70 anniversary of the first flight of the Il-10 attack aircraft

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18 April 1944 year VK Kokkinaki performed from the Central Airport. Mv Frunze on the Khodynka field in Moscow, the first flight of the Il-10 attack aircraft.

The aircraft was built at an aircraft factory number 18 in Kuibyshev, and its final assembly was carried out at the plant number 240 in Moscow, attack aircraft equipped with AM-42 engine had a powerful artillery armament - four wing NA-23 gun with a common ammunition 600 cartridges and the turret gun UB -20. The maximum speed of the IL-10 was equal to 551 km / h - almost 150 km / h more than the maximum speed of the IL-2.



Of the variety of tasks that solved the IL-2 during the Great Patriotic War, their use as fighters was especially unusual. Of course, IL-2 could not fight on equal terms with faster and more maneuverable front-line fighters of the enemy, but when meeting with some of the bombers and transport aircraft of the enemy that were widely used in combat, the IL-2 aircraft, as a rule, shot them down.

Based on the combat experience of using the Il-2, the State Defense Committee of 17 in May 1943 decided to create a single-armored IL-1 fighter. Sergey Vladimirovich Ilyushin did not share the concept of an armored fighter, and the design of the IL-1 was conducted in terms of the possibility of further use of the aircraft as a high-speed and maneuverable two-seater armored attack aircraft. The new aircraft received the designation IL-10.

Military pilots praised the IL-10 as simple in piloting technique and not requiring special retraining with the IL-2. According to military testers: "... The IL-10 is a classic example of an attack aircraft."

After the tests, the Il-10 attack aircraft was launched into the series and from 15 on April 1945 began to take part in the hostilities.

Shortly before that, in March 28 1945 years, as part of the aircraft tests over the airfield Shprottau in Silesia demonstration dogfight the Il-10 was organized, which was piloted by Captain A. Sirotkin of 108-th Guards Attack Aviation Regiment, a fighter La 5FN that piloted by Hero of the Soviet Union, Captain V. Popkov from the 5 Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment. By that time, V. Popkov was a recognized ace, who had about 100 battles and 39 downed enemy aircraft.

The fight ended in a draw, but the film of the photo machine gun impartially showed that both the pilot and the air gunner IL-10 repeatedly caught the fighter in the crosshairs of the sights.

This led to the main conclusion that if an experienced, enterprising pilot and accurate air gunner were in the attack cockpit, they would have a good chance of winning the fight with the fighter. Moreover, at altitudes up to 2 000 meters, the IL-10 was not inferior in speed to the German fighters Me-109G2 and FW-190A-4.

By the end of World War II, the high combat qualities of the Il-10 aircraft were successfully used by several assault air regiments. In large quantities attack aircraft Il-10 used in the war with Japan.

After the end of World War II, the Il-10 re-equipped all the assault air units of the Red Army that remained after the disbandment. In addition to the Soviet Air Force, they were in service with the assault air regiments of the Polish, Czechoslovakian, Chinese, North Korean air forces.

70 anniversary of the first flight of the Il-10 attack aircraft






Armored fighter IL-1











The first experienced attack aircraft Il-10 at the aircraft factory number 18 in Kuibyshev. February, 1944





Experienced Il-10 attack aircraft with a W-20 gun of 20 mm caliber in the VU-7 defensive installation. State tests. May, 1944








Experienced upgraded attack aircraft IL-10M



Serial upgraded attack aircraft IL-10M



Il-10M attack aircraft - target towing vehicle



Stormtrooper IL-10 Air Force North Korea.





In the Korean War, the Il-10 attack aircraft was a fairly effective aircraft that directly supported ground forces. At the same time, it began to become obsolete and was easy prey for enemy fighter jets. These vehicles supported from the air the advance of the North Korean armies in the first weeks of the war and attacked Kimpo airfield when the US evacuated its citizens. Active at the beginning of the war, the North Korean Air Force then rarely participated in hostilities.









During the Korean War, several attack aircraft Il-10 fell into the hands of Americans and were comprehensively studied. Two IL-10s were sent to the United States for research at the Cornell aerodynamic laboratory in Ithaca, New York. The planes were repaired and made test flights at the Wright airfield in Ohio.
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  1. +12
    April 24 2014 07: 43
    Yes, if he appeared a couple of years earlier, maybe he would have saved a lot of lives, and so - he, alas, not when he will not overshadow the glory, his older "brother" - Il2, "hunchbacked" ... Who is on his "hump" all endured the war ...
    1. +1
      April 24 2014 08: 31
      and there they saw an armored fighter - I wonder how many lives of our pilots saved
      1. +8
        April 24 2014 09: 24
        Quote: Siberian German
        and there they saw an armored fighter - I wonder how many lives of our pilots saved

        It was a prototype that would be ineffective in real combat, since it was not maneuverable ... And it was planned as a bomber fighter. Due to his low ability to vigorous vertical maneuver, in battle against other fighters, he would be a "lame duck"
        1. +2
          April 24 2014 12: 13
          Quote: svp67
          It was a prototype that in a real battle would be ineffective, as it was poorly maneuverable ..


          On May 19, 1944, test pilot V.K. Kokkinaki made the first flight on an IL-1 fighter. In the process of conducting factory flight tests on an IL-1 aircraft with a normal flight weight of 5320 kg, a maximum horizontal speed of 580 km / t was reached at an altitude of 3260 m. According to its speed characteristics, in the range of heights from the ground and up to 4000 m, the IL-1 armored fighter significantly surpassed the FW-190A-4 fighter widely used in the Luftwaffe and practically did not yield to the enemy’s mass fighter light Bf-109G-2. According to V.K. Kokkinaki, the IL-1 fighter performed all aerobatics gently, easily. The aircraft completed the full turn in the horizontal plane at an altitude of 1000 m in 20 s, and the Bf-109G-2 fighter in 22 ... 23 s. With a combat turnaround for 13 ... 14 s, the Il-1 fighter gained a height of 900 m. However, thanks to the increased power of Soviet fighter aircraft, which had gained strategic dominance in the air, by mid-1944 the need for a combat aircraft of this type had already disappeared, so Il -1 was not passed.

          http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/il1.html
          1. +2
            April 24 2014 12: 40
            Quote: Vadivak
            The aircraft completed the full turn in the horizontal plane at an altitude of 1000 m in 20 s, and the Bf-109G-2 fighter in 22 ... 23 s

            Yes, they turned cool, it was not for nothing that almost the entire war at Ilov the "circle" remained one of the most common defensive maneuvers ... But how did they "feel" in the vertical maneuver?
            1. +4
              April 24 2014 14: 08
              Quote: svp67
              But how did they "feel" in the vertical maneuver?

              In a combat turn for 13 ... 14 s, the IL-1 fighter gained a height of 900 m
    2. +8
      April 24 2014 09: 34
      Quote: svp67
      Yes, if he had appeared a couple of years earlier, he might have saved a lot of lives ...

      The article is somewhat "ceremonial". One gets the feeling that he has appeared and - hurray, a qualitative leap!
      Painfully brought "ten", as it were, not the entire end of the forties.
      Rastrenin found that in 1945, an IL-10 attack on one failure was only a few hours. For comparison, the IL-2, he was hundreds hours.
      That is, roughly speaking, a couple of weeks of hostilities, and due to the fault of materiel (engine, glider) - the entire regiment is not combat-ready. Everyone is doing repairs.
      1. +6
        April 24 2014 10: 01
        Drabkin "I fought on the IL-2" has veterans' memories of the IL-10, all reviews are unanimous - the plane is raw, they did not want to fight on it
        1. -2
          April 24 2014 11: 14
          Drabkin, who "I fought in the T-34", "I fought in the Il-2", "I fought in everything that happened in the Second World War" ... I tried to read. some kind of gunk. After reading Drapkin, it becomes, firstly, ashamed of us, bastards, and secondly, it is not at all clear how we, being such a cattle, were able to win?
          Somehow he is a democratically liberal author. He can fit scripts for Nikita Mikhalkov))))
          1. xan
            +2
            April 24 2014 11: 52
            Quote: qwert
            After reading Drapkin, firstly, it becomes embarrassing for us lapotniks, and secondly, it is generally unclear how we, being such a cattle, could defeat?
            Somehow he is a democratically liberal author. He can fit scripts for Nikita Mikhalkov))))

            there is just an interview with veterans, where does Drapkin?
            But there are different veterans. Full of those who wet the Fritz in the tail and mane.
            1. +5
              April 24 2014 12: 11
              Here is an interview. Here it is clear exactly what moments from the interview Drapkin pulls out. In what manner was the conversation conducted. And perhaps most of the veterans just did not enter the book.
              Regretfully, I watched as the elderly people changed their view of the events they were witnesses under the influence of the media. Sometimes you listen, old man, as he says about the repression of the thirties. Reveals both Stalin and Beria. And then you ask him, and you have a grandfather who of your relatives represen. And grandfather thinks, trying to remember, and then says that nobody. And if you continue to ask him what he was a witness about, it turns out that in those years he himself did not notice these repressions. But after the death of Stalin, all his atrocities became known. Once the leadership of the country has announced, then it was so.
              So with the war this happens. The veteran himself did not see this in his unit. But then I heard after the war that some general had seven front-line wives, and also that German women were raped in Berlin. But, this is not part of it. They didn’t have that. But, that, that was with others believes. Yes, and how not to believe. After all, they’ve been brainwashed for so many years. And I know from my grandfather that the old people are more active in the same advertising. More trusting they are. Maybe because of the generation that lied less, they do not have this vaccine against lies?
              1. +1
                April 24 2014 18: 02
                qwert - and you definitely read that same Drabkin ?!
              2. Owl
                Owl
                0
                5 May 2014 18: 03
                Because of the generation that lied less, they do not have this vaccine against lies. Truth.
              3. 0
                28 March 2015 11: 35
                Maybe because of the generation that lied less, they do not have this vaccine against lies?

                It was just that there was censorship in the Soviet memoirs, and much was not written, or was written with exaggeration.
            2. +5
              April 24 2014 12: 18
              Quote: xan
              What does Drapkin have to do with it?


              Dear forum users, please do not distort the surname

              Artyom Vladimir Drabkin
            3. +2
              9 July 2014 19: 56
              Quote: xan
              there is just an interview with veterans, where does Drapkin?

              Once, back in the 80s, my university boss said: "Both Prada and Zheimin Zhi-bao cite Lenin, but for some reason their conclusions are different." This means that an interview is a crafty thing, you can write anything you want here: you can pick people up, ask the right questions, put together the pieces how to put together, and emphasize the necessary accents. And there are no complaints: it was the veterans who spoke.
          2. +6
            April 24 2014 17: 56
            Quote: qwert
            Drabkin, who "I fought in the T-34", "I fought in the Il-2", "I fought in everything that happened in the Second World War" ... I tried to read. some kind of gunk. After reading Drapkin, it becomes, firstly, ashamed of us, bastards, and secondly, it is not at all clear how we, being such a cattle, were able to win?
            Somehow he is a democratically liberal author. He can fit scripts for Nikita Mikhalkov))))


            I read Drabkin, I did not see a special chernukha. Sometimes veterans in their memoirs spoke unflattering about the commanders, sometimes about equipment or living conditions, but the general impression is that people did their hard and dangerous work and were sympathetic to the difficulties and the shortcomings that we had then.
            1. 0
              April 25 2014 07: 02
              To be honest, I read about how he fought on a bomber. Well, I'll try to read more. Maybe I came across just the only book where it is described that our Army was ALL BAD. Perhaps other works by Drabkin still show why we won. How did our soldiers surpass the German ones, and why are some models of equipment even recognized by foreign experts as the best or some of the best of the Second World War period.
              What way would you advise from Drabkin in this situation?
              1. badger1974
                0
                April 25 2014 20: 53
                why did you clung to Drabkin, read for example Vasily Borisychya Emelianenko "In the harsh military air", a rather detailed material, what nasty things to pour, about the IL-10 there that is, very interesting, although there are losses in Korea. but not by Soviet pilots
              2. 0
                28 March 2015 11: 38
                Read - I fought on the T-34.

                You can still listen to Astafiev, or other veterans.


          3. +1
            28 March 2015 11: 16
            Drabkin has collected honest, truthful memoirs of the participants of the Second World War. There is no chernukha, just the truth of life without embellishment. I did not see any vilification or indiscriminate praise of any of our or German equipment. At least I did not notice an outright lie. And some inaccuracies, especially over time, according to older veterans are permissible. And Nikita Mikhalkov's film "Burnt by the Sun-2" I really liked. The different sides of war and human relations are shown. German technology has been truly portrayed. And then the T-54 will be covered with shields, in the Urals, the crosses will be drawn by the Germans near Moscow
          4. 0
            28 March 2015 11: 16
            Drabkin has collected honest, truthful memoirs of the participants of the Second World War. There is no chernukha, just the truth of life without embellishment. I did not see any vilification or indiscriminate praise of any of our or German equipment. At least I did not notice an outright lie. And some inaccuracies, especially over time, according to older veterans are permissible. And Nikita Mikhalkov's film "Burnt by the Sun-2" I really liked. The different sides of war and human relations are shown. German technology has been truly portrayed. And then the T-54 will be covered with shields, in the Urals, the crosses will be drawn by the Germans near Moscow
          5. 0
            28 March 2015 11: 32
            In fact, the author of the contents of his books is not he, but veterans.
        2. 0
          28 March 2015 11: 30
          Yes, I read several books by Drabkin. Interesting interviews from veterans. Moreover, it is already uncensored, in a free style. That's what they wrote about IL-10.
      2. +2
        April 24 2014 10: 27
        Well, actually 10ka is almost a necessary step - to which Ilyushin went so as not to lose production. In 1943, the Su-6 was very successfully tested, which exceeded Ila in all combat parameters and, most importantly, had a more tenacious circuit with an air-cooled engine. And for a sharp increase in Il's flight data, an engine replacement was required - which was associated with a large amount of work on the alteration of the load-bearing armored hull, and Il was constantly having problems with centering. So Ilyushin grabbed onto the 42 year’s remake ... It is clear that in wartime conditions they chose the model that was still debugged in production and not a completely new aircraft - despite all the shortcomings, it was more important to keep the volume of cars produced.
        And honestly sorry ...
        1. +1
          April 24 2014 14: 20
          Quote: Taoist
          In 1943, the Su-6 was very successfully tested, which exceeded Ila in all combat parameters, and most importantly had a more tenacious circuit with an air-cooled engine.



          However, the NKAP proposed to replace the M-6 motor with the AM-71 motor on a Su-42 aircraft. That was done. The AM-6 motor No. 42 installed on the Su-4277 aircraft, on which, according to the entry in the form, a number of design changes were made, recommended in the act on state testing of the AM-42 motor on the machine, was received from the factory No. 24 on May 27, 1944 of the year.


          Su-6 M-42.
          1. +2
            April 24 2014 16: 07
            Well, there actually was a lot of things mixed up ... The M-42 was an attempt to "save the car" because the required M-71F NKAP refused to enter the series. More precisely, he stubbornly "stupid" this case. Well, the alteration for a water cooling engine led to a deterioration in flight performance and, as a result, the 6th no longer had any special advantages over the 10th ... In general, "scandals, intrigues, investigations" ruined a lot of certainly sensible projects in aviation.
            1. +2
              April 24 2014 16: 31
              Quote: Taoist
              and as a result, the 6th already had no particular advantages over the 10th ...


              That's it. What they wanted and achieved. Dry direct competitor to Ilyushin on this topic, and Ilyushin, as you know, was friends with Yakovlev ....

              The topic of the Su-14 jet attack aircraft did not find support on November 14, 1949 by the decree of the government of the OKB P.O.Sukhogo Design Bureau, was liquidated, work on the attack aircraft under the code “N” (Su-14) was discontinued.
              1. +1
                April 24 2014 18: 23
                Quote: Vadivak
                Dry direct competitor to Ilyushin on this topic, and Ilyushin, as you know, was friends with Yakovlev ....

                Dear colleague Vadim, deputy People's Commissar of the Aviation Industry Yakovlev A.S. oversaw the pilot aircraft industry. But industrial production oversaw the 1st deputy. People's Commissar Dementiev Pyotr Vasilyevich, with whom, like with People's Commissar Shakhurin A.I., Ilyushin had good relations (which Sukhoi P.O. failed to establish).
                But to the fate of OKB Sukhov P.O. and the Su-14 plane, Yakovlev already had nothing to do, because already in July 1946 he was relieved of his post as deputy. Minister of Aviation Industry.
                "The Council of Ministers of the USSR DECIDES:
                Satisfy the request of Comrade A. Yakovlev for his dismissal from the post of Deputy Minister of Aviation Industry for general issues, in connection with his great design work on the creation of new aircraft.
                For six years of leadership at the Ministry of Aviation Industry, along with personal design work, thank Comrade A. Yakovlev.

                Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR
                J. Stalin
                Head of the Council of Ministers of the USSR
                Ya. Chadayev ".
                1. 0
                  April 24 2014 20: 46
                  Quote: Gamdlislyam
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Dry direct competitor to Ilyushin on this topic, and Ilyushin, as you know, was friends with Yakovlev ....

                  Dear colleague Vadim, deputy People's Commissar of the Aviation Industry Yakovlev A.S. oversaw the pilot aircraft industry. But industrial production oversaw the 1st deputy. People's Commissar Dementiev Pyotr Vasilyevich, with whom, like with People's Commissar Shakhurin A.I., Ilyushin had good relations (which Sukhoi P.O. failed to establish).
                  But to the fate of OKB Sukhov P.O. and the Su-14 plane, Yakovlev already had nothing to do, because already in July 1946 he was relieved of his post as deputy. Minister of Aviation Industry.
                  "The Council of Ministers of the USSR DECIDES:
                  Satisfy the request of Comrade A. Yakovlev for his dismissal from the post of Deputy Minister of Aviation Industry for general issues, in connection with his great design work on the creation of new aircraft.
                  For six years of leadership at the Ministry of Aviation Industry, along with personal design work, thank Comrade A. Yakovlev.

                  Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR
                  J. Stalin
                  Head of the Council of Ministers of the USSR
                  Ya. Chadayev ".

                  Yakovlev was fired. And fired rightfully. It was necessary to plant.
                  1. +1
                    April 25 2014 09: 19
                    Quote: Vasya
                    But to the fate of OKB Sukhov P.O. and the Su-14 plane, Yakovlev already had nothing to do, because already in July 1946 he was relieved of his post as deputy. Minister of Aviation Industry.


                    I did not write that Yakovlev was related to the fate of the Su-14.

                    As for the departure of Yakovlev, in 1946 Shakhurin was imprisoned in April, and Yakovlev was sent to do what he did.

                    And here is how their work with Shakhurin was appreciated by Stalin:

                    “Do you know that you disabled fighter aircraft?” Do you know what service Hitler did ?! You are the Nazis!
                    1. 0
                      April 30 2014 14: 35
                      Dear colleague Vadim, this was in the summer of 1943, before the Battle of Kursk. That's just stalin I.V. not Shakhurina A.I., but Dementieva P.V. and Yakovleva A.S.
                      In the book "The Purpose of Life" Yakovlev A.S. this is how it describes:
                      "“But did you know that only the most insidious enemy could do this ?!” That is exactly what I would have done - having released suitable aircraft at the factory so that they would be worthless at the front! The enemy would not do us more damage, would not invent anything worse. This is a job for Hitler!
                      He repeated several times that the most insidious enemy could not have done more harm.
                      “Do you know that you disabled fighter aircraft?” Do you know what service Hitler did ?! You are the Nazis!
                      It is hard to imagine our condition at that moment. I felt colder. But Dementiev stood all red and nervously fiddling with his hands a piece of the ill-fated casing.
                      A few minutes passed in deathly silence. Finally, Stalin, after some time in thought, calmed down a bit and asked in a businesslike way:
                      - What do we do?
                      Dementiev said that we will immediately fix all the aircraft.
                      - What does it mean immediately? How long? Dementiev thought for a moment, exchanged a glance with me:
                      - In two weeks.
                      - But do not cheat?
                      - No, comrade Stalin, we’ll do it.
                      "
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      3. +2
        April 24 2014 20: 43
        Quote: BigRiver
        Rastrenin found that in 1945, an IL-10 attack on one failure was only a few hours. For comparison, the IL-2, he was hundreds of hours.

        The problems of Soviet aircraft construction until the 50s were in the engines.
        These problems reappeared in the late 80s, due to lobbyists from foreign companies.
    3. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
      0
      7 July 2014 22: 01
      According to the testimony of the pilots themselves ("I fought on the IL-2" Drabkin A.) he was very disliked for the complexity of control.
  2. +3
    April 24 2014 08: 07
    It is a pity, little information about the use of IL-10 in Korea.
    1. +4
      April 24 2014 09: 23
      Quote: 0255
      It is a pity, little information about the use of IL-10 in Korea.

      Their Americans almost immediately removed all of them from "the sky ..." There, Koreans and Chinese flew at the controls, ours were not there. Accordingly, the preparation was not high.
      1. +1
        April 24 2014 14: 51
        Quote: svp67
        Koreans and Chinese flew there at the controls, ours were not there. Accordingly, the preparation was not high.

        The century of reactants began, piston planes gradually left the sky and pilots were not particularly guilty that they could not resist jet fighters, no.
      2. 0
        April 24 2014 15: 34
        in the North Korean Air Force there were many pilots who still had experience in the Japanese Air Force.
  3. 0
    April 24 2014 08: 45
    It turns out interestingly, but helicopters, less, much less fast, also become easy prey for modern fighters. Aircraft like this, compared to helicopters, are more economical, faster, more maneuverable. Although there are the same "Rooks" Maybe this plane would fit somewhere. BEAUTIFUL plane !!!!!. Like most planes !!!!!!
    1. 0
      April 24 2014 14: 52
      Quote: Free Wind
      but helicopters, less much less fast, also become easy prey for modern fighters. Airplanes like this, compared to helicopters, are more economical, faster, more maneuverable.

      Then you re-read what you wrote? And here is a comparison of helicopters and aircraft? belay
      1. 0
        April 24 2014 20: 19
        I beg your pardon, I mean that in some cases, attack aircraft, could well have replaced helicopters, I repeat once again, in some cases. Equip the attack aircraft with modern units, modern electronics and weapons and you can get a very formidable WARRIOR !!! And much cheaper, and no less formidable than helicopters! Although there are "Rooks".
        1. 0
          28 March 2015 13: 05
          Tried, but ...
  4. +4
    April 24 2014 09: 46
    Beautiful plane !!!
    1. +1
      April 24 2014 12: 07
      Another reason for pride in our Fathers and Grandfathers. For our homeland!
  5. +1
    April 24 2014 10: 03
    Good photos, thanks to the author of the article (but only for the photos).
    1. +2
      April 24 2014 18: 37
      Quote: nvn_co
      Nice photos

      The photos are really good, but the IL-10 on them is post-war release, and this is a completely different plane compared to what was produced at the end of 44 - at 45 years old.
  6. +1
    April 24 2014 10: 29
    The IL-10 attack aircraft that appeared at the end of the war reflected Soviet theoretical views and experience in the combat use of attack aircraft. Rational reservation made it possible to reduce the weight of the structure and increase the flight performance of the machine, the mass of the total salvo and bomb load, however, the presence of small and medium caliber ground forces in the battle formations at the end of the 40s, including with radar guidance, the use of fighter jets made the attack aircraft detectable and vulnerable. The production of such machines has become economically disadvantageous. The IL-10 was more expensive than the American Mustang, Corsair and Hellket, the English Firefly with the same combat effectiveness. In the Korean War, it was used by North Korean pilots to attack ground and sea targets. The concept of a fire support aircraft after the Korean War was revised. In the USSR, it was abandoned in favor of combat helicopters and jet fighter bombers, in the USA they created the quite successful AD-1 Skyrader and used it in a number of local conflicts along with the Iroquois airborne assault helicopters until the early 70s. , "Kiowa" and the fighting "Cobra". Subsequently, the changed technical and technological level of the aviation industry and armaments made it possible to implement the concept of a jet aircraft for direct support of troops. The Soviet Su-25 and the American A-10 Thunderbolt-2 were most famous.
  7. -1
    April 24 2014 10: 31
    The article is normal, general, reviewing, the most for unenlightened citizens. Ilya beat the enemy so that it still stinks of them. And it stinks of amers even when they just think about our air cars.
  8. +2
    April 24 2014 11: 27
    Well, he fought in Korea. He was in principle no worse than Skyrider. Well, yes ... I took fewer bombs. However, in general, as an attack aircraft, which is not just a bomb carrier, but a tenacious, maneuverable, able to act on the front line, it is definitely no worse. Therefore, the Americans could shoot them just like MiG Skyriders. No more.
    It was used in the fight against ships. Look for books about aviation in Korea. There, in principle, there were two attack aircraft Tu-2 and Il-10. And for some reason, the attacks from IL-10 on ships are mainly described.
    Well, in World War II, yes ... In general, the swan song of the stormtroopers. Therefore, you will not find a comparison of the IL-10 with Western vehicles anywhere. He simply has no one to compare. There was nothing like anyone else. Comparing with American fighters, I consider it frivolous. You will not compare a tank and an armored vehicle such as Centario. Even if the guns on them are the same. Vitality is different. And send an armored car to the battlefield to break through the enemy defense is possible only as a necessary measure.
    Therefore, in the end, the Americans created their A-1, but the truth is with not very good reservations.
    And even in the 60's, some Air Force generals admitted that it was a mistake to cut them into scrap.
    1. +1
      April 24 2014 14: 46
      Quote: qwert
      And even in the 60's, some Air Force generals admitted that it was a mistake to cut them into scrap.


      In the PRC, IL-10 were operated until 1972, and 24 B-33 aircraft in 1957 delivered to Yemen.
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  9. +5
    April 24 2014 11: 34
    The Il-10 was in service not only in the USSR, but also in the socialist countries. In 1949, 40 Il-10s were received by the Polish Air Force (4th, 5th and 6th assault air regiments). In addition, the "ten" entered service with the Yugoslav and Czech air forces.

    attack aircraft Il-10 Bulgarian Air Force
    Since the end of December 1951 in Czechoslovakia at the Avia aircraft plant in Sokovitsa, according to the drawings of the Voronezh aircraft plant No. 64, serial production of the licensed version of the Il-10 under the designation B-33 was launched. On its basis, the Czechs also produced a training version of the SV-33. In the period 1953-54. Czech attack aircraft were supplied to Poland, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. Serial production of the B-33 ended in 1955 after the release of 1200 aircraft of this type. Since 1958, the attack aircraft in Czechoslovakia was gradually eliminated. The regiments were re-equipped with MiG-15bis. The last B-33s were removed from service in September 1960, when the 32nd regiment was disbanded.

    Czechoslovak clone Il-10- attack aircraft B-33
    Unlike the Soviet IL-10, Czech attack aircraft were armed with 4 NS-23RM guns (for 150 shells per barrel). In Poland, a part of the B-33 was modified to suspend two outboard gas tanks from the MiG-17. PTBs were hung on bomb locks under the center section.

    B-33 attack aircraft at the Polish Air Force Museum in Krakow
    The first batch of 50 IL-10 and two UIL-10 arrived in the Hungarian Air Force in September 1949. All the planes, as they say, were “in use”, but were in pretty good condition. Then there were still small deliveries of aircraft of this type. In October 1950, the aviation of this country disposed of 67 IL-10 and 14 IL-10. Further manning of the Hungarian assault regiments was mainly due to the supply of equipment from Czechoslovakia. In total, 159 IL-10 and UIL-10 and their licensing options were delivered to Hungary. Airplanes of this type were used there until the second half of 1956.
    Romania was the last of the countries of the socialist camp to receive IL-10. In March 1953 from the Soviet Union arrived 30 aircraft Il-10 and UIL-10, already in operation. They entered the arsenal of the 63th assault air group. In June of that year, the Romanian Air Force additionally received 150 of the Czechoslovak B-33. Soviet and Czech “tens” were withdrawn from service in 1960.
    1. +4
      April 24 2014 11: 45
      Well, the most striking page in the post-war history of the Il-10 attack aircraft was his participation in the Korean War 1950-1953:
      In 1946, Soviet aircraft began to arrive in North Korea. A training regiment was created in Pyongyang, also referred to as an aviation school in a number of sources. There, our instructors trained Koreans on various aircraft, including several Wil-Xnumx. In 10, almost a year before the official declaration of the DPRK, the formation of a mixed air division began. Its structure included the 1947th assault regiment. Later, the numbering of parts and compounds was changed. The division became 1, and the regiment became 5. Flight and technical personnel were also trained in the USSR, and later in China.

      On 28 on April 1950, Senior Lieutenant Lee Gang Sung defected, having stolen his IL-10 to South Korea. He sat in the Yongdongpo area. The plane was later driven to the Kimpo airfield near Seoul. There, he, apparently, two months later became the trophy of the North Koreans.
      On 25 June 1950, when the war in Korea began, the northerners had 93 Il-10 and Wil-10. On the very first day of hostilities, attack aircraft supported the attacks of infantry and tanks. In addition, they attacked strongholds and concentrations of enemy troops. North Korean aviation completely dominated the air. Southerners did not have fighters; the nearest American units were deployed in Japan. There was also no organized air defense. Under these conditions, the actions of the attack aircraft were very effective.
      For example, on the morning of June 26, a pair of Il-Xnumx, accompanied by fighters, bombed and fired at a freight station in Seoul. They managed to blow up the composition with ammunition and destroy a lot of enemy manpower. The Americans also report the participation of attack aircraft in raids on the Kimpo airfield, where most of the aircraft of the then very few South Korean air forces were burned.
      But the very next day, US jet fighters appeared in the sky. In the morning of June 27, near Suwon, they intercepted an eight IL-10 and shot down (according to American data) four cars. The Koreans, in response, tried to strike at the Suwon airfield, but lost a couple more attack aircraft. Other sources say that on 27 in June, Koreans lost only four Il-10, and the Mustang fighter was destroyed by the return air gunner’s fire.
      Enhanced enemy aircraft did not prevent the forces of Kim Il Sung from taking 28 June Seoul. At the Kimpo airfield, North Korean attack aircraft were deployed. They supported units moving further south, in particular, they actively participated in battles on the approaches to Busan, where North Korean tankers tried to break through the defenses of the American 24 infantry division.
      But then dominance in the air passed to the enemy. Almost every attack flight was accompanied by losses. The Americans also regularly bombed and fired at the airfields of the northerners. After two weeks of fighting, the 57 regiment left about two dozen operational IL-10. They were dispersed at various sites. They flew in groups of no more than four to six aircraft. At the end of summer, the Soviet Union handed over a number of attack aircraft to the Koreans, but this did not compensate for the loss of equipment. Among other things, North Korean aviation lost its reserves of flight personnel.
      1. +3
        April 24 2014 11: 53
        However, the DPRK troops pressed the enemy. The Air Force helped in this way. On July 16, the defense of the Americans was broken through; four days later, Mr. Daejeon fell. All these days, attack aircraft continuously attacked the enemy defenses. They acted over the sea. 22 August at about. Munchans in the Yellow Sea, a pair of Il-Xnumx allegedly sunk an enemy ship: either a destroyer or a minesweeper. In any case, the Americans did not officially recognize this loss.
        Korean sources call AN Hong Zun the most productive attack pilot, reporting that he destroyed the destroyer and two aircraft.
        By the end of August, North Korean aviation had 20 serviceable attack aircraft, which accounted for 17 pilots. On 15 of September, UN forces landed troops near Incheon and launched an offensive to the north. During the retreat, the DPRK troops threw two defective Il-Xnumx into Kimpo. Even before that, several wrecked cars fell into the hands of the Americans. Both aircraft were exported to the United States. There they were transferred to the Cornell Laboratory (Ithaca). One of the two attack aircraft was assembled. 10 June - 20 August 15 g. He was tested at Wright Field. Captain R. Steven flew on it.


        IL-10 North Korean Air Force, damaged during the bombing and captured by the Americans in a destroyed hangar at the Kimpo airfield, autumn 1950 of the year.
        In the future, the Il-10 DPRK Air Force did not play a large role in the hostilities, although it continued to be used in limited numbers until the end of the war as part of the Sino-Korean Joint Air Army, General Liu Zheng. About when the Koreans removed from service the last IL-10, there is no information.
        On August 28 and September 2 on 1949, directives of the Soviet General Staff on the supply of military equipment to China appeared. But attack aircraft began to be sent to this country only with 1950 g. These were already used cars, previously operated in the Soviet Air Force. Among the first nine divisions of the People’s Aviation of China, one was an assault. It consisted of two regiments.
        The Chinese IL-10 participated in real battles only once. In January 1955, the People’s Liberation Army, together with the fleet and aviation, captured the Jianmen Islands, from which long-range Chiang Kai-shek artillery bombarded the mainland from time to time. The landing was supported by Tu-2 bombers and Il-10 attack aircraft, operating under the cover of La-11, MiG-15 and MiG-17 fighters. In the aviation museum in Beijing, IL-10, which participated in the raids on Fr. Jiangshan.

        IL-10 at the Chinese Air Force Museum in Beijing
        The last attack aircraft removed from service in China in 1972
        There is evidence that in 1957 the 24 of the B-33 was delivered to Yemen, but there is no information about their use.
  10. +7
    April 24 2014 14: 28
    The improved and improved Il-10M was a truly combat-ready attack aircraft, on which many children's sores and wartime imperfections were eliminated. Initially, the Il-10 was a very crude machine, the aircraft that were in the ShAP at the end of the war in hostilities due to the low reliability of the engine and problems with the durability of the airframe took part sporadically. The pilots frankly disliked the new car. The article is frankly "one-sided".
    1. +2
      April 24 2014 15: 31
      Il-10M, unfortunately, appeared at the wrong time, therefore, they were released a little, by Soviet standards, of course, of all 146 machines, factory number 168 in the period 1952-54. built 136 copies of the Il-10M, of which in 1952 - 1 car, in 1953 g. - 100 pieces and in 54 m - 35 attack aircraft. In 1953, the aircraft plant No. 10 in Orenburg was connected to the IL-47M release, which launched this type of attack aircraft in 1953 4 and 54 vehicles in 6.


      As the main drawback of the serial Il-10M, the pilots of the Air Force Research Institute noted the unsatisfactory track stability: "The swinging of the aircraft in the directional relation at instrument speeds of more than 400 km / h makes it impossible to conduct aimed fire from weapons at" point targets, "
      When clarifying the causes of the attack aircraft instability, it turned out that the installation of squares on the steering wheel, eliminating previously identified self-oscillations of the aircraft, led to such an effect. After installation of the ventral ridge, the road stability of the IL-10M became normal, and then such a ridge was installed on all serial IL-10Ms.
      As of 1 in January, the 1955 of the Soviet Army Air Force had 19 assault air regiments, armed with 1700 Il-10 and Il-10М and 130 MiG-15bis jet fighters-bombers.
      In April 1956, the Minister of Defense, Marshal G.K. Zhukov, presented to the country's leadership a report prepared by the General Staff and the Air Force General Staff on the state and prospects for the development of ground attack aircraft. The report drew a conclusion about the low effectiveness of attack aircraft on the battlefield in modern warfare, and in fact it was proposed to eliminate the attack aircraft, ensuring the solution of combat missions for direct air support of ground forces in the offensive and defense by bomber and fighter aircraft. As a result of the discussion "at the top", an order of the Minister of Defense of 20.04.56 was issued, according to which assault aviation was abolished in the SA Air Force, the existing Il-10 and Il-10M were written off "according to the plan of the Ministry of Defense", the flight crew was partially retrained on MiG 15bis, and in part - was transferred to the fighter aviation of the Air Force and Air Defense. In parallel with the acceleration of the attack aircraft, the government decree of 13.04.56 stopped the serial production of the Il-40 armored jet attack aircraft and stopped all experimental work on promising attack aircraft. After the resounding glory in the Great Patriotic War, the Red Army attack aircraft "went" into oblivion until the spring of 1969, when Defense Minister A.A. Grechko asked the Ministry of Aviation Industry to start work on the creation of an attack aircraft that meets the requirements of modern warfare, and announced a competition to develop it.
  11. 0
    April 24 2014 15: 06
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: svp67
    But how did they "feel" in the vertical maneuver?

    In a combat turn for 13 ... 14 s, the IL-1 fighter gained a height of 900 m

    These characteristics are relevant for 1941, approximately correspond to the Yak-1. Bf-109G, depending on the modification, gained from 1050 to 1350 m. La-5F (FN) 1100..1250 m. Fw-190A - 700..900 m. P-51D 1000..1100 m.

    so yes, lame duck, for 1945.
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    2. badger1974
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      April 25 2014 21: 51
      These characteristics are relevant for 1941, approximately correspond to the Yak-1. Bf-109G, depending on the modification, gained from 1050 to 1350 m. La-5F (FN) 1100..1250 m. Fw-190A - 700..900 m. P-51D 1000..1100 m.



      extremely misleading, at least go to the site of Svetka Savitskaya, we can clarify the situation for you,
  12. 52
    +5
    April 24 2014 17: 28
    Quote: qwert
    Here is an interview. Here it is clear exactly what moments from the interview Drapkin pulls out. In what manner was the conversation conducted. And perhaps most of the veterans just did not enter the book.
    Regretfully, I watched as the elderly people changed their view of the events they were witnesses under the influence of the media. Sometimes you listen, old man, as he says about the repression of the thirties. Reveals both Stalin and Beria. And then you ask him, and you have a grandfather who of your relatives represen. And grandfather thinks, trying to remember, and then says that nobody. And if you continue to ask him what he was a witness about, it turns out that in those years he himself did not notice these repressions. But after the death of Stalin, all his atrocities became known. Once the leadership of the country has announced, then it was so.
    So with the war this happens. The veteran himself did not see this in his unit. But then I heard after the war that some general had seven front-line wives, and also that German women were raped in Berlin. But, this is not part of it. They didn’t have that. But, that, that was with others believes. Yes, and how not to believe. After all, they’ve been brainwashed for so many years. And I know from my grandfather that the old people are more active in the same advertising. More trusting they are. Maybe because of the generation that lied less, they do not have this vaccine against lies?

    I recommend reading the meaning of these interview books, where Artem very clearly set priorities for the interview and historical accuracy itself, otherwise nobody for some reason reads the author’s smart word at the beginning or end of the book.
  13. 52
    +2
    April 24 2014 17: 32
    No, IL-10 was not a warrior plane, but rather a half-aristocrat who was hitting the war curtain. At Rasstrenin Pts. detailed and correctly painted, I recommend reading it.
  14. 52
    +3
    April 24 2014 17: 40
    During the Korean War, several attack aircraft Il-10 fell into the hands of Americans and were comprehensively studied. Two IL-10s were sent to the United States for research at the Cornell aerodynamic laboratory in Ithaca, New York. The planes were repaired and made test flights at the Wright airfield in Ohio.
    Well, I really want to read the review and reviews of the mattresses about the tests, as much drooling!
    1. 0
      April 25 2014 07: 09
      Well, a lot has been written about this plane. There are two issues of the magazine "War in the Air", here, in my opinion, was about the assessment. They gave a high assessment, including the engine. The type of power density surpassed the American liquid cooling. And in the plane itself, they noted a very high security and speed, noted both maneuverability and powerful rear hemisphere weapons by American standards.
  15. +1
    April 25 2014 10: 37
    My first comment on this article was a review. I must say that the authors of most of the comments have "desk-computer" thinking and therefore vaguely and very simplistically represent aircraft control, aerial combat, field operation of engines and much more, without which aviation as a type of armed forces could not exist.
    I’ll try to “clarify” something on the IL-10 and individual “near-air” issues:
    So, dear:
    Vadivak - A combat U-turn on a piston fighter aircraft is one of the important elements of aerial combat. The lighter the plane, the easier it is to complete this figure. The heavier the plane, the harder it is because more effort on the control knob, no amplifiers were invented then. Which is easier to squeeze a weight of 16 kg or 32? What a vertical maneuver on a heavy plane!
    At the top of the turnaround from overload, not only the enemy, but in general, at some point, nothing is visible. It was from this position that they most often opened fire, most often ineffective, but there were exceptions. It is known that Viktor Talalikhin won one of his victories in 1941.

    Dear Taoist: You are right in many respects, but in the war period for the IL-2, the most suitable and well-developed was the AM-38. To meet the needs of the front, not only the AM-35, but also the MiG-3 were discontinued, although the machine had a very great potential for modernization. The same fate befell many other promising aircraft, because the design idea did not stand still. Regarding the IL-6, IL-8, there is an opinion that, compared with the IL-2, they required large alterations of production and therefore did not go into series. It is hardly worth regretting it, because the tactics of attack aircraft operations were unchanged then, the nomenclature of weapons, and the increase in engine power and flight speed did not provide an increase in the accuracy of hitting targets. If you consider the design of the AM-38,40,42, you will not find such significant differences, for example, as in the German engines installed on the modifications ME-109 and FV-190. The aircraft became more powerful than the IL-2, but it was not at all easier and easier to fly.

    Vasya:
    You don’t understand anything at all in aviation. My advice to you, do not read and do not write all sorts of nonsense. Yakovlev never aspired to a monopoly, but was extremely demanding in matters of production technology. You can find fault as much as you like, but "the king is made by the retinue."
    Yak-3 - the lightest fighter in the world of World War 2.
    Yak-9 - the most massive Soviet fighter of World War 2.
    YAK-50 (1949) - a jet fighter, with an engine similar to the MiG-15 was structurally lighter by 250 kg and more technologically advanced in production.
    You can still list a lot, but according to reviews, Yak goes for the "pen", and about other designers you can hear:
    “As always, it’s“ oversized ”(Lavochkin);
    “He first made a plane, and then he looked for where to put the crew in it” (Tupolev);
    “Designer Sukhoi, a crude aircraft, a mechanic wet (Sukhoi);

    Qwert: It’s stupid to write who would take someone from heaven. It’s not cars that fight, but people, and it is their training that determines the outcome of the battle. The Il-10 fought in Korea, and the Skyrader appeared later and was structurally more advanced and therefore lasted until the early 70s. In our army, knowledge is inversely proportional to ranks and it is not worth referring to the opinion of other generals.
  16. Alf
    0
    April 26 2014 23: 28
    The author of weapons confuses IL-10 with IL-10M. The 10th armament is 2x23 mm and 2x12,7mm, and 4x23 is at 10M.
    The speed of the 10th compared to the 2nd is really greater, but the application showed that due to the increased speed the pilot does not have time to aim. The big plus of the 10th was the armored gunner’s cabin, I think it’s not worth reminding that due to incomplete booking, the loss of IL-2 shooters in relation to the losses of pilots was 7: 1.
  17. 0
    28 March 2015 11: 40
    Once they started here about veterans, the war, IL-2, then you can see this material:

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