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Suspicion fixation

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According to The New York Times, the militias in the south-east of Ukraine are the Russian military. However, the moment of guessing who exactly is in the territory of Eastern Ukraine is not even in the second, but in the tenth place. And in the first place is a political settlement and how it is carried out.

On Sunday, April 20, the American newspaper The New York Times published an article entitled “The photos indicate masked people in eastern Ukraine and Russia”. It argues that armed supporters of federalization in eastern Ukraine are related to Russia.

“For two weeks, mysterious, well-armed people, called“ green men, ”seized administrative buildings, stirring up separatist unrest. The Kremlin has denied many times that there is a secret invasion of the Russian forces, ”the authors of the article, journalists Andrew Higgins, Michael R. Gordon and Andrew E. Kramer, point out.

“Now, the photos and descriptions that came from eastern Ukraine, and on Sunday recommended by the Obama administration, suggest4 that many of the“ green men ”are really Russian military and intelligence officers,” the publication says. The equipment is like that of Russian special forces in the Crimea, some are “identified on other 1 photos clearly made surrounded by Russian military in other places,” the authors report.

According to the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), a Russian is in the ranks of the "green men" - Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, an employee of the GRU. “They say that he has a long track record of serving as an illegal in the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, recently in Crimea in February and March, and now in the city of Slavyansk and its suburbs in eastern Ukraine,” writes The New York Times.

“There is a wide consensus in the international community about Russia's connection with some of the armed militants in eastern Ukraine, and the photos submitted by Ukrainians last week only further confirm this. That is why US officials continue to justify this opinion, ”said Jen Psaki, the State Department spokesman, on Sunday.

Suspicion fixation


The New York Times states: “direct evidence of the“ hands of Russia ”in Eastern Ukraine is contained in a dossier of photographs that Ukraine submitted to the NUMX in the OSCE.”

“These are photographs of unidentified armed men, made in Eastern Ukraine, and an earlier photograph, where, it seems, the same people appear in the group picture of servicemen of some part in Russia,” the article says. The same armed man, possibly captured in pictures in the Crimea and Slavyansk. “On another photo is a portly bearded man 1, photographed in Slavyansk on April 14, dressed in a camouflage uniform without insignia, but 6 had been photographed years before during the Russian invasion of Georgia with a Russian special forces patch on the left sleeve,” the American newspaper writes.

In the publication of The New York Times there is a moment that casts doubt on the veracity of the stated version. The authors refer to as one of the evidence for an audio recording, previously distributed by the SBU. According to the Security Service of Ukraine, this is an intercepted conversation between Russian agents in eastern Ukraine, including a certain person nicknamed “Strelok” and their boss in Russia.

The SBU believes that these materials indicate that “in the eastern part of Ukraine there is a large-scale military aggression of the Russian Federation, which is carried out by the GRU reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the general staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation,” the ministry’s press service reported.

Commenting on this conclusion, a source in the Russian Ministry of Defense told RIA “NewsThat the entry published by the Security Service of Ukraine is fabricated. “Not only the authors of this opus, but also their puppeteers would like to better teach the material part and instruction on intelligence. And such slang, which is used in the “super-interception”, was used only by the pioneers in the game “Zarnitsa”, ”the agency’s source said.

If other evidence, allegedly presented by the OSCE mission, is covered with white threads, it can be assumed that the publication in The New York Times is part of the game, perhaps the American special services. It is possible that this game is associated with a visit to Ukraine by 21 on April, Vice-President of the USA Joseph Biden. According to the official version, Biden will discuss with the local authorities the situation in the east of the country, issues of decentralization and constitutional reform, as well as energy independence. But perhaps one of the goals of the visit is to find out how realistic it is to weaken Russia's position with regard to the Ukrainian conflict. In this case, evidence of the involvement of the Russian Federation in the events in the east of Ukraine play2 Biden on hand.

Indeed, in this case Russia bears image losses. Then they lose the persuasiveness and tough position of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that it is Kiev that is disrupting the implementation of the agreements reached in Geneva at a meeting of representatives of the United States, the European Union, Russia and Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin appears in a completely different light, who during the “straight line” declared that “there are no Russian units in the east of Ukraine, no special services, no instructors, these are all local citizens”.

To figure out what is really behind the publication in The New York Times, we interviewed our experts.

A former employee of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation who, as part of an investigative team, took part in uncovering resonant terrorist attacks in Moscow:

- This is a fake, and so frank that in The New York Times were forced to use low-quality photos. If you directly “identify the bearded man from Slavyansk” on Google, the very first link to the Ukrainian site gives an article with a better picture of the same bearded men. In normal quality, it is clear that supposedly the same bearded man is two completely different people. They are just like having a beard.

The bearded man from Slavyansk is given in several angles - he posed: in profile, in front, in every way. A bearded man, who allegedly stands surrounded by Russian troops, appears to be an employee of the Chechen battalion "Vostok". On large photos, it is really clear that he is surrounded by Chechens, and he himself, if you look closely, is not of a standard Slavic appearance, but rather of a Chechen one - this is the type of Chechens.

The other two people who are circled in the New York Times cannot be identified at all - there are no facial features in the photographs. It can be assumed that if the identification could be done, at least approximately, The New York Times would publish the highest quality photos - especially since they are publicly available.

On arms nothing can be said on the pictures at all. In the photo, where people allegedly seen in Slavyansk appear in the photo allegedly from another place and another time (and it is not known where it came from) - it is not clear who is with what weapon.

In a word, this is a clean throw, calculated on the absence of even minimal criticism from the audience. It is noteworthy that the image of the main person involved in the article - a certain Strelkov - is completely absent. Therefore, it is very difficult to talk about the identification of such a character - given the denial of its existence by the Russian side.

The record of allegedly intercepting a conversation with the "Strelkom", which the SBU distributed, is a rough gluing. It can be compared with the authentic interception of conversations of snipers who worked on the Maidan. There is a completely different slang, approach, manner of talking. Even in terms of the nature of speech, one can understand that professionals are talking on Independence, with each other and in business. And the record in which the "Shooter" appears is some kind of kindergarten.

As we see, the article in The New York Times refers to information that, with minimal criticism, reveals a complete inconsistency with reality. It’s not that every single proof has no weight, but even their totality speaks of a total informational forgery ...

Sergey Utkin, Head of the Department of Strategic Assessments of the Center for Situational Analysis of the Russian Academy of Sciences:

- This история curious in terms of the yellow press and the general public, but not politics. Just in this case, the 1 in the genre of yellow press - due to circumstances - are the leading US newspapers.

In fact, the Eastern Ukrainian "Zarnitsa" does not play a key role. We draw political conclusions about the prospects for resolving the Ukrainian conflict, based not on whether a particular person is in Eastern Ukraine. Establishing such a fact changes little. And the key issue - from the point of view of the Russian impact on the situation - is that Russia does not recognize the legitimacy of the Kiev authorities.

If - from the point of view of official Russia - Ukraine, in fact, does not exist as a state (the previous state collapsed, and the new was not created), anything can happen in the eastern regions. For example, self-organization of people - with or without Russian participation.

Yes, there are negotiations at the ministerial level between Russia and Ukraine, but their status is unclear.

In this situation, an attempt by the West to convict Russia of something is not constructive. Even if irrefutable evidence of the presence of Russians in the East will be presented, the West may receive an answer in the spirit of rather harsh statements. Like, so what? It's just that people help local people get organized. As an option - help to safely hold a referendum.

But, I repeat, the moment of guessing who exactly is in the territory of Eastern Ukraine is not even in the second, but in the tenth place. And in the first place is a political settlement - the way it is implemented, or not implemented. This is much more important than fixing suspicions.

If tomorrow, or a few days later, there is a clear signal from the Russian side that Moscow recognizes the Kiev government, and recognizes the results of the May elections (which are now an incomprehensible event for Russia, whose status is being eroded by Viktor Yanukovych’s statements), the situation will change drastically. I think, in this case, the Ukrainian government will have enough political resource to reach the people in the East, who are now trying to play the title role. Talk to them and make a decision. In this case (Moscow’s recognition of the Kiev authorities), residents of eastern Ukraine will understand that they have no alternative options other than dialogue with Kiev.

But with the Russian policy we are witnessing today, the East has a million alternative options. And in order to go on serious negotiations with the Kiev authorities, to go to the decision to hold a referendum or to participate in the presidential elections, there are no reasons for the East.

On the contrary, Russian policy convinces Eastern Ukraine that it is worthwhile for some time to fill its price, to demonstrate that Left-Bank Ukraine1 has an independent potential.

The main process is in the search for legitimate centers of power in order to understand with whom and for what reason we can talk. Everything else is curious at the level of the average man and spy novels, but no more.

Sergey Goncharov, President of the Association of Veterans of the Alpha anti-terror unit:

- I’ll add to the publication of The New York Times: allegedly the Americans, Turchinov and Yatsenyuk have evidence that the Russian 45 landing regiment operates in eastern Ukraine. From my point of view, all this - stuffing information.
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  1. Validator
    Validator April 24 2014 07: 37
    +23
    No pigs allowed
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 April 24 2014 07: 40
      -11%
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/566/vkxy870.jpg
      1. sv68
        sv68 April 24 2014 13: 40
        +6
        igor39-your comparison is at least stupid as max-obscure and inappropriate
  2. fedor13
    fedor13 April 24 2014 07: 37
    +3
    Definitely give out our eyes, they are kind. :)
    1. COLUN
      COLUN April 24 2014 09: 10
      +10
      Here is the Video, as they say, in the topic of the article (though it is a solid anti-Soviet):
      At 2:20 ATTENTION! ZI-ZI TOP in the Donbas!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 24 2014 16: 04
        +3
        ... We will give 100 T-72 tanks from NATO warehouses ...
        We already gave, and the Russians took everything away and drive in the parking lot at the grocery ... 3:20
        laughing good
      2. maximus235
        maximus235 April 24 2014 22: 09
        +2
        AAA! Rzhunimagu ... ZZ-Top in Ukraine wassat
      3. Nettle
        Nettle April 26 2014 23: 21
        0
        Well, a normal video)))
  3. Zaslavsky-S
    Zaslavsky-S April 24 2014 07: 40
    +8
    It's time to end this freak circus.
  4. Fedya Sukhov
    Fedya Sukhov April 24 2014 07: 45
    +12
    Nah! This is definitely a fake! Because there are no cats in the photo! Our brave, smart and polite cats! laughing
    1. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p April 24 2014 07: 57
      +12
      Yeah ... Judging by the Ops-Core FAST helmets, it's generally Americans wassat
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov April 24 2014 08: 35
        +6
        Fna last photo only the suspension is the same, the shape and weapons are completely different! And at least the proof is incredibly weak! With their capabilities they could have been better cooked up.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 24 2014 09: 14
          +13
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          But the proof is incredibly weak! They could have been better cooked up with their capabilities.

          Yes, even such a loyal Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from "Batkivshchyna" Gennady, and then "exploded" He took it and said:
          "Kiev" Berkut "could not shoot so many (activists), absolutely could not," he expressed his point of view. In addition, he considers the statements of the SBU about the involvement of foreign snipers in the shooting of protesters on the Independence Square unprofessional. "This is complete nonsense," the deputy said. ь considers the allegedly intercepted telephone conversations of the employees of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, published by the SBU, as a complete profanation. He noted that real intelligence officers never, under any circumstances, give names and do not speak about their involvement in any crimes, indicating dates and specific geographical names.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-144057.html
          XXXX
          what a shock in the parliament was! - nice to see!
          1. Gray 43
            Gray 43 April 24 2014 10: 58
            +3
            Let the man go, he saw
          2. allexx83
            allexx83 April 24 2014 23: 09
            +2
            Gennady M. o.s.k.a.l. - generally rare fuf.lo.met. Either "Berkut", now not "Berkut", then in general "Alpha" napalm (!) The House of Trade Unions burned down. In short -. The Byutovites probably have the following selection criterion laughing The shizanutey - the higher in the hierarchy. Turchinov - Level 99 Troll wassat
        2. igor_m_p
          igor_m_p April 24 2014 10: 31
          +4
          Considering that in the bottom photo from Slavyansk the guy just got something from the M16 / M4 family, this is certainly Russian special forces. Where is our special forces without M16 ...
          1. The point
            The point April 24 2014 13: 50
            +3
            just flaunting trophies already. soldier
        3. APASUS
          APASUS April 24 2014 19: 26
          +1
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          ! And at least the proof is incredibly weak! With their capabilities they could have been better cooked up.

  5. tormazok
    tormazok April 24 2014 07: 47
    +4
    Directly not "refutable" evidence, I too can use PHOTOSHOP and I can reformat the Obamka from a black monkey into a white one laughing
    1. Kite
      Kite April 24 2014 11: 23
      +2
      Quote: tormazok
      I can reformat a frame from a black monkey to white

      and give him donkey ears.
  6. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus April 24 2014 07: 49
    +6
    For 96 years the southeast has been visiting Ukraine and it seems he’s tired of it! Welcome home Little Russia!
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 11: 10
      +4
      Malorossa is just Ukraine, and Dombass is New Russia (read the story), although even Peter 1 tried to mine coal in the Donbas, the Turks prevented it.
  7. BlackJack
    BlackJack April 24 2014 07: 53
    +8
    О О American photographs and newspapers and magazines are the most honest and incorruptible and objective and fair and free and democratic and tolerant and ... and ... ALLAH AKBAR !!!!!!! laughing laughing
    hi bill soaked
    1. Bodrov
      Bodrov April 24 2014 13: 15
      +9
      ALLAH AKBAR!!!!!!! laughing laughing

      A man at a Washington airport yells to his wife:
      - Alla, I'm at the bar!
      And 2000 Americans laid in their pants
  8. Strashila
    Strashila April 24 2014 07: 56
    +11
    From these statements it is not realistic to conclude that the GRU is working there, but active coverage of this moment in the American press and statements by representatives of the State Department state that the CIA is working in full.
  9. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 24 2014 07: 59
    +5
    Yes, let them fuck whatever they want. I spoke and say: the shuffle barks - the wind carries. All these Washington p ... st, G.D.I.A.N and others are controlled by their governments. There are our "polite little men" - great! It means that less blood will be shed among civilians and more - pravosek. Read the appendix to the law "On Veterans" where and how many our military took part in the 20th century. So, I repeat, if our Armed Forces are present in Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, albeit behind the scenes, this is for the best.
  10. SILAnov
    SILAnov April 24 2014 08: 08
    +6
    Well, even if it is special forces from Russia, so what ??? Specialists from Russia, counteract specialists from the United States ... "Every action gives rise to opposition" SchA will overfill amers, everything will settle down! soldier
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 24 2014 09: 17
      +6
      Quote: SILAnov
      Specialists from Russia, counteracting specialists from the USA

      And something reminds me of a man with a beard of Fidel! repeat Maybe the Americans were afraid that he decided to shake antiquity? wink
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 24 2014 18: 12
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        And something reminds me of a man with a beard of Fidel!

        And I’m Ivan Susanin! Maybe he brought somewhere, 20 missing in Ukraine, Americans? laughing
      2. Mih
        Mih April 24 2014 23: 27
        0
        But it really reminds Fidel.
        Cuba - my love, do you hear Barbudos?
        Cuba - si, yankee.
  11. vch62388
    vch62388 April 24 2014 08: 16
    +3
    The President has the right to use the Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine. This has been announced for a long time to the whole world. Even if we assume that our military is there - this is only for the better, less blood will be shed. And to advertise these facts or not is the business of politicians. Lavrov said: "There are facts - show me." So far, apart from outright delirium, nothing has been heard from Kiev. And the head of the SVR (unlike the head of the CIA) was not caught by the hand during secret visits to Ukraine.
  12. cybernetick
    cybernetick April 24 2014 08: 17
    +3
    Among them, there are still Russian blacks, laughter and nothing more.
  13. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 24 2014 08: 17
    +4
    Americans .... go to hu .... tor.
  14. Semenov
    Semenov April 24 2014 08: 21
    +2
    The word "Little Russia" slipped through in Putin's speech, hence it will be. It remains to hear about "Slobozhanshchina" and further on the territories of the former Ukraine.
  15. fduch
    fduch April 24 2014 08: 29
    +2
    Well, actually there are ours, infa via lich channels from Kramatorsk, but it pleases bully
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 24 2014 09: 19
      +1
      Quote: fduch
      Well, actually there are ours,

      So you won’t hold back volunteers! BUT IT IS NOT THE ARMY OF RUSSIA! laughing
    2. Suhow
      Suhow April 25 2014 00: 27
      0
      As for the Russian specialists, they confirmed it to me (my husband’s relatives are in Kramatorsk) and said that among the armed people there are many former prisoners, etc. Only I think the cops would hardly cooperate with such a contingent, (the local Ministry of Internal Affairs) and the civilians didn’t help. But I think in this situation, the force method will only worsen the situation until the sabotage war, and even a large-scale civilian, Danish.
  16. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign April 24 2014 08: 49
    +5
    Every nonsense to comment - you can erase your fingers on the keyboard ...
  17. zmeigavrila
    zmeigavrila April 24 2014 09: 04
    +8
    Duncan MacLeod Russian special forces, lacking only his pictures from Vietnam, Korea and Berlin
    1. Mih
      Mih April 24 2014 23: 35
      0
      Duncan MacLeod - Yes, perhaps this should be considered. I like the way you think.
  18. rocketman
    rocketman April 24 2014 09: 31
    -7
    On April 22, over Slavyansk, the An-30 aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was fired at from machine guns. The radio operator was slightly wounded, the plane was damaged. The plane made aerial photography and had a civilian coloration, so it worked under the "Open Sky" contract.
    Who will answer the question - who fired at him? Peaceful protesters? Or trained people? Indeed, many people on the site know - to get from a machine into a plane flying at an altitude of 500 meters at a speed of 400 km / h, oh, how difficult it is. So who shot?
    1. Good cat
      Good cat April 24 2014 10: 43
      +5
      As if there were few specialists, now only Russian special forces can shoot from a machine gun ???
    2. fleks
      fleks April 24 2014 10: 45
      +8
      Well, why is it difficult to get on a plane flying on the same course if you let out the whole horn and take the lead? in World War II, a plane shot down by a mortar mine
    3. Kite
      Kite April 24 2014 11: 28
      +7
      Quote: rocketman
      The radio operator was slightly injured

      Is it already a day after the plane’s landing that the radio operator was injured? laughing laughing Yesterday they did not write about this, they reported only a few holes in the casing. So tomorrow they will tell that there were women and children on the plane, half of whom were seriously injured.
      1. The point
        The point April 24 2014 13: 54
        +1
        Quote: Kite
        Is it already a day after the plane’s landing that the radio operator was injured?

        and this is post-traumatic syndrome.
      2. Suhow
        Suhow April 25 2014 00: 36
        0
        we also have censorship and it won’t surprise me if today's possible losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have hidden. And these bottom ones will come up later.
    4. The point
      The point April 24 2014 13: 53
      0
      Quote: rocketman
      So who shot?

      probably Vasily Terkin. wassat
    5. Suhow
      Suhow April 25 2014 00: 30
      0
      10 fighters, for example 1-2 of them having training and experience.
  19. Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 April 24 2014 09: 37
    +4
    Quote: rocketman
    Who will answer the question - who fired at him? Peaceful protesters? Or trained people? Indeed, many people on the site know - to get from a machine into a plane flying at an altitude of 500 meters at a speed of 400 km / h, oh, how difficult it is. So who shot?


    You are a smaller Ukrop media read that lie so that Goebels would die of envy. I watch and read what they write and show in Ukraine - pure propaganda! Moreover, such a low grade that, as I understand it, Ukrainians are kept for sheep.
    The transfer of Savik Shuster, which goes on the First National, is a lie, a lie and nothing but a lie. You think to listen to smart people, and some talking heads are sitting.
  20. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 24 2014 09: 41
    +11
    Half of the photographs of the face are extremely neatly inserted and ototoshopiny.
    Well, blacks have already seen people without me.
    I alone noticed this ?!
  21. Victor-M
    Victor-M April 24 2014 09: 47
    +2
    According to the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), in the ranks of the "green men" is a Russian - Igor Ivanovich Shooters, GRU officer.
    Why not Kalashnikov, or at worst Anufriev, Ivanov.
    And in general, if the United States wants something, it is better to "give" it (in the sense of bending it) or "show", otherwise it is in a fit of aggravation schizophrenia She will invent and do everything herself, which, in principle, is happening now.
  22. Gorec79
    Gorec79 April 24 2014 09: 47
    +3
    Recently I saw a comparison of Rudolph Hess and Yatsenyuk, then the tractor and the commandant of the concentration camp, seemingly Auschwitz. there faces one to one!
  23. devor71
    devor71 April 24 2014 10: 11
    +2
    The comrade’s son is serving in the Airborne Forces Southern District! At the beginning of the week, the vests were taken away. They were given a uniform without insignia (Green men) But for now they remain in the places of deployment. Here you have the pendal and the prostitutes Bender
  24. Parabelum
    Parabelum April 24 2014 10: 18
    +8
    He led his own investigation and accurately identified
    1. Good cat
      Good cat April 24 2014 10: 44
      +4
      Oh, it’s like Carla Marx was, and his wife Friedrich Engels
      1. Mih
        Mih April 24 2014 23: 33
        0
        Or maybe not Fidel, but Carl? I'm all in doubt.
        Ah vaudeville, vaudeville ... Fortune telling the king?
        Oh, like Carla Marx was, and his wife
    2. The centurion
      The centurion April 24 2014 18: 48
      0
      Quote: Parabelum
      He led his own investigation and accurately identified

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/917/izxz915.jpg
  25. necha265
    necha265 April 24 2014 10: 20
    +1
    Amerikosovsky specialists gathered to work against the miners, and then suddenly an equal alternative came from Russia, it’s good that they weren’t mercenaries from Karakalpakstan bully (nationality is such a very militant) joke. angry All their life, specialists have worked against specialists, the law of life and no one has yet canceled it !! soldier
  26. Good cat
    Good cat April 24 2014 10: 41
    +5
    It's just sooooo funny, Grandfather Mazai in the photo is 100% the main Russian special forces soldier, he also saved hares. And the main "Russian saboteur in Ukraine Strelkov" has an operational pseudonym of course Shooter, while Russians have a bad fantasy)))) Nafotalis specially before sabotage-for memory. And the negros? Well, Americans can't do anything without blacks.))) They still trolled Kirkorov at the customs: "Why don't you have black musicians, are you racists?" Rzhunimagu. They don't even know. that blacks are not everywhere.)))
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 24 2014 16: 15
      +5
      Quote: Good cat
      operational alias course shooter

      and he (the shooter) took part in the creation of the Ukrainian toy "S.t.a.l.ke.r." (based on his memoirs) after all, it was he who turned off the "brain burner" and found the "wishmaker" ...
      Here is his photo from the l / d GRU GSh MO RF:
      1. maximus235
        maximus235 April 24 2014 22: 20
        +1
        There, his entire group recently materialized, and Besa even caught the SBU, apparently in vain he left Cordon. wait when they find Fang and Scar.
    2. Suhow
      Suhow April 25 2014 00: 44
      0
      it is Russian Negroes))) although I have never met Negroes fie African Americans in the Armed Forces of the former republics of the USSR, although it’s cool to spot them (Negroes) and turn them into Amers, how would they excuse themselves?
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 30 2014 23: 06
        0
        Quote: Suhow
        , although it’s cool to spot them (blacks)

        Like, and the mobilization of the Institute. Patrice Lumumba (Friendship of Peoples) ???
  27. Lavrov
    Lavrov April 24 2014 10: 42
    +2
    If the United States doesn’t seem, they will come up with, they will not come up with, they will justify and do so. It is better to be baptized when it seems, then the brains will brighten.
  28. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 24 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Well, everyone is so surprised, yes, we have a Negro at the GRU, and how many of them out of 20 were a military secret! One on the SVR works under the call sign "Bardak", and in general there are a dime a dozen Africans
  29. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx April 24 2014 11: 43
    +1
    no matter what they say, they understand very well that the May 25th election will not be recognized by Russia, they just don’t have any other options, that's comedy and breaks down with the hope that by 25 it might not be decided!
  30. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 24 2014 11: 56
    +3
    Idiocy squared. Well, Americans are stupid. Honor and Glory to the Russian special forces, when amers have to engage in such nonsense, that would supposedly "expose" the Russians. One can answer one thing, that if there were Russian special forces all the "Kiev rulers" would have long been in Washington or Lubyanka.
  31. Odessa55
    Odessa55 April 24 2014 13: 05
    -12%
    Here is your true face, brothers (former brothers) Russians! No need to protect the Southeast, we ourselves will figure it out on our land! From you in comments only dirt, but we also know how to fight. Flew like wolves, it's a shame that now we will be enemies! You have a lot of untruthful information about Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Z8ymyhx8A
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 24 2014 16: 12
      +5
      But on the "ukrapravda" about us, there is no dirt, right? Remind me "brother" what you call us there? We were musical! We sang all the time while "your" province was politely squeezed out. America is with us !!! Your motto for life! UGH !!! EXCEPT THE DESPISION OF YOUR CODE CANNOT CAUSE ANYTHING! GLORY to the USSR !!! soldier
    2. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 April 24 2014 16: 30
      +3
      Ukrainians WAKE UP? Go black sea deepen the sons and daughters of the Greek gods
  32. Bodrov
    Bodrov April 24 2014 13: 18
    +5
    It is useless to argue with fools; it is like playing chess with a pigeon. He will scatter all the pieces, shit on the board and fly away to brag about how he paid you.
  33. pechv
    pechv April 24 2014 14: 09
    +3
    They began to work unprofessionally, even the old well-established methods are forgotten. And where is the radio capture of the commander of a tank column moving to Tskhinval ... oh, to Lugansk. The flaw came out. And the team of Photoshop artists needs to be fired, the children would have done better, in the end they could have hired actors, after all, there is already experience and the picture would have been more realistic
  34. goose
    goose April 24 2014 14: 27
    +2
    Quote: devor71
    The comrade’s son is serving in the Airborne Forces Southern District! At the beginning of the week, the vests were taken away. They were given a uniform without insignia (Green men) But for now they remain in the places of deployment. Here you have the pendal and the prostitutes Bender

    I have read a letter in a letter several times already. Provocation?
  35. v-sorok
    v-sorok April 24 2014 14: 34
    +1
    Mattresses will soon be on their territory will look for our commandos!
  36. rocketman
    rocketman April 24 2014 15: 37
    0
    “Is it just a day after the plane landed, the radio operator was wounded? Yesterday they did not write about this, only a few holes in the casing were reported. So tomorrow they will tell that there were women and children on the plane, half of whom were seriously injured.
    You read less Ukropskie mass media, which lie so that Gebels would die of envy. I watch and read what they write and show in Ukraine - pure propaganda! And such a low grade that as I understand Ukrainians are held for sheep. "

    Hmm, quoting doesn't work for some reason. But I answer immediately to both.
    I do not watch Ukrainian, Russian, American news at all. Only sport.
    Regarding the wound of the radio operator-ensign. I read the report of the unit commander. The ensign is wounded in the leg. A bullet from below pierced the skin, soft tissues of the lower leg and hit the body armor, on which, in fact, the ensign was sitting. Therefore, he remained alive. For obvious reasons, that information did not get into the press.
    However, you all forget that this is a Ukrainian plane flying over Ukrainian territory, and such actions are unacceptable in any country. Or do you think that when helicopters fired and shot down in Chechnya, was this a normal situation? Doesn't it seem to YOU ​​that it smells very much of you with double standards, as it does of Americans. Then what is the difference between you?
    1. Suhow
      Suhow April 25 2014 00: 51
      0
      but helicopters also fly over Slavyansk until they shoot, and a checkpoint in the same city with the dead was fired from a helicopter. Moreover, there is reason to be afraid of flyers.
  37. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 24 2014 16: 06
    +2
    You don’t even need to hire actors - you can invite a team of airsoft players - they will have the appropriate uniform and weapons ...
  38. tomcat117
    tomcat117 April 24 2014 20: 34
    +1
    Quote: COLUN
    Here is the Video, as they say, in the topic of the article (though it is a solid anti-Soviet):
    At 2:20 ATTENTION! ZI-ZI TOP in the Donbas!

    The host forgot about the balalaika and vodka from the fighters, and of course the bears in helmets.
    In fact, it’s a very funny presenter, as Putin said he already piled up a bunch so hard.
    Well morons behind the scenes canned laughter on the application just touches.
    The audience level for those without brains does not even need to laugh and think, everything has already been done.
    The degradation is complete. Country of Freaks - USA.
  39. 1 Alexander 1
    1 Alexander 1 April 24 2014 20: 42
    +1
    Well, what is this West stupid !!! not really people believed in this duck, the quality of the photo is not what! and this is in our digital age ...
  40. minus
    minus April 24 2014 22: 33
    0
    I am a very peace-loving person, although I had to take away the lives of others at one time .... If not you, then you ... Maybe for this reason I was not so radical. But how much can you endure? I am ready to go to war and appeal to the leadership of Russia, to send troops to the territory of Ukraine. Ready to go in the forefront. Of course, I want to live still, put three sons on my feet, only I don’t have the strength to endure the tricks of the US proteges ..... Sorry, I can’t control my nerves anymore
  41. 16101955
    16101955 April 24 2014 22: 58
    0
    But Russian faces do not hide like banderlogs ..
  42. Mih
    Mih April 24 2014 23: 40
    0
    Quote: Gagarin
    Well, blacks have already seen people without me.


    Blacks are offended - they are black as both - we.
  43. DADA Kokelsgogel
    DADA Kokelsgogel April 25 2014 01: 46
    0
    If only someone would have been (oh, how he said!) At least from the "pensioners" of the army or special forces, it would be immediately obvious from the speed and efficiency of decision-making and the efficiency of work, in pinpoint strikes. Bandera will soon have a full meal ...
  44. rocketman
    rocketman April 25 2014 11: 01
    -1
    Quote: Minus
    I am a very peace-loving person, although I had to take away the lives of others at one time .... If not you, then you ... Maybe for this reason I was not so radical. But how much can you endure? I am ready to go to war and appeal to the leadership of Russia, to send troops to the territory of Ukraine. Ready to go in the forefront. Of course, I want to live still, put three sons on my feet, only I don’t have the strength to endure the tricks of the US proteges ..... Sorry, I can’t control my nerves anymore

    My sons are also growing up, and I don’t want to fight with you. But if you go to war with us, then I have to fight with you. Nobody has yet canceled the oath and duty. So think before you come - do we need it, kill each other? From the fact that Russians kill Russians, only Anglo-Saxons rejoice ....
  45. maximus235
    maximus235 April 25 2014 16: 18
    0
    Found on one site in kamenty:
    -What is your name?
    -I think so Jen Psaki
    -You think so?
    -In youtube they write that I am Jen Psaki, I think that I am Jen Psaki
    -Are you really dumb?
    -I'm not sure what I said so
    -Do you even read the comments about you on youtube?
    -There are any comments? The US State Department does not say anything about this
    -How did you get so brainless to live up to so many years?
    -I think I already answered this question
    -You have just shown Nikita Dzhigurd, do you know who Nikita Dzhigurd is?
    -Nikita Dzhigurda? no, but I think he’s connected with the Russians
    -Do you know that Nikita Dzhigurda is going to explain to you?
    -Explained? I'm not quite sure about that
    Goodbye Jen, goodbye!