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Great Ukrainian Revolution

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Great Ukrainian Revolution



When politicians try to realize their fantasies, or to keep crumbling political structures, disasters occur. Napoleon's talent was powerless, when he set out to conquer Russia, it all ended in the catastrophe of France. When President V.Yanukovych in the winter of 2013 / 14 tried to preserve “united Ukraine”, he barely saved his life, and Ukrainian statehood was destroyed: it lost legitimacy in the eyes of the people. No matter how much Washington and its vassals pretend that it is “in fact”.

In fact, there is a putsch regime of Bandera neo-Nazis, who came to power through an armed coup d'état with the support of Washington. But this is not statehood at all, although the Kiev junta is trying, of course, to give its power to "statehood."

Politics is the art of the possible, and the task of the statesman is to understand what is possible and what is impossible. Kutuzov passed Moscow to "win" Russia. If Yanukovych surrendered Kiev to the opposition, and left Kharkov, or Donetsk, in the first capital of Ukraine, when he was still holding the threads of government, somewhere under the new 2014 year, he would have good chances to “win” Ukraine, save his country , on new grounds, of course. But Yanukovych is not Kutuzov, and as a result, Ukraine is on the verge of a civil war, that is, a revolution ...

By and large, Yanukovych fell victim to his dream of a united and independent Ukraine, which it inherited from its predecessors. This was his only consistent position with the beginning of Euromaidan, he constantly talked about it, and appealed to the mind of the opposition. At that, she caught him: “the old Ukraine” was not needed by the opposition, it was fulfilling Washington’s order to build a new “Euro-Ukraine”. Therefore, the opposition has brazenly discarded and broke off the constant compromises and concessions of Yanukovych - and Yanukovych went to his catastrophe ...

... If Yanukovych went to Kharkov, he would have good chances to preserve his Ukraine on federal lines. Relying on the South-East, he could talk to opposition Kiev not only as a legitimate president, but also from a position of strength, and therefore could force opposition Kiev to preserve Ukraine on its principles, because all of Ukraine’s industrial potential would stand behind it, and Russia. But Yanukovych is not Kutuzov ...

And the “old”, relatively independent, “multipolar”, Ukrainian statehood went along with Yanukovych. Now there is a struggle for the new statehood of Ukraine, the question of what it will be is being resolved. Such issues are not resolved by legal means; this is not a legal or legal issue. This is a question of political struggle, which is unfolding today in Ukraine.

What is this "oil painting"? After the coup, the whole of Ukraine is in a “cocked” state: a coup in Kiev created the conditions for a real - spontaneous revolution in Ukraine. The Donbass rebelled first, but this is only its vanguard, it turned out to be just the least controlled by the coup and politically motivated.

In general, the Ukrainian revolution was expected by political scientists with the beginning of “economic euroreforms”, when the people would have tasted their fruits, and found themselves on the street. But the political repressions in the Donbass — when instead of at least an ostentatious dialogue, abductions — arrests of CIA-SBU activists — began to “decapitate the protest” —they accelerated the beginning of the revolution, and she immediately took up weapon. The Kiev junta, and the American embassy in Kiev, made a big mistake here: the exported US "controlled chaos" lost as a result of its "management" in the South-East of Ukraine.

And the first phase of the Ukrainian revolution began: a dual power was established in the country, and even a lot of power, considering the regions. It is hard not to notice that such a development of a revolutionary situation painfully reminds of the 1917 revolution of the year after the February coup in St. Petersburg, when the dual power of the Soviets of Deputies and the Provisional Government was established. In the Donbass, dual power is a tangible opposition of the Kiev junta and the people's republics, which are now fighting for influence on the old government mechanisms of governance. Donetsk residents at home, so the junta is doomed to defeat.

But in the West of Ukraine and even in Kiev - also dual power. The real power, especially on the ground, is in the “Heroes of Maidan”, that is, in the “Right Sector” Yarosh and other neo-Nazi parties, relying on ideological fighters and fahrions in the Verkhovna Rada. The official power is from the “Batkivshchyna” party of Yulia Tymoshenko, which relies on its “electorate” and captured state structures that are extremely unreliable after a coup d'etat. Therefore, they have to be strengthened by the Bandera “commissioners”, although this may turn out to be the most unpleasant consequences for “Batkivschyna”.

It is important that the base of the Bandera, relying on the western regions, is more durable than that of the “Batkivschyna”, the latter have “fronts” everywhere now. Contradictions within this “coalition” are still arrested by the common American leadership, but such a unity can easily explode a revolutionary all-Ukrainian process underway, and Washington can “throw” it. It is very suspicious that, despite all the assurances of the State Department in love, there are no promised loans, so the junta's gold reserves are rapidly melting. And if the chieftain in Ukraine does not have a “gold reserve”, then there will be a “wedding in Malinovka” ...

There is another strange aspect of US policy in Ukraine. In the presidential election, it would be logical for Washington to support the strongest and most respectable player - “Batkivschyna”, that is, Yulia Tymoshenko, with all its weaknesses, but Washington demonstratively relies on Petro Poroshenko, a lonely billionaire wolf of Ukrainian politics.

Such a bet on the politically "weakest" is an obvious impetus to the destabilization of the opposition, through the introduction of contention in its already disorderly ranks. Political scientists have already started talking about the lack of interest of the “mistress” in the presidential elections, and she herself - about the possibility of electing the president of Ukraine by the Verkhovna Rada, where “Batkivshchyna” has a clear majority.

In general, the presidential elections in Ukraine in a situation of confrontation between different parts of the country, widespread political tension, which took the form of even armed confrontation, in other words, is gaining strength of the revolution - this is the way to split the country. Any outcome of the elections will strengthen the centrifugal processes, and forceful suppression will lose all legitimacy: some regions either do not recognize the elections themselves, or their results.

Preventing the revolution and thereby preserving Ukraine in some format could be negotiations between its West and East, for example, around the Constitutional reform. This option was proposed in the Agreement of Yanukovych and the opposition from February 21, but it is precisely this saving path for the country from the threshold that the Kiev junta rejects. She owns Napoleon’s dreams to crush the whole of Ukraine, to impose the power of Bandera’s Maidan on the South-East.

In this, the junta hopes for America’s help, but America’s factor balances Russia, and it is much closer and more interested in this situation than Washington: after all, it all happens on its borders! And no sanctions of the whole world will change the position of Russia: the power of the Bandera neo-Nazis in the Donbass is unacceptable for it, the forceful suppression of the Donbass is unacceptable.

So, by the will of circumstances and Napoleon's dreams, Ukraine goes into revolution at the beginning of the XXI century, that is, it is given to the will of God, for the voice of an armed people is the voice of God.
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  1. Humpty
    Humpty April 29 2014 07: 52
    +30
    The origins of ukro-statehood.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 April 29 2014 08: 23
      +20
      At its birth, Ukraine was already dead, was born dead, so to speak.
      1. Kite
        Kite April 29 2014 11: 28
        +6
        Quote: Igor39
        At its birth, Ukraine was already dead ......

        - possibly! They would call the country not the outskirts, but some kind of Narnia; they would not have to jump, proving their difference from the Russians. Gotcha! The peninsula broke away from such shaking and formed a fault in the southeast. And after all, everything will not calm down until the country is split into small pieces! am
        1. tundra
          tundra April 29 2014 12: 12
          +7
          Yes hi jumping dob.b.o.o.by .... we didn’t start it. For what (they) fought for it and ran into it.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 49
            +12
            Quote: tundra
            Yes hi jumping do.l.b.o.ё.by ....


            Golden eagle also thinks so.
            1. The point
              The point April 29 2014 14: 26
              +6
              Russian Orthodox Church in solidarity with Golden Eagle
        2. Day 11
          Day 11 April 29 2014 13: 38
          +12
          Walk the flaw!
          1. pavel_SPB
            pavel_SPB April 29 2014 14: 24
            +5
            ATP, laughed heartily
          2. Naval
            Naval April 29 2014 21: 29
            +4
            Bravo!! Galicia may well ask to join Zimbabwe. It seems that this is the proto-Ukrainians. laughing
      2. Akulina
        Akulina April 30 2014 22: 04
        +1
        This is exactly what you call the boat - so it will float. What is this name for the country - Outskirts. There is no core, no core - just small-town squabbles of lads on the outskirts of the Empire, and this is a whole 23 years ... Just a fat piece broke off - so it lasted a long time. They were offended by the name Little Russia - and what's so offensive, the root is RUSSIA. We would constantly repeat our native, hereditary name - we could not forget where our common roots are. You look and get something good. And so - a complete failure .. And the funniest thing is that Russia will again have to disentangle - swearing, cursed a hundred times ... Okay, we are not such g.v. obnoxious and touchy as some. "We will never be brothers .." - no, well, you think, what a young fool. We'll be where we'll go ...
    2. yan
      yan April 29 2014 08: 27
      +28
      Goals of the West To break the unity of kindred peoples, to distort history, and to break apart. Ukraine should change her mind
    3. Validator
      Validator April 29 2014 10: 53
      +20
      Yanek wanted to stay in Kharkov. But his Hepa and Dopa were betrayed. The stronghold asked for weapons, they didn’t give it, they agreed with Kalomoysky behind him. So there were no options.
    4. The point
      The point April 29 2014 14: 24
      +2
      Adik came at one time ... in general, she died.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: Maksud
        Adik came at one time ... in general, she died.


        Here in the USA it’s not calm ---
        Wild West: Nevada "militias" hold their own



        zinc - http://ria.ru/world/20140425/1005497676.html
  2. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga April 29 2014 07: 59
    +11
    By and large, Yanukovych fell victim to his dream of a united and independent Ukraine

    Whatever anyone says, Yanukovych did not fall victim to "dreams", his removal from power is the result of incompetence and theft.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 29 2014 08: 14
      +16
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      Yanukovych fell victim to his dream of a united and independent Ukraine

      He stupidly bred fascists and hit them, and he bred them tolerantly so that Europe would not swear with the West.
      1. Victor Kamenev
        April 29 2014 09: 01
        +17
        Yushchenko spawned neo-Nazis, and Yanukovych ... No need to repeat the backs of Maidan propaganda. Can you blame Janek that he is not a hero, that "not Putin", but there are many heroes in politics today? Everyone is being poured with mud ... But he did not sign the European Association ... Let us recall the severity of the "Monomakh cap", Yanukovych led a certain policy of his own, for which he was overthrown. In fact, from the very beginning, he shared power with the American embassy, ​​this was his legacy. Lost, or outplayed, such things ...
        1. nika407
          nika407 April 29 2014 10: 40
          +8
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          Bred neo-Nazis Yushchenko
          And Yanukovych simply closed his eyes to them.
          1. Gato
            Gato April 29 2014 11: 12
            +4
            Quote: nika407
            Yanukovych simply closed his eyes to them.

            That's right. For example, the merger of the Nazis with the SBU (especially in the western regions) began under Yushchenko, but under Yanyka it continued, although not at such a pace.
            The second symptom is the media. Of the dozen Ukrainian TV channels, only one was sluggishly neutral. The rest were not much inferior to 5 anal.
            And the power in the process of stuffing pockets even lost a sense of self-preservation ..
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  4. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 29 2014 08: 16
    +6
    What revolution, and even great and Ukrainian?
    Brown coup, redistribution of spheres of influence. And that’s all.
    But in the Southeast - an uprising that could develop into a revolution.
    It is necessary to distinguish terms from slogans
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS April 29 2014 20: 41
      0
      It is necessary to distinguish terms from slogans- into the hole itself! that's just a slogan to the masses is better introduced.
  5. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn April 29 2014 08: 17
    +11
    It suddenly became clear that the money that the whole country was collecting (the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine held an action, allegedly sent an 5 hryvnia SMS to the army, save Ukraine from the Russians) --- PA-PA-PA - BAM!

    Successfully mastered by the Ukrainian generals, actually for the poor thing of the Ukrainian army didn’t get a penny (of which I personally was sure from the very beginning bully ).



    CAPACITIES: in the Ukrainian Internet there are massive calls like:

    - five hryvnias is not enough! you love reednu nenko - send a hundred hryvnias!

    1. pensioner
      pensioner April 29 2014 10: 53
      +4
      Good to see you Carlson! hi
      How's it on the front line?
      Quote: Karlsonn
      It suddenly became clear that the money that the whole country was collecting (the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine held an action, allegedly sent an 5 hryvnia SMS to the army, save Ukraine from the Russians) --- PA-PA-PA - BAM!

      Do not! stop Gone ... laughing It’s just Putin, so he decided to replenish his account, but they were bought in Ukraine. yes
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 11: 55
        +3
        Quote: retired
        Good to see you Carlson!
        How's it on the front line?


        Mutually!
        Well, we have not yet transferred, but the occupation regime, the situation is difficult, but the victory will be ours! bully
  6. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 29 2014 08: 19
    +7
    ..........................
    but the opinion of their acting ashnika
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 29 2014 11: 57
      +7
      Quote: DEZINTO
      but the opinion of their acting ashnika


      Their - acting in nature, by the way, not one thing.
  7. mamont5
    mamont5 April 29 2014 08: 20
    +5
    "... If Yanukovych left for Kharkiv, he would have a good chance of preserving his Ukraine on a federal basis. Relying on the South-East, he could talk to opposition Kiev not only as a legitimate president, but also from a position of strength, and therefore could force oppositional Kiev to the preservation of Ukraine on its principles, because it would be backed by the entire industrial potential of Ukraine, and Russia. But Yanukovich is not Kutuzov ... "

    Yes, Yanukovych did not hope for the support of the Southeast. After all, then not everyone understood who came to power. And Yanukovych took power with the support of Yu-V, betrayed and sold it, so that he did not have support there.

    “There is another strange aspect of US policy in Ukraine. In the presidential elections, it would be logical for Washington to support the strongest and most respectable player - Batkivshchyna, that is, Yulia Tymoshenko, for all her weaknesses, but Washington demonstratively relies on Petro Poroshenko, a lonely the wolf-billionaire of Ukrainian politics. "

    Julia is too messed up with her past deeds and decided not to mess with her. She was simply written off, only she still did not understand.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 April 29 2014 08: 51
      +5
      Yanukovych at that time had no support, and all the more so since law enforcement officers were demoralized, they would have found and killed him.
      in his case there was only one way out - to drape.
      he does not need to blame him, not everyone can shoot back like Allende.
      demonize Yanyka is also not necessary.
      with him, the hryvnia was stable, prices did not rise. there wasn’t much forward movement, but they didn’t fall into the abyss either.
      He stole, but whoever does not steal, everyone steals. in order to break to power, so as not to offend themselves)))))
  8. Grenz
    Grenz April 29 2014 08: 21
    +21
    I close the Ukrainian theme for myself.
    I was indignant at why we are withdrawing our troops from the Ukrainian border.
    Today in the news received a response.
    In Donetsk, the Right Sector held a "march of intimidation". 2 thousand militants passed through the city selling everyone on their way. And niii and any opposition. None! (how could you miss the concentration of such a mass, and not all of them are local)
    That's it!
    All talk about the Donetsk Republic is a dummy. There are no forces there who can be relied on. They captured a couple of tasks and are waiting for Russian help.
    "Hut on the edge" is the motto in the Southeast.
    Some brave people are honored and respected, and the rest let them live on in a fascist state.
    That is why the troops are withdrawn.
    Let them figure it out for themselves. Tired of expressing an exclusively personal opinion, after watching the story from Donetsk and especially the whining of the beaten.
    And what did they want, that pravoseki would give them flowers. Where are your defenders.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 29 2014 08: 41
      +4
      Quote: grenz
      I close the Ukrainian theme for myself.
      I was indignant at why we are withdrawing our troops from the Ukrainian border.
      Today in the news received a response.
      In Donetsk, the Right Sector held a "march of intimidation". 2 thousand militants passed through the city selling everyone on their way. And niii and any opposition. None! (how could you miss the concentration of such a mass, and not all of them are local)
      That's it!
      All talk about the Donetsk Republic is a dummy.


      This is called Kamrad heard ringing, but does not know where he is.

      Ask if you are interested, then you will not get into a silly position:

      In Donetsk, clashes between rallying supporters of federalization and pro-Ukrainian extremists

      Summary
      28.04.2014 20: 54, Donetsk - Clashes occurred on Monday evening in Donetsk between rallying supporters of federalization and pro-Ukrainian extremists, the UNIAN news agency reports. According to the agency, about ten people were injured on Artyom Street - mostly all had broken heads and abrasions on their feet. According to other media reports, several dozen people were injured.


      1. Grenz
        Grenz April 29 2014 09: 07
        0
        Watched in the news of RT in 8.00
        No comrade is visible on them, that someone is repelling the law-abductors.
        I would like to make a mistake. And if not, they convinced us, and for this we exchange opinions.
        But UNIAN is not an argument for me.
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        2. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 01
          +1
          Quote: grenz
          Watched in the news of RT in 8.00
          No comrade is visible on them, that someone is repelling the law-abductors.
          I would like to make a mistake. And if not, they convinced us, and for this we exchange opinions.
          But UNIAN is not an argument for me.


          Here is what Ukrainian media broadcast today:
          ... the hostages, whom the separatists seized after yesterday's rally in Donetsk, were released. This TSN confirmed in the Donetsk police. The hostages were released after negotiations with the police. Law enforcement officers also detained eight extremists who attacked the participants in the procession. Recall, when a thousand-strong column with Ukrainian flags went to the city center, young masked men with bats and metal sticks attacked them. The protesters were bombarded with explosive bags and stun grenades. According to various sources, injuries were received from 14 to 25 people. Two had to be taken to the hospital. After the attack on the participants of the peaceful procession for the unity of Ukraine, the separatists kidnapped the five participants in the rally. They kept them in the former office of the Party of Regions, which now houses the headquarters of extremists ...

          zinc --- http://ru.tsn.ua/politika/v-donecke-ekstremisty-osvobodili-vzyatyh-v-plen-uchast
          nikov-proukrainskogo-mitinga-363137.html

          Be careful this is one of the central, most stubborn Ukrainian TV channels.
          And here is a photo from the scene.
          1. Anper
            Anper April 29 2014 12: 55
            +2
            Quote: Karlsonn
            And here is a photo from the scene.

            Surely, a plastic bag of blood burst, which the maydaunas hide in the palm of their hand in case someone runs into it, slammed itself on the head and shouted that you had been beaten (formerly Berkut, now separatists). Here you had to wipe your hands with the flag - and The Means of Mass Advertising, Agitation, Disinformation already know their job, they’ll make a heroic picture.
            Watch the clashes in Kharkov with the SS on April 13. 1.20.The blonde picked up such a bag and after that began to knead pravosekov with legs. This is a favorite technique of heroes from the Maidan, from the leadership to the ordinary dubya. Note, right away. sensing that it smells fried, a "group of volunteer doctors" appears, whose duties, it must be understood, include helping to destroy evidence.
            1. Anper
              Anper April 29 2014 13: 16
              +2
              Here is a video from a different angle.
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn April 29 2014 13: 22
              +3
              Anper Welcome hi
              Camrad Grenz without understanding the situation, he began to indiscriminately accuse the opposing junta and draw hasty conclusions:

              Quote: grenz
              I close the Ukrainian theme for myself.
              I was indignant at why we are withdrawing our troops from the Ukrainian border.
              Today in the news received a response.
              In Donetsk, the Right Sector held a "march of intimidation". 2 thousand militants passed through the city selling everyone on their way. And niii and any opposition. None! (how could you miss the concentration of such a mass, and not all of them are local)
              That's it!
              All talk about the Donetsk Republic is a dummy.


              But what happened in reality, here you can see how yesterday in Donetsk, local residents met the imported law-enforcement officers and football ultras.



              Judging by the counter, many share his opinion, but it is erroneous and done too hastily.

              Personally, I am glad that yesterday in Donetsk the "second Kharkov" did not work out and the "guests" were given a worthy welcome.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 29 2014 08: 45
      +9
      Quote: grenz
      All talk about the Donetsk Republic is a dummy. There are no forces there who can be relied on. They captured a couple of tasks and are waiting for Russian help.
      "Hut on the edge" is the motto in the Southeast.


      For example, yesterday --- In the town of Schastya, Luhansk region, unknown persons captured the organizer of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for combating separatism Timur Yuldashev, Interfax-Ukraine was told.

      I wish Fashik Timur "happiness" wassat am
    3. nika407
      nika407 April 29 2014 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: grenz
      In Donetsk, the Right Sector held a "march of intimidation". 2 thousand militants passed through the city selling everyone on their way. And niii and any opposition. None! (how could you miss the concentration of such a mass, and not all of them are local)
      That's it!
      F and g knows what was happening there. Yesterday, I saw on RBC a completely different version of what is happening, now in the same RBC everything is wrong, in Russia 24 everything is the other way around ...
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 02
        +3
        Photo of the right-winged cutter
    4. MAG
      MAG April 29 2014 11: 19
      +7
      I will support grenz he saw the light) The bulk (oddly enough, but it is the "mass") in the southeast is not ready and does not want to do anything for federalization. Yes, their standard of living is rapidly falling and they want, like Crimea, to a stable Russia, but they don’t want to do something for this, but there is a passionate minority that at least tries to do something but the seizure of buildings is childish babble that does not affect anything except the picture on the TV. Pay attention to the pravosekov in the west as soon as the authorities gave up slack they immediately seized the warehouses with weapons. And everywhere they say that the militia (the main backbone) is the former military and the Berkut, where I strongly doubted their mental abilities. Both pravosekov and militias are few, but pravoseki are active and mobile, which cannot be said about the militia. It is enough to take over the Pravosek tactics for the militia and everything will change within 2 weeks: 1 capture of weapons of MANPADS, ATGM (time lost) 2 creation of "red brigades" (shooting of the leaders of the right-wing and junta leaders throughout Ukraine, as well as the capture of foreign mercenaries, so that they are afraid!) 3 the disabling of military equipment without fighting (let the bribery of officers and soldiers break, time is lost) and many small sub-items. You can't fight much in defense.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 06
        +7
        Quote: MAG
        I will support grenz he saw the light) The bulk (oddly enough, but it is the "mass") in the southeast is not ready and does not want to do anything for federalization.


        Are you Yarosh or Avakov?
        Repeat your words to them.



        1. MAG
          MAG April 29 2014 12: 21
          +1
          Karlsonn read all and not phrases taken from the text. I clearly wrote that the militia is the smallest part who at least does something and the bulk only speaks. My comrade has been in such a militia since March in the east, and he confirms my opinion from the inside. In words, they want not to be a cash cow near Kiev, but they don’t do anything. Understand what people write and do not hang up labels and we didn’t switch to you.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 55
            +3
            Quote: MAG
            Karlsonn read all and not phrases taken from the text.


            I read it.

            Quote: MAG
            I clearly wrote that the militia is the smallest part who at least does something and the bulk only speaks.


            People who blocked the road, lined up with human shields in front of the buildings. Have you noticed?
            In your militia, without the support of the people, would you have gained much?

            Quote: MAG
            My comrade has been in such a militia since March in the east, and he confirms my opinion from the inside. In words, they want not to be a cash cow near Kiev, but they don’t do anything.


            And my comrades from the DPR say something else.

            Quote: MAG
            and we didn’t go over to you.


            Notice, sorry. hi

            Quote: MAG
            Delve into what people write


            Do not write nonsense, that's all.
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 16
        +5
        Quote: MAG
        And everywhere they say that the militia (the main backbone) is the former military and the Golden Eagle where I doubted their mental abilities.


        Strategist, can you go to Donetsk and teach?

        Quote: MAG
        Both the right-wingers and the militias are few, but the right-wingers are active mobile which can not be said about the militia.


        What do you know about the situation in general?

        Quote: MAG
        1 seizure of MANPADS, ATGM (time lost


        It has long been captured.

        Quote: MAG
        2creation of "red brigades" (shooting of the leaders of the Pravosek and junta leaders throughout Ukraine


        Are you aware that the entire Southeast is blocked?

        Quote: MAG
        as well as the capture of foreign mercenaries, to be afraid!)


        Already it was necessary to follow the news.

        Quote: MAG
        3 failure of military equipment without fighting


        The equipment is not incapacitated, but seized, as well as captured and repaired equipment undergoing repairs at the DNI plants.

        Quote: MAG
        and many small subparagraphs. In defense you won’t get much.


        Everyone thinks he is a strategist seeing the fight from the side.
        1. MAG
          MAG April 29 2014 12: 39
          -6
          Everything is clear with you verbiage))) the wife does not give))))) calm down baby that you got so started) have you ever tried to think what people write and what you write? EVERYTHING that I wrote is my opinion from what I read and my opinion is repeated with minor errors by my comrade who is just in MISCELLANEOUS. I circled the necessary words for you))) GOODBY CARLSON))
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn April 29 2014 12: 59
            +4
            Quote: MAG
            Everything is clear with you verbiage))) the wife does not)))))


            Your fantasies are fun!

            Quote: MAG
            calm down baby that you wound up so)


            It's a shame when people in age lose touch with reality and write nonsense.

            Quote: MAG
            Have you ever tried to think what people write and what you write?


            Do not believe ...

            Quote: MAG
            EVERYTHING that I wrote is my opinion from what I am reading and my opinion is repeated with minor errors by my comrade who is just in the MALFUNCTION.


            Maybe you should contact someone else and check?

            Quote: MAG
            GOODBY CARLSON))


            Goodbye dear MAG .
        2. pensioner
          pensioner April 29 2014 12: 56
          +2
          Well, damn you Carlson in your repertoire !! Where is such a cartoon chic nadybal? Share the source am
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn April 29 2014 13: 51
            +4
            Quote: retired
            Well, damn you Carlson in your repertoire !! Where is such a cartoon chic nadybal?


            There is a rather dubious resource, but sometimes pearls come across,
            цинк - http://joyreactor.cc/tag/%25D0%259D%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BB%25D0

            %25B5%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BD/all

            In the meantime, comrades Grenz и MAG sow panic Tipo - ALL DROPPED, GYPS REMOVE, CLIENT LEAVES!
            I will share yesterday's news:
            - 28.04.2014 Self-defense forces of the DPR took control of the city of Konstantinovka, fighters took the GOVD and administration, weapons from weapons rooms under the control of fighters of the DPR.

            Below is a video and a photo about the event, otherwise the alarmists will again deliver the tramp that there was nothing and the inhabitants of the DPR are sitting at home and waiting for Putin, and the magicians will support them in this.

            1. Day 11
              Day 11 April 29 2014 14: 03
              +2
              And how do you like this news on Correspondent- "Hostages in Slavyansk are ready to free the German special forces." Class !!! Are they blown away?
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn April 29 2014 14: 33
                +1
                Quote: Den 11
                And how do you like this news on Correspondent- "Hostages in Slavyansk are ready to free the German special forces." Class !!! Are they blown away?


                The main refrain of this news is ... The issue of using Ukrainian special forces for such operations is not considered. “Many of our soldiers would not be ready to shoot compatriots,” one of the senior representatives of the Ukrainian government told the publication. “Therefore, such a special operation can only be carried out with foreign help” ...
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 April 29 2014 14: 38
                  +3
                  So they are not compatriots for the authorities. There are completely terrorists, militants and occupiers. And the PS, tridents and all kinds of OUN there on the Independence Square bent their fingers beautifully. So what's the matter?
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn April 29 2014 18: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: Den 11
                    So they are not compatriots for the authorities. There are completely terrorists, militants and occupiers. And the PS, tridents and all kinds of OUN there on the Independence Square bent their fingers beautifully. So what's the matter?


                    The army is falling apart - not following orders
                    specials - not reliable
                    law enforcement gangsters are uncontrollable,
                    But the main thing here is to attract the Western specialist under an official pretext, then it will become unnecessary for the junta to hide the presence of mercenaries and PMCs, and then in the zomboyaschik and at the meeting in Geneva it will be presented as a "raid on Entebbe - 2".
                    Something like that.
                    If cho - ask escho. wink drinks
              2. smart Fox
                smart Fox April 29 2014 15: 52
                +1
                Let the German special forces protect their Bundestag. where do they climb again? their daughter Hitler had already done stupid things for 10 years in advance.
              3. Theophanes
                Theophanes April 29 2014 19: 44
                -3
                I'm not surprised! G ... Merkel is a Gestapovka with the past. Like her Foreign Minister, or rather shoulder-affairs, an ardent representative of Himler’s deportation! And why are they surprised? They are Germans ...! It’s a pity that liberal Stalin forbade the use of Wehrmacht methods in Germany! Damn Merkel and her children and children of her children up to the 5th generation !!! I remember how her mother took blood from me 5 he was a kid, and her father beat me if I donated less than normal !!! If among the Germans at least one little bit (not honest) but at least a decent little man?
            2. pensioner
              pensioner April 29 2014 16: 40
              0
              The exact same event just happened in my beloved repeat Khartsyzsk!
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn April 29 2014 18: 10
                0
                nervously fingering earflaps

                So what has already happened in our beloved Khartsyzsk?
                Tell immediately ...

                suspects terrible
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner April 29 2014 19: 55
                  +1
                  Carlsonn !! Forgive the old man fool ! I forgot that you have such news banned there. Here:
                  The flag of Donetsk People's Republic is hoisted above the city council of Khartsyzsk (2)
                  The flag of Donetsk People's Republic is hoisted above the city council of Khartsyzsk
                  The seizure of the city council building in Khartsyzsk on Sunday was carried out by separatists with the assistance of members of the city executive committee. It is reported that separatists and the so-called "green men" entered the building. On the building of the City Council removed Ukrainian symbols and raised the flag of the "Donetsk Republic". Moreover, participates in the events. about. mayor. He shakes hands with the invaders, also on the street there are other employees of the City Council. An unexpected, but indicative fact of the whole situation is the appearance at the entrance of the building of the PR deputy Lukyanov. Before the few citizens present, he made a speech in which he spoke about ideas for federalizing the country and holding a referendum.

                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner April 29 2014 20: 16
                    0
                    The same thing was done in 3 rather small settlements: Krasnyi Luch, Snezhnoye, Torez, plus even before kusi in several smaller villages. Russia 24 transmits.
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn April 29 2014 22: 31
                      +2
                      Quote: retired
                      The same thing was done back in 3 of rather small settlements: Krasnyi Luch, Snezhnoye, Torez, plus even before the bites in several smaller villages. Russia 24 transfers


                      Hooray! drinks soldier bully
                2. pensioner
                  pensioner April 29 2014 20: 12
                  +2
                  Carlsonn! Here are some more recent news. In Donetsk, at the moment, people and about 50 armed people are storming the building of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs. Submachine gun bursts were heard. The building of the Prosecutor’s Office has either been taken, or an assault, too. It's not clear yet. Like this. How is it there; will media transmit anything about this? But the prosecutor’s office was taken. MVDshniki fire back and bombard people with stun grenades. By the way. It is today that the term for the ultimatum that the rebels presented to the local authorities has ended.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn April 29 2014 22: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    . As there; will media transmit anything about this? But the prosecutor’s office was taken. MVDshniki fire back and bombard people with stun grenades.


                    I’ll check tomorrow, today I don’t want to go into the Ukrainian media. drinks
      3. ed65b
        ed65b April 29 2014 12: 35
        +1
        Andryukha, I’ve been talking about this for the second month already. What's the point, the leadership of the rebels did not read Lenin. And probably not the army team, at least not the staff.
        1. MAG
          MAG April 29 2014 12: 54
          -1
          Now after Crimea everything is ecstatic and they don’t see the difference what happened in Crimea and now in the southeast. Any arguments and opinions are met with hostility (provocateur Bandera)))) The truth is that even with the buildings seized, presidential elections will be held in Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov, but with a minimal turnout, but this is enough for the junta.
          1. Grenz
            Grenz April 29 2014 13: 46
            +1
            MAG
            I have ripened for a long time. There was hope.
            But it is evident this time the Americans have calculated correctly. And Putin too. It is not good to keep troops in the field without any benefit. Relaxation will be.
            And the elections will surely be held in the cities of the Southeast.
            Or rather, they’ll designate, falsify, the OSCE will attest, the USA and the EU will recognize the legitimacy and democracy of the conduct, and that’s all. Out.
            Legitimate power created. Russia is not right.
            They will not pay for gas.
            And in the winter, President Poroshenko will accuse Russia of wanting to freeze the Ukrainian people.
            And again in a circle - gas for free and Maidan for the next election.
            Well, it seems to me somehow.
    5. Am
      Am April 29 2014 23: 35
      +2
      I don’t understand either. They’re sitting-silent, waiting for the help of Russia, but the main part is sitting silently and waiting for it to resolve itself. And how much can you ride on fraternal feelings? If you are brothers, then you probably need some kind of union there, connections some ... And then they remember about fraternity when they get noses or discounts there .. Previously, I talked with Ukrainians, everything’s fine. Now it’s better not to start a conversation, I’d like to drop into my face ... They can its own truth, so let them live there according to their own truth. And first of all, we should restore order at home.
  9. Ols76
    Ols76 April 29 2014 08: 22
    +6
    Nazi junta.
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  11. sigdoc
    sigdoc April 29 2014 08: 27
    +21
    Our answer to Bandera
    1. annodomene
      annodomene April 29 2014 08: 33
      +6
      Wow, class !!! Recall Sudoplatov and a little crap one’s pants ...
  12. Agent 008
    Agent 008 April 29 2014 08: 42
    +13
    Back to the Future...
  13. Singularist
    Singularist April 29 2014 08: 55
    +2
    My opinion is that Yanukovych wasn’t allowed to go to power after he went through the first elections with Yushchenko. It was immediately clear - a political coward. And when the coward was also a grabber, it became clear that it was clear that even the Southeast would not support him. Therefore, he actually has nowhere to run, everywhere he krants.
  14. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 29 2014 09: 03
    +3
    Quote: ZU-23
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Yanukovych fell victim to his dream of a united and independent Ukraine

    He stupidly bred fascists and hit them, and he bred them tolerantly so that Europe would not swear with the West.

    And really, how did Yanukovych not notice the hordes of Western fascists !?, could not help but notice, so he had his own plans to eat the fish and not choke on the bone, but he succeeded, as Chernomyrdin would say: “I wanted the best, but it turned out like is always!"
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 29 2014 09: 35
      0
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      And really, as Yanukovych did not notice the hordes of Western fascists!?,

      Well, so under Yushchenko it was an organized crime group and now it is the Bandera army that grew up under Yanukovych.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 29 2014 13: 02
        +3
        Quote: ZU-23
        Well, so under Yushchenko it was an organized crime group and now it is the Bandera army that grew up under Yanukovych.


        Under Yushchenko, the creation, organization, financing was handled by the SBU, while Yanukovych nurtured "Svolota" for the 2015 elections in order to win a second presidential term.
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    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. April 29 2014 10: 15
      +3
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      But really, how Yanukovych did not notice the hordes of Western fascists !?

      Are you seriously? Do you really think that this can be overlooked? He not only knew about this, but also encouraged the Banderaites in every possible way, even partially financed them. He kept them as a counterbalance to the Communists, who were gaining more and more popularity among the people, he also brought them to Ukrainian parliament. As a result, "gin" escaped from the bottle and "ate" its master. Now Ukraine is rapidly moving towards the establishment of a fascist dictatorship, at least in part of its territory. For the sake of interest, listen to the speech of the People's Deputy Mikhalchishin at the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the creation of the SS division "Galicia" in Lviv.
  15. Good cat
    Good cat April 29 2014 09: 16
    +1
    Ghouls on the poster all on one face as from an incubator
  16. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 29 2014 09: 21
    +16
    To each Natsik of Ukraine on May 9 a sweet gift!
    1. desertfox
      desertfox April 29 2014 09: 37
      +7
      Haha! For the record!
      True, for those who are not in the know, it is necessary to clarify: Sudoplatov eliminated Yevgeny Konovalets with a bomb made in the form of a box of chocolates, to which Konovalets felt weak.
    2. amigo1969
      amigo1969 April 29 2014 10: 08
      +2
      Creative !!! Bravo!!!!
  17. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 29 2014 09: 27
    +1
    Yes, the old way to distract people's attention from internal problems is to switch them to an external enemy. For a while, it will distract them. You can steal and flee the country for it, laying a mine under it. Now it’s warm, the weather is good, I’m not willing to work, but if we don’t have to ride on the Maidan, but how it starts to get colder, it starts snowing and Gazprom turns off gas for non-payment, wants to eat corny, then they will start looking for the guilty one already inside the country. And the juntas, looking, and no, it evaporated, like a mirage to which they led Ukraine and the Ukrainian people will remain alone in the middle of the desert.
  18. ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 29 2014 09: 32
    +1
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    Yushchenko bred neo-Nazis, and Yanukovych ... No need to repeat the asses of Maidan propaganda.
    Yushchenko began to produce them, and under Yanyka they bred, and it was necessary to fight them, as in Russia they fight terrorism in the Caucasus. Yanyk sat on two chairs all the way, so he paid.
  19. La-5
    La-5 April 29 2014 09: 48
    +1
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/306/jwde636.jpg
  20. 222222
    222222 April 29 2014 10: 06
    +1
    To the author of the article, see the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the SS division "Galicia" and especially the speech of the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Mikhalchishin. Separatism, fascism interspersed with Nazism .. and Power is not gu-gu .. "" Separatists "are in the East.
    http://newsone.ua/video/ukraine/?media_id=62956[media=http://newsone.ua/video/uk
    raine /? media_id = 62956]
    http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/politics/rabinovich-osudil-prazdnovanie-vo-lvove-godo

    vshchiny-sozdaniya-28042014173500
    https://www.facebook.com/vadymrabinovych
    1. 222222
      222222 April 29 2014 12: 52
      +2
      // 28.04.2014 // 12: 55 //
      Rabinovich: Holding a march in Lviv is a blow to the back of Ukraine
      MIGnews.com.ua
      Increase Font Decrease Font
      Regarding the events in Lviv over the weekend, a candidate for the post of President of Ukraine, President of the All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress Vadim Rabinovich made a statement that MIGnews.com.ua gives in full - without reduction and amendments.

      "Yesterday in Lviv, a march of followers of the SS Galicia division, recognized by the Nuremberg Tribunal as a criminal organization, took place. Personally, I perceive this event on the eve of May 9 as an understandable provocation. Those people who organized this procession at the most difficult time for Ukraine do not like Ukraine, they are not patriots. I am not afraid of these words: these people stab Ukraine in the back! It will be hard for the world to understand why today it should support us, help Ukraine, inside which those who pay tribute to the SS are openly marching.

      But to make this statement I was also inspired by the complete lack of reaction from the authorities to this event, which violates international legal and moral standards. None of the leaders of the state, none of the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties expressed their attitude towards the march, nor condemned it. Silence means support, but I want to remind you: once silence led to the fact that fascism raised its head in Europe - and this lesson cost humanity tens of millions of lives!

      In my firm conviction, today's silence of the Ukrainian authorities, and in fact - support for this, are incompatible with the ideals of the new Ukraine that we are building.

      I appeal to all candidates for the post of President of Ukraine: I ask you to publicly voice your position regarding the events in Lviv, as I do! People should know your attitude to criminals who are recognized criminals by the whole world and a legitimate tribunal.

      We cannot build a state where criminals are not only not condemned by public opinion and leaders of the country, but, with the tacit consent of the elite, become heroes.

      I urge everyone to condemn the illegal march, to investigate how it became possible, and moreover, it was guarded by state law enforcement agencies. Where, for example, is the reaction of the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine to the speech of the people's deputy and one of the leaders of "Svoboda" Yuriy Mikhalchishin at this gathering, who publicly, publicly mocked the national flag of Ukraine, calling him "the ensign of the іnshoi state"?

      For my part, I will try to do everything so that in the public opinion of the new Ukraine the fascists always look like fascists and criminals, in whose ideology there has never been and cannot be genuine patriotism, true love for Ukraine! "
  21. amigo1969
    amigo1969 April 29 2014 10: 12
    +11
    Here is graffiti in Moscow on Nakhimovsky Prospect !!
  22. Magic archer
    Magic archer April 29 2014 10: 21
    +3
    The most disgusting thing is that the current generation of Ukrainians really thinks these freaks are "heroes" ..... Sister said that her son at school is taught that hair stands on end! After such brainwashing, a normal person's roof will go, not like a child a teenager
  23. Turk
    Turk April 29 2014 10: 26
    +6
    Quote: Gagarin
    To each Natsik of Ukraine on May 9 a sweet gift!

    And a toy that would not produce morons!
  24. pedro7707
    pedro7707 April 29 2014 10: 34
    -1
    Not in cities greatness - in people ...
  25. AnaBat
    AnaBat April 29 2014 10: 45
    +10
    Feel the difference!
    1. Igool
      Igool April 30 2014 00: 34
      +1
      All this has already happened, nothing has changed
  26. Lavrov
    Lavrov April 29 2014 11: 10
    +4
    NEVER Donbass ceases to be Russian.
    Hitler Kaput - 1945
    Junta Kaput - 2104g
    1. Zelen
      Zelen April 29 2014 12: 04
      0
      I would like for faster, but not 2104.
  27. shamil
    shamil April 29 2014 11: 20
    0
    Yarosh Kaput!
  28. CIANIT
    CIANIT April 29 2014 12: 02
    +2
    Strange. The "great fighters for the great" Ukraine So they could not create it territorially. And the Bolsheviks created it against whom the nationalists fought. And they also gave them territories that never belonged to them. Now they are demolishing the symbols of communism, not forgetting to scream about the integrity of Ukraine, which was created by the communists. Where is the logic or at least historical justice?
  29. capex1
    capex1 April 29 2014 12: 22
    +1
    A lot of a lot of choke on the Ukrainian people from this American crap democracy. Spring is already passing, summer will fly even faster, frost is just around the corner, what are the Slav brothers thinking about ?! If they want the banderlogs in Kiev to be heard by the East, their position should not just be heard, but should be given a ringing, yelling, heart-rending scream in the ears of Kiev devilry. For me it’s just some kind of shock - as it can to the government of the country, which is practically at the center of the whole this crappy Europe is going to crush their own people with tanks and fight with them. And so the East-WELCOME TO THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!!
  30. ed65b
    ed65b April 29 2014 12: 43
    +2
    Hard choice, but necessary.
  31. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 29 2014 12: 45
    +7
    AAAA !! Trader! This is what I found in the clips from the sites of the maydanuts - "Visas will soon be canceled and we will be able to travel to Europe, receive benefits from the Europeans, and let the miners work further, the horses will die from work. And we, the Heroes of the Maidan, will look after them! Glory to the heroes!" "
    Well done heroes forward to Europe, of course ,! Velikoukrov there very much wait. )) In general, you can google there somewhere this thread, there are such pearls! Wow! wassat Well, have fun. fellow
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  32. KOSMOS
    KOSMOS April 29 2014 13: 18
    +2
    I am afraid that the "Great Ukrainian Revolution" is the beginning of the end for Ukraine as a single state!
  33. alovrov
    alovrov April 29 2014 13: 29
    +1
    It is necessary to stop scolding zapadentsev - it is useless. It is necessary to convince them to build their small Eurospaces - the Galician People’s Republic and the Volyn People’s Republic. The one who starts it and can do it will really remain in the history of these ethnic groups. And the first country to recognize the new states will be Russia. Exhale and cross in the Orthodox ...
    1. Spike
      Spike April 30 2014 00: 22
      0
      We trample a boot ... And if someone grunts, Kadyrov promised help ... Let him work out his trust ...
  34. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic April 29 2014 14: 11
    +3
    And blasphemy ??? If we have our own chocolate industry:
  35. sv68
    sv68 April 29 2014 15: 02
    0
    every revolution will end sooner or later. for ukroiny it will mean only one thing - with its leaps this state itself will not only ruin itself but also change its attitude towards itself as a state to be sharply negative. therefore ukroina can only dutifully live its last days without hoping for restoration its status as a state as such
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  37. Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 29 2014 19: 34
    +2
    Quote: grenz
    I close the Ukrainian theme for myself.

    You shouldn’t be so, here is Donetsk on the 29th
  38. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx April 29 2014 22: 41
    0
    Making decisions without considering the consequences is the first degree of schizophrenia.
    © Vladimir Bekhterev, On the topic "Maidan".
  39. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 29 2014 22: 47
    0
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Tell immediately ...



    Alexei, if you are so smart, why aren't you leaders in protecting freedom, as I understand it, you live in Ukraine. You see what is happening with your own eyes or you are a housekeeper from home commenting on everything that happens.
  40. Assad
    Assad April 30 2014 10: 29
    0
    The place of German fascists was taken by Russians.