the valve on the pipe to normalize the situation, not only to Ukraine, but to the entire geyrop ... Somehow ...
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 3 May 2014 15: 30 New
              +4
              Quote: igor_m_p
              I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve.

              This is where everything is clear. Our government is waiting for the Donbass to move from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.
              1. sniper
                sniper 3 May 2014 15: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: Setrac
                from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.
                I think that you are mistaken here ... It was from this that the protests began, the tricolor was hung out ... Russia, after all, is the same more profitable to have Ukraine as a whole state, but friendly ... Yes, and it is very difficult to pull new regions economically ...
          3. Sid.74
            Sid.74 3 May 2014 13: 13 New
            10
            Quote: Tersky
            No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save.

            hi Yes, no Victor since yesterday, no Ukraine! We burned it in the fire of the house of trade unions and in the burning checkpoints of Slavyansk! Now only: New Russia or death!

            The state of the Ruin sewn from the fragments of empires ate itself in a cannibalistic frenzy with hooting and drinking hymns!
            Где те люди на сайте которые хвалили майдан?С их молчаливого согласия Руина превратилась в смесь адского цирка шапито и Сомали!Думали русофобия эта национальная забава свидомого украинца,нет,это обыкновенный фашизм!Не забывайте что русофобия это родная сестра спутница антисемитизма!Кто ещё верит что в Руине будет европейское счастье?Евроинтеграция говорите?Интегрировались по самое не хочу,всё "лучшие" с нацизма взяли!Теперь вот думаю упадёт ли планка у меня если увижу сине-жёлтую тряпку у кого нибудь в руках,смогу ли забыть фотографии сгоревших людей из дома профсоюза,не сорвусь ли и я!
            Question to the Strategic Missile Forces, maybe at least someone will throw a berets on the control panel and put an end to the stupid overseas democracy No. 1?
            Nothing personal, only revenge !!!
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 3 May 2014 15: 12 New
              +7
              In Odessa, on Kulikovo Field - several hundred people, the flag of Ukraine is torn

              Odessa, May 03 (Navigator, Artemy Glazunov) - Supporters of Anti-Maidan, outraged by yesterday’s events, begin to gather on Kulikovo Field.

              According to a Navigator correspondent, several hundred people have already gathered at the site of the deaths of protesters.

              The Ukrainian flag has already been torn from the flagpole building in front of the House of Trade Unions, where a fire occurred yesterday. Subsequently, the flag was given to the fire.

              People arrive with St. George ribbons, mourning bandages and flowers.

              The union building is surrounded by police. Some activists tried to break through the cordon, clashes with law enforcement officers began.

              As reported by the "Navigator", that during the riots in Odessa in Odessa, according to recent reports, 42 people died.


              Хочу только одно добавить,Одесситы не ходите с голыми руками,"зажигалки" сделать по силам каждому,цепи,трубы,биты,разводные ключи,молотки,топоры всё это найти не проблема!Не ходите как средневековые рыцари с оружием на перевес,прячьте всё в пакеты,сумки,рюкзаки!Одевайте по возможности одежду не из синтетики,оберегайте глаза и конечности,по одиночке вы лёгкая добыча,обороняйтесь группами,придумайте нейтральные знаки отличия,ленты или часть одежды определенных цветов то что легко снять смешавшись в городе с толпой,не ходите по одиночке только в группах,не брезгуйте засадами здесь нет места офицерской чести,организуйте мобильные группы на авто которые могут подвезти необходимое для "зажигалок",найдите себе руководителя лучше из военных или милиции(Беркута),мегафон и рации нелишние!Так же нелишним будет найти себе "репортеров" с хорошей фото и видеотехникой на которую можно и нужно снимать лица онижедетей,публичность для них смерти подобна!И группы наблюдателей пускай даже из ветеранов с мобильными телефонами которые мирно сидят и наблюдают куда идут молодчики с криками слава руине!

              After yesterday, it’s already a war at the hands of young children who are waiting for them, you and the whole Southeast now need to destroy them all, peacefully in silence and tranquility it will not work, organize yourselves with God! Don’t stop now, pardon me, it will be like in Slavyansk!
          4. T-73
            T-73 3 May 2014 14: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Tersky
            this is a direct challenge to the Slavic world

            Everything went to that. The Union talked a lot about the decaying West, and so now it’s gangrene. IMHO
          5. Com T-64a
            Com T-64a 3 May 2014 15: 49 New
            +6
            Dear, I think that GDP is waiting for public opinion to be formed by 1000%!
            So that in the heart of EVERY Russian citizen settled deep, black hatred of the Nazis, mattresses and other evil spirits now living in Ukraine ... And then WAR, until the end .. WWII!
            I think so...
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      3. Salamander
        Salamander 3 May 2014 09: 44 New
        29
        I don’t understand why Russia doesn’t use Israel’s tactics. A couple of planes deliver a targeted blow to the headquarters of the punishers and we have nothing to do with it. America will scream and calm down. And the pioneers will understand the warning well.
        1. ultra
          ultra 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: Salamander
          .A pair of planes delivers a point strike at the headquarters.

          To do this, it is necessary to suppress air defense, which means dozens, if not hundreds, of killed Ukrainian troops! The question is, should we go for it?
          1. igor_m_p
            igor_m_p 3 May 2014 12: 48 New
            +5
            Quote: ultra
            To do this, suppress air defense


            "Искандер". И никакое ПВО не поможет. Точность достаточна. Дальность - тоже.
            1. voveim
              voveim 3 May 2014 13: 06 New
              +7
              Right! Yesterday I wrote about this:
              1. Announce a no-fly zone over all areas of the Southeast.
              2. Врезать "Искандерами" (или чем-то еще в этом роде) по установленным местам скопления всей этой бандеровской банды.
              3. Communication and management completely hamper them with interference.
              After all, they were able to do this in the Crimea, can it really fail?
            2. T-73
              T-73 3 May 2014 15: 02 New
              +3
              Quote: igor_m_p
              "Искандер". И никакое ПВО не поможет. Точность достаточна. Дальность - тоже.

              He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important. Many doubters on the Outskirts. Forcibly sweet you will not
              1. Corsair
                Corsair 3 May 2014 17: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: T-73
                He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important.

                Для кого важно? Израилитяне ничтоже сумняшеся наносят удары по Сирии без "потери лица".
                Возможны возражениячто" territory U
                " населена людьми нам не чужими...но следует учесть,что и "Искандеры" будут применятся не по городам и гражданским объектам,а по военной инфраструктуре важной и критичной для хунты.
                And all the more, always possible with a warning alert of the impending impact, so that l \ s was timely displayed, and the equipment came under attack.
                1. T-73
                  T-73 3 May 2014 19: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: Corsair
                  For whom is it important? Israelis strike a punch in Syria

                  It is important for us. Russia will never sink to a small-town state. IMHO
              2. andj61
                andj61 3 May 2014 18: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: T-73
                Quote: igor_m_p
                "Искандер". И никакое ПВО не поможет. Точность достаточна. Дальность - тоже.
                He took off the tongue.

                Аналогично. Но, кроме "Искандера", есть еще крылатые ракеты, пустить на малой высоте - ПВО ее взять сложно, и пуск не так засвечивается.
                1. T-73
                  T-73 3 May 2014 19: 08 New
                  +1
                  Quote: andj61
                  there are cruise missiles

                  Игра идёт намного тоньше. Вся надежда на путинских "тихих охотников", что придумают - увидим. "Контрпост" по крайней мере в них верит. Я тоже склонен.
        2. their
          their 3 May 2014 14: 05 New
          +4
          The whole world will scream about anti-Semitism, since there are all around Jews and Israelis, and the headquarters of the punitive Menorah in Dnepropetrovsk.
        3. RF citizen
          RF citizen 3 May 2014 20: 10 New
          +3
          For we must not do this. We are not enlightened Europe, but Wild Russia. When the Maydanovites seized the buildings - a peaceful protest, when people were hiding in Odessa in Odessa - they were burned like Colorado and separatists.
          Вот и вся суть и разница. Мы всё тёрки какие-то в ООН, ОБСЕ, НАТО устраиваем, а тем только и надо это. Время то идёт, люди гибнут, костёрчик гражданской войны разгорается, подбирается к нашим границам вплотную. А мы "соболезнования, мирные переговоры, дармовой газ, энергию, Южный Поток..."

          Одесситы тоже "хороши". Вас там туева хуча мужиков, оружия больше, чем у нас на всю Сибирь, сидите и ждёте вежливых. Ну ждите дальше.
          Excuse me, men, but you cannot compare with Slavic. Are you worried about everything for children and wives, that there will be nothing to feed? Yes, it’s not a question, law-enforcers will solve this question too: I’ll die in jail, I’ll die of your wives and children — they will not stand on ceremony. This has already been proven more than once.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 3 May 2014 08: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: leks
      It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, primarily to small arms and also to them cartridges

      There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 3 May 2014 09: 34 New
        +9
        Italian mercenary, among the punishers ....
        1. evgenii
          evgenii 3 May 2014 10: 41 New
          +1
          is that damn-ahhh, that-oooooooooh ....
        2. svd-xnumx
          svd-xnumx 3 May 2014 15: 09 New
          +2
          on YouTube more than once links do not open where something murky happens, censorship in action?
      2. kubanec
        kubanec 3 May 2014 10: 40 New
        19
        READ OUT !! ----- but then it will be a real war .------ THERE IS ALREADY A REAL WAR !!!!! AND EXACTLY THE GENOCIDE OF RUSSIAN AND ORTHODOX POPULATION !!!!!
        1. their
          their 3 May 2014 14: 08 New
          +1
          Exactly, wake up, and see if you have Israel-Bandera there nearby.
      3. Dubox
        Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 08 New
        +5
        let war be better than unarmed massacre
      4. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p 4 May 2014 01: 37 New
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        Enough for the army, but then it will be a real war.


        There is already a real war, there is nothing left to lose ...
    4. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 3 May 2014 10: 05 New
      +6
      Here are name-weapons and volunteer instructors. And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.
      1. poquello
        poquello 3 May 2014 12: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Aleksandr65
        .... And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.

        What for? Yanukovych is an extreme option, Ukraine will wake up and everything around is green and President Yanukovych.
    5. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 3 May 2014 11: 54 New
      +1
      Yes, if we really supplied our weapons there, this operation would have already ended long ago, although it has now stalled tightly.
    6. Fitter
      Fitter 3 May 2014 12: 21 New
      +2
      lack of organization !!
      http://anti-maidan.com/?p=streams&sid=bg-studio1
      in Slavyansk need coordination!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 3 May 2014 13: 06 New
        +4
        Strelkov in Slavyansk holds coordination, and obviously knows his business - well done, man! Only, it seems, he was left there alone, without outside support .. And the contingent is not personnel, disruptions are inevitable.
        1. T-73
          T-73 3 May 2014 15: 05 New
          +4
          Strelkov alone is not enough. Well done, of course, man. But don't tear. One without personnel support cannot take control of the situation, I mean the expansion of the sphere of influence.
    7. bandabas
      bandabas 3 May 2014 12: 37 New
      +7
      Вообще то наш ГОСПОДИН ПРЕЗИДЕНТ сказал"А". Надо сказать -"Б"
      1. ankh-andrej
        ankh-andrej 3 May 2014 17: 50 New
        +3
        Может лучше бы не говорил эту "А"? Не давал надежду на помощь? Не раскачивал бы ситуацию? А то как то некрасиво всё выходит.
    8. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 3 May 2014 13: 57 New
      +5
      Yes, the masks are ripped off !!!
      Burning people in the whole building is already not human !!!!
      New Russia - arm yourself with whatever you can - destroy this scum mercilessly !!!!!
      Yes GOD give you strength and courage !!!!
    9. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 3 May 2014 15: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: leks
      We need to arrange the supply of weapons

      Right now I’m watching the flight of Tu-95, Il-76 and Tu-22M3 towards the Crimea. They are not 2-3 here, I won’t say exactly where and how many, so as not to shoot ahead of time. They go very low, probably not to light ahead of time. Given that several ships with IJES hang out in the Black Sea, I think NATO already knows about these aircraft. But that would not harm my own, I will not say whether they are armed or not. God forbid enough demonstrations to cool the ardor of these scumbags.
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 3 May 2014 17: 02 New
        +2
        Поправка: с ним еще и Ту-160Белый лебедь", а по моей личной классификации - "Последний довод русской дипломатии".

        PS The tanker went in the opposite direction, I think the bombers landed on the destination airfield. Well, or gone on purpose; joke, God forbid of course.
    10. Dubox
      Dubox 3 May 2014 22: 31 New
      0


      If here the truth is what they are talking about, then maybe in Slavic not everything is lost
    11. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 3 May 2014 23: 57 New
      0
      It is necessary to organize a corridor, to bring out purely civilians (women, children, the elderly), it will be calmer. The weapon is necessary and normal, with ammunition in large quantities. The GDP has probably sent specialists there.
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 May 2014 08: 30 New
    +5
    Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
    Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 35 New
      12
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

      Where is the expression of this rage?
      Кроме дипломатического политеса и "озабоченности ситуацией " ПОКА(?) действий никаких...
      1. SANAY
        SANAY 3 May 2014 10: 30 New
        11
        И хватит называть их "партнерами"!!!! Пора переходить на "оппонентов", затем на "соперников", "недоброжелателей", "вредителей" и "противников"!!!!!!!!!
      2. Little Muck
        Little Muck 3 May 2014 10: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Corsair
        Кроме дипломатического политеса и "озабоченности ситуацией " ПОКА(?) действий никаких...

        Да уж. А как хочется увидеть "Эскадеры" в действии и ПВО подавлять не надо и дистанции должно хватить для деморализации хунты.
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      4. Grenader
        Grenader 3 May 2014 13: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: Corsair

        Where is the expression of this rage?
        Кроме дипломатического политеса и "озабоченности ситуацией " ПОКА(?) действий никаких...

        Дипломатические усилия ни к чему не приведут. Для запада наши заявления только сотрясание воздуха. Чем дольше мы будем медлить, тем больше крови прольётся на Украине. Санкции к нам всё равно применят, если не сейчас то позже. Если мы бросим Юговосток , то майдан будет на красной пощади. Так что вариантов у нас нет. Отказ от сферы своего влияния в Европе обернулся для России пожаром возле собственной границы. А сколько кричали либералишки в 90е - "Зачем нам всех кормить?". Вот теперь за это и расплачиваемся, ибо чем шире зона влияния государства, тем выше его безопасность.
      5. Elle-elle
        Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 54 New
        +4
        Глубоко шокирована? Теперь, остается выразить "глубокую озабоченность" и - очередной дипломатический реверанс - "выразить глубокое соболезнование погибшим и призвать власти Киева к диэскалации", правда уже в пятый раз, но дипломатия же, чего...
    2. shurik
      shurik 3 May 2014 09: 39 New
      15
      The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
        13
        Quote: Corsair
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

        Where is the expression of this rage?
        Кроме дипломатического политеса и "озабоченности ситуацией " ПОКА(?) действий никаких...

        Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

          Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
          Тогда ещё начали "сосредотачиваться",а проявления этого ГДЕ?Хотя бы косвенные?

          Крым "возьмём за скобки"...
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 01 New
            +6
            Quote: Corsair
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

            Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
            Тогда ещё начали "сосредотачиваться",а проявления этого ГДЕ?Хотя бы косвенные?

            Крым "возьмём за скобки"...

            А вы что предлагаете "шашки наголо и вперед"? От нас только этого и ждут..Кровь пролили ООН молчит ..А проявления как вы понимаете (колонны бронетехники на перегазовках...??) 3 вертолета сбили и не с ружбайки.. Сейчас идет формирование отрядов самообороны Работа идет и мы скоро это узнаем..А кричать "все пропало Россия обо...сь) Это на всех бандеровских сайтах сейчас звучит..
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            2. Dubox
              Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 15 New
              +7
              А вы что предлагаете "шашки наголо и вперед"?

              I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

              Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.
              1. Pacificus
                Pacificus 3 May 2014 15: 45 New
                +4
                But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola.

                ... and US is not in Ukraine;) I officially declare ... bully
            3. avia1991
              avia1991 3 May 2014 13: 15 New
              +4
              Quote: MIKHAN
              А вы что предлагаете "шашки наголо и вперед"?

              You do not admit that you wishful thinking? The situation became hot not yesterday. HOW MUCH DO I NEED TIME FOR THE GENERAL STAFF AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL TO WORK OUT AN ACTION PLAN ?? DAY, WEEK ??? MONTH??? They already had longer terms! And the reaction is zero! So it will be necessary for the Southeast to go to Kadyrov for help! .. I want to scream: VLAAAAST !!! YOU ARE WHEREER? !!! Russia is already guilty everywhere, and no one will do anything to us worse than it is! So it is necessary to create at least something of what we are accused of - so that it would not be offensive! Are we urged to take all measures to de-escalate the conflict ?! !! So you need to meet them! GATHER THESE RIGHTS ON ALL BUSHES TO THE WEST BORDER! AND EVERYTHING - THE CONFLICT WILL END!
              1. Vorodis_vA
                Vorodis_vA 4 May 2014 00: 49 New
                0
                and work in the southeast according to whose are you doing?
          2. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            Mihaylo Tishayshiy 3 May 2014 11: 38 New
            14
            Quote: Corsair
            Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
            Тогда ещё начали "сосредотачиваться",а проявления этого ГДЕ?Хотя бы косвенные?

            Корсар, не смотря на нашу вчерашнюю перепалку, сегодня вас поддерживаю. В комментах к той статье, которая вам вчера не понравилась, есть видео, в котором раскрываются интересные вещи. Вот сейчас у нас получила широкую поддержку мысль, что америкосы хотят во что бы то ни стало вовлечь Россию в военный конфликт на Украине. А мы уже не в нём, разве? Согласно риторике Запада на всех политических площадках (ООН и пр.), согласно принимаемым санкциям, мы - в самом его эпицентре! Можно, конечно сейчас, как Пьер Безухов в "Войне и мире", как чумным бродить и ошалело взирать на пожар, кровь, смерть и слёзы, но не брать в руки оружие. "Не допустить втягивания России в кровавый конфликт" - это всё от ЛУКАВОГО!
            Во-первых. Чем закончились конфликты последних лет, куда мы не "втянулись"? Югославия - В КЛОЧКИ! Афганистан - В ДЫМ! Ирак - В ПЫЛЬ! Ливия - В ЛОСКУТЫ! Сирия - а вот тут у америкосов промашка вышла - мы её не "слили"! Сами мы там не воюем, но поддержку оказываем не только "на словах", и боевиков там очень медленно, но верно выдавливают. Но!
            Во-вторых. "Очень медленно" на Украине для нас не приемлемо! Там наши люди (пусть многие из них пока и оболванены киевской пропагандой)! Сколько ещё нужно крови? В Крыму её не было, только потому, что не тянули время.
            Thirdly. Will the protracted guerrilla war begin? And besides pravosekov who there will be a partisan?
            В-четвёртых. Мы окажемся в политической и экономической изоляции? А разве не ясно, что америкосы добиваются этого, и исход дела на Украине ни как не повлияет на их "линию". Ребята, очнитесь! "Суд" уже закончился, обвинительный "вердикт" уже вынесен и обжалованью не подлежит! И согласно этому "вердикту" мы - "агрессоры" (см. результаты встречи Обамы и Меркель, результаты заседания Совбеза ООН).
            And now, the only thing that the Americans are not really achieving, but fearing, is the entry of our troops into Ukraine and the establishment of our control and ensuring the uninterrupted supply of energy to Europe. One hope is that Putin has a plan, and its implementation takes some time, it’s only a pity that time is running out and people are dying.
            1. sergio6769
              sergio6769 3 May 2014 11: 46 New
              +3
              I agree completely good
            2. Elle-elle
              Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 57 New
              +1
              Thank. Very sound thoughts, even the mood somehow improved.
            3. Corsair
              Corsair 3 May 2014 14: 08 New
              +2
              Цитата: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
              Сирия - а вот тут у америкосов промашка вышла - мы её не "слили"!

              К Сирии мы "подросли и поумнели",а вот хватит ли решимости продемонстрировать и проявить эти качества в the territory of?
            4. svd-xnumx
              svd-xnumx 3 May 2014 15: 01 New
              +2
              американцы с европой добиваются от России признания власти в киеве любой ценой.введём мы войска,не введём пока не признаем хунту будем виноваты.Они ждут что Россия, как тот шахтёр что работал во время майдана,а теперь должен отдать часть зарплаты на востановление киева,раскошелится на помощь "незалежной"и ещё поцелует ручку обаме из барака за оказанную честь.
            5. andj61
              andj61 3 May 2014 18: 38 New
              +3
              The only thing that could justify the introduction of Russian peacekeepers was the mass death of civilians. But after all, what happened - this is the mass death of civilians!
              For the Americans, if the situation in Ukraine does not resolve in their favor, we will still be to blame, all the same they will continue to play with sanctions. Therefore, their opinion should not care and help people. We do not need the territory, but we are OBLIGED to protect our people.
              The people will not understand the non-interference in such circumstances.
            6. Vorodis_vA
              Vorodis_vA 4 May 2014 00: 52 New
              0
              everything was fine in Crimea for two reasons - full support of the population plus Ukraine’s fear for the south-east, they had no time for Crimea, it was necessary to keep the rest of the regions.
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 3 May 2014 15: 35 New
            +5
            Quote: Corsair
            Крым "возьмём за скобки"...

            And what to take him as a parenthesis? Crimea immediately said - to Russia and no nails, and immediately received help, the East and South of Ukraine hesitates, independence, federalization, how Russia can help if they themselves can not decide.
            Bandera won no doubt-wet Russian and that's it.
        2. tds-8_78
          tds-8_78 3 May 2014 10: 06 New
          +1
          Orcs are gaining strength
          1. Deadmen
            Deadmen 3 May 2014 11: 00 New
            +1
            but with us the same white magician.
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      3. Name
        Name 3 May 2014 10: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Shurik
        The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.

        NOT; WAKES UP. As if on a chain, and here we are not controlling ... This is not a monkey for you.
      4. builder
        builder 3 May 2014 10: 54 New
        38
        Yesterday in Odessa, a crowd of brutal youngsters burned people alive. Was Putin personally supposed to fly there to stop the riots? The entire Maidan stayed at home while a bunch of Natsiks raped the country .... the miners were afraid of losing their job .... now they are on strike to raise their salaries. You are Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians overslept your country, not Putin.
        It's like your wife is being raped in your house, your old people and children are being killed, and you go to work all the time and scold your neighbor - he is in no hurry to help.
        Putin will send troops when there is no other way out; he has great responsibility for his country and his citizens. We cannot know everything that our government is doing (not everything is shown on TV). Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot
        1. Maximus13
          Maximus13 3 May 2014 11: 13 New
          15
          I agree completely. Most of the people sit at home and do not want anything. You can’t force them to be free. Miners are only worried about salaries, in which country they seem to live anyway. 4-5 thousand militias per 8 million people? Where to send troops? Whom to support? Everyone is happy apparently. Putin’s hands are tied.
        2. kush62
          kush62 3 May 2014 11: 29 New
          +9
          builder. Very well and correctly said. What to shout at Russia. Raise the people of Ukraine.
        3. not main
          not main 3 May 2014 19: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: stroitel
          Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot

          Not in the eyebrow but in the eye! Very sure!
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    3. Gloria45
      Gloria45 3 May 2014 09: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
      Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)


      “The Russian side proposed to agree on the theses for the press, but the delegations of Western countries began to amend and failed to reach agreement,” said a source quoted by RIA Novosti.

      The State Department itself has so far refrained from commenting on the attack of “young Ukrainian democracy” on its own citizens. But European diplomacy gave its assessment. “The state’s monopoly on the use of violence must be respected in Ukraine,” ITAR-TASS reports, said Maya Kosyanchich, spokeswoman for the High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton. We will not sin against the truth, if the position of Baroness Ashton herself is the same.

      From yesterday's media news in France:
      In the riots taking place in the southeast Ukraine (Attention follows the apotheosis of lies !!!) Russian tourists are to blame, who are only busy with
      what provoke local residents to conflict. Provocations consist of throwing stones and injections of umbrellas !!!!
      Such news or the like is highly recommended by the Department of State throughout Europe.
      In a word, the information war has entered the most active phase.

      Ukraine: US Department of State Releases European Editorial Anti-Russian Arguments
      This is the largest propaganda operation since the Libyan war. Radio London is now in Moscow!

      The US State Department prepared and disseminated the argument, disputing Russia's position in Ukraine after the April 12 uprising, in which a military-pro-Russian station seized government buildings in the east.

      This is the second time since the onset of the crisis that the State Department is sending an argument against Russia to the media.

      If Washington can stop coaching pro-Russian forces by Russian agents, the rest of its arguments is to believe that there are no Nazis in the Ukrainian government and Nazi organizations do not exclude their law on the streets of Kiev.
      Revised click
      May 2, 2014 USA propaganda, Ukraine
      http://croah.fr/revue-de-presse/ukraine-le-departement-detat-americain-a-diffuse
      -aux-redactions-europeennes-un-argumentaire-anti-russe /


      Госдепартамент США распространен по всей европейской и атлантической прессе свои аргументы по поводу кризиса в Украине. Именно этот аргумент, что все это нажмите якобы "свободной" снова от нескольких дней до дисквалифицировать и систематически дискредитируют российскую точку зрения.

      said Obama, speaking at the White House with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

      “So for the German audience, which probably includes Russian television, I would simply advise focusing on the facts and on what is happening on the ground,” he added.
  3. MG42
    MG42 3 May 2014 08: 31 New
    22
    Is it time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, ensuring his safety?
    Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 3 May 2014 09: 05 New
      +9
      And what, as one of the options, even not bad. Under the Constitution of Ukraine, he remains the legal president.
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    3. Corsair
      Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: MG42
      Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

      He already did it. See the date.
      Putin received a written request from Yanukovych to use the Russian army in Ukraine
      He said this during a meeting of the UN Security Council, which is broadcast on the Internet.

      He demonstrated the letter of Yanukovych, who in Russia is considered the legitimate President of Ukraine from March 1 with the corresponding appeal. In the letter, Yanukovych claims that Ukraine seized power and Ukraine allegedly found itself on the verge of a civil war, and that chaos and anarchy reign in Ukraine. It is also said that supposedly life and security, the rights of people in the Southeast and the Crimea are at risk, people are being persecuted for political and linguistic grounds.

      "В этой связи обращаюсь к президенту России Владимиру Владимировичу Путину с просьбой использовать вооруженные силы Российской Федерации для восстановления законности, мира, правопорядка, стабильности, защиты населения Украины. Виктор Янукович, 1 марта 2014 года", — процитировал он обращение Януковича, заявляющего о своей легитимности как главы государства.

      Further, the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation showed the UN Security Council members a photocopy of the original appeal of Yanukovych to Putin.
      http://www.unian.net/
      1. MG42
        MG42 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
        +8
        He asked from Rostov ?, another matter, for example, from Donetsk, especially against the background of yesterday’s events in Odessa, everyone here still didn’t realize what happened simply, TVRO twisted the information as an accident people suffered.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 3 May 2014 11: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: MG42
          UkroTV twist Old as an accident people suffered.

          If territory U сборище зомби, то такое "перекручивание" всех устроит...
    4. ultra
      ultra 3 May 2014 09: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: MG42
      It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass,

      He is a coward and you can send him to Ukraine only by force, he will not go voluntarily.
    5. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 3 May 2014 10: 12 New
      +5
      It’s time for him to go to Donetsk if he refuses to give him a scythe
  4. mig31
    mig31 3 May 2014 08: 35 New
    +6
    Weapons, of course, are necessary, but human support is even more needed — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers, for starters ....
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 3 May 2014 09: 06 New
      12
      Quote: mig31
      need human support — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers,

      Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!
      1. shurik
        shurik 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
        17
        Miners dig even deeper to their did not get it. MOLE. angry
      2. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 3 May 2014 10: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Olegovi4
        where are those miners?

        Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise
        1. Beon
          Beon 3 May 2014 12: 10 New
          +7
          Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise

          So whoever picks it up for them? Are they going to live in which country? Or does it matter to them, are the fascists not fascists, just to raise them? Help Russia, but I’m going to work for now. It’s about as if bandits broke into your house, they raped your wife, but you, well, it's time for me to go to work, I'll ask you along the way of a neighbor, let him come in and help! You can help someone who helps himself!
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
          +1
          Dig do not dig - all the same there will be no salary. While there is something to live on, we must make our way to Kharkov, and capture airfields. And so, by the summer a mass exodus to Russia will begin.
  5. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 08: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Forget Yanukovych, he will not return to Ukraine, he is no one, and he himself understands perfectly.
    As for asking him to officially help Russia as a legitimate president, he can do it, but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 08: 43 New
      +9
      Quote: leks
      but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

      the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting
  6. dojjdik
    dojjdik 3 May 2014 08: 38 New
    +9
    now only the casting of specialists into the Kiev region and the arrest (destruction) of the puppet government of Ukraine; tomorrow it may be too late; -weapons are already full
  7. stas7
    stas7 3 May 2014 08: 39 New
    +9
    You can’t introduce the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. But you need help with weapons. Food and so on.
  8. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 41 New
    15
    Unfortunately, the civil war in Ukraine has begun. If Russia does not help, then Donbas will definitely lose it.
    1. kaa_andrey
      kaa_andrey 3 May 2014 11: 14 New
      +4
      Donbas will not lose if the people unite, and will not sit in holes. The lack of a single center for coordination of resistance makes it stupid and bloody. Squeezed one by one.
      The junta got stuck in a clash near Slavyansk. We need strikes at their rear from Lugansk, Donetsk, and Kharkov. We need a blow to Raisins - the supply center of their group.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 3 May 2014 11: 38 New
        +1
        Perhaps, a massive night raid of the Night Hunters is needed to clear all the surroundings of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk with one blow ...
  9. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 08: 41 New
    +6
    Quote: JoylyRoger
    And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).

    Somehow he listened to the radio to conduct FM. The program is being conducted by Vladimir Solovyov, and so he asked if you were willing to volunteer to fight in Ukraine on the side of the Donbass in about 15 minutes, about half a thousand messages were received with positive answers !!!
    So those who wish as you said will be enough !!!
  10. Foxbed
    Foxbed 3 May 2014 08: 43 New
    +6
    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....
  11. Gray 43
    Gray 43 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
    +6
    До сих пор не верю,что эти киевские самозванцы начали гражданскую войну. Одесса в крови,зато Запад доволен-демократия спасена,что ж-не пора ли начинать спасать людей из блокады? Даже если города не возьмут каратели,нормальной жизни не будет-также будут ПСы похищать людей,устраивать провокации и диверсии,а то и терракты,также не будет поставок продуктов,медикаментов,что то навроде блокады Ленинграда. Путин-мужик мудрый,старается чтобы всё было по законам,зная при этом что всё "мировое сообщество" сморкаться на них хотело,теперь,им не терпится развязать войну между Украиной и Россией.
  12. stas7
    stas7 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
    +7
    Remember Spain, you need to create a brigade.
    1. zavesa01
      zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 52 New
      +1
      How it all ended in Spain do not remember?
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: zavesa01
        How it all ended in Spain do not remember?
        But do you recall how far Spain was from the USSR, and did it directly threaten the existence of the USSR?
      2. Dubox
        Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 30 New
        +1
        I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

        Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.
  13. foma2028
    foma2028 3 May 2014 08: 47 New
    12
    I wonder how Yanukovych feels?
    Russian piece of bread climbs his throat or what?
    after all, at some period in a few days it was possible to disperse the Bandera maydaunov.

    Even in childhood, in a conversation between parents and a neighbor, I heard a new word - Bandera.
    He asked who they were.
    They said that this is not human, worse than animals and fascists.
    And many years later, these words are confirmed

    and the Americans are even worse and Bandera
    1. Elle-elle
      Elle-elle 3 May 2014 14: 07 New
      +4
      His silence at such a moment does not fit into his head so much that there is a growing feeling that he is simply not alive. Otherwise, the brain refuses to believe in the ongoing inaction of this president, so to speak.
  14. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 3 May 2014 08: 47 New
    13
    The spetsnaz of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was created to work in the deep rear of the enemy, committing sabotage, destroying the leadership of the authorities, creating revolutions, educating guerrilla warriors about citizens and remaining unnoticed! Guys, please work for the good of the Russians! Make Ukraine a normal state again!
  15. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 49 New
    +5
    И кем они там будут? Однозначно Россию обвинят, про каждого добровольца скажут "агент Москвы" . Сейчас все в руках нашего МИДа . Обвинить хунту в уничтожении русскоязычных, обратится с предложением ввести миротворцев. Остальное неприемлемо. Или кто-то хочет мировую заваруху?
    1. VAF
      VAF 3 May 2014 09: 18 New
      13
      Quote: zavesa01
      Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry


      Yah? belay Да "кладут" они ВСЕ и на МИД и на НАС..." с большим прибором"!

      I hope why .. no need to explain? wink
    2. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: zavesa01
      И кем они там будут? Однозначно Россию обвинят, про каждого добровольца скажут "агент Москвы" .

      Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest. (with)
    3. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
      +3
      these and so they say it! they even shout! ... well, it’s necessary to justify these words ... let them feel the difference ... when there are no special services and when they are there.
    4. kare
      kare 3 May 2014 11: 45 New
      +2
      Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry.

      The words and statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are listened to if and only if there is force behind the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and constantly plays with a brush and dumb reproach recourse
      From time to time as if asking How much, how much?
      If the constant interaction of a kind word and a cyst is interrupted for some unknown reason, then
      Pin-up dos immediately sit on the neck, and begin to crap on our heads request
    5. avia1991
      avia1991 3 May 2014 14: 00 New
      +3
      S.RALI EVERYTHING in the West to our Foreign Ministry and its statements! How many times do you need to verify this? States rule! And you need to talk with them only by force, and not in the language of international legal norms, which they themselves came up with in order to feel freer!
      1. sniper
        sniper 3 May 2014 14: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: avia1991
        And you need to talk to them only by force,
        Quite right ... Only even the Union had this power not enough, and Russia was not as strong as the Union was ... Alas ...
  16. taseka
    taseka 3 May 2014 08: 51 New
    +3
    Well, if we help Libya and Syria with weapons, then why are you shy of the poop west that hungers for our blood !!!
  17. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 08: 51 New
    +7
    Quote: Foxbed
    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....

    You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbas, for them he is a traitor for all, so many innocent people have died over the past few months, and why? all because at the most crucial moment, Yanuk fell out of the old for fear of his own skin.
    Why then did he not give the order to disperse the Euromaidan? but because he was threatened by the West that he would freeze all his accounts and his family would be left without money, and he himself would become a persona non grata.
    Only in the end, his accounts were frozen now, he is not a retired ex-politician, but for the fact that he played the right moment in point, his former country is almost covered by a civil war.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 08: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: leks
      You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass for them for all he is a traitor

      Who told you that?
      Yes, there are many angry at Yanukovych, including myself, but there are no other options. The junta went out of control.
      It will be necessary and the portraits of Yanukovych will again be at anti-Maidan rallies.
      There is also a referendum option, but a failure in advance since it can be conducted as an ALL-UKRAINIAN ADVISORY survey, the outcome is clear.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 3 May 2014 10: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: leks
      he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass
      Yanukovych does not need to lead anyone. His very presence there will significantly add to the legitimacy of the army of the Southeast in the eyes of the inhabitants throughout the world. This is all that is required of him today to increase Russia's activity in this region. These are the laws of the genre of information warfare.
  18. drujba
    drujba 3 May 2014 08: 53 New
    +2
    Everyone probably already has blood boiling inside and my hands itch. But Putin is silent, I certainly believe in his rationality and decisiveness, but he would sooner decide to act.
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 3 May 2014 09: 25 New
      +9
      Quote: drujba
      And Putin is silent

      Так и с Сирией он долго молчал.Вспомните,многие уже начали кричать"Путин Сирию сдал11".
      And then he threw the Americans through the hunker as the last suckers.
      He has more info anyway than ours, here you need to think, take it.
      Demand is with us - a ban in the worst case, and the whole country can answer for its shoals.
      You can't be wrong.
    2. evgenii
      evgenii 3 May 2014 10: 52 New
      +1
      buddy, I understand you .. I think VV Putin has not yet said his word .. He will say .. only how many men will die before this ....
  19. delfinN
    delfinN 3 May 2014 08: 53 New
    12
    Неопознанные "двадцатьпятки" должны периодически работать по скоплениям нацправосеков. Естессно обеспечить бесполетную зону от сучайных укропитекских "асов" и РЭБовцев.
    1. todhunter
      todhunter 3 May 2014 11: 27 New
      +5
      No need to spend our aviation on trifles, the main goal of our Air Force in this region is Amer’s ships in the Black Sea.
      besides Washington should be destroyed.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 3 May 2014 13: 10 New
        +5
        TODHANTER ... I liked the comment.
        I forgot to add ... - I think ....
        or in my opinion ....- Washington should be destroyed.
        Definitely.
        Knowledge of Roman journalism ... good deed.
        Although, I think .... there was no Ancient Rome.
        This is the legacy of the Venetian and Genoese republics.
        1. Tartary
          Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 33 New
          +2
          Stopudov, Rome were invented by the Anglo-Saxons in order to exalt their importance in a certain struggle against a fictitious and powerful enemy ...
          And in Italy Etruscans were the coolest!
  20. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 59 New
    +2
    Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.
    1. igor06161
      igor06161 3 May 2014 09: 10 New
      16
      Yes, and huh ... th on them !!! so everything will hang on us !!!
      1. voadmin
        voadmin 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
        11
        I agree completely, they hanged and accused us of the situation in Ukraine. All these puppet organizations like the UN and the OSCE are bullshit! It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!
        1. Tartary
          Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: voadmin
          It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!


          "Поспешишь - людей насмешишь" - русская народная мудрость...
      2. rezerv18reg
        rezerv18reg 3 May 2014 12: 48 New
        +2
        I COMPLETELY AGREE. for a long time everything is a foregone conclusion. what is the use of Churkin and Lavrov stupidly wasting time on truthful BUT meaningless speeches. Even if the troops of the Russian Federation introduce / do not introduce their reaction alone. Russia says the aggressor and we are right in spite of everything. Already a pity is the only event that this could happen in fraternal Ukraine. If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops. Unfortunately, our situation is complicated BUT I think that the GDP as always has a plan for this ...

        In conclusion, I will say one thing: RUSSIAN SPIRIT DO NOT BREAK. ONLY IN DIFFICULT MINUTES WE CAN COMBINE AND PUT A MIGHTY BLOW. WHO came to us with a sword ... AND WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
        1. Tartary
          Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: rezerv18reg
          If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops.

          У них там 20-ть "гусей" бесследно(?) пропало...))

          So what?
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
      +9
      Quote: zavesa01
      All dogs will be hanged on us.

      They will not hang us, but we will hang all the dogs.
      And that you are so afraid and look back. I don’t think that every gopot thinks about us.
    3. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: zavesa01
      Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

      Come on. They (dogs) have long been all hung on us. Che, bzdim from America? !!! Maybe enough already Obama and Merkel look back! Is it time to scold them already to bruises? What are we losing?
    4. ultra
      ultra 3 May 2014 10: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: zavesa01
      when Russia openly engages in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

      They will hang them (already hung), anyway!
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 3 May 2014 11: 01 New
        +3
        to decapitate the junta is possible only when its cup is full of evil ... so it was WWII
    5. Belarus
      Belarus 3 May 2014 11: 00 New
      +7
      And you understand when in any scenario, Russia was already there anyway and will be to blame. The only question is how much people will die in Ukraine, while Russia moves from words to action.
    6. yur
      yur 3 May 2014 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: zavesa01
      Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.
      You, dear, follow the world news or not? All these UN, OSCE, USA, EU and SO blame us for all sins. The UN Security Council has just supported the junta in the killings in the East and in Odessa - the state, you see, has the right, but they don’t see the leaders of this state as gangsters and fascists! Enough! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid. am
      1. sniper
        sniper 3 May 2014 11: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: yur
        ! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid.
        Yes, it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...
        1. yur
          yur 3 May 2014 12: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: sniper
          But it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ..
          Yes, I understand, and I don’t at all insist on the immediate deployment of our troops to Ukraine, BUT ... It is necessary to clearly, clearly and understandably tell everyone that Ukraine is a zone of our priority interests, that we will not tolerate an anti-Russian government there even in the first steps of entry we will respond to NATO accordingly. And then we are only talking about violations of the rights of citizens of Ukraine. Yes, it is necessary to speak and defend their rights, but priority should be given to the rights of Russian citizens and the interests of the Russian Federation. Up to..
          1. sniper
            sniper 3 May 2014 13: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: yur
            Yes, I understand, and I do not insist on the immediate entry of our troops into Ukraine, BUT ...

            Yes, hell knows what is right in this situation and what is not .... That anger strangles us from our own powerlessness, and we have information with a gulkin nose ... My soul hurts ...
        2. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 3 May 2014 12: 58 New
          +1
          They will call. But you can not send troops, but send advisers and instructors. More with weapons.
          1. sniper
            sniper 3 May 2014 13: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: DanSabaka
            , and send advisers and instructors.
            It seems to me that MANPADS will be more complicated than AKs, and in hunting stores they are unlikely to be bought, but there are no three turntables ...
        3. Igarr
          Igarr 3 May 2014 13: 15 New
          +4
          Snipe ...
          and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.
          The degree of affordability has recently fallen very low.
          No one will be horrified ... victims of repression.
          If properly filed all this in the press.
          .
          It’s become a veritable poet .... repression-aggression-presii ...
          .
          Kazlov must be wet.
          Definitely.
          Regardless of age.
          I think so.
          1. sniper
            sniper 3 May 2014 13: 26 New
            +5
            Quote: Igarr
            and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.
            I am afraid that there will be too many of these .... Almost the entire population of Ukraine, minus those who are now on the barricades, and there are only a few thousand ... It all hurts ...
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 3 May 2014 14: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: sniper
              I'm afraid there will be too many of these

              But don’t be afraid, sniper: they won’t be outraged against the junta now, she’s dear, of course, but the main thing is who the power is. So they are more likely to be afraid to oppose us - as they are now afraid to oppose them.
              1. sniper
                sniper 3 May 2014 14: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: avia1991
                And don’t be afraid
                It’s necessary ... And to be afraid and think ... This is not chess, millions of lives are at stake here, and in case of an error, you won’t be able to replay ...
            2. denort
              denort 3 May 2014 15: 09 New
              +3
              in the southeast, there are very few traitors, one or two have miscalculated. it's just that people are afraid to go against the junta without weapons - this is certain death. not everyone has so much courage; people cannot be blamed for this.

              but anger in Russia is increasing - that does not intervene and threw Ukraine to the mercy of the fascists and the Americans. all the writers on the forum - imagine that armed groups of fascists would roam around Moscow, would you oppose them without weapons? think carefully about it ... (knowing that, for example, Putin fled to China, there are no police, the troops are neutral).

              if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth. Yes, it can reach the third world war. but that would be honest, because now many people don’t understand what’s going on — some kind of undercover mouse fuss with obscure goals and meanings. people want the certainty of the enemy during World War II.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 3 May 2014 17: 15 New
                +3
                Quote: denort
                if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth.

                If you have been undeservedly accused, then you have to come and earn.
          2. Onotollah
            Onotollah 3 May 2014 13: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Igarr
            and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.

            This is the stumbling block.
            How many are those who are against Russia, how many are those who have their heads washed by propaganda?
            50 percent? Is that about 20 million?
            Wow camp dust. Here you need to think how to solve the issue.
            To introduce troops is a major civil war with the possibility of transitioning into a world war, and not to enter - it is already a civil war.
        4. Corsair
          Corsair 3 May 2014 14: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: sniper
          It’s all about the UKRAINIANS; if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...

          And after what happened in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Odessa, how many people want to feel like Ukrainians?
          1. sniper
            sniper 3 May 2014 14: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Corsair
            , how many want to feel like Ukrainians?
            I don’t know, brother ... There is no information, everything is shitty there ...
    7. Tartary
      Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 35 New
      +1
      Они (собаки) итак на нас все уже висят... Но, "поспешай не торопясь"...

      "Жираф бАльшой - ему видней"...

      However, the warrior must be kept at arm's length or in any case always in the pocket ... Which I have been doing for a relatively long time.
  21. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 09: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: MG42
    Quote: leks
    but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

    the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting

    This is the current government of Kiev for us and no one calls them, but for all Western politicians and rulers they are the democratic transitional government of Ukraine and this clique takes advantage of the fact that they are supported in the west.
    Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
    This is a concrete junta green light.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: leks
      Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
      This is a concrete junta green light.

      Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
      So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
      By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.
  22. zveroboy61
    zveroboy61 3 May 2014 09: 04 New
    +2
    The UN and other organizations are for the West, for us it is Rosiyu. Dot.
  23. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 09: 05 New
    +8
    До конца не верил, что армия откроет огонь по мирному населению. Видно "армия вне политики" это не про украинские ВС. Как потом в глаза своему народу эти " солдаты" смотреть будут. Это шваль.
    1. Himalayan
      Himalayan 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
      +5
      Enough self-deception. Those who listen to the orders of Turchinov-Nalyvaychenko and paid officers are the army of the junta, not the people
      ---
      Enough of Odessa to understand that the population (not the people) does not support the fight against the junta
  24. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 09: 12 New
    +1
    Donetsk still has a chance to announce separation, to mobilize. It is not too late to answer force by force. Otherwise, everything is lost.
  25. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 3 May 2014 09: 14 New
    +4
    It's time to start. That's just Deleted. Moderator Sniper. In any case, we will be bad for them simply because we exist.
  26. bars280
    bars280 3 May 2014 09: 15 New
    +1
    Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
      +5
      They just said on Channel 5 that the militias in Slavyansk asked the advancing troops for negotiations, but Avakov has not agreed yet, although this is the PAroshenkovsky channel, Svidomo.
  27. igorek45
    igorek45 3 May 2014 09: 18 New
    +3
    [quote] There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war. [/ quote]
    And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?
    [quote] but then it will be a real war. [/ quote] [/ quote]
    And what is happening in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk is not a real war ..? Or do you think this is a toy war ..?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 3 May 2014 11: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: igorek45
      Or do you think that the weapons of the First World War (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

      I will not talk for a long time about the relevance in modern conditions of the Mosin rifle in relation to an airplane (not an armored helicopter) and lightly armored vehicles when firing reinforced armor-piercing cartridges ...
  28. voadmin
    voadmin 3 May 2014 09: 19 New
    +4
    GDP is time to stop chewing snot and pain in organizations of hypocrites. Once he promised to defend, so let him take real steps to protect him, and not hide behind the talkers!
  29. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
    14
    From the blog of L. Vershinin ...
    Bolotov rents Lugansk. Julia bought it



    "А в Луганске, - к сожалению, это так и есть, -Валерий Болотов сдает город Матке. За деньги."

    Вот и "герои Луганска".... за бабло, если большое, можно и продать... людей.
    Видимо свой "неофициальный" угольный бизнес... ближе к телу.
    xxx


    XXXX
    Now.

    First.
    To everyone who reads: rallies ended, crowds ended, negotiations ended.
    The time has come for dozens and fives who will kill this foul; everyone who is not ready needs to step aside.
    And those who are ready, get ready.

    Second.
    The four scum who are personally responsible for today's massacre in Odessa:
    Andrey Yusov
    Vova Nemirovsky,
    Bene Kolomoisky
    and another freak.

    You burned 38 people alive to make Hurwitz the mayor.
    Calmly burned.
    All right.
    Get to you.
    Together with the spawn.
    No matter where the spawn is hiding, even in Haifa, even in the Innere Stadt, on the Universitetshtrasse (I understand, yes?).
    This is not my tantrum, so people decided.
    And I am pleased to know that.
    1. vlum
      vlum 3 May 2014 09: 38 New
      +2
      "сдает" - здесь еще не поставлено прошедшее время.

      And the fighters do not like the fact of some kind of negotiations by the junta ... And this attitude is absolutely logical.

      In general, so as not to write too much, we'll see and see. There, in the messages themselves, they speak of some ultimatums. So it will be necessary to wait for new information.

      ps I personally also don’t like attempts at negotiations, because it all smells really bad.
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    3. calocha
      calocha 3 May 2014 09: 40 New
      +1
      Let Mozgovoy take Lugansk into his own hands!
  30. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
    +7
    Бандеровцы повеселились...Сейчас "победу" празднуют....Зверье!
    1. igordok
      igordok 3 May 2014 12: 20 New
      +2
      ---------- --------------------
      1. T-73
        T-73 3 May 2014 19: 17 New
        +2
        Yes, such lovely girls. What do they believe in killing people?
  31. leks
    leks 3 May 2014 09: 28 New
    +5
    Quote: MG42
    Quote: leks
    Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
    This is a concrete junta green light.

    Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
    So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
    By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.

    This law is no longer important, and what's the difference already, will they leave the CIS or not, now in Ukraine such a batch has begun, the world will no longer be there.
    By the way, at the expense of sanctions against Russia, I’m sure they will be introduced in any case, that is, the third package, we will be made extreme in this story, the Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them, now is the perfect time to undermine us economically, and what top politicians say there about the undesirability of such measures, this lie will be introduced even if it affects them.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: leks
      Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them now is the perfect moment

      a bit about the economy.
      1. Crimea without drinking water, lack of electricity.
      2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.
      3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??
      4. Military-industrial complex and heavy engineering in eastern Ukraine focused on the Russian Federation?
      5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.
      etc.
      1. badger1974
        badger1974 3 May 2014 15: 32 New
        +7
        Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea
        1. we have enough drinking water, irrigation, there is some problem, but the private trader has long switched to drip irrigation from his own wells, by and large the water was discharged into the drainage and went to Sivash, because of which it was desalinated, the electric gas generators can cope shortage of watts in the network, and on our Crimean gas
        2 bridge, so it has long been needed. and it would have been built 20 years ago, Kiev constantly put sticks in wheels
        3.from ABM- by installing the Triumphs on Cape Aya well, actually the over-the-horizon radars for eggs, you can hold everything that is NATO on the Black Sea
        4. there will be no blackmail - in the course of the lack of power of the kiwi they will carry out a reverse from Europedia, so that payment for gas will be a European smut
        In short, everything is like nothing to the best
        1. T-73
          T-73 3 May 2014 19: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: badger1974
          Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea

          Pull out the defense industry, a matter of time. There is no irreplaceable heavyweight on Ukrin. Rather, the pipe distribution had in mind, but its replacement has already occurred in Russia. There are specific products, including for nuclear power plants, but that ... how to say, Turboatom has worked out its own. We set our turbines now, the old Kharkov ones will be finalized and at rest. That's the whole heavy work for them. Of Ukraine
  32. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2014 09: 31 New
    17
    According to some reports, the Bandera massacre who plunged into the train are going to Kharkov, where they intend to repeat this tomorrow.
    And at the same time ...

    Network...
    Excuse me guys, I'm writing from the LEFT PAGE! WE Contractors of military unit 3039 (the BB or the national guard as we were renamed after the fucking Maidan) in connection with the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE are asking you to block a part (Kosior 2a address of Nikolaev) WE are tired of this whim US, like Berkut betrayed in Kiev, they will also betray US NOW! BB and Golden Eagle with the people!
    xxxxx
    Это КОНТРАКТНИК! И у них есть оружие! Но они просят "сознательных" заблокировать их часть! А вот на деле встать вместе с народом .....
    So what can be demanded from ordinary, peaceful people who are simply not psychologically ready, do not understand how their own people who live nearby, go and kill, burn, scoff !!!
    Where they understood, they are fighting, troops are being thrown at them. But how long will this psychological shock last for the rest? Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?
    1. boozer
      boozer 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
      +1
      By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow? What kind of football is this? Feast during the plague straight!
      1. Anper
        Anper 3 May 2014 10: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: boozer
        By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow?

        Recall that the Cup final will take place on May 15. (in KHARKIV) In the semifinals, which will be played on May 7, Kyiv Dynamo and Odessa Chernomorets, Cherkasy Slavutich and Donetsk Shakhtar will meet.
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 3 May 2014 14: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?

      Probably so. It still seems to the miners that they are deep and will not touch them.
  33. evgenii
    evgenii 3 May 2014 09: 37 New
    +3
    How many more people should die while ours are watching ...
  34. Klim
    Klim 3 May 2014 09: 46 New
    +2
    It is necessary to introduce not only the southeast but the whole territory, and most importantly, so that the junta with its accomplices does not run away abroad, they must be tried.
  35. Dobkin
    Dobkin 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
    +2
    yes, the wrong country was called Ganduras
  36. Corsair
    Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 59 New
    +4
    The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May (updated)

    Where is the UPDATE, where is the information? In Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in 00.43 Moscow time it all ended?
  37. Earnest
    Earnest 3 May 2014 10: 02 New
    +9
    1.
    Quote: igorek45

    And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

    You can, and - great. The cartridges are only fresher, so that due to misfires and protracted shots in the battle there would be no problems
    If there are PTRD and PTRS, you can order a requiem for crews of armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns and self-propelled guns and helicopters immediately after starting the engine, and the calculation is easier to train than firing from a grenade launcher, everything is at the instinct level of a karamultuk arrow.
    2.
    Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!

    WE Contractors of the military unit 3039 (BB or nat. Guard as we were renamed after a fucking Maidan) due to the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE ask you to block a part (the address of Kosior 2 in Nikolaev)

    Поэтому и нельзя войска вводить, что (цитирую): "Революция только тогда чего-либо стоит, когда она способна себя защитить". Почему ПСы берут оружие где находят, убивают кого вздумается и когда хочется? Вот когда в новостях покажут, что: "ВС Донецкой народной республики сожгли на марше колонну ПСов хунты, ни один фашист из батальона нацгвардии не выжил", - тогда я соглашусь, что сопротивление началось.
  38. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 03 New
    22
    Maybe someone will come in handy (who is at the forefront) Hold on there
    vk.com/rufront Russian front
    I’m a military man myself and I want to give advice to people who stop the equipment with a human shield ... you can stand, lie in front of them, but this will not help, you cannot stop them if they really receive an order to break through (and as we know they already received it) , you cannot disable the equipment, but you can harm them ... So:
    1.Если вы подошли в плотную к технике, возьмите балончик самой стойкой краски и закрасьте триплекс (приборы для ведения машины, наводки, стрельбы, корректировки) Этим самым вы ослепите машину ... попробуйте вырвать или сломать антенну, так машина не сможет "говорить и слушать"! А без связи далеко не уйдешь!
    2.Закрасьте одну фару на машине - это будет работать, как система "Свой-чужой" Если к блок посту или к опорному пункту приближается машина с одной фарой, то смело можно работать на поражение! ! Я видел, что гранатометы и противотанковые средства есть! Увидел машину с одной фарой или колонну - работай на поражение первым, иначе они тебе уничтожат!
    3. Phosphor paint - allows you to detect the car even if it goes with full blackout at night! They took a condom or balloon and threw it into the car!
  39. vvvvv
    vvvvv 3 May 2014 10: 07 New
    12
    I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
    I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.
    Around damn balabol ... All speakers somewhere in Russia are only balabolit what bad Kiev authorities, nat. Guard and PS. Kill and kill. And they are trying to impress someone with this ?! And Yarosh is at the forefront, and mercenaries, and the right sector, and anyone. Most Ukrainians are intimidated and afraid to intervene, to participate, because they see that Russia does not support pro-Russian activists in any way.
  40. saag
    saag 3 May 2014 10: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: MG42
    3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??

    Tu22M3 regiment in the Guards in the Crimea
    Quote: MG42
    1. Crimea without drinking water,

    with drinking, it’s with irrigation strain and then temporary

    Quote: MG42
    2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.

    they were going to build it
    Quote: MG42
    5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.

    can a pendell from Europe wait for such an initiative
  41. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 3 May 2014 10: 16 New
    +2
    I am sure that the GDP will not include the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to go, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all of Ukraine from this scum, where the army and special subdivisions of the eye follow them it does not hide.
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 3 May 2014 13: 33 New
      +3
      Какой "армии и спец-подраздилений"?! Все нелояльные кивской хунте спецподразделения зачищены и всюду на ключевых постах активные члены Правого Сектора и т.п. структур.
      Most are enough to intimidate and force to carry out orders.
      А весь этот мирный идиотизм типа лагерей "Куликово поле" и митинги - бред наивных и глупцов. Только силовые меры могут быть. И Правый Сектор это продемонстрировал сначала в Киеве, а теперь уже по всей Украине. До России и пророссийских сил это не доходит. Нужен толькосиловой захват ключевых объектов и ключевых постов, силовых структур, чтобы проросийские силы легализовались. Вместо этого Правый Сектор облачает своих бойцов в одежды футбольных фанатов, милиции, армии и т.д.
      And pro-Russian activists are stupidly substituted, leading to some stupid and bespontovy rallies with silly chants ... It’s disgusting, disgusting and humiliating. That is why I did not participate and would not participate in any such events led by oligophrenics, at which you will simply be maimed or killed. Only weapons and the ability to defend themselves, only radical force measures and, if you like, the threat of nuclear weapons to the west. In the meantime, there is an empty balabolstvo due to the blood of those who trust and hope for Russia.
      За первого же убитого россиянина где-либо в мире должна следовать ракетная атака возмездия и чтобы каждая с.в.о.лочь в мире знала о таких последствиях. Примерно как делают Израиль или США. Ведь будь на месте России США и если бы гибли граждане США, то уже бы летели "Томагавки". Нас убивают, ведут террор разного рода против России, а в ответ лишь увещевания. Международное право не действует, США и запад не внемлют дипломатии, уважают лишь силу.
    2. Tartary
      Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: kod3001
      I am sure that the GDP will not turn on the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to wait, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all Ukraine from this scum


      Stopudov will not turn on! Just do not bite yourself and others from the inside ... We are waiting, sir ...

      Putin is not God ...
      But God rules Russia directly ...
      Однако - "на Бога надейся, а сам не плошай" - народная русская мудрость. (чуть-ли не со слов Суворова)
  42. Sib. Uralets
    Sib. Uralets 3 May 2014 10: 17 New
    +2
    Now you can’t do anything with half measures. Just sticks against weapons are no good. Russia must provide all the militias with the most modern weapons. I mean rifle, grenade launchers, MANPADS and soak them. That there would be no shortage of anything. And of course you can’t do without volunteers
  43. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: vvvvv
    I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
    I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.

    Patience brother .. (also such a feeling and anger) We can’t be wrong now ..
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 3 May 2014 13: 47 New
      +1
      Я понимаю. Но, объясните мне, как могло случиться такое с лагерем "Куликово поле"?!
      Didn’t know that the militants are gathering and preparing ?! And before, it was also in Kharkov and Donetsk! This is a complete doctorate of ldbdhp (I can not express myself otherwise) - neither mind nor imagination, just one setup and betrayal. Under current conditions, activists should be armed with firearms - ideally, but at least with a pitchfork, etc. And shoot to kill when trying to disarm them by someone. But the Right Sector and many who have long openly called for arming their supporters. Yes, and many are already armed. There should be military units in Donetsk - this is at least. Then Kiev will not have enough army forces to arrange ATO everywhere. And after all, in Kramatorsk, Slavyansk there are even fewer deaths, because people are armed.
      And there is the question of proactive measures ... It seems that there is no strategy, not even tactics. There is much to argue about, but unarmed people are notorious victims.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 3 May 2014 18: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: vvvvv
        как могло случиться такое с лагерем "Куликово поле"?!

        So people always walk on Kulikovo in May .... Is it possible to immediately distinguish who is where, and the fight started on the street first, and then it moved to Kulikovo! And here's another ...
        UPD.2 House of Trade Unions.
        1. He had police protection, until May 1. Removed under the pretext of holidays. But they didn’t clean it for Easter. There are 3 guards left.
        2. All the entrances to the building were hacked, and outside.
        3. Sleeves from Kalash and 9mm combat inside the building, the direction of fire - in depth.

        4. Fires on the 2nd and 4th floors, a picture - several corpses burned in one office and fragments from several bottles are in the same place.

        5. Tracks are destroying right now.

        6. A criminal case is opened against the head.


        And probably explains a lot!

        Западенцы отжимают "Седьмой" на прокорм. Это цена, которую они потребовали за усмирение Одессы.

        The seventh is already on fire. Militants set fire to containers.
        About two thousand inhabitants of Odessa are sent to the Central Internal Affairs Directorate on Preobrazhenskaya.
  44. Moldovan
    Moldovan 3 May 2014 10: 20 New
    +6
    Remember the story of Yanukovych. He did not want to use force because he was afraid of the wrath of Europe and America, and no matter what was later said that he had his hands in the blood. Remember Milosevic, remember the rest. He was afraid to lose his place and his money and lost everything, he was still hanged on him all those killed on the Maidan. Therefore, Russia will enter its troops or not, it is not at all important for Europe and America. In any case, all those killed in Ukraine will be hanged on Russia and all will impose sanctions against Russia. There will be no sanctions in only one case. If Russia ceases to exist and gives its people to the slaughter of America. Russia would have entered the troops 100 times. Do not enter not because they are afraid of America or the EU. There are other reasons that lie in the warped, raped by American ideology consciousness of a large part of the Ukrainian people. A huge problem is the separation of grains from the chaff. About half of the Ukrainian people are Russians with an unbroken psyche and consciousness, the consciousness of the other half of the Ukrainian people is distorted and destroyed to such an extent that they cannot be counted on to cure, which means these two groups of Ukrainians cannot live together on the same territory. Serious migration programs from west to east and from east to west will be needed. Otherwise, there will be a complete destruction of the population of Ukraine
  45. Dreamer
    Dreamer 3 May 2014 10: 20 New
    +1
    and new disasters like the Korean ferry and the Chinese Boeing await the world community ...
  46. saag
    saag 3 May 2014 10: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Sib. Uralets
    Russia must provide all militias with the most modern weapons

    If these militias cannot take what they have under their feet the point of supplying them with the same thing, then suddenly they will not be able to use it?
  47. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA 3 May 2014 10: 21 New
    +3
    the most important thing is to think over the economic situation, crush the economy. Russia has such opportunities. To put pressure on the countries of the post-Soviet space. Up to the full economic blockade of Lithuania, Latvia and other henchmen. To the maximum pressure on the Ukrainian oligarchs, one way or another they are dependent. Press without a public announcement, but only in those areas where we do not lose much. Completely abandon sprats, vegetables and other trash from Europe. Let the economies of several countries collapse. Also, the financial sector, it is necessary to destabilize Cyprus and play with other assets. financial sector, if you can think of it, you can bring down very seriously. The domino principle will work and Europe will shut up.
  48. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 3 May 2014 10: 26 New
    +1
    Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!
  49. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 29 New
    +5
    Here's the guys notice the pattern (whose guess yourself): Before the new year (bombings in Volgograd), the Olympics and February 23 (the massacre of Nana Maidan and the coup), Easter (the shooting of the checkpoint in Slavyansk), May 1-2 (assault Slavyansk, mass murders in Odessa ..
    Ahead is the main holiday for all of us. 9 MAY VICTORY DAY! It's time to answer .. Beat reptiles in the very heart of Russian and Russia!
  50. boozer
    boozer 3 May 2014 10: 33 New
    +5
    А готовы ли мы к Войне? Ведь это даже не Грузия. А какое мнение у большинства нашего, Российского, населения? Какую "свинью" подложит "пятая колонна" во главе с макаревичем? Каков будет ответ НАТО если мы войдем на территорию Украины? И таких вопросов полно. Лично у меня. Представляю сколько вопросов и многоходовых задач сейчас решает наше, Российское, правительство!
    1. yur
      yur 3 May 2014 13: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: boozer
      Какую "свинью" подложит "пятая колонна" во главе с макаревичем?
      Well damn it, if I start to be afraid of Makarevich, it would be better not to be born into the white light. Let that column of God pray that we are distracted by events in Ukraine. But soon, and we really pay attention to them, in general, hov, lads. angry