The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May

The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May

21: 25 MSK In Donetsk, anti-Maiden activists occupied the local headquarters of the Security Service and the investigative headquarters of the Security Service. According to the Internet publication Ostrov, the premises in which there was no security were occupied by people dressed in camouflage uniforms and armed with bats and fittings. The action involves several thousand people, the number of people is increasing. Activists hoisted the flag of the "Donetsk People's Republic" on the visor of the captured building of the UBSU.
In the city there are thousands of rally in memory of those killed in Odessa. People are anxiously waiting for the night: there is information that armored vehicles are coming to the capital of Donbass, obviously, in order to carry out a punitive operation there, reports Russia 24 TV channel.
20: 52 MSK The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry claims that citizens of Russia who allegedly took part in the riots in Odessa were detained in Ukraine.
According to the foreign ministry, "Ukrainian law enforcement agencies received confirmation of the participation of Russian citizens in provocations in Odessa on May 2." According to the version of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, the detainees "are already testifying."
20: 55 MSK Oleg Tsarev Kharkiv Khatyn is preparing:

20: 32 MSK Odessa is brewing a new massacre:

20: 14 MSK People during a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa died instantly due to the burning of an unknown substance, according to the Ukrainian news agency UNIAN.
"A lot of people died jumping from 4-5 floors of the building, the rest from carbon monoxide or burned ... I was at the scene and saw a large number of people who died. And it was obvious that they died suddenly, very quickly. That is, what kind of “A substance that released gas, and this gas very quickly affected people who lost consciousness and died on the spot,” said First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema at a briefing in Odessa.
19.29 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine issued an official statement that the Trade Union House in Odessa was set on fire by activists who occupied the building. This is contrary to scenes from the scene and eyewitness reports.
At the same time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine claims that "from the upper floors, the attackers began to inject incendiary bottles with civilians and fire at them from the firearms weapons. As a result of the attackers' use of Molotov cocktails, a fire broke out. From the upper floors, the fire spread to a large area. "

18: 50 MSK Ukrainian presidential candidate Yulia Tymoshenko called the burning of people in Odessa protection of administrative buildings, and the attack of the radicals on the Anti-Maidan camp as a peaceful demonstration. The politician also believes that Odessans were killed by saboteurs groups, and not by the radicals of the Right Sector.
“They (the dead - ed.) Have children, had their own lives, their own plans. All this was cut short by the fact that during a peaceful demonstration in support of the unity of Ukraine sabotage units were sent, who began to kill Odessans,” Tymoshenko said. which leads the press service of the party led by her "Batkivshchyna".

"We persevered and defended in Odessa, because the Odesa citizens began to pull themselves to help at the time when they began attacking the participants of the pro-Ukrainian procession, and were able to protect the administrative buildings," the politician said.

17: 56 MSK In Slavyansk, after the departure of the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) military observers, clashes between radicals and supporters of federalization began. This was reported by the correspondent. ITAR-TASS representative of the self-defense forces in the city.
According to him, 15 people were killed in Slavyansk, only four of them were armed, and the rest of 11 were civilians. According to the assumptions of the militias, "representatives of the" Right Sector "could organize a provocation of the next military actions."
17: 56 MSK During the storming of the Ukrainian Kramatorsk, snipers killed two people, the city’s hospitals are overcrowded, Ilya Dolzhnytsky, an activist of people's self-defense, told Russia-24 TV channel.
17: 50 MSK Address of residents of Lugansk to residents of Donetsk 03 05 2014

17.30 MSKOleg Tsarev - Statement from the South-East of Ukraine

17.25 MSK Odessans blocked the building of the regional militia, demanding to punish those responsible for the deaths
Odessans blocked on Saturday the building of the regional police department. About a hundred and fifty demonstrators express outrage at the police’s inaction during the riots provoked by Right Sector activists and the so-called “Maidan’s self-defense” that led to the death of 46 people.
They demand the resignation of the Odessa governor, chanting "Nemirovsky - the murderer" and threatening to launch an assault on the building. In turn, the House of Trade Unions, which on Friday was set on fire by extremists, citizens all day carry flowers and candles in memory of the victims.
16: 08 MSK Kramatorsk self-defense forces keep only the central part of the city, the rest of the city is occupied by security forces controlled by Kiev, reports RIA News. Currently, shooting in the city has subsided, but the militia is preparing for a new assault on their positions.
15: 27 MSK The Security Service of Ukraine offered on Saturday a new version of the events in Odessa, accusing the former Vice-Premier of Ukraine Sergey Arbuzov and former Minister of Revenue and Fees Oleksandr Klymenko of organizing the unrest.
At the same time, on the eve of this, the authorities in Kiev proceeded from a different version - about involvement in the events of the FSB of Russia - which the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation called delusion and total lies.
"The provocations that took place on 2 in May in the city of Odessa and led to clashes and mass casualties among people occurred due to external interference and were financed by the former high-ranking government of Yanukovych, who are hiding in the neighboring state, Sergey Arbuzov and Alexander Klimenko," message.

15: 19 MSK ITAR-TASS. OSCE staff members detained in Slavyansk with the mediation of Vladimir Lukin arrived in Donetsk. This was reported by ITAR-TASS by one of the employees of Lukin.
“I am very happy to be free,” said German citizen Axel Schneider, who was among the detained military observers.
“Everyone arrived in Donetsk, they feel fine. We are grateful to the representatives of the Council of Europe for the assistance they have received,” he said.
In addition, an employee of Vladimir Lukin added that there were no other tasks for the presidential envoy except for the release of the OSCE staff and, as far as possible, Lukin intends to fly to Moscow.
15: 10 MSK Oleg Tsarev's statement on the events in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk

14: 49 MSK The head of the Antiterrorist Center, Vasily Krutov, said that the Ukrainian military controlled the external radius of Slavyansk and all highways leading to the city. He explained that 14 security forces checkpoints were installed around the city. According to Krutov, the law enforcement officers manage to "prevent the passage of sabotage groups towards the city, the movement of weapons and material resources," reports "Interfax".
The Slavyansk militia headquarters reports on active clashes around the city. As representatives of the people's self-defense say, it happens in the area of ​​the settlement of Druzhkovka. Unarmed residents of the city are attacked by radicals from the Right Sector and the National Guard men, reports Russia 24 channel.
14: 46 MSK Street battles are in the vicinity of Kramatorsk. Snipers are aimed fire from the upper floors of buildings. According to the headquarters of self-defense, there are dead and injured, reports channel Russia 24. The exact number of victims is still unknown.

Snipers, controlled by the Kiev authorities, occupied high-rise buildings and firing from there. The fighting takes place on the streets of the city, a special correspondent of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company informs.
The fact that the Ukrainian security forces continue the operation in Kramatorsk, despite the resistance of the militia, was written on Facebook by the Acting Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. According to him, "there is a dense fire in the city."
14: 31 MSK The National Guard under armored vehicles entered the city of Kramatorsk, after the roadblocks broke through. There was shooting in several areas inside the city. Part of the technology got up near the airfield in Kramatorsk.

They say from the site: "The equipment went to the airfield and tried to storm the SBU, then moved towards the street of the 19 Party Congress. The center is still quiet, there is no technology, the Executive Committee is preparing to repel the attack, according to preliminary data from yesterday's 27 injured and 10 the dead. "

The National Guard under attackers tried to storm the building of the SBU. Citizens take to the streets, blocking equipment with shouts: "Glory to Donbass!", "Fascists!"
14: 13 MSK The people's governor of the Luhansk region, Valery Bolotov, made an official statement: a state of emergency and mobilization is being introduced in the Luhansk region, the Kiev authorities are declared the blood enemies of the people of Luhansk region. The Ukrainian TV channels are disconnected, the aim of the united army of the South-East is Kiev.

13: 27 MSK The militias are ready to exchange prisoners, said the people's mayor of Slavyansk
"We have to exchange prisoners for the members of the Right Sector, members of the fascist parties," he said. “If the junta wants to exchange them, then we are ready,” Ponomarev added. He also noted that the release of OSCE foreign observers was not an exchange, but unilaterally.

13: 24 MSK The supporters of federalization and the citizens of Odessa who sympathize with them threw off the flag of Ukraine, which was raised yesterday by extremists on the Kulikovo Field, and burned it.
A scuffle occurred during the removal of the flag - there were several people among those present who tried to prevent the activists. A fight ensued. No serious injuries. At the scene were police officers.
13: 11 MSK Activist: militia groups moved from the Crimea to help Slavyansk
"In Slavyansk, our guys are reporting that they are now reformatting, redeploying forces. We know that we have come to support the Crimea ... Two battalions of Crimean guys came out, which will join our struggle," the commissioner of the social-patriotic movement told RIA Novosti Eastern Front "Nikolay Solntsev.

According to him, the militia formed in the Crimea "are coming to our aid to fight fascism."
13: 08 MSK In Kramatorsk, in the district of the village of Belenkaya (Stankostroy), there is a battle at the checkpoint. This is reported by civilian journalists.
Shooting from large-caliber machine guns and cannons (presumably BMD) continues, tires are burning.
12: 50 MSK In the DNI creates a single popular resistance. General Mobilization Announced
In the Donetsk region in Ukraine, where on the eve of the authorities began to conduct a special operation using aviation and military equipment, mobilization has been announced, a unified national resistance is being created, the commissar of the socio-patriotic movement "Eastern Front" Nikolai Solntsev told RIA Novosti.
“Donetsk is mobilizing today, full mobilization has been announced. Our security forces are ready for full-scale hostilities, ”he said.

Solntsev said that "people today are going to the square."
“Today we will mobilize people into a single popular resistance, so that every citizen of the city, so that every citizen of Donbass stands up as one for his freedom,” he noted.

12: 47 MSK The prosecutor said 46 killed in the riots in Odessa
INTERFAX.RU - During the riots in Odessa on Friday, 46 people died, the prosecutor of the Odessa region, Igor Borshulyak, told reporters on Saturday at a press conference.
Also, the head of the supervisory authority noted that law enforcement officers are now conducting operational investigative actions on a number of criminal proceedings, including the fact of official negligence of police officers. As part of criminal proceedings, 144 people were detained.
According to the Odessa City Council, as of 09: 00 on May 3, 214 people turned to Odessa hospitals. Of the 88 applicants, people were hospitalized, including one teenager 17 years old.
On Friday in Odessa mass riots and fights occurred between supporters and opponents of the Maidan overnight. They were followed by a fire in the House of Trade Unions, in which the majority of people died.
13: 03 MSK The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine declares that it took full control of the airport in the Ukrainian Kramatorsk and all roadblocks around the city, RIA Novosti reports.
13: 00 MSK A video message of self-defense fighters from Nikolaev appeared on Youtube.

12: 57 MSK Protesters gather at the Trade Union building in Odessa.

12: 55 MSK Citizen journalists report that shots are heard in Kramatorsk.

12: 32 MSK Odessa blood transfusion station said there was a shortage of donor blood, civilian journalists report.
12: 29 MSK In the Odessa region a battalion of the Storm patrol service is being created, the UNN reports with reference to the press service of the local police department of Ukraine.
Candidates for service in the battalion must have Ukrainian citizenship, experience serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine or in other military formations, and have no criminal record. They must not be younger than 19 and older than 35.
12: 27 MSK The Kremlin called absurd the possibility of holding presidential elections in Ukraine against the background of increasing violence. This, according to the IA "Interfax", said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov. “After what happened in Odessa, against the background of how the spiral of confrontation unwinds in the south-east of the country, we don’t understand what kind of elections they are talking about in Kiev, in European capitals and in Washington,” he told reporters on Saturday.
A spokesman for the Russian president said that neither Russia nor any other country can no longer affect the residents of south-eastern Ukraine, who feel threatened by their lives. For the bloodshed in Ukraine, Kiev and "its Western sponsors" are directly responsible.
11.46 MSK In Slavyansk, the OSCE observers captured on April 25 were released.
11: 39 MSK The leader of the Odessa Liberation Movement of Kulikovo Field, Yegor Kvasnyuk, is sure that after the Friday events in the city a “partisan” opposition to the armed militants will begin
11.34 MSK The Belarusian railway has changed the routes of its trains in the Kharkov-Donetsk section.
11.02 MSK 42 people died, 125 hospitalized as a result of a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. The head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Odessa region, Petr Lutsyuk, was dismissed from his post, an official investigation was launched against him, the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine said.
10: 25 MSK The militiamen in Slavyansk report the death of more than 10 civilians who blocked the Right Sector convoy at night.
"Last night, in the village of Andreevka (a suburb of Slavyansk), people came out to block the road to the column of the Right Sector, formed a living chain, but the soldiers of the Right Sector opened fire, causing more than 10 people to die,"
- said Interfax on Saturday by telephone to the “people's mayor” of Slavyansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev.
He reported that, as a result of the incident, still order 40 people were injured.
10: 17 MSK The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Arsen Avakov, announced the liquidation of two checkpoints near the Kramatorsk airport in the Donetsk region, Interfax reports. Nothing is known about the victims or the victims.
Avakov wrote about the liquidation of two roadblocks in his Facebook.
9.20 MSK China is "concerned about the situation in Ukraine" and calls on the parties to the conflict to "maintain composure and restraint."
08: 04 MSK Force operation in Kramatorsk continued at dawn - Avakov
Divisions of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies beat off a television tower in Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, from supporters of federalization on Saturday night, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said.
“The operation was carried out by the National Guard and the soldiers. The active phase of the operation continued at dawn. We are not stopping,” the minister wrote on his Facebook page on Saturday morning.
6.22 MSK In the UN Security Council blocked the initiative to support the Geneva agreements on Ukraine.
5.02 MSK Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
1.45 MSK Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: историяthat "the separatists received weapons from the FSB" - a lie.
00.43 MSK Media: Ukrainian security officials began storming in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, television reports
00.35 MSK Co-chairman of the "Donetsk People's Republic": the date of the referendum on sovereignty does not change.
00.27 MSK The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: the death of people in Odessa is a manifestation of the criminal irresponsibility of the Kiev authorities. So the Russian Foreign Ministry responded to the arson attack by the militants of the Right Sector of the trade unions house, which killed 38 people.
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  1. leks 3 May 2014 08: 29 New
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    It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, first of all, small arms, as well as cartridges for them, RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communication equipment and dry soldering.
    And people in these areas are already raising their teeth to those who trample on them; they defend their right to live as free people.
    If it is undesirable for our government to send troops now, let’s help with weapons and medicines.
    These same areas border with us; you can also organize a corridor for both weapons and volunteers to help !!!
    1. svp67 3 May 2014 08: 31 New
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      Quote: leks
      It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk region, primarily the rifle and their cartridges, we need RPGs and ATGMs and shots to them, communications equipment and dry soldering.
      There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...
      1. Nicholas C. 3 May 2014 09: 05 New
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        Brothers, you are making the same mistake as Yanukovych. You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line. They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields. Partisan. Only then will they want the border. The case is for snipers and experts in mine explosives, for today's N.I. Kuznetsov. With complete secrecy.
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        2. _Forgiven_
          _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 09: 37 New
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          And you try to go out of town! A bunch of women snipers from the Baltic states are sitting in the woods and firing at all the cars. Armor and dol.bany guard with pravosekami beat with Kalash on everything that moves. Here on the site you are a hero, and you come to me in Slavyansk and show your ardor. Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road
          1. tds-8_78 3 May 2014 09: 50 New
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            Be patient. Help will be.
            1. aristarh 3 May 2014 10: 24 New
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              let there be no help whatsoever all that the Russians in the Security Council have already done.
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 14: 54 New
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                this is true, the Kozyrev diplomacy of non-interference in the process of the execution of the Anglo-Saxons “divide and conquer” technology has changed in no way.

                Russian help was and will be in the framework of "we are outraged" "we demand conviction" from whom do they demand? those who actually are the masters and customers of the third world war?

                laurels and his kodla is washed by snot and his ordinary employees are given diplomats in the faces around the world.

                everything that happens is happening by agreement of the Russian oligarchic elite with Western "partners", that is, Putin will not intervene in resolving the conflict, but in return will receive guarantees to pump hydrocarbons until the people of Russia themselves realize that they have completely thrown him
          2. kare 3 May 2014 11: 11 New
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            Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road

            And you work on no matter what
            And do not worry at all, the situation will resolve itself
            When they will kill and burn your loved ones, stand by and condemn
            Patience, it may cost recourse
            So work for your health
            1. _Forgiven_
              _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 11: 57 New
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              Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words
              1. Krsk 3 May 2014 12: 29 New
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                Good luck to you guys !!!
              2. Moskal 55 3 May 2014 12: 38 New
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                "Mobilization has been announced in the Donetsk region, a unified national resistance is being created. This was stated by Nikolay Solntsev, commissar of the socio-patriotic movement" Eastern Front. "
                Something like this ... Sorry for the repeated response to your comment.
              3. kare 3 May 2014 13: 08 New
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                Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words

                It is necessary to express more clearly. From the first post you can understand that only care is about work. What is your population, correlate with the number of defenders. Here and
                one gets the impression that many on the principle, my hota from the edge, nothing ...
                Don’t pay attention to harsh words, it’s from impotent anger that I can’t help at the moment. If you weren’t an elderly person in your arms, weak, you would have been with you for a long time. The best defense is an attack. Do not judge us, we sit and swallow evil tears while listening to silence ....
                But remember, it is impossible to simultaneously take revenge on the street and engage in charity. Either war or work
                1. _Forgiven_
                  _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 14: 21 New
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                  You also have to understand that they don’t give money for self-defense, that's why you have to - work so that you can buy bread and fight. It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that they will be able to deliver humanitarian aid
                  1. kare 3 May 2014 15: 22 New
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                    It’s sponsored by the Maidan that it wasn’t necessary to work, but here it’s already been taxed so that it’s unlikely that humanitarian aid can be delivered

                    I understand everything. Andrei. Only your situation on the Maidan is not similar. You are faced with a choice. Slavery or death. The dogs will not wait until you go to work.
                    With all my heart, hold on soldier
                    1. CALL. 3 May 2014 16: 36 New
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                      Ukrainian security forces began an assault in Kramatorsk, there are wounded, according to television



                    2. _Forgiven_
                      _Forgiven_ 3 May 2014 17: 57 New
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                      Thank you, we will try. Weapons are few, this is the main problem! smile
                  2. His
                    His 3 May 2014 16: 38 New
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                    Strange you Ukrainians are all waiting when Peti and Vasya from Khabarovsk or Kemerovo will defend your fifth point, receiving bullets in their hearts. And you? Therefore, Kiev did not become a city - a hero, unlike Sevastopol, Odessa and Kerch. Work on and don’t notice anything and your son grow up the same. Be healthy people
                    1. Thompson 3 May 2014 18: 51 New
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                      The new article is just for and about them! -Http: //topwar.ru/46364-smert-himere-pokayanie.html
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                  3. Buran 4 May 2014 05: 06 New
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                    Tell me where to send the money? How to help? I’m just, well, very far from everything that is happening, but I want to help.
              4. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 35 New
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                do not pay attention to him. lying on the stove he will fight with NATO. such as he is gorlopan and cheers patriots usually dump in the forefront of the theater of operations
              5. Skipper2050 4 May 2014 00: 04 New
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                Hold on guys, hold on, half of Russia would rush to your aid, but it's not so simple. GDP is silent, then something is up to, so there will be help.
            2. Thompson 3 May 2014 12: 25 New
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              Yeah. I watched the report yesterday. A young guy from Slavic said: everything is fine, everything is under control. OUR standing posts guard us!
              And he himself was not hiding behind his wife. Or am I the only one who misunderstood him?

              Everything is complicated. Or simply. It is strange that they only capture posts, but do not enter cities. What kind of tactics ...? To be afraid or to starve ...?
            3. Elle-elle
              Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 45 New
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              Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?
              1. Thompson 3 May 2014 18: 33 New
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                Quote: Elle-elle
                Do not judge and will not be judged. Are you yourself from there, from our militias, or maybe on hot spots more than once fought with a shank from a shovel against a weapon?

                Himself not from there. But he came out with the handle, not from you, but in Russia. And then, unlike you, all of us rose as one who, with what he could, walked with that! So they did not let those who did not have weapons! And everyone had wives and children and relatives!
                Therefore, I do not need us here either la la la. He who wants to is looking for at least one opportunity, who does not want to seek thousands of reasons! Maybe he wrote hard, but I think so!
                PS And to be straightforward to the end- Banderlog and Natsik, and ki, WANT and DO, and not only at home, but already at your place! Or are they all orphans and homeless? Learn or take an example from the enemy ... And stop whining
            4. Foooxxxxx
              Foooxxxxx 3 May 2014 14: 10 New
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              This is the problem. And who will feed? If all the opponents of the nationalists would quit work and go against them, they would not think enough!
          3. petrT 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
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            Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.
          4. petrT 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
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            Let's work further, wait when you are bent, women will leave for Europe to work. You can minus the nebudu here to breed snot. They burned Odessa, filled the sea with people, that only women live in Odessa, or this is a village of old people and children of 300 people, if you yourself do not spit on yourself, do not scorch, scorch, do not scream, hide in burrows and wallow at the feet of the right-wingers. Shame on you Slavs in Ukraine. And a separate huge respect to Donbas and Lugansk, they perish but do not bend. This is my opinion.
            1. kavad 3 May 2014 17: 53 New
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              I’m not repeating, not repeating twice, twice.

              Che for fashion write posts twice ?! They won’t read it the first time? Or do not understand?
              Write three or four for sure.
          5. Moskal 55 3 May 2014 12: 29 New
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            Guys! You need everyone to get up. How many people are in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Join your resistance. Urgently inform all friends and relatives in other settlements of the regions. Probably there will be volunteers from Russia, and maybe not only, but here you need to get together and act together.
            1. T-73 3 May 2014 14: 49 New
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              That's it - for everyone. Try to sit out - well, well. I’ll have to rest, most likely. If you take care of the children, then certainly not at work.
          6. avia1991 3 May 2014 12: 51 New
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            So you go to work, dear? To know that not everything is still so bad with you .. Until ALL rise, they will beat you! Minus how much will fit, but if in a city with a 120-thousand-strong population of 2000 fighters gathered in conditions of martial law - what can I say? !! Waiting for the Russian Federation to send troops? And if you don’t enter? !! Warehouses with weapons - they correctly said above - just that China will not be enough to arm, but no one undertakes to expropriate them. Why? Civilians "get up with their human shields"! .. This generally touches: WHAT THEY HAVE NOT UNDERSTANDED, WHAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ARE PUT ON THIS SHIELD ?! !! MOVE, AND DO NOT CHANGE! Ah, women snipers! In Afghanistan, the spirits were completely snipers - they shot so that no optics were nearby! And what was to be done - to sit in the trenches? Wherever we are now .. Calculate, and p ... d they shoot through, TVA-Ryam! At my very place, the hope is dying out on Russia's participation - the authorities are silent for a second day SILENTLY IN A RAG! LIKE NO THEM AT ALL - the weekend is not a trifle .. The Vedmedik only blundered on facebook (!!!) yesterday, which, they say, bastards - and that's it, SILENCE. It seems that it’s time for the people to act independently, no matter how late it is.
            1. kavad 3 May 2014 18: 00 New
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              Once so smart - come and help yourself. Cabinet philosopher ...

              "The Wedmedik only on Facebook (!!!) blundered yesterday, which, they say, bastards - and that’s it, SILENCE."
              - In-in, just like you blather, but not on Facebook, but here. Silence too, actually ...

              Participating yourself in this 3.14dez and building yourself as a hero on the Internet is a bit different things.
          7. Elle-elle
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            It’s also hard to read the comments of the Russians “couch troops, why are you so few, you are not fighting like that, nobody will help you” ... brothers, well, don’t you? There is no way to help, so do not peck, and it's so hard, it's really scary to go past the checkpoints to work
            1. ELECTRON 4 May 2014 00: 02 New
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              Why don’t you be so angry with our couch troops !!! The people are not gloating, but simply trying to express all their anger and feelings, even here ...
              I sincerely wish you not to bend and stand !!!!!
          8. Anisim1977 3 May 2014 14: 04 New
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            You're 100% right
            But we, the ordinary ones, will not even be able to get to you - the border is thoroughly closed.
            Try to open the Donetsk and Lugansk borders on your own.
            Not a small number of people from Novorossia still have a brain zombie, and only for this reason Our troops are not with you yet.
            There is still a great risk of becoming not liberators but acupants.
            I think this is the main reason. hi
            1. Nettle 3 May 2014 22: 33 New
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              For all ordinary. Ticket Krasnodar-Kerch 1200. There, in the volunteer squad, you sign up and go.
          9. T-73 3 May 2014 14: 40 New
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            You are right, brother. It just won't be. They shake you as they can. Russia is not just standing aside. I think that we are looking for a reason. We wait. To securely press down. What do you command me to do? This is not Crimea. There you 50/50. Who is pro-Russian, who is not. Do you think everyone here Anika warriors gathered? From some Topvarians it’s possible to assemble a couple of battalions that are combat-ready. Many served here. And they did not forget not only how to disassemble-assemble Kalash for a while. And that ramrod is a dual-use device
          10. dmitry_den
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            "And you try to go out of town!"

            You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

            Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

            The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
            "Russia for Russians" constantly sounds from the lips of "pure Russian boys."
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              Quote: dmitry_den
              Unfortunately, Russia will not help by force intervention. otherwise, Putin and his feudal lords will lose their trump card of their well-being - hydrocarbon exports.

              Crimea to you as an example.
              1. dmitry_den
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                Crimeans have not yet felt the everyday life in a Russian communal apartment. The euphoria will pass, and the usual problems of the subsidized region will remain with the growing discontent of other regions, which will reduce development payments due to the alleged development of Crimea.

                Yes, comrade Marshal, you take note of this moment, and after a year and two compare what will be done concretely for the Crimea and the Crimeans.

                Or do you still meekly believe the Medvedev gang, headed by a dvorkovich, shuvalov and other scum plundering the country?
                1. saag 3 May 2014 17: 14 New
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                  Why should they be subsidized with their gas? Or factories ..
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 18: 53 New
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                    wait and see. to raise the country not in a bathhouse with a neighbor
                  2. dmitry_den
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                    today they were just talking about the Moscow ZIL, where the director of the plant received 200 million wages with a complete decline in production under his command, and this is due to massive delays in wages to the labor collective and this is in Moscow and not in some kind of outback where the situation is even worse.
            2. kare 3 May 2014 15: 58 New
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              You're right. Now strategists are sitting here chewing chips and drinking beer.

              Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
              And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat
              The bestial indifference to Russians living in other republics since the collapse of the USSR is the result of the foreign policy of Yeltsin-Putin Russia, where even Russians are frivolous about coming to Russia.
              "Russia for Russians" constantly sounds from the lips of "pure Russian boys."

              How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
              Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
              Listen to troll, aren't you scared?
              1. dmitry_den
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                Quote: kare

                Beer, or rather that swill, the technology of which we were handed to us by the good west - I don’t drink
                And transgenic potato chips, pi-indosia technology - we don’t eat


                oh yes .. excuse me, Mr. goblin, now the Russian boys are pure for a sober lifestyle, to be always in shape and to drive the “chock” from Russia

                Quote: kare

                How are you different from those who alive burn people in Odessa
                Those scum burned with a combustible mixture, and you burn the minds of people with lies.
                Listen to troll, aren't you scared?

                I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

                Sit on the stove, man and chew your hydrocarbon cocktail until it runs dry
                1. kare 3 May 2014 18: 57 New
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                  I differ from you in that I’m not a couch who revels in fairy tales about a bright life. You, homodrill, go to any cemetery in your own country in Russia and see how your filthy power destroyed the people in the 23 of the year, and it was killed more than during the period of Stalinist repression.

                  One troll can always offend the majority with impunity, this is the privilege of weakness
                  My advice to you. Wipe your snot and try to be a man.
                  And about the sofa, Farahrut, etc. Schindant 1983-1984
                  Judging by your hysterical feces, I got you, thief smile
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 10 New
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                    I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia



                    before teaching others, clean your home
                    1. kare 3 May 2014 19: 22 New
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                      I downloaded it from the site of Russian Nazis from Russia

                      Well, why are you nervous. The family is not without a freak. I do not use this link. And I haven’t seen a dumber picture before. From where did you get this rubbish
                      1. dmitry_den
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                        unfortunately from the site of the country that defeated fascism
                      2. Stelth1985 4 May 2014 06: 56 New
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                        The word does not have the correct application. The word comes from antiquity and is written - in the gens (semantic: in the gens) - the first in the gens, that is, it means the first-born in the family. Therefore, please be careful with the words. As for this, so to speak, “composition”, this is clearly the work of underelicts. In order to pit people.
                    2. Buran 4 May 2014 05: 11 New
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                      This x..n first time I saw in liberal forums. You will not be one of these cases, citizen Makarevich.
                2. Legionnaire14 3 May 2014 23: 39 New
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                  And what and what, do you chew it yourself?
            3. kavad 3 May 2014 18: 01 New
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              Absolutely support about the "couch strategists."
            4. niki233 3 May 2014 19: 06 New
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              do not distort!
              1. dmitry_den
                dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 20 New
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                pull not pull and everything remains as old as the world.

                USSR helped Korea beat Anglo-Saxons
                USSR helped Vietnam beat Anglo-Saxons

                Russia was outraged when they bombed Yugoslavia
                Russia was outraged when they bombed Iraq
                Russia was outraged when they bombed Libya
                Russia was outraged when they bombed South Ossetia and only as it allowed that the geek from Tiflis began to kill, all the same decided to send troops.

                How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

                Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

                Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

                What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

                How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.
                1. kare 3 May 2014 19: 36 New
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                  How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?

                  Or are you waiting for NATO to send troops and establish control over Ukraine, and your churkin will be indignant once again at the UN Security Council and wait for the condemnation of those who pay the genocide.

                  Apparently Vanka Lapotnika is sobering the rumble of bomber engines in the morning and the explosions of bombs and shells with subsequent colossal casualties and irretrievable losses.

                  What are you waiting for? that your filthy gas pipe will explode?

                  How does your state system differ from the Ukrainian oligarchs are the same thieves rulers and officials. Your national swagger is very clearly visible from the side.

                  You are in vain nervous, it’s hard to get us crazy, we take an example from our greatest president in the world soldier GDP, and our hallmark iscourtesy
                  join us fellow
                  1. dmitry_den
                    dmitry_den 3 May 2014 19: 45 New
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                    I will join in the event that your GDP finally decides to bring to a logical result this is the project that ALL Russian-speaking people of the former USSR dream of

                    it’s time to get up the Teutons from the stove already officially declared Russia an enemy.
                    1. Legionnaire14 3 May 2014 23: 44 New
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                      How many victims are there among Russians in eastern Ukraine so that your generals swam with fat have the courage to show determination?
                      -We Shoigu like a hammer. What about you?
                2. sscha 3 May 2014 21: 15 New
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                  You seem to have washed your brain well! belay No worse than 25-year-old Russians living in Ukraine who shout: "about my nation and some kind of guy ..." How are you different from banderlogs? The fact that you do not shout: "Glory to Bandera!"? am And why do you need an alliance with Russia, if everything is so bad with us? It’s a contradiction to yourself - it’s not good (I’m softer so as not to offend). You noticed that your posts are just emotions and ...... But this from the outside is clearly visible! Much better than you my homeland. hi
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            Work is now protecting my home and my FATHERLAND.
          12. saag 3 May 2014 17: 10 New
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            or maybe it's better to deal with snipers in the green?
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              a good idea. pick up SVD and go
          13. Nettle 3 May 2014 22: 25 New
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            That's for sure. It's easy to make a sound.
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        3. 1812 1945 3 May 2014 10: 29 New
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          Quote: Nikolay S.
          They must be destroyed in their lair, in their Lviv and Tarnopol fields.

          Exactly!!! I repeat for the tenth time: it’s necessary to burn down the enemy’s den! In Glitzia, one must begin. The demoralizing effect will be exceptional when they stir up their viper burrows. This is where Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov (Kadiri Akhmadan kIant Ramzan) can help local administrations and law enforcement agencies forget that they are "power" forever!
        4. On the bayonet
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          I have been thinking about this for a long time !!! It is necessary to wet them day and night! No European restraint! So that the ground under the feet of the enemy burned !!!
        5. COLUN
          COLUN 3 May 2014 11: 31 New
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          Quote: Nikolay S.
          You cannot win only by defending yourself. After the house was burned in Odessa with people alive, as in Khatyn and hundreds of other villages and villages that were completely burned by the Bandera, the Bandera-Hitler Kiev junta of the executioners crossed the line.


          Bandera showed their whole essence ...
          After Odessa, no negotiations and exhortations make sense ...
          Unfortunately, "Good and a gun can do much more than just good."
          Bandera worthy of Sudoplatov’s Chocolates !!!
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      2. Tersky 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
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        Quote: svp67
        There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

        In Donetsk give out weapons
        03.05.2014 - 00: 56

        Supporters of the Donetsk Republic decided "to carry automatic weapons by fighters of self-defense forces and other persons involved in armed groups in the Donetsk region."

        This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718
        1. Corsair 3 May 2014 10: 38 New
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          Quote: Tersky
          This is stated in the official video message. According to the representative of the DPR, the population also has enough weapons, but its use and transportation are limited. Http://www.segodnia.ru/news/138718
          Where is the video message, and where do volunteers come to receive it?
          "Excuse" that they say there aren’t enough weapons - CRAZY, in the Customs Administration building in Donetsk alone, recently captured by 120000 (one hundred twenty thousand !!!) trunks.
          Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.

          And also MASS and MASS of "interesting" and "slippery" questions to people leading the (?) Uprising.

          Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???
          1. Simple 3 May 2014 11: 28 New
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            Quote: Corsair
            Why there is no MASS armament of supporters of the DPR.



            First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.

            And then massively can and "PS" arm, or hesitant.
            1. Little Muck 3 May 2014 12: 08 New
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              To everyone. To everyone. To everyone

              Now they broadcast on the air that a battle has begun in Kramatorsk.
              Ask for help. Right-wingers, the National Guard and other evil spirits climb.
              Infa from here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3Pw7fYlZo
            2. Corsair 3 May 2014 13: 59 New
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              Quote: Simple
              First, structures are organized, and only then weapons are distributed.
              Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl ...
              1. Simple 3 May 2014 14: 59 New
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                Quote: Corsair
                Enlighten WHERE and KEM the structures are being created, I will share information with comrades from Don.obl.


                Let them start with this, if there is time:

                Federal Law on Civil Defense:

                http://teachpro.ru/EOR/School%5COBJSupplies10/Html/der10020.htm

                In general, plans for a civil war are in all states.

                Is it all so neglected that you (Corsair) ask for advice in open forums?

                I think there is no need to explain the fact that the weapon is issued for signature (to have a passport with you) to the personnel of the military formation?

                Sincerely.
          2. avia1991 3 May 2014 12: 58 New
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            Quote: Corsair
            Will you wait when they burn you alive in the regional administration, or in another building ???

            In general, the impression is that Slavinsk was left to the right-wingers .. Ay, weakly attack yourself! It’s better to sit quietly - maybe they will stop there? .. It's not about ordinary people, of course. But the actions of the "coordinators" - more precisely, the lack of action - raise questions!
          3. alone 3 May 2014 20: 57 New
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            Quote: Corsair
            the building of the Customs Administration in Donetsk alone, recently captured 120000 (one hundred and twenty thousand !!!) trunks.

            At the customs of 120 thousand trunks? what belay
      3. _Forgiven_
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        And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have. I can’t understand one thing - there’s so much talk of Putin about the deployment of troops in case of further escalation of the conflict, but to no avail. Here in Slavyansk, people have long been waiting for the Russian brothers. There is no point in pulling, all the same, these Western agents continue to impose sanctions. What is the point of talking with them and convening conferences if representatives of Russia are not heard and continue to bend their stick?
        1. Rider 3 May 2014 10: 40 New
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          Quote: _Forgiven_
          And you try to get to that weapon. In addition, it will be, to put it mildly, not very useful in comparison with what the security forces have.

          purely hypothetically.

          Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
          "and you try to get to this "tiger"?
          besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

          and conclusion
          "but I’ll wait as allies, maybe they will set me free before the Germans finish my family "

          I certainly understand that sitting on the couch is easy to advise (I’m talking to myself)
          HOWEVER, this is YOUR family, YOUR home, YOUR land.
          THIS IS YOU GOING TO KILL!
          or do you think that those who stay at home are not touched?


          didn’t want to offend
          I have no doubt in your personal courage,
          but something like that.
          1. Corsair 3 May 2014 16: 00 New
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            Russian tanker in the field near Prokhorovka.
            "and you try to get to this" tiger "?
            besides, my T-34 doesn’t take him in the forehead, and he shoots me from two kilometers.

            But they "picked up" the same, and burned the "tigers" ...
        2. Corsair 3 May 2014 10: 41 New
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          Quote: _Forgiven_
          And you try to get to that weapon.

          120000 units of small arms were seized in the customs administration building in Donetsk, and WHY the militia is not armed, ask the leaders (?) For the uprising (?)
        3. Wellych 3 May 2014 12: 18 New
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          I’m sitting here thumping in powerlessness, but there is hope in the outskirts of my fading consciousness.
          Furious consulted with the confessor, the Americans crap, they especially follow one special command IL, they call him Doomsday Flight, four times he already flew escorting Putin to the Valaam temple, the priest says to concentrate. Furious is a liberal, but he is gathering strength for something serious, a serious kneading, hold on guys, I think help is coming.
          And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.
          1. T-73 3 May 2014 14: 54 New
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            Quote: Wellych
            And I'm sorry for the incoherent drunken nonsense.

            We forgive, for it is written without errors)
        4. Anisim1977 3 May 2014 14: 07 New
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          So we ourselves ask the same !!!
          We are also waiting for the troops !!!
          But we have no information, like Putin’s, therefore we are waiting for clenched fists.
        5. Dmitriy1975
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          I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows were burning all night, usually no more than a dozen, moreover, like at night and now the traffic there is terrible, the gates at the entrance No. 2 work like they open in an elevator, close it and open again. You guys will excuse us, Donbass, Russians, but damn these creatures just want us to bring in troops, if we don’t introduce them now tomorrow they will iron and howitzer you and only to draw Russia into the war, there is one little hope for a couple of jokers in the sleeve of the GDP, it is painfully quiet somehow.
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            Quote: Dmitriy1975
            I can only reassure you, if I may say so, in Moscow in the General Staff more than half of the windows burned all night

            Not more than an hour ago, I saw 12 pieces (maybe more, cloudy ...) of military transport aircraft flying in triples up to a kilometer in the west-south-west direction (I live about 80 kilometers from the border with Ukraine ) Il-76 identified 6 pieces, smaller planes flew with them, with a thinner fuselage and a larger sweep of the wing, did not recognize them ... Maybe it was not in vain that the General Staff burned light all night?

            PS The last time I saw this was 080808 ...
            I don’t know what to think .......
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          well, a kind uncle will come and do everything for you, and then you will blame him for not giving your family any money.
      4. Bayard
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        Quote: svp67
        There are weapons - two barrels for every resident of China ... Maybe it's time for the Donbass people to NATIONALIZE him ...

        Do you think it's that simple? Yes, near Artyomovsk in the salt mines of weapons for the 3 millionth army. they only guard well and the mine is mined. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU have only small arms, and the junta has armored vehicles, artillery, aviation ... you can’t trample on a tank, and it’s not so easy to decide on a total war with your compatriots (albeit distraught), although it was decided after yesterday I think most. It’s just that the Southeast has been determined recently, and banderlogs were prepared for about 25 years.
        But now there will be no mercy.
    2. JoylyRoger
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      And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).
      1. ZU-23 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
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        This is practically a minor civil war.
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          Quote: ZU-23
          This is practically a minor civil war.

          Rubicon passed. No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save. Hatred overflows the hearts of millions of Russian-speaking citizens who three months ago considered Ukraine their state, and who now do not want to hear this word. This is not even a civil war, it is a direct challenge to the Slavic world.
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            I agree, what is happening causes disgust
            1. Dmitriy1975
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              What is happening causes only one desire, the desire to KILL !!!!!
          2. igor_m_p 3 May 2014 12: 56 New
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            I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve. In my opinion, the time for talking has passed. No, you can talk indefinitely, but our diplomats are simply not heard. And they don’t hear not because they don’t hear, but because they just don’t want to hear.
            I am not saying that an urgent throw of tank columns to Washington is needed, of course not. But to show the ambassadors at the door and withdraw their, in my opinion, it is time. And screw the valve on the pipe to normalize the situation, not only to Ukraine, but to the entire geyrop ... Somehow ...
            1. Setrac 3 May 2014 15: 30 New
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              Quote: igor_m_p
              I don’t understand what else our government is trying to achieve.

              This is where everything is clear. Our government is waiting for the Donbass to move from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.
              1. sniper 3 May 2014 15: 44 New
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                Quote: Setrac
                from the idea of ​​federalization and independence to the idea of ​​joining the Russian Federation.
                I think that you are mistaken here ... It was from this that the protests began, the tricolor was hung out ... Russia, after all, is the same more profitable to have Ukraine as a whole state, but friendly ... Yes, and it is very difficult to pull new regions economically ...
          3. Sid.74 3 May 2014 13: 13 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            No federalization nor Ukraine, especially the junta will not save.

            hi Yes, no Victor since yesterday, no Ukraine! We burned it in the fire of the house of trade unions and in the burning checkpoints of Slavyansk! Now only: New Russia or death!

            The state of the Ruin sewn from the fragments of empires ate itself in a cannibalistic frenzy with hooting and drinking hymns!
            Where are those people on the site who praised the Maidan? With their tacit consent, Ruin turned into a mixture of the hellish circus tent and Somalia! Russophobia was thought to be the national fun of Svidomo Ukrainians, no, this is ordinary fascism! Do not forget that Russophobia is a sister of the companion of anti-Semitism! Who else believes that there will be European happiness in Ruin? You say European integration? I didn’t want to integrate at all, I took all the "best" from Nazism! Now I’m thinking if I have a plank if I see a blue-yellow rag in my hands, can I forget the photos shrieking people from the union’s house, if I don’t break too!
            Question to the Strategic Missile Forces, maybe at least someone will throw a berets on the control panel and put an end to the stupid overseas democracy No. 1?
            Nothing personal, only revenge !!!
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              In Odessa, on Kulikovo Field - several hundred people, the flag of Ukraine is torn

              Odessa, May 03 (Navigator, Artemy Glazunov) - Supporters of Anti-Maidan, outraged by yesterday’s events, begin to gather on Kulikovo Field.

              According to a Navigator correspondent, several hundred people have already gathered at the site of the deaths of protesters.

              The Ukrainian flag has already been torn from the flagpole building in front of the House of Trade Unions, where a fire occurred yesterday. Subsequently, the flag was given to the fire.

              People arrive with St. George ribbons, mourning bandages and flowers.

              The union building is surrounded by police. Some activists tried to break through the cordon, clashes with law enforcement officers began.

              As reported by the "Navigator", that during the riots in Odessa in Odessa, according to recent reports, 42 people died.


              I want to add only one thing: Odessans don’t go with their bare hands, everyone can do the “lighters”, chains, pipes, bits, adjustable wrenches, hammers, axes can’t be found all this! Don’t go like medieval knights with weapons to overweight, hide everything in bags, bags, backpacks! If possible, wear non-synthetic clothes, protect your eyes and limbs, you are easy to get by yourself, defend in groups, come up with neutral insignia, ribbons or some clothes of certain colors that are easy to take off when mixed in the city with the crowd, do not go alone then In groups, do not hesitate to ambush there is no place for officer honor, organize mobile groups on cars that can deliver the necessary things for “lighters”, find a leader from the military or the police (Berkut), a megaphone and walkie-talkies are not out of place! It’s also useful to find yourself "reporters" with good photo and video equipment on which they can and should shoot the faces of children, the public is similar to their deaths! And let groups of observers even from veterans with mobile phones who are sitting peacefully and watching where the young people go shouting Ava Ruin!

              After yesterday, it’s already a war at the hands of young children who are waiting for them, you and the whole Southeast now need to destroy them all, peacefully in silence and tranquility it will not work, organize yourselves with God! Don’t stop now, pardon me, it will be like in Slavyansk!
          4. T-73 3 May 2014 14: 58 New
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            this is a direct challenge to the Slavic world

            Everything went to that. The Union talked a lot about the decaying West, and so now it’s gangrene. IMHO
          5. Com T-64a
            Com T-64a 3 May 2014 15: 49 New
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            Dear, I think that GDP is waiting for public opinion to be formed by 1000%!
            So that in the heart of EVERY Russian citizen settled deep, black hatred of the Nazis, mattresses and other evil spirits now living in Ukraine ... And then WAR, until the end .. WWII!
            I think so...
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      3. Salamander
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        I don’t understand why Russia doesn’t use Israel’s tactics. A couple of planes deliver a targeted blow to the headquarters of the punishers and we have nothing to do with it. America will scream and calm down. And the pioneers will understand the warning well.
        1. ultra 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
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          Quote: Salamander
          .A pair of planes delivers a point strike at the headquarters.

          To do this, it is necessary to suppress air defense, which means dozens, if not hundreds, of killed Ukrainian troops! The question is, should we go for it?
          1. igor_m_p 3 May 2014 12: 48 New
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            To do this, suppress air defense


            Iskander. And no air defense will help. Accuracy is sufficient. Range too.
            1. voveim 3 May 2014 13: 06 New
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              Right! Yesterday I wrote about this:
              1. Announce a no-fly zone over all areas of the Southeast.
              2. Embed "Iskander" (or something else like that) at the established places of the accumulation of all this Bandera gang.
              3. Communication and management completely hamper them with interference.
              After all, they were able to do this in the Crimea, can it really fail?
            2. T-73 3 May 2014 15: 02 New
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              Iskander. And no air defense will help. Accuracy is sufficient. Range too.

              He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important. Many doubters on the Outskirts. Forcibly sweet you will not
              1. Corsair 3 May 2014 17: 53 New
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                He took off the tongue. I agree. Only volleys will be illuminated. Moving is not a problem, but we will lose face. We return to the problem of not looking like aggressors. It is important.

                For whom is it important? The Israelis are doing nothing more than striking Syria without "losing face."
                Objections are possible that " territory U
                "It is populated by people we are not strangers ... but it should be noted that the Iskanders will be used not in cities and civilian facilities, but in military infrastructure important and critical for the junta.
                And all the more, always possible with a warning alert of the impending impact, so that l \ s was timely displayed, and the equipment came under attack.
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                  For whom is it important? Israelis strike a punch in Syria

                  It is important for us. Russia will never sink to a small-town state. IMHO
              2. andj61 3 May 2014 18: 23 New
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                Quote: igor_m_p
                Iskander. And no air defense will help. Accuracy is sufficient. Range too.
                He took off the tongue.

                Similarly. But, besides the Iskander, there are also cruise missiles, it is difficult to launch at low altitude - it is difficult to take air defense, and the launch is not so lit.
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                  there are cruise missiles

                  The game is much thinner. All hope for Putin's "silent hunters" that come up with - see. "Counterpost" at least believes in them. I'm inclined too.
        2. their
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          The whole world will scream about anti-Semitism, since there are all around Jews and Israelis, and the headquarters of the punitive Menorah in Dnepropetrovsk.
        3. RF citizen
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          For we must not do this. We are not enlightened Europe, but Wild Russia. When the Maydanovites seized the buildings - a peaceful protest, when people were hiding in Odessa in Odessa - they were burned like Colorado and separatists.
          That’s the whole point and difference. We all arrange some kind of graters at the UN, OSCE, NATO, and that’s just what this is for. Time goes by, people die, the fire of the civil war flares up, gets close to our borders. And we are "condolences, peace talks, free gas, energy, South Stream ..."

          Odessans are also “good”. There you are a bunch of guys, there are more weapons than we have in all of Siberia, sit and wait for the polite. Well, wait further.
          Excuse me, men, but you cannot compare with Slavic. Are you worried about everything for children and wives, that there will be nothing to feed? Yes, it’s not a question, law-enforcers will solve this question too: I’ll die in jail, I’ll die of your wives and children — they will not stand on ceremony. This has already been proven more than once.
    3. APASUS 3 May 2014 08: 56 New
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      It is necessary to organize the supply of WEAPONS to the Lugansk and Donetsk Oblasts, primarily to small arms and also to them cartridges

      There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war.
      1. cosmos111 3 May 2014 09: 34 New
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        Italian mercenary, among the punishers ....
        1. evgenii
          evgenii 3 May 2014 10: 41 New
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          is that damn-ahhh, that-oooooooooh ....
        2. svd-xnumx 3 May 2014 15: 09 New
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          on YouTube more than once links do not open where something murky happens, censorship in action?
      2. kubanec 3 May 2014 10: 40 New
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        READ OUT !! ----- but then it will be a real war .------ THERE IS ALREADY A REAL WAR !!!!! AND EXACTLY THE GENOCIDE OF RUSSIAN AND ORTHODOX POPULATION !!!!!
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          Exactly, wake up, and see if you have Israel-Bandera there nearby.
      3. Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 08 New
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        let war be better than unarmed massacre
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        Enough for the army, but then it will be a real war.


        There is already a real war, there is nothing left to lose ...
    4. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 3 May 2014 10: 05 New
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      Here are name-weapons and volunteer instructors. And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.
      1. poquello 3 May 2014 12: 35 New
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        .... And Yanukovych there, sick — not sick — HIS voters die there, whom he and his party betrayed.

        What for? Yanukovych is an extreme option, Ukraine will wake up and everything around is green and President Yanukovych.
    5. Anton Gavrilov 3 May 2014 11: 54 New
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      Yes, if we really supplied our weapons there, this operation would have already ended long ago, although it has now stalled tightly.
    6. Fitter
      Fitter 3 May 2014 12: 21 New
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      lack of organization !!
      http://anti-maidan.com/?p=streams&sid=bg-studio1
      in Slavyansk need coordination!
      1. avia1991 3 May 2014 13: 06 New
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        Strelkov in Slavyansk holds coordination, and obviously knows his business - well done, man! Only, it seems, he was left there alone, without outside support .. And the contingent is not personnel, disruptions are inevitable.
        1. T-73 3 May 2014 15: 05 New
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          Strelkov alone is not enough. Well done, of course, man. But don't tear. One without personnel support cannot take control of the situation, I mean the expansion of the sphere of influence.
    7. bandabas 3 May 2014 12: 37 New
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      Actually, our LORD PRESIDENT said "A". I must say - "B"
      1. ankh-andrej 3 May 2014 17: 50 New
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        Maybe it would be better not to say this "A"? Did not give hope for help? Would not rock the situation? And then somehow it all comes out ugly.
    8. Anisim1977 3 May 2014 13: 57 New
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      Yes, the masks are ripped off !!!
      Burning people in the whole building is already not human !!!!
      New Russia - arm yourself with whatever you can - destroy this scum mercilessly !!!!!
      Yes GOD give you strength and courage !!!!
    9. FunkschNNX 3 May 2014 15: 43 New
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      We need to arrange the supply of weapons

      Right now I’m watching the flight of Tu-95, Il-76 and Tu-22M3 towards the Crimea. They are not 2-3 here, I won’t say exactly where and how many, so as not to shoot ahead of time. They go very low, probably not to light ahead of time. Given that several ships with IJES hang out in the Black Sea, I think NATO already knows about these aircraft. But that would not harm my own, I will not say whether they are armed or not. God forbid enough demonstrations to cool the ardor of these scumbags.
      1. FunkschNNX 3 May 2014 17: 02 New
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        Correction: the Tu-160 White Swan is also with him, and according to my personal classification - “The last argument of Russian diplomacy.”

        PS The tanker went in the opposite direction, I think the bombers landed on the destination airfield. Well, or gone on purpose; joke, God forbid of course.
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      If here the truth is what they are talking about, then maybe in Slavic not everything is lost
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      It is necessary to organize a corridor, to bring out purely civilians (women, children, the elderly), it will be calmer. The weapon is necessary and normal, with ammunition in large quantities. The GDP has probably sent specialists there.
  2. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 08: 30 New
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    Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
    Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)
    1. Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 35 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

      Where is the expression of this rage?
      In addition to the diplomatic politeness and the "concern about the situation" WHILE (?) No action ...
      1. SANAY 3 May 2014 10: 30 New
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        And stop calling them "partners" !!!! It's time to move on to "opponents", then to "rivals", "ill-wishers", "pests" and "opponents" !!!!!!!!!
      2. Little Muck 3 May 2014 10: 44 New
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        Quote: Corsair
        In addition to the diplomatic politeness and the "concern about the situation" WHILE (?) No action ...

        Yeah. And how do you want to see the "Squadrons" in action and do not need to suppress air defense and the distance should be enough to demoralize the junta.
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        Quote: Corsair

        Where is the expression of this rage?
        In addition to the diplomatic politeness and the "concern about the situation" WHILE (?) No action ...

        Diplomatic efforts will not lead to anything. For the west, our statements are only a concussion. The longer we delay, the more blood will be shed in Ukraine. Sanctions will still apply to us, if not now then later. If we abandon the Southeast, the Maidan will be in the red of mercy. So we have no options. The rejection of its sphere of influence in Europe turned out to be a fire for Russia near its own border. And how many liberal women shouted in the 90s - "Why should we all feed?" Now we are paying for this, because the wider the zone of influence of the state, the higher its security.
      5. Elle-elle
        Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 54 New
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        Deeply shocked? Now, it remains to express "deep concern" and - another diplomatic curtsy - "to express deep condolences to the dead and call on the Kiev authorities to de-escalate," though for the fifth time, but diplomacy, why ...
    2. shurik 3 May 2014 09: 39 New
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      The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.
      1. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
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        Quote: Corsair
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)

        Where is the expression of this rage?
        In addition to the diplomatic politeness and the "concern about the situation" WHILE (?) No action ...

        Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)
        1. Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
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          Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

          Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
          Then they started to "focus", and the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

          Crimea, "take it out of the box" ...
          1. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 01 New
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            Quote: Corsair
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Russia is focusing ... So I can answer! The blow must be pointed and lightning fast .. (in the current situation, Russia has no right to make a mistake)

            Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
            Then they started to "focus", and the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

            Crimea, "take it out of the box" ...

            And what do you offer "drafts bare and forth"? They are only expecting this from us .. The UN shed blood is silent .. And the manifestations, as you know (columns of armored vehicles at gas relocations ... ??) 3 helicopters were shot down and not from a rubyka .. Self-defense units are being formed now. Work is ongoing and we will soon we learn .. And shouting "everything is gone Russia is about ... smiling) It sounds on all Bandera sites now ..
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            2. Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 15 New
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              And what do you offer "drafts bare and forth"?

              I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

              Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.
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                Pacificus 3 May 2014 15: 45 New
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                But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola.

                ... and US is not in Ukraine;) I officially declare ... bully
            3. avia1991 3 May 2014 13: 15 New
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              Quote: MIKHAN
              And what do you offer "drafts bare and forth"?

              You do not admit that you wishful thinking? The situation became hot not yesterday. HOW MUCH DO I NEED TIME FOR THE GENERAL STAFF AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL TO WORK OUT AN ACTION PLAN ?? DAY, WEEK ??? MONTH??? They already had longer terms! And the reaction is zero! So it will be necessary for the Southeast to go to Kadyrov for help! .. I want to scream: VLAAAAST !!! YOU ARE WHEREER? !!! Russia is already guilty everywhere, and no one will do anything to us worse than it is! So it is necessary to create at least something of what we are accused of - so that it would not be offensive! Are we urged to take all measures to de-escalate the conflict ?! !! So you need to meet them! GATHER THESE RIGHTS ON ALL BUSHES TO THE WEST BORDER! AND EVERYTHING - THE CONFLICT WILL END!
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                and work in the southeast according to whose are you doing?
          2. Mihaylo Tishayshiy 3 May 2014 11: 38 New
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            Quote: Corsair
            Such a comment is relevant for events in Kiev in the period January - February ...
            Then they started to "focus", and the manifestations of this WHERE? At least indirect?

            Corsair, in spite of our skirmish yesterday, today I support you. In the comments to the article that you did not like yesterday, there is a video in which interesting things are revealed. Right now, we have received widespread support for the idea that the Americans want to involve Russia at all costs in the military conflict in Ukraine. And we are no longer in it, are we? According to the rhetoric of the West at all political venues (UN, etc.), according to the sanctions that are being adopted, we are at its very epicenter! You can, of course, now, as Pierre Bezukhov in War and Peace, how to roam plague and be stunned to look at fire, blood, death and tears, but not to pick up weapons. "Preventing Russia from being drawn into a bloody conflict" - this is all from the Cunning!
            Firstly. How did the conflicts of recent years end, where we did not "get involved"? Yugoslavia - to pieces! Afghanistan - IN THE SMOKE! Iraq - DUST! Libya - IN THE RIP! Syria - and here the Americans missed the mark - we didn’t "merge" it! We ourselves are not fighting there, but we provide support not only "in words", and the militants there are very slowly, but surely squeezed out. But!
            Secondly. "Very slow" in Ukraine is not acceptable for us! Our people are there (even though many of them have been duped by Kiev propaganda so far)! How much more blood is needed? She was not in the Crimea, just because they did not drag out time.
            Thirdly. Will the protracted guerrilla war begin? And besides pravosekov who there will be a partisan?
            Fourth. Will we find ourselves in political and economic isolation? Is it not clear that the Americans are achieving this, and the outcome of the case in Ukraine will not affect their “line” in any way. Guys, wake up! The “trial” has already ended, the guilty “verdict” has already been passed and is not subject to appeal! And according to this "verdict" we are the "aggressors" (see the results of the meeting between Obama and Merkel, the results of the UN Security Council meeting).
            And now, the only thing that the Americans are not really achieving, but fearing, is the entry of our troops into Ukraine and the establishment of our control and ensuring the uninterrupted supply of energy to Europe. One hope is that Putin has a plan, and its implementation takes some time, it’s only a pity that time is running out and people are dying.
            1. sergio6769 3 May 2014 11: 46 New
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              I agree completely good
            2. Elle-elle
              Elle-elle 3 May 2014 13: 57 New
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              Thank. Very sound thoughts, even the mood somehow improved.
            3. Corsair 3 May 2014 14: 08 New
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              Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
              Syria - and here the Americans missed the mark - we didn’t "merge" it!

              To Syria, we “grew up and wiser”, but is there enough determination to demonstrate and demonstrate these qualities in the territory of?
            4. svd-xnumx 3 May 2014 15: 01 New
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              Americans and Europe are seeking from Russia recognition of power in Kiev at all costs. We will introduce troops, we will not deploy until we recognize the junta and we will be guilty. They expect that Russia, like the miner who worked during the Maidan, and now must give part of his salary to restore Kiev, fork out to the aid of "non-stop" and still kiss the handle of the obama from the barracks for the honor.
            5. andj61 3 May 2014 18: 38 New
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              The only thing that could justify the introduction of Russian peacekeepers was the mass death of civilians. But after all, what happened - this is the mass death of civilians!
              For the Americans, if the situation in Ukraine does not resolve in their favor, we will still be to blame, all the same they will continue to play with sanctions. Therefore, their opinion should not care and help people. We do not need the territory, but we are OBLIGED to protect our people.
              The people will not understand the non-interference in such circumstances.
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              everything was fine in Crimea for two reasons - full support of the population plus Ukraine’s fear for the south-east, they had no time for Crimea, it was necessary to keep the rest of the regions.
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            Quote: Corsair
            Crimea, "take it out of the box" ...

            And what to take him as a parenthesis? Crimea immediately said - to Russia and no nails, and immediately received help, the East and South of Ukraine hesitates, independence, federalization, how Russia can help if they themselves can not decide.
            Bandera won no doubt-wet Russian and that's it.
        2. tds-8_78 3 May 2014 10: 06 New
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          Orcs are gaining strength
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            but with us the same white magician.
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      3. Name 3 May 2014 10: 51 New
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        Quote: Shurik
        The Russian bear seems to have hibernated.

        NOT; WAKES UP. As if on a chain, and here we are not controlling ... This is not a monkey for you.
      4. builder 3 May 2014 10: 54 New
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        Yesterday in Odessa, a crowd of brutal youngsters burned people alive. Was Putin personally supposed to fly there to stop the riots? The entire Maidan stayed at home while a bunch of Natsiks raped the country .... the miners were afraid of losing their job .... now they are on strike to raise their salaries. You are Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians overslept your country, not Putin.
        It's like your wife is being raped in your house, your old people and children are being killed, and you go to work all the time and scold your neighbor - he is in no hurry to help.
        Putin will send troops when there is no other way out; he has great responsibility for his country and his citizens. We cannot know everything that our government is doing (not everything is shown on TV). Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot
        1. Maximus13 3 May 2014 11: 13 New
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          I agree completely. Most of the people sit at home and do not want anything. You can’t force them to be free. Miners are only worried about salaries, in which country they seem to live anyway. 4-5 thousand militias per 8 million people? Where to send troops? Whom to support? Everyone is happy apparently. Putin’s hands are tied.
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          builder. Very well and correctly said. What to shout at Russia. Raise the people of Ukraine.
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          Quote: stroitel
          Crimea pulled out of this lawlessness without firing a shot - this is quite a lot

          Not in the eyebrow but in the eye! Very sure!
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    3. Gloria45
      Gloria45 3 May 2014 09: 58 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Churkin: Russia is shocked by the complacency of the West in relation to the actions of the Kiev authorities.
      Russia has not been shocked for a long time .. The Russian bear is simply furious already (do not be angry ..)


      “The Russian side proposed to agree on the theses for the press, but the delegations of Western countries began to amend and failed to reach agreement,” said a source quoted by RIA Novosti.

      The State Department itself has so far refrained from commenting on the attack of “young Ukrainian democracy” on its own citizens. But European diplomacy gave its assessment. “The state’s monopoly on the use of violence must be respected in Ukraine,” ITAR-TASS reports, said Maya Kosyanchich, spokeswoman for the High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton. We will not sin against the truth, if the position of Baroness Ashton herself is the same.

      From yesterday's media news in France:
      In the riots taking place in the southeast Ukraine (Attention follows the apotheosis of lies !!!) Russian tourists are to blame, who are only busy with
      what provoke local residents to conflict. Provocations consist of throwing stones and injections of umbrellas !!!!
      Such news or the like is highly recommended by the Department of State throughout Europe.
      In a word, the information war has entered the most active phase.

      Ukraine: US Department of State Releases European Editorial Anti-Russian Arguments
      This is the largest propaganda operation since the Libyan war. Radio London is now in Moscow!

      The US State Department prepared and disseminated the argument, disputing Russia's position in Ukraine after the April 12 uprising, in which a military-pro-Russian station seized government buildings in the east.

      This is the second time since the onset of the crisis that the State Department is sending an argument against Russia to the media.

      If Washington can stop coaching pro-Russian forces by Russian agents, the rest of its arguments is to believe that there are no Nazis in the Ukrainian government and Nazi organizations do not exclude their law on the streets of Kiev.
      Revised click
      May 2, 2014 USA propaganda, Ukraine
      http://croah.fr/revue-de-presse/ukraine-le-departement-detat-americain-a-diffuse
      -aux-redactions-europeennes-un-argumentaire-anti-russe /


      The US State Department disseminated its arguments about the crisis in Ukraine throughout the European and Atlantic press. It is this argument that all this press supposedly “free” again from a few days to disqualify and systematically discredit the Russian point of view.

      said Obama, speaking at the White House with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

      “So for the German audience, which probably includes Russian television, I would simply advise focusing on the facts and on what is happening on the ground,” he added.
  3. MG42
    MG42 3 May 2014 08: 31 New
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    Is it time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, ensuring his safety?
    Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?
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      And what, as one of the options, even not bad. Under the Constitution of Ukraine, he remains the legal president.
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      Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

      He already did it. See the date.
      Putin received a written request from Yanukovych to use the Russian army in Ukraine
      He said this during a meeting of the UN Security Council, which is broadcast on the Internet.

      He demonstrated the letter of Yanukovych, who in Russia is considered the legitimate President of Ukraine from March 1 with the corresponding appeal. In the letter, Yanukovych claims that Ukraine seized power and Ukraine allegedly found itself on the verge of a civil war, and that chaos and anarchy reign in Ukraine. It is also said that supposedly life and security, the rights of people in the Southeast and the Crimea are at risk, people are being persecuted for political and linguistic grounds.

      "In this regard, I appeal to Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin with a request to use the armed forces of the Russian Federation to restore law, peace, law and order, stability, and protection of the population of Ukraine. Viktor Yanukovych, 1 on March 2014," he quoted Yanukovych as saying legitimacy as head of state.

      Further, the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation showed the UN Security Council members a photocopy of the original appeal of Yanukovych to Putin.
      http://www.unian.net/
      1. MG42
        MG42 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
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        He asked from Rostov ?, another matter, for example, from Donetsk, especially against the background of yesterday’s events in Odessa, everyone here still didn’t realize what happened simply, TVRO twisted the information as an accident people suffered.
        1. Corsair 3 May 2014 11: 01 New
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          UkroTV twist Old as an accident people suffered.

          If territory U a bunch of zombies, then this "twisting" will suit everyone ...
    4. ultra 3 May 2014 09: 57 New
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      It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass,

      He is a coward and you can send him to Ukraine only by force, he will not go voluntarily.
    5. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 3 May 2014 10: 12 New
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      It’s time for him to go to Donetsk if he refuses to give him a scythe
  4. mig31 3 May 2014 08: 35 New
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    Weapons, of course, are necessary, but human support is even more needed — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers, for starters ....
    1. Olegovi4 3 May 2014 09: 06 New
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      Quote: mig31
      need human support — the army, where is the army ?, or volunteers,

      Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!
      1. shurik 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
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        Miners dig even deeper to their did not get it. MOLE. angry
      2. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 3 May 2014 10: 35 New
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        where are those miners?

        Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise
        1. Beon 3 May 2014 12: 10 New
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          Miners are not up to it. They demand a raise

          So whoever picks it up for them? Are they going to live in which country? Or does it matter to them, are the fascists not fascists, just to raise them? Help Russia, but I’m going to work for now. It’s about as if bandits broke into your house, they raped your wife, but you, well, it's time for me to go to work, I'll ask you along the way of a neighbor, let him come in and help! You can help someone who helps himself!
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        3. siberalt 3 May 2014 12: 27 New
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          Dig do not dig - all the same there will be no salary. While there is something to live on, we must make our way to Kharkov, and capture airfields. And so, by the summer a mass exodus to Russia will begin.
  5. leks 3 May 2014 08: 37 New
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    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Forget Yanukovych, he will not return to Ukraine, he is no one, and he himself understands perfectly.
    As for asking him to officially help Russia as a legitimate president, he can do it, but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 08: 43 New
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      Quote: leks
      but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

      the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting
  6. dojjdik 3 May 2014 08: 38 New
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    now only the casting of specialists into the Kiev region and the arrest (destruction) of the puppet government of Ukraine; tomorrow it may be too late; -weapons are already full
  7. stas7 3 May 2014 08: 39 New
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    You can’t introduce the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. But you need help with weapons. Food and so on.
  8. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 41 New
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    Unfortunately, the civil war in Ukraine has begun. If Russia does not help, then Donbas will definitely lose it.
    1. kaa_andrey 3 May 2014 11: 14 New
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      Donbas will not lose if the people unite, and will not sit in holes. The lack of a single center for coordination of resistance makes it stupid and bloody. Squeezed one by one.
      The junta got stuck in a clash near Slavyansk. We need strikes at their rear from Lugansk, Donetsk, and Kharkov. We need a blow to Raisins - the supply center of their group.
      1. Tektor 3 May 2014 11: 38 New
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        Perhaps, a massive night raid of the Night Hunters is needed to clear all the surroundings of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk with one blow ...
  9. leks 3 May 2014 08: 41 New
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    Quote: JoylyRoger
    And volunteers, I think there are many who want to. It’s possible to organize PMCs under this business, not all the same with one mattress mattress. And it would be nice to somehow organize refugee camps on the territory of the Russian Federation, because they will. And the issuance of Russian passports (optional).

    Somehow he listened to the radio to conduct FM. The program is being conducted by Vladimir Solovyov, and so he asked if you were willing to volunteer to fight in Ukraine on the side of the Donbass in about 15 minutes, about half a thousand messages were received with positive answers !!!
    So those who wish as you said will be enough !!!
  10. Foxbed 3 May 2014 08: 43 New
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    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....
  11. Gray 43 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
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    I still do not believe that these Kiev impostors started a civil war. Odessa is in the blood, but the West is satisfied, democracy has been saved, so is it time to start saving people from the blockade? Even if the cities do not take the punishers, there will be no normal life — the Dogs will also kidnap people, arrange provocations and sabotage, and even terrorist attacks, there will also be no supplies of food, medicine, something like a blockade of Leningrad. Putin is a wise man, he tries to keep everything in accordance with the laws, while knowing that the whole “world community” wanted to blow their nose on them, now, they cannot wait to unleash a war between Ukraine and Russia.
  12. stas7 3 May 2014 08: 44 New
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    Remember Spain, you need to create a brigade.
    1. zavesa01
      zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 52 New
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      How it all ended in Spain do not remember?
      1. Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
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        How it all ended in Spain do not remember?
        But do you recall how far Spain was from the USSR, and did it directly threaten the existence of the USSR?
      2. Dubox 3 May 2014 12: 30 New
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        I understand that Russia was pressed hard and the deployment of troops is now not possible. But after all, we were officially not in Vietnam, not in Angola. That the government only scratches the language? Arrange the supply of weapons of medicines intelligence data and of course people without epaulets and documents

        Otherwise, it will also begin in Belarus, Kazakhstan and then in Russia.
  13. foma2028 3 May 2014 08: 47 New
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    I wonder how Yanukovych feels?
    Russian piece of bread climbs his throat or what?
    after all, at some period in a few days it was possible to disperse the Bandera maydaunov.

    Even in childhood, in a conversation between parents and a neighbor, I heard a new word - Bandera.
    He asked who they were.
    They said that this is not human, worse than animals and fascists.
    And many years later, these words are confirmed

    and the Americans are even worse and Bandera
    1. Elle-elle
      Elle-elle 3 May 2014 14: 07 New
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      His silence at such a moment does not fit into his head so much that there is a growing feeling that he is simply not alive. Otherwise, the brain refuses to believe in the ongoing inaction of this president, so to speak.
  14. Prapor Afonya 3 May 2014 08: 47 New
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    The spetsnaz of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was created to work in the deep rear of the enemy, committing sabotage, destroying the leadership of the authorities, creating revolutions, educating guerrilla warriors about citizens and remaining unnoticed! Guys, please work for the good of the Russians! Make Ukraine a normal state again!
  15. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 49 New
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    And who will they be there? They will unequivocally blame Russia, they will say about each volunteer an “agent of Moscow”. Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry. Accuse the junta of the destruction of the Russian-speaking, will appeal to introduce peacekeepers. The rest is unacceptable. Or does someone want a world mess?
    1. VAF
      VAF 3 May 2014 09: 18 New
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      Quote: zavesa01
      Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry


      Yah? belay Yes, they "put" EVERYTHING both on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and on US ... "with a large device"!

      I hope why .. no need to explain? wink
    2. Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 47 New
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      Quote: zavesa01
      And who will they be there? They will unequivocally blame Russia, they will say about each volunteer an “agent of Moscow”.

      Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest. (with)
    3. maxxdesign 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
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      these and so they say it! they even shout! ... well, it’s necessary to justify these words ... let them feel the difference ... when there are no special services and when they are there.
    4. kare 3 May 2014 11: 45 New
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      Now everything is in the hands of our Foreign Ministry.

      The words and statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are listened to if and only if there is force behind the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and constantly plays with a brush and dumb reproach recourse
      From time to time as if asking How much, how much?
      If the constant interaction of a kind word and a cyst is interrupted for some unknown reason, then
      Pin-up dos immediately sit on the neck, and begin to crap on our heads request
    5. avia1991 3 May 2014 14: 00 New
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      S.RALI EVERYTHING in the West to our Foreign Ministry and its statements! How many times do you need to verify this? States rule! And you need to talk with them only by force, and not in the language of international legal norms, which they themselves came up with in order to feel freer!
      1. sniper 3 May 2014 14: 15 New
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        And you need to talk to them only by force,
        Quite right ... Only even the Union had this power not enough, and Russia was not as strong as the Union was ... Alas ...
  16. taseka 3 May 2014 08: 51 New
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    Well, if we help Libya and Syria with weapons, then why are you shy of the poop west that hungers for our blood !!!
  17. leks 3 May 2014 08: 51 New
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    Quote: Foxbed
    Quote: MG42
    It's time to transport Yanukovych to the Donbass, providing him with security. Was Lukin able to fly charter to Donetsk?
    Yanukovych can officially ask for help from the Russian Federation?

    Maybe ... He is not acting president, like Turchinov, and the president who was legitimately elected in the election. It just seems like such a cycle ... A real PRESIDENT would not hide in a neighboring state. In Crimea or Donbas he would be supported by supporters. And he, in turn, could lead the general resistance pro-American junta ....

    You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbas, for them he is a traitor for all, so many innocent people have died over the past few months, and why? all because at the most crucial moment, Yanuk fell out of the old for fear of his own skin.
    Why then did he not give the order to disperse the Euromaidan? but because he was threatened by the West that he would freeze all his accounts and his family would be left without money, and he himself would become a persona non grata.
    Only in the end, his accounts were frozen now, he is not a retired ex-politician, but for the fact that he played the right moment in point, his former country is almost covered by a civil war.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 08: 55 New
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      You understand, he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass for them for all he is a traitor

      Who told you that?
      Yes, there are many angry at Yanukovych, including myself, but there are no other options. The junta went out of control.
      It will be necessary and the portraits of Yanukovych will again be at anti-Maidan rallies.
      There is also a referendum option, but a failure in advance since it can be conducted as an ALL-UKRAINIAN ADVISORY survey, the outcome is clear.
    2. Stanislas 3 May 2014 10: 38 New
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      Quote: leks
      he will not be able to lead those forces in the Donbass
      Yanukovych does not need to lead anyone. His very presence there will significantly add to the legitimacy of the army of the Southeast in the eyes of the inhabitants throughout the world. This is all that is required of him today to increase Russia's activity in this region. These are the laws of the genre of information warfare.
  18. drujba 3 May 2014 08: 53 New
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    Everyone probably already has blood boiling inside and my hands itch. But Putin is silent, I certainly believe in his rationality and decisiveness, but he would sooner decide to act.
    1. Onotollah 3 May 2014 09: 25 New
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      And Putin is silent

      So he was silent for a long time with Syria. Remember, many have already started shouting "Putin handed over Syria11."
      And then he threw the Americans through the hunker as the last suckers.
      He has more info anyway than ours, here you need to think, take it.
      Demand is with us - a ban in the worst case, and the whole country can answer for its shoals.
      You can't be wrong.
    2. evgenii
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      buddy, I understand you .. I think VV Putin has not yet said his word .. He will say .. only how many men will die before this ....
  19. delfinN 3 May 2014 08: 53 New
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    Unidentified "twenty-five" should periodically work on clusters of national law-enforcers. It is natural to provide a no-fly zone from the deliberate ukropitek "aces" and REB.
    1. todhunter 3 May 2014 11: 27 New
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      No need to spend our aviation on trifles, the main goal of our Air Force in this region is Amer’s ships in the Black Sea.
      besides Washington should be destroyed.
      1. Igarr 3 May 2014 13: 10 New
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        TODHANTER ... I liked the comment.
        I forgot to add ... - I think ....
        or in my opinion ....- Washington should be destroyed.
        Definitely.
        Knowledge of Roman journalism ... good deed.
        Although, I think .... there was no Ancient Rome.
        This is the legacy of the Venetian and Genoese republics.
        1. Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 33 New
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          Stopudov, Rome were invented by the Anglo-Saxons in order to exalt their importance in a certain struggle against a fictitious and powerful enemy ...
          And in Italy Etruscans were the coolest!
  20. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 08: 59 New
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    Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.
    1. igor06161 3 May 2014 09: 10 New
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      Yes, and huh ... th on them !!! so everything will hang on us !!!
      1. voadmin 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
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        I agree completely, they hanged and accused us of the situation in Ukraine. All these puppet organizations like the UN and the OSCE are bullshit! It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!
        1. Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 37 New
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          It is time to move on to fulfilling promises to protect the southeast, and not tryndet in a herd of hypocrites!


          "Hurry - make people laugh" - Russian folk wisdom ...
      2. rezerv18reg
        rezerv18reg 3 May 2014 12: 48 New
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        I COMPLETELY AGREE. for a long time everything is a foregone conclusion. what is the use of Churkin and Lavrov stupidly wasting time on truthful BUT meaningless speeches. Even if the troops of the Russian Federation introduce / do not introduce their reaction alone. Russia says the aggressor and we are right in spite of everything. Already a pity is the only event that this could happen in fraternal Ukraine. If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops. Unfortunately, our situation is complicated BUT I think that the GDP as always has a plan for this ...

        In conclusion, I will say one thing: RUSSIAN SPIRIT DO NOT BREAK. ONLY IN DIFFICULT MINUTES WE CAN COMBINE AND PUT A MIGHTY BLOW. WHO came to us with a sword ... AND WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
        1. Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 39 New
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          If 1 Americans died there, they would have long ago introduced their troops.

          They have 20 "geese" there completely disappeared (?) ...))

          So what?
    2. Little Muck 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
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      Quote: zavesa01
      All dogs will be hanged on us.

      They will not hang us, but we will hang all the dogs.
      And that you are so afraid and look back. I don’t think that every gopot thinks about us.
    3. Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
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      Quote: zavesa01
      Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

      Come on. They (dogs) have long been all hung on us. Che, bzdim from America? !!! Maybe enough already Obama and Merkel look back! Is it time to scold them already to bruises? What are we losing?
    4. ultra 3 May 2014 10: 00 New
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      when Russia openly engages in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.

      They will hang them (already hung), anyway!
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 3 May 2014 11: 01 New
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        to decapitate the junta is possible only when its cup is full of evil ... so it was WWII
    5. Belarus 3 May 2014 11: 00 New
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      And you understand when in any scenario, Russia was already there anyway and will be to blame. The only question is how much people will die in Ukraine, while Russia moves from words to action.
    6. yur
      yur 3 May 2014 11: 21 New
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      Quote: zavesa01
      Understand America is just waiting for Russia to openly engage in conflict. All dogs will be hanged on us.
      You, dear, follow the world news or not? All these UN, OSCE, USA, EU and SO blame us for all sins. The UN Security Council has just supported the junta in the killings in the East and in Odessa - the state, you see, has the right, but they don’t see the leaders of this state as gangsters and fascists! Enough! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid. am
      1. sniper 3 May 2014 11: 39 New
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        ! If we don’t do what Russia needs now, then another time, we won’t even give us a mouth. We do not need any approval and politeness from their filthy side - let them just be stupidly afraid.
        Yes, it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...
        1. yur
          yur 3 May 2014 12: 53 New
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          But it’s not the West that matters, as you don’t understand ... It’s all about the UKRAINIANS, if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ..
          Yes, I understand, and I don’t at all insist on the immediate deployment of our troops to Ukraine, BUT ... It is necessary to clearly, clearly and understandably tell everyone that Ukraine is a zone of our priority interests, that we will not tolerate an anti-Russian government there even in the first steps of entry we will respond to NATO accordingly. And then we are only talking about violations of the rights of citizens of Ukraine. Yes, it is necessary to speak and defend their rights, but priority should be given to the rights of Russian citizens and the interests of the Russian Federation. Up to..
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            Yes, I understand, and I do not insist on the immediate entry of our troops into Ukraine, BUT ...

            Yes, hell knows what is right in this situation and what is not .... That anger strangles us from our own powerlessness, and we have information with a gulkin nose ... My soul hurts ...
        2. DanSabaka 3 May 2014 12: 58 New
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          They will call. But you can not send troops, but send advisers and instructors. More with weapons.
          1. sniper 3 May 2014 13: 19 New
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            , and send advisers and instructors.
            It seems to me that MANPADS will be more complicated than AKs, and in hunting stores they are unlikely to be bought, but there are no three turntables ...
        3. Igarr 3 May 2014 13: 15 New
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          Snipe ...
          and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.
          The degree of affordability has recently fallen very low.
          No one will be horrified ... victims of repression.
          If properly filed all this in the press.
          .
          It’s become a veritable poet .... repression-aggression-presii ...
          .
          Kazlov must be wet.
          Definitely.
          Regardless of age.
          I think so.
          1. sniper 3 May 2014 13: 26 New
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            Quote: Igarr
            and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.
            I am afraid that there will be too many of these .... Almost the entire population of Ukraine, minus those who are now on the barricades, and there are only a few thousand ... It all hurts ...
            1. avia1991 3 May 2014 14: 09 New
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              I'm afraid there will be too many of these

              But don’t be afraid, sniper: they won’t be outraged against the junta now, she’s dear, of course, but the main thing is who the power is. So they are more likely to be afraid to oppose us - as they are now afraid to oppose them.
              1. sniper 3 May 2014 14: 18 New
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                And don’t be afraid
                It’s necessary ... And to be afraid and think ... This is not chess, millions of lives are at stake here, and in case of an error, you won’t be able to replay ...
            2. denort
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              in the southeast, there are very few traitors, one or two have miscalculated. it's just that people are afraid to go against the junta without weapons - this is certain death. not everyone has so much courage; people cannot be blamed for this.

              but anger in Russia is increasing - that does not intervene and threw Ukraine to the mercy of the fascists and the Americans. all the writers on the forum - imagine that armed groups of fascists would roam around Moscow, would you oppose them without weapons? think carefully about it ... (knowing that, for example, Putin fled to China, there are no police, the troops are neutral).

              if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth. Yes, it can reach the third world war. but that would be honest, because now many people don’t understand what’s going on — some kind of undercover mouse fuss with obscure goals and meanings. people want the certainty of the enemy during World War II.
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                Quote: denort
                if so many lies are pouring on Russia in the interference of affairs in Ukraine, it is necessary to make this lie true, so that they tell the truth.

                If you have been undeservedly accused, then you have to come and earn.
          2. Onotollah 3 May 2014 13: 56 New
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            and those who call us invaders ... we will turn into camp dust.

            This is the stumbling block.
            How many are those who are against Russia, how many are those who have their heads washed by propaganda?
            50 percent? Is that about 20 million?
            Wow camp dust. Here you need to think how to solve the issue.
            To introduce troops is a major civil war with the possibility of transitioning into a world war, and not to enter - it is already a civil war.
        4. Corsair 3 May 2014 14: 26 New
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          It’s all about the UKRAINIANS; if we bring in troops, then the UKRAINIANS will call us invaders ...

          And after what happened in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Odessa, how many people want to feel like Ukrainians?
          1. sniper 3 May 2014 14: 36 New
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            , how many want to feel like Ukrainians?
            I don’t know, brother ... There is no information, everything is shitty there ...
    7. Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 35 New
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      They (the dogs), so everyone is already hanging on us ... But, "hurry up slowly" ...

      "The big giraffe - he knows better" ...

      However, the warrior must be kept at arm's length or in any case always in the pocket ... Which I have been doing for a relatively long time.
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    Quote: leks
    but in the world who recognizes this, you think the West will say yes, we accept his request.

    the position of the West is known in advance; any question will be against it, so you can not worry. Yanukovych is a legitimate president until the election of May 25 and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Turchinov = nobody, acting

    This is the current government of Kiev for us and no one calls them, but for all Western politicians and rulers they are the democratic transitional government of Ukraine and this clique takes advantage of the fact that they are supported in the west.
    Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
    This is a concrete junta green light.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 13 New
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      Quote: leks
      Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
      This is a concrete junta green light.

      Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
      So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
      By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.
  22. zveroboy61 3 May 2014 09: 04 New
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    The UN and other organizations are for the West, for us it is Rosiyu. Dot.
  23. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 09: 05 New
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    Until the end he did not believe that the army would open fire on civilians. It can be seen "the army outside politics" is not about the Ukrainian Armed Forces. How then these "soldiers" will look into the eyes of their people. This is trash.
    1. Himalayan 3 May 2014 09: 49 New
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      Enough self-deception. Those who listen to the orders of Turchinov-Nalyvaychenko and paid officers are the army of the junta, not the people
      ---
      Enough of Odessa to understand that the population (not the people) does not support the fight against the junta
  24. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 May 2014 09: 12 New
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    Donetsk still has a chance to announce separation, to mobilize. It is not too late to answer force by force. Otherwise, everything is lost.
  25. Kibalchish 3 May 2014 09: 14 New
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    It's time to start. That's just Deleted. Moderator Sniper. In any case, we will be bad for them simply because we exist.
  26. bars280
    bars280 3 May 2014 09: 15 New
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    Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 20 New
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      They just said on Channel 5 that the militias in Slavyansk asked the advancing troops for negotiations, but Avakov has not agreed yet, although this is the PAroshenkovsky channel, Svidomo.
  27. igorek45
    igorek45 3 May 2014 09: 18 New
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    [quote] There, in the salt mines of this weapon, from the 1st and 2nd world wars it was preserved for the army enough, but then it will be a real war. [/ quote]
    And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?
    [quote] but then it will be a real war. [/ quote] [/ quote]
    And what is happening in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk is not a real war ..? Or do you think this is a toy war ..?
    1. Corsair 3 May 2014 11: 12 New
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      Quote: igorek45
      Or do you think that the weapons of the First World War (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

      I will not talk for a long time about the relevance in modern conditions of the Mosin rifle in relation to an airplane (not an armored helicopter) and lightly armored vehicles when firing reinforced armor-piercing cartridges ...
  28. voadmin 3 May 2014 09: 19 New
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    GDP is time to stop chewing snot and pain in organizations of hypocrites. Once he promised to defend, so let him take real steps to protect him, and not hide behind the talkers!
  29. Egoza 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
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    From the blog of L. Vershinin ...
    Bolotov rents Lugansk. Julia bought it



    "And in Lugansk, - unfortunately, this is so," Valery Bolotov surrenders the city to Matke. For money.

    That's the "heroes of Lugansk" .... for the loot, if large, you can sell ... people.
    Apparently its "unofficial" coal business ... closer to the body.
    xxx


    XXXX
    Now.

    First.
    To everyone who reads: rallies ended, crowds ended, negotiations ended.
    The time has come for dozens and fives who will kill this foul; everyone who is not ready needs to step aside.
    And those who are ready, get ready.

    Second.
    The four scum who are personally responsible for today's massacre in Odessa:
    Andrey Yusov
    Vova Nemirovsky,
    Bene Kolomoisky
    and another freak.

    You burned 38 people alive to make Hurwitz the mayor.
    Calmly burned.
    All right.
    Get to you.
    Together with the spawn.
    No matter where the spawn is hiding, even in Haifa, even in the Innere Stadt, on the Universitetshtrasse (I understand, yes?).
    This is not my tantrum, so people decided.
    And I am pleased to know that.
    1. vlum
      vlum 3 May 2014 09: 38 New
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      "surrenders" - the past tense has not yet been set here.

      And the fighters do not like the fact of some kind of negotiations by the junta ... And this attitude is absolutely logical.

      In general, so as not to write too much, we'll see and see. There, in the messages themselves, they speak of some ultimatums. So it will be necessary to wait for new information.

      ps I personally also don’t like attempts at negotiations, because it all smells really bad.
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    3. calocha
      calocha 3 May 2014 09: 40 New
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      Let Mozgovoy take Lugansk into his own hands!
  30. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 09: 23 New
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    Bandera had fun ... Now celebrate the "victory" .... The beast!
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        Yes, such lovely girls. What do they believe in killing people?
  31. leks 3 May 2014 09: 28 New
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    Quote: MG42
    Quote: leks
    Yesterday, Merkel And Obama said that all the actions of this junta are correct, since the authorities must restore order in the east with the help of their troops, that is, forces.
    This is a concrete junta green light.

    Well, of course, many of us are directly eager to join NATO. And there you can put an American missile defense system at 800 km. from Moscow from the south, for example, in the Kharkov region.
    So far, NATO has not rocked, because Ukraine is not a member of this organization.
    By the way, there is already a law in the Rada on withdrawal from the CIS.

    This law is no longer important, and what's the difference already, will they leave the CIS or not, now in Ukraine such a batch has begun, the world will no longer be there.
    By the way, at the expense of sanctions against Russia, I’m sure they will be introduced in any case, that is, the third package, we will be made extreme in this story, the Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them, now is the perfect time to undermine us economically, and what top politicians say there about the undesirability of such measures, this lie will be introduced even if it affects them.
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
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      Quote: leks
      Anglo-Saxons will not miss the moment to undermine our economy for them now is the perfect moment

      a bit about the economy.
      1. Crimea without drinking water, lack of electricity.
      2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.
      3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??
      4. Military-industrial complex and heavy engineering in eastern Ukraine focused on the Russian Federation?
      5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.
      etc.
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        badger1974 3 May 2014 15: 32 New
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        Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea
        1. we have enough drinking water, irrigation, there is some problem, but the private trader has long switched to drip irrigation from his own wells, by and large the water was discharged into the drainage and went to Sivash, because of which it was desalinated, the electric gas generators can cope shortage of watts in the network, and on our Crimean gas
        2 bridge, so it has long been needed. and it would have been built 20 years ago, Kiev constantly put sticks in wheels
        3.from ABM- by installing the Triumphs on Cape Aya well, actually the over-the-horizon radars for eggs, you can hold everything that is NATO on the Black Sea
        4. there will be no blackmail - in the course of the lack of power of the kiwi they will carry out a reverse from Europedia, so that payment for gas will be a European smut
        In short, everything is like nothing to the best
        1. T-73 3 May 2014 19: 27 New
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          Quote: badger1974
          Well, do not exaggerate so talking about the Crimea

          Pull out the defense industry, a matter of time. There is no irreplaceable heavyweight on Ukrin. Rather, the pipe distribution had in mind, but its replacement has already occurred in Russia. There are specific products, including for nuclear power plants, but that ... how to say, Turboatom has worked out its own. We set our turbines now, the old Kharkov ones will be finalized and at rest. That's the whole heavy work for them. Of Ukraine
  32. Egoza 3 May 2014 09: 31 New
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    According to some reports, the Bandera massacre who plunged into the train are going to Kharkov, where they intend to repeat this tomorrow.
    And at the same time ...

    Network...
    Excuse me guys, I'm writing from the LEFT PAGE! WE Contractors of military unit 3039 (the BB or the national guard as we were renamed after the fucking Maidan) in connection with the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE are asking you to block a part (Kosior 2a address of Nikolaev) WE are tired of this whim US, like Berkut betrayed in Kiev, they will also betray US NOW! BB and Golden Eagle with the people!
    xxxxx
    This is CONTRACTOR! And they have weapons! But they ask the "conscious" to block part of them! But in fact, stand up with the people .....
    So what can be demanded from ordinary, peaceful people who are simply not psychologically ready, do not understand how their own people who live nearby, go and kill, burn, scoff !!!
    Where they understood, they are fighting, troops are being thrown at them. But how long will this psychological shock last for the rest? Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?
    1. boozer 3 May 2014 09: 43 New
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      By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow? What kind of football is this? Feast during the plague straight!
      1. Anper 3 May 2014 10: 47 New
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        Quote: boozer
        By chance in Kharkov there is no football match tomorrow?

        Recall that the Cup final will take place on May 15. (in KHARKIV) In the semifinals, which will be played on May 7, Kyiv Dynamo and Odessa Chernomorets, Cherkasy Slavutich and Donetsk Shakhtar will meet.
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      Quote: Egoza
      Is it really necessary for a war to enter every home?

      Probably so. It still seems to the miners that they are deep and will not touch them.
  33. evgenii
    evgenii 3 May 2014 09: 37 New
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    How many more people should die while ours are watching ...
  34. Klim 3 May 2014 09: 46 New
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    It is necessary to introduce not only the southeast but the whole territory, and most importantly, so that the junta with its accomplices does not run away abroad, they must be tried.
  35. Dobkin
    Dobkin 3 May 2014 09: 54 New
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    yes, the wrong country was called Ganduras
  36. Corsair 3 May 2014 09: 59 New
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    The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. 3 May (updated)

    Where is the UPDATE, where is the information? In Kramatorsk and Slavyansk in 00.43 Moscow time it all ended?
  37. Earnest 3 May 2014 10: 02 New
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    1.
    Quote: igorek45

    And what kind of weapon is it ... Or do you think that the weapons of the first world war (three-rulers) can be successfully fought against modern helicopters and armored vehicles ..?

    You can, and - great. The cartridges are only fresher, so that due to misfires and protracted shots in the battle there would be no problems
    If there are PTRD and PTRS, you can order a requiem for crews of armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns and self-propelled guns and helicopters immediately after starting the engine, and the calculation is easier to train than firing from a grenade launcher, everything is at the instinct level of a karamultuk arrow.
    2.
    Where are the Ukrainians, where are the miners? Or let Vanya do everything for them? Who should give weapons? Those 2 thousands, so they are at arms. But the rest of the men where? !!!

    WE Contractors of the military unit 3039 (BB or nat. Guard as we were renamed after a fucking Maidan) due to the events in Odessa, our regiment will most likely be sent to Odessa tomorrow morning! WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SOUL TO FUCK ON EVERYTHING! But if there are conscious people WE ask you to block a part (the address of Kosior 2 in Nikolaev)

    Therefore, it is impossible to introduce troops, which (I quote): "A revolution is only worth something when it is able to defend itself." Why do dogs take weapons where they find, kill whoever they want and when they want? That's when the news shows that: "The armed forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic burned a junta PS column on the march, not a single fascist from the National Guard guard survived," then I agree that the resistance has begun.
  38. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 03 New
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    Maybe someone will come in handy (who is at the forefront) Hold on there
    vk.com/rufront Russian front
    I’m a military man myself and I want to give advice to people who stop the equipment with a human shield ... you can stand, lie in front of them, but this will not help, you cannot stop them if they really receive an order to break through (and as we know they already received it) , you cannot disable the equipment, but you can harm them ... So:
    1. If you came up close to the technique, take a spray of the most resistant paint and paint over the triplex (devices for guiding the machine, aiming, shooting, adjusting) By this, you blind the car ... try to tear out or break the antenna, so the machine will not be able to "speak" and listen "! And you won’t go far without a connection!
    2. Paint one headlight on the car - it will work like a friend or foe system. If a car with one headlight approaches a block post or a strong point, then you can safely work to defeat! ! I saw that there are grenade launchers and anti-tank weapons! I saw a car with one headlight or a convoy - work to defeat first, otherwise they will destroy you!
    3. Phosphor paint - allows you to detect the car even if it goes with full blackout at night! They took a condom or balloon and threw it into the car!
  39. vvvvv 3 May 2014 10: 07 New
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    I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
    I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.
    Around damn balabol ... All speakers somewhere in Russia are only balabolit what bad Kiev authorities, nat. Guard and PS. Kill and kill. And they are trying to impress someone with this ?! And Yarosh is at the forefront, and mercenaries, and the right sector, and anyone. Most Ukrainians are intimidated and afraid to intervene, to participate, because they see that Russia does not support pro-Russian activists in any way.
  40. saag 3 May 2014 10: 15 New
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    Quote: MG42
    3. Protection against missile defense in the event of Ukraine joining NATO, price for the Russian Federation ??

    Tu22M3 regiment in the Guards in the Crimea
    Quote: MG42
    1. Crimea without drinking water,

    with drinking, it’s with irrigation strain and then temporary

    Quote: MG42
    2. How much will the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to Kerch cost if they completely close the railway, including from the mainland.

    they were going to build it
    Quote: MG42
    5. Blackmail GTS for Gazprom.

    can a pendell from Europe wait for such an initiative
  41. kodxnumx 3 May 2014 10: 16 New
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    I am sure that the GDP will not include the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to go, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all of Ukraine from this scum, where the army and special subdivisions of the eye follow them it does not hide.
    1. vvvvv 3 May 2014 13: 33 New
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      What "army and special subdivisions" ?! All disloyal special forces units in the Qivan junta have been cleaned up and active members of the Right Sector everywhere at key posts, etc. structures.
      Most are enough to intimidate and force to carry out orders.
      And all this peaceful idiocy like the Kulikovo Field camps and rallies are nonsense of naive and fools. Only force measures can be. And the Right Sector demonstrated this first in Kiev, and now throughout Ukraine. This does not reach Russia and pro-Russian forces. We need only a violent seizure of key facilities and key posts, power structures, so that pro-Russian forces are legalized. Instead, the Right Sector puts on its fighters in the clothes of football fans, police, army, etc.
      And pro-Russian activists are stupidly substituted, leading to some stupid and bespontovy rallies with silly chants ... It’s disgusting, disgusting and humiliating. That is why I did not participate and would not participate in any such events led by oligophrenics, at which you will simply be maimed or killed. Only weapons and the ability to defend themselves, only radical force measures and, if you like, the threat of nuclear weapons to the west. In the meantime, there is an empty balabolstvo due to the blood of those who trust and hope for Russia.
      The first killed Russian anywhere in the world should be followed by a retaliatory missile attack and so that every r.o. slot in the world should know about such consequences. About how do Israel or the United States. After all, had the USA been in the place of Russia, and if US citizens had died, then the Tomahawks would have flown. They are killing us, they are conducting terror of various kinds against Russia, and in return they are only exhortations. International law does not work, the United States and the West do not heed diplomacy, respect only force.
    2. Tartary 3 May 2014 14: 58 New
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      Quote: kod3001
      I am sure that the GDP will not turn on the rear, that it is waiting, but I also see that there is no time to wait, there is complete idleness, it is necessary to clean all Ukraine from this scum


      Stopudov will not turn on! Just do not bite yourself and others from the inside ... We are waiting, sir ...

      Putin is not God ...
      But God rules Russia directly ...
      However - "hope in God, and do not be ill" - Russian folk wisdom. (almost from the words of Suvorov)
  42. Sib. Uralets
    Sib. Uralets 3 May 2014 10: 17 New
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    Now you can’t do anything with half measures. Just sticks against weapons are no good. Russia must provide all the militias with the most modern weapons. I mean rifle, grenade launchers, MANPADS and soak them. That there would be no shortage of anything. And of course you can’t do without volunteers
  43. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 17 New
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    Quote: vvvvv
    I consider Russia's non-intervention to be a betrayal of pro-Russian Ukrainians. How much more do you need to kill people for Russia to introduce peacekeepers ?!
    I don’t want to continue reading all this news anymore - complete frustration and disappointment.

    Patience brother .. (also such a feeling and anger) We can’t be wrong now ..
    1. vvvvv 3 May 2014 13: 47 New
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      I understand. But, explain to me how this could happen with the Kulikovo Field camp ?!
      Didn’t know that the militants are gathering and preparing ?! And before, it was also in Kharkov and Donetsk! This is a complete doctorate of ldbdhp (I can not express myself otherwise) - neither mind nor imagination, just one setup and betrayal. Under current conditions, activists should be armed with firearms - ideally, but at least with a pitchfork, etc. And shoot to kill when trying to disarm them by someone. But the Right Sector and many who have long openly called for arming their supporters. Yes, and many are already armed. There should be military units in Donetsk - this is at least. Then Kiev will not have enough army forces to arrange ATO everywhere. And after all, in Kramatorsk, Slavyansk there are even fewer deaths, because people are armed.
      And there is the question of proactive measures ... It seems that there is no strategy, not even tactics. There is much to argue about, but unarmed people are notorious victims.
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        Quote: vvvvv
        how could this happen to the Kulikovo Field camp ?!

        So people always walk on Kulikovo in May .... Is it possible to immediately distinguish who is where, and the fight started on the street first, and then it moved to Kulikovo! And here's another ...
        UPD.2 House of Trade Unions.
        1. He had police protection, until May 1. Removed under the pretext of holidays. But they didn’t clean it for Easter. There are 3 guards left.
        2. All the entrances to the building were hacked, and outside.
        3. Sleeves from Kalash and 9mm combat inside the building, the direction of fire - in depth.

        4. Fires on the 2nd and 4th floors, a picture - several corpses burned in one office and fragments from several bottles are in the same place.

        5. Tracks are destroying right now.

        6. A criminal case is opened against the head.


        And probably explains a lot!

        Zapadentsev squeeze the "Seventh" to feed. This is the price they demanded to pacify Odessa.

        The seventh is already on fire. Militants set fire to containers.
        About two thousand inhabitants of Odessa are sent to the Central Internal Affairs Directorate on Preobrazhenskaya.
  44. Moldovan
    Moldovan 3 May 2014 10: 20 New
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    Remember the story of Yanukovych. He did not want to use force because he was afraid of the wrath of Europe and America, and no matter what was later said that he had his hands in the blood. Remember Milosevic, remember the rest. He was afraid to lose his place and his money and lost everything, he was still hanged on him all those killed on the Maidan. Therefore, Russia will enter its troops or not, it is not at all important for Europe and America. In any case, all those killed in Ukraine will be hanged on Russia and all will impose sanctions against Russia. There will be no sanctions in only one case. If Russia ceases to exist and gives its people to the slaughter of America. Russia would have entered the troops 100 times. Do not enter not because they are afraid of America or the EU. There are other reasons that lie in the warped, raped by American ideology consciousness of a large part of the Ukrainian people. A huge problem is the separation of grains from the chaff. About half of the Ukrainian people are Russians with an unbroken psyche and consciousness, the consciousness of the other half of the Ukrainian people is distorted and destroyed to such an extent that they cannot be counted on to cure, which means these two groups of Ukrainians cannot live together on the same territory. Serious migration programs from west to east and from east to west will be needed. Otherwise, there will be a complete destruction of the population of Ukraine
  45. Dreamer
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    and new disasters like the Korean ferry and the Chinese Boeing await the world community ...
  46. saag 3 May 2014 10: 21 New
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    Quote: Sib. Uralets
    Russia must provide all militias with the most modern weapons

    If these militias cannot take what they have under their feet the point of supplying them with the same thing, then suddenly they will not be able to use it?
  47. Vorodis_vA 3 May 2014 10: 21 New
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    the most important thing is to think over the economic situation, crush the economy. Russia has such opportunities. To put pressure on the countries of the post-Soviet space. Up to the full economic blockade of Lithuania, Latvia and other henchmen. To the maximum pressure on the Ukrainian oligarchs, one way or another they are dependent. Press without a public announcement, but only in those areas where we do not lose much. Completely abandon sprats, vegetables and other trash from Europe. Let the economies of several countries collapse. Also, the financial sector, it is necessary to destabilize Cyprus and play with other assets. financial sector, if you can think of it, you can bring down very seriously. The domino principle will work and Europe will shut up.
  48. INVESTOR 3 May 2014 10: 26 New
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    Whoever has information on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ??? !!!
  49. MIKHAN 3 May 2014 10: 29 New
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    Here's the guys notice the pattern (whose guess yourself): Before the new year (bombings in Volgograd), the Olympics and February 23 (the massacre of Nana Maidan and the coup), Easter (the shooting of the checkpoint in Slavyansk), May 1-2 (assault Slavyansk, mass murders in Odessa ..
    Ahead is the main holiday for all of us. 9 MAY VICTORY DAY! It's time to answer .. Beat reptiles in the very heart of Russian and Russia!
  50. boozer 3 May 2014 10: 33 New
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    Are we ready for war? After all, this is not even Georgia. And what is the opinion of the majority of our Russian population? What kind of “pig” will the “fifth column”, headed by Makarevich, plant? What will be the answer of NATO if we enter the territory of Ukraine? And such questions are full. Personally with me. I imagine how many questions and multi-way tasks our government, the Russian government, is now solving!
    1. yur
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      What kind of “pig” will the “fifth column”, headed by Makarevich, plant?
      Well damn it, if I start to be afraid of Makarevich, it would be better not to be born into the white light. Let that column of God pray that we are distracted by events in Ukraine. But soon, and we really pay attention to them, in general, hov, lads. angry