Crimean Gambit

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About the events in Ukraine did not speak and did not write just lazy. But still I want to express a slightly different view. I think no one has any doubt that another orange revolution has taken place in Ukraine. In recent years, there have been quite a few of these revolutions throughout the world, and this is not the first time for Ukraine. Also, everyone knows who is the director of all such events. The United States tested technology “orange revolutions”, reaching almost 100% success in obtaining the planned result. And suddenly such a failure. America is investing big enough money in Ukrainian chaos, and Russia is receiving dividends from it. This, of course, is a great cause for joy, but inside there is some concern ... Everyone knows that in politics, especially in that part of politics pursued by the most dishonest and vile methods, the Anglo-Saxons have achieved the highest perfection in recent centuries. Maybe here all this combination was worked out in advance?

So, the beginning was commonplace. "Popular" protests against the policies of the current government. Inaction of the president. His escape. And the coming to power of those for whom all these protests were organized. What should the new government have to do if it planned to calmly govern the country? Naturally, reduce the passions. But in Ukraine there is another. Those who came to power do not seek to reconcile the parties and to solve problems. They continue to spin the flywheel of nationalism in a multiethnic state. They continue to intensify the split between the inhabitants of the country, inflating the smoldering coals of rebellion and pushing the country to civil war. In principle, it only opens the ears sticking out behind all these. The United States does not need the state of Ukraine. She needs a controlled chaos of the type worked in the countries of the Middle East.

During this period, Crimea holds a referendum and during the day is part of Russia. Everyone is jubilant, Putin's ratings are soaring to unattainable heights, and “effective managers” are rubbing their hands: after all, a new region has emerged, into which huge budgetary investments will go. And how to work with such money, these “effective managers” know perfectly well.

So, the Crimea was a very sweet piece for everyone. Someone raised his rating, someone figured out how many billions could fuck on this, and the rest simply received moral satisfaction from the courage shown by Russia for the first time in the last quarter century. In a word, the Crimea was such a tasty morsel, like cheese in a mousetrap. No, I'm not saying that the inhabitants of Crimea did not want to go to Russia. Wanted And we wanted to see them in Russia too. But who introduced the idea to hold a referendum at such an opportune time, I would be interested to know. And it’s not interesting who exactly voiced this idea, but who, standing behind him, just threw this idea, so that others would accept it as their own. Perhaps there was no such person. But ... the option remains.

So, the Russians and Crimeans rejoice. And in America and Europe they say that Russia annexed a piece of a sovereign state, taking advantage of the problems in that state. Public opinion in the world is being prepared for the fact that Russia is an aggressor. And the unprincipled aggressor.

What happens next? Southeast is in favor of autonomy. The question of autonomy goes into the proposal for separation. Passion inside Ukraine is growing. On the one hand, the government continues to pursue a policy of infringement of the Russian-speaking population, and on the other, it raises the degree of Ukrainian nationalism. After the transition of the Crimea to Russia, part of the inhabitants of the Southeast hopes for Russian assistance and therefore decides on an open tough confrontation. Is this a development for Russia? Not. And it is precisely in matters of the South-East that I am sure that the call for autonomy, and especially for separation, originally came precisely from the gray cardinals directing the "Orange Revolutions." But he found himself on the so prepared ground of the sincere desires of the inhabitants of these regions, that he immediately caused a wave.

Let's think about it. But can Russia really help the Southeast? I think no. To send troops there? But then all over the world it will be declared occupation. And here, even China "disown." Spit on everything, and still go to a conflict that could escalate into an armed conflict with NATO? Well, for this we have no strength! If for Iraq, an air group was assembled in 2560 aircraft, then it would be no less for “protecting” Ukraine. And how many Russian combat aircraft? A few hundred. Therefore, Russia cannot take any action that could lead to such a conflict. That is why the Ukrainian authorities will quietly apply the armed forces against the South-East. That is why they will continue to unleash a civil war. And that is why they exacerbate the issue with gas.

Can we stop gas supplies to Ukraine? Smug Kiselev on NTV on Sunday said: "I do not understand, my friends (obviously the same sleek snobs. - Author) do not understand, my Russian friends (I will refrain from commenting. - Author.) Also do not understand why Russia Should Ukraine supply gas to LOSS itself? "

Well, Mr. Kiselev knows these two concepts well: profit and loss. But can not understand otherwise. Turning off the gas, we will turn it off in the Southeast. For residents of the South-East, it will be like a betrayal. Many will find that profit is really the most important for Russia and that in the absence of profit we are ready to give it up. Moreover, those residents of central and western Ukraine, who are still for the union of Ukraine with Russia and fraternal relations, may also think about the correctness of their views. And it’s not easy for them when everybody around is called Russia an enemy, a state with imperial manners and a corrupt, soulless population. No, turning off the gas, we will give another trump card in the information war against our enemies.

And now let's see: what was the way out of this situation? It is in those conditions when the current government does not want peace in the country. The introduction of UN troops and observers would be normal. Both that, and another would provide the termination of "Maidan", armed clashes and other disorders, as well as the holding of the May elections. By this time, Ukrainians would have felt the lack of a budget for the payment of pensions, salaries, and the absence of any business advantages of the interim government. In addition, given that the population of the Southeast is larger than that of the West, and the residents of Central Ukraine are likely to be equally divided in their choice, the chances of choosing a pro-Russian president would be quite high. But for this, it is necessary that the composition of the UN observers and troops should be more representatives of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Belarus and even Finns and Poles, but fewer Americans, British and their vassals.

Now, in my opinion, this chance is missed. The West can prevent Russian members, since Russia, according to the West, has demonstrated its interest in Ukrainian resources and territories, and therefore, in the opinion of the West, it cannot be objective, etc., etc. And without a powerful bloc of Russia, China and fraternal neighbors, elections cannot be normal.

Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West a lever with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems. And the further scenario of the Ukrainian question will go along a more rigid and unpredictable path.
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  1. johnsnz
    +6
    April 30 2014 08: 48
    "But for this it is necessary that the UN observers and troops include more representatives of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Belarus and even Finns and Poles, but fewer Americans, British and their vassals."
    It’s high time to review the participation policy. Representation must be equal. Moreover, preference should be given to geographical neighbors.
    1. +25
      April 30 2014 09: 57
      The smug sleek Kiselev on NTV said on Sunday: “I don't understand, my friends (obviously the same sleek snobs. - Author) also do not understand, my Russian acquaintances (I will refrain from commenting. - Author.) also do not understand why Russia should supply gas to Ukraine at a LOSS to itself? ”

      Especially for The author - I explain an elementary thing, it is not clear why it did not reach The author. Russia Should not act at a loss, because Ukraine is an independent and separate state. Russia Can act to the detriment of their financial interests on the principles of friendly relations and the overall contribution to the common cause. But just like that.
      As they say - took up the chest, say something. If you called yourself square and put the buoy on your neighbors - behave accordingly and pay in full. And your moaning Author, from the "onizhedeti" series. And for SE - do not worry, they perfectly understand what is happening and why.
      Minus.
      1. +10
        April 30 2014 10: 44
        It seems to me that Mr. Reshetnikov didn’t understand the situation a bit ... Turn off the gas, hit the southeast ... But what, does everything work there now and everyone gets paid? Or is it now that the majority (paradoxically) of the citizens of Ukraine decide something?
        The article is a typical sample of verbiage. Ask now, Who will recognize the elections in Ukraine? Nobody but civilized ones ... By the way, they are in no hurry to feed the new government ... They feed them with promises, but not with money ...
        But the EU and us will still have to solve the problem of Ukraine ... Americans will wash their hands exactly when they have achieved a real result, the beginning of the war ...
        1. +22
          April 30 2014 11: 07
          Began! Alarmists need to shoot. For the southeast, do not worry. They work here, eat little, and steal in Kiev. So we do not require special assistance (state). Investments in the modernization of production - yes. It is possible and state. And who else will be involved in the nuclear, rocket and space industry, science? In the union, steel for submarines was poured only in Mariupol, Kherson is a large port and roads to the Crimea, Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk - this is such a concentration of science and industry that it can only be compared with Moscow and St. Petersburg. Now the efficiency there is low - after all, this is primarily a defense industry, which Kiev does not need, but Moscow really needs ...
          1. +8
            April 30 2014 12: 31
            The article is really slightly panicky.
            And with an attempt to put it under analytics.

            In reality - I believe Putin when he spoke and thought that he was sitting and decided at the last moment to annex Crimea or not.
            No, of course the "polite" acted according to a clear and long-prepared plan, of course it all did not start in February (there is even a source :-)))), but ... I think they did not want to bring it up to the inclusion of Crimea in the Russian Federation.

            And now ... there is a YuVU, which will now slowly rebel: Donetsk, Lugansk, then Kharkov, then to Odessa.
            Of course, there is a GRU (of course, not dozens of DRGs, but a few people, maybe 1-2 small groups), everything went smoothly harmoniously - if you look at the map how everything flared around Slavyansk, you can immediately see the center - warehouses in Soledar.
            But ... no country can spark a rebellion in another country - the conditions for it will always be born within the country itself, and not from the outside.

            And now ... it looks like one big Transnistria will appear.
            Neither good nor bad, just the most likely option: federalization has already been lost, in Russia immediately take these lands - run into real economic sanctions, and not everyone in SEI wants this (unlike Crimea, by the way) - I think there are 50x50, somewhere bigger, somewhere smaller.

            Well ... the remaining Ukraine-most likely will survive.
            Moreover, the collapse of the hryvnia that is coming - it’s good for the economy (for a large part of the citizens it’s bad - yes), you look and get out. True, it will already be a completely different country.

            So ... the war in Crimea, everything is in smoke and nothing is visible.
            We are waiting, cheering for SEU, supporting the authorities, when they at least stand up for Ukrainians with threats and ... peace of mind.
            So far, Putin has been playing geopolitics in a very clear, restrained manner, having won the first battle of the war, in fact, only by demonstrating strength, which, according to Sun Tzu, is not the most ideal, but a very good victory.
        2. +2
          April 30 2014 14: 30
          And we still have to solve the problem of Ukraine
          In general, I get the impression that the US plans to completely destroy the Ukrainian economy, wreak havoc, and then give it to Russia. Again the plan of Brzizinsky’s paranoid comes up before his eyes, be it not okay. hi
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      2. +1
        April 30 2014 12: 16
        How should it not act at a loss? Is it like in Yugoslavia?
        Yes, if we then spat on everything and equipped the navy there, and at least BUKs delivered free of charge at a loss, would it be worse? Despite the fact that Yugoslavia is a sovereign country.
      3. Gloria45
        +1
        April 30 2014 13: 06
        And it’s interesting not just who voiced this idea, but who, standing behind him, simply threw this idea so that others would accept it as their own. Perhaps there was no such person. But ... the option remains.

        There is no need to be a prophet to understand from the very beginning that Russia
        will not leave Crimea in the flames of a coup. And whisper to anyone and do not need anything.
        Because if at the end of February there weren’t Russian territory in Crimea
        troops, then in early March the worst massacre in Ukraine would begin, and then,
        who knows, maybe the NATO peacekeepers would rule the ball long ago, and the USA
        they’d already hosted on the peninsula. I remember when Yushchenko was an attempt
        to conduct some exercises with the Americans in Feodosia, then the residents of the city threw them rotten eggs and rotten carrots on that exercise and ended,
        but now it would be a full intervention. Russia literally ahead of
        2 days. Great invincible Russian Empire! Glory to you for centuries!
        However, attempts at sabotage persist and I think that for a long time will have to be on the alert. Here is the information about Tymoshenko, well, something about the Crimea.
        1. Gloria45
          +1
          April 30 2014 13: 12

          "The princess at the bucket": for whom Yulia Tymoshenko works. P
    2. Validator
      +4
      April 30 2014 10: 29
      The author is wrong. The Maidan was sponsored and prepared by the United States in order to set up its government, this is a no brainer. And then those deep-seated contradictions between the West and the South-East of Ukraine that were laid at the mental level crawled out. And the further actions of Russia, the West and internal forces in Ukraine are a reaction to a situation that is not completely controlled and planned by anyone, it is a kind of spontaneous movement
      1. +6
        April 30 2014 10: 47
        Can Russia really help the Southeast? I think no. Enter troops there? But then all over the world it will be declared occupation. And here even China “disowns”. Spit on everything, and still go to a conflict that could develop into an armed conflict with NATO? Well, for this we have no strength! If for Iraq an air group was assembled in 2560 aircraft, then for the "protection" of Ukraine it will be no less. And how many combat aircraft do Russia have? A few hundred. Therefore, no action can be taken by Russia that could lead to such a conflict. That is why the Ukrainian authorities will calmly use the armed forces against the Southeast.

        Quote: Validator
        The author is wrong.


        Author - Kill Apsten! am
        start from the end - "the Ukrainian authorities will calmly use armed forces against the South-East"
        As soon as Shoigu read the Order on the beginning of the exercises of battalion tactical groups - hysterics and squeals with snot occurred in the kuevo on all communication channels with crying - "we stopped the ATO, and they continue the march of the columns to the border!" ...

        I have already written many times that "turmoil in ruins" is a secondary regional peripheral conflict for Russia.
        The main direction of the strike should be - financial and monetary to bring down the "green candy wrapper". Moreover, together with the Chinese. If you collapse the pillar on which the whole west rests, everything else will collapse by itself !!!
        1. +2
          April 30 2014 11: 47
          the author expressed idiotic thoughts.
        2. 0
          6 May 2014 09: 43
          Time has shown who is right. The junta was not very scared of burning the inhabitants of Odessa alive. And explain when Putin will introduce troops? If you guess the date I will kill the apstena))) This does not disassemble the gopniks, this is politics. Here, as the principle "how to send two bytes" does not work.
    3. 120352
      +2
      April 30 2014 10: 34
      In order for Ukrainian problems not to be resolved without us, it is necessary not to stop, but as soon as possible to regain the original Russian lands, our outskirts, transferred by the Bolsheviks to the Germans in payment for the infamous Brest peace, and then, for some reason, found itself outside of Russia.
    4. +10
      April 30 2014 11: 45
      The article seems to be correctly marked, but somehow alarmist or subtextually escalating.
      The fact that the United States wants to take away from Russia 500 billion in trade with Europe and replace Russia with itself is a fact. For this, the Americans want to present us as the aggressor. For this, and so "stupid" the junta behaves, especially with non-payments for gas. BUT!
      Putin made a wise decision, he warned Europe in advance that the junta was inadequately secured, and in a month, if the EU does not help, we will sell on a prepaid basis! Germans and other Europeans, unlike the Americans, are accustomed to neat compliance with treaties. And then their leadership had a choice to indulge further the United States and remain without gas, or to save themselves and build new gas supply routes bypassing Ukraine and Russia. Nobody will pay ukro-junta now, the plan of the Americans is clear to everyone. And cooperation with Europe in Europe on the issue of gas puts an end to the entire US operation in Ukraine. So a new aggravation on May 2 drew. Americans work quickly. Yesterday, the UN Security Council unanimously condemned ... (!!!) Russia for the disruption of Geneva and approved the punitive operations of the junta against the South-East. So now we are waiting for Putin’s return move. And I think this will not be the deployment of troops — which the Americans are now longing for.
      1. +2
        April 30 2014 12: 35
        Totally agree!
      2. 0
        April 30 2014 13: 37
        it’s not long to wait - May 21 is just around the corner. GDP in China and Goodbye America ....
      3. Nikurov
        0
        April 30 2014 16: 44
        Bravo, Ross!
      4. Nikurov
        0
        April 30 2014 16: 44
        Bravo, Ross!
    5. 0
      April 30 2014 12: 59
      why are there peacekeepers? Apparently, the Lugansk and Donetsk republics are able to cope on their own. This is evidenced by the fact that the army does not want to carry out the orders of the junta, and processes are also taking place in other areas of Ukraine that are not conducive to pacification measures. Lugansk and Donetsk need to be helped humanitarianly, but not under the auspices of the UN, and, most importantly, help in the establishment of statehood and the development of government institutions. and then announce a counter-terrorist operation to squeeze out the right sector and Natsik. but this is only after the referendum. the main thing is to create conditions for its referendum. this can be done by the forces of self-defense, provoking actions in other areas and diverting the forces of the junta from the above-mentioned areas. and there are enough fighters in Donetsk and Lugansk ...
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    7. -1
      April 30 2014 13: 23
      The author looks at things very narrowly. The most important question: does Russia need Russophobian, Maydanuty, NATO Ukraine? The obvious answer is no no need! For when near you, on Slavic soil, a hot spot and (or) NATO bases are pi .... c!
  2. +9
    April 30 2014 08: 52
    Article about polymers.
    1. +8
      April 30 2014 10: 09
      Quote: AID.S
      Article about polymers.

      About polymers or polycarbonates, but obviously not the case!
      It was necessary not to touch the Crimea, supply gas for free (otherwise, someone would think that money is needed for the Russian economy!), Sleek Kiselev is worse than the insane bum-free Turchinov, in short we needed to be silent in a rag, you look for it, American uncles would be allowed in a blue helmet to show off on the road, or maybe they weren’t allowed, but in any case, uncles do not have to anger, otherwise aye-ya-ka! ...
  3. +20
    April 30 2014 08: 54
    And the second of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!
    1. +17
      April 30 2014 08: 57
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      And the second of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!

      Or a fool
      1. +5
        April 30 2014 10: 03
        Maybe they already issued new manuals to the daughters of officers? smile
    2. +6
      April 30 2014 09: 31
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      And the second of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!

      That's right!
      For example - "By turning off the gas, we will turn it off in the South-East. For the inhabitants of the South-East, it will be like a betrayal."
      Just look at the scheme of gas pipelines to understand that such the statement is false.
      Or: "Thus, having received Crimea, we gave the West a lever with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems."
      What, West and without this lever did not squeeze Russia from the Ukrainian "field"?
      As the classics wrote, the author is a typical bastard!
      We, de, the West will not allow ... They say, we are interested!
      And who is there without interest?
      They'll let us everywhereif it is clear that it is impossible without us. Yes
      And those without whom it is possible are not allowed anywhere.
    3. WKS
      +1
      April 30 2014 09: 57
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      And the second of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!

      Moreover, Lviv or Polish.
    4. avt
      +2
      April 30 2014 10: 40
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      And the second of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!

      Hike from Kiev, from the seminar that Khodorkovsky conducted, returned. Well, I haven't discovered anything particularly new, it has long been clear that all their lured agents, and just crazy, human rights defenders, marsh, the US have activated. Of course it is difficult for them after the Crimea, but they have to work off the money! So they mold anal opuses on the motive of geopolitical research, the main thing if it is not possible to promote active measures, then at least to sow doubts - to deprive of confidence and unbalance, which is already quite a lot, especially among unstable individuals who do not dig deep into the material.
      1. Lara
        0
        April 30 2014 13: 04
        Doubt, do not do, do not doubt.
    5. +4
      April 30 2014 10: 49
      The author has his own, reasoned opinion. Let him not misunderstand some things, it does not matter in this case. And you all who think otherwise mishandled Cossacks? Or are you a robot who knows no other words?
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      2. +1
        April 30 2014 11: 52
        Quote: aleks700
        The author has his own, reasoned opinion. Let him not misunderstand some things, it does not matter in this case. And you all who think otherwise mishandled Cossacks? Or are you a robot who knows no other words?

        I support, comrade! He who has an opinion and is able to formulate it is worthy of respect. Whoever considers the opinion controversial can argue. And to clog the forum with cliches and endless identical demotivators to anything.
        1. Aleksandr65
          -3
          April 30 2014 12: 28
          He who has an opinion and is able to formulate it is worthy of respect

          The commentator clearly has his own opinion and he formulated it much more clearly and shorter than you (The author of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!)
          1. +1
            April 30 2014 13: 35
            The commentator clearly has his own opinion and he formulated it much more clearly and shorter than you (The author of the article is clearly a "sent Cossack"!)

            Having an opinion is not forbidden. But you don’t need to stupid.
            The author threw everything in a heap. And thousands of planes, and gas and famine of the southeast because of Russia. Sheer panic.
        2. wax
          +2
          April 30 2014 13: 59
          Opinion? - you are welcome. But analytics? The article does not smell of it, but the pivotal idea is obvious, expressed in the words: they annexed the Crimea - they gave the thieves a lever for pressure (that is, the anti-Russian idea is not to rock the boat). However, any decision of Russia in its national interests provides "leverage" for the West to put pressure on us. Now the pressure is unprecedented, because The West has come to the conclusion that nothing can be gained from us with "cookies" (the resource has been exhausted, the restart has not reanimated this resource, Putin is inexorable in complete unity with his country). For them, we are the main enemy, "occupying" huge resources, which by their right belong to the civilized world community.
          1. 0
            April 30 2014 15: 26
            Why doesn't it smell like analytics? It smells. Well, not all authors are professional political scientists. As it can, it analyzes it.
  4. +15
    April 30 2014 08: 54
    ... If an air group of 2560 aircraft was assembled for Iraq, then for the "protection" of Ukraine it will be no less. And how many combat aircraft do Russia have? A few hundred. Therefore, no action that could lead to such a conflict ...

    I read it with increasing bewilderment ... After that, the pearl did not go any further.
    1. +4
      April 30 2014 11: 28
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      If an air group of 2560 aircraft was assembled for Iraq, then for the “defense" of Ukraine it will be no less. And how many combat aircraft do Russia have?

      Well, I didn’t read it in a hurry.
      I thought the author was just a "typical bastard", but he is also a pretty fool!
      Is it, my dear, the Russian Federation is at war with "combat aircraft"?
      It’s really impossible to fight Russia seriously! As with the USA, for example, everyone knows why!
      Someone will collect airplanes for the war with Russia, knowing that, very likely, the very airbase itself will not be found under a thick layer of "radioactive ash". Why is there a base, some states-suppliers of airplanes, etc., too, you will not find! request
      And all this is because of Ukraine with its pastor and sectarian of something with a nose. Yes?
      Yes, any "unwilling Russia of any good", including Obama, will confirm: "Fuck, fuck, drunk boyars shouted! (I.e. Western politicians and common people)
  5. +4
    April 30 2014 08: 55
    So this is life, and not a computer game (which Ukraine has played for the last 23 years), there are no autosaves and no extra lives either.
  6. +18
    April 30 2014 09: 00
    Sofa troops and kitchen strategists.
    If yes, if only mushrooms were growing in your mouth, it would be not a mouth, but a whole garden.
    I did not like the analysis.
    Relying on the goodwill of the West is cutting your throat to yourself.
    Then we will be good for them. We’ll be good for everyone.
    And Nemtsov from Novodvorskaya even ... spit on our graves.
    And the whole layout.
    ...
    So far, VV Putin had no obvious punctures.
    We do not even impose sanctions against the West. And the West is already in its third stage.
    So - 3: 0 - in our favor.
    Yet.
    And then we'll see.
  7. +4
    April 30 2014 09: 01
    Another ur.od, either paid, or a half-wit. When you are all over. You read these and begin to understand Stalin. Ready to pour shit on Russia and the people, in my opinion they don’t give birth, but they grow somewhere where flies crap. And what is terrible, there are many of them and they themselves will not die. Goes to the store, dichlorvos for every fireman to buy something.
    1. +2
      April 30 2014 10: 05
      And also "Saigu". And buckshot.
    2. +4
      April 30 2014 10: 45
      In vain you are so about a person just because his opinion is different from yours! Everyone has the right to an opinion. I put a plus for the article for its first part. I don't quite agree with "if only ...", but it was also an option. There are accusations against Kiselev's address and the idea of ​​a referendum, but which of us does not use accusations here? How many people, so many opinions.
      According to the options of actions: my friend of the most active Maidan activists in one of our disputes told or let slip that there is a Scenario! (he told about this on the eve of Yanukovych’s flight !!!) And so. The Maidan and its victory is a provocation of the West in order to lure Russia (its troops) into Ukraine, then a guerrilla war and the entry of NATO troops into western Ukraine. Further, various vectors of the development of events (new foci of color revolutions, the introduction of wax, where else ...). All these vectors ultimately lead to the dismemberment of Russia, including with the participation of China, Japan, etc.
      This cannot grow into open confrontation, since there is a nuclear "club", BUT if you nevertheless stir up the "color revolution" in Russia itself, then there will be a demoralized country exactly as it is now in Ukraine. The president will be eliminated, the army is distracted - no one press the button will not, since there is no obvious aggressor. After the arrival of the marrionettes, all partner neighbors with a "clear" conscience will be able to bite off pieces of Russia shouting: "Well, she did it in the same way with Ukraine!" "Serves Russia right!" - others will yell ...
      How do you like this scenario ?!
      Personally, I am sure that if such things were said even on the Maidan in Ukraine, then they are unlikely. If there is some truth in this, then the GDP with its team has long been aware of everything and plays its OWN game, luring the enemy. We will see and, I'm sure, take part in the return moves to the west.
      Life is not a completely predictable thing, and the options must be calculated, and not stigmatized by people for a different opinion!
      1. Lara
        +1
        April 30 2014 13: 08
        As it was said in one film about the war, "War is not Who will shoot whom, but who will change his mind"
        GDP also grew in war films ...
  8. +5
    April 30 2014 09: 02
    "The introduction of UN troops and observers would have been normal. Both would ensure an end to the Maidans, armed clashes and other disorders, as well as the holding of the planned elections in May."
    So Kiev itself does not want observers, they suggested. “We don’t need peacekeeping forces, firstly we can handle it ourselves, and secondly, their introduction will mean dividing Ukraine into sectors of responsibility - something to Europe, something to the United States, which - then Russia, even China, God forbid to hurry ", - this is how a high-ranking source in the apparatus of the Ukrainian government commented to Polotinline.ru on the statements of Russian senators. At the same time, he made a sensational addition, saying "We are rushing like a bobsleigh on a sleigh, either to the finish line, or we will crash, the idiotic situation is terrible and terrible, ****", after which he hung up and did not answer it again. http://www.politonline.ru/comments/16219.html
  9. +6
    April 30 2014 09: 06
    .... About events in Ukraine did not speak and did not write only lazy. But still I want to express a slightly different look .....
    I did not give an assessment ... much controversial at first glance ..
    But if you dance from the stove, it turns out that this strategist is rich in hindsight. and at a late date plays the GREAT CHESS PARTY ... AND HOW RESULT ... Russia does not know what got involved ..!
    ".... Thus, having received Crimea, we gave the West a lever with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems. And the further scenario of the Ukrainian question will follow a more rigid and unpredictable path ...."

    WHO ARE YOU LORD OF RESHETNIKOV ...? ... THE AXIOM OF FORMER EXPLORERS DOES NOT HAPPEN! A CRIMEAN GAMBIT. THIS IS A SEPARATE EPISODE COMPLETED WITH HIGH PILOTS .. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT WITHOUT PREPARATION ... ALL ONE MOTION
    1. Ujin61
      +4
      April 30 2014 10: 33
      Reshetnikov is Rezun's new pseudo. Provocation from such an analysis stinks a mile and a half.
  10. +10
    April 30 2014 09: 07
    The U.S. military was discouraged by the loss of Crimea, Ukraine had already concluded contracts for the re-equipment and repairs of the Sevastopol port, it was enough to introduce ONE American ship into the port water area and the Russian fleet would be locked there like in a bank, it would hardly be a good idea. The introduction of NATO troops throughout Ukraine is a declaration of war on Russia, since we cannot allow missiles in a 3-minute flight to Moscow! The author suggests betraying all relatives, and just Russians, and allowing the Nazi reprisals against them?
    To the MINUS author.
  11. +7
    April 30 2014 09: 07
    Opportunism is so rushing in this article, there is no zero risk ...
  12. +10
    April 30 2014 09: 07
    Rave! That Kiselev has not worked for NTV for 15 years. And Kiselev, hated by the West, is broadcasting on the Russia-1 channel.
  13. +7
    April 30 2014 09: 08
    This makes no sense
  14. +6
    April 30 2014 09: 12
    Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West leverage with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems.

    There is no need to squeeze the author out of nowhere - he himself merged preventively. Gorbachev's position "for both ours and yours" has never led anyone to any good.
  15. +6
    April 30 2014 09: 13
    The Crimean Gambit is Russia's first successful foreign policy action in recent history in the interests of the Russian people. One who does not recognize this is an enemy or a half-wit. To whom to attribute the author of the article - decide for yourself.
  16. yulka2980
    +7
    April 30 2014 09: 13
    In other words, the accession of the Russian Crimea was a mistake? So order me to understand? I fundamentally disagree with you. And in general, it’s better to breed demagogy
    indicate ways to solve the situation. And we all know how to rant request
  17. +3
    April 30 2014 09: 18
    strange article from which resource? obviously ho chlo patriot ..
  18. +3
    April 30 2014 09: 27
    The article is just an alternative point of view with which I disagree.
    Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West leverage with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems.
    - partially yes, but as long as there is a Russian-speaking population there, they will not squeeze us out of there. That's when the West gets a purely Western Ukraine - and let them squeeze out and solve problems with the Nazis! And when they (the fascists) realize that this is FIDAL, the West will have problems! laughing
  19. +1
    April 30 2014 09: 30
    hi article - it would be better not to read the author does not fully understand. what is happening .. And who and what is achieving.
  20. 0
    April 30 2014 09: 32
    That's what the Americans are muddied? The idea that Russia bypasses the United States in many ways simply does not fit in my head. The Americans are still those cunning guys, as if the war had not been unleashed.
  21. +3
    April 30 2014 09: 34
    Eddie seems to be writing from somewhere in Minnesota ..... why be surprised? Rotten non-Russian intelligentsia, who can only scum and rub everything ....
  22. +4
    April 30 2014 09: 36
    some nasty little article, like "Katz always offered to surrender ..."
  23. +3
    April 30 2014 09: 39
    the sediment from the article remained unpleasant
  24. acute
    +5
    April 30 2014 09: 43
    I am not a professional, but I think the article is very bad. Not only are there no explanations for what the UN troops are, How those in Ukraine who want to be friends with Russia will take offense at us, the more justified are the justifications for why it was impossible to climb into the Crimea and on the basis of which we climbed there. For a long time on this forum I have not read such a burd. The minus to the author is deep. It is impossible to evaluate the results of state steps in a village way
  25. +3
    April 30 2014 09: 47
    the author your arguments are not convincing! you do not admit the idea that the puppeteers are wrong? alarmism does not bring to good!
  26. pink
    +4
    April 30 2014 09: 48
    Thank you VV for correcting the historical mistakes of "our party leaders" Returning Crimea is not a mistake, but a correction
  27. +2
    April 30 2014 09: 53
    And sho? It was not necessary for Russia to annex Crimea. Was it not necessary for the Crimeans to hold a referendum? What is the article about? Did the author decide to philosophize, satisfy his ego?
  28. +2
    April 30 2014 09: 55
    Reshetnikov Eduard, how much did the US State Department pay you? Answer please. And after you answer, put your tongue in your ass ... tsu and do not blather.
  29. +2
    April 30 2014 09: 57
    Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West leverage with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems.


    Archimedes said - "Give me fulcrumand I will turn the Earth with a lever. "
    Even assuming that Crimea is a lever of pressure on Russia. BUT fulcrum - no and not foreseen. wink
  30. +3
    April 30 2014 10: 00
    author, kill yourself up the wall with the zhabodvorsky and others like them.
  31. +9
    April 30 2014 10: 05
    Yeah, they specially gave us Crimea ...))) pffffff !!! What kind of a peyderological monster wrote an article?))) That is why they were pissing out of anger and powerlessness, pouring lies on the referendum, completely misinforming the world about the real state of affairs in Crimea and in Ukraine as a whole, convening countless UN security councils designed like " "naughty Russia. That's why in the UN a terrible American woman almost rushed with fists at Churkin and all sorts of purulent creatures like Lithuania, Poland raged in seizures ... So much expression, how many emotions!))))) Well, the tenders on the website of the US Department of Defense for repairs at school number 5 of Sevastopol)))) Under the intelligence center. Yes, these jackals were already asleep and saw the Crimea as their own, with their naval bases, but they choked, thanks to their own stupidity and arrogance and the absolute insignificance of the junta.

    And finally. my usual day after the reunification of Crimea with Russia:

    Woke up in the morning with a separatist mood. Kneeling in front of a portrait of Putin and earnestly prayed. He hung a necklace of teeth torn from Bandera’s neck. He fed a domestic bear. I drank a cup of tea from the Moscow teahouse on the shares, and went to work on my T-80 personal tank. I work on the basis of the rental of missile boats - rental and leasing. Today I had a good day: I leased to the separatists from Mariupol three missile boats "Mirage", whose missiles, by the way, from the Sea of ​​Azov are even being reached to Donetsk and Lugansk. So, the troops of the Kiev legal power storming them today will have a hard time. At lunchtime, he ate cutlets from innocently killed Lviv babies. For the rest of the day, he cleaned the machine and prepared needles in order to drive supporters of a united Ukraine under the nails. Since I had a good day, after work, I stopped at a car dealership and did what I had dreamed of for a month since the occupation of Crimea by Russia. I changed my T-80 with a surcharge for a new and prestigious T-90. On the way home, shouting “Banderiaku - go to the hill!”, I shot out a peaceful gun of the “Right Sector”, peacefully gathering flowers on a lawn, from a tank gun. Abused the flag of Ukraine in a particularly perverse form. At the entrance, I rode a few times on a tank and crushed the sprouts of Ukrainian independence and uniformity that grew there. He fed the bear, looked at last year’s Victory Parade in YouTube, prayed earnestly in front of Putin’s portrait and went to bed.

    Zhalnin Konstantin Leonidovich, Sevastopol
  32. +2
    April 30 2014 10: 05
    The author is not a Cossack, the author is afraid to lose what has been achieved. And probably he is also happy, like us.

    There was a good article not so long ago, I don’t remember the name exactly, but something like: * Have Putin been lured into a trap. *
    This is from the same series. In fact, he urges not to succumb to euphoria, and rightly so. We are dealing with the most shameless and immoral scum of mankind and you can expect anything from them.

    I think we are not fools either, somehow it has become calmer now.
    And it was just sickening to watch the news of the 90's. Now, sometimes a frank banter.
  33. +4
    April 30 2014 10: 11
    If an air group of 2560 aircraft was assembled for Iraq, then for the “defense" of Ukraine it will be no less. And how many combat aircraft do Russia have? A few hundred.

    Firstly, the general grouping of aviation in our country can be concentrated very decent, not much less than 1000 aircraft, but that's not the point. In Iraq, they are going to win, and they will DESTROY against us. Agree, these are different things!
    Secondly, we have excellent air defense systems that have not yet shown all of their capabilities in combat conditions, we have a very effective counteraction to massive air raids - tactical nuclear weapons used by air defense systems.
    And, most importantly, given that we are inferior in military force to NATO countries (read - to the Americans), in the event of a large-scale military conflict, we will be forced to use our main trump card - strategic nuclear weapons. And our opponents understand this very well.
    I think that no one will fight for destruction over Ukraine.
    Putin clearly drew a red line, beyond which Russia will not retreat: these are the borders of the USSR without the Baltic states. Ukraine is the second attempt, after Georgia, to test Russia for "lice". The test is not over yet, but there is no doubt that we will pass it successfully.
    PS And Crimea is not a gambit, but a dashing and successful cavalry attack! The United States did not sacrifice, but lost what was ready in their hands.
  34. -3
    April 30 2014 10: 16
    The war for the Southeast, we will not pull, But the blue helmets enter the mandate ... This is good.
    1. wax
      0
      April 30 2014 14: 10
      There were-we were with these helmets in Kosovo at EBN. And where now?
  35. +7
    April 30 2014 10: 23
    He just stirred up the water, but didn’t say anything real. Why write an article if you can’t give real and sensible suggestions on how to get out of this situation.
    About gas! If you need to turn off the gas, then we will understand and know why! These people from Kiev buy it for our money, additionally steal it and sell it to the west, and this is no secret. And incomes in Swiss banks lie, not in our budget! That and the author himself is probably "red-haired" (a term meaning a penchant for various orange revolutions there), it seems to me. I wish him what these people tell us, only by paraphrasing! "Ticket, airport, USA". But I would like to add: "And your spirit was not on my land"
  36. +1
    April 30 2014 10: 23
    Is the author mostly nonsense-5 element?
  37. +3
    April 30 2014 10: 25
    The article is a huge minus. What kind of g "andon shit such opuses? In my opinion, it's time to deal with some of the so-called authors am
  38. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    +1
    April 30 2014 10: 30
    There was a smell of masochism from the article: the author, a fan of crushed by organized crime groups (united p.i.s.d.s.s.k.i.kh states), bitterly rebukes Russia, which is so dear to her heart, in the presence of strategic interests and concern for state security ( “... there is some kind of anxiety inside the guide” in high geopolitics). The author’s enlarged tear falls heavily on the keyboard when thinking about the fate of the negotiations in the case of the “aggressor” participant, but his heart softens the thought of the chance that the aggressor missed.
    Russia has been dubbed the aggressor in Ukropia since 1991, so don't get used to it, and we will sign the unconditional surrender of violent fascists with pleasure at the suggestion of our Novorossi brothers!
    It’s impossible, sir writer, to sit on the oncoming trains with one and the same duplex, otherwise the eyes can be squinted by constant lies (as M.A. Bulgakov thought, and I agree).
  39. +1
    April 30 2014 10: 32
    "Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West a lever with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems. And the further scenario of the Ukrainian question will go along a more rigid and unpredictable path."
    I passed the article. The main idea of ​​the article is "Crimea is a cheese in a mousetrap". Only a piece is too FAT. They don't put them in mousetraps!
    After the Crimea returned to Russia, the vrazhin had an additional reason for propaganda cracking. And there were no other reasons? We’ll survive the crackling, do not get used to it. And what are the material consequences? The fleet base is forever, the development of the fleet and the expansion of military presence in the southern regions. The control of the Black Sea. Convenient base for expanding actions in relation to Ukraine. These are only military consequences. The Sea of ​​Azov has actually become the inland sea of ​​Russia. A new resort area has appeared with good prospects (vacation money will remain in Russia and work for the Russian economy). Get more such pieces of cheese as a gift ....
  40. Bare16RUS
    +1
    April 30 2014 10: 36
    It seems to me alone that the Cossack is mishandled?
  41. -1
    April 30 2014 10: 40
    it's funny when they call us "aggressors"; and when we weren't? why Lavrov stupidly justifies himself in this senile organization called the UN that we are not "aggressors", we will always be them, even when a handful of overseas Jewish oligarchs manage to seize our oil and gas fields; and no matter what kind of system we have, we will always be wrong; it is necessary to leave all these sects called the UN OSCE and the like, and Putin does not need to go to these meetings of the clowns of the "big 8" because from their point of view he is 6ka;
  42. +2
    April 30 2014 10: 42
    ... I read, I read, I didn’t finish reading ... The further, the more the soul began to play with the soul ... The author didn’t end the Kiev-Mohyla’s case ????? ....
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 13: 42
      Quote: aleks 62
      ... I read, I read, I didn’t finish reading ... The further, the more the soul began to play with the soul ... The author didn’t end the Kiev-Mohyla’s case ????? ....

      no, it’s a hodor and others like him, it’s not in vain that they arranged a whole council in Kiev, what nonsense to blurt out to break patriotism, and when they got to their thoughts, arouse doubts ....
      now they are trying to break the bright idea of ​​the correct course of our government ...
    2. maevator
      0
      6 May 2014 21: 52
      Tallinn Sailor Ukrsuy Sailor
    3. maevator
      0
      6 May 2014 21: 52
      Tallinn Sailor Ukrsuy Sailor
  43. 0
    April 30 2014 10: 45
    It is easy to introduce "peacekeeping troops", then just try to expel them.

    Author who are you for?
  44. +1
    April 30 2014 10: 52
    I think that everyone present knows that Russia has a veto right to any UN decisions and it will use it to prevent the wrong peacekeepers from coming to Ukraine.
  45. +3
    April 30 2014 10: 57
    The author’s message is naive. It turns out that Russia is betraying its citizens by charging them for gas, water and electricity. For the state, all these benefits fall freebie from heaven.
    And if he doesn’t like the sleek Kiselev let him listen to the unskilled. There are some. laughing

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/870/pida937.jpg
  46. +2
    April 30 2014 11: 14
    I do not think that the author wrote an article with provocative goals. I myself wonder how such a well-developed foreign policy system of the West could have been so justified? All their actions look tailored and sewn with white thread. Amazing ... Thinking is not so simple. Of course, a stupid denouement in style and burn it all with a horse, let's not fight with Russia over Ukraine, as it seems to me. We do not like air defense in Iraq, so we’ll have to stomp our feet, but as they say, who is why we’re with what, that’s why)))
  47. 0
    April 30 2014 11: 17
    Yes, I think we’ll just throw all our hats now. wink
    Now, after our teachings, the West will simply tighten the tail.
  48. +1
    April 30 2014 11: 21
    The author, - to believe in UN peacekeepers, is like believing in Santa Claus. And this Santa Claus is an African American.
  49. +1
    April 30 2014 11: 29
    The author of the article is wrong. The Russians do not surrender their own, even in conditions of fierce confrontation with the West. And Crimea itself returned home.
    1. 0
      6 May 2014 09: 35
      The author speaks about this. And others are calling for turning off the gas or launching a nuclear strike.
  50. 0
    April 30 2014 11: 29
    This article is BSK (bullshit) !!!
    1. 0
      6 May 2014 09: 48
      Probably nonsense. Only now Russia has not yet brought in troops. Politics is not a showdown between two gopniks. And everything is not so simple there. It is more of a chess game than an arrow. Therefore, the article may seem like nonsense. Difficult to understand if measured by the everyday level.
  51. +2
    April 30 2014 11: 32
    Of course, I want to tear Europe and the USA apart so that they don’t yap... But politics is politics, and as it seems at the everyday level, driving Tanks into Kyiv and punching Yaitsenyuk in the face is unlikely to be decided by the government . Politics is a science. Just like mathematics, few of us solve differential equations while sitting at the table, for the sake of pleasure and expression of our emotions. Because many people do not know the different rules for solving various derivatives, differentials, and other things. There is no knowledge base. And here we do not know many pitfalls. And it is better for Russia to act within the framework of international rules. Therefore, peacekeepers are the standard solution. Although for the secondary school the standard is bombing. But we are not the USA.
    And no matter how patriotic I am, I at least admit that the state of our army is not to tear NATO to pieces. I would be glad if someone convinces me. Chesslovo, I will be glad.
    And second, who do you think has influence on the country's leadership? Hard workers? Office plankton? Or are the oligarchs still? And now another question, and our desires and Wishlist coincide with those of the oligarchs?
    That's it. And to cheer, it’s good, but not always appropriate.
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 12: 55
      Unfortunately, my friend, our sworn partners in the world have only one international rule left - the USA and its sycophants are ALWAYS right. and without any points.
      therefore, they must be constantly, firmly and continuously convinced. until the goons understand that Russia and the Russians are not their servants
  52. +1
    April 30 2014 11: 33
    It’s true about a large number of potential enemy aircraft. But war is not fought by planes alone. NATO has a wealth of experience in combat operations, but who were they carried out against? Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Compared to Russia, these are almost unarmed states. They simply cannot fight with us, because... the losses will be colossal, and the need for such sacrifices will be impossible to explain to its population.
  53. serge
    +1
    April 30 2014 11: 35
    Conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The author's balls got stuck behind the rollers.
  54. +1
    April 30 2014 11: 45
    Quote: wks
    Moreover, Lviv or Polish.


    No, our home-grown liberal shitcrat, they have now changed tactics, from open speeches to writing articles and appearing on television. You probably noticed an increase in articles of a certain focus on this site, although they are not popular here. And what is going on on other sites , there are people in the comments who respond to such articles and squeal with joy.
    1. maevator
      0
      5 May 2014 18: 56
      author ukrovsky officer behind the Tallinn sailor
    2. maevator
      0
      5 May 2014 18: 56
      author ukrovsky officer behind the Tallinn sailor
  55. GRune
    +1
    April 30 2014 11: 53
    What a day, one throws hats, this one, on the contrary, drives one into depression, only extremes...
  56. 0
    April 30 2014 12: 05
    I am a person far from politics. Techie. Aviation, tanks, engines are a different matter. But as a person with a technical education, I try to analyze everything. From the article. The author wants to say that the events in Ukraine were planned not only for the sake of Ukraine itself, but also in order to drag Russia into a certain pre-planned scenario. According to the author, it is possible that the return of Crimea was included in it. Somewhat controversial, of course. In addition, the ongoing confrontation between the Ukrainian junta and the Southeast is not beneficial for Russia. Well, if you take into account the development of events, it seems that there is really little good in it. If not, then more knowledgeable people please explain to me.
    Having further analyzed the comments, I came to the conclusion that we need to wait for a very soon active and, judging by the statements, Russia’s forceful solution to the genocide taking place in Ukraine. I wonder what could happen in this case? Will someone explain?
    1. wax
      +1
      April 30 2014 14: 19
      There is no need to wait for a forceful solution from Russia. The export of revolutions has historically not justified itself. Creating chaos is justified. Only Ukrainians themselves can cope with chaos. But the paths to reconciliation within one country have already been cut off by the use of military force from one part of Ukraine against another. We will support pro-Russian forces, the West will support anti-Russian forces. The death of Ukrainian statehood is right on the threshold.
  57. 0
    April 30 2014 12: 12
    Quote: Donskoi
    You shouldn’t say this about a person just because his opinion differs from yours! Everyone has the right to an opinion. I gave the article a plus for its first part. I also don’t entirely agree with “if…”, but that was also an option. There are accusations against Kiselev and the idea of ​​a referendum, but who among us here does not use accusations? So many people, so many opinions. Regarding options: an acquaintance of mine, one of the most active Maidan activists, told or let it slip in one of our disputes that there is a Scenario! (he told about this on the eve of Yanukovych’s flight!!!) And so. Maidan and its victory are a provocation of the West in order to lure Russia (its troops) into Ukraine, then a guerrilla war and the deployment of NATO troops to western Ukraine. Then there are different vectors for the development of events (new centers of color revolutions, the introduction of wax somewhere else...). All these vectors ultimately lead to the dismemberment of Russia, including with the participation of China, Japan, etc... This cannot develop into open confrontation, since there is a nuclear “baton”, BUT if you still stir up a “color revolution” “in Russia itself, then there will be a demoralized country, just like it is now in Ukraine. The president will be eliminated, the army will be confused - no one will press the “button”, since there is no obvious aggressor. After the arrival of the puppets, all neighboring partners with a “clear” conscience will be able to bite off pieces of Russia shouting: “Well, she did it exactly the same way with Ukraine!” “That’s what Russia needs!” - others will shout... How do you like this scenario?! Personally, I am sure that if such things were talked about even on the Maidan in Ukraine, then they are unlikely. If there is some truth in this, then VVP and his team have known about everything for a long time and are playing HIS game, luring the enemy. We will watch and, I am sure, take part in the counter moves of the West. Life is not a completely predictable thing and options need to be calculated, and not stigmatized people for having a different opinion

    I agree with the author of the comment. I don’t agree 100% with the author of the article, but I think his point of view has a place to be. I bet +
  58. Aleksandr65
    0
    April 30 2014 12: 12
    The author, in my opinion, is an ordinary fool.
    1. 0
      6 May 2014 09: 49
      Probably a fool. Only Russia has not yet sent in troops. Politics is not a showdown between two gopniks. And everything is not so simple there. It's more of a chess game than a shooter. Therefore, the article may seem like nonsense. It is difficult to understand if measured at the everyday level.
  59. 0
    April 30 2014 12: 19
    Thus, having received the Crimea, we gave the West a lever with which it will squeeze us out of participation in solving Ukrainian problems. And the further scenario of the Ukrainian question will go along a more rigid and unpredictable path.

    What a strange conclusion in the end.
    From the author’s point of view, if we had not given any reason, but agreed with everything that the West imposes on us and suits us, then he would have no reason to blame us. As if there was no dissolution of the Department of Internal Affairs and the subsequent accession to NATO of all the territories of our former allies?
    But in my opinion, we have lived and gained weight for the last 15 years in order to be able to present all the accumulated claims to the West.
    The West is actively using this salami strategy against us, and as soon as we started doing this, we started screaming.
  60. 0
    April 30 2014 12: 37
    He is afraid of 2560 NATO planes and wants free gas. Then throughout Ukraine there were Russian textbooks and Kyiv was a subject of the Russian Federation along with Sevastopol. With the ironclad prospect of the future border of the Russian Federation in the Lviv region. Yes, and the disappearance of Ukraine as a state.
  61. 0
    April 30 2014 12: 52
    the society of panekers has begun to engage in analysis of world events? The author is clearly an alien from the West and his article is not of this world
  62. shades
    0
    April 30 2014 12: 53
    The author clearly has a short memory. Even before the departure of Crimea, on the Maidan they blamed Russia for all the troubles. Even then, Russia was not perceived as an equal negotiator and they would have simply brushed us aside when peacekeeping forces were brought in, watching as we demanded negotiations to the sound of the wheels of the “trains of friendship.”
    This is called “Kozyrev diplomacy”, to make concessions wherever possible, so as not to think anything bad about us, to the detriment of their interests.
  63. dFG
    0
    April 30 2014 13: 06
    the article is weak, starting from the author’s obvious fear of 2500 NATO aircraft, which in his opinion should be met by 2 hundred aircraft and not layered air defense (and why 200 and not 150, where is the data from) and ending with the inevitability of gas supplies, this is an obvious set-up of the EU type, we count gas according to counter at its border and what is missing from Ukraine is the problem of the Russian Federation)) ... it seems that the author simply worked out the money not very professionally))))
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  65. +1
    April 30 2014 13: 25
    Something happened to the author’s logic. Following his concept, one can come to a very lengthy conclusion. In order for us (Russia in the sense) to be loved in independence, gas should be poured there as cheaply as possible, or better yet, completely free. They spend money on knives, and we give them gas for free. Oh how! And Putin, instead of taking Russian Crimea to Russia, would take and give the Russian Krasnodar region to the maydauns. So that they love. Everyone would be surprised then.
    P.S: I didn’t put pros and cons, because the article is moronic.
  66. 0
    April 30 2014 13: 34
    "Axiom 2. Quote: "By turning off the gas, we will turn it off to the Southeast. For residents of the Southeast, this will be like a betrayal. Many will think that what really matters most to Russia is profit and that in the absence of profit we are ready to abandon them“I wonder, is the boy aware of the scheme for leaking gas to Crimea? And does he know how many gas reserves Crimea now has on its shelf? Therefore, we bury this “Axiom” with sympathetic tears in our eyes.
    "Axiom "3rd. "EMINENCE GRISE". Quote:" No, I’m not saying that the residents of Crimea did not want to go to Russia. They wanted to. And we wanted to see them in Russia too. But I would be interested to know who came up with the idea of ​​holding a referendum at such a convenient moment. Moreover, what is interesting is not who exactly voiced this idea, but who, standing behind him, simply threw this idea forward so that others would accept it as their own. Perhaps there was no such person. But... the option remains". So I’m ready to answer the boy’s question “WHAT?” Yes, me, and millions of other Russian people with all their rallies in support of the referendum on Crimea. List the cities?!! All of Russia called, “Don’t walk under the heel of the flag bearers of Bandera and Shushkevich. And it’s not the Maidan juntas who should tell you how to build your life! Wake up, wake up and go to Russia!” I told them this, and millions of Russians like him. So "look, boy, look... A black cat in a dark room when it's not there. Good luck!"
    So let’s bury the third “Axiom”, awkwardly brushing away a stingy man’s tear.
    Conclusion of my post. So what are the scribblers’ stuffing based on? No matter what!! And I see only one picture with this boy. The little boy wanted to go potty, and then he became constipated. I strained until my eyes (and my mind) darkened. And then (oh Miracle) he luckily emptied himself. And such grace fell upon me that from the excess of feelings a global idea came to my brain: “Shouldn’t I sprinkle something like that, so that all the people of the earth would read it and exclaim: PROPHET!!!” But I have one piece of advice for the boy (the Author): tell your mother about the problems on the potty, she will buy a purgenchik, and all the global problems that make him “swell” will go away by themselves.
  67. +1
    April 30 2014 13: 40
    I read the article. I simply could not resist answering. Two approaches:
    1. Article upon request. This is when you don’t have enough money for entertainment, but you want... Well, I would have written at the end of the article that they say “call me, I’m fulfilling an order.” So we would understand him, the stump is clear. Moreover, not far from such journalists there is a whole layer of ladies with glamorous refrains like “...any whim for your pennies.” However, here everyone has their own choice: to sell themselves or not.
    2. Boy ( Author ) I sculpted myself. Well, here I’ll go through the boy (that is, the Author) from the heart, like a grizz.
    The leitmotif of the article just jumps out of your pants: “The West is more pragmatic and stronger than us (Russians). And, therefore, we (Russians) have nowhere to flutter, and it’s too late.”
    Sensing a certain smell, I went to dig deeper, and from there the boy “sprinkled” these conclusions. And I saw his three “Axioms” (from mathematics: theorems that do not require proof).
    "Axiom "1st. Quote " Give a damn about everything, and still go into a conflict that could escalate into an armed conflict with NATO? Well, we don't have the strength for that! If an air group was assembled for Iraq in 2560 aircraft, then for the “protection” of Ukraine it will be no less. How many combat aircraft does Russia have? Several hundred. Therefore, Russia cannot take any actions that could lead to such a conflict.". Immediately the first question to this "Axiom". From what finger was this sucked (sucked)??? Where did the boy decide to deploy 2 aircraft against Russia? Is it in the Black Sea? And who will let them there from the entire AUG "There are laws for crossing the Bosphorus. Therefore, we brush it aside. Then where to place such a horde? We look at the globe. And what do we see? Only Turkey and Europe. I don’t take the Mediterranean Sea into account, because even with the presence of two US aircraft carriers in it, the Russians condescendingly spat through the lip "let them go...swim...bye." Well, sailors will understand me for the term go for a swim drinks Well, okay, let’s say they tried to deploy 2 aircraft in Geyrope and Turkey. At the same time, the rulers (and people!) of Turkey and the European countries also seem to understand that Russia will not be able to field as many planes in response at the moment. I forgive the boy the number “500 of our planes”, what to take from the poor one... But here even the goat understands that it will not be possible to respond to an armada of 100 planes only with your own planes. You will have to answer asymmetrically. Translated into Russian: “sikoka-sikoka pour grams of TNT equivalent into Iskanders, Clubs and other short-range missiles??? And they will go, first of all, to the airfields of Geyropa and Turkey. And it’s for them do (both the rulers and the people) of these countries need?!? There are not complete fools sitting there, unlike the writing boy.
    Therefore, we close the first “Axiom”, because she only pulls a fart in a puddle.
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      April 30 2014 15: 00
      Well, you waved it. With a preemptive nuclear strike.
      No, I would like to blow everyone away, especially to make a strait between Canada and Mexico, but you’re just imagining that.

      What about 2500 aircraft? Well, of course they will be placed in Turkey, Poland, the Czech Republic, the Balts - the “handsome ones” - will definitely be happy to receive them. This is what is close, but when I served in the Army (in air defense), that year Libya was bombed by F-111s that took off from British territory. They read out the instructions before combat duty.
      I think from Germany to Ukraine it will be no more than 1000 km. Can be done without refueling. So, it is possible to accommodate more than 2500 aircraft. IMHO

      I didn’t find 100 combat aircraft from the Russian Federation in the article. It seems that there was previously an article on this site about 700 combat-ready Russian aircraft. I just don’t remember whether all sorts of transport personnel were included in these 700, or only combat ones.
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    April 30 2014 13: 59
    I am a person far from politics. Techie. Aviation, tanks, engines are a different matter. But as a person with a technical education, I try to analyze everything. From the article. The author wants to say that the events in Ukraine were planned not only for the sake of Ukraine itself, but also in order to drag Russia into a certain pre-planned scenario. According to the author, it is possible that the return of Crimea was included in it. Somewhat controversial, of course. In addition, the ongoing confrontation between the Ukrainian junta and the Southeast is not beneficial for Russia. Well, if you take into account the development of events, it seems that there is really little good in it. If not, then more knowledgeable people please explain to me.
    Having further analyzed the comments, I came to the conclusion that we need to wait for a very soon active and, judging by the statements, Russia’s forceful solution to the genocide taking place in Ukraine. I wonder what could happen in this case? Will someone explain?
  69. 0
    April 30 2014 14: 06
    Was the author at least a little interested in the essence of the processes taking place in the world, their connection with the events in Ukraine? Where do these conclusions come from? What is this anyway? The Marthasniks don’t care about Ukraine at all; they are absolutely not concerned about its future fate or integrity. They pursue completely different goals. As the author rightly noted, only the lazy did not write or speak about Ukraine. So maybe the author should have read everything that was written and listened to what was said?
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      April 30 2014 14: 17
      Are mattress makers worried about the fate of Russia? I think definitely. They sleep and see Russia trampled and torn apart. Could they tear Ukraine apart for this purpose, and then somehow use it to destroy Russia? The author believes that this seems to be the case. It seems that neither you nor he contradicts you laughing
  70. 0
    April 30 2014 14: 10
    The author is one of those who sits and waits for the world to become smarter, kinder and fairer. But he was not, is not and (as it became clear) never will be. Everything will be exactly the opposite. There will be an eternal struggle for peace, for a place in the sun.
    The author, a coward with an open mouth, often discovers that it is not a sandwich from an insolent neighbor.
  71. 0
    April 30 2014 14: 10
    Well, you waved it. With a preemptive nuclear strike.
    No, I would like to blow everyone away, especially to make a strait between Canada and Mexico, but you’re just imagining that.

    What about 2500 aircraft? Well, of course they will be placed in Turkey, Poland, the Czech Republic, the Balts - the “handsome ones” - will definitely be happy to receive them. This is what is close, but when I served in the Army (in air defense), that year Libya was bombed by F-111s that took off from British territory. They read out the instructions before combat duty.
    I think from Germany to Ukraine it will be no more than 1000 km. Can be done without refueling. So, it is possible to accommodate more than 2500 aircraft. IMHO

    I didn’t find 100 combat aircraft from the Russian Federation in the article. It seems that there was previously an article on this site about 700 combat-ready Russian aircraft. I just don’t remember whether all sorts of transport personnel were included in these 700, or only combat ones.
  72. 0
    April 30 2014 14: 10
    I am a person far from politics. Techie. Aviation, tanks, engines are a different matter. But as a person with a technical education, I try to analyze everything. From the article. The author wants to say that the events in Ukraine were planned not only for the sake of Ukraine itself, but also in order to drag Russia into a certain pre-planned scenario. According to the author, it is possible that the return of Crimea was included in it. Somewhat controversial, of course. In addition, the ongoing confrontation between the Ukrainian junta and the Southeast is not beneficial for Russia. Well, if you take into account the development of events, it seems that there is really little good in it. If not, then more knowledgeable people please explain to me.
    Having further analyzed the comments, I came to the conclusion that we need to wait for a very soon active and, judging by the statements, Russia’s forceful solution to the genocide taking place in Ukraine. I wonder what could happen in this case? Will someone explain?
  73. 0
    April 30 2014 15: 10
    "there were more observers and UN troops from Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Belarus and even Finns and Poles, but fewer Americans, British and their vassals"
    Don’t the Poles go under the states? (
  74. +1
    1 May 2014 02: 02
    Well, you are a cunning people, it really takes you by surprise. Everyone thinks everyone else is a freak despite himself
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    5 May 2014 19: 09
    Why did everyone attack the author? Look on VKontakte who and what graduated from the Naval Sea Square
















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    6 May 2014 09: 38
    What to look at and where???? Didn't understand...

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