Ukraine, Russia and the EU will discuss the gas problem in Warsaw

As the Interfax-UkraineYuriy Prodan, Ukraine’s Energy Minister, agreed to hold a tripartite meeting on gas issues on 2 in May this year, in which Russia and the European Union will also participate.

“A member of the European Commission on Energy, Ettinger, was in contact with the Ukrainian Minister of Energy Prodan, who agreed in principle with the date and venue of such a meeting,” said the press service of Gunther Oettinger, a member of the European Commission on Energy.

“Interfax” notes that in the evening of April 28 a telephone conversation took place between Gunther Oettinger and the Minister of Energy of Russia Alexander Novak, during which they discussed the issue of gas supplies to the EU countries and Ukraine, as well as holding a trilateral meeting on this issue. EC spokeswoman Sabine Berger announced that the meeting could take place on May 2 in Warsaw, if the Minister of Ukraine is satisfied with the date and place.

In mid-April, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he said that the EC was ready for tripartite consultations with the Russian Federation and Ukraine.

“The proposed consultations should help avoid an extreme scenario and ensure security of supplies and transit, while at the same time creating the necessary conditions for structured cooperation, including, in particular, on the modernization of Ukraine’s gas transportation system,” Barroso said in a letter.

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[Validator]

Disable all business. Power will change - turn on

[afire]

Yeah...
Interessno turns out yes?
Gazprom is obliged to keep deliveries to Europe through the same pipe as gas for Ukraine, but as far as I remember, the last days of freebies for Ukraine pass, it turns out that gas will be transited only for Europe (I remind you that transit through Ukraine has been prepaid for a long time).
And what will happen - Ukraine will continue to take away (in fact already steal) gas destined for Europe, and we - are obliged to supply gas to Europe from Europe by contract.
I think they will begin to blame us immediately for short deliveries ...
Also, Europeans didn’t really respond to the GDP letter ...
well, let them now burn with firewood .... themselves are to blame

[VNP1958PVN]

At the exit there is a counter, at the entrance there is a counter. Let them look for leakage - "it's not the Ukrainians who steal," "honestly."

[GDP]

have already done so. All the same, the Ukrainians were stealing gas, but the Europeans did not say a word to Ukraine - "we will pay as much as they put on our meter, and we are not interested in transit problems, theft of Ukraine is a problem of Russia" - something like that they said last time.

Moreover, they specifically put sticks in the wheels of the southern stream, so that we again subsidized the Ukrainian economy with our money.

[igor_m_p]

Bulgaria has already said about the southern stream that it will continue its work regardless of sanctions and other things, namely, the Bulgarian section should be connected to ours, so UP will not go anywhere, we’ll build it.
Well, about "paying by meter" - it's not so simple, last time they finally agreed that this is not only our problem. Well, in the most extreme case - we can switch to prepayment with them too ...

[jjj]

Last week, Barroso stated that Ukraine was not shaken by Ukrainian gas theft. According to him, Russia is in any case obliged to deliver the contracted quantity to Europe, otherwise it will be considered an unreliable supplier. To which our responded: delivery is delivery, transit is transit, control the transit yourself. And, apparently, the concept of the situation is starting to reach Europe. As far as we will find out about this, 2 of May

[igor_m_p]

In Europe, they’re not yet used to being dunked like a kitten into their own puddle, but in the end even cats learn, and it seems that they too have begun to reach slowly ... Although I can say for sure that at home the cat is much more trained .

[maximus235]

And who is Barroso? It has nothing to do with gas or its customers. Let him say what he wants.

[mamont5]

Quote: GDP

All the same, the Ukrainians were stealing gas, but the Europeans did not say a word to Ukraine - "we will pay as much as they put on our meter, and we are not interested in transit problems, theft of Ukraine is a problem of Russia" - something like that they said last time.

So they will discuss these issues. Now is not the right time for us to look around, no matter how angry the EU is.

[tasey]

Now, not now. How many of the outskirts "shake out", then they will have.

[VAF]

Quote: afire

well, let them now burn with firewood .... themselves are to blame

With such a POLICY, rather we will heat wood. than they

[Denis]

Quote: Validator

Power will change - turn on

[zanoza]

There will be a conversation "I don't understand you ...". The EU will say that we must supply them no matter what, and Ukraine is not to blame for anything, it was Russia that brought them ... If we turn off the gas, they will impose yet another sanction on the offense. Khokhlohapugi will be afraid of not repaying the debt and in general, neither at the old, nor at new prices, nor at a discount on gas, nor without it, will not pay. Why? They won’t be there! They don’t like to pay mos-kalam ...
Those. these two "partners" will put forward any absurd demands and insist on the fulfillment of contracts by Russia, just not to pay the bills and continue to violate contractual agreements themselves.

[Validator]

Top level negotiations

[Orik]

You flatter her, she’s almost a grandmother ...

[major071]

EC spokeswoman Sabine Berger said that this meeting could be held on May 2 in Warsaw, if the Minister of Ukraine arranges the date and place.

Wow! It turns out that His Majesty Minister Prodan should also arrange a place with a date? Complete bankrupt and zero dictates his will? Most likely it will be sitting outside the doors while serious uncles are talking.

[VAF]

Quote: major071

Wow! It turns out that His Majesty Minister Prodan should also arrange a place with a date?

What do you want? How we delivered ourselves. and especially as we are behaving now ..only a lazy nail does not wipe

[Lord of the Sith]

That's just the topic of the global economy.

RMB in the picture and open to enlarge.

[platitsyn70]

offer gas at the current price of 486,5 per 1000m3 if today they don’t take 500 tomorrow, and after tomorrow even more expensive fines, lost profits, etc.

[ale-x]

Sorry, dear, but where do we all have RMBs from? We are peaceful people) We do not hold cronies.

[Little Muck]

Quote: Validator

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And it's also time to take "a whiff of fright" from them.

[120352]

What for? We have no gas problems, what is there to discuss! Whoever has problems, let him discuss: Ukraine and the EU. Winter will come. not discuss, but they will beg. Only, I am afraid, prices can rise very much by then!

[RND]

Quote: Validator

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[svp67]

“A member of the European Commission on Energy, Ettinger, was in contact with the Ukrainian Minister of Energy Prodan, who agreed in principle with the date and venue of such a meeting,” said the press service of Gunther Oettinger, a member of the European Commission on Energy.

Well, another "front" of the struggle has opened.
I wish Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak good luck and firmness, and the same ability to "communicate" with his partners as his colleague - Sergei Lavrov

[Little Muck]

In mid-April, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he said that the EC was ready for tripartite consultations with the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
I think it’s time to publicly omit this cheater in the style of Lavrov, "Who is this?" towards the representative of Ukraine in Geneva.
And generally pose "drinking deer" all this murmur is Euro-Ukrainian.

[97110]

[quote = svp67] [quote
I wish the Ministerу Alexanderohm Novakohm [/ Quote]
Dear, how is it?

[Roman1970]

But there are no problems with gas ... Problems with the insolvency of Ukraine. We need to discuss who will give her money ...

[Orik]

Quote: Roman1970

But there are no problems with gas ... Problems with the insolvency of Ukraine. We need to discuss who will give her money ...

Whoever danced the girl on the Maidan, let him give ...

[rasputin17]

I'm afraid that this naive farmer was once again thrown !!

[AVIATOR36662]

If the farmer is Tymoshenko, then throwing her away is problematic. Behind her (her party) the majority in the Rada is the only partially legitimate body in Kiev. Actually, she is now No. 1 in the country, not I.O. or Yatsenyuk with Poroshenko and Kolomoisky. In any case, she comes out of the water dry. She wasn’t, she wasn’t, she didn’t finance!

[es.d]

Quote: AVIATOR36662

If the farmer is Tymoshenko, then throwing her is problematic.

Yatsenyuk has been vigorously promoting the curtailment of the president's powers. The President becomes the "wedding general". Why does Tymoshenko need this post? She needs Power! He can become a prime minister, or even remain a "conscience of the nation" - a "gray cardinal". The second - it is unlikely, how she will live without the public and visible confirmation of POWER.

[GDP]

But there are no problems with gas ... Problems with the insolvency of Ukraine. We need to discuss who will give her money ...

IMF will give Ukraine a loan for 17 mlr

[vadimalehin76]

Well, shy, stop stirring up the water in Ukraine. And maybe we will politely talk with you

[Green]

Cut off their gas, let their beloved Europeans gass

[Validator]

Also an option. They know how to make matches

[sniper]

Quote: Validator

. They know how to make matches

They have the same thing with the forest is not ice ....

[lukke]

Quote: Validator

. They know how to make matches

They have the same thing with the forest is not ice ....

But before x..i tires

[Lukich]

yes buy this gas transportation system for debts. anyway, on the outskirts there is no money for its modernization and repair

[Flinky]

No longer redeeming, the sashka is promised, if not mistaken.

[EvgenSuslov]

Already offered more than once. Current, what a reasonable embezzler himself will give such a feeder.

[smart Fox]

but I read somewhere that the gas transportation system of Ukraine is very dilapidated and requires huge investments for reconstruction. I won’t lie about money, but it will take 16 years to reconstruct it. Count for yourself. Cheaper to build new GTS. how to upgrade this junk

[jjj]

South Stream turns out to be more profitable in all respects

[aleks 62]

... don't sell ur..y ....

[Chifka]

"I agreed", look ... I was showing off more .... It is time for them not to agree on gas supplies, but on supplies of firewood and stoves. And warm blankets with felt boots for the coming winter. And for his "army" as well. And then their warriors, like the Fritzes near Moscow, will wrap themselves in handkerchiefs. If they live, of course, until winter

[bmv04636]

and whether to make a march and thereby ensure the security of the supply to the Hazah of the Heypop, and for one, to ensure the supply of water to the Crimea

[JIaIIoTb]

First, debt repayment, negotiations after.

[valday]

What is there to discuss? We need to look for alternative options for gas supplies to Europe, and Ukraine should be turned off.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It's too late to come to an agreement .. "Money in the morning chairs in the evening" We warned .. And now here's something like this!

[Orik]

However, I doubt the productivity of these negotiations. The main reason is the adequacy of dill. Europe, in turn, does not want to pay for the wards. Export is important to us, if we proceed from Putin's words, then we get 192 lard from oil exports, and 29 lard a year from gas exports, the loss of a third (and a third of gas before the launch of the UP we can only export through Ukraine) gas exports cost almost 10 lard per year, a very significant loss for our "dying" economy. Those who are happy with everything are pi.ndosov.

[gandalf]

It is easy to level.
Just enough saythat the missing 10 lards will be taken from gold reserves.
There lies 700 billion ... enough for 70 years

those. we will take part of the tribute back. The truth will have to wrestle with the Central Bank ...
This is not state money, and not Central Bank money, it’s their money.

[Orik]

Quote: gandalf

It is easy to level.
Just enough saythat the missing 10 lards will be taken from gold reserves.
There lies 700 billion ... enough for 70 years

those. we will take part of the tribute back. The truth will have to wrestle with the Central Bank ...
This is not state money, and not Central Bank money, it’s their money.

We’ll take it, but I don’t want to lose 10 lards ... On the other hand, it’s basically impossible to feed dill.

[aleks 62]

.... As an option, then recover from Vuikaina for lost profits, etc ....

[Orik]

Quote: aleks 62

.... As an option, then recover from Vuikaina for lost profits, etc ....

That's just to recover ... Dill actual bankrupt, and about 90% of the debt belongs to the United States.

[Alex_sw4]

And how much does Europe pay for gas? And since when has the buyer set the price of the goods to the manufacturer?

[Orik]

Everyone pays differently, here the price of Ukraine, taking into account the Kharkov discount.

[rasputin17]

Belarus has the most interesting position !!)) Interestingly, what is the actual payment for it ??))

[Jrvin]

Brothers and do not mind free;) I wonder another why the UK pays so little?

[Gagarin]

In my opinion, a turning point is approaching.
It was at this meeting that Russia can confidently dictate its conditions, but not - to go home, and let Europe itself execute the Kiev shobla according to all the laws of the economy.
Although Europe, if it wants, may at its own expense contain loafers.

[Orik]

Quote: Gagarin

In my opinion, a turning point is approaching.
It was at this meeting that Russia can confidently dictate its conditions, but not - to go home, and let Europe itself execute the Kiev shobla according to all the laws of the economy.
Although Europe, if it wants, may at its own expense contain loafers.

It’s easy to be principled on the forum, but life is more complicated. If you left the market (European), then you can not return it.

[aleks 62]

... I don’t think ... Replace in the next 5-6 years does not work ...

[Orik]

Quote: aleks 62

... I don’t think ... Replace in the next 5-6 years does not work ...

They, too, can go on principle and ... buy liquefied gas more expensive in the amount of short supply, in fact, there is nothing left for them to cut off the supply. Especially the United States crushes.

[AVIATOR36662]

So, after 2017, the United States promises a lot of liquefied gas. And before 2017, somehow it’s necessary to spin without the USA. The USA cannot really help the junta, and they don’t want to have an extra headache from Russia through their problems. Sometimes you have to lose with a normal face.

[xbhxbr-777]

That's right! The main thing is that Russia does not yield again, otherwise it will be insulting!

[Allegedly]

Quote: Gagarin

execute Kiev shobla according to all laws of the economy

Without Vaseline? Anizhedeti!

[REDBLUE]

Who has a problem? We do not have. Strip in our country and heaps above. The problem is in Europe and Ukraine. That is yes. So let them decide. And then I beseech us that we would give a gazka for 100% advance payment. But what about sanctions against the Russian Federation? They themselves want to block us in everything. And then they want to solve their gas problem, as I understand it, at our expense. No, brothers, as they say, called a cargo climb into the back.

[gandalf]

The junta’s minister’s news agency agreed to look at EU-Russia gas talks ...

[Rostovchanin]

The junta’s minister’s news agency agreed to look at EU-Russia gas talks ... laughing

I would also look ... and live ... with beer and salted peanuts

[Ivan Tucha]

they will be breaking us into concessions and also to modernize their gas transportation system. it seems to me. and not send them to the forest! ..

[pensioner]

Ukraine, Russia and the EU will discuss the gas problem in Warsaw

It seems to me that the EU members are not a weak gazanut in Warsaw. Gazprom’s mood is very serious.

[EvgenSuslov]

In the picture I see the French flag alone?

Well, okay, and the lyrics. Just like that, we cannot turn off the gas to them. There is an option to force them to control the Ukrainian gas system themselves, but the toad presses to give them something that fathers and grandfathers built.
So it remains only to take control.

[sazhka4]

Well, here we are .. The "commonwealth" lasted for a short time .. Its pocket "tugs" .. As usual .. We post on the sidelines and see. Who, to whom, and How it will give .. The Kamasutra is not near ..

[Neighbor]

It will be most reliable if Ukraine as an intermediary has a percentage from Europe, including the cost of transit, reselling Russian gas.

[Allegedly]

It has been a long time since I was so amused. But closer to the topic. In theory, she may want to milk the EU and the SGA ("how she milked the Russian Vanya"), singing him a song about brotherhood, but who will let her circle the EU and SGA? Ukraine is an object of world law, not a subject, and it can open a window only for barking in the direction of "bloody M0skalia".

[Twilight]

I can’t understand who owes what and what !!!
According to Interfax-Ukraine, Minister of Energy of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan agreed to hold a trilateral meeting on the gas problem on May 2 this year, in which Russia and the European Union will also participate. M.L.Ya.T. he saw it agreed, it already begins to enrage for these 3 lard how much good it would be possible (even if with taxes it is for liberalists if that). !!

[sinukvl]

I can’t understand what the hell it is necessary to rush with gas for these maydanutyh. They blocked the water in the impudent Crimea, and they are also trying to set some conditions for us. Yes, they shut off the gas to them and until they pay off old debts and interest, yes they will not make an advance payment for new deliveries, do not make deliveries again. And they will begin to gas at Geyropa, so explain to the heroes that since they are so worn with them, let them understand!

[aleks 62]

.... They are now threatening to turn off electricity .... You see, Crimeans do not pay for electricity ... But they themselves blocked the accounts and their banks in Crimea survive the last days, this does not count ... To the full of them !! !! On a prepayment !!!!! With gas cuts !!!

[cerbuk6155]

Quote: Roman1970

But there are no problems with gas ... Problems with the insolvency of Ukraine. We need to discuss who will give her money ...

Yes, and there is no need to discuss when there will be money then maybe we can also talk.

[Gagarin]

I also noticed a comic.
He was called to hear and execute the decision of the elders, and he was agreed by the audience ...
Let him pick up popcorn, otherwise he will have to wait a long time in the corridor, and just in case, Vaseline - the case can be different ...

Quote: gandalf

The junta’s minister’s news agency agreed to look at EU-Russia gas talks ...

[gandalf]

May take place on May 2 in Warsaw if the Minister of Ukraine is satisfied with the date and place.

EC - Do you have enough money for a ticket to Warsaw and back?
Ukraine - Enough to Warsaw. But to Madrid - only there.
EC - 2 May come?
Ukraine (aside) - Do you have tickets for 1 in May before Warsaw? - there is!
Ukraine - I’ll come.

So somehow ...

[mackonya]

Now in Ukraine there is a very difficult situation and the transition to the system of prepayment for gas is not the best option, the "Kiev authorities" will not get any worse from this, but will hit the common people more. Of course, the debt is growing and at the same time the budget deficit, and no real loan packages are expected yet. I hope prudence will take its toll, now only Russia can help Ukraine, whether they want it or not, but the fact remains, if now you do not help Ukraine, as a result, then you will have to lend it even more and for a long time.

[es.d]

Quote: mackonya

Now in Ukraine there is a very difficult situation and the transition to a system of prepayment for gas is not the best option, the "Kiev authorities" will not get any worse from this, but will hit the common people more.

As far as I understand, our gas goes to the Ukrainian industry. The population goes its own. More expensive gas will finish the metallurgists. Kolomoisky and other TP Even if we give gas for free - how much do you think the "common people" will pay for it?

[mackonya]

Do not forget that even after turning off the gas, Ukraine will take transit gas for itself, or the one that was pumped into the storage. Why am I "worried" about the people, because despite the stupidity of Kiev, the rest are not to blame. And it is impossible to strike at the oligarchs and the "Kiev authorities" without catching the common people.

[aleks 62]

Yeah !!! .... Ordinary people wore pies and buns maydanutym, and you bake for him .... I myself witnessed the events and saw how many "common people" ran to the Maidan, who was for grandmother, who was stupid .. And the "people's veche" 1,5 million people gathered in Kiev .... Et out of 3 million. residents of Kiev ... It comes to these in a different way - through zh..pu .... As the saying goes, it would (and) that gives rise to consciousness ... You have not yet heard how Ukrainian "Russians" swear by the Russian Federation and Putin, yes and we are Crimeans ..

[SHURAVI]

"... Yuri Prodan agreed to hold a trilateral meeting on the gas problem on May 2 this year ..." Well, what impudence !!! You might think that Ukraine does not owe Russia for gas, but on the contrary !!! Enough to mess with them !!! Cut off the gas and go to court for the full amount (somewhere over 20 billion dollars). By making concessions on gas, we thereby support this junta, and not the Ukrainian economy!

[Deniska]

Quote: afire

Yeah...
Interessno turns out yes?
Gazprom is obliged to keep deliveries to Europe through the same pipe as gas for Ukraine, but as far as I remember, the last days of freebies for Ukraine pass, it turns out that gas will be transited only for Europe (I remind you that transit through Ukraine has been prepaid for a long time).
And what will happen - Ukraine will continue to take away (in fact already steal) gas destined for Europe, and we - are obliged to supply gas to Europe from Europe by contract.
I think they will begin to blame us immediately for short deliveries ...
Also, Europeans didn’t really respond to the GDP letter ...
well, let them now burn with firewood .... themselves are to blame

As far as I know ... on the border with Ukraine, both from our side and from Europe, there are stations at which observers from the supplier and consumers monitor the amount of gas entering and leaving Ukraine. In other words, if the input is 100, and the output is 80, then 20 somewhere on the territory of Ukraine was "Glory to Ukraine"
So there will be no special problems

[Ruswolf]

Ukraine has a chance!
If the EU doesn’t give them a penny, and even on favorable terms .... They will introduce sanctions against the EU! They will block the gas and they will choose EU loans in kind!
Nikulin's circus is resting!

[VNP1958PVN]

"If the place and time suits Ukraine!" It's time to sign testimony, not an agreement, damn minister ...

[Lukich]

give them each a disposable gas lighter and go home

[builder]

Empty disposable lighter and mineral water without gas

[matvey1978]

Yatsenyuk brought the gold of the Scythians to the United States, is estimated at $ 25, they say this for 000 spent on democratization of Ukraine, and for a loan from the IMF! In my opinion they will be thrown by the USA. The feeling is that the EU and Russia want to push and watch from the side.

[Altor86]

What can we talk about with them? Liars and thieves.

[LEVIAFAN]

It's time for the junta to extract its gas. i.e. switch to bean nutrition)

[Verdent]

Which problem? There is no problem, there is our gas and there are a number of idle loafers in power who are eager to grab it for a penny, or even for nothing, although they have not paid for past deliveries. However, this does not prevent them from making a sacrifice of themselves and inspiring Europe that the Russians are bad.

[maxim1]

If, as the Yatsenyukh threatens, his community will not be happy with the answer, they will file a lawsuit. Under this court, they adopted a law on temporarily occupied territories. And then, with a sense of their own righteousness, they will demand a discount on the Black Sea Fleet's stay in Crimea.
The court will support his point of view, as Geyropa does not recognize the referendum.
GDP should not be chatted with, but toughly put in a corner. The less courtesy you are with the villains, they will either understand faster or be sent to the toilet of history faster.

[askort154]

MIKHAN ..... It's too late to come to an agreement .. "Money in the morning chairs in the evening" We warned ..

GDP announced - I give a grace period for exactly a month. There will be no signs of arrears, from May 7 Gazprom will switch to gas supplies on a prepaid basis. I just don't like the fact that the negotiations are in Warsaw. Why a hangover?
Why do we follow their lead even in this. We provide a platform for another hysteria of Russophobia in its capital ?!

[surovts.valery]

Quote: Ruswolf

Ukraine has a chance!
If the EU doesn’t give them a penny, and even on favorable terms .... They will introduce sanctions against the EU! They will block the gas and they will choose EU loans in kind!
Nikulin's circus is resting!

The thing is the pipe. Maybe Yarosh ask that he promise and blow up. No pipe - no problem.

[gunter_laux]

Too far to hr. On tubes and faucets from our European pipe to the side dumps! Or maybe screw a sconce to exchange the Dnieper water in the Crimean Canal? And there, and winter is just around the corner, with firewood north of Crimea is a big problem.

[awg75]

The German armed forces can use their elite KSK special forces detachment against militias in Slavyansk. The Bild newspaper notes that the unit has already been put on alert and is awaiting orders.
The author of the article notes that there are four German citizens in the city, who are also military, and the negotiations of Kiev on their release were unsuccessful.
The newspaper also cites an unnamed Ukrainian official who admitted that the Ukrainian security forces are not ready to enter into an open military confrontation with militias in southeastern Ukraine. The interlocutor essentially noted that only military personnel from the outside would have enough spirit to open fire on civilians.
Bild notes that KSK may end up in Ukraine within two hours.
Earlier, the people's mayor of Slavyansk said that he was not opposed to exchanging detained OSCE members for political prisoners who were seized by the Kiev security forces in a criminal way. According to him, the leadership of the organization can and should affect the Kiev authorities.
Ponomarev assured that the detained OSCE members are kept in good conditions and are not considered prisoners at all.
- First of all, these are officers. I had a conversation with them, since I myself am a former military man. We agreed that the Code of Honor of an officer can unite us, ”said Vyacheslav Ponomarev. - I told them that I do not consider them prisoners of war, they are my guests. They also trust me completely. They have no problems with food and accommodation.
The KSK was formed in 1996 as the elite special forces of the Bundeswehr. Candidates for joining the KSK must pass tough tests: march seven kilometers with 20 kilograms of luggage in 52 minutes, swim 500 meters in 15 minutes. After two years of intense training, the soldiers receive "ready for battle" status and are assigned to the special forces' staff.


THIS IS ALREADY AN EXPRESS SURVEY

[surovts.valery]

Quote: awg75

The German armed forces can use their elite KSK special forces detachment against militias in Slavyansk.

Indeed, overkill. There must be some kind of genetic memory. Do not climb. Otherwise, prisoners of war will indeed appear, in a number of more.

[generalissimo]

According to Interfax-Ukraine, Minister of Energy of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan agreed to hold a trilateral meeting on the gas problem on May 2 this year, in which Russia and the European Union will also participate. Not well, interesting, they did not agree! Who do they think they are? Crimea blocked the water without talking, but Crimea is RUSSIA! Cover them with everything that is possible and all things! The common people are sorry of course, all are their Slavs! But! every nation has the government that it deserves! So fry fat at the stake! The gateways on the canal were not personally closed by the Turchins with the Yatsinuk, but the rank-and-file garners were lads!

[mig31]

The jokes are bad with gas, or the ice age for Europe may come ...

[Giant thought]

Money in the evening - gas in the morning, money in the morning - gas for lunch, money for lunch - gas in the evening. This is how we should have a conversation with Ukraine.

[Tima]

No concessions to the fascists (whoever is against us, that fascist), let them die like the Swedes near Poltava, as the Germans near Stalingrad, like the French on Berezene, like the Poles in Moscow ....

[yur2079]

According to Interfax-Ukraine, Minister of Energy of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan ...

And to whom is it sold ...?

[Roman 1977]

Solving the gas problem in Ukrainian:

Ukrainian scientists have discovered a new way to extract natural gas ...

[salamandra2826]

Yagupop the 14th

[Tatar 174]

Мальчиши-плохиши от майданутых до полосатых меня лично злить уже начинают, я им ввожу санкцию...

[Roman1970]

Quote: Orik

Quote: Roman1970

But there are no problems with gas ... Problems with the insolvency of Ukraine. We need to discuss who will give her money ...

Whoever danced the girl on the Maidan, let him give ...

От тех "танцоров" снега зимой не допросишься...

[Roman1970]

Money in the evening - gas in the morning, money in the morning - gas for lunch, money for lunch - gas in the evening. This is how we should have a conversation with Ukraine.

Так уже так и ведём...Предоплата, однако...

[dFG]

что тут обсуждать?? европейским товарищам надо готовиться с 17 -го мая принимать на баланс самостийну украину и платить по ее счетам а песни про наш и ваш счетчик надо игнорировать уже России ...хотели себе укарину получайте вместе с долгами мне кажется РФ пора уже скинуть с себя это ярмо-- украина

[Neighbor]

Quote: Neighbor

It will be most reliable if Ukraine as an intermediary has a percentage from Europe, including the cost of transit, reselling Russian gas.

И при чём тут минусы??? Перепродавая газ по европейской цене,Украина закупала бы его у России за эту цену-минус услуги(небольшие) за посредничество и фактические за транзит плюс вся полнота ответственности за недопоставки. Достаточно будет со стороны Европы контролировать поставки из России в Украину (для нас это важно) ина выходе из Украины (нам это практически без нужды)

[stas11830]

Европа с Украиной выё......ся до зимы ещё могут, а потом, чтобы согреться, им придётся сначала не газ, а кое что другое у Газпрома отсосать!

[Ross]

Quote: GDP

have already done so. All the same, the Ukrainians were stealing gas, but the Europeans did not say a word to Ukraine - "we will pay as much as they put on our meter, and we are not interested in transit problems, theft of Ukraine is a problem of Russia" - something like that they said last time.

Moreover, they specifically put sticks in the wheels of the southern stream, so that we again subsidized the Ukrainian economy with our money.

Нужно переходить на обходные маршруты, раз Европа беспокоится. Путин не зря месяц сроку дал, намекая что далее Европа сама будет виновата. Сейчас нужна грамотная и осторожная политика с газом, чтоб США на нас Европу не натравили.

[gammipapa]

Вот такая мысль в голову пришла
Смотрите американцы говорят европе мол не сцыте ,Путин газу не даст , мы вас завалим сжиженым газом ,будем вам в баллонах привозить - проживете .
А что если нам не поставлять им газ по трубе , построить свой заводик на границе и предложить свой сжиженый газ . Деньги мол в кассу и везите к себе сколько надо . Им то это по любому выгоднее и дешевле будет чем из америки . И у нас пока деньги не заплатили хрен кто возьмет . Ну и тем кто воровал в нахаляву тоже можно будет продавать ,пусть в баллонах к себе катают , раз по честному не могут .