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Foreign experts on the new Russian strategy

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More than a month ago, a referendum was held, according to the results of which the Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation. During this time, a huge number of various statements were made concerning the legality of the referendum and its results. However, official Moscow and the newly affiliated regions of the federation are not going to give up their decisions. This serves as an additional reason for new unfriendly statements and actions, although the results of this whole situation are already clear. Meanwhile, domestic and foreign experts are engaged in analyzing the events of recent months. Foreign experts have to admit that the actions of Russia in the current situation were literate, original and unexpected.

The opinion of several foreign experts is quoted by the New York Times publication in its publication Russia Displays a New Military Progress in Ukraine’s East (“In Eastern Ukraine, Russia showed a new military prowess”). An analysis of recent events shows that the Russian armed forces have mastered the “tactics of the 21st century”. Due to this, they managed to seize the initiative from Western countries and implement their plans. It is noted that Russia actively used well-trained special operations forces, an energetic information campaign and some methods of the so-called. cyberwar The result of all this is what we see now.

The New York Times cites the words of the retired Admiral of the US Navy, James J. Stavridis, who has held high positions in NATO for several years. He notes that the current situation clearly demonstrates a shift in how Russian troops approach their tasks. The admiral is forced to admit that the Russian military "played gracefully this game."

The skills and tactics demonstrated by Russia may be interesting not only in the context of the Ukrainian crisis. Such things can be viewed from the point of view of the security of a number of countries that emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union, as well as some NATO participants from Central Europe.

American journalists note how much the working methods of the Russian troops have changed. In 2000, the armed forces fought with the separatists for the capital of the Chechen Republic, the city of Grozny. In this battle, various artillery and shock were actively used. aviation. During those battles, civilians were severely affected, and a large part of the infrastructure was destroyed. Recent events in Crimea are completely different from the operations of the beginning of the last decade.

Jamestown Foundation senior fellow Roger McDermott believes that Russia has used the time that has elapsed since then with maximum benefit. In order to strengthen its positions in nearby regions, official Moscow began modernizing the armed forces, creating new weapons and equipment, as well as developing new strategies. Great priority in this matter was given to the rapid reaction forces - special forces, airborne troops and marines. This system, created in recent years, has been tested in the Crimea.

At the same time, McDermott noted that the Crimean events cannot show the real state of the Russian armed forces. The successful result of the work of special units in the Crimea is due not only to good preparation of the troops themselves, but also to a number of other factors. These are secret operations, intelligence, as well as the weakness of the current Kiev leadership and the poor state of the Ukrainian armed forces. All this contributed to the success of all operations. However, the results of actions in the Crimea, according to McDermott, cannot be considered an indicator of the state of all Russian armed forces. The bulk of Russian military personnel are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.

Stephen J. Blank, a former expert of the United States Army War College on the Russian armed forces and an employee of the American Foreign Policy Council, thinks that recent events well show the evolution of the Russian army and Russian military science. In recent years, Russian military leaders were engaged in the development of the army, and the results of this were shown in the Crimea.

The New York Times cites the words of the commander of the Joint NATO Forces in Europe, General Philip M. Bridlav, on the sequence of actions taken by the Russian military. Under the cover of exercises at the western borders of the country, the military prepared and arrived in Crimea. Well-trained fighters without any identification marks quickly occupied all the important objects. For example, in the early stages of the operation, the units engaged in communication channels of the Ukrainian armed forces and quickly cut off the Crimean units from command.

After gaining control over the Crimea, Moscow launched a campaign aimed at informational support for its actions. Despite the protests of foreign countries, Russia continued to promote its ideas: the Russian population of Crimea needs protection. The result of all actions was a referendum and the emergence of two new subjects in the Russian Federation.

Further actions of Russia led to the fact that foreign countries actually recognized the accession of the Crimea and Sevastopol: in a joint statement on the results of the recent negotiations in Geneva, this topic is not mentioned. The biggest problem for Kiev and its Western allies are now events in the eastern regions of Ukraine.

While politicians are trying to solve topical issues and promote their point of view, experts are analyzing the events of recent weeks. The publication of the New York Times notes that the strategy used in the Crimea can be used in other regions. According to the former NATO chief adviser Chris Donnelly, any country in the post-Soviet space, where there is a large number of the Russian population, can become a platform for using this strategy. This part of the population can provide support to the military with corresponding consequences for countries.

Donnelly called Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova and the states of Central Asia the most prone to such actions. The Baltic countries are less at risk from this point of view, although they may be under pressure.

Admiral J. Stavridis agrees with C. Donnelly that the new Russian strategy will be effective in the case of countries with a large number of sympathetic citizens. For this reason, the NATO leadership should carefully study the latest Russian actions and draw the appropriate conclusions.


Russia Displays a New Military Prowess in Ukraine's East:
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  1. rugor
    rugor April 25 2014 08: 11
    +24
    For this reason, the NATO leadership should carefully study the latest Russian actions and draw appropriate conclusions.


    Well, or shoot everyone together from anger, it is also possible.
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr April 25 2014 10: 17
      +9
      here it is, pin-up dos propaganda, such as “Russian aggressors are coming, and how they will act in the post-Soviet territories”. like contact us, we will help, well, and accordingly create a situation in which those interested should be careful and take the side of pin.dos.tana
    2. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs April 25 2014 13: 05
      +4
      You can still jump out of the window.
    3. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 4 May 2014 00: 23
      0
      Donnelly named Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova and the states of Central Asia the most susceptible countries to such actions. Baltic countries ... as well as Alaska, California, Poland, Yugoslavia and of course Honduras.
      Do not despair, we are already going to you !!!
  2. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 April 25 2014 08: 14
    +12
    Far from them to such an elegant, perfect technique of performing combat missions! They can only hide somewhere and stick out the barrel from the bushes. Yes, at the turntables to bomb everything! Warriors are bad!
    1. Corporal
      Corporal April 25 2014 09: 45
      +14
      There is one point that they completely miss. Russians and Ukrainians are fraternal peoples, therefore, for no particular reason, no one is ready to shoot at each other. It would hardly have turned out so gracefully, had the territory and population of Turkey or Germany been there. Nevertheless, 2014 is our year.

      "We are Russians, what a delight!"
  3. demidoff-59
    demidoff-59 April 25 2014 08: 20
    +8
    Experts divorced, mother do not worry !!! Yes, for every tricky fifth point, there is a device with a left-hand thread !!! Go for it, experts!
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 25 2014 12: 47
      +7
      The bulk of the Russian military are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.


      This, comrades Americans, looking for what a war! If you wet the natives in the colonies from far away, then yes, here you are ahead of the rest, and if you are to protect the Fatherland and its interests, then excuse me, our conscripts will be at war’s head, especially for motivation !!! Your European partners have checked this over the centuries, because now it’s not a particularly torn battle !!! We do not advise you to check, otherwise God forbid you will see another flag on the white house! hi
    2. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick April 26 2014 05: 37
      +3
      demidoff-59 - With your permission I will add
  4. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 25 2014 08: 30
    +15
    Donnelly wrote nonsense. Kudon found a large Russian population in the Transcaucasus or Wed. Of Asia? Even in Kazakhstan, it has solidly decreased. It is in this matter that I see only the moment of psychological warfare.
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 25 2014 08: 55
      +20
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Donnelly wrote nonsense. Kudon found a large Russian population in the Transcaucasus or Wed. Of Asia? Even in Kazakhstan, it has solidly decreased. It is in this matter that I see only the moment of psychological warfare.

      Donnelly wrote "a large number of sympathetic citizens"! Lately, I have often talked with guest workers at work, in particular from Uzbekistan, of course we are discussing Crimea - ALL priesthood agree to be "recouped"! Because we have had our fill of independence!
      If you want to join Uzbekistan, we don’t even need soldiers, we’ll easily recruit an army of Uzbeks who will gladly go home with weapons, since they have accumulated questions about their power ....
      Another question: does this need Russia NOW?
    2. edeligor
      edeligor April 25 2014 09: 04
      +4
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Kudon found a large Russian population in the Transcaucasus or Wed. Of Asia?

      This is part of the information war, that is, the intimidation of everyone and the whole new Russian threat. And all these analyzes and articles are only confirmation that nothing has changed since Bismarck. The Anglo-Saxon empire does not want to lose power over the world.
    3. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul April 25 2014 09: 39
      +1
      Kudon found a large Russian population in the Transcaucasus or Wed. Of Asia?
      I agree with you, we can only assume that for the American military all the peoples of the republics of the USSR are Russians. I can assume that you, now living in the territory of another state, are Russian for Donnel! yes
    4. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul April 25 2014 09: 39
      0
      Kudon found a large Russian population in the Transcaucasus or Wed. Of Asia?
      I agree with you, we can only assume that for the American military all the peoples of the republics of the USSR are Russians. I can assume that you, now living in the territory of another state, are Russian for Donnel! yes
    5. Lelek
      Lelek April 25 2014 13: 26
      +4
      It’s just that this Mr. Donnelly is committing political grooming (looking for fleas where they are not). bully
  5. Denis
    Denis April 25 2014 08: 49
    +9
    Foreign experts are forced to admit that Russia's actions in this situation were literate, original and unexpected
    з
    That means they could do something better, this p-brother will not just praise like that.
    any country in the post-Soviet space where there is a large number of Russian population. This part of the population can provide support to the military with corresponding consequences for countries.
    Donnelly named Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova and the states of Central Asia the most susceptible countries to such actions. The Baltic countries from this point of view are less at risk, although they may be pressured
    It is evident that these mrs do not like that, together with the ebn, his course towards the surrender of everything and everyone is dead, they really want to return to him. But ... to them!
    What a big problem for Kiev and its western allies are now events in the eastern regions of Ukraine
    Yes, such friends highlighted in the corresponding color and to the museum
    about what and illustration
  6. Grbear
    Grbear April 25 2014 08: 49
    +11
    The bulk of the Russian military are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.

    Ladies and gentlemen, the nuclear weapons will most likely be talking to you (if necessary), but our conscripts are not a gift and they stopped Hitler near Moscow.
    Learn History and scratch "turnips". what
    1. edeligor
      edeligor April 25 2014 09: 11
      +4
      Quote: GrBear
      our draftees

      I agree with you. There is no better fighter, I was convinced of this more than once. A contract, professionals are good for conducting pinpoint operations in peacetime, for conducting large-scale hostilities, unfortunately, neither we nor our "partners" will have enough. I would not like to develop the topic of mercenarism, but this is also an important factor in favor of recruiting by conscription.
      1. Sergey7311
        Sergey7311 April 26 2014 09: 02
        +1
        The mobilization reserve is made up of former recruits. This is a huge advantage of the army for conscription in case of external threats. Which are relevant for Russia at all times. Therefore, our state will never refuse conscripts ...
        1. srub40
          srub40 April 26 2014 11: 56
          +1
          Oh well ... and isn't it possible to form a mobile reserve from former contractors? He served under the contract for 3 years and in reserve.
          If you teach history: then Russia did not always have a draft army. From 1700-1860 there was a recruitment set. And even I will tell you a huge secret in the USSR too. For example, the Law on General Military Duty was introduced only in 1939. And before that, from 1922-1939 they somehow managed ??? Yes, and vrazhin was an order of magnitude more! Yes, they recognized it as a state at the beginning of 30gg, and before that it was considered illegitimate.
          More secrets: even during the Soviet era of 1970-1980 50-60% of the total number of military men were called up. Now 20%, and who are these 20%? Yes, those who do not have the means or tricks otmazatsya ...
    2. srub40
      srub40 April 25 2014 12: 48
      +1
      1) nuclear weapons a slippery thing can give by the bulldozer themselves. If you study history: then in WWII the sides had a significant amount of chemical weapons, but were never used in large quantities, even despite the fact that Hitler was considered a maniac. I heard somewhere or rather I read that the Angles, having learned in 44, that the Germans wanted to use chemistry, made a statement on the radio that the next night all of Germany would be shrouded in yellow fog, probably sobered up.
      2) Draftees are also dangerous people, unless of course you learn materiel, and not rummaging through potato fields. Israel is an example. If you study history: then near Moscow, it was not the conscripts who stopped the Wehrmacht. The entire draft burned out in Belarus, near Smolensk and Kiev, with the exception of the draftee who were in D. Vostok.
  7. region46
    region46 April 25 2014 08: 56
    +4
    We have breakfast in Kharkov, have lunch in Kiev, have dinner in Lviv. - Modern realities
    1. cumastra1
      cumastra1 April 25 2014 17: 10
      +1
      Breakfast - eat it yourself, lunch - share with a friend, dinner - give it to the enemy. Why do we need a lion? Let Bandera cut themselves with the Poles there and who else are there - Romanians or what?
  8. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 25 2014 09: 02
    +1
    The so-called "western experts" have a mind to compare tactics in the Caucasus and in the Crimea! Conclusions from the assessment of the specificity of the territories themselves are not destiny, strategists, mln ...
  9. crambol
    crambol April 25 2014 09: 10
    +4
    Quote: region46
    We have breakfast in Kharkov, have lunch in Kiev, have dinner in Lviv. - Modern realities


    We have breakfast in Moscow, have lunch in Lisbon, have dinner in Florida! - Modern realities
    1. Arlette
      Arlette April 26 2014 00: 30
      0
      Oh you goy-you, good fellow! Don't joke with such jokes. And then the Americans will be completely sad.))) I watched an excerpt from an American radio program on YouTube. So there one of the presenters complained that Russia "is already climbing into our hemisphere." I meant a multibillion-dollar contract with Venezuela on the supply of modern weapons there. The host was very upset. I would have cried with him if I hadn't laughed at this time.)))
  10. dimitris
    dimitris April 25 2014 09: 15
    0
    Properly alarmed and interested. Soon we will get to you ...
  11. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 25 2014 09: 28
    +1
    ... the Russian military "gracefully played this game."

    And not only this one. We are always like that.
    ... any country in the post-Soviet space, where there is a large number of Russian population, can become a platform for using such a strategy.

    Why not. We just don’t need to upset us, otherwise we can be offended.
  12. Good cat
    Good cat April 25 2014 09: 34
    +3
    I absolutely disagree with Stavrid regarding the confrontation between mercenaries and conscripts. It has already been repeatedly proved that mercenaries are effective in police and special operations. In a full-blown war, their effectiveness falls — dead money is useless.
  13. sergant89
    sergant89 April 25 2014 09: 38
    +2
    Wait and be afraid, polite people are somewhere nearby.
  14. sergant89
    sergant89 April 25 2014 09: 41
    +3
    A little more about polite people.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 April 25 2014 11: 37
      +6
      A little more about polite people.
      In the same series! laughing
    2. Petergut
      Petergut April 25 2014 11: 37
      +12

      Russian occupier aims at a Ukrainian child from a captured cat. laughing
  15. Velesovich
    Velesovich April 25 2014 09: 44
    +4
    Further actions of Russia led to the fact that foreign states actually recognized the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol: in a joint statement on the results of recent negotiations in Geneva, this topic is not mentioned.

    This moment has eluded many, but it is fundamentally important. Abkhazia and South Ossetia still remain independent at least de jure, and here we managed to force the west to recognize the direct accession of the territory of a state friendly to the west. This is a momentous moment that shows the relative weakness of the west. This means that it is possible to create conditions in which at least Europe recognizes the return of other territories. The only question is what are the conditions? They distracted attention from the South-East, and how to distract from the South-East?
    1. sled beach
      sled beach April 25 2014 21: 54
      0
      A super modern Russian atomic submarine in the neutral waters of the Atlantic has lost a super modern intercontinental nuclear missile, let them search.
  16. voveim
    voveim April 25 2014 09: 56
    +4
    But why do we need Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan today as part of Russia, not to mention Moldova? Or do we not know that at least half of Georgians, one-third of Azeris, and no matter how much three-quarters of Armenians have long been draped from their historical homelands from rampant poverty, and not just anywhere, namely to Russia? Another thing is that it is beneficial for Russia to have sane people in power with whom you can at least just negotiate (and not fit-out psychopaths, like SS-koshvili).
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 25 2014 13: 20
      +4
      Only in St. Petersburg for permanent residence 50000 khachiks. fool
      1. omsbon
        omsbon April 25 2014 14: 53
        +2
        Quote: Lelek
        Only in St. Petersburg for permanent residence 50000 khachiks.


        Do not talk about a sore subject. How tired these h and r are in their hometown, and the worst thing is that they climb with our medieval customs, cave, bazaar worldview into our lives.
  17. wiktoor
    wiktoor April 25 2014 10: 16
    +2
    By the right of the owner came and took the Crimea.
    All of Russia and Crimea were waiting for this and hoped one could say they dreamed.
    All Russian history is one dream of the Slavic Orthodox world.
    Greece, Bulgaria, Ukraine where they are now yes some are almost all in NATO (Georgia is a separate song).
    Thinking about others is a good spiritual quality, but it seems to me to think about YOURS is more correct (MALOROSSIA).
  18. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 April 25 2014 10: 57
    +2
    A powerful element of offensive tactics has arisen - these are patriotic public organizations well-equipped with officers and former military personnel who have combat experience (those who received weapons in Crimea).
    It should be borne in mind that many of them are "restless" and have a bad attitude towards the "irreconcilable".
  19. Cynic
    Cynic April 25 2014 11: 13
    +1
    Quote: Ryabov Kirill
    Therefore, the NATO leadership should carefully study the latest Russian actions and draw appropriate conclusions.

    Where will they now find countries with so many NATO sympathizers?
    In words, his own, it is possible, but in fact?
  20. lukke
    lukke April 25 2014 11: 42
    +4
    According to McDermott, it cannot be considered an indicator of the state of all Russian armed forces. The bulk of the Russian military are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.
    Well, "minus" you McDermott, because you, as befits an arrogant snob - a lazy person - did not even bother to briefly familiarize yourself with the history of the exploits of a Russian soldier, both individually and as part of a combat unit. I will not give examples - it will take a lot of time. And in terms of equipment, yes, so far not in large quantities in all troops, but this is fixable and I am sure to decide in the near future. But the fact that the Pskov company of paratroopers (the bulk of the conscripts) did not have super-duper elbow pads, knee pads and other accessories - they did not cease to be who they became! Eternal memory to the Heroes!
  21. Nikich
    Nikich April 25 2014 11: 54
    +2
    Quote: lukke
    According to McDermott, it cannot be considered an indicator of the state of all Russian armed forces. The bulk of the Russian military are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.
    Well, "minus" you McDermott, because you, as befits an arrogant snob - a lazy person - did not even bother to briefly familiarize yourself with the history of the exploits of a Russian soldier, both individually and as part of a combat unit. I will not give examples - it will take a lot of time. And in terms of equipment, yes, so far not in large quantities in all troops, but this is fixable and I am sure to decide in the near future. But the fact that the Pskov company of paratroopers (the bulk of the conscripts) did not have super-duper elbow pads, knee pads and other accessories - they did not cease to be who they became! Eternal memory to the Heroes!

    All international competitions and marathons are won by our paratroopers. Amerikosy die on the first kilometer without a shower and Coca-Cola.
  22. pechv
    pechv April 25 2014 12: 01
    +2
    A little to the side, but I liked the pearl about the quality of the American army, which the Russian can not compete with. Compares two entities that have different purposes.
    Just yesterday, the news story amused how the Americans, upon their arrival in Poland for the exercises, leave Hercules in formation. A spectacle like on "Zarnitsa", only red ties and pioneer greetings were missing. And the car with the leader did not leave in front of the column from the womb of the transporter.
    What kind of clowning is not used to instill confidence in the Poles.
    1. k_ply
      k_ply April 25 2014 18: 08
      +1
      Quote: pechv
      ... amused by the news story as the Americans, upon their arrival in Poland for the exercises, leave Hercules in formation. A spectacle like on "Zarnitsa", only red ties and pioneer greetings were missing. And the car with the leader did not leave in front of the column from the womb of the transporter.
      What kind of clowning is not used to instill confidence in the Poles.

      Nonsense! I saw the video, but I saw Poles trying to march (including 6 people at the exit from S-130), the Americans from the 173rd brigade were sedate, did not bother to keep up even in the final of the plot.
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  23. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov April 25 2014 12: 09
    +2
    Quote: Nikich
    According to McDermott, it cannot be considered an indicator of the state of all Russian armed forces. The bulk of the Russian military are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training.

    )))) and especially they will not be able to compete with the spirit and courage of US soldiers, a vivid example of which are those 27 from the destroyer Donald Cook !!!
  24. pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB April 25 2014 12: 49
    +1
    "The bulk of Russian servicemen are conscripts, and therefore the expert believes that they cannot compete with the American army with modern equipment and good training." - Is this white thing too full ???? our guys will give these diapers with AI a head start !!! !! ugh .... cocky ass McDermott
  25. sledge
    sledge April 25 2014 14: 07
    0
    Come on ***, the green men will come to them and will be extremely polite laughing
  26. tchoni
    tchoni April 25 2014 14: 20
    +1
    I’m reading an article and I understand that Genossa Marx was right! Oh, right. If it is beneficial for them, in the words of Russia and racism they will find common roots, just as they will find evidence that A. Hitler initially gathered Jews at the end of the camp with the aim of forming military units from them to liberate the promised land and only then .... in consequence of an absurd accident ..... well, and so on.
  27. Turkir
    Turkir April 25 2014 14: 35
    0
    Donnelly named Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova and the states of Central Asia the most susceptible countries to such actions.

    Thank you, we understood which countries the USA is going to work with. Get ready.
    Well, the chatterbox, this Donelly, not without reason the Italian, probably from the Romans.
    Maybe from the mafia. Probably.
  28. sv68
    sv68 April 25 2014 14: 40
    0
    even falling into q - my states will shout that Russia pushed them there and that the American q is my best in the world
  29. ankir13
    ankir13 April 25 2014 15: 33
    0
    Churchill's plan "Unthinkable", from 1945. Everything continues, only now, instead of strike groups and nuclear weapons, demographic weapons are used
    Set and conquer, and rule! Nothing has gone anywhere. Everything goes on.
  30. ankir13
    ankir13 April 25 2014 15: 39
    0
    Although this is exactly what Churchill cost the prime minister's chair in his time. Roosevelt respected the Russians and from the "tsar" Georgian!
    1. sled beach
      sled beach April 25 2014 22: 09
      0
      Do not rot on Stalin! His nationality is Soviet man. The USSR is not Russia! And if Russia manages to reach the level of the USSR, it will rule the world.
  31. ankir13
    ankir13 April 25 2014 15: 43
    0
    Their "king"
  32. k_ply
    k_ply April 25 2014 17: 28
    +1
    Well uh! now that the New York Times is an authoritative military-analytical publication !? with a couple of public comments, NOT an expert assessment of military officers, but of senior staff rats, NATO functionaries and politicians in stripes (the rest are not even military), called military experts, who manage to compliment the Russian military and are unforgettable to intimidate the countries of the former Union with the threat of Russian occupation.
    Even a schoolchild knows that Russian servicemen (including the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation) were introduced to protect the Russian-speaking population of Crimea and were in public places, which are usually a concentration / gathering place for all kinds of mass demonstrations and riots, and not because they were of strategic importance for occupation operations. The referendum decided everything. Naturally, Russian units have taken measures to ensure their own security, as Ukrainian Armed Forces were incapable of fulfilling the tasks of maintaining public order, but could only harm and cause bloodshed due to the inadequacy of the central Ukrainian government and the possible orders emanating from it, which is still observed.
    Why be carried on such so-called nonsense? "experts"?
  33. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 April 25 2014 17: 28
    0
    The bear slowly climbed the mountain, looked, and slowly sauntered to where the flock of sprawled vultures was trying to tear apart, it was so sweet to the heart.
  34. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 April 25 2014 17: 30
    0
    The bear slowly climbed the mountain, looked and slowly wandered over to where a flock of sprawled vultures is trying to tear apart what is so sweet to the heart.
  35. Azaat
    Azaat April 25 2014 18: 06
    0
    I didn’t like their "polite people" in Slavyansk, when they put a man on the asphalt on a crumpled "five".
  36. Nirag013
    Nirag013 April 25 2014 18: 34
    0
    Quote: wiktoor
    Thinking about others is a good spiritual quality, but it seems to me to think about YOURS is more correct (MALOROSSIA).

    A note on the conduct of the meeting is not MALOROSSIA, but NEW RUSSIA (if you mean the southeastern regions of Ukraine).
  37. Arkan
    Arkan April 25 2014 20: 37
    0
    A much bigger problem for Kiev and its western allies is now the events in the eastern regions of Ukraine.


    Kiem, to himself, created ALL the existing problems. Nezalezhniki, stood in front of the geyropa, in the 6th position and I think that they will do something for them. There are no reusable condoms.
  38. Singularist
    Singularist April 25 2014 20: 49
    0
    Let them fear and wait in the wings, and we will help our Slavic brothers.
  39. BARBED
    BARBED April 25 2014 22: 47
    +1
    Quote: edeligor
    Quote: GrBear
    our draftees

    I agree with you. There is no better fighter, I was convinced of this more than once. A contract, professionals are good for conducting pinpoint operations in peacetime, for conducting large-scale hostilities, unfortunately, neither we nor our "partners" will have enough. I would not like to develop the topic of mercenarism, but this is also an important factor in favor of recruiting by conscription.

    Hello! Without details, in 20 .. after the next reform of the transition to conscripts, after Daryal, I selected a group of 12 conscripts + 2 contract soldiers. He went to the mountainous area for "autonomous". It so happened that the release time was instead of 24 - 168 days. The heights of responsibility: from 2 m to 500 m. All supplies were delivered by a turntable.
    Conscripts are those guys who performed tasks with reasonable initiative and ingenuity.
    Those. - there was no better group.
    Double bass is harder.
  40. k_ply
    k_ply April 26 2014 12: 04
    +1
    I agree that the conscripts are distinguished by their diligence, which is why we need a unified system of completing and conditions of service. A powerful thing are these stereotypes, and especially in the minds of the soldiers themselves (if you put a layer of "fellowship" on top of the "bullying" and spice it up with "mercenaries", a nightmare and a mess will come out).
    A voluntary army means precisely an influx of people in the convictions (not to be confused with the foreign legion of France, where the multinational contingent serves, or they are fearless adventurers from Europe and North America, including those subject to restrictions for one reason or another for service in the national armed forces, or emigrants from the poor countries of the World), service in the voluntary army can not be called making money, the only incentive is to get free higher education.
    The service in the draft army can be called just forced (free work), where the conditions for conscripts and junior contract soldiers are different.
    The principle of picking should be the same, since service implies teamwork, not rivalry and contradictions within it.

    Speaking of total or large-scale war in modern conditions mean war with the use of nuclear weapons, no less. But even without nuclear weapons it is worth recalling that the era of frontal wars and multimillion-strong armies passed when even the deliveries of the main types of weapons and military equipment, tanks and combat aircraft were estimated in thousands and tens of thousands of units, while the volume of modern deliveries is estimated in several tens and hundreds of units independently from that voluntary is the army, or draft. So the defeat (loss) in the battle (operation) of only one combined arms division (about 15 thousand people and 200-300 MBT) will be a disaster on a national scale. While the armed forces of the aviation component (Air Force), or the capture and holding of an air superiority by the enemy, will mean defeat for ground forces, regardless of their strength (for example, modern cluster munitions, aviation and rocket artillery can reduce numerical superiority to nothing).
    Any country needs living people, not human casualties and losses. What is the superiority of the draft army over the voluntary? - unclear!

    * By the way, unlike the US Army and Marine Corps undergoing compulsory combined-arms training and selection, with the personnel of the crews of surface ships and submarines of the Navy, similar selection and training is not carried out, so essentially the civilian technical personnel are serving yesterday schoolchildren, especially since approximately 15% of them are women.
  41. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 27 2014 09: 57
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    On YouTube, I saw a program called "What death to an American, then a Russian standard", and maybe not death, it does not matter. The plot is about a long march on foot, our landing troop went through it all, without leaving the distance. Only my legs were knocked down. But the Americans crawled longer, all or not is not clear. But the conversation of their warriors, like why should I go, they will bring me and I will fight, with references that there are many helicopters and cars in America. hi
  42. k_ply
    k_ply April 27 2014 13: 22
    +1
    So my legs were knocked down, but what if tomorrow to fight? Remembering our urgent, it was difficult to force us, even after 1-1,5 years of service, to go out for morning exercises, and even more so to run crosses and marches, only on a hard "flight", the same with our "grandfathers".
    Our native domestic mentality is supposed to do everything, "break into a cake," so as not to "lose face" in front of foreigners. Here with the Americans and their mentality is a completely different matter, they do not care about the Russians, Poles, Germans, Dutch, French and anyone else there. It is difficult to motivate their soldier to overstrain, for example, in the fourth or fifth year of service (after the first 3 years of service, soldiers usually extend the term) and who has served in the first years in the light infantry *, where he is always fiddling with equipment, who has earned the AIRBORNE or / and RANGER stripes after passing appropriate courses, and also impress some foreigners, so they think they allow themselves to give in like a gentleman. The same story with the French legionnaires, they never strained themselves on unfamiliar terrain outside their training grounds and simulators, they were always thorough and not in a hurry, certainly in no hurry to die at the end of the journey.
    The Russian soldier of the peasant and working class is patient by birth - there are no jokes here.

    * Soldiers of relatively young age usually serve in light infantry units; when renewing a contract, servicemen usually change two or more duty stations, in different formations (divisions) and units.
  43. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 8 May 2014 10: 19
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    actions countries Donnelly named Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova and the states of Central Asia. From this point of view, the Baltic countries are less at risk, although they may also be pressured.Well, let him be afraid. The eyes are big in fear. The mattresses know everything.
  44. Serg93
    Serg93 30 May 2014 01: 42
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    Well done !!! Fast and beautiful !!! Now Crimea Russia)))
  45. alexey1425
    alexey1425 20 August 2014 01: 35
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    Know ours!