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Will they help Pavel Gubarev?

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The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry appealed to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) with a request to visit the "people's governor" of the Donetsk region Pavel Gubarev, who was arrested by Ukrainian security forces in early March. According to RIA News, to this appeal was received a positive response.


Will they help Pavel Gubarev?


Also, according to ITAR-TASS, the appeal was sent to the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva, which, among other things, is obliged to visit prisoners in the places of their detention.

The Foreign Ministry explained that such urgency was required due to the sharp deterioration in the state of health of Pavel Gubarev.
Sergey Lavrov noted that the Russian side will seek early access to the prisoner to make sure that he is all right with his health, as well as continue efforts to free him as a political prisoner.

As far as Gubarev’s supporters are aware, he is being held in the Lukyanovka pre-trial detention center in Kiev. According to them, he and about ten more people were abducted in early March by the Security Service of Ukraine and taken to Kiev.

According to the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies, Pavel Gubarev, forcibly seizing power in the Donetsk region, tried to encroach on the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

Vyacheslav Ponomarev, “People's Mayor” of Slavyansk, proposes to exchange him for American prisoner from Vice News Simon Ostrovsky for the prisoner 21 of April.

The Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine, in turn, opened a criminal case against persons who detained an American journalist under article 146 (unlawful deprivation of liberty or abduction of a person) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. According to the same article, according to Interfax, proceedings were instituted against persons who captured Irma Krat, who intended to conduct a journalistic investigation in Slavyansk.
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  1. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq April 25 2014 16: 51
    +12
    It’s necessary to pull out a man, otherwise the banderlogs are torturing ... Radishes .....
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 25 2014 16: 56
      +3
      Russians do not leave their .....
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 25 2014 17: 08
        +3
        Quote: SS68SS
        Russians do not leave their .....

        !!! We decided with a sign at the end of this sentence that this is a statement (!) Or a question (?).
        The fact that Gubarev had been in a coma for about a month ago, about the fact that he was personally beaten by the Minister of Internal Affairs of the junta AvaVkov at about the same time. And rushed just now.
      2. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 April 25 2014 21: 03
        +2
        I will run into cons. And let ... But Gubarev looks bad. And we (who?) Are not for UNITS ... we don’t want the guy to be killed, even simply because he has a family ..
    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 25 2014 16: 56
      0
      Russians do not leave their .....
      1. jjj
        jjj April 25 2014 16: 59
        +8
        The Americans have already released. He complained that he was kept in the basement along with alcoholics. But it looks fresh. And with might and main vilify self-defense forces
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 25 2014 16: 57
      +6
      No one will render except our special forces ..! His junta will not release ..
    4. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 25 2014 16: 57
      +8
      Quote: ziqzaq
      It’s necessary to pull out the peasant, otherwise the banderlogs will be tortured.

      He is not alone there, everyone needs to be pulled out, he can catch and exchange the bander.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq April 25 2014 17: 07
        +2
        Quote: svetlomor
        He is not alone there, everyone needs to be pulled out, he can catch and exchange the bander.

        I completely agree with you ... hi
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 April 25 2014 21: 06
          0
          But on who? Apparently, I'm behind ... recourse
      2. Case48
        Case48 April 25 2014 17: 20
        +1
        They don’t shit
      3. Vasek
        Vasek April 25 2014 18: 13
        +3
        It was necessary to catch Yulka in Donetsk during her campaign trip.
        It would definitely be enough to exchange for everyone!
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 April 25 2014 21: 09
          0
          Who needs it? God forbid, if your children at least ... It is a pity for people who live without awareness of a higher purpose.
    5. Validator
      Validator April 25 2014 17: 03
      +4
      Gubarev will be released only after the liberation of Kiev.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 25 2014 17: 09
        +3
        Quote: Validator
        Gubarev will be released only after the liberation of Kiev.

        But will the juntas allow him to survive in the dungeons?
      2. MAG
        MAG April 25 2014 18: 51
        -4
        For all our loyalty to Gubarev, everything is not as simple as it seems. The emergence of such a "leader" in the east was not spontaneous. Read, dig, look for information on certain characters, I understand everything that he became a "victim of the junta" but this is also not a sign that he is ours. Having a higher education, he cannot coherently answer without a piece of paper what his program, goals, and this applies not only to him but to all leaders of the East. Capturing the oblast of buildings and raids will not and will not lead to anything. I have a friend in the east since mid-March, in his words, "everyone is waiting for help from Russia, but there is a passionate minority at the barricades, the rest are cracking only in kitchens." All the cities that have risen are small and therefore united, and Kharkiv, Donbass, Lugansk are in no hurry to rise.
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 April 25 2014 21: 12
          0
          And what does Gubarev have to do with it ?!
  2. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 25 2014 16: 51
    +7
    And at this time in the Donetsk region the OSCE military commission disappeared, coincidence?

    Southern Front | Anti-Maidan
    Today in 16: 39
    #Antimaydan #RussianSpring #UVF #South Front

    Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced the loss of communication with the OSCE mission in the Donetsk region

    The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced the loss of communication with representatives of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) mission in the Donetsk region. According to the director of the information policy department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Yevhen Perebeynos, they could have been abducted.

    "In the Donetsk region, communication with the OSCE military verification mission has disappeared. According to preliminary data, they could have been kidnapped," he said. Perebeinos said that "if this information is confirmed, the OSCE and Ukraine will give an adequate answer."

    http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1147677
    1. jura61
      jura61 April 25 2014 16: 56
      +8
      Yes, it’s not a coincidence, a familiar emphasis for the next assault on Slavyansk. I remember Bulatov’s ears were cut off, they were doused with ketchup, during all this time there was so much farce, cheap farce that they themselves do not believe in this farce.
  3. fregina1
    fregina1 April 25 2014 16: 52
    +7
    Obliged to help! This is a potential leader of the East! It's already a NAME today! ... unless of course he is alive ... but something tells you not just for that the Red Cross requested it! This means great doubts about its existence and health!Well, God bless him!
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 25 2014 16: 56
      0
      Yes, he went on a hunger strike in protest

      http://novorossia.su/node/623
  4. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 25 2014 16: 52
    +4
    As if Svidomo did not torture the guy. When it comes out - a ready candidate for the presidency of Ukraine. The main thing is that he has the courage, unlike the yanyk.
    1. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer April 25 2014 17: 44
      +1
      Quote: FC Skif
      As if Svidomo did not torture the guy. When it comes out - a ready candidate for the presidency of Ukraine. The main thing is that he has the courage, unlike the yanyk.

      When it comes out, there will be no Ukraine anymore (thank God).
  5. ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 25 2014 16: 52
    +6
    Freedom to Pavel Gubarev! Lavrov said.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 25 2014 17: 14
      +2
      Quote: ZU-23
      Freedom to Pavel Gubarev! Lavrov said.


      For a month I was late with what was said.
  6. SS68SS
    SS68SS April 25 2014 16: 53
    +5
    Effectively it is necessary to put pressure on the facts of kidnapping SBU. In international courts to file for the junta. Russian do not abandon their ....
  7. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 25 2014 16: 53
    +4
    RESCUE IS NEEDED BY GUBAREV until they beat him to death.
  8. rugor
    rugor April 25 2014 16: 54
    +3
    Pulling out is not so easy. But the mess sooner or later will end, will come out as a national hero. I hope the future authorities will not forget him and people like him.
  9. Horly
    Horly April 25 2014 16: 55
    +5
    Soon the Donetsk region will turn into the Bermuda Triangle - what’s horrible is what’s gone
  10. santush
    santush April 25 2014 16: 55
    +1
    Exchange ALL detainees for, say, someone ...
  11. Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 25 2014 16: 56
    +8
    They smashed the guy, God forbid that it wasn’t, but even after his detention in Kiev there was a leak that he was transferred to the infirmary almost in a coma, these are the animals of Zapadenskie animals, it’s a pity the man has three children, there’s nothing to say ....
  12. mig31
    mig31 April 25 2014 16: 57
    +2
    The gang is not able to meet the mind, for them a man is a jerk, until they themselves fall into the net ...
  13. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 25 2014 16: 57
    +5
    God grant that everything was normal with Paul, and what else I would like to add is that such people will be worth their weight in gold in a new revived society.
    I really hope that when everything settles down, people like him WILL TAKE DECENT POSTS AND OFFICES, and will not be quietly pushed into the shadows by brisk fitters.
  14. grog_bm
    grog_bm April 25 2014 17: 03
    +3
    Judging by the logic of the junta, they will not return the guy, they will either beat him up, or some running pravosek will accidentally shoot 5 times in the head, they say suicide, but he will not be released anyway before the 25th ...
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 25 2014 17: 03
    +3
    Today I listened to Lavrov’s speech .. Kerry says I constantly remind you about Gubarev (he promised to figure it out))) If he would be released (a good leader to begin with ..) Work is underway in this direction ... But I'm afraid they will kill it (the beast has gathered there) it’s difficult to agree. .
  16. tnship2
    tnship2 April 25 2014 17: 05
    +4
    All the time since the beginning of the Ukrainian events, Kiev was doing stupidity after stupidity. I did not stop even at bloody stupidities. I do not want to call out misfortune, God forbid, but they grabbed hold of Gubarev in earnest. In the current situation, he can only be given moral support. Hoping for the best.
  17. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn April 25 2014 17: 07
    0
    Mi-8 and An-2 exploded at Kramatorsk airfield
  18. Santor
    Santor April 25 2014 17: 07
    +5
    Quote: jjj
    The Americans have already released. He complained that he was kept in the basement along with alcoholics. But it looks fresh. And with might and main vilify self-defense forces

    Yes, this is a Bandera with an American passport and not an American ...
  19. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 25 2014 17: 09
    +3
    Hold on, Paul! Our moral support is complete for you. Our Foreign Ministry will try to help you as soon as possible. All the best is yet to come.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 25 2014 17: 20
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Our Foreign Ministry will try to help you as soon as possible.

      And where was the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for more than a month, when Gubarev was in a coma, and before that he was tortured with prejudice by the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the junta AvAvkov, not personally embarrassed in his methods - was he asleep?

      Quote: Thought Giant
      All the best is yet to come.

      This is after the state in which the junta's shoulder case masters led him to the dungeons?
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 25 2014 17: 45
      +2
      You better help "financially".
  20. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 25 2014 17: 14
    +3
    Gentlemen, scouts, we must pull our own from the Nazi prison!
  21. delfinN
    delfinN April 25 2014 17: 18
    +5
    JUNTA - Randomly Managed Insane Trupchinovsky Ensemble;
    NATO - National American Terrorist Organization;
    USA - The United Gang of Aggressors;
    EU - European Separatists;
    SBU - Serving Bandera Ukraine; ??

    NSDC - Opposition National Bandits Service;
    Media - Mass Tantrum Service

    GPU - State Criminals of Ukraine;
    FREEDOM - Separatist Armed Organization of Mediocrity Olukhs Fools of Alcoholics;
    APU - Armed Tale of Ukraine;
    PUTIN - President Governing the Interests of the People Only;
    YAROSH - Furious Steering Opposition Gangs;
    BP - Thieves;
    PACE - Passive Organization of the Separatists of Europe;
    NBU - Insatiable Bank of Ukraine;
    G7 - America and its sixes;
  22. vorobey
    vorobey April 25 2014 17: 35
    +2
    It was infa that the guy was beaten to a coma. Therefore, they hide it. A significant evidence of the crime regime. let's see what kind of answer they will give.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 25 2014 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: vorobey
      let's see what kind of answer they will give.


      What the hell is that month-long question and answer to it if the healthy guy in the dungeons of the Kuev Gestapo was turned into a bloodied piece of meat
      1. vorobey
        vorobey April 25 2014 18: 00
        +2
        Quote: Hudo
        Quote: vorobey
        let's see what kind of answer they will give.


        What the hell is that month-long question and answer to it if the healthy guy in the dungeons of the Kuev Gestapo was turned into a bloodied piece of meat


        Our proof is needed. real irrefutable.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo April 25 2014 18: 07
          +1
          Quote: vorobey

          Our proof is needed. real irrefutable.

          It turns out that they were waiting in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the executioners to bring Gubarev to condition, would they display their butchery in all their infamy? Gadenko somehow comes out.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey April 25 2014 18: 23
            +2
            Quote: Hudo
            It turns out that they were waiting in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the executioners to bring Gubarev to condition, would they display their butchery in all their infamy? Gadenko somehow comes out.


            YOU are wrong. Too long to explain. analyze the situation from the beginning ... what and how who did it. and why the acute phase never comes.
            1. Hudo
              Hudo April 25 2014 19: 12
              0
              [quote = vorobey] [/ quote]

              YOU are wrong. Too long to explain. analyze the situation from the beginning ... what and how who did it. and why the acute phase never comes. [/ Quote]
              Yes, God is with her with an acute phase, not actually talking about her. What phase could interfere with what was voiced at the diplomatic level now? I mean a request to the International Red Cross, to PACE, to the OSCE and other UN - you don’t need finances, just write a piece of paper and send it by voice until (conditionally) the bones have healed and the torn nails have not recovered and the second time they did not start breaking and tearing.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey April 25 2014 19: 22
                +1
                Do not take it by the throat. they themselves are. Not only your nerves.

                Tried humanly. does not exceed. Now they began to play openly. Or have you heard?

                There will be no answer brother .. believe ...
  23. Santor
    Santor April 25 2014 17: 38
    +6
    Quote: Hudo
    And where was the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for more than a month, when Gubarev was in a coma, and before that he was tortured with prejudice by the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the junta AvaVkov, not personally embarrassed in the methods - he slept


    Have you stood next to Avakov and kept a candle ... Or have you watched the television set ??? That's where such garbage comes from ?? Gubarev was originally a sick person, he needs constant medical supervision ... Understand that this is not a kitchen, but a forum where pretty adults gather, who in the days of the USSR learned to read what they do not want to write and what they want but cannot write on the contrary .. And all this between the lines. we have long passed a fence where it says that something lies behind it ....
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 25 2014 17: 50
      +2
      Quote: Santor
      And you were standing next to Avakov and holding a candle ... Or did you revise the televisor?

      No, my dear, I live in the Donbass and we have a junta false TV that is not much in demand.
      Would you instead of writing smart words that have little compatibility with reality, explain in a nutshell what prevented, moreover, for example, Lavrov from raising this issue earlier? Maybe the caviar of the jaw glued together, or cognac Armenian spirit beat him?
      1. vorobey
        vorobey April 25 2014 18: 28
        +3
        Again Lavrov is to blame ... And why didn’t you beat off yours? And so we are guilty and so we are guilty.
        1. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 25 2014 19: 11
          +1
          And we are always and to blame for everything in Ukraine, aren’t you used to?
      2. mark7
        mark7 April 25 2014 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: Hudo
        what prevented, besides, for example, Lavrov raise this issue earlier

        Well, first, first get yourself a minister like Lavrov, and then you can demand a smart guy from him, and despite a lot of respect for Gubarev, he is not a citizen of the Russian Federation
        1. Hudo
          Hudo April 25 2014 19: 05
          0
          Quote: mark7

          Well, first, first get yourself a minister like Lavrov, and then you can demand a wise guy from him

          Your rudeness and vomiting is not an argument. Will you please and substantiate your personal opinion?
          Quote: mark7
          Despite great respect for Gubarev, he is not a citizen of the Russian Federation

          I dare to remind you, since your memory pumped up, Gubarev is a Russian person both by nationality and by spirit. The guys from "Berkut" also did not have Russian citizenship - this is so for you, to start the thinking process in the slogan generator.
          1. mark7
            mark7 April 25 2014 19: 26
            -1
            Quote: Hudo
            I dare to remind you

            Read your opinion, I’ve stated it above, I’m talking about the legal side of things, and there’s no rudeness here, it’s better to write what you are doing for your country — you’re not empty
            1. Hudo
              Hudo April 25 2014 19: 50
              +2
              Quote: mark7
              Read your opinion above

              I read it very carefully. After reading, I was very glad that, based on a wide range of contacts with citizens of the Russian Federation (border 40 km), you would like people who would not mind talking about the Slavic brotherhood and other things, and when discussing the issue of real support with just the words in words their true mug comes out from a certain high tribune and they, as an argument justifying inaction, speak of the lack of citizenship of the Russian Federation, and so on. nonsense, negligible.
              Quote: mark7
              better write what you do for your country

              I do not quite understand which country you have in mind. If Ukraine, then living in Lugansk in the Donbass, I found myself an activity that helps to ensure that this Bandera misunderstanding quickly disappears. Low, unlike the previous one, activity on this site, evidence of this - there is simply not enough time.
              just to read.
              For a sim, I take my leave. Chatting with people like you is a waste of time.
              1. mark7
                mark7 April 25 2014 20: 05
                -3
                Quote: Hudo
                For a sim, I take my leave

                Get out more often, they say it’s useful
              2. Aleksandr65
                Aleksandr65 April 25 2014 21: 27
                +1
                Good luck and strength to you!
          2. mark7
            mark7 April 25 2014 19: 46
            -1
            Quote: Hudo
            Put your personal opinion and

            If my opinion is, then only an exchange and the forces of the townspeople then the Russian Federation to join, but something needs to be done of course, and as for the Russians, they live all over the world, and passports are different, how to legally protect them
  24. KAVS
    KAVS April 25 2014 17: 41
    0
    Tymoshenko needs to be taken hostage .... FOR EXCHANGE .... laughing
  25. individual
    individual April 25 2014 17: 42
    +4
    Well guys, that’s not how things are done.
    It is necessary to take their governor from the Maidan camp and then set the condition.
    It’s not enough to add a couple more law-breakers from their self-styled hundreds, but nothing will work out.
  26. Sun 162
    Sun 162 April 25 2014 18: 04
    0
    [quote = Hudo] [/ quote]

    What the hell is that month-long question and answer to it if the healthy guy in the dungeons of the Kuev Gestapo was turned into a bloodied piece of meat [/ quote]
    And he, in your opinion, is a little boy, he did not know what he was going on?
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 25 2014 18: 16
      +3
      [quote = Dim 162] [quote = Hudo] [/ quote]

      What the hell is that month-long question and answer to it if the healthy guy in the dungeons of the Kuev Gestapo was turned into a bloodied piece of meat [/ quote]
      And he is your little boy, he did not know what he was going on? [/ Quote]

      To the directly posed question, as I understand it, there is no answer. What was going on, Gubarev and other patriots understood but nevertheless went and go. And in the dungeons not only Gubarev.
      The question is that there were a lot of negotiation platforms in order to raise this issue of political prisoners in mazepia and not to forget about the question of inquiry methods a la Gestapo. And to raise it except Russia is no one else. So I ask, why did they pull so much?
      1. Aleksandr65
        Aleksandr65 April 25 2014 21: 39
        0
        And not just a request for Gubarev. And why are Lavrov and his ilk not on the Maidan in Lugansk, Slavyansk, Donetsk, just like the Nudelman, Germans, Swedes on the Maidan in Kiev? What support would be abandoned by all! Guys, SAVE YOURSELF, you are the best ...
  27. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn April 25 2014 18: 16
    +3
    How can we help besides voice acting at the rallies of the South-East of Ukraine of Zhanna Bichevskaya's songs "Russian March", "Russians are coming". It's all sad! ??? I always wait for the address of the President of the Russian Federation, as it was in 1941 with the address of I.V. Stalin, "Citizens and Citizens ,,,,,,,,,,, and then everyone ... we'll go!
    1. sergey751
      sergey751 April 25 2014 18: 41
      +1
      Yes, vladimirvn you are right, let’s all go, let the president say, at my work, 19,20 year old boys have never been interested in politics, since February they haven’t left the radio when news about Ukraine.
  28. mamont5
    mamont5 April 25 2014 18: 22
    +1
    It is necessary to detain their defendants. And on barter.
  29. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 25 2014 18: 46
    0
    Tymoshenko and Poroshenko are only raids in the east of Ukraine, but there are new rich governors. Take one and exchange.
    An appeal to the international Red Cross is good, but this organization is not a gift either. In the east, the delivery of essential medicines was stopped, and they are not gu-gu.
  30. kelevra
    kelevra April 25 2014 20: 12
    0
    So they are fighting the freedom that the whole people called for! They have given themselves freedom of action, and now they are trying to drive ordinary people into the framework!