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Rating employee Blackwater on the combat capability of the military from different countries

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Opinion of one of the Blackwater employees about mercenaries and regular armed formations


Rating employee Blackwater on the combat capability of the military from different countries


8. African tribes.
It's not even interesting to fight them. They shoot randomly, they don’t know about aiming shooting. Often they scrub the ground under their feet.
Habitual get into his.
Run away to the side after several casualties or a shot from tank.
Rating - meat.

7. African regulars.
Differ from their wild counterparts only in the presence of the form and modest skills aimed fire. They are combat-ready against savages, but clashing with a more capable adversary, even Arabs, leads them into panic and flight.
Act in harmony with armored vehicles do not know how in principle.
Rating - meat in the package.

6. Arabs.
Mercenaries, rebels, many regulars ...
The concepts of tactics and strategies for them are as far as the delights of Samantha Fox to an average homosexual from the banks of the Seine. Their war is to shoot ammunition boxes in the direction of the enemy, while calling to the bar and periodically blowing themselves up with everything that comes handy. However, the latter does not apply to regulars, they are relatively silent and disciplined, they know how to use grenades.
Cowardly, but not alarmist.
Rating is a convenient target.

5. American regulars.
How many films are shot about the invincible American army ... There is only one BUT.
The Yankees are absolutely unable to fight without artillery preparation, tanks and air strikes.
If the territory was not burned to the state of a deserted desert, the soldiers will not go there. And if they do, they do not return back.
They shoot very well, well coordinated, but are timid in front of any resistance. Then become easy prey.
Losses are going through hard, until the complete loss of combat capability. Underpants.
Rating - biting dogs.

4. American mercenaries.
Good fighters. They know how to act as a team, and alone, beautiful shooters. There are desperate individuals that are sometimes difficult to cope with.
But they have a very weak point - morality. And the lack of motivation, except money. The corpse does not need money, so most of them do not climb there,
where it is absolutely hot. And in every possible way avoid the first line of fire.
Dogs of war, if evaluated.

3. Asians.
I did not come across regulars. Mercenaries are able to deliver a painful headache to any opponent. If act as a group.
What is in their heads is not clear, but they are capable of any folly. They shoot beautifully, they often act from ambushes, into which the enemy enters according to a cunning plan. Asians do not care about the support of equipment, aircraft and shells.
They do not care if there are cartridges or not. The main thing is the presence of fellows.
But alone, alas, they become useless.
Rating - the army of the emperor.

2. Caucasians and Afghans.
Strong warriors. Fine arrows. Hardy, brave.
Able to act in groups, alone, motivated and insidious. In combat, they act competently, they know tactics and strategy. They are not afraid of technology and air strikes, they effectively operate from ambushes
They have the only weak point - unable to fight to the last breath, a rare fighter is able to sacrifice themselves for the sake of common victory. Unless he is a shahid, but this is completely different. история...
Rating - real fighters.

1. Russians.
To oppose the platoon of Russian mercenaries is a fierce, bloody kapets.
They fight to the end, to the last bullet, and when ammunition runs out, they use everything they have at hand. Mortally wounded Russian? Do not touch him, most likely before his death - he squeezed a grenade without checks.
Russian inventive, have excellent intuition. And ... they don't care.
Did the plane arrive? Anyway, knocked down with a sapper shovel. Tank? Anyway, if not broken arms. Fighters who have never held SVD are able to get out of it at the critical range at a critical moment.
And still, that it was the last cartridge, they will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easily! Any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy ...
Russians, even mercenaries, are not able to retreat.
And if they retreat, they can be sure they are just running for the cartridges.
All of the above applies to the army, who are more or less fired.
However, for this, in most cases, sufficient - the only clash ...
Ranking - Warriors!
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  1. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 1 May 2014 08: 20
    +112
    Patriotism is pouring over the edge, but that is how it essentially is.)
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 1 May 2014 08: 42
      +83
      Rating employee Blackwater on the combat capability of the military from different countries

      This employee is by chance not one of those who disappeared near Donetsk?
      1. jura61
        jura61 1 May 2014 09: 10
        +21
        Probably, I'm not ready to sacrifice myself, I must save my ass "Dogs of War" not to let not take.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 1 May 2014 11: 42
          +81
          Quote: jura61
          "Dogs of War" do not give not take.

          Instruction for an American pilot from the Cold War. I personally read it in 1986, and since then I remember: The Soviet pilot is a product of a tough totalitarian system, and therefore is absolutely unpredictable in battle. Recommendations: do not get involved in a long protracted battle. If you could not get it off the first time , more chance he will not provide you.
          1. alleksSalut4507
            alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 11: 48
            +10
            Soviet pilot.
            1. miha.ru
              miha.ru 3 May 2014 20: 36
              +5
              Soviet or Russian students are not present; one school of present-day Russians is taught by the Soviet people, so it’s passed down from generation to generation, which cannot be taken away from Russian ducks
          2. rauffg
            rauffg 2 May 2014 14: 37
            +31
            The fact of the actual participation of the USSR Air Force in the Korean War is mixed with the widespread, but not actually confirmed, rumor about the participation of Soviet pilots in air battles in Vietnam. Here is one of these tales, "Finding a normal Vietnam is a problem. They are small, dead, do not hold an overload. Our guys kept it up to 10g, but these guys already lost consciousness at five. They were force-fed, they were given a tribunal if someone put meat. he won't eat rations, they were twisted on simulators - all to no avail. They lose consciousness and that's it. American pilots quickly realized that all Vietnamese aviation is divided into Russian pilots and Vietnamese. Shooting down Vietnam is an honorable, profitable business (the money paid good), and most importantly - safe. With the Russians, things were much worse. You throw out on them like unexpectedly from the sunny side, out of the cloud, like you hit for sure, and he will make an anti-missile maneuver, spin a figure with an awesome overload, and already on your tail. The Americans quickly realized how to distinguish Russian from Viet Nam. There is a battle, as a rule it is very fleeting. A phantom on the tail of the MiG. The MiG makes a maneuver, the overload increases, five, six - hop! the wings trembled for a second, barely noticeable- everything is clear, vietnam. You don't have to be afraid. But if on 8g the MiG also confidently performs a maneuver, then it is definitely not Vietnam, but Russian, and hell knows how it all ends. Therefore, the Americans openly went on the air and with the phrase "Vanya! I'm gone!" left the battle. Flies, Vietnamese over Hanoi, and here - "phantoms". He presses the button, shoots - by, once again - by again. In general, there is nowhere to go, the Americans squeezed. Then he presses the red button, and then someone slaps him on the shoulder: "Come on, bro, move over." laughing laughing laughing
          3. lyrics
            lyrics 2 May 2014 21: 00
            +15
            I'm cheating! Although, indeed it is! For us Russians, the main thing is to get involved in a fight. And then ... then we will wet any adversary. It doesn’t matter what: with weapons, teeth, hands, fists ... Hatred and the ultimate intelligence working to destroy the enemy.
            1. Nick
              Nick 3 May 2014 13: 24
              +11
              Quote: lirik
              And then ... then we will wet any adversary. It doesn’t matter what: with weapons, teeth, hands, fists ... Hatred and the ultimate intelligence working to destroy the enemy.

              Natural selection, otherwise the Russians could not survive ... The very history of Russia forged these qualities of the people ...
              1. Dmitry Toderes
                Dmitry Toderes 23 July 2014 20: 21
                -3
                Quote: Nick
                Quote: lirik
                And then ... then we will wet any adversary. It doesn’t matter what: with weapons, teeth, hands, fists ... Hatred and the ultimate intelligence working to destroy the enemy.

                Natural selection, otherwise the Russians could not survive ... The very history of Russia forged these qualities of the people ...


                Yes, if Russia were any other country with any other people - they would be exactly the same as the Russians.
            2. dmitrij.blyuz
              dmitrij.blyuz 8 May 2014 11: 58
              0
              And if they retreat, they can be sure they are just running for the cartridges."You betrayed it! As in the song: If we move away, then we will go forward! (Russian roads) good
          4. 573385
            573385 4 May 2014 01: 53
            +7
            Mom’s memory. The first week of the war. Vidza district. In broad daylight, several Nazi planes attacked one of ours. First, he also shot as the fabric was torn, and then it stopped, the adults said the cartridges were over. And they were pressing, shooting. Suddenly our started fall so quickly, straight down, almost sheer. People gasped, killed! But even didn’t have time to cross, he turned out on the very edge of the earth and left the forest! People cried, baptized him and said that the Germans They won’t be able to fight, but ours will be back soon!
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 1 May 2014 09: 21
        +54
        Quote: Z.O.V.
        This employee is by chance not one of those who disappeared near Donetsk?

        Judging by the description of the Russian fighters, he is definitely not one of those who disappeared near Donetsk. He simply would not have climbed into Ukraine for any carriages. For guys from the West, we are all Russian here - in Russia, and Ukraine, and in Belarus, in fact, it is. good
        1. Kunar
          Kunar 18 May 2014 14: 49
          +1
          So they have thirty percent of the same oven ....
      3. Blondy
        Blondy 1 May 2014 10: 30
        +91
        Yes, no, ours, Russian, sits somewhere on a sofa and sucks from a finger.
        Where did you see an American who would admit that they are not the best.
        And the selection of opponents is strange, which means "Asians" and the army of the "Emperor". An American would specifically say that the Vietnamese know how to fight. Vietnamese cadets in 1979 successfully smashed the Chinese regular divisions. And Caucasians and Afghans are two big differences. Chechens with Soviet training - they knew how to fight. And the current only know how to wear suicide belts on women, or remember the Georgians (with American advisers), more precisely, how they skidded.
        1. Blondy
          Blondy 1 May 2014 10: 50
          +12
          And the classification itself is taken from some kind of RPG for computer nerd.
          1. Gloria45
            Gloria45 1 May 2014 11: 33
            +18
            Well, who would doubt it! But somehow everything is correctly and smoothly stated.
            It's really:
            Opinion of one of the Blackwater employees about mercenaries and regular armed formations
            ?
        2. URAL72
          URAL72 1 May 2014 13: 03
          +3
          Yes, no, ours, Russian, sits somewhere on a sofa and sucks from a finger.
          Where did you see an American who would admit that they are not the best.

          I completely agree. But how nice to read it! Destiny brought to Odessa disbat, - in a matter of days, both Russians and non-Russians bark, turning into a dumb, frightened one. But not all. I remember one moron who was given 6 months, there were 3-3,5 somewhere. I injected saliva into my leg, - gas gangrene, cut out the entire muscle (we didn’t hurry with sending to the hospital laughing ), remained disabled. And he himself is an orphanage ... And there were a lot of them.
        3. edge
          edge 2 May 2014 14: 02
          +3
          Quote: Blondy
          Yes, no, ours, Russian, sits somewhere on a sofa and sucks from a finger

          I absolutely agree with you: judging by the style of presentation, you can see a humanitarian education in the style of the USSR, which sometimes reads a translated edition of Sun Tzu.
      4. asar
        asar 1 May 2014 10: 54
        +7
        I thought so too, right!
      5. Ross
        Ross 1 May 2014 13: 42
        +18
        8. African tribes.
        It’s not even interesting to fight them. They shoot randomly, they don’t know about targeted shooting. Often they spar their own legs in the ground.


        Habitual get into his.
        Scatter to the sides, after several casualties or a shot from a tank.
        Rating - meat.

        A new replenishment has arrived. laughing
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 1 May 2014 20: 06
          +7
          M-d ... Africa - it is also in Africa ... well, you understand. And the chimp had to give a grenade.
      6. Shur
        Shur 3 May 2014 23: 56
        +1
        Rather, of those who were found there recently.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 1 May 2014 09: 06
      +15
      Well, why conceal sins ??? As in that film this is our main secret: we are invincible because we have nothing to lose !!!
      All a happy holiday !!! drinks
      1. Echelon
        Echelon 1 May 2014 12: 58
        +5
        Quote: Samaritan
        As in that film this is our main secret: we are invincible because we have nothing to lose !!!
        drinks


        This is the film "DMB".
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 1 May 2014 09: 06
      +13
      http://www.segodnia.ru/content/138570
      A cool topic is the US Liberation Army from occupation by the United States)). Inter brigade?
      1. Zhaman-Urus
        Zhaman-Urus 1 May 2014 10: 15
        +11
        The only, adequate pro-Ukrainian position! Indeed, the South-East is surely lost (Lugansk and Donetsk). The rest of the territories themselves must sweep out Kiev trash and decide for themselves how to live and with whom they are friends. The unequivocal prohibition of all nationalist organizations with criminal responsibility, broad rights for self-government, pro-Ukrainian, and not pro-European and not even pro-Russian foreign policy. Only this will make Ukraine not a territory, but a state.
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 12: 23
          +2
          Yes, it's generally a mess. So at once, and there is no state. Do not understand, who is the most important taxis: the State Department or free. and where are the Slavs?
        2. persei
          persei 2 May 2014 22: 00
          +1
          Quote: Zhaman-Urus
          Indeed, the South-East is probably lost (Lugansk and Donetsk)

          then we must go to a guerrilla war ....
      2. Shur
        Shur 4 May 2014 00: 20
        0
        With one blow, of course he was enough. In reality, this is within the framework of phased actions. Underestimating thugs can be expensive. The main thing is not to let them fade away and then reap the problems in the form of a "democratic government in exile." And the fact that Crimea or the Luhansk region will be politically and economically within the borders of Russia is far from a tragedy for real Vkrayins. Russia is now our common home! We have the same blood in our veins, we have one enemy on our doorstep. We remember and besides political there will be no other borders. May common sense and true patriots prevail.
    4. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 1 May 2014 09: 41
      +11
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      Patriotism is pouring over the edge, but that is how it essentially is.)


      In fact, this is not patriotism - it is Urya-patriotism, from which there is much more harm than good.
    5. Validator
      Validator 1 May 2014 11: 01
      +19
      I wonder where this comrade with Russian crossed, especially with mercenaries?
      1. Echelon
        Echelon 1 May 2014 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: Validator
        I wonder where this friend crossed with the Russians, especially with mercenaries?


        Maybe Vietnam, maybe Afghanistan.
        1. wolf7
          wolf7 1 May 2014 21: 26
          +2
          If you notice, we are talking about Russian mercenaries, the regular units are mentioned in passing. So, apparently, I had to collide somewhere and get a good lesson. fool
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 2 May 2014 12: 05
            0
            Russian mercenaries? Are there any?
            1. raf
              raf 2 May 2014 23: 30
              +2
              Moldova, Yugoslavia are only well-known states, where Russian "mercenaries" showed themselves in full glory.
            2. Shur
              Shur 4 May 2014 00: 24
              0
              But in the foreign legion, in the sense of purely for the idea of ​​serving?
          2. edge
            edge 2 May 2014 14: 10
            0
            Quote: wolf7
            If you notice, we are talking about Russian mercenaries, the regular units are mentioned in passing. So, apparently, I had to collide somewhere and get a good lesson.

            We have mercenarism prohibited by law and therefore there are no mercenaries; there could be military experts or instructors behind the cordon. And this .... couch special forces officer rating himself and earning paper epaulets.
          3. Anatolich
            Anatolich 4 May 2014 01: 57
            +1
            When I served in 201 MSD, I talked with one Mujahideen, a young Tajik of 23-25 ​​years old. He studied at a camp somewhere in Pakistan, so he said that many Russians remained in Afghanistan, and they were valued by Afghan gang leaders. Some say they were even purely Russian intelligence. Our mechanics, BTR drivers and driver mechanics were also valued. Personally, I was twice offered to go to the Pamir to go to some gangster there, since I almost left when I was drunk, but I recovered myself. Money is money, but the head is more expensive. You have to be completely reckless to decide on this, yet you automatically become outlawed.
        2. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 12: 27
          +2
          come to your senses, who is he himself, can’t you see? so he sings honey directly.
        3. Kunar
          Kunar 18 May 2014 14: 54
          +1
          Ili-Angola .....
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 2 May 2014 15: 43
        +2
        Perhaps in Yugoslavia, there were quite a few volunteers there.
    6. shibi
      shibi 1 May 2014 11: 06
      +6
      I am proud of the place of the Russians!
    7. Asadali
      Asadali 1 May 2014 12: 28
      +10
      About Russian I agree on 100%.
      But as for the Caucasians not completely:
      quote "They have only one weak point - they are unable to fight to the last breath, a rare fighter is able to sacrifice himself for the sake of common victory "(c) - this is not true. They themselves wrote that Caucasians are brave, but a person cannot be half brave.
      "They have only one weak point - they are corrupt, but not all. Each has its own price - a historical fact." - it's true.
      I wrote this not about all Caucasians, namely about Dagestanis, but more specifically, about my nation - Avars.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 2 May 2014 20: 32
        +2
        Quote: Asadali
        About Russian I agree on 100%.
        But as for the Caucasians, not completely ...

        I read about the actions of Soviet soldiers of different nationalities in the Second World War: the most powerful units were from the Slavs (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians) - they were strong both in defense and in attack, the Armenians were almost as good, the Georgians were good in the offensive but were prone to retreat on the defensive, I don’t remember the rest, but, most importantly, in mixed units in which there were enough Slavs, soldiers of all nationalities (even foreigners, at the end of the war it happened) acted on a par with them.
        1. GREAT RUSSIA
          GREAT RUSSIA 3 May 2014 10: 32
          0
          Quote: PENZYAC
          I read about the actions of Soviet soldiers of different nationalities in the Second World War: the most powerful units were from the Slavs (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians) - they were strong both in defense and in attack, the Armenians were almost as good, the Georgians were good in the offensive but were prone to retreat on the defensive, I don’t remember the rest, but, most importantly, in mixed units in which there were enough Slavs, soldiers of all nationalities (even foreigners, at the end of the war it happened) acted on a par with them.

          Good afternoon, please don’t tell me the link where they can evaluate the actions of the representatives of the nations of the North Caucasus in the battle. Everything is clear with the Russians, they’ll let them go to pieces. But I also wanted to find out something about my fellow countrymen, if I don’t complicate it, I’m looking for it myself too. very grateful.
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 May 2014 14: 01
      +11
      I read it and laughed heartily for a long time ... the article is written in a humorous form, but it contains a lot of completely truthful things ... it is especially interesting about amerovsky regulars and mercenaries, well, what biting dogs, what dogs of war? American warriors remind me of 13 year olds who got to their father's machine gun ... but as soon as it flies in the neck, they cry and piss in diapers ... as for the description of the "Russians", then everything is quite right ...
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox 2 May 2014 08: 50
        +5
        This article was written by a computer who played, it’s not understood whether that is a child who fought only on a computer.
      2. edge
        edge 2 May 2014 14: 17
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        I read it and laughed heartily for a long time ... the article is written in a humorous form, but it contains a lot of completely truthful things ... it is especially interesting about amerovsky regulars and mercenaries, well, what biting dogs, what dogs of war? American warriors remind me of 13 year olds who got to their father's machine gun ... but as soon as it flies in the neck, they cry and piss in diapers ... as for the description of the "Russians", then everything is quite right ...

        The same thing about Afro was told to us by teachers at the school, the engineering equipment of positions for black ends with pulling the tent from the sun.
    9. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 11: 46
      +1
      and angry ...
    10. Vesnik
      Vesnik 3 May 2014 02: 09
      +1
      Liked!!
      If the Russians are retreating, it means they are running after the cartridges.
      smile
    11. Vanko
      Vanko 3 May 2014 22: 27
      +6
      I want to add a little to the definition of Russian.
      Our entire mentality rests on two pillars: Pohren and Avos.
      If he survived the first battle, Avos will not be killed further.
      If Avos has already exhausted himself, then Fuck comes. Yes, I will die. And Fuck. The main thing is to take more adversaries with you, so that it is easier for others.
    12. Hs487
      Hs487 13 May 2014 13: 31
      0
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      Patriotism is pouring over the edge

      And what's wrong with that, especially since
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      so it essentially is
      good
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 1 May 2014 08: 25
    +26
    Therefore, Bismarck also warned that it’s like fighting a Russian death soldier
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 1 May 2014 09: 26
      +8
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Therefore, Bismarck also warned that it’s like fighting a Russian death

      Not like death - this is death itself laughing
      1. edge
        edge 2 May 2014 14: 21
        0
        Quote: Andrey57
        Not like death - this is death itself

        I didn’t notice that the Germans, French, Poles, Britons, Romanians, Swedes, etc. became extinct, on the contrary, they thrive and grin. Yes, and they are also going to walk along the trodden paths in return.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 2 May 2014 20: 43
          0
          Quote: hert
          Quote: Andrey57
          Not like death - this is death itself

          I didn’t notice that the Germans, French, Poles, Britons, Romanians, Swedes, etc. became extinct, on the contrary, they thrive and grin. Yes, and they are also going to walk along the trodden paths in return.

          They read the wrong books and watch the wrong movies, and they forgot the covenants of their fathers, nothing, science is easier to understand through their own skins, and then their memory is stronger.
          Banderlogs will be the first in this line of mind. Let's see what kind of heroes they are, damn it.
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 25 January 2015 13: 50
            0
            [i] ["i] along the trodden tracks. [/ i]" [/ i]
            ... and abandoned cemeteries.
    2. cesar65
      cesar65 2 May 2014 20: 16
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Therefore, Bismarck also warned that it’s like fighting a Russian death soldier

      And the words are attributed to him: “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not at all. ”
  3. Name
    Name 1 May 2014 08: 25
    +18
    But it’s nice, damn it, what is stated about RUSSIAN - WARRIORS!
    1. clidon
      clidon 1 May 2014 08: 53
      +30
      Apparently everything was laid out by ours. There are no references to the source, it is not clear where the Blackwater employee (and in fact Academi has long been in contact), well, faced directly with all the military, and even in battle. In this case, clearly consistent with the stereotypes of Runet.
      Most likely this is a banal patriotic work.
      1. jura61
        jura61 1 May 2014 09: 12
        +5
        Perhaps this is 2008, there are both Caucasians and Russians there is something to compare.
      2. sub307
        sub307 1 May 2014 09: 39
        +6
        Yes, much like that.
      3. The comment was deleted.
    2. edge
      edge 2 May 2014 14: 23
      +2
      Quote: name
      But it’s nice to damn what is stated about the RUSSIAN, - WARRIORS

      no English hoopoe will ever say that ....
  4. Sreben
    Sreben 1 May 2014 08: 26
    +15
    Already the tears came from the first place!
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 1 May 2014 10: 27
      +12
      Quote: Sreben
      Already the tears came from the first place!

      good
      and I also remembered the anecdote about the Russian construction battalion "... who are generally animals, they don't even give them weapons ..." smile
      all a happy holiday! drinks
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 2 May 2014 11: 12
        +1
        Quote: self-propelled
        Already the tears have come from the first place

        Very strange rating. what kind of employee is this? where he had the opportunity to observe all the fighters of different nationalities described in the ranking? Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Somalia?
        According to the rating itself, in general, I think everything is right. About Russians, even mercenaries, rightly. After all, most of the Russian mercenaries clearly served in the ranks of the SA / Army of the Russian Federation. and most probably the hot spots have passed. And of course, we must not forget the valiant military past of Russia of different historical eras.
        1. daemon
          daemon 2 May 2014 19: 05
          +4
          Quote: bazilio
          Very strange rating. what kind of employee is this? where he had the opportunity to observe all the fighters of different nationalities described in the ranking? Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Somalia?


          What is incomprehensible in Call of Duty, Batell field and other shooters !! And this expert looks something like this ..
  5. mamont5
    mamont5 1 May 2014 08: 26
    +22
    I wonder why European soldiers are not in the ranking? Of course, in different countries they are different, but still.
    1. clidon
      clidon 1 May 2014 08: 53
      +29
      Because the student who wrote this did not particularly bother with subtleties. )
    2. atalef
      atalef 1 May 2014 08: 55
      +11
      Quote: mamont5
      I wonder why European soldiers are not in the ranking? Of course, in different countries they are different, but still


      The whole article - rating - bullshit. laughing
      1. Gronsky
        Gronsky 1 May 2014 09: 31
        +17
        Quote: atalef
        The whole article - rating - bullshit.

        Dear, well, is it really unclear to you with your natural insight that this article is an example of a light banter. wink Or were you upset that the author forgot to mention the gallant Jewish warriors, even if in joke material?
        In general, in every joke, there is only a fraction of a joke, and if you honestly admit, all the arguments and statements given in the "rating" will turn out to be pure truth. But this is, in all honesty, and with a certain correction for generalization. repeat
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 12: 32
          +1
          Jewish patriotic mercenaries?
      2. Normal
        Normal 1 May 2014 09: 39
        +11
        Quote: atalef
        The whole article - rating - bullshit.


        Maybe...
        Perhaps this is just your opinion.

        Perhaps ... the article is a balm for my soul, tormented by doubts.

        But in general ... This is no worse than the old Soviet political propaganda in the style of "We are the best because we are Soviet."
        In any case, at least some arguments are given.
        And self-confidence and ability is a necessary quality. Without it, it is a matter of seams.
      3. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 1 May 2014 10: 32
        +3
        you too but Jewish
    3. BOB48
      BOB48 1 May 2014 21: 53
      0
      Jewish too!
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 3 May 2014 16: 37
        +1
        it doesn’t matter who you are by nationality, the strength of the one behind whom is true ... but the strength of mind is sewn, they say the size of the homeland ... so the first naturally Russian
  6. Professor
    Professor 1 May 2014 08: 26
    +6
    Link to the site "political instructor" ... Links to the original could not be found. sad
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 1 May 2014 08: 45
      +12
      I honestly spent time on Google, but did not find the English-language original. request Perhaps because he was not there.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 12: 37
        0
        the commissar is a synonym for him, even from the war of the north with the south. they invented it then.
  7. Generalissimus
    Generalissimus 1 May 2014 08: 28
    +36
    Smiled. =)
    It is, of course, our fighters are the best - AND HOW OTHERWISE?
    But such outright fakes - the fruit of couch political instructors - are somehow ashamed to read.

    They would also name the article - "Rating from the most secret agent of the most secret platoon of the Delta squadron," - our undemanding public would not be overwhelmed with enthusiasm.
    1. saag
      saag 1 May 2014 08: 52
      +7
      Quote: Generalissimus
      it’s even a shame to read.

      Yes, some kind of molasses, in the last part :-)
      1. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 1 May 2014 09: 38
        +9
        Quote: saag
        Yes, some kind of molasses, in the last part :-)


        but it is possible that someone such words and relaxed. But the fighter knows - relaxed and immediately wait for trouble.
    2. Gato
      Gato 1 May 2014 09: 43
      +6
      the fruit of sofa political instructors

      laughing
      Yes, the sofa has a compilation of ratings.
      Although, regarding the last places in this rating, I agree.
  8. major071
    major071 1 May 2014 08: 29
    +9
    Starting to read the article, for some reason I thought that American regulars would be put in first place, and ours in second. After all, all American is "the best" in their opinion. But I was pleasantly surprised, the truth cannot be hidden, and the fifth place of the American "warriors", as they say, is on the case. Indeed, they prefer contactless wars.
  9. Sterlya
    Sterlya 1 May 2014 08: 29
    +5
    several times the West opposed Russia. and always Russia came there from where they performed. I don’t know who wrote in reality, but interesting. laughed
  10. alex-cn
    alex-cn 1 May 2014 08: 31
    +22
    The opinion of a retired front-line colonel "I did not think (or did not expect, the conversation was about 10 years ago) that our jeans boys would be able to fight like this." Apparently, we have something in our blood, and when necessary, it wakes up ... God, so that it was needed less often.
  11. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 1 May 2014 08: 31
    +3
    Is this one of the twenty missing? He quickly accepted our faith! lol
  12. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 1 May 2014 08: 33
    +12
    The rating is clearly fictitious, but how everything is precisely noticed.
  13. Dezinto
    Dezinto 1 May 2014 08: 34
    +15
    “The Russians, even the mercenaries, are not capable of retreating.
    And if they retreat, they can be sure they are just running for the cartridges. good
    All of the above applies to the army, who are more or less fired.
    However, for this, in most cases, a single clash is sufficient ... "

    To print and paste in the parliament of Ukraine and on the forehead Turchinov personally with Tymoshenko stick!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 2 May 2014 20: 52
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      “The Russians, even the mercenaries, are not capable of retreating.
      And if they retreat, they can be sure they are just running for the cartridges. good
      ...
      To print and paste in the parliament of Ukraine and on the forehead Turchinov personally with Tymoshenko stick!

      And Yarosh and Nalivaychenko to nail on the foreheads with hundreds of nails. smile
  14. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 1 May 2014 08: 36
    +2
    If this is not a joke, but an expert’s assessment, then it’s very flattering!)))
  15. Snoop
    Snoop 1 May 2014 08: 37
    +11
    Of course, our idea is to take first prize places, but the campaign is fake. Read the works of all Western generals, yes, they pay tribute to self-sacrifice, perseverance, but they all write as one that the Russians cannot act alone, they say there is no initiative, and they always believed that the western fighter is higher because he is better educated, etc. d. They explain our victory over the Germans by covering up corpses. They always had chauvinism in relation to our country. Since those times when we were called - wild Muscovy.
    On the other hand, it’s better for us, underestimating the enemy always smells like a bad smell)))
    1. Orik
      Orik 1 May 2014 08: 44
      +6
      Well, the Germans had to explain how they spent all their achievements on the WF.
    2. max702
      max702 1 May 2014 09: 44
      +11
      “Even if we lose the war in reality, we must win it on paper”

      Hendrick Ferten. Dutch SS man
      Here is the answer ..
    3. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst 1 May 2014 10: 13
      +7
      Well, not all Germans are so unambiguous. Melentin, for example, enthusiastically described the night attacks of the Russians, which the Germans feared like plague. From the first days, Halder described in his diaries about the self-sacrifice of the Russians, unstoppable tanks, "tank fear", the power of Russian artillery, etc. Guderian, in the tanks, was crying about the Russian treachery.
      This is if the German generals dig up, and if you delve into the memories of lieutenants and Hauptmanns, then the picture there for the Germans is even sadder.
      1. cesar65
        cesar65 2 May 2014 20: 23
        0
        Quote: Baloo_bst
        Guderian in tanks ahead cried about the treachery of the Russians.

        Apparently forgot Bismarck’s words: “Never fight with Russians. They will respond to each of your military tricks with unpredictable stupidity. ”
    4. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 12: 43
      0
      the secret fighters of Ivan the Terrible would have shown their cousin mother to these generals by mothers if they hadn’t sunbathed on their hind legs?
  16. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 1 May 2014 08: 37
    +11
    And we just need to evaluate ourselves, and then bring to this rating, I RUSSIAN!
  17. shelva
    shelva 1 May 2014 08: 39
    +10
    Such conclusions are not unfounded - they have historical evidence.
  18. navigator1997
    navigator1997 1 May 2014 08: 40
    +10
    Nice to read. But when the enemy praises you, it's worth considering ...
  19. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 1 May 2014 08: 41
    +6
    Russians are a nation of warriors and it doesn’t matter if you are a military or civilian, the rage is boiling inside and HERE is an invincible warrior who is no longer clinging to life and is ready to complete the task and die.
  20. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 1 May 2014 08: 42
    +4
    The concepts of tactics and strategy for them are as far away as the charms of Samantha Fox to the average homosexual from the banks of the Senna.

    Well, you read and think - this is not a translation, this is a direct speech. the foreigner will not say that. And if all the same these are the words of a real person - then he’s just wrong - let him think about the correlation of the strength of spirit of the locals - who has a family and a house behind him, and visiting mercenaries - stupidly for grandmas
  21. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 1 May 2014 08: 43
    +15
    Even if this is not a fake opinion, SPECIALS which they dragged FOR BABY to kill PEACEFUL citizens, is not an indicator!
    And as for our soldiers, I saw everything! BUT ALWAYS, IN THE MOST INHUMAN CONDITIONS, the majority remained combat-ready! Sleeping in the mud in a tent 20k with two platoons without an oven is easy! entered-hello!
  22. Alejandro
    Alejandro 1 May 2014 08: 43
    +9
    Where are the Germans? Did the Germans unlearn it all in half a century?
    1. blizart
      blizart 1 May 2014 09: 11
      +12
      The Englishman is self-confident on the grounds that he is a citizen of the most comfortable state in the world, and therefore, as an Englishman, he always knows what he needs to do and knows that everything he does as an Englishman is undoubtedly good. The Italian is self-confident because he is excited and easily forgets himself and others. Russian is self-confident precisely because he knows nothing and does not want to know, because he does not believe that it is possible to know anything. The German is self-confident worse than everyone, and harder than everyone, and more disgusting than everyone, because he imagines that he knows the truth, a science that he himself invented, but which for him is absolute truth. L.N. Tolstoy
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 1 May 2014 16: 24
      +6
      Quote: Alejandro
      Where are the Germans? Did the Germans unlearn it all in half a century?

      Something you do not succeed in arithmetic. 1945 years have passed since 69, and you are "half a century". Those Germans who fought or at least remember their childhood with bombings and food ration cards have long been retired, and the next generation from childhood was taught NOT to fight, because the Russians completely discouraged their parents from fighting. And this is good, because the Germans, as a rule, do everything for what they bet with high quality. So it's better to collect cars.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 May 2014 17: 38
        +6
        it is strange that the Germans flew three times at the snot from the Rus and only one Bismarck realized that there was no need to fight with Russia, but friendship ...
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 2 May 2014 13: 02
          0
          apparently it’s a long time coming ... and more than-thrice. Even their kumsomolia in the GDR considered ours as schweins. At banquets of perd.la. so that the schweins sniffed. and they are these schweins, in German, too, no boom ...
      2. Zaslavsky-S
        Zaslavsky-S 2 May 2014 08: 45
        +2
        Current Germans hang around on gamepads.
  23. Giant thought
    Giant thought 1 May 2014 08: 45
    +5
    For Russians, this is laid down at the level of genetics, perhaps someday scientists will single out this gene for the courage of Russian soldiers. Since it is already inherent in us from birth, the ability to defend the Homeland is only being polished in the army.
    1. clidon
      clidon 1 May 2014 08: 54
      -2
      I ask: what country soldiers in the 20th century surrendered the most on the battlefield?
      1. Free Island
        Free Island 1 May 2014 09: 11
        +5
        so what ???
        1. Gato
          Gato 1 May 2014 10: 07
          +10
          Quote: Free Island
          so what?

          Obviously, a colleague of clidon hints at the USSR 1941-1942. It seems to me that this is not entirely correct. According to German data, it seems that almost half of the Red Army surrendered. And the reasons are simple:
          - unbridled fantasy and postscripts of German generals;
          - capture of those who didn’t have time to arm themselves and even to wear uniforms of mobilized reservists;
          - the entire male population of the occupied territories of military age was considered as prisoners of war (for the sake of fairness - ours had the same practice in 1944-1945 in Germany).
          Well, you can still search for data on the number of German, Japanese and other prisoners of war who were in the USSR after 1945. The numbers are impressive.
          1. clidon
            clidon 1 May 2014 12: 14
            -3
            I am talking about the entire 20th century, where we lost almost 5,5-7 million surrendered soldiers on the battlefields. Moreover, according to our own data.
            - Russian-Japanese war - 74 thousand
            - World War I - 2,1 - 3,5 million people
            - The Great Patriotic War - 3,4 - 4,6 million people (plus 500 thousand of those same conscripts).
            1. serega.fedotov
              serega.fedotov 1 May 2014 15: 45
              +4
              Quote: clidon
              I am talking about the entire 20th century, where we lost almost 5,5-7 million surrendered soldiers on the battlefields. Moreover, according to our own data.
              - Russian-Japanese war - 74 thousand
              - World War I - 2,1 - 3,5 million people
              - The Great Patriotic War - 3,4 - 4,6 million people (plus 500 thousand of those same conscripts).

              For an accurate count, you need to keep in mind how much Russia fought in the 20th century! And count all the prisoners who were in captivity with us! Without forgetting, for example, Romanians, Poles, Hungarians, French, Bulgarians and others who were first taken, then released, after liberation their countries! I met numbers in 10-11 million! Unfortunately, political correctness was in the USSR, the data on the "BROTHER" peoples were well cleaned up!
              And vobshe "there is a lie, there is a blatant lie, and there is statistics!" And comparing, for example, the prisoners of war of the USSR and the prisoners of war Franzia, we get numbers that have nothing to do with reality!
              1. clidon
                clidon 1 May 2014 17: 16
                0
                Russia fought in the 20th century, decently, however, like all great powers. And I am by no means going to humiliate the Russian soldier - our army fought bravely. However, before boasting about some kind of superpowers, ascribing absolute qualities to oneself, one must remember about these millions who stood with their hands up. Moreover, in the vast majority of cases, the reasons for such massive "surrenders" were not in the plane of the personal qualities of the soldiers, but the strategic mistakes of the political and military leadership.
                The very fact that we lost a lot of prisoners in two world wars, I can not be seriously questioned. Of course, the Germans lied, of course, not all the prisoners were army soldiers (they took prisoners and policeman and just administration officials), but I quite believe the archives of our Ministry of Defense, which talk about 4559 thousand prisoners of war.
                1. Anatolich
                  Anatolich 4 May 2014 02: 11
                  0
                  A lot of Russian prisoners were taken in the first days and months of the war, well, you can say even in the first year. There was not enough weapons, the factor of surprise of the attack played, if the unit lost the commander, then they could surrender to the whole unit, then the Nazis literally in the first months of the war went almost to Moscow demoralized many soldiers and even commanders. After the Nazis were driven away, there were much fewer prisoners.
        2. rkkasa xnumx
          rkkasa xnumx 1 May 2014 10: 45
          +1
          clidon RU Today, 08:54 ↑
          I ask: what country soldiers in the 20th century surrendered the most on the battlefield?
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          Free Island (1) RU Today, 09:11 ↑
          so what ???

          Here is the first world data:

          Germany - 2 million dead; 4 million wounded; prisoners 1 million - on one prisoner 2 killed and 4 wounded

          Great Britain - 0,7 million dead; 1,6 million wounded; prisoners of 0,17 million - to capture 1 English you need 4 to kill and injure almost 10

          Austria-Hungary - killed 1,5 million; wounded 2,6 million; prisoners 2,2 million - to take 1 Austrian prisoner you need to kill 0,7 and injure 1,2

          Russia - 1,6 million dead; 3,7 million wounded; prisoners of 3,3 million - to capture 1 Russian you need to kill 0,5 and injure 1,1

          Compare by the way how much the resistance of soldiers and officers in the USSR has grown in comparison with the Republic of Ingushetia, (Krivosheev’s data):

          8,6 million killed; 22 million wounded; 4,5 million prisoners - that is, in order to capture one Soviet soldier it was necessary to kill 1,9 and injure almost 5.
          1. Capyar 48315
            Capyar 48315 1 May 2014 14: 32
            +3
            you are such a math, sorry, of course, shove it into the opera, to begin with, give the losses,% of the drafted, the area of ​​the countries covered by the war,% ratio of drafted, etc., etc.
            1. rkkasa xnumx
              rkkasa xnumx 1 May 2014 14: 54
              0
              Quote: CapYar 48315
              you are such a math, sorry, of course, stick in


              Are you ... cancer?
              1. Rider
                Rider 1 May 2014 22: 19
                +4
                Quote: rkkasa 81
                Are you ... cancer?

                vapcheto, he says absolutely right things.
                since, if we were already talking about absolute numbers, then we should give the numbers of the contingent called up, and its percentage of the country's population.

                and it turns out that the Belgian army, numbering by the beginning of 2 MV 500 000 people, lost almost ALL of its soldiers as prisoners, but it fought better than the USSR because there were several times more Russians in captivity.

                it is sometimes necessary to think about what is written before scolding indiscriminately.
            2. Penzyac
              Penzyac 2 May 2014 21: 19
              +1
              Quote: KapYar 48315
              you are such a math, sorry, of course, shove it into the opera, to begin with, give the losses,% of the drafted, the area of ​​the countries covered by the war,% ratio of drafted, etc., etc.

              And even statistics do not take into account how soldiers were captured: surrendered with weapons and ammunition or captured without weapons (or ammunition), or in a helpless state.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 3 May 2014 23: 45
            -1
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Here is the first world data:

            I will explain to you what your data says.
            This suggests that the Russians are stronger, tenacious and hardy. When a Chinese died on the battlefield from fear, a European died on the battlefield from wounds, the Russian survived despite the wounds, and died already in captivity without proper care (well, we know how Western scum treats prisoners). And those Russians whom you added to the prisoners should have been considered dead, for they received their wounds in battle.
            Let me draw your attention to the fact that of all captured Russians in German captivity, two-thirds died, and Germans in Russian-one-third.
      2. Rider
        Rider 1 May 2014 11: 13
        +13
        Quote: clidon
        I ask: what country soldiers in the 20th century surrendered the most on the battlefield?

        I will answer that way - EUROPEAN.
        they have whole countries surrendered there, and many WITHOUT BATTLE.
        1. clidon
          clidon 1 May 2014 12: 15
          -5
          I was talking about quantity. The reasons for the surrender of "countries" may be different.
          1. Rider
            Rider 1 May 2014 13: 18
            +4
            Quote: clidon
            I talked about quantity

            Duc and I'm talking about quantity.
            several TENS MILLIONS, a bit more than 3,5 to 5,5 (according to various estimates).

            and the reasons for the surrender of countries may indeed be different.
            from "we are too small to defend our homeland, but we love it too much to put up with it" (Yugoslavia) to "and we are fed well under the German" (almost the rest of Europe)
            1. clidon
              clidon 1 May 2014 17: 18
              +1
              It is one thing when the country's army surrenders by decision of the leadership. Anyway, what kind of soldier are you, anyway, what kind of commander - the decision is accepted - we lost and surrender. And the reasons for the surrender can be many.
              1. Rider
                Rider 1 May 2014 18: 27
                +5
                Quote: clidon
                It is one thing when the country's army surrenders by decision of the leadership.

                only this verbiage is not necessary.
                then HOW the peoples REALLY resisted the occupation can be recognized by the example of the partisan movement.
                we will take Belarusian partisans for polarity - 10
                and their complete absence in the Czech Republic - 0.
                so by country
                Denmark Holland Netherlands and pr Luxembourg - ZHIIIIIRNY ZERO
                Norway - about one unit.
                France - barely barely in two.
                Poland - a little over 3
                Yugoslavia is SEVEN, or even EIGHT.
                Well, the occupied territories of the USSR
                from 6 (Baltic States, Moldova) to 9-10 (RSFSR, Belarus)

                THEREFORE, it is necessary to protect the homeland, and not by order.
                hence the conclusion, the Caucasians and the Germans lived well.
                and therefore, in the "prisoners" column, you can safely write down ALL the population of these countries.

                try not to write nonsense anymore, or at least justify it better.
                1. clidon
                  clidon 1 May 2014 18: 41
                  -1
                  I did not write anything about resistance to the occupation. You apparently don’t understand or pretend that you don’t understand a simple truth - for such resistance you need not only courage, but also banal motivation. From a fresh example of the Crimea - are there cowards who could not repel the intervention of a foreign army? There are zero partisan detachments - on the contrary, everyone is happy and votes for. So is Belgium, Holland - the war with the Germans was not a matter of survival for them. On the contrary, many were in favor or they did not care.
                  Of course, a soldier on the battlefield is also subject to the "influence of the moment," but Russia, both in the first and in the second world won, did not wage war with opponents close in spirit, faith and ideology.
                  1. Rider
                    Rider 1 May 2014 22: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: clidon
                    I did not write anything about resistance to the occupation. You apparently don’t understand or pretend that you don’t understand the simple truth - for such resistance you need not only courage, but also banal motivation.

                    I apparently really do not understand something.
                    your head post, assured that the Russians surrendered the most captives.
                    but wars won

                    below you write about entire nations with a lack of motivation (and isn’t it easier to write WISHES TO PROTECT A HOMELAND?)

                    so who are the worst warriors?
                    those who, in terribly unfavorable conditions, took the fight, losing their comrades, retreating, getting surrounded, left the cauldrons or continued to fight in the partisans and eventually ended the war by sticking the flag into the ruins of the enemy capital.

                    or those who tied up their tails, sat in the occupation until liberation, justifying themselves by the fact that "well, after all, we were defeated, the government ordered to lay down their arms"

                    figure out your "motivation"
                    and then you have some innocent, but not very large.
                    others fled in captivity in droves but wars won.


                    then it will come to you that the final figures of losses, and the outcome of the war are not quite equal values.
                    1. clidon
                      clidon 1 May 2014 22: 43
                      0
                      I apparently really do not understand something.
                      your head post, assured that the Russians surrendered the most, but wars won

                      Of course, and as soon as the motivation was lost, we immediately lost in the most trifling campaign like the first Chechen one, where the GRU special forces unit of fifty could easily surrender. These are the bravest soldiers who went to the partisans and generally won the war.
                      Therefore, I write that even with the highest motivation, millions of our compatriots raised their hands up. And yes, they won as a result of the war (not all of course - we lost the Russian-Japanese and World War I).
                      1. Rider
                        Rider 2 May 2014 11: 06
                        +5
                        Quote: clidon
                        as soon as motivation was lost, we immediately lost in the most trifling campaign like the first Chechen

                        what understanding of history and strategy can be discussed, if you call 1 Chechen frivolous campaign ?
                        and the war in Afghanistan you do not want to call a trifle?
                        Quote: clidon
                        Therefore, I write that even with the highest motivation, millions of our compatriots raised their hands up.

                        you write (sorry) nonsense.
                        you need to take into account the time of capture, since 60% of prisoners go to the first most difficult months of the war.
                        if in 41 fighters left without cartridges, food and commanders could raise their hands.
                        then at 42 near Stalingrad - stood to death.
                        the same way, by the way, it was in 95, after the capture of the city when the soldiers saw what was waiting for them in captivity, those wishing to raise their hands sharply decreased.

                        since you decided to show off your knowledge of numbers, then it was worth making a gradation by country, the drafted contingent and the percentage of prisoners.

                        otherwise it turns out that the Russian soldiers were captured most of all - that means they fought poorly and were poorly (vile concept) motivated.

                        it was necessary to do so: in the USSR, 35 million people were called up for military service
                        was captured (to the maximum) - 5,5 million people.
                        total percentage - 16 (note that this is the army winner)
                        Germany: at least 25 million people called up
                        according to the results of surrender, at least 4 million people became prisoners
                        the total percentage is the same 16 (do not forget that they purged the war)
                        France: more than 2 MILLION people in a company of 40 g completely broken surrendered
                        total percentage (minus killed) 95.
                        Belgium: more than 500 people captured almost 000%
                        the army blew the war.

                        so we see that it was captured
                        500 Belgians
                        1,8 Million French
                        4 MILLION Germans
                        5,5 million Russians

                        following your logic, the Belgians fought better than anyone else, since they were the least captured.

                        well, everything is worse - the Russians, because they are "unmotivated"


                        learn to correctly analyze, then there will be no problems with logic.
                      2. clidon
                        clidon 2 May 2014 12: 42
                        -5
                        What understanding of history and strategy can be discussed if you call the 1 Chechen campaign a trifle?

                        Compared with the Great Patriotic War and the First World War, this is undoubtedly an insignificant and relatively sluggish military campaign.

                        you need to take into account the time of capture, since 60% of prisoners go to the first most difficult months of the war.
                        if in 41 fighters left without cartridges, food and commanders could raise their hands.

                        Of course, our servicemen surrendered not in favorable conditions. Which is actually not surprising.
                        I was not going to compare, you can read my initial message above - "the best fighters in the world" surrendered in millions. Moreover, on the battlefield and with the maximum motivation of the war for survival. And this is including the consequences of hating.
                      3. Rider
                        Rider 2 May 2014 15: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: clidon
                        Compared to World War II and World War I

                        Compared to nuclear war, the destruction (God forbid, of course) of your family is also not a great loss.
                        for me, let's say.
                        but for you?

                        do not measure everything in numbers.
                        Quote: clidon
                        I was not going to compare, you can read my initial message above - "the best fighters in the world" surrendered in millions.

                        can you give examples of the surrender of MILLIONOV ONE TIME AND ONE TIME?
                        do not you think that you are already going beyond the assumptions, and simply indiscriminately write down all defeated prisoners and alarmists?
                        under absolutely identical circumstances, the Europeans and the Germans themselves and the Japanese themselves also surrendered en masse.

                        Once again I repeat the CASE, NOT IN FIGURES, but IN RESULT.
                        when you understand this, then you can solve the dilemma of someone who is thicker and longer.
                        Quote: clidon
                        And this is including the consequences of hatred.

                        understand a simple thing, in the summer of 41g we ran into the BEST ARMY OF THIS TIME IN THE CONTINENT.
                        the result of a collision with her FOR ALL WITHOUT EXCLUSION OF ARMIES was exactly the same.
                        if the French army was 10 million, the result would not have changed much.
                        there would be 8-9 MILLION prisoners.
                        Well, they did not have such an opportunity, (and even time) and the result is so "modest".
                      4. clidon
                        clidon 2 May 2014 18: 53
                        -2
                        Rider
                        do not measure everything in numbers.

                        But here we are talking about numbers. At least they cause such a reaction ..
                        But I then start from an article that says:
                        And still, that it was the last cartridge, they will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easily! Any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy ...

                        And on the other hand, there should be a long theorizing about the fact that they say yes, we surrendered in large and small conflicts, but we are no worse than the rest. This is a big difference.

                        do not you think that you are already going beyond the assumptions, and simply indiscriminately write down all defeated prisoners and alarmists?

                        By the way, I did not write that all this is defeatists and alarmists. These are just people who did not see another way out. And if they ran out of ammunition, then they do not:
                        And if they retreat, they can be sure they are just running for the cartridges.

                        And give up. Although not everything is of course at will, many by order, but this business does not change the overall picture.

                        under absolutely identical circumstances, the Europeans and the Germans themselves and the Japanese themselves also surrendered en masse.

                        And I don’t argue. A good soldier, a soldier who can win, is well motivated, armed and fed, and not some sort of superfighter of a certain nationality, as the article assures us. Although of course there are nuances - the same Japanese gave up much worse. Moreover, they were not taken prisoner for a long time - it was dangerous.
                      5. Rider
                        Rider 2 May 2014 19: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: clidon
                        But here we are talking about numbers.

                        it’s you here about the numbers, it’s they that they will freeze your eyes.
                        and not only they are important.
                        if you count the number of tanks and planes lost, then we will have more than the enemy.
                        so it turns out the enemy is better at fighting?
                        but the results of the war show something else.

                        I don’t discuss the article, it was clear to me that in this presentation, this is an invention of a couch strategist.
                        Quote: clidon
                        By the way, I did not write that all this is defeatists and alarmists.

                        but it turned out just like that.
                        "unmotivated" and that's it, and the legs to the top.
                        Quote: clidon
                        And I don’t argue. A good soldier, a soldier who can win, is well motivated, armed and fed, and not some sort of superfighter of a certain nationality, as the article assures us.

                        no, you argue.
                        you just said that a well-armed, trained and fed fighter wins wars.
                        however the story testifies to
                        the one that well armed trained and fed The US Army was not able to confront the barely armed partisans in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
                        and before that, the Frenchman screwed up in the same Vietnam and Algeria.
                        that again "motivation" has failed?
                        How do you assess the "motivation" in the Kwantung army?
                        after all, they also at first fought like hell.
                        however, faced with the strongest army on the continent (1945 sample) and as a result hundreds of thousands of prisoners.
                        (it would be more the result would remain the same)

                        I repeat again, not everything is measured by numbers.
                        there are simply peoples who dare to fight (and most importantly win) in any circumstances.
                        there are those who can fight only after preparation
                        but there are those to whom any preparation is not good.
                      6. clidon
                        clidon 2 May 2014 20: 29
                        -1
                        Rider
                        it’s you here about the numbers, it’s they that they will freeze your eyes.

                        And they are very impressive. At least in percentage, at least how. Millions of surrendered regular army soldiers are no joke.

                        if you count the number of tanks and planes lost, then we will have more than the enemy.
                        so it turns out the enemy is better at fighting?

                        Yes, it does. The enemy fought better, but there were more of us, we had more resources and forces.

                        but it turned out just like that.
                        "unmotivated" and that's it, and the legs to the top.

                        Motivation is only one of the components. And I gave you examples - a soldier must understand for what is dying.

                        the one that the well-armed, trained and nourished U.S. Army was unable to counter the barely armed partisans in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

                        She was not just able to resist them, she was so fucking them there that the losses of the very Vietnamese and Afghans (who by the way didn’t fight with arrows and bows) were simply millions. But there is a difference of forces and political decisions. Moreover, it was weak motivation that ultimately affected the same Americans.

                        I repeat again, not everything is measured by numbers.
                        there are simply peoples who dare to fight (and most importantly win) in any circumstances.

                        Yes, numbers are not the only indicator. But one of those who should give reason to think twice about hot heads. Who believe that the more you praise yourself, the steeper the result.
                      7. Rider
                        Rider 2 May 2014 20: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: clidon
                        And they are very impressive.

                        they are impressive for those who boil down to debit and credit.
                        about the ratio of% of prisoners to the outcome of the war I will not repeat, if it does not reach you three times, the fourth will not help
                        Quote: clidon
                        Yes, it does. The enemy fought better, but there were more of us, we had more resources and forces.

                        and (most importantly) the desire to fight and win.
                        the United States had more resources compared to Vietnam. however, it did not grow together.
                        good food and weapons did not help them.
                        Quote: clidon
                        She not only was able to resist them, she so fucked them there

                        before that I was dumbfounded that my legs barely blew away.
                        and right now, the same Taliban are ready to give up the power just to "save face" and leave beautifully.
                        here again go out the ratio of numbers and the end result are very different things
                        but you apparently pinned on them.
                        in your opinion - the one who thrashed more is the hero.
                        Quote: clidon
                        But one of those who should give reason to think twice about hot heads.

                        and this is a call not to go to war with bare hands?
                        or are you agitating me?
                        I tell you again (in which already?)
                        That this article is fake and is not subject to discussion.
                        in this case, I dissect your delusion about "a lot of prisoners - fought sucks - bad fighters"
                      8. Setrac
                        Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: clidon
                        Yes, it does. The enemy fought better, but there were more of us, we had more resources and forces.

                        The enemy fought WORSE. We were gone, we had fewer resources. I draw your attention to the fact that at the beginning of the war, 5.5 million Wehrmacht soldiers and allies came together in battle on the western border of the USSR against 3.2 million soldiers of the Red Army. Moreover, the Third Reich, with satellites and European allies, exceeded the USSR in population by two times, and in industrial potential - four times.
                        Actually, here is the price of all your reasoning - banal ignorance.
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 3 May 2014 23: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Rider
                  if the French army was 10 million, the result would not have changed much.
                  there would be 8-9 MILLION prisoners.

                  One must ask, why did one of the colonial empires have such a small and weak army? This is also a minus to the French soldier.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 3 May 2014 23: 54
                0
                Quote: clidon
                Compared with the Great Patriotic War and the First World War, this is undoubtedly an insignificant and relatively sluggish military campaign.

                Strongly said - a sluggish company. Which is better, you immediately chop off your head with a sharp ax, or for a long time to cut your neck with a blunt rusty knife?
          2. volkodav
            volkodav 2 May 2014 23: 10
            -2
            about Chechnya shut up an untrained dog. There just the traitor the swan surrendered the army and doused it with mud and the whole Moscow gang with him
          3. Kunar
            Kunar 18 May 2014 15: 09
            0
            I do not agree .... Swan is not at work ...... More Yeltsin and his drinking companions
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 3 May 2014 23: 52
          +1
          Quote: clidon
          we immediately lost in the most trifling campaign like the first Chechen

          There are no trifling companies. Your "armchair" story is deceiving you. For a soldier dying on the battlefield, the scale of the conflict does not matter.
  24. Zaslavsky-S
    Zaslavsky-S 2 May 2014 08: 53
    0
    I agree with you !! They write nonsense, and chew.
  25. edge
    edge 2 May 2014 14: 49
    +2
    Quote: Rider
    hence the conclusion that the Caucasians and the Germans lived well. And therefore, in the column "prisoners" you can safely write down ALL the population of these countries.

    The very meaning of any war is:-seizure of material values, minimal maintenance of the captured human resources, use of the occupied territories (change of ownership). And only with Russia there has always been a war of annihilation .... It has been, it always will be, until we crush them .
  • edge
    edge 2 May 2014 14: 44
    -3
    Quote: clidon
    And the reasons for the surrender can be many.

    captivity is captivity and it doesn’t matter who made what decision, dropped the weapon, raised his hands ....
    1. clidon
      clidon 2 May 2014 18: 55
      +1
      Just important. One manifestation of cowardice, another not.
  • Penzyac
    Penzyac 2 May 2014 21: 33
    -1
    Quote: clidon
    I was talking about quantity. The reasons for the surrender of "countries" may be different.

    No, just the reasons in this matter are the most important thing, and by no means an abstract quantity!
    You can surrender without resistance, but you can be captured, having exhausted the possibilities for resistance.
    That's the whole point!
    And it turns out that a platoon of British with machine guns is braver than an army of Zulus with spears, I would look at the British, if it were the other way around.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 06
      0
      Quote: PENZYAC
      That's the whole point!

      One may face death or captivity, or one may be captured without a conscious state.
  • blizart
    blizart 1 May 2014 12: 32
    +9
    It was 200 km to Paris, and the French declared it an open city. There were only 200 meters left to the Volga, but the Germans never passed them. By the way, a large number of prisoners, this is also one of the consequences of the Russians' unwillingness to give "a single inch." As well as the large losses of the Japanese, the result of the fact that in case of failure they (up to the high command) preferred sepukku, but this, oddly enough, is the reason for their defeat.
  • edge
    edge 2 May 2014 14: 36
    0
    Quote: clidon
    I ask: what country soldiers in the 20th century surrendered the most on the battlefield?

    My answer is, -France, Belgium, Holland ..... except for the Poles, no one even tried to fight, surrendered in droves.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 07
      0
      The Yugoslavs fought, the Greeks.
  • SERGEY USSR
    SERGEY USSR 2 May 2014 19: 28
    +3
    I am not a nationalist, but I want to report that until 1942 the Red Army had a system of assembling parts on the basis of nationality and the summer company of the Germans with an attack to the south was largely successful by this factor. By agitating the Germans that this was not their war and should not die for Soviet rule entire divisions of the social republics and Westerners are ahead of all, of course, and why should they tear the Nazis closer and closer to the stone. After 1942 and to this day, the units are completed with 2 3 non-Russians per 10 Russians or who consider themselves so and we have become invincible because any Tatar is a Kyrgyz Kyrgyz and so on. They didn’t want to give way to the Russian in any way, whether it was courage and courage, and after the first battle all the fighters forgot to the Nazis that they were Tatars, Chechens, Kyrgyz, etc. and they proudly said that they were Russian!
  • erased
    erased 1 May 2014 08: 46
    +3
    I read on another resource. It’s ridiculous in some ways. But this is a veteran of small conflicts, where there was an advantage on the side of his office. And this is what in a real war - only war will show. In the meantime, there is nothing to throw caps over the enemy.
  • gozmosZh
    gozmosZh 1 May 2014 08: 51
    +5
    and also forgot that we can throw hats.
    I have a neighbor and repeat the phrase can be.
  • stas52
    stas52 1 May 2014 08: 54
    +5
    I have already read this article several times on YaP and in my opinion it was already here. Only the "author" of the opinion changes, so the opinion is fiction.
  • Owl
    Owl 1 May 2014 08: 55
    +1
    Nicely. We do not evaluate ourselves in life, but we remember the departed at the table, the third toast ...
  • Signaller
    Signaller 1 May 2014 08: 57
    +4
    It's flattering to read this. Especially about cartridges, but as they say, there are ravines ..... Not everyone is running after cartridges, oh, not everyone. Especially if a person is not used to difficulties since childhood. Like "mama's sons"
    Therefore, in order for everything to be written about us, it is necessary to work on the youth. To bring up normal guys from the generation of "PEPSI". Those who have a solid core in the soul, strength of mind and strength in the body .. And this requires a lot of time and tremendous diligence.
    That’s interesting, Putin took care of this, the TRP norms are being introduced. So soon we will reach the Voroshilov shooters. Well, then, all the youth on the plane. And flew .......
  • Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 1 May 2014 08: 58
    +10
    About the Germans. It seems that they always fought in the same team, because see paragraph 4. Although we know perfectly well that it’s not easy to fight the Germans. These are some of the most powerful and disciplined fighters.
    You just have to pay tribute to our eternal enemies.
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      1. Anat1974
        Anat1974 2 May 2014 08: 56
        0
        Yes, and after World War I thought so. How did it end? Do not underestimate the enemy. With the necessary motivation, the Germans will fight well. At least previous experience speaks of this.
  • Nightcrawler
    Nightcrawler 1 May 2014 09: 00
    +1
    Yes, and most likely our Russians wrote. It may be so, but everything is well noticed. Our blood has the ability to hang on any opponent.
    and also forgot that we can throw hats.

    Not hats and boots. Do not forget, you're Russian))))
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 May 2014 09: 01
    +7
    Of course, there is nothing new in the article, but only a statement of facts! I recalled an interview on TV with an Afghan officer on Salang: he fought against the Shuravi, but according to him he did not see any more worthy soldiers, although as he said they shot his finger, but no offense. Afghans are harsh people, wonderful soldiers and praise from them worth a lot! Russian soldiers with mother's milk absorbed love for the Motherland, self-sacrifice for the sake of "their own friend" and the motto "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" is not an empty phrase for us, it is in the soul of every Russian, no matter what the system may be! You can talk about Honor, but what an honor the mercenaries have who kill for money, so they will never understand and will not be able to defeat the RUSSIAN SOLDIER!
  • Signaller
    Signaller 1 May 2014 09: 01
    +3

    Well, something like this should be brought up, as long as a peaceful sky above your head.
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  • ken
    ken 1 May 2014 09: 02
    +15
    The rating is made up of soldiers of obvious or potential opponents. About NATO, practically nothing. About our military - truthfully.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 1 May 2014 18: 51
      +13
      ... the article may be fiction, but for sure, wink
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  • family tree
    family tree 1 May 2014 09: 03
    +8
    The article is incomplete, in the end you need this smiley wassat
  • ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 1 May 2014 09: 04
    +5
    The article is so uplifting. ABILITY TO WAR, TO PROTECT YOUR LAND, TO ADVANCE-- OBVIOUSLY. THIS IS OUR NATIONAL FEATURE. But maybe you shouldn’t stick it out, they have their knees bent ...... IMHO.
  • blizart
    blizart 1 May 2014 09: 05
    +8
    The Russian people are very modest and, of course, ratings of this kind "strain" some part of the audience, they smell like "terry chauvinism", especially since the original source has not been found. But if you look at it, why is it surprising that Russians come first? Was the shit kept between the Mongols and Europe for hundreds of years? They kept it! We have absorbed two different approaches to the war, different tactics and weapons. Fought for a thousand years? We fought! Get an unknown chromosome into the gene pool. And finally, have they "cleaned up" all "pyataks"? Yes, almost everyone (Tsushima only, but it's by the sea). So much for the spirit of the winner, from father to son. Besides, we are literate almost without exception. So I see nothing unusual in the first place.
    Mongolo-Tatar
  • Free Island
    Free Island 1 May 2014 09: 08
    +6
    "A Russian is able to defeat a tank with his bare hands! And if he has a sapper shovel, he will bury this tank too!")))
  • Yurgens
    Yurgens 1 May 2014 09: 10
    +1
    Where is it interesting they fought with the Russians with the help of tanks and aircraft? and indeed where did they even shoot at each other?)
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 1 May 2014 09: 11
    +11
    Humor aside, the article is correct. It is enough to look at the chronicle of wars. By the way, if you remove "300 Spartans", what other army has a Brest fortress or an attack of the dead?
    1. blizart
      blizart 1 May 2014 12: 42
      +6
      And the attack of the border dogs? Adzhimushkay? The elite "Viking" went to the Siberian division of Polosukhin in full height in "psychic". Do you think the Siberians met her with fire from the trenches? No! They came out of them to meet, with the song "Wide is my native country!" Stupidity, any Western military will say, but in this, the whole Russian soldier!
    2. Free Island
      Free Island 1 May 2014 16: 22
      +8
      Quote: dr.star75
      300 Spartans "

      500 Russians versus 40 Persians. Colonel Karyagin’s campaign against the Persians in 000 was the 1805 Jaeger Regiment)))))) 17 Spartans may be a myth, but 300 Karyagin rangers are a historical fact)))
      1. RusKaz
        RusKaz 1 May 2014 16: 40
        +4
        Quote: Free Island
        500 rangers Karjagin

        Fuck, but I didn’t know (((shame ((
        just read about it. Science fiction just
        1. Free Island
          Free Island 2 May 2014 11: 59
          +2
          to be honest, I only found out a couple of months ago))) but it's not a shame for us, it's a shame for those who, skipping the propaganda of other people's victories and values, absolutely forget about their victories and values!) our minus is the Ministry of Culture and such uncles like Bondarchuk))) who in his last film "Stalingrad" managed to praise a German officer))) 300 Spartans - a brand promoted for a long time, and very much promoted)))) it is clear that Go..owood makes films about knights, about Vikings, about aliens, about anyone, but he NEVER filmed (for some reason) films about heroes, about Slavs and so on)) because they cannot praise us and the image of a drunk man on a bear with a balalaika should remain in their heads forever)) this is so for them you need ... but if a war happens, they will come here, there will be a surprise))))) they will not be killed with balalaikas))))
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 1 May 2014 16: 55
        +2
        I didn’t know either.
      3. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 15 June 2014 17: 17
        0
        The assault on Crete by German paratroopers, the evacuation of Crete from the Greeks and the British despite the loss of the British.
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 11
      0
      Quote: dr.star75
      By the way, if you remove "300 Spartans", what other army has a Brest fortress or an attack of the dead?

      Three hundred Spartans is a fiction, a legend.
  • dim242
    dim242 1 May 2014 09: 16
    +4
    Quote: Alejandro
    Where are the Germans? Did the Germans unlearn it all in half a century?

    if you consider that they have a female gynecologist, the Minister of Defense, and in the army you can serve fagots, then it can be assumed
    1. Free Island
      Free Island 1 May 2014 16: 24
      +1
      after the United States started the war in Iraq (respectively, with the involvement of NATO), half of the soldiers fled from the Bundeswehr. Because it’s one thing in the barracks (which, in comparison with ours, is more like a hostel or even an average motel), drink beer and clean each other in farts, and another thing to go to a real war ... no, Germany doesn’t already have an army
      1. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 15 June 2014 17: 19
        0
        And what the hell they protect in Iraq?
  • bulvas
    bulvas 1 May 2014 09: 17
    +18
    V. Medinsky (Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation, historian by profession) at the Solovyov program was asked to comment on the words of V. Putin about the Russian soul.

    He replied that he was astounded by the accuracy of the wording.

    Historians have come to the conclusion that the Russian spirit has developed historically during the raids of nomadic tribes on Russian cities.

    If in Europe the surrender of the city did not affect anything, a new ruler came, taxes began to be paid to another feudal lord, but everyone remained alive,

    then in Russia it was different: if the nomads were allowed into the city, they destroyed "EVERYONE ABOVE THE WHEEL", and the rest were driven into slavery.

    Hence the Russian spirit - to stand to death, a comrade to help out.

    Also, in Russian tactics, huge spaces are used, to retreat does not mean surrender, it means to lure the enemy into an ambush, cut off from supply. Hence the "cunning and perfidy of the Russians", "not civilization"

    So, we can agree with the article.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 1 May 2014 09: 23
    +6
    Somehow too lightweight fits the description ... not everything is so simple and primitive.

    For example, the army of Vietnam in the last years of the war with the USA ...

    Afghanistan, he is generally different ... whom do we mean Pashtuns ?? ... Uzbeks ?? ... Tajiks ?? ...

    I won’t talk about our Caucasus ... you can watch Rokhlin’s interview and draw your own conclusions.
  • Jarserge
    Jarserge 1 May 2014 09: 32
    +7
    No matter how nice, but still it’s just agitation, everything seems to be correct on the whole, but everything is relative. What rating is what kind of employee scale, so balm on national feelings is half-truth. I fought with the Afghans and with many of the above, gentlemen differently sometimes it’s possible to get rid of so much from the Arabs ..... In order to competently fight, you need to learn, and have an IDEA, not to mention fairy tales about SVD and maximum range
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 1 May 2014 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: Jarserge
      No matter how nice, but still it’s just agitation, everything seems to be correct on the whole, but everything is relative. What rating is what kind of employee scale, so balm on national feelings is half-truth. I fought with the Afghans and with many of the above, gentlemen differently different sometimes from the Arabs can be so raked ..... In order to competently fight it is necessary to study, but to have an IDEA not to mention fairy tales about SVD and ultimate range


      In my opinion this is the best comment. And then they threw up vomit:

      - Has the plane arrived? Anyway, knock down a sapper blade.
      - Tactics and strategy? Easy! By any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy ...
      - Russians, even mercenaries, are not able to retreat.


      After all, how many times have already been burned on "we will throw our hats" or "but Bismarck praised us." Cooley is confused by these praises if after Bismarck they got rid of the Japanese.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 1 May 2014 14: 00
        +4
        "Cooley would be useless from these praises if after Bismarck they got rid of the Japanese."
        Look at the map of the world, ask: what is the largest country in the world?
        1. rkkasa xnumx
          rkkasa xnumx 1 May 2014 14: 50
          -3
          Quote: dr.star75
          Look at the map of the world, ask: what is the largest country in the world?


          Open and read the history tutorial.
          The fact that we have the largest country in the world did not help praise, but only interfered.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 1 May 2014 15: 06
            +2
            I advise you to do it. And most importantly, the result is obvious: a geography textbook hi
      2. Zaslavsky-S
        Zaslavsky-S 2 May 2014 08: 57
        0
        The Japanese also remember the Russian bayonet attacks, near Port Arthur !! Oh, how they remember !! Legends make up!
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 20
          -1
          Quote: Zaslavsky-S
          The Japanese also remember the Russian bayonet attacks, near Port Arthur !! Oh, how they remember !! Legends make up!

          And where do you think these ideas came from? Self-sacrifice, the triumph of the spirit over power, and so on. After the war with the Russians.
      3. Free Island
        Free Island 2 May 2014 12: 03
        +1
        the war with the Japanese was not such a war)) so, again, an anti-Russian brand promoted by the West. The Russian Far East began to develop literally "the other day", which was known here in tsarist times, some Nivkhs knew that the tsar at that time was simply not capable of waging any kind of war in the Far East. And nevertheless - Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands are ours, the whole Far East is ours, so you would have forgotten about this "war". It's funny to read.
        By the way, if I’m not a bad connoisseur of my native land (Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands), I know very well that the Japanese were driven out from the Kuril Islands by small troops. That is, the Japanese entrenched on the islands were much superior to the numerically advancing space forces. And after a couple of islands taken on the rest, Japanese generals just began to give up without a fight! Have you seen the fortified areas on Sakhalin along the coast? Dot on Dot, in three rows and much more. So do not humiliate the dignity of the Russian soldier, Cossacks on Sakhalin chopped these samurai be healthy. And those half-fools who sincerely believe that the United States saved the world by dropping nuclear bombs on Japan - just idiots) The Russians would have crushed the Japanese even without these bombs, just a war would have lasted a couple of months longer.
      4. Setrac
        Setrac 4 May 2014 00: 18
        +1
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        Bismarck was raked from the Japanese.

        Here it must be understood that the Japanese did not fight against the Russians on their own. behind Japan stood the world's strongest colonial empires. As in the Crimean War, Russia fought against the whole world, and not just against Japan.
        Considering the HUGE amount of forces and means involved against Russia and very modest results - I do not think that Russia lost Japanese-Japanese. Actually, like the Crimean one.
    2. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 2 May 2014 13: 15
      0
      Quote: Jarserge
      speaking of fairy tales about SVD and ultimate range

      They shot at friends with pneumatics, but they had more practice, in general, it turned out I was more precisely surprised myself, I really didn’t say that I was aiming at another target, the most important thing is to get the person right.
  • sub307
    sub307 1 May 2014 09: 34
    +6
    Modestly "I swallow sweet snot" and am moved.
  • Clueless
    Clueless 1 May 2014 09: 37
    +7
    set a minus, because nefig post articles from entertainment resources
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 May 2014 19: 26
      +8
      but it’s interesting, Dear Zlyuchny, your grandfather also stood for defense in the vicinity of Moscow or on the Kursk Bulge in the trenches? m ... or maybe on the Chutskoye Lake the Russian regiments also campaigned to stand to death ..? Or maybe the Borodino massacre also turned out to be campaigning with action? such a flash mob)) CORRECTLY SPEAK-RUSICH WILL BE FIGHTING NOT IN NAME, BUT AGAINST ... THEREFORE WAS A BREST FORTRESS AND MOSCOW AND STALINGRAD!
      1. Free Island
        Free Island 2 May 2014 12: 10
        -1
        Quote: NEXUS
        your grandfather, too, for agitation

        judging by the comment, his grandfather threw other agitation ... from planes to besieged Leningrad and besieged Stalingrad. Hello, Russian, you’ll live.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 1 May 2014 09: 41
    +6
    This article walks on the Internet for a week. Moreover, the sources of this rating vary. So you need to perceive it with a fair amount of humor.
  • Igmail
    Igmail 1 May 2014 09: 50
    +3
    Click on the link, you definitely won’t lose time. There is documented and argued in the catch-up of this article.
    one of the quotes;
    "On the very first day, as soon as we went on the attack, as one of ours shot himself with his own weapon. Clutching a rifle between his knees, he inserted the barrel into his mouth and pressed the trigger. So the war and all the horrors associated with it ended for him." (anti-tank gunner Johann Danzer, Brest, June 22, 1941).
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/81149/
  • demotivator
    demotivator 1 May 2014 10: 08
    +6
    Quote: Andrey57
    Therefore, Bismarck also warned that it’s like fighting a Russian death

    Bismarck is not only a battleship, but also a great German politician and diplomat. His tears, sweat and blood ended the reunification of Germany in 1871.
    This was a man who loved to drink, eat well, fight in a duel in his spare time, and arrange a couple of good wars. For some time, the Iron Chancellor served in Russia as the Ambassador of Prussia. During this time, he fell in love with our country, but he really did not like expensive firewood, and in general he was a miser ...
    Here are Bismarck's most famous quotes about Russia:
    * Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.
    * Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.
    * Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death.

    In general, the analysis made by this PMC fighter is very informative. Everyone who has their own personal experience can compare with their impressions.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 1 May 2014 14: 04
      +2
      Bismarck is an intelligent man, but the British brought him to power for the purpose of creating an army for the war (guess yourself) with Russia. Now we see a similar project - Ukraine.
      1. Kerzhak
        Kerzhak 30 June 2014 18: 59
        0
        That's just no one in Ukraine and pulls close to Bismarck. Only to mazepa.
  • shitovmg
    shitovmg 1 May 2014 10: 09
    +4
    The Germans are worthy warriors!
    1. asar
      asar 1 May 2014 11: 14
      +5
      May be! But We were in Berlin in 1945, and in 1941 they only looked at Moscow through optics!
    2. Free Island
      Free Island 2 May 2014 12: 13
      -1
      Quote: shitovmg
      Germans worthy warriors

      were in the first half of the last century. And now the Bundeswehr is a homosexual in a homosexual, and already more than 75% of the German population are ethnic Turks .. so by-and-by of those same warriors .. no ..