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Uprising against “Anti-Russia”

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Uprising against “Anti-Russia”Russian New Russia is very different from Russian Russian, but they realized that they do not want to be Ukrainians and will not be them


Now in the South-East of Ukraine is happening that six months ago it was considered impossible.

Even when Euromaidan was in full swing, no one could even imagine that the South-East would rise, regardless of the results of the opposition between the authorities and the opposition. Almost all observers noted the extreme passivity of the South-East, its inability to form a common ideology in opposition to the passionate and ideologically cohesive West.

Residents of the region themselves justified this by saying that “as long as the West is Maydanit, Donbass is working”. My colleague, Kiev political analyst Alexei Bluminov noted then that in this case, the Donbas would have to live according to the laws that for themselves and for him “vymaydanit” zapadentsy.

Indeed, the passivity of the south-eastern Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, uncomplaining readiness to assimilate into a common “Ukrainian project”, despite a certain defeat in the rights, including the right to use its own language and its own interpretation stories, - long been a talk of the town. This applies not only to Ukraine, but also to the Baltic states, Kazakhstan, and the republics of Central Asia, where, however, the percentage of the Russian-speaking population has declined significantly over the years of post-Soviet existence.

It seemed that the Russian-speaking residents of these countries are not ready and will never be ready to defend their rights for two reasons.

First and foremost: Russia immediately made it clear that she was not going to help her compatriots who had been in a foreign land either diplomatically or financially - not at all.

Secondly, Russia did not go anywhere, and it was always possible to go there, at least theoretically. For financial reasons, however, not everyone succeeded, and the social conditions in Russia were often no better. However, where real terror was unleashed against the Russians, people had no choice but to flee to Russia, leaving all their property.

If we look at the map, we will see that the least Russian-speaking remained exactly where they were forced to flee from ethnic cleansing and civil wars. On the contrary, the softer the pressure was - the more they remained.

In order to drastically change the way of life, quit everything, quit the land on which ancestors lived, and move to an unknown and not very hospitable Russia without any prospects, a very harsh excuse was needed, such as the threat of loss of life. Where there was no such threat, the Russian-speaking people preferred to remain and integrate into the new reality. If it was necessary, they were ready to assimilate, learn to speak a foreign language. Until then, there was no danger of turning ideological pressure into natural violence.

So, of all the former republics in Ukraine, all these 23 years existed, the mildest form of pressure existed. By the way, not only Ukrainian nationalists, but also our Russian liberals constantly spoke about this: they say, what do you dislike? You do not cut, as in Tajikistan, and do not make second-class citizens, as in Latvia! This is indeed the case, and it was this that was all these 23 of the year, a pledge of submission to the Southeast. And then, it is easier to assimilate with Ukraine than with Tajikistan: the language is similar, the culture is one, mentality, history ...

In addition, brainwashing played its role. Throughout its history, Ukraine created an alternative to the usual Soviet, continued in Russia, historical mythology, convincing its citizens that they are carriers of European values, and the “brothers” in the East are not brothers at all, but an evil Asian empire that oppressed the unfortunate Ukraine Not even Ukraine - Russia!

Not having its own history, different from the all-Russian, Ukrainian ideologues proclaimed Ukraine the heir of Kievan Rus, opposing the so-called "horde" - Muscovy, accusing the latter of almost stealing historical continuity. And that was the fatal mistake, the consequences of which we are seeing today.

After 1991, all the republics that separated from Russia (or rather, their national elites, which set the development vector) faced one problem - self-identification, the creation of a national idea. After all, far from all of them could boast of a rich pre-Russian history, and the independence that had suddenly collapsed (not won) had to be ideologically justified.

Almost all the republics began to look for some historical continuity with the pre-imperial period. It came out with varying degrees of success - depending on the degree of historical community with Russia. Ukraine was the least fortunate: its history (if you do not take the pseudo-historical nonsense about “ancient ukrov”) coincided with the Russian one from the very beginning. Well, what can you do: one country, one story. But after all, future generations of a new independent power needed to somehow be explained why then Ukraine is not Russia.

I didn't have to go far for this. It is logical that in all post-Soviet republics nationalism became the dominant ideology — the only defense of fragile and historically absurd sovereignty from the ideological expansion of the “empire”.

Ukrainian nationalism had one interesting feature. It was not an ideology FOR - for their country, for their history, for their people. It was an ideology AGAINST - against Russia! Well, how could it be otherwise, when the country is one, the people are one, the story is one? ..

It is characteristic that Ukrainian nationalism, like the very concept of “Ukrainians,” was created artificially, at the request of third-party players.

“The fate of Galicia is a tragedy that has no historical analogues. Something similar is described only in fantasy waste paper - elves who fell into the hands of the Black Lord and after many years of torment turned them into orcs, ”journalist and writer Armen Asriyan writes about this problem.

Galicia, cut off from the Russian world as far back as the XIII century, was irretrievably lost for it, and was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austria-Hungary, and White Poland Poland, which were constantly hostile to Russia, was first transformed into “Non-Russia”, and later - and into "Anti-Russian."

The goal is clear: to create an alternative center of gravity in the East, proclaiming the history of Russia-Russia as its history, while at the same time unconditionally oriented to the West.

Whether the ideologists of the “Ukrainians” understood that this task was impossible in principle as long as there was a big Russia, or whether they were pursuing other goals that were closer to reality — it doesn't matter anymore. It is important that the project grew, developed and was eager to absorb as much of the territorial and human resources as possible, including the completely alien to them in terms of mentality - the native Russian. At the same time, he rapidly became radicalized, which reached its apogee at the time of the Petliurism and Bandera, when Ukrainian nationalists showed the whole world the most natural fascist grin to the delight of their German masters.

And this ideology was in demand after 1991 year. There was simply no other. It was necessary to explain to everyone why, in fact, Ukraine is not Russia. It is clear that on denial and opposition you will not go far, even if this business is not accompanied by ethnic cleansing and pogroms.

However, the opposition could have had a completely different effect if the ideologists of the Ukrainian statehood tried to create an "alternative Russia". This could be a project that is equally attractive both for residents of Ukraine and for residents of Russia.

All that was needed was to make Russian the second state language and defeat all the vices that all years of democracy and capitalism tear Russia apart, forcing its own citizens to abandon their homeland: completely remove oligarchs from power, defeat corruption, overcome catastrophic social stratification, establish genuine political freedom and autonomy for the regions.

Who knows, perhaps this “alternative Russia” could become the center of gravity of the Russian world, and many Russians, tired of the lawlessness created in Russia itself, would be pulled there.

But no. Ukraine did not want to be Russia. She wanted to be a suburb, constantly under threat of expansion from a large "empire" stub, which is so convenient to justify all its economic and political failures with the machinations of a neighbor. But there were no failures: after all, Ukraine immediately followed the path of Russia - the path of savage barbaric oligarchic capitalism. Only Russia has oil and gas as an airbag, so that it could allow itself various experiments, and Ukraine did not have them.

Against this background, throughout Ukraine, including the completely distant ideologically and mentally from Galicia of Novorossia, an aggressive expansion of the “Ukrainians” - the ideology of Zapaden villages and villages, dreaming, as their ancestors, to rot in Europe, begins, just to be away from Russia , the ideology of "Anti-Russia".

Incidentally, this was manifested after 23 of the year, when a small but passionate West rebelled against the abolition of the association decision with the EU, which led to a change of power, while much more numerous, but not used to fight for their rights, and vaguely aware of what is happening, the industrial East simply watched. But, in the end, they realized what it threatened, and began to resist. As a result, the whole world, and especially Kiev, with bated breath, is watching the “Russian Spring”, not understanding how such a thing can be.

So what do we have? And we have the fact that the Ukrainization 23 of the year did not involve a significant part of the population of Ukraine in the process of ethnogenesis. And too short is the time for such a process. On the contrary, they pushed a huge number of people outside their project, thereby setting up a time bomb under their statehood. In peacetime, everything was outwardly calm. But the very first serious shock showed that it was not.

And it’s not for nothing that Nazarbayev and the authorities of the Baltic republics are so worried. They also have significant territories inhabited by Russian-speaking people, which all 23 of the year also did not show any signs that they could rebel against forced assimilation by the titular nation, which, as events in Ukraine showed, for 23 of the year was not only not completed, but practically not moved from place.

Moreover, today we are witnessing a reverse process in the South-East of Ukraine - the birth of a new national project. Yes, this project is not yet very viable, especially since it was again directed rather AGAINST than FOR. Yes, the Russians of New Russia are already very different from the Russians of Russia: in some sense they are even more likely Soviet than Russian. Yes, they still do not really understand whether they want to live in Russia, which has changed beyond recognition in 23, or to build their own state, as in Transnistria, which has long formed a unique political nation.

But they already realized that they do not want to be Ukrainians and will not be them. Ukrainians in the Galician-Bandera sense. But today there is no other meaning, and there cannot be any, because the project “Antirossiya” strangled the project “Alternative Russia” in the bud. Today, being Ukrainian means being in favor of the West against Russia. In another way - no, sorry. Let's look at reality without rose-colored glasses. They don’t have time for a leisurely peaceful national building, so the question will be very tough: if you are for Russia, get out there! And the danger of turning ideological pressure into natural violence is more relevant today than ever. But it is precisely this that mobilizes people who have before their eyes everything that happened on the ruins of the Soviet Union in the first and in the following years. They do not really believe in Russia.

And I am often asked why I support the movement for self-determination of Novorossia, which can lead to the collapse of the Ukrainian statehood. Therefore, I support that I understand: we have lost Ukraine. Sooner or later it had to happen. She made her choice, and not even now, but fifteen hundred years ago. It is necessary to save from absorption by “Anti-Russia” what else can be saved. The collapse of the USSR was only the first act of the drama. The processes started then cannot be stopped at once, but it can be slowed down. Moreover, apparently, the Russian leadership began to understand this ...
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  1. Sakmagon
    Sakmagon April 26 2014 09: 12
    +8
    We have lost Ukraine ...

    Don't say "gop!" Not yet evening...
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 26 2014 09: 26
      +7
      Quote: Sacmagon
      Not yet evening...

      Why is she so needed? No Ukraine - no problem.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 26 2014 10: 29
        +6
        Quote: svetlomor
        Why is she so needed? No Ukraine - no problem.

        But you have obvious problems with understanding the geopolitical significance of Ukraine for Russia.

        It is amazing where people come from who do not see beyond their nose ...
        1. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer April 26 2014 11: 19
          -1
          Quote: Corsair
          But you have obvious problems with understanding the geopolitical significance of Ukraine for Russia.

          The significance of Ukraine for Russia is to be anti-Russia and to spoil Russia to please the West.
          No Ukraine - no problem.
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 April 26 2014 15: 37
          +5
          Quote: Corsair
          But you have obvious problems with understanding the geopolitical significance of Ukraine for Russia.

          Do you obviously have your own version? Change the consciousness of the Center and the West of Ukraine at once? To bring the brains of a significant part of the inhabitants of the South-East under the standard - who are not at all eager to assimilate with Russia ?! The article speaks fairly honestly about the real state of affairs, "hurray-patriotism" cannot solve the problem, but preserving Ukraine in the form that is beneficial to Russia, from the point of view of geopolitics, is now possible only with the help of a military invasion - which is unacceptable from the point of view of international relationship ..
        3. wax
          wax April 26 2014 16: 34
          +1
          It seems to me that here they confuse Ukraine, as a state that really exists so far, and Ukraine, as its population on the territory of this state. It is difficult to imagine the further peaceful coexistence of Westerners and the southeastern unitary Ukraine: after all, the authorities are playing the nationalist card - the West, with arms in hand, has come to the southeast to pacify the rebellious. So far, Russia is trying to support the idea of ​​federalization, but it seems to me, like the author of the article, that the train has left - it’s impossible to do even federalization by blood. Most likely, it will be historically justified if the population of the southeast creates a new state. Ukraine will cringe to its historical borders. But Galicia itself will determine its fate. The southeastern state and Ukraine itself will remain in the orbit of Russia's influence, Galicia will return to the state from which it was pulled out by force.
      2. 120352
        120352 April 26 2014 11: 04
        +29
        Lord! Remember the story. Ukraine is the southeastern part of Russia, located at its edge, and therefore named. This is a purely geographical concept, which later became administrative. For a long time, all sorts of neighbors from the West claimed this part of Russia. But this land historically remained ours and not Ukrainians, but Russian people, Little Russians lived there. Look at the documents written by Bogdan Khmelnitsky or written down from his words. Everywhere there we are talking about the reunification of NOT UKRAINE with RUSSIA, but about the REUNION of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE.
        Western predators began to invent Ukraine in its modern form as early as the 13th century, but representatives of the Russian "intelligentsia", who carried out "going to the people" in the 19th century, were especially successful in this. The creator of the Cyril and Methodius Society, professor of Kiev University N.I. Kostomarov, teacher V.M. Belozersky, official N.I. Gulak, writer P.A. Kulish. The society existed in 1846-47. and set the goal of "national" liberation of Ukraine. Although what nation could we talk about, if the same Russians have always lived in Ukraine, as in other parts of Russia?
        The trace of this society, in appearance, is insignificant, but it was Panteleimon Kulik, a member of this society, who came up with the coding of the Little Russian (South Russian) dialect, Mova. Mova itself was collected in the villages, creating it from vernacular, including obscene language. The bulk of the population of Little Russia spoke, as now, in Russian. The purpose of the creation of the Mova is to create visible differences between Russia and Little Russia, which inevitably should lead to the separation of a single people. Language from Mova has not grown. On a mov it is impossible to draw up either the participle, or the participle turnover, or a complex sentence. And these are signs of language.
        According to the 1908 census, only 2% of the population of Little Russia considered themselves Ukrainians (the result of efforts to divide the people), the rest signed up as Russian Little Russians. They still live there and there are no other people there. There was no migration of peoples, so that ethnic replacement of Russians for some other people could take place. The "Ukrainians" existing now are deceived Russians, invented as an anti-Russian project.
        All artificial systems are short-lived. Hope this one too.
        1. alexdol
          alexdol April 26 2014 11: 32
          +11
          120352 (6) RU "All artificial systems are short-lived. I hope this one too."
          ----------------------------------
          Everything is correct, you say, and there have already been a lot of materials about this on the same site. Indeed, this "artificial" formation "Ukraine" simply has no right to exist! Therefore, I am SURPRISED when CORSAR says:
          "But you have obvious problems with understanding the geopolitical significance of Ukraine for Russia."
          This is the same as saying about the geopolitical significance of Russia for Russia !!!
          1. 120352
            120352 April 26 2014 12: 26
            +3
            alexdol (1)
            I completely agree with you. On this subject, in pieces, I write here regularly, since the whole problem cannot be immediately stated.
            And your last phrase: "About the GEOPOLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF RUSSIA FOR RUSSIA" is completely in tune with my thoughts. I think CORSAR just misunderstood or misunderstood something. Or maybe he was wrong.
        2. koshh
          koshh April 26 2014 13: 40
          +3
          Quote: 120352
          , but it was Panteleimon Kulik, a member of this society, who came up with the coding of the Little Russian (South Russian) dialect, Mova.

          Big +. By the way, Kulich, before his death, rejected the language and admitted it to be his big mistake, that it was a "stillborn language."
        3. Blondy
          Blondy April 26 2014 15: 35
          +1
          The southeastern part of Russia was called Little Russia all its life. To the Bolsheviks, because of the "Little" component, this old-regime name seemed derogatory, and instead the Polish name Ukraine was used, which meant the outskirts of Poland. It can also be seen as a derogatory meaning, but since the Bolsheviks were not very Bolsheviks in the Polish mentality, this name was adopted for the newly formed Soviet republic after the annexation of the well-known Russian regions occupying the eastern part of present-day Ukraine.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 April 26 2014 09: 32
      +8
      First and foremost: Russia immediately made it clear that she was not going to help her compatriots who had been in a foreign land either diplomatically or financially - not at all.

      Some kind of nonsense. At 100% I am sure that Russia has not yet said its last word. And such thoughts that the Russian Ukraine and Russian Russia are different, this is generally from the speech of Napoleon from the 6 chamber.
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 April 26 2014 11: 08
        +3
        Quote: ele1285
        Some kind of nonsense. At 100% I am sure that Russia has not yet said its last word. And such thoughts that the Russian Ukraine and Russian Russia are different, this is generally from the speech of Napoleon from the 6 chamber.

        YES, THE RUSSIAN UKRAINIANS ARE JUST BECOMING OTHER MORE OPEN, THIS IS NOT RUNNING THIS IS THE BIRTH OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO ENTER INTO RUSSIA ANOTHER QUESTION, AND HERE IN THE CU EXACTLY, YOU DON'T WAIT. "SLAVYANSK" "WHAT IS IT SO DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING IS THROWN AGAINST IT, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE ALL THE AUTHORITIES GOT THE APPROVAL OF THE RESIDENTS, SHOW AT LEAST ONE THIS IS IN RUSSIA, WHETHER THERE IS NOT ANYWHERE, THERE IS ANYWHERE IN PROTECTING THEIR RIGHTS, EVERYONE IS AFRAID OF THE GROWTH OF SUCH A PUBLIC RULE SYSTEM, ONLY THIS ONE GOT EVERYONE, THIS IS THE WHOLE ARMY GOING AGAINST THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THIS IS LIKE TO , I CONSTANTLY HAVE ONE SIMPLE THOUGHT ANY OFFICER WILL SAY THIS CANNOT BE BUT IT TURNS OUT I WISH ALL RESIDENTS AND DEFENDERS OF THIS UNIQUE CITY YOU STAND AND BEAT, VERY wants to they persevered in spite of that power and system of states which doomed town in isolation, I am grateful to the media that they themselves without wanting to seem far different life and even gave FEEL HOW DOES IT ALL completely FORGOTTEN democracy, ask yourself THE QUESTION HOW THEY WILL FEEL IN RUSSIA, WE HAVE A LOT OF STRUCTURES AS WELL BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS WORKING OTHERWISE, THEY RESIDENTS OF THE "SLAVYANSKA" Despite the circumstances, everyone who there stood up to defend the people and the people sincere wishes for success in the noble cause of the organization of my life, and I for the first time saw that it is "real"
        1. DADA Kokelsgogel
          DADA Kokelsgogel April 26 2014 11: 26
          +1
          There is something in this, probably a long-forgotten feeling of freedom, the euphoria of involvement in history, to the fact that YOU are the creator of your fate and you choose how you live. Thanks for the thought. m yeah
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 April 26 2014 14: 12
            +3
            Quote: PAPA Cockelsgogel
            There is something in this, probably a long-forgotten feeling of freedom, the euphoria of involvement in history, to the fact that YOU are the creator of your fate and you choose how you live.

            Do not confuse the feeling of freedom with will. Completely different concepts. Who prevents you from arranging your life the way you want? Gaytsy to whom we bribe? Doctors who are accustomed to being "thanked". Teachers to whom we rent money twice a year for painting and curtains of one office? Or bureaucrats in front of whom everyone is "in awe," tired, drove themselves into a corner and whine. Do not violate the traffic rules, control where the money that has been handed over to school goes, complain about the doctors to the department. Do not break the law and he will treat you the same way.
        2. lelikas
          lelikas April 26 2014 12: 33
          +4
          Igor, in the lower left corner of the keyboard, there is a Caps Lock button - it helps to disable large letters on the screen.
          Thank you for using this tip.
        3. koshh
          koshh April 26 2014 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: igor.borov775
          THAT THEY WITHOUT REALLY SHOWING ANOTHER LIFE TO EVERYTHING AND EVEN GIVEN TO FEEL HOW IT WORKS IT IS ALL TOTAL FORGOTTEN FORGOTTEN PEOPLE
          Igor, unfortunately, this is good for one town somewhere in space, or in a primitive communal system. Unfortunately, we live in a huge world where everything, absolutely everything is interconnected. The US also started with democracy and who are they now with their fucking democracy? World Cerberus - is it a sign of democracy? And in Slavyansk, most likely, "Soviet" people still live. For my part, I wish them GOOD LUCK and VICTORY.
        4. koshh
          koshh April 26 2014 14: 01
          +2
          Igor! I would also like to add that the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC, as you obviously understand it, is purely MAKHNOVSHINA.
        5. ele1285
          ele1285 April 26 2014 14: 04
          +4
          Quote: igor.borov775
          ANOTHER QUESTION THEY WILL LIKE TO ENTER RUSSIA
          RESIDENTS, ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROTECTION OF THEIR RIGHTS, EVERYONE TOUCH THESE ATTENTION AT THEIR GROWTH THERE IN THE SYSTEM OF PEOPLE

          Well, you turned it down, they don’t want to go to Russia, so no one is captive, just don’t hold a rally for everyone, you’re our Trotsky Lyovushka. I understand emotions that are breaking over the edge. But therefore we are not animals that we can control them.
          But as for the residents who are actively involved in protecting their rights, they take doubts about me, they do not protect the rights, they want to live differently. Bandera and Mazepa have no heroes and normal men defend their rights in their fists or in court.
          Something dear to you was taken to the wrong steppe. Rights, ochlocracy and jumping on the Maidan do not need a big mind, and the PEOPLE should be led not by people shouted out by the crowd, but by an adequate one, who understands what a state is and values ​​its people.
          I'm sorry, hooked.
      2. Tor hummer
        Tor hummer April 26 2014 11: 20
        -3
        Quote: ele1285
        Some kind of nonsense. At 100% I am sure that Russia has not yet said its last word. And such thoughts that the Russian Ukraine and Russian Russia are different, this is generally from the speech of Napoleon from the 6 chamber.

        Russians in Russia. In Ukraine, predominantly "Soviet" and the difference between Russians and Soviet is huge.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 April 26 2014 14: 33
          +3
          Quote: Tor Hummer
          Russians in Russia. In Ukraine, predominantly "Soviet" and the difference between Russians and Soviet is huge.

          Well, if you talk like that, then it’s understandable why banderlogs appeared. They are not Soviet, not German, they worked in the SS only at construction sites and nannies, in Kazakhstan there are Kazakh Russians, in the Baltic, Baltic Russians, in America they are capitalist Russians, and in the rich they are rich Russian, what kind of nonsense. Blood is not voditsa, you can’t dilute it.
        2. Blondy
          Blondy April 26 2014 16: 07
          0
          That is precisely what the Soviet, and, in my opinion, they do not particularly understand each other, are they Russian or Ukrainians, except perhaps drunk. And they defend themselves from Western Nazis, regardless of their nationality.
          1. Tor hummer
            Tor hummer April 26 2014 16: 48
            0
            Quote: Blondy
            That is precisely what the Soviet, and, in my opinion, they do not particularly understand each other, are they Russian or Ukrainians, except perhaps drunk. And they defend themselves from Western Nazis, regardless of their nationality.

            Russians stand on the barricades and seize administrative buildings and do it for the sake of the right to identify themselves as Russians in the future, and not to be "Ukrainianized." And not for the sake of fighting some kind of mythical "national fofizm".
            And the Soviets continue to dutifully go to work in the mine.
      3. CALL.
        CALL. April 26 2014 11: 37
        +10
        that they are the bearers of European values, and the “brothers” in the East are not brothers at all, but a vicious Asian empire that has oppressed unhappy Ukraine all its life.

        1. ele1285
          ele1285 April 26 2014 14: 15
          +4
          [quote = Z.O.V.]
          Anatoly, we must continue
          You better starve
          What eat horrible
          And better be alone
          What horrible with anyone.
      4. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 26 2014 15: 08
        +5
        Quote: ele1285
        And these are the thoughts that the Russians of Ukraine and the Russians of Russia are different, this is generally from the speech of Napoleon from the 6 Chamber.

        I support: Why are the Chinese all over the world, wherever they live, are they still Chinese, remembering and loving their "historical homeland"? Why is this referred to Armenians, Jews, but not Russians? Why does the author believe that Russians are ready to "assimilate" anywhere and with anyone? The author believes that Russians do not have a sense of national dignity, self-awareness; they are easily ready to part with them and are not ready to defend them. The people! Is THIS TRUE? And the author "discovered" a new nationality - Pridnestrovians. Is it like in Bosnia? Were Serbs-declared themselves by nationality !!! ??? Muslims. And here: were Russians, Ukrainians, became Pridnestrovians by nationality?
        1. Blondy
          Blondy April 26 2014 16: 50
          0
          Well, with the Transnistrians almost according to Marx, being determines the nationality. Obviously, for them their commonality as Transnistrians is much more important than the difference between Ukrainians and Russians.
          About the sense of dignity and national self-awareness. Do not forget about the communities of Old Believers and White emigration, from Harbin to Paris. They were forced to leave their homeland, which they did not want to part with, and they held on, and they still hold on, do not forget their roots. Then volunteers came - all sorts of post-war traitors, renegades, scared ostarbeiters with complexes. Well, the latter are cosmopolitans, who "the fish seeks where deeper, and where the man is better." So they are assimilated.
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 April 26 2014 17: 28
          0
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Why does this apply to Armenians, Jews, but not to Russians? Why does the author believe that Russians are ready to assimilate

          Because the author is not adequate, the pluses were put to him by those who did not read the article
        3. mark7
          mark7 April 26 2014 18: 44
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I

          I support: Why are the Chinese all over the world, wherever they live, are they still Chinese, remembering and loving their "historical homeland"? Why is this referred to Armenians, Jews, but not Russians? Why does the author believe that Russians are ready to "assimilate" anywhere and with anyone? The author believes that Russians do not have a sense of national dignity, self-awareness; they are easily ready to part with them and are not ready to defend them. The people! Is THIS TRUE? And the author "discovered" a new nationality - Pridnestrovians. Is it like in Bosnia? Were Serbs-declared themselves by nationality !!! ??? Muslims. And here: were Russians, Ukrainians, became Pridnestrovians by nationality?

          Because now in Russia it is customary to call Russian all those who live in Russia, even if he is an Armenian Tatar or Georgians, etc., they artificially mixed everyone and everything, if only they would call them a Slav, everything is even offensive from here
    3. Validator
      Validator April 26 2014 09: 41
      +14
      But somehow this picture warms my soul
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat April 26 2014 10: 01
      +8
      ... Something similar is described only in fantasy waste paper - elves who fell into their hands Black lord and after many years of torment he turned into orcs ...


      Now I understand everything !!!! belay


      laughing laughing laughing
    5. mongoose
      mongoose April 26 2014 10: 43
      -2
      ukroinu exactly and did not "acquire" not acquired you will not lose
    6. Very old
      Very old April 26 2014 11: 36
      +1
      I will answer both Vadim-Sakmagon and Roman-svetlomor

      Never lose!

      Ukraine will not be "like this"
  2. Horde
    Horde April 26 2014 09: 13
    +11
    Jews at the hands of the Slavs want to DESTROY the SLAVS in order to clear their lands for the creation of a NEW ISRAEL, for this the so-called UKRAINE was created.
    - UKRAINE is MIRAGE, a hallucination in the imagination of Russophobes
    - UKRAINE is a BIG LIE,
    -Ukraine is a shame
    - UKRAINE is a fratricidal WAR AND BLOOD
    this project called UKRAINE is time to END.
    1. serge siberian
      serge siberian April 26 2014 09: 35
      +1
      Quote: Horde
      Jews at the hands of the Slavs want to DESTROY the SLAVS in order to clear their lands for the creation of a NEW ISRAEL, for this the so-called UKRAINE was created.

      I beg your pardon. But there is no need for Jews, there are many suffering, that "sand".
      These are "Jewish-Masons" so they want to divide the world. Well, and then correct. The historical phrase: divide and rule; it has been working for thousands of years.
      I am struck by the pomp and censorship with which the author writes an article. belittling Ukrainians. but he also talks about the history of Ukraine and Russia, they are closely and closely connected, the author emphasizes constantly. Why ???
      1. Horde
        Horde April 26 2014 09: 51
        +1
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        I beg your pardon. But there is no need for Jews, there are many suffering, that "sand".
        these are "Jewish-masons" so they want to divide the world


        you know, I would write more precisely, but the RULES of this forum prohibit concretizing life realities under the guise of insulting certain social groups ...
        1. sleepy
          sleepy April 26 2014 19: 27
          0
          Quote: Horde
          "You know, I would write MORE EXACTLY, but the RULES of this forum prohibit to concretize the realities of life under the guise of INSURANCE
          certain social groups ...
          ... The people of the Slavs are ruled by absolutely ALIEN, ALIEN, ENEMY personalities, and as a result, lies, blood, war; Slavs kill Slavs ... ".


          And these alien strangers are not Jews, although among Jews there are more of them for a number of reasons. Blaming everything on the Jews is like hiding the true culprits.
          Write - "strangers", "Illuminati", "cosmopolitans", "reptilians", "annuanaki", "gray" ... http://energodar.net/ha-tha.php?str=black/gray/gray
          Now they are not only writing about them, but also showing them on television because they themselves have understood that the truth cannot be concealed with the development of information technologies.
          Although it is necessary to treat the television version with caution, so they themselves lay it out with the use of their deep knowledge and you need to be careful when watching such films and take care of yourself and your condition.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-oWWpEziR8
          1. Horde
            Horde April 26 2014 22: 27
            0
            Quote: sleepy
            And these alien strangers are not Jews, although among Jews there are more of them for a number of reasons. Blaming everything on the Jews is like hiding the true culprits.
            Write - "aliens", "Illuminati", "cosmopolitans", "reptilians", "annuanaki"


            exactly, ANNUAKI is they, you just opened my eyes. Well NAKI! - our distant ancestors shouted in an attack on reptilians, they exterminated almost everyone, but a few pieces remain, now they harm us in Ukraine, as they can, now they are called KOZINAKI, as well as KOZYA NAKI, a rare bastard, life starts on the ends .
            1. sleepy
              sleepy April 27 2014 06: 52
              0
              Quote: Horde
              "... our distant ancestors shouted as they attacked the reptilians,
              almost all were exterminated, but ... ".


              It's hard to say what our distant ancestors shouted when attacking - "Hurray!"
              or "We are a host!" or "Po-lundra!" or something else ...
              It is even more difficult to understand what our distant ancestors wrote and did.
              And this is not because we are ignorant. No! We just don’t know much
              but you can’t understand what you don’t know yet!
              First you need to study what you want to understand, and only then you can understand what you have learned. There is simply no other way to gain understanding.
              True, you can believe something or someone without knowledge and understanding of what you believe. All religions are based on such blind faith.
              http://www.kramola.info/vesti/neobyknovennoe/midgard-zemlja-nachalo
              Let there be no Anuanaki, but Light and Dark.
              Light and Dark Forces have completely different principles on which they build their life and everything that is associated with it. Therefore light
              it will never be possible to defeat the Dark ones if they try to act by their own methods, or, as it is now fashionable to say: "to play by their rules."
              1. sleepy
                sleepy April 27 2014 06: 58
                0
                Quote: Horde
                "... now they harm us in Ukraine, as they can,
                now they are called KOZINAKI ... "


                From the side it turns out that the higher up the power vertical,
                the more moronic people are. But this is not so. The higher the power vertical,
                the concentration of creatures increases exponentially
                and everything is immediately put into place. This is genocide on planet Earth, carried out by humanoid creatures, genocide is multifaceted, multifaceted, multifaceted, deployed, global, and correctly covered by pseudoscientific phraseology, cunning and insidious that there is no doubt
                that this is the activity of human beings an order of magnitude higher than the average intelligence on this Earth, and maybe 10 orders of magnitude.
                They allow information in the open under the guise of "fantasy".
                Because the easiest way is to hide a big and terrible secret, disguising it as something frivolous, like a fairy tale about the past - a "myth" or, they say, a fairy tale about the future - "fantasy".

                They started from Ukraine, who is next?
                "Why in Ukraine all newborns are given on the first day: vikasol, erythromic ointment in the eyes, and hepatitis B vaccination.
                Because that's what they do in the US. "
                http://as209.livejournal.com/19528.html

                “In Ukraine, within the framework of the Cooperative Threat Reduction program, the first American level 3 biological laboratory has already been opened.
                Senator Richard Lugar and US President Barack Obama made a hand to its creation. The laboratory, located in Odessa, will specialize in the study (with not entirely clear final goals) of the most dangerous pathogenic substances on the planet. American politicians have been actively involved in its creation since 2005 - the time the “orange” team came to power. America successfully transforms Ukraine
                to the testing ground for unverified vaccines, drugs and therapeutic methods.
                The country is becoming a technological workshop for the production of antidotes by trial and error, a warehouse of viruses and pathogenic substances destructive to all living things, as well as just a dump for the waste of Western pharmaceutical and biotechnological corporations. "
                http://vlasti.net/news/96146
      2. Horde
        Horde April 26 2014 09: 57
        +9
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        I beg your pardon. But there is no need for Jews, there are many suffering, that "sand".
        These are "Jewish-Masons" so they want to divide the world. Well, and then correct. The historical phrase: divide and rule; it has been working for thousands of years.


        but you understand that in power all these Turchinovs, yatstsenyuki, tyagniboki, nicknames, timishe
        Nki, and Yarosh in the same company all-Jews. The Slavs are ruled by absolutely ALIEN, ALIEN, ENEMY personalities, and as a result of lies, blood, war, the Slavs kill the Slavs ...
        1. mark7
          mark7 April 26 2014 18: 52
          +1
          Quote: Horde
          ALIEN, ALIEN, ENEMY

          And one more PARAShenko
        2. sleepy
          sleepy April 26 2014 19: 20
          0
          Quote: Horde
          "... but you understand that all these Turchinovs, Yatstsenyuk, Tyagniboks, nicknames, Tymoshenko, and all the Jews in the same company are in power ..."


          Nevertheless, one should not row all the Jews into one comb and attribute only the bad to the Jewish nation.
          To the list based on the book by A. Dikoy "Jews in Russia and in the USSR"
          http://likbezxxi.narod.ru/vc/pril2.htm
          there is a list of "10 interesting facts about" the anti-Semite "Stalin"
          http://vk.com/wall-53616464_117834

          On the list of German Nazi criminals
          there is a list of Germans who have contributed to the development of humanism.

          On America's list of war crimes
          http://oko-planet.su/oko-planet/politik/politiklist/71678-polnyy-spisok-vseh-voe
          nnyh-prestupleniy-soedinennyh-shtatov-ameriki.html
          there is a list of "Great Russian Americans of All Time"
          http://alliruk.livejournal.com/305966.html

          America has been re-programmed over the past 40 years.
          http://w-w1.ru/node/58#comment-59
          Although once Americans were different
          http://w-w1.ru/node/58#comment-142
          America could be completely different, even though history
          modern America began with indigenous genocide
          http://zarubezhom.com/GenozidAmerica.htm

          And the Jews have nothing to do with it. That's about one Jew.
          Joseph Moyshe - Israeli microbiologist and Jew.
          Who was invited to a live radio show where a Jew spoke about
          that in Ukraine there are not only the secret dungeons of the CIA, but also the laboratory of the bioconcern Baxter and which actually produces biological weapons, which are passed off as a "vaccine".
          He said the vaccine contains supplements that kill the immune system.
          http://akfiti.livejournal.com/359079.html
          The brave Jew has already been arrested by the Los Angeles SWAT.
          http://alex-777-70.livejournal.com/581690.html
          On the English site about Joseph Moshe from Israel
          http://rense.com/general88/bax.htm

          The Jews were sun worshipers who were forced to destroy this cult.
          Of the Jews made an instrument in the destruction and humility of other nations
          http://energodar.net/black/hristianstvo/kniga_zverya.html

          You can write about the terror of the Jews
          http://ru.scribd.com/doc//50363478/%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9-%D
          0%96%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D0%95%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0
          %BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%80-%D0%B2-%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D
          0% B8% D0% B8
          But few write about the genocide of Jews
          Chapter 8. A concentration camp for Jews in the desert.
          http://modernlib.ru/books/naydis_david/bibleyskaya_pravda/read_15/
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 26 2014 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        as if embittered at all Rusyns.

        Sorry RUSSIA + in albo UKRa + in-et, the difference is obvious in the self-name. Thanks to M.N. Zadornov and A.S. Nekrasov for the lessons. The next time you try to define it, be more precise in your expressions. "E" and "I" replace (complement) each other. "Ukrainian" he = "wines"; "Russian" he = "yon (yen)". Russia + in = he is Russian. Ukra wines + (kovalek "polishness") "ts" = he is Ukrainian (nerus). The language itself will tell a person, who is not even a philologist, but has a brain, much of what the "Ukrainians (Urks = Orcs)" would like to hide.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 April 26 2014 09: 35
      +17
      Quote: Horde
      -Ukraine is a shame

      Ukraine is first and foremost nonsense.
      1. mister2013
        mister2013 April 26 2014 13: 46
        +2
        Well done Odessa good
    3. Horn
      Horn April 26 2014 11: 06
      +3
      And what do you want? Once upon a time, the founder of Sacrum Imperium Romanum Nationis Teutonicae and his successors used the indigenous population, the Slavs there, to fight against other Slavs. The hands of some Slavs destroyed others. The territories were liberated under the settlement of their tribes of Swabians, Teutas, and other rivers and Alemans.
      So, you cannot enter the same water twice, and history is a run in a circle. And only those people who see their true "guides" and "goats-provocateurs" can build their own state. Independent.
  3. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch April 26 2014 09: 14
    +3
    ... Especially since, apparently, the Russian leadership began to understand this ...

    The main thing is that the people of the southeast begin to understand this ...
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    2. 97110
      97110 April 26 2014 12: 00
      +1
      If you will, Semyon Semenych, showed that he understands. Politics is the art of the possible, and Putin from 2000-2001, who opposed the USA, could never understand something in 2014.
  4. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 26 2014 09: 15
    +13
    There are so many infections in the Ukrainian body, SUCH a percentage of infected, crippled people that it’s hard to imagine how (even in the case of the victory of Donbass) it will be possible to continue to coexist normally with them, and build something. I don’t feel like talking and imagining what will happen if the Eurozombies win.
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M April 26 2014 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: Gagarin
      There are so many infections in the Ukrainian body, SUCH the percentage of infected, crippled people,

      It is impossible to do without "antibiotics" (peacekeepers, and precisely Russian ones, since Western ones are more likely "dietary supplements" - visibility), and the sooner the better.
    2. PATTIY
      PATTIY April 26 2014 10: 33
      +3
      Quote: Gagarin
      I don’t feel like talking and imagining what will happen if the Eurozombies win.

      will work for the IMF or the USA. And the EU’s west will take the land. I have reliable information. Bulgarian lands are actively bought by citizens of Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark and other foggy / rainy countries. For a penny.
      For centuries, conquest has come to your lands.
      And now, what happened - no armies, conquests. Enough: to fool the population - time - state coup.
  5. Ulairy
    Ulairy April 26 2014 09: 15
    +2
    It seemed that the Russian-speaking inhabitants of these countries were not ready and would never be ready to assert their rights
    Yeah, yeah ... try, maydauns in a suit, say to an ordinary miner or steelmaker after a 12-hour shift: "You rabble, now you will plow on us for a penny, bother only on" mov "and not speak." And he will break your head with the nearest reinforcement ...
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 26 2014 09: 43
      +8
      Quote: Ulairy
      try, maydauns in a suit, say to an ordinary miner or steelmaker after a 12-hour shift: "You rabble, now you will plow for us for a penny, bother only on" mov "and not speak." And he will break your head with the nearest reinforcement ...

      Until I broke ...
      Although he may not be directly told "" you, rabble, will plow on us ... ", but in fact, this is how it is.
      Yes, several thousand brave guys rebelled in the Donbass, but where are tens of thousands of miners and steelworkers?
      Will they rise again? God grant.
    2. Horn
      Horn April 26 2014 13: 39
      +2
      Quote: Ulairy
      It seemed that the Russian-speaking inhabitants of these countries were not ready and would never be ready to assert their rights
      Yeah, yeah ... try, maydauns in a suit, say to an ordinary miner or steelmaker after a 12-hour shift: "You rabble, now you will plow on us for a penny, bother only on" mov "and not speak." And he will break your head with the nearest reinforcement ...

      - They say. And they will speak. And they will do it. And the sons of these miners will be killed. And to rape daughters. And the miners will be a hack in the face to cut a little coal. So that Yaroshi-Yaytsenyuhi with the Turchins of the Galician ragul, murderer and rapist, could buy a new bat. You can’t see the MASSIVE performance of people. They are being cut, and they are silent! Resignedly kicking and spitting.
      https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=40492126&id=168495735&hash=6a681a810a8f045d&hd=
      1
  6. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 26 2014 09: 16
    +1
    This people ALWAYS UNDERSTAND, just did not hear him, he was not allowed to say.
    Quote: Semyon Semyonich
    The main thing is that the people of the southeast begin to understand this ...
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 26 2014 09: 43
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      This people ALWAYS UNDERSTAND, just did not hear him, he was not allowed to say

      And here I do not agree with you, "they do not allow to say" exactly what now, not just "do not give", but they threaten to KILL!
      Previously, it was easier to do everything, it was just that everyone was happy, and did not WANT to notice what was happening, and what it could all lead to!
  7. Name
    Name April 26 2014 09: 22
    +7
    Until the absolute majority of Russians (Russian-speaking) rise in the Southeast, resistance is in danger and you should not rely only on Russia’s help while idle.
  8. nomad74
    nomad74 April 26 2014 09: 26
    +2
    The author does not believe in Russia! why? Isn't that the point of the article? Type rely only on yourself, which means be quieter and lower than grass because Russia will not help! And stop the self-determination of forces is not enough! After all, Russia, after the collapse of the Union, did nothing for its own in the former republics! But she didn’t because of the elementary weakness of the state, but of the puppet government! Conclusion: under the correct postulates and idioms about Galicia, the author lays the bomb on Russia's lack of confidence when she herself needs the full support of her population and the population of the Russian, former republics, as if by virtue of which she declares her independent will to the world aggressor! And by virtue of which will help the Russians in the former republics, but we need to believe right now in a difficult and not simple moment in history!
  9. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 26 2014 09: 27
    +7
    Very interesting article. And there they washed the brains well. Another 10-20 years and they will forget the RUSSIAN language. For many, we are now enemies. From RUSSIAN make not RUSSIAN. fool WAKE UP before it's too late! drinks
  10. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 26 2014 09: 28
    +2
    I repeat.
    You do not forget that the Gestapo (SBU) throughout the territory of Donbass EVERY DAY, REGULAR, NIGHT, ARREST AND PUNCH PEOPLE, those who are more active. Putting security around the clock is simply utopia.
    Quote: name
    Until the absolute majority of Russians (Russian speakers) rise in the Southeast
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 26 2014 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      Putting security around the clock is simply utopia.

      That is, in your opinion, is Slavyansk a utopia?
      There is no one to guard over! It is necessary to organize and defend yourself and your territory! What is incomprehensible?
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 27 2014 14: 34
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      do not forget that the Gestapo (SBU) throughout the territory of Donbass EVERY DAY, REGULAR, NIGHT, ARREST AND TAKE away PEOPLE, those who are more active.

      And what did you think they would not take away? Will they exhort? This was not the case in political crises in any country.
      In order not to come, they must be detained, liquidated, i.e. to take power into their own hands in peaceful and non-peaceful ways.
      What is now observed in some places in Ukraine.
      And the main thing in this process is the activity of the masses. There will be activity - there will be a "triumphal march of Soviet power", as at the end of 1917.
      There will be no activity - do not blame me, another time.
  11. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 26 2014 09: 31
    +3
    The Ukrainian disease is in an extremely neglected state ... the treatment will be long .. you need to enable the body to cope with the infection itself, otherwise it will be of little use
  12. Sergg
    Sergg April 26 2014 09: 36
    +2
    The unity of the Russian people should not be completely destroyed. Those who are now opposed to Western fascism in the Donbass, of course, are the heroes of our time. Truly heroes. They are doing the work that all the same is necessary for the state authorities of Russia.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 26 2014 09: 50
      +4
      Quote: Sergg
      They are doing the work that all the same is necessary for the state authorities of Russia.

      What are those who are now in Yu.V. fighting heroes is a fact.
      But your last statement is complete nonsense!
      Too lazy even to explain "why", we have already analyzed this more than once!
  13. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 26 2014 10: 00
    +3
    It is written strongly and fully enough. Thanks to Dmitry Rodionov for a good article.
    ".. the ideology was in demand after 1991. There was simply no other." - as I am sure it was the ideology launched by Gorbachev, who did everything to meet "European values" and American face control. As a result, where are the people now and where is "His Excellency" - Gorbachev. He provided for himself, children and grandchildren. They say among the people "without difficulty - you can't get a fish out of the pond" - in this case, Gorbachev succeeded, but only through betrayal, which he apparently absorbed with his mother's milk. Today, the southeast actually resists - extermination - and the further, the more obvious such a policy of the maydanuts and their patrons becomes.
  14. uzer 13
    uzer 13 April 26 2014 10: 14
    +6
    You won’t be forcibly sweethearted. Those who wanted to live in Russia have already received Russian passports. The rest means they have plans for a happy life in the European community. Therefore, they hope that after the elections everything will change and the new owners will settle it. what do they still want.
  15. Curbstone xnumx
    Curbstone xnumx April 26 2014 10: 16
    +2
    The people in the southeast are busy working in large enterprises, mines, etc. And in western Ukraine there are practically no large enterprises, probably the close proximity to the European Union is affecting. Those people who did not leave the floors to wash in Europe, and created extras on the Maidan. Notice among all those who died on the Maidan, there are only a few from central Ukraine, all the other zapadentsy. And even sadder is that mostly on the Maidan there were mostly students and young people duped by Ukrainian propaganda. This means that the southeast and western Ukraine have no common future and are not expected in the near future.
  16. serge
    serge April 26 2014 10: 53
    -1
    Russian Army?
  17. vik669
    vik669 April 26 2014 10: 58
    +2
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: svetlomor
    Why is she so needed? No Ukraine - no problem.

    But you have obvious problems with understanding the geopolitical significance of Ukraine for Russia.

    It is amazing where people come from who do not see beyond their nose ...

    Lost more than 20 years ago. In Ukraine, completely different people lived than those who grew up in Ukraine
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 26 2014 15: 49
      +3
      Quote: vik669
      Lost over 20 years ago

      Alas, alas, alas. A generation of "Russians" has already grown up who do not know and do not want to know Russia, but really want to become citizens of the European Union. Read the comments, watch the interviews (video) in the Ukrainian media, how many people in Russian are cursing Russia! Some try to express themselves in "Ukrainian mov", but they cannot connect more than a dozen words and switch to Russian. These people are not afraid of the ban on the Russian language; they are not afraid of the impending discrimination of Russians, for they are ready to stop being Russian, ready, as the author put it, " assimilated "; ready to easily part with a sense of national identity, national dignity (yes, it seems, have already parted). Recently, I began to pay attention to the following fact: the South-East has several million people (8?; 10?), and in the armed militia -2000 fighters. The questions arise: does the majority of the population really want to resist the Bandera junta? Does it really want to remain Russian and preserve the Russian language, a sense of national identity? Do we need to "tear the vest on our chest" and shout "we will reach Kiev" rush to the NATO embrasures?
      1. koshh
        koshh April 26 2014 17: 27
        0
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Do we need to "tear the vest on our chest" and shout "we will reach Kiev" rush to the NATO embrasures?

        The vest then we all tear apart, but if the southeasterns themselves do not rise, then ....
  18. sv68
    sv68 April 26 2014 11: 19
    +1
    the article of a typical all-embracing officer, like Russia bad and threw their own to the mercy of fate, and then howl that we don’t need to go to a foreign Russia and where are we without Russia, the author honestly earned his minus
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 26 2014 11: 33
    +1
    The article is good by the way. Yes, we can force the zapadentsev to peace. But what will it give in the future? Yes, all the same. There is either genocide up to the fifth knee, or separation according to Wishlist. Zapadentsy want to live in their mentality of rubbers of European asses, to allocate territory to them and let them live there. Gradually, residents from other areas of the former Ukraine will catch up with them. And let them live there. The main thing is to punish them hard for creeping into the rest of the country. But in the near term, it is important that as many people from the south and east as possible raise their experiences and declare their desire to live with zapadentsev or build their own country.
  20. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 26 2014 11: 37
    +4
    The task now is to save the Russians in Ukraine from the genocide unleashed by the Bandera fascist junta.
    1. koshh
      koshh April 26 2014 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      The task now is to save the Russians in Ukraine from the genocide unleashed by the Bandera fascist junta.

      And how do you imagine - "to save the Russians"? You are Russian? - to the East; are you russian ukrainian? - to the center; are you westerner - to the west. How to divide them so that you know who to save?
      1. mark7
        mark7 April 26 2014 19: 07
        0
        Quote: koshh
        . How to share them to know

        That's just the point, a referendum is needed, but there still the people have not ripened
  21. Alexey N
    Alexey N April 26 2014 11: 48
    +5
    It's time to finally get rid of the patterns imposed on us. Ukrainians are not a nationality. There are Russians, but there are (in the west of the outskirts) do not understand who. Until we start calling things by their proper names, we cannot solve the problems. For decades we turned a blind eye to Zapadnetsk fascism and now we got it from the "fraternal people." Down with stereotypes!
    It's time to gather people and land!
  22. GUSAR
    GUSAR April 26 2014 12: 08
    +3
    The southeast of "Ukraine" is Russia, or rather the fact that Russia was once forcibly torn off, and historical Ukraine itself is not a brother or matchmaker to us, let it go wherever it wants, it will creep up afterwards, like Khmelnytsky in his time .. ...
  23. morpogr
    morpogr April 26 2014 13: 24
    +1
    It is a pity for people who do not understand that they are taking advantage of their interests, and then they are thrown out as unnecessary. Sobering will come and soon but will be very difficult.
  24. melnik
    melnik April 26 2014 13: 25
    +2
    The man who defended the right to be Russian with weapons in his hands is more dangerous for the Russian elite than for the Kiev one. These people can give a powerful impetus to the all-Russian national liberation movement. I hope that Putin will turn out to be who I consider him to be a Russian nationalist.
    1. Horde
      Horde April 26 2014 14: 05
      -3
      Quote: melnik
      I hope that Putin will turn out to be who I consider him to be a Russian nationalist.


      don’t expect words from the song


      http://poiskpravdy.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/putmed/
      1. melnik
        melnik April 26 2014 21: 18
        0
        Yes, I’m ready to wear and dance Mayufes, if only it would benefit the cause
        1. Horde
          Horde April 26 2014 22: 16
          0
          Quote: melnik
          Yes, I’m ready to wear and dance Mayufes, if only it would benefit the cause


          Well, it's you, and put a pile on the Russian man ...
  25. sarov 69
    sarov 69 April 26 2014 15: 19
    +1
    That's right, there is a war against Russia in all possible ways. Tanu does not care how many people die and by whose hands it will be done. When everyone who is now trying to sit out "my house is on the edge" will realize that the Banderaites will not talk to anyone, but will simply kill, as their grandfathers did, and indiscriminately, simply because you are Russian or speak In Russian, I think the situation will become clearer. By the way, I am not exaggerating much, Yarosh demands to arm his people, the information is open, imagine who will be armed. The government of Ukraine now, giving weapons to Bandera, is actually freeing their hands for murder. After killing a person, it is not difficult to put a bottle with a combustible mixture in his hands and say that he wanted to attack, and so be it.
    1. koshh
      koshh April 26 2014 17: 35
      +1
      Quote: sarov 69
      When everyone who is now trying to sit out "my hut is on the edge" will understand that Bandera will not talk to anyone,

      They will only reach when they kill the neighbor’s family before their eyes.
  26. Galan
    Galan April 26 2014 15: 40
    +1
    I agree with the author in many ways, I wanted to put a plus, but there is something that does not allow me to do this unconditionally
    "... many Russians, tired of the lawlessness happening in Russia itself ..." The author is absolutely sure of this?
    "... when the small, but passionate West rebelled against the cancellation of the decision to associate with the EU ...". What is passionarity? Golichina practically lost all industry, agriculture there has always been unprofitable. It is not for nothing that the Canadian Ukrainian diaspora was formed from immigrants from Western Ukraine. During the Maidan period, there was an opportunity to earn a little, for the Maidan they paid well. Money is the "passionarity" of Galicia.
    "And therefore I support that I understand: we have lost Ukraine." We have not lost anything. Galicia is not Ukraine and has never had anything to do with it. Of the currently existing states, it can be classified as a "similar crumb" of Poland. Where should it be defined, and the rest is part of the Russian world.
  27. fbn
    fbn April 26 2014 17: 18
    +1
    The article is true — whoever lived in the post-Soviet space will appreciate it. We need to support our brothers — Russians — throughout the world — albeit morally. But we must support Ukraine financially — they cannot survive without this support. Effectively and expeditiously to do this through state channels. There is only one hope for the President, the Government and the readiness to sacrifice to a small extent their well-being by the Russians.
  28. Mister anderson
    Mister anderson April 26 2014 17: 23
    +1
    ☭ DONBASS GETS UP ☭
    “If you don’t know, then the topic of the last week in Ukraine is the general construction of checkpoints everywhere and in all cities.
    Such block posts (sandbags) were also built around Odessa. What is interesting is that mostly non-local people are sitting at the block posts - Maidans.
    Ukroflag hang out and inspect the car.
    Today, while these patriots chased teas and lost a little vigilance, other patriots threw a grenade at them from the car.
    But the people of Maydan are beaten, everyone was wearing armor, they suffered little.
    What is interesting - all the inhabitants of Odessa betrayed this news to each other with joy and words, so they need it or the fascist received a grenade !!!
    They are right. "
  29. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 26 2014 17: 30
    0
    Maybe stop buttoning already? The same pictures wander from branch to branch. And this one, that with Putin in a yarmulke, is generally bearded, I have met her for about five years on the Internet.

    But, on the topic. What passionarity of the West are we talking about? It's just another country, nothing more. Remember history, remember the Brest Peace, a lot will become clear. All are addressed to the Russian Empire, which included both Poland and Finland, and not just Ukraine. But after the revolution, according to the Brest agreement, the empire was gnawed to its ears. Both Western Ukraine and Eastern are different countries. I'm not talking about geopolitics, but about mentality, traditions, inclinations. The poor "cultured" West, living at the expense of the hard-working East, has always treated the Donbass with contempt. Look at the last "Military Secret", there are Ivano-Frankivsk pensioners, God's dandelions, the East and Russia are on fire, on what the world is. These are grandmothers living on a $ 150 pension, the ultimate dream is a daughter or a son working as a guest worker in Italy (it's easier to find work there). The subsidized West will never treat the East, which contains it, as an equal, miners for "cultural" Westerners - who are obliged to support them, kulturtrager. Everything is aimed at this, propaganda, everyday nationalism, and finally, a stupid egoistic desire to continue to sit on the neck of the "-region". Eighty percent subsidies and nationalist arrogance are the essence of the West of Ukraine.

    I do not presume to vang, generally I do not believe in predictions. But it seems to me that peace in Ukraine can come only in the event of a final polar division of the country. Moreover, the East does not have to adjoin Russia; it may well be an independent state that pursues an independent policy. And the West will continue to do its utmost to crawl into the EU, well, at least to settle down on a rug at the threshold. For in the event of the separation of Donbass, the West turns into an absolutely hopeless bankrupt, whose only chance is to survive at the expense of more affluent neighbors.
  30. repytw
    repytw April 26 2014 17: 52
    +1
    He set the article as a minus, because I think that if Ukrainians were made from Russians in 23 years, what prevents them from doing it the other way around, since it’s easier to do it, not everything is lost. In my opinion, Russia needs to be done so that Ukrainians (deceived Russians) themselves ask for Russian peace, want to reject their dill, and for this they should be very bad, hungry and cold. Russia needs to block the Ukrainian people without liberal snot: turn off the gas, stop all economic and diplomatic activities and by winter, even Yarosh, if he is not killed by hungry baderlogs, will look for Russian roots in himself in order to obtain Russian citizenship. The West will not help them.
  31. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 26 2014 18: 09
    +1
    It is necessary to put the question differently: "Do you want to go to Europe? Get out there! .."
  32. Bosk
    Bosk April 26 2014 18: 44
    +1
    I can say, using the example of Latvia, Russians in the near abroad ... they are firstly Soviet, and secondly and tenths Russians, maybe that's why many still do not take their citizenship ... because they have already taken an oath and given not some banana-sprat enclave, but a great power. And change the citizenship of a great power to some sort of "Sprat certificate" ...
  33. borys
    borys April 26 2014 21: 06
    +2
    What's the problem? Russian - to Russia. Together with the territory in which
    they live. Orthodox Ukrainians - to Canada, the USA and Europe.