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11 Thousands of Soldiers Fight Against Civilians in Eastern Ukraine

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Today NEWS published a statement by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu that at present in the territory of Eastern Ukraine more than ten thousand fully armed Ukrainian military men have come out against civilians. In addition, approximately 160 were also involved in this operation. tanks, more than two hundred infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, about 150 guns and mortars, not to mention air transport.


11 Thousands of Soldiers Fight Against Civilians in Eastern Ukraine

Today, Vesti published a statement by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu that at present, in the territory of Eastern Ukraine, more than ten thousand fully armed Ukrainian military have opposed civilians. In addition, approximately 160 tanks, more than two hundred infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, about 150 guns and mortars, not to mention air transport, were also involved in this operation.

According to the General of the Russian Army, the situation in the south-east of Ukraine is a matter of serious concern. For more than two days, the Ukrainian authorities have been active in the eastern part of Ukraine, as a result there are casualties.

According to Shoigu, against the civilians were made guards units, as well as battalions of extremist radicals "Right Sector". There is information that the formation of a new battalion "Donbass" has begun. Also, significant forces of special forces of the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as the Ministry of Internal Affairs, were sent to Donetsk and Lugansk to suppress the actions of the civilian population.

Thus, on the border with Russia, armed groups are currently operating to carry out sabotage activities. According to available information, tank and mechanized brigades transferred from the West of Ukraine participate in operations.

At the beginning of the military operation conducted by the current Kiev authorities in Slavyansk, at least five people died. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in the north-east of the city three checkpoints were destroyed. Meanwhile, the leadership of the national militia for their part said that one checkpoint was able to recapture thanks to the reinforcements that arrived in time. According to Ukrainian media, the attack on the city is suspended.
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  1. Validator
    Validator April 24 2014 21: 52
    +25
    Nothing, put a dozen - another black men, the rest will run away
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi April 24 2014 22: 13
      +18
      Slam the whole shobla while they are gathered together!
      1. mad
        mad April 24 2014 22: 29
        +23
        I don’t understand why the turntables are still flying, frightening the civilian population? Back in February, they wrote that the Maydauns robbing military warehouses cut several hundred MANPADS systems ... now these disgusting provocateurs have shot down all their own helicopters. And the operation can be called "open sky";)
        1. elmi
          elmi April 24 2014 22: 30
          +22
          Today, Vesti published a statement by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu that at present, in the territory of Eastern Ukraine, more than ten thousand fully armed Ukrainian military have opposed civilians. In addition, approximately 160 tanks, more than two hundred infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, about 150 guns and mortars, not to mention air transport, were also involved in this operation.

          They scrawled along the bows. It looks like the Ukrainian army is actually not very combat-efficient; today it’s been scored, and more than 11000 troops have been staffed. But the population of Ukraine is 45.000.000 people! it was necessary to bring it like this ... And after all, the Ukrainian economy is falling, prices are rising, salaries are being reduced, you can transfer for a long time, troubles are only increasing. It is easy to imagine that under their current government it will be a problem for two years and soon 11000 to dump everything on Russia trouble will not work, people are already slowly starting to understand who they brought to power. And if this continues, I won’t be surprised if the rest of Ukraine is added to the southeast to include them in Russia. It’s a pity when it comes to the western Maydan population and the impoverishment of the population of Ukraine. So the salvation of Ukraine is only one quickly ask for a part of Russia.
          1. Duke
            Duke April 24 2014 22: 39
            0
            Quote: elmi
            . It seems that the Ukrainian army is actually not very combat-efficient; today, they have recruited and staffed more than 11000 troops.

            11000 of them are the National Guard, SBU, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          2. Egoza
            Egoza April 24 2014 22: 53
            +23
            Quote: elmi
            when will it reach the western maydanut population,

            I answer the question - NEVER !!! They were there to celebrate the birthday of the Galicia division for three days !!!! am About SS modestly omitted in the title! Only due to the fact that the Russian troops approached the border, Lviv residents are afraid to celebrate the anniversary of the SS "Galicia" because of the threat of provocations ... This date can be noted in another way - holding educational events, visiting veterans, praying for the soldiers who left for eternity, ”said Sekh.
            XXXX
            Well, I can’t but mention!
            The presidential candidate of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko in Lviv was awarded a metal shield to "fight against the enemies of Ukraine." This was reported by the polemic correspondent.

            In particular, the shield was handed over by the head of the PF "Slaves are not allowed to paradise" Ivan Sprinsky during Lyashko's yesterday's visit to Lviv. According to Sprinsky, there are several "idiots in the Verkhovna Rada who surrender Ukraine by their inaction."

            “Knowing about your active position, we want to give you a gift. This is a tool to work with them. I emphasize that when they surrender Ukraine with their stupid activities or inaction, I ask you to sincerely beat them on the ridge with this gift, ”he said, passing the shield to Lyashko.

            In turn, Lyashko thanked, noting that this weapon was useful to him: “Today in the parliament there are anti-Ukrainian forces - these are regionals and communists. Such a trophy in the Verkhovna Rada will come in handy to beat these commies. ”

            “Chechetova fucking when he raises his hand,” Lyashko emphasized. Lyashko was also presented with a certificate of participation in the Lviv public group “Slaves Are Not Allowed to Paradise”.

            As noted in the document, he gives permission to “bezmezhnu love to Nenka-Ukraine at be-yakіy pointi svіtu; tsiluvati Rіdnu land with leather listening obnoxious; filtruvati deputies "pidra..їv" and "knopkodiv"; davati kopnyak p_d back to the communists and separatists; tsilodobovo wear a pitchfork at all of the original locations; by the side of the road to Ukraine on the first-hand; buti vіdpovіdalnym politician іz almost honored humor. "
            1. Tersky
              Tersky April 24 2014 23: 21
              +16
              Quote: Egoza
              The presidential candidate of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko in Lviv was awarded a metal shield to "fight against the enemies of Ukraine." This was reported by the polemic correspondent.

              The all-Ukrainian action “Ukraine, blossom” was held in Kharkov, the organizers of which intend to show that the Ukrainians are united. wassat
              For this, the participants - girls, will weave a common wreath, which they will then pass on and. about. President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov. fool
              “In addition to the wreath that each participant will weave for herself, each will make a separate flower, from which we will create a common wreath and give it to the President,” said one of the organizers of the action, Natalia Nechiporenko, the website of the Kharkov City Council reports. negative
              It is also necessary to send the whole junta from Russia, and not only wreaths ...
            2. SHAKESPEARE
              SHAKESPEARE April 25 2014 00: 04
              +15
              The capacity and combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian army, if it can be called this is 6 thousand people, this was said recently by the retired army general. We see that the rest is created from Maidan self-defense, reservists and the right sector. There is no army spirit in the army, the soldiers are hungry, sick, cold and unhappy. Who goes to the side of the militia with weapons, who deserts, the soldiers are not fed for days, in parts the soldiers and reservists are rioting, there’s not going to be anything else from the army for another half a month, or they will go over to the side of Donbass militias or scatter in the worst case, shoot each other. It would be nice to arrange a Victory Day as it was held in 1945, to drive away the right-wingers and VU this Bandera essence as prisoners of war only now according to Khreshchatyk. I think that the Russian army with the support of the east and the discontented people of the current government will do in a week. And do not give a shit about these amerikosy fucking and rotting Europe full of homoderm.
            3. Simple
              Simple April 25 2014 01: 29
              +1
              Quote: Egoza
              The candidate for President of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko in Lviv was awarded a metal shield


              It would be better if Oleg Lyashko was smeared with garlic to expel the evil spirit.
              1. abdrah
                abdrah April 25 2014 03: 53
                +3
                Quote: Simple
                It would be better if Oleg Lyashko was smeared with garlic to expel the evil spirit.



                Well then, Ukraine should be chalked around the perimeter like Khoma Brut from Gogolevsky Viy, and not digging ditches .. That's the savings, you see, serious for Nenko looms.
            4. mamont5
              mamont5 April 25 2014 04: 30
              0
              Quote: Egoza
              The presidential candidate of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko in Lviv was awarded a metal shield to "fight against the enemies of Ukraine."


              Does it mean "with him or on him"? In vain. It would be better to have a stretcher right away - they are more convenient.
          3. sokrat7
            sokrat7 April 24 2014 23: 10
            +3
            How can it reach a population that has hated everything Russian since birth?
          4. jktu66
            jktu66 April 24 2014 23: 37
            +3
            It is not difficult to imagine that under their current regime, two years and soon
            Something I think the term for the Maydan in power goes for months, not for years
            1. Korablev
              Korablev April 25 2014 01: 21
              +1
              Time will tell...
          5. Foxmara
            Foxmara April 25 2014 05: 00
            +1
            it turns out we have our own maydaunas. I found a group of takub from my real friends here http://vk.com/pro_vlasti the guys there seriously discuss that the assault on the house of fighters in Dagestan is the same as the assault on Slavyansk and at the same time we are called zombies ...
          6. Oleg14774
            Oleg14774 April 25 2014 06: 10
            +1
            Quote: elmi
            staffed more than 11000 troops. But the population of Ukraine is 45.000.000 people!

            In order to erase Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and completely destroy Donetsk, Voroshilovgrad, this is more than enough!
          7. Denis
            Denis April 25 2014 07: 44
            +1
            Quote: elmi
            soon 11000 scrape together will be problematic
            And before that, the demobilization of conscripts was delayed. As a result, they received very disloyal soldiers and their parents waiting at home
        2. not main
          not main April 25 2014 00: 56
          -5
          Quote: mad
          I don’t understand why the turntables are still flying, frightening the civilian population? Back in February, they wrote that the Maydauns robbing military warehouses cut several hundred MANPADS systems ... now these disgusting provocateurs have shot down all their own helicopters. And the operation can be called "open sky";)

          And the people in the helicopters? After all, they carry out the order. And they don’t shoot at anyone!
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 April 25 2014 04: 27
          +2
          Quote: mad
          I don’t understand why turntables still fly, scaring civilians? Back in February, they wrote that maydauns robbing military depots cut several hundred MANPADS systems ..


          While they only scare, it makes no sense to plant them from heaven. Fighting is carried out, mainly pravoseki. To open fire for defeat is to provoke retaliatory fire of the army, which, most likely, the junta wants. The same applies to armored vehicles.
          And if mutual exchange of fire begins, then, most likely, the militia will not survive, the weapon is not that. So, so far there have been no concrete actions by the army.
          Now pull the clock, it works against the junta. They will soon have nothing to refuel with cars. And there are already problems with feeding all these assembled forces, since the soldiers at the captured checkpoints, first of all, scoop up the products.
        4. Biolant
          Biolant April 25 2014 19: 08
          +1
          Yes, for a long time it was time to beat off all the remaining aircraft from the maydauns. I do not believe that there are no MANPADS in Slavyansk.
      2. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 April 25 2014 06: 08
        +2
        Quote: kocclissi
        Slam the whole shobla while they are gathered together!

        The army under the constitution of Ukraine does not have the right to fight against the people. The government is not legitimate, those who follow their orders definitely become criminals (and they understand this). Therefore, you can wait or further when they get stronger and start bombing cities or destroy them immediately, since they are criminals by definition. There should not be pity, otherwise pity will result in the death of children, women, the elderly!
    2. ambiorix
      ambiorix April 24 2014 22: 14
      +18
      The junta will not evade the answer!

      TO THE Fighters of the "S" BRIGADE UNITS.

      In response to the terrorist attack on Slavyansk carried out by the junta and the militants, the command of the "S" brigade announces the mobilization of personnel and orders:

      from 00 h. 01 min. 25.04.14/XNUMX/XNUMX
      to proceed with the implementation of targeted actions on list 101 ("Neutralization")
      throughout Ukraine
      as part of the first stage of the anti-terrorist operation of the GRU Army of the Southeast.
    3. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 24 2014 22: 14
      +18
      Thus, armed groups are currently operating on the border with Russia, designed to conduct sabotage activities.
      It's time to take action, 11000 near the border is the same preparation for the invasion of Russia, where the UN is looking !?
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 April 24 2014 22: 22
        +11
        Quote: svetlomor
        It's time to take action, 11000 near the border is the same preparation for the invasion of Russia, where the UN is looking !?

        "Hostilities must be prevented at any cost," UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Mu, deputy official representative of the Secretary General, Farhan Haq, read out to reporters a statement.

        Thus, the Secretary General actually approved the introduction of a limited contingent of Russian peacekeepers into the conflict zone. After all, it definitely falls under the definition of "at any cost", doesn't it?

        Meanwhile, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted to abolish the "anti-terrorist" operation.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 24 2014 22: 56
          +18
          Quote: Rus2012
          Meanwhile, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted to abolish the "anti-terrorist" operation.

          So the military demanded a WRITTEN order! And who will assume such responsibility and sign the order? Facebook is much easier to command!
          1. jktu66
            jktu66 April 24 2014 23: 44
            +4
            Facebook is much easier to command!
            in the fb you can also win and southeast and russia! generalissimo Facebook wink
            1. Korablev
              Korablev April 25 2014 01: 22
              +3
              "generalissimo" face laughing
          2. Simple
            Simple April 25 2014 01: 15
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            And who is taking such responsibility



            Black Spot Black mark to John Silver

        2. Tersky
          Tersky April 24 2014 22: 57
          +10
          Quote: Rus2012
          Thus, the Secretary General actually approved the introduction of a limited contingent of Russian peacekeepers into the conflict zone. After all, it definitely falls under the definition of "at any cost", doesn't it?

          If you carefully read the news, and especially pay attention to this phrase
          So, on the border with Russia now there are armed groups designed to conduct diversionary activities.
          then you can very quickly understand that this is a fairly transparent hint that there are all prerequisites for the introduction of not only peacekeepers .... wink
          1. gigiperfetto
            gigiperfetto April 25 2014 01: 27
            +3
            My prediction: They will lure praisek people into the city, and then "Shadows disappear at noon"
            1. papas-57
              papas-57 April 25 2014 04: 48
              +2
              "My prediction: They will lure the right-wing people into the city, and then" The shadows disappear at noon. "This should not be allowed. A battle in the city means heavy losses among the civilian unarmed population and the destruction of the city.
      2. nalim
        nalim April 24 2014 22: 44
        +1
        looks in z.o.pu to USA
      3. Tersky
        Tersky April 24 2014 23: 11
        +8
        Quote: svetlomor
        It's time to take action, 11000 near the border is the same preparation for the invasion of Russia, where the UN is looking !?

        This is what you are talking about:Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu said that because of the situation in the south-east of Ukraine, exercises began, etc. No. ..not..?
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 April 25 2014 00: 45
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          This is what you are talking about:

          So after that, the pravoseki and slowed down! Yes, and captured such trophies - EAT !!! They immediately became not before the war! lol
    4. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR April 24 2014 22: 36
      +12
      All the same, the example of Saakashvili turned out to be instructive, as soon as Shoigu announced the exercises, the banderlogs immediately gave the back ..
      1. nalim
        nalim April 24 2014 22: 51
        +10
        bzdilovaty people ... if 5 armored personnel carriers cannot pass through the "bunch of rubber" .... and if they enter the city ... they will burn the fuck ...
      2. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p April 25 2014 02: 05
        +2
        There, some of the junties seemed to promise to arrange a Russian bathhouse if we sent troops to Ukraine. As I understand it, this is a hint that we will sweat while we catch up with them?
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 25 2014 01: 15
      +2
      How all is tired! It's time to protect ours.
    6. radar1967
      radar1967 April 25 2014 04: 27
      +1
      Anwar said: Before the introduction, it is necessary to provide all the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with leaflets giving them the right to freely switch to the Russian side.
    7. Blondy
      Blondy April 25 2014 06: 59
      0
      The people, and after all in the Crimea remains dohren unexported Ukrainian weapons. Why are Donetsk worse than Kiev?
  2. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 24 2014 21: 53
    +6
    Oh, already 11 thousand targets scored ...
    Scrap metal, also pulled your own ...
    1. from punk
      from punk April 24 2014 22: 38
      +5
      Quote: Smiles at you
      Oh, already 11 thousand targets scored ...
      Scrap metal, also pulled your own ...

      what I liked is that shoigu knows everything up to every unit of weapons and not only among Ukrainians. he also read out the amount of weapons from the militias
      1. nalim
        nalim April 24 2014 22: 58
        +4
        we, too, were not "finger" made ...
      2. sokrat7
        sokrat7 April 24 2014 23: 14
        +4
        Shoigu Respect!
    2. nalim
      nalim April 24 2014 22: 54
      +2
      they will burn like candles in the cities of the Southeast
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 25 2014 00: 58
        +19
        Quote: nalim
        they will burn like candles in the cities of the Southeast

        What the hell are you talking about? Don't you understand that armored vehicles are serious (with poorly armed, poorly prepared Anti-Tank Defense, very, very serious)? To successfully counteract armored vehicles, a competently organized anti-tank defense is needed: prepare firing positions for grenade launchers, for example. For this, it is necessary to temporarily "requisition" the residents' apartments, to do a certain "anti-repair" there - I strongly doubt that the residents would agree (and agree) to this .At the points of anti-tank defense, there will be fire action from the attacking side (artillery, ATGMs, RPGs, helicopters) - there will be destruction. What to do with the civilian population? the population supports the "federalists" more "in words"; we must not forget that the Western category of values: "my life, my material welfare is the most important for me." has long been instilled in our countries.
  3. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 24 2014 21: 53
    +22
    Well, what kind of creatures ... How can troops be sent against their people ...
    1. Petr1
      Petr1 April 24 2014 21: 59
      +23
      Quote: Roman1970
      Well, what kind of creatures ... How can troops be sent against their people ...

      These creatures were raised for 23 years, they are not from their people, they are strangers!
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    3. 225chay
      225chay April 24 2014 22: 11
      +14
      Quote: Roman1970
      Well, what kind of creatures ... How can troops be sent against their people ...


      93 years have been taken from our Beni Eltsin
      1. family tree
        family tree April 24 2014 23: 00
        +4
        Quote: 225chay
        93 years have been taken from our Beni Eltsin

        what No, it’s not rolling. In Donbass, they didn’t steal people, they didn’t rob trains, they didn’t cut the Ukrainians, they didn’t steal money using false advice notes, so by.
        1. mpa945
          mpa945 April 24 2014 23: 40
          +2
          No, it’s not rolling. In Donbass, they didn’t steal people, they didn’t rob trains, they didn’t cut the Ukrainians, they didn’t steal money using false advice notes, so by.

          Uh-huh, all this was done by the "defenders of the white house"
          1. michurinec
            michurinec April 25 2014 01: 28
            +3
            Only then the United States was on the side of Yeltsin. That says it all. Very democratically, he shot the white house.
          2. family tree
            family tree April 25 2014 07: 36
            +1
            Quote: mpa945
            Uh-huh, all this was done by the "defenders of the white house"

            Again, not rolling, we are talking about the region, but at the expense of the "white house", please, Kiev sample 2014. How many countries would there be in Russia now?
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  5. Comintern
    Comintern April 24 2014 21: 54
    +2
    Not enough atomic weapons from a donut
  6. repytw
    repytw April 24 2014 21: 55
    +19
    Do not worry, everything is planned and everything is under control as in the Crimea!
    And so I advised Lugansk, while Donetsk is holding back the junta, to break a corridor across the border, at least for a week, would have gone and help and weapons and Cossacks.
    1. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 10
      +5
      and how Lugansk heeded your advice?
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist April 24 2014 22: 11
      +4
      Quote: repytw
      everything is planned and everything is under control


      Not only we plan and not only we control. The Ukrainian authorities, as I understand it, are generally only capable of hysteria, and we are pushing with the amers. And what’s the scenario for anyone - xs.
      1. nalim
        nalim April 24 2014 23: 07
        0
        Yes, everything is already clear ... the Americans are already killing ours ....
      2. alexander 2
        alexander 2 April 25 2014 02: 17
        +1
        Ah, when will we start hustling with amers on their territory.
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      1. MG42
        MG42 April 24 2014 22: 19
        +19
        Is it snow still lying on the video or something is wrong with the dates. Now often change the date so that there are more views on YouTube. request
        1. ya.seliwerstov2013
          ya.seliwerstov2013 April 24 2014 22: 39
          +16
          Guilty hurried and bought on a date. repeat
      2. nicollider
        nicollider April 24 2014 22: 34
        +1
        Well this is still winter shooting ....
        1. Victor-M
          Victor-M April 24 2014 22: 39
          +5
          It will do for the west, but they have the opposite, white-black. laughing
          1. ya.seliwerstov2013
            ya.seliwerstov2013 April 24 2014 22: 56
            +3
            We misinform the enemy, so to speak. I didn’t know about the fact that they change the dates on YouTube for garlic. And of course with snow, the jamb .. what
        2. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. April 24 2014 22: 39
          +3
          It was snowing today.
          1. nicollider
            nicollider April 24 2014 23: 01
            +1
            did the equipment go? ;)
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      4. fif21
        fif21 April 24 2014 23: 41
        .
        Stop bullshit! You show a provocateur in winter.
        1. ya.seliwerstov2013
          ya.seliwerstov2013 April 25 2014 01: 01
          +15
          Are you Alexander a normal person? In your mind? What a provocateur? From the comments you can see that the person was simply mistaken. And the person apologized, admitted that he was wrong. And people understood this!THANK YOU! Do you want cheap PR? Do you like it when they all tear it all together in pieces?BEFORE RESPECTED FORUMAN I WILL APPLY AN APPLICATION ONCE AGAIN. ERROR FORGIVING ME. THANKS TO ALL WHO UNDERSTAND THIS !!
          1. Bugor
            Bugor April 25 2014 02: 27
            +5
            Well done man. Honestly done. He blurted out without thinking, then found the courage to apologize. I respect you. Not everyone could do that.
            Chess-layer, without banter. good
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    4. officer29
      officer29 April 24 2014 22: 53
      +14
      Quote: repytw
      punch a corridor across the border

      Why punch it? On the border of the Rostov and Lugansk regions there is a unique place - Chertkovo-Melovoe! In fact, one city! It is IMPOSSIBLE to block the border there, since there are several streets where one side is Russian and the other Ukrainian! Until recently, there was free movement between the two cities. Here it is - HUMANITARIAN corridor! Must use it!
    5. nalim
      nalim April 24 2014 23: 03
      +1
      What are you worried about? Yes, they have arrived ... shitty warriors ....
  7. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 24 2014 21: 55
    +13
    The fascist junta decided to take the quantity, but the quality is not. The moral superiority of self-defense units that protect their homes, their families, and there is no such force in the world that could defeat them.
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 24 2014 21: 59
      +11
      For whom the truth is stronger!
      1. Korablev
        Korablev April 25 2014 01: 28
        0
        Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
        For whom the truth is stronger!

        And what is the truth, ya.seliwerstov2013?
        1. ya.seliwerstov2013
          ya.seliwerstov2013 April 25 2014 01: 59
          +4
          The truth is, it was not then that our grandfathers fought, that fascism would rule now. The truth is that the people living in Ukraine are primarily Russian people in the broad sense of the word and they are being killed. Those who are not Russian in spirit are killed worldview and morality. And those (more young guys) who had a spiritual void in their souls and filled it with Nazi ideology. Well, if their heart is able to accept this, then for me they are the same Nazis as ideological. And normal people should live normally, so that they would not be killed, robbed, or oppressed. Do you have a right to life? So why shouldn't others have it?
    2. lonshakovpetr
      lonshakovpetr April 24 2014 22: 46
      +5
      We are few, but we are in vests angry
  8. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 24 2014 21: 57
    +3
    Colleagues. I’m here not far from the Black Sea base of Novorossiysk. And part of Desatnikov. Now it’s dark and overhead I flew some kind of plane I don’t know for sure, but it was a big propeller plane. Perhaps a cargo. The drone from it is so long and strong.
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 24 2014 21: 59
      -2
      It happens! What did you smoke? .... Stop it ...
      1. Deadmen
        Deadmen April 24 2014 22: 02
        +4
        I do not drink and do not smoke
        1. nicollider
          nicollider April 24 2014 22: 11
          0
          right, all the tobacco in Russia belongs to the Americans
          1. Deadmen
            Deadmen April 24 2014 22: 11
            0
            what is prima? and MarkA?
          2. jktu66
            jktu66 April 24 2014 23: 52
            0
            right, all the tobacco in Russia belongs to the Americans
            That's right, he once earned money in Morris, mad money earned on simple-smoking rooms.
          3. urganov
            urganov April 25 2014 02: 36
            +1
            Quote: nicollider
            all tobacco in Russia belongs to the Americans

            In addition to "Donskoy Tabak", In the past, DGTF (Don State Tobacco Factory) Belongs to the correct Greek, who does not fall under any British tabbaco and stuff on principle. And his tobacco contains less chemistry than all other manufacturers. Well, not counting the St. Petersburg Belomor, but this is a separate conversation.
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 24 2014 22: 15
          +8
          Well, if the propeller and cargo, and the sound "so long and strong", it is similar to the An-22.
          1. jjj
            jjj April 24 2014 22: 24
            0
            Yes, and An-26 fly noise enough
        3. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR April 24 2014 22: 50
          -5
          and with mushrooms like ???
        4. jktu66
          jktu66 April 24 2014 23: 50
          +1
          I do not drink and do not smoke
          oh well done !!
    2. Valter1364
      Valter1364 April 24 2014 22: 15
      +5
      Why Novorossiysk with a small letter? I am from Novorossiysk, and there’s simply nothing to do here for planes. There is no airdrome in Novorossiysk. The nearest military in Krymsk, and this is 100 km. from here. Don't smoke anything for sure?
      1. Deadmen
        Deadmen April 24 2014 22: 30
        +6
        I don’t smoke anything. And what does the airfield have to do if it could fly by. And with a small letter, this is the Internet when you type a lot and you can make a mistake and don’t be human robots.
        Countryman))
        1. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR April 24 2014 22: 52
          .
          And do not smell glue ??? lol
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 April 25 2014 00: 55
          +1
          If you are hinting that our landing has not gone to Ukraine, then in vain: the quick reaction forces will go from the other side, this is either Pskov or Tula, a start from Kubinka is possible. And on foot - they won’t go through Novorossiysk! wink
      2. msv
        msv April 24 2014 22: 55
        +4
        "... The closest military man is in Krymsk, and this is 100 km ..."

        Well, either in Anapa, or in Gelendzhik
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 25 2014 03: 09
          +4
          Enough to give out military secrets! What if the men from the CIA don’t know! And you are like bad boys.
          1. Deadmen
            Deadmen April 25 2014 06: 55
            0
            what if I throw misinformation)
  9. Naval
    Naval April 24 2014 21: 57
    +5
    The head of the military department said that from today on, military exercises of battalion tactical groups of combined arms units of the Southern and Western military districts began in the areas bordering Ukraine.
    Our answer to banderlogs, prepare diapers!
  10. Rblipetsk
    Rblipetsk April 24 2014 21: 57
    +24
    hold on guys
  11. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 24 2014 21: 58
    +5
    I think 11000 military -Shoygu bent! Rather, 11000 military rabble from the maydanut! There would be warriors, have long been sitting on barricades with the people!
    1. tchack
      tchack April 24 2014 22: 03
      +5
      Out of 11 thousand, 6-7 thousand will simply not go to war against the people ...
      Surrounding-environment, mobilization-mobilization, but to fight against the people-is it good enough to take leave ...
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 24 2014 22: 04
      +24
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      I think 11000 military - Shoigu bent! Rather 11000 armed rabble

      Do not underestimate the enemy. And there they are not armed with toy pistols with pistons. stop
      I remember already one warrior who was going to take Grozny with one parachute landing regiment. fool
      Everything must be prepared.
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi April 24 2014 22: 19
        0
        Quote: Little Muck
        Everything must be prepared.

        It's like a fly hunt, with a clapperboard (rubber shovel), lure, wait and one clap ..... and a bunch of corpses!
  12. fedor13
    fedor13 April 24 2014 21: 58
    +13
    GUARDS unit of the Right Sector, not just cutting the ear, but nauseating.
  13. sop.ov
    sop.ov April 24 2014 21: 58
    +36
    Do not expel citizens! If they continue to fight like that, then fight high. Borsch at all!
    Sincerely, resident of the heroic city of Slavyansk! hi
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 April 24 2014 22: 03
      +8
      Oleg hi


      Tell me please:

      Ukrainian military departed from the checkpoint at the Feed mill near Slavyansk, after checking all suspicious persons and the plant. They also took away the products they found on the barricades., and opened the safe. After that, they left in the direction of the village of Khrestische, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the scene.


      What really came for food?
      1. sop.ov
        sop.ov April 24 2014 23: 08
        +10
        That h.ih s! It seems that they were going right with serious intentions - to deprive citizens of Slavyansk of citizenship. But it turned out - hunger is not aunt.
        Respectfully the resident of the heroic city of Slavyansk! hi
        1. Cappit
          Cappit April 25 2014 01: 48
          +3
          "You need to feed a soldier without a gun. A soldier with a gun will feed himself" - Cain XVIII
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      2. Irbis5974
        Irbis5974 April 24 2014 23: 26
        +8
        The food was stolen ... A safe was hacked ... Chargers for mobile phones were poked ... Do they have gopniks with bear cubs working there? Or is ukroarmiya moving to self-sufficiency?
        1. zaboyschik
          zaboyschik April 24 2014 23: 45
          +1
          Adopt the tactics of Wallenstein.
        2. fif21
          fif21 April 24 2014 23: 47
          +3
          Quote: Irbis5974
          Or is ukroarmiya moving to self-sufficiency?
          It’s their custom laughing What they will not see, everyone is stealing!
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. jktu66
          jktu66 April 24 2014 23: 57
          +5
          Or is ukroarmiya moving to self-sufficiency?
          Dali machine, and then spin as you can smile
        5. Korablev
          Korablev April 25 2014 01: 32
          +1
          The Director of the CIA suggested this to them, such a tactic.
    2. DNR
      DNR April 24 2014 22: 25
      +4
      People only feel sorry for them, because you will not return them.
      Therefore, it is necessary to end with this abomination.
  14. hrych
    hrych April 24 2014 22: 01
    +57
    Good picture
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 25 2014 07: 56
      +3
      I don’t know how anyone, but I, however, very much liked this picture.
  15. denchik1977
    denchik1977 April 24 2014 22: 02
    +9
    Using the army against its own civilian population is a crime that cannot be justified and has no statute of limitations. The current "junta" in Kiev, striving to solve its momentary and selfish tasks, crossed the line beyond which the process of sliding the country into the crucible of a civil fratricidal war begins ...
  16. fedor13
    fedor13 April 24 2014 22: 05
    +8
    Quote: gfs84
    Oleg hi


    Tell me please:

    Ukrainian military departed from the checkpoint at the Feed mill near Slavyansk, after checking all suspicious persons and the plant. They also took away the products they found on the barricades., and opened the safe. After that, they left in the direction of the village of Khrestische, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the scene.


    What really came for food?

    They also said on the radio that the phone charges were taken away. They work under the homeless people.
    1. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 13
      +5
      Well, given the supply of the Ukrainian army. here, as it were, they didn’t go on looting houses nearby
      1. 333doctor
        333doctor April 25 2014 09: 24
        0
        The uterus of the Trigger, it’s milky, dafai eggs ... Somewhere already passed it !!!
        Imagine, they banned me on the Censor!
    2. sop.ov
      sop.ov April 24 2014 23: 11
      +4
      It seems to me that the "polite people" had a certain effect on them - they did not beat anyone. Well, they came and left ... It's 3 km to the city, maybe you are tired?
  17. boozer
    boozer April 24 2014 22: 07
    +10
    This is actually a war! With all the ensuing consequences. God Sees Not We Unleashed It All! We must give an adequate answer to the fascist junta! Like in 1941 - not one step back!
  18. Horly
    Horly April 24 2014 22: 09
    0
    I think that after a couple of flights of the SU-34 from this 11-thousandth group, there will be only a pile of scrap metal and a huge amount of organic fertilizers ...
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 24 2014 22: 23
      +24
      Quote: Horly
      I think that after a couple of flights of the SU-34 from this 11-thousandth group, there will be only a pile of scrap metal and a huge amount of organic fertilizers ...

      What kind of hatred? Do you even know a little what army is?
      Are they there that in your opinion, from the "Children's World" armed?
      Not so simple.
      I agree with our army not to compare, but still.
      Think what you write, "computer warrior".
      1. fif21
        fif21 April 24 2014 23: 52
        +2
        Quote: Little Muck
        Think what you write, "computer warrior".
        I agree with you, human blood, this is not some water. People are really dying. hi
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    2. jjj
      jjj April 24 2014 22: 25
      +3
      New technology will have to be tested for real combat effectiveness.
      1. alexander 2
        alexander 2 April 25 2014 02: 36
        +1
        But better somewhere in Texas, and not in Ukraine.
  19. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z April 24 2014 22: 13
    +10
    The people of Southeast Ukraine, hold on!
    Repetition of the situation or "Georgia-2"! Almost the same scenario! There they went against the people and here they go!
    Not The Hague, NURNBERG cries for such rulers!
    1. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst April 24 2014 23: 06
      +13
      I think The Hague and Nuremberg will not help here, but the Rostov garrison military court is just that. Western servants of Themis have long served green money and you should not expect objectivity from them.
    2. Committee
      Committee April 24 2014 23: 26
      +4
      Quote: Starover_Z
      NURNBERG cries for such rulers
      which The Hague, which Nuremberg, do you, colleague, really give this punks such a status? Enough and anonymous graves, at best with an inventory number.
  20. Signaller
    Signaller April 24 2014 22: 13
    +17
    I think the guys should not flatter themselves. Even a monkey with a gun is a big problem. And here there are many more. Do not throw their hats over. We must approach this matter seriously, which Shoigu does by the way. Let's wait and see.
  21. vfck
    vfck April 24 2014 22: 13
    +4
    This illegitimate "power" has already got it, normal people are not allowed to live, work, raise children, when they will be overthrown by the fascist thugs that have not been finished off.
  22. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol April 24 2014 22: 15
    +5
    The West in the 1933 year nurtured the state German National Fascism, and plunged the World into War.
    Now again the same West, revived and brought to 2014 the year State Ukrainian National Fascism and again plunges into the war!
    Then the World paid over 50 million lives ... How much do these creatures need now?
  23. Akulina
    Akulina April 24 2014 22: 19
    +4
    But I’m scared - I don’t want any war. stop
    1. Committee
      Committee April 24 2014 23: 29
      +3
      Quote: Akulina
      I do not want war
      do not be afraid, there will be no "war", but this thug will have to crush.
  24. Alekseev
    Alekseev April 24 2014 22: 19
    +9
    No matter how the situation develops, it is not necessary for us to allow the introduction of the "infantry" into the Donbass, and even more so into Kharkov.
    Here are the attacks by high-precision weapons (Iskander, Tochka-U, aviation, etc.) on the assemblies of banderlozha troops, the creation of a no-fly zone (modern air defense systems can take control of the entire Donbass from the territory of the Russian Federation) and the immediate formation of the Donbass defense army of thousands of 20 bayonets with MANPADS and ATGMs.
    This will be enough to drive the junta out and create a stable federal state (or states) in the place of the current misunderstanding in which the people will live normally.
    And then look, boldly go to the BTR-80, go on an assault! But BTR is a lightweight BTT, a tin, a very effective PTS against this technique - DShKM or NSV, not to mention the KPVT (or PTR of the Second World War), and do not go for RPGs. yes That is, the banderlogs know that there are no PTAs for the defenders of Slavyansk, there are no MANPADS, there are no DShKs, there are not enough snipers, so they behave so impudently ...
    And, apparently, the Banderlozh leaders are also afraid of such a scenario - they quickly reeled up fishing rods from Slavyansk, having heard about the advance of the Russian troops.
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 24 2014 22: 51
      +2
      I completely agree with Alekseev. am
    2. Committee
      Committee April 24 2014 23: 30
      +2
      Quote: Alekseev
      creation of a no-fly zone
      you need to start with this.
  25. DMB87
    DMB87 April 24 2014 22: 22
    +14
    Actually, the statement of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation:

    1. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 32
      +2
      oh Shoigu Hp Elitebook
  26. mokr77
    mokr77 April 24 2014 22: 29
    +1
    THERE ARE BARRANS ON THE SAME PEOPLE 11 THOUSAND FOUNDS
  27. armageddon
    armageddon April 24 2014 22: 31
    0
    Quote: gfs84
    Oleg hi love comes and goes and you always want to eat !!!


    Tell me please:

    Ukrainian military departed from the checkpoint at the Feed mill near Slavyansk, after checking all suspicious persons and the plant. They also took away the products they found on the barricades., and opened the safe. After that, they left in the direction of the village of Khrestische, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the scene.


    What really came for food?
    1. sop.ov
      sop.ov April 24 2014 23: 14
      +8
      In the end, this turned out to be the only achievement.

      Sincerely, resident of the heroic city of Slavyansk! hi
      1. Simple
        Simple April 24 2014 23: 40
        +4
        Quote: sop.ov
        In the end, this turned out to be the only achievement.

        Sincerely, resident of the heroic city of Slavyansk! hi



        I compared a little something:

        13-32, The checkpoint has been repulsed and controlled by militia forces. Reinforcements from neighboring cities arrived in Slavyansk

        14-43, Novoshakhtinsk, Rostov Region - 10 km from the Ukrainian border. Armored vehicles moving to the border with Ukraine.

        http://www.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/shturm-slavjanska-post-obnovljaetsja.h


        tml

        Most likely, Amer’s reconnaissance through a satellite was spotted. IMHO

        With respect to the resident of the heroic city of Slavyansk! hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 25 2014 00: 26
          +6
          Quote: Simple

          Most likely, Amer’s reconnaissance through a satellite was spotted. IMHO

          Most likely, American intelligence watched videos on YouTube fresh laughing
          1. Simple
            Simple April 25 2014 00: 41
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Most likely, American intelligence watched videos on YouTube fresh


            From an online portal controlled by the British.
            Evaluate how much progress has taken. laughing

            Although the technology still needs time to get to the place of filming.
            And before turning the ignition key, some time is needed.
            1. Simple
              Simple April 25 2014 01: 33
              +1
              And on the other hand, if the guys had posted the video twenty minutes earlier, then some would have been left without food.
              yes
  28. Turkir
    Turkir April 24 2014 22: 31
    +11
    The saddest thing is that the backbone of the so-called Ukrainian army are Russians.
    Do they understand who they serve?
    Circumstances, families, salaries, oaths ...
    All this does not justify FELLOWSHIP.
    AND NEVER JUSTIFIED.
    After the victory of the junta, the FELLOWSEMBERS will go to EXPENDITURE, simply because that they are russian.
    Russian in the Ukrainian army, but if your junta LOSES?
    WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU?
    Have you thought about it?
  29. boozer
    boozer April 24 2014 22: 32
    +10
    Quote: Akulina
    But I’m scared - I don’t want any war. stop

    Our great-grandfathers were dying, grandfathers. For us to live and not piss!
  30. nicollider
    nicollider April 24 2014 22: 32
    +1
    160 tanks, 200 BMPs are VERY many. in the tank battalion -31 a tank, given that the weakly armed militias are opposing, there would be enough pairs of tanks (figuratively burping out).
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 April 25 2014 01: 07
      +2
      Pairs of tanks - for open space. The militia has both RPGs and mines, in a street battle the tank is useless or insanely deadly - if it starts firing into anything! But even with this life, he’s about 5 minutes. So 160 tanks in 2 rather big areas, plus a bunch of district centers, villages, ravines with partisans, are few. With the degree of wear and tear that we are witnessing, combat effectiveness can be estimated at 40 percent. Although this is scary, people will not die for good.
      1. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p April 25 2014 02: 20
        +1
        Given that very competent guys command in Slavyansk - Afghans, commandos, and pravoseki kindly gave self-defense tandem shots to RPGs, tanks in the city will be very sad ...
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 25 2014 08: 39
          +2
          What kind of "anti-tank indifference"? Tanks are "tight" in the city if: 1. The Anti-Tank Defense has been prepared in advance, including in the fortification plan; 2. The defenders have a sufficient number of trained fighters with a sufficient number of mobile anti-tank weapons. , but not worth it: I doubt that the militias will "master" the first points. As a result of the attacker's response (guns, ATGMs, grenade launchers, helicopters), there will be large destruction of buildings - what to do with the civilian population? implementation of "anti-repair" in them - how many residents will voluntarily surrender their homes for the VET? Compare the population of the regions and the number of armed militias (according to Shoigu). It seems that there are much more "federalists in words". Such apartments will not yield "in an easy way". Do not forget that the effectiveness of anti-tank defense in the city decreases with a literate and widespread use infantry tank support units.
  31. santush
    santush April 24 2014 22: 33
    +3
    What are we waiting for? When will thousands die in the Southeast?
    1. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 56
      +5
      You can’t decide and do anything for people. if you want happiness - fight. only then will you appreciate what you have. If there is a struggle, there will be help.
  32. DNR
    DNR April 24 2014 22: 39
    +6
    Quote: Akulina
    But I’m scared - I don’t want any war. stop


    Everyone is scared. Therefore, they do not resist.
    Who can the Russian Army count on if it enters the SE?
    For a few thousand militias? Among the multimillion population. Support should be NATIONAL, only in this case there will be a positive result (as in Crimea).
    And nationwide support can appear only when everyone (both those who have a "hut on the edge" and "svidomye", and ordinary people, and supporters of Reunification, but fearful) will be driven to the extreme by the junta.
    And these are prices, unemployment, moral and physical pressure.
    This is what needs to be helped. Including sanctions. Why can they be applied to Russia, but Russia can not? Economic levers give no less effect than military-political ones. And who if not our leadership understands this?
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik April 24 2014 23: 58
      +11
      That's what verbiage, what kind of popular support? Here people, having worked a shift, go to checkpoints, enterprises are discounted on food for fighters, what support is still needed? In your opinion, we all need to go out to the square and stand, believe me, everyone would leave. Let Russia say tomorrow24, come out and we will see that we will send a lot of troops and everyone will leave. So what's the point? We support armed people, on the barricades there are exactly as many people as there are weapons, we did not see a cartridge from Russia. Sorry for the irregular handwriting, I chopped off the shift and sent me to the checkpoint.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 April 25 2014 01: 29
        +7
        Dear Slayer, and to whom, in this case, should Russia help? By the way, let's start with the fact that it DOESN’T SHOULD be her good will, although diplomats are already breaking through Ukrainian issues 25 hours a day!
        So, the requirements of most of the residents of the Southeast, judging by the info from the media, are ECONOMIC. Political is only the demand for a referendum - so it is voiced by an insignificant part of the protesters! Miners have practically no opinions on this matter - they only talk about raising earnings. So what's next? Meet for referendum supporters? Help miners achieve salary increase ?! From the point of view of international relations, force intervention FOR THESE reasons will be utter stupidity! So, our active actions are expected from you .. Most in Russia sympathize with you, but interference in another country is not a tavern showdown. And so, specifically, the teachings began to nip the tail of Kiev!
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 April 25 2014 01: 34
        +2
        By the way, the informal collection of funds, things, medicines seems to be organized. "Kind of like" - because there is no such point in my city yet. I saw an ad here, I'll try to find it. Only how will all this be delivered, hz. But there were telephones .. I'll find them - I'll throw them off with personal messages, although you may have seen.
        1. I THINK
          I THINK April 25 2014 08: 11
          0
          Infa was that humanitarian aid was not allowed at customs.
      3. I THINK
        I THINK April 25 2014 08: 08
        +3
        If there were reliable channels, then we would have helped with money. here in Russia, many would have thrown themselves off, just like that. I'm from a mining town.
  33. Berkut-UA
    Berkut-UA April 24 2014 22: 40
    +7
    Turchinov demanded to stop military exercises in Russia

    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1513331

    Alexander Turchinov, chairman of the Verkhovna Rada and acting president of Ukraine, called on the Russian Federation to withdraw troops from the border, Interfax reports.
    "We demand from the Russian Federation to stop interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine, to stop constant threats and blackmail and to withdraw its troops from the eastern border of our country," he said in his televised address Thursday evening.


    Class what they have already reached
    Some gan * he, who is not even recognized as a legitimate politician, DEMANDS from Russia and COMMANDS Shoigu what to do and how to act to the Russian troops IN HIS territory.

    I think how much he would have managed to live if he demanded that Saray Obambych stop training on the border with Canada, due to the difficult situation of ukrov in Canada ?????
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 April 25 2014 00: 12
      +2
      Some gan * he, who is not even recognized as a legitimate politician, DEMANDS from Russia and COMMANDS Shoigu what to do and how to act to the Russian troops IN HIS territory.
      It is visible to the naked eye, this person does not shine with the mind. Perhaps the owners because of a large puddle advised what to say
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 April 25 2014 01: 47
      +1
      Quite bizarre, stole .. Or went too far glue what Well, why was it so potent that it was necessary to aggravate, so that fear would be lost ?!
      ..Although .. Probably, he just felt creepy - as he imagined that all this mass of green "polite" rush to Kiev ..! So he blurted out with fright! wink
  34. fregina1
    fregina1 April 24 2014 22: 40
    +14
    Today we (the border of the Rostov and Donetsk regions) have traveled equipment so much I have never seen live! I was on the border on our side km. 20 in our direction silence and emptiness, and then continuous! I repeat here there were so MANY machines never! Hundreds of cars in the area!
  35. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 April 24 2014 22: 41
    +2
    Kiev has no opportunities for a quick operation, and there is no go-ahead to start firing at people from artillery. I think this whole situation will catch up - and against this background we will bargain with America
  36. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 24 2014 22: 43
    +20
    Yes, here at such moments the president cannot be envied. What a colossal responsibility lies on a person, thousands of lives and a page in world history depend on your willful decision.
    May God give him health, mental strength and fortitude!
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 24 2014 23: 12
      +7
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, raise the SU-34 from Baltimore, destroy the junta’s armored vehicles at Slavyansk. As the last Chinese !!! angry
      Stop being white and fluffy in the wild forest !!!
      To this day, a wild pain for Yugoslavia, the defeated Novorossia - normal Russian people will not forgive you, despite the Crimea.
      I think I'm not the only one who thinks like that.
  37. Navy7981
    Navy7981 April 24 2014 22: 43
    +7
    Wait a pancake. Really during this time the guys in the southeast could not organize? Well, what is it, why are the forces of good waiting for everything when pressed against an adult? I understand everything it’s difficult to keep large forces under arms without financial support and other supplies, but at the level of a trained militia every day, at least for a couple of hours of militia. But I hope we do not know much (like many) and they have an ace up their sleeve. GOD help them.
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik April 25 2014 00: 05
      +9
      Exactly, in Lugansk, two thousand people who signed up as fighters are sitting at home, you don’t understand what there, nobody helps us at all. No entrepreneurs, they are all for the junta that are small that are large, nor Russia is anyone. What do you think, how are they stupidly organized on their own salaries? I took two thousand with me to Lugansk, it was enough for four days, I had to buy food for everyone. I went to work further, I have two children, the father died i.e. if I don’t work, that is, they will have nothing in a week.
  38. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 24 2014 22: 45
    +8
    To understand what to do, you need to understand the root cause. And you can understand it if you look at the history of Russia over 500 years ago. The hatred of Russia from Europe and Turkey cannot be fixed. Although you build a paradise, they will scream with all in a crowd that you are a tyrant. The Golden Rule- If the relationship does not work out, limit it until you get it right, until the gap is complete. Who wants to, come and talk heart to heart. The doors are open. He doesn’t want to leave your house - drive with kicks.
    1. Deadmen
      Deadmen April 24 2014 22: 47
      +6
      Turkey will always love to look at us from under the lobes. Subsequently, in a dozen wars they were defeated.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 24 2014 22: 51
      +2
      Honestly, not only in the house, but in the house, let them not fit.
      Then, not to drive out of the house.
    3. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 55
      +7
      Yes, I support. Russia has always been demonized: a prison of peoples, an aggressor, and so on. It's a shame that not a gram matches. Sometimes I want Russia to justify some kind of suspicion :). Guilty without guilt :(.
  39. fedul
    fedul April 24 2014 22: 46
    +8
    a feeling that the time has come to give pravoseki .. editions !!!
    1. MG42
      MG42 April 24 2014 22: 50
      +9
      Quote: fedul
      it's time to give law-breakers .. editions !!!

      So they received in Kharkov, and crawled on their knees, but now they are officially armed by someone in the National Guard and punitive battalions, so here as in a war, the Lyuli is simply not enough.
      It's disgusting that there are 2 battalions with Khar. region formation of "Kharkiv" and "Slobozhanshchina"
  40. slava48
    slava48 April 24 2014 22: 50
    +5
    Nothing, put a dozen - another black men, the rest will run away
    I doubt it. Black men still feel themselves on horseback, but when a couple of turntables, armored personnel carriers, etc., fail. Then they will run headlong. But it will be possible if our troops come to tea, to visit the brothers. And they will make a kindred tour in the South East.
    I can’t understand one thing. Officers of the Ukrainian army, Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU do not understand what they are doing?
    National Guard and the right sector in the bill do not take with these clear.
  41. gammipapa
    gammipapa April 24 2014 22: 51
    +4
    What kind of people, what is the point of ruining your country, there are so many vivid examples in recent years, but no, everyone thinks that their rake will be special.
    1. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 22: 59
      +4
      they don’t ruin the country - they are killing money. stole, dump
  42. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 24 2014 22: 56
    +6
    Quote: Akulina
    I'm scared

    Yarosh counts on this and conducts and kills his demonstrative punitive raids and takes hostages for trade and fear, which would have been even worse and surrendered without resistance - and then, in fear, he will be forced to live his whole life in a Nazi concentration camp during the war. Yarosh said - Yarosh did and will do until he is stopped
  43. be0560
    be0560 April 24 2014 23: 03
    +4
    For each of these freaks, headed by an ardent Komsomol member Turchinov, there is a loop. Forgotten Nuremberg. Nothing. Jump for now ... The company on one bitch will be noble!
  44. VeteranS
    VeteranS April 24 2014 23: 05
    +8
    An information war is going on in the southeast of Ukraine, a psychological war has begun, but the worst thing is that a bloody war is not unleashed ... the United States and the Kiev junta are doing everything so that the war goes bloody to destroy civilians .... Only Russia with its historical truth and military might can stop the bloodshed ... God help us to win a bloodless victory over our enemies, the Kiev junta with its bandits and Bandera!
  45. armageddon
    armageddon April 24 2014 23: 13
    +3
    fascist reptile must be crushed in the bud so as not to produce banderyat
  46. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 24 2014 23: 18
    +6
    Maybe I will express an idea that many will not like, but unfortunately ...
    After the ephoria, which came after the Crimea, we expected the junta to shout overnight, but after loud statements and the seizure of buildings in the regions with the advancement of demands, further the case of overthrowing the illegal power of the fascists / nationalists stalled, the forces of nationalists seized the airfield, now 11000 are captured by the army of nationalists checkpoints, one was immediately beaten back and finally the 11000 army's offensive stopped. What I mean, when describing such "military" actions, bloody battles should be everywhere, but they are not - and thank God! frankly, the Ukrainian army has been waiting for a long time who will give orders, and the orders of Kiev frankly ignored, and no other orders were received, and against the background of all the events I had a thought, and maybe few people want to go under Russia's wing in Ukraine?
    I do not want blood, but it seems to me that the picture should be a little different.
    Dissuade me please.
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik April 25 2014 00: 10
      +5
      And one more sofa, we put under arms exactly as many people as there are weapons and how many can be kept. But I didn’t understand your logic, why did you get the thought, and maybe "few people want it under the wing of Russia in Ukraine?" How does this follow from the army's refusal to follow orders?
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 April 25 2014 02: 13
        +3
        Slayer, nothing personal. It's simple: you are holding a referendum, and you can judge by the results WHAT the South-East really wants. In the meantime, we can talk about the following options:
        1. More independence for the region - so that money remains here.
        2. The status of the subject of the federation for the region within Ukraine - so that both money and politicians are elected.
        3. The creation of the republic is already complete political and economic independence, respectively, with the nationalization of all resources.
        4. The creation of the republic with the entry into Russia as a federal subject
        5. "Schaub salary is twice pidnyaly - oce bude garneau!"
        ... etc.
        Each option has a right to exist. But it’s not yet determined what the people of the Southeast want all the same, and there’s no reason to expect global action from Russia.
        Quote: zaboyschik
        we put under arms exactly as many people as weapons
        - This is just quite understandable. But people with weapons are not the government, not the President, not the commander of the entire South and East! President of Russia - Legal Entity! Who will he communicate with ?! The mayor of Slavyansk appealed - they heard him! But he is speaking on behalf of the small city of the Other Sovereign State! And what do we do? Do not give a damn about all the rules? Then, it will definitely be possible to ignore us.
  47. Simple
    Simple April 24 2014 23: 18
    +1
    .......
    In parallel with the preparation of new sanctions, Brussels is also checking the possibility of sending an EU mission to Ukraine as part of a common foreign and security policy. Since the beginning of this week, for the second time in several weeks, a group has been sent to Ukraine to investigate whether the EU mission makes sense, and if so, in which areas.

    One of the possibilities would be the use of armed soldiers, for example, ensuring border security, as well as advice and assistance in the formation of the rule of law. First of all, the UK, Poland and Sweden insist on an EU mission.


    Next week, a special meeting of the EU foreign ministers for Ukraine is possible, at which further sanctions will be adopted.

    http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article127278659/Der-Westen-will-die-naechste

    -Sanktionsstufe-zuenden.html

    http://business-panorama.de/news.php?newsid=225247
  48. dik-fort
    dik-fort April 24 2014 23: 18
    +1
    Quote: 225chay
    Quote: Roman1970
    Well, what kind of creatures ... How can troops be sent against their people ...


    93 years have been taken from our Beni Eltsin


    Some figures compare the CTO in Chechnya and the junta's attempt to carry out a similar one in Donnbas, but the comparison is incorrect. Firstly, in the Russian Federation the decision-making power was legitimate, but in Kiev it was not. This means that the troops of the junta act on the orders of the self-appointed "supreme commanders" and power ministers, ie all actions involving the use of weapons are illegal. Secondly, according to the Ukrainian Constitution, the use of the Armed Forces against the people is prohibited, only in an emergency. Thirdly, since there is no legitimate government in the state of Ukraine and there are armed bands of Nazis, the people in the regions have the right to take power and weapons into their own hands and defend themselves from the invasion of the junta's bandit formations.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 25 2014 05: 51
      0
      So he shot the White House when Rudskoy was there with like-minded people and asked the aviation to help, I suppose it was against, but I think many were against it, Muscovites clapped their hands, and he should have been judged for it, he also turned the army against the people ghoul, God forgive me ...
      1. I THINK
        I THINK April 25 2014 08: 21
        0
        In 93, after the shooting of the White House, I had an idea to write "Yeltsin is a murderer!" In big letters on the square, so I regret not doing it ..
  49. yacht
    yacht April 24 2014 23: 22
    +5
    That’s all, keyboard fighters went on the attack ... dreamily moving tanks, planes and other military equipment that they managed to read about on the Internet ... No matter how weak the Ukrainian army is, troop deployment is a war, and a war is 200- e, the 300s and other delights of military operations, therefore resorting to military operations is necessary in the most extreme case, when there is simply no other way. And you also need to remember that real fighters will die in the war, not their keyboard parodies.
  50. Palych9999
    Palych9999 April 24 2014 23: 27
    0
    Here's how to look, against the "illegitimate Kiev authorities" and against its "atrocities" - on the most independent one is really actively protesting in one regional center (like ours ... Serpukhov, 100-200 active people and 2-3 thousand sympathizers) and several hundreds more in 3-4 cities, such as our Penza and Tambov, and even then a contingent from socially insignificant layers.
    Yes, on May Day and Victory Day many will go who remember and sincerely nostalgia for the USSR, honor the Great Victory.
    Yes.
    But ...
    All sorts of tymoshenko and poroshenko go to these "angry" rebellious regions and gather full houses!
    Something is wrong...
    Where are thousands of actively dissatisfied people, where are bus lines from the regions to Kiev, where are there mass "strikes" at the largest industrial enterprises?! ??
    Where are the thousands of miners blocking railways across the country (or at least in the southeast)?
    The tone of our commentators does not correspond to what is happening at all: all stations, all airports, all factories, all state enterprises work, the hryvnia is holding on to the salary, they are paying salaries, students are studying, schoolchildren are not far behind them, bloated and hungry army men sit in miraculously soaring Sushki and BMPs and Lieutenants Schmidtov are not visible among them.
    So, 98% of the population are happy with everything?
    Yes! IM in absolute majority, all give a damn, it means that they are simply not worthy of another life and dozens of their lives are not even worth a slight wound of a Russian soldier, God forbid, directed them "to salvation"!
    Ukraine is a territory populated by a historically insignificant population (by no means the People) deserves just such a fate and does not deserve a different life.
    Those 3-4 thousand who really got so sick of everything, just need to drop everything (a garden with watermelons) and go, who are more ambitious - to the West, who are more industrious and not so gifted - to us, to Russia - we need the Far East to raise, and to revive the empty middle strip, welcome.
    And whining at fate and whining like "send your soldiers to die here with us while we peel the seeds and look at the window" - this is not discontent and not intolerance towards the current authorities, this whine is not worthy of attention.
    Russian Crimea is 98% in favor of reunification with the MOTHERLAND, everything is justified there, but not these "revolutionaries" who quietly think to get on the neck of those where the pension is 3 times more.
    And FOR THIS WONDERFUL PEOPLE and patrons I'm sorry, not like my guys.
    Every nation deserves its government, so we have nothing to worry about.

    I think so
    1. Kristoff
      Kristoff April 25 2014 00: 00
      +3
      I am ready to support almost everything that has been said by this comrade, even if there are cons from the forum participants. I really look and get the impression that not everything is so terrible for them, Ukrainians, in their country. If during the events in the Crimea I really communicated through social networks with people, ordinary residents, and everyone told me that they were waiting for a referendum, waiting for accession as one of the main events in life, then this is not noticeable in the Southeast. Apparently they still managed to clear the brains of the population.
      1. zaboyschik
        zaboyschik April 25 2014 00: 24
        +5
        And how should you notice it? We have here, sorry tanks drive under the windows, something I don’t remember in the Crimea.
    2. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik April 25 2014 00: 23
      +7
      Read my comments above, you are so easily talking about the Crimea, but there were then Russian troops, and therefore it is not necessary to rush words here. You do not understand the situation from your sofa at all, we have a thousand kilometers of border with the Dnipropetrovsk Zaporizhzhya and Kharkiv oblasts more loyal to the junta, leaders of large and hundreds of small paths, all of which have three thousand trunks that were obtained by the blood of civilians. Against us, not the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not the army, but punitive detachments that do not hesitate to shoot unarmed, they just do not care who is in front of them. That is why, based on reality, such tactics were adopted at 3 March meetings, only those who have experience and who have enough weapons are active. That is why there are few victims whom you so want.
      1. sniper
        sniper April 25 2014 02: 11
        +1
        Quote: zaboyschik
        therefore there are few victims whom you so want.
        Nobody wants victims, calm down, brother. Just introducing troops is not a very simple decision and I’m not sure what is right .... My soul hurts you and it’s scary that I can’t help you ... I think that I’m not the only one on the forum. Well, do not be offended by harsh statements, these are people in their youth, for them the whole world is black and white ...
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 April 25 2014 02: 36
        0
        Quote: zaboyschik
        That is why there are few victims whom you so want.

        We don’t want sacrifices !!! Why are you behaving like an offended child ?! "Why, you don't understand us!" And who said it would be easy ?! The more expensive the Victory will be, if you YOURSELF ACHIEVE IT! Not donated by someone - but YOURS! Only this is really appreciated. And we DO NOT WANT victims - just as we do not want our guys, soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces, to die and get wounded, "bringing liberation to the fraternal people." If this is so - I think they won't stand up for us, and even without an army - a lot of volunteers want to rush to you. But will you show us the real will of people ?! Look above my comments - there is enough detail. And .. I sincerely wish you to stay safe and sound! Children in years ... you will tell how it was yes
    3. avia1991
      avia1991 April 25 2014 02: 24
      +3
      I would not express myself so categorically. Yes, there are not many who want to reunite. But our politicians are not enthusiastic about the idea of ​​joining the Southeast as well! Help - yes. And you will need to help! Because this help is not only to the fraternal people - but also to ourselves. Are you, brother rabbits, dreaming of having a Bandera pro-NATO country near by ?! Do not hesitate to calculate how many people can die in a couple of years only in the border zone, due to attacks by these brainless people? What can such a neighbor cost us economically and militarily? I'm not saying that the Nazis will unleash a war anyway - they have it in their blood! - but if they have time to prepare for this (and the Pi.ndos will do everything to help them!), then the war will be much worse and more painful! Fascism must be crushed in the bud!
    4. tantalum
      tantalum April 25 2014 06: 18
      0
      Quote: Palych9999
      Here's how to look, against the "illegitimate Kiev authorities" and against its "atrocities" - on the most independent one is really actively protesting in one regional center (like ours ... Serpukhov, 100-200 active people and 2-3 thousand sympathizers) and several hundreds more in 3-4 cities, such as our Penza and Tambov, and even then a contingent from socially insignificant layers.
      Yes, on May Day and Victory Day many will go who remember and sincerely nostalgia for the USSR, honor the Great Victory.
      Yes.
      But ...
      All sorts of tymoshenko and poroshenko go to these "angry" rebellious regions and gather full houses!
      Something is wrong...
      Where are thousands of actively dissatisfied people, where are bus lines from the regions to Kiev, where are there mass "strikes" at the largest industrial enterprises?! ??
      Where are the thousands of miners blocking railways across the country (or at least in the southeast)?
      The tone of our commentators does not correspond to what is happening at all: all stations, all airports, all factories, all state enterprises work, the hryvnia is holding on to the salary, they are paying salaries, students are studying, schoolchildren are not far behind them, bloated and hungry army men sit in miraculously soaring Sushki and BMPs and Lieutenants Schmidtov are not visible among them.
      So, 98% of the population are happy with everything?
      Yes! IM in absolute majority, all give a damn, it means that they are simply not worthy of another life and dozens of their lives are not even worth a slight wound of a Russian soldier, God forbid, directed them "to salvation"!
      Ukraine is a territory populated by a historically insignificant population (by no means the People) deserves just such a fate and does not deserve a different life.
      Those 3-4 thousand who really got so sick of everything, just need to drop everything (a garden with watermelons) and go, who are more ambitious - to the West, who are more industrious and not so gifted - to us, to Russia - we need the Far East to raise, and to revive the empty middle strip, welcome.
      And whining at fate and whining like "send your soldiers to die here with us while we peel the seeds and look at the window" - this is not discontent and not intolerance towards the current authorities, this whine is not worthy of attention.
      Russian Crimea is 98% in favor of reunification with the MOTHERLAND, everything is justified there, but not these "revolutionaries" who quietly think to get on the neck of those where the pension is 3 times more.
      And FOR THIS WONDERFUL PEOPLE and patrons I'm sorry, not like my guys.
      Every nation deserves its government, so we have nothing to worry about.

      I think so