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OSCE monitors want to exchange for the supporters of federalization

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According to the RIA News", “People's mayor” Slavyanskaya Vyacheslav Ponomarev said that they still consider OSCE military observers prisoners of war and want to exchange them for supporters of federalization detained by Kiev.

Earlier, Vyacheslav Ponomarev reported that an OSCE mission bus was detained at one of the roadblocks, in which there were 11 members of the military mission - three Ukrainians and eight Europeans. According to Ponomarev, they were suspected of espionage. He also noted that the mission driver, a Ukrainian citizen, had already been released.

“In the hands of the junta is a number of our associates, our comrades. If there is an opportunity, then we are ready for an exchange, ”the“ people's mayor ”stressed. He said that recently SBU officers detained his deputy Igor Perepechayenko.

It is worth noting that Ponomaer refused to comment further on the negotiations with OSCE representatives, which took place on Sunday. It is only known that after them the militia agreed to release one detainee - a Swedish officer Yngwie Thomas Johanson due to "health problems" and "to demonstrate good intentions and the agreement capacity of the militias".
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  1. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 28 2014 11: 47
    +15
    The partisans from Slavyansk even have a Maxim machine gun. And probably Babai will be behind him.
    Well now, the Bandera fascists definitely will not pass wink
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 28 2014 11: 51
      +4
      and 20 American mercenaries, let's immediately change to Obama ... well, 10 x (five could not stand the interrogation, and five requested Russian citizenship) ...
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 28 2014 11: 58
        +10
        If it were the people of the OSCE, they would have been released long ago, and only these provocateurs would be exchanged.
        1. WKS
          WKS April 28 2014 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: ZU-23
          If it were the people of the OSCE, they would have been released long ago, and only these provocateurs would be exchanged.

          And if they do not change them to settle them on the barricades at the checkpoints, let the American mercenaries storm them.
        2. Stalnov I.P.
          Stalnov I.P. April 28 2014 14: 26
          +2
          These are professional intelligence agents, so you need to make specific demands, withdraw troops from Kiev, release all political prisoners, hold referenda, etc., rotten Western democracy will unscrew the hands of the Maidan to return their people, or otherwise the governments of some European countries will have to file retired, democracy however, dug a hole themselves and got caught.
        3. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa April 28 2014 15: 39
          +1
          With all desire, they do not pull military experts (I watched an interview with them), it’s civilians, but the fact that they were entrusted with a job that the pros were supposed to do, it may well be in the chaos that is happening.
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      3. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko April 28 2014 12: 05
        +1
        In Kiev, the CIA commands. If it were the US military, then maybe it was exchanged. And so, since the military let them join the ranks of self-defense and take a feasible part in ensuring the security of the people of Donbass, it is not for nothing that they rushed from Europe to Slavyansk.
        1. Orc-xnumx
          Orc-xnumx April 28 2014 14: 03
          +1
          These, .lya, will win !!!
          1. xenod55
            xenod55 April 28 2014 14: 24
            +1
            Similarly, those are still warriors with diabetes and other sores. As the media reported: one was released due to illness, the rest were relocated to rooms with air conditioning. Here you have the western warriors, only in offices the tanks on the tables rearrange.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 28 2014 11: 53
      +9
      Quote: ambiorix
      The partisans from Slavyansk even have a Maxim machine gun.

      I’ve hidden some kind of grandfather from the former NKVD officers, just in case. I introduced myself.
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 April 28 2014 12: 02
      +3
      Quote: ambiorix
      The partisans from Slavyansk even have a Maxim machine gun.


      Are there tanks on the pedestals? You can use them, if on the go.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 28 2014 12: 32
        +4
        Quote: mamont5
        Are there tanks on the pedestals? You can use them, if on the go.

        Here's what I thought. In special mines, where weapons are stored, these are weapons of past wars. "A three-line rifle on a canvas belt, and cartridges with that head that are terrible for any armor." I am quoting Tvardovsky. So, a bullet from a three-line is much more lethal than a bullet from an intermediate cartridge. Laughter with laughter, and a self-defense squad, armed with three-rulers, at a distance of 400 meters from shelters, can completely knock the advancing platoon out of cover. Bulletproof vests, kevlar helmets and even armored personnel carriers will not help. You just have to shoot to kill, without choosing vulnerable spots
        1. xenod55
          xenod55 April 28 2014 14: 28
          +1
          And even the marines sent by the Obama will not help, because many of them are wearing glasses. The bullet in the parapet is bam, the dust in the glasses and the marine cannot see zgi.
      2. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh April 28 2014 20: 34
        +1
        There is a region.
    4. Validator
      Validator April 28 2014 12: 02
      +16
      Offset Ponamarev junta tollit
      1. Vyalik
        Vyalik April 28 2014 12: 38
        +2
        Thanks for the joke. Even the wife laughed, now she ran to the neighbor to tell. +++
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 28 2014 12: 41
        +1
        Quote: Validator
        Offset Ponamarev junta tollit

        Only 6 tanks and 9 BRDM-2 (8 captured, 1 burned down on the march), and, well, one TZM (transponder-loading MLRS vehicle).
      3. autotechnik
        autotechnik April 28 2014 13: 02
        +1
        and this is just the beginning))))), Here Americans look and also go to our side)))
      4. COLUN
        COLUN April 28 2014 13: 17
        +2
        Well, actually 2 MiG-29 and An-2 aircraft ...
      5. razved
        razved April 28 2014 22: 12
        0
        That really amused from the heart. Thank!!!! A huge plus.
    5. from punk
      from punk April 28 2014 12: 06
      +2
      Quote: ambiorix
      The partisans from Slavyansk even have a Maxim machine gun. And probably Babai will be behind him.
      Well now, the Bandera fascists definitely will not pass

      Chapaevsky !!! in times were !!! and let's take it with us and what if it comes in handy? laughing
    6. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 28 2014 12: 34
      +5
      There were two namesake friends,
      And both call Maxims.
      There was one - an intelligent machine gunner.
      (Meet Maxim mine!)
      And the other - the machine gun was easel
      The nickname is also "maxim" ....
    7. igordok
      igordok April 28 2014 13: 09
      +1
      Quote: ambiorix
      The partisans from Slavyansk even have a Maxim machine gun. And probably Babai will be behind him.
      Well now, the Bandera fascists definitely will not pass

      On VO to help recently there was an article - "The difficult craft of the" machine operator "- http://topwar.ru/45400-specnazovcu-na-zametku-trudnoe-remeslo-stanochnika.html soldier
    8. xenod55
      xenod55 April 28 2014 14: 20
      +1
      A lot of weapons in the fields (gardens and kitchen gardens) of Ukraine are buried of all times and peoples.
  2. BAT
    BAT April 28 2014 11: 48
    +6
    And it is right. To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. Although the Kiev junta does not look like wolves in general. A pack of shabby jackals. howling black hyena. and attackers only a pack on one ...
    1. Hans51
      Hans51 April 28 2014 11: 52
      +5
      Quote: sichevik
      And it is right. To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. Although the Kiev junta does not look like wolves in general. A pack of shabby jackals. howling black hyena. and attackers only a pack on one ...
      1. navara399
        navara399 April 28 2014 12: 59
        +2
        Rather, they can be called hyenas ...
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    3. alexng
      alexng April 28 2014 12: 33
      +3
      Quote: sichevik
      Although the Kiev junta does not look like wolves in general. A pack of shabby jackals. howling black hyena. and attackers only a pack on one ...


      And Obama himself, like a jackal, runs around the world and in a squeaky voice hysterics: - "Akella missed! Akella missed! ..." Behaves like a bazaar woman with her sanctions. Completely grinded.
  3. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 April 28 2014 11: 48
    +2
    A competent approach to solving problems is the key to success.
  4. Name
    Name April 28 2014 11: 51
    0
    IMHO. Hold until the election! hi So it will be ... feel
  5. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor April 28 2014 11: 52
    +3
    in war all means are good, nothing to add
  6. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 28 2014 11: 53
    +5
    Vyacheslav Ponomarev is right - the Kiev junta has declared war and is taking hostages. Only exchange. The militias have fewer opportunities than the junta. There is simply no choice to rescue your comrades
    1. kush62
      kush62 April 28 2014 13: 12
      0
      The only difference is how the prisoners are kept. This has already been provided with condition, and the defenders of their land have already been muzzled for sure, the Bandera executioners
  7. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 28 2014 11: 53
    +3
    It is dangerous to negotiate with the Kiev junta !! can simply substitute or not go for an exchange! More precisely, the junta now has a reason for an active phase in the release of the hostages and their owners on this subject will stir up a wide PR campaign !!
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 28 2014 11: 59
      +1
      Quote: rasputin17
      It is dangerous to negotiate with the Kiev junta !! can simply substitute or not go for an exchange! More precisely, the junta now has a reason for an active phase in the release of the hostages and their owners on this subject will stir up a wide PR campaign !!


      I think that while in Sloviansk these "OSCE military observers", about whom the OSCE mission in Ukraine knew nothing and at first disowned, there will be no active phase.
      Another issue is that Russia is forced to demand their release.
      1. xenod55
        xenod55 April 28 2014 14: 38
        0
        Russia is "concerned" about the detention of NATO military observers and "asks" to release them. But expressing concern and asking does not mean demanding. And why should Russia demand. The self-defense forces of Donbas are subjects of another state, located on their territory. This, the type of demand, can only want obamka, which the whole world considers its own. And Russia respects the will of the people and the sovereignty of the state.
  8. sledge
    sledge April 28 2014 11: 56
    +1
    Exchange one observer for all detained supporters of federalization. Keep the rest until the end of the referendum
  9. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z April 28 2014 11: 57
    +1
    Of course you need to change. You can’t leave your own in trouble. And those that were caught should write down all the data, so that later they could be blacklisted and not allowed to go to these areas or to Ukraine in general!
  10. mig31
    mig31 April 28 2014 11: 57
    +1
    Still amers to catch more, it would be possible to put all of America with cancer ....
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 28 2014 12: 04
      0
      Quote: mig31
      Still amers to catch more, it would be possible to put all of America with cancer ....


      Obama must be asked. Let him send more of his to replenish the exchange fund. smile
  11. Baloo
    Baloo April 28 2014 11: 59
    +1
    laughing They are visiting, though ... an uninvited guest am worse than a liberalist.
  12. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 28 2014 11: 59
    +1
    When God forbid everything will work out, I would very much like that such Ponomarev would not be forgotten, not wiped.
    After all, such people, in the words of the Bible, are the SALT OF THE EARTH.
  13. Same lech
    Same lech April 28 2014 12: 02
    0
    Still amers to catch more, it would be possible to deliver all of America with cancer ..

    Of course, this will work out in the cinema, but in reality it’s not so simple, and you don’t think that the United States or NATO can make an attempt to force the release of OSCE employees (I assume that among them there are full-time intelligence officers from NATO countries) by NATO SPECIAL SERVICES FORCES with the support of KIEV.

    In any case, Europeans crawl into a mess that doesn’t promise them anything good.
  14. Grenz
    Grenz April 28 2014 12: 07
    +4
    He has already noted that, apparently, targeted special operations are being conducted to neutralize resistance leaders on the eve of the referendum and elections. An example is the last capture of an SBU group.
    Consequently:
    1. It is necessary to strengthen the protection of their commanders and political leaders. Stalin: "No man - no problem."
    2. Donetsk "special forces" to sharpen on such actions. Not to sit on the defensive - to wait for the assault - is a defeat, but to conduct deep reconnaissance and grab the gaping junta. Indiscriminately, then we'll figure it out. You can then change one of ours for a bunch (bunch) of banderlog.
    3. Strengthen the collection of revealing material, video recording of provocative actions. Do not be ashamed somewhere and play along. The junta does this all the time.
    4. And to understand the main thing, the junta, led by the United States, is not concerned with morality. You should take the imposed rules of the game and water the reptiles in their own ways.
  15. DPN
    DPN April 28 2014 12: 07
    +1
    It should be so, do not give Uyabyv + th, just talk to them like that. Do not hell flattery, if you are not invited.
  16. Stavros
    Stavros April 28 2014 12: 09
    +1
    Grandchildren arrived at the places of military glory of their grandfathers, and all the same parsley. laughing
  17. Gloria45
    Gloria45 April 28 2014 12: 13
    +3

    press conference. NATO officers arrived in Donetsk
  18. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 28 2014 12: 13
    0
    Yes, however, the reception is accurately traced. It is a pity the grandchildren at school history lessons skipped.
    Quote: Stavros
    Grandchildren arrived at the places of military glory of their grandfathers, and all the same parsley.
  19. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 28 2014 12: 23
    +1
    Absolutely pragmatic approach.
  20. Green
    Green April 28 2014 12: 24
    +2
    The right decision, but not exchange, but to let everyone go.
  21. Jamuqa
    Jamuqa April 28 2014 12: 31
    0
    why are they in civilian? Did they go to barbecue?
  22. individual
    individual April 28 2014 12: 35
    +4
    It is impossible to credit Kiev - Moscow will receive all the money.
    No politics, just economics.
    In December, Russia lent Ukraine $ 3 billion through a special financial instrument known as the Eurobond.
    These tools are very tricky.
    In our case, the conditions are as follows: if the Ukrainian external debt reaches 60%, then Ukraine will be prohibited from applying for other loans. The external debt of Kiev surpassed 63% and if there is a daredevil who will give Ukraine money, then any proceeds will go directly to the Treasury of Russia.
    The most interesting thing is that the Royal Court of Great Britain will see that Ukraine paid us in full, up to the last cent.
    Russia also knows what sanctions are!
    1. 97110
      97110 April 28 2014 12: 52
      +1
      I do not really believe in the possibility of London jurisdiction to collect debts in favor of the Russian Federation. Who is the debtor? Illegitimate EI Government? We ourselves do not recognize them. I doubt, even after your post, that this debt is more expensive than 7 cents per dollar.
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    3. COLUN
      COLUN April 28 2014 13: 27
      0
      Quote: individ
      if there is a daredevil who will give Ukraine money, then any proceeds will go directly to the Treasury of Russia.


      That is why not to see the junta any money !!!
  23. mackonya
    mackonya April 28 2014 12: 39
    +1
    Of course, this is the right move, there is no other way to summon their people's deputies, but since they took the OSCE observers hostage, they will now definitely brand them with terrorists. Although the Donetsk Republic is a de facto independent republic and no one has invited observers.
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    2. 97110
      97110 April 28 2014 12: 53
      0
      And before "now" what were they branded with?
    3. od7
      od7 April 28 2014 13: 20
      +1
      De facto? And you were not mistaken? Does the Donetsk Republic have a constitution? Is there a president? Is there a government? Or maybe ALL residents of the Donetsk region support the few who have seized state institutions?
  24. 1812 1945
    1812 1945 April 28 2014 13: 18
    +1
    It is only known that after them the militia agreed to release one detainee - the Swedish officer Yngwie Thomas Johanson because of "health problems" and "in order to demonstrate the good intentions and agreement of the militias."------------------------------------------
    ----
    In vain! In the eyes of Bandera, this is a sign of self-doubt, weakness. What act of humanism can we talk about with the beast ?! Does he have diabetes? And who condemned the inhabitants of the same Slavyansk - diabetics - to torment by stopping the supply of insulin? This "patient" - first of all - for Gubarev should be changed ...
    1. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 April 28 2014 14: 18
      0
      Sergey Adamovich (Kovalev), instead of giving me "cons", you'd better go to Kharkov! There, a crowd of five thousand armed thugs, under the roof of the cops, attacked three hundred people who tried to protect their rights at a PEACEFUL (!) Rally, to protect the rights of a HUMAN.
  25. Roshchin
    Roshchin April 28 2014 13: 19
    0
    And after the press conference, the comrades of the imported military were taken to political studies. The topic of our political study: "Daz ist Stalingrad"
  26. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 28 2014 13: 22
    0
    Exchange scouts for captured by the junta patriots in the proportion of 1 to 10.
  27. Turk
    Turk April 28 2014 13: 29
    0
    ShturmKGB
    and 20 American mercenaries, let's immediately change to Obama ... well, 10 x (five could not stand the interrogation, and five requested Russian citizenship) ...

    They could not stand the interrogations. Will leave free.
  28. sv68
    sv68 April 28 2014 18: 22
    0
    and it’s necessary to do so, only exchange and some kind of gestures of goodwill, because among the people captured by Kiev there may also be sick people, but Kiev simply will not let them go
  29. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 28 2014 19: 29
    0
    The right decision on the exchange. It is necessary to stand on this. And according to the principle: in the morning ours - in the evening yours. And since this is from the OSCE, more needs to be demanded for each of their heads.
  30. Trinity
    Trinity April 29 2014 02: 42
    0
    The detained "observers" are all Euriks, and the huntik follow the instructions of the amers, and here it is not known what decision the Americans will make, change or not change. Americans are playing their game and they do not care about the Eureka, and their citizens. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that it is more profitable for amers not to change prisoners for as long as possible, and thus they will still have a reason to accuse the southeast and Russia of inhumanity and bloodthirstiness towards "peaceful" observers. And thus they will justify the actions of the juntik to clean up the region by force. Even if Russia is in favor of the exchange and Ponomarev agrees to an immediate exchange, but the puppets do not have their say and look into the mouth of the amers, and will do as the big daddy orders.