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At night, the Ukrainian National Guard stormed Kramatorsk, through the dead and wounded goes to dozens

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At night, the Ukrainian National Guard stormed Kramatorsk, through the dead and wounded goes to dozens



On Saturday night, May 3, the Ukrainian National Guard launched an assault on Kramatorsk, Donetsk Region, which is near Slavyansk, where the special operation began on May 2 in the early morning and is still ongoing. "Now the assault begins," - said the RIA News by phone, one of the Kramatorsk militia named Andrew, while a siren was heard, announcing the beginning of the assault.

"In the area of ​​Yasnogorka - this place between Slavyansk and Kramatorsk - was a column blocked by civilians and militia from 10-14 armored personnel carriers and other equipment. With the onset of darkness, they went for a breakthrough, firing machine guns from trailers and from machine guns. From our side there are wounded and killed, I personally saw two (killed) ", - said another representative of the militia named Ivan.

As a result of the assault on Kramatorsk, there are already dozens killed and dozens injured, Olga, a federalization supporter, told the agency. “The score goes to the tens. This applies to both the dead and the wounded,” she said, noting that the fight is currently suspended. “We have already transported all the wounded to hospitals, some to Kramatorsk, some to Slavyansk,” the doctor added. “At least two of the wounded died on the way to the hospital.”

Ukrainian site "Correspondent.Net" informs about two killed and more than 20 injured in Kramatorsk. In the suburbs also shoot.

"We received ten wounded with firearms." There are seriously injured, there is a moderate severity. There is at least one female militia, 36 years. One of those who arrived, unfortunately, died, "the doctors at the Kramatorsk hospital told RIA Novosti.

On the attack on Kramatorsk reported on his Facebook page journalist Maxim Ravreba. According to him, the military shoot at civilians in the vicinity of the city. There are many wounded who need medicine. “People are dying in Kramatorsk! Kramatorsk urgently needs medicines and dressings. There are a lot of wounded! I spoke to the executive committee. They dictate the list: Ceftriaxone, Reasorbilact, Saline, Neohemadesic, Aminocaproic Acid. Hemostatic agents, Ketanol, in the ampoules, tablets, Aminocaproic acid. with needles. Silk three of four. Strong antibiotics, alcohol, sterile gloves, scalpels, disposable tweezers, plaits, tsitramon. Anyone who can, bring it to the Board. Urgently ", - he writes.
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  1. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 3 May 2014 06: 49
    +2
    Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, we are holding on to you, we support you and worry about you.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 3 May 2014 06: 55
      +16
      Dmitry Yarosh went to Slavyansk to lead the operation of the Right Sector. The situation in Slavyansk this evening sharply escalated. Yarosh was supposed to come to the Schuster Live television studio, however, as the Right Sector press service said, instead he would directly participate in the “final stage” of the operation in Slavyansk. The situation in the city has sharply worsened this evening, ITAR-TASS reports. Shooting is heard, in particular, in the area of ​​the headquarters of the militia. During the day, right-wing militants dressed in civilian clothes entered the city from different directions.
      Soak scumbags without mercy, prisoners do not need PSs, they are not people and do not deserve indulgence, this is not a pilot who shot down a helicopter that you should have helped, PSs should feel the anger of Donbass
    2. lg41
      lg41 3 May 2014 07: 08
      +25
      How many people need to be burned alive in Kiev, Odessa, killed in Kiev, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Mariupol, Odessa and Kharkov, so that you are with us? We WITHOUT WEAPONS.
      1. polite people
        polite people 3 May 2014 07: 27
        +8
        The true face of Ukraine today.
        1. _my opinion
          _my opinion 3 May 2014 13: 21
          +6
          ... such rabid dogs (like this Monster) are shot ... so that PEOPLE live ...
          1. connect30
            connect30 3 May 2014 17: 01
            -5
            This is how PEOPLE want to live. The problem is that the "brothers" from the north cannot understand this ...
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2014 07: 37
        +26
        I read the comments and it becomes somehow not so ... We write like a blueprint ... Is the rating important or something? So we have journalists who write almost daily, but didn’t get to the marshal fellow Emotions are great, of course, but let's get to the point ... Not at the rally ...
        1. VAF
          VAF 3 May 2014 09: 41
          +11
          Quote: domokl
          Emotions are great, of course, but let's get to the point ... Not at the rally ...


          Sasha. unfortunately, but ... nothing remains .. only agitprom request recourse
          Since of these newly proclaimed PEOPLES, ..... only one rally!
          And so .. everyone sits in his hole and waits .. here and wait.
          But the Natsiks will crush them successively ... first, small cities and towns. And then they will take up large ones.
          Such a concept for Ukraine. as unity and unity of command .. for the guys, in my opinion, it’s simply not known.
          yes somewhere. once. someone served, but judging by the organization and planning ... well, the maximum is a company commander .. no more, there really are several reconnaissance group commanders, but otherwise ... volunteers in the full sense of the word.
          The most "basic" and terrible will come later .... now they will finish with the southeast, but then the turn of the Crimea will come.
          But only a REAL MILITARY can understand this, and not ... the "head of the club" from ... jackets soldier
          1. free
            free 3 May 2014 12: 06
            0
            [quote = vaf] [quote = domokl] Emotions are certainly great, but let's get to the point ... Not at the rally ... [/ quote]

            Sasha. unfortunately, but ... nothing remains .. only agitprom request recourse
            Since of these newly proclaimed PEOPLES, ..... only one rally!
            And so .. everyone sits in his hole and waits .. here and wait.
            But the Natsiks will crush them successively ... first, small cities and towns. And then they will take up large ones.
            Such a concept for Ukraine. as unity and unity of command .. for the guys, in my opinion, it’s simply not known.
            yes somewhere. once. someone served, but judging by the organization and planning ... well, the maximum is a company commander .. no more, there really are several reconnaissance group commanders, but otherwise ... volunteers in the full sense of the word.
            The most "basic" and terrible will come later .... now they will finish with the southeast, but then the turn of the Crimea will come.
            But only a REAL MILITARY can understand this, and not ... the "head of the club" from ... jackets soldier[/ Quote

            If you forgot our Crimea! And we will not sit on the ass exactly when they poke in there, we will deal with the external enemy, then we will deal with the internal one!
            1. VAF
              VAF 3 May 2014 12: 20
              +1
              Quote: free

              If you forgot our Crimea! And we will not sit on the ass exactly when they poke in there, we will deal with the external enemy, then we will deal with the internal one!


              Yes, I just forgot nothing. and here you are. from my comment. unfortunately. they didn’t understand anything ... well, it’s understandable .. the level of knowledge of tactics and strategy is just about you - the level of company commander or reconnaissance group commander.
              Do not reproach .. just .. who on what .. studied! soldier
              By the way, and now we are sitting on the ..pop exactly.tk ..... well, this is a military secret. Why lol
              Complete inaction and .. "pauses" just led to the fact that we have stupidly taken away the strategic initiative and create a strategic bridgehead. on which the bases of NATa will be located (so far they are only along the borders).
              And they will again send the eggs to the return of the Crimea ... then we will use weapons. this is our territory ... and then we will be announced .... well, you yourself hear that.
              And there will again be sanctions, the anger of the UN, PACE, OSCE, etc., etc. and the reason for harnessing the NAT troops under the guise of an MC. with all the ensuing consequences.
              And if they also accept Ukraine in NATU ... then in general .. as simple as that.
              I tried to clearly explain, so to speak a very simple and philistine language.
              If you still do not understand. Then refer to the story of 33 years (felbel Hitler and Remm).
              it's only in the song .. "... for the first time and again." Everything has long been calculated and..2 all moves..recorded " soldier
              1. 77bob1973
                77bob1973 3 May 2014 15: 47
                +1
                If you are really into this dock, then you can understand that the "Great Ukrainians" will not finish there simply because they are not able to do this, this is not a state. level, I agree not with the generals self-defense, as they do not have the PS. They have been jostling with their own forces for three weeks now, near a town slightly larger than a football field.
          2. mirag2
            mirag2 3 May 2014 14: 15
            +2
            Yes, I must admit that I also thought that the Ukrainian army would first crack down on small foci, Europe would support it morally, and then the current Ukrainian government would sue us.
        2. free
          free 3 May 2014 12: 04
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          I read the comments and it becomes somehow not so ... We write like a blueprint ... Is the rating important or something? So we have journalists who write almost daily, but didn’t get to the marshal fellow Emotions are great, of course, but let's get to the point ... Not at the rally ...


          okay, we denote the position that the war against the Russian Federation is a war with the use of nuclear weapons, we are clearing Ukraine from the military missile defense and we’ll see
          1. VAF
            VAF 3 May 2014 12: 25
            +2
            Quote: free
            ? Okay, we indicate the position that the war against the Russian Federation is a war using nuclear weapons


            And here I agree 100% soldier
            Just do not designate, but declare officially. that all the objects in the geyropa. on which NAT troops are based are under the gun of our nuclear weapons, especially those objects where operational deployment and amplification facilities are now located.
            And the example will be applied by such BGs ... with a radius of destruction of so many kilometers.
            well, by the states, and so it is clear ... and that's it ..... that's all (all the neurope and bananas0 sat on the J. OPU exactly.
            Well and further ... on the topic soldier
      4. VAF
        VAF 3 May 2014 09: 32
        +25
        Quote: lg41
        to be with us? We WITHOUT WEAPONS.


        1. You have weapons .. like your dirt in warehouses .. go and get it.
        2. While you will have to fight for freedom "retirees, women, children." and the "famous miners' lads" will organize pickets of the world to raise the salaries of their loved ones .... the end for you, unfortunately, is a foregone conclusion!
        Whatever the slogans are expressed here .. the slogan you will not come to the point.
        Face the truth! soldier
        1. tds-8_78
          tds-8_78 3 May 2014 09: 42
          +7
          There is nothing more to wait. Yanukovych showed an example of how not to do. Fight. God with you.
        2. alauda1038
          alauda1038 3 May 2014 10: 11
          +13
          I agree, while the miners will play ostriches, the problem will not be solved
      5. Kolya
        Kolya 3 May 2014 10: 47
        0
        We urgently need three cruise missiles in Kiev. According to the presidential administration, the Cabinet, and the Verkhovna Rada. When the junta goes to work. Urgently!
      6. Nick
        Nick 3 May 2014 11: 34
        +2
        Quote: lg41
        How many people need to be burned alive in Kiev, Odessa, killed in Kiev, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Mariupol, Odessa and Kharkov, so that you are with us? We WITHOUT WEAPONS.

        Russia is already with you and is doing everything possible now to protect you!
      7. fedorovith
        fedorovith 3 May 2014 15: 21
        0
        Tajikistan limited itself to 100000, the population there is smaller, and now it seems to me smarter, so we wait .........
    3. alexdol
      alexdol 3 May 2014 08: 03
      +7
      platitsyn70 (5) SU "Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, we stick with you, we support you ...."
      ----------------------------------------------
      Well, how much support can be provided only in WORDS! Already just tired of listening to such speeches, people ask one question: HOW MUCH SHOULD BE KILLED TO PROVIDE REAL HELP ???
      Weapons were delivered to Syria and continue to do so, but why are they not giving us anything? At the same time, this point is emphasized every time! America does not hesitate to support those CREWS, and Russia feeds us with some promises ...
      1. sssla
        sssla 3 May 2014 08: 18
        -1
        Quote: alexdol
        Weapons were delivered to Syria and continue to do so, but why are they not giving us anything? At the same time, this point is emphasized every time! America does not hesitate to support those CREWS, and Russia feeds us with promises alone.

        Well, Khrushchev didn’t pass you over 60 years ago to Ukraine
        1. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2014 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: sssla
          Well, Khrushchev didn’t pass you over 60 years ago to Ukraine

          And this is not Ukraine, this is Novorossia ... Yes, and Ukraine is part of the Russian land, the small homeland of Russia ...
      2. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 3 May 2014 08: 57
        +8
        Quote: alexdol
        America does not hesitate to support those CREWS, and Russia feeds us with some promises ...

        That's really really. In addition to moral support to the unarmed inhabitants of the east, nothing else is visible in front of the armed junta. And where are those tens of thousands of "bayonets" who promised to easily raise the alarm in Donbass (in my opinion there was a video message from there). The situation with Ukraine reminds me of Yugoslavia. the Americans did what they wanted and did there, and Russia just shook the air. The march of our paratroopers does not count. So it is here. The punitive operation began in full in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk. Hundreds of radicals, ultras and benders were brought to Odessa to burn people, throw stones and beat them with sticks. Russia's actions are visible so far only in the UN in the person of Churkin, who is trying to morally reason with the bloodthirsty Anglo-Saxons. When will our president show courage and really stand up for the people? Let him, at least not publicly, let Kadyrov off the leash and help transport the Crimean militia. There would already be help for people. And hope. Real hope. make the sky flightless. To deliver humanitarian aid by the Emergencies Ministry. The people of Russia will help with humanitarian aid, just tell me where to carry it.
        I really do not understand what is happening in our government. Maybe someone in the know? Tell me. Only without assumptions and fortune-telling.
        1. VAF
          VAF 3 May 2014 09: 49
          +3
          Quote: Native grandfather
          I really do not understand what is happening in our government. Maybe someone in the know? Tell me. Only without assumptions and fortune-telling.


          That’s bad .. that’s why we are there .... that people don’t understand crying
          1. Vrvarius
            Vrvarius 3 May 2014 18: 38
            +1
            Crimea is an autonomous republic, and Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov are 100% of the territory of Ukraine. there is no 100% unity. and it seems to me that the bourgeoisie are waiting for the invasion of Russia in Ukraine, to call it an attack. that's all. that's all they think how to be.
      3. me
        me 3 May 2014 10: 14
        +21
        In Ukraine, even in the southeast there is no unity, Russia does not know what you want and does not see the desire of people to change something. Yes, there are some people on the barricades, but this is a drop in the bucket of the total number of inhabitants of this part of Ukraine.
        In Crimea everything was clear, the people there clearly and clearly said "no" to the Kiev authorities. And if we bring in our troops to the southeast, where is the guarantee that some sympathetic junta will not shoot us in the back.
        1. sssla
          sssla 3 May 2014 10: 51
          +3
          Quote: i
          where is the guarantee that no sympathetic junta will shoot us in the back.

          So that's why they ask the troops to enter and not the Alesandrov’s choir
          1. nogBogHuk
            nogBogHuk 3 May 2014 13: 53
            -3
            Most likely, the troops will be introduced only after MAY 9. Our understanding did not want to spoil the holiday by the surviving veteran
            1. Russ69
              Russ69 3 May 2014 14: 00
              +2
              Quote: nogBogHuk
              Most likely, the troops will be introduced only after MAY 9. Our understanding did not want to spoil the holiday by the surviving veteran

              Now, what is easy? Like a festive mood?
              The Victory Parade over fascism, while on the border of the country, the fascists again kill Russian people, for me personally, it looks more blasphemous.
        2. Dimy4
          Dimy4 3 May 2014 10: 54
          +8
          In vain, they set a minus to a friend, he says the truth. There is no unity in the minds there, even in the same family. Firsthand information received.
      4. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 3 May 2014 10: 37
        +13
        Quote: alexdol
        Well, how much support can be provided only in WORDS!

        Support is not only verbally provided, as I understand it, from the Crimea about 1500 thousand people are going in the direction of Slavyansk. At least I hope so. Rather, our specialists will be there.
        Can not now of. Russia to send troops, because this is what the EU and the USA want at the moment to declare Russia an occupier.

        Secondly, here you say where is the help, where is the help? And why the people do not unite and do not go to the barricades? In the same Odessa, the millionth city! And 300 people came out! It means that the rest of us will have to fight our fate and they will gladly declare the liberators as occupiers and say, but we did not ask you.

        The problem is that someone is constantly waiting for something to be decided for him. In the 40 millionth Ukraine, 10-15 thousand people cannot defeat.
      5. Horde
        Horde 3 May 2014 11: 44
        .
        Quote: alexdol
        Weapons were delivered to Syria and continue to do so, but why are they not giving us anything? At the same time, this point is emphasized every time! America does not hesitate to support those CREWS, and Russia feeds us with promises alone


        this Russia is a stepmother for Russians remember who is in power ALL NOT RUSSIANs, they don’t need Russians with weapons, but with shovels and pickaxes in the mines, will there be any help, what else is waiting for is this president of so-called Russia?
        1. andrewvlg
          andrewvlg 3 May 2014 11: 53
          0
          Quote: Horde
          this Russia is a stepmother for Russians remember who is in power ALL NOT RUSSIANs, they don’t need Russians with weapons, but with shovels and pickaxes in the mines, will there be any help, what else is waiting for is this president of so-called Russia?

          Horde, you yourself are a frenzied nationalist! How is your ideology different from the ideology of PS?
          Do not ask what Russia has done for you, but answer what you have done for Russia!
          1. Horde
            Horde 3 May 2014 12: 01
            -2
            Quote: andrewvlg
            You yourself are a frenzied nationalist! How is your ideology different from the ideology of PS?


            Yes, I am a RUSSIAN NATIONALIST, but just do not confuse dudes with fascists, I do not kill either Russians or Ukrainians, as far as the TOP OF STATE RUSSIA IS NOT ALL RUSSIAN, AND JEWISH explains a lot of what Russians do not need now to be created; they build their JUDAH ...

            Quote: andrewvlg
            Do not ask what Russia has done for you, but answer what you have done for Russia!
            Reply Quote Report Abuse


            to report to you what I have done for my people, I consider below my dignity ...
            1. andrewvlg
              andrewvlg 3 May 2014 12: 12
              +3
              Quote: Horde
              to report to you what I have done for my people, I consider below my dignity ...

              So Putin and Shoigu believe that they are not required to report to you. In general, from which you wrote them to the Jews, huh? Just wanted?
              1. Horde
                Horde 3 May 2014 12: 40
                -2
                Quote: andrewvlg
                So Putin and Shoigu believe that they are not required to report to you.


                we are a civilian people, not a military people who chose this president so that he would be a protection for our people, we plow and sow, create values ​​for our country, in return we must be sure that the MILITARY MACHINE OF OUR COUNTRY IS ABLE TO PROTECT us and if the president does not protect his people, then why do we need such a president?
                1. andrewvlg
                  andrewvlg 3 May 2014 12: 56
                  +3
                  in exchange, you must be sure that the MILITARY MACHINE OF OUR COUNTRY IS ABLE TO PROTECT US

                  Horde, can you assume that you are mistaken? I mean that the arguments on a person who believes that he is a priori right, and the rest are mistaken, DO NOT WORK.
                  I'll try all the same:
                  1. I am sure that the military machine of our country is capable of protecting us from EXTERNAL threats emanating from other states. Why are you not sure?
                  2. You constantly insult the leadership of Russia, knowing full well that Putin and Shoigu cannot object to you on the VO website.
                  3. You constantly deceive, for example, claiming that they are Jews, etc. I repeat the question, where is the evidence that Putin and Shoigu are Jews?
                  4. The participation of Russian troops in the civil war in Ukraine and the protection of citizens from an external aggressor are two big differences. Most importantly, most residents of Ukraine are against it at the moment. In any case, this measure should be applied with all responsibility, and not only at the request of the Horde or other visitors to the site.
                  PS. I do not think that the leadership of our country is doing everything right, with many things that are happening inside Russia, I also disagree (I have an excellent point of view). But we must respect each other.
                  1. Horde
                    Horde 3 May 2014 13: 05
                    -8
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    You constantly deceive, for example, claiming that they are Jews, etc. I repeat the question, where is the evidence that Putin and Shoigu are Jews?


                    Enlighten, Azochen Wei Sholom Aleichem Kreutzman
                    http://poiskpravdy.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/putmed/
                    1. andrewvlg
                      andrewvlg 3 May 2014 13: 18
                      +2
                      Quote: Horde
                      Enlighten, Azochen Wei Sholom Aleichem Kreutzman

                      Well, as I was afraid, the arguments do not apply to you.
                      Well, consider that you are the only one Russian in all of Russia. This is how nationalism corrodes the country from the inside.
                      For the sake of your ambitions, you can declare any person "racially inferior". Go prove otherwise if the ORDA doesn't think so. What a name - ORDA!
                      The search for truth does not seem to interest you, you think you found it ...
                      1. Horde
                        Horde 3 May 2014 13: 30
                        -1
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        Well, as I was afraid, the arguments do not apply to you.
                        Well, consider that you are the only one Russian in all of Russia. This is how nationalism corrodes the country from the inside.


                        Why are you so afraid? did you take such material as you do not take into astronauts? understood at least something? or even throw info, what kind of people is at the head of Russia, but Banderland?
                    2. me
                      me 3 May 2014 16: 43
                      +2
                      Horde, you are a Russian version of a brainwashed Ukrainian.
              2. fedorovith
                fedorovith 3 May 2014 15: 45
                0
                This is a label, such as a badge of honor ,,, Ha
            2. sleepy
              sleepy 4 May 2014 00: 35
              0
              Quote: Horde
              "THE TOP OF THE STATE RUSSIA IS ALL NOT RUSSIAN, BUT JEWISH, which explains a lot of what is happening now ...".


              No need to summarize all the representatives of Jewish nationality,
              they are different.

              Israeli geneticist: ashkenazy - descendants of the Khazars
              http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1095674/
              http://zarubezhom.com/Images4/KhazarIverology.jpg

              As for the Sephardic Jews, their biological relationship with Ashkenazi is practically not traced.

              Between Ashkenazi and Sephardim hostility.

              "Hot news of Ukraine. Rothschild's revenge on Obama.
              Sephardim vs. Ashkenazi. "
              http://www.dela.su/ukraina/4771-Vikiliks_Mest_Rotshil_da_Obame_Sefardy_protiv_as
              hkenazov.html
        2. sv68
          sv68 3 May 2014 12: 17
          +4
          horde-remember or chop on your forehead-Russia is not the so-called, from disrespect to hatred is one step. It does not matter where you live, but a Russian person for Russia is her child, son or daughter, but not always the homeland is able to help them. I did not put a minus, maybe go crazy and realize that you were wrong
          1. Horde
            Horde 3 May 2014 12: 42
            -3
            Quote: sv68
            a son or daughter but not always the homeland is able to help them. I did not put a minus, maybe go overboard and realize that you were wrong


            or maybe explain WHY RUSSIA CANNOT HELP YOUR PEOPLE?
        3. Captain45
          Captain45 3 May 2014 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: Horde
          this russia

          I put you a "-" for not knowing the Russian language. If you position yourself as a Russian nationalist, then please take the trouble to write the name of your country with a capital letter, as it should be. And if you do not care how the name of the country for which you stand up is written this is not your country, you are to the West.
          1. Horde
            Horde 3 May 2014 13: 11
            -2
            Quote: Captain45
            I put you a "-" for not knowing the Russian language. If you position yourself as a Russian nationalist, then please take the trouble to write the name of your country with a capital letter, as it should be. And if you do not care how the name of the country for which you stand up is written this is not your country, you are to the West.


            MY COUNTRY IS A SOVIET UNION, and now everyone will talk about this country AND SHOW FINGER THAT IT WILL DELIVER ITS
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 3 May 2014 15: 05
              +1
              Quote: Horde
              yes I am a RUSSIAN NATIONALIST

              Quote: Horde
              MY COUNTRY IS A SOVIET UNION

              You also stated in the Soviet Union? I doubt that after such statements in the Soviet Union, after meeting with the 5 KGB Directorate, they usually went to the nearest house of sorrow, in other words, asylum. And as for the Soviet Union, I was also born in the USSR and all the best that is in He owed his life to him and until the 1997 of the year there was a coat of arms of the USSR, although he was a political officer and regularly made remarks for the violation of the uniform. However, Russia is my country and my homeland, but I do not believe that nationalist slogans will lead to its prosperity. Examples from 1991 enough years, like current Ukrainian.
      6. niki233
        niki233 3 May 2014 17: 22
        +3
        dear, what do you want us to send our children to protect you and you will sit at home and when you beat the right-handed guys you will scream occupants go home we didn’t call you warehouses with arms under your nose and almost without protection so no you went out screaming and houses until you start organizing and no one will come to fight you.
    4. jktu66
      jktu66 3 May 2014 10: 46
      +6
      Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, we are holding on to you, we support you and worry about you.
      Guys, give an armed rebuff to these killers! In Odessa, dozens of unarmed people were burned alive and the authorities of Odessa said that everything was legal. These V.y.ro.dk.i understand only power! am
      1. Nick
        Nick 3 May 2014 11: 44
        +3
        Quote: jktu66
        V.y.r.o.dk.i understand only power!

        The power can be different, but these dill so far understand only the gross physical ...
  2. Cossacks
    Cossacks 3 May 2014 06: 49
    -1
    The other day, Shoigu made a statement - Kiev authorities will no longer withdraw troops from the border. We are waiting for what you say now.
    1. lg41
      lg41 3 May 2014 07: 01
      .
      And what. Is Shoigu somehow different from Yanukovych?
      The same public gullibility. The same cowardice.
      Thanks to such "leaders", the Americans will kill the Slavs by someone else's hands soon on the territory of Russia.
      1. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 3 May 2014 07: 14
        +5
        Do not distort the facts gentlemen ....
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      3. Nick
        Nick 3 May 2014 11: 45
        +4
        Quote: lg41
        And what. Is Shoigu somehow different from Yanukovych?
        The same public gullibility. The same cowardice.

        Yes captain, you will never become a major ...
      4. Horde
        Horde 3 May 2014 11: 48
        -8
        Quote: lg41
        And what. Is Shoigu somehow different from Yanukovych?
        The same public gullibility. The same cowardice.
        Thanks to such "leaders", the Americans will kill the Slavs by someone else's hands soon on the territory of Russia.


        What does a friend of Shoigu have to do with an order that he doesn’t give at all a Shoigu, but Putin, and Putin is probably in the synagogue praying to some god that everything would end ...
      5. free
        free 3 May 2014 12: 13
        +3
        Quote: lg41
        And what. Is Shoigu somehow different from Yanukovych?
        The same public gullibility. The same cowardice.
        Thanks to such "leaders", the Americans will kill the Slavs by someone else's hands soon on the territory of Russia.


        justify your nonsense!
        1. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2014 12: 55
          +4
          Quote: free
          justify your nonsense!

          And nonsense, dear Oleg, justification is simply not possible. This is what distinguishes it from reality. So, do not expect to get a reasonable answer from the authors of such statements ...
      6. sv68
        sv68 3 May 2014 12: 25
        +4
        lg41 how much can you say that ukroina will not be left to the mercy of fate, but help if the majority of the population is waiting for manna from heaven and does not go to defense just a cry into the void-cry for a start-miner at a mine member and work if tomorrow we become slaves of the west, look at reaction and draw the right conclusions
    2. domokl
      domokl 3 May 2014 07: 41
      +10
      Quote: Cossacks
      We are waiting for what you say now.

      Have you guys ever heard the bullets whistle? Not tired of playing on the side of the Americans? Do you want what Russia is pushing toward, wars. Full-scale, with a bunch of black tulips?
      And as regards the withdrawal of troops ... Well, turn on the thought. Deliver a couple of three airborne brigades to Ukraine is a matter of hours. And there are enough armored vehicles at the borders.
      1. lg41
        lg41 3 May 2014 08: 39
        -3
        NATO bases will appear on the territory of Ukraine in this scenario. No options. The later the real opposition begins, the more deaths.
      2. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 05
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        Have you guys ever heard the bullets whistle?

        And not only heard. But everything related to this. And now the east of Ukraine is also in the know. That is why I regret that there is no way to come to the defense of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
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    1. COBA
      COBA 3 May 2014 07: 04
      +9
      Holy truth
    2. domokl
      domokl 3 May 2014 07: 47
      +10
      He hasn’t been away since February 20 ... From the moment when the maydaunas believed that they could kill, threaten, force ... The boys thought that this was a game, that they would play, and from their parents they would plow in mines and factories. But he came the moment when they bought these same parents.
      And it turned out that Uncle Vasya from a neighboring yard, which apart from his factory and dominoes was no different, was a great sniper, and Uncle Petya was a grant-giver ... I’m not talking about Grandfather Misha and Uncle Gaucher ... But they couldn’t stop on time. ..
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 3 May 2014 06: 50
    +2
    M.razi, I hope ours will give them the teeth. angry
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 May 2014 06: 59
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      M.razi, I hope ours will give them the teeth

      The teeth in the first place, should be given to those who are sitting in Kiev. They cannot order bombing, send groups of snipers, or I don’t know who else. But the plague needs to be destroyed.
      1. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2014 07: 50
        +10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The teeth in the first place, should be given to those who are sitting in Kiev

        Here it is ... And not ours, but the Ukrainians themselves. They know how to fight, if they let it go .. Yesterday we showed how a well-trained soldier differs from the type of today's soldier ... Helicopters are not women to drive around gardens ...
        1. TurboSloN
          TurboSloN 3 May 2014 08: 18
          +6
          If the militia had MANPADS and enough grenade launchers with ammunition, neither turntables nor armored vehicles would snoop where they want and when they want.
          1. sssla
            sssla 3 May 2014 08: 25
            +4
            Quote: TurboSloN
            If the militia had MANPADS and enough grenade launchers with ammunition, neither turntables nor armored vehicles would snoop where they want and when they want.

            This is what was said a month ago and two
          2. Dimy4
            Dimy4 3 May 2014 11: 03
            +1
            Just without a tool and you can’t kill a louse, you need a nail!
          3. Nick
            Nick 3 May 2014 11: 48
            +3
            Quote: TurboSloN
            If the militia had MANPADS and enough grenade launchers with ammunition, neither turntables nor armored vehicles would snoop where they want and when they want.

            Turntables no longer snooping around ...
  5. Ussuriets
    Ussuriets 3 May 2014 06: 51
    +1
    I have no words sad !Sorry crying that I am far away.
  6. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 3 May 2014 06: 52
    +5
    How long does it take to apply aviation against the Nazis? that we will silently watch how people are killed? The lack of reaction of our government does not fit my head.
    1. domokl
      domokl 3 May 2014 07: 52
      +15
      Quote: vladsolo56
      How long does it take to apply aviation against the Nazis

      Who should I use? There is no aviation in the DPR, and Russia is not at war with Ukraine. In this case, the use of aviation by another state is an act of aggression ...
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 3 May 2014 09: 10
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        Who should I use? There is no aviation in the DPR, and Russia is not at war with Ukraine. In this case, the use of aviation by another state is an act of aggression ...

        Ossetia also does not have its own aviation. And tank brigades. And the Vostok battalion. And ... You get the idea.
        1. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2014 11: 53
          +2
          Quote: Native grandfather
          Ossetia also does not have its own aviation. And tank brigades. And the Vostok battalion. And ... You get the idea.

          In Ossetia, an attack was made on Russian peacekeepers who were there under an international mandate and were protected by international law. In addition, in Ossetia and Abkhazia, the majority of the population, by the time of the Georgian attack, were already Russian citizens ... Well, you understand ...
      2. VAF
        VAF 3 May 2014 09: 46
        +5
        Quote: domokl
        .And in this case, the use of aviation by another state is an act of aggression ...


        Yah? What about Yugoslavia? And Georgia? ...... and something no one hung Amers on a pillar of shame. A tie-eater on a palm tree wassat
        1. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2014 11: 55
          +3
          Quote: vaf
          Yah? What about Yugoslavia? And Georgia? ...... and something no one hung Amers on a pillar of shame. A tie-eater on a palm tree

          It's true. Nobody has canceled the right of the strong ... The Alliance still rules ...
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 3 May 2014 15: 19
            +5
            Quote: Nick
            It's true. Nobody has canceled the right of the strong ... The Alliance still rules ...

            That's right!
            And you can advise excessively active talkers, no, no, don't run away with a shotgun to Slavyansk rather, just think with your head, they not only eat with it. yes
            We haven’t imprisoned Perdyukov yet (or the investigation didn’t have time to finish it yet, or the amnesty was issued, for some reason, another question), but "some civilians" already thought that the Russian Federation was automatically re-creating powerful armed forces, just like the Soviet Union in its heyday.
            They also had a naive little idea in their brains - we were sent to the West and the USA and its sanctions, we supposedly saw everyone ...
            There is no such goodness "in nature"! request
            Everything is very serious, America is fighting for a unipolar world, for its right to screw it up at its own discretion. And this battle must be fought not in the style of the agitation campaigns of 1812 by Count Rostopchin, but thoughtfully, when carefully, when decisively, not succumbing to provocations. Moreover, the situation in the South-East (and in the same Odessa, I myself know) is complex, the opinions of the population are different and the willingness to crush the banderlog with whatever they can (grandmother with beer and antifreeze, granddaughters from a gun of some kind, a home-made land mine, etc.) most do not. And some part, and, by the way, a significant one - very "squishy", support the "Geyrop choice" and the Maydanuts.
            What to do, what to do?
            In my, of course, subjective view, it is officially impossible to send troops. Too many negative consequences. But a few thousand highly trained "volunteers": Cossacks, "Crimeans", Chechens, etc. necessary. It is necessary to neutralize the Ukrainian "prikordonniki" on the border with Donetsk and Lugansk regions, and company tactical groups of the aforementioned comrades, in jeeps, equipped with high-precision modern weapons (MANPADS, ATGM, control. Landmines, etc.), together with localwhich in In this case, there will be many(plus, perhaps, striking the RUK from the territory of the Russian Federation - you can prove the hell, there was - there was no junta in Kiev, there is no one to declare war wink ) must by actions from ambushes, at night inflict juntas on law enforcement officers and other security officials unacceptable losses. It would be nice to gasp, like Dudaev, their leaders.
            Only in this way can the "Army of the Donetsk Republic" force them to stop hostilities and start a "constructive dialogue". yes
            And the rest of the troops, especially air defense and aviation, should not give a chance, albeit a wretched one, but still the Ukrainian armies will bore us on our territory.
            1. Nick
              Nick 3 May 2014 18: 27
              +2
              Yes, Alexei, you have a straightforward plan of operation. In my opinion, very thoughtful ... good
      3. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 3 May 2014 14: 50
        0
        Well sit, wait when the Nazis come to you, stock up on diapers
  7. VadimL
    VadimL 3 May 2014 06: 52
    +1
    A fierce scribe came. The Kiev junta crossed all conceivable limits. I think it's time for Russia to intervene.
    1. Nick
      Nick 3 May 2014 12: 58
      0
      Quote: VadimL
      I think it's time for Russia to intervene.

      Duck already ... An emergency meeting of the UN Security Council on events in Ukraine, just at the initiative of Russia convened.
  8. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 3 May 2014 06: 54
    +6
    It’s a pity for people who are killed unarmed in vain, it may be enough for resistance leaders to put up unarmed people instead of shields, is it time to arm the people, because Slavyansk has huge arms depots near it? Distribute weapons to people, they will smash those storming people to pieces.
    1. Children BuryKonya
      Children BuryKonya 3 May 2014 07: 07
      +8
      I don’t understand this either, in the mine named after Volodarsky’s weapon for three world wars, and not only three-line, but also quite modern.
  9. Buran
    Buran 3 May 2014 06: 54
    +8
    Where is the real support of Russia ??? If we can’t bring in troops now, it's time to begin underground support. Weapons, specialists, intelligence.
    1. Combat279
      Combat279 3 May 2014 07: 18
      +10
      Dear, we are ready, but understand the possibility of a major armed conflict, it stops our leadership. It has long been clear that they just want to drag us into the conflict in Ukraine.
    2. ermolai
      ermolai 3 May 2014 07: 34
      +10
      It seems to me that until the 11th, at the official level of the Russian Federation, it will not be able to enter the armed forces. and after some time, but we are not silent. Churkin does not sleep, prepares a topic, and informals will surely appear, though without advertising
      although I don’t understand many points, they blocked the column of equipment. they opened fire and broke through, and Che, there was no bucket of gasoline? the Vedas kept a whole doen, but in order to be safe,
      made a cocktail, and threatened to burn, and all go on foot. what kind of braking people? should someone do for you? Will I write at home?
    3. niki233
      niki233 3 May 2014 18: 52
      0
      whom they support all the creeps sprawled, can not be organized a leader, not everyone on their own in this is the whole essence of Ukraine.
  10. Name
    Name 3 May 2014 07: 06
    +17
    The reaction of PEOPLE to the atrocities of NOT-PEOPLE cannot but rejoice:Israeli special forces battalion "Aliya" is ready to help Donbass in the fight against the fascist junta
    "Aliya" is an Israeli public organization of former military personnel who repatriated from the USSR and the CIS countries. Created in 2002. Contrary to popular belief, it is not an Israeli army reserve battalion. At the first stage, it included 378 former officers, of which every fifth was at the age of about 40 years. Among the members of the "Aliya" Battalion were various specialists: snipers, military doctors, paratroopers, dog handlers, etc. soldier

    see http://www.imperiya.by/news.html?id=134315
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 10: 30
      +6
      They are apparently doubly unpleasant to say the least that a Jew of Kalomoisk runs the coven.
  11. Stanislas
    Stanislas 3 May 2014 07: 07
    +8
    Does anyone here still oppose the seizure of the arsenal and armament of the inhabitants of southeastern Ukraine?
    1. Nick
      Nick 3 May 2014 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: Stanislav
      Does anyone here still oppose the seizure of the arsenal and armament of the inhabitants of southeastern Ukraine?

      Who is against it? But for some reason, the inhabitants of the southeast do not capture ...
  12. their
    their 3 May 2014 07: 10
    +6
    In no case can you not send troops to Ukraine. It's time to quench the hydra - Amerikosov and Britain.

    They want to set fire to Europe as always. But we need to hint to them, we can destroy America and Britain from 4 submarines.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 3 May 2014 07: 19
      +12
      It is clear that it is impossible to send troops clearly ........ we will be extreme and responsible for the ongoing massacre ..... we must send volunteer battalions, including the Kadyrovsky, to supply small arms and anti-tank weapons. air defense systems ........ We raise our hands and say that this is a noble impulse of the people to help brothers, we can’t influence in any way .................... ......... no other way yet!
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 3 May 2014 18: 35
        +2
        Plus. You can not enter. Unfortunately, this is impossible.
        But the MAJOR ENEMIES have now shown themselves to their full height and cannot be inserted without an answer in any case!
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  13. drujba
    drujba 3 May 2014 07: 11
    -3
    Yes, it’s time for us to act now. Enough of this diplomacy, even the UN Security Council doesn’t react to our statements. Let these devils scream from the USA and GEYropa, let them see what our army and people are capable of. And do not shut up, plant them poplars. am soldier
  14. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +19
    Damn, the day after I go to the draft board, they won't let me in, I will take the train. I'm on vacation, I pohren. Russia is silent, I can not, fed up
    1. MG42
      MG42 3 May 2014 10: 35
      0
      Only illegally cross
      Ukraine has banned the entry of Russians into the country
      Russian men (including Crimeans) in from 16 to 60 years old, entry into the territory of Ukraine is prohibited.

      Exceptions can be made only in exceptional cases (the presence of kinship, a serious illness, or the death of a relative in Ukraine), by decision of the head of the regional department (border detachment), Interfax reports. Such a notification was received by Aeroflot airline from the Ukrainian authorities, the news agency said. Without documentary evidence, only those Russians who are sent to Ukraine with children will be allowed to enter.

      Source: http://www.nn.ru/news/world/ukraina_zapretila_vezd_rossiyan_na_territoriyu_stran


      y.html
    2. Sasha1979
      Sasha1979 3 May 2014 16: 33
      0
      Sorry, you can’t put 100 pluses
  15. Kovlad
    Kovlad 3 May 2014 07: 16
    +6
    Now I am watching the news from Donbass. The man with the placard - "Miners don't want war!" But the Kiev junta really wants it. They easily call white black and vice versa, with the full support of the United States and the EU (just like that - with a small letter because these are not States). And the goal of this war is the Russian Federation. Now there is another war, perhaps a more difficult one - an information war. Kiev and America distort all the facts, turn everything upside down. To survive this war, then there will be Victory.
  16. svp67
    svp67 3 May 2014 07: 18
    +2
    It is necessary HOW TO act, the PS are completely insolent ... it’s time to restrain.
  17. Arkan
    Arkan 3 May 2014 07: 23
    +3
    At night, the Ukrainian National Guard stormed Kramatorsk, through the dead and wounded goes to dozens


    There is no united Ukraine! The civil war split the population of the country and this is FOREVER! "Seks" will go to the woods, where they will be buried.
  18. GRAY
    GRAY 3 May 2014 07: 29
    +10
    05 07
    firefight in Yasnogork (Kramatorsk).
    We agreed with the guys on the back that they would shoot the ammunition and let them go. Something went wrong, they started shooting at the crowd, there was a UAZ Patriot gray car nearby, there were people in it, they shot him, one immediately blew its head into the side window in the back seat, the other turned its thigh, and the third belly. The driver miraculously survived, he literally got out of the car in a second. Panic broke out, the ambulance couldn’t get under the fire to the place of the shootout, they asked for the wounded to be carried out, but no one could get up — they all pressed to the ground under fire. The wounded were dragged through a piece of iron, people huddled in the gap, everyone screams ... then they managed to agree.
    Result: the UAZ driver brought 5 corpses personally to the morgue. This is not all. In the morgue without police refused to accept the corpses, the whole gimmick took about an hour. There are still many wounded. The whole machine is flashed, the gas tank is broken, and gas equipment was not hit by a miracle. Everything is saturated with blood, brains in the trunk ... YOU ONLY TELL ME, THIS WE ARE CRIMINALS ?!
    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1570710.html
  19. Hamul
    Hamul 3 May 2014 07: 31
    +3
    Guys are all very bad.
    It’s not a matter of what the Kiev news is saying there, but how people themselves think

    here is part of my correspondence with one of my comrades he lives in Podil:


    [02.05.2014/23/17 27:XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul: that is, do you think it is right to burn people alive to the nationalists?
    [02.05.2014/23/18 01:2:2014] stalk / Sergey: [May 23, 18 XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul:

    <<< there was terrorism And in Slavyansk there were ,, peaceful ,, inhabitants with Strela MANPADS, right? And in the same place the same s cut the bellies of people! No?
    [02.05.2014 23:18:14] Hamul: yeah
    [02.05.2014/23/18 29:XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul: and there are already more pears in your SBU than in the gro
    [02.05.2014 23:18:46] Hamul: and there are also Crimean wives from the USA
    [02.05.2014/23/18 52:XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul:
    [02.05.2014 23:18:57] Hamul: watch streams
    [02.05.2014/23/19 45:2:2014] stalk / Sergey: [May 23, 19 XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul:

    <<< And even in your SBU there are already grushnikov more than in the grocery But I would not be so jerky, you yourself probably know that your hand in the east of my country was put. Just like in the Crimea
    [02.05.2014 23:20:13] Hamul: There is no shooting in the Crimea, people don’t crush people with tanks,
    [02.05.2014 23:20:27] Hamul: do you know what terrorism is?
    [02.05.2014 23:20:45] Hamul: come to Volgograd
    [02.05.2014 23:20:59] Hamul: there you will see an exploded trolley bus and a bus
    [02.05.2014 23:21:26] Hamul: I never thought that I would live to these days
    [02.05.2014 23:21:59] Hamul: come to the formidable one, look and ask around like what
    [02.05.2014/23/22 33:XNUMX:XNUMX] stalk / Sergey: Did you immediately understand what you said? you came to the Crimea (Ukrainian), and your soldiers sent barrels to the unarmed! Although ... what am I talking about? But you think that everything was done there correctly and, most importantly, they restored historical ,, justice ,,! Which no one needs except your petty fucker!
    [02.05.2014 23:23:05] Hamul: cool
    [02.05.2014/23/23 22:7:XNUMX] Hamul: but tell me this on SkypeXNUMX
    [02.05.2014/23/23 31:2:2014] stalk / Sergey: [May 23, 23 XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul:
  20. Hamul
    Hamul 3 May 2014 07: 32
    +1
    <<< come to Grozny, look and ask how and whatYou remember how Chechnya began! Just don't talk about terrorist attacks like the houses blown up in Russia!
    [02.05.2014 23:23:36] Hamul: yeah
    [02.05.2014 23:23:41] Hamul: I will tell you
    [02.05.2014 23:23:53] Hamul: about the trains that blew up for 5 years
    [02.05.2014 23:24:04] Hamul: before the Dudaev raised his flag
    [02.05.2014 23:24:14] Hamul: and then I will show you Budennovsk
    [02.05.2014 23:24:34] Hamul: and then I will tell you how my refugee lived at home
    [02.05.2014/23/24 43:XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul: and what horrors told
    [02.05.2014/23/24 47:2:2014] stalk / Sergey: [May 23, 25 XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul:

    <<< about the trains that blew up 5 years old laugh! and all these 5 !!! years Putin waited and waited ????
    [02.05.2014/23/24 56:XNUMX:XNUMX] Hamul: I also have a half-woman working




    [1:16:43] stalk / Sergey: [1:16] Hamul:

    <<< American Mojjahideen are happy to put pressure on Ingushetia and Dagestan. I read, and your operations are carried out there, right? terrorists7
    [1:16:59] Hamul: Serge, damn it
    [1:17:14] stalk / Sergey: what, isn’t it?
    [1:17:26] Hamul: who are the terrorists? and how do they differ from protesters?
    [1:17:51] Hamul: please answer
    [1:27:31] stalk / Sergey: [1:18] Hamul:

    <<< who are terrorists? And how do they differ from the protesters? Well, yes, the protesters have anti-aircraft guns and modern construction weapons, who can argue?
    [1:27:44] Hamul: you essentially pliz
    [1:28:04] Hamul: who are terrorists - definition
    [1:29:10] stalk / Sergey: I answered you, with reference to the situation
    [1:29:15] Hamul: damn
    [1:29:24] stalk / Sergey: and definition- on the wiki
    [1:29:36] stalk / Sergey: I do not want to search
    [1:29:44] Hamul: the hague league
    [1:30:00] Hamul: Serge - you will be very surprised very much
    [1:30:08] stalk / Sergey: not sure
    [1:30:23] Hamul: Terrorism is a policy based on the systematic use of terror [1] [2]. Synonyms of the word "terror" (Latin terror - fear, horror) are the words "violence", "intimidation", "intimidation" [3].

    In Russian law, terrorism is defined as the ideology of violence and the practice of influencing public consciousness, decision-making by public authorities, local authorities or international organizations related to intimidation of the population and / or other forms of unlawful violent actions [4] In US law, as intentional , politically motivated violence committed against civilians or objects by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually with the aim of influencing the mood of society. [5]
    [1:31:04 | Changed 1:31:13] Hamul: now, based on this definition, tell me - those who are in Slavyansk - who is this?
    [1:32:01] stalk / Sergey: you answered, in the definition
    [1:32:16] Hamul: well, ka nuka
    [1:32:19] Hamul:))))))))))))))
    [1:32:59] stalk / Sergey: [1:31] Hamul:

    <<< usually with the aim of influencing the mood of society. [5] one of the manifestations, well, murder too
    [1:33:23] Hamul: gygygygygy
    [1:33:42] Hamul: where is the bullying of civilians? Or are you about the authorities of Kiev?
    [1:34:35] stalk / Sergey: [1:34] stalk / Sergey:

    <<< usually for the purpose of influencing the mood of the community.
    [1:34:42] Hamul: but wait)))) terrorism is intimidation of the authorities))))))))))))))
    [1:35:10] Hamul: damn it, terrorism is an action against civilians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    [1:35:20] Hamul: understand ????????
    [1:35:41] stalk / Sergey: add for what purpose - - it will not be superfluous
    [1:36:14] Hamul: a terrorist is one who comes to school - captures hostages - wraps them with explosives and sits waiting to fulfill his requirements
    [1:36:46] stalk / Sergey: [1:36] Hamul:
  21. Hamul
    Hamul 3 May 2014 07: 34
    +2
    <<< terrorism is an action against the civilian population !! and the fact that they ripped open their bellies and left two people to die - what do you think? self-defense?
    [1:36:59] Hamul: a nuka dike stsil
    [1:37:15] Hamul: ok, everything that you and Yurka threw off was a production
    [1:37:24] stalk / Sergey: and so? missed something?
    [1:37:25] Hamul: And you about deputies)))))
    [1:37:53] Hamul: are you sure that it’s peaceful so mocked?
    [1:38:13] stalk / Sergey: and who said about the peace?
    [1:38:31] Hamul: wait a minute, is there any exact data who did this?
    [1:39:14] stalk / Sergey: and by that time in Slavyansk there wasn’t, except ... xs what to call
    [1:39:22] Hamul: uuuuuuuuuuuu
    [1:39:29] stalk / Sergey: those and uuu
    [1:39:35] Hamul: maybe it was a gang fight))))))))))))
    [1:39:52] Hamul: Serge, Killing one is not terrorism
    [1:40:05] stalk / Sergey: yes, what the fuck
    [1:40:33] Hamul: but when 40 people were burned under cameras - is this an act of retaliation?
    [1:40:42] Hamul: some kind of inconsistency
    [1:40:47] stalk / Sergey: and whom did they burn?
    [1:40:55] Hamul: 40 people in Odessa
    [1:41:01] stalk / Sergey: whom?
    [1:41:06] Hamul: ?????????????????????????
    [1:41:21] Hamul: DO NOT YOU KNOW THE FINGER?
    [1:41:30] stalk / Sergey: and who burned?
    [1:41:38] stalk / Sergey: do not shout
    [1:41:59] Hamul: damn gray - for two hours now, as the corpses consider
    [1:42:26] Hamul: 30 choked with carbon monoxide
    [1:42:48] Hamul: 8 burned ejected from the building
    [1:43:37] stalk / Sergey: well, and who fired, whom, for what?
    [1:43:55] Hamul: football fans - separatists
    [1:44:24] Hamul: http://echo.msk.ru/news/1312306-echo.html
    [1:45:26] stalk / Sergey: well, the rules, like that, and in Slavyansk it was necessary, the current much earlier, as the flags began to break. In general, there, in Odessa, the separs also distinguished themselves - so rightly so
    [1:46:02] Hamul: Serge, wait a little explain
    [1:46:22] Hamul: that is, when it was unknown who 2 were killed - these are terrorists
    [1:46:38] Hamul: and when 40 people were burned alive, is that right?
    [1:46:51] Hamul:
    [1:47:35] stalk / Sergey: [1:47] Hamul:

    <<< that is, when unknown who killed the 2nd - it is a terrorist, never for anything - yes. And separatism is punishable in your country too, no?
    [1:47:55] Hamul: that is, 40 people were killed for something?
    [1:48:22] Hamul: as I understand it, you support it
    [1:48:50] stalk / Sergey: if the authorities cannot make a strong-willed decision, this is what people do.
    [1:49:22] Hamul:
    [1:49:32] stalk / Sergey: what are you saying?
    [1:49:37] Hamul: that is, you will also go to burn people?
    [1:49:45] Hamul: this is your power)))))
    [1:49:52] Hamul: you brought her to power
    [1:50:25] Hamul: that is, you also have at least 40 lives on you?
    [1:50:59] Hamul: that is, when the Maidan stood, did your former prezik even have to water you with flamethrowers?
    [1:51:28] stalk / Sergey: his gut is thin, and that would not help him
    [1:51:41] Hamul: it's not that his gut is thin
    [1:51:58] Hamul: the thing is what you say - that he had to do it
    [1:52:27] Hamul: that is, you are for the destruction of any protest moods
    [1:52:37] Hamul: with brutal suppression
    [1:53:02] stalk / Sergey: [1:53] Hamul:
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  23. Magadan
    Magadan 3 May 2014 07: 37
    +24
    Before accusing the Russian leadership of indecision, think about:
    This is WORSE than it was in Ossetia. This is not an army. These are scum that burn people alive and chop off limbs while still alive. Take it on video and mock it. Spread it on the Internet. Fly for 5000 dollars
    to kill people. Crushing tanks living chain of women. I do not know HOW to call these nonhumans. And all these are run by satanugs who are stuck with blood in the junta. A chewing tie is just an angel compared to them.
    And you think that the usual deployment of troops on the model of Ossetia, is this enough? No, guys, I think now they’ll clean up all the scum. Which burned, killed, crushed tanks, gave orders, wrote their Nazi posts on the internet. ALL. Take turns. By any means.
    I believe that Russia will eradicate all these last survivors of the "heroes-Bandera". And the corresponding plan is being developed and the corresponding troops are being prepared. If not already developed and ready.
    We stop arguing in forums with the great Ukrainians. All words are spoken, arguments are given.
    Inhumans will receive their dose of eternal shame, damnation and hellish punishment.
    God is not in power, but in Truth. And may the Lord help us all.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 3 May 2014 14: 54
      0
      But I do not believe, and time will judge us,
  24. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 3 May 2014 08: 01
    +4
    Do not do something! Russia must intervene, people are dying like cockroaches.
    In Odessa, 38 civilians were burned alive at the hands of law enforcement officers.

    "The editor of" Antifashist "managed to talk on the phone with one of the" Kulikovites "who miraculously survived a terrible fire staged by the Junta assassins in the building of the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. that he managed to return from hell.

    According to Yuri, there were no more than 250 of them, the activists of Kulikov Pole, at the time of the clash with the radicals "PSami". This total number included about three dozen guys-guards, the rest - ordinary Odessa residents of middle and old age, among whom there are many women.

    “After the battles on Grecheskaya and Sobornaya squares, the Nazis launched an offensive on Kulikovo Pole. There were several thousand of them. Our forces were not equal, and besides, we had no weapons at all! We were forced to retreat and decided to barricade ourselves in the building of the House Trade unions, which is nearby. What happened next - I still can't figure it out, "- the voice of the interlocutor trembles.

    According to Yuri, traumatic and firearms were immediately used against them. “The guy who was next to me was immediately“ laid down. ”We were driven inside the building and all escape routes were cut off. I found myself in the right wing of the third floor, there were about ten of us in some room. Pravoseki people started throwing Molotov cocktails into the building. "and shoot at the windows. The first floor burned, then - higher, the smoke spread through the corridors, it was impossible to leave ... We opened and knocked out the windows, but this did not help: the smoke from the street was sucked into the room. Someone jumped out, they were below From below shouted "Glory to Ukraine" and "Death to the enemies" ... It was hell! Firefighters arrived, began to extinguish the 3st floor ... "- says an eyewitness.

    Further, according to the miracle of the survivor, he vaguely remembers his actions. Everyone was gasping around, in the building they screamed and begged for mercy ...

    "I remember how I took off my camouflage, and a comrade who was nearby" in civilian clothes "gave me some kind of sports trowel. And we rushed right into the corridor, stumbling over corpses. There were a lot of them, I can't say the exact number, but a lot ... There was no light, something was cracking around, we, like zombies, got to the fire escape on the 1st floor. I don't know how it happened. On the 1st floor, the fire was already extinguished, at the emergency exit we saw several right-sided roads "They turned on" the fool, and to their call "Stop!" They answered "lads, we are our own!" For some reason, they did not begin to find out, obviously, they were faced with some other tasks ... So we got out into the air and without identification marks mixed with the crowd ... "- said Yuri.

    "We lost this battle, because we were not collected and organized. But all those who died from Kulikovo field are heroes. They went to certain death. This is Odessa Khatyn ... When I caught my breath, I came to my senses (I had a terrible headache, I didn't could speak!), dialed the phone number of his friend, who was in the building of the House of Trade Unions somewhere on the lower floors ... But someone's voice answered into the receiver that he was dead ... I will never forget this horror ... "- summed up the interlocutor and, referring to the fact that he would now find out who was still alive using the phone numbers he had, he wished to end the conversation."
  25. Vlom
    Vlom 3 May 2014 08: 07
    +9
    Quote: GRAY
    05 07
    firefight in Yasnogork (Kramatorsk).
    We agreed with the guys on the back that they would shoot the ammunition and let them go. Something went wrong, they started shooting at the crowd, there was a UAZ Patriot gray car nearby, there were people in it, they shot him, one immediately blew its head into the side window in the back seat, the other turned its thigh, and the third belly. The driver miraculously survived, he literally got out of the car in a second. Panic broke out, the ambulance couldn’t get under the fire to the place of the shootout, they asked for the wounded to be carried out, but no one could get up — they all pressed to the ground under fire. The wounded were dragged through a piece of iron, people huddled in the gap, everyone screams ... then they managed to agree.
    Result: the UAZ driver brought 5 corpses personally to the morgue. This is not all. In the morgue without police refused to accept the corpses, the whole gimmick took about an hour. There are still many wounded. The whole machine is flashed, the gas tank is broken, and gas equipment was not hit by a miracle. Everything is saturated with blood, brains in the trunk ... YOU ONLY TELL ME, THIS WE ARE CRIMINALS ?!
    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1570710.html

    Yes, it's you criminals. Being a stupid unarmed sheep is a crime for those who came to you on armored personnel carriers.
    What did they bring to you with the KPVT? Someone wrote correctly - it was necessary to burn the entire column. These military men made their choice, all of them are adult competent people. The civil war is so terrible that - HAVE to make a choice.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 3 May 2014 08: 23
      0
      Also write that those guys in the House of Trade Unions are themselves to blame and burned themselves.
      Freak.
  26. Yorgven
    Yorgven 3 May 2014 08: 09
    -2
    It is time to launch a bombing raid on Kiev and destroy these geeks.
  27. vvp2412
    vvp2412 3 May 2014 08: 18
    +5
    Brothers, stop feeling sorry for these creatures who came to kill you! You take them alive captive, treat the wounded, they kill the unarmed! 40 people burned in Odessa! Have no mercy on the creatures!
  28. Grbear
    Grbear 3 May 2014 08: 34
    +3
    If the DPR lasts until Monday (Security Council on the weekend), collecting data on the crimes of the junta, then on Tuesday everything will be clear.
    "In war, as in war" ©. It is cynical, but victory, implicated in blood, is valued by the winner higher and is better guarded.
  29. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 May 2014 08: 49
    +3
    We can crush economically Ukraine within a month. At least gas chopping over the coming weeks. Then we block the borders for Gaster. And non-blocking. Moreover, without any troop entry. Until the fall, they will devour all their belts. So from this side we can do anything. But Russia is trying to show the whole world that Westernizers are standing with their promises and assurances. That is, they lower Europe and the Amers lower and lower. Help will be self-sufficient, it is possible that in the form of termination of external support of the junta.
  30. Bayonet
    Bayonet 3 May 2014 08: 59
    +6
    Why not remember volunteers like during the Spanish Civil War? If not officially, then privately.
  31. denchik1977
    denchik1977 3 May 2014 09: 25
    +1
    In light of the recent events in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Odessa, the Russian leadership should proceed to decisive and tough action .... If this is not done now, then the entire "fascist infection" will be on the territory of Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov regions ... It is necessary to immediately put an end to the genocide of Russian people who, by the will of fate, ended up outside of Russia ...
  32. Vesnjanka
    Vesnjanka 3 May 2014 09: 38
    +1
    Here you are, not Donbass, punishers!
  33. propolsky
    propolsky 3 May 2014 09: 42
    +2
    Why is the West silent about the killings in Odessa? People burned alive! Probably democratically burned ... We have never been and never will be friends, so by force partners. (like in shitty sex)
    1. boozer
      boozer 3 May 2014 10: 12
      +2
      If they themselves sponsor and encourage these murders. If the Ukrainian military is still yelling from Belbek: "Amerikaaaa with us!" When the Berkut was burned, the mattress called it a peaceful demonstration, here, after the massacre in Odessa, they already declare the legitimate actions of "law-abiding" "citizens" together with the police. Where is the world heading?
  34. Russ69
    Russ69 3 May 2014 09: 46
    +1
    Quote: propolsky
    Why is the West silent about the killings in Odessa?

    And what should he talk about? If banderlogs burned, then they would pay attention immediately. Gayropeyskie values, in action ...
  35. Prometey
    Prometey 3 May 2014 09: 46
    +3
    I’m watching the news and don’t understand what the militia of Slavyansk are waiting for. The tactics of stopping armored personnel carriers with a live shield no longer works. It is already clear that Bandera came to shoot and kill. They should not be stopped by people, but by grenade launchers. Afraid of shedding blood? But this is nonsense, the militias will not shoot, they will shoot at them. And yet it is not clear why Donetsk does not send reinforcements to Slavyansk - or is there nobody to send? In short, I can not understand a fig.
    Condolences to all the families and friends of the victims in Odessa. Odessans seem to have their own city from a radical seam no longer separated.
  36. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 3 May 2014 09: 49
    +1
    I am very worried about "post-Maidanutaia" Europe - will All Judas be named at the end of the 20th and beginning of the 21st century?
  37. azkolt
    azkolt 3 May 2014 09: 54
    +2
    I don't know, there are no words, only emotions! Intellectually understand that all this mess is invented for us, on the other hand we have to do something! I personally will be very ashamed if everything ends with the UN Security Council, where the government of Ukraine may even be criticized for being too "harsh". You can't bring people back! I really, really hope that our leadership is silent because they came up with something, and not on the weekend fries kebabs. I repeat, if the Maydauns are given a descent, I will be very ashamed of Russia, for all these loud words previously said. Damn, in the end we had to try to arm them better, lure their equipment into the city and burn there, as the Chechens did in January 95. But you cannot send Chechens there, they will be too noticeable there!
  38. boozer
    boozer 3 May 2014 09: 56
    0
    There is a great tragedy in Ukraine, a civil war, and here we are actually engaged in verbiage. The coward Yanukovych betrayed everyone, with his connivance and thieving indecision killed police officers and ordinary citizens in Kiev, his flight led to a split of the state, his throwing between Europe and Russia brought the fascist-Bendera junta to power, his flirting with the "radicals" led to the Odessa tragedies and deaths in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. And they blame us - Russia! And further. V. Churkin disappointed yesterday. Well, gently somehow ... I understand there is no time to properly prepare, the situation changed every minute, consultations, negotiations, phone calls ... If only he presented the photographs in color from the places of events from Odessa, Slavyansk ... He did not convince me yesterday either. ..
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 3 May 2014 18: 21
      0
      Quote: boozer
      V. Churkin disappointed yesterday.

      Quote: boozer
      I wish I could have presented the photos in color from the events from Odessa, Slavyansk ... He did not convince me yesterday either ...

      Are you that child? How old are you?
      When in the history of mankind someone was persuaded with color (and black and white) photographs?
      Comrade Mao Tse-tung, in due time, absolutely correctly said: a rifle (and not convincing photos) gives rise to power!
      Only hundreds, thousands of dead right-wingers, the military, who, no matter what circumstances, are fighting for the Banderlog, as well as many wounded and crippled, among whom there will be "commanding persons" can convince very firmly. And all of them.
      It always has been.
  39. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 3 May 2014 09: 57
    +4
    Special equipment is not enough, night devices, MANPADS and other ....
  40. Giant thought
    Giant thought 3 May 2014 10: 03
    +4
    Hold on, brothers! We are with all our hearts. For some reason, the Russian leadership is in no hurry to help you. Very annoying, and bad at heart from this.
  41. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 3 May 2014 10: 47
    +1
    It was hoped that decent Ukrainian military would not begin to vocally with their own. But no, they are even fighting. And I do not think that there are any of the radicals behind the helms of helicopters and planes.
  42. Valrad
    Valrad 3 May 2014 10: 57
    +3
    Quote: i
    In Ukraine, even in the southeast there is no unity, Russia does not know what you want and does not see the desire of people to change something. Yes, there are some people on the barricades, but this is a drop in the bucket of the total number of inhabitants of this part of Ukraine.
    In Crimea everything was clear, the people there clearly and clearly said "no" to the Kiev authorities. And if we bring in our troops to the southeast, where is the guarantee that some sympathetic junta will not shoot us in the back.


    young people in Ukraine are almost without exception for independence and Russia is an enemy. whom to protect
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 3 May 2014 18: 42
      0
      I confirm. Truly so. There were many friends on U. Now there is no desire to communicate with anyone at all.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 4 May 2014 08: 09
        0
        Quote: Baikal
        I confirm. Truly so. There were many friends on U. Now there is no desire to communicate with anyone at all.

        That's right!
        How all enraged, educated and uneducated. and the educated are even dumber and more aggressive than the uneducated.
        He wrote more than once that "without suffering there is no repentance."
        Suffering has already begun in full when repentance comes ...
  43. SergeyBI
    SergeyBI 3 May 2014 11: 19
    +1
    [quote = Valrad] Why is the West silent about the killings in Odessa?
    Why is Odessa silent? !!!
  44. Vlom
    Vlom 3 May 2014 11: 30
    +7
    Quote: Valrad
    Quote: i
    In Ukraine, even in the southeast there is no unity, Russia does not know what you want and does not see the desire of people to change something. Yes, there are some people on the barricades, but this is a drop in the bucket of the total number of inhabitants of this part of Ukraine.
    In Crimea everything was clear, the people there clearly and clearly said "no" to the Kiev authorities. And if we bring in our troops to the southeast, where is the guarantee that some sympathetic junta will not shoot us in the back.


    young people in Ukraine are almost without exception for independence and Russia is an enemy. whom to protect

    Right Today I watched different videos from Odessa all morning. All Odessa young for independence.
    Why was it okay with yesterday’s supporters of anti-Maidan, if you - SOMEONE to help, and all of you a couple hundred
    to the whole city? Here is the result. You need to think with your head before starting fights. Odessa - FULLY Bandera.
    These are hard facts. This is even visible from Siberia. And here, on the forum - aliens write: Adesa, get up!
    Here she (Odessa) got up yesterday. Sorry for the dead. They died in vain.
  45. prophet
    prophet 3 May 2014 11: 40
    +1
    Quote: lg41
    And what. Is Shoigu somehow different from Yanukovych?
    The same public gullibility. The same cowardice.
    Thanks to such "leaders", the Americans will kill the Slavs by someone else's hands soon on the territory of Russia.

    differs in that it does not "play" both yours and ours. And the theme of cowardice is already zamyana-women stop the columns, at checkpoints unarmed. National Guard to them, they are in the forest and the field. Someone else's hands are good to rake in the heat. If you want help, decide
  46. TCO
    TCO 3 May 2014 11: 46
    +1
    Yes, the young are all for independence, I know this, since my mother-in-law has relatives in the Kherson region. live.
  47. SEKTRIS
    SEKTRIS 3 May 2014 11: 51
    +1
    Quote: SergeyBI
    Why is Odessa silent? !!!

    Because Obama and Merkel were forbidden to talk about anything at all!
  48. aina01
    aina01 3 May 2014 12: 45
    +2
    cowardly Odessa Jewish community! He only knows how to rob people, but to plot at others’s expense! I don’t believe that she was not informed about the number of PSs who arrived in Odessa, everything happens under their dictation, with their tacit consent or contingency management. I am sure that there are no Jews among the dead.
  49. Captain45
    Captain45 3 May 2014 13: 02
    +8
    Quote: TurboSloN
    If the militia had MANPADS and enough grenade launchers with ammunition, neither turntables nor armored vehicles would snoop where they want and when they want.

    Judging by the photos and videos from Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, the militia have RPG-26s and 29s, but you can't hear about the destroyed armored personnel carriers or show off for a photo. What is the use of these "checkpoints" if the right-hand people are brazenly scampering around the cities and shooting from the rooftops. Since the city has taken power, all entrances should be blocked, life-support facilities are taken under protection, the weapons available in the city are concentrated in one place and in the same hands, the city is divided into squares, the elders are appointed, the militia is organized into squads, platoons, companies with specific tasks for each unit and verification of their development, so that: "Each soldier can understand his maneuver" .Suvorov. And so one blah-blah-blah, from a hundred thousand cities 2-3 thousand go to the rally, the rest are at home, waiting for whose will take. Where are the 50 thousand people of the "Army of the South-East" declared by Bolotov, which There are enough 3-4 thousand active organized bayonets with army discipline and a clear formulation of tasks and all this foam (maydauny and cutoffs) would have blown away long ago, and the army once specifically got a bayonet in the teeth in the ground and in huts to the zhinki ...
    1. TurboSloN
      TurboSloN 3 May 2014 13: 48
      +4
      Remember the storming of Grozny, the militants did not have armored vehicles (not counting a couple of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles), but to the very center of the city each house was a fortress and the militants did what they wanted, especially in the first company, we suffered huge losses. So what prevents the militia from doing so so that fascist right-wingers were afraid of every house, every window from the basement, every bush and corner? Moreover, the Ukrainian army has no experience in conducting military operations in the city.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 3 May 2014 20: 12
      0
      Quote: Captain45
      Judging by the photos and videos from Slavyansk, Kramatorsk RPG-26 and 29, the militias have, only about the crashed armored personnel carriers are not heard or is it to show off for the photo.

      I agree with you. This militia is chewing snot, hiding behind the backs of women and unarmed people who go out against the army columns. Where is at least one fired armored personnel carrier ?. If you've armed and said "A", it's time to say "B". And so some half measures, all some kind of waiting. Shouted, but disperse. If you took up arms, then be ready to go to the end, or lay down your arms and accept the terms of the junta.
  50. Viktori1
    Viktori1 3 May 2014 14: 28
    +1
    Where is the justice ... why can any Barack Obamovich, Merkel, sectarian Pentecostal Turchinov, Scientologist Yaytsenyuk fire people alive, shoot ... our ... Slavs ... when retribution falls upon their heads ... After all, we believers, God protect our people from this world of fascism, show your strength
    1. Horde
      Horde 3 May 2014 14: 59
      -3
      Quote: Viktori1
      God protect our people from this world of fascism, show your strength


      Why did you come to pray on the site? go to church ask gentlemen, is it true that our Lord, as it does not help the Russians, maybe this is not our Lord?
      1. Belarus
        Belarus 3 May 2014 15: 39
        0
        I allow myself to disagree with you. Each of the ordinary people in this case helps as he can. Someone can help with money, someone with a prayer, someone can go there or go.
        So you are wrong in this case, you better ask the Russian leadership how much blood should still be shed so that in the Russian leadership they would cease to occupy the kitchen and help at least with weapons at least specialists.