Listening to Putin. Conclusions about geopolitics

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The Chinese have a wise saying: “May you live in an era of change.” Something like a curse. In my life in the nineties of the last century, I very often recalled it. However, lately, I increasingly find myself thinking that the current era of change appeals to me more and more. It is like other changes. And since the last time I manage to watch or listen to almost every speech of our leader, these are the conclusions that came out.

How interesting is the world divided today, if you carefully listen to the words of GDP. He emphasizes this often, but without fanaticism. Therefore, it seems to be slipping by.

We have no enemies. This he said not so long ago. For dates I’m not sure, I jotted out the statements themselves in passing. The enemy is the one who must be wary, from whom evils are expected. I am glad that Russia, according to the president, has no enemies.

Russia has many partners. Here is very interesting. A partner is someone with whom you can make small gesheft or a large business. It turns out that we have a large part of the world in our partners. Partner can not love, but to respect the profit that you can fuck with it. All clear. Our partners include the States, Britain, Germany, France, and others like them.

It is clear that you can expect anything from a partner: sanctions, kidalov, defaults and other “charms” of our being. It's like every citizen of the country, but on a national scale. Ukraine is also on a par with the United States. Intelligible, right?

During the last four speeches of Putin, I heard the phrase “our Chinese allies” three times. Indicative of? An ally is a different level. Union - he is a union in Africa. And it involves something more than a profitable trading relationship. In our clear allies for Putin, we have Kazakhstan, Armenia and others. Little, but there is. And in my opinion, one ally is worth a dozen partners. So obvious parity is present.

Well, at the very end about the brothers. About the fraternal peoples. Naturally, it is first about Belarus. It is as if not discussed. But slipped in relation to Ukraine. There, of course, more difficult. Those with guns in Kiev - it turns out, partners. Everything within the framework of the definition, they do not want to pay for gas, the rights of a part of the population and journalists are infringed, unequivocally - partners. Yes, and reverse deliveries - this is also very partnership. And those in the Donbas with machine guns are brothers. Everything is laid out on the shelves.

Indeed, everything is on the shelves. Except for one thing: thrice in a week, the underlined phrase “Chinese allies”. It seems that some people in Europe can miss another trick of our unpredictable. Too much there all carried away by the sanctions and Ukraine. Too calmly, ours react to everything: to sanctions, to the cries of the State Department, to the reverse grimaces of the Ukrainian junta, to the Canadian attempts to punish us by not starting our companion. The Crimea, apparently, has not yet taught Europe anything. Well, as they say, your European problems.

Quietly and calmly preparing a turn to the east. Then you and the pipeline, and oil pipelines, and gas terminals in Vladik. And much more - something that we probably do not know about. Hopefully, we don't know yet. And it may turn out that after a while some of the partners will be confronted with the fact that they were preferred by the allies. Here are just too late to rush. And bite your elbows. And we must not be afraid of joining the Donbass to Russia. Not the absence of Russia in G7 or 20. And the real possibility of the appearance of the Big Two is Russia + China. And all this, apparently, and goes. And there will be many who, having overcome the eternal fear of the “legislators of democracy”, will support this union.

It is interesting to listen to Putin. A lot of things come to mind. One thing is clear for now - we live in a time of change. I hope that these changes are only for the better, whatever they predict.

Listening to Putin. Conclusions about geopolitics
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  1. +54
    April 29 2014 07: 49
    All events are useful for eliminating the dollar and the influence of the West on world geopolitics.
    1. Validator
      +73
      April 29 2014 10: 41
      Our main allies are the army and navy. All the rest - according to the situation
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      2. +25
        April 29 2014 11: 37
        Quote: Validator
        All the rest - according to the situation

        It looks like the situation with the Chinese is brewing. This union will turn the world around if it becomes a real military-political and economic, and not a temporary conjunctural. For joining it, a line of weaker but farsighted ones will very quickly line up. After the emergence of such a union, the EU will remain six months to a year. The question is open with the United States ... it will not get into the fray weakly, but there is no way out - therefore, the growing crisis, the collapse of the dollar, the collapse of the banking economy, leaving the regions of the world ...
        1. +2
          April 29 2014 23: 29
          This union will turn the world around if it becomes a real military-political and economic, and not a temporary conjuncturalbut he looks like that for now ... concern for prospects. the Chinese are at risk of falling into a crisis of overproduction, for the hostages of their own rapid growth, ours are worried about the sale of resources. here on the wave of this foam and loomed the union. all IMHO
        2. +3
          April 30 2014 06: 30
          I would not fall into euphoria with the Chinese. They have seven Deng Xiaoping principles there, I don’t remember exactly, but something like that: to boost the economy, build up strength, get ready and jump. According to the calculations of some (I don’t remember who) analysts, by the age of 50 they will jump to Russia.
          1. +4
            April 30 2014 10: 17
            History shows that always attacked from the west ...
            1. 0
              1 May 2014 13: 10
              Quote: Lawless
              History shows that always attacked from the west ..

              And the Tatar-Mongols?
          2. +2
            April 30 2014 12: 18
            Do not forget about their internal contradictions. China is only monolithic from the outside, something I do not remember major wars at the initiative of China, the last three hundred years, for sure. But it is not worth falling into euphoria, you are right.
        3. +1
          April 30 2014 12: 52
          In May, Putin’s visit to China will tell me something judging by Putin’s grinning West - the West will be waiting for another surprise at that meeting))) Again, Comrade Xi Jin Ping, judging by Chinese sources, to put it mildly, WELL VERY WELL APPOINT TO Putin
      3. +12
        April 29 2014 13: 19
        Our main allies are the army and navy. All the rest - according to the situation


        Judging by the picture, our main allies "Army and CAT" wassat wassat wassat
    2. +38
      April 29 2014 11: 39
      No matter how we discuss, and we ourselves are the most important ally, we just have questions in connection with the events in Ukraine, introduced new sanctions, information and statements of politicians and businessmen went through our media, now we have a chance to build a NATIONAL economy, it turns out In 2014, we did not build it, and whose economy was built, in 2010 in the State Duma they blocked the national payment system, I would like to know who was behind this, moreover, please let the country know our heroes. We tied ourselves to the Western market and rubbed ourselves the backside of a green piece of paper like a silly dog, where our prominent economists, market strategists, languages ​​pushed into one place, where a promising, strategic look at the Russian economy, 2013, a failure in GDP, the first quarter of 2014 is the same, China is stamping more than 7% GDP, and the stability of our failures indicates the quality of professionalism of our government. 28.04.2014/37/37, the President of Kazakhstan Nazarbayev’s speech at Lomonosov Moscow State University showed amazing, block, beautiful, smart, well-balanced proposals in the field of economics, science, education, integration, our government looks like boys in short pants against this background. the transmission of the Truth-Karaulov Moment, so that the President could watch it together with the government, the Prosecutor General’s Office and law enforcement agencies, special services, judges, and then tell the people how to live, it’s right for us not XNUMX years old, after watching it, we get worse than XNUMX years old, AUTHORITY calls us to UNITY, with such an order in the country we won’t get any unity, you live on your own, people on their own. All these sanctions were foreseen, they were spoken about by experts, politicians, but they were dismissed from them, as the democratic West , it can’t be, and sanctions, if they are toughened even more, will hit primarily the common population. AUTHORITY - and where is the insight of thought, the experience of other countries, etc. .. Only we ourselves can restore order if the AUTHORITY wants to, if he will, there will be even more allies and in Ukraine many would think where to go. ALLIES THIS WE ARE ALL CITIZENS OF RUSSIA + AUTHORITY, INCLUDING ARMY AND Navy.
      1. Lara
        +12
        April 29 2014 12: 00
        I don’t understand why our president was so “attached” to Medvedev, even on Easter we went to church together (it just looked ridiculous). Or maybe the president looks better against the background of Medvedev? For me, the prime minister is just a misunderstanding.
        1. -9
          April 29 2014 13: 48
          that you got to the bottom of Medvedev, he is a business executive, and Putin is a strategist and they work perfectly in tandem.
          1. +29
            April 29 2014 16: 40
            Medvedev business executive ??? Stop smoking this rubbish ...
            1. +2
              April 29 2014 22: 43
              I agree. From him a business executive ... It’s even hard to recall something positive. But the reverse is quite.
              1. 11111mail.ru
                0
                April 30 2014 15: 56
                Quote: Sasha1979
                From him a business executive,

                like from de .. ma bullet!
          2. 0
            April 30 2014 23: 10
            I would say who Medvedev is, but I'm afraid censorship will not pass.
            At the last CUE announcement in America, this miracle the next day announced the start of privatization of state property. am
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          4. 0
            1 May 2014 10: 29
            that you got to the bottom of Medvedev, he is a business executive
            "Business executive" - ​​to state trends, fix brands, and draw road maps, and also whine at all "economic forums" about "improving the investment climate" and "unfavorable world conditions" and beg for money from the whole world, and invest "ours" under 0.5% per annum in American and European bonds.
          5. raf
            +1
            1 May 2014 10: 39
            sherman1506-do not make me funny for a business executive Medvedev! This is the same manager as of you, Queen Elizabeth.)))))
        2. +1
          April 29 2014 20: 49
          Russian debts are paid. There is even a proverb: debt by payment is red.
          You have to pay for everything. And most of all - fidelity.
          1. +1
            April 30 2014 01: 07
            They cost the most: stupidity, weakness, attachment to the wrong ones.
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      2. +3
        April 30 2014 02: 33
        Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
        We tied ourselves to the western market

        And we were not tied by those you asked about, but by their puppeteers. The worst crime is betraying your people. Burn with a hot iron!
      3. +3
        April 30 2014 05: 47
        now we have a chance to build a NATIONAL economy, it turns out until 2014 we did not build it, and whose economy was built


        Not a CHANCE, but a NECESSITY. Different things, agree ...
        Well, where to go from the fact that we have capitalism? But capitalism needs markets. Therefore, the oligarchs vitally needed good relations with the West so that they would buy resources from us. Because of this, the real sector also slowed down. Because it will consume the resources that are now exported.
        What is happening now? The crisis has shown that there is no place for everyone in the capitalist boat. Everyone needs to expand, but nowhere to expand further. Therefore, the Western world is going to change the formation - it begins to tighten the screws. What will it be? Neo-feudalism or a non-slave society - we will look at this. But the problem is that this new formation will collapse the economy, reducing consumption and production. Accordingly, the profits of our oligarchs will also decrease. Plus, our Western partners are not averse to minimizing their resource costs in order to keep profits at maximum height in the conditions of falling production. And how can you minimize costs? That's right, take it by force with minimal cost. Even if you have to invest in the capture itself. But business is aware that money sticks to money. And ready for that. Whereas our oligarchs are not ready to give their profits. And in this situation, their interests go parallel to the Chinese. China is the workshop of the world and therefore a decline in consumption will hit it even harder than in Russia. What does he not have to take his products at all! At least they will take resources from us, and China will work in a landfill. Work for the domestic market? But is it possible to replace the huge markets of Europe and America in China? There are many people there, but people's incomes are not comparable. And if you start raising people's incomes, then the prices of goods will increase, the circle will close and galloping inflation will begin. In such a situation, Russia and China are more important than ever to each other. Because Russia is for China at the same time a sales market that they will not want to lose, but will want to expand in every way, and a source of resources from which the West wipes them everywhere. Our oligarchs are interested in China in order to maximize supplies there while reducing demand in the West. In this situation, the union of Russia and China will be strong enough all the time of turbulence that will arise during the collapse of Western economies.
    3. Roshchin
      +13
      April 29 2014 12: 47
      GDP is not EBN for you
    4. +7
      April 29 2014 13: 30
      The United States wants to whip Europe to itself harshly, otherwise they will end. And we need to keep Europe from such an "alliance" with the United States. That is why we are white and fluffy in Ukraine. And let Europe see what their American partners are turning Ukraine into.
      1. +15
        April 29 2014 14: 26
        David Cameron threatened to resign if he could not hold a referendum on Britain's exit from the EU wassat SEPARATISTTT !!!!

        Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/29837#ixzz30GmUTDmE
        1. +3
          April 29 2014 20: 28
          A couple of years ago, China was considered at least a "competitor". Now he is already an "ally", which can neither rejoice. hi
          1. +1
            April 30 2014 01: 09
            living with such an ally is as calm as sleeping in the same bed with an elephant - it will crush without noticing
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  2. Gagarin
    +67
    April 29 2014 08: 00
    The author somehow forgot about India, the country is quite friendly to us, technically at a decent level, and the population is almost like in China.
    In conjunction with it, GREAT THINGS can be calamit.
    1. JoylyRoger
      +35
      April 29 2014 08: 09
      And Venezuela with Cuba
      1. +33
        April 29 2014 09: 44
        Quote: JoylyRoger
        And Venezuela with Cuba


        Forgot about Nicaragua - to us there is another channel to dig with China!
        1. wax
          +11
          April 29 2014 10: 54
          There, the Yellowstone supervolcano will definitely say "NO" to the self-confident Yankees.
          “I don’t know how much was over. When I look back from the high hill of my old age, I can see slaughtered women and children lying in heaps and scattered throughout the curved gorge as clearly as I saw them with my own young eyes. And I see that something else died there, in bloody mud, and was buried in a snowstorm. There, the dream of the people died. It was a beautiful dream ... ”Black Deer, the saint barked at the Sioux; The Wounded Nee Massacre

          “Everything that happens to the earth happens to the sons and daughters of the earth. We do not weave the web of life; we are simply woven into it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” Chief Seattle, duvamish

          Nature will avenge the great civilization of the Indians with inevitable inevitability.
          1. +5
            April 29 2014 20: 53
            Great quotes. At the risk of seeming intrusive, I want to add one more:
            "You must make good out of evil because there is nothing else to make of it." These are the words of Robert P. Warren.
            They became the epigraph to the novel by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky "Roadside Picnic".
        2. +10
          April 29 2014 11: 42
          Quote: podpolkovnik
          Forgot about Nicaragua - to us there is another channel to dig with China!

          Hope for God (China), but don’t be bad. China is an unequivocal ally, of course you need to be friends, but in a bathhouse it is better not to bend over the soap. laughing
          In the West, they cannot fail to notice this rapprochement, and I don’t think that there, and "the diots are sitting on analytics and forecasting. 41st one ally has already been pushed against us, I hope everyone remembers. Although there was friendship with Germany, perhaps So friendship is friendship, but I would not hide the ax on the mezzanine. hi
          P.S. Thanks to Roman for the article, the topic is interesting.
        3. Andrey SPB
          0
          April 30 2014 15: 10
          We only have to guard him ... soldier
          The Chinese will dig, and then not themselves, but on their money .. Yes
      2. +2
        April 29 2014 23: 41
        To be honest, you must first apologize to Cuba for throwing them at the unkind 90. Although there, most understand everything perfectly.
      3. 0
        April 30 2014 13: 29
        Forgiven DPRK debt of 10 billion yesterday, I think it’s very good reason
    2. +5
      April 29 2014 09: 47
      India and China have some old graters, they will remain on the sidelines, they will not climb, and Pakistan is also there with a small population, so it is not so simple in those parts.
    3. +6
      April 29 2014 12: 24
      This is the essence of the article. As soon as the Russia + China alliance forms, the above-mentioned countries will start joining there, India, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and others like them, forming a noose around Uncle Sam’s neck.
    4. +3
      April 29 2014 18: 32
      And tango with Argentina.
    5. 0
      April 30 2014 05: 31
      Respected! Have you been to India?
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  3. +21
    April 29 2014 08: 01
    If I were Putin, I would call Western countries "sparring partners". So it is more true: at the moment, with their help, we are training before the upcoming battle. And I am sure that the victory will be ours!
    1. +11
      April 29 2014 08: 42
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Western countries called "sparring partners".
    2. +4
      April 29 2014 09: 55
      what battle? open armed conflict? war in other words ... so again young boys will go like cannon fodder. or are you going to bring us a victory with a gun?
      don't say "hop" until you jump!
      1. +4
        April 29 2014 11: 57
        Quote: maxxdesign
        what battle? open armed conflict? war in other words ... so again young boys will go like cannon fodder. or are you going to bring us a victory with a gun?
        don't say "hop" until you jump!

        How are you all running ... I meant the battle for the truth that our country wants to convey to these so-called "partners". So far, we have not succeeded in doing this very well, but I am sure that we will still get through to the minds of progressive humanity. And I would advise you to behave more correctly on the site, to poke a stranger, this is not a sign of intelligence.
        1. Suprunov
          +1
          April 30 2014 12: 19
          Hit RT shows that the struggle for the truth is already in full swing
      2. +2
        April 29 2014 13: 58
        there will be no war, everything will settle down in a more or less peaceful course.
    3. +6
      April 29 2014 10: 38
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      If I were Putin, I would call Western countries "sparring partners".


      - I understand that you said this phrase with humor, but we are a fairly peaceful and very diplomatic country. Unfortunately, I dare to disappoint you! Moreover, I would still call them "flattering" ... drinks
      1. +3
        April 29 2014 11: 59
        Quote: LaGlobal
        but we are a fairly peaceful and very diplomatic country. Unfortunately, I dare to disappoint you! Moreover, I would still call them "flattering" ...

        I fully support you, in this I agree with you! drinks
  4. +8
    April 29 2014 08: 06
    People who have gone through the "era of change" become stronger
    1. +5
      April 29 2014 08: 12
      What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, so it happened to us. And the partner seems to be becoming a household name. An alliance with China and India is necessary as a counterweight to the Western world.
    2. +2
      April 29 2014 11: 46
      Quote: mackonya
      People who have gone through the "era of change" become stronger

      But there are very few of them.
    3. Lara
      +2
      April 29 2014 12: 01
      And there is also an expression - "How dark it is before dawn .."
  5. +24
    April 29 2014 08: 09
    We also need to be careful with China. They know very well how to bend their policy. With them, you need to constantly and invariably adhere to one line. If our leadership is always "flint" - we will be successful with China. But if we gape, they will quickly strip us like sticky. The only thing China is not dangerous to us is that their ideology is alien to us, and even if our strong friendship does not spread to us. As usual, you need to be smart. And the future belongs to friendship with the East.
    1. +1
      April 29 2014 23: 47
      I’m not sure that their ideology is so alien to us. Speaking of the Chinese mentality: in the last couple of years I have been very much and closely communicating with the Chinese - you won’t believe how easy it was to negotiate with them and find common ground.
  6. JoylyRoger
    +4
    April 29 2014 08: 10
    It's just like an appeal, "partner". It's polite. wink
    1. +9
      April 29 2014 10: 27
      Quote: JoylyRoger
      It's just like an appeal, "partner". It's polite.

      maybe like a curse? wassat
  7. +5
    April 29 2014 08: 11
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    I would call sparring partners in the place of Putin, the country of the West

    Is a punching bag a partner? wassat
    1. +4
      April 29 2014 08: 19
      Quote: e_krendel
      Is a punching bag a partner?

      This is a sports equipment! wassat
  8. +9
    April 29 2014 08: 11
    After Madeleine Albright blurted out in an interview that 500 children died in Iraq due to sanctions, the prospects for the United States to get out of the intellectual crisis of senior management became quite foggy.
  9. +8
    April 29 2014 08: 14
    "And the real possibility of the emergence of the Big Two is Russia + China. And everything, apparently, is moving towards this."

    Yes, it is real and possible. But why a two? If the entire BRICS supports Russia, it will be the "five" to begin with.
    1. Bashkaus
      +3
      April 29 2014 11: 28
      This wakes up "Velekolepna five and a goalkeeper (well, there Belarus;))"
  10. +3
    April 29 2014 08: 20
    We will wait and see. Time is our ally and doctor. Time will show and cure whom it is necessary. And who does not want to be treated, we will send orderlies.
  11. +6
    April 29 2014 08: 22
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    This is a sporting equipment!

    No. it sounds somehow non-diplomatic and awkward: ... our western ... uh ... sports equipment ...
    wassat
    1. +2
      April 29 2014 08: 40
      Quote: e_krendel
      it sounds somehow non-diplomatic and awkward: ... our western ... uh ... sports equipment ...

      I beg your pardon, but I am not a master of "pretzel" diplomacy. smile
      1. +2
        April 29 2014 16: 51
        What I love you all for is inexhaustible humor! By neighing plenty ... Thank you.
  12. +7
    April 29 2014 08: 26
    However, in recent years, more and more I find myself thinking that the current era of change is more and more to my taste.
    We generated these changes! This is our daily internal work "on mistakes", our dissatisfaction and annoyance at what happened to our Motherland, our bitterness and anger at the sight of the desecrated (with our connivance in the 90s) country. All this gave rise to a field of such strength that even the "dielectric swamp" was polarized. I want the "human sobs" of the fifth column to drown in our triumphant roar (as when celebrating a goal)
  13. Theton.
    +5
    April 29 2014 08: 29
    We live in an interesting time. The time of the strong in spirit and body. The time of the victory of justice over lies and malice.
    1. +2
      April 29 2014 08: 50
      I forgot to write about theft yet !!!
      Made fun of laughing laughing laughing
  14. KOH
    +1
    April 29 2014 08: 37
    They are not partners, but opponents ...
    1. +13
      April 29 2014 14: 46
      Quote: CON
      They are not partners, but opponents ...


      clickable.
      1. +4
        April 29 2014 15: 41
        there is no such word in Russian. who can be called those who now steers the United States and Europe. Putin calls them partners because he is too well brought up.
  15. +13
    April 29 2014 08: 43
    Yes, the author is right - we live in an era of change, and I am glad that these changes are changing the world for the better.
    The United States is now dropping saliva in powerless rage; they have not yet realized that the world has changed and will never be the same.
    1. 0
      1 May 2014 07: 36
      They understand and resist, but they get used to getting to wink
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  16. +14
    April 29 2014 08: 50
    Something like this)
  17. +3
    April 29 2014 09: 01
    We must make sure that the changes take shape in our favor.
  18. +7
    April 29 2014 09: 14
    With two such "partners" as the United States, and the EU and enemies are not necessary
    1. +4
      April 29 2014 09: 51
      So they are enemies, whatever the president would say.
  19. +2
    April 29 2014 09: 17
    Over the last four speeches of Putin, I have heard the phrase "our Chinese allies" three times. ... Ally - this is a different level.

    Against the background of these statements, Obama's anti-China tour of Asia took place. He managed to check in precisely in those countries that have unresolved territorial issues with China and promised all kinds of protection to everyone. Oh, America will finish badly. China hasn't really tackled it yet. When it does, then all these "clients" will immediately go over to the side of China. Because it's scary ...
  20. +1
    April 29 2014 09: 30
    For me, China is not an ally, and not even a partner, it is a quiet aggressor. Almost the entire domestic consumer market in Russia is Chinese goods. Vegetable plantations in the east of our country are Chinese. Part of the main Russian industries is in China (laws are more democratic there). So the dependence on China is much higher than on the United States. We depend on the United States only in that we pay in dollars and of course in that a significant part of our businessmen and aligarchs conduct their operations through American offshore companies.
  21. +3
    April 29 2014 09: 46
    As the American writer put it, "The American eagle is a carrion-eating bird that attacks small game." Grenada may still be game for SGA, but RUSSIA ...
  22. +6
    April 29 2014 09: 50
    To be honest, I’ve already become a bit overwhelmed by these changes that have been going on since 1985.
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  24. +2
    April 29 2014 09: 57
    I remember in the 50s we said: "The USSR and China - friendship for the ages!" "Russian and Chinese are brothers!" But after ... Damansky, etc. Let's hope it doesn't happen again. It's good that it's not right now. Of course, we are POWER together. But the Chinese dragon is unpredictable, perhaps even cunning when it suits him.
    1. +4
      April 29 2014 10: 02
      Tell me, what bald [censored] ended a friendship with the Chinese? And after what event began the cooling of relations?
  25. +4
    April 29 2014 10: 02
    Quote: La-5
    Conclusions on Geopolitics

    west snickering
    the east waited

    well, when is there a choice?
  26. +2
    April 29 2014 10: 20
    three times in a week the underlined wording "Chinese allies." One gets the impression that some in Europe may miss another feint of our unpredictable
    Everything can be bully ! I liked the article (plus)
  27. Sadikoff
    +9
    April 29 2014 10: 24
    Speaking of methods of dealing with democratizers
    "Quote
    Today he drank coffee with an Egyptian engineer of the Abdelnasser generation. That is, the dreamer of the USSR is stronger than many Soviet ones. In particular, they chatted about the situation when the States brought to power Mursik from the “Brothers of Muslims”, but could not keep him, and the military pushed him.

    And now the Egyptian said that the situation should have developed differently - the States were already on the way to a military solution - two landing ships, the San Antonio and the Kirsarge, were sent to the shores of Egypt, with helicopter groups and special forces. In response, the Egyptian warriors raised one of their regular MiG-21s, flew up at an ultra-low altitude and simulated a collision. After that, a conversation took place between representatives of the Egyptian and American military commands, during which the Egyptians offered amers to compare the cost of their ship and the cost of the ancient MiG-21, even taking into account its full filling with explosives. It seems like it was after that that the States turned a blind eye to the house arrest of Mursi, into whose cultivation so much dough was thrown, and no longer tried to force the situation by force.

    I did not find official information on the incident, but I fully admit that this was the case.
    http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/bindigos/post322843192/
    1. +2
      April 29 2014 13: 28
      Quite possible. They sailed in a quick way to punish the natives, and realizing that there could be BIG losses, they changed their minds. I remember "Donald Cook" and the report ...
    2. 0
      1 May 2014 07: 45
      it seems like such infa slipped somewhere, I recall something.
  28. GRune
    -2
    April 29 2014 10: 28
    China is not our ally! Turn to the east will not save, nifiga will not save, in the absence of an alternative to sales, the Chinese will pay pathetic pennies for resources and steal our technologies (we already sell S-400 to them). Therefore, it is necessary to resolve the issue in order to stay with European customers and slowly move to China. The most important thing is to develop our production, technology and science, we will live on raw materials for another 50 years and that's it.
    1. yulka2980
      +2
      April 29 2014 11: 17
      I myself thought if the Chinese would copy our technology, all the more they are much more likely to do it!
    2. COLUN
      +2
      April 29 2014 11: 31
      Quote: GRune
      The most important thing is to develop our production, technology and science, we will live on raw materials for another 50 years and that's it.

      On the whole I agree with "+", but I cannot agree with these raw materials for 50 years.
      Our pantry - Siberia still has such secrets ... And you can’t forget about the Arctic shelf, well, and when we get to our feet, we’ll also master Antarctica - by the right of discoverers !!!
      All of the above does not implore the need for the development of technological, production and scientific potential!
      1. GRune
        +1
        April 29 2014 16: 05
        Consumption is growing constantly ...
    3. 0
      April 29 2014 22: 50
      This is a plus. Because this is true. It is enough to compare the price of our resources (gas, oil), which Germany pays, with the Chinese price. I hope no one expects China to lose its profit?
    4. 0
      April 30 2014 17: 35
      Well, we sell the S-400 of course, only in the export version, i.e. without the most interesting lotions. Or vice versa, with other interesting ones, I don’t know. So let them copy, the flag, as they say, in hand. And the rest ... They tried on Damansky Island a tooth like a gold coin, evaluated and changed tactics and strategy. I think the Ministry of Foreign Affairs can better see how and with whom to be friends, they will figure it out smile
    5. +1
      1 May 2014 07: 20
      I can not agree with this judgment.
      China is the most obvious ally. This is a very pragmatic choice. And this choice was not made yesterday. We moved very carefully towards this alliance, waiting for the moment when such an alliance could be concluded on equal terms. Such a moment has come.
      An ally - this is not the one who is fed and for any reason publicly kissed passionately. Such alliances are flawed and short-lived. The history of the Warsaw Pact is evidence of this. The party leadership of the USSR relied on ideological "unity", economic integration and a military-political alliance, which was actually expressed in the deployment of our troops in Eastern Europe. The first two factors were provided, as is now obvious, by a very narrow layer of national party bosses, which by their nature were pro-Western (culture, mentality, etc.), and therefore crumbled (without our support) at the very first serious tests, and the last factor, the most significant, we removed ourselves with the hands of Gorbachev and EBN under the Kalinka-raspberry.
      With China, everything is different.
      Firstly, we have a common, very not calm "partner" who simply forces us to "be friends" against him.
      Secondly, the state of the economies of our countries is such that it allows us to single out a whole group of areas in which we can complement each other and have long-term mutually beneficial interests.
      For China, we are of interest not only as a source of raw materials, but also as a very capacious market for goods and technologies, which China "borrowed" from the West.
      For us, China is not only a consumer of our oil and gas, but also our military-technical technologies. Here we are still strong and hopefully we will become even stronger. No one is going to open the whole little egg here. China's patent law and know-how habits are well known to all. I’m sure that nobody will clap their ears here.
      In addition, China and Russia can very easily agree on zones of influence so as not to step on each other's feet.
      The Chinese mentality is fundamentally different from American hegemony. Glade is actually very large. For China - Southeast Asia, Africa and part of South America. (The Chinese understand that in our Siberia they simply will not survive, and why). The zone of Russia is Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, Central and part of South America. The scale of expansion is comparable to the scale of the economies of our countries.
      But the most important thing is that we are interested in China as a carrier of a distinctive economic model. Perhaps, at last, looking at China, we will be able to get rid of Gaidar's monetaryism and finally break out of the dollar monetary "universe."
  29. +6
    April 29 2014 10: 36
    oh, sanctioning abamka. It seems to me that soon we and our allies will introduce sanctions against him. and it will be truly mattress covers
  30. GRune
    +1
    April 29 2014 10: 44
    Cons went someone disagrees with the need to develop production and the finiteness of resources? Arguments in the studio.
  31. minaco
    +2
    April 29 2014 10: 52
    Change, our hearts demand! (C)
    It is unfortunate that the changes in the Donbass cost us so much blood, and we don’t need to forget about Kiev with a golden eagle and centuries, but the changes have already come and are moving on, let's see what they bring to us.
  32. +9
    April 29 2014 11: 03
    Judging by the drawing, another epic hero appeared in a Russian folk tale. Well, the spirit of the times. Only a hydra needs to be chopped off all at once: to both pinostan and europa.
  33. Alex_Popovson
    +2
    April 29 2014 11: 04
    Who will explain which country is meant by a pig (I don’t recognize the flag) and what does the Japanese symbolize?
    1. +1
      April 29 2014 15: 13
      Quote: Alex_Popovson
      Who will explain which country is meant by a pig (I don’t recognize the flag)


      Probably the European Union, which was clutched in the ear by the coloring of Latvia, I proceed from the fact that the hydra is the Big Twenty, except for the EU I do not see candidates for a pig.

      Quote: Alex_Popovson
      and what does the Japanese symbolize?


      One of the symbols of Japan are the pheasant and river turtle, - choose for yourself. hi
      1. +1
        April 29 2014 15: 29
        What about chrysanthemum? it is also a symbol of Japan, that's just where to attach it on this hydra, unless it is thrust into the ear ...
        1. +2
          April 29 2014 17: 58
          Quote: cumastra1
          What about chrysanthemum? it is also a symbol of Japan, that's just where to attach it on this hydra, unless it is thrust into the ear ...


          megaexpert-he

          As a person who is not indifferent to the history and culture of Japan, I authoritatively declare:
          - officially, neither sakura nor chrysanthemum are Japan’s symbolic flowers; they are revered there, well what like a lily in France, or Nazis in England - no more.
          Officially claim the symbol of Japan:
          - pheasant;
          - a crane with such a characteristic red spot on the head - similar to the Japanese official flag;
          - raccoon dog.

          all other carps-haiko-pines past the cash register.

          megaexpert-off
      2. 0
        April 29 2014 15: 29
        What about chrysanthemum? it is also a symbol of Japan, that's just where to attach it on this hydra, unless it is thrust into the ear ...
      3. Alex_Popovson
        0
        April 30 2014 22: 30
        except for EU candidates for a pig I do not see

        I’m also thinking, but the EU’s colors are blue and yellow, not blue and white.
        river turtle

        Wow! Well, skull visually fits, thanks!
  34. Gagarin
    +6
    April 29 2014 11: 27
    I would like to supplement.
    For some reason, it seems to me that if WE win this time, then unlike the former, the hydra will not be resurrected. Western ideology is dying, this is its last battle, last chance, agony.
    Quote: Espado
    Yes, the author is right - we live in an era of change, and I am glad that these changes are changing the world for the better.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      0
      April 30 2014 16: 00
      Quote: Gagarin
      Western ideology is dying, this is its last battle, last chance, agony.

      In Europe, Islam will kill her. And who will finish the named ideology with us?
  35. Zera
    +1
    April 29 2014 11: 32
    The picture in the article really liked ... very deep :)
  36. +1
    April 29 2014 11: 49
    Lenya Golubkov remembered. I'm not a freeloader, I'm a partner ...
  37. Shallow
    +1
    April 29 2014 12: 10
    The Chinese have a wise proverb: "So that you live in an era of change." Something like a curse.
    -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
    ---------

    But then - the Chinese wrote.

    And here Tyutchev wrote better!
    Blessed is he who visited this world
    In his moments of fatal
    He was sent all-good
    As an interlocutor. to the Feast ...
  38. +3
    April 29 2014 12: 34
    Quote: Igor39
    Listening to Putin. Conclusions about geopolitics

    And reading Putin:
  39. +2
    April 29 2014 13: 13
    We have no enemies. This he himself said not so long ago - The most important trick of the Devil is to convince everyone that he is not.
  40. 0
    April 29 2014 13: 13
    Well, gentlemen, laughter with laughter, and our country on the threshold of war and on the threshold of war is not cold, but global.
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  42. +4
    April 29 2014 13: 20
    We must wait and see. It really hurts PUTIN calm against the backdrop of the developing situation. I think he has a trump card in his deck, and not one. And he still holds them. drinks
    1. +1
      April 29 2014 19: 41
      He also hangs epaulets to fools. wink
  43. +2
    April 29 2014 13: 21
    Our main ally is the realization that we ourselves are not enemies ... And the understanding that we are the best and not h.r.e. looking back at someone.
  44. +1
    April 29 2014 13: 23
    Yes, with partners subtly noticed.
  45. pedro7707
    0
    April 29 2014 13: 42
    So much for the sanctions.
    Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder celebrated his 70th birthday tonight in St. Petersburg. Vladimir Putin came to congratulate his friend. Photos from the magazine "Der Spiegel": Schroeder greets Putin on the threshold of the Yusupov Palace, where the celebration took place; Alexey Miller was one of the first to arrive.
  46. pedro7707
    -9
    April 29 2014 14: 13
    Today I realized that the Civil War in Russia has begun! Yes exactly! I also understood how the year 1937 began in Russia. How did the repression begin?
    Sunny morning, a phone rings:
    “- Good morning, Mom!”
    - The prison is crying for you! I finally read your article. You insult the president in it! You are no longer my son. At a time when the whole country ...
    - And what about the country? The country attacked another, seized its land, kills its citizens, and the president, indeed, if all this does.
    - All! You are no longer my son! I will never help you again! Do not call again!
    -Do you want your grandson to be sent to this war ?! So that he would kill those who speak the same language as he does? And then they killed him? For just that? For the stupidity and ambitions of a nearby colonel? ”
    The answer is an abandoned pipe!
    That is how the civil war begins. It begins with the split of the family, when the mother becomes against her son, daughter against her father, brother against brother. So there are concentration camps, so they kill the dissent, they kill with the hands of their relatives, people closest to them. This is the worst war of all armed conflicts. It has no real reasons, it is not being fought for land, it is not being fought for spheres of influence, and it cannot be justified. Only ideology.
    That is exactly what the potential war with Ukraine is for me! For me, Ukraine is part of me. It’s hard for me to accept that my right hand will cut my left. There is no reason for this action other than schizophrenia. And this can be stopped if you go to the doctors on time and take the medicine.
    External aggression will unite Ukraine, and Russia will ruin this war. Thousands of sons will die, and no one will help their mothers. Are mothers ready to send their sons to the slaughter for a golden loaf? Thousands of children will be left without fathers. Who will explain to them why they died? Who will help them grow and which of them will grow? Are they aware of this? Or, as usual, everyone thinks that this will not affect them? Like, this will happen to the neighbors, but will everything be okay with us? No, never will, never will be!
    Thousands of former soldiers will not receive fame and honors. On the contrary, they will be forced to hide their participation in it, since this war will be recognized as criminal, and, accordingly, all those who took part in it will be criminals, persons who have executed criminal orders. This has already happened in history, it is enough to recall the Nuremberg trials. It was clearly and clearly indicated that the execution of a criminal order is a crime and is subject to criminal liability if it entailed serious consequences.

    The death of the enemy under these conditions will be equated, on the part of the attackers, with murder, and on the part of the defenders this will be recognized as the right to self-defense. Both those who gave orders and those who executed them, as well as those who supported and created the conditions for their execution, will be recognized as criminals.
    I would like to ask those who plan and carry out preparatory actions for this war, are they aware of the consequences of their actions? How many steps are they planning? And what will happen next? Or do they think that having unleashed a war, they will emerge victorious from it, and they will not judge the victors? To do this, you need to win ... Yes, and by the way, Karadzic with Milosevic is not an example for them?
    Think! Time is running out!
    1. +1
      April 29 2014 17: 36
      Oh, not "pedro" you, not "pedro" ...
    2. +1
      April 29 2014 19: 42
      There are few in Brazil Don Pedro ....
  47. +1
    April 29 2014 14: 30
    as in that song .... "big changes await us ... certainly, everything will be awesome" wink
  48. +1
    April 29 2014 14: 41
    All these attempts more and more look like an attempt to put pressure on the sting.
    America can only save World War III. The current in this case, you can rally the world around the states and again put everyone on green candy wrappers. And forget about your own debt under the guise. But we need a real dictator at the head of a powerful empire state. And she is increasingly looking for an adversary. Almost everyone who has been tried before is already defeated. Has not left the World Aggressors from Hussein and Gaddafi. Do not reach the evil empire while Iran and the DPRK. United Europe, it is in the role of an auxiliary ally, there any attempt to take leadership in the orchestra is stopped by a neighboring bow. China dominates in Asia - that's where all the production is. America cannot deprive itself of its own production base.
    Russia is most suitable for the role of the enemy. You don’t even have to prove anything. We have been enemies for them for decades. It just doesn’t work with Russia. It’s too tough for them to Russia. From this and angry. And scurry from side to side like jackals.
    The main thing for us now is not to miss the moment when they rush at us in their dying attempt to grab a bit more painfully. To beat off this attack with a canvas boot, so that whining and nova, without teeth, you wash with your blood and crawled away to die in the cemetery of forgotten empires.
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 07: 13
      World War III will not save anyone ... in the best case, it will throw those who can survive it into a primitive society. The scenario of the 3rd world is simple to madness - the question is what needs to be done for the first launch? In any case, we should start from Europe - with their missile defense. That is the millionth question - why is Europe hosting the American missile defense system at home? Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc. fall under the first blow - and for the full effect nuclear - this is the same as in the forest next to the bear’s den, smear with honey and watch what happens.
  49. miha.ru
    +2
    April 29 2014 14: 44
    well, China will establish dominance over the Asian part., and we have enough of our territory, plus you can shove awesome technologies for gas, so that in vain all the worst man criticized Putin earlier, he can take into account mistakes not only in the past but recently
    GLORY OF RUSSIA !!!!!!!!
  50. +1
    April 29 2014 15: 04
    so that China is more loyal and honest towards us, we will not have to make the strait between Canada and Mexico, but give this territory to them and we will take away our native Alaska. feel
  51. Nikich
    +2
    April 29 2014 15: 05
    Oh, I wouldn’t trust China so much. The population is large, there is not enough territory. And nearby are practically uninhabited Siberia and the Far East, also full of resources
  52. +1
    April 29 2014 16: 09
    China is not just a country, it is not just a power, it is a whole direction and its own unique ideology and logic. It is precisely the uniqueness of logic that makes it impossible to predict Beijing’s behavior and plans in the near and medium term in terms of geopolitics. You can say that we are allies, but the word “allies” also refers to fleeting events. Our interests simply coincide. Be that as it may, it is still necessary to unite the entire RUSSIAN people into one and build a great state, which the Russian Empire has always been, and then the USSR. This is the only possible path in the history of Rus'!
  53. +1
    April 29 2014 16: 14
    Quote: kaa1977
    Somehow, for me, China is not an ally, or even a partner, it is a quiet aggressor. Almost the entire domestic consumer market in Russia consists of Chinese goods. Vegetable plantations in the east of our country are Chinese. Some of the main Russian production is in China (the laws there are more democratic). So dependence on China is much higher than on the USA. We depend on the USA only by paying dollars

    Don't be offended, for God's sake, but the reasoning is worse than ever. The producer is the aggressor, and the usurer is the virtue. You probably just don’t understand how the dollar sucks money out of the world economy. Read it, it's useful. As an example, I’ll write to you about inflation. It would seem - well, what’s wrong with it, inflation, say, 5 percent. But the fact is that from the ruble that you had on January 1, 2013, someone stole 5 kopecks for the year, and in fact you had 95 kopecks left. And these 5 kopecks did not dissolve in space, they specifically settled in someone’s pocket according to the law of conservation of matter. I hope it's clear. Something similar happens when we use someone else's banknotes. We use it, and the percentage ends up with the Americans. Like we have to pay them for candy wrappers, we can’t print the candy wrappers ourselves. And no one forces people to buy from the Chinese by force. Who stops you from growing potatoes and dill on your own land?
    As for the hints made by other authors about fraud on the part of China, I don’t think so. There seem to be no examples of outright political scammers. Thinking is different, yes, the philosophy is different. But with them it’s clear where and why they want to go. If they are being cunning, then it is understandable that they are being cunning. These are not outright scammers from NATO and the USA.
  54. +3
    April 29 2014 17: 25
    Quote: pedro7707
    Today I realized that the Civil War in Russia has begun! Yes exactly! I also understood how the year 1937 began in Russia. How did the repression begin?
    Sunny morning, a phone rings:
    “- Good morning, mommy! - The prison is crying for you! I finally read your article. ... ... ...
    Think! Time is running out!


    Pedro, why aren't you on censor.net? Did you get kicked out of there for being too Russophobic? laughing
    Maidaunische, you should have thought before, before you signed the contract with the Pentagon, then your mother wouldn’t have given up on you laughing Oh, fat troll with a gay nickname)
    He should have given a plus for the phrase: “This is the most terrible war of all armed conflicts. It has no real reasons, it is not fought for land, it is not fought for spheres of influence, and nothing can justify it. Only ideology.” This war will decide whether we will continue to build our country the way we need it, or whether the bastards666 will creep even closer to us through Ukraine.
  55. +2
    April 29 2014 18: 21
    "-This is called the Rudder..."
  56. +1
    April 29 2014 19: 00
    pedro7707 RU Today, 14:13
    Today I realized that the Civil War in Russia has begun! Yes exactly! I also understood how the year 1937 began in Russia. How did the repression begin?

    Is this like a cry from the heart or a joint??
  57. Rabbit
    0
    April 29 2014 19: 23
    Thanks to the so-called GDP, Russia and its fall after the collapse
  58. 0
    April 29 2014 21: 02
    Quote: Deniska
    Our main allies are the army and navy. All the rest - according to the situation


    Judging by the picture, our main allies "Army and CAT" wassat wassat wassat


    This made me a lot of fun for the whole day :))))))))))
  59. Alex62
    0
    April 29 2014 21: 14
    Quote: Philemon
    Medvedev business executive ??? Stop smoking this rubbish ...

    I agree one hundred percent.
  60. +5
    April 29 2014 21: 37
    Crimea surrendered - Crimea accepted
  61. 0
    April 29 2014 22: 09
    Quote: GRune
    Cons went someone disagrees with the need to develop production and the finiteness of resources? Arguments in the studio.


    The minuses went to energy resources. There are more of them than you think. They will last exactly as long as they are needed. No more and no less.
  62. +1
    April 29 2014 22: 16
    God bless the president. To the tolerant liberals, he’s like a soldering iron in the ass. Putin would like to sort out the “team”... otherwise it would be dumb to somehow do big things with “Harvard graduates” and offshore oligarchs like them.
  63. D9630
    0
    April 29 2014 22: 21
    Our main allies are the army and navy.

    Our main allies are oil and gas.
    1. 0
      April 29 2014 22: 50
      Foe. How does this affect you?
  64. 0
    April 29 2014 22: 34
    There are only a few things that confuse me:
    1. Russians and Chinese are brothers forever. That's what they said under I. Stalin. And then there were battles for the well-known island on the border. Thus, the age of friendship lasts on average 20-30 years. Well, okay - enough for our lifetime, and then let the descendants sort it out.
    2. The huge ears of the United States are painfully visible in their interest in pushing Russia into the arms of China. A little alarming.
    And so, I am only for friendly relations with China, coupled with the punishment of stupid Geyropa and the decrepit USA
  65. 0
    April 29 2014 22: 59
    Russia and China together are a definite end to US hegemony!!! All that remains is for this COLLOS to be kicked in the ass so that it crumbles...
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 01: 16
      “scattering” the states is the wrong task at the moment - a lot of jackals dream of snatching at least a piece of their power and “solving” their problems.
      These “opponent partners” of ours should be sobered up: doused with water, hit with their faces on the table, but without going overboard - just let them come to their senses and direct them to good deeds.
  66. Polarfox
    0
    April 29 2014 23: 27
    Quote: delfinN
    Only the hydra needs to chop off all the heads at once:

    Well, why so radical? Chop immediately. Europe, I think, just needs to kick its ass and it will come to its senses. Both Paris and Berlin, unlike Washington, still remember the thunder of Russian boots on their pavements. And chopping off the heads of real enemies, not blockheads.

    As for China, alliance is, of course, a good thing. And promising. It’s just not worth kissing the Chinese, forgetting that an ally may well get into his pocket during a brotherly hug. That is, “Friendship” long johns in exchange for gas and all that stuff, but the ears must be held with a hatchet.
  67. rezident
    -1
    April 30 2014 00: 42
    That’s what I like about Putin: he treats the enemy with respect, calling them partners, although rather sworn ones. For me, Europe means new technologies, materials, machines, microelectronics, advanced medicine and education. Well, the people on this site who incline the word “gay” in all sorts of ways only cause concern for their sexual orientation. For example, no matter how many times I went to Europe, I never met unconventionally oriented people there, but I think these comrades would certainly find them to be their favorite.
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 01: 12
      please edit your post, starting with the words “no matter how much I traveled” - it seemed to me personally: that’s what they went for, to find.
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  68. stff
    0
    April 30 2014 01: 02
    I agree with cerbuk6155, the GDP has an ace in the deck, so far it is Snowden and Yanukovych.. Snowden has evidence about all the unofficially involved heads of European countries in the Libyan bombing (for example, Frau Merkel); Yanukovych knows a lot about those who gave him an ultimatum not to give orders for the police/golden eagle to attack the protesters on the Maidan, and he pays for the Donbass at the same time..
  69. 0
    April 30 2014 01: 33
    Sanctions have rallied the people even more around the center of power. The more sanctions are applied, the more our people rivet demotivators. We will break through, we will not retreat. The time for a great Russia is coming. It is our fate that the world will escape from chaos and madness. How proud I am that I was born here and not in some lousy EU or America.
  70. +1
    April 30 2014 02: 16
    It's high time to turn to the East. There are developing markets there. But the fact that they make plastic worse than European ones is for now. In five to seven years it will also be of European quality.
  71. EugeneTimi
    0
    April 30 2014 06: 34
    Both people and gods are captivated by a good gift ...
  72. Batman
    +1
    April 30 2014 08: 16
    I would also like to emphasize that Russia is slowly and quietly getting rid of the use of the dollar. For example, they started buying oil from Iran for our goods (and no dollar). With China, who knows what currency we trade in?

    In China, by the way, in neighboring provinces you can buy goods in rubles :)
  73. Nikich
    0
    April 30 2014 08: 35
    Quote: Batman
    I would also like to emphasize that Russia is slowly and quietly getting rid of the use of the dollar. For example, they started buying oil from Iran for our goods (and no dollar). With China, who knows what currency we trade in?

    In China, by the way, in neighboring provinces you can buy goods in rubles :)

    It seems like there was a proposal three years ago to switch to ruble-yuan payments, but somehow everything died out
  74. Pesnyadv
    +1
    April 30 2014 09: 00
    As long as the USA exists as it is, Russia cannot live in peace.

    No, not just calm.
    Russia is in constant tension waiting for war tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ...
    conclusion - the United States should change its essence or, simply, disappear as a state !!!

    Nuclear war is not an option.
    There will be no one to enjoy the Victory. belay

    There is another way out - to destroy the United States from within. good
    This can be done together with China, ruining the US economy, collapsing the dollar.

    Russia withdrew its main dollar assets from the blow.
    It remains to promise China something to compensate for their dollar losses.
    And then he will sacrifice his dollar reserves. drinks

    There are a lot of options for compensating dollar losses.
    - The division of world raw materials.
    - Something to spit from their stocks.
    - The division of markets.

    I see that this can be discussed at the next meeting of our leadership and the leadership of China.
    Therefore, this delegation is headed personally by V.V. Putin drinks
  75. 0
    April 30 2014 10: 47
    Quote: PesnyaDV
    Nuclear war is not an option.
    There will be no one to enjoy the Victory.

    There is another way out - to destroy the United States from within.
    This can be done together with China, ruining the US economy, collapsing the dollar.


    All this is, of course, good. But the basis of China's economic success lies in the supply of goods to the United States. The presence of a sales market is also a resource, and no less important than minerals. In the event of the collapse of the US economy through the collapse of the dollar - and this is possible with joint actions with China - China will not only lose its dollar foreign exchange reserves, but also the huge US market, which cannot be replaced.
    The pragmatic Chinese leadership is unlikely to cut the branch on which they are sitting.
  76. 0
    April 30 2014 11: 03
    There will never be a Big Two. Or there will be only one China. Or, in the near future, we will have to make a fuss, and after lowering the USA and Europe to the level of the plinth, take them as partners and make the Big Four. Otherwise we may get completely lost.
  77. scorpion ship
    -1
    April 30 2014 11: 46
    Quote: Igor39
    The Chinese have a wise proverb: “May you live in an era of change.”

    There is a good Russian proverb, and there is a Jewish one, but the article is correct.
    Only NOBODY wants to ruin the dollar and our president is not our friend, he is our enemy (together with their government), because he does not understand the aspirations of our people (including those on the outskirts).
    1. 0
      April 30 2014 11: 51
      Quote: scorpionship
      our president is not our friend, he is our enemy (along with their government), because he does not understand the aspirations of our people (including those on the outskirts).

      Navalny, you’re not allowed to surf the Internet, why the hell are you violating court sanctions?
  78. Pesnyadv
    0
    April 30 2014 12: 15
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: PesnyaDV
    Nuclear war is not an option.
    There will be no one to enjoy the Victory.

    There is another way out - to destroy the United States from within.
    This can be done together with China, ruining the US economy, collapsing the dollar.


    All this is, of course, good. But the basis of China's economic success lies in the supply of goods to the United States. The presence of a sales market is also a resource, and no less important than minerals. In the event of the collapse of the US economy through the collapse of the dollar - and this is possible with joint actions with China - China will not only lose its dollar foreign exchange reserves, but also the huge US market, which cannot be replaced.
    The pragmatic Chinese leadership is unlikely to cut the branch on which they are sitting.


    You obviously didn't read my post. stop
    I offered options to compensate China for their potential losses.
    Proposals can and should be much more complex.

    Regarding the market and its importance for China.
    China today is on a short leash for the United States.
    they are bound by one chain.

    And China DOESN'T LIKE it. He wants to get rid of this collar.
    A way out can be found in dialogue with Russia!
    Otherwise, Russia may threaten to solve its problems on its own or together with others WITHOUT CHINA.
    And then China will not be able to be offended. After all, they offered him the UNION. drinks

    And Russia MUST change the leadership of the USA or it will ALWAYS be on the brink of a BIG war, which will always be provoked by the USA! soldier soldier soldier
  79. benesorovab
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    April 30 2014 16: 52
    Kopi Luwak coffee in Moscow
  80. AAF
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    April 30 2014 17: 23
    Our the elders allies.
  81. GREAT RUSSIA
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    April 30 2014 18: 25
    In short, the KGB agent and the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of Defense have beaten the United States in Crimea like a rag, now all that remains is to do the same in Ukraine, and then, as always, negotiations this way and that.
  82. andreigaruda19
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    April 30 2014 19: 33
    There is a better saying: “SO SEEK AFTER YOU HAVE FOUND”
  83. 0
    1 May 2014 00: 22
    Of course, the phrase of Alexander3 is known: “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the rest, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.” And China is no exception here. With him, as with others, you have to keep your nose to the wind. But in what countries do they sing “Rise up, great country...”, film their own version of “And the dawns here are quiet”, read “Young Guard”? Of course, the emphasis here is more Soviet, but respect for Russia is clearly visible. This is probably the fate of Russia - to forever balance between West and East. Too strong a tilt in any direction is disastrous for Russia.
  84. 0
    1 May 2014 06: 12
    If Chubais doesn’t sit, everything is slag.
  85. raf
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    1 May 2014 10: 46
    Let's wait and see! China is a huge and promising prospect if there is no kicking and scamming on their part. And of course South and Central America, where not everything is so clear, except for Cuba.
  86. 0
    1 May 2014 10: 51
    Quote: Lawless
    History shows that always attacked from the west ...


    I don't agree. And Japan, and conflicts with the same China in the 50s... Batu also came from the east in due time! wink
  87. commbatant
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    1 May 2014 12: 14
    map of China
    China is a weak ally:
    The PLA is huge in number but stupid; the ratio of modern military and military equipment is negligible in relation to the armies of the South Caucasus, Japan, and the USA. The PLA has not fought for a long time (that is, it has no second-hand experience) and all the military companies in the 20th century were screwed. Some segments of the PLA are underdeveloped and are at the level of the 60-70s.
    The military-industrial complex has a weak scientific base and the presence of the production of obsolete military and military equipment, unable to compete with monopolists in the field of arms trade - the USA and the Russian Federation (it is one thing to sell aircraft like the MiG-21, under its own name and slightly modernized to Pakistan, another thing is to compete with the same Great Britain and France on the arms market).
    Economy, transport, industry, energy, etc. All are located on the Pacific coast of the country.
    Geography - all fertile lands and water sources are located in the east of the country, the rest of the territory is mountains, steppes, deserts...
  88. fall
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    1 May 2014 16: 16
    Change in the share of Russians in the population of the republics of the North Caucasus (%)

    We often hear that the main reason for Russians leaving the North Caucasus is the elimination of industry in the region. To a certain extent, this is true. But sociologists in the Soviet era noted that the most common reason for the Russians leaving was the lack of personal security. Today it is all the more true. And in this case we are not talking about terrorism, but about the significant criminalization of Caucasian society.

    In general, the Russian authorities are well aware of the problems that the de-Russification of the North Caucasus creates. In the Social and Economic Development Strategy of the North Caucasus Federal District before 2025, the outflow of the Russian-speaking population is called one of the main problems of the region, and its termination and the return of the Russian population is a strategic task of the state.

    In recent years, certain attempts have been made to reverse the situation: programs have been implemented to resettle Russians in Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan. However, judging by the dynamics of the Russian population, programs in all republics have failed. And the republican leaders themselves rated their effectiveness extremely low. Here are the words of the head of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, said in 2010: “There was no effect. The only effect was that someone partially made money on it. Mostly officials. <...> Even now I am looking for, I cannot find those who returned under this program, I give an instruction to the head of the administration: find at least one family with whom I could talk, who would return under this program. Now it is impossible to find such a family, you will not find it. "

    On the whole, it seems that the programs for the return of Russians to the North Caucasus were somehow not implemented seriously. Federal TV channels did not invite to move to Chechnya, there were no billboards on the streets of Russian cities inviting to Ingushetia, there were no articles in the popular press campaigning to live and work in Dagestan. These programs went quietly, and the overwhelming majority of Russians never learned about them.

    Moreover, the “suitcase mood” among Russians in the North Caucasus today dominates. According to the study “The National Question in the Russian Social and Political Life” *, presented in September of this year in the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, almost all (79%) Russian youth living in the republics of the North Caucasus are ready to leave their small homeland and move to another Russian region. That is, it can be said with confidence that the outflow of Russians from the North Caucasus will continue.

    In recent years, another extremely alarming trend has emerged: under pressure from immigrants from the North Caucasian republics, Russians are already leaving the Stavropol Territory. The Russian authorities also know about this, for example, this is stated in the "Strategy for the Social and Economic Development of the North Caucasus Federal District before the 2025 of the Year." However, the steps taken, as well as attempts to return Russians to the North Caucasus, do not give an effect.

    As an illustration, we will cite the story of one of the leaders of the Stavropol Territory: “Russians don’t even go to the Stavropol Territory. In our city of Stavropol, a military camp was built, beautiful, with infrastructure, with a kindergarten, with a school. It stands empty, the military did not go to it. This military town was just built so that the military drove here. We expected an increase in the male population, an increase in the Russian-speaking population and, again, in the military. That is, it was done to strengthen the region with such a population. But people did not go. The town is empty. This we are talking about Stavropol. If they do not come here, then who will go to the republics? ”It is very characteristic that this manager asked not to be named.
    Some nations are more equal
  89. 0
    1 May 2014 16: 30
    Health to everyone! I read everything diagonally! - I thought - and realized that I would have to pay for friendship with China either with the Urals or Siberia!
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