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Militias Slavyansk ready to discuss the fate of the OSCE delegation with Russia

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On the eve it became known that the militiamen of Slavyansk detained the mission of OSCE military observers, whom they suspected of spying "under the cover of" an international mission, reports RIA News.


Militias Slavyansk ready to discuss the fate of the OSCE delegation with Russia


The militiamen of Slavyansk expressed their readiness to discuss the fate of the OSCE military observers detained by them with official representatives of Russia, commander of the national militia Igor Strelkov said at a briefing on Saturday.

“We do not trust the Ukrainian side,” said Strelkov.

On the eve it became known that the militiamen of Slavyansk detained the mission of OSCE military observers, whom they suspected of spying "under the cover" of an international mission.

The military cards of Slavyansk with marked roadblocks, ammunition, military tokens were found in the detainees, another militia representative said on Saturday morning. Also, the journalists were presented the documents of the detainees in the names of John Christensen (Denmark), Krzyshtof Kobelski (Poland), Axel Schneider (Germany), Yngwie Thomas Johanson (Sweden), in which OSCE military observers were called "officers." In total, the delegation had 12 people - four Ukrainians, four Germans, a Swede, a Dane, a Pole and a Czech.

“The delegation also had an officer in the Ukrainian General Staff, Colonel Igor Turansky. We consider the detainees prisoners of war and will change them to our prisoners under martial law, in particular to Pavel Gubarev (proclaimed by the“ people's governor ”of the Donetsk region at the rally in Donetsk 1 in March - ed. ) ", - said at the morning briefing the head of the provisional government of the" Donetsk People's Republic "Denis Pushilin. He assured journalists that the detainees are being treated well.

As the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Saturday, the Russian side is taking measures to resolve the situation that has arisen in connection with the detention of military inspectors of a number of OSCE states under Slavyansky within the framework of existing capabilities.
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  1. Quantum
    Quantum April 27 2014 06: 29
    +12
    Russia needs to more actively help militias with weapons, food and other
    humanitarian set. People do not work, food and medicine are limited. Captured saboteurs and scouts must be exchanged for
    captured activists of the eastern regions.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 April 27 2014 06: 49
      +19
      Quote: Quantum
      Russia needs to more actively help militias with weapons, food and other
      Already going wassat
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 07: 09
      +12
      Quote: Quantum
      Russia needs to more actively help militias with weapons, food and other
      humanitarian recruitment

      Below is an article about repelling an attack on warehouses. So we are talking about a fairly large arsenal. If it is in the hands of the militias, then they definitely do not need weapons.
      But the captured Germans just do not let go. To everyone on the chest to make a tattoo "STALINGRAD", that would restore the memory. Once is not enough, it was not enough.
      1. W1950
        W1950 April 27 2014 07: 19
        +1
        I read in the news, there are weapons from the Second World War.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 07: 43
          +3
          Quote: W1950
          there are weapons from the second world war.

          The weapons of the Second World War are also not rubbish. In the hands of a good PPSh fighter will not yield to Kalash.
      2. RUS96
        RUS96 April 27 2014 08: 07
        +1
        Humanely like a tattoo. Cut a cross on the forehead.
    3. Duelist
      Duelist April 27 2014 07: 31
      +1
      It is necessary to demand the implementation of the Geneva accords! Then it is possible to release spies with NATO maps and move to phased disarmament.
    4. Andrey57
      Andrey57 April 27 2014 09: 33
      +4
      The OSCE representative has already disowned this "delegation", saying that they acted at their own risk and did not carry out any OSCE mission - hence the siskins got stuck in full, thinking that several NATO members would be indulgence from the militias. Well done militias, they work competently!
    5. protopop avvakum
      protopop avvakum April 27 2014 09: 37
      +1
      you can agree, they pass the trailer with the help of Slavyansk, one detainee will be released for him
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 27 2014 06: 30
    +5
    Yeah. Russia remains the last and only bastion of conscience
  3. Name
    Name April 27 2014 06: 31
    +15
    Welcome all! The NATO "citizens" detained in Slavyansk found themselves in an interesting situation - "sightseeing" on the territory occupied (according to the inviting party) by terrorists, you must agree, this is a crazy idea belay . But it will be more interesting to hear the words from the officials of Germany, Denmark and Poland ... laughing
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 27 2014 06: 49
      +1
      It reminded me of x / f "Passport", when an old Caucasian man took foreigners hostage, while laying a table for them, as the Caucasian hospitality demands! The "hostages" probably thought they were at a resort! Every day Shashlik, Homemade wine, grapes .....
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    3. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 27 2014 06: 57
      +8
      Again allotments cut suki. Forgot what they received in 1941 birch crosses instead of Iron .. Rotten, fascist evil
      Put the bullet in the forehead,
      Spawn of humanity
      We put together a strong coffin ....
  4. Grbear
    Grbear April 27 2014 06: 45
    +6
    In this situation, the main thing is to correctly formalize the detention, so that there are no "excuses". And press it, and Russia will help. The West must be forced to "get out" at the official level - this is a completely different story.
  5. mig31
    mig31 April 27 2014 06: 45
    +3
    Russian assistance to the militias should, at a minimum, be adequate to the fact that the Americans and the West junta are helping ...
  6. individual
    individual April 27 2014 06: 47
    +4
    All this NATO camarilla knew where it was going.
    Ukraine has become their accountable territory, but not Donbass.
    This is the difference between sovereignty - Ukraine was sold to the United States, and Yu \ B defends its independence.
  7. svp67
    svp67 April 27 2014 06: 51
    +6
    four germans
    The Bundeswehr has already recognized them as its military personnel ...
    We consider detainees prisoners of war and, according to the laws of war, we will change them to our prisoners, in particular to Pavel Gubarev
    - reasonable, very reasonable ...
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 April 27 2014 06: 52
    +8
    "We consider the detainees prisoners of war and, according to the laws of wartime, we will change them for our prisoners, in particular for Pavel Gubarev (proclaimed by the" people's governor "of the Donetsk region at a rally in Donetsk on March 1 - ed.)," The head of the interim government said at a morning briefing "Donetsk People's Republic" Denis Pushilin. "

    And it is right. In war as in war. Here are more candidates for the exchange. So with the world a thread and typed.
    "The militia captured three Alpha officers
    That night, three employees of the Alpha special forces were brought to the headquarters of the "separatists" and "terrorists" who occupied the former building of the SBU of the city of Slavyansk. They were caught in the village of Gorlovka, during their next reconnaissance and sabotage mission of the Security Service of Ukraine.
    This morning, during a joint statement by the commander of the rebel army Igor Strelkov and member of the Presidium of the Donetsk Republic Denis Pushilin, it was announced that now all the SBU employees met on the territory of the republic will be used as a bargaining chip to free colleagues. Judging by the daily detentions of the "Kiev" agents - the bill has already exceeded one hundred, counterintelligence in self-defense works quite productively. In addition, after the victory of the Maidan in the management of “A”, the SBU of Ukraine passed mass layoffs, and the staff was replenished almost by announcements posted on lampposts. The result was a little predictable.
    This time, a fairly large fish was caught in the net: Major Sergei Potemsky, Captain Evgeny Varinsky and Lieutenant Colonel Rostislav Kiyashko. They looked bad - they resisted during the arrest. Therefore, all the special services were rewound with bloody tape and bandages. Weapons, and each of them had a Glock pistol with a cartridge in the chamber, they did not have time to use. "
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26225.7/3107781/
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 07: 12
      +1
      I watched on TV these three SBUshnikov what they had with their eyes. All blindfolds in blood and do not understand whether they are intact or not. Now the Americans will start to twist this record through their channels and say that the terrorists gouged out the eyes of these civilians.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 27 2014 07: 40
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I watched on TV these three SBUshnikov, what they have with their eyes. All blindfolds in the blood and do not understand whether they are intact or not.

        Yes, much is not clear ... The Commander does not have a head - a solid bruise and blood from the nose, the second has dried blood in his eyes, although it seems to me that it flows from the dissected left armor, the third seems to be normal ... relative.

        I was more interested in weapons - MG again ... Special forces are such weapons, why not a PC?
        1. Turkir
          Turkir April 27 2014 08: 44
          +5
          Yes, much is not clear ... The Commander does not have a head - a solid bruise and blood from the nose, the second has dried blood in his eyes, although it seems to me that it flows from the dissected left armor, the third seems to be normal ... relative.

          Who resisted, he received it. They didn’t come to distribute cakes.
          They went to the store! In how.
          The most interesting thing is that they do not know (as I believed them) who gave them the order, and now it turns out nobody knows them, even those who sent them.
          This trinity, chatting with the prepared nonsense, does not understand that their owners sold them and now they are just bandits, with forged SBU documents.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 27 2014 09: 04
            +1
            Quote: Turkir
            This trinity, chatting with the prepared nonsense, does not understand that their owners sold them and now they are just bandits, with forged SBU documents.
            And why with fake, they look like real ...
            Quote: Turkir
            Who resisted, he received it. They didn’t come to distribute cakes.

            Yes, as they say, there is no doubt ...
            Quote: Turkir
            They went to the store! In how.
            Well, how, according to the old Russian tradition - the case must be "injected", especially since there are just THREE of them. Quite possibly, they were "encrypted" under the alcoholics, even the last pants were drunk, it did not work ...
      2. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka April 27 2014 14: 39
        0
        another thing is interesting: WHO did so finish off 3 trained saboteurs? random militias? oh ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 27 2014 19: 37
          0
          Quote: DanSabaka
          another thing is interesting: WHO did so finish off 3 trained saboteurs? random militias? oh ...

          But you will not believe it - indeed "random militias", they are not to blame for the fact that the West moved to the East again, but the militias with good training, since these are people in the reserve, but WHERE they were trained and when and where they honed it ... RIDDLE
      3. Trinity
        Trinity April 28 2014 00: 04
        0
        Alexander Romanov / I agree with you, but it seems to me that if everything was normal with the eyes, they would still come up with something about bullying them. For example, that they are being raped, since they are sitting without trousers, or that they have torn out their nails and now they tied their hands behind their back so that the press would not see.
  9. Humpty
    Humpty April 27 2014 06: 55
    +3
    NATO warriors and other Swedes took off a little. They did not teach them that the Russians have a grandmother Spiridonovna.
  10. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 27 2014 07: 07
    +3
    That's right, what is caught! Although, for some reason, it seems to me that these three employees do not mean anything to the junta, they have no value, so there may not be an exchange!
  11. Arkan
    Arkan April 27 2014 07: 08
    +3

    The militiamen of Slavyansk expressed their readiness to discuss the fate of the OSCE military observers detained by them with official representatives of Russia, commander of the national militia Igor Strelkov said at a briefing on Saturday.


    The correct decision, let the Americans try to brush aside the Russian Foreign Ministry. These so-called "observers" counted on the authority of the OSCE, but now they are prisoners of war. The exchange for Gubarev is natural.
  12. andj61
    andj61 April 27 2014 07: 25
    +4
    Actually an interesting circus. These people are not related to the OSCE, as stated by representatives of the OSCE mission, then they are OSCE military observers. What are these military observers about whom the OSCE mission in Ukraine does not know anything ?!
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 27 2014 07: 40
    +1
    Are they like cartridges, "smoke" or what? How hypocritical has become the West, the habits of jackals, attack only in a crowd and only on the weak!
  14. domjoly
    domjoly April 27 2014 08: 16
    +1
    These are not employees of the OSCE mission, let's name things exactly, this is a military delegation from the "OSCE countries"
  15. sv68
    sv68 April 27 2014 08: 30
    +3
    well done militia that do not yawn and catch spies. A couple of captured enemies can be exchanged for Gubarev and other detainees by Kiev militants and kept the rest locked up and used as a reserve for exchange again BUT some of the detainees just do not let go-children's humonism is now not needed
  16. siberalt
    siberalt April 27 2014 08: 39
    -1
    We argue without a subject of dispute. So far, no one has abolished Ukraine de jure. And the Donetsk republic did not even become it de facto. There are no centralized authorities and administration. What are we about? They are essentially rebels. Partisanism. What nafig a referendum if there is no proclaimed declaration of independence (at least from Ukraine)? A sluggish process is underway with the emergence of many problems in all spheres of the protesting regional economies. With such a "pace" everything can dry up. Federalization is a snag. For whom? There are no legitimate subjects of negotiations, what kind of federalization can we talk about?
  17. Turkir
    Turkir April 27 2014 08: 49
    +1
    News: Georgia has begun recruiting mercenaries for shipment to Ukraine.
  18. rocketman
    rocketman April 27 2014 09: 24
    -10%
    I read the article and comments. Fool.
    since there are already "prisoners of war", I will use weapons without hesitation. Thugs are just sitting in Slavyansk.
    1. Cutter
      Cutter April 27 2014 10: 00
      +3
      "Applied", did you manage to execute the will? Where are you greedy against the Slavic world rushing? As here already advised such "warriors" do not forget to cut down the front sight!
  19. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 27 2014 09: 33
    +3
    The decision to exchange prisoners is correct. It is necessary to return their leaders abducted by the junta.
  20. Turk
    Turk April 27 2014 09: 39
    +2
    Quote: andrei332809
    Yeah. Russia remains the last and only bastion of conscience

    And very polite!
  21. kelevra
    kelevra April 27 2014 12: 20
    +1
    That's right, Russia in this whole situation is the most productive and sensible country!
  22. razved
    razved April 27 2014 18: 50
    +1
    It is correct that they do not trust the Ukrainian side. The OSCE also cannot be trusted - let us recall Georgia and South Ossetia in 2008 - the OSCE was working, but for some reason I did not see anything "like that". And the detainees, it seems, have nothing to do with the OSCE at all, and hiding behind the organization's documents, they carried out reconnaissance in the interests of Kiev. And perhaps for planning the storming of the city.
  23. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 27 2014 21: 05
    0
    No other options, just an exchange for resistance leaders detained and held by force, do not make any concessions, a tough condition, an exchange.
  24. Trinity
    Trinity April 28 2014 00: 32
    0
    And how they had the courage to go "to see the sights", where the separatists, terrorists from the entire population of the region and the bearded special forces of the GRU from Russia, nicknamed "babai," leading these detachments. I have never seen bearded special forces. A children's excuse was invented, and most likely they did not think about a legend in case of failure, they hoped that the cover was reliable, the OSCE observers would not be checked. Self-confidence let down and not up to the assessment of the enemy, they probably thought that there were only amateurs in the militia, and the coolest and most cunning "specialists" only they. I wonder how now their governments will be justified, because this is direct interference in the affairs of another state.
  25. komel
    komel April 28 2014 00: 37
    0
    Taken in the South East.

    In Slavyansk, NATO officers detained by militia on April 25 spoke at a press conference, they are being held in decent conditions:

    “I can tell you that the local mayor is a man of honor.” They didn’t touch us. Security is provided at a high level. All European officers and translators are in good conditions. No one is sick. We are not prisoners of war, we are guests of the mayor. We don’t know when we get home. These issues are in the competence of the diplomats of our countries, and they should cooperate with Major Ponomarev.

    Taken by the Kiev Junta.

    A militia was found captured yesterday at a post near Soledar. The kidnapped activist reports that he was captured by Alpha. A 41-year-old man has a concussion, a dislocation of the hip. So Where is Pavel Guborev and how is he feeling?
    What do you think there is a difference in the treatment of detainees?

    .