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Oranges from the people of Syria

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Oranges from the people of Syria



Over the past 3 of the year in Syria, very often you can hear the words of gratitude to Russia. 2012 video footage of the year is typical, when a huge, countless crowd of Syrians greets Sergey Lavrov, who arrived on a visit to Damascus. On the walls of houses and other buildings is written in Russian "Thank you, Russia." The Syrians are grateful for several vetoes imposed by the Russian Federation in the UN Security Council on brazen Western resolutions, for humanitarian aid, for any support at the diplomatic level.

But gratitude is not limited to words. Tortured by sanctions and the terrorist war, Syria has managed to find the strength and resources to give 20 tons of oranges to Russia. Aircraft EMERCOM with fruit cargo on board went to Moscow from Latakia airport. The fragrant gifts of the fertile, warm, sun-warmed land will be sent to children living in orphanages of the Russian Federation.



Let this be a modest gratitude, but it is especially valuable at a time when the richest countries of the world impose sanctions against Russia and threaten with new punitive methods.

Throughout all the 90s, when Moscow’s foreign policy was actually made in Washington, these countries spoke beautiful words about “partnership”, “mutually beneficial cooperation”, and “friendship”. The Yeltsin leadership then vomited long-term relations with many partners in the East and in other regions of the planet, focusing only on serving before the West. But, as soon as Russia began to take at least some independent steps, all the verbal tinsel about “friendship and partnership” flew off in an instant. The West and the United States showed their true face. But those countries with which we so rashly broke up relations at that time — repeatedly, within our capabilities, Russia came to the rescue ... How could.
For example, Syria was one of the few countries that did not condemn Russia for the Chechen anti-terrorist operation, but called terrorists in the Caucasus terrorists, not “fighters for the freedom of Ichkeria”. Syria is one of the few countries that voted against the recent anti-Russian resolution at a meeting of the UN General Assembly. But after all, unprecedented pressure was exerted on states, as a result of which 58 countries that did not agree with the resolution were limited to abstaining. Under these conditions, voting against a document pushed by the West behind the ears is worth a lot. And now - Russia has received this touching solar gift from Syria ...

But at a time when Syria is sharing the fruits of its land with other nations, crocodile tears continue in the West about the disasters of the citizens of this country. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called on the UN Security Council to "take urgent measures" against the SAR. He stressed that many of the Syrians do not have access to basic goods and services and do not receive adequate medical care.

According to Ban Ki-moon, what measures should be taken in relation to Syria, the official did not specify. His Western masters apparently deliberately put into his mouth such words that can be manipulated as they please.

In his report, the Secretary General noted that thousands of Syrians do not receive life-saving drugs, and this is a clear violation of international humanitarian law. But he did not say a word about the need to lift the sanctions imposed on Syria by the United States and the EU unilaterally, without a decision of the UN Security Council.

As a result of these sanctions, and also because of the need to fight terrorists, the standard of living in the SAR has decreased. But the Syrians do not face hunger, while vegetables, fruits, wheat and other crops are growing on their fertile land. As you can see, Syria is even able to generously share fruit.

However, due to Western sanctions, many drugs, including essential ones, were no longer imported into the country. The UN Secretary General, if he touched on this topic, should have declared that measures should be taken not in relation to Syria, but in relation to those countries that imposed these sanctions. They wanted to punish the “regime” and punished the entire Syrian people.

This is the blatant hypocrisy that Western politicians absolutely do not care about people - the sufferings of Syrian citizens are beneficial to them. The whole calculation was reduced to the fact that the people, exhausted by the harsh living conditions, would turn their discontent against the country's leadership, and thus Washington and its allies would manage to turn the coup in their own interests. But more than three years have passed, and the Syrians are holding on. This causes wild bitterness among American and European politicians. They strengthen sanctions against the SAR, while helping the terrorists, who are called "oppositionists" and "revolutionaries." The UN is blocking the condemnation of any, even the most terrible act of terrorism against civilians. But on the other hand, it is so convenient to speculate on the sufferings of these citizens at various meetings and assemblies, as well as in the controlled, obedient press!
An example of cynicism was the column of the former political planning director of the US State Department, Anna Maria Slote, on the Project Syndicate website. Madame called ... in retaliation for Ukraine to strike at Syria. Moreover, Slot stipulates that Bashar al-Assad is "a lesser evil than the grouping associated with al-Qaeda." However, she declares: “The time has come to thwart Putin’s plans, and Syria is the right place for that.” That is, for the American Madame it is normal to kill thousands of innocent people on the other side of the globe, to destroy life in a foreign country just to “punish” Russia! The attitude of the Americans towards the people of Ukraine, who also fell victim to the intrigues of Washington, is no better.

And the Syrians continue to suffer at the hands of bandits supported by the West. 24 April in Damascus was shot from a mortar area of ​​Al-Amara. Five people, including two children, were injured. The areas of Salhia and Kazazin also came under terrorist attack. An act of terrorism was committed against a gas pipeline feeding a large power station, as a result of which the capital and its suburbs spent this day without electricity.
In the province of Damascus, several people were injured in the shelling of the city of Jaraman.

In the east of the country in the province of Hasakah in the city of Ras el-Ain, a car bomb exploded near the school. Two people died, there are also victims. In the city of Hama, criminals detonated a bomb previously laid in a dumpster. The blow fell on cars passing by and their passengers, a woman was seriously injured.

And the West, the United States and their puppets in the Arab world continue to play the old song about “regime” and “human rights” ... They are threatening us with new and new punitive measures. Syria, in spite of all this, not only fights with hired thugs, but also raises oranges, sharing them with the children of Russia.
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  1. Ulairy
    Ulairy April 26 2014 08: 54
    +126
    Well, what do you say ... Thank you very much, Syrians! "... and a peaceful sky overhead." good
    1. invisibility
      invisibility April 26 2014 09: 27
      +67
      Great news !!!
      Courageous Syrians, quickly deal with the bandits and send us more!
    2. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 26 2014 09: 27
      +50
      Well done, the people of Syria, we are with you.
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 26 2014 13: 42
      +41
      Quote: Ulairy
      Well, what do you say ... Thank you very much, Syrians! "... and a peaceful sky overhead."

      And also excuse us for the fact that in the end the distraught "American partners" bring trouble to your homes as punishment for supporting Russia!
      We value your opinion!
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF April 26 2014 19: 05
        +32
        From the bottom of my heart, gifts are especially valuable and important.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 26 2014 13: 52
      +30
      By the way, from Russia to Syria with humanitarian aid twice a week, two sides flies.
      1. Nick
        Nick April 27 2014 23: 18
        +3
        Quote: Sith Lord
        By the way, from Russia to Syria with humanitarian aid twice a week, two sides flies.

        It’s a pity that not more often ...
    5. Not angry
      Not angry April 26 2014 15: 07
      +11
      Quote: Ulairy
      Well, what do you say ... Thank you very much, Syrians! "... and a peaceful sky overhead."


      I am joining. I hope the two groups of ships of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Federation are there for good reason
    6. nika407
      nika407 April 26 2014 22: 36
      +22
      Syrians courage and resilience! And oranges ... still I would like them to be transported not to the orphanages of Moscow, but besides the Moscow Region also to smaller regional cities, where the kids see less fruit.

      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1514714&cid=9
  2. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 26 2014 09: 01
    +86
    A plundered, ruined country gives gifts to RUSSIAN children. This is gratitude for our help and support. Thank you, we will continue to support you. drinks
    1. Duke
      Duke April 26 2014 13: 27
      +35
      Thanks to Syria, I can’t say anything else, a tear in my eyes.
      1. Irkit
        Irkit April 27 2014 07: 59
        +9
        Himself tear up a tear, a long time ago there was no such thing.
  3. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 April 26 2014 09: 03
    +47
    Buy only Syrian oranges! Though in this way we will help the Syrian people!
    1. PN
      PN April 26 2014 09: 29
      +13
      Where else to get them? In our stores, all Egyptian products are sold.
    2. PN
      PN April 26 2014 09: 30
      +6
      But there is Iranian grape smile
    3. from punk
      from punk April 26 2014 13: 03
      +5
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Buy only Syrian oranges!

      they’ll be handed out to children’s homes
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 April 26 2014 14: 43
        +8
        Quote: punk
        they’ll be handed out to children’s homes

        The Ministry of Emergencies has already stated that everything will go to orphanages.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 15: 07
          -61%
          Quote: Russ69
          The Ministry of Emergencies has already stated that everything will go to orphanages.

          Workers of orphanages ... sad
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 15: 09
            +21
            Quote: Professor
            Workers of orphanages ...

            Professor, 80s passed, 2014 in the yard
            1. Professor
              Professor April 26 2014 15: 33
              -47%
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Professor
              Workers of orphanages ...

              Professor, 80s passed, 2014 in the yard

              Somehow I didn't think right away. Today even the anchor of the only aircraft carrier has been stolen. Oranges will not even reach orphanages, they will "disappear" at customs.
              1. xxxMYSTICxxx
                xxxMYSTICxxx April 26 2014 17: 09
                +24
                On their own people are not judged...
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              3. JIaIIoTb
                JIaIIoTb April 26 2014 19: 17
                +30
                Professor You are a smart person ..... but very vile.
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 26 2014 19: 39
                  -29%
                  Quote: JIaIIoTb
                  Professor You are a smart person ..... but very vile.
                  There is no prophet in his own country. None of the locals asks obvious questions about what these allies did for Russia, whether these 20 tons will reach orphans, which is why they are orphans in foster homes, and not at foster parents, and if Assad had not sent oranges, they would have received orphans ( with parents) citrus fruits?
                  1. Turkir
                    Turkir April 27 2014 10: 59
                    +4
                    Have you entered Hubbad long ago? Did they give you the position of professor there?
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                    2. siberalt
                      siberalt April 27 2014 14: 49
                      -6
                      One might think that the "professor's" doubts are groundless. Ukraine wonders how advanced it is to the just west, and then the donation of dry rations for the Svidomo army went into free trade to the endless markets of independence. laughing
                  2. Setrac
                    Setrac April 27 2014 14: 35
                    +8
                    Quote: Professor
                    None of the locals ask obvious questions about what these allies did for Russia,

                    Our REAL allies did the obvious thing - they pulled back hundreds of thousands of American terrorists who otherwise were now in Ukraine.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 27 2014 14: 56
                      -15%
                      Quote: Setrac
                      Our REAL allies did the obvious thing - they pulled back hundreds of thousands of American terrorists who otherwise were now in Ukraine.

                      The Americans allies laid about 600 thousand of their sons on the fronts of World War II, but what did they do for the USSR / Russia?
                      1. asar
                        asar April 28 2014 07: 11
                        +4
                        Well, the allies of the Yankees, for example, if they were that very short time, and even then - profit was again put at the forefront! Lend-Lease is a business! US military operations in the Pacific Ocean, in the East - division of spheres of influence, seizure of new territories, "squeezing out" Japan (again business, money!)!
                  3. Alex Danilov
                    Alex Danilov April 27 2014 23: 11
                    +6
                    Well, you and down.
                  4. aviator_IAS
                    aviator_IAS April 28 2014 15: 15
                    +3
                    Powerless anger from the camp of enemies confirms the loyalty of our course. So we are doing everything right! smile God forbid that they would praise us, as was the case under Yeltsin.

                    You Professor Does it look like a tantrum motivated by recent failures of Assad’s opponents in Syria? Do not worry so much, otherwise your teeth will be erased and you will have to go broke at the dentist.
                2. aksakal
                  aksakal April 26 2014 23: 56
                  +15
                  Quote: JIaIIoTb
                  Professor You are a smart person ..... but very vile.
                  - Well, better without transitions to the individual. But since you said about the professor, then I object - there was no impression and an intelligent person. An intelligent person would have long understood that with the forum users on this forum you need to argue with reason, and not with cliches and forged photos. By the way, the president of South Korea is a woman there today, for dumb and clumsy work, for rude fakes of news, dismissed the entire top of South Korean intelligence. And the professor tried to feed us the results of this stupid work. Moreover, it is clear that the work is clumsy, such as Eun personally burned this from the Grenade launcher and shot it from the flamethrower. Everything is Eun in the works of an aka bee, he does everything personally, even he has no time to even have breakfast with babies in the morning laughing And the professor was trying to relay this nonsense to us. laughing Is this a sign of mind? I don’t think so.
              4. skifd
                skifd April 27 2014 12: 09
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                Somehow I didn't think right away. Today even the anchor of the only aircraft carrier has been stolen. Oranges will not even reach orphanages, they will "disappear" at customs.


                Zadolbali already make fun of. Whoever is talking about anything, but "Baba Yaga" (well, damn it? National character trait? Do not disgrace the normal!) - always AGAINST !!!!
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 27 2014 12: 11
                  -5
                  Quote: skifd
                  Zadolbali already make fun of. Whoever is talking about anything, but "Baba Yaga" (well, damn it? National character trait? Do not disgrace the normal!) - always AGAINST !!!!

                  And the king is naked. wink
                  1. skifd
                    skifd April 27 2014 12: 31
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor
                    And the king is naked.


                    Everything ? Thoughtfully. Already delights. hi
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              5. asar
                asar April 28 2014 07: 02
                +2
                Laughing sinfully ...
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          2. 311ove
            311ove April 26 2014 15: 21
            +6
            Nowadays not everything is so sad with us, as it is seen "from afar" ... yes
          3. domjoly
            domjoly April 26 2014 16: 24
            +2
            Soon, Washington will deal with its internal problems and Israel nest, sorry, there are many of our compatriots
            1. Setrac
              Setrac April 27 2014 14: 38
              +3
              Quote: domjoly
              Soon, Washington will deal with its internal problems and Israel nest, sorry, there are many of our compatriots

              Gvizdets will not come to Israel, because not all in Israel are such cadres as a proxy.
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          6. The point
            The point April 27 2014 11: 16
            +3
            people, it seems to me that you are in vain minus. it usually happens.
            Of course, I would like to avoid this. and a deep bow to the Syrians and a huge THANKS!
            1. Setrac
              Setrac April 27 2014 14: 38
              +4
              Quote: Maksud
              and a deep bow to the Syrians and a huge THANKS!

              That's it, the Syrians are not to blame here, how do we distribute these oranges.
              1. asar
                asar April 28 2014 07: 15
                +2
                If the "distributors" still have CONSCIENCE, then the children from orphanages will gorge themselves on Syrian oranges! And it is simply ugly, dishonorable and not ethical to scoff at the country that from the bottom of its heart gave Russia such a gift!
      2. tolyasik0577
        tolyasik0577 April 28 2014 11: 39
        0
        Well, yes, and they will not sell on the Internet like American dry packs in Ukraine)))
    4. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF April 26 2014 19: 07
      +5
      When everything goes well with them, I suggest that you don’t go to Turkey for beaches, but to our friends in Syria. The main thing is that our tagil does not spoil the whole impression.
      1. asar
        asar April 28 2014 07: 18
        +2
        Totally agree! I heard from our servicemen in Tartus about the excellent conditions in Syria!
    5. kia64
      kia64 April 27 2014 01: 40
      +1
      Gifts do not sell. It's time for Syria to enter Russia!
  4. azanov
    azanov April 26 2014 09: 09
    +39
    Not every nation is capable of taking and sharing all that it has like this. Let it be just oranges. It is important that with all my heart and at such a difficult moment for my Motherland! They are somewhat similar to the representatives of the Russian world. Thank you very much !!!
    1. Ajax
      Ajax April 26 2014 14: 54
      +5
      As the saying goes, "The rich you are, the more you are happy"
    2. gfnhbjnrf
      gfnhbjnrf April 26 2014 17: 02
      +6
      There is an opinion that there is a Russia-Syria, Moscow-Damascus connection, even the names intersect
      1. Setrac
        Setrac April 27 2014 14: 41
        +2
        Quote: gfnhbjnrf
        There is an opinion that there is a Russia-Syria, Moscow-Damascus connection, even the names intersect

        Syria - Assur - read from right to left.
        daMASK - MOSCOW - a funny coincidence, but is it a coincidence?
  5. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 26 2014 09: 12
    +18
    the beginning of the article was moved to tears
  6. from punk
    from punk April 26 2014 09: 13
    +7
    Well, while the mattresses are trying to scare Russia. Syria turns out to hammer the militants. BDK caravans go to the coast of Syria regularly
  7. Sharky
    Sharky April 26 2014 09: 14
    +6
    Moget i tam nastalo vremya Veglivih ludey? bully
  8. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson April 26 2014 09: 19
    +4
    It will be necessary to send all of Our volunteers, to help restore the infrastructure.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt April 27 2014 14: 59
      0
      To restore my own. In addition to Moscow, there are other cities in Russia. Where there is nothing left but pensions and salaries of state employees incompatible with the average for Russia.
  9. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- April 26 2014 09: 19
    +18
    The Syrian people and Bashar al-Assad-forces and courage in the further fight against terrorism! Thank you, friends!
  10. Puler
    Puler April 26 2014 09: 19
    +9
    tears recede only after the onset of rage ... with the understanding of how the Yankees pessionally kill people where and how they want ... can it really be so awakening?
  11. fvandaku
    fvandaku April 26 2014 09: 24
    +9
    It is high time to supply modern weapons to Syria.
    So that the Syrians themselves could give a fitting rebuff to the terrorists.
  12. Professor
    Professor April 26 2014 09: 32
    -81%
    But gratitude is not limited to words. Tortured by sanctions and a terrorist war, Syria managed to find the strength and means to give Russia 20 tons of oranges.

    Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world. Half a million dollars per kilogram or $ 20 per orange. good

    As you can see, Syria is even able to generously share fruits.

    What a bounty, oranges roll on the ground and just rot. Tomorrow I will specially take a picture and show a photo of what value oranges in BV are of.

    Syria, despite all this, not only fights against hired bandits, but also grows oranges, sharing them with the children of Russia.

    They themselves grow like pine trees in Russia. fellow
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 09: 37
      +53
      Quote: Professor
      and in gratitude, the Syrian regime gave 20 tons of orange.

      A MODE in Israel how many cattle from Russia sheltered in their homeland, plundered Russia?
      Sit professor, not you talking about the regime supporting terrorists in Syria.
      1. Professor
        Professor April 26 2014 10: 06
        -53%
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A MODE in Israel how many cattle from Russia sheltered in their homeland, plundered Russia?

        Let's get a list. Who did Russia ask for? I know only one and then he is accused of murder.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sit professor, not you talking about the regime supporting terrorists in Syria.

        Things to the studio. It should have gathered in 3 years.
        Or are you talking about this "terrorist"? A little girl with a heart defect brought to the Poria hospital from Syria
        On Thursday, April 24, an 11-month-old patient from Syria was delivered to the pediatric cardiology department of the Poria hospital (Tiberias), the press service of this medical institution reported.

        A child has congenital heart failure. Israeli authorities allow this girl’s grandmother to accompany her child during treatment in Tiberias
        1. f.lourens
          f.lourens April 26 2014 11: 01
          +27
          You don’t talk about the girl, everyone understands that this is populism and hypocrisy .. that’s when you stop supporting terrorists then there will be a conversation .... how many children and just civilians died in Syria with your support ???? minus again hi
          1. Professor
            Professor April 26 2014 11: 22
            -62%
            Quote: f.lourens
            .and how many children and just civilians died in Syria with your support ????

            With our zero point zero, but the Russian Tornadoes had killed a lot of women and children just now.
            You are looking more carefully for Israeli aid to terrorists. For three years I’ve only heard about this, but I haven’t seen any material evidence. request
            1. GradusHuK
              GradusHuK April 26 2014 13: 30
              +15
              You on the Maidan to help Kolomoisky.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 11: 56
          +28
          Quote: Professor
          I know only one and then he is accused of murder.

          If you wish, make a list yourself. One pig by the name of Gusinsky, who drove enough weapons to Chechnya.
          Quote: Professor
          Things to the studio. It should have gathered in 3 years.

          I brought them to you, including your statements to the UN, but you have accused me of trollism - remember? And I don’t remember Israel condemning the terrorists in Syria.
          Quote: Professor
          A child has congenital heart failure. Israeli authorities allow this girl’s grandmother to accompany her child during treatment in Tiberias

          The United States also sent Suhpaics to Ukraine. Fear of the Danes ...
          1. atalef
            atalef April 26 2014 12: 02
            -33%
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            You’ll have a wish to make a list yourself. One pig named Gusinsky, who drove enough weapons to Chechnya

            San. Gusinsky does not live in Israel

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And I don’t remember Israel condemning the terrorists in Syria.

            This is not our business, Syria has not only not condemned. she trained terrorists who then killed Israelis, including with Russian citizenship

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The United States also sent Suhpaics to Ukraine. Fear of the Danes.

            those. had to let him die?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 12: 14
              +16
              Quote: atalef
              . Gusinsky does not live in Israel

              Not anymore, but he did not give it out upon request.
              1. Professor
                Professor April 26 2014 12: 39
                -27%
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Not anymore, but he did not give it out upon request.

                Was there a request? wink
                1. W1950
                  W1950 April 26 2014 14: 22
                  +10
                  Professor, well, Nevzlin certainly hasn’t gone anywhere from Israel, and Gus, when he cooks it, quickly fades to his historical homeland.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 26 2014 14: 39
                    -20%
                    Quote: W1950
                    Professor, well, Nevzlin is definitely from Israel.

                    He was at his house. nice person. It definitely doesn’t look like a killer. laughing
                    Quote: W1950
                    and Gus, when baked, quickly fades to his historical homeland.

                    Where does it shed?
                  2. Professor
                    Professor April 26 2014 15: 08
                    -16%
                    Quote: W1950
                    Professor, well, Nevzlin certainly hasn’t gone anywhere from Israel, and Gus, when he cooks it, quickly fades to his historical homeland.

                    Nevzlin, the only one of which Russia asks to be extradited.
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac April 27 2014 14: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Nevzlin, the only one of which Russia asks to be extradited.

                      But you do not give out, give out this - we will ask others.
              2. their
                their April 26 2014 23: 25
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: atalef
                . Gusinsky does not live in Israel

                Not anymore, but he did not give it out upon request.


                Not true, all his relatives live in Israel. The daughter married an Israeli.
          2. Professor
            Professor April 26 2014 12: 17
            -13%
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If you wish, make a list yourself. One pig by the name of Gusinsky, who drove enough weapons to Chechnya.

            The list is yours. Gusinsky, incidentally, is not in Israel.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I brought them to you, including your statements to the UN, but you have accused me of trollism - remember?

            I do not remember. Not a single material evidence was given. Well, maybe a decommissioned Jeep sold for scrap. laughing

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The United States also sent Suhpaics to Ukraine. Fear of the Danes ...

            ... and that makes the 11-month-old girl a terrorist?
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 12: 31
        +12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A MODE in Israel how many cattle from Russia sheltered in their homeland, plundered Russia?

        Hi Sanya. hi The former head of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of the Samara Region A. Reimer, the cattle, is hiding there.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 12: 35
          -17%
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Hi Sanya. The former head of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of the Samara Region A. Reimer, cattle, is hiding there

          He is not alone
          Putin's friend builds a house in Caesarea for $ 100 million
          The complex occupies 14 hectares and looks like a Washington White House. The entrance is framed by stone gilded columns. The marble floor is lined with flowers, the doors are brought from Italy and also gilded. The fence surrounding this palace will be covered in gold, which will cost about 2 million shekels.

          The living room and hallway occupy almost half a hectare. A private road leads to the villa, for guests there is a parking and underground parking. Electricity will be supplied to the house by a small power station located in the basement.
          Construction began four years ago when five villas were demolished on Adar Street in Caesarea (on which Sarah and Benjamin Netanyahu live). This year, two more neighboring villas were bought for 27 million shekels.
          The owner of the palace is Valery Mikhailovich Kogan, born in 1951, chairman of the supervisory board of the Domodedovo airport, chairman of the board of directors of the East Line group, the management company of the Domodedovo airport. Member of the founders of a number of foreign companies. It takes 64th place in the rating of the Russian-language version of Forbes, his fortune is estimated at 1,6 billion dollars.
          In 2008, V. Kogan received a refusal from the American authorities to build a house with an area of ​​5 square meters. Motivation for failure: the house will interfere with neighbors.
          In 2009, he purchased the most expensive apartment in Israel at that time - a penthouse in Tel Aviv, located in the SEA ONE project on the seafront between Ha Yarkon and Herbert Samuel Streets.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 12: 49
            +10
            Quote: atalef
            He is not alone

            Just all thieves. And then you wonder why they don’t like Jews. (They also steal their own, but what is forgiven by their own is asked from strangers. What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull)
            1. atalef
              atalef April 26 2014 12: 52
              -23%
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              They also steal their own, but what is forgiven by their own is asked from strangers. What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull)

              Ie they go to us to bull? laughing
              Of course, they cannot be compared with Depardieu running from taxes.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 02
                +19
                Quote: atalef
                they cannot be compared with Depardieu running from taxes.

                The tax code with the criminal differ slightly, do not you find? And the Departier left his homeland, so as not to violate its laws, and your citizens easily violate the laws of other countries, and then hide in their historic homeland. Not by concept! (From Goy's point of view) laughing
              2. Corsair
                Corsair April 26 2014 14: 56
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                they cannot be compared with Depardieu running from taxes.

                From the UNJUST-PURPOSE taxes, which the power of the newly elected president tried to "push" ...
                Depardieu would have kept silent and others, and the "innovation" would "channel" ...

                And so, the government of the republic caught itself in time, without bringing the situation to the point of absurdity ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 26 2014 15: 00
                  -8
                  Quote: Corsair
                  From the UNJUST-PURPOSE taxes, which the power of the newly elected president tried to "push".

                  So ordinary French people are suitable, but poor Depardieu is not. And how does it differ from all this thieves. which hides in the offshore? Sorry forgot. by that. that they haven’t handed them a GDP passport yet

                  Quote: Corsair
                  Depardieu would have kept silent and others, and the "innovation" would "channel" ...

                  You know, the rich must pay taxes, I think about this you agree with me.
                  I pay almost 47% - not fatally.
                  1. Corsair
                    Corsair April 26 2014 15: 06
                    +6
                    Quote: atalef
                    So ordinary French

                    The "privates" simply did not have time to rise. The government caught on in time, otherwise there would have been more unrest, akin to the Maidan.
                  2. Professor
                    Professor April 26 2014 15: 10
                    -5
                    Quote: atalef
                    I pay almost 47% - not fatally.

                    You forgot the medical tax, social insurance, pension and VAT. There everything will work out 60-70%.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 26 2014 15: 14
                      -3
                      Quote: Professor
                      You forgot the medical tax, social insurance, pension and VAT. There everything will work out 60-70%.

                      I don’t even want to remember about VAT and other markups.
                      Quite sour.
                      100% import tax on cars, and indeed - Depardieu would definitely hang himself from our taxes.
                  3. Fin
                    Fin April 26 2014 15: 34
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    You know, the rich must pay taxes, I think about this you agree with me. I pay almost 47% - not fatally.

                    Except Depardieu, do you think that all the rich there are happy to pay the new tax? The rest just fled to other countries, but why talk about it. Can you tell me where the richest Belgian-French Arno moved the business? Better to flash about Depardieu. Will 75% be normal for you?
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 26 2014 15: 48
                      -7
                      Quote: Fin
                      Except Depardieu, do you think that all the rich there are happy to pay the new tax?

                      But only Depardieu escaped. In general, no one likes to pay taxes.
                      But to run away, strange, you protect the thief Depardieu. and how? What's the difference ? The fact that their kitchens do not advertise?
                      1. Fin
                        Fin April 26 2014 16: 31
                        +8
                        Quote: atalef
                        protect thief Depardieu.

                        Is there evidence of theft? What are Arno silent about?
                      2. their
                        their April 26 2014 23: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Fin
                        Quote: atalef
                        protect thief Depardieu.

                        Is there evidence of theft? What are Arno silent about?


                        Arno, the Zionist Jew is silent about this, and there are a lot of French Jews who have fled from tax exemptions and whoever has gone, especially to Israel.
                      3. 52
                        52 April 27 2014 15: 17
                        +1
                        Jean Michel Jarre is also dumped, only in "small-scale". And also from taxes.
                    2. 31231
                      31231 April 27 2014 18: 08
                      0
                      Depardieu is a thief? As far as I know, no criminal charges have been brought against him for theft. Or as before just to blur?
                2. Turkir
                  Turkir April 27 2014 11: 05
                  0
                  Why are you not in the USA yet? Are there more taxes to be paid than in Israel?
  13. Wedmak
    Wedmak April 26 2014 10: 05
    +31
    But is Israel capable of at least giving something? Just? Let it be the same oranges lying under your feet. Or can you just throw bombs from around the corner and chant which ones you have chosen by God? Ugh on you.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 10: 16
      -21%
      Quote: Wedmak
      But is Israel capable of at least giving something?

      for example: Israeli doctors return from Haiti
      Today, the IDF Field Hospital in Haiti is curtailing its work. Tents, bunks and blankets will be donated to those affected by the earthquake.

      The IDF's homeland service delegation is returning to Israel on Wednesday after doctors treated more than 1000 victims. In the hospital, 300 operations were performed, 16 babies were born in it.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak April 26 2014 10: 32
        +11
        Well, at least I heard something good. And about everything about your endless struggle and responses to threats.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 10: 36
          -17%
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well, at least I heard something good. And about everything about your endless struggle and responses to threats.

          You contact, I will tell you a lot of interesting things. hi
        2. Rblipetsk
          Rblipetsk April 26 2014 23: 10
          +1
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well, at least I heard something good. And about everything about your endless struggle and responses to threats

          horseradish dwas. Evryugi so what and who can count the loot. it turned out to be more expensive to export, so the "benefactors" left it.
        3. Michael_59
          Michael_59 April 27 2014 20: 05
          +2
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well, at least I heard something good


          What good is it?

          We practiced on the road. "On cats". The drugs have been tested.

          Oh, what is it me, about good things, yes "through the fan" - you see, I went over too many sour cabbage soup ...
      2. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 26 2014 11: 03
        +8
        How beautifully written ... probably only Israel helped them ??? minus again hi
      3. Gall_st
        Gall_st April 26 2014 12: 13
        +9
        Quote: Professor
        Tents, bunks and blankets will be donated to those affected by the earthquake.

        If for good, then this would not even be worth talking about.
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 27 2014 17: 50
        0
        And for a good thing, why minus ??? Out of habit?
    2. Michael_59
      Michael_59 April 27 2014 20: 00
      +5
      Quote: Wedmak
      But is Israel even capable of at least giving something? Just?


      Of course he is. But under the good%!
  14. voveim
    voveim April 26 2014 10: 05
    +24
    Well, you, in the promised land, of course, know better! After all, Israel is a fully self-sustaining state and exists without any help from its great star-striped sponsor! How much does your Pentagon rolls every year? And how much then do you return - with pure money, and not dirty tricks against the same Syria?
    And about oranges and about 10 billion bucks - this is our business with the Syrians, and they do not concern anyone!
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 10: 19
      -33%
      Quote: voveim
      How much does your Pentagon rolls every year?

      A penny a penny with Egypt, not the most friendly country in Israel. This amount is about 3 billion dollars a year.

      Quote: voveim
      And about oranges and about 10 billion bucks - this is our business with the Syrians, and they do not concern anyone!

      No, dear, not your business. The debt of 10 billion is the debt to the Soviet Union of which I was a citizen. Where is my money, Zin? I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.
      1. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 26 2014 11: 06
        +20
        Since you left the country, or rather you ran away, you have no moral right to say something for the money that should be in my country ... friendship doesn’t measure money ... minus hi
      2. Baikal
        Baikal April 26 2014 11: 09
        +18
        It’s strange. It’s like an adult, but measures everything with money.
        You, uncle, have long years and a crowd of lenders in difficult moments in life. Maybe it will.
      3. Locksmith
        Locksmith April 26 2014 11: 14
        +14
        Quote: Professor
        I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.

        It would be nice not to forget to return the debt to your homeland — it raised you, educated you — what are you using now by the way, and probably a lot of insider information too.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 11: 26
          -22%
          Quote: Locksmith
          Quote: Professor
          I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.

          It would be nice not to forget to return the debt to your homeland — it raised you, educated you — what are you using now by the way, and probably a lot of insider information too.

          That "debt" has long been repaid by my grandfathers who plowed for work on the collective farms, my father who had fought for 20 years in distant garrisons, and who had served me to the fullest. And the paradox is that when I continued my studies in the West, the bourgeois did not take money from me for my studies, moreover, they even paid a scholarship, and now none of them stutters about paying off the debt. Only former komunyaki practice it.
          1. dmikras
            dmikras April 26 2014 15: 45
            +13
            now it’s clear where and why the wind blows
            caressed he warmed up and forgot all the good
            and let's bark
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          3. Setrac
            Setrac April 27 2014 14: 55
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            That "debt" has long been repaid by my grandfathers, who plowed for work on collective farms, my father who had fought for 20 years in distant garrisons and who had served me to the fullest.

            Your fathers and grandfathers also received education, lived in our country and repaid their debts, yours still weigh, but where has it been seen so that a Jew repays his debts!
      4. voveim
        voveim April 26 2014 11: 16
        +18
        Exactly - WAS! And then he took, but swam away! Or, for every fireman, retained dual citizenship? Typically Israeli forethought ...
        As for permission, no one asked you for it. And do not ask, do not hope for it. Do not even count.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 11: 29
          -15%
          Quote: voveim
          As for permission, no one asked you for it. And do not ask, do not hope for it. Do not even count.

          In fairness, it should be noted that nobody living in Russia now asked for your opinion or consent. laughing
          1. voveim
            voveim April 26 2014 12: 21
            +14
            But taking quotes out of context is also a typical Israeli manner! Or did you not like the question of dual citizenship? By the way, I didn't skimp from Russia. And he did not demand money from anyone for the "Holocaust" (this is the question of debts).
            1. Professor
              Professor April 26 2014 12: 43
              -6
              And I didn’t drape from Russia, but left another country, and didn’t. I do not demand money for the Holocaust. Israel received money from Germany, however, as the USSR received.
              However, your opinion was not asked by the Russian government to give your (and mine) money or not.
              1. voveim
                voveim April 26 2014 13: 08
                +13
                The USSR fought with Germany. And he defeated her in open battle, having received legal reparations by the right of the winner. There was no mention of Israel then, and it was not a fact that it would have appeared if it had not been for the USSR and Stalin. Only then quickly the Bundes-Germans quickly rolled out the bill, and they took and paid! Only you how much for free does not fall, all is not enough ...
                As for another country, Russia is the successor of the USSR, and yet you dragged from it! And about dual citizenship is weak to answer?
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 26 2014 14: 48
                  -6
                  Quote: voveim
                  Only then quickly the Bundes-Germans quickly rolled out the bill, and they took and paid! Only you how much for free does not fall, all is not enough ...

                  Germany and now pays money to Russian citizens forcibly deported to Germany to work. For your information.

                  Quote: voveim
                  As for another country, Russia is the successor of the USSR, and yet you dragged from it! And about dual citizenship is weak to answer?

                  I from Russia did not drape and I do not have dual citizenship with her.
                  1. voveim
                    voveim April 27 2014 07: 04
                    +2
                    Germany and now pays money to Russian citizens forcibly deported to Germany to work. For your information.
                    Yes? How long have you started to pay? After Bear-desman spotted East Germany with giblets sold? In 1989, it seems, it was? How many of those citizens were alive at that time?
                    And Israel, back in the early 60s, drove out 500 "green lemons" from the Bundes (by the way, they were also later written off). And even then, "modern West German weapons, including tanks, planes and helicopters, began to secretly enter Israel. absolutely exceptional conditions - for 10% of the cost, and some types of weapons - free of charge. "
                    And again a freebie, yes, professor? Where are you without her in Israel? Name the source, or believe the word?
        2. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 13: 30
          -21%
          Quote: voveim
          Or, for every fireman, retained dual citizenship? Typically Israeli forethought ...

          Why double? I have a triple (Israel, Russia, Canada), and of course you can get the fourth one (maybe my wife has Ukrainian), they just don’t reach my hands.


          Quote: voveim
          As for permission, no one asked you for it. .

          you have the same way laughing
          1. voveim
            voveim April 26 2014 14: 21
            +16
            Finally! Although not after 40 years, he still answered. Tip: you and your wife, just in case, visit the embassy of the Kingdom of Nauru to see if you can. By the way, why did they offend Canada, write with a small letter? I don’t want to ask about Russia, it’s such and such, it’s not worth it, is it? Nervous, professor? Calm ...
            And now to the point. You, sorry for the tautology, from Russia draped, and probably in the 90s, when she writhed in pain, and I was born here, live, and survived everything with her - both good and bad. So there’s no need to teach both of us through the lip! As for the money, even if you didn’t ask, then what? They are not yours now ... But we make good money here.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 26 2014 14: 29
              -11%
              Quote: voveim
              Finally! Although not after 40 years, he still answered. Tip: you and your wife, just in case, visit the Embassy of the Kingdom of Nauru

              Nauru are those who recognized Abkhazia. and then refused?

              Quote: voveim
              By the way, why did they offend Canada, write with a small letter?

              Will survive

              Quote: voveim
              I don’t want to ask about Russia, it’s such and such, it’s not worth it, is it?

              Yes, no great country, with all the pros and cons

              Quote: voveim
              And now to the point. You, sorry for the tautology, from Russia draped, and probably in the 90s, when she writhed in pain

              In the 90s, gave her the opportunity to writhe without me. Leaving everything and taking as many as 2 suitcases and 20 bucks

              Quote: voveim
              I was born here, I live, and survived everything with her - both good and bad

              Well, what monument to you to put up a miraculous? Jew to Israel. Russian - in Russia. I think everything is right
              Quote: voveim
              So there’s no need to teach both of us through the lip!

              And that you have such an inferiority complex. nobody teaches you in general. so thoughts are a rumor

              Quote: voveim
              As for the money, even if you didn’t ask, then what? They are not yours now ... But we make good money here.

              Yes, I somehow do not need Russian money, believe me, there are enough of mine .... I even said, well, it is enough. hi
              1. voveim
                voveim April 26 2014 16: 10
                +12
                Nauru are those who recognized Abkhazia. and then refused?
                Those, right, that's why I remembered about them.

                In the 90s, gave her the opportunity to writhe without me.
                But today it has leveled off ... It's a shame, right?

                Jew to Israel. Russian - in Russia. I think everything is right
                Gold words. Still all these Posners with Wexlers in the ears.
      5. Fin
        Fin April 26 2014 15: 38
        +16
        Quote: Professor
        Where is my money, Zin? I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.

        When the Russian Federation paid debts, something you could not hear, but to open your mouth to something-it is easy. The mentality however.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 15: 47
          -15%
          Quote: Fin
          When the Russian Federation paid debts, something you could not hear, but to open your mouth to something-it is easy.

          Do you want to say when Russia (as the legal heir "appropriated all the property of the USSR abroad, and proudly divided the debts of the USSR among all the former republics of the USSR? The mentality, however.
          1. Fin
            Fin April 26 2014 17: 21
            +9
            Ukraine signed the “Zero Option” in December 1994. The Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaliy Masol endorsed. The idea of ​​the “zero option” came from the West, and was born not in Russia and not in Ukraine. The decisive contribution to the preparation of the “zero option” agreement between the former Soviet republics was made by Jean-Claude Trichet, head of the Bank of France, then chairman of the Paris Club of creditors. He then made a number of voyages to Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries, where he prepared and agreed on the text of this document.
            As a result, Russia under this agreement assumed obligations to pay a share of Ukraine’s external debt, and Ukraine transferred to Russia the share of its assets of the former USSR. Today, after Russia has settled all debts of the Paris Club with the debts of the Paris Club, the countries of the world consider the Russian Federation to be the only legal successor of debts and assets of the former USSR. Dozens of international legal acts regulating these issues have been signed and ratified. Former Chairman of the National Bank of Ukraine Vadim Getman said that Kiev had missed its opportunity in solving the problem of succession of the USSR heritage. One of the leaders of Deutsche Bank, Georg Krupp, in an interview with the Ukrainian magazine Politika i Chas, also emphasized that Ukraine "at one time did not obey the advice to take on part of the debts and was left with nothing."
            Any questions on these matters?
          2. siberalt
            siberalt April 27 2014 15: 16
            +1
            "Krapivin! You started well, but ended badly." laughing
          3. Docent1984
            Docent1984 April 27 2014 20: 38
            0
            Well, such frank nonsense - it’s even funny to listen) What were the former Soviet republics that paid the Soviet, and buy it, imperial duty? Or is it such a secret about which no one except you personally have heard of?)))
            1. Professor
              Professor April 27 2014 21: 54
              -5
              Quote: Docent1984
              Well, such frank nonsense - it’s even funny to listen) What were the former Soviet republics that paid the Soviet, and buy it, imperial duty? Or is it such a secret about which no one except you personally have heard of?)))

              Go and learn the story.
              Russia and Ukraine in December 1994 in Moscow entered into a similar agreement on the settlement of issues of succession in relation to the external public debt and assets of the former USSR, but it has not yet entered into force, since the Ukrainian parliament twice, in 1997 and 2009, refused ratify it. According to the resolution of the Verkhovna Rada of February 19, 1997 "On the procedure for ratifying the agreement ...", Kiev set a number of conditions to Moscow. Among them, obtaining complete information on the state of the gold reserve, diamond fund and balance sheets of banks of the former USSR as of December 1, 1991, as well as the balance sheet and market value of property of the former USSR abroad with an international audit. Since the agreement on the "zero option" has not entered into force, Ukraine is still considering the concluded agreements on the division of foreign property of the USSR by the acting and subject to implementation by the parties. In particular, almost immediately after his election as president, Viktor Yanukovych said that Ukraine was in favor of dividing the property of the former Soviet Union between all the former republics of the USSR.

              "This process (negotiations on the division of the property of the former USSR - IF) has been going on almost from the first years of Ukraine's independence, and we do not see a solution yet. We will never recognize this, we believe that his (property of the former USSR - approx. ed.) must be divided between the countries of the former USSR, "he said in May 2010.

              For its part, Russia considers the issue settled and has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to negotiate with Ukraine regarding debts and assets, referring, inter alia, to the conclusion of an agreement in December 1994.

              According to some Ukrainian experts, Russia paid up to $ 14 billion of external debts for Ukraine, while the total value of the USSR’s foreign property reached $ 300-400 billion, which means Ukraine’s share in them amounted to $ 49-65 billion, not to mention the assets of former Soviet banks. in particular, deposits of citizens of Ukraine in the Savings Bank of the USSR.
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      6. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx April 26 2014 18: 28
        +5
        Quote: Professor
        No, dear, not your business. The debt of 10 billion is the debt to the Soviet Union of which I was a citizen. Where is my money, Zin? I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.


        That's it. You sold your homeland at a difficult moment as a port girl and got over where you slept sweeter and tasted better than an axis. So no one would ask you even if there was a poll.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 19: 15
          -2
          Quote: skiff-1980
          You sold your homeland at a difficult moment as a port girl and got over where you slept sweeter and tasted better than an axis. So no one would ask you even if there was a poll.

          Well, I’m directly on the milk shores. Enviously?
      7. gandalf
        gandalf April 26 2014 20: 46
        +5
        No, dear, not your business. The debt of 10 billion is the debt to the Soviet Union of which I was a citizen. Where is my money, Zin? I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.


        As in a joke: Izya, I heard that the Jews sold their homeland. Where can I get my share?

        You got your share already when you left the country, which at least gave you a free education, on the basis of which you work in another country and pay taxes in it. So, when carrying out settlements, most likely, you still have to stay. wink
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 20: 53
          -9
          Quote: gandalf
          You were given a free education, on the basis of which you work in another country and pay taxes in it.

          I repeat, my education in the USSR was paid in full by me and my ancestors. But in a bourgeois university I studied for free ...
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv April 26 2014 21: 24
            +4
            Quote: Professor
            I repeat, my education in the USSR was paid in full by me and my ancestors. But in a bourgeois university I studied for free ...

            Oleg, my friend ...
            You’ve even lost his temper today ...
            laughing
            ... Politics, like politicians - is impossible to understand.
            In their bath, insatiable orcs.
            ... otherwise you all "rub" around these "oranges" ...
            winked

            I put forward a new motto:
            "Military of all countries - unite!"
            Good tryndet.
            Then there will be more order, and ... we will deal with the economy.

            AND THE FIRST STEP weekend time ))) ... (on duty and on guard do not watch):
            1. Professor
              Professor April 26 2014 21: 26
              -2
              Quote: Aleks tv
              Oleg, my friend ...
              You’ve even lost his mind today ..

              I hate oranges !!! wassat
              1. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv April 26 2014 21: 51
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                I hate oranges !!!

                laughing
                Oleg, and with a knife, remove the zest from them with a thin layer (without white), cut into small pieces and mix in the dough.
                So ... you will feel the aroma.
                yes
                I’m telling you like an amateur cook.

                Who about what, and naked about the bath ...
                wink
                Photo: On the second?
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 26 2014 22: 14
                  -2
                  Quote: Aleks tv
                  Oleg, and with a knife, remove the zest from them with a thin layer (without white), cut into small pieces and mix in the dough.
                  So ... you will feel the aroma.

                  You did not understand. A tree worthless, though evergreen. There are few shadows since there is a stunt and a lot of garbage. You can’t rest under it. Again, oranges must be collected otherwise the bees fly into rot. You can’t make moonshine with them, or jam too. Another thing is olive. good Noble beautiful tree. Fruits for vodka, beer, wine and just like that. And which one is the oil ...
                  By the way, oranges are the cheapest fruit in the region. Therefore, Asad’s generosity caught me.
                  1. Aleks tv
                    Aleks tv April 26 2014 22: 24
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor
                    You did not understand. A tree worthless, though evergreen.

                    Oleg ... and where does it finally - "oranges" ???
                    I just can’t reach you.
                    laughing

                    It is time "third" pour... maybe it will get through ALL THE DISPERSONS ... about - "apisiny" ...

                    And this is HOLY.Do not clink glasses.
                    GOD judge you ...
                    ...Go...
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 23: 33
                      +3
                      Quote: Aleks tv
                      ...Go...

                      Only with a friend’s day came, I thought I would look VO before going to bed, but even here there was agitation! We'll have to skip the glass again. drinks
                    2. siberalt
                      siberalt April 27 2014 15: 21
                      0
                      I'll go, too, "doggie" I wave for the company laughing
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 27 2014 11: 12
      0
      You did the same, Monya, so now your grandmothers are gone. Went up early, right now Vova your grandmother and returned it to you, but would have closed the border and would have taken away extra passports. So what or motherland or grandmother.
    3. Setrac
      Setrac April 27 2014 14: 52
      +1
      In order to claim debts to the Soviet Union, one must take on the debts of the Soviet Union to other countries. This was done by Russia and not Israel, you do not have any rights and this money is not yours.
    4. Starshina wmf
      Starshina wmf April 28 2014 09: 17
      +1
      Yes, you hesitated. Go to the synagogue, pray, calm down.
  15. atalef
    atalef April 26 2014 10: 54
    -16%
    Quote: voveim
    After all, Israel is a fully self-sustaining state and exists without any help from its great star-striped sponsor! How much does your Pentagon rolls every year? And how much then you return - purely in money

    Purely money - zero. We are talking about non-cash payments and purchases of exclusively Amer’s weapons and an amount of 3 billion - well, that’s as much as 1% (even slightly less) of our GDP. I don’t even know how we would live laughing
    Against the backdrop of the ongoing financial crisis, accompanied by a slowdown in growth and even a drop in US GDP and European countries, the Israeli economy looks quite safe. The results of the growth of the Israeli economy in 2013 - an increase in GDP by 3,3%.
    For the first time in history, GDP exceeded 1 trillion shekels and amounted to 1,05 trillion, or 301 billion dollars
    GDP per capita also reached a record level of 37,3 thousand dollars. The standard of living in the country grew by 1,8%, and the volume of private consumption - by 3,7%.

    It is noteworthy that the Israeli economy is kept at a high level due to the export of technologies, the demand for which, although in crisis years, has been falling, but insignificantly, which allows Israel to ensure sustained economic growth.

    The level of GDP per capita is only 3 times higher than in Russia-- is there anything to say about this?
    Russia, whose per capita income was estimated at 12,7 thousand dollars, is at 72 place, between Croatia and Poland

    Even if you omit American help. making up the WHOLE PERCENT percent of GDP, all the same the country has no analogues in the world. Well, for some reason, it’s very far away, very well.
    1. voveim
      voveim April 26 2014 13: 42
      +11
      Again twenty-five! It has already been said to your fellow tribesman: do not take quotes out of context! There was not only about money, but about the dirty tricks that you arrange for the same Syria, and which go to you in offset from Uncle Sam! About 3 billion a year - you are driving your grandmother over the ears! And I have been subscribing to Foreign Military Review since 80 and reading it from cover to cover, there is a lot of things written about your IDF. On the backfill the question: will at least one "Merkava" move if the Americans do not supply spare parts for the engine? Whose engines were on "Kfirs"? Not to mention where and when you stole their drawings! And so it is possible to drive through the entire line of "Israeli technologies" ...
      And what about your record GDP and other things:
      1. A flag is in your hands with a star of David and a drum with it on your neck! Sit on the priest evenly, rejoice.
      2. If there were fewer oligarchs in Russia and not all of them were Abramovichs and Vekselbergs, then you would also see more per capita GDP.
      But this question, God willing, we will still work. Have you read the book of Colonel Kvachkov? There it is written about it.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 26 2014 13: 58
        -8
        Quote: voveim
        but about the dirty tricks that you arrange the same Syria

        Everything is mutual. they attacked us 5 times. then they supported terror against us in every possible way. By the way, Syria and I are still at war.
        What are we to kiss with them, and so we cure, by the way at my expense

        Quote: voveim
        About 3 billion a year - it's you who ride on your grandmother's ears!

        Any other numbers? Sound
        Quote: voveim
        And I have been subscribing to Foreign Military Review since 80 and reading it cover to cover,

        Facts in the studio. sure remember by heart, preferably with quotes,

        Quote: voveim
        On the backfill the question: will at least one "Merkava" move if the Americans do not supply spare parts for the engine? Whose engines were on "Kfirs"?

        Well ? This does not mean. that they got it for free. or do you think 3 billion - separately, spare parts separately? You read poorly, eat better Syrian orange - from cover to cover

        Quote: voveim
        And so it is possible to drive through the entire line of "Israeli technologies" ...

        Drive through. including UAVs that were purchased in Russia

        Quote: voveim
        1. A flag is in your hands with a star of David and a drum with it on your neck! Sit on the priest evenly, rejoice.

        The flag we have is of course with the star of David.
        Why sit still. we’ll work, next year our GDP will grow (planned) 2.5% less of course than in the past. but ... how much is in Russia?

        Quote: voveim
        2. If there were fewer oligarchs in Russia and not all of them were Abramovichs and Vekselbergs, then you would also see more per capita GDP.

        D.U.R.E.N. Dumka gets richer.
        It’s necessary to work - and you will succeed.
        Of course, not right away, it will take us to catch up with GDP per capita ...., well, in general I think that neither you nor I will have to live in this wonderful time. yes

        Quote: voveim
        Have you read the book of Colonel Kvachkov? There it is written about it.

        Is that the one in jail?
        1. voveim
          voveim April 26 2014 16: 00
          +2
          Facts in the studio. sure by heart remember preferably with quotes,
          Look at your fellow tribesman, it says there.
          eat better Syrian orange - from cover to cover
          Yes, and you do not choke matzo ...

          Is that the one in jail?
          Lenin and Stalin were also in prison.
        2. voveim
          voveim April 27 2014 06: 41
          0
          including UAVs that were purchased in Russia
          But for this alone Serdyukov-Stool had to be hidden for life!

          D.U.R.E.N. Dumka gets richer.
          Did this thought come to you when you looked in the mirror?
          And do not poke at me, I didn’t pass rams with you and didn’t knock on the wall with a weeping head!
      2. Professor
        Professor April 26 2014 14: 50
        -11%
        Quote: voveim
        About 3 billion a year - it's you who ride on your grandmother's ears!

        Facts in the studio, you read our.
        1. voveim
          voveim April 26 2014 15: 47
          +10
          Yes please!
          "The governments of the United States and Israel have signed a new agreement on military assistance, which involves an increase in funding from Washington. Under the new agreement, Tel Aviv will be allocated $ 2018 billion from 2027 to 40. This agreement will enter into force immediately after the end of the current document (in 2017 The transfer of funds will be made under the Foreign Military Funding (FMF) program. In the period from 1998 to 2007, Israel received an average of 2,9 - 3,1 billion dollars annually under this program, and for the period from 2008 By 2017, an agreement was reached to increase this amount to $ 3,5 - 3,75 billion. In addition, Barack Obama approved additional funding for the Iron Dome missile defense program, in 2013, $ 200 million will be allocated from the US budget for this. dollars (in 2012 - 265 million dollars). The US Congress does not exclude that in 2014-2015 another 600 million dollars may be transferred to the creation of a missile defense system in Tel Aviv.
          Foreign analysts note that the actual amount of American aid to Israel is unknown, since the amount of funding, services and supplies of military equipment are disclosed only for the FMF and DSC programs (direct arms sales). Funding, including for military purposes, is also provided to Israel through the assistance programs of the US State Department. "
          Are you satisfied? This is from the May issue of "ZVO" for the last year. The author of the article is A. Aronov (interesting, isn't it?). And I can also squeeze about how your generals bargained with the American Uncle Sam because of the F-35 Lightnings, by God, almost a tear burst: we are so poor, so poor ...
          But to be honest, I liked another article more about suicides in the Israeli army. It’s a pity that a little. In the sense - the article is small, some dry facts. So contact, if that. On this topic - I always talk with pleasure, you are my near-scientific!
          1. atalef
            atalef April 26 2014 15: 55
            -8
            Quote: voveim
            Are you satisfied? This is from the May issue of "ZVO" for the last year

            This radically changed the numbers laughing
            The difference between 3 billion and 3.75 billion (in relation to 301 billion) of Israeli GDP - that is, 1% or 1.3% - well, what kind of money is it. laughing

            Quote: voveim
            But to be honest, I liked another article more about suicides in the Israeli army. It is a pity that a little.

            Yes . not to catch up with the Russian.

            Quote: voveim
            So contact, if that. On this topic - I always talk with pleasure, you are my near-scientific!

            I made fun, drove through. laughing
            1. voveim
              voveim April 26 2014 16: 35
              +3
              The difference between 3 billion and 3.75 billion (in relation to 301 billion) of Israeli GDP - that is, 1% or 1.3% - well, what kind of money is it.
              Well, yes, especially if the grandmas are freebies ... You have royal habits in Israel, however!
              Of course, you forgot about other facts, especially about the last paragraph. And it was there that the dog fumbled. So I will allow myself to remind: "Foreign analysts note that the actual amount of American aid to Israel is unknown, since the amount of funding, services and supplies of military equipment are disclosed only for the FMF and DSC programs (direct sales of weapons Funding, including for military purposes, is also provided to Israel through the assistance programs of the US State Department. "
              Therefore, I repeat, solely to refresh your near-scientific memory: "About 3 billion a year - you are driving your grandmother over the ears!"
              And then, why did they immediately "pass"? You demanded facts - I have them! And more. So see you again, professor!
              1. Professor
                Professor April 26 2014 19: 12
                -4
                Quote: voveim
                And then, why did they immediately "pass"? You demanded facts - I have them! And more. So see you again, professor!

                And where are they? Keep it for yourself and do not want to share with us? laughing
                1. voveim
                  voveim April 27 2014 06: 24
                  +1
                  But at least from the past. "According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, in the first decade of December 1, US President George W. Bush approved the provision of a one-time defense aid to Israel in the amount of $ 1992 billion. In addition, the Bush administration announced its decision to donate 1,8 military Apache helicopters, 25 Black Hawk helicopters, and 10 Patriot interceptors in a move called "the best New Year gift for Rabin and Israel" by Israeli media.
                  And this note was printed in the "Jewish newspaper", No. 20 (84) for 1992.
                  Key words: "one-time military aid" (that is, on top of the usual 3 billion) and "donate". Another portion of freebies, in a word ...
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi April 26 2014 19: 46
                -3
                Quote: voveim
                .
                Well, yes, especially if the grandmas are freebies ... Royal habits you have there in Israel, however !!

                Israel is a strategic ally of the United States in BV. The Americans felt that it was cheaper to deploy military equipment and strategic materials for a certain amount to maintain the high combat effectiveness of the IDF than to deploy a military base with us and deploy a military contingent.
    2. Fin
      Fin April 26 2014 16: 17
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      Russia, whose per capita income was estimated at 12,7 thousand dollars, is at 72 place, between Croatia and Poland

      What time is it? Open your Wikipedia and read, according to the IMF: Israel 2012 26th place - 32312, Russia 55th place - $ 17709. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%EF%E8%F1%EE%EA_%F1%F2%F0%E0%ED_%EF%EE_%C
      2%C2%CF_(%CF%CF%D1)_%ED%E0_%E4%F3%F8%F3_%ED%E0%F1%E5%EB%E5%ED%E8%FF
      It doesn’t seem like big jumps for the year: Israel + 5 thousand RF - 5 thousand? Where, whose machinations?
      1. Professor
        Professor April 26 2014 16: 30
        -2
        https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.h
        tml? countryname = Russia & countrycode = rs®ionCode = cas & rank = 77 # rs


        Materiel, per capita income:
        Russia 77th place
        $ 18,100 (2013 est.)
        $ 17,800 (2012 est.)
        $ 17,100 (2011 est.)

        Israel 40th place:
        $ 34,900 (2013 est.)
        $ 34,300 (2012 est.)
        $ 34,000 (2011 est.)

        PS
        take an interest in average life expectancy.
        1. Fin
          Fin April 26 2014 16: 46
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Materiel, per capita income:

          Thank you professor. There are many sources. Somehow it doesn't work 3 times. And your compatriot is not sure what is guided by - "linden" is spreading.
          1. Professor
            Professor April 26 2014 19: 17
            -6
            Quote: Fin
            3 times somehow does not work.

            Yes, and 2 times too much, taking into account Russian minerals. request
          2. their
            their April 26 2014 23: 44
            +3
            According to the old manual works. The fact is that in Israel this is an absolutely inflated GDP, which does not reflect the level of the majority of the population. Since the economy in Israel is privatized at 80% and is in the hands of the oligarchy.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi April 27 2014 00: 11
              0
              Quote: sus
              According to the old manual works. The fact is that in Israel this is an absolutely inflated GDP, which does not reflect the level of the majority of the population. Since the economy in Israel is privatized at 80% and is in the hands of the oligarchy.

              in the hands of a private business, you want to say. Well, here comes the result.
    3. Turkir
      Turkir April 27 2014 11: 14
      +2
      And will Israel be friendly if yours from Ukraine and Russia run away to you, all? We will see.
      1. Professor
        Professor April 27 2014 11: 36
        -3
        Quote: Turkir
        And will Israel be friendly if yours from Ukraine and Russia run away to you, all? We will see.

        She does it for the first time. A million repatriates were accepted 20 years ago, and 250-300 thousand will also be accepted.
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    1. f.lourens
      f.lourens April 26 2014 11: 08
      +1
      I completely agree with you ... but insulting the forum participants is NOT GOOD .. sorry minus hi
  • f.lourens
    f.lourens April 26 2014 10: 57
    +11
    We are writing off our debts to whomever we want ... in Syria, the situation is very difficult, but nevertheless they expressed their gratitude for the help ... but your native Israel told whom thank you ??? ... minus you hi
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  • W1950
    W1950 April 26 2014 11: 44
    +9
    Happiness is not in money, but also a professor. am
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 11: 48
      -16%
      Quote: W1950
      Happiness is not in money, but also a professor.

      that's for sure, but in their quantity laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 12: 19
      -13%
      Quote: W1950
      Happiness is not in money, but also a professor. am

      It's true. But 13 billion American rubles could go to medicine and the quality and life expectancy of Russians could be like in Israel, and this is already happiness.
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    1. Fin
      Fin April 26 2014 17: 39
      0
      Quote: Sanya Beach
      It is sad that such people have the opportunity to splash out their rotting scum on sound people.

      Sanya, if you want to listen only to what is good for hearing, you don’t accept criticism and other opinions, that is, there are many sites for cheering patriots.
      And there is also such a term as blindness - a limited point of view, reluctance to see facts contradicting it and listen to reasonable arguments. I hope this does not apply to you.
  • Walking
    Walking April 26 2014 13: 30
    +13
    Jews do not understand what can be done for just thanks without a cash-deal.
  • Horst78
    Horst78 April 26 2014 13: 45
    +9
    You professor all measured money. I feel sorry for you crying
  • dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov April 26 2014 13: 50
    +10
    Quote: Professor
    20 tons of orange?

    Dear professor, you are certainly a wonderful scientist, how fast you figured out the cost of an orange!
    That's just the knowledge of arithmetic does not make a person a man!
    Think about it with your incomparable brain!
    1. 2log
      2log April 26 2014 15: 12
      +3
      Quote: dmitriygorshkov

      Dear professor, you are certainly a wonderful scientist, how fast you figured out the cost of an orange!
      That's just the knowledge of arithmetic does not make a person a man!
      Think about it with your incomparable brain!

      Do not teach his conscience, he writes here for a salary.
  • 2log
    2log April 26 2014 15: 05
    0
    Quote: Professor

    Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world. Half a million dollars per kilogram or $ 20 per orange. good

    Check who knows the IP of this professor. It seems to me he is scribbling straight from the CIA, and not from Israel.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 15: 08
      -5
      Quote: 2Log
      It seems to me he is scribbling straight from the CIA, and not from Israel.


      laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 15: 25
      +1
      Quote: 2Log
      Check who knows the IP of this professor. It seems to me he is scribbling straight from the CIA, and not from Israel.

      I’m writing from the Lubyanka and it’s necessary to shoot me in public. soldier
      1. teron
        teron April 26 2014 20: 26
        +3
        What a luxurious shit ... uh, an argument. I’m sitting here with a beer.
  • gandalf
    gandalf April 26 2014 20: 28
    +8
    Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world. Half a million dollars per kilogram or $ 20 per orange.


    I thought you were smarter ...
    Not everyone in this world measures money, unlike you.
    How much in dollars or shekels will you evaluate the life of your child, parents?
    How much is your "thank you"?

    The golden calf has eclipsed your mind. A similar thing has happened to your people ...
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 20: 41
      -5
      Quote: gandalf
      Not everyone in this world measures money, unlike you.
      How much in dollars or shekels will you evaluate the life of your child, parents?
      How much is your "thank you"?

      The life of my loved ones is priceless. And therefore, I know the value of money and their significance in life.
      Just need to build a girl out of school. Having money means well-being, wealth, health, and longevity. Billions of dollars thrown into the wind (donated to the Arabs) could raise the USSR / Russia medicine to a normal level and save the lives of tens of thousands of Russian children. And do not tell me that everything is in order with medicine in Russia. And the roads? How many people died due to their depressing condition? The money spent not on asad to put it in order would save tens of thousands more lives. Here you have the meaning of money in life.
      1. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket April 27 2014 04: 10
        +1
        The most regrettable is that as soon as normal roads began to be built, the number of accidents increased. Drive steel, such as a sneaker on the floor. And medicine over the past 10 years has improved a lot. This is in our outback. I’m talking about the region, now there are several honey centers, such as polyclinics of Russian Railways, and private ones are very good. So there is a change, even here, in Siberia. Even in our small town, premature babies are now nursed. So no need to tell, you say? Just take a word. I lived in one city and in 90 and now live, so info can be said online.
        PS So that there is no misunderstanding I live in the Irkutsk region.hi
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt April 27 2014 15: 46
          +1
          Well, I'm from Siberia. In my city, getting a doctor’s voucher is generally unrealistic. So what? What has improved? In fact, everything is paid.
    2. their
      their April 26 2014 23: 47
      0
      Quote: gandalf
      Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world. Half a million dollars per kilogram or $ 20 per orange.


      I thought you were smarter ...
      Not everyone in this world measures money, unlike you.
      How much in dollars or shekels will you evaluate the life of your child, parents?
      How much is your "thank you"?

      The golden calf has eclipsed your mind. A similar thing has happened to your people ...


      This is unfortunately a scourge of this people, a serious vice.
  • Professor
    Professor April 27 2014 07: 59
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Tomorrow I will specially take a picture and show a photo of what value oranges in BV are of.

    As promised, I post a photo of such a valuable citrus product:

    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 27 2014 18: 20
      +2
      I remember one person got a job with us, who left the Urals from the city of Zlatoust (from a good life). So, when he saw the racks lying on the road, he was stunned: “Well, you southerners and zazhralis!” Rostov-on-Don.
  • The point
    The point April 27 2014 11: 21
    0
    you look, and put on your glasses! Associate Professor, do not be rude!
  • skifd
    skifd April 27 2014 12: 22
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange.


    Yes, what can I say ... You, "professor" need to edit the nickname. The language should show the "wallet", which constantly replaces the "head" for you. And you put Albert in there.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 27 2014 12: 26
      -2
      Quote: skifd
      The language should show the "wallet", which constantly replaces the "head" for you.

      You tell veterans about the wallet who have been waiting for apartments from the state for 60 years and who cannot cure sick children because there is no money for modern equipment and medicines. Instead of medicines and tomographs, you give them an orange.
      1. skifd
        skifd April 27 2014 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        You tell veterans about the wallet who have been waiting for apartments from the state for 60 years and who cannot cure sick children because there is no money for modern equipment and medicines. Instead of medicines and tomographs, you give them an orange.


        Well, damn it, what a concern for our veterans. But I don’t believe that you are so imbued with them. At the heart of your posts is the desire to spoil the topics, and a lot of hypocrisy (+ arrogance, you are our "chosen one"). Nothing more worthwhile.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 27 2014 12: 46
          -3
          Quote: skifd
          Well, damn it, what a concern for our veterans

          Veterans they are not yours or ours, they are our common. Tell them that there is no money for apartments for them, and happiness is not in money ...
          1. skifd
            skifd April 27 2014 12: 52
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            and happiness is not in money ...


            Do I hear you ????? And what do you constantly rub for them ???????
            1. Professor
              Professor April 27 2014 13: 38
              -1
              Quote: skifd
              Do I hear you ????? And what do you constantly rub for them ???????

              Hear but don’t understand. Money is not a goal, but a means. A means to make someone's life better, or even save a life. For those donated 10 billions, many lives could be saved, very many. Is it more intelligible?
              1. skifd
                skifd April 27 2014 14: 06
                +3
                Quote: Professor
                Hear but don’t understand. Money is not a goal, but a means. A means to make someone's life better, or even save a life. For those donated 10 billions, many lives could be saved, very many. Is it more intelligible?


                Bl ... yn, I immediately felt ashamed of all the unfounded accusations ... I'm going to nominate you for the Nobel Prize. Or I'll hang myself with shame. I offend such a "human being" by misunderstanding. repeat

                But seriously, do not bother. In your posts there is more bile and hypocrisy than real participation. So to hell with your flimsy pathos.
  • Setrac
    Setrac April 27 2014 14: 43
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    20 tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off Syria a debt of 10 billion dollars, and in thanks to the Syrian regime gave 20 tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world.

    If it weren’t for Syria, all these militants would have been in Ukraine and Russia would have spent tens of times more of Syria’s debt, so we won’t borrow and write off if necessary.
  • dimitris
    dimitris April 26 2014 09: 40
    +10
    Thank you very much! May God grant you courage and patience!
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak April 26 2014 09: 43
    +18
    Wow! This gift is worth a lot! From a warring, ruined country, 20 tons of oranges. No arms supplies can be compared. I hope the peace comes soon for the Syrians. And we will also restore the infrastructure for them, such a neighbor must be protected.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 10: 58
      -27%
      Quote: Wedmak
      Wow! This gift is worth a lot! From a warring, ruined country, 20 tons of oranges

      Well, they could, and give more. All the same, ships go to Tartus all the time. why not supply oranges to Russia and thereby at least partially pay off debts?
      Believe me, oranges on BV, that the cones in the Russian forest lie on the ground
      In Israel, they even feed pigs (which is probably why fat is not so tasty) negative
      1. ultra
        ultra April 26 2014 11: 48
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        . All the same, ships go to Tartus all the time. why not supply oranges

        This is exactly what is happening. My acquaintances had an urgent son at the BDK, they brought fruit back there, they just don’t show it on TV, but then there was a plane with a humane, they told about oranges.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 11: 56
          -12%
          Quote: ultra
          At acquaintances the son at the BDK served urgent, weapons are brought back there fruit

          You see now . Not so bad.

          Quote: ultra
          it’s just not shown on TV

          And why ? Great story for Anna News
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 12: 41
        +14
        Quote: atalef
        In Israel, they even feed pigs (which is probably why fat is not so tasty)

        Hello, levoslav! hi Weak to organize deliveries to the former homeland? Or do not the Orthodox understand the help of the Goyim? laughing
        P.S. Isn't pork kosher? Or, after oranges, does it somehow change its property (in a religious sense)? lol
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 12: 46
          -10%
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Hello, levoslav!

          And you can't get sick hi

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Weak to organize deliveries to the former homeland?

          I do not want to occupy a Syrian niche. laughing

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Or do not the Orthodox understand the help of the Goyim?

          Is a goy with a capital letter a megalomania? laughing

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          P.S. Isn't pork kosher? Or after oranges, she somehow changes her property (in a religious sense)

          Why kind of? after oranges, apparently all the properties change laughing
          Here we have received 20 tons and it’s already good. all debts are forgiven
          It is a pity that oranges do not grow in Ukraine. Maybe they would be forgiven laughing
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 12: 58
            +9
            Quote: atalef
            I do not want to occupy a Syrian niche

            Don’t take it, we have a lot of mouths!
            Quote: atalef
            Is a goy with a capital letter a megalomania?

            Of course! (I'm down there Jew I wrote with a little one. Conspirology with Kabbalism)laughing
            Quote: atalef
            Why kind of? after oranges, apparently all the properties change

            If they lie down for a couple of weeks, then of course, the monkeys even "thump" them. laughing
            Quote: atalef
            It is a pity that oranges do not grow in Ukraine. Maybe they would be forgiven
            It is a pity that Germany does not grow, otherwise they are already tired of paying your debts. wassat
            1. atalef
              atalef April 26 2014 13: 07
              -8
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Don’t take it, we have a lot of mouths!

              Well then send letters of credit. how many tons to send? Where ?

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Of course! (I wrote a Jew there below with a little one. Conspirology with Kabbalism)

              why a Jew with a big one. Here are some Zulus of some 100 million. and who knows about them, but there are 10 million of us, but they count. that we rule the world
              Therefore, it is possible with a small one, it will not disappear from us laughing

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              If they lie down for a couple of weeks, then of course, the monkeys even "thump" them

              Well, you know better laughing

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              It is a pity that Germany does not grow, otherwise they are already tired of paying your debts.

              We will support them with other vitamins so that we don’t get tired. laughing
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 16
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                Well then send letters of credit. how many tons to send? Where ?
                Strange generosity for a Jew! belay
                Quote: atalef
                why a Jew with a big one. Here are some Zulus of some 100 million. and who knows about them, but there are 10 million of us, but they count. that we rule the world
                Therefore it’s possible with a little one, laughing will not leave us

                I take off my hat in front of your modesty (And insolence too-A stupid penguin is timidly hidden, a cunning one - arrogantly annoying!) hi
                Quote: atalef
                Well, you know better laughing

                As you have already noticed, oranges do not grow here, we consume more and more products of distillation of grain crops. And here you have ... laughing
                Quote: atalef
                We will support them with other vitamins so that we don’t get tired

                Cynical, but funny. good
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 13: 20
                  +7
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Strange generosity for a Jew!

                  Igor, do you have skype, if you come in and look at this Jewish face wassat
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 28
                    +7
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Igor, do you have skype, if you come in and look at this Jewish face

                    No, no. But he’s still a prankster, I would have drunk with him. drinks And in the morning I would sell him beer! wassat
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 13: 41
                      +3
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      No, no. But he’s still a prankster, I would have drunk with him.

                      Georgian skype drinks and then he soon dumps in Cyprus on some sort of cargo ship laughing
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And in the morning I would sell him beer!

                      Sell ​​him cigarettes, they have expensive ones. And beer, but he has a bar full of expensive alcohol, hell’s beer for him. But you can put laden cognac bully
                      1. atalef
                        atalef April 26 2014 14: 02
                        -8
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Georgia skyp pooh and then he soon dumps in Cyprus on some sort of bulk carrier

                        You yourself - DRY LOAD - damn it. wassat
                        Say more in the hold with oranges laughing
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        But you can put in a log of brandy

                        Alexander . Well fuck me. Corvoisier, 50 bucks 0.75-- a penny. there’s nothing to talk about.
                        Here are cigarettes - yes a problem. Almost 10 bucks a day. crying
                      2. ultra
                        ultra April 26 2014 14: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        . Corvoisier, 50 bucks 0.75

                        What seriously? belay I would take a dozen bottles for trial! drinks
                      3. atalef
                        atalef April 26 2014 14: 30
                        0
                        Quote: ultra
                        Quote: atalef
                        . Corvoisier, 50 bucks 0.75

                        What seriously? belay I would take a dozen bottles for trial! drinks

                        Come on, Ein and Mifrats. The Hermitage store (it's near Acre), for a member of the club - even cheaper.
                      4. teron
                        teron April 26 2014 20: 33
                        +1
                        I would go to Israel to see what and how. And I would go to Syria, but there is still war. Land of the Crusades! History in every stone! Only the money is dumb. That is, they seem to be there, but always something very necessary must be acquired on them. And so, of course - the south, the sea - beauty!
                      5. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 23: 41
                        0
                        Quote: teron
                        I would go to Israel to see what and how.

                        It is possible through Egypt, on a burning permit, and there on a tour. Last year I went for two weeks, 40000 rubles for two, 4 stars - a freebie.
                      6. teron
                        teron April 27 2014 11: 06
                        0
                        Yes, it would be possible to Egypt too. How is it now, calmly?
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 14: 48
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Say more in the hold with oranges

                Himself said, the vessel is rusty, to sail away from the pier laughing
                Quote: atalef
                Here are cigarettes - yes a problem. Almost 10 bucks a day

                I tell you, give the address, we will do business. let's start with three blocks, and there wassat
              3. atalef
                atalef April 26 2014 14: 55
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Himself said, the vessel is rusty, to sail away from the pier

                Sanya. Does it repair you so buggy? laughing
                I remember when they did the repair, the same sausage

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I tell you, give the address, we will do business. let's start with three blocks, and there

                good
              4. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 14: 57
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                I remember when they did the repair, the same sausage

                Nitra, the moment will do the trick laughing
              5. atalef
                atalef April 26 2014 15: 05
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Nitra, the moment will do the trick

                And what a moment you glue? Linoleum?
              6. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 15: 12
                0
                Quote: atalef
                And what a moment you glue? Linoleum?

                Nothing is what I said request
  • atalef
    atalef April 26 2014 13: 59
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    No, no. But he’s still a prankster, I would have drunk with him. And in the morning I would sell him beer!

    I wouldn’t sell it. if I had puffed. I would know - I DO NOT DRINK BEER. request
    1. teron
      teron April 26 2014 20: 35
      0
      Completely in vain!
  • atalef
    atalef April 26 2014 13: 35
    -3
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Strange generosity for a Jew!

    It’s possible with a small letter, be simpler
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Hats off to your modesty (

    nothing

    Quote: Ingvar 72
    As you have already noticed, oranges do not grow here, we consume more and more products of distillation of grain crops. And here you have

    but with us. Absolute is cheaper than yours.
    Like Corvoisier and the rest. so what to whom.
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Cynical but funny

    Labor liberates - their slogan, let them work
    Two Jewish friends decided to leave Russia. Abrash pulled on
    historical, izia in vaterland. A year later, they call up:
    - Abrash, how are you?
    “Izzy, you cannot imagine how good it is here in Israel!” I have a network of mine
    shops. I was so lucky that I left. How are you, Izzy?
    “Abrash, you have no idea how lucky I am!” I work in a crematorium -
    I burn the Germans!
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 13: 19
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Well then send letters of credit. how many tons to send? Where ?

    Che Sanya, you distribute the loot laughing
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 25
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Che Sanya, give out the loot laughing

      No, promises. But the promises given by Goya are not necessary to be fulfilled. laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef April 26 2014 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        No, promises. But the promises given by Goya are not necessary to be fulfilled.

        Yes . Igoryanich. with oranges, we do not seem to grow together laughing
    2. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 13: 36
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Che Sanya, you distribute the loot

      Save money - don’t spare wassat (old Jewish wisdom) laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 13: 43
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Save money - don’t spare

        Throw Ponty Sori money (modern Russian everyday life) wassat
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 14: 06
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Throw Ponty Sori money (modern Russian everyday life)

          Resting Russian, American and Frenchman on the island for millionaires. go into the bar, there the busty waitress tells them: we have the most expensive bar and if you don’t have enough money to reunite, we will cut off your dick.
          the Frenchman drinks a bottle of wine, there is not enough money, a member is chopped off.
          American drinks a bottle of whiskey-money is not enough, chopped off a member.
          Russian ordered a box of vodka, then a box of beer. drinks, goes to the bar and puts a member on the rack.
          shall we chop? ”the bartender asked.
          Let's suck, dough - not measured!
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  • siberalt
    siberalt April 27 2014 16: 08
    +2
    Bravo! Normal dispute. There are not enough of them on the forum. But let's not "fight". Hundreds of cons and zero arguments. Well, you can't do that! And where does the oranges vashsche? Well, they loaded an empty board into the "return line" from humanitarian aid, so what? What does the Syrian suffering have to do with it? It's not about oranges, but about the attitude of those Syrians who loaded them on board towards Russia. This is from ordinary people. And thanks to them for that!
  • Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson April 26 2014 12: 48
    0
    Well, they could, and give more.

    This is kakbe folk help. At state levels, their own calculations.
  • their
    their April 26 2014 23: 49
    0
    By the way, maybe your oranges in the Russian Federation will no longer buy under the guise of Moroccan, Egyptian ...

    You can arrange a flash mob and expose your desk :)
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 27 2014 00: 13
      0
      Quote: sus
      By the way, maybe your oranges in the Russian Federation will no longer buy under the guise of Moroccan, Egyptian ...
      You can arrange a flash mob and expose your desk :)

      I will disappoint you, but in Israel, 10 years have reduced the area of ​​citrus fruits. They are increasingly pushing for exotics.
  • Naata
    Naata April 26 2014 09: 45
    +5
    The USA and the West have already hesitated everyone! how much you can quietly create, still hide behind humanity!
  • Cristall
    Cristall April 26 2014 09: 48
    +10
    for some reason I'm not surprised by your post Professor
    recourse
    20 tons for a country devastated by civil war is a lot.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 10: 09
      -27%
      Quote: Cristall
      20 tons for a country devastated by civil war is a lot.

      Tomorrow I will take a picture for you oranges lying on the ground in High-tech Park and not needed by anyone. This is exotic for you, but here it’s like cones in a coniferous forest in Russia.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak April 26 2014 10: 35
        +12
        The fact is not that they are lying on the ground, but that despite the war, the devastation and economic sanctions, they were collected, packed and sent to where these oranges are needed. Thanks for the help. A trifle, only 20 tons, in Russia will not even notice this amount, but the fact of such a gesture is expensive.
        Given that few people support Russia and rarely anyone gives her gifts.
      2. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 26 2014 11: 12
        +10
        I still have not heard anywhere that Israel would give someone oranges .... think about it ... hi
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 11: 23
          -10%
          Quote: f.lourens
          I still have not heard anywhere that Israel would give someone oranges .... think about it ...

          During a tour along the border, he said that the IDF is providing humanitarian assistance to border villages, providing their residents with food and water.

          Ya'alon said that Israel cannot sit idly by in the face of the humanitarian crisis unfolding in front of it.

          Ya'alon said: "Since these villages are besieged and do not have access to other areas, we provide them with humanitarian assistance. We provide them with food, baby food, and other humanitarian assistance."

          This practice has been going on for several months. In addition, during the civil war in Syria, about 200 residents of the country received medical care in Israeli hospitals. According to the doctors of the Jewish state, they are ready to provide assistance to everyone who needs it.
          1. 0255
            0255 April 26 2014 13: 01
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: f.lourens
            I still have not heard anywhere that Israel would give someone oranges .... think about it ...

            During a tour along the border, he said that the IDF is providing humanitarian assistance to border villages, providing their residents with food and water.

            Ya'alon said that Israel cannot sit idly by in the face of the humanitarian crisis unfolding in front of it.

            Ya'alon said: "Since these villages are besieged and do not have access to other areas, we provide them with humanitarian assistance. We provide them with food, baby food, and other humanitarian assistance."

            This practice has been going on for several months. In addition, during the civil war in Syria, about 200 residents of the country received medical care in Israeli hospitals. According to the doctors of the Jewish state, they are ready to provide assistance to everyone who needs it.

            you never know what kind of noodles hang on our ears Israeli media negative
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      3. Alex 1977
        Alex 1977 April 26 2014 20: 01
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Cristall
        20 tons for a country devastated by civil war is a lot.

        Tomorrow I will take a picture for you oranges lying on the ground in High-tech Park and not needed by anyone. This is exotic for you, but here it’s like cones in a coniferous forest in Russia.

        On March 6, 1947, the adviser to the USSR Foreign Ministry, Boris Stein, handed over a note on the Palestinian issue to the First Deputy Foreign Minister, Andrei Vyshinsky.
        To date, the USSR has not formulated its position on the question of Palestine. The UK transfer of the question of Palestine to the discussion of the United Nations presents an opportunity for the USSR for the first time not only to express its point of view on the question of Palestine, but also to take an effective part in the fate of Palestine. The Soviet Union cannot but support the demands of the Jews to create their own state in Palestine.
        Vyacheslav Molotov, and then Joseph Stalin agreed. On May 14, Andrei Gromyko, Permanent Representative of the USSR to the UN, voiced his Soviet position. At a special session of the General Assembly, he, in particular, said: “The Jewish people suffered extreme disasters and suffering in the last war. In the territory dominated by the Nazis, Jews underwent almost complete physical extermination - about six million people died. The fact that not a single Western European state was able to protect the elementary rights of the Jewish people and protect it from violence by fascist executioners explains the desire of the Jews to create their own state. It would be unfair to disregard this and deny the right of the Jewish people to realize such an aspiration.
        Since Stalin was determined to give his state to the Jews, it would be foolish to resist the United States! ” - concluded US President Harry Truman and instructed the "anti-Semitic" State Department to support the UN "Stalin initiative."

        How many kilograms of oranges lying around under your feet the grateful people of Israel sent to the Soviet Union, do not tell me?
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 20: 31
          -5
          Quote: Alexey 1977
          but also to take an effective part in the fate of Palestine

          Like little children. Imagine if Stalin decided not to support Israel in the UN vote. Britain brought this issue to the vote (not the USSR) since its mandate was ending and it dumped with the BV. And so Stalin voted against. So what? But nothing. By the time of voting, the state of Israel existed de facto.

          How many kilograms of oranges lying around under your feet the grateful people of Israel sent to the Soviet Union, do not tell me?

          Can you give you oranges for supporting the Arabs in the wars with Israel in 1956, 1967, 73, 82, now? Maybe for tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers"? We have enough orange for everyone.
  • andron72
    andron72 April 26 2014 09: 56
    +9
    You just need to dunk the amers. And everything will be in openwork. angry
  • Papabear
    Papabear April 26 2014 10: 08
    +9
    And where is the wonderful Syrian sweet cherry? Give the cherries!
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 11: 01
      -8
      Quote: PapaBear
      And where is the wonderful Syrian sweet cherry? Give the cherries!

      but they eat cherries themselves, by the way, like Israeli apples
      laughing
      JERUSALEM / DAMASK - This year, Israel again allowed the export of apples from the Golan Heights to Syria. In the coming weeks, about twelve thousand tons of apples should be exported to this country hostile to Israel - this is the first time export has reached such volumes. The action is monitored by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).
      Export should begin this Tuesday. Apples were grown by Druze peasants. Their sale is a significant source of income for farmers, according to ICRC spokeswoman Marian Gasser. This year a record volume of twelve thousand tons will be exported. “This is three times more than in 2005, when the ICRC first organized such an action,” Gasser explained.

      Export is an extremely sensitive issue. It requires costly cooperation between the Syrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Israeli Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Defense, Finance and Agriculture.

      The Golan Heights were conquered by Israel during the Six Day War of 1967. Syria is demanding the return of this territory. The Druze people living in the Golan are Israeli citizens, but many consider themselves to be citizens of Syria, where their relatives live. Since Israel has too many apples and too few consumers for them, the Israeli Ministry of Agriculture proposed several years ago to export surplus apples from the Golan Heights to Syria. The neighboring Arab state agreed to participate in this business.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 12: 46
        +8
        Quote: atalef
        but they eat cherries themselves, by the way, like Israeli apples

        Is this the kind of Jewish mockery of the Syrians or something? Deliver them apples from the territories seized from them? am Cabbalism.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 12: 56
          -9
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Is this the kind of Jewish mockery of the Syrians or something? Deliver apples to them from territories seized from them

          So these are the Druze, who consider themselves Syrians.
          Although in general it is no different from the sale of Kaliningrad amber -Germany laughing

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Cabbalism.

          Cabalism is a little different.
          Although I agree - the word is beautiful.
          Do you want to tie a red thread on your hand?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 08
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Although in general it is no different from the sale of Kaliningrad amber -Germany

            Prussia - before the Slavs lived there. And it was necessary to somehow compensate for the damage that was done to us. Do not compare with the Israeli capture of Gollan, the scale is too incomparable (Israel has not lost more than it gained).
            Quote: atalef
            Do you want to tie a red thread on your hand?

            Nah, I don't want to. Better St. George ribbon!
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              1. 0255
                0255 April 26 2014 21: 06
                +1
                Atalef, do not call the person a goyim!
  • Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 26 2014 10: 14
    +9
    thank you gesture .... thank you
  • kodxnumx
    kodxnumx April 26 2014 10: 15
    +6
    it is necessary to supply Syria with weapons at the moment, it would not be amiss to supply the Syrian army with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and bmd that are in reserve, of course, this is not an up-to-date equipment with us, but now the main thing is to restore the potential of armored vehicles, freezing will help Syria, missiles in general, they need to supply arms to the end of the line, we may have problems in Ukraine soon to start, and the United States can take advantage of this, I think the c-300 installations taken in Crimea should be sent to Syria, a huge barge loaded into. escorted by the Navy of RUSSIA to be sent to Syria, it is possible to deliver armored vehicles and aircraft, and anti-aircraft mounts at a time, not our functions apply to Syria, but we have no Western relations with them!
  • Msta-s
    Msta-s April 26 2014 10: 17
    +11
    It is not what and how much that matters, but the fact itself. "All that I can, all that I can" (c)
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 11: 03
      -10%
      Quote: Msta-s
      It is not what and how much that matters, but the fact itself. "All that I can, all that I can" (c)

      Assad's shitty business then. if that's all it can. Apparently the old debts were written off and you have to forget about the new ones
      1. ultra
        ultra April 26 2014 11: 51
        +7
        Quote: atalef
        . Apparently the old debts were written off and you have to forget about the new ones

        What’s the matter for you? It seems that Israel is not giving money, but Russia.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 11: 57
          -9
          Quote: ultra
          What’s the matter for you? It seems that Israel is not giving money, but Russia.

          So what ? it does not give me the right to comment? As a citizen of Russia laughing
          1. ultra
            ultra April 26 2014 13: 42
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            As a citizen of Russia

            Oh guys, you will get confused with your numerous "citizenships"! bully
          2. ultra
            ultra April 26 2014 13: 44
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            it does not give me the right to comment

            No questions! You have every right, we have freedom of speech.
        2. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 12: 14
          -7
          Quote: ultra
          What’s the matter for you? It seems that Israel is not giving money, but Russia.

          Where modern Russia is doing its current money is not my business, but as for the debts of the USSR, it is my business.
          1. Net
            Net April 26 2014 12: 39
            +5
            Speaking of debts, have you already returned the gold to the Egyptians from whom the Jews simply stole it according to the behests of your Bga, escaping from the overwhelming "captivity"?
            1. Kus Imak
              Kus Imak April 26 2014 14: 53
              +4
              Quote: Netto
              Speaking of debts, have you already returned the gold to the Egyptians from whom the Jews simply stole it according to the behests of your Bga, escaping from the overwhelming "captivity"?



              Those Egyptians have long been gone. Modern Egyptians are Arabs who came along with Muhammad in the 7th century A.D.
          2. ultra
            ultra April 26 2014 13: 42
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            as for the debts of the USSR, this is my business.

            Are you a citizen of Russia?
            1. Professor
              Professor April 26 2014 14: 56
              0
              Quote: ultra
              Are you a citizen of Russia?

              No, I am a former citizen of the USSR.
          3. gandalf
            gandalf April 26 2014 21: 16
            +3
            Where modern Russia is doing its current money is not my business, but as for the debts of the USSR, it is my business.


            Do not show us your payments, for which you paid part of the Soviet / Russian debts to the Paris Club, for example?
            If you don’t have your payments, then it’s not your business.
          4. ultra
            ultra April 27 2014 21: 42
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            as for the debts of the USSR, this is my business.

            Since Russia is the legal successor of the USSR, it assumed obligations for Soviet debts and, accordingly, the assets of the USSR also went to it. And all the almost irrecoverable debts of former Soviet "friends" too. So if you are not a citizen of Russia, you are flying. laughing
          5. Msta-s
            Msta-s April 28 2014 19: 54
            +2
            And what do you care about the debts of the USSR. If it `s not a secret?
  • miha.ru
    miha.ru April 26 2014 10: 19
    +5
    what can I say, MANY THANKS, I hope Russia will respond to this gesture of kindness with an even greater gesture
  • kondor-espada
    kondor-espada April 26 2014 10: 22
    +12
    Well done all the same, the Syrians. That's just nice - that the people of Syria collected these oranges and sent them to our children.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 26 2014 10: 31
    +6
    Thank you Syrians. Victory to you soon. We will help than we can.
  • teron
    teron April 26 2014 10: 36
    +13
    The article is not entirely about oranges. It is about our Western "partners". For more than twenty years there has been no USSR, there are no communists in power in Russia. But the attitude towards us and the countries friendly to us is the same. The point is not at all about the Bolsheviks, the USSR and Stalin. It's all about Russia itself. We are enemy number 1 for the West. They will never stop what we call the Cold War. And in terms of the degree of sophistication, deceit, lack of principle, cunning and soulless pragmatism, the ruling circles of the United States and the European Union will leave Hitler and his henchmen far behind.
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 April 26 2014 10: 41
    +7
    Well done Syrians, at such a moment for the country. It's a pity I do not see their citruses in our stores, I would support the ruble.
  • Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 April 26 2014 10: 47
    +7
    The Syrians were the first to oppose American aggression. They will come out stronger from this war. Well, we need to help, than we can, to restore the country's economy.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 April 26 2014 10: 57
    +7
    In the moral sense, the price of these oranges is gold. Thanks Syria! In the help - we will not refuse!
  • Chemicalin23
    Chemicalin23 April 26 2014 11: 27
    +3
    Very touching gesture. Thank you Syrians! While we are together, no enemy is afraid of us. hi
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 26 2014 11: 31
    +4
    Syria needs to be supported, possibly right up to military assistance. Not so many of us have left sozznikov in the Middle East.
    I’m not talking about democracy, war crimes consciously, this crap for extremely uneducated people. That is not the point, not that at all.
    Anyone who wants to object is ready to answer BUT after a detailed answer on Libya, Iraq, Egypt, and Pakistan.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 11: 37
      -11%
      Quote: silberwolf88
      Not so many of us have left sozznikov in the Middle East.

      Enlighten pliz, in what allied relations of Syria are expressed. In Assad's swagger? The Soviet military died for Syria, the USSR provided billions of dollars in gratuitous economic aid, but what did the "ally" Syria do for the USSR / Russia? She did not even place a military base on its territory. request
      Oh yes, oranges ...
      1. ultra
        ultra April 26 2014 11: 52
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        Enlighten pliz, in which Syria's allied relations are expressed.

        I think in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Moscow Region that they’re not stupid people and they know better what these relations are expressed in.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 12: 21
          -4
          Quote: ultra
          I think in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Moscow Region that they’re not stupid people and they know better what these relations are expressed in.

          Allied relations mean mutually beneficial relations. What did Syria do for the USSR or Russia? An elementary question to which I can not find the answer.

          PS
          1. teron
            teron April 26 2014 20: 16
            +3
            It's not about what Syria can give us. We just called ourselves friends of the Syrians and stood up for them before the rest of the world community. And they stood to the end. Russia has slightly spoiled its good name over the past decades, draining some of its, well, if not allies, then friendly countries. The question is not about the "rebels" in the SAR. The question is in us, in Russia. The Syrian crisis is a test for us.
            Well, then it is not known how things will turn out. you look and the Syrians come in handy. For example, to establish contacts with the same Israel, by normalizing bilateral agreements between the SAR and Israel, where the Russian Federation can affect the Syrians.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 26 2014 11: 43
    +11
    Quote: PValery53
    In the moral sense, the price of these oranges is gold. Thanks Syria! In the help - we will not refuse!

    I agree! And, summarizing all of the above, I will add only that the comments from Israel, from the "former" ones, are not at all surprising. What, gentlemen, who left, ran away, does the toad haunt? Well, how is your former country friends with your enemy. Eh, I'm sorry for you, so you didn't understand anything, and apparently you won't understand ... And therefore, I wish you Moses to take you for a walk for another forty years, to get some air. Best regards from St. Petersburg.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 11: 52
      -13%
      Quote: Paranoid50
      And, summarizing all of the above, I will add only that the comments from Israel, from the "former" ones, are not at all surprising. What, gentlemen, who left, ran away, does the toad haunt?

      For 20 tons of oranges?
      laughing

      Quote: Paranoid50
      Well, well, your former country is friends with your enemy.

      Yes, she was always friends. nothing new

      Quote: Paranoid50
      Oh, I'm sorry for you, so you didn’t understand anything, and apparently you won’t understand ..

      where so to us.

      Quote: Paranoid50
      .And therefore I wish you Moses, so that he could take a walk for another forty years, aerate. Sincerely, from St. Petersburg.

      You would have Moses. maybe slaves would be squeezed out of themselves.
      Sincerely, from a former resident of Leningrad. hi
      1. Professor
        Professor April 26 2014 12: 24
        -11%
        Tomorrow I will be in Yokneam, just opposite your substation, Nanomotion. There on the asphalt heaps of orange, I take a picture. hi
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 12: 32
          -10%
          Quote: Professor
          Tomorrow I will be in Yokneam, just opposite your substation, Nanomotion. There on the asphalt heaps of orange, I take a picture.

          Yes, just behind our fence. oranges. grenades. fig and the rest crap. Collect everything from the ground, a couple of tons will be typed.
          hi
          1. sled beach
            sled beach April 26 2014 13: 11
            +4
            2 brothers ....
            1. 0255
              0255 April 26 2014 15: 09
              +4
              Quote: Sanya Beach
              2 brothers ....

              two distributors of shit democracy laughing
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2014 13: 34
        +8
        Quote: atalef
        You would have Moses. maybe slaves would be squeezed out of themselves

        As one clever Jew said, Moses, 40 years old, did not lead Jews through the desert so that two generations of people with a slavish mentality would die out, but in order that two generations of people would die out, remembering that in Egypt it was not so bad.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 14: 07
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          As one smart Jew said

          Well, thank God . there is at least one smart Jew. Although we have two opinions on two Jews. laughing
          1. old man 72
            old man 72 April 27 2014 00: 26
            +3
            You have three opinions on one Jew, so do not be discouraged !!!
        2. Net
          Net April 26 2014 21: 25
          +1
          That's right. It is enough to read the Old Testament to see what kind of slavery it was when the brother of his brother sold to Pharaoh and served in good office with him. Immediately attaching his fellow tribesmen to the warm places. Scheme worked out for centuries. I'm not talking about the many crimes to which God called His people. Kill, destroy, kill, and that’s all in relation to entire nations.
  • Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 April 26 2014 11: 45
    +11
    The country is in ruins, people are dying, a war is going on. And still they thought how to thank them. Perhaps they even collected these oranges under bullets. Roads are not a gift, expensive attention. Syria is our only ally in the Mediterranean. And what people do from the heart, that supporting Russia in the Crimea is invaluable. Such friends are not scattered. Such friends must be appreciated and respected.
  • asbaev
    asbaev April 26 2014 11: 49
    +4
    certainly not a very nice comparison, but I do not want to offend anyone. Just one thing came to mind. Comparison of people and dogs. Ukraine which considers itself super people. Help the man and he will betray you, help the dog and she will not betray you until the end of her days. Thanks Syrians.
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  • VL33
    VL33 April 26 2014 12: 08
    +7
    Why does Russia not buy oranges in Syria and all the products that they are ready to supply? That would be real support. This year or last year there was a rich harvest of citrus fruits in Syria. We have girer and supermarkets only Turkey Spain Morocco. I am ready to buy only Syrian and this is a real relief and my position! Probably networkers are pro-Western all. : (((
  • free
    free April 26 2014 12: 19
    +5
    Glory to free SYRIA!
  • tnship2
    tnship2 April 26 2014 12: 39
    +7
    Syria is the Bible land. Syrians are just no words what kind of heroes. They oppose half the world. They defend their right to live as they want.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 12: 48
      -8
      Quote: tnship2
      Syria Bible land.

      But from now on. if possible in more detail. so to whom did Syria belong in the bible?
      If possible with a reference.
      Nice to deal with an educated person laughing
      1. tnship2
        tnship2 April 26 2014 14: 33
        +1
        It is believed that in the Bible (see Genesis, X, 22) the Assyrian state is personified in the image of the grandson of Noah Assur (in Hebrew ASHUR or, without publicity, ASHR), from whom the Assyrians allegedly descended. This is simply because the people are very ancient . Despite everything exists and fights. (Taken from the site of the Empire. Biblical states of Mesopotamia.)
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 16: 25
          +2
          Quote: tnship2
          It is believed that in the Bible (see Genesis, X, 22) the Assyrian state is personified in the image of the grandson of Noah Assur (in Hebrew ASHUR or, without publicity, ASHR), from whom the Assyrians allegedly descended. This is simply because the people are very ancient . Despite everything exists and fights. (Taken from the site of the Empire. Biblical states of Mesopotamia.)

          actually where is Syria and where Assyria is a different compote
  • Impulsiver
    Impulsiver April 26 2014 12: 47
    +9
    Guys, how I hate this vile nation of Anglo-Saxons and these American bitches from the State Department! They do not have the right to be called people, these mysterious, bloodthirsty creatures, who sold the soul to the devil in the bud with all their fucking shobla! The long-suffering Syria, we are Russians, we will always be with you!
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 12: 59
      -15%
      Quote: Impulsiver
      Guys, how do i hate this vile Anglo-Saxon nation and these American bitches from the State Department! They have no right to be called people, these mysterious, bloodthirsty creatures, who sold the soul to the devil in the bud with all their fucking shobla!

      your brother ?
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 April 27 2014 17: 19
        +5
        Rather, it is your BROTHER, Mr. atalef (3) IL.
        It is your "brother" who sows grief to people around the world.
        In temporary power structures of Ukraine, Individuals calling to kill Russians, and directing to the SLAVS of the South-East of Ukraine, to their compatriots, military units and assassin-killers from the United States - are they not your representatives of the "chosen by God" ???
        It is you who hate all OTHER people, and on the planet here and there, unleash civil wars.
        so shut up modestly ...
  • Ah1ll
    Ah1ll April 26 2014 12: 53
    +5
    Mistaken! It’s just that people show that they are really grateful and ready to share the last in a difficult moment!
    1. sled beach
      sled beach April 26 2014 13: 17
      +4
      Yes, and a certain MRZ like "professors and atalef" corrupt pieces of the United States water everything with their insides, so to speak, fertilize the soil for the growth of liberals.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 26 2014 13: 43
        0
        Quote: Sanya Beach
        Yes, and a certain MRZ like "professors and atalef" sell pieces of the USA

        Why pieces? Prapor never been. Yes, and Oleg served in the Navy - there they’re calling like chests laughing
  • vinik1996
    vinik1996 April 26 2014 13: 00
    +5
    The Syrians sent oranges to our children, now we need to send something in return. Desirable something riding-crawling and shooting laughing . Thanks to the people of SYRIA!
    1. 0255
      0255 April 26 2014 16: 12
      +5
      something like that:
  • Evgeniy31
    Evgeniy31 April 26 2014 13: 03
    +5
    Syrians are great. Despite problems within the country, oranges were harvested.
    And here it doesn’t matter, oranges or something else, the main thing is the attitude of people, their sincere gratitude!
  • denchik1977
    denchik1977 April 26 2014 13: 06
    +5
    Syria and the Syrian people are Russia's only allies in the entire Middle East. It cannot be cynically argued that the supply of 20 tons of oranges is incomparable with political and military assistance from Russia .... Russia should continue its policy towards Syria, but also move on to economic and humanitarian assistance. It should be remembered that the support and gratitude of a small people may be worth the support of the so-called "great powers" and all "progressive humanity" .....
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 26 2014 13: 10
    +7
    Quote: atalef
    Sincerely, from a former resident of Leningrad.

    It’s good that the ex-city has become cleaner
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 13: 44
      -8
      Quote: Paranoid50
      It’s good that the ex-city has become cleaner

      I didn’t become cleaner, I happen often.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 26 2014 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: atalef

        I didn’t become cleaner, I happen often.

        Ahahaha, Sanya, ask him which city he lives in and promise to spend a vacation in his area. laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef April 26 2014 14: 13
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ahahaha, Sanya, ask him which city he lives in and promise to spend a vacation in his area.

          Sanya. you're scaring me . and where is he from?
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav April 26 2014 13: 24
    +4
    Interestingly, how would the US State Department in general, and Anna Maria Slot in particular, react to Russia's proposal to supply Syria with several C300 systems as a preventive measure of protection in connection with the impending strike, which Madame so kindly informed?
    1. Walking
      Walking April 26 2014 13: 52
      +3
      They would have raised such a squeal that my mother did not worry. Would have declared support for terrorism for sure.
      1. 0255
        0255 April 26 2014 15: 18
        +2
        Quote: Rostislav
        Interestingly, how would the US State Department in general, and Anna Maria Slot in particular, react to Russia's proposal to supply Syria with several C300 systems as a preventive measure of protection in connection with the impending strike, which Madame so kindly informed?

        Quote: Hiking
        They would have raised such a squeal that my mother did not worry. Would have declared support for terrorism for sure.

        Americans shouted last summer that deliveries of S-300s to Syria were undemocratic. They even thought about how they would bomb the Syrians from the "invisible" F-35, which is absolutely impossible to shoot down in words:
        http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/5914/
  • GradusHuK
    GradusHuK April 26 2014 13: 36
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    But gratitude is not limited to words. Tortured by sanctions and a terrorist war, Syria managed to find the strength and means to give Russia 20 tons of oranges.

    Xnumx tons of orange? Class. Russia wrote off a debt of 20 billions of dollars to Syria, and in thanks to the Syrian regime, 10 gave tons of orange. It turns out the most expensive oranges in the world. Half a million dollars per kilogram or $ 20 per orange. good

    As you can see, Syria is even able to generously share fruits.

    What a bounty, oranges roll on the ground and just rot. Tomorrow I will specially take a picture and show a photo of what value oranges in BV are of.

    Syria, despite all this, not only fights against hired bandits, but also grows oranges, sharing them with the children of Russia.

    They themselves grow like pine trees in Russia. fellow
    You can’t get snow on a snowy day for free.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 14: 08
      -7
      Quote: GradusHuK
      You can’t get snow on a snowy day for free.

      To do this, buy a snowy day laughing
      1. 0255
        0255 April 26 2014 16: 06
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: GradusHuK
        You can’t get snow on a snowy day for free.

        To do this, buy a snowy day laughing

        you have almost everything comes down to money request



    2. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 14: 58
      -9
      Quote: GradusHuK
      You can’t get snow on a snowy day for free

      Send a plane to the Ministry of Emergencies, we will download 30 tons of citrus fruits for free.
  • Kar Karych
    Kar Karych April 26 2014 13: 40
    +7
    Quote: Professor

    Where modern Russia is doing its current money is not my business, but as for the debts of the USSR, it is my business.


    According to your theses, "professor" Israel owes half the world. But your irritation is understandable to me, as they say, money is always small, especially for you. I understand your state, you obviously don't want a strong state close by, because you will have even less money. Defense will devour everything. When everything becomes bad, then you will appear with us, for the country I think you obviously will not want to lay down your head.
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    2. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 13: 59
      -9
      Quote: Kar Karych
      According to your theses, "professor" Israel owes half the world.

      They owe me personally, not Israel.

      PS
      Once again, you are mistaken with a nickname; replenish the black list of rude and Natsik.
  • Fish supervision
    Fish supervision April 26 2014 13: 49
    +5
    As usual, who is talking about something about the bathhouse, and the professor is talking about money. Believe me, dear, there are many things in the world much more valuable than these pieces of paper. yes
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 14: 15
      -1
      Quote: Fish Inspection
      As usual, who is talking about something about the bathhouse, and the professor is talking about money. Believe me, dear, there are many things in the world that are much more valuable than these pieces of paper.

      Of course, gold is generally not bad, but for Russians it is of course oil. laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 14: 17
      -2
      Quote: Fish Inspection
      As usual, who is talking about something about the bathhouse, and the professor is talking about money. Believe me, dear, there are many things in the world much more valuable than these pieces of paper. yes

      You tell this to the parents of those children who collect these pieces of paper for the treatment and salvation of their sick children abroad. Tell this to the inhabitants of the outback where the availability of roads depends on the weather, etc., etc.
      But these 13 billion could really improve the lives of Russians and save thousands and thousands of Russian children.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 26 2014 14: 37
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        But these 13 billion could really improve the lives of Russians and save thousands and thousands of Russian children.

        Yes . an interesting question. we didn’t even touch it somehow. I’m the son of my friend (a 3-year-old boy. Fell. A brain injury, started paralysis 0 lay in St. Petersburg. They couldn’t even make a diagnosis. In general, there is no quota (it’s hard to understand what the quota is), I brought it to Israel. they paid him all the treatment (I paid), for ten days he was diagnosed and the operation was completed and rehabilitation.
        there is no money for quotas for their children - but Syria - please
        What shall we say? And so many Russians are in hospitals in Israel - you’ll sway. and the stories had been listened to, probably until the end of his life.
        request
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 15: 06
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          What shall we say? And so many Russians are in hospitals in Israel - you’ll sway. and the stories had been listened to, probably until the end of his life.

          My classmate in Rambam works in oncology, he can tell a thousand of such stories. sad
          1. atalef
            atalef April 26 2014 15: 16
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            My classmate in Rambam works in oncology, he can tell a thousand of such stories

            Yes, I first went home when I returned, the first days, I told my wife. 4-5 days later stopped. It was impossible to bear.
        2. Michael_59
          Michael_59 April 28 2014 20: 05
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          What shall we say? And so many Russians in hospitals in Israel


          Yes ...
          And how many high-class, young and promising Russian medical specialists have been lured into Israel under any special programs ...
          And how much their golden hands saved there ...
          And how many did not save here ...
          And how many Jews are in Russian power at the same time ...

          ...
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 26 2014 14: 16
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Ahahaha, Sanya, ask him which city he lives in and promise to spend a vacation in his area.

    Yes, the meaning? What can I talk about if people have a bag of shekels instead of a heart and a cash register in their heads.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 26 2014 15: 18
      +1
      Quote: Paranoid50
      Yes, the meaning? What can I talk about if people have a bag of shekels instead of a heart and a cash register in their heads.

      I’m not lying, I think it's good. even more .
      But my heart is big, I cured a son of a friend for my 20t bucks. I have something to be proud of.
      1. 0255
        0255 April 26 2014 15: 23
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Yes, the meaning? What can I talk about if people have a bag of shekels instead of a heart and a cash register in their heads.

        I’m not lying, I think it's good. even more .
        But my heart is big, I cured a son of a friend for my 20t bucks. I have something to be proud of.

        Borrowed at interest? Find out under what conditions you cured your friend’s son
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          1. 0255
            0255 April 26 2014 16: 02
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            D ... k, you.

            who are you to call me names and "poke" me? Did I call you names? Take an example from your fellow countryman and fellow professor - at least he always speaks with an opponent.
            Quote: atalef
            who takes money from friends. especially in such cases.

            who how. If you cured your friend’s son for free for him, it’s worthy of respect.
            Well, you don’t understand.

            do you know me to say that?
            1. atalef
              atalef April 26 2014 16: 06
              -3
              Quote: 0255
              who are you to call me names and "poke" me?

              Nothing. you will survive

              Quote: 0255
              Take an example from your fellow countryman and fellow professor - at least he always speaks with an opponent.

              Not all Jews are alike request

              Quote: 0255
              how. If you cured your friend’s son for free for him, it’s worthy of respect.
              Well, you don’t understand.
              do you know me to say that?

              I understood on this issue

              Quote: 0255
              Borrowed at interest? Find out under what conditions you cured your friend’s son
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 28 2014 05: 36
          +2
          In addition to filth, nothing comes to mind?
      2. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket April 27 2014 04: 30
        +2
        Who saved at least one life, saved the whole world. In my opinion from the Talmud. Not literally. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 27 2014 09: 18
          -1
          Quote: Russian quilted jacket
          Who saved at least one life, saved the whole world. In my opinion from the Talmud

          From the Talmud, right. But it is worthwhile to clearly understand that only the life of a Jew is considered to be a human life in the Talmud, the life of Goi is not considered human, because Goi in the Talmud is not a person. hi
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 28 2014 05: 34
        0
        Very noble of you!
  • Andrey A
    Andrey A April 26 2014 14: 36
    +4
    DAAAAAAAAA for 20 tons of oranges, Jews tokay srach arranged request
    1. 0255
      0255 April 26 2014 15: 25
      +4
      Quote: Andrey A
      DAAAAAAAAA for 20 tons of oranges, Jews tokay srach arranged request

      Sr.a.ch our Israeli comrades will arrange in any article about Syria or Israel wassat
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik April 26 2014 21: 27
        +4
        What the hell are they comrades? Here are the Syrians and comrades.
        1. 0255
          0255 April 27 2014 00: 05
          +1
          Quote: Egorchik
          What the hell are they comrades?

          in a figurative sense wink
  • ioann1
    ioann1 April 26 2014 15: 02
    +2
    This fact reflects our true relationship!
  • dzau
    dzau April 26 2014 15: 38
    +3
    Quote: Professor

    No, dear, not your business. The debt of 10 billion is the debt to the Soviet Union of which I was a citizen. Where is my money, Zin? I didn’t give permission to forgive this debt.

    If you were still a citizen, you should be deprived of this citizenship. For the "unenthusiastic way of thinking." Or rather, for a banal insult to the people of a given country and a lie against him. This is the first thing. Second: both de jure and de facto, the government of the Russian Federation has every right to "forgive" both Soviet and its own debts, without asking permission from individual citizens, especially those who fled to their "historical homeland" (and precisely when "it became difficult", not earlier), such as you. This is the second.

    And thirdly, the support of the friendly government of Syria, even on the principle of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", gives our country more strategically than the forced collection of "Soviet debts" from it. In fact, such an attempt to drown it economically - not only will not give money, but will delight you and the Americans, because it will facilitate the change of the regime in the country to 100% pro-American, with the expulsion of the Russian fleet from Tartus and the uncontrolled growth of chaos to those closer to us territory.

    Proceeding from this, dear friend, your statements about "where is my money" in this case - verbiage, and malicious verbiage, running counter to the interests of the people of the Russian Federation. However, what else to expect from a citizen of a country with a six-pointed star on the flag? This country is not our very much and a hidden enemy: more precisely, a territory that does not have sovereignty and is controlled by our direct enemy.

    All the best to you, uv. Professor (let's hope the title is real, not invented).
    1. Professor
      Professor April 26 2014 15: 50
      -2
      Quote: dzau
      If you still remained a citizen, you should be deprived of this citizenship.

      Immediately shoot.

      Quote: dzau
      and exactly when "it got tight", not earlier

      Earlier, the Soviets did not let us go. For one desire to leave the kingdom of eternal socialism, she was imprisoned, demanded a ransom, etc.

      Quote: dzau
      And thirdly, the support of the friendly government of Syria, even on the principle of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", gives our country more strategically than the forced collection of "Soviet debts" from it.



      PS
      contrary to the interests of the people of the Russian Federation

      And did anyone ask the opinion of this people? Let's hold a referendum: "$ 10 billion in exchange for" friendship "and 20 tons of orange?"
      1. dzau
        dzau April 26 2014 17: 25
        +1
        Quote: Professor

        Immediately shoot.

        Earlier, the Soviets did not let us go. For one desire to leave the kingdom of eternal socialism, she was imprisoned, demanded a ransom, etc.

        And did anyone ask the opinion of this people? Let's hold a referendum: "$ 10 billion in exchange for" friendship "and 20 tons of orange?"

        There is simply no need for such harsh measures. In any case, for the Russian Federation. For Iran, the Arab countries and your other neighbors - such measures, perhaps, will be considered justified. But, in fact, does the state of Israel come from similar postulates? Violation of foreign borders with the bombing of nuclear facilities, the physical destruction of scientists, etc. right? Why are you embarrassed by the possibility of an identical response?

        **
        Facts rather also indicate that the government itself expelled this type of fraternity. Moreover, the government of the union made efforts towards the very emergence of the state of Israel in the 20th century. Again, the facts testify that specialists of your origin were withdrawn from yesterday's active army and sent "to help" the Israeli forces.

        Along with the supply of weapons and other mate. technical assistance. Gratis, by the way, by complete analogy with Syria. This is a question about oranges.

        As for the wording of the question of the referendum: it is wrong. Not "in exchange for oranges" - but free of charge. As a mat. tech. assistance to the allied state, which was exposed to open armed aggression by our direct enemy. I think that most of the population of Russia will give permission to their government to provide such assistance.

        Yes, it has already given it, by means of re-election for the third term of the president who carries out the given policy.

        Make friends with the real world, he will reciprocate. Although such a truth is for you, it can be painful.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 26 2014 19: 26
          0
          Quote: dzau
          Facts rather also indicate that the government itself expelled this type of fraternity. Moreover, the government of the union made efforts towards the very emergence of the state of Israel in the 20th century. Again, the facts testify that specialists of your origin were withdrawn from yesterday's active army and sent "to help" the Israeli forces.

          So be it, I’ll write an article about what the USSR and Stalin have to do with Israeli statehood. Many myths for the Russian inhabitants will have to be dispelled.

          Quote: dzau
          I think most of the Russian population will give permission to their government to provide such assistance.

          How will it give. 10 billion to 140 million is about 700 bucks. Let's throw a cry among fellow tribesmen (retirees and others), who do not mind how much they don’t feel sorry for their hard-earned money. A very interesting amount will come out.
          By the way, have all WWII veterans been provided with apartments? wink And the bourgeoisie of all and so 60 years ago.
          1. dzau
            dzau April 28 2014 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Professor
            So be it, I’ll write an article about what the USSR and Stalin have to do with Israeli statehood. Many myths for the Russian inhabitants will have to be dispelled.

            How will it give. 10 billion to 140 million is about 700 bucks. Let's throw a cry among fellow tribesmen (retirees and others), who do not mind how much they don’t feel sorry for their hard-earned money. A very interesting amount will come out.
            By the way, have all WWII veterans been provided with apartments? wink And the bourgeoisie of all and so 60 years ago.

            You distort. And very good. primitively - i.e. do not even bother to hide the disrespect for the audience of this resource.

            These 10 billion of yours, with which you are rushing about like a written sack, are not taken out of the pocket of an individual citizen in the form of "700 bucks". Such things are allocated by the "consolidated budget". As well as funds for purposes such as the construction of nuclear submarines and launches into space. With your approach, dear, if you consider all such rubles - "taken out of your pockets" and for similar purposes - do not allocate, the country will simply lose the opportunity to defend its own interests. It will cost more, it seems like you don't need to explain?

            Tellingly, the Syrian "rubles" cannot be taken out of our pockets at all: they do not exist. They were delivered at a different time, by another country - in the form of a mat. technical means. With the already inherent possibility of "no return" (it is physically absent - the possibility of returning this). The air was "written off". Despite the fact that the industry of the union worked, taxes were deducted "a specific citizen" and received a salary for his labor.

            I repeat once again that you did not even find how to immediately fend off without preparation (facts are generally difficult to fend off): the same supplies went to your own country.

            They are generally the most commonplace thing, such deliveries: i.e. common toolkit used by many countries. From us came, for example, Vietnam during the period of a similar, perhaps full-scale aggression against it. And not by us alone: ​​China has done the same. No one in their right mind, either on this side or on the other, considered the actions of the USSR government to be stupid nonsense to the detriment of their own people (as well as the actions of the United States during the presence of the OKSV in Afghanistan). Through such supplies, enormous damage was inflicted on our direct enemy: they spent years, breaking through resources and thousands of lives where a quick, dusty "profit" was planned. Given the failure of the "rival" to achieve its objectives, these yards of funds, millions of man-hours have gone to dust. Achievement of the goals would multiply recoup the investment, and the pressure on our country corresponding to this would increase.

            And you will be trawling for us, that such assistance to the allied countries is "inadequate" and to the detriment of their own people? Yes, you, dear, are nonsense.

            By the way, yes. The assistance from the United States to Israel is of the same kind. Direct monetary, material and technical or indirect - "investments", technologies, transfer of high-tech industries that create well-paid slaves. place - does not matter. The essence is the same.
          2. dzau
            dzau April 28 2014 11: 13
            +1
            Now the next thing. Regarding the "provision" of housing for our veterans, in contrast to Western ones. First: the state of the economy of the overseas states, almost untouched by the Second World War (as well as the first; moreover, in both wars, they rose magnificently and wonderfully), with subsequent help from this economy - Western Europe.

            Second: the state of the economy of the union - in addition to "apartments for veterans", it is forced to restore not only (partly demolished to the ground) housing stock, but also a bunch of industries, on the basis of which this very stock could be restored.

            Third: in addition to what was mentioned in paragraph "two" - the country was threatened with complete destruction by means of nuclear weapons. Those. in such a dilapidated state - the country was forced to spend efforts and funds comparable to those already spent on the war, on the creation of a "nuclear shield".

            Based on the foregoing, the difference in the post-war "welfare" of Soviet and Western veterans seems, to put it mildly, logical and inevitable.

            The facts are so obvious, open and well-known that you could not fail to know them. Nevertheless, they chose to modestly omit them, reproaching the former homeland for the post-war "lack of attention to veterans." This, I repeat, is called the term "juggling". Those. a very primitive attempt to manipulate someone else's opinion.
            1. Professor
              Professor April 28 2014 11: 23
              0
              Quote: dzau
              Now the next thing. Regarding the "provision" of housing for our veterans, in contrast to Western ones. First: the state of the economy of the overseas states ...

              How much text and how many excuses why there was not enough money for veterans and sick children. Tell us that donated 10 billion is a penny and could not improve life for any of the veterans, or give him your reasons and forget to mention 10 billion donated to Assad.
              1. dzau
                dzau April 28 2014 12: 44
                +1
                Quote: Professor

                How much text and how many excuses why there was not enough money for veterans and sick children. Tell us that donated 10 billion is a penny and could not improve life for any of the veterans, or give him your reasons and forget to mention 10 billion donated to Assad.

                You objected "all at once", without substantiating your objection on any of the points.

                Those. to communication based on facts and logic are incapable.

                It's time to diversify the song-hurdy-gurdy about "under-fence veterans, sick children, a drunken bear with a balalaika". My veteran grandfather received a 4-room Leningrad woman in a newly built house. I will disappoint you, the Russian Federation treats its own children by 99,9%, and not through a sympathetic Israel (although I can introduce you to your compatriot who comes to Russia to receive medical aid: because here medical care is much more affordable). Well, whining about 10 billion to the regime, which you, by your own admission, hate, well ... it's just childishly funny. At least go to nature more often.
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 28 2014 13: 25
                  0
                  Quote: dzau
                  You objected "all at once", without substantiating your objection on any of the points.
                  Points are left excuses. Both Germany and Japan were almost wiped off the face of the earth, but veterans there provided housing for a very long time. Look for new excuses.

                  Quote: dzau
                  I will disappoint you, my children, the Russian Federation treats itself by 99,9%, and not through sympathetic Israel (although I can introduce you to your compatriot who comes to receive medical care in Russia: because medical care is much more affordable here).

                  You tell these fables to the parents of these children:
                  Lubkovsky Sasha
                  Diagnosis: CNS tumor



                  http://www.tvk6.ru/blog/post/26

                  How can medical care be much more affordable if it is free in Israel? That is, you are being treated in Russia and they also pay money for this?

                  PS
                  Show photos of poor veterans?
                  1. dzau
                    dzau April 28 2014 22: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: Professor
                    Points are left excuses. Both Germany and Japan were almost wiped off the face of the earth, but veterans there provided housing for a very long time.

                    That is, an indication that the so-called. Germany (more precisely, only a piece of it - the FRG) - was restored by means of economic assistance from the states that were not "destroyed", but even very "risen" in the war - you chose to ignore. The same, by the way, worked out in the case of the Japanese: which you also could not have known. Again, we state: a primitive, wretched distortion.

                    Quote: Professor

                    You tell these fables to the parents of these children:
                    Diagnosis: CNS tumor

                    Twenty-five again: it was indicated to you: the bulk, the vast majority of children of Russian origin - receive medical care on the territory of the Russian Federation itself. This is a statistical fact.

                    But you are poking at us pictures ... Percentage of a percentage. However, here's the trouble: with regard to these single children - to talk about "good deeds" - is not necessary. For these foreign operations, they collected gigantic sums - inside Russia. Those who could not raise money (often millions) - children died. Business on children's lives - no more.

                    Regarding the reason: the Russian Federation lagged behind in the production of medical equipment, including such as tomographs. It would be amusing to "keep up" when the country was purposefully and successfully "brought down", tearing apart, destroying many key industries, "crushing" scientific schools, putting medical personnel on the brink of survival.

                    All the prerequisites for the restoration of medicine and the elimination of the backlog are obvious. Do not be fooled: a limitrophic Israel will not be able to outstrip the former alliance for key technologies for a long time, even at the expense of state-owned technologies (the states themselves are blown away), that is, when Russia is growing in the foreseeable future. the potential of the former USSR, with 40 million Russian people.
                  2. dzau
                    dzau April 28 2014 22: 27
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                    Quote: Professor

                    How can medical care be much more affordable if it is free in Israel?

                    Have you really decided to argue with me on this subject?

                    bestmedisrael.com/ru/2009-04-23-22-02-41.html
                    A visit to a doctor - specialist is paid, first you need to order a queue and wait one to two weeks. Only the visit to your home or pediatric doctor remains free.

                    Recently, due to a lack of funds, the list of services provided by health insurance funds has sharply decreased, and therefore many Israeli citizens are forced to pay extra for additional insurance - "Bituach Mashlim" through clinics or private insurance agents in order to receive the most complete range of medical services.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 29 2014 08: 31
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                      That is, an indication that the so-called. Germany (more precisely, only a piece of it - the FRG) - was restored by means of economic assistance from the states that were not "destroyed", but very much even "risen" in the war

                      Especially. The USA and Germany helped the USA, and the USSR, where for decades veterans without their homes and where there were no normal roads and no, gave billions left and right.
                      I rest my case.

                      Twenty-five again: it was indicated to you: the bulk, the vast majority of children of Russian origin - receive medical care on the territory of the Russian Federation itself. This is a statistical fact.

                      Want some stats? I have it.
                      Russia:
                      Maternal mortality during childbirth: 34 death / 100,000 births, 119th in the world
                      Infant mortality at birth: 7.08 deaths / 1,000 births, 160th in the world
                      For comparison, Germany:
                      Maternal mortality during childbirth: 7 deaths / 100,000 births, 165th in the world
                      Infant mortality at birth: 3.46 deaths / 1,000 births, 209th in the world

                      Photos of poor veterans in the country giving 10 billion dollars to spread? wink

                      Regarding the reason: the Russian Federation lagged behind in the production of medical equipment, including such as tomographs. It would be amusing to "keep up" when the country was purposefully and successfully "brought down", tearing apart, destroying many key industries, "crushing" scientific schools, putting medical personnel on the brink of survival.

                      No. This is not the reason. The lag, and total, was already under the USSR, which instead of investing money in medical technology spent it on asdov and military-industrial complex. Modern Russia has similar priorities with minor differences. Already in the USSR, medical institutes were taken by pull and limited the entry of the same Jews. Result on the face.

                      Another distortion: you were told about certain areas where Israel's "free medicine" is not so "free".

                      And what are you saying? Enlighten the pliz of the person using this medicine. Likbez: visiting a specialist doctor (whom you choose) costs 19 shekels per quarter with an average salary in Israel of 8.941 shekels and a half liter of draft beer at 30 shekels. And now attention: a heart transplant operation is 0.0 shekels, however, like any other operation, hospitalization is 0.0 shekels. Here riding unnecessarily on an ambulance will cost $ 200, and if necessary then 0.0 shekels.
                      And the most interesting thing. In your words: "although I can introduce you to your compatriot who comes to Russia to receive medical aid: because here medical aid is much more accessible."
                      Statistics, average life expectancy:
                      Russia 70.16 years, 151st place in the world
                      Israel 81.28 years, 19th place in the world.
                      And where is medical care much more affordable? wink
                      1. dzau
                        dzau April 30 2014 08: 26
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                        What progress. They poked his nose, and immediately detailed answers to the points began.

                        Your statistics, sorry, why? They told you: the vast majority of their own children in the Russian Federation treats themselves. Have you decided to obscure the fact by sucking the difference in child mortality? Better, worse - heals itself.

                        Quote: Professor
                        in the USSR, medical institutes were taken by pull and limited the flow of the same Jews

                        Do you propose further the future population of Israel to teach for free?

                        **
                        What do "average salaries" prove if calling an ambulance in your "free medicine" is paid? Her, emergency, like our cardiology. A paramedic will come to you for free, sit next to you and look with kind eyes.

                        **
                        Is it you me that eh have gathered tales about "0 shekels" for difficult cases to sing? Do you yourself "remember" about the "basket" and services that are not included in its scope? Or carry your nose again?

                        In general, in vain touched the topic of salaries. Exactly given the difference in salaries (and prices for medical services) for your average compatriot, given the Jesuit situation with "additional services", it is more affordable to treat teeth in St. Petersburg than to do it across the road. Go ahead, challenge me with facts, not folk tunes about "free Jewish medicine". The combination is not even an oxymoron, the combination is an anecdote.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor April 30 2014 09: 59
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                        Quote: dzau
                        What progress. They poked his nose, and immediately detailed answers to the points began.

                        Your statistics, sorry, why? They told you: the vast majority of their own children in the Russian Federation treats themselves. Have you decided to obscure the fact by sucking the difference in child mortality? Better, worse - heals itself.

                        You respected poked his nose into the numbers with which you can not argue and began "the vast majority of their own children of the Russian Federation heals itself." Popua New Guinea also heals the vast majority of its own children. Thank God. Have you written off the minority? They don't count, or can't they save 10 billion? Explain why then their parents are beaten all over the world, looking for money to save their children while the state donates 10 billion to Assad?


                        Do you propose further the future population of Israel to teach for free?

                        I suggest accepting the best at medical institutes, and not on a national basis, and then medicine will not be what it is today in Russia. It got to the point that anyone has money even to give birth abroad fly.

                        What do "average salaries" prove if calling an ambulance in your "free medicine" is paid? Her, emergency, like our cardiology.

                        I repeat, an ambulance call is paid, but it costs nothing to the patient. Paid by the health insurance fund. The exceptions are those cases when an ambulance call was not necessary, for example, the flu and temperature 38. You can easily get to the doctor yourself. With regard to "paid" operations in Israel and "an order of magnitude more affordable medicine" has nothing to argue? Have you learned the material? wink

                        Or carry your nose again?

                        Poke and explain why in a constantly belligerent country that does not export hydrocarbons, life expectancy is 10 years longer than in Russia? Remember the war that ended 70 years ago, the re-establishment of 30 years ago, the climate, or come up with other excuses.
                        And most importantly, I did not see a single argument that everything is so pink that 10 billion can be donated left and right.
                      3. dzau
                        dzau April 30 2014 17: 30
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                        Quote: Professor

                        Popua New Guinea also treats the vast majority of its own children.

                        Those. Are you seriously going to prove to me that the state of medicine of the Russian Federation is comparable to the state of medicine in New Guinea? Prove, I will listen to you carefully.

                        Quote: Professor

                        I suggest accepting the best at medical institutes, and not on a national basis, and then medicine will not be what it is today in Russia.

                        You, my friend, wrote about the universities of the USSR. The USSR has not existed for 23 years. There are no "national criteria" for admission to Russian universities.

                        By the way, the laws of the USSR also did not provide for any "racial discrimination" when entering educational institutions.

                        **
                        Quote: Professor

                        I repeat, the ambulance call is paid, but it costs the patient nothing. The sickness fund pays.

                        Really?


                        Ambulance service provides emergency medical care in Israel. There are 2 types of ambulances.

                        The first is a "white" ambulance with a driver - "hovesh" (analogue of a military assistant) and, as a rule, an ordinary volunteer is paired with him. (...) The task of such a team is to hold on to the patient until the arrival at the hospital or until the arrival of the intensive care team - "Nathan".

                        The second type of ambulance is Natana's orange mobile resuscitation teams. Such teams are staffed with doctors. (...) go to all emergency conditions: severe injuries, heart attacks, etc., etc. The decision to send a call to one or another brigade is made by the service dispatcher.

                        Calling "Nathan" costs about 800 shekels, but in many cities the municipalities participate in the payment, and the patient pays less than half of this amount. The usual ambulance costs from 200 to 400 shekels per call.

                        The exceptions are cases involving hospitalization for more than a day, then the payment is provided by medical insurance.

                        http://bestmedisrael.com/ru/2009-04-23-22-02-41.html
                        For the gifted, highlighted in the last line.

                        And the full Middle Ages:

                        If in Russia, doctors or nurses come to see you at home, then in Israel this practice does not exist. You need to agree on a doctor’s call, while specifying the date, time and purpose of the visit. (...) All responsibility for monitoring children lies with the parents. At first glance, this is unreasonable, because young parents do not always know what and how to do. And this inexperience often becomes irreparable. But in the organization of the entire statehood of Israel and medicine in particular, lies the national mentality.
                      4. Professor
                        Professor April 30 2014 20: 00
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                        Quote: dzau
                        You, my friend, wrote about universities in the USSR.

                        You are not my friend, but I’m feeding Troll for entertainment. wassat

                        Quote: dzau
                        And the full Middle Ages:

                        Blah blah blah. How many letters and words. Life expectancy in the "Middle Ages" for 10 years !!! higher than in Russia. This is the harsh truth of life. request The rest is verbiage.

                        Quote: dzau
                        Because Russia occupies 1/7 of the land ..

                        Excuse number 1 - sizes. Of course, they interfere with the training of normal specialists in Moscow and the construction of a normal hospital in a million city. 10 billion could improve the situation?

                        Quote: dzau
                        retention of it - requires huge costs ...
                        It was and will be associated with costs, hardships, a "standard of living" "not like in Europe" ...
                        Russia spent - and will spend the bestial share of resources on defense, infrastructure and technologies associated with it ...

                        Excuse number 2 - the army. So you agree that 10000000000 could help in these costs? wink

                        And the next generations will have a "standard of living" and you -

                        ... by the year 80, communism, by the year 2000, a separate apartment, doubling the GDP ... we will wait.

                        Quote: dzau
                        You are inattentive and inaccurate.

                        1. Syria gave 10 billion, I do not lie.
                        2. Zubov was not counted by the USSR as a lost technology and the loss of the reputation of this technology, the loss of human lives of its citizens, the "food program", Virgin lands, and the USSR itself, as far as I remember, came out. So the money donated to Assad was spent on the wind.

                        Quote: dzau
                        Want to know what happens when a country refuses this kind of opposition?

                        I know. This money, tens of billions of dollars, goes to science, medicine and improving the lives of its citizens. For example, Canada, Australia, and Germany.

                        PS
                        It would be nice to give billions to Armenia, what to take from it (more precisely, everything has already been taken)? But Assad has hydrocarbons. Could and repay debts as a real man.
                      5. dzau
                        dzau 1 May 2014 09: 02
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                        They wrote a lot, went down to the level of "you are a fool", but where they poked you, they diplomatically kept silent.

                        Those. "Free medicine" - is it paid?

                        **
                        Canada, Australia are part of the Anglo-Saxon world: countries that do not need to invest in technology, infrastructure and other things related to the military-industrial complex: they will be provided with all this by the "metropolis", along with security guarantees.

                        Germany is not far from them. All three countries do not have full sovereignty.

                        It turns out everything that you wrote on this subject - a primitive distortion.

                        **
                        Regarding "size" and "army": both, my dear, require infrastructure in the first place. Read syllables.

                        Cut off the Israeli enclave from external supplies - its ability to withstand an external threat multiplied by zero. Cut off the Russian Federation - the country's ability to "feed" its own military-industrial complex on its own will be clearly seen.

                        The future of 5 million inhabitants of limitrophic Israel, huddling on a piece of desert surrounded by 200 million Islamic people (who hate Tel Aviv fiercely), forging their nuclear shields day and night, is unsteady and very good in the long run. shaky.

                        The future is 140 million inhabitants of vast Russia, where generations pumped the country with iron and concrete, factories and electric power. stations, settlements, even beyond the Arctic Circle - but at the deposits of strategic raw materials - stands on a solid foundation. Before our eyes, these 140 million are turning into 200, with the corresponding territorial and infrastructural growth.

                        Did you read a fairy tale about a dragonfly and an ant in childhood?
                        The rest is dust.
                      6. Professor
                        Professor 1 May 2014 09: 51
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                        They wrote a lot, went down to the level of "you are a fool", but where they poked you, they diplomatically kept silent.

                        Stop flooding, return to the original source. "to Russia: because here medical care is much more accessible"- with such" availability "infant mortality is 2 times higher, maternal mortality too, life expectancy is 10 (ten) years less than in Israel. Will you argue with the facts?

                        Quote: dzau
                        The future of 5 million inhabitants of limitrophic Israel, huddling on a piece of desert surrounded by 200 million Islamic people (who hate Tel Aviv fiercely), forging their nuclear shields day and night, is unsteady and very good in the long run. shaky.

                        Explain to you the meaning of the word "Limitrof" which you love to throw so much? (LIMITROF, a, m. 〔Latin. limitrophus - border〕 (polit. nov.) The name of the states that formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and also Finland.) Israel for Russia is not by definition. By the way, the population of Israel is not 5 million and is increasing annually. In Israel, 18.44 births per 5.54 deaths, an increase of 1.46%, in Russia comparison 11.87 births by 13.83 deaths, an increase of -0.03% - the 200th place in the world. In other words annually Unfortunately Russia's population is decreasing by 43 thousand people.

                        Total:
                        As we see from the figures, 10 billion dollars would not be superfluous for the well-being of Russian citizens, would save many lives and provide a decent old age for veterans, but ... request
                      7. dzau
                        dzau 1 May 2014 13: 07
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                        Quote: Professor
                        go back to the original. "to Russia: because here medical care is orders of magnitude more accessible" - with such "availability" infant mortality is 2 times higher, maternal mortality is also, life expectancy is 10 (ten) years less than in Israel.

                        Those. you do not mind the payment of your "free medicine". Let's go further: why on earth should one expect from a country that has de facto lost up to a third of its population and so many territories that it has rolled back to the borders of the 16th century - leadership in medicine? The country has been in a demographic, economic and social abyss for twenty years. And just started to crawl out. Comparing it with the Western European level, which did not come close to the brink of such an abyss, is manipulation and wretched distortion.

                        More accessible means more accessible. Calling the same ambulance in Russia, alas, is free. Not 200 to 800 shekels. More affordable than free, my dear friend, until, unfortunately, they have not come up with it.

                        Quote: Professor
                        LIMITROF, a, m. Latin. limitrophus - border (...) The name of the states that formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, as well as Finland.
                        Israel for Russia is not by definition.

                        Two in semantics, you can sit down.
                        Have you drifted far away from the Russian language? The term "limitrophe" has long been used to refer to dwarf formations that bark where they are ordered. So it is. In relation to Finland, by the way, the term is of little use. But feel free to add your present homeland along with Qatar and Georgia.

                        Quote: Professor
                        10 billion dollars would not be superfluous for the well-being of Russian citizens

                        The settled Cuba, Syria, Iran and Vietnam are even better. Nuclear power plants in Iran are generally chic. Do not have a hundred rubles - do you know such a proverb?
                        I suggest you better calculate how much went to China at the dawn of the Chinese communist government. Then open the map and see who has become the strategic rear for the Russian Federation, allowing it to ignore any economy. blockade, silently returning the lost pieces of the country: 40 million of the Russian population and the territory of the largest European power, together with the infrastructure. Is it worth "10 billion"? Naive question. Such things are not measured with cut paper.
                      8. Professor
                        Professor 1 May 2014 14: 19
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                        Quote: dzau
                        Those. you no longer mind the payment of your "free medicine".

                        I object, but she has nothing to do with the discussed 10 billion, and got the flood.

                        Quote: dzau
                        Not 200 to 800 shekels. More affordable than free, my dear friend, until, unfortunately, they have not come up with it.

                        Not a friend. You tell me ...
                        And accessibility undergoes quality. The shaman in the Amazon generally lives in the tribe. In your opinion, the most accessible medicine is obtained there. By the way, an ambulance is not a taxi and what's the point if its functions are reduced to "free" transportation to a hospital where doctors cannot do anything? Have you learned the statistics? Can I take an exam? wink

                        Quote: dzau
                        Two in semantics, you can sit down.

                        The teacher who sets the deuces usually shows where in the book the correct answer. Learn materiel:
                        LIMITROF
                        LIMITROF, Limitropha, husband. (lat. limitrophus - borderline) (polit. neol.). The name of the states formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, as well as Finland.

                        Dictionary D. N. Ushakova (1938) repeats the definition of the Small Soviet Encyclopedia (1929) in essence, but does not mention Poland:
                        LIMITROF, a, m. 〔Latin. limitrophus - border〕 (polit. nov.) The name of the states that formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and also Finland.

                        In The Explanatory Dictionary of Foreign Words (1998), L. P. Krysin tries to combine both versions of the list of limitrophs:
                        LIMITROF, a, m. 1. The border area of ​​the Roman Empire, which was supposed to contain troops standing on the border. 2. In the 1920s and 30s: the name of one of the states that formed on the western edge of the former Russian Empire after 1917. Limitrophic - which is a limotroph. | Limitrophies were Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland and Finland.

                        Quote: dzau
                        Do not have a hundred rubles - do you know such a proverb?

                        Friendship implies reciprocity. What has Syria done for Russia in difficult times? That's right, nothing.

                        Quote: dzau
                        Such things are not measured with cut paper.

                        How much do you estimate the life of Russian children who could have been saved for the donated 10 billion? Surrender not in any way, they are consumables for you and virtual "friendship" with Syria, Cuba and Egypt is more important. The latter, by the way, had already thrown his great friend, the lesson apparently remained unlearned.
                        I'm tired of your flood, do not bother me anymore. For the road you see photos of sick Russian children who don't give a damn.
                      9. dzau
                        dzau 2 May 2014 03: 01
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                        Quote: Professor
                        I object, but she has nothing to do with the discussed 10 billion, and got the flood.

                        Not "got the flood", but there is nothing to answer in detail.

                        Quote: Professor
                        availability equals quality. The shaman in the Amazon generally lives in the tribe. According to you, the most accessible medicine turns out there. By the way, an ambulance is not a taxi and what's the point if its functions are reduced to "free" transportation to a hospital where doctors cannot do anything? Have you learned the statistics? Can I take an exam?

                        Availability = quality? What are you? )

                        You have already tried to equate the medicine of the Russian Federation with the medicine of New Guinea, but were blown away. Now they decided to compare with the Amazonian shamans. Great, start, I'll listen carefully.

                        Quote: Professor
                        By the way, an ambulance is not a taxi, and what good is it if its functions are reduced to "free" transportation to a hospital where doctors cannot do anything?

                        Oh, the medicine of the Russian Federation already can't do anything at all. Have you decided to descend to the level of gossip from lack of arguments?
                        Well, does it cost “200 to 800 shekels” to call an ambulance in your “free medicine”? And then play and play. Write: "not worth it", confirm with formidable facts.
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                        dzau 2 May 2014 03: 06
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                        Quote: Professor
                        The teacher who sets the deuces usually shows where in the book the correct answer. Learn materiel:
                        [i] LIMITROF, Limitropha, husband. (lat. limitrophus - borderline) (polit. neol.). The name of the states formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, as well as Finland.

                        You seem to be unfamiliar with linguistics. Well, a short educational program. Language is a dynamically developing system. The semantic layer is constantly being modified and formed - through, in fact, the use of speech by the carrier (in this case, the Russian people). So, my dear friend, in addition to dictionaries that a priori do not keep pace with the transformation of the semantic layer, there are also so-called "flying" observations, profile research. Subsequently, it is on the basis of them that edits are made to dictionaries and textbooks. From the recent: the genus of the use of words such as "coat", "coffee", in the process - "tulle"; those. "science" only "legitimizes" that mold of the system's existence, which is relevant at the moment.

                        Regarding the completeness of the meaning of the term "limitrophe", I will even briefly explain the genesis to you: to the old and quite "decent" meaning ("borderland"), when repeating history (split off from the country), to Latvia, Estonia, etc. (but not Finland, typical) superimposed on the "pejorative" attitude that poured in and supplemented the semantic layer. The word that had lain and received a "second wind" (previously it was not widely used), as well as the "image" of a small, aggressive and no sovereignty country, was extrapolated to all such countries. Under Saakashvili's regime Georgia was added, Qatar was added (by the way - a textbook case), Poland, Israel ... What is significant: the term has lost its "geographical" reference. Qatar and Israel, for example, are not just not the periphery of Russia, but also the "direction" of their induced aggression - mainly not Russia. However, within their region, they are quite limitrophes.

                        The mass use in print of the term in the indicated meaning in relation to the indicated countries will help you with further educational program: we are now familiar with the theoretical basis. You are absolutely right: the materiel is above all.
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                        dzau 2 May 2014 03: 08
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                        Quote: Professor
                        Friendship implies reciprocity. What has Syria done for Russia in difficult times? That's right, nothing.

                        She drew on herself the resources of a hostile state. It is obvious. And the main thing is not what "did" (past tense), but what "will do". I repeat once again: learn the history of the PRC. What did China do immediately after the aid? Nothing. Fifty years have passed: and the weakened, dismembered Russia received a strategic rear, which allowed (already) to preserve the dying military-industrial complex (whose orders were in the 50s?) And allows (now) the return of territories, ignoring the threat of a blockade. You absolutely do not understand the meaning of the proverb. As with the language in general, you are very weak.

                        Quote: Professor
                        How much do you assess the lives of Russian children who could be saved for donated 10 billion?

                        You have already been told, but you have not found anything to cover: the Russian government already "saved" 20 years ago. Dropping support for friendly modes. And lost a third of the population and territories more than in the most terrible period of the worst war. Having received a million losses a year. Your arithmetic is kindergarten.

                        Quote: Professor
                        I'm tired of your flood, do not bother me anymore.

                        I also think that at your level of knowledge of the topic, you should have run away from this discussion like from a fire.
          3. dzau
            dzau April 30 2014 17: 34
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            Quote: Professor

            Poke and explain why in a constantly belligerent country that does not export hydrocarbons, life expectancy is 10 years longer than in Russia? Remember the war that ended 70 years ago, the re-establishment of 30 years ago, the climate, or come up with other excuses.

            Because Russia occupies one-seventh of the land ... Creation of infrastructure on such a huge territory, retention of it - requires huge costs. This is an investment in the future of the people. Due to these investments, in general, we are not "at war". Although your "war" is more like the genocide of the indigenous population, with the imbedding of the Papuans in the Paleolithic.

            In the past, these "investments" have paid off more than once. Let me remind you: if the union had not held out half a century ago, such a state as "Israel" would not have existed b. Like most of the beautiful Israeli people.

            So, my friend, Russia has been investing for more than one century in the development / retention of these spaces. This was and will be associated with costs, hardships, a "standard of living" "not like in Europe." The process is not just not finished - it has not even passed the peak. For hundreds of years, the state will have to invest in its future.

            Where the limitrophe countries, such as Western Europe and yours, can invest in the "standard of living", being under the umbrella of those under whom they lay down, not bothering too much about repeating "drang nach osten", Russia spent - and will spend an animal share of resources on defense , infrastructure and technologies associated with it.

            Paradoxically, strategically, this is the most optimal way to ensure further prosperity. You can make up for technological gaps, you can catch up with the notorious "standard of living". But not one of the limitrophes, including the 5-million-strong Israel huddling on a pitiful patch of desert, will never grow close to Russia.

            Where there is a limitrophe, if the geopolitical "wind" changes, it will be swept away, stupidly from the face of the earth, Russia will only sneeze. And the next generations will have a "standard of living" and you - residents of economically and politically dependent territories, without resources, without technology, without infrastructure, without a large population. For all this requires a base.

            We have our own, the strongest in the world. You don’t have: you are using someone else’s, existing as a European enclave on a hostile and alien continent. Read the history of former European enclaves in Africa, at least Southern Rhodesia. When the enclave becomes a burden, they drain it: they even help to "bring down" it.

            Quote: Professor

            And most importantly, I did not see a single argument that everything is so pink that 10 billion can be donated left and right.

            You are inattentive and inaccurate. Multiply it: gratuitous supplies were not only for Syria. Yes, and you are lying: above you were explained to what purposes such "deliveries" go.

            All assistance to Syria, Cuba, Vietnam etc is an investment in the broken teeth of Americans. For 1 ruble invested - a truck of lost dollars.

            Do you want to know what happens when a country refuses this kind of opposition? Open the Warsaw Pact map. Then open a modern map of the world. Compare the situation with the economy and social sphere in the "stagnant" USSR - and in Russia in the mid-90s. I think this is an exhaustive answer to this question.
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