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Are bloggers potential extremists?

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As reported RIA News, head of Roskomnadzor, Alexander Zharov, spoke in favor of the need to strengthen responsibility for using the media for extremist activity. In particular, he advocates administrative liability, expressed in serious administrative fines.


Are bloggers potential extremists?


In addition, before that, he expressed support for the bill passed on the eve of the State Duma in the third reading, equating popular bloggers with the media. Popular will be those bloggers whose pages are visited daily by more than 3 thousands of users. They will have to check the accuracy of the information, not violate civil law in terms of the dissemination of information and the private life of a citizen, follow the prohibitions and restrictions of electoral legislation and indicate age restrictions.

At the same time, a letter was received from the Chairperson of the Presidential Human Rights Council, Mikhail Fedotov, to Valentina Matvienko, asking him to reject this bill and create a commission to finalize it. The main argument was its inconsistency with the spirit and technical features of the modern Internet.

Thus, this question caused a discussion among the leaders of the structures directing the activities of the media.
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 23 2014 21: 58
    +5
    Control is needed everywhere, but unobtrusive.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU April 23 2014 22: 01
      +15
      The title of the article with a liberal flavor ... What a tragedy !!! Now write that beyond the Urals, Russia is not dangerous for personal freedom ...
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn April 23 2014 22: 46
        +10
        I read it and saw no sedition. The law is the law, and it does not matter where and how it is violated. "To check the accuracy of information, not to violate civil law in terms of disseminating information and the private life of a citizen, to follow the prohibitions and restrictions of electoral legislation and indicate age restrictions" must be any citizen of the Russian Federation and not only the Russian Federation - all over the world. It only seems to me that this is just a waste of time and money by the sovereign people, our money. There is also computer illiteracy. What legislation should be used to evaluate, for example, the activity of a site if its server is located on the territory of another state? This site is no exception. request
        1. krechet-1978
          krechet-1978 April 23 2014 23: 08
          +3
          We need a competent team of specialists - bloggers, lawyers, specialists on the technical and user side of the issue, and only then the deputies. The bill should be worked out to the smallest detail, otherwise fingers will again fall into the sky or into the eye. In addition, there is no government agency that could competently work in the Internet space.
      2. alex84
        alex84 April 23 2014 23: 23
        +4
        why it all comes down only to politics. for example, my friend keeps a blog about world basketball (many send him materials for publication), so because of this law he now has to collect all kinds of moronic permissions and references so that he can legally have a sports blog, he’s not involved in politics, he’s just and his readers are interested in basketball. And scientists, artists, historians and others keep their blogs, for which they are tied to this moronic law. If someone does not like what the historian wrote on his blog, he can be brought to responsibility on an actually invented occasion, in short utter nonsense, another vyser from the State Fool
        1. Alex Danilov
          Alex Danilov April 24 2014 00: 06
          0
          Nuuu. I don’t know. Then bloggers should be professionals in their field, things they will write about. In order not to write lies.
        2. mivmim
          mivmim April 24 2014 02: 25
          -2
          Another vyser from alex84. Who will fine your friend if he really has basketball, and not something else. I would also have fined Gosduru.
          1. alex84
            alex84 April 24 2014 11: 50
            -1
            Read the law stupid Nashi, and then blather. Only you can lick the government ass, Nashi stupid
            1. mivmim
              mivmim April 24 2014 15: 34
              -1
              stupid nashi, nashi stupid .... laughing I say that I’ve got it. And it’s better to lick the diarrhea to your government, and not to a dumb pin .... to the board.
        3. yulka2980
          yulka2980 April 24 2014 06: 19
          +1
          I think, nevertheless, the law will be aimed specifically at "political" bloggers.
      3. olegkrava
        olegkrava April 23 2014 23: 44
        0
        So you write that America is part of Yakutia.
        1. woron333444
          woron333444 April 24 2014 06: 50
          +1
          Alaska part of Chukotka
      4. Ross
        Ross April 23 2014 23: 46
        +12
        Right away, they changed the topic of news from the Crimea.
      5. armageddon
        armageddon April 24 2014 03: 51
        0
        hmm ... of course, a two-edged sword, but I want to believe in the right hands
      6. armageddon
        armageddon April 24 2014 03: 51
        0
        hmm ... of course, a two-edged sword, but I want to believe in the right hands
    2. Eugeniy_369k
      Eugeniy_369k April 23 2014 23: 56
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Control is needed everywhere, but unobtrusive.

      Yes, it is necessary, but the current "bends in the field" has not been canceled recourse .
  2. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 23 2014 22: 00
    +8
    Alexander Zharov spoke in favor of increasing the responsibility for using the media for extremist activities.

    And, also, strengthen the responsibility for inciting ethnic and religious hatred ...
    101 km and confskts. Total honestly acquired property ...
    1. tokens2
      tokens2 April 23 2014 22: 39
      +1
      101 km and confskts.

      Specify City.
      Magadan? laughing
      Moscow? From Magadan?
      1. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 23 2014 22: 50
        +2
        Well, not necessarily Magadan.
        It is possible to Alaska in Nikolaevsk (there is one). To establish Russian-mattress relations ...
  3. skyil
    skyil April 23 2014 22: 00
    +8
    It’s better to modify it seven times than then to stumble and offend people what
  4. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 23 2014 22: 01
    +18
    Bloggers need to be controlled! Only not on the Internet, but in the financial sphere. Who, for what, and when, gave money! Ato you divorced ..... like a bulk!
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 23 2014 22: 11
      +9
      Everything "good" begins with, Ineta. I won't give examples ...
      Bloggers can be beggars, like the "Church Mouse", and cause harm: Mom, do not cry ... what
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 22: 15
        +2
        Bulk closed and without the adoption of such a stupid law.
        1. mivmim
          mivmim April 24 2014 02: 35
          0
          Bulk closed and without the adoption of such a stupid law.

          Well, they closed it right. If so many stocks were done by a simple person, they would give him for life.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan April 24 2014 00: 57
      +4
      And who will control? Bureaucrats? Who are "patriots" now? Friends of some Katka Lakhova, a lobbyist for sex education for children of 8 years old and juvenile justice? Such a blogger will write the truth about the juvenile, Katka will remember him and then incite such a "checking". Do you need to teach you that, if you wish, you can get to the bottom of the pillar?
  5. rereture
    rereture April 23 2014 22: 06
    +6
    Personally, I am against such garbage. I’ll write, for example, an article on top war denouncing power or ethnic crime, and am I all an extremist, an instigator?

    Quite from the oak collapsed!

    From today, only VPN and Tor. In figs, still sit afterwards for expressing their opinions.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 23 2014 22: 20
      +3
      Bulk by the way, and raised this topic, and bloggers even pay taxes over the hill, and if someone is interested in you, then VPN will not help.
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 22: 31
        +4
        At least there will be a sense of security.

        By the way, today a law has been enacted obligating Internet e-mail and instant messaging services to store messages and user data for half a year.

        http://www.mk.ru/science/technology/article/2014/04/23/1018733-quotantiterrorist


        icheskiyquot-zakon-ostavit-rossiyan-bez-skype-facebook-itwitter.html

        That's it. Shit the state on the privacy of citizens.
        1. Lars_xiii
          Lars_xiii April 23 2014 22: 36
          +1
          Actually, when you first start IE honestly warns that everything you enter into the network may become publicly available. smile
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    3. Lars_xiii
      Lars_xiii April 23 2014 22: 33
      +3
      Tor? Do not tell my slippers laughing Before using it, it is recommended that you familiarize yourself with its device and creation history. Believe me, for transmitting really serious information this is far from the best idea. As for the articles - it is assumed that bloggers should check what they write, and not lie at random.
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 22: 43
        0
        I was familiar with the torus device and i2p network. The tor network has a bunch of sites and services, including mail. And about the transfer of serious information, it’s just the best idea. The Silk Road story confirms this.
    4. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 23 2014 22: 34
      +3
      I agree with you. It is necessary to separate political correctness and criticism from extremism and appeals ...
    5. Klim2011
      Klim2011 April 23 2014 22: 41
      +2
      Those bloggers whose pages are visited daily by more than 3 thousand users will be recognized as popular.

      Topwar Is your blog?
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 22: 50
        +1
        Do not cling to words, I just gave a not-so-good example. Under the concept of a blog, even a page in VK with 3000 subscribers falls.

        But the fact that the authorities creeps into the PERSONAL life of citizens is annoying.
    6. sniper
      sniper April 23 2014 22: 43
      +5
      Quote: rereture
      . I’ll write, for example, an article on a top war denouncing power
      And you do not write .... wassat But seriously, the article is first checked by the site administration or the editors ... I don’t know who is involved in this, but if it was published, the administration is responsible for its content ... Well, something like that ...
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 22: 51
        -5
        Seriously, this law is an invasion of the privacy of citizens, which is a direct violation of the constitution.
        1. sniper
          sniper April 23 2014 22: 59
          +5
          Quote: rereture
          then this law is an invasion of the privacy of citizens,

          And searches at airports, at borders, checking drivers for alcohol content, do not bother ??? The same invasion .... I would not begin to dramatize so, for the bazaar you need to answer IMHO
          1. rereture
            rereture April 23 2014 23: 20
            +3
            I am not opposed to the fact that you need to answer for the bazaar, but if suddenly the bureaucrat doesn’t like that you wrote on your blog that, say, he beat you or someone else with the guards, and brought the evidence in the form of a video file. Isn’t he really going to take advantage of the new law and imprison him for extremism?

            Or I will cover the event, for example, according to Biryulyovo type. Me in a jail for 282?

            Or do our deputies have double standards? Is the United States watching its citizens is bad, are we watching its good?
          2. Magadan
            Magadan April 24 2014 01: 08
            +3
            Examinations and alcohol tests are the safety of others.
            And the dissemination of information about the affairs of bureaucrats - whose security is this ???
            1. wasjasibirjac
              wasjasibirjac April 24 2014 04: 01
              0
              Quote: Magadan
              And the dissemination of information about the affairs of bureaucrats - whose security is this ???

              actually universal, as if some bureaucrat is able to spit on the law regarding the prohibition to beat another person, then he will also spit on the law prohibiting bribery, high treason, etc. So why such a bureaucrat?
        2. Kite
          Kite April 23 2014 23: 14
          +4
          Well, do not be angry! What private life does a public person have when speaking to an audience of more than 3 thousand people?
          1. rereture
            rereture April 23 2014 23: 23
            -1
            Or maybe you should not equal the Internet and life?
            1. Kite
              Kite April 23 2014 23: 38
              +1
              Quote: rereture
              Or maybe you should not equal the Internet and life?

              - maybe it’s worth living in reality ?! A professional blogger (who is the subject of the law) in what environment does he live? tongue
              1. rereture
                rereture April 23 2014 23: 48
                +1
                I will not argue with you smile Your words have some truth wink
        3. krechet-1978
          krechet-1978 April 23 2014 23: 28
          +3
          I support rereture, the Slides' bill - it’s difficult to cut off the rot of provocative anarchy using a dull razor of law from healthy freedom of speech.
        4. Homo
          Homo April 23 2014 23: 34
          +3
          Quote: rereture
          Seriously, this law is an invasion of the privacy of citizens, which is a direct violation of the constitution.

          Which side is it? Journalist of a newspaper with a circulation of 500 copies. should be responsible "for the bazaar", but a blogger with a "circulation" of 3000 views is not! Crowned, and there at least dawn? For every information massively replicated you need to answer!
          1. rereture
            rereture April 23 2014 23: 51
            +2
            I do not agree with you, as bloggers should be responsible for the bazaar as media, and there are no rights like journalists. This is not fair.

            http://www.consultant.ru/popular/smi/42_5.html
            1. armageddon
              armageddon April 24 2014 02: 20
              +1
              here I agree
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          2. Magadan
            Magadan April 24 2014 01: 09
            +1
            that means you don’t need to bend a newspaper with a circulation of 500 copies!
      2. Magadan
        Magadan April 24 2014 01: 06
        +1
        And accordingly, such articles will NOT be posted!
        Deputies, for example, from Volgograd, flew to hang out in Italy, you wanted to write an article about this on Topvar. And now the editors will think about it a thousand times!
        All the phrases that the guys just went to drink, will have to be deleted because this is speculation! Real photos of their deaf in the wine cellars of Italy, at our expense, will have to be deleted, because this is the PRIVATE LIFE of CITIZENS !!!
    7. Kite
      Kite April 23 2014 22: 45
      0
      Quote: rereture
      I’ll write, for example, an article on top war denouncing power or ethnic crime, and am I all an extremist, an instigator?

      - why build guesses, just read the law and do not write denunciations of what you have no idea about. Then there will be no problems. Episodic articles on TV and blogs are still somewhat different things, but even with episodic injections of "nonsense" one should think about the limit of what is permissible. (a malicious slanderer may declare that he was frankly mistaken and thus avoid responsibility, and it seems that such softness is in vain!)
      1. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 23: 03
        +2
        Of course, I am pleased with the law (sarcasm), which obliges me to register my blog by indicating my full name and contacts.
      2. Magadan
        Magadan April 24 2014 01: 16
        +2
        "check the accuracy of information before it is posted and immediately delete if it is unreliable; prevent the dissemination of information about the private life of a citizen"

        THIS IS SMALL? Do you want to show off the scenes of how the bureaucrats-loafers will now take advantage of this?
        How do you REALLY check the authenticity of the fact that a drunk cop broke into the apartment with representatives of the guardianship authorities and took the child from the parents at night? Ask the cop? The guardianship authorities? YEAH, keep your pocket wider! From "the words of the injured parents"? Do not channel - they are an interested party, they lie, drunks-murderers are filthy!
        That is, there will be no article, the public will not pick it up in hot pursuit, and there everything will settle down, settle down and either the shah will die or donkey! Custody will receive 30 pieces of silver from Scandinavian sponsors, people are sitting afraid that they will come, the child is leaving for Italy, and then in Kosovo FOR BODIES
    8. armageddon
      armageddon April 23 2014 23: 32
      +1
      damn well PPC do you have more than 3000 visits per day? smile already
      1. Magadan
        Magadan April 24 2014 01: 29
        +2
        and if so? Look at Colonel Kassad for anyone has 3000! And he, by the way, writes against the Natsikov junta! And collects money for the Donbass Militia. And now what, to open his name to him, to bang him?

        I think Matvienko is a pest. I demand a wrecking law! Matvienko specifically wants to kill all the bloggers who are fighting against the Nazi junta in Ukraine!
        1. igor_m_p
          igor_m_p April 24 2014 03: 19
          0
          Why break spears? Register your blog on any foreign service and live in peace. LJ has already stated that this information will be hidden for blogs with more than two and a half thousand subscribers. Just in the field "Friends with ..." there will be 2500+
          It is unrealistic to track the real number of visitors, especially when placing the service on foreign sites.
    9. Eugeniy_369k
      Eugeniy_369k April 24 2014 00: 00
      +2
      Quote: rereture
      Personally, I am against such garbage. I’ll write, for example, an article on top war denouncing power or ethnic crime, and am I all an extremist, an instigator?

      Yes, that's what we are talking about, you want to tweet about the next "Cayenne" Kadyrov, and you chick fellow and "at times will finish" so as not to chirp.
    10. Magadan
      Magadan April 24 2014 01: 02
      +2
      a hundred pluses to you, but in the course of our people never learned to read between the lines!
      So far, they have not entered that our bureaucrats, especially from Edrossni, do not try to shut up our mouths by not washing us so that we can continue to engage in wrecking for the sake of various foreign sects, such as Juvenile Justice!

      And in general, let's better demand from the government the PEST LAW! We, damn it, are not protected from chaos of bureaucrats! They do not bear any responsibility before us!
      And at least they will be afraid that their initiatives may turn out to be a deliberate wrecking of the country for the sake of the US State Department or personal enrichment.
      1. Eugeniy_369k
        Eugeniy_369k April 24 2014 12: 55
        0
        Quote: Magadan
        And anyway, let's better demand the PEST LAW in power! We, damn it, are not protected from chaos of bureaucrats! They DO NOT bear any responsibility before us! And at least they will be afraid that their initiatives may turn out to be a deliberate wrecking of the country for the sake of the US State Department or personal enrichment.

        100500 times per good ! But .... the problem is small, small smile
        let's better demand power

        YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO REQUEST ANYTHING AT THE AUTHORITY.
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  6. Yugra
    Yugra April 23 2014 22: 26
    +10
    Why was Fedotov appointed to his post? To protect the fifth column and swamp critters? I haven’t heard another from him. Let him shut up his liberal mouth and calm down
    1. armageddon
      armageddon April 23 2014 23: 36
      0
      Quote: Ugra
      Why was Fedotov appointed to his post? To protect the fifth column and swamp critters? I haven’t heard another from him. Let him shut up his liberal mouth and calm down

      Well, on the thief and the hat is on, so let them calm down
    2. Magadan
      Magadan April 24 2014 01: 32
      0
      Why Matvienko was put to her post? Nazi defend the junta? And she does this with this law! Blogger Colonel Kassad, a vivid opponent of the junta, will open his name, address, etc., and he will stupidly bang. Do you think it's hard to order a person in Russia?
  7. Horly
    Horly April 23 2014 22: 27
    +5
    Everything is correct - what is "calls for extremism" is spelled out in the Criminal Code, and on which site it happens - real or virtual, there is no difference in principle - the goal is essentially the same!
  8. zzz
    zzz April 23 2014 22: 29
    +4
    I don’t know where to place it, but interestingly, you can laugh.
  9. erased
    erased April 23 2014 22: 32
    +1
    Have sunk! A blog is a person's personal page. Like a room in his house. Wants - invites friends, wants - no. What they are trending about is their business. At least obscenely, at least how. And some "national exiles" want to control blogs now? And to go into people's houses and talk - you can't talk about it, let's talk about it, or else! - they don't want that? Or is it ahead?
    Complete chaos and by the way - the very policy of double standards and absurdity, for which we scold the United States. Why scold - we are no better in power "the smartest wise men", the guardians of the people in his face and his wallet in his pocket.
    1. sniper
      sniper April 23 2014 22: 50
      +5
      Quote: erased
      ! A blog is a person’s personal page. Like a room in his house. Wants - invites friends, wants - no.
      If you gather three thousand people and begin to preach the ideas of fascism to them, call for the overthrow of the existing system, etc. , then you automatically become a criminal, and it does not matter where you collect them in your apartment or on your page on the Internet ... I see nothing wrong with this law ...
      1. studentmati
        studentmati April 23 2014 22: 59
        +4
        Quote: sniper
        If you ... begin to preach the ideas of fascism ... then you automatically become a criminal, no matter where you collect them in your apartment or on your page on the Internet ... I see nothing wrong with this law ...


        Very concise and accurate! good Good night, Nikolai.
      2. rereture
        rereture April 23 2014 23: 12
        -5
        Let's wait when "tightening the nuts" goes further. And we will get limited Internet access only to the portal of state services.

        But fascism, nationalism, not so bad things in terms of ideology and state. devices.
      3. Magadan
        Magadan April 24 2014 01: 37
        +2
        Nobody argues about the ideas of fascism! Again you covered your eyes with these ideas and you didn’t see the main thing behind the picket fence of beautiful legal verbiage!
        Now you can’t write ANY unverified information against anyone!
        The elected representatives of Volgograd had a good rest in Italy, they hung out at the national expense - go now write about it! Officially, they went to "share experience", and everything else was "private life." All compromising photos are subject to a different "unauthorized shooting" law. Do you have a paper signed by the deputies, officially certified by a notary, that they just decided to rest for our loot? NO? Well, tady lay out a fine for not checking the "reliability of information"
      4. Ulairy
        Ulairy April 24 2014 05: 12
        0
        Quote: sniper
        I see nothing wrong with this law ...

        Maybe there’s nothing wrong with him yet, but there’s sure to be a monkey who starts to swing them from right to left, like a club ... If you wish, role-playing fighters fighting on wood can be attributed to extremists, and airsoft players and neopagans (for a Kolovrat or for praising the ancient Germanic gods). So everything is ambiguous.
    2. studentmati
      studentmati April 23 2014 23: 08
      +1
      Quote: erased
      Have come! A blog is a person’s personal page. Like a room in his house. Wants - invites friends, wants - no. What they trend about is their business. Though obscene, at least somehow.


      Tryndet at home in the room when you hear yourself and the interlocutor, or tryndet on a bench near the house (blog), listen to all the neighbors (although only reluctantly)? There is a difference.
    3. Kite
      Kite April 23 2014 23: 09
      +2
      Quote: erased
      A blog is a person’s personal page. Like a room in his house.

      - if the room is very large! The law refers to the number of visitors over 3 thousand, i.e. "room" for "intimate" communication the size of a huge concert hall. Talk about lawlessness? Isn't connivance at the ambitions of micro-heels a mess? Modern possibilities of manipulation are not comparable to what it was before, technology is developing (electronic technology and psychological methods). Correction of laws in the field of dissemination of "information" and "opinions" is needed, and should already concern not only paper media.
  10. razved
    razved April 23 2014 22: 41
    0
    Quote: Giant thought
    Control is needed everywhere, but unobtrusive.

    like this bully
    http://www.bugabu.ru/uploads/posts/1253355534_bugabbu.ru-13.jpg
  11. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 23 2014 22: 42
    0
    A blog is a person’s personal page.
    .
    Add: Personal page in INTERNET.
    Internet global network.
    Global Network - The World ...
    So, it’s better to invite home. Yes, and personal communication is better ... With uv ... hi
    1. rereture
      rereture April 23 2014 22: 57
      0
      Well? Your apartment is the same on planet Earth.

      But in fact, when people illiterate in this matter are eager to control everything and everything, it goes sideways for ordinary citizens.
      1. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 23
        0
        Well, about professional fitness, I can’t presume to speak (HR department is responsible for this).
        Otherwise, you are right: Our House-Earth !!! ... With uv ... hi
        1. rereture
          rereture April 23 2014 23: 32
          0
          Sorry, but
          when illiterate people in this matter are eager to control everything and everything, it goes sideways for ordinary citizens.
          it's about gosduru smile
      2. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 34
        0
        The minus is not mine ...
        1. rereture
          rereture April 23 2014 23: 51
          0
          Nothing wrong smile
  12. WIN969
    WIN969 April 23 2014 22: 44
    +2
    This law will not harm normal bloggers in any way, but any anal things will become less.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan April 24 2014 01: 40
      -1
      And what really anal did so much harm? Well, I tried a little, well, neighing over him. Well, I neighing once again over my liberal acquaintances! What's next? Where is the harm concrete and tangible IN FACTS from his tryndezha?
  13. Simple
    Simple April 23 2014 22: 55
    +1
    And how will things be with the comments?
    1. Kite
      Kite April 23 2014 23: 25
      +4
      And the owners of electronic media are responsible for the comments. This is according to the law adopted earlier. Did not notice?
  14. kelevra
    kelevra April 23 2014 22: 56
    +2
    I believe that bloggers should be well controlled! Take the same Navalny or Udaltsov. These two cattle wrote that they would have been shot for a long time in some western country, but they didn’t even arrange a maidan in Moscow! still bastards are walking around, waiting for new sponsors in order to try again to rock the situation in the country and move a bunch of traitors to some appearances!
    1. armageddon
      armageddon April 24 2014 02: 08
      0
      damn well finally prudent thoughts plus
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  15. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 23 2014 23: 04
    +2
    At the same time, from the chairman of the presidential Human Rights Council, Mikhail Fedotov, a letter was sent to Valentina Matvienko requesting the rejection of this bill and the creation of a commission to finalize it.

    The OSCE also expressed concern and did not recommend the adoption of this law.
    I would like to ask these guys: "Who are you talking to now?"
    fool
  16. andj61
    andj61 April 23 2014 23: 05
    +2
    Quote: Smiles at you
    So, it’s better to invite home. Yes, and personal communication is better ..


    Yes, and a shot glass on the Internet is somehow not very ... And with personal communication, it is possible on a scale.
    1. Smiles to you
      Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 07
      0
      150% I support ... hi
      By the way, 5 drops of the juice of the earth, no one has yet canceled ... drinks
      1. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 April 23 2014 23: 42
        0
        Stop drinking, by the way, alcohol causes very significant harm to Russia, I would definitely introduce an article for the promotion of alcohol. hi
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        2. armageddon
          armageddon April 24 2014 02: 17
          0
          hmm naughty ...
  17. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 06
    +3
    Yes, how do you not understand!
    Personal life ends after you leave the walls of your home (Home).
    Outside the house, you are in public (Pharmacy, street. Lantern), etc ...
    1. rereture
      rereture April 23 2014 23: 22
      +1
      The trick is that I'm technically at home that's all.
      1. Smiles to you
        Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 27
        0
        Can you invite me !? I won’t come empty ... good
        Let's talk ... It's better than "Klava" to rape ...
        1. rereture
          rereture April 23 2014 23: 33
          +1
          I would love to, but I'm sociable laughing
          1. Smiles to you
            Smiles to you April 23 2014 23: 37
            0
            Then you better come to us ... drinks
  18. Valter1364
    Valter1364 April 23 2014 23: 16
    +5
    When a phrase came across a long time ago, I don’t remember whose story told by a housewife and a famous professor in the audience are two different things in their impact. I completely agree with this. If you are publicly and consciously expressing your thoughts to a wide audience, then be kind first think carefully what your thoughts carry and what is the purpose?
  19. Horly
    Horly April 23 2014 23: 20
    +4
    The most important rule is not to try too much! And if there are no brains, then here it is - I'm sorry! By the way, it is anonymity on the Internet that gives rise to permissiveness in many statements! It's like joking on Valuev from the 10th floor. And then they will help to descend to the ground - then express "your opinion". Only it seems to me that desire will immediately disappear!
    1. rereture
      rereture April 23 2014 23: 29
      -1
      So the fact of the matter is that anonymity on the Internet is what makes it the Internet.
      Do not equate the Internet and real life.

      Just deputies do not understand that many will go to foreign hosting or in the shadows, and then you will find or prove horseradish. Like this.
      1. armageddon
        armageddon April 23 2014 23: 46
        0
        Well, do not worry then ...
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    2. krechet-1978
      krechet-1978 April 23 2014 23: 44
      0
      People need to be educated, not intimidated.
    3. armageddon
      armageddon April 23 2014 23: 59
      0
      I agree, and the federals are interested in something completely different so that
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  20. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 23 2014 23: 40
    +4
    In general. Something needs to be done already with these liars. I, in principle, about information. Because it already got it completely. How many people will miraculously miracle with tablets, from which you get younger, or you lose weight, like bracelets -to give awesome potency, or-hell knows how to pump you up and give strength, then with some programs that give a guarantee that any woman will do whatever you want ... And so on and so forth. That’s all boring! And after a bunch of all the false information, only the head swells and hurts. And you think -...!! -To the wall-and would shoot all these liars, liars and simply-objschikov! And then, you go to run, and on the horizontal bars. During the run, cursing and mother that there is strength and urine, all these objects ...!
    When will there be a law, so that such liars and deceivers, in simple terms, are they ... shots-shooters? And information-false, false such-destroyed! How many more will powder the brain is not known what? Where do organs and laws look, damn them ?! I understand, well, maybe they really invented what-it-means-check and confirm and give to the people. If it’s not true, fuck-shoot a liar, a liar, an ... obschik! And the information is refuted and destroyed. FALSE devices and inventions are the same! Well, how many swindlers will already be-rubbish people with mazgi and take money, for nothing? Crooks, crooks, thieves. Shoot such!
    Damn, got it! To put in a thought or where there is a proposal, a law, vote, consolidate and execute at the state level!
  21. armageddon
    armageddon April 23 2014 23: 42
    +1
    Quote: Homo
    Quote: rereture
    Seriously, this law is an invasion of the privacy of citizens, which is a direct violation of the constitution.

    Which side is it? Journalist of a newspaper with a circulation of 500 copies. should be responsible "for the bazaar", but a blogger with a "circulation" of 3000 views is not! Crowned, and there at least dawn? For every information massively replicated you need to answer!

    PPC completely agree. I wonder who has 3000 visits per day. let info check
  22. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 23 2014 23: 42
    +1
    OO! I don’t even know what to say. Let it’s be better to do these things, that even on this site they push their crap. For example, this: "Do you want to make money quickly and easily at home?"
    or this: "High earnings without leaving home"
    or this: "High earnings without leaving home"
    or this: "Start earning from $ 4 per month"
    or this: "Order our bracelet, and in a week, you will be Ilya Muromets, pumped up and healthy"
    or this: "order a disc - and all your women"
    Here explain to me-and this is not the same crooks, crooks, thieves? Or something that they offer is true ???? Even here on this site. With them, this law will have to fight?
    1. armageddon
      armageddon April 24 2014 03: 16
      0
      hmm ... this is advertising and the advertiser itself is answering for it, but calls like we know how to steer or nonsense, but according to our data ... let them control it and I feel that the Leberasti will want revenge
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  23. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson April 23 2014 23: 43
    +2
    [media = http: //vesti.ua/pridneprove/48854-mobilizirovannym-buntarjas-grozit-do-pj
    ati-let-tjurmy]
    This whole situation strikes me. We can sympathize with the guys, WE! Those who are spread rot in Ukraine, those who are hated already in Kiev. Yes, it’s so, we’ll swear anyway, but it hurts for the guys, the creatures, who do something with families. Note by the way, everything in Russian who needs this mov, if such a ... n @ is happening. Who needs this maidan, if the last blanket in the holes? But how can you even relate to your people? here you have the friendship of peoples. Here is brotherly love for you, I personally felt sorry for the guys who were standing there. They were simply thrown through a causal place with families and small children.
    Ukrainians, what are you doing?
  24. armageddon
    armageddon April 23 2014 23: 52
    0
    Quote: rereture
    Personally, I am against such garbage. I’ll write, for example, an article on top war denouncing power or ethnic crime, and am I all an extremist, an instigator?

    Quite from the oak collapsed!

    From today, only VPN and Tor. In figs, still sit afterwards for expressing their opinions.

    you will be imprisoned and you do not steal
  25. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 00: 01
    +2
    In general, who are bloggers? Am I a blogger? What on the Internet, I did not find a normal intelligible explanation.
    Or how can one understand when Yakrichu-pin ... dos are bad, and when I say, the road has fallen apart or the house is bursting at the seams, or bureaucrats do not pay salaries, and the pockets themselves are stuffed with themselves-an extremist?
    1. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 24 2014 00: 17
      0
      1) who is a blogger? Can anyone explain to me? The blogger is .......
      2) The information must be true, not false. Here I agree. Although I would in my country. On the websites of my country.
      3) And yet, who is a blogger? The one who writes the article and puts it on the Internet, or the one who comments on it and discusses and expresses his thoughts?
      Yes, someone answer.
      1. Kite
        Kite April 24 2014 00: 52
        0
        The interpretation of who a blogger is is easy and easy to find, the content of the draft law (the code name "on equating popular bloggers with the media") can now be downloaded, the law itself can be read tomorrow (in the near future) in the WG. A storm broke out in a glass. Don't panic
        Quote: Alex Danilov
        Yes, someone answer.
        wink
        PS: keep in mind that this law applies only (naturally) to the territory of our country. This is due to the fact that some yerniks have already begun to globalize the law, extending it to servers around the world and to all earthlings.
      2. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson April 24 2014 02: 34
        0
        Quote: Alex Danilov
        And yet, who is a blogger?

        A blogger is an individual who expresses the collective opinion of groups or communities, as well as his or her opinion on certain news / popular discussions on the Internet. At the same time, the ranking of the blogosphere provides for several dozen kpi, that is, key indicators, according to both the search engine algorithm and the general set of "hot" topics that "fit" into the current atmosphere of the sites under discussion. Usability and behavioral factor of the new algorithm, what to do))) To be a blogger, you need to have a lot of free time for entries on the Internet and comments that will accurately and succinctly reflect the current situation on topics of interest, taking into account all the above specifics, where you need to take into account more keywords and semantics of the main leads, as well as the general opinion and mood of the audience of the site, where this semantic link is present. Is that clear? )))) The rest - for the money, sorry)))
  26. armageddon
    armageddon April 24 2014 00: 08
    0
    Quote: studentmati
    Quote: erased
    Have come! A blog is a person’s personal page. Like a room in his house. Wants - invites friends, wants - no. What they trend about is their business. Though obscene, at least somehow.


    Tryndet at home in the room when you hear yourself and the interlocutor, or tryndet on a bench near the house (blog), listen to all the neighbors (although only reluctantly)? There is a difference.

    yes no here in a megaphone in the square ...
  27. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 00: 27
    +1
    Quote: rereture
    Or maybe you should not equal the Internet and life?

    Well, no one can argue with modern Internet attacks and brainwashing, as well as with television. Amerikosy-well, even very good use of Internet technology. IMHO-it should be true. Or immediately write in big letters-this is a TALE, FANTASY or FANTASY.
  28. kreid2
    kreid2 April 24 2014 00: 33
    +2
    That everyone is so buried in bloggers. For bloggers "liberals" the new law is not a problem. Echo of Moscow is registered as a media, so what ...
    In fact, the new law in a formal relationship, and for any law, a formal relationship is the foundation, the killer of the Internet. According to it, ANY site in the world that has popularity should be registered as a media outlet and comply with Russian laws. These are hundreds of thousands of sites. If one of them has registered now, he will have to independently monitor his content for violations of the legislation of the Russian Federation, including copyright. If it doesn’t correspond, he will not be able to get off with a notification as it is now, but automatically gets money.
    So hello to all torrents, funny pictures, online casinos, libraries and more, more ...
    And who is not registered automatically lock.
  29. Magadan
    Magadan April 24 2014 00: 53
    0
    Guys, many of you again did not carefully read the law!
    The bureaucrats-thieves and other lawless people again try to cover up their w ... and shut up our mouths!
    Behind all this turbulence against terrorism and for "world peace" is what lies behind:

    "check the accuracy of information before it is posted and immediately delete if it is unreliable; prevent the dissemination of information about the private life of a citizen"

    Katka Lakhova, who is from United Russia and who is a citizen for juvenile justice and sex education in schools? Citizen! So let some blogger just try to say a word about her after this law! How do you really prove the credibility of the fact that Katka Lakhova and other remnants of the Juvenile Justice Sect are really pushing her into our country to please the State Department? For the sake of ruining our families, in order to scandalize the whole country with the guardianship authorities, who, after a short lull, will again burst into apartments and confiscate children for "poor repair", for "lack of proper toys", "for being hit with a belt with 24 iron plaques" , "for lack of firewood in the house" ???
    You will not write a damn then against them retaliatory accusations causing righteous indignation of the public!
    And finally learn to ignore all this rubbish about "the fight against terrorism" !!!
    1. Kite
      Kite April 24 2014 01: 24
      +1
      Are you disgusted by Mr. Lakhov or juvenile justice? Or had a fight with Katka? I can give advice only on the second question. Create a blog on justice, collect counterarguments, gather all like-minded people on your website when the number of readers exceeds 3000, register as a media and claim media rights.
      And about the scandal with Katka, this is your personal affair, but not a public one. This site is not worth doing.
    2. prishelec
      prishelec April 24 2014 03: 14
      0
      / Magadan /

      Well, you generally carry some kind of acheny dear, I wonder how old you are ...
  30. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 00: 53
    +1
    Quote: Horly
    Everything is correct - what is "calls for extremism" is spelled out in the Criminal Code, and on which site it happens - real or virtual, there is no difference in principle - the goal is essentially the same!

    No, well, what. And rightly. As if everything fell into place. This is the same type of bandits-murderers, terrorists say on the street, let's blow up that house, fuck it. Only through the Internet. And they call on the Internet. Or, "Rashke -parashke rusne-magila "-the same extremism.
    Or didn’t I understand the couple? what belay
  31. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 01: 03
    +1
    Quote: Magadan
    Guys, many of you again did not carefully read the law!
    The bureaucrats-thieves and other lawless people again try to cover up their w ... and shut up our mouths!
    Behind all this turbulence against terrorism and for "world peace" is what lies behind:

    "check the accuracy of information before it is posted and immediately delete if it is unreliable; prevent the dissemination of information about the private life of a citizen"

    Katka Lakhova, who is from United Russia and who is a citizen for juvenile justice and sex education in schools? Citizen! So let some blogger just try to say a word about her after this law! How do you really prove the credibility of the fact that Katka Lakhova and other remnants of the Juvenile Justice Sect are really pushing her into our country to please the State Department? For the sake of ruining our families, in order to scandalize the whole country with the guardianship authorities, who, after a short lull, will again burst into apartments and confiscate children for "poor repair", for "lack of proper toys", "for being hit with a belt with 24 iron plaques" , "for lack of firewood in the house" ???
    You will not write a damn then against them retaliatory accusations causing righteous indignation of the public!
    And finally learn to ignore all this rubbish about "the fight against terrorism" !!!

    Ltd!!! What a nightmare, this juvenile justice !!! For this adoption of this juvenile justice, you can safely kill anyone. In short, the one who accepts the one with a million rally and flags is right in the thought! As with the one where the Russians supported Crimea at the rally. Vo. Immediately a boycott and flags in hand.
    that. If they will take the children this way, then let the deputies themselves give birth to the state’s children. Well, let them fuck themselves and give birth to children in the ass. In general, the Russians, in my opinion, get into that juvenile justice. I don’t like it at all.
  32. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus April 24 2014 01: 05
    +1
    In any case, you need to RESPOND for the BAZAR !! IMHO
  33. prishelec
    prishelec April 24 2014 03: 04
    0
    I completely agree with these laws, for example, I’m not a blogger and rarely write letters to someone, and if they follow me I don’t mind, because if I do not write something extremist or illegal, then the state will never reveal my personal data and letters, this is why privacy is not violated, and I won’t even know whether they are following me or not, let’s keep track of, in general, we need total control over everyone, that's it! yes
    1. armageddon
      armageddon April 24 2014 03: 34
      0
      generally right, but don’t be dumb with the global one though ... I think for a long time I’ve just had goals for the feds that they don’t talk about
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  34. yulka2980
    yulka2980 April 24 2014 06: 24
    0
    I think the law was adopted because of the growing 5 columns and it won’t be especially applied to ordinary people. And bloggers are now divorced as not cut dogs. All the same, they can now think of writing any nonsense ten times before
  35. mig31
    mig31 April 24 2014 06: 24
    -1
    Once, the Russian Empire played liberalism, what came of it, everyone is well aware, or recall !?
  36. pink
    pink April 24 2014 07: 00
    0
    Why potential? Most real
  37. mamont5
    mamont5 April 24 2014 08: 08
    0
    LJ has already gathered to hide how many readers popular bloggers have. Anything over 2500 will be "a lot", i.e. 2500+
  38. made13
    made13 April 24 2014 09: 19
    +1
    Everything is right! In personal communication, the same bloggers will not allow themselves to say what they write on the Internet. Just because you can get in the face for insults and obscenities.