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"Russian fascists" does not exist in nature, and the law against them now exists

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"Russian fascists" does not exist in nature, and the law against them now existsIt would be better if the Duma banned insulting the Russian people, the expert complains


The State Duma banned the propaganda of Nazism. Fully. Irrevocably. And the citizens at the TV startled involuntarily: this is no longer a joke to you - to prohibit Nazi propaganda. Who dared? Who allowed? The Nazis among us ?!

If you read some of the media, then yes. Unless they do not go home with photocopies of “Mein Kampf” and do not agitate, replenishing their ranks with fragile but hot souls ... Obviously, it was this image of the treacherous modern fascists that Mrs. Irina Yarovaya drew in her rich imagination, but it is unlikely that we sin against the truth, if we say honestly: wrong, outlawed. Everything is both simpler and more complicated at the same time.

Nazism is not just a juvenile idiot who draws swastikas in an elevator, not a young provocateur from near Moscow region. First of all, this is ideology, including among the officials themselves, who confidently feel that they are a “special race”. With all the ensuing set. Is that the case of gas chambers is still unlikely to come.

And surely they would be only in favor ...

A well-known publicist and political figure, former State Duma deputy Andrei Saveliev noted the deliberate absurdity of such a general approach of lawmakers to such a fundamental issue:

- Apparently, the State Duma is so well informed that it knows where the Nazis, fascists, Bandera are ... As much as I am involved in politics, I have never met a single Nazi or Bandera. These terms are generally used in Russia, rather, as a curse word. Obviously, the State Duma decided to give the vulgar street fighting legal status, and we can say that this way an insult to the whole of our country is inflicted.

Are there really forces in Russia that are completely identical to the historical fascist regime of Italy, or Nazism of Nazi Germany, or the Bandera gangs that operated in Western Ukraine during the war and partly after?

The fact that this is not even close is known to everyone, but the State Duma too often substitutes the truth of life with illusions that it needs only to prove to all of us once again: we are all so stupid that we cannot understand that we are in fact fascists and that we need to pursue for it

That's exactly what article it is time to enter for a long time - so it is for insulting the Russian people. Moreover, it must necessarily have a retroactive effect: those who allow themselves to mock at the state-forming people, to mock at what is holy for them must be prosecuted. And I can only wish the deputies long-term health to live to see the court and be able to bear responsibility for the systematic humiliations to which they are now Russian.

Although I suspect that it was unlikely that those who had voted at all knew which documents were adopted following the results of the Nuremberg Trials, nor are they likely to know that the documentary basis of this tribunal has not yet been studied by historians to the end. But did the deputies read the well-known documents, or were they simply told to vote, because “it is necessary,” and they voted? ..

In turn, the historian and publicist Mikhail Smolin paid particular attention to some details:

- It is obvious that the current situation in Ukraine has pushed our government towards such a swift adoption of this law. It must be assumed that, according to the idea of ​​the authors of the draft law, its adoption will give us the opportunity to sift out in society some definitely negative trends in political life, which tend either to directly follow the National Socialist doctrine or ideas similar to this doctrine.

In this connection, I would like to note that, in fact, national socialism is a left-wing doctrine. Although in Soviet times it was customary to refer this movement to the extreme right, which is wrong. And the term “fascism” has taken root in our country precisely because in the Soviet Union it was inconvenient to talk about national socialism, since socialism in the Soviet country was perceived as definitely positive.

And here, given the above confusion, it is very important to apply this law precisely in relation to the radical leftist movements associated with Nazism, a certain radical perception of socialism.

Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems Konstantin Sokolov also expressed his opinion on the adoption of such a law:

- First, of course, it is very important to carefully read the adopted law itself. This is fundamentally important for one simple reason: it is important to understand what exactly will be prosecuted and on what grounds will fascism itself stand out.

Secondly, there is already one fundamental thing laid down here. The fact is that in fact at the Nuremberg trial it was Nazism, not fascism, that was condemned. Just because fascism is the rule of the administrative-nomenclature system.
That is, any absolute monarchy is essentially the same fascism, but it was Nazism condemned, expressed in the genocide of other peoples in the interests of its own. And I would like this moment to be clearly defined.

In addition, in modern conditions, law enforcement practice will be extremely important, that is, how exactly these actions will be interpreted by the investigation and the court. In the law on countering extremism, in the relevant articles of the Criminal Code, the basic concepts were not clearly defined and, as a result, the articles themselves were turned into a tool of almost arbitrary persecution, when, as it turned out, anyone could be brought under this article.
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  1. Children BuryKonya
    Children BuryKonya April 27 2014 07: 12
    +1
    As simple as that, he issued a law and the problem is solved.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 27 2014 07: 16
      +39
      The State Duma has banned the propaganda of Nazism. Completely. Irrevocably
      Everything is correct .. Ukraine is an example of this.
      1. ya.seliwerstov2013
        ya.seliwerstov2013 April 27 2014 08: 50
        +21
        NO Nazism - it's time to say
        With his sick and furious grin
        Jackals need to drive everyone from the yard,
        So that normal people do not bite ....
      2. Wanderer H7
        Wanderer H7 April 27 2014 09: 41
        +41
        Moreover, the article also claims that there are no Russian fascists and Bandera. With this ?! There is also how. And the swastikas are drawn, no more than on April 20, on Hitler's next birthday in Chelyabinsk. What kind of traveled article wrote?
        1. lelikas
          lelikas April 27 2014 11: 14
          +12
          Quote: N7 Wanderer
          There is also how.

          And for a long time to come, while we will be bombarded with migrants - and the police will shrug their hands - nationalism will only grow stronger.
          Migrants are building dormitories, making a notification system of entry - and they are already quietly starting to rob and rape - a recent example in the St. Petersburg Aviagorodka, a good illustration of this - what the police said at the conference - you have three district police officers .......
          So they will wait for the people to clean their areas themselves ....
          1. Free Island
            Free Island April 27 2014 14: 50
            +8
            Nationalism and Nazism are two different things. in the light of the influx of illiterate but very borzoi behaving (until the first arrival upside down melon) scum from any bordering countries (which were not useful in the homeland but here are worthy of businessmen and officials, because good grandmothers are laundered on them), let Russian nationalism grows stronger, but Nazism is still NOT !.
            1. Ross
              Ross April 27 2014 16: 14
              +3
              Free Island
              Nationalism and Nazism are two different things. in the light of the influx of illiterate but very borzoi behaving (until the first arrival upside down melon) scum from any bordering countries (which were not useful in the homeland but here are worthy of businessmen and officials, because good grandmothers are laundered on them), let Russian nationalism grows stronger, but Nazism is still NOT !.

              All of us brothers Slavs need to remember our original, our GENERAL history, our GENERAL heroes,
              their great-grandfathers and their Great Deeds in the name of the Common State. We all remember the USSR, but this is only an attempt to return the original project of the Slavic Empire to Svyatoslav Khorobre.
              Watch the video and then an interview on this topic Dugin.
              Dedicated to all of us the current heirs of Russia.

        2. chudoudodelt
          chudoudodelt April 27 2014 13: 48
          +4
          Well, it's supposedly kids indulge. And the fact that these children will then kill people, deputy oligarchs do not think.
        3. atalef
          atalef April 27 2014 19: 38
          +2
          Quote: N7 Wanderer
          There is also how. And the swastikas are drawn, no more than on April 20, on Hitler's next birthday in Chelyabinsk. What kind of traveled article wrote?

          So I want to remember the words of Ranevskaya
          Zh.o.p.a. is, but not a word.
          Of course there are fascists and admirers of Hitler. To whom the author bucks. Minus article
          1. postman
            postman April 28 2014 00: 46
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Of course there are fascists and admirers of Hitler

            1. The Nazis are NOT connected with Hitler (and any pasta of those times was insulted when he was called a Nazi, and the Nazis generally attacked if they were called fascists
            2. the author does not understand the terms: fascist, Nazi, phalanx
            Fascist became a household name, probably after the film "ordinary fascism" by Mikhail Romm

            3. The law, actually not for Russia, but will allow someone (who yells Sal) to attract
            1. nika407
              nika407 April 28 2014 07: 26
              0
              Fascism (Italian fascismo, from fascio - bundle, bundle, association) - ideology, political movement and social practice, which are characterized by the following [six] signs and features:
              [1] a racially motivated justification for the superiority and exclusivity of one dominant nation proclaimed by virtue of this;
              [2] intolerance and discrimination towards other “alien”, “hostile” nations and national minorities;
              [3] denial of democracy and human rights;
              [4] the imposition of a regime based on the principles of totalitarian-corporate statehood, single-party system and leaderism;
              [5] the assertion of violence and terror in order to suppress a political adversary and any form of dissent;
              [6] the militarization of society, the creation of paramilitary groups and the justification of war as a means of solving interstate problems.
              Fascism leads to the complete denial of human rights and freedoms; it carries a potential and real threat to the peace and security of mankind.
              What is Nazism? See point 1 - ideology and practice are based on the superiority of one race over another.
              It is strange to say that this has nothing to do with Hitler.
              1. postman
                postman April 28 2014 10: 56
                +2
                Quote: nika407
                What is Nazism? See point 1

                I, besides Wikipedia, read a lot of other things and I know. No need to bother.
                I advise you not to read (fluently) but to read and analyze

                Crap that you wrote -NI HOW MUCH does it correspond to classical fascism under Mussolini (actually when fascism was formed).
                3,4,5,6- USSR under Satlin, and not only
                Strange you see item 1 - this
                Quote: nika407
                What is Nazism?
                , and what is clause 3,4,5,6-A?
                Nazism and fascism are two different ideologies, not only with different principles from each other, but also not at all odnripnakoy symbols
                1. Benito Mussolini rejected racial theory:
                Race! This feeling, not reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races exist today. Funnily enough, not one of those who proclaimed the “greatness” of the Teutonic race was a German. Gobino was a Frenchman, Houston Chamberlain - an Englishman, Voltman - a Jew, Lapuzh - a Frenchman.
                2. From 1927 to 1943, the State Special Tribunal received allegations of political crimes against approximately 21000 people; Of these, 15381 were acquitted by a preliminary investigation.
                Physically (if I'm not mistaken) something destroyed about 700 persons of Jewish nationality, but in court.
                3. Fascism is trying to weave the nation anew through the dominant function of the state.
                4.Most, even fairly educated people, most often they don’t know that there is a difference, and quite a big one, between Mussolini’s fascism and Hitler’s National Socialism.
                MINUS of course put me stupid and poorly educated man.
                and lastly, I recommend:
                January 31, 1947, Sov. secretly

                Record of conversation comrade I.V. Stalin
                with leaders of the Socialist Unity Party of Germany
                V. Peak, O. Grotevolem, V. Ulbricht, M. Fechner and F. Elsner

                Historical and Documentary Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Center for the Study of Contemporary History in Potsdam, "USSR and the German Question. 1941-1949. Documents from the Archive of the Foreign Policy of the Russian Federation", M. "International Relations", 2003, pp. 244-253.


                1948: "National-Democratic Party of Germany "(Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands, NDPD)

                One of these appeals, on behalf of the 4th Party Congress of the NPD, was particularly curious that the top 119 signatures under it were accompanied by an indication of the ranks of the signatories in the Wehrmacht and the SS, as well as the posts they held in Hitler Youth, BDM (Hitler Girl Scout Organization) or Reichsarbeitsdienst (imperial labor service).
      3. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 27 2014 10: 59
        +7
        I absolutely agree with you on a very necessary law .. the main thing is that it would act then the situation in Ukraine will definitely not happen again .. plus hi
      4. Validator
        Validator April 27 2014 11: 39
        +3
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The State Duma has banned the propaganda of Nazism. Completely. Irrevocably
        Everything is correct .. Ukraine is an example of this.

        I think not least of all just about Ukraine and thought. Now we have such a law and you can poke all Natsik in their shit
      5. Sandov
        Sandov April 27 2014 12: 01
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The State Duma has banned the propaganda of Nazism. Completely. Irrevocably
        Everything is correct .. Ukraine is an example of this.

        It is necessary to work ahead of the curve; the Americans of the Wahhabis are everywhere feeding and inciting us.
      6. mirag2
        mirag2 April 27 2014 18: 31
        +1
        Ukraine is an example, and here are its "emissaries":
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 April 28 2014 00: 54
          0
          Guys, who knows, why did they strip them to their underpants? And why did they roll their eyes? I think this does not give them honor
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 24
            -1
            But the shtob did not run away. The guys are not easy. They need to be protected either by difficult guys who are not enough, or crushed and immobilized as much as possible. That is immobilization, psychological pressure and sensory deprivation. Not ice, of course, but a la ger, well, further in meaning ...
    2. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia April 27 2014 07: 20
      +34
      It would not hurt to ban Zionism!
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BC_%D0%B2_%

      D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0




      PS
      To the regiment of Jewish sponsors of the banderlog junta arrived:


      Mark Zuckerberg may become a sponsor of the candidate for president of Ukraine from the Radical Party


      The founder of the Facebook social network Mark Zuckerberg can take part in financing the election campaign of the leader of the Radical Party of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko. As a source surrounded by a presidential candidate of Ukraine told RIA Novosti, negotiations are already underway with the head of the Facebook monitoring department.
      http://russian.rt.com/article/29478
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 April 27 2014 07: 29
        +11
        Zuckerberg is stupid like a cork.
        He only in demand for services guessed the trend, seeing its direction in the circle of his communication.
        A genius from the back end.
      2. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake April 27 2014 07: 52
        +13
        Hitler brought to power and Jewish money ...
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia April 27 2014 12: 56
          +5
          To this reptile, we no longer crap:

          1. cheega69
            cheega69 April 27 2014 20: 48
            +4
            Iron nerves in guys, I would have charged into a melon.
      3. koshaus
        koshaus April 27 2014 07: 52
        +9
        Judaism should be banned as a religion that promotes Nazism, quotations: "according to the Cabal, if a non-Jew looked at Jewish wine in an unsealed bottle, it is forbidden for a Jew to drink such wine."
        "The sages also forbade a Jew to drink milk milked by a non-Jew, both in natural form and in the form of any dairy products. However, it becomes permitted if from the very beginning of milking there was a Jew present who checked the purity of the vessel where the milk was given" and etc. etc.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 07: 58
          +5
          Quote: koshaus
          if a non-Jew looks at Jewish wine in an unsealed bottle, it is forbidden for a Jew to drink such wine "

          And if the Russian married the Hebrews? Hebrews are no longer Jewish or the rabbi has to re-circumcise himself laughing
          You are probably one of those who at the mention of the Jews with longing remember that Buchenwald is closed.
          You can love any nation, or you can hate it, but at the same time the main thing is not to go crazy.
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          2. Sandov
            Sandov April 27 2014 12: 04
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And if the Russian married the Hebrews? Hebrews are no longer Jewish or the rabbi has to re-circumcise himself

            Jew to Jew, as in any nation there are villains, and there are heroes.
            1. koshaus
              koshaus April 27 2014 16: 12
              0
              It depends on what is considered rascalism and what is heroism, for some these concepts have completely opposite fullness. That for one villain, then for another hero ...
            2. tanit
              tanit April 27 2014 16: 56
              +5
              There is a Wasserman. There is Shenderovich. Both are Jews, but so different. hi
          3. koshaus
            koshaus April 27 2014 15: 56
            0
            If you have a brain, and it has gyrus, then you should undoubtedly notice that what I wrote needs to ban Judaism, not Jews. I hope you do not need to explain the difference between a Jew and a Jew? Learn to see the main thing, Mr. bath attendant ...
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          6. Free Island
            Free Island April 29 2014 04: 25
            0
            just a Jew and a Jew all the same different concepts :)) I think so ..
        2. jjj
          jjj April 27 2014 16: 06
          0
          Quote: koshaus
          Milk, bored by a non-Jew, the sages also forbade the Jew to drink - both in-kind and in the form of any dairy products. ABOUT

          This milk, baked on Saturdays, was exhibited at the door so that anyone who needed it could take it for free. And it was called - FREEZE
      4. I do not care
        I do not care April 27 2014 08: 32
        +23
        Quote: GreatRussia
        To the regiment of Jewish sponsors of the banderlog junta arrived:
      5. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 27 2014 08: 46
        -2
        Sometimes it still seems to me that we are controlled by reptilians wassat
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 27 2014 12: 05
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Sometimes it still seems to me that we are controlled by reptilians wassat

          Do you mean aliens?
          1. nika407
            nika407 April 28 2014 07: 36
            +1
            Quote: Sandov
            Do you mean aliens?
            I take the liberty of assuming that Mr. Rothschild and the Rockefellers were meant. Looking at Kerry I can’t get rid of the feeling that I am seeing a true reptiloid.
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 26
          -1
          Sometimes it still seems to me that we were controlled by Reptiloids wassat


          By you, yes, yes.
      6. 120352
        120352 April 27 2014 09: 16
        0
        Just in case, everything must be prohibited so as not to miss ...
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      8. Tanechka-clever
        Tanechka-clever April 27 2014 09: 45
        +25
        "to ban Zionism" - I agree.
        Zionism is in the most perverted form of National Socialism. There is nothing wrong with nationalism until it turns into Nazism - superiority over others. Zionism - today, with one hand, it compels obeisances to carry out the HOLOCAUST, and its denial in Europe is for some reason prosecuted by law, but on the other hand, we must not forget that it is the Jewish community that is stirring up the war in Ukraine today and is sponsoring fascism in Ukraine with the other hand - Soros, Kolomoisky, Khodorkovsky, Nemtsov. And yesterday, the same sponsored Nazism - in Nazi Germany. Therefore, Nazism and fascism are not separable when the fascist junta is in power and uses the ideology of Nazism as it is today in Ukraine and as it was in Germany. Nazism is an ideology - capable of mutilating a nation, but Zionism is not against it - because it mutilates others is multiplying itself. Money doesn’t smell, and world domination is both money and power, as practical Jewish Americans like. I warn in advance - I am not against the Jews, just as those who condemned Nazism in Germany are not against the German
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 April 27 2014 10: 05
          +9
          Quote: Tanya-umunechka
          Holocaust, and its denial in Europe is for some reason prosecuted by law, but on the other hand we must not forget that

          Zionism was equated with fascism !!!!
          if the thought said A, I must say B and C (Wahhabi fascism) ....
          this poster in Donetsk, what is not fascism ????
          why did VV Putin and the thought do not react to this how ????

          and if, instead of Muscovite was the word Jew, WHAT HERE HAS STARTED IN THE MEDIA OF THE WEST AND RUSSIA ....
          And THEN UNDER THIS LAW, AGAIN ONLY RUSSIAN PATRIOTS WILL BE PLANTED .....

          I THINK THAT THIS LAW IS DIRECTED AGAINST RUSSIANS AND ITS ADOPTION TO THE CONSCIENCE of the Zion lobby in Russia !!!!
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 April 27 2014 12: 18
            +12
            Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            What a scream would rise when a price was announced for a Jew!
            And for the Russian, please, the Jewish oligarch will pay for the capture, torture and other Russian !!!!!!!!!!!
            You can call a Russian who you want, how you want to insult, and the Russian destiny is to be tolerant.
            And do not forget about the allegedly generated by him (but in fact by the Jews-Bolsheviks) - "Stalin the Beast" - as on the Nazi posters of the Second World War.
            I just wish a purely fair relationship with us.
            Or how are you to us, so we are to you!
            Where is anti-Semitism here ???????????
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 36
            -1
            and if, instead of Muscovite was the word Jew, WHAT HERE HAS STARTED IN THE MEDIA OF THE WEST AND RUSSIA ....
            And THEN UNDER THIS LAW, AGAIN ONLY RUSSIAN PATRIOTS WILL BE PLANTED .....


            You see, the situation here is pretty simple. Do not use Nazi symbols during protests or actions, and for God's sake, protest against migrants. Tell me why opponents of migration lawlessness need to shave their heads, wear grinders and draw swastikas, albeit stylized ones? You need to understand that migrants are grandmothers. And under capitalism, grandmothers are sacred. Therefore, no one will expel migrants. But if you like the way migrants behave, sign up for the people's guards and patrol the streets of the city. And then it will be possible to call migrants to order without any "Sieg Heil" and without raids on the government.
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 April 27 2014 12: 12
          +1
          Very true +++++++++++++++
      9. koshaus
        koshaus April 28 2014 11: 33
        0
        It is necessary to ban Judaism as a man-hating religion, the whole essence of which is "not a Jew worse than an animal." Quote: "Telling the goyim something about our religious relations is tantamount to killing all Jews, because if they knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."
    3. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 35
      -10%
      Not this way. There are fascists. Now there is a law. The problem has not been resolved yet. But it will be decided whether you never know those who "zigal" now - few - now "zigali", which used to be "zigali" - the normal ones already turn on the brain. Solstice or swastika, in essence, is the same and also as a symbol. Bandera and the Russian world are essentially different things. Those who were Russian nationalists will not become Banderites. Although, I personally don't care who to shoot.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 27 2014 08: 04
        +5
        Quote: tanit
        Bandera and the Russian world are essentially different things. Those who were Russian nationalists - will not Bandera. Though, I personally in hell who to shoot.

        Your list is suspiciously small. About "shooting": is it your hobby or earning your daily bread?
        1. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 09: 37
          +4
          Hobby. Personal. I earn exclusively monetary allowance.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 10: 56
            +1
            Quote: tanit
            Hobby. Personal

            You have already left. Do not go far from the computer.
            1. tanit
              tanit April 27 2014 11: 03
              +6
              I didn’t leave behind. And the rest, until I reported on the departure. hi
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 27 2014 15: 53
                0
                Quote: tanit
                And the rest - have not yet reported on their departure.

                Test answer + good
      2. Sandov
        Sandov April 27 2014 12: 07
        +1
        Quote: tanit
        Although, I personally care about who to shoot.

        What about the Wahhabis and the like?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS April 27 2014 12: 58
          +4
          Quote: Sandov
          What about the Wahhabis and the like?


          In consumption.
        2. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 16: 45
          0
          The likes of them are just zigheilers. I don’t see the difference.
    4. Suvorov
      Suvorov April 27 2014 10: 47
      +3
      Unfortunately, in Russia any law can be made a "weapon" directed against any group of the population. Today, the authorities fear the growing Russian national-patriotic movement, but tomorrow? Many jingoistic patriots calling on this site for military intervention in Ukraine may themselves turn out to be "extremists", since there is an article for "calls for war", and many adherents of "social justice" may well "fit" the definition of "inciting social discord "for appeals to take everything away from the oligarchs and send them to Kolyma." If the authorities wish, of course. The authorities will always strive to use any public sentiment for their own purposes and to limit trends that are dangerous for it. The article is topical and poses the correct problem of "blurring the boundaries" of law enforcement practice. Because those who will perform, especially in the so-called national republics, will not "bother" too much.
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    6. Homo
      Homo April 27 2014 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: Children Bury the Horse
      As simple as that, he issued a law and the problem is solved.
      No, it’s not solved, just the basis is needed, and the basis is the law.
    7. milann
      milann April 27 2014 15: 01
      0
      Quote: Children Bury the Horse
      As simple as that, he issued a law and the problem is solved.

      Of course, not just, but the law is necessary and important.
    8. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 19: 37
      +1
      The problem is and remains. Just now there is also the Law. Previously, there was only a problem.
  2. mig31
    mig31 April 27 2014 07: 16
    +3
    Maybe this is a bust, but not everything is as simple as it seems, fascism must be stifled in the bud ...
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 47
      +3
      I agree with you.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 27 2014 08: 22
        -1
        Quote: tanit
        I agree with you

        Read above: 11111mail.ru RU Today, 08:20. TO you this also applies.
        1. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 09: 43
          +2
          I read it. Uvazhap your opinion. And I remain in my opinion.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 08: 20
      +4
      Quote: mig31
      choke fascism is necessary in the bud

      As long as there is a division into the poor and the rich, into the goyim and the "chosen people", into the electorate and oligarchs, the problem cannot be "strangled in the bud". You cannot stop the Antichrist by making the sign of the Cross three times and shouting "mind me". An idea can only be defeated by another, more progressive idea (not by me, much earlier).
      1. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 09: 40
        +5
        And if a Jew died in the battle for Russia, who is he? And if he, dying, did not quote the Torah, but cursed in Russian? Who is he?
        1. officer29
          officer29 April 27 2014 10: 05
          +11
          Quote: tanit
          And if a Jew died in the battle for Russia, who is he?

          Like who? Of course RUSSIAN! Back in the old days of the Russian Empire, there was no division in the Army along ethnic lines, but only on religious grounds! Everyone drafted into the Russian Army became a RUSSIAN SOLDIER! And this was recognized all over the world! Until now, by inertia, all immigrants from the former USSR are called RUSSIANS! There is even an anecdote: All my life in Russia I was called "a Jew's face", and when I moved to live in America, I became RUSSIAN! soldier
          1. tanit
            tanit April 27 2014 10: 14
            +5
            That's what I'm talking about. He died for Russia-Russian. And everything else is crap.
        2. Sandov
          Sandov April 27 2014 12: 11
          +5
          Quote: tanit
          And if a Jew died in the battle for Russia, who is he? And if he, dying, did not quote the Torah, but cursed in Russian? Who is he?

          It’s not enough that we have Jews who sincerely love their homeland - Russia, but there will always be a woodpecker ...
        3. mirag2
          mirag2 April 27 2014 18: 19
          0
          The Jew who died for Russia, just a Jew, is not a Russophobe, but swears or read the Torah, no difference!
        4. atalef
          atalef April 27 2014 19: 43
          -3
          Quote: tanit
          And if a Jew died in the battle for Russia, who is he? And if he, dying, did not quote the Torah, but cursed in Russian? Who is he?

          And if the one who died for the USSR quoted the torus, is that not a hero anymore?
          You read the comments and understand the correct law. There are fascists and they must be crushed in the bud.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 43
            0
            Those who perish for the USSR will not quote Torah. He either wants to be far away in the rear, or he will wash himself out of the country altogether.
        5. atalef
          atalef April 27 2014 19: 43
          -1
          Quote: tanit
          And if a Jew died in the battle for Russia, who is he? And if he, dying, did not quote the Torah, but cursed in Russian? Who is he?

          And if the one who died for the USSR quoted the torus, is that not a hero anymore?
          You read the comments and understand the correct law. There are fascists and they must be crushed in the bud.
          1. tanit
            tanit April 27 2014 20: 10
            +1
            A hero, but you still swear, but did not quote. And there is no difference -SSSR or Russia. Or Israel. Or Syria. Everywhere, where nonhumans kill people - for me there is no difference. - Inhumans should not live.
      2. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 09: 51
        0
        I do not care. Poor or rich. I am not circumcised and not rightful. I serve my country. And, although I took the oath of the USSR, I now serve the country that I consider my Homeland. (Well, how to get around the oath without swearing again - you probably are in the course. If not, then it's not my fault.)
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 27 2014 15: 37
          0
          Quote: tanit
          I serve my country. And, although I took the oath of the USSR, I now serve the country that I consider my Homeland.

          Homeland is ROD-in. A place where your relatives, relatives, parents degenerated. Not where they will pay "well", but where your descendants will live, where your children will continue your ROD. Recall the song from the film director Basov's "Shield and Sword" (fourth? Series): "Where does the Motherland begin ... It is my happiness that a year before the collapse of the USSR, I broke through to Fatherland and later served on earth as" ottich and dedich ".
          1. tanit
            tanit April 27 2014 16: 53
            +2
            I was born in Penza., Russia. Now I serve in Kazakhstan, the foreign territory of Russia. They pay. Now. Previously, they did not pay, and in debt. Served and serve. I didn’t run away then and I won’t betray now. MOTHERLAND - not only where it was born. And not only where they pay. hi
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 46
              -1
              I was born in Penza., Russia. Now I serve in Kazakhstan, the foreign territory of Russia. They pay. Now. Previously, they did not pay, and in debt. Served and serve. I didn’t run away then and I won’t betray now.


              Those. if you have to shoot Russian, will you shoot?
    3. SHILO
      SHILO April 27 2014 08: 23
      +14
      "The State Duma has banned the propaganda of Nazism."
      "Here's what article is definitely high time to introduce - so this is for insulting the Russian people."


      I don’t understand one thing what. How did the respected author manage to link in the article the responsibility for the propaganda of fascism and the responsibility for insulting the Russian people? And for what? Things are unrelated at first glance.
      I dare to make an assumption that they are nevertheless connected - by a cunning demagogy about responsibility for insulting the Russian people, the respected one is trying to cover up the nationalist wing of Russia, the essence of which (Ukraine is the clearest example) is banal fascism sad.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner April 27 2014 10: 26
        +2
        Hi Kostya! hi
        Maybe just first read the law, and only then discuss it? And even better, one of the lawyers in detail examined all the legal nuances of this law. The article, however, clearly does not fit into the usual format for VO, but this does not matter. For the sake of such a thing, other authors can move on ...
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        1. SHILO
          SHILO April 27 2014 11: 27
          +2
          Good morning Jura! hi
          Quote: retired
          Maybe just first read the law, and only then discuss it?

          I agree with you completely. Without this, a chatter of kitchen-street turns out. But I’m afraid the purpose of the article was precisely to reduce this serious issue to the level I mentioned above, emotions. That's why the thought voiced by the post above visited me.
          1. SHILO
            SHILO April 27 2014 11: 45
            +5
            By the way!
            Drew attention to the latest news from Soledar?
            The worst part is that my modest analytical skills in this fucking country are starting to work.
            Not long ago, right after the seizure of Slavyansk by the "separatists" I had a conversation with my wife. She made the assumption that this town was a victim of the presence of a large railway junction, and I assumed that the whole thing was in the weapons depots, the barrels from which would be enough for the entire South-East.
            And tonight, this thought began to take shape. what
            1. bubalik
              bubalik April 27 2014 11: 51
              +2
              SHILO (2) UA  Today, 11: 45 And ​​tonight this thought began to take on material outlines what


              ,,, try a larger scale (do not limit yourself to the framework of one area) yes ,,, can materialize ,,, repeat
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            3. pensioner
              pensioner April 27 2014 12: 08
              +2
              Kostya, enlighten. Warehouses in Soledar are under whose control? And then they say different things.
              1. SHILO
                SHILO April 27 2014 12: 30
                +2
                In fact, the "separatists" are in control - and there are indirect confirmations of this. In general, the information is reliable minuscule request ... I have a source in Slavyansk, but from the grassroots (on Friday, through him I gave a package to the "terrorists" smile ), and so you can’t achieve much from him. Privacy mode there at the level yes .
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner April 27 2014 13: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: SHILO
                  Privacy mode there at the level

                  Well, thank God. And the commander they need.
            4. alicante11
              alicante11 April 28 2014 03: 49
              -1
              And tonight, this thought M. began to take on the material outlines of what


              The question is, why then are these warehouses still intact? Didn't they become the basis for self-defense weapons? Why were they guarded by a checkpoint with 4 unarmed militias? Why did the "paratroopers", after clearing the checkpoint, not go to the warehouses, but got away?
              Due to my even more modest analytical abilities, I can assume that either there is already nothing in those warehouses, or ... the thought stops at that (s).
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              1. Apollo
                Apollo April 27 2014 21: 21
                +1
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru

                Quote: SHILO
                SHILO


                ............ and now I ask to be extremely correct to each other and not to test my patience.
        2. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 17: 19
          0
          I have been. In a straight line. So what? You have described the awl in great detail - do you often use it? And words, words .... laughing
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru April 27 2014 20: 35
            0
            Quote: tanit
            I have been. In a straight line. So what?

            It means "calculated".
            Quote: tanit
            You have described the awl in great detail - do you often use it?

            You need to know the enemy, all the ins and outs, weak, strong points, methods of dealing with him. The liver is still intact, thank God! I use it by bending five fingers: How much? With whom? Where? When? For what reason? But personally, I prefer good "sukhach" or wines fermented from juices from my site, using my technology of "open" fermentation. Cherries are clarified within a month, currants for one and a half months, apples for two or two and a half months.
            Quote: tanit
            And words, words

            I am responsible for the "bazaar". Moderators will not let you lie. I don’t go into my pocket for a word.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech April 27 2014 07: 17
    +18
    "Russian fascists" does not exist in nature, and the law against them now exists


    Lies, they are ... only now is not their time and those who support them naively believe that the Russian Nazis are GOOD AND PEACE.
    I’m worried about something else ... that under the guise of the fight against Nazism, some officials will begin to pursue their policy of REDUCING THE RIGHTS OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE.

    When a hot lad from the mountains of the Caucasus breaking the law somewhere MOSCOW or VILLAGE GADYUKINO
    they put their brains in place and local officials see it as Nazism.
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 52
      +3
      Well, and when the burning lad is not from the Caucasus, the law is not written? And Nazism dash fascism in my face put it in place with the use of beating? Law is law. And I personally do not care if Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Russian, whether it will violate it.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov April 27 2014 12: 14
        +5
        Quote: tanit
        Well, and when the burning lad is not from the Caucasus, the law is not written? And Nazism dash fascism in my face put it in place with the use of beating? Law is law. And I personally do not care if Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Russian, whether it will violate it.

        When there will be more than 50% of us, the Americans will crush us.
        1. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 17: 31
          -2
          It seems that never. Regrettably, it is possible to bring up a single son, a separate daughter, separate guys who served with me separately. But, on the other hand, now it’s ... crushing me. hi
  4. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 27 2014 07: 18
    +3
    Quote: mig31
    Maybe this is a bust, but not everything is as simple as it seems, fascism must be stifled in the bud ...

    It is better to abide in this situation than not to abide. Our liberals will not only play fascists for the sake of the collapse of Russia am
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 27 2014 07: 24
      +4
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      Better to abide in this situation than not to abide

      It’s better to stick to the GOLDEN MIDDLE, otherwise we will always rush from one extreme to another ...
      1. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 07: 56
        +1
        Better, as you said. When it’s better that it doesn’t work out, then you don’t have to stick to the golden mean.
    2. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 27 2014 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      to abide than not to abide.

      According to this psychology, for a photo with Kinchev and for the remark "I am Russian" they can send me to the kitsch ... Why: propaganda of Nazism! winked
      1. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 09: 57
        +2
        According to this psychology, you will be sent where you want for a photo with Makarevich. Or Shenderovich. And Kostya Panfilov (aka Kinchev) is not from this team. "Time will tell who is worth what in this baiga" Time also arranged. Kinchev is a man. Makarevich = Shenderovich.
  5. family tree
    family tree April 27 2014 07: 25
    +2
    what Will we take Ukraine? To the RF? All? Achoa, just for PS and Svoboda law request
  6. Name
    Name April 27 2014 07: 25
    +3
    The propaganda of fascism and the insult of the Russian people are one and the same, if you wish, you can "fail".
  7. mr_Doom
    mr_Doom April 27 2014 07: 25
    +1
    PFF there are they, now it is difficult to distinguish them from punks (purely outwardly), and so they are heaps ... I mean whole groups of people of 20. At the parades for the `` Russians '' the core is they. They are so-called booms.
  8. karpov888
    karpov888 April 27 2014 07: 29
    +1
    it’s clear that they don’t go home with agitation, let’s try, we have enough freaks who don’t see fascists in Kiev, like Khodorkovsky, Ponomarev and Makarevich. the law aims to prevent Ukrainian lawlessness in Russia! and no need to twist the terms.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 08: 24
      +2
      Quote: karpov888
      the law aims to prevent Ukrainian lawlessness in Russia!

      It was not necessary for three people to break up the USSR in 1991.
  9. Sergg
    Sergg April 27 2014 07: 31
    +1
    The most important thing is that our statesmen do not lose the understanding that Russia is primarily of Russian nature, the concept of Russian fascism is a legal incident, this is not in society. There is Russian ultranationalism, although a dangerous phenomenon, since it has nothing to do with Russian patriotism, it cannot be called fascism either.
  10. pv1005
    pv1005 April 27 2014 07: 33
    +4
    Nazism is not just a young fool who draws swastikas in an elevator, not a young provocateur from the near Moscow region.


    From such obliques (onyzhedety) later, Yarosh and tyagniboki grow. So you have to beat now, but then it will be too late.
  11. mr_Doom
    mr_Doom April 27 2014 07: 34
    -3
    Quote: Sergg
    The most important thing is that our statesmen do not lose the understanding that Russia is primarily of Russian nature, the concept of Russian fascism is a legal incident, this is not in society. There is Russian ultranationalism, although a dangerous phenomenon, since it has nothing to do with Russian patriotism, it cannot be called fascism either.
    Hitler pushed something similar in the beginning lol
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 39
      0
      Hitler che-thread you read? No? Well and on - it's straight and a little to the right.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 08: 27
      +3
      Quote: mr_Doom
      Hitler pushed something similar in the beginning lol

      Provide a QUOTE from the original source!
      1. mr_Doom
        mr_Doom April 27 2014 09: 16
        -1
        It is clear that I wrote nonsense, if taken literally. It meant that from such `` nonsense '' the fascists grow up. In Russia, there are dofiga peoples, peoples who have lived here for a very long time. Having started to promote such ideas very soon we will notice that their spread rot will begin, and by will the fascists PROFIT!
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 27 2014 16: 49
          0
          Quote: mr_Doom
          It is clear that I wrote nonsenseif taken literally

          I have no objections.
          Quote: mr_Doom
          ... It meant that from such `` nonsense '' the fascists grow up.

          In order for the "onezhedeti" to grow to the size of a working model, these creatures of Satan must be fed and fed, nursed and trained, and, finally, sent to the object to be destroyed. If it was openly announced about 5,5 billion dollars from 1991 to 2014 for feeding the BEAST, then indicate the sources and amounts of funding for the mythical "russo-fascist" against which "regulations" have been prepared ahead of time? I give a tip: m. a certain Platon Yelenin sponsored "Russo-fascisto"? Why did he get "... from his horse."?
          Quote: mr_Doom
          Starting to promote such ideas very soon we will notice

          I tried to find on the Internet a link to a Zionist provocateur-idiot, seemingly from St. Petersburg in 1993, distributing leaflets with anti-Zionist-Black Hundred content, which the competent authorities first took for testicles, but then, under pressure from the invaders, were released without disassembly. But no, after all: cleaned up! So we notice: preventive measures have been prepared, the guilty have been appointed, it remains only to give the command to the FAS! And "Beitar" will support them and the State Department will finance them and His Holiness will consecrate ...
          1. tanit
            tanit April 27 2014 17: 24
            0
            And you try to read something easier, your psyche is somehow not quite stable. Read - "The Little Prince", or something. hi
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru April 28 2014 17: 16
              0
              Quote: tanit
              Read - "The Little Prince", or something.

              Claims for intelligence? Did not impress. A fan of punitive measures a priori cannot have responsibility for those who have been tamed, for your very hard positioning ONLY on punitive measures does not imply a tendency to analyze and empathize with the person brought up. Zagradotryadovtsy, for some reason, do not die extreme, but the last.
      2. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 10: 03
        0
        DO NOT provoke, SOURCE in normal countries is FORBIDDEN. And accordingly, I will not present it and, moreover, quote you.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 27 2014 17: 50
          +1
          Quote: tanit
          Not provаquote

          Sorry, I don't cross with you for the second time (maybe for the third), but I have the same role - spelling. Provocation is not a Russian word, but nevertheless "provocation" in the second vowel we observe the letter "o", therefore "provocation" is exactly what you are doing.
          Quote: tanit
          SOURCE ..., beforeаto put it and even more so to quote you-I will not.

          Repetition is the mother of learning. This time, you, nothing hesitating, easily changed the "o" to "a". Check word: "deliver", dostАwka, finally (wind up on the "end" and remember the order of applying the test words, child of perestroika!). Arguing without arguments is a fight, do you need it? Put on your gloves and climb the ropes: into the ring, into the ring!
          1. tanit
            tanit April 27 2014 20: 18
            -2
            AND? Did my ignorance comfort you? And should I answer with an analysis of your personal literacy? wassat
      3. IRBIS
        IRBIS April 27 2014 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Quote: mr_Doom
        Hitler pushed something similar in the beginning lol

        Provide a QUOTE from the original source!

        There are more than enough of them! And if you have read Hitler's speeches at party congresses, you will find them without any difficulty. And about "injustice in relation to Germany and the German people," and "the greatness of Siegfried's descendants." Gently and not intrusive, at the very beginning ... Well, you don't need to look for the results, everyone knows them.
        And so you are right - the source is very important. Especially if you read it yourself, and not refer to someone’s opinion.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 27 2014 17: 52
          +1
          Quote: IRBIS
          the source is very important. Especially if you read it yourself, and not refer to someone’s opinion.

          There are no objections! good
  12. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 27 2014 07: 36
    0
    And will they issue shooting licenses?
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 44
      -3
      What for? The right to shoot is already defined by law. Well, not for shooting, and without removing the scalp, and without showing the ears .... But -ono, right, already exists. Personally, I will not disdain to use it, by legal right.
  13. dim242
    dim242 April 27 2014 07: 45
    +2
    I don’t know a single National Socialist party in Russia there are a bunch of national "s" for me it’s better for moderate right-wing nationalists in ties who will defend their interests in power than the marching boys without a program and without a “head” who scare off law-abiding citizens IMHO it will be the leading party may therefore be reinsured, but for now nationalism is a dirty word and only
  14. Grenz
    Grenz April 27 2014 07: 48
    +3
    Nazism is not just a young fool who draws swastikas in an elevator, not a young provocateur from the near Moscow region.
    This is the author, I'm sorry how it relates to your statements about the rule of law. Who gave you the right to give such assessments.
    By court order, it’s your MOSCOW a young provocateur in the Manege Square staged a sabbath.
    And they knocked them out on such actions MOSCOW patrons.
    Be careful in the estimates. In the suburbs, everything is calm and we do not draw swastikas on houses. Once. We study and work.
  15. be0560
    be0560 April 27 2014 07: 52
    +2
    But Zuckerberg is really very stupid, I agree with one of the authors of the comments, if he does not understand that sponsoring the campaign campaign for Lyashko’s imperfection, he shakes himself a stool on which he stands with a noose around his neck. Lord, where are so many idiots ???
  16. valersvet
    valersvet April 27 2014 07: 52
    0
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    And will they issue shooting licenses?

    hunting farms are ready, waiting, collecting membership fees and GO! bully
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 07: 59
      0
      Where to transfer contributions? drinks
  17. sem-yak
    sem-yak April 27 2014 08: 02
    +2
    Patriotism should be brought up on LOVE for the MOTHERLAND, and not on the basis of hatred for enemies! In respect of HISTORY, and not the desecration of other people's relics! We must educate wise people and surround them with respect, and not call the contingent, electorate, masses, etc.! And then there will be no Nazism or fascism or other manifestations of extremism!
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 18: 07
      0
      Quote: sem-yak
      Patriotism should be brought up on LOVE for the MOTHERLAND

      Have a suggestion? No objection!
      Quote: sem-yak
      extиMisma!

      Should not take "extraиm "close to my heart. This is something else. Read the correct definition of extremism below:
      Extremum (from Latin extremum - extreme), the value of a continuous function f (x), which is either a maximum or a minimum. Conclusion (mine, at least): before "teaching" each other "concepts", let's learn how to communicate normally with each other. No wonder the classic, the author of "Woe from Wit", a certain namesake of A.S. Pushkin = A.S. Griboyedov uttered: "The confusion of languages ​​still prevails:
      French with Nizhny Novgorod? -
      - A mixture of languages?
      - Yes, two, you can't live without it "...
      We have here both Russian and Ma-a-skovskiy, Kazakh and Yiddish and also x "en knows what!"
      1. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 20: 28
        0
        Well, it's beautiful. How is it in the new Russian - Test? Do you speak of the purity of the language? Themselves, not without reproach? Why don't you use all the letters? There were somehow more of them than now.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 28 2014 17: 40
          0
          There were many letters in the writing of the Cherokee tribe. However, it turned out that the letter is syllabic. You and Mr. George Geest or the leader of the "Sequoia" don't stand close, so take it easy about my literacy. You "use" it. Unlike you, I finished 8 classes of an ordinary Soviet high school. Many thanks to my teachers who taught me how to adequately express my thoughts! I express my sincere condolences to your teachers for the failure of the teaching process. Probably "there was no feed for the horse", and maybe the beads were thrown in the wrong place and not to the right one. You don't have to answer. I am stopping the correspondence with you because you are simply not interesting to me. I respect a smart opponent, arguing with whom it is necessary to strain the convolutions and replenish the baggage of knowledge. Alas, with you it was gray, depressing and vulgar. hi
  18. Greenhorn
    Greenhorn April 27 2014 08: 03
    +3
    Our power is shaking for our beloved.
    1. Sour
      Sour April 27 2014 15: 12
      -1
      Aren't you shaking for yourself?
  19. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 27 2014 08: 07
    +2
    and are we barbarians? civilization of Europe, from you all the filth on the planet !!!
    1. Rusin Dima
      Rusin Dima April 27 2014 08: 20
      +3
      We at least do not cut giraffes in front of children
    2. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 08: 26
      +1
      We are not barbarians. (neither YOU nor me). we are cultural people. And now, when I beat the face of the gopnik, regardless of his nationality, I will know that he is a fascist. Not me. And it is right. And I'm not joking.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 April 27 2014 10: 45
        0
        Quote: tanit
        . And now, when I beat the face of the gopnik

        come. I know one "reserve" where they cluster. we overclocked a couple of times, but ... we will not refuse help fellow
        1. tanit
          tanit April 27 2014 11: 00
          0
          Yes, I have such "reserves" - the whole city. Busy, but would come on vacation.
  20. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 27 2014 08: 20
    +3
    And that only they will not come up against the Russians and Art. 282, both extremism and fascism are so afraid of us, they work to preempt against the most humble people. And in addition, they reinforce their fears financially - the latest development, armored in the 6th Ural class for internal troops, is called the URAL-4320VV.
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 10: 08
      +3
      Mom is Mordovian, grandmother is Mari ... Father is Nenets, grandfather is Transbaikal Cossack. The wife is a Kazakh. The question is who is my son? Well, who am I - I already know - Russian.
      1. sem-yak
        sem-yak April 27 2014 12: 13
        +3
        Great-grandfather on mother Kuntsevich Grandfather Yakovlev, Great-grandfather on father Bulanenko Grandfather Semenikhin, I am Russian my Motherland Russia Although I get Euro hahol by blood! The wife is half a dude. The question is - what nationality are my children? And does it matter if We (my whole family are Russians)?
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 27 2014 13: 02
          +2
          Quote: sem-yak
          Great-grandfather on mother Kuntsevich Grandfather Yakovlev, Great-grandfather on father Bulanenko Grandfather Semenikhin, I am Russian my Motherland Russia Although I get Euro hahol by blood! The wife is half a dude. The question is - what nationality are my children? And does it matter if We (my whole family are Russians)?

          You are not Russian, but simply Russian. It is wider and larger than the Russian.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 11
          0
          Quote: sem-yak
          The question is - what nationality are my children? And does it matter if We (my whole family are Russians)?

          Almost the same, and the youngest is married to a Tatar-Turkmen. So who is my granddaughter?
  21. Grbear
    Grbear April 27 2014 08: 24
    +4
    All this would be good, but there are two troubles.
    Bringing a good deed to the point of absurdity (protecting the rights of children is a juvenile thing) and freedom to interpret the laws (by the way in Nazism and vice versa) and to this, non-bindingness (performers cannot recover about 20 lard by court order and no one is hiding).
    And to accept and report to deputies is a holy cause. Fulfill others - and ask from them.
    IMHO, but laws are enough to solve almost all problems. No obligation or inevitability. And so - the office writes. hi
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 11: 10
      +1
      Do you personally spoil in your own entrance? I’m sure no. And now, even from afar, such a law from afar, no crap. And those who shit, with a fingernail. Really bad? You can think about our Duma a lot, and not always censorship. But now - they are right.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 13
        +1
        Quote: tanit
        But now - they are right.

        Who are they?
    2. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 17: 50
      0
      And what about the deputies? Separately, you give specific pizdulya specific to the undersized, drawing a specific swastika in your particular entrance. Or specifically shouting there. Deputies are not always needed. hi
  22. aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 27 2014 08: 27
    0
    No Nazis?

    But what about the followers of RNU and the Memory Society?

    I recommend that the author type in the search engine the desired one and he will be unpleasantly surprised by the rather long list of nationalist (and, in essence, their ideology - Nazi) organizations in Russia.

    In addition, the author confuses the concept of Nazism and radical nationalism.
    And the line between them is barely noticeable.

    If the viper is called snake, then the essence of the viper will not change.
    You need to look at the essence, not the name.
  23. Bayonet
    Bayonet April 27 2014 08: 45
    +8
    "Nazism is not just a juvenile fool who draws swastikas in an elevator ..." - big scoundrels grow out of juvenile fools, if not stopped in time ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 27 2014 10: 42
      +6
      Quote: Bayonet
      "Nazism is not just a juvenile fool who draws swastikas in an elevator ..." - big scoundrels grow out of juvenile fools, if not stopped in time ...

      While in our country the Russians will be on the right of the last in line, for those like your photo will be fertile ground. And it’s clear why. The law seems to be correct, but how will it work? According to 282 Art. Criminal Code of the Russian Federation sit only Russian.
      I am a nationalist, and proud of it. I love my country, my people. I have never considered that Russia is only for Russians, but I believe that Russia is only for the indigenous nationalities of Russia (citizenship). I believe that the Russian government should consist of the indigenous peoples of Russia, in the same percentage proportion as they live in the country, in relation to other nations. I do not like that some of the governments have dual citizenship, and having stolen in my country, they are hiding in their historical homeland, which does not give out their ethnic compatriots according to any requirements.
      Already these views of mine can be summed up under the "Great Russian" chauvinism, and Nazism. The law - what the drawbar, where it turned - there it came out. hi
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 27 2014 11: 23
        -1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        While in our country, the Russians will be on the right of the last in line

        Where does this complex of own inferiority come from ??? I am also Russian, but I do not consider myself in any way infringed!
      2. world52
        world52 April 27 2014 12: 06
        +4
        To love one’s people, one’s homeland and in a difficult time to defend one’s defense is patriotism. Hate other nations, insult them with actions only because they are of a different nationality-nationalism. I think you are a patriot, not a nationalist. I agree with you that there should not be people in the government, and in the civil service with dual citizenship. And now, after the Olympics and Crimea, patriots increased. There is reason to be proud of our country, our army. And, of course, by the fact that you are RUSSIAN!
    2. kare
      kare April 27 2014 12: 18
      +1
      This is not the Nazis
      These are young de.bills and de.generates, with the nth number of oligophrenics
      Before that, they chewed modified chips, washed down with phosphoric acid (cola)
      The fact that they themselves have painted on on the muzzles
      There was no side to fascism
      Ignorance
      Transitional age, urine in the head strikes
      Labor on the Yamal Peninsula, will restore their mental state
      Particularly zealous, implacable, count
      And everything in Russia will be glorious recourse
      And worse than Nazism-fascism, it’s Russian liberalism
  24. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 27 2014 08: 50
    +14
    It seems to me that the author is little familiar with the realities of life. Or he draws information exclusively from the media. The ideas of the NSDAP are very popular among a part of the population, mostly poorly educated, because they carry within themselves the requirements of the moment of imprisonment, such as: foreigners out there, work exclusively for the national majority, oligarchs to dispossess, property to nationalize them. In a word, take everything away and share. Do not forget that Hitler's rise to power was marked not only by Jewish pogroms by racial cleansing, but also by such an economic phenomenon as community service, which allowed the poor and hungry after the Versailles Peace Germany to eat plenty. Yes, the capital of transnational corporations was involved, and with the funds raised, Hitler gave the ragged Germany chintz to cover the shame, and a piece of bread with ersatz butter. This, coupled with excellent propaganda, has become the reason for popular support for the NSDAP initiatives. It is unjustified to think that the people of Germany simply gregariously followed Hitler with his crazy ideas of world domination; there were other prerequisites.

    Now let's get back to Russia. Is there an incentive in our situation to follow the ideas of the NSDAP? There is, and what kind. Economic instability, the arbitrariness of corrupt officials, a sharp division of society in terms of living standards. This is not to mention the extremely neglected upbringing and education. Here are the craftsmen who revive the theses condemned by Nuremberg and throw them to the masses. As a rule, not very mature and not accustomed to independent thinking. And they, these masses, draw swastikas in the porches and popularize Hitler. The most dangerous thing is that the young are most susceptible to romanticizing Nazism. Modern ideologues of Nazism filled a niche that was empty after the collapse of the Soviet systemic organizations engaged in education: the pioneers, the Komsomol. I am not going to frighten society with the "lost" generation, but I think that it is time for the state to take the process of patriotic education into its own hands, and not let it go by itself. Otherwise, we risk getting hundreds of thousands of nongovernmental organizations fed on overseas grants that are engaged in educating young people in the direction Uncle Sam needs. Including the Nazi-oriented ones.

    The gentlemen who believe that there is no Nazism in Russia should study history more carefully and compare it with life. In Germany, Nazism began not with the "beer coup" in Munich, as is commonly thought, but with the construction of autobahns. And God save us from such "prosperity" as the idea of ​​the revival of the nation, crystallized under the influence of "Mein Kampf". So, everything is correct, the law is needed. Another thing is that it is damp, kosobok and comes into conflict with the current legislative framework. In a word, we wanted the best, but it turned out, as always.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 28
      0
      Quote: Polarfox
      In Germany, Nazism began not with the "beer coup" in Munich, as is commonly thought, but with the construction of autobahns.

      Are you serious? I thought that National Socialism began with funding? Try to plant a seed in a bed and not water it! Will you take a big crop?
      Writers like you seriously say that babies are born from "kisses" (only) and they are found in cabbage.
  25. aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 27 2014 08: 52
    +1
    Auto RU

    When Soviet soldiers took Italian warriors prisoner at Stalingrad and called them "Nazis", the latter were very indignant and objected: "I am an honest fascist and do not confuse me with these Nazi pigs!"

    So - deal with terminology and call everything by their proper names.
  26. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 April 27 2014 08: 52
    +2
    The article of an obvious provocateur skillfully softens its degrading potential by introducing an element supposedly allowing punishment for insulting Russians - the author allegedly does not see that fascism, in the current conditions, is primarily support for the misanthropic aspirations of the Anglo-Saxon governments to create a "golden billion" and consider the entire remaining population to be slaves. There is no need to go into the casuistry of many liberals about the law, Yarovaya is not Svanidze and I will believe her, but not the adherents of this J.
  27. Counter
    Counter April 27 2014 08: 55
    +5
    An article from the category of the next vychers of local (or Ukrainian?) "Liberals". What does he not understand? When they shout “hit the chock, Russia is for the Russians!”, It is a criminal offense. When the crowd walks across MOSCOW and chants "Bandera will come, put things in order!" this is also a criminal offense. Arguing about the Bandera people, whom the author, as a true liberal, "has never seen anywhere," and about the results of the Nuremberg trials, which he apparently also heard only out of his ears, the author does not seem to even suspect that the decisions of this International Court of Justice are on a par with German Nazism, was classified as a crime against humanity. And now Bandera's portraits are being dragged like icons around Kiev and the West of Ukraine. We came up with our own theory about the "hero-Bandera", and decided that everything - no more problem! He was like, "he was in a concentration camp." And what happened after he was released from the concentration camp ?? This is the propaganda of Nazism!
  28. Dusk
    Dusk April 27 2014 09: 02
    +2
    And who performed in Manezhnaya Square in 2010?
  29. tanit
    tanit April 27 2014 09: 09
    0
    For some reason, only in Russia - if you are a fascist, then you can avoid punishment. Zaori - enough to feed the Caucasus, proori - Russia for the Russians ... - and there is no article on you. Now it is. No, I, maybe, a fascist, maybe I’m a nationalist in the Russian army, and I gave the oath to the USSR, well ... a scoop and a footcloth .... I somehow hate fascists. Unobtrusive. Zolotukhin-Bumbarash- How many times I see, so many times I will kill.
    1. sv68
      sv68 April 27 2014 12: 24
      0
      tanit fascists minus know the bastards that for them the bullet has already been cast, and the rampages are raging
      1. tanit
        tanit April 27 2014 17: 42
        0
        Rotten fascist evil spirits-let's drive a bullet in the forehead. Scum of mankind - put together a strong coffin. Good poems, how many years have passed, but relevant now.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 37
      +1
      Quote: tanit
      I hate fascists somehow. Unobtrusive. Zolotukhin-Bumbarash- How many times I see, so many times I will kill.

      But the husband of Raisa Maximovna and the husband of Naina Josephovna? G.Popov, Grandson of A.T. Gaidar, red evil with nanocoating? Are they spiritually close to you, like V.I.Novodvorskaya?
  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 27 2014 09: 19
    +3
    Every family has its black sheep. The law is needed so that there is no lynching. And then the angry people of the fascist elements can plant on stake.
  31. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 27 2014 09: 28
    +2
    Quote: tanit
    For some reason, only in Russia - if you are a fascist, then you can avoid punishment. Zaori - enough to feed the Caucasus, proori - Russia for the Russians ... - and there is no article on you. Now it is. No, I, maybe, a fascist, maybe I’m a nationalist in the Russian army, and I gave the oath to the USSR, well ... a scoop and a footcloth .... I somehow hate fascists. Unobtrusive. Zolotukhin-Bumbarash- How many times I see, so many times I will kill.

    Normally wrote! I agree .. Nazism is an infection (and if still in conjunction with the LHTB .. Zionism, etc.) Everything (what we are now seeing in Ukraine) ..
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 10: 53
      +2
      And after all, only in Russia, piddlers and zigging ones are in the same ranks. Scum ... But now it is possible to align their face, according to the law. And what, - did not ziggle, but under the 6-color "rainbow"? - in the mug. hi
      1. Sour
        Sour April 27 2014 15: 20
        0
        Quote: tanit
        But only in Russia, peeders and ziguyas are in the same ranks.

        You simply do not know what is outside of Russia.
        In the Netherlands, the leader of the right-wing radicals G. Wilders never hid his "blueness". The leader of the Austrian Natsiks J. Haider is also from this fraternity.
  32. Free wind
    Free wind April 27 2014 09: 32
    +3
    And when the crowd goes around Moscow, and yells: Allah akbar, or they cut rams on the street of Stalingrad, then this is a religious ceremony. And you can’t ban it, because there is a law on religion, by banning it you can go to jail. In general, the fascist is translated from Italian as: bunch, bunch, union. It seems so that it turns out that the emblem of the signalmen is, as it were, also a fascist symbol. but the definition of fascist ideology: anti-communism, Nazism, militarism, corporatism, leaderism. This was written in the history books of the USSR.
  33. Turk
    Turk April 27 2014 09: 51
    +1
    It is better to abide in this situation than not to abide. What would everyone be afraid of?
    1. Sandov
      Sandov April 27 2014 13: 06
      0
      wassat
      Quote: turk
      It is better to abide in this situation than not to abide. What would everyone be afraid of?
  34. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 27 2014 10: 05
    +2
    The law is absolutely necessary. We must be more precise with the terminology ... in my opinion, the Federal Law should be directed against Nazism and its manifestations. In the preamble, it is necessary to determine very precisely what we will punish for and what to warn about. Demonstration processes are not needed, but with law enforcement, especially at first, you need to be very careful.
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 10: 23
      +1
      Once again I’ll hint so-Kinchev-Panfilov Konstantin -patriot. Not a fascist. Not a Nazi. Patriot. And he is one of those that I am proud of.
  35. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 27 2014 10: 25
    0
    Quote: silberwolf88
    We must be more precise with terminology

    Exactly. Anything can be brought under our vague laws, and anything can be deduced from under their actions. Therefore, I say that the law is damp and crooked, it needs to be finalized, extremely specific. That is, so that no one doubts: this is propaganda of Nazism, and this is a study of history. To argue about Hitler is not a sin, but to justify his actions, and moreover, to extol them, is in my opinion already criminal. So it is necessary to distinguish between propaganda and controversy.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 41
      0
      Quote: Polarfox
      So it is necessary to distinguish between propaganda and controversy.

      Well, dear, after your infraction above, excuses are already superfluous.
  36. tanit
    tanit April 27 2014 10: 38
    +1
    What about terminology? Bandera dash is not a fascist, or what ?! In Ukraine they zigzag — they are fascists, zig in Saratov — they are patriots, so what? Any zigheil in any territory within the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation is now subject to jurisdiction. And that's right.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: tanit
      Any zigheil in any territory within the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation is now subject to jurisdiction. And that's right.

      Beitar is not a sigheil. Is Beitar not subject to jurisdiction? "Kill the best of the goyim (" Torah ")! Not subject to jurisdiction?
      Any zigheil in any territory NOT within the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation is henceforth NOT subject to jurisdiction. And is that right?
  37. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 27 2014 10: 49
    +4
    Quote: tanit
    What about terminology?

    Specifically and clearly, without ambiguous interpretation. What does insulting memorable days mean? To paint: if on the Victory Day some bastard shows disrespect for the feat of the army of the USSR, he writes something offensive somewhere - without trial, without trial. And let him answer according to the law. If an official of a war veteran huffs and drags on his case, despite his merits and benefits, he will be brought to trial for contempt of the memory of the war. If a spoiled undergrowth pulls on a T-shirt with a swastika - in court for trying to rehabilitate Nazism.

    Here on this youth must be educated.


    However, something went wrong, I apologize. I believe that the law is given in vague formulations, due to which it will be poorly applicable in practice. More precisely, it is necessary to designate the corpus delicti, more specifically. So that the judge could not interpret otherwise than this is written.
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 11: 23
      0
      The law is Dan. The law is. But to act within the framework of the Law is our conscience. And I don’t care who rides. Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Russian. I beat these faces. Now, and by law. I'm on the same emotions, I'm sorry. hi
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 27 2014 19: 56
      0
      Quote: Polarfox
      I believe that the law is given in vague formulations, due to which it will be poorly applicable in practice. More precisely, it is necessary to designate the corpus delicti, more specifically

      So, do you have the ignition later? Would say this buzzword in the branch a little higher, and there would be no objections! So answer yourself: do you need this new "58th" article? Here's to you personally, your family, your children?
  38. ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 April 27 2014 11: 05
    0
    "Well this is no longer a joke to you - to prohibit the propaganda of Nazism. Who dared? Who allowed? Nazis among us ?!"
    What the ...? I.e. do people here want Nazism to be promoted on TV or am I not understanding something?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 27 2014 11: 30
      +1
      Just take this law and study, without any speculation and fantasies of people who misunderstand it or understand it in their own way, due to lack of education or scum character.
    2. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 11: 33
      0
      Not certainly in that way. Or, it’s not at all like that. Fascists and Nazis are the realities of our time. Alas. But now, I will beat up separately, fascist faces (I will, wherever I go) - not hiding behind my shoulder straps. hi
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  40. siberalt
    siberalt April 27 2014 11: 44
    +7
    The law, of course, needs to be read. But where is the law on responsibility for denying the genocide of the Russian people? It turns out interestingly. The same Soloviev certainly during the transmission several times emphasize that he is a Jew. Think about what would happen to those broadcasters or TV presenters who would like to emphasize several times that they were Russian? So, the question of backfill laughing
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 27 2014 16: 37
      +2
      Quote: siberalt
      The same Soloviev

      I could tell you something interesting about the portrait of this character, I collide at work. But I'm afraid the forum users, whom I respect, will not understand me, like "paws away from a patriot!"
      I will say streamlined: -So what he says from the screen does not coincide with his personal opinion, and deeds too ....
  41. kelevra
    kelevra April 27 2014 12: 36
    +2
    In my village there were Russian fascists, until the group grew up to 100 people, there was no law on it, as the law came out, half did it and immediately ran back home under my mother’s skirt, and the rest, we grandchildren of veterans, physically hollowed out so that Now for all holidays associated with WWII come without an invitation!
  42. Russkiy_Prapor
    Russkiy_Prapor April 27 2014 14: 30
    +1
    Fascism (Italian fascismo from fascio “union, bundle, bundle, unification”) is a generalized name for extreme right-wing political movements, ideologies and the corresponding form of government of a dictatorial type, the characteristic features of which are nationalism (as a rule, in the broad sense), a personality cult , militarism, totalitarianism.
    The fascist states are characterized by the strengthening of the regulatory role of the state both in the economy and in ideology: corporatization of the state through the creation of a system of mass organizations and social associations, violent methods of suppressing dissent, rejection of the principles of economic and political liberalism.
    In addition, there is a tendency for the psychological and psychophysiological interpretation of the concept of "fascism", which substantiates the understanding of fascism as a pathological deviation in the mass and / or individual consciousness. The Austrian psychologist Wilhelm Reich, who was forced to leave Europe during the Nazi years, determined that "there is German, Italian, Spanish, Anglo-Saxon, Jewish and Arab fascism."
    Now think yourself against whom and against what the law is.
  43. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 27 2014 14: 58
    +2
    Interestingly, when Caucasians will call for slaughtering "Russian pigs", will it be interpreted as fascism or as a peculiarity of national flavor? In general, I will say so. Without Nazis, without ideology, all this is garbage, like a ban on smoking at bus stops.
  44. prishelec
    prishelec April 27 2014 15: 01
    0
    Very correct, and timely law!
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  46. w2000
    w2000 April 27 2014 17: 24
    0
    There are Russian Nazis, and there are a lot of them. It is they who wave the black and yellow-white imperial rags, that they go to the square in masks, that they call for violence against everyone who, in their opinion, is non-Russian, that they form the basis of the ultras football fan movements. It was their organizations that sent their activists to Euromaidan, it is in their young and stupid heads that the ideas of Slavic neopaganism, Russian domination, the German Reich and Bandera Russophobia coexist, they destroy and undermine the foundations of our multinational state, receiving grants from Western funds.

    Here is a screenshot from the right-wing community with thanks to the Russian Nazi organizations that supported the Euromaidan and sent their militants there.
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    2. shezar
      shezar April 28 2014 00: 03
      +1
      Firstly, you called the Russian national flag a rag, then you are a chauvinist, secondly, you are spreading Bandera propaganda and misinformation ... Most of the organizations in this picture have not existed for a long time, and of those that exist the main organizations of Bandera do not support, but stand for South The East and Russians in Ukraine, for example, the NDP and RNE, which are shown in this Goebels style picture, disgusted to watch as a person with Soviet symbols on the avatar sinks to Goebels propaganda, you either have no conscience or no brains ..
  47. bubla5
    bubla5 April 27 2014 17: 35
    +1
    I don’t see anything wrong if, for example, Russians require special living conditions, some kind of benefits at the place of residence, in the education of their children, but for some reason they are called nationalists, all peoples have protection, there are diasporas, etc. and one nation has nothing, maybe it’s time to raise the population of its country, take care of it, give it cheap energy and improve living conditions, and while our rulers care more about the people of Africa and Asia, they think more about Ukrainians than about their population
  48. kaa1977
    kaa1977 April 27 2014 17: 38
    +1
    Banning Nazis on paper is one thing. And can I "soak in the toilet"? No. Homosexuals were banned, again on paper.

    It is necessary to eradicate. it’s necessary not to show any kind of porn on TV, not stupid cartoons for our children, but films with notes of propaganda, ours, and not American, would moreover prohibit feeds with any insult to Russians.

    But no, money is more important, for our businessmen, the owners of television companies, only fill their belly. Where did censorship go? AND?

    So, our legislators, as they were doing nothing, so they are doing nothing. to ban is easier than to fight and work in this direction.
    1. tanit
      tanit April 27 2014 17: 53
      -2
      Yes you can, you could, there would be a desire. If there is motivation, the absence or presence of the Law will not stop. hi
  49. tanit
    tanit April 27 2014 17: 58
    0
    I will quote from Konstantin Kinchev-Panfilov: "You ask, what kind of pose ?! You, my friend, are a maximalist? I will answer you that you, my Fuhrer, I am simply an anti-fascist."
  50. konvalval
    konvalval April 27 2014 18: 08
    0
    As long as I do politics, I have never met a single Nazi or Bandera.

    So very little involved in politics. And it is not known how to do it. But when you meet it may happen that it will be too late.