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The voice of an American dissident: NATO's lies about Russia

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The site "Voice of the dissident" An article by Walter C. Uhler appeared, entitled “Dear NATO, are you lying about Russia or are you simply incompetent?” Comrade Aler is an independent expert whose materials are published in various publications, including The Nation, The Bulletin of Scientists -atomists ”,“ Military Journal stories, Moscow Times and the San Francisco Chronicle. This scientist is the president of the Russian-American Association for International Studies (RAISA).


The expert recalls that NATO has released another leaflet called "Russian accusations: the true state of affairs." This bulletin contains the following statement: “Russian officials claim that American and German officials promised in 1990 that NATO would not expand to Eastern and Central Europe, build military infrastructure near Russian borders, or deploy troops there on a permanent basis.” The NATO officials declared such statements to be a lie: "There were no such promises, and no evidence to support Russian claims was made."

The author, however, points to material in the German magazine Der Spiegel from November 2009. The article cites the conversation between the German Foreign Minister and the USSR Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze.

“10 February 1990 of the year, between 4 and 6: 30 evenings, [German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich] Genscher spoke with [USSR Foreign Minister Eduard] Shevardnadze. According to the German conversation recording, which was only recently declassified, Genscher said: “We realize that for a united Germany, membership in NATO raises difficult questions. For us, however, one thing is clear: NATO will not expand eastwards. ” Since the conversation was conducted mainly around East Germany, Genscher added: "As for the non-expansion of NATO (non-expansion of NATO), this is true in general."


Genscher, of course, was not the first to say this. Earlier, US Secretary of State James Baker gave similar assurances to M. S. Gorbachev. In addition to Gorbachev himself, the former US ambassador to the Soviet Union, Jack Matlock, is also aware of this.

Thus, the American analyst concludes, in the NATO bulletin we deal with either blatant lies or with the incompetence of researchers. A deliberate lie seems to be more likely, the author believes, especially when you consider what the NATO bulletin says below.

And then the "researchers" argue that if such a promise had been made by the alliance, then the "official written decision of all NATO allies" would have to remain.

Aler then recalls that Stephen Cohen, one of the most respected American scientists specializing in Russia, insists that Barack Obama deceived Vladimir Putin about the planned operation in Libya, and that is why Putin refuses to believe him today (Putin himself said this 17 April 2014 year).

Obviously, Obama knows very little about Russia, the author notes. But, regardless of who deceived Putin, one should understand one thing: Russia, which was not misled about the Libyan operation, would, of course, veto the UN Security Council resolution 1973.

Unfulfilled promises made to Russia by the West and NATO have been repeatedly accompanied by insincerity, duplicity and dishonesty, Aler said. And, nevertheless, the ignorant people who are turning American politics into filth, and the media, as well as the “think tanks,” poured contempt upon Russia — as if nothing of the kind had happened.

However, it’s not just NATO expansion. The analyst calls the “most dishonest” section of the NATO bulletin where the so-called legitimacy of the provisional government in Kiev is defended. The compilers of the bulletin "unforgivably silent" about the events that led to the change of government.

For example, the newsletter does not even mention that the President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, was legally elected by the people in 2010 for five years.

It is not reported in the document that on the very day when Yanukovych decided to abandon plans to sign the Association Agreement with the European Union, the Gromadske TV channel began to broadcast programs in which a pro-American reporter called on students and young people to gather in Independence Square and protest against the decision of Yanukovych.

The newsletter also does not mention that “Gromadske TV” is the brainchild of US Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Payette.

And does the NATO bulletin mention Victoria Nuland's behavior? Russian expert John Quigley notes that she “stepped across the line usually followed by foreign powers when she came out onto the streets of Kiev in December. Thus, Nuland pointedly equated herself with the protesters and expressed support for Ukraine’s accession to the European Union. According to a recent audio recording of a conversation she had with the American ambassador in Kiev, Jeffrey Payette, Nuland also apparently took part in developing a strategy to change the composition of the government of Ukraine. Usually diplomats and foreign officials avoid participation in domestic politics. For this kind of activity, an employee of a diplomatic or consular mission risks becoming a persona non grata. ”

Stephen Cohen believes that neoconservative Nuland and Ambassador Payette were preparing to overthrow the government of Yanukovych. Professor Cohen made another important observation. According to him, “no one in this country wants to talk” about the fact that the West is responsible for what happened - and, therefore, also has blood on its hands. According to Cohen, Western states "make completely banal statements that, by virtue of their emptiness, encourage and justify actions in Ukraine for those who threw petrol bombs and who now have weaponwho shot the police. We would not allow this to happen in any western capital, no matter how fair the reason may seem to us, but at the same time, the European Union and Washington connive at it. ”

The NATO newsletter does not say a word about violence by members of the Freedom Party and the Right Sector.

Finally, there is nothing in this newsletter about the 20 sniper fire of February, which began during Yanukovych’s meeting with the opposition and EU mediators from France, Germany and Poland. Although many observers initially assumed that snipers were Yanukovych’s people, during the testimony it became clear that most of the shooters fired from the Kiev Philharmonic and the well-guarded hotel Ukraine (both objects were under the control of the protesters that day). In addition, it is known that the night before, the protesters seized the arsenal of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Lviv and transported weapons to Kiev.

Summing up the material of Comrade Alera, we note that the White House and the top NATO can not fool the enlightened sensible people. However, alas, the Washington propaganda, promoted by the forces of the State Department bought the media, drowns out a few voices of reason in the USA. Please note: the resource where the Alera article is published is called “Dissident Voice”.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun April 29 2014 07: 52
    +70
    The West has always deceived us.

    I come to the conclusion that the West (Europe and the USA) understand only the language of force, despite all their "democracy", "tolerance" and "postindustriality."

    We must resist!

    No need to fear sanctions. No need to listen to the fifth column and Kudrin. Seasoned.

    It is necessary to strengthen industry and strive for food, pharmaceutical and industrial safety.
    1. Khalmamed
      Khalmamed April 29 2014 08: 18
      +48
      With YOU! .., but in conjunction with this RUSSIA - OUR HOUSE OUR CLEANING IS NECESSARY !!! already yesterday from their yod-selling homegrown liberals and masons in RUSSIAN SUBJECTS!
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    3. nstarinsky
      nstarinsky April 29 2014 08: 26
      +25
      More language of power they are afraid of Russian politeness. Like in the Crimea ...
    4. Singularist
      Singularist April 29 2014 09: 04
      +23
      Kudrin, it's time to judge as a traitor
      1. ussr1960
        ussr1960 April 29 2014 11: 11
        -13%
        Judge? Sorry for what? I myself do not agree with most of his statements. BUT. He has his own opinion as an economist and believe me a good economist. Or is it already a crime to have an opinion, like in Ukraine?
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen April 29 2014 12: 48
          +44
          Quote: ussr1960
          Judge? Sorry for what? I myself do not agree with most of his statements. BUT. He has his own opinion as an economist and believe me a good economist. Or is it already a crime to have an opinion, like in Ukraine?


          So you can be a professional, but with the "-" sign !!!
          If he is a good economist, then in which direction is his knowledge directed? Obviously not in the direction of strengthening the economy of the Russian Federation. Over the 11 years (from 2000 to 2011) of its financial management of the Russian Federation, it was both a raw material power, and in essence it remained the same as it serviced the US economy with its money, and we service:

          1. Kudrin increases the stabilization fund to the detriment of the development of the Russian economy

          2. Kudrin secured the transfer of the stabilization fund to the United States and its investment in debt bonds of the US Treasury and partially in the game on the stock exchange (according to government decree No. 229 of 21.04.2006/XNUMX/XNUMX)

          3. In the 2006 budget, the oil cut-off price = $ 27 per barrel, while in the world market it = 70. The difference goes to the stabilization fund, ie in USA. Attempts by deputies to increase the bar to 50 were blocked by Kudrin.

          4. Kudrin is lobbying for the division of the budget into 2 parts: oil and other taxes. He wants to give the oil part to the USA through the stabilization fund, and spend the rest of the money from the falling economy domestically taking into account the budget surplus (the surplus will also go to the US stabilization fund).

          5. Kudrin wants to prevent the dollar from falling and fix its exchange rate at around 27 rubles / $. If the buck starts to fall, print rubles and support the dollar.

          6. Kudrin, together with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, accelerated inflation in the country by issuing rubles to maintain the dollar at MICEX at around 27. In just 1 week, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation threw out $ 8 billion on the MICEX. to support the dollar.

          7. Kudrin accused teachers, doctors and pensioners of accelerating inflation in 2006, because they had to increase salaries and pensions. Amounts lumped to the foreign exchange market to support the dollar cannot be compared with Kudrin’s handouts to state employees and accelerate inflation much more strongly.

          8. Kudrin counts everything, including Russian budget money in US dollars

          9. Kudrin considers the bill banning the indication of value in foreign currency absurd
          http://www.interfax.ru/r/B/politics/2.html?id_issue=11522465

          10. Kudrin, together with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, is selling gold from gold reserves for dollars, while the rest of the world is buying it.

          11. Kudrin completely rejects the state. investment in the economy, although in many countries it was government investment that boosted the economy

          But from 2000 to 2011 the Kudrinsky "root" was in power. Didn't you see anything? Was he "deceived" again? And did the "spine" not recently invited Kudrin to return to the government! Probably that he would be "deceived" again))))) ... or maybe he shares his views?

          In Russia, it somehow happened that for a simple man, if any misunderstandings arise, then the tsar is not to blame 100%, he is simply forever "deceived" in any case ...)))))

          Our economy is geared towards serving the interests of the United States, and here we are talking about some kind of "self-sufficiency" ...

          But the wind of change seems to be gaining strength ... and to whom to say thanks to me personally is not entirely clear.
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat April 29 2014 13: 53
            +10
            Thank you for the trinity: Shoigu, Rogozin, Glazyev. The main ringleader of modern "perestroika" is Shoigu. wink
            1. pavel_SPB
              pavel_SPB April 29 2014 14: 33
              +1
              but it’s like they’re doing everything right request
              1. kanevsvv
                kanevsvv April 30 2014 19: 18
                0
                of course right! soldier
            2. kanevsvv
              kanevsvv April 30 2014 19: 20
              +3
              I will say thanks! Shoigu restores order in the army, Glazyev in economics, Rogozin in the military-industrial complex! Let there be more real men and professionals in their field.
          2. pavel_SPB
            pavel_SPB April 29 2014 14: 33
            +1
            yes to the count of his dog stinker am
          3. EvgenSuslov
            EvgenSuslov April 29 2014 15: 23
            +14
            In fact, you are both right.
            And the fact that Kudrin is a good economist and the fact that he is a "traitor"
            I will explain. Kudrin is actually a great specialist with experience and brains. He tried to build our economy in a unipolar pro-American style, and according to their own laws. They are trying to do about the same thing in Ukraine now. Kudrin firmly believed in the inviolability of the American economy and wanted to completely rebuild ours on it. Agree at first glance the right idea. Hook your carriage behind the locomotive and forward.
            Here are just two things he did not take into account:
            1. Their economic models are not working in Russia. Moreover, for many reasons, ranging from the mentality to the bureaucracy and theft. I don’t speak about laws at all.
            2. He did not want to adjust Russia's GDP to the American comb. There’s nothing you can’t do. And in my opinion, it was because of these disagreements that he flew out of work.
            And now all that remains for him is that he was offended by yapping, because he wanted the best, but it turned out how ....
            1. Monster_Fat
              Monster_Fat April 29 2014 17: 11
              +14
              The fact that Kudrin is supposedly a "good economist" is a lie. He is not "good", he is just an "economist": if we omit all sorts of particulars, then his entire "economic" policy was reduced to one thing - not to give money to anyone, everyone should survive on their own, at their own expense, and let the weakest die. This little bitch is far from such a really clever person like Gerashchenko, who, together with another talent, Primakov, pulled us out of the deep ass of the crisis of 98.
              1. subbtin.725
                subbtin.725 April 30 2014 04: 16
                +1
                Kudrin, a good economist, but not in our direction. Putin, Rogozin, well done.
          4. ussr1960
            ussr1960 April 29 2014 15: 34
            -3
            Quote: Goodmen
            For 11 years (from 2000 to 2011) of its financial management of the Russian Federation, as it was a raw material power, it essentially remained

            The direction of development of Russia in the commodity economy was determined long before Kudrin, his predecessors Gaidars, Chubays, etc.

            Quote: Goodmen
            1. Kudrin increases the stabilization fund to the detriment of the development of the Russian economy

            Stab fund is a thing necessary for patching holes in collapses and crises in world economics.
            Economic development - the rise of production, the creation of competitive export products, to a greater extent does not depend on the Minister of Finance, but on the business involved in this process. Business is seeking quick profits, and investments in the development of production cannot ensure this. From here we remain a raw materials appendage.

            Quote: Goodmen
            8. Kudrin counts everything, including Russian budget money in US dollars
            9. Kudrin considers the bill banning the indication of value in foreign currency absurd


            Kudrin only smile ? The whole business counts in $. wink
            We buy everything abroad for dollars and for euros, for rubles there is no one there, nothing is being sold. What to indicate the cost of the Filosovsky question.
          5. Theophanes
            Theophanes April 29 2014 21: 33
            +10
            Kudrin is the thousands of deceased pensioners of Russia with his worries about the United States !!! This is the most vile (after Chubais) scoundrel of Russia! He did everything and is doing so that the Americans would develop and the Russians would bend. He is the conductor of the American policy of destroying RUSSIA!
            1. kuzia-roker
              kuzia-roker 2 May 2014 05: 09
              0
              Yes, put Kudrin to retire 9000 rubles and give a room in a communal apartment in the basement !!!
          6. Thompson
            Thompson April 29 2014 21: 54
            +3
            I agree! He had time to prove himself and he did it. Share! Let yourself complain! You are touchy-from the breast of the feeders tore ...
        2. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 April 29 2014 17: 51
          +6
          Gaidar also had his own opinion. So what? And Chubais still has his own opinion. And How?
        3. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 April 29 2014 19: 33
          +2
          Unfortunately, a good specialist can be a traitor.
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    5. COLUN
      COLUN April 29 2014 09: 06
      +6
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      The West has always deceived us.


      These ... partners ... have never been sincere.
      Well, what to take from them? Their entire civilization is built on the blood and bones of innocent victims.
      For some reason, they perceive our concessions as a kind of weakness, well, well ... There were many of these in the history of Russia ...
      1. tundra
        tundra April 29 2014 11: 10
        +8
        In the 45th, these were preparing the unthinkable operation. angry STALIN is not on them.
    6. Samaritan
      Samaritan April 29 2014 11: 13
      +13
      [quote = Enot-poloskun] The West has always deceived us.

      I come to the conclusion that the West (Europe and the USA) understand only the language of force, despite all their "democracy", "tolerance" and "postindustriality."

      We must resist!

      ... Or maybe it's time to step on ?! These cattle have been attacking our country for a thousand years and tens of millions of Russian people have been killed !!! Yes, every time we fought back, but each time we forgave ... Maybe enough? Maybe it's time for us to go west once!
      1. Ulus5
        Ulus5 April 29 2014 15: 54
        +3
        Quote: Samaritan
        ... Or maybe it's time to step on ?!

        And we must advance in all directions, change the economy from the Eurodollar to the ruble one, unite with the entire Slavic world (first of all), and with the whole world sympathetic to us, free ourselves from the fifth column, etc. And we also need to create hundreds, thousands of such broadcasting companies for abroad like RT.
        1. andrewvlg
          andrewvlg April 29 2014 19: 44
          +2
          Quote: Ulus5
          But it is necessary to advance in all directions, change the economy from the Eurodollar to the ruble, unite with the whole Slavic world (first of all)

          Yes! Let's unite with the Slavs: Czechs, Poles, Croats, Slovenes, Slovaks, Croats. So what if they are in NATO! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!
          "Little" Russia simply cannot survive without an alliance with its Slavic brothers.
          So win!
          And, of course, change the economy to ruble, and Kudrin to Glazyev. Total business!
      2. Theophanes
        Theophanes April 30 2014 00: 09
        +1
        Don’t touch, you won’t call! And if you get on your teeth and not be a liberal like Stalin was with regard to at least the same Poles. Beat with the same force and the same methods.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez April 30 2014 10: 25
          +1
          Quote: Theophanes
          Beat with the same force and the same methods.
          --- and sho? we will become the same as them .......
    7. Associate Professor
      Associate Professor April 29 2014 12: 35
      +6
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      No need to listen to the fifth column and Kudrin.

      Do you separate Kudrin and the fifth column?
      1. bytkeev
        bytkeev April 30 2014 13: 36
        +1
        That would be the right step ...
    8. xenod55
      xenod55 April 29 2014 13: 18
      +1
      Anticipating the situation. This is what the GDP possesses, against the Europoids who slept through Crimea, the CIA, angels and barracks. VVP said: we need to develop our own science-intensive industry, modernize the armed forces, close foreign accounts and get rid of foreign real estate, etc. And when he said, there was still blissful silence in Ukraine. That is why the chancellors and presidents "respect" him so much. And suddenly he will say: ......... (while being silent) and the Pacific Ocean will become the GREAT RUSSIAN OCEAN, with all the ensuing consequences.
      1. Goodmen
        Goodmen April 29 2014 13: 51
        +4
        Quote: xenod55
        He said GDP: we need to develop our own science-intensive industry, modernize the armed forces, close foreign accounts and get rid of foreign real estate, etc. .. And when he said, there was still blissful silence in Ukraine.


        He said, then said, and the liberals in the government saluted ...))) ... well, and merged "on the brakes" ... The main thing the people heard that the "tsar" was with him)))
        And here you don't have to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that the self-sufficient economy of the state "unties the hands" in the conduct of foreign policy ...
        1. Ulus5
          Ulus5 April 29 2014 16: 00
          +1
          Quote: Goodmen
          He said something, but the liberals in the government took the visor ...

          The time has come to change the liberal government to a truly patriotic one.
          "Which is temporary, get off.
          Your time is over "VV Mayakovsky.
          Your word is Comrade Mauser. Oh, not like that. Comrade Putin.
    9. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder April 29 2014 15: 14
      +9
      All the actions of the US and Western countries in relation to Ukraine and Russia, and this conflict itself reminds me of the story in the TV series "The Thunders". I hope everyone saw it, if not, I will remind you of the beginning, unfortunately I did not finish it to the end.

      One lonely mother has a committee for the rights of minors, insolently takes her children, under the pretext that she is poor and cannot feed them, support, even lied as if she was hitting them by the conversations of neighbors. does not let him into school. Although the mother actually loved them very much and did everything she could. Instead of leaving the poor women alone, and it is better to help by organizing a fund, or simply a one-time subsidy from the state, a million rubles, for example, she has a lot of children, about 5-6, child care workers send children to an orphanage without bothering to think at all that they were later separated into different orphanages, due to the fact that in one one place is free, in the other two, so still a baby, yes, yes, he was also taken away, he almost died on the way, and it was in winter. and the old ambulance broke down and the child got hypothermia. Mother died of grief. And the eldest, having received adulthood, began to "collect" brothers and sisters, taking out guardianship. She herself is homeless from an orphanage, she still needs to collect proof of her ability to pay. (The state - m.r.a.z.! She does not think about such problems). AND! forgot to say, the eldest son went to jail because he hit the "cop" who was taking his brothers. (they also ruined the kid's fate). And in addition, they sold (officially adopted) the baby to some family, with brothers alive, and the head of the orphanage does not worry at all, her conscience is asleep and her pocket is apparently empty. In general, I watched such a tragic story. I haven't watched the movie to the end, because like Russian Turkish TV shows, they also end in tragedy or drama. And my kind and naive soul, who reads and remembered children's fairy tales, believes in a happy ending, but how else, if there is no optimism and faith in the future, you can despair and commit suicide. So I decided for myself that that older sister gathered all the brothers and sisters, and my brother got out of prison, built a house and everyone healed happily.

      Imagine that the mother of the USSR, she died, now sister Russia collects children (CIS countries) under her wing, custody, and then the detectives of the United States and NATO are trying to rob her of her children, sell them to organs, or even think of some other evil deed, t.a. .r.and. They accuse that the mother of the children is beaten and the sister is angry, the children are being persuaded against the sister, although they are the most villains, they are the detectives, their mother, because they created them to protect, and they do evil for the sake of dough.
    10. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 29 2014 19: 02
      +4
      "West" is evil for all of Russia. for many centuries they have been trying to simply destroy us. As long as the Anglo-Saxon dynasty, their followers and theory in general exist, our people will always be in danger!
    11. Theophanes
      Theophanes April 29 2014 21: 21
      +3
      What Kudrin, what Chubais, what other neoliberals are corrupt scoundrels and bastards wanting the destruction of Russia! But hell to them in the throat bitch corrupt !!!
    12. Igool
      Igool April 30 2014 00: 38
      +8
      An official response has already been given to this.
    13. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 1 May 2014 14: 31
      0
      hi On the Maidan the Pamaranchevny neighbor was registered? Early in the morning before Gilyaki, will he wake me up on time? Does he have such a job? The lesson begins? The whole day, pensioners have fun, the crowd argue hto now in the government whether Yarosh or Yula ...... ????????
  2. Strashila
    Strashila April 29 2014 08: 04
    +36
    As Lavrov says ... an agreement with the West is not even worth the paper on which they are written ... what to say about verbal assurances.
    Name at least one contract from the era of Hunchback that the West has fulfilled ... correctly, there are none.
    1. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 2 May 2014 05: 15
      0
      Yes, in winter they need to shut off the gas and see what wakes up
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 April 29 2014 08: 11
    +5
    Well, this columnist voiced what has long been clear to us. The question is that his voice was heard in the EU and the USA.
  4. demon184
    demon184 April 29 2014 08: 14
    +7
    The strongest survives, we are losing our positions one by one for 23 years, maybe enough? Nowhere to retreat.
    1. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 2 May 2014 05: 18
      0
      Soon we will switch to China and the European Union and the United States
  5. psychologist
    psychologist April 29 2014 08: 18
    +8
    Well, except for lies and cheap show-off, our Western "partners" do not know how to throw anything!
  6. WETER
    WETER April 29 2014 08: 18
    +7
    We must bend our line. "Up to" and "no matter what".
  7. mackonya
    mackonya April 29 2014 08: 23
    +5
    I still believe that in the "West" not only political scientists and experts correctly assess the situation in Ukraine. Ordinary citizens for the most part also do not support the actions of the United States and the EU, although mostly because, both the EU and the United States have their own internal problems that need to be urgently addressed, and therefore their citizens do not understand why Ukraine is given more attention when Ukraine (the outskirts of Europe) is far away, and the problems of one's own country are "on hand".
  8. Andrey SPB
    Andrey SPB April 29 2014 08: 27
    +5
    We have something to answer both the USA and Europe, but our government does not press the necessary levers ...
    Changing the sanctions and verbal nasal to ALLIES !!!! Look at China, India, Argentina, etc. More than half of the world's population is on our side despite the convulsions of the Western "democrats" in the media and in the political arena.
    I think we will have only one sanction in the form of a bullet point for a green piece of paper !!!!!!!!!!!
    1. starochkin77
      starochkin77 April 29 2014 10: 05
      +4
      Yes, in one Kit, the population is three times more than in the entire GEYROPE combined !! - and these shit-democrats still yell about the world community (on whose behalf they supposedly yell) -HA wassat laughing
  9. Mishut37rf
    Mishut37rf April 29 2014 08: 32
    +2
    Quote: psychologist
    Well, except for lies and cheap show-off, our Western "partners" do not know how to throw anything!

    It is necessary that they do not forget that if necessary, we will have something to cast the west with. soldier
  10. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 29 2014 08: 46
    +18
    Western and Russian are two completely opposite civilizations.
    To agree, make friends - this has never been and never will be.
  11. valday
    valday April 29 2014 08: 56
    +5
    Hardly anyone hears the voice of reason and truth in the west! And not even to hear, that’s the most important thing. They have their own plans for Ukraine there.
  12. Good cat
    Good cat April 29 2014 09: 11
    +4
    These gentlemen disown their words a hundred times, just let them remember about Bismarck and about Russians who always come for their money
  13. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 29 2014 09: 29
    +3
    Quote: nstarinsky
    More language of power they are afraid of Russian politeness. Like in the Crimea ...

    Such politeness takes countries!
  14. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 29 2014 09: 35
    +4
    Unfortunately, really, there is nothing to talk with them about ... No arguments and argumentation have any effect on them. Sadly, the states won't just give up, and the states are an obstacle for our comfortable development. In this connection, the conclusion: "Carthage must be destroyed" © Alas, this is so. We are with them on the same planet. And God knows, we were not the first to start ...
    1. the villain
      the villain April 30 2014 10: 12
      +1
      Impure city - twin
      Sodom must be burned
      Call him Rome, Paris, Berlin,
      Brussels, London il Washington.
      Truth to holes is erased:
      So that evil does not creep into our souls,
      And in the world, peace reigned
      CARTHAGEN MUST BE DESTROYED !!!
  15. anfil
    anfil April 29 2014 09: 45
    +9
    Quote: Enot-poloskun
    Summing up the material of Comrade Alera, we note that the White House and the top NATO can not fool the enlightened sensible people. However, alas, the Washington propaganda, promoted by the forces of the State Department bought the media, drowns out a few voices of reason in the USA. Please note: the resource where the Alera article is published is called “Dissident Voice”.

    But do you seriously believe that this issue will be held with Russia? Do you seriously think that if you denigrate our history, our culture, our people and our leadership, we will believe that we need to live under your strict guidance? Yes, from century to century we have given you, united Europe, lyuli. Napoleon brought united Europe to Russia. Hitler brought to Russia a united Europe. They did not like it here. Why are you so stupid? Well it doesn’t work for you, relax. Do you really think to conquer our country with the help of mantras and spells? Trying to bite Russia, you clutch at a piece that is too tough for you. To frighten Russia with sanctions is such enchanting nonsense, especially against the background of the results of the Second World War. It was we who freed you from fascism. But you are only freeing us from our gas and forest.
    Who told you that you are the ultimate truth? We do not sow massacres in other countries. We do not support thugs, scumbags and terrorists. Let us already recognize that we are more civilized. Because the opposite of civilization is barbarism. If it’s unpleasant for you to recognize yourself as barbarians, then let's just admit that you have a special civilization with blackjack and gays. And pocket scumbags in other countries.
    Source: http: //molonlabe.livejournal.com/148976.html
    1. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun April 29 2014 14: 07
      0
      A strange message ... The message that you quoted, I did not write.
  16. Duelist
    Duelist April 29 2014 09: 50
    +4
    Unfortunately, the United States has created a great many UNACCESSIBLE precedents in international relations - this is just an unceasing stream of lies, unleashing wars, sponsoring terrorist organizations, and massacres. The leaders of this country do not respect universal values, the UN Charter and constantly discredit this organization. It is very important to work on the publication of revelations of the US leadership, making notes of protest at meetings of the UN Security Council.
    1. maximus235
      maximus235 April 29 2014 12: 48
      +1
      There is interesting material: a comparison of the modern politics of the USA and Germany in the 40s.
      Germany loses everything: http://goldnike-777.blogspot.ru/2012/12/blog-post_25.html
  17. Ivan Victory
    Ivan Victory April 29 2014 10: 03
    +5
    Diplomacy is a delicate thing, and we can’t pull it with a tank without looking back at anyone yet. And so I want.
    I think it is necessary to stop cooperating with the West on all issues that are not critical for us. All these human rights, PACE, NGOs, freedom of the media, etc. We are, by default, to blame. So you need to score, and clean up the country. And gradually accustom, what is happening inside Russia is its internal affair. And then translate the vector to the external. Everyone should come to terms with the idea that if Russia does something, then it will do it anyway. So it’s better to step aside or help.
  18. kare
    kare April 29 2014 10: 45
    +11
    Nice coverage from Belarus
    1. raf
      raf April 29 2014 12: 53
      +5
      Thank you and very sensible hi ! And Poland was, is and will be the eternal European prostitute with whom the Baltic states are actively taking an example!
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 29 2014 20: 29
        0
        Nice coverage from Belarus

        Competently, intelligibly and without unnecessary hysteria ............ everything is correct !!
  19. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker April 29 2014 11: 11
    +2
    mackonya

    I still think that in the "West" not only political scientists and experts correctly assess the situation in Ukraine.
    Western politicians are dolls ... Who is the puppeteer? And people both lived and live like in America, in which there are a lot of immigrants from the former USSR so in the European Union ... People whose destinies they are trying to make by a handful of not the smartest and kindest people, trying to hang citizens as much as possible on their ears .. And with which over time this heavy load of pasta, which is diligently set on hearing oranges, begins to bother ...
  20. delfinN
    delfinN April 29 2014 11: 12
    +7
    Well what can I say: a steady progressive movement from complex to simple.
  21. Lukich
    Lukich April 29 2014 11: 19
    +7
    never will mattresses be not our friends, not partners. only enemies. for them, someone else’s blood is like water. they have their own national interests everywhere. and the mass sang along. while they have a printing press, there will be no peace in the world. continuous wars and coups with their participation will be. never
  22. dimarm74
    dimarm74 April 29 2014 11: 19
    +2
    With their sanctions .. against civil servants, they only heal our elite ... Gee - gee ... - gee ... Do they really not understand
  23. grog_bm
    grog_bm April 29 2014 11: 42
    +3
    I can’t understand, but these people are printing, if the people of Europe and the USA knew about it then it would be more and more understandable, but if we write this in our press, there’s not much sense. Since we already know about this or guess, the result is more to develop relations with independent Western media. That's why Biden pounced on RT so much))))
  24. siberalt
    siberalt April 29 2014 11: 44
    +1
    It is time to change our Constitution. So we will pay tribute. It seems like the constitutional commission is working, but there is practically no information.
  25. kot007
    kot007 April 29 2014 11: 44
    +1
    NATO in the fray!
  26. blizart
    blizart April 29 2014 11: 46
    +1
    "He said, spoke, assured." Do not put salt on my wound! It was necessary to WRITE an agreement and sign !! Well, we know: What is written with a pen is not ...
  27. im-vvm
    im-vvm April 29 2014 12: 14
    +2
    More Western Journalists Cover US and NATO Double Standards
  28. Zheka Krasnoyarsk
    Zheka Krasnoyarsk April 29 2014 12: 15
    +1
    To start dictating your conditions, you need to be independent and strong. But until we restore order in the bureaucracy, this will not happen. Our corruption is not much less than Ukrainian.
  29. raf
    raf April 29 2014 12: 56
    +1
    Ha, no wonder, the whole policy of the United States and its sixes has been built for centuries and is built on deception, lies, hypocrisy and never a word of truth.
  30. anfil
    anfil April 29 2014 13: 07
    +7
    Quote: Enot-poloskun
    Unfulfilled promises made to Russia by the West and NATO have been repeatedly accompanied by insincerity, duplicity and dishonesty, Aler said. And, nevertheless, the ignorant people who are turning American politics into filth, and the media, as well as the “think tanks,” poured contempt upon Russia — as if nothing of the kind had happened.

  31. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 29 2014 13: 43
    +3
    The fact that NATO is an enemy of RUSSIA I never doubted, I think that my other compatriots have the same opinion. And they lie RUSSIA right in the eye. negative
    1. Stelth1985
      Stelth1985 April 30 2014 06: 35
      +1
      There will be only one conversation with Nata - the language of our tank and artillery guns, the bombs of our aircraft and the AK-74 and PKM fire. The war is approaching. We should have done this back in 1945.
  32. Lyton
    Lyton April 29 2014 13: 56
    +2
    We all understand that there is nothing to be surprised at, deceitful
  33. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka April 29 2014 14: 16
    +6
    “Dear NATO, are you lying about Russia or are you simply incompetent?”
    Why "or"? Definitely AND incompetent AND lies.
    Everything is clear with a lie - for that it is also a military-political organization, and where there is politics there is no place for truth.
    And the simplest facts speak of incompetence - NATO's unpreparedness for Russia's actions in Crimea, and the story of the "OSCE observers" in the Donetsk Republic.
  34. sv68
    sv68 April 29 2014 14: 42
    +4
    NATO was not, and will never be, even a normal porter, and not that Russia will offer an ally in at least some matter or any problem. Initially, the NATO block was created to destroy the USSR and now Russia, since NATO does not even plan to change the main landmark creep in front of the usa for which Russia the enemy is always constantly and forever
  35. oxotnuk86
    oxotnuk86 April 29 2014 18: 40
    +1
    Quote: blizart
    "He said, spoke, assured." Do not put salt on my wound! It was necessary to WRITE an agreement and sign !! Well, we know: What is written with a pen is not ...

    The League of Nations has unstopped the 2nd World War. UN for all but mattresses they have nat. interests. They spit on everyone. They said: a hare’s tail of 2 meters means 2 meters.
  36. tomcat117
    tomcat117 April 29 2014 20: 22
    +2
    An edifying finger directed at any occasion into the interlocutor is already beginning to irritate - a purely American trait.
  37. Theophanes
    Theophanes April 29 2014 20: 36
    +2
    Russia, wait !!! Ambassador Jeffery Paytt, a scoundrel from scumbags, has come to you !!!! A bastard is rare even in modern times! Compared to him, Himmler = an embryo, a hint of sad events. This is not even a scoundrel, not a Gestapo heir in the death camps, it is DEATH !!!! And indeed there are no honest, conscientious people among American diplomats! They are all scoundrels and murderers! !! Hold on, RUSSIA, the fifth column will start to rebel, and the Western correspondents will lie, as they are lying now. And I understand them: if you don’t lie, you won’t get a coin. And the louder you lie, the more you get. This is called freedom of the press, speech, media. Yes, any zapodny or neoliberal correspondent will forcibly rape his own children in front of TV cameras for good money! The only question is payment, and there C NN, BBC C, radio Liberty and other independents will wipe out! Glory, glory, glory to the underworld media and neoliberal Russian journalists! The Americans will pay for everything. And the rain comes for the money of the Russians!
  38. razved
    razved April 29 2014 22: 02
    -1
    THE ENLIGHTENED West should carry their word to the masses, only then it will be possible to count on changes in the Western public and there will be hope for change.
  39. Militia
    Militia April 29 2014 23: 02
    0
    Quote: Theophanes
    Kudrin is the thousands of deceased pensioners of Russia with his worries about the United States !!! This is the most vile (after Chubais) scoundrel of Russia! He did everything and is doing so that the Americans would develop and the Russians would bend. He is the conductor of the American policy of destroying RUSSIA!


    For this they hung him and ranks:

    In 2003, according to a survey conducted among investors and bankers by the British edition of Emerging Markets, Kudrin was named the best finance minister of the year in Central and Eastern Europe. The publication noted that with his ability to steer the country's economy on the right path, Kudrin made a significant contribution to the economic successes Russia has achieved in recent years: stable economic growth of 5% per year, budget surplus, and attraction of large investors.
    Honorary Citizen of the Tomsk Region (September 2, 2004) - for his great personal contribution to the socio-economic development of the Tomsk Region, the preparation and conduct of the celebration of the 400th anniversary of the city of Tomsk
    In 2004, A. Kudrin was named British Minister of Finance of the Year by The Banker, becoming the winner in two categories: World Finance Minister of the Year and European Minister of Finance of the Year.
    In 2006, the British newspaper Emerging markets named Alexei Kudrin the best finance minister among European countries with an emerging market.
    In 2010, the British magazine Euromoney named Alexei Kudrin the best finance minister of the year. According to the magazine’s publisher Padraik Fallon, Kudrin was awarded first and foremost for “having overcome tangible political pressure, he created the Reserve Fund, which allowed Russia to overcome the global financial crisis in a much better shape than experts expected.” An accompanying article in Euromoney said that Kudrin was rightly called a top-level manager and rightly praised for his "commitment to tax and budget reform in Russia, Russia's desire to join the World Trade Organization and continued progress in privatization."
    Honorary Professor, Higher School of Economics
    Honorary Doctor of the Northern (Arctic) Federal University named after M.V. Lomonosova
    Honorary Professor of Economics at St. Petersburg State University.
    Honorary Professor of Buryat State University.
    Honorary Professor of Dagestan State University (April 28, 2011).
  40. Russian 77
    Russian 77 April 29 2014 23: 26
    +1
    The Americans are losing and time is working against them very strongly, GDP is well done and we will still see the collapse of the dollar. loose change, only here the Americans did not guess - we will not change, we simply divide it east and west. And there we will see how the east will live and who needs the west (then maybe the zapadents will understand that nobody needs them) then we will help the west (because who else but us), and indeed the Slavs must somehow unite everyone ...
    The mattresses understand the war, but somewhere far away, it’s a pity they themselves do not really fight. But from the Maidan (meaning ya turch avak .. wise men are shorter) do they really not understand that, apart from the court, nothing awaits them and the curse for centuries from their own and others
  41. Victor-M
    Victor-M April 30 2014 00: 08
    +3
    Kiev huh ... huh ... well, the junta is constantly repeating the mantra written by Washington about the presence of Russian intelligence agents on the territory of New Russia. So downs, you don’t need to flatter yourself, because if they were there, then most likely the militia of the Southeast would have been in Kiev, and you are in the USA, as lecturers in some sort of shabby college. laughing
    1. stroporez
      stroporez April 30 2014 10: 32
      0
      sho you want --------- stupid, s .......
  42. krot
    krot April 30 2014 00: 53
    0
    Zion protocols in action) they need to be studied in schools ..
  43. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv April 30 2014 09: 34
    +2
    The US and NATO are a generator of problems for Russia.
    As long as the USA exists as it is, Russia cannot live in peace.
    All our half measures in relation to the USA only help them improve their subversive activities in relation to Russia.

    they will NEVER let us live in peace! No, not just calm.
    Russia is in constant tension waiting for war tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ...
    conclusion - the United States should change its essence or, simply, disappear as a state !!!

    Nuclear war is not an option.
    No one will enjoy the Victory. belay

    There is another way - to destroy the United States from within. good
    This can be done together with China, ruining the US economy, collapsing the dollar.

    Russia withdrew its main dollar assets from the blow.
    It remains to promise China something to compensate for their dollar losses.
    And then he will sacrifice his dollar reserves. drinks

    There are a lot of options for compensating dollar losses.
    - The division of world raw materials.
    - Something to spit from their stocks.
    - The division of markets.

    I see that this can be discussed at the next meeting of our leadership and the leadership of China.
    Therefore, this delegation is headed personally by V.V. Putin drinks
  44. yulka2980
    yulka2980 April 30 2014 10: 09
    0
    Well, at least some of the Americans turned out to be adequate, otherwise it seemed to me that there were some idiots there. Actually, in the USA, politics are like choosing patients in ward No. 6! wassat
    1. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 2 May 2014 05: 28
      0
      so America is a large English colony in which they collected the whole zbrod and criminals from England who were dumped from justice in their country
  45. stroporez
    stroporez April 30 2014 11: 06
    0
    in the "civilized world" no one can hide sho Mordor is copied from the USSR, and they are supposedly all elves in white ........ okay ... from me hotts to see how the regiments of orcs bend this elfostan ... ..
    1. the villain
      the villain April 30 2014 11: 24
      -1
      And the elves are loaded onto ships and plowing away for a long time, because their time is up ...
      1. stroporez
        stroporez April 30 2014 11: 45
        0
        Quote: Villain
        And the elves are loaded onto ships and plowing away for a long time, because their time is up ...
        ---it would be good.........
  46. scorpionship
    scorpionship April 30 2014 11: 32
    0
    The West in general, and Germany and the United States in particular, were once allies for us, but they were always enemies, and it is not clear why (although very clear) they became friends. (US has only 2 allies, army and navy). Gorbachev must be declared an enemy of the people, with all the ensuing consequences.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez April 30 2014 12: 44
      0
      Quote: scorpionship
      Gorbachev must be declared an enemy of the people, with all the ensuing consequences.
      - Elders speak sho is not possible .........
  47. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 30 2014 12: 43
    0
    Quote: scorpionship
    The West in general, and Germany and the United States in particular, were once allies for us, but they were always enemies, and it is not clear why (although very clear) they became friends. (US has only 2 allies, army and navy). Gorbachev must be declared an enemy of the people, with all the ensuing consequences.


    Here in this comment, Andrei, I completely agree with you one hundred percent and I write under every word. I looked at all your comments, depressing the impression that you weren’t bored with a head about anything, it seems that you are obsessed with hatred of the government . It's time to reconsider your views, get out of the past, because they say it right, who holds onto the past, misses the future.
  48. capex1
    capex1 April 30 2014 15: 24
    +2
    This NATE must be reminded who stomped its land in 1945 and whose tanks on a pedestal in Germany !!! This hysterical NATA, as I understand it, is not able to set priorities correctly - well, this Ukrainian auto party with banderlogs will pass, with what eyes it will look at us (we still have to cooperate with us, but only I think on our terms). And this warlike cry regarding the strengthening of cooperation in the bloc itself - is it possible that the girls Rasmunser thinks to fight with us, this girl is not afraid that her J.O.P.U. they will tear both the British flag and the German flag and all the flags of this block.
    1. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 2 May 2014 05: 33
      0
      according to the picture (only goats have been answered so far))
  49. leo44
    leo44 April 30 2014 15: 50
    0
    Karl stole corals from Klara, and Klara stole the clarinet from Karl.
  50. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 30 2014 18: 54
    0
    You know, I’m trying to publish my articles here, but either the site is buggy, or other people's articles aren’t needed, something doesn’t work, they disappear somewhere. Therefore, I give the links:
    The first is about the true interests of the United States in Ukraine:
    http://flammaros.ru/articles/135863
    The second is about double standards of American politics:
    http://flammaros.ru/articles/135992