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West is afraid to destroy Russia?

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Kim zigfeld of "American Thinker" discovered in Russia not one, but a whole multitude of Achilles toes. This very set was even rendered in the headline of the article: “Russia's Achilles Heels (Plural)”


Every time, the journalist notes, when the terribly dubious foundations of the Russian economy are pointed out to his apologists, they respond the same way.

"Russia has a small debt and large reserves, so it can withstand any storm," they chant, and the anthem of the USSR can serve as a background to their words.


Kim Zigfeld does not believe that such arguments are true. Moreover, in her opinion, low debt and large reserves are the main “Achilles heels” of Russia. All this will destroy Russia in Ukraine.

Just last week, Russia fell into an economic storm. Its stock market reeled: it lost more than 5% of its value. The US Treasury Secretary said that the United States will keep in mind the personal assets of Vladimir Putin if only he starts an invasion of Ukraine. S&P downgraded Russia's credit rating due to massive capital outflows. Each new day, according to the author, brings with it new results of how chaos is growing in the Russian banking sector.

World leaders piled on Putin with genuine zeal, said the journalist, and they criticize him for refusing to take at least one step to de-escalate the crisis in Ukraine.

As an economic guru, an expert on Russia, Anders Aslund (Anders Aslund), notes, this is a fairy tale that Russia's foreign exchange reserves are hidden somewhere in some kind of fortress that goes into the bowels of the Kremlin, and they are followed there with a bag every time recession attack. No, the reserves are not even in Russia. These funds, which have a source of international transactions for the sale of minerals, are not stored in dungeons, but mainly abroad, in foreign banks, and they can be frozen by the introduction of economic sanctions.

According to Aslund, who referred to the March report on the Russian economy of the World Bank, Russia's aggregate foreign debt amounted to 372 billion by the end of January, while international foreign exchange reserves amount to 477 billion dollars, but most of them can be frozen.

In other words, the journalist writes, Russia is rapidly approaching the time when foreign debt exceeds reserves.

Certain sanctions can also reduce Russia's national income, forcing the state to collect even more debt. The pressure exerted on the Russian economy can force the Kremlin to spend billions to protect the value of stocks and the national currency.

However, Western countries may deprive Russia of access to credit. This means that the Kremlin simply cannot solve its problems through further borrowing. This could give rise to a financial crisis like the one that the Russians had after the collapse of the USSR.

The journalist recalls that the crisis happened in the Russian economy and relatively recently: in 2008-2009, when the price of oil fell sharply.

According to Kim Zigfeld, today “the only thing that keeps Russia from falling into the abyss” is “the West’s fear of chaos that may arise in the event of a Russian collapse.”

Aslund writes that a month ago the West discussed the effectiveness of possible sanctions against Russia. But during the spring session of the International Monetary Fund in Washington 12-13 April, the following question was raised:

“But do we really want to destroy Russia so quickly?”


Russia decided "to face off with the NATO alliance, whose participants have total GDP ten times more than Russia and which spends ten times more on military spending." Russia decided to do it at the time, the journalist writes, when, even before the introduction of any sanctions, her economy was already "on the verge of a stunning recession." These are exactly the same mistakes that the USSR committed - these are the steps that led to the national collapse, the article says.

According to Aslund, Putin consults on the Ukrainian issue almost exclusively with former KGB agents. Putin does not have a single adviser who can competently assess the economic consequences of military action. Just as was the case in Soviet times, Putin does not participate in discussions, but rather makes decisions in the form of “dictatorial decrees.”

Putin stated that, according to public opinion polls, Russia strongly supported the “seizure of Ukraine”, however, the journalist believes that these polls do not reflect the public point of view: after all, the public was not properly informed about the possible economic consequences of the invasion.

“Even Russians are starting to ask uncomfortable questions,” she notes. In Vedomosti, economist Evsei Gurevich notes that in a desperate attempt to compete with the West, Russia spends almost five times more on its armed forces (meaning the proportion of military expenditures in GDP) compared to the average member of NATO. Moreover, Russia is planning an even greater increase in these costs. And this means that, like in Soviet times, the Russian people will bear a much greater burden to pay for military expenses than we see in countries competing with Russia. Gurevich warns: only a highly developed country can act as a superpower without harm to itself.

Russia can not be attributed to the highly developed countries. Rather, Russia is a country dependent on the export of raw materials, the journalist said. Gurevich is worried because his country already feels the coming difficulties. Ford and Renault have announced a reduction in business operations in Russia. In the Crimea, "McDonalds" was closed. Only in the first quarter of this year, Russia lost from 50 to 75 billion dollars as a result of capital outflows: panic-stormed investors sought to take their money out of the country, when they saw that "the neo-Soviet Putin regime had exposed its claws."

Further, Kim Zigfeld points out that “Russian Mark Zuckerberg, the founder of the Russian version of Facebook called“ Vkontakte ”(“ Thank Mark Zuckerburg, the founder of the Russian version of Facebook called Vkontakte ... ”), has already left the country and is not going to return. (Speech about P. Durov.)

Just a month ago, observers were still hoping that more would be done in Russia to develop the principle of the rule of law, but now these commentators just want to see “bare rationality” - something that, according to the journalist, has recently been sorely lacking.

Military analyst Alexander Golts argues that Russia simply does not have the military force that is enough to occupy, maintain and control Eastern Ukraine. The analyst believes that this fact will not necessarily stop Putin from trying.

Needless to say, the journalist notes, even if Russia had the necessary strength, it still does not have the economic power to keep the Ukrainian East indefinitely.

And now we give a few comments.

Peter_Grynch
It's terrible that Putin consults only with his "followers," and Obama consults only with his own! This is how the world wars begin!


Pava kava
“S&P lowered credit to Russia” means that one must believe the statements of “S&P”? .. The Russian economy is doing great ... The author's Russophobia is disgusting ...


mikell
Oh, look, another pile of trash from crazy Kim Zigfeld!


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  1. air wolf
    air wolf April 30 2014 08: 38
    +22
    There is only one way out of this situation - to begin the annexation of Alaska and everyone will forget about Ukraine and the Russian Crimea, and this is not an April Fool’s joke. And no war will be.
    And Faina Ivanovna from Leninogorsk was right, who asked Putin about this.
    1. Canep
      Canep April 30 2014 09: 09
      +28
      These funds, which are the source of international transactions for the sale of minerals, are not stored in dungeons, but mainly abroad, in foreign banks, and they can be frozen through the introduction of economic sanctions.
      After that, the entire world monetary and financial pyramid will collapse, the Chinese will decide to protect their assets on the same day, and throw out all their reserves on the market in exchange for something that has a real price: gold, metals, oil, gas, timber, etc. d. This will be followed by the collapse of the US economy, the most severe economic crisis in Europe. In connection with the weakening of the West, the Islamists will raise their heads and establish their order in Europe and in half of Asia. China will decide to regain Taiwan, and in general will establish its hegemony in half the world, now only the USA is holding them back.
      1. Sunjar
        Sunjar April 30 2014 09: 40
        +30
        Let them build on calming illusions. The more they are confident in their strengths and weaknesses in Russia, the better for us and the funnier it will be to see their vile discouraged faces.

        "And we thought that everything was calculated and Russia should lose and disappear altogether. But everything turned out wrong. The Russian frosts and Russian barbarians are to blame for everything, who do not know that they are defeated, but then resist, which led us to defeat ourselves. ".

        How can one be like this, time after time they get on the same rake, but they don’t have everything.
      2. elmi
        elmi April 30 2014 10: 56
        +15
        Canep
        These funds, which are the source of international transactions for the sale of minerals, are not stored in dungeons, but mainly abroad, in foreign banks, and they can be frozen through the introduction of economic sanctions.

        In addition, by freezing our assets in banks, they will lose the "Hen that lays the golden eggs" because Russia will reorient its business from the west to other markets, will refuse to settle in dollars and euros, sell oil and gas for dollars, will refuse to purchase securities and government. abligation of Western countries and many other measures. All these retaliatory measures, if they do not bring down the Western financial system, will seriously undermine. And even if China joins our side and sells American government bonds, dollars, etc. then the financial system of America will surely collapse, followed by Europe. In addition, the West is beginning to understand that introducing new sanctions against us, on the contrary, they do not weaken us, but strengthen and unite. Russia always woke up in times of danger and threats and rebuffed its enemies three times.
      3. atalef
        atalef April 30 2014 21: 13
        -5
        Quote: Canep
        After that, the entire world monetary and financial pyramid will collapse, the Chinese will decide to protect their assets on the same day, and throw out all their reserves on the market in exchange for something that has a real price: gold, metals, oil, gas, timber, etc. d.

        And if it already collapses, who will sell real assets (gold, oil, wood) --- who then will need all these pieces of paper?

        Quote: Canep
        This will be followed by the collapse of the US economy, the most severe economic crisis in Europe

        As I understand it, China and Russia will not suffer?
        Quote: Canep
        In connection with the weakening of the West, the Islamists will raise their heads and establish their order in Europe

        Well, do not rush, there are certainly Islamists, but they are not so strong as to take power. Moreover, who will pay? And without a gold reserve .. request (as Popandopulo said)

        Quote: Canep
        China will decide to regain Taiwan, and in general will establish its hegemony in half the world, now only the USA is holding them back.

        So China will not have the same thing. Bucks (more than a trillion will be thrown off on a deshovka or buried), than hegmonia will establish and feed 1.5 billion? Without the West and despite the fact that neither the West nor America (sort of) can buy anything, therefore, hundreds of millions of Chinese will automatically become unemployed --- what will they eat?
      4. illarion
        illarion April 30 2014 22: 46
        +5
        And we will need to throw out the fucking McDonald's from Russia (Burger King, CFS), drink everything except Coca-Cola and Pepsi, double tax Google and Apple, find the discrepancies of the Opel and GM machines to our ergonomic indicators, find caverns in Boeing's toilet cisterns, attach extra crap to our rocket engines, accuse Citibank of sponsoring terrorism, find worms in dollar banknotes, and Obama has Russian relatives and a file in the KGB with agreement to cooperate, Michelle Obama has a sister in Tula, and McCain has an illegitimate daughter in Vietnam, recognize Prince Charles as the son of Gagarin, and give our hackers a medal for breaking the Morgan and Pentagon banks. And if you think about it, there is much more ...
      5. Skipper2050
        Skipper2050 1 May 2014 01: 52
        +2
        In principle, let it be so expressed, I think it is even beneficial for us (the less healthy people there, it is calmer, as they say).
        ...About people...
        economist Evsey Gurevich - read several materials about him, I didn’t notice anything like that ... like all liberal economists ... the economy is weak, etc.Even if Russia lived according to the laws of the economy!

        Military analyst Alexander Goltz - I can’t say anything good about him, I went to the USA and began to write what Russia has a weak army, in my opinion it’s ridiculous (unless it’s our zealot for a specific purpose - disa)
    2. Letun
      Letun April 30 2014 09: 42
      +9
      Quote: air wolf
      There is only one way out of this situation - to begin the annexation of Alaska and everyone will forget about Ukraine and the Russian Crimea, and this is not an April Fool’s joke.

      People, are you tired of writing this Mui Ne about the return of Alaska yet? This "joke" is already well-worn.
      And by the way, in the yard already on April 30, we wake up.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 30 2014 09: 47
        +7
        Quote: Letun
        This "joke" is already well-worn.

        Alaska can only be returned with the entire west coast and on the basis of broad autonomy, only after the US has brought its suicide to the end.
        1. poccinin
          poccinin April 30 2014 11: 10
          +7
          it is correct. it is necessary to organize your "Maidan" in Mexico or Texas. Let them sip our. ZHIRINOVSKY will blow up cookies.
          1. Valentine77 64
            Valentine77 64 April 30 2014 20: 03
            0
            And what will you feed them when the cookies run out?
            1. illarion
              illarion April 30 2014 23: 02
              +1
              Slogans: America for Americans, the first person was an American. Who does not skip, that
        2. ando_bor
          ando_bor April 30 2014 11: 14
          +3
          Quote: Canep
          Alaska can only be returned with the entire west coast and on the basis of broad autonomy, only after the US has brought its suicide to the end.

          We do not need Alaska at the moment, there are enough of our own north, but it is imperative to "joke" so that the Americans do not feel their absolute exclusivity,
          Yes, and you can always surrender it in exchange for Ukraine, for example.
        3. Valentine77 64
          Valentine77 64 April 30 2014 20: 02
          0
          I apologize for the expression, but why the hell do we need land in the Western Hemisphere?
          Feed snickering parasites?
          On hre.na they rested against us? They know nothing but McDonald's. Dream of a beautiful life in Hollywood.
          Nah.en we need them.
          It seems that the State Department specifically fanned this hype, they want to throw off the West (well, they don’t have funds for subsidies)
      2. illarion
        illarion April 30 2014 23: 01
        0
        Alaska can be sold to the Japanese or Chinese.
    3. Bronis
      Bronis April 30 2014 10: 57
      +9
      Quote: air wolf
      There is only one way out of this situation - to begin the annexation of Alaska and everyone will forget about Ukraine and the Russian Crimea

      Eee ... here it is necessary to select terms ... It is not necessary to begin annexation! And the reunion of the Aleuts of Alaska and Kamchatka, tragically and unjustly divided back in the 1867 year ... wassat
      1. muks
        muks April 30 2014 22: 35
        0
        The need to collect ALEUTS (tragically and unjustly divided STILL in 1867) into one Aleutian-Kamchatka formation is obvious even for all workers, employees and patients of clinics named after Skvortsov-Stepanov, Kashchenko, just Pryazhki, as well as Sychevka and White Stolbov. There is no news from Kazan yet, but the patients there are somewhat specific ... Learning without thinking is bad; thinking without learning is scary. In order to .... eeeee "pick up TERMS (????)" you need to have a head on your shoulders, not an extension of the neck. Not every neck extension is able to assimilate, "digest" and comprehend the information provided by both the media and other sources. IT IS NECESSARY TO DO YOUR BUSINESS-INVESTING IN IT AT LEAST A LITTLE SANE SENSE! AND DON'T PUSH THE STREET WITH ITS ETERNALLY CHANGING HAVES ... and beer and vodka should not be mixed!
    4. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar April 30 2014 11: 53
      +3
      http://warfiles.ru/show-54238-nebolshoy-sboy-kursa-rossiyskoy-rakety-rs-24-yars.
      html
      On April 26.04.2014, 24, the next launch of the RS-XNUMX YARS intercontinental missile from the Kapustin Yar test site was carried out as part of the Strategic Missile Forces military exercises.

      The missile was supposed to cover the distance in 9 000 km in less than 2 hours. The missile did its job perfectly, but the missile’s flight course officially failed, the missile moved toward the continent of North America, the target is the United States.

      As stated at the Pentagon: Russia was trying to provoke the states into military action that would lead to irreparable.

      US air defense could not take the RS-24 on target even when the missile was less than 2000 km from the country. When the rocket approached a distance of about 500 km, it changed course and flew towards Argentina.

      The Russian Defense Ministry commented on this situation as "A slight misalignment of the missile's flight path, moreover, it was absolutely safe and did not contain an explosive base."

      The Pentagon called Russia's actions provocative and recalled that Russian missiles never gave such failures, not taking into account the Bulava missile, and that they do not believe in the accident of all this.

      Recall that this is not the first time that the United States is unable to ensure its security, in particular the recent case in the Black Sea, when the Russian Su-24 bomber with the support of the radio-electronic warfare system opposed the American missile destroyer Donald Cook.

      The Su-24 using the EW system created irresistible obstacles to the radars and the guidance system of the destroyer, after which for more than an hour it simulated a combat attack, approaching the destroyer at 100 meters.

      The world arms race will always remain with us, said Chuck Heigl, but today we see something else. The United States began to show its weakness and helplessness.
      1. Enot-poloskun
        Enot-poloskun April 30 2014 12: 41
        +7
        I wonder how many US military changed cowards after a rocket flight?

        According to the article. The American author loves illusions.

        In short. Money was withdrawn from Russia by speculators - this only contributes to the recovery of the economy.

        The stock market in Russia is falling - the state will buy up assets cheaply.

        Credit money can be borrowed not only from the West, but also in the East.

        What will Europe do without Russian energy? When will they flow to China?
        1. Baikal
          Baikal April 30 2014 16: 06
          +5
          This yellow news about the rocket is pure fiction. If interested, look for material on this topic.
        2. atalef
          atalef April 30 2014 21: 18
          -1
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          I wonder how many US military cowards changed after a rocket flight

          In general, no matter how much, countries without fail inform each other about launches of ICBMs
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          In short. Money from Russia was withdrawn by speculators - this only contributes to the recovery of the economy

          Which, as I understand it, is flourishing without money?
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          Credit money can be borrowed not only from the West, but also in the East

          Money can be taken anywhere in China, for example. He won so much in Vinisuele that more than a third of the oil goes to China (almost free since it is payment on loans, but there is no money for a long time)
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          What will Europe do without Russian energy? When will they flow to China?

          Russia's share in the European gas market is 30%, do you think it is a lot or a little and is there an opportunity to replace it or not?
          1. illarion
            illarion April 30 2014 23: 09
            0
            Borrow from Israel (indirectly)
      2. sled beach
        sled beach April 30 2014 16: 01
        +4
        I think this is not the United States shows its weakness and the Russians its strength. This is an important difference.
      3. The comment was deleted.
    5. Yorgven
      Yorgven 2 May 2014 06: 54
      0
      This cunning creature, doesn’t understand one small thing, the Russian Federation, after such steps, can legally declare NATO WAR. And then what will happen to their economies ...
  2. Same lech
    Same lech April 30 2014 08: 39
    +17
    in a desperate attempt to compete with the West, Russia spends almost five times more on its armed forces


    Hehe ... in a desperate attempt to discredit RUSSIA again, Kim Siegfeld spends lying cars five times more than WASHINGTON POST and the US State Department.

    Another Russophobic article ... tired of reading them ... no useful information ... one INFORMATION trash.
    1. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun April 30 2014 17: 21
      +2
      in a desperate attempt to defame again RUSSIA Kim Siegfeld for the collection of materials cheated on her husband with a lover from Ukraine)))
  3. ale-x
    ale-x April 30 2014 08: 39
    +2
    Akhtung !!!! Yankees are coming !!! It's time to give up!
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 April 30 2014 16: 31
      +12
      Quote: ale-x
      Akhtung !!!! Yankees are coming !!! It's time to give up!
      If interested, read who should give up to whom!
      Rating employee Blackwater on the combat capability of the military from different countries

      5. American regulars. How many films were made about the invincible American army ... There is only one BUT. The Yankees absolutely do not know how to fight without artillery training, tanks and airstrikes. If the territory has not been scorched to a state of a deserted desert, the soldiers will not go there. And if they go, then they don’t come back. They shoot very well, perfectly coordinated, but they are shy in front of any resistance. Then they become easy prey. Losses are going through hard, up to a complete loss of combat effectiveness. Underpants. Rating - biting dogs.
      4. American mercenaries. Nice fighters. They are able to act both as a team and alone, beautiful arrows. There are desperate individuals with whom it is sometimes difficult to cope. But they have a very weak point - morality. And the lack of motivation, except money. The corpse does not need money, so most of them do not go to where it is very hot. And in every possible way they avoid the first line of fire. Dogs of war, if you evaluate.
      3. Asians. I did not encounter regulars. Mercenaries are capable of delivering an excruciating headache to any enemy. If acting as a group. What is in their head is unclear, but they are capable of any recklessness. They shoot beautifully, often act from an ambush into which the enemy falls according to a cunning plan. Asians do not give a damn about the support of equipment, aircraft and shells. They do not care if there are cartridges or not. The main thing is the presence of brothers. But alone, alas, they become useless. Rating - army of the emperor.
      2. Caucasians and Afghans. Strong warriors. Great arrows. Hardy, brave. They know how to act in groups, alone, motivated and insidious. In battle, they act competently, they know how to tactics and strategy. They are not afraid of equipment and airstrikes, they act effectively from ambushes. They have the only weak point - they are unable to fight to the last breath, a rare fighter is able to sacrifice himself for the sake of a common victory. Unless he is a martyr, but that’s a completely different story ... Rating - real Fighters.
      1. Russians. To oppose a platoon of Russian mercenaries is fierce, bloody. They fight to the end, to the last bullet, and when the ammunition runs out - they use everything that is at hand. Mortally wounded a Russian? Do not touch it, most likely before death - he clamped a grenade without a check. Russians are inventive, have great intuition. And ... Do not care. Has the plane arrived? Poher, knock down a sapper shovel. Tank? Poher, if your hands are not broken. Fighters who have never held SVD at a critical moment are able to get out of it at the limit of range. And poher, that this was the last cartridge, will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easy! By any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy ... Russians, even mercenaries, are not able to retreat. And if you retreat - be sure, they just run after the cartridges. All of the above applies to the army, who are more or less fired. However, for this in most cases, sufficient - the only clash ...

      Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/18046-reyting-sotrudnika-blackwater-o-boesposobnost
      i-voennyh-raznyh-stran.html
      Politikus.ru
  4. Egoza
    Egoza April 30 2014 08: 40
    +10
    "But Germany is not a fool!"
    1. raf
      raf April 30 2014 09: 24
      +4
      It’s true that she was awake, you won’t hide in a bag, no matter how hard you try!
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 30 2014 12: 08
      +3
      And what do we see?
      Defamation continues and people of their own, who are dissatisfied with this propaganda, are called nuts. A lot of nuts - one of the liars says so. Oh, he’s not nuts, but thousands of Germans who don’t like lies, nuts.
      Democracy in action. Only this "Democracy" is for aristocrats.
      Distortion of all concepts and terms.
  5. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn April 30 2014 08: 42
    +33
    Here the comrade from Germany sent from their internet:

    It translates as: no war, peace with Russia.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 30 2014 08: 58
      +5
      Germany in general, well, i.e. the people, many politicians and analysts seem to be soberly looking at things, they understand that Putin is not a flayer, and that Crimea is rightfully ours! But here Mmmmmerkel something clearly takes pro-government politics, he obeys everything, and conducts Russophobic rhetoric. Something to see Obamych grabbed her tightly !!
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 30 2014 16: 38
        +1
        I grabbed it. Count at least tens of thousands of American troops in Germany.
      2. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. 1 May 2014 04: 52
        +2
        I’m thinking, will my daughter, thanks to her mother, be a citizen of Germany, and her sons to fight with her father and grandfather? Unless, of course, completely chopped off the roots ... Yes, everything mixed up, etc.
      3. bomg.77
        bomg.77 1 May 2014 05: 15
        0
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Something to see Obamych grabbed her tightly !!
        Germany, Japan occupied since 45 year ..... USA, as well as a number of other countries, in fact.
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 30 2014 09: 00
      +6
      Quote: Karlsonn
      It translates as: no war, peace with Russia.

      not everyone else in Germany lost their memory!
  6. Egoza
    Egoza April 30 2014 08: 42
    +16
    Network .....
    "The participation of German special forces in operations in Ukraine in the German government called nonsense

    The German government has denied media reports about the use of special forces of the Bundeswehr KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte) to free the OSCE observers captured in eastern Ukraine, calling it media fiction. About this writes Deutsche Welle. “The KSK special unit was not put on high alert, it did not receive any instructions in connection with the situation in Ukraine,” a representative of the German Ministry of Defense said.

    Ukainsk military experts, who wished to remain anonymous, told Russkaya Vesna that such a special operation on the territory of Ukraine is a legal nonsense and is practically impossible in the current political environment.

    Earlier, the Bild newspaper, citing unnamed sources, reported that the special forces of the Bundeswehr KSK and the GSG 9 police were put on high alert. On this basis, the publication concluded that units could be involved in special operations. According to the newspaper, within a few hours they can be transferred to Ukraine to carry out an action to free the hostages. So far, all negotiations with the militias on the release of observers have ended to no avail, notes Bild.

    PS

    Readers of the Bild publication with great skepticism reacted to the very idea of ​​sending German special forces to Ukraine (translation of the author).

    Karl dall
    Great article. I haven't laughed like that for a long time.

    Uwe tecken
    Then Russia sends its riot police, and he turns the KSK through a meat grinder.

    Rudolf becker
    These boys' grandfathers were already there. So let them ask their grandfathers what happened to them there.

    Bildo zeitungo
    But what about the Constitution of Germany?
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 30 2014 09: 03
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Readers of the Bild publication with great skepticism reacted to the very idea of ​​sending German special forces to Ukraine (translation of the author).

      Karl dall
      Great article. I haven't laughed like that for a long time.

      Uwe tecken
      Then Russia sends its riot police, and he turns the KSK through a meat grinder.

      Rudolf becker
      These boys' grandfathers were already there. So let them ask their grandfathers what happened to them there.

      Bildo zeitungo
      But what about the Constitution of Germany?

      Merkel should better listen to her people, and not to advice because of the "big puddle" © (Putin)
    2. the villain
      the villain April 30 2014 11: 51
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Uwe Tecken Then Russia sends its riot police, and he cranks KSK through a meat grinder.

      Why riot police? I remembered an old anecdote: "And the Russians also have a construction battalion, so they don't even get weapons" laughing
  7. Sars
    Sars April 30 2014 08: 43
    +8
    Without the "Russian Zuckelberg" Russia is now "cranky" !!!! ???


    And if this is the case, can all the "Zukelbergs" be sent to the west?
    1. rereture
      rereture April 30 2014 08: 58
      -9
      Released already in the 90s. Brain drain.

      The state needs to create conditions for attracting specialists, since they are quite the opposite, they constrain. They squeezed a person out of a company that he himself created because he did not want to disclose user data on VKontakte.
      1. grog_bm
        grog_bm April 30 2014 09: 54
        +1
        Well, this is not a fact at all, our measurements have been winning prizes in international programming competitions for many years, and moreover, very few of them dump abroad or even just work for foreign companies even in Russia ... the question immediately arises - where are they and what are they doing ???)))))
        1. rereture
          rereture April 30 2014 17: 27
          +2
          Taking prizes at the Olympics is one thing, and putting knowledge into business is another. Where then domestic computers, on the domestic element base? Where is the domestic operating system? In p ... de. None of this.

          Where does such information come that few of them go abroad?

          Abroad, for example, a higher RFP, better working conditions, the state does not constrain, a silicone valley with promising developments. And we have? What does it shine for?

          The example of Durov is indicative. The man created the second most visited social network in the world, which is convenient and functional, each page as a microblog, creation of interest groups, photos, videos, audio. Moreover, this social. the network is profitable. The most promising runet project. And then they squeezed him out of a company that he himself had created. Due to the fact that he did not want to disclose user data, and sent to all copyright holders.

          And the truth hurts so many people that without Russian "Zuckerbergs" we will continue to sit in other people's social networks, use other people's operating systems, computers on someone else's electronics, smartphones made abroad.
          1. Nonik
            Nonik April 30 2014 22: 21
            0
            Quote: rereture
            Taking prizes at the Olympics is one thing, and putting knowledge into business is another. Where then domestic computers, on the domestic element base? Where is the domestic operating system?
            There are military men. And the consumer created only the United States, and here it is unlikely to keep up. But you argue so interestingly .. In Japan, are there also smart people, or in China and in other countries? And why then did not create consumer computers? Well, etc. It just so happened that in some area there is leadership. But it is impossible to keep pace everywhere and everywhere. And the capitals of the whole world are not in Russia.
            PS There is also a domestic OS - military. And there are plenty of consumers, from Linux and android to Windows, why reinvent the wheel?
            1. rereture
              rereture April 30 2014 22: 52
              +1
              Aha "domestic", please tell me how this operating system on the linux kernel can be considered domestic?

              And there are plenty of consumers, from Linux and android to Windows, why reinvent the wheel?


              Okay, Linux is still free, but windows costs about 5 tr, plus another 5t. for office suite microsoft word, etc. Plus all sorts of loopholes for uncles from the United States. Windows, by the way, is used on most office computers, and our deeply disrespectable deputies use windows at home. Here our guys could create a protected wasp, and even on the basis of Linux, but still its own protected axis as a military one.
              1. Nonik
                Nonik 1 May 2014 15: 15
                0
                Quote: rereture
                Aha "domestic", please tell me how this operating system on the linux kernel can be considered domestic?
                Linux can be different, there are very protected versions.
                Quote: rereture
                Okay, Linux is still free, but windows costs about 5 tr, plus another 5t. for office suite microsoft word, etc. Plus all sorts of loopholes for uncles from the United States. Windows, by the way, is used on most office computers, and our deeply disrespectable deputies use windows at home. Here our guys could create a protected wasp, and even on the basis of Linux, but still its own protected axis as a military one.
                About loopholes - is cut by sysadmins. And for the house for Windows you can not pay winked And at the household level, a high level of protection is not needed.
                They told, for example, the story of how some teenagers decided to make a joke on the FSB - they started encrypted correspondence (like 256-bit encryption) about the supply of weapons, and they lurked about such a foolish month. It ended for them with a nervous shock - the FSB was also joking, but in its own way winked This is to say that no matter how encrypted at the household level, but experts will be able to figure it out.
          2. illarion
            illarion April 30 2014 23: 17
            0
            Yes, but he kept all the information on his home computer ?! On a floppy disk. All videos, music and other information. Do not tell my slippers.
          3. strannik.it
            strannik.it April 30 2014 23: 49
            0
            In Italy, until now, schoolchildren study computer science on Mikrosh computers. At this time, wages fell by 30-40%, unemployment 13%, among young people 45%, taxes plus food prices rose. The price per liter of gasoline is 1,85 euros, per liter of solyaras 1,70 euros. A 2-bedroom apartment (not in the center) costs about 500 euros a month. A kilo of bread 4,30 euros. A kilo of fish (pollock) up to 7 euros, good fish up to 25 euros. Among Italians went suicide mania. They are not able to withstand all the hardships of this crisis. Well, we are people used to crises.
            1. atalef
              atalef 1 May 2014 00: 09
              0
              Quote: strannik.it
              Among Italians, suicide mania began. They are not able to withstand all the hardships of this crisis. Well, we are people who are used to crises.

              Was recently in Italy, if so they live during the crisis - damn what kind of life did they have before that?
              Normal prices, gasoline - believe me not the most expensive (in Norway and Denmark more expensive), on their Italian faces there was no pre-suicide expression, that's for sure.
              Do not listen to fairy tales, a trip yourself - you will see.
      2. oxotnuk86
        oxotnuk86 April 30 2014 10: 00
        +2
        With mattresses, he will daily report to the CIA about users.
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto April 30 2014 10: 28
          +5
          That's exactly what? The mattress covers are whipping for everybody, there are not one, not two, not three companies working closely with the NSA, and they haven’t worked, they do not consider themselves squeezed out! So why shouldn’t we ,? let our specialists cut contact. And then you saw what a mess there? Radicals of all stripes !!! fascists, radical Muslims, for some reason, some caliphates are urging them to create in Russia!?!? What the hell? We must also hold the defense. And then it turns out cool, the NSA will send everyone the US to defend itself against enemies, and if Putin wants to be in the know, this is the evil KGB regime.
          1. demon184
            demon184 April 30 2014 15: 51
            +1
            Yesterday in the news they said that the court ordered small windows to disclose all information about users, in the interests of the anb
          2. rereture
            rereture April 30 2014 17: 52
            +1
            So what an example to take from them? Monitor your own citizens? For a bunch of radicals to test 60 million people? Correctly evil Russians in VK are plotting against the creation of Russia, let's rake in all the Russians for 282 for any statement in VK, eh? After all, everyone knows that nothing will happen to people who want to build "caliphates", but the Russians who want to at least recognize themselves as the titular nation will get 282. You can be a Chechen nationalist, Tatar nationalist, Dagestan nationalist, but you can't be a Russian nationalist?

            By the way, our country is MONONATIONAL since there are more than 80% of Russians
      3. nizrum
        nizrum April 30 2014 10: 20
        +3
        We have to think about who to keep. Contact is a Facebook clone. A successful copy is nothing. And in general ... Social network is the same zombie creator, only advanced. They (social networks) are needed by the United States to collect data about people.
        So generally close them nafig !!!
        1. rereture
          rereture April 30 2014 18: 06
          -1
          As the saying goes, first get it. The concept may have been taken from facebook, but redesigned. It’s like PM a successful clone of Walter pp, Mosin’s rifle clone of Berdank’s, TT clone of Brown’s, and so on. Then all the achievements of the USSR are successful clones of anyone's developments.

          They (social networks) are needed by the United States to collect data about people.


          Yeah. The United States is guilty that so many Russians sit under article 282 in Russia.
      4. Common sense
        Common sense April 30 2014 11: 48
        +1
        Now in Russia there is already so much about zapadentsev that there is no other way but to close any sources of Western propaganda. But what to do ?, and who is easy now?
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      6. biznaw
        biznaw April 30 2014 19: 04
        +3
        Drop it ... we don’t have locksmiths or turners, but we can send hamsters like Durakov for export with bags.
        1. strannik.it
          strannik.it April 30 2014 23: 52
          +1
          Take with us, thousands of turners and locksmiths are sitting without work.
    2. sssla
      sssla April 30 2014 12: 50
      +7
      Quote: SarS
      Without the "Russian Zuckelberg" Russia is now "crazy

      The greatest economic difficulties await Russia after the closure of McDonald's in its territory laughing laughing laughing here only a smiley face can express my emotions
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 April 30 2014 08: 49
    +14
    "Russia's total external debt at the end of January amounted to $ 372 billion, and international foreign exchange reserves amount to $ 477 billion, but most of them may be frozen."

    Then the debt will also be frozen. Russia can live in complete encirclement, but the same EU will fall into the abyss. And do not scare us. Scared.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 April 30 2014 11: 22
      +2
      And to sell resources for gold, to give up the dollar, Iran is living.
      1. Nonik
        Nonik April 30 2014 22: 24
        0
        Quote: Igor39
        Iran is living.
        He lives poorly, only recently he has revived a little, oil has gone to Russia via barter.
    2. atalef
      atalef April 30 2014 21: 23
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      Then the debt will also be frozen. Russia can live in complete encirclement, but the same EU will fall into the abyss. And don't scare us. Scared

      Corporate debts (of Private business and especially state corporations) reach 600 billion. Do you think that if you do not pay the debt, will Gazprom’s assets be arrested abroad or not?
    3. strannik.it
      strannik.it April 30 2014 23: 55
      0
      Your truth! In Italy, the external debt is 2 trillion. 300 billion euro. So who whom?
    4. sergerz
      sergerz 1 May 2014 01: 20
      0
      In addition to foreign exchange reserves, we also have material resources - oil, gas, and other minerals. And they have cut paper. So where is the wealth, and where is its imitation?
    5. Igool
      Igool 1 May 2014 03: 20
      0
      Yeah, really fed up. Everyone, as they conspired, is poked in the nose with anti-Russian articles, and even if they show, as it were, a Russian orientation, then it is mandatory with a drift towards intimidation. Modern media, that western, that Russian, Ukrainian, etc. they are no longer knights of bias, but have long defended the point of view of their masters. Therefore, a modern person urgently needs a critical look at the events discussed by the press. The fact that all these sanctions do not achieve the desired result indicates only one thing: they are at a loss, do not keep up with events (do not forget that they also have many analytical departments), and we are on the right track
  9. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. April 30 2014 08: 50
    +5
    Kim Siegfeld also has some strange consultants, such as Gurevich, and char.
  10. Cosmos1987
    Cosmos1987 April 30 2014 08: 55
    +10
    S&P downgraded Russia's credit rating - that’s what the creditor is afraid of, Russia always repays debts. she has metals, oil, timber, gold, diamonds. the country is rich in mineral resources, so lenders can count on this really tangible, unlike Japan, where the debt is 300% of GDP and nya, these countries have an AAA rating, but they are not going to give anything away. Dollars are pieces of paper, it is easy to devalue them, after which all loans will turn into zero. so this agency is no more than grandma’s bedtime story. and this must be stated by Putin.
    1. grog_bm
      grog_bm April 30 2014 09: 56
      +2
      http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/1478595
      in this article by Khazin everything is normally described, and all that is said by the "expert" is his "expert" opinion and is it his ???))))) and in general it is an expert on what ???))) an expert on a hike in verbiage) ))
    2. atalef
      atalef April 30 2014 21: 26
      0
      Quote: Cosmos1987
      unlike Japan, where the debt is 300% of GDP and nya, these countries have an AAA rating, but they’re not going to give anything away

      Of course, I understand when they ship to the States (like they don’t produce anything) - but they hurried with Japan.
      Japanese cars - where are they made, or * Made in Japan * - have you ever seen?
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    4. strannik.it
      strannik.it April 30 2014 23: 58
      0
      Under the USSR, we did not know about a credit rating, etc., and we lived.
    5. Igool
      Igool 1 May 2014 03: 25
      0
      "S&P" - and the question will sound in a timely manner: "Who are the judges?" And an equally quick response is the American multinational corporation. Well, what did you want from the American campaign in such a situation? We continue to scare all those who were not afraid of travel bans ...
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 30 2014 08: 56
    +3
    The article is defeatist, the meaning suggests that it’s time for us to give up in order to survive, I have not read it!
    PROPAGANDA!
  12. voveim
    voveim April 30 2014 08: 59
    +3
    Another attempt to scare the hedgehog ... with his bare seat.
  13. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 30 2014 08: 59
    +2
    “American Thinker” - in fact, this newspaper usually has quite sensible authors, with a critical approach to the situation, of course, not without American specifics. There and Buchanan type, and some of the sane. And Kim Siegfeld plays the role of Ashton or Nuland (as you like) - a talking head without the shadow of his own thoughts.
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 30 2014 09: 01
    +1
    The US Treasury Secretary said the United States will keep in mind Vladimir Putin’s personal assets if he begins to invade Ukraine.

    This we will mean the shtatovskoe rabble. Their gut is thin against the GDP butting, and given the fact that it is a huge country, there is nothing for the mattresses to catch. And there will be some - we will help wake up Yellowstone.
  15. pv1005
    pv1005 April 30 2014 09: 05
    +1
    “But do we really want to destroy Russia so quickly?”

    That phrase says it all. These s ... k have one question, fast or slow.
  16. La-5
    La-5 April 30 2014 09: 06
    +1
    What a horror! Journalists and economic experts know how to create a panic.
  17. vass
    vass April 30 2014 09: 07
    +2
    It's so long to watch TV shows and hang out in the internet. They seem to have a genre crisis. When there is no concrete, then they puff up their noses at the top of the white man's house and, smearing themselves with snot and saliva, turn their groans to him, and to the rest of the verbal psi. Probably they think that at least something will come true and bring them a pretty penny in the future. For the dough, they write and quote each other. They create a "liquid and smelly information field" in which they splash with their own kind. Would be poor, you can forgive, but they are disguised and therefore it is better not to react. Nothing is better about such, both during life and after.
  18. Captainden
    Captainden April 30 2014 09: 08
    +6
    we smile and wave ... The screams, pseudo-analyzes and pseudo-predictions of our "partners" prove once again that we are going the right way. And regarding the theses of the "respected" author of the article, Kim Segfeld, I can give my comments:
    Ford is reducing its presence in Russia due to an outdated and expensive lineup, which has led to a rapid decline in sales since 2013. Hopes for local production of Focuses did not materialize amid strong competition from Asian manufacturers.
    about the crisis of 2008-2009 - as far as I know, it did not start with a fall in oil prices, but rather a consequence. The crisis has brought more damage to the USA and Europe as a whole. Recall Detroit and drink without clinking glasses.
  19. jura61
    jura61 April 30 2014 09: 09
    0
    Rave! Rave! and again nonsense! http://global-finances.ru/vneshniy-dolg-rossii-yanvar-2014/ the article talks about the total debt of Russia over 700 mln. dollar, bonds and other .... who will be worse?
  20. krot
    krot April 30 2014 09: 09
    +1
    Something is not clear with our external debt of $ 372 billion ??? It was believed that we repaid the loans. And are not our foreign exchange reserves located with us? Or am I not understanding something ????
  21. pensioner
    pensioner April 30 2014 09: 15
    +1
    what the US will keep in mind the personal assets of Vladimir Putin

    No. The problem is that GDP has long had you yes So: relax and try to have fun ... laughing
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 30 2014 09: 22
      +5
      Quote: retired
      So: relax and try to have fun ...


      ??
      1. pensioner
        pensioner April 30 2014 11: 47
        +2
        Something like that, yes ... yes
  22. pensioner
    pensioner April 30 2014 09: 20
    +2
    Putin consults on the Ukrainian issue almost exclusively with former KGB agents.

    I would give dearly, so that I could look at this powerful sight with at least one eye. Twenty-two people in identical suits, with black glasses and glued beards in one place rarely see ...
    Thanks to the author for a good article. hi
  23. Samurai3X
    Samurai3X April 30 2014 09: 22
    +4
    Oh yeah ... More g * vna, more inadequate ...
    Even if Russia "annexes" Ukraine, I doubt that huge troops will be required to somehow "hold" at least someone. They will simply be accommodated in the former Ukrainian bases and the population will breathe a sigh of relief.
    Apparently this schizophrenic absolutely does not know who the Ukrainians really are.
  24. Horst78
    Horst78 April 30 2014 09: 28
    +3
    Ahhh Chef everything is gone crying Scared lol we survived in perestroika and in 90x, and you
    Last week, Russia fell into an economic storm. Its stock market has staggered: it has lost more than 5% of its value.
    fool
  25. Enjoy
    Enjoy April 30 2014 09: 46
    +3
    Quote: air wolf
    There is only one way out of this situation - to begin the annexation of Alaska and everyone will forget about Ukraine and the Russian Crimea, and this is not an April Fool’s joke. And no war will be.
    And Faina Ivanovna from Leninogorsk was right, who asked Putin about this.

    Everything is easier. In response to the freezing of Russia's reserves, it will freeze all payments on its debts. Together with those of the lenders who cannot pay for gas in rubles, yuan, gold, uranium, technology ... Fly in, don’t skimp, buy heat in batteries!
  26. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 30 2014 09: 58
    +19
    stock market staggered: it lost more than 5% and on this wave, Russia bought back its assets much cheaper than they had before.

    international foreign exchange reserves amount to 477 billion dollars, but most of them can be frozen. cannot, because Russia also has on its hands the obligations of the same USA and European countries that we can present. Everything is mutual.

    force the Kremlin to spend billions to protect the value of stocks and the national currency. if Russia finds itself in a blockade, then we will not give a damn about the price of our shares, we will banally nationalize everything and dosvidos. By the way, Russia also has stakes in your large companies.

    “Face off with a NATO alliance, whose members have a combined GDP of ten times that of Russia and which spends ten times as much on military spending” Before the start of the Second World War, they reasoned in approximately the same way as those who later had to be identified by their teeth.

    however, the journalist believes, these polls do not reflect the public point of view just go to the stump with your point of view.

    Russia spends almost five times more on its armed forces (meaning the share of military spending in GDP) compared with the average member of NATO. so Russia alone, and you jackals huddled in a flock and barking in a crowd.

    Russia can not be attributed to highly developed countries probably this is why you fly into space on our rockets.

    already left the country and is not going to return. (Speech about P. Durov.) I would still take my "vkontaktek" with me, finally it would be a kravchik.

    Due to the fact that in the United States they enjoy the opinion of such "analysts", they sit in a puddle over and over again and only set against themselves all who have learned what they call the word democracy.
    1. Baikal
      Baikal April 30 2014 16: 48
      +3
      Excellent article robbery good
    2. atalef
      atalef April 30 2014 21: 35
      -1
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      the stock market staggered: it lost more than 5% and on this wave Russia bought out its assets much cheaper than they had before.

      Russia bought shares of private or state-owned companies sold on the stock exchange? AND? (I'm not saying that this is nonsense, but oh well) And tomorrow? If stocks sag again (which we are observing), what happens? That's right - we bought it at a high price, continue to buy - is it cheaper today and in the end? stocks of the sea, no money, but nobody wants to buy stocks.
      Result, bought paper for money. Have you ever invested in an exchange?

      Quote: Фкенщь13
      international foreign exchange reserves amount to 477 billion dollars, but most of them can be frozen. cannot, because Russia also has on its hands the obligations of the same USA and European countries that we can present. Everything is mutual

      These 477 billion of obligations and consist. How do you present obligations that are frozen?
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      force the Kremlin to spend billions to protect the value of stocks and the national currency. if Russia finds itself in a blockade, then we will not give a damn about the price of our shares, we will banally nationalize everything and dosvidos. By the way, Russia also has stakes in your large companies.

      Everything is absolutely right, Chavez did it - well, and as a result? Take an interest in life in Vinisuela
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      “To face off with the NATO alliance, whose members have a total GDP ten times more than Russia and which spends ten times more on military expenses” before the start of the Second World War, those who then had to identify on the teeth

      Why fight? The arms race can simply undermine the country's economy - this was already in the 80s
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      Russia spends almost five times more on its armed forces (meaning the share of military spending in GDP) compared with the average member of NATO. so Russia alone, and you jackals huddled in a flock and barking in a crowd

      Of course, only this fact does not cancel economic laws.
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      Russia can not be attributed to highly developed countries, probably because of this you are flying into space on our rockets.

      Well, do not distort.
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 10
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Result, bought paper for money. Have you ever invested in an exchange?
        They regained control over the assets. Any security is an abstraction, until the owner decides to "cash" it in any way does not affect the economic activity of the enterprise. Even if they are devalued to zero, the physical assets will remain and work. And in a specific case, "capital flight" is compensated by the state, and until the state sold these securities, it did not lose a penny.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 14
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Returned control over assets. Any security is an abstraction.

          In general, money is the same security, and stocks - this is not an abstraction - but the equivalent and obligation.

          Quote: Фкенщь13
          until the owner decided to "cash out" it does not in any way affect the economic activities of the enterprise

          It also affects how. Both in determining the value of the enterprise and in the number of shares at your disposal - the right to vote or own the company
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Even if they depreciate to zero, physical assets will remain and will work

          If the stock depreciates to zero, it is bankruptcy and nothing will work anymore. any owner of the share simply by demanding his part - will tear this company as an ace heating pad
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          And in a specific case, "capital flight" is compensated by the state

          How ?
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          and until the state sold these papers, it did not lose a dime.

          You yourself said that stocks are fiction? Or when they are in the hands of the state - this is cool and these are assets, and when in the hands of an individual - sucks and does not play a role --- figure it out with yourself.
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 01: 35
            0
            Quote: atalef
            money is the same security
            How is it? There is a Maasa of definitions for money, but this is just a measure of value, the most liquid asset.


            Quote: atalef
            to vote or own the business
            Not all securities give the right to vote, there are many of them in general, and the controlling body, and not the holder of the paper, can somehow influence it, although it all depends on the Charter, etc., but in general it is.

            Quote: atalef
            it's bankruptcy and ...
            How is it? Bankruptcy is not the ability to meet obligations, and if the holder does not show, then the company will continue to work. The price of paper is just the specific price of a particular paper. No more, no less, the rest of the lyrics and how it turns there is not clear.

            Quote: atalef
            How ?

            Quote: atalef
            - deal with yourself.
            The issuer bought out its papers. What is not clear here? At one time, the state conducted an emission, now it has bought back and may no longer sell at all under any circumstances. Do not confuse with speculative transactions.
            1. atalef
              atalef 1 May 2014 06: 49
              0
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              Not all securities give voting rights,

              All shares give you the right to vote, there is simply no such thing in the world (as a Russian acquisition) called privileged shares.
              In the world, your vote is commensurate with the number of your shares (in%), but each holder has it
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              Bankruptcy is not the ability to meet obligations,

              and falling stocks to zero is what?
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              and if the holder does not show, then the company will continue to work.

              But does this happen? don't fantasize
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              The issuer bought out its papers. What is not clear here? At one time, the state conducted an emission, now it has bought back and may no longer sell at all under any circumstances

              in this case, it is nationalization. for God's sake - just tell me, when a state redeems a company, say an enterprise (or rather its shares) - does the owner change or not?
              1. FunkschNNX
                FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 14: 05
                0
                Quote: atalef
                All promotions give you a vote
                I do not know what securities are included in that package, whether only shares, including bonds, or bills, or something else.
              2. FunkschNNX
                FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 14: 18
                0
                Quote: atalef
                and falling stocks to zero is what?
                This is just a drop in the price of the paper itself.
                Yes, the state has more shares in its hands, their price has decreased, so what? All tangible assets as they were and remained, enterprises as they worked and will work; for their business activities this step did not cause any damage. If anyone was hurt, it was speculators and hedgers who didn’t sag a lot, but these are their problems, they don’t feel sorry for them.
      2. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 19
        0
        Quote: atalef
        How do you present obligations that are frozen?

        Assets can be frozen, how can liabilities be frozen ??? Those. the issuer will refuse to redeem his own securities ??? But the US issuer, if they refuse, it will mean that they are bankrupt.
        You probably didn’t understand correctly, I meant that not only Russia has financial obligations to the West, but the West to Russia has similar obligations. Russia is certainly not the largest holder, but still any demand for debt is painful, and not the execution of a serious damage to the reputation.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 21
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Assets can be frozen, how can liabilities be frozen ???

          Elementary, GKO of America are the same liquid assets. By banning transactions, you simply cannot sell them.
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Those. the issuer will refuse to redeem his own securities ???

          Of course not, you just can’t put them up for auction
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          You probably didn’t understand correctly, I meant that not only Russia has financial obligations to the West, but the West to Russia has similar obligations

          Not similar, the West has much less obligation. T-bills of America are practically sold, it remains - bucks and euros. A ban on transactions (which of course will not) - can be put in an uncomfortable position, but why? Russia owes the West much more than it owes Russia. Let him pay - it suits everyone. Why block the way to return debts. (if we talk about Russia as a country) well, private traders (banks and corporations) - there is room for activity.
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Russia is certainly not the largest holder, but still any demand for debt is painful, and not the execution of a serious damage to the reputation.

          Russia dropped T-bills a month ago, more than 100bn .-- as a result? They were immediately sold out and this had no effect on the dollar or the American banking system.
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 01: 42
            0
            Quote: atalef
            By banning transactions, you simply cannot sell them.
            Quote: atalef
            Of course not, you just can’t put them up for auction
            Maturities should be provided for bonds, and if the US does not buy them back, this will be the reason for bankruptcy.

            Quote: atalef
            Russia owes the West much more than it owes Russia.
            enough and not a large number of failures for which everyone else will devalue.

            Quote: atalef
            -- as a result ?
            it all depends on what they got rid of. Maybe just to have the funds to buy back its own obligations, maybe the USA itself has been paid off. I don’t know, they don’t dedicate me to such matters :-)
      3. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 23
        0
        Quote: atalef
        stocks of the sea, no money, but nobody wants to buy stocks.
        Reason as a speculator. For an issuer repurchasing its own shares, this is not a question at all.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 27
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Quote: atalef
          stocks of the sea, no money, but nobody wants to buy stocks.
          Reason as a speculator. For an issuer repurchasing its own shares, this is not a question at all.

          Of course, I have been on the stock exchange for a long time and I know what it is about. Not every game on stocks is speculation. Only stocks related to the garbage category, but here either pan or disappeared.
          In general, there is no one-goal game on the exchange
          As for the repurchase of own shares - this is done only in two cases
          When enterprise management wants to take in one hand (anyone)
          Or in the fall, to slow down the collapse and bankruptcy. As a rule, this is fraught with huge problems - such as
          1. Entering the game a large number of speculators playing for a fall (pool-put)
          2. listing on the stock exchange of liquid assets (roughly speaking money to buy)
          3. Lowering the credit rating with all the negative consequences.
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 01: 50
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            Quote: atalef
            this is done only in two cases

            I believe that it was precisely to strengthen our positions in management that there was a buyback. By the fact that somehow everything happened in a timely manner: Crimea ... redemption of obligations. It’s as if Rosimushchestvo (or who the holder is now) prepared for earlier, in Russia they rarely react so quickly :-)
      4. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 27
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        Quote: atalef
        Well, and as a result?

        It all depends on the specific situation. It turns out to manage assets properly and break into alternative markets - the result will be positive. Mediocre we frown on the fallen happiness - we will suck on a paw.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 33
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Quote: atalef
          Well, and as a result?

          It all depends on the specific situation. It turns out to manage assets properly and break into alternative markets - the result will be positive. Mediocre we frown on the fallen happiness - we will suck on a paw.

          The state cannot properly manage assets - a priori. Still this was not because in the end - the state - these are separate officials - and for that they are not responsible for anything.
          Look how much the debts of state corporations have grown, despite the fact that almost everyone pays a minimum of taxes
          Do you call happiness - State corporations? Can you give an example of the effectiveness of this structure?
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 01: 53
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            Quote: atalef
            Can you give an example of the effectiveness of this structure?
            All state-owned corporations are owned and controlled by the state, not 100% everywhere (or maybe not anywhere), but control yes.
        2. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 33
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Quote: atalef
          Well, and as a result?

          It all depends on the specific situation. It turns out to manage assets properly and break into alternative markets - the result will be positive. Mediocre we frown on the fallen happiness - we will suck on a paw.

          The state cannot properly manage assets - a priori. Still this was not because in the end - the state - these are separate officials - and for that they are not responsible for anything.
          Look how much the debts of state corporations have grown, despite the fact that almost everyone pays a minimum of taxes
          Do you call happiness - State corporations? Can you give an example of the effectiveness of this structure?
      5. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 37
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        Quote: atalef
        Why fight?
        The question is of course interesting, but not at the address.
        After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia did not pose any military or political threat to anyone, not at all; in geopolitical terms, it was complete zero. However, NATO did not reduce its military capabilities, on the contrary, they only strengthened and expanded. And now they have already absorbed the Balts (and x ... with them) and opened their mouths to what seemed to always be our relatives, to Ukraine. So who is the "outrageous" and provocateur of the arms race in this courtyard?
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 36
          0
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          So who is the "outrageous" and provocateur of the arms race in this courtyard?

          What’s the difference in general?
          The result is important.
          The arms race could be held on a small twinkle, but someone decided to add GAS and the result.
          It will be interesting
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      6. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 43
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        Quote: atalef
        Of course, only this fact does not cancel economic laws.
        I agree, this is a disaster. Not only ours, but all this not perfect world, seriously. I am often terrified of how we (people) are ineptly spending our lives and invaluable resources. If there weren’t a warrior and crazy arms races, we (people) would probably have long ago left our cradle of the Earth and plowed the expanses of the universe outside our galaxy. But life makes its own adjustments and we have to compete with them, and they with us :-(
      7. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 30 2014 23: 51
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        Quote: atalef
        Well, do not distort.
        De facto, Russia is carrying NASA into orbit on Russian rockets; Russia is the leader in commercial launches.
        It is not clear what this aunt’s measure of Russia's development was in general; if by technical standards, then she is clearly not right.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 00: 42
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          Quote: Фкенщь13
          De facto, Russia is carrying NASA into orbit on Russian rockets; Russia is the leader in commercial launches.

          the presence of a carrier rocket does not mean leadership in space exploration.
          America is not profitable now to keep their missiles. There is a cheap and reliable carrier. And now all their forces are thrown on a completely new type of ships and engines.
          For a glass of milk - do not contain a cow.
          You use a taxi (or public transport) - although by your logic it would be right for each family member to buy a car.
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 1 May 2014 01: 58
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            Quote: atalef
            There is a cheap and reliable carrier.
            Theirs were still cheaper b. And to work - let it work, I’m working, we’ll see who will work better, it is possible that we will also begging (or stealing) their missiles from the states, life will show.
            1. atalef
              atalef 1 May 2014 06: 53
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              Quote: Фкенщь13
              Theirs were still cheaper b.

              not a fact
      8. Igool
        Igool 1 May 2014 03: 59
        +2
        There is only one thing to all your objections, but you are disingenuous in every answer. Yes, they have rational grain, but it is in such a sauce that it is reluctant to look for it there.

        That's right - we bought it at a high price, continue to buy - is it cheaper today and in the end?

        No, knowing in advance about the upcoming events, there was almost 100% confidence in the subsidence of the market, therefore, at a higher price, part of the shares was sold, with a subsidence, it was bought. As a result, a positive balance.

        These 477 billion of obligations and consist.

        Firstly, there is no such thing as international currency reserves. There are foreign exchange reserves (international reserves or official reserves) - external highly liquid assets, presented in the form foreign currency и Gold, special drawing rights (SDR), reserve positions in the IMF and other highly liquid financial assets that are controlled by state monetary authorities and at any time can be used to finance the balance of payments deficit, for interventions in the foreign exchange markets that affect national currency rate, or for similar purposes.

        Gold and foreign exchange reserves of Russia are at the disposal of the Central Bank and the Government of the Russian Federation and can be used to finance the balance of payments deficit, interventions in the foreign exchange markets or for other purposes in the interests of the state.
        Chavez did it

        Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Two different economies, differently oriented countries. For each country, with the same actions, completely different consequences ensue. Do not exaggerate or dissemble.

        The arms race can simply undermine the country's economy - this was already in the 80s

        And again you are cunning. The country's economy was not undermined by an arms race, but not by a balanced use of the resources available to the USSR. I warn in advance that resources are understood not only as raw materials.

        on this you fly into space on our rockets.
        Well, do not distort.

        Why, so, and immediately distort ... Again, a good citizen, you are cunning or from a lack of information (not an excuse, google to help) or for some other reason (which is most obvious). Here I don’t even want to answer, because these answers are well known: starting with our ships, ending with the use of engines purchased from Russia.
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 May 2014 07: 01
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          Quote: Igool
          No, knowing in advance about the upcoming events, there was almost 100% confidence in the subsidence of the market, therefore, at a higher price, part of the shares was sold, with a subsidence, it was bought. As a result, a positive balance.

          Do you know what insider information is? And what is the punishment for using it?
          So, one of the reasons for such a monstrous outflow of capital from the Russian Exchange is precisely because investors realized that they played against them not fair, but just robbed.
          60 billion fled, by the end of the year 100 billion will run away. Niodin, a self-respecting investor, will not invest in the exchange, where no one is honestly playing against him. All over the world, people go straight to jail for such things.
          Therefore, a one-time win caused such damage to the reputation that all winnings were long lost. During this time, the stock exchange in Russia sank much more

          Quote: Igool
          Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Two different economies, differently oriented countries

          And what is the difference?
          Quote: Igool
          And again you are cunning. The country's economy was not undermined by an arms race, but not by a balanced use of the resources available to the USSR. I warn you in advance that resources are understood not only as raw materials

          He said beautifully, but empty. Expand the meaning?
    3. Igool
      Igool 1 May 2014 03: 31
      +3
      The answer is incredibly simple and was given to us a long time ago.
  27. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya April 30 2014 09: 59
    +4
    Well, where do such fools who call themselves "experts" of Russia and its economy come from? In 1941, Hitler possessed all the economic potential of Europe, received economic and financial assistance from the Anglo-Saxons, and what, where is Hitler and his "henchmen"? Then the same ----- yelled that the USSR would not hold out even two weeks, held out and noted in Berlin. What is today's NATO, but nothing worthwhile, either economically or militarily, in a word, slaves of American imperialism. And which of the slaves, warriors, everyone knows, they don't become heroes for money. And how she fluffed herself up speaking about the public opinion of the citizens of Russia, but nothing that we live in Russia and we do not need to "snatch" incompetent libel, as the ultimate truth, we ourselves, as they say, "with a mustache" and you are not stupid to try to teach us!
  28. targitai
    targitai April 30 2014 10: 04
    0
    How they got it with their soap economy, rating agencies and other nonsense. The schizos will play out. If Russia announces sanctions to them all, will they eat their papers? Warm home with futures and abligations? We will live without them, and they will rest without us. We need a new slogan "stop feeding the west!"
  29. nicollider
    nicollider April 30 2014 10: 06
    0
    Kg / am, as always, the coalitions rule, and the ones cited in the article are ours, and it would be nice for Mr. Aslund to look at the debt / reserve ratio of his country
  30. papont64
    papont64 April 30 2014 10: 11
    +1
    We should not get involved in armed conflict, help in every possible way, yes. If the east has forces, then with our help they will rake themselves.
  31. todaygoodday
    todaygoodday April 30 2014 10: 11
    +4
    If our enemies criticize us, then we are doing everything right. ©
    1. Igool
      Igool 1 May 2014 04: 11
      +3
      I also noticed long ago that the more loyal foreign countries are to our country, it means that we are making an irreparable mistake. Examples of this can be: Gorbachev, the United States was delighted: "our Gorby" That's certainly yours. Yeltsin, too, America was wow from him, only occasionally allowed himself to scold: they say ay ay ay, but how did the Airborne Forces get here? And only when heated discussion and attacks on our decisions flare up, then everything is in order. We are on the right path, defend our interests and, as a result, have pinched the tail of some of our "friends" - enemies.
  32. Draz
    Draz April 30 2014 10: 12
    0
    Journalist storyteller negative
  33. Ivan Victory
    Ivan Victory April 30 2014 10: 14
    +1
    Kim Siegfeld Clinical Russophobia. The fact that she spills out is a reference nonsense, in which Russophobes from all over the world firmly believe. She is the lighthouse that illuminates their path.
  34. oxotnuk86
    oxotnuk86 April 30 2014 10: 17
    0
    Quote: Enjoy
    Everything is easier. In response to the freezing of Russia's reserves, it will freeze all payments on its debts. Together with those of the lenders who cannot pay for gas in rubles, yuan, gold, uranium, technology ... Fly in, do not skimp, buy heat in batteries! [/ Quote

    But this should not be done undemocratic. Only mattresses can do this.
  35. foma2028
    foma2028 April 30 2014 10: 27
    +7
    The handshake system of non-living dissidents L.N. Sharansky

    Politikus.ru
    1. atalef
      atalef April 30 2014 21: 37
      -2
      Quote: foma2028
      The handshake system of non-living dissidents L.N. Sharansky

      And why the face of Solzhenitsyn?
      1. Igool
        Igool 1 May 2014 04: 15
        0
        That already doubles have prevented you. All that you have a claim, all that you do not like. Well, from one person they are, well, what can I do. Mother Nature decreed that.
  36. Syrdon
    Syrdon April 30 2014 10: 34
    +2
    pronounced Russophobian hysterical cry, even a cry. Russia lived, lives and will live self-sufficient. Russia doesn’t give a damn about ratings and other agencies that are fictitious and sitting on sn at the State Department. Russia, if this bacchanalia continues, can simply say goodbye to everyone and stop - supply gas, pay off debts, supply dviglo for missiles and, for universal Western mustache, send troops to Ukraine, the Baltic states and Central Asia, declaring them occupied as a result of Western aggression 90 territories.
  37. shaman-25rus
    shaman-25rus April 30 2014 10: 35
    +3
    I HAVE THE OPINION OF THE HORSE RIDE. unlike "democratic" America and "liberal" Europe, Russians are capable of giving up their last shirt and a piece of bread for the sake of TRUTH. Let them consider themselves, like many "bookkeepers" of the past. in Russia there is such a resource as "Russian Soul". so, this resource is truly inexhaustible.
  38. Timmir
    Timmir April 30 2014 10: 38
    +9
    In Russia, the more difficulties, the stronger Russia. Russia kills, easy life and stagnation.
  39. larand
    larand April 30 2014 10: 42
    +5
    here Kim Siegfeld came and said - you are all fools, only I know the truth about Russia.
  40. Wedmak
    Wedmak April 30 2014 10: 44
    +1
    The clinical picture continues to deteriorate. Patients, it seems, will no longer recover, they can only put them to sleep.
    Considering their "sanctions", Russia should already freeze a couple of American contracts. For example, reduce the supply of titanium and RD-180. Let them melt their titanium and fly on their engines.
  41. Auralski
    Auralski April 30 2014 10: 55
    +10
    McDonald's closed in Crimea.
    Everything is gone, you have to give up! recourse
    1. teron
      teron April 30 2014 11: 56
      +2
      AA-aaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!! Catastrophe!!! Now let's bend!
  42. yulka2980
    yulka2980 April 30 2014 10: 56
    0
    What are they idiots! It’s true they say that for a Western person, the Russian soul is dark! If they do not understand why Putin is silent or why we are fighting for the Russians in Ukraine, then these are their problems, not ours. in relation to the country's GDP, then let them look at the US debts, all the more you don't have to go far, they have them posted right on the street! America is a country that generally exists only in virtual reality, because it receives loans only thanks to the US brand "! am
  43. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus April 30 2014 11: 09
    +1
    Quote: “But do we really wish so !!! FAST !!! destroy Russia? ” excuse the moderators but it's just ........ how to eat. At the end, they said directly and to the whole world soldier
  44. Seamaster
    Seamaster April 30 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Translations of the article of this psushushka are published periodically on inosmi.ru.
    Babenka is considered the most stupidly Russophobic of all Western authors.
    The people cite her opuses as jokes.
    And neigh.
  45. Fiero
    Fiero April 30 2014 11: 23
    +1
    A KGB agent named "Tanned" embedded in the White House laughing
    1. mpa945
      mpa945 April 30 2014 17: 22
      0
      I put a lot on epaulettes. The maximum is a lieutenant colonel. Because, as a colonel, you yourself know who. laughing
    2. biznaw
      biznaw April 30 2014 19: 11
      0
      I'm afraid to even ask what rank the "tanned" major four times or something ...
      1. Fiero
        Fiero April 30 2014 21: 54
        0
        this is already in the states to be recognized :)
  46. Seamaster
    Seamaster April 30 2014 11: 27
    0
    The amendment is not "articles" but "articles".
    And, by the way, the name of this site (this is NOT a printed edition), has long been renamed "Sphincter".
  47. qwert
    qwert April 30 2014 11: 27
    +2
    Of course, I want to tear Europe and the United States so that they don’t yap .... But, politics is politics, and as it seems at the everyday level, take Tanks to Kiev and give Yaytsenyuk a fist in the face, it is unlikely to be decided by the government . Politics is a science. Like the same mathematics, and few of us sitting at the table decide differential uroshenii, for the sake of pleasure and expression of our emotions. Because many people do not know, there are different rules for solving different derivatives, differentials and other things. There is no that knowledge base. And here we do not know many pitfalls.
    And no matter how patriotic I am, I at least admit that the state of our army is not to tear NATO to pieces. I would be glad if someone convinces me. Chesslovo, I will be glad.
    And second, who do you think has influence on the country's leadership? Hard workers? Office plankton? Or are the oligarchs still? And now another question, and our desires and Wishlist coincide with those of the oligarchs?
    That's it. And to cheer, it’s good, but not always appropriate.
    1. Signaller
      Signaller April 30 2014 16: 28
      +1
      And who will ask the oligarchs ???? That's the question. They are already stupefied by this. They don’t know how to behave. Indeed, before nationalization, there is not much time to wait. And then you don’t hide the loot there, behind the cordon ??? Sanctions. Putin is very clever. Sanctions. Grandmas not to send to the west, but here people want to take in their arms ..
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  48. chastener
    chastener April 30 2014 11: 28
    +1
    McDonald's closed in Crimea. (from)
    How to live further?
    crying
    1. ed65b
      ed65b April 30 2014 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: Punisher
      McDonald's closed in Crimea. (from)
      How to live further?
      crying

      Everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves.
  49. teron
    teron April 30 2014 11: 44
    +1
    According to Aslund, Putin consults on the Ukrainian issue almost exclusively with former KGB agents. Putin does not have a single adviser who can competently assess the economic consequences of military action. Just as was the case in Soviet times, Putin does not participate in discussions, but rather makes decisions in the form of “dictatorial decrees.”

    Expert thinks in cliches. Guru of the economy!
  50. teron
    teron April 30 2014 11: 52
    +1
    Putin stated that, according to public opinion polls, Russia strongly supported the “seizure of Ukraine”, however, the journalist believes that these polls do not reflect the public point of view: after all, the public was not properly informed about the possible economic consequences of the invasion.

    No, well, some journalist across the ocean knows exactly how Russians relate to the policies pursued by the country's leadership. They think in stamps, they say in stamps and believe in these stamps.