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Gas wars: a new level

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Ukraine’s attempt to find gas suppliers in the west has failed. This was stated in plain text by Andrey Kobolev, General Director of Naftogaz of Ukraine: according to him, Slovakia refused to provide pipelines for gas reversal in the east direction. This country is a key link in the supply chain, and a lot depends on its decision. At the same time, it is possible that Slovakia refused Ukraine under the pressure of its western neighbors: the European Union doesn’t like the idea to unleash another gas war.

Gas deadlock

Slovakia and Ukraine are connected by five gas pipelines: four of them are used to ship Russian gas to Europe and controlled by Gazprom, and the fifth is mothballed. Bratislava is ready to provide reverse gas supplies for this pipe in the amount of 2,9 billion cubic meters per year. But this is a very small amount, Ukraine needs much more blue fuel.

In turn, no more than 5 billion cubic meters of gas per year can be delivered to Ukraine through the gas transmission systems of Poland and Hungary. This figure is also negligible.

Ukraine’s western neighbors are not ready to provide reverse gas supplies because most of the gas pipelines in Eastern Europe are used to transport gas from Russia to the European Union. Poland, Slovakia and Hungary are not going to denounce agreements with Gazprom to satisfy the whims of the latter-day Ukrainian government: after all, these are contracts worth several billion dollars, and Western Europe will disapprove of the termination of such important agreements. And the Kiev junta may not last for two months - is it worth it to refuse to cooperate with Gazprom?

In addition, in the West they are dissatisfied with the fact that Ukraine does not pay for the purchased gas. In Western capitals, they remember the "gas wars" between Kiev and Moscow and do not want a repetition of these events, which for all (except Ukraine) turned into huge losses.

In Western capitals, they understand that the demands of the new Ukrainian government to quickly start reversing gas are a prelude to another theft of blue fuel. After all, the “gas princess” Yulia Tymoshenko was released, and the people from her party “Batkivshchyna” control all key government posts. Despite the chaos and dictatorship of the nationalists, a woman with a scythe will not fail to take advantage of the happiness that has fallen on her, and will definitely try to organize new machinations, including gas.

And if in 2004, European politicians were not familiar with Tymoshenko and welcomed her among the leaders of Ukraine, now things are exactly the opposite. Europeans are ready to endure any excesses of an ex-prisoner, but on condition that they do not touch the interests of Europe and remain an internal affair of Ukraine. Gas contracts, in turn, are a matter of international importance, and even Tymoshenko’s close is not allowed to approach them.

And the most intransigent stance towards Ukraine was taken by Germany, largely dependent on Russian gas. Pro-German presidential candidate Vitali Klitschko after Maidan frankly "merged", so that Berlin has nothing to lose. Germany is ready for extreme measures, if we are talking about its national interests, so that the refusal of Slovakia to reverse the gas in the eastern direction can be viewed as the opinion of Berlin - in any case, the matter was not done by German diplomats. Ukraine was given a turn from the gate at the most unlucky moment for it, so that Kiev reached a better place: European integration by European integration, but also respect for the neighbors.

Europe is not going to clash again with Russia because of the theft of gas by Ukraine: it’s not only that there are problems in relations between Moscow and Brussels on the diplomatic front, the opposition will also begin in the economic sphere. It is not for nothing that today with the participation of Russia multilateral gas negotiations are taking place: without Moscow’s consent, Europe will not make a single decisive step in matters of reverse gas supplies.

What does Washington want and why it will not achieve it

The Ukrainian government in the gas issue has received support only from the United States. America is more interested than Europe in ensuring that people in Kiev are exercising Russophobic policies. However, the new government of Ukraine can be maintained only if it provides economic stability: the fact is that the Kiev junta maintains control over the country (or, in any case, over individual regions) only thanks to the spiking of oligarchs and nationalists. If the nationalist government fails to protect the interests of the oligarchs, who, by the way, are also interested in stealing gas, then the business will refuse to support marginals from western Ukraine, and the system will collapse.

Serious entrepreneurs will quickly hammer together mini-armies, capable of dealing with “ideological” nationalists within a few days, and establish an order in the country that benefits big business. And, most likely, this order will be disadvantageous for the United States: in the event of the junta being overthrown, Ukraine will rush into the arms of Russia, since no one wants to destroy economic ties with anyone, especially representatives of oligarchic circles.

Of course, the United States does not want Russophobic attitudes to weaken in Ukraine, and Washington’s victory over the nationalists for the oligarchs is extremely unprofitable. That is why the United States in every way indulge Ukrainian "entrepreneurs", including ready to represent their interests at the international level.

This explains Washington’s increased pressure on the countries of the European Union. America by hook or by crook is trying to bargain gas for Ukraine, whose economy is on the verge of collapse. No wonder Joe Biden came to Kiev the other day: by doing so, he wanted to show that the United States, unlike Europe, is entirely on the side of the Kiev leadership.

On the other hand, America cannot do anything useful. Its influence in Europe is limited, and in Ukraine even more so. Washington can give orders to Alexander Turchinov, Arseniy Yatsenik and Arsen Avakov, however there are no guarantees that these orders will be fulfilled by downstream links. It is known that the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and even the armed forces do not obey Kiev, and act locally at their own discretion - weapon they are not used against agents of the Kiev government, however, they refuse to shoot at civilians. The same can be said about the militia: it willingly cooperates with the insurgent people, and together with the militias, it keeps order in the streets of Ukrainian cities.

As for European capitals, things are even worse for Washington: The United States cannot dictate to strong Western European countries how they should build their foreign policy. America’s leverage on Europe was lost even after the end of the Cold War, when the need to contain the “red threat” disappeared. Now Washington is frantically searching for a new foothold on the European continent and is not finding it: pragmatic Europeans do not want to interfere in the confrontation between the United States and Russia. Europe is not going to bear image, diplomatic, economic losses in order for a third party to win at its expense.

Washington cannot offer alternatives to Russian gas. America was in a losing position: the idea of ​​reverse supplies of blue fuel, which is now actively being discussed in the Ukrainian and Western media, will soon be buried, as well as many other ambitious projects invented by Washington officials. The United States took upon itself too much without taking care of how they were going to realize their plans.

Now Washington’s neck is the Kiev government along with all its problems, ranging from the destroyed army to the total corruption in the state apparatus. How America without the support of Europeans will pull Ukraine out of the quagmire remains unknown. Most likely, in the near future Russia will have pleasant surprises on the diplomatic front.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 24 2014 07: 35
    +16
    Slovakia refused to provide pipelines to reverse gas eastward.
    In the same place, any such attempt on the part of Slovakia, without the construction of a SPECIAL pipeline (and who will build when and for what money ??????) will IMMEDIATELY break multibillion-dollar contracts with Gazprom ... Poor Slovakia cannot afford this maybe this "rich" Ukraine can "freeze its ears, to the evil of Russia"
    1. Arhj
      Arhj April 24 2014 09: 54
      +25
      I liked the conclusion that Tymoshenko should not be allowed to enter into gas contracts. Immediately a joke in the subject is recalled:
      Old people watch a news report about Tymoshenko’s disease in the news.
      The grandmother is compassionate: "The back hurts. Probably worked hard, dragged the weights."
      Grandfather through clenched teeth: "Aha, gas cylinders p-la."
      1. I do not care
        I do not care April 24 2014 10: 46
        +16
        I found a picture on the theme of the energy crisis laughing
        It turns out that the solution is right under the feet of Yatsenyukh.
        1. The point
          The point April 24 2014 14: 59
          +5
          it's time to switch to alternative energy sources.
    2. pavel_SPB
      pavel_SPB April 24 2014 10: 40
      +6
      not only "rich", but also "great" laughing
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 April 24 2014 07: 36
    +28
    Closer to winter there will be more and more victories.
    1. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. April 24 2014 10: 26
      +16
      Pay attention Europe is slowly draining its participation in the Ukrainian project, quietly, quietly moving away from the maydanuts and amerikosov. Another month or two and in Europe they will begin to say, first in a whisper, and then loudly, that Kiev is to blame for everything. So the reckoning will come, the sowing proceeding from what is happening is completely failed, and what we will eat in the fall, we will go to the world or we will tearfully ask RUSSIA, and you did not go to the "farm, count butterflies"
      1. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 April 24 2014 11: 33
        +4
        Against this background, we need to increase the cultivated area, since one devil will have to feed Ukraine, even if in the form of humanitarian aid.
      2. Suvorov000
        Suvorov000 April 24 2014 11: 48
        +9
        Everything is correct as time approaches the winter period, then Europe will send everything in the woods, they will bring a gun to the temple of Ukraine with the words, just try to steal our gas, America will not help it far, and here we are)
      3. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf April 24 2014 14: 11
        +2
        Without a host (USA), Europe will not yap at Ukraine.
    2. comprochikos
      comprochikos April 24 2014 15: 26
      +1
      There, you look, and Europe will wave. We don’t have to poke. laughing
  3. Validator
    Validator April 24 2014 07: 38
    +44
    There are y-births.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 08: 00
      +10
      Quote: Validator
      There are y-births.

      Suit and glasses to the left and you can shoot the movie "Gemini 2"
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS April 24 2014 10: 02
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Suit and glasses to the left and you can shoot the movie "Gemini 2"

        Or is it more practical and cheaper to remove a suit and glasses from the one on the right?
        Hello, namesake!
    2. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 08: 22
      +6
      You should not be so, but what if this uncle has a rich inner world? wink although, Darwin, of course, a sucker
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 24 2014 09: 33
        +5
        On the word, a rich phrase must be chopped off.
        For cowards and traitors have only 30 pieces of silver for their souls ...
    3. pavel_SPB
      pavel_SPB April 24 2014 10: 42
      +1
      Excuse me, but who is this on the right on the deme ????
  4. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 24 2014 07: 45
    +27
    Prepare your sleigh in summer
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch April 24 2014 08: 00
      +6
      Let everybody sow peas laughing
      1. pavel_SPB
        pavel_SPB April 24 2014 10: 42
        0
        corn
        1. comprochikos
          comprochikos April 24 2014 15: 30
          +4
          In Asia, dried d.r.mom is drowned. Given the amount of this fuel in Kiev, it will be enough for the first time. laughing
  5. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 24 2014 07: 48
    +5
    Now Washington’s neck is the Kiev government, along with all its problems ...
    .. in the near future pleasant surprises await Russia on the diplomatic front.

    Thank you, Artyom. The coffee maker went well!
    And pin_dosam - "Deuce again"!
  6. smart Fox
    smart Fox April 24 2014 07: 49
    +11
    Europe is firmly on the "gas needle" and will not get off in the near future. But Europe admits this, while Ukraine is on the gas needle, denies this and pretends that it is struggling with this addiction. Sorry. that the vocabulary is drug addiction, but it is so. For Ukraine, America is like a pseudo narcologist, doing something, but everything is not right. A dose is still required!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 24 2014 08: 57
      +9
      Quote: Sly Fox
      Ukraine sits on a gas needle, it denies and pretends to be struggling with this addiction

      Well, Pridan so cheerfully declared about "a 4-way meeting with the participation of Slovakia, and there is also someone from Europe, Ukraine and Russia, where the question (ultimatum) about the unacceptable gas price will be raised again ... and then it turned out that there will be no meeting, because no one in Europe or in Russia was going to attend it! laughing
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 24 2014 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Sly Fox
        Ukraine sits on a gas needle, it denies and pretends to be struggling with this addiction

        Well, Pridan so cheerfully declared about "a 4-way meeting with the participation of Slovakia, and there is also someone from Europe, Ukraine and Russia, where the question (ultimatum) about the unacceptable gas price will be raised again ... and then it turned out that there will be no meeting, because no one in Europe or in Russia was going to attend it! laughing

        Such a thought often visits me.
        That Ukraine is a US project, but ........
        The United States does not want to pay money, but wants to get the country for free. (As bankers did in their time, they bring it to bankruptcy and then buy for a penny.) And in this regard, Yaitsenyukh's words about the "kamikaze government" fit into the theory. All of these (the right sector, freedom) are just a tool. But the program of the collapse and bankruptcy of the country is completely in the hands of the government and the acting president. The management of the country is stupid to boil down to Russophobia. And in this difficult hour for the country everything is done to go bankrupt. There is not even a mention about some kind of anti-crisis program, everything is directly reduced to loans ..........
    2. comprochikos
      comprochikos April 24 2014 15: 35
      0
      Quote: Sly Fox
      America for Ukraine as a pseudo narcologist

      Rather, a psychoanalyst. Washes the brain and tells tales. And you still want to eat.
  7. sledge
    sledge April 24 2014 07: 54
    +1
    Some dubious conclusions. Europe will not take a single decisive step in matters of reverse gas supplies. But how did http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/15/reverse/ Germany begin reverse gas supplies to Ukraine?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 08: 01
      +4
      Quote: Sanya
      Some dubious conclusions.

      All these deliveries are more likely a PR company than reality. Who will pay for gas?
      1. sledge
        sledge April 24 2014 09: 07
        0
        The people of Ukraine will pay for gas after receiving IMF loans.
        1. Hamul
          Hamul April 24 2014 09: 41
          +2
          Are you sure that Ukraine, in its current position, will pay for gas?
        2. I do not care
          I do not care April 24 2014 10: 40
          +16
          Quote: Sanya
          The people of Ukraine will pay for gas after receiving IMF loans.
        3. pavel_SPB
          pavel_SPB April 24 2014 10: 44
          +1
          Something seems to me that this loan from the IMF to the people will not reach
        4. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 April 24 2014 11: 35
          0
          First tell me which pipe this reverse will be carried out?
        5. comprochikos
          comprochikos April 24 2014 15: 39
          0
          The IMF will pay for gas, and Ukraine will pay with America in kind.
        6. Berkut-UA
          Berkut-UA April 25 2014 08: 10
          0
          It was only a loan promise.
          And they will be able to single out for actions to kill the country's economy,
          as they have done more than once with Eastern European countries.

          And in fact, in Ukraine they say-obyazyanki-chyatsyanka, that is, do not believe these promises ...
    2. nicollider
      nicollider April 24 2014 08: 25
      +5
      I also have a feeling that this is more PR, and even if so. This will continue until the first default. Politics, politics, but they know how to count money there
  8. Chifka
    Chifka April 24 2014 07: 54
    +7
    It’s time for the states to again provide humanitarian assistance to Ukraine. Only not dry land, but stove stoves. And empty barrels for bonfires. And to harvest old unnecessary furniture and other wood for winter. And then they will die over the winter. Banderlog is not a pity, but they will survive, and ordinary people will suffer because of a group of De-bills in power.
  9. awg75
    awg75 April 24 2014 07: 54
    +11
    the main thing is not to let Ukraine steal our gas again. in case of theft, IMMEDIATELY close the gas pipeline and let Europe deal with them. those who are not brothers to us not from our Motherland or from our mother should have NO freebies from us - even if they dig wells in every garden in their snuffled Western Ukraine
    1. avt
      avt April 24 2014 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: awg75
      the main thing is not to let Ukraine steal our gas again. in case of theft, immediately close the gas pipeline

      Immediately or not, the question is tactical, but the fact that the dried-up canal in the Crimea showed is quite a preparation for justification for disconnecting from the gas nipple. A kind of warning about the red line, note - the video on TV appeared in synchronization with Lavrov’s rather tough and confident statement about the possibility the use of our troops, and he clearly indicated the scale and boundaries of this operation, saying that it would be similar to the South Ossetian conflict. So it would be better for the pastor and Yaytsenyuha to pump water for money and pay for gas - it will be healthier.
      1. Hamul
        Hamul April 24 2014 09: 44
        +1
        Most likely, after the speech of S. Lavrov, Yaytsenyuk and the current government need to book flights to an independent USA or prepare ties.
        Georgia had at least some semblance of an army, nevertheless some of our tanks did not reach Tbilisi only a few tens of kilometers (a friend showed me his photo with a "lost tank" and a pointer)
  10. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 24 2014 08: 05
    +6
    Okay, whoever has their own house will still have firewood. But what about anthills? It will be fun to watch 9-story hedgehogs with protruding chimneys laughing But freedom of speech and democracy will prevail laughing laughing
    Nothing, hunger and cold will make these Maidan Downs more sober in their reasoning and actions.
  11. Sars
    Sars April 24 2014 08: 11
    +9
    Eurocoach gas will be delivered by America. Biden flew in - grabbed a few balloons with him (one truth Timosheka stole).
    1. pavel_SPB
      pavel_SPB April 24 2014 10: 47
      +5
      excuse me, let's be tolerant ::::: at the Evrokhokhly !!!!!! and dill :)))))
      1. mira. 36
        mira. 36 April 24 2014 20: 50
        0
        cool comparison ...
  12. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs April 24 2014 08: 20
    +5
    How America without the support of Europeans will pull Ukraine out of the quagmire remains unknown.


    Do not tell my sneakers! Pull Ukraine out of the quagmire ?! USA?! What the hell is that? They are very successful in their field. The rest of Ukraine will be SUCH beggars and SUCH anti-Russian, that Poland is resting.
  13. shelva
    shelva April 24 2014 08: 46
    +1
    If only the situation were not repeated in which, with the outbreak of war with the West, the sending of bread to the West continued.
  14. Balaganov
    Balaganov April 24 2014 08: 47
    0
    And if we throw their hats
  15. mamont5
    mamont5 April 24 2014 08: 59
    +3
    “Poland, Slovakia and Hungary are not going to denounce the agreements with Gazprom in order to satisfy the whims of the newly-minted Ukrainian government: after all, these are contracts worth several billion dollars, and Western Europe will disapprove of the termination of such important agreements for it. may not last two months - is it worth it to refuse cooperation with Gazprom? "

    Sun is right. Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart. And what was Ukraine counting on? That for the sake of her tricks Europe will infringe on itself in something.
  16. ed65b
    ed65b April 24 2014 08: 59
    +2
    And yesterday, an American ukurok announced that he would make New California from Ukraine. there in the course of everything all eb..ls finally and irrevocably.
    1. smart Fox
      smart Fox April 24 2014 12: 46
      +1
      Maybe they can swing the laughing gas into the pipe, they will all smile at once, just like in America.
  17. SSR
    SSR April 24 2014 08: 59
    +1
    The most "cool" thing is that the American State Department, by transferring only a few million Bachinsky, can control the entire top of Ukraine, and the Europeans cannot)))) because the interests of Europeans and Americans are at odds.
  18. Agent 008
    Agent 008 April 24 2014 09: 04
    +14
    The bins of Ukraine are slowly filling up ...
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 April 24 2014 11: 19
      +3
      "Ukraine" and "steal" the same root words?
      1. Rostislav
        Rostislav April 24 2014 12: 56
        +2
        Life proves that "Yes".
      2. radar1967
        radar1967 April 25 2014 04: 02
        +1
        Thank you brother! Finally, the mysterious mystery of the origin of ancient ukrov has been uncovered. The word U.K.R.Y. (Old Ukrainian) - comes from the word U.K.R.A.T.T. (Old Russian). Consequently, we can conclude that prostitution was not the most ancient profession in the territory of modern Little Russia.
  19. sledge
    sledge April 24 2014 09: 10
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    there in the course of everything all eb..ls finally and irrevocably.

    And there were doubts about this?
  20. P-38
    P-38 April 24 2014 09: 16
    +1
    Most likely, in the near future pleasant surprises await Russia on the diplomatic front.

    It seems true, most likely, a lot will change this year. For us, for Russia, it will change very well
  21. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 24 2014 09: 25
    +4
    Europeans are ready to endure any tricks of the ex-prisoner, but on condition that they do not touch the interests of Europe and remain an internal affair of Ukraine.

    One would like to say: liberalists. Modern European and American politics amaze me with their absurdly stupid deceit. At present, apart from the Jews in power, I can’t explain this in any way.
    "Deceive your neighbor, for he will deceive you and rejoice."
    http://topwar.ru/43529-o-sionizme-vo-francii-i-silah-protivodeystviya-emu.html
    The change of head of the French government took place on March 31, when the World Jewish Congress (EJC) began in Paris, calling itself the "diplomatic hand of the Jewish people." It is curious that the meetings of the congress by the leading French media were not covered. Congressional leaders, including the French, David de Rothschild and President of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France (CRIF) Roger Kucirman, said in a press release that they welcomed the struggle of the new Prime Minister Waltz against anti-Semitism and considered those measures to restrict freedom of speech to be legitimate, which they were accepted. Francois Hollande also praised the CEC

    Such unanimity once again confirmed the proximity of the President of France and the new French Prime Minister to the international Zionist lobby... Manuel Waltz plays a special role here. He has extensive connections with organizations, including not only CRIF, the main lobbying structure of French Jewry, but also the American Jewish Committee (AEK), the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Zionist organization European Leadership Network (ELNET), created in 2007 and lobbying the interests of the Israeli business community in Europe.

    This, probably, can be said not only about France
    .
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 24 2014 09: 31
    +4
    Everything is just beginning ... Therefore, for some time now, I have been completely indifferent to "hot" news from the Square. Because it is clear that now a new political map of influences in Europe is being cut out, and this is not a quick matter.
  23. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 24 2014 09: 35
    0
    In my opinion, the author of the article is either mistaken or deliberately misleads readers.
    And discussions about the interests of Americans in Ukraine and Europe are ridiculous and not adequate to the current moment.

    As far as European capitals are concerned, things are even worse for Washington: the United States cannot dictate to powerful Western European countries how they should build their foreign policy. The levers of America's influence on Europe are lost even after the end of the Cold War, when the need to contain the “red threat” disappeared.
  24. mig31
    mig31 April 24 2014 09: 36
    +1
    If the junta releases gas from itself, I think it’s enough for them to escape ...
  25. pensioner
    pensioner April 24 2014 09: 55
    +1
    In the light of all the events that are taking place, it is even somehow strange that the Ukrainian rulers have not yet announced their intention to build the US-Zhmerinka transoceanic gas pipeline, which will fully ensure Ukraine's fuel independence from Russia at the expense of shale gas ...
  26. Lyton
    Lyton April 24 2014 10: 05
    +1
    Recently I listened to the FM broadcast on radio, so there the expert said that the mattresses want to get out of Ukraine, but they need to do this without losing their face, I am inclined to this version, they don’t give a damn about the heads' eggs, and the people will suffer if they are independent, and maybe we will pay our government’s attempts to save the situation in this region, I don’t knowingly mention the country, it is no longer there.
  27. mackonya
    mackonya April 24 2014 10: 07
    +1
    Now time is working against the newly-made "Kiev authorities", of course everyone knows what will happen in the end. For Ukraine there is only one "lifeline" - this is Russia and the longer this assistance is refused, the worse it will be for the people of Ukraine, unless, of course, the whole of Ukraine does not throw off the current "pseudo-power".
  28. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 24 2014 10: 09
    +9
    In my opinion, Russia in the gas war has all the levers and unlimited possibilities.
    It’s enough to wait and Polite green men in Ukraine will not be needed.
    After gas interruptions in Europe through the fault of Kiev, Merkel will personally go to Donetsk to distribute cookies so that the Donetsk people throw off the junta in Kiev. Moscow will only have to watch.
    Yes, Yulkin’s camera needs to be expanded, she will return there for a long time and not one.
    1. Not angry
      Not angry April 24 2014 11: 02
      +2
      Quote: Gagarin
      Yes, Yulkin’s camera needs to be expanded, she will return there for a long time and not one.


      These pogans in a place with ovic partners to drive into an abandoned mine and walled, so that their spirit was not on the planet. And science will be different. hi
  29. dimitris
    dimitris April 24 2014 10: 28
    +2
    in the near future pleasant surprises await Russia on the diplomatic front

    Would already be sooner...
  30. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 24 2014 10: 38
    +1
    For a hike, the topic "Ukraine, gas, payment, supplies" will not leave sites and news topics soon
  31. Not angry
    Not angry April 24 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is in the dew.
  32. terrible
    terrible April 24 2014 11: 05
    0
    Why dill gas at all? the dream of every hoh.la - so that the hog is hooting! Why do they need the industry, let them breed pigs! To hold out until the launch of the "South Stream", and there it is too bold to send "Square"! hoho.l. if you have not stolen something, then the night sleeps badly!
    1. Zverboy
      Zverboy April 24 2014 18: 01
      0
      Eco, how terrible are you ... Or did you get this diarrhea from a hangover?
  33. pvn53
    pvn53 April 24 2014 11: 38
    +2
    Most likely, in the near future pleasant surprises await Russia on the diplomatic front.

    I’d rather wait
  34. Rostislav
    Rostislav April 24 2014 12: 52
    +1
    I can't wait for the GDP to decide to put a bullet point in the current situation by transferring the junta to prepayment for gas. Those themselves are pushing for this. The water supply to Crimea was cut off. How shoud I understand this? Like the call to "end us quickly"?
  35. tnship2
    tnship2 April 24 2014 13: 01
    +2
    It's time to switch to prepayment for gas and pickup.
  36. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov April 24 2014 13: 22
    +1
    I pay 1000 for 3 gas and 90 dollars, I would not want to pay 480))) here are hohlodebili and, as they generally think, what should 200 turn into 480))) are shameless, and Americans remind me of Robinson Crusoe, remember it for a year I built a corral for goats from a stockade of logs, and when I finished it was fucked up))) the corral was so huge that if I let goats out there, then how to catch it ??? So the United States)) in the process, they are like a shark while he stirs up Th - lives, but when he stops, he dies!
  37. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 24 2014 13: 27
    +2
    If Ukraine cannot pay for gas, let him pay it by barter. That is, let him receive as much as he will give Crimea electricity and water, in repayment of debts. Crimea pays for water and electricity, and a lot.
  38. Lone wolf
    Lone wolf April 24 2014 13: 54
    +1
    "Kiev and Moscow and do not want a repetition of these events, which are for everyone (except Ukraine) turned into huge losses. " I like it)
  39. vik669
    vik669 April 24 2014 14: 33
    0
    The story of the theft of gas by Ukraine began in the eighties and still continues (they are not capable of anything else, it is for those who are going to have some business with them besides Russia).
  40. miasoman
    miasoman April 24 2014 14: 58
    +1
    God grant that this America would have already "fallen off" and people could live and work in peace.
  41. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 24 2014 16: 29
    -1
    They stole, they steal and will steal, we need the South and North streams for air, there is no money from theft in Ukraine, except to shut off the pipe and the tap to brew completely. This is an action among Ukrainians in the blood.
  42. miha.ru
    miha.ru April 24 2014 16: 48
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    I don’t know, but in my opinion gas is the biggest lever of pressure on Europe in the hands of Moscow, because Europe sits right now on a gas eagle, twist it whatever you want, but Putin knows this lever for the most important moment in European life!
  43. _my opinion
    _my opinion April 24 2014 17: 18
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    Such an offer - give Naftogaz to Gazprom...for debts.
    Unless, of course, Naftogaz is worth the accumulated debt ....
    1. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 25 2014 08: 19
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      Naftogaz with all the equipment can be pulled by 15 - 20% of the debt
      What about the rest?
      Are areas calculated? wink
  44. wanderer
    wanderer April 24 2014 18: 52
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    this garlic!
  45. Arkan
    Arkan April 24 2014 19: 40
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    The United States took too much upon themselves, completely not caring about how they were going to implement their plans.


    Here everything is as usual, blah, blah, blah and zero action. Americans tore up the navel, as much as the hernia got out (Ukraine).
  46. Stinger
    Stinger April 24 2014 19: 42
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    What are we to fuss about? For several decades there has not been a single case of disruption of gas supplies to customers in Europe. Associated with the improvement of democracy in Ukraine, let them now bother with it. States are more bewildering. They also promised to work out sanctions. And Ukraine’s debts will have to be paid for by the great under-integrated European Union of underdeveloped states, led by developed Germany. Cookies are not enough.
  47. Akulina
    Akulina April 24 2014 19: 53
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    "... however, they refuse to shoot at the civilian population ..." - they no longer refuse ...
  48. tnk1969
    tnk1969 April 24 2014 20: 07
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    If Europe and America are all rejoicing for the uninterrupted supply of gas to Europe and want to protect themselves from threats in Ukraine, then this is their way out. Let European countries consuming Russian gas form an insurance guarantee fund under Russian control. They will also attract US funds to this fund. The fund will be created in the amount of annual gas consumption by Ukraine at a price of 500 US dollars per 1000 cubic meters. And if Ukraine does not pay on time for the delivered gas, then Russia will be compensated for losses from this fund. And then it will be possible to forget about the advance payment for gas from Ukraine. And also about the participation of Gazprom in the Ukrainian gas transportation system.
    I think that this idea makes sense at least for discussion.
  49. Cristall
    Cristall April 25 2014 00: 25
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    what will be what will be .. the sponsor is not e (mat) t this is fully.
    There will be problems with Europe, well, maybe well. And if problems are undesirable - they will put pressure on puppets. They will quickly stop - shift the debt to the budget, close the chemical prom production (there is no metallurgy - since the Kolomoisk metallurgical one is also a sponsor) and others, in particular, they will redirect their own gas flows to the industry - reducing the supply to the population .. in short, there are darkness . And so that the EU does not complain and rot Ukraine.
    All sorts of deterioration will be beneficial - when a person is hungry and angry - he, oh, how he begins to be indignant at the "policy of the Kremlin" - which the media will surely tell about. In general, whipping up Russophobic ideas under the general hunger will go great. The most sober will leave Ukraine - there will be hungry and angry maydanutye - who will joke with the "damned" and take revenge on everyone and everything .. And there is still someone and where in Ukraine to take revenge.
  50. Ruslan 56
    Ruslan 56 April 25 2014 11: 12
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    After all, the “gas princess” Yulia Tymoshenko was released, and people from her party “Fatherland” control all key government posts. Despite the chaos and dictatorship of the nationalists, a woman with a scythe will not fail to take advantage of the happiness that has fallen on her, and she will certainly try to organize new frauds, including with gas.