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Disruption of supply "Mistral" threatens France with a serious fine

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As the RIA News"The Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov once again voiced the Russian position in the event of the official refusal of France to supply the Mistral helicopter carriers.


“They are obliged to hand them over to us at the end of the year, there was no official refusal. Any official refusal - and there will be a consequence from our side, we will present considerable penalties, ”he said.

However, according to the director of the state defense order department of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Anatoly Shlemov, at the moment there are no prerequisites for France to give up its obligations.

“Two Mistral-type ships are being built in accordance with the concluded contracts. The first will be based on the Pacific navy. He successfully completed three trips to the sea, is now preparing for the fourth, and I have no doubt that he will be delivered on time. I have no doubts about the implementation of this contract, ”he said on the air. "Echo of Moscow".

As recalled "Morning.RU", 18 on April on the French television channel TF1 was made by the French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, who called the situation in Crimea "the biggest crisis since the cold war," not excluding the "military response to Russian actions." Later, a message appeared in his Twitter message that it was necessary for France to suspend the delivery of two Mistrals to Russia, which are being built in Saint-Nazaire.

A little later, the situation was commented on by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who said that if France waived its obligations, it would have to return all the funds transferred. However, he noted that "after such statements, in any case, there was an unpleasant aftertaste."

Russia and France have signed a contract worth 1.2 billion euros, providing for the construction of two Mistral-type helicopter carriers for the Russian Navy, in 2011 year. They build on the STX shipyard in Saint-Nazaire. The first ship "Vladivostok" of the Russian Navy will have to receive at the end of 2014 of the year, and the second - Sevastopol - until the end of 2016 of the year.

The helicopter carrier of the Mistral type is considered one of the most advanced ships of its class. Its displacement is 21 thousand tons, length - 210 meters, speed - up to 18 nodes, and cruising range - up to 20 thousand miles. The number of command ship 170 people. As part of the air group 16 helicopters, six of them can simultaneously be accommodated on the takeoff deck.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 29 2014 07: 35
    +23
    They put the Mistral well, do not put even better hi
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 29 2014 07: 42
      +8
      They deliver Mistral well, do not put even better hi
      build yourself even better.
      1. Alexey N
        Alexey N April 29 2014 07: 50
        0
        And more, for the same money.
        1. lelikas
          lelikas April 29 2014 09: 22
          +11
          Quote: Alexey N
          And more, for the same money.

          And twenty years later ...
          1. Zlodeey
            Zlodeey April 29 2014 11: 14
            +5
            And twenty years later ...

            We can not disagree. With the current loading, the shipyards also.
          2. jagdpanzer
            jagdpanzer April 29 2014 20: 34
            +1
            And twenty years later
            maybe ...
      2. gispanec
        gispanec April 29 2014 08: 42
        +2
        Quote: platitsyn70
        build yourself even better.

        ?? ... that we ourselves will build better ?? ... more beautiful ?? ... faster ?? .. cheaper ??? .... horseradish we ourselves will build this in the next 10 years ... but we need yesterday .....
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 09: 12
          +7
          Quote: gispanec
          ..a need yesterday ...

          what did you want yesterday? "mistrals" or what? and explain what for? only reasoned please! no whims, bored! laughing
          1. gispanec
            gispanec April 29 2014 09: 23
            -5
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            No whims, no need !!!

            so you started to be naughty and at the same time you are trying to conduct a dialogue ..... to ignore! ... by the way .... sorry for the question ... and what do you have to do with the Navy ... served ... worked ... developing
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 09: 53
              +8
              Quote: gispanec
              and what do you have to do with the Navy ... served ... worked.

              himself in the air force, and in the navy sons and nephews ... hi to ignore, so to ignore! adyes! hi
          2. lelikas
            lelikas April 29 2014 09: 37
            +5
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            what did you want yesterday? "mistrals" or what? and explain what for? only reasoned please! no whims, bored!

            If it’s completely without whims - in the landing fleet, a slow but loyal ass comes — and it seems to me that many smart people at the headquarters of the Navy see this. Over the past ten years, we have built one BDK - Gren - although this is closer to masturbation than to construction. While we are building only small DK.
            Of those that shuttled to Syria, half will require repair.
            If you hope that the marines themselves will sail on the sea in their armored personnel carriers?
            For once, we decided to buy something that would pull the development of the fleet - we immediately found patriots striking with the heel in the chest - Mistral shit once, twice, once ...
            For a minute - they are half built with us - which also gives ours both experience and money.
            Everything could not be easier.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 09: 57
              +4
              Quote: lelikas
              For a minute - they are half built with us - which also gives ours both experience and money.
              - all! the only plus! and the "mistral" is not for carrying the armored personnel carrier! it's the same "helicopter carrier" ... well, and the headquarters ...
              1. lelikas
                lelikas April 29 2014 10: 50
                +3
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                and the "mistral" is not for carrying the armored personnel carrier! it's the same "helicopter carrier" ... well, and the headquarters ...

                First of all, it is an amphibious assault, about armored personnel carriers - it meant a way to travel in the absence of ships;).
                And yes, on the lower deck he has up to 11 tanks, on the upper two up to 35 armored personnel carriers - a generally useless trough.
              2. gispanec
                gispanec April 29 2014 18: 27
                +2
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                - all! the only plus! and the "mistral" is not for carrying the armored personnel carrier! it's the same "helicopter carrier" ... well, and the headquarters ...

                ... hmm ...)) Well, list the tads further ... this is the hospital ... this is the Syto and Syrian express (the rest is not long) .... this is the project and the projection of intentions (our civilian sailors often began to fall into prisons in African countries .... this is also the ship that can hang out on the coast of Cuba ... Guatemala ... Honduras ... Argentines ... and not just hang out and show what our turntables are capable of ... which are very different Latinos need it .... this is the MISTRAL ... which can hint Turkey with its projection on fulfilling the obligations to find warships in the Black Sea ... yes, what a dofigisa ... ask DV ... there is this how you her disrespectfully call a barge .... can constantly conduct exercises in the Iturup Islands ..... Japs, it will be another splinter and the fervor will cool .... their work is up to their throat ... and they cost big money and the very fact of quick construction which is not yet possible with us ... and the fact that we are building almost half and the fact that under it we produce naval helicopter aviation .. . yes to a fig what else .....
      3. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik April 29 2014 10: 34
        +3
        Not enough power. Objectively. Now everything is loaded.
        1. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik April 29 2014 10: 34
          +3
          Now if the shipyard in Nikolaev ... well, this is from the category of fiction recourse
    2. Rerih42rus
      Rerih42rus April 29 2014 07: 50
      +5
      Let the Mistrals put themselves in the ass !!! I’m wondering how the workers will be explained, when staff are cut, why are they fired because Crimea has come?
    3. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch April 29 2014 07: 56
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They put the Mistral well, do not put even better hi


      How will we return the money? Through the Basmanny Court? laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 29 2014 08: 04
        +10
        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        How will we return the money?

        I don’t know, we'll take something. Or the EU will collapse winked
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov April 29 2014 08: 11
          +6
          Give a referendum in Champagne! Polite people in Goskoni ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 29 2014 08: 27
            +9
            Quote: klimpopov
            Polite people in Goskoni

            Klim, why send them there. You just need to impose sanctions against Barozu, Ashton and all EU bodies, talk only with the presidents of the EU countries. And recognize all EU bodies as not legitimate and the EU itself will bite at the seams.
            A referendum will be held in Brussels wink
            Hi
            1. kartalovkolya
              kartalovkolya April 29 2014 08: 37
              +7
              Let me remind you that when concluding a contract for the construction of the Mistrals, a special point stipulates financial sanctions for non-fulfillment of conditions or cancellation of the contract. So for any French in deep ----.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch April 29 2014 09: 47
                +5
                Here, some state senators expressed the following idea:
                -And how will Russia take away our debt? Well, in general, the hint is clear.
            2. klimpopov
              klimpopov April 29 2014 08: 37
              +3
              A referendum will be held in Brussels

              By the accession of the States to India wassat and what a very ...
              Hi!
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 29 2014 09: 44
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I don’t know, we'll take something. Or the EU will collapse


          Kazan took, Astrakhan took, Crimea took, Shpaka-did not take request
      2. kotyara
        kotyara April 29 2014 08: 38
        +2
        Freeze French assets!
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 29 2014 09: 47
          +1
          Quote: cat
          Freeze French assets!


          ... together with France laughing
      3. gispanec
        gispanec April 29 2014 08: 43
        +5
        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        How will we return the money? Through the Basmanny Court?

        Yes, no matter how .... there will simply be a 15-25 year old lawsuit ..... and we do not have ships and grandmas ... the question is and who?
        1. BYV
          BYV April 29 2014 09: 04
          +3
          Quote: gispanec
          Yes, no matter how .... there will simply be an 15-25 summer lawsuit ..... but we have no ships and grandmas ...

          Fiercely plus. What are the penalties, what international law, what are you talking about? How do you imagine suing the French? Is there a clause in the contract? Well, about the release of the occupied buildings and disarmament, it also seems to have been prescribed. Moreover, it is spelled out so that any NORMAL person has no double interpretations. At present, there is no international law. There is only the right of the strong, and there is a frank international scam.
          1. skiff-xnumx
            skiff-xnumx April 29 2014 12: 03
            +3
            There is little accuracy. The contract is concluded between firms with state support, and not between states. Moreover, the Koreans own a French shipyard, and this is a blow to the reputation and the outflow of contracts to China as more independent from the political wind. Given that the Koreans are currently leaders in shipbuilding and are competing with China, they do not need these swings. So they will build and deliver on time and will still kiss in all indecent places. Nothing personal, just business. And politics is sideways.
          2. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish April 29 2014 12: 25
            +1
            Yes, Kortavyev will not go to such a thing ... If they don’t give us the ships, then they will have to give grandmas anyway !!! France is the largest supplier of military equipment and orders are made not only by us ... If they give us a ride with the Mistrals, then they have hell who wants to buy the equipment! If they threw one today, then what prevents them from throwing any other tomorrow? The reputation will suffer ... and the soul-makers understand this too!
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 29 2014 09: 48
          +1
          Quote: gispanec
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          How will we return the money? Through the Basmanny Court?

          Yes, no matter how .... there will simply be a 15-25 year old lawsuit ..... and we do not have ships and grandmas ... the question is and who?


          So what am I talking about?
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 09: 21
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They put the Mistral well, do not put even better hi

      I think they will lay the bones, but these troughs will still be made and passed on ... everyone here understands that the floating tanks will not strengthen any defense, and the deal is trump for the French! hi
  2. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay April 29 2014 07: 36
    +5
    Rogozin should have tweeted about Russia's desire to reconsider the embargo on the supply of S-300 to Iran. What then do the gentlemen of the sanctionists cry out for?
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 29 2014 07: 43
      +8
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Rogozin should have tweeted about Russia's desire to reconsider the embargo on the supply of S-300 to Iran. What then do the gentlemen of the sanctionists cry out for?


      Rogozin answered another attack of the Americans.
      "Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin on Monday, April 28, announced Russia's readiness to respond to US sanctions against enterprises of the Russian space industry.
      "The United States imposed sanctions against our space industry. But God knows, we warned them: we will respond to a statement with a statement, to actions - with action," Rogozin wrote on his Facebook page.
      http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1722969/
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 29 2014 07: 49
        +6
        Quote: mamont5
        . But God sees, we warned them:

        I hope to answer not only in words.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 07: 38
    +1
    money ... we would have four TFR would probably come out ... hi
    1. skiff-xnumx
      skiff-xnumx April 29 2014 12: 11
      0
      And why do we need TFR (in the modern classification of a corvette) in those shipyards, and with that money you need and can build ships with a displacement of 8-10 tons. And this is much more interesting than these barges, though necessary
  4. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 29 2014 07: 39
    +4
    Let them shove them into the "bay", for the loot that was dumped for these troughs, we will build our own ships and give work to our shipbuilders !! Whatever one may do, the situation is stalemate among the paddling pool !!! Let them thank their stripes for this laughing to my friends !!!
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 April 29 2014 10: 48
      0
      take the first one, let them keep the second ... they’ll reject it anyway
  5. gandalf
    gandalf April 29 2014 07: 39
    +2
    I would like the French not to lose money (build) and the Yankees to provide an intimate service.

    Let's see how they get it. wink
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2014 07: 40
      +1
      Quote: gandalf
      provide an intimate service.

      here they have no equal ... wassat
  6. Humpty
    Humpty April 29 2014 07: 42
    +6
    An amazing situation with these Mistrals. Both the supply of these ships and their disruption are satisfied. Only to the French, both are dung. If they supply them to Russia, it means they are helping the "evil Russians", they will not supply them, since there is no one else to sell them to - continuous losses.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 29 2014 08: 26
      +4
      Quote: Humpty
      An amazing situation with these Mistrals. Both the supply of these ships and their disruption are satisfied. Only to the French, both are dung. If they supply them to Russia, it means they are helping the "evil Russians", they will not supply them, since there is no one else to sell them to - continuous losses.

      But they won’t deliver, strikes of those left without work, direct losses of billions, and elections in France on the nose will take place across the country ............... for some, the political future will end immediately.
      Not to mention purely the economic damage to the country, and the image losses will be enormous, who will buy from France? So, wherever you look, there’s an ambush everywhere ............
  7. Bayonet
    Bayonet April 29 2014 07: 42
    +5
    America is America, and they won’t put it in their pocket!
    1. from punk
      from punk April 29 2014 08: 30
      +2
      and here I would argue. especially what concerns France, or rather its president. He has already shown how he relates to problems within the country. Evening strikes. But gay are satisfied
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 29 2014 09: 13
        +2
        Mistral is not built by the president and not with his own money. Businesses that have signed this contract for 1.2 billion euros are unlikely to want to incur losses, and even pay a forfeit.
  8. Alez
    Alez April 29 2014 07: 42
    +1
    We got the French with their statements, either put, or not put. America's political whore with her half-poker president.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 29 2014 09: 15
      +1
      Why call the whole country a whore? Call the president .... whatever.
  9. Zelen
    Zelen April 29 2014 07: 55
    -1
    I don’t understand why they are for us, it would be better if we built a normal tact
    1. clidon
      clidon April 29 2014 08: 04
      +1
      Such an amount (1,2 billion euros) for TAKR is not enough.
  10. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 29 2014 08: 15
    +1
    Well then, try it. Right, Putin said yesterday about import substitution. Yes, it is difficult. Yes, it will take time. But we will become strong and self-sufficient. And you? What is your EU without Russia?
  11. Simon
    Simon April 29 2014 08: 17
    0
    In, the French got, if they do not fulfill the Russian order! belay The price of being a vassal of the Americans. laughing tongue
  12. Baikal
    Baikal April 29 2014 08: 18
    0
    Anatoly Shlemov, at the moment there are no prerequisites for France going to abandon its obligations

    Well, if there are no prerequisites, why tryndet about it constantly? They were warned once, why chew something. It will be the case - then take the French for testicles, and so la-la-la ...
  13. jekasimf
    jekasimf April 29 2014 08: 23
    0
    In fact, these Mistrals are potential TAKRs. After a minor completion of the deck ??? Any shipbuilding plant can do this completion in a week. Use MIGs with a short take-off. It’s certainly not a full-fledged aircraft carrier, but it already exists. I read somewhere that they designed, with the possibility of alteration for a light aircraft carrier.
    http://topwar.ru/23486-ispolzuem-mistral-kakavianosec.html
    1. clidon
      clidon April 29 2014 09: 09
      +1
      Migi from such a short deck will not take off. We simply do not have VTOL.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz April 29 2014 09: 15
        0
        A great occasion for the revival of the Yak-141 or Su-47 good
        1. clidon
          clidon April 29 2014 16: 04
          0
          Why would we fence a separate car for a couple of ships? It will be cheaper to build normal aircraft carriers, and leave the Mistrals for helicopters.
      2. jekasimf
        jekasimf April 29 2014 09: 57
        0
        Taking into account the growing of the deck and springboard, the length of the VP strip is comparable to Kuznetsov.
        1. skiff-xnumx
          skiff-xnumx April 29 2014 12: 21
          0
          Even taking into account the build-up of the deck and the springboard, he will never even accept planes vertically. Different loads on the deck during take-off landing. Different weights la. Other lifting capacity. The height of the hangar and openings. And the deck at take-off vertical must be cooled. A sailor with a bucket of water is not an option. And another 1000 design differences. So it's easier to build a new one than redoing this
  14. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 29 2014 08: 28
    +1
    Admiral Komoyedov said that these ships of the Navy are not needed and they do not fit into our naval doctrine. But there’s no one to ask for 1.2 billion wasted. Despite the fact that we do not have a modern destroyer, and the obsolete Sarychs are fun, supposedly there is no money to replace the boilers. For reference in the United States, only Arly Burke-62 type. One such called Liver from Perry hangs out in the Black Sea.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 29 2014 08: 46
      +4
      Quote: Cossacks
      Admiral Komoyedov said

      and Rogozin said that on the moon we will build greenhouses and we will grow cucumbers ..... 7 meters ...
  15. Strashila
    Strashila April 29 2014 08: 29
    -1
    Let's knock on the tree ... let them fall. How much money we save on abandoning their infrastructure ... and we’ll cut down fines not frail.
  16. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 29 2014 08: 31
    +2
    Yes, they put these Mistral, will not go anywhere! Surely something, but the French know how to count money, only a fool will refuse such an order!
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 29 2014 08: 47
      -2
      Quote: Roman1970
      Yes, they put these Mistral, will not go anywhere! Surely something, but the French know how to count money, only a fool will refuse such an order!

      +100
      1. gispanec
        gispanec April 29 2014 18: 41
        0
        Quote: Roman1970
        Yes, they put these Mistral, will not go anywhere! Surely something, but the French know how to count money, only a fool will refuse such an order!

        Roma writes this and gets 2 +
        Quote: gispanec
        +100

        I agree with him and get 2-
        The conclusion? ... is simple ... we have 2 goblins here who minus not by post but by nickname ..
  17. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 29 2014 08: 34
    0
    Let them give the Mistral, otherwise the money will have to be returned through the courts, and this is a long process.
  18. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 29 2014 08: 38
    +1
    We do not need the Mistral. Let not deliver. It is necessary to build their own UDC, and it is economically profitable, they also seem to pay a penalty of about 80%.
    1. skiff-xnumx
      skiff-xnumx April 29 2014 12: 24
      +1
      Name at least one shipyard which is now capable of overpowering such an order in forty-four years and not disrupt other projects
  19. annodomene
    annodomene April 29 2014 08: 43
    +2
    Return? In my opinion, it’s better to take it away, by force ...
  20. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 29 2014 08: 55
    0
    I do not believe in loud statements on both sides. People in office say what they should say.

    Here it’s interesting how it is spelled out in the contract ... what will happen FOR NON-EXECUTION, how to interpret FORMAZHAJOR and other contractual routines.
    But there was no confidence in the competent preparation of the document; senior officials too showed interest in the transaction.

    LOOK LIKE IT.
  21. KAVS
    KAVS April 29 2014 09: 19
    0
    Who ordered them at all, for what purpose and what tasks they will carry out for us is unclear!
  22. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 29 2014 09: 27
    0
    I think we’ll get all the Mistrals on time.
    If the French are screwed up like that, they will NEVER, ANYBODY, SELL ANYTHING, and they also understand this adorningly.
  23. Good cat
    Good cat April 29 2014 09: 28
    0
    Okay, don’t swear, the Frenchmen for the states will swear, and the boats will be delivered on time, they will strangle themselves for grandmas
  24. Yankuz
    Yankuz April 29 2014 09: 32
    0
    Mistral needed, not needed - what a difference! Here is a question of principle - they have come upon us. European penalties are one thing. But the penalties in the understanding of Russia this time will end on the shores of the Atlantic. In short, they won’t get off!
  25. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 29 2014 09: 39
    +1
    The French))) or the damn paddling pool ???? now let's see what we trade
    1. France imports to Russia
    The main imported goods: aircraft; medicines, vaccines and serums; perfumes and cosmetics, food products (cognac, grape wines, cheeses, cream, fresh pork, animal feed, apples), cars, their parts and accessories, bodies, heating equipment, full-rotary machines, electrical equipment for switching or protecting electrical chains, power plants, plant protection products, flat products from alloy steels and ferrous metal products, pump and compressor equipment, internal combustion engines, hoisting-and-transport f equipment, binders used in metallurgy, centrifuges and filtering devices, fittings for pipelines and boilers, meteorological, hydrological and geophysical electronic devices and tools, tractors, machines and devices for soldering and welding, medical equipment; machines and mechanisms having individual functions; heterocyclic compounds.
    2. Russia to France:
    According to the results of the 2012 year, the main share in the structure of Russian exports to France is accounted for by mineral products (mainly products of the fuel and energy complex) - 89,3% of the total export volume.
    The share of chemical industry products is 4,2%, metals and products from them - 2,1%; equipment, machinery and vehicles - 2,2%.
    The main export goods: oil products, natural gas, crude oil, coal, soybean oil and its fractions.

    whether or not to conflict with the French is a difficult question. On the one hand, they supply us with high-tech finished products. But they are not the only ones .... France’s other countries will be happy to occupy the niche of France (well, and ultimately we need to raise our production), but the French will seriously suffer without our raw materials - winter is ahead, and cold ...... and what will they make their cars and devices from? to whom to sell their wines and perfumes?
  26. vovan50
    vovan50 April 29 2014 09: 56
    0
    With regard to the sanctions, it is necessary to establish a medal "For US Sanctions."
    On the reverse side, write "I serve Russia" or "We will win our just cause." To reward all sanctioned individuals - individuals can be proud of such an award. Legal entities can use the award to advertise their company.
  27. kelevra
    kelevra April 29 2014 12: 47
    0
    Let only the paddlers give up their obligations, immediately understand with fines that this will be a devastating blow to their economy!
  28. Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 29 2014 16: 39
    -1
    Another reason not to feed the workers of other countries, but to give jobs and their own.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 29 2014 18: 58
      -1
      Quote: everest2014
      Another reason not to feed the workers of other countries, but to give jobs and their own.

      and you already consider Kaliningraders NOT OWN ?? ?? ... they will triple the Mistral ..... poop in particular ....
  29. Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 29 2014 23: 20
    -1
    Quote: gispanec
    and you already consider Kaliningraders NOT OWN ?? ?? ... they will triple the Mistral ..... poop in particular ....

    Is Mistral a Kaliningrad development? Monsieur, stop taking hard drugs.

    Universal landing craft of the Mistral type (French: BPC de la classe Mistral) - a class of universal landing helicopter carrier ships that are in service with the French Navy.

    It was planned to build some pieces in the Russian Federation. I am interested in another, who in his mind would buy a car spare parts for which are made in different parts of the globe? Doors in Zimbabwe, valves in Canada, piston doors in China etc? WHO?

    Read the link below for the night, Desdemona.
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Универсальные_десантные_ко
  30. rudolff
    rudolff April 29 2014 23: 25
    +1
    Aft was made in the Baltic. Kaliningrad has nothing to do with it.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 30 2014 06: 25
      -1
      Quote: rudolff
      in the Baltic. Kaliningrad has nothing to do with

      consequently the French built ?? ... not our hard workers ?? ... it was a question of nationality and belonging of the workers ...
      Quote: everest2014
      It was planned to build some pieces in the Russian Federation. I'm interested in something else

      not some pieces, but specifically FOOD and to Sevastopol and Vladivostok and it was not planned to be built ... well, if you are interested in something else, then go to another troll branch
  31. Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 30 2014 10: 24
    -1
    Quote: gispanec
    consequently the French built ?? ... not our hard workers ?? ... it was a question of nationality and belonging of the workers ...

    Man, and sobsno rejection of the Mistral will automatically fire our workers? You do not just eat your head.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 30 2014 14: 09
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      Quote: everest2014
      Man, and sobsno rejection of the Mistral will automatically fire our workers? You do not just eat your head.

      Uncle ... and hde I talked about this or at least hinted that you are our troll, I just said that Mistral is + and not - both for the fleet and for our hard workers ....
      quote
      Quote: everest2014
      Another reason not to feed the workers of other countries, but to give jobs and their own.

      my
      Quote: gispanec
      and you already consider Kaliningraders NOT OWN ?? ?? ... they will triple the Mistral ..... poop in particular ....

      your troll
      Quote: everest2014
      Is Mistral a Kaliningrad development? Monsieur, stop taking hard drugs.

      my
      Quote: gispanec
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      Quote: rudolff on the Baltic. Kaliningrad did not consequently build the French ?? ... not our hard workers ?? ... it was a question of nationality and belonging of the workers ...

      in short ... I do not advise you to smoke and drink ..... read, learn and catch the idea
  32. Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 30 2014 19: 41
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    Quote: gispanec
    Uncle ... and hde I talked about it or at least hinted that you are our troll, I just said that Mistral is + and not - both for the fleet and for our hard workers .... quote


    You think with one half of your brain, I'm sure. If the production of amphibious assault ships will be entirely Russian, WHO WILL THE NECK LOSE FROM THIS? Let me change my words in places to make it sur. Idiot, the conversation is over with you.