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The attack on weapons depots under Slavic reflected



On Saturday, April 26, near the Ukrainian Slavyansk, unidentified people in camouflage fired at a checkpoint located in the immediate vicinity of one of the warehouses weapons and ammunition. According to the preliminary and not yet confirmed information, only one militia managed to survive, the rest died. According to eyewitnesses, the shooting was conducted from the American M-16 assault rifles.

The shelling was confirmed by a spokesman for the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic: "Indeed, the attack was made on a roadblock located directly near the Volodarsky mine." According to him, it was there that the fighters of the Ukrainian National Guard were disembarked from a helicopter.

The militia managed to repel the attack, killing one of the attackers and taking another prisoner, ITAR-TASS. At the moment, to the checkpoint, which was attacked, locals are pulling up to protect it from new attacks. It is known that a huge number of weapons and ammunition are stored in the salt workings of the Volodarsky mine.
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  1. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 27 2014 06: 37
    +22
    M-16? Looks like Mercenary Blues.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 27 2014 06: 43
      +11
      Quote: Tatarus
      According to eyewitnesses, the firing was carried out from an American M-16 assault rifle.

      In Ukraine, there are samples of weapons created on the basis of M16 and produced in small batches, so ...
      1. Horde
        Horde April 27 2014 10: 09
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        In Ukraine, there are samples of weapons created on the basis of M16 and produced in small batches, so


        at least you don’t lie to yourself now all of Ukraine A PASSING YARD can be made at least m1, at least leopards ...
        1. lukke
          lukke April 27 2014 22: 37
          +3
          Quote: svp67

          In Ukraine, there are samples of weapons created on the basis of M16 and produced in small batches, so


          at least you don’t lie to yourself now all of Ukraine A PASSING YARD can be made at least m1, at least leopards ...

          He said everything correctly, the Ukrainian company Zbroyar makes hunting carbines from American components, including the M16 and much more. The conduct of automatic fire, the truth is excluded from them. Also similar crap (M16) is made under license by the Germans, Turks, and we, the Orsis company, but it really makes its barrel for this rifle - according to its technology
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    2. mamont5
      mamont5 April 27 2014 07: 04
      +10
      Quote: Tatarus
      M-16? Looks like Mercenary Blues.


      Yes, it seems they already wrote that Croatian mercenaries previously participated. And now I’ve read that in Georgia they are recruiting mercenaries to Ukraine.
      "According to Izvestia, the former head of the personal security of ex-President Zviad Gamsakhurdia Gocha Bahia, hiding in Finland, has organized a recruitment of volunteers to participate in hostilities against the pro-Russian forces on the territory of Ukraine. the number of local nationalists.

      According to Izvestia's interlocutors, the recruitment of volunteers is funded through the Georgian NGO Free Zone and the United National Movement (UNM) party, which was in power during the presidency of Mikhail Saakashvili. "
      http://izvestia.ru/news/569977
      1. asar
        asar April 27 2014 15: 42
        +1
        There is enough such "shit" everywhere! Foreign Legion as an example!
    3. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 10
      +6
      MEN - why is this warehouse still not privatized ????
      For home museums so to speak !!!!
      In memory of grandfathers !!!!! am
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  2. Silencernt
    Silencernt April 27 2014 06: 43
    +12
    Damn here in the pictures (and in the photo in this article in particular) I constantly pay attention to how the maydanut hold their weapons. In reality, it is the Americans who hold such weapons mainly, I have never seen that ours hold such weapons.
    1. GRune
      GRune April 27 2014 06: 57
      +12
      So their Americans officially trained before the Maidan, many articles about this were even with photos.
    2. from punk
      from punk April 27 2014 08: 44
      +12
      Quote: SilencerNT
      Damn here in the pictures (and in the photo in this article in particular) I constantly pay attention to how the maydanut hold their weapons. In reality, it is the Americans who hold such weapons mainly, I have never seen that ours hold such weapons.
      Well, this is not an indicator of belonging. Here is a Russian soldier. The attitude of a weapon in a certain way implies features of training
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 April 27 2014 13: 35
        +23
        From 8 my minutes, about holding the machine in a similar way.
        1. razved
          razved April 27 2014 19: 16
          +5
          The boy then, apparently, served in a specialist ... hi
        2. Com T-64a
          Com T-64a April 27 2014 21: 51
          +1
          Good educational program! There would be more such "for dummies" ...
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 April 27 2014 22: 09
            0
            Quote: Com. T-64a
            A good educational program! There would be more such "for dummies" ..

            Вот весь "букварь",по этой ссылке http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B0
            %D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0
            1. Com T-64a
              Com T-64a April 28 2014 01: 00
              +1
              Thank you, dear! yes
  3. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 27 2014 06: 48
    +27
    It is known that in the mine workings of the Volodarsky mine a huge amount of weapons and ammunition is stored.


    So what are the militias waiting for? would disassemble the weapon. The time of polite people has passed. It's time to fight back the junta.
  4. saag
    saag April 27 2014 06: 49
    +15
    but they say let Russia throw up arms, they have these weapons there like shoe polish in a shoe factory, and with such a resource they can do it, put mortars for themselves, and then no one will climb :-)
  5. Lukich
    Lukich April 27 2014 06: 53
    +12
    It is known that in the mine workings of the Volodarsky mine a huge amount of weapons and ammunition is stored.

    strange, but they complain that the weapons are not enough ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 07: 06
      +10
      Quote: Lukich
      strange, and they complain that there are not enough weapons

      This, too, is not clear to me in whose hands the warehouses are now. If the militias have it, then they can arm the entire city. And there are not only machine guns.
      1. Magadan
        Magadan April 27 2014 08: 46
        +51
        NO ONE to arm, Alexander. And this bitter truth will have to be recognized. 99% of Donbass residents turned out to be hatskrayniki
        1. Fevrrr
          Fevrrr April 27 2014 10: 51
          +6
          Quote: Magadan
          NO ONE to arm, Alexander. And this bitter truth will have to be recognized. 99% of Donbass residents turned out to be hatskrayniki

          According to this logic, Crimea were haskaskrynikami. I agree that there was no military operation in the junta in Crimea and there were not so many deaths. But then tell me, why are unarmed residents of Crimea storming units of the Armed Forces? The militia should have weapons for those who know its strength and proper use. The deterrent to the junta is not the militia’s weapon, but the presence of the Russian Armed Forces at the border. In general, do not make hasty conclusions. Handing out weapons is the last argument of the DPR against the junta.
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak April 27 2014 11: 20
            +7
            My relatives live in the Kharkov region. When the butch began in Kiev and Yanyk fled, we told them guys, come and attach. They dismissed us like annoying flies. Now they are asking us to sit on Skype on certain days of the week. Do you think that they kindled with great brotherly love for us? I think it’s harmful to think like that. Just Kiev is far away, and now they are shooting at a distance of slightly less than 100 km from them. Slavyansk and Kramatorsk are not as far away as Kiev.
        2. Validator
          Validator April 27 2014 11: 56
          +5
          Quote: Magadan
          NO ONE to arm, Alexander. And this bitter truth will have to be recognized. 99% of Donbass residents turned out to be hatskrayniki

          I disagree. The information is contradictory, but for the purposes that are now set, the available approximately 2000 armed militias are quite enough. But when the "grandiose nix" begins - then these warehouses will come in handy. And we are just like the day before
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 April 27 2014 13: 10
            +3
            Quote: Validator
            I disagree. The information is contradictory, but for the purposes that are now set, the available approximately 2000 armed militias are quite enough. But when the "grandiose nix" begins - then these warehouses will come in handy. And we are just like the day before

            At night, the people gathered after the attack wanted to seize the warehouses themselves (some had a desire). We talked with the commander of the unit, but so far calmed down. I think one more attack and then they will definitely take ...
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 27 2014 11: 27
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And there are not only machines.

        On the site, there is an article claiming that these are large stockpiles of weapons from the First and Second World Wars. I believe that there is no ammunition for that weapon. And what is, it is most likely unsuitable for use.
        http://topwar.ru/45682-boy-pod-ukrainskim-soledarom-siloviki-pohitili-opolchenca
        .html
        1. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko April 27 2014 20: 49
          +1
          nonsense !!! then yes and now ammunition in zinc could be stored in the earth for 100 years!
          1. lukke
            lukke April 27 2014 22: 46
            +1
            and there’s crap like the 7.62x54R cartridge, which goes for: Maxim machine gun, Mosin rifle, SVT, SVD, PKM
      3. Validator
        Validator April 27 2014 11: 53
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Lukich
        strange, and they complain that there are not enough weapons

        This, too, is not clear to me in whose hands the warehouses are now. If the militias have it, then they can arm the entire city. And there are not only machine guns.

        Army guards warehouses. The militia set up a checkpoint so that nothing would be taken out. Not that there was an opportunity to quickly occupy them with a big mess.
      4. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 12
        +2
        And with the German M-42 - I think it will show little to helicopters and armored personnel carriers either !!!!
    2. krpmlws
      krpmlws April 27 2014 08: 29
      +2
      Quote: Lukich
      It is known that in the mine workings of the Volodarsky mine a huge amount of weapons and ammunition is stored.

      strange, but they complain that the weapons are not enough ....

      Apparently the warehouses are not under the control of the people's army, for some reason.
    3. Magadan
      Magadan April 27 2014 08: 45
      +22
      The fact is that these are weapons of the 2 World War. I don’t really get it, can I still use it? And How?

      And another suspicion is that the Militia has NO more human resources. Everyone decided to sit behind them. NO even stupidly ten thousandth demonstrations. Everyone is either cowardly or waiting for weather from the sea, that is, our Russian soldiers, so that they do everything.
      There Crimeans openly write to them "take to the streets" Donbassians answer that he is of course for Russia and against the Natsiks, but they work to feed their families.
      "Well, work then and further" - the answer of Sevastopoltsev
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas April 27 2014 09: 55
        -3
        Quote: Magadan
        The fact is that these are weapons of the 2 World War. I don’t really get it, can I still use it? And How?

        No way. The "militias" do not have access to weapons. warehouses under the protection of the army or explosives. No "volunteer" in his right mind will storm the warehouses. Yes, and not sane too. The sentry will not shoot into the air ...
        Quote: Magadan
        And another suspicion is that the Militia has NO more human resources.

        And there never was. See Donetsk. Millionth city, RSA captured a man of one hundred and two hundred with the support of a maximum of a thousand people. Captured because the police openly spit. Every day they began to play music and encourage people to join. So what? And nothing, now they are sitting there as on another planet, and the city lives its own life. Twenty people sit in Mariupol in the office of the Regional State Administration and scream from the door that they are real power, but all their power extends beyond the cabinet they seized ... How much is the population of Mariupol? Where are at least ten thousand who came out in support of the captured cabinet?
        After the Crimea, Russia is in a state of crazy euphoria at the same time that we are given the wishful thinking that everyone imagines it as real ... All Russians want a war and for the opportunity to see the Russian flag over Kiev on May 9, they are ready to forgive Putin literally everything ... even gasoline at 50 rubles ...
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 April 27 2014 10: 08
          +17
          And forgive, I would forgive a lot for the return of the lost territories and the restoration of the empire ...
        2. Anisim1977
          Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 16
          +5
          You can not capture - you need to bribe ensigns !!!!
          Or barter - for a machine gun and zinc cartridges, a box of gorilka shmat fat for example ...
          There are many peaceful options - to steal, then singe for example.
        3. jjj
          jjj April 27 2014 15: 53
          +1
          Quote: Nayhas
          And there never was. See Donetsk. Millionth city, regional state administration captured a hundred or two hundred people with the support of a maximum of a thousand people.

          The representative of the resistance in the Donbass called the total number of all forces, including peaceful protesters and women - up to 50 thousand people
          1. Nayhas
            Nayhas April 27 2014 17: 44
            +1
            Quote: jjj
            The representative of the resistance in the Donbass called the total number of all forces, including peaceful protesters and women - up to 50 thousand people

            You can say half a million, but they don’t say this because it’s obvious nonsense. Even the miners raised more of their people but ... In such cases, it is customary to divide by at least ten ...
            But the most important thing is that if Russian troops are brought in, everything will remain the same, the same majority who are indifferent to the slogans of federalization will miss the calls of the authorities to defend their homeland ...
        4. Zaslavsky-S
          Zaslavsky-S April 27 2014 18: 26
          0
          YOU ARE DRIVING !!!
        5. Denis 60 rus
          Denis 60 rus April 28 2014 07: 43
          0
          there isn’t any euphoria, there is joy and we don’t want to forgive and we are not going to forgive everything, but the people in Ukraine are confused about the campaign, they don’t know what to do, in general, they haven’t taken a bite ...
        6. Denis 60 rus
          Denis 60 rus April 28 2014 07: 43
          0
          there isn’t any euphoria, there is joy and we don’t want to forgive and we are not going to forgive everything, but the people in Ukraine are confused about the campaign, they don’t know what to do, in general, they haven’t taken a bite ...
        7. alauda1038
          alauda1038 April 28 2014 09: 20
          0
          HERE Rather, it is NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED ON THE TERRITORIES OCCUPIED BY THE GERMANS ALSO ALL OSTRUSES WERE THE GERMANS HAVE NOT SHOWN THEIR CIVILIZATION THEN, AND BEGINS UNTIL THEY SHORT
      2. lonshakovpetr
        lonshakovpetr April 27 2014 15: 13
        +1
        Under a lying stone, water does not flow .... like this here! stop
      3. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus April 27 2014 16: 07
        +2
        So they are fighting right, for a peaceful life, de facto it is there.
      4. Com T-64a
        Com T-64a April 27 2014 21: 58
        +1
        Oh, uncle, don’t tell me, the second world ... Mosinka + sight = 500 - 700 m aimed fire! RPD is also a good machine, but at least PPS and PPSh are suitable for the masses (the fire density of the squad with PPSh is wild!) But there aren’t these masses!
  6. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 27 2014 06: 57
    +4
    And what if there are warehouses with weapons then why not take it !? It’s necessary to fend off the juntists somehow!
  7. tnship2
    tnship2 April 27 2014 06: 59
    +2
    Do you have ammunition for this weapon? Surely everything is stored separately.
  8. andj61
    andj61 April 27 2014 07: 05
    +9
    Look what you found on the network:
    SLAVYANSK, April 27 - RIA Novosti.

    The landing of the Ukrainian army, having destroyed the checkpoint of militias and capturing a prisoner, retreated from the battlefield near Soledar, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the scene.
    In the evening, near the roadblock, which blocked the road from the route Kharkiv - Rostov to the Volodarsky mine (10 kilometers from Soledar, 40 kilometers from Slavyansk), paratroopers landed from a helicopter. According to eyewitnesses, they were 15 people. Since Soviet times, large stocks of weapons from the First and Second World Wars have been stored at the mine. According to experts, there could be from 1 to 3 millions of weapons. The task of the roadblock was not to allow the National Guard to the warehouses.
    At the checkpoint at this moment four people were on duty, all without weapons. Having wounded one militiaman, the attackers took two prisoners. However, one of them on the way to the helicopter managed to escape and escape. The other two militia also fled.
    To the place of the battle, miners began to flock from the surrounding mines, many of which support the idea of ​​federalizing Ukraine. The miners armed themselves with shovels, crowbars and pipes. Seeing the miners, the attackers preferred to dive back into the helicopter and fly away. They fired several shots into the air.
    Now about a hundred local residents have gathered at the battlefield, there are calls to restore the checkpoint in order to prevent Ukrainian soldiers and employees of the National Guard from entering the mine. Data on the dead has not yet been reported.

    http://ria.ru/world/20140427/1005614405.html
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 27 2014 08: 19
      +7
      Quote: andj61
      At that moment, four people were on duty at the checkpoint, all without weapons

      Strange as that. It’s worthless from such a block post if there are people without weapons. After all, it is clear as day that armed thugs will come to them.
      1. xan
        xan April 27 2014 23: 16
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Strange as that. It’s worthless from such a block post if there are people without weapons. After all, it is clear as day that armed thugs will come to them.

        In fact of the matter! You read such Old and you start to think that not everything is so simple. There is no complete impartial information explaining everything. But there is a positive point - in Donbass there are no mass protests against the referendum
    2. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 19
      +5
      What a dope unarmed roadblocks !!!!! am
      Yes, even next to huge warehouses with weapons ???
      This guard - where does he live? Where does he buy bread and a vodka ??
      I have something Khokhla (Russian in Ukraine) hi teach military tricks?
  9. saag
    saag April 27 2014 07: 14
    +20
    Weapons warehouses are guarded without weapons, this is some kind of, probably in Ukraine this is possible
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 27 2014 07: 37
      +2
      Yes Damn, Seven nannies have a child without, without supervision ...
    2. Galan
      Galan April 27 2014 08: 17
      +6
      Warehouses are guarded by the Ukrainian army. Local residents established a block post on the road to prevent the export of weapons for the needs of the nat. guard. And it’s not so easy to take it, it’s not land warehouses, but mine workings, the descent into which can be blocked when trying to storm.
      1. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 22
        +2
        The territory I think is huge - you can stupidly drop it on top and use an excavator, I think there are other ventilation shafts and other abandoned passages. For the old ones, ask the Mals, who always check all the tricky paths, and everything will be fine. hi
        1. jjj
          jjj April 27 2014 15: 56
          +1
          Who better than miners knows how to move through mines
  10. Same lech
    Same lech April 27 2014 07: 14
    +13
    The no-fly zone over the SOUTH-EAST will deprive the suddenness of the right-wingers and Bandera.
  11. Arkan
    Arkan April 27 2014 07: 19
    +6
    According to eyewitnesses, the firing was carried out from an American M-16 assault rifle.


    The sounds of the shots of the Kalashnikov and the M-16 are different, just not to be confused. PMCs of the Urkain oligarchs in action.
  12. Sergg
    Sergg April 27 2014 07: 33
    +6
    It's time to hand out weapons to the militias resistance should be armed, as in Ukraine the civil war is going on - let's recognize this fact: the civil war in Ukraine has begun.
  13. Grach710
    Grach710 April 27 2014 07: 55
    +3
    How unprofessional this is.
  14. Belarus
    Belarus April 27 2014 08: 02
    +1
    To be afraid that weapons would not be handed out to the rebellious people, here they are trying to attack the checkpoint for strength.
    Thank God that they managed to repulse the attack and take one dead alive. If the militias died then it is a pity. But how everyone knows that the war is without casualties.
    1. DNR
      DNR April 27 2014 09: 38
      0
      But mra.z alive vainly taken. Military secrets from him are most likely useless, and after interrogation they will all the same be released. And he will fly again with weapons.
      Only foreign mercenaries should be captured - and shown on TV from all over Ukraine and the world.
      1. vlum
        vlum April 27 2014 10: 38
        0
        If they had such weapons, then it was necessary to take one of them. It is necessary to identify at least whose it will be - the versions are different and confirmation will be required. Where will he go? A captive mercenary must be taken out of the conflict zone so that they could not recapture a living witness.
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya April 27 2014 08: 13
    +4
    What kind of rulers and army, what do you want from Baptist preachers and "moneybags". Both of them are essentially thieves and swindlers. They never differed in their courage, and their mercenaries are not much different from the owners. In general, money does not become heroes, for example, the US Marines: remember how they skedaddle from Ethiopia, Lebanon and other places where they got in the snout, and here it is not the Papuans, but miners. These are not banana republics for them, here they themselves will be bent so much that And the guys from the self-defense of Donbass just need to blow up this mine (fortunately, there is an abundance of explosives in the mines) and the temptations of the right-wing woodcutters and other PMCs will disappear by themselves!
  16. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko April 27 2014 08: 16
    +4
    According to preliminary and not yet confirmed information, only one militia managed to survive, the rest died.

    The militias managed to repulse the attack by killing one of the attackers and capturing the other, ITAR-TASS reports.

    So what happened is who defended from whom, who died, and who were taken prisoner. Unclear. Biased contradictory nonsense ...
    1. vlum
      vlum April 27 2014 10: 47
      +2
      Yes, the tactics are there. that everything is happening.

      Sentinels are at the posts. They risk, of course, but they are worth it. Unlearned. They probably don't have any sense of weapons. Within the reach of one or several posts there is already a real mobile combat group or several groups. In the presence of a signal from the patrol post, they move to fire contact and then: "we managed to repel the attack, killing one of the attackers and capturing the other."
  17. from punk
    from punk April 27 2014 08: 35
    +3
    more and more it becomes clear that nothing is clear
  18. sv68
    sv68 April 27 2014 08: 58
    +2
    the inhabitants of Slavyansk, yes, take these warehouses under your control and arm yourself properly. Well, not small children should remember that good should always be with fists, and in your case with weapons
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 27 2014 12: 25
      0
      If the guard is not divided by hi good - and it is possible to scorch or smoke a smoke terribly !!!!
      How to start the evacuation - so everyone else to hand over a bottle of vodka and a bag of bacon will also wish the best of luck.
  19. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 27 2014 09: 01
    +1
    Comrades! What the hell is going on there, they don’t have weapons cry, then huge warehouses immediately appear. That is, WWII weapons refuse to fire today, I don’t believe it, or the population is afraid to arm, how are they going to defend themselves. Hope for Russia, but Do not be a fool yourself, take up arms, protect your home.
  20. Horn
    Horn April 27 2014 09: 04
    +8
    "The farther, the weirder." Unarmed militias captured the armed paratroopers ?! This makes no sense. Why would the Ukrainians need weapons then? They are as scary as the morning after beer and vodka ...
  21. Turk
    Turk April 27 2014 09: 18
    +5
    Quote: Horn
    "The farther, the weirder." Unarmed militias captured the armed paratroopers ?! This makes no sense. Why would the Ukrainians need weapons then? They are as scary as the morning after beer and vodka ...

    They can do it anyway ...
  22. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 27 2014 09: 25
    +1
    The war continues, the junta is not going to stop its military operation, destroying the Russian people. We are waiting for our active help to the Russians in Ukraine.
  23. gispanec
    gispanec April 27 2014 09: 45
    +6
    I HAVE A FEELING THAT the whole southeast adheres to the rule until I go into the hut of my boots - I do not get up .... there’s no one to really fight there ... they will merge before blooming ..... aww. ..miners?!!....
    1. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus April 27 2014 16: 25
      +1
      Quote: gispanec
      I HAVE A FEELING THAT the whole southeast adheres to the rule until I go into the hut of my boots - I do not get up .... there’s no one to really fight there ... they will merge before blooming ..... aww. ..miners?!!....

      Conducting the planned referendum will be impossible with "nix." So it's good that it is relatively quiet there. IMHO "nix" will increase with the approach of the date of the planned referendum
  24. sop.ov
    sop.ov April 27 2014 10: 02
    +1
    [i] On Saturday, April 26, near Ukrainian Slavyansk, unidentified people in camouflage fired at a checkpoint located in the immediate vicinity of one of the weapons and ammunition depots. According to preliminary and not yet confirmed information, only one militia managed to survive, the rest died. According to eyewitnesses, the shooting was carried out from the American M-16 assault rifles.
    The shelling was confirmed by a spokesman for the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic: "Indeed, the attack was made on a roadblock located directly near the Volodarsky mine." According to him, it was there that the fighters of the Ukrainian National Guard were disembarked from a helicopter.
    The militia managed to repel the attack, killing one of the attackers and taking another prisoner, ITAR-TASS. At the moment, to the checkpoint, which was attacked, locals are pulling up to protect it from new attacks. It is known that a huge number of weapons and ammunition are stored in the salt workings of the Volodarsky mine.

    Complete nonsense! lol In Slavyansk, salt is, of course, mined, but not by a mine method, but by evaporation. Naturally, there are no such mines in near Slavyansk.
    What the author is talking about is here
    http://wikimapia.org/2198233/ru/Соляная-шахта-им-Володарского
  25. saag
    saag April 27 2014 10: 02
    0
    Quote: gispanec
    .so merge before blooming

    history repeats itself, it was not necessary to call them the Donetsk Republic, it did not last very long
  26. sop.ov
    sop.ov April 27 2014 10: 10
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Lukich
    strange, and they complain that there are not enough weapons

    This, too, is not clear to me in whose hands the warehouses are now. If the militias have it, then they can arm the entire city. And there are not only machine guns.

    These warehouses are military installations. There is an agreement with the military stationed in the territory of Donbass - no one is trying to capture them, they are not firing back. So be it better.
  27. Palych9999
    Palych9999 April 27 2014 10: 23
    +1
    Most of all, all these "operations" in the South-East are reminiscent of the game of "Cossacks-robbers", both on the other side and on this one.
    1. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus April 27 2014 16: 28
      +1
      nobody wants to die everyone wants to live and win
  28. boozer
    boozer April 27 2014 11: 12
    +3
    Quote: Tatarus
    M-16? Looks like Mercenary Blues.


    Special units of the SBU were armed with Z-15 carbines (USA - АR15), all components made in the USA. This is a full-blooded automatic rifle. I don't remember the plant, something like "Zboyard" ....
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 April 27 2014 11: 32
      0
      Quote: boozer
      Special units of the SBU armed with carbines Z-15


      It is understandable, here is a photo where these trunks are released.

      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 April 27 2014 11: 37
        +2
        The Vyatsko-Polyansky Arms Plant has also set up production of such "products".



      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 27 2014 12: 25
        0
        Quote: wanderer_032
        Here is a photo where these trunks are released.

        It seems that it is enough to hook and damage a flat spring that is to the left and above the trigger and the device will lose its ability to hold the magazine.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 27 2014 13: 39
      +1
      Quote: boozer
      Special units of the SBU armed with carbines Z-15 (USA - AR15)
      Carabiner Z-15 (USA - AR15) ..... components manufactured in the USA
      Model Z-15 Basic
      Type Semi-automatic rifle, gas vent
      Caliber and pitch rifling 223 Rem. (1/9 ")
      Barrel barrel length and outline RRA 16 “Light Weight Mid length
      Barrel material Armory CRMO 4130 barrel steel, burnished.
      Chrome plated barrel bore
      Metal Store (10-Charger)
      Upper / Lower Forged / Anodized Aluminum Alloy
      USM Single Stage
      Configuration Telescopic 6-position stock, base forend (green). The handle is green.
  29. nika08
    nika08 April 27 2014 11: 31
    +4
    Why not arm yourself from these warehouses ??? Or will the people remain unarmed at the checkpoints? Why can't you make forays into the enemy's location at night and take "tongue" or shoot this scum?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 27 2014 12: 29
      0
      Yes, because there are weapons of the first and second world wars. Heavily outdated.
      1. Pharao7766
        Pharao7766 April 27 2014 16: 39
        +1
        If it can shoot, then what is the problem?
        Even if the entire warehouse is clogged with trilinears alone, there will be plenty of hemorrhoids in pravoseks (and not only).
        And the second - there is already more than one video in which the self-defense forces show the MG42 machine guns confiscated from the right-wing sector militants and daviche from captured SBUshnikov (or modern MG3 alteration, of course, but vryatli).
        Also, it seems like the machine is not the first freshness ....
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 27 2014 21: 00
        +2
        listen you! ........banned and deleted by moderator Apollo ! In World War II, there was an old0 BUT a very lethal rifle, I am going to take Mosin 1896/31 g, and I supposedly showed these scumbags from Maidan Self-Defense what it is capable of!
  30. Selevc
    Selevc April 27 2014 11: 38
    +2
    A whole generation of new political leaders appears in the east of Ukraine ... Having left the people, they will probably be able to somehow change the life of the Southeast of the country for the better ... And the old generation of politicians is completely mired in hypocrisy, lies and theft ... The people no longer believe in the orange - explicit puppets of the West, or the blue-and-white regions - megawars-privatizers - for a long time in the East or in the West of the country ...
  31. Just
    Just April 27 2014 11: 40
    +1
    In Ukraine, they make Zbroyar - a clone of American assault rifles. By the way, they are still sold in Russia.
  32. KAVS
    KAVS April 27 2014 12: 18
    0
    Well done boys!!!! Do not lose ground !!!
  33. Alexey
    Alexey April 27 2014 12: 20
    +5
    Quote: Hedgehog
    that this is a large stockpile of weapons during the First and Second World Wars. I believe that there is no ammunition for that weapon. And what is, it is most likely unsuitable for use.

    Do not forget - the three-line cartridge is still in service and is produced by most cartridge plants of the former USSR (hunters know)
    Mosinoks (three-rulers), despite their oakiness, have an effective firing range of at least 2 times the American M16 (223 remington) and the more so Kalash, which in the open flat terrain can have a very serious plus. By the way, some snipers still use them with modern optics.
    PPSh - has its serious problems since each machine was equipped with its own shops (round) and from another machine shops did not fit. With horns, the truth is simpler. But there are still many problems (everyone knows, I will not climb). But PPSh have a very high rate of fire (3 times higher than the usual 600). There is no (almost) recoil of the barrel. I don’t remember the source, but I read that in bursts from distances of about 20m my head was cut off. At a distance of up to 200m, the density of fire can create a crowbar.
    PPS - no complaints at all.
    So that it’s still quite possible to fight (IMHO. Maybe the specialists will correct me)
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 27 2014 12: 37
      0
      Quote: AlexeyCh
      Do not forget

      I do remember. This is not about the fact that somewhere it is, but about the presence in the very warehouse, which is a museum warehouse.
      Do not forget that it is necessary to purchase or receive as a gift, and after that to deliver to the destination. From our conversations, what you are looking for in Slavyansk will not appear. Do you agree?
    2. Selevc
      Selevc April 27 2014 21: 40
      +2
      Quote: AlexeyCh
      Mosinoks (three-rulers), despite their oakiness, have an effective firing range of at least 2 times the American M16 (223 remington)

      Not the oaks but the ingenious design of the rifle itself ... The Mosin rifle was very easy to operate - you could teach her to shoot at least a woman, even an old man, even a teenager in just a few hours ... At the same time, the rifle was very easy and quick to clean and not afraid dirt, water and frost ...
      At the same time, a very solid aiming range even without additional sights and decent lethal force ... A platoon of experienced fighters armed with rifles in an open area could very well defend themselves against the enemy forces that were many times superior - and in terms of cartridge efficiency, the famous machine gun Maxim nervously smokes aside ...
      It is not for nothing that the various three-line clones have been used by almost all countries of the world for more than 100 years for so long ...
    3. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko April 27 2014 21: 44
      +1
      but there’s nothing to correct! everything is true, and PPSh is a meat grinder, according to the testimony of the fighter Vermachta!
  34. kelevra
    kelevra April 27 2014 12: 25
    +1
    How can you destroy everyone at the checkpoint?! The checkpoint was too close to the forest, that they were simply covered with fire from inconspicuous positions, or the militias didn’t have weapons ?! There are former soldiers in Afghanistan, veterans of Afghanistan, why they won’t do everything right! the time that the roadblocks are holding would have been made of concrete blocks of bunkers long ago!
  35. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 27 2014 12: 25
    +1
    So I’m just goofing off with extreme Ukrainian news. There are rulers, that people. It is clearly seen that the rulers of the people came out. It’s understandable with Kiev, everything is tied up on the amers, nothing is done without their order. But what are the Easterners waiting for? Really our troops? But figs to them. For in five years, we, torn up on the rise of the eastern lands, will be called the invaders.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 27 2014 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      occupiers and call him names.

      That's what they call it already. In a number of places in Ukraine for a long time. Moreover, I will say that among the Ukrainians of the Kharkiv region there is a lot of hostility towards us, "mos.kalyam". I would not be surprised if this exists among Ukrainians in the more southern regions of Ukraine.
  36. saag
    saag April 27 2014 12: 35
    0
    Quote: Zomanus
    Really our troops?

    It looks like
  37. ludoger
    ludoger April 27 2014 12: 42
    +8
    On Volodark, as far as I know, two stands. One salt mine, another, next to the warehouse. I won’t tell you how, but the guards had three machine guns and a pair of snipers, not counting machine gunners. Security BB. It is believed that recently mobilized. Even if you break through the defense, there is a power outage system. Those. the crate will remain below. The power supply resumes, they say, remotely. From Slavyansk, or from where else.
    The checkpoints are really only for observation (((((. But there is no way with monitoring and communication equipment. The location is incorrect. The Mayorsky settlement is actually in the middle of the village! On both sides of the house is a private sector, behind, meters in a hundred-gas gas station! A barricade of tires. The contingent sometimes hangs around ... From 6.00 a.m. to 10.00 a.m.-12.00 p.m. there are often three people left. But in the evening there are also forty snouts.
    Therefore, for this whole movement, I scored for about a week. Babos is coming from Russia! Just do not see who and what ... Nobody organizes / equips / trains. So there is no faith to anyone. Gathered in a small group. We look, listen, how we can prepare ... but to fly in vain, a lot of mind is not necessary.
  38. komel
    komel April 27 2014 14: 15
    +4
    Overview of what happened that night: Turntables arrived from where the landing party landed to capture a warehouse with wartime weapons. Two militia posts stood in their way. The first passed, the second received resistance from 50 local people armed with sticks. A clash broke out in which the militia, following the example of the Maidan, began to burn tires. The landing progress has stopped. After that, local people with pitchforks and shovels, ready to sweep the assault force and disassemble the turntables for spare parts, came from the nearest villages and sat like honey bees. The landing party quickly realized how quickly the situation was changing, having decided to wind off the operation, they captured the resistance activist and retired to the base.
    1. Vanko
      Vanko April 27 2014 16: 02
      0
      Well, this is a more or less sane version. It turns out that they went to the warehouses, ran into a checkpoint, lost the suddenness factor, realized that they had burned, and dumped them until better times.
      Now they’ll poke around and tomorrow they’ll go quietly from the other side.
  39. uzer 13
    uzer 13 April 27 2014 16: 21
    +6
    This warehouse was shown one night at Tv.Patronov there is all kinds of weapons there, too. Degtyarev’s machine gun may have become outdated, but this didn’t stop being a machine gun. There they are, in the preservative.
    1. Signaller
      Signaller April 27 2014 18: 33
      +2
      Cartridges from the forties are already a matter of bullshit, but they can kill. Definitely. Only preemption to do, by age.
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  40. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets April 27 2014 16: 33
    0
    I agree that there are very few real actions ...
  41. Signaller
    Signaller April 27 2014 18: 31
    +8
    Here we are all at a loss. Why Slavyansk ????? And that’s why. Weapons of the 40s lying in salt mines. Do not give this Bendery this weapon. I personally did not know. If I knew, I made it unequivocal .. Do not give. by any means. So everything falls into place. Why Slavyansk-why everything else. Right-wingers are eager for this weapon. It is not shot, No shell and barrel photos. In short, get and walk the flaw. No, things are not done like that. Therefore, the guys are standing. Honor and praise be to them.
  42. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 27 2014 21: 32
    0
    pravosexialists need to be shot from these weapons, but the Kalash sighting front sight more pravosexialists will be unhappy.
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  44. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 27 2014 21: 56
    0
    I agree, too.
  45. gammipapa
    gammipapa April 27 2014 22: 23
    +2
    A good site and sensible people, how many times I am convinced. They immediately see everything at the root - what demon is the warehouse with 3 million units of weapons that self-defense has not yet seized? A strange sort of self-defense without weapons is sitting at checkpoints and waiting for the weather by the sea. Come help the brothers, we want to Russia.
    And the conclusions are also correct - everyone cares, and not for the right and not for the left, they say I'm a man from the couch, I don’t care.
    And the Turks are building the camps next to it because of a misunderstanding, they have nothing more to do and they have not delivered gas chambers there. Maybe it will carry.
  46. Pesok
    Pesok April 27 2014 22: 32
    +1
    I already thought about creating a military unit (for example, a reconnaissance unit) to help brothers in Ukraine. The problem is money. Equip one fighter - about 50
  47. Bare16RUS
    Bare16RUS April 28 2014 00: 34
    +2
    I don’t understand what. The militias have a warehouse in front of their nose, albeit old, but weapons with ammunition. Degtyarev machine guns, PPSh is that a stick? At 50-100m the accuracy is stunning. Why so far only 150 militias are armed?
  48. Grach710
    Grach710 April 28 2014 10: 51
    0
    They say that in these warehouses PPSh, maxims, guns, mosins and Mausers. They are guarded by miners with stakes, it is not clear that they will not tear apart warehouses. It’s better than PPSh than bare hands, the weapons are old, but reliable, it’s not clear who they are guarding, from themselves that whether. am