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Oleg Tsarev: “The commanders of the nationalist unit Dnipro are paid $ 4000 a month for participating in the civil war”

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Oleg Tsarev: “The commanders of the nationalist unit Dnipro are paid $ 4000 a month for participating in the civil war”



Presidential candidate of Ukraine - about the situation in the southeast, the upcoming elections and their own security



Ukrainian presidential candidate Oleg Tsarev visited Moscow, at the talks with the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation. And gave an interview to "MK". In the first part of the conversation, Oleg Anatolyevich told that the Berkut fighters were offered thousands of dollars for 100-200 for returning to the Kiev authorities. In today's material - the continuation of the conversation. About why Tsarev went to Kiev to an angry crowd, who are the rebels of the southeast, what to expect from the presidential campaign in Ukraine and whether a civil war is possible in the country.



- Oleg, are you a nuclear physicist by education?

- No, microelectronics.

- Why did you go to politics?

- I have always loved physics, chemistry. Finishing school, I thought for a long time where to go. I could not decide. I also showed good results in the classic wrestling. My coach thought that I needed to seriously pursue a sports career. I had invitations to a number of Moscow universities. The fact is that I won all the olympiads in physics, chemistry, programming. I grew up a boy who studied a lot and well. And I studied physics with pleasure. As a result, I entered the MEPI, there was a group leader there. Subsequently became the first student who graduated from this educational institution as an external student.

“So could you be a scientist?”

- Yes, and I would love to become a scientist.

- And what prevented?

- The country has collapsed, no one needs physicists. In the end, I returned to Ukraine. I thought to go to the factory, where I was distributed after graduation. I came, I saw and understood that I would hardly be interested in the plant. Went to business. Quickly mastered. He was engaged in computer equipment, then became the director of a production company, which we brought out of bankruptcy. And then came the dashing 90. And when law enforcement agencies finally tortured me - at that time other bandits came to replace the bandits, but in uniform, I decided to go to parliament. I thought in some way to influence the change of legislation in order to allow business to develop normally. As a result, I am in the parliament - four convocations.

- Recently, you, your wife and minor children were added to the lustration lists (prohibition to hold public office). Why did you fall into disgrace?

- My colleagues and I thought why my surname causes such hostility from my political opponents. For example, at a closed meeting of the Verkhovna Rada, deputies spent as much as 30 percent of the time discussing what to do with me. We have broadcasts on TV where lawyers gather and discuss how to make me withdraw from the elections, deprive of immunity, and so on. Three criminal cases were opened against me. But I’m just voicing the thoughts and moods of the inhabitants of the south-east. We have a blockade of fear in Ukraine. If a person expresses his opinion on Facebook and does not like it to someone, then he is calculated, beaten, filmed, and the video is posted on the Internet. This is the first warning that I should not write anything like this on social networks ...

Earlier Tsarev told historyas in Dnepropetrovsk, activists of the Right Sector approached the young man at the bus stop, shouted: “Glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes!” The guy said nothing, did not support them with the same greeting. Then the activists began beating him, took the phone. We went from his phone to the page on the social network, and there is a photo of this guy with St. George ribbon. The result - a young man was in the hospital with broken fingers.

Another man, who found St. George ribbon, stuck a knife in his leg. In Donetsk, a very young kid, a schoolboy, wrote on anti-fascist topics. He was identified, caught, beaten and forced to apologize to the Ukrainian people on camera ...

- People are afraid to go against the current government, - continues Tsarev. - But everyone can not be afraid. Probably, my actions are very annoying opponents. But I do not capture buildings, I do not lead the rebels, although they always take me in any building, in any team. I am welcome whenever I come to them - day and night. They share with me food, tea, lead frank conversations. But I am a politician. I defend the point of view on the political platform. And yet it causes aggression.

- You are now forbidden to hold public office ...

- I have never been in the civil service. Yes, I am a people's deputy. But I have never been in the executive branch and I can hardly go there. I don't like being led. My only leader was Yanukovych, as president and as the leader of a party organization. And so I'm a free man. Therefore, these sanctions and lustration seem ridiculous to me. I understand that the current government is temporary. And all the laws invented they can not implement in practice.

- Criminal cases were brought against you, so how did you fly out of the country?

- I’m flying to Ukraine again on Tuesday. In Moscow, I met with your Deputy Foreign Minister, Grigory Karasin, to discuss the Geneva resolution. I am glad that in Geneva I listened to what the people of the south-east want. I do not know whether our wishes will be fulfilled, but the fact that our proposals are on the agenda already says a lot.

- Well, since you still flew to Moscow?

- I flew from Kiev with adventures. The aircraft was then detained on the runway, then tried to land back, then they thought to land in the Dnipropetrovsk region. When I sat down in the Donetsk region, they tried to make me go back to Kiev.

Was that an ordinary plane?

- It was a charter.

"I will easily withdraw my candidacy from the presidential election"

- You have been engaged in classical wrestling for many years. Why did not they try to defend themselves when they attacked you in Kiev?

- In the crowd it is impossible to do.

- Was there a big crowd?

- There were a lot of them.

“Where was your guard at this time?”

- My security has surrendered weapon. And on the other side was a weapon.

- In any other situation, could you stand up for yourself?

- That's not the point. At that moment my main task was to stay on my feet. Do not fall.


- You consider the upcoming presidential election in Ukraine illegitimate. However you are running. What for?

- I use this platform in order to convey to the people the point of view of the south-east. This is the first. Secondly, I traveled all the cities of the southeast and met with almost all the leaders of the protest movements. Collected and combined them. This alone is worth it to participate in the elections.

- Admit that you have to refuse to participate in elections?

- Easy to admit.

- In this case, who would give their votes?

- We decided at the coordination council that if we see that the government absolutely does not listen to our demands, I will withdraw my candidacy and write a statement of non-participation. But I will definitely not send my voices to anyone. If the elections are considered illegitimate, then there is no point at all to vote for anyone.

- In which case the elections may not take place?

- The legislation was specifically changed so that the elections will take place, even if two voters come from all over Ukraine. No, three. And vote for the same. It is obvious that elections in such conditions should not be held, and I constantly declare this. When the army is at war with its people, when some candidates can attend only one part of Ukraine, others - another, the elections are absurd. It is necessary to start with a civil conflict, disarm people, return the army to the places of permanent deployment, and then hold elections.

- How are you going to conduct an election campaign, if you can not come to the west of Ukraine, because they constantly attack you there?

- Agree, if I did not try to come to Kiev and would not show that this is impossible, no one would know that this is impossible.

- This time you have carried. You are alive and well. But the situation could turn differently. And do we need such sacrifices for the presidency?

- The life of a politician is as valuable as the life of an ordinary, any other person. Only responsibility is higher. And the value of life is the same.

- Are you ready to die for Ukraine?

- When I was blocked in the building of the Ukrainian TV channel, where I came to participate in the live program “Freedom of Speech”, they explained to me: if I go outside and get on my knees, then they will save my life. We beat off two assault. I didn't have security inside. But I understood that there are women with me - a group of support for a presidential candidate. And it was necessary to decide something - to deduce people and divert them from the threat.

I gave my mobile phones, took off my jacket and went into the crowd with the words that I would never kneel down in my life. Offered me other options. They said, they say, lay down the authority, write a statement that you are refusing to run. But at that moment I understood that they were filming me on camera, my son was watching me live. By the way, it was like that, that night, my 18-year-old son lost a kilogram of 2. And I realized that I could not give up. And in these conditions it was no longer about my life. It was about the whole country. And now, thank God, I'm alive.

- Are you not afraid for your family? By the way, where are they now?

- In Dnepropetrovsk. Where moved and "Right Sector".

- Before all these events, you lived in Kiev?

- I lived in a rented apartment in Kiev. I do not have such a big business to afford to buy an apartment in the capital.

- According to rumors, you are not a poor man?

- I have a manufacturing business. That is, not me. My spouse has.

- Does she have a network of beauty salons?

“No, she has a paper mill and a bakery.” And she directs all of this while I’m in politics. I have four more children.

- How old are they?

- 6, 10, 14, 18.

“The state security was taken away from me. Private security companies were forbidden to work with me. ”

- Oleg, why didn’t you give out to the state security department, the only one of all presidential candidates?

“I wasn’t given protection to me, they took it away from me right away, which is a gross violation of current legislation.” Moreover, we were not too lazy to ring up all the private companies that are engaged in security and warn that if they work for me, they will revoke the license. A sort of political struggle.

- And how do you move around Ukraine now?

- This is the news I received three days ago. I have not moved yet.

- From day to day you will return to your homeland, who will protect you?

- I have a lot of supporters. I hired unprofessional security.

- What can you say about Tymoshenko? What is happening to her lately? In the morning she says that we need to collect a referendum. Day declares the need to send troops. In the evening - that withdraws its candidacy from the elections.

- It's purely feminine.

- Do you see any logic in these statements?

- It gives out certain things depending on the place in which it is located and to whom it refers. I always say the same thing everywhere. Not that it is good and right. I, too, made a lot of mistakes in my life. I remember my student years. And now I understand very well the young people who went to the Maidan. After all, when I studied at the Moscow Engineering Physics Institute, significant events took place in Moscow - the Emergency Committee, the White House, and my friends and I constantly strived to go somewhere, to stand up for something.

- went to the White House?

- Not. Something broke, did not work, and so I would definitely be in the forefront. I remember how we supported Yeltsin. By the way, you know, he was promoted to the MEPI, where I studied. He performed in our assembly hall. I liked him very much. I sympathized with Gorbachev because he spoke without notes. And I remember how I liked Yanukovych. It really was. I had high hopes for this country with this man. I was recently asked: “Are you capable of killing for your convictions?” I replied: “No.” Why? Because many times in my life I was mistaken. But I myself am exactly capable of dying for my beliefs. A person has the right to manage only his own life.

- Oleg, apparently, you do not want to develop the theme of Tymoshenko?

- I will not discuss other candidates.

- Then answer what the phenomenon is. Poroshenko. The man does not lead the election campaign, became famous only because of his sweets, why did the people love him so much? Why does he occupy a leading position in the ranking of candidates for the presidency of Ukraine?

- He has a 20 percent rating.

- Like forty?

- This graph is shown in view of the low turnout of the southeast and the high turnout of Western Ukraine. You understand how these percentages were counted. Taking into account the attendance adjustment, his rating is not so high at the moment.

- As far as I know, you are the co-chairman of the anti-fascist forum of Ukraine ...

- Yes, we have a lot of nationalist organizations in our country and catastrophically few anti-fascist ones. I have been engaged in this activity for a long time. We have our own website, we hold round tables, publish certain literature, introduce laws.

“But what is happening today in Ukraine is the work of the fascists?”

- Nationalists, yes.

- Everything that is happening now in the Donbas is the beginning of a civil war?

- Yes.

- War is inevitable?

- I watched very carefully how long the Maidan was confronted. He did not want to get together, did not want to move to radical actions. I saw how much effort was spent to ensure that it did take place, that people died, that a wave of anger would come. There are sociological studies - with a certain average age of society, revolution is impossible. Ukraine exceeds this average age.

Of course, our situation is aggravated by a low level and a short lifespan. But when older and wiser people make up the bulk of the country, revolution is impossible at all. Understand that super efforts were made to shake Ukraine. And that's exactly the way super-efforts are spent in order to push Western and Eastern Ukraine together. People do not want this. They do not want to shoot at each other, they do not want a war, they do not want ruin. But always in any society there is a certain percentage of people who are ready to shoot, to participate in hostilities. Now they are trying to gather and direct such people to the southeast. The success of this task depends on whether a war begins or not. In this sense, the identity of the Dnepropetrovsk governor takes on a rather serious meaning.

- Who are these people who are ready to shoot?

- Radicals, nationalists.

- For what? For beliefs or money?

- Including for the money. For example, there is such a Dnipropetrovsk detachment of nationalists "Dnepr". The members of this organization are paid 15 thousand hryvnia per month, which is a little over a thousand dollars. A manager earns from 2 to 4 thousand dollars per month. Under the conditions when in our country many enterprises have stopped, this is good money.

- According to the Ukrainian version, everything that is happening in your country is the work of Russian saboteurs?

- I did not see them. I am well received by rebels protesting in the southeast. Perhaps none of the presidential candidates has penetrated even in those places where I was. They let me into the captured building of the Donetsk administration, into the building of the Lugansk Security Service of Ukraine. So, I have never seen Russian representatives. Although I was looking for them. I was interested in the rebels, are there any Russians among you? Not. I am well acquainted with the militia leaders. I know where they come from, what they do. We exchanged phone numbers with them, keep in touch, they tell us how they came to seize this or that building, who had the idea and why. I do not see the Russian trace in these points - I mean the Donetsk regional administration and the building of the SBU in Lugansk. I have not visited Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, I did not have time. So what about these cities can not say anything.

- Who are these ordinary people who seized the SBU in Lugansk?

- Valery Bolotov - he has a small business, his wife and children are left at home. His friend Igor helps him. After they closed their comrades with whom they organized rallies in Luhansk, the guys decided to seize the building of the SBU. Pierced inside, put on the form that was inside, and took the weapon. Now a whole team of armed guys has gathered there. But the man with the weapon from the building is not released. If someone goes outside, he is obliged to hand over weapons. Until now, all the weapons that were inside the building, they have a list.

- I communicated with the person who all this time was inside the SBU. According to him, the activists who seized the building of the Security Service of Ukraine in Lugansk - paratroopers, "Afghans", Chernobyl victims, special forces.

- Yes that's right. There are "Afghans", Chernobyl victims, retired military from Kharkov and Zaporozhye. There are former special forces. But the leadership there is non-professional military.


- Now we can predict how the situation will develop in the south-east in the near future?

- The army of Ukraine can still fill with blood the south-east. This may be a battalion recruited from the radicals. There may be some other units. With the "Right Sector" the current government also wants to work.

- Do the militias have a lot of weapons?

- There is a weapon.

- Looted the local police station?

- Yes. If not a single weapon left the SBU building in Luhansk, the weapon dispersed from the district police stations. Perhaps the militia have any other sources of arms supplies. But I do not know about it.

- Do you think that the Ukrainian Provisional Government doesn’t care what they think about them abroad, what does what they do look like?

- This is true. But they are justified, whatever they do. When we were in Kiev, inside the building that was being stormed, my assistants called the authorities to give us reinforcements, rescue people who were with me. So what do you think? We were refused. Then we contacted OSCE representatives. Received the answer: our mission is only to observe.

- How do people live in Ukraine today? They have not lost their jobs, they are paid a salary, retirement?

- Hard to live. The people who are still in the building of the SBU thought that they would sit there for 3 – 5 days, their comrades would be released and the situation would be resolved. But they stayed there much longer. Of course, they worry about their children, wives. They understand that they need to be fed, but there is no money. No money at all. They are men. They need to work. And so everywhere, all over Ukraine.

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  1. mig31
    mig31 April 24 2014 06: 45
    +5
    Money is evil, and evil destroys all, regardless of their number ...
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 24 2014 07: 11
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      Quote: mig31
      Money is evil, and evil destroys all, regardless of their number ...

      If morality is paramount, then money will not spoil. Another thing HOW to do it?
      And money ... What money? Exchange trade and barter to do? Finally, there will be a mess!
      Many people remember how in the 90s they paid out salaries.
    2. maks-101
      maks-101 April 24 2014 07: 17
      +5
      normal man and could unite Ukraine.
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 April 24 2014 10: 24
        +4
        The guy is really normal (if you take his word for it), but the party of regions did not promote him at all, he is practically unknown to us, I only learned from this article that he was in parliament 4 times ... He appeared on the screens only for the final the last coup is too late. But the main thing is that the banderlogs who usurped power stupidly prevent anyone from campaigning, or even just making a statement, stupidly pushing legal deputies from the rostrum of the parliament, staging fights, shutting us down. They will easily DELIVER whoever they want to be the president. Elections are just a screen; they are needed only to legitimize the coup, de facto, to turn it into de jure. I will vote for the Communists, I won’t go to the second round, I hope the turnout in the southeast will be minimal and the elections will not take place. Now the main thing is Donbass, they will hold out until the end of May, I will immediately after the elections in Donetsk. Now I can’t, - 1) I don’t have money, 2) I’m participating in the campaign from the Communists, - I go around the district to collect documents, statements from members of commissions and observers from the Communist Party of Ukraine, we are campaigning, we are distributing our press and symbols. Chances are zero, people are intimidated ...
        But we defended our monument to Lenin (we spent the night in cars for two weeks).
        1. washi
          washi April 24 2014 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: URAL72
          but the party of regions was not at all involved in its promotion, it is practically unknown to us, I only learned from this article that he’s in parliament 4 times

          And this is a plus. So ass does not lick.
          In peacetime, lizoblyuda are advanced.
          Heroes appear during the war.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov April 24 2014 10: 40
        +1
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        normal man and could unite Ukraine.

        The Party of Regions merged Ukraine, let now the people themselves decide their destiny. Death to the banderlogs.
      3. Sour
        Sour April 24 2014 13: 28
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        Quote: maks-xnumx
        normal man and could unite Ukraine.

        Ukraine will not be united by anyone.
        The unity of Donetsk and Lviv is utopia.
    3. Validator
      April 24 2014 07: 32
      +11
      EVEN FACES DO NOT CHANGE
    4. vlad_m
      vlad_m April 24 2014 08: 06
      +5
      Tsrev is a cool guy! Speaks sometimes clumsily, but it is fixable. This is profitable.
      He has a very correct attitude and inner titanium core in his soul! It means a lot!
      Under the leadership of this person, Ukraine will indeed be able to become an independent and large, self-sufficient country. A country of friendly Russia and Belarus. A country that can deal with internal strife and that can withstand external attacks.
      Ukraine, and indeed any other country, needs such a leader who will not allow the country to be litter. Which does not bend under threats. Who can defend the point of view of his people.
      Honor and praise for his position in life and unbending will!
      Full respect to his family for their understanding and support!
      1. Validator
        April 24 2014 09: 08
        +2
        I believe that Tsarev will become the president of Ukraine. Not now, but in the fall. And Ukraine by that time will already be a confederation
      2. washi
        washi April 24 2014 13: 35
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        Quote: vlad_m
        Under the leadership of this person, Ukraine will indeed be able to become an independent and large, self-sufficient country.

        Sorry, but I did not see his political position. Only general words against nationalists.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 06: 46
    +7
    As for Yulbka, he promises everyone everything, twirling. As hto doesn’t know. And so Tsarev didn’t say anything new. It would be better to stir up the revolution in Kharkov.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan April 24 2014 07: 06
      +9
      No, he does everything right. Someone should stir up the revolution, and someone should act harshly on the legal field, using all the tribunes, including the Rada. The enemy must be pulled apart in different directions, forced to think and choose between several fires. And since the junta has a problem with "thinking", then on the one hand Tsarev is needed, on the other the Militia of Sloviansk and Lugansk, on the third - Putin with his permission from the Federation Council to send troops, on the fourth - the world community, which is increasingly asking the question "But where are the extremists, then?" and begins to put pressure on its top.

      And as for the money for the work of the Kolomoisky formations - so I personally think that the Donbass Militia should be put on monetary allowance. To seek means for this with the whole world. There is nothing wrong with a warrior receiving a salary for service. The only question is what is he fighting for - for the homeland (and receives content by itself) or for the one who pays the most.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws April 24 2014 07: 43
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        Funds for the maintenance of the militia must be taken from the republican budget. In general, the situation in the region is not clear, some strange questions will be in a referendum: as part of Ukraine or a federation as part of Ukraine. What kind of crap. Does the people want this? Politicians in the southeast are worrying , including Tsarev, references to some notorious legal norms are untenable. As if they did not erase the people, their interests, did not give the southeast to Kiev. I agree with the doubts and fears of the militia commander A. Mozgov on this issue. It is necessary already now create the institutions of the republic, legitimize the people's army and ensure its content on May 9, and not May 11, hold a referendum on which two questions will be raised: the creation of a sovereign republic or republic within the Russian Federation.
        1. Validator
          April 24 2014 09: 25
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          Quote: krpmlws
          Funds for the maintenance of the militia must be taken from the republican budget.

          It is of course, only that access to this budget will be obtained by the DPR after the referendum. While Taruta rules there
        2. koshh
          koshh April 24 2014 10: 00
          +1
          Quote: krpmlws
          .It is now necessary to create the institutions of the republic, to legitimize the people's army and ensure its content on May 9, and not May 11, to hold a referendum on which two questions will be raised: the creation of a sovereign republic or republic within the Russian Federation.

          I totally agree.
      2. Validator
        April 24 2014 09: 10
        +1
        Quote: Magadan


        And as for the money for the work of the Kolomoisky formations - so I personally think that the Donbass Militia should be put on monetary allowance. To seek means for this with the whole world. There is nothing wrong with a warrior receiving a salary for service. The only question is what is he fighting for - for the homeland (and receives content by itself) or for the one who pays the most.

        It seems to me that in Russia it is necessary to create a social movement and a fund in support of the Southeast. There Kazakh one in the lungs collected 8 million rubles for the head of Kalomoy. Many would now chip in
      3. washi
        washi April 24 2014 13: 37
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        Quote: Magadan
        Donbass militia must be put on cash allowance.

        Kill Bandera and take his money, which he received for the murder of you and your family.
        In general, fighting for money is stupid.
        It is necessary to fight for the idea (for the homeland, for Stalin, for the supremacy of homosexuals, etc.)
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 24 2014 07: 14
      +2
      Sanya, he put it on the Russians, on Russia. The brave guy, in one hat, against bitches. He understands that the only way out is to Russia. Fucking policy.
      1. Validator
        April 24 2014 09: 27
        +1
        [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zWYxuBowo [/ img]
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Sanya, he put it on the Russians, on Russia. The brave guy, in one hat, against bitches. He understands that the only way out is to Russia. Fucking policy.

        He didn’t put Tsarev on Russia, it’s not conjuncture, he was always for an alliance with Russia, he argued with Yanek on this subject, he spoke in Parliament. For example:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zWYxuBowo
    3. Validator
      April 24 2014 09: 23
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      As for Yulbka, he promises everyone everything, twirling. As hto doesn’t know. And so Tsarev didn’t say anything new. It would be better to stir up the revolution in Kharkov.

      While there is an opportunity - Tsarev acts in the legal field. When he is finally pushed out of there, the revolution will stir up. By the way, this is what he said about the South-East immediately after the coup:

    4. koshh
      koshh April 24 2014 09: 55
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      .And so Tsarev did not say anything new.

      Or forgot to say how he persuaded to hold a referendum after May 25, after the junta makes itself legitimate. She does not have time to reorient herself, she rushes about.
  3. domokl
    domokl April 24 2014 07: 08
    +1
    It seems to me that Turchinov decided to play a new card. Closer to the elections, to begin a military operation with the help of a new battalion (the one that Yarosh is currently forming). With blood, with explosions and other attributes of Russian saboteurs.
    And according to the new law on elections, the appearance of the majority is not obligatory at all. So, in the east there are clashes with separatists, but the government, by the Ministry of Internal Affairs, ensures the holding of elections. in fact, it controls the electors and the voting options. Thus, two goals are achieved - elections are held, the second is chosen by those who are advantageous to Kiev (it is clear that the rebels will not go to choose). The people will actually make the choice necessary for Kiev.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 24 2014 07: 17
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      . The people themselves will actually make the choice Kiev needs.

      Yes, don’t bother with these elections! Does anyone have doubts about their results? So I don’t! We need to think about how to neutralize these elections, document violations, coercion, obstacles of expression of will .... And what they’ll be held by their beloved, and there will be no doubt that they’ll select a stays creature!
      1. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh April 24 2014 09: 50
        0
        I fully support. Repeatedly expressed this idea, but everyone has only a connection on the mind and cheers politician. At the moment, all efforts should be aimed at disrupting these elections (why is our Foreign Ministry silent?), Or else after the elections they will win back in the east and in the south, and they will get the Transcarpathia.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 07: 37
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      Thus, two goals are achieved - elections are held, the second - choose those who are profitable to Kiev (it is clear that the rebels will not go to choose).

      Hi Sanya! Russia does not recognize these elections in this way. Moreover, they do not recognize them in the east of the country. A new country has already taken place in fact.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 April 24 2014 08: 22
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        No fact. Do not rush.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 08: 25
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          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          No fact. Do not rush.

          There are other options?
      2. domokl
        domokl April 24 2014 09: 39
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Thus, Russia does not recognize these elections.

        Hi! Sasha, who needs recognition from Russia? Did the West recognize the annexation of Crimea? Did they respond to how Crimea differs from Kosovo? Yes, they wanted to spit on all these confessions ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 24 2014 10: 05
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          Quote: domokl
          ? Yes, they wanted to spit on all these confessions ...

          Sanya, they didn’t recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia, and so what? Now they don’t even remember about it in the West. So they made noise at the right time. As for the Crimea, they don’t give a damn whether they recognize or not. Crimea is part of Russia and they know it .
      3. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh April 24 2014 09: 52
        0
        There will be a variant of Kosovo, and the fact that we do not recognize the Americans do not care, as we do not recognize them to South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
    3. Validator
      April 24 2014 09: 14
      0
      Quote: domokl
      I think Turchinov decided to play a new card

      I think that in May there will be a big mess throughout the Southeast and this can not be stopped by anyone, everyone is in their original positions and just waiting for a reason to cling to each other's throats. The hot phase of civil war will begin
      1. domokl
        domokl April 24 2014 09: 42
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        Quote: Validator
        I think in May there will be a big mess throughout the Southeast

        And then you don’t need to think anything ... The Ukrainian media have already spread the start date of this very mess-9 of May ... Yarosh, trying to curry favor with the owners and passed on the information. Even without thinking that now something will need to be much more sophisticated invent...
      2. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh April 24 2014 09: 58
        0
        The turmoil will only happen if the pravoseki themselves climb. None of the "separatists" will attack anyone. Their units are scattered, no interconnection and interaction. Most importantly, there is no leader. In the place of Kiev, I would not touch them at all, they will sit and disperse. Moreover, thoughts are already spinning: there is no money, you need to feed your family ...
    4. koshh
      koshh April 24 2014 10: 04
      0
      Quote: domokl
      Closer to the elections, to begin a force operation with the help of a new battalion (of what Yarosh is currently forming), with blood, explosions, and other attributes of Russian saboteurs.


      And all so that the referendum of May 11 would not take place.
  4. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 24 2014 07: 12
    +3
    The bandits have to pay money, but to restore Kiev, destroyed by the same bandits, should the miners and the working people of the South-East, to "pacify" which the Kiev junta constantly sends an army?
    Completely OUTDOOR!
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 10: 01
      0
      Who orders music, he dances a girl. And they thought it would all pass by them? Let the guns sit further through the mines and factories, like a wordless one. They plowed and will still plow. The same collapse of the Union. Everyone was against it, but there was no country.
  5. lozh76
    lozh76 April 24 2014 07: 19
    +1
    America pays, and for this money you will go into slavery on their plantations. I THINK SO
  6. askort154
    askort154 April 24 2014 07: 23
    +1
    For some reason, not a word about the participation of the US and the EU in organizing and supporting the coup.
    Accident or intent?
    1. Validator
      April 24 2014 09: 18
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      For some reason, not a word about the participation of the US and the EU in organizing and supporting the coup.
      Accident or intent?


      This Tsarev even said before the coup.
      And now constantly talking about it
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 24 2014 09: 46
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        Validator ...... This Tsarev even said before the coup.
        And now he constantly talks about it.

        Thank you, I see. But today Ponamorev spoke out against Tsarev in MK. Does he not recognize the type of SE ?! I would like to believe Tsarev, but there is a BUT! His words in the article: - ".. I don't like being led"! Arrogant stupidity. There is no such person on Earth who - "no one leads."
        1. Validator
          April 24 2014 15: 34
          0
          Quote: askort154
          Validator ...... This Tsarev even said before the coup.
          And now he constantly talks about it.

          Thank you, I see. But today Ponamorev spoke out against Tsarev in MK. Does he not recognize the type of SE ?! I would like to believe Tsarev, but there is a BUT! His words in the article: - ".. I don't like being led"! Arrogant stupidity. There is no such person on Earth who - "no one leads."

          This is just a life position. I am not in vain harnessing for Tsarev. He studied with him at the same department, lived in the same hostel in neighboring rooms. And I also do not like anyone to lead me. There are two ideas: the separation from Ukraine of several regions and the USSR-2 with the whole of Ukraine as a part. You can argue for a long time which one is more correct and achievable, but the second is still more desirable. Tsarev and I are supporters of the idea of ​​the USSR-2, Ponamarev is a supporter of separation.
    2. Fin
      Fin April 24 2014 10: 44
      0
      Quote: askort154
      For some reason, not a word about the participation of the US and the EU in organizing and supporting the coup.
      Accident or intent?

      The other day, Lavrov said. For more serious accusations, apparently, is not the time.
  7. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 24 2014 07: 24
    +4
    Good interview. Calm, reasonable. Tsarev, of course, is now not at all easy to act in the legal field. But in vain he went to the Natsiks unarmed. Okay, I got it on the face - it's a shame, but it will heal, and I could have a lance in the side, then it would be really sad. A politician of this level needs to make informed decisions and remember that retreat is only one of a kind of maneuver along with an attack and flank girth. Hold on, Oleg, rot your line and do not substitute. People need such leaders alive.
    1. koshh
      koshh April 24 2014 10: 12
      +1
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Okay, I got it on the face - it's a shame, but it will heal, and I could have a lance in the side, then it would be really sad.


      The right sector did not have such a task - "lance to the side". Why do they need a martyr for the southeast - almost a saint? And Tsarev is a classic wrestler. On the "face" - will endure.
  8. sem-yak
    sem-yak April 24 2014 07: 52
    +1
    Here the scientist will turn out of it. It is necessary to conduct experiments there slowly, but in order to raise, rally and lead the masses, it is necessary to act decisively and actively! That junta, she doesn’t give a damn about public opinion, about order, about legality! I do not think that this is correct, but in the current situation - With wolves as they say by wolf! There is no Explicit Leader in the Southeast, so become one. And there will be a clear leader, so Russia will know who to help!
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 10: 04
      0
      He cannot be pulled by a leader; brains do not work like that. One phrase would die itself, another would not kill the call of conviction - these are not the leader’s words, how to send the masses to the slaughter? Then justify how Yanukovych did not want blood?
  9. maxim1
    maxim1 April 24 2014 07: 54
    +1
    Quote: Validator
    EVEN FACES DO NOT CHANGE

    Do you know what tectonics is? It is a reflection outside what is inside.
    In this case, it is one and the same. That is, the same genetic set.
    Genes match.
  10. individual
    individual April 24 2014 07: 56
    +1
    No matter what they do in Ukraine after the Maidan events, if this is something that will not be loyal to Russia, it will not matter for the political arrangement of Ukraine.
    Washington and Brussels without Moscow are nothing in Ukraine.
  11. philip
    philip April 24 2014 08: 01
    +3
    - I have always loved physics, chemistry. Finishing school, I thought for a long time where to go. I could not decide. I also showed good results in the classic wrestling. My coach thought that I needed to seriously pursue a sports career. I had invitations to a number of Moscow universities. The fact is that I won all the olympiads in physics, chemistry, programming. I grew up a boy who studied a lot and well. And I studied physics with pleasure. As a result, I entered the MEPI, there was a group leader there. Subsequently became the first student who graduated from this educational institution as an external student.


    Yes, a free simple story. In ancient times, Physics and Chemistry, and everything else was attached to them, was called ... NATURPHILOSOPHY. In Soviet times, NATURE.
    Without this knowledge, to be a politician is NOT POSSIBLE.
  12. philip
    philip April 24 2014 08: 17
    0
    Quote: Philip
    - I have always loved physics, chemistry. Finishing school, I thought for a long time where to go. I could not decide. I also showed good results in the classic wrestling. My coach thought that I needed to seriously pursue a sports career. I had invitations to a number of Moscow universities. The fact is that I won all the olympiads in physics, chemistry, programming. I grew up a boy who studied a lot and well. And I studied physics with pleasure. As a result, I entered the MEPI, there was a group leader there. Subsequently became the first student who graduated from this educational institution as an external student.


    Yes, a free simple story. In ancient times, Physics and Chemistry, and everything else was attached to them, was called ... NATURPHILOSOPHY. In Soviet times, NATURE.
    Without this knowledge, to be a politician is NOT POSSIBLE.
    An example for this is Barack Obama
  13. Horly
    Horly April 24 2014 08: 23
    +1
    The interview, in fact, is about nothing - nothing is said about the methods of overcoming the political and economic crisis, about the further fate of the south and southeast. From the category - and talk ?!
    1. koshh
      koshh April 24 2014 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: Horly
      . From discharge - and talk


      No, really. he still has no vision for the future. Yes, he calculated, decided, put on the trump card - Russia. Let's hope that he will turn out to be a politician. After all, it was not in vain that I studied at MEPhI., And as I understand it, not bad.
      1. Validator
        April 24 2014 15: 37
        0
        Quote: koshh
        Quote: Horly
        . From discharge - and talk


        No, really. he still has no vision for the future. Yes, he calculated, decided, put on the trump card - Russia. Let's hope that he will turn out to be a politician. After all, it was not in vain that I studied at MEPhI., And as I understand it, not bad.

        If someone does not know, MEPhI is an intellectual elite. Nuclear physics is no joke
  14. 1812 1945
    1812 1945 April 24 2014 08: 27
    +3
    Quote: mig31
    Money is evil, and evil destroys all, regardless of their number ...

    It's like that. Only, it's strange ... Whose money is it ?! There is no due attention to the main "initiator of the revolution" - the United States! And without this, the description of the internal conflict resembles the depiction of a storm in a glass of water. Tsarev is right - for the most part, the people of Ukraine do not want to shoot each other. To drag for forelocks is as usual ... But such a brutal, rigidly organized run over our own statehood (whatever it may be, yes - they sawed everything they could, but tried not to saw through the branch on which they were sitting - not to lead to genocide!) could only be organized by third-party participants in the process.
  15. rocketman
    rocketman April 24 2014 09: 16
    0
    Quote: 1812 1945
    But such a brutal, rigidly organized run over of their own statehood (whatever it was, yes - they sawed everything they could, but tried not to cut the branch on which they were sitting - not to bring to genocide!) Could be organized only by outside participants in the process.

    Quite right. On the Maidan, the Pravosek people were paid in dollars. Then they stopped paying when they put the pastor in power. And they fled to their homes and villages. And it's funny to hear in the Russian media and read, including on this resource, about the threats of the "first sector". There are almost no ideological ones, no money - no shares. Do you really believe that these marginalized people are able to gather in a battalion, submit to discipline, engage in combat training and go to war? Yes, for nothing, even for the grandmother, which is not, it is impossible.
    Just a lot of them "mow" under them. Let's say I know people who put a flag on the right sector on their car (inside). To my question - "why", the answer was "traffic cops do not stop, stut".
    In general, there is no money - no shares. It’s only in the army, if they don’t pay a salary, people still serve ... Because as the Motherland ...
  16. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 24 2014 09: 33
    +1
    Strength is not in money, but in truth. Therefore, the victory will be ours.
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 11: 36
      +1
      Stop carrying nonsense from topic to topic. Will you go to a tank or armored personnel carrier (BMP) with a brick and a stick? No weapons are needed, but they need to be bought (as an alternative to steal). Therefore, the first informational support of the rebels on all possible means of communication, the second money, the third weapon, food, etc. But there is no one to give it to, everyone is scattered, there is no single center and leader (one gives directions from the dungeons of the SBU, the other proclaims a republic on the Internet from Russia). Therefore, all these good undertakings and thoughts at this stage are fiction (but warming the soul).
      1. Belarus
        Belarus April 24 2014 12: 00
        +1
        In principle, I’m forced to agree with some of your statements. If the city’s population is such and such and goes to the rally (both on weekends and after work) there is so much in essence and there is nobody to help.
        Sitting and waiting or going stupidly to work and thinking that everything will work out is stupid and not far-sighted. If you have already shown that in Ukraine they are actually building a modern concentration camp in every region of S and B, for those who do not want to live in fascist Ukraine, well then they say there is only one thing: to die standing with his head proudly raised or on his knees with his head bowed and the way the children will live later ... maybe there won't be anything later.
        I apologize if I was harsh, but I can’t do otherwise.
        1. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh April 24 2014 13: 00
          +1
          I agree with you completely. Only not many people want to die. Most people think I’m going to sit in a mine, pay money and don’t unfasten money on the Maidan - and you will be happy.
  17. siberalt
    siberalt April 24 2014 11: 23
    0
    Presidential states are banging and nothing is changing. To run for candidate means to recognize the Kiev junta. He will not score any points there. It remains to make a loud statement to PACE about the reasons for leaving the electoral race, while still alive. And, most likely, SE will refuse to participate in the elections. He does not have a real electorate. There is experience in parliamentary work - let the Donetsk Republic go online.
  18. asar
    asar April 24 2014 12: 46
    +1
    Tsarev, seemingly strong! In words - too! What is he in real life - time will tell!
  19. andj61
    andj61 April 24 2014 13: 30
    0
    Quote: Validator
    Quote: krpmlws
    Funds for the maintenance of the militia must be taken from the republican budget.

    It is of course, only that access to this budget will be obtained by the DPR after the referendum. While Taruta rules there


    Be sure to end with dual power and completely take power into your own hands!
    1. Validator
      April 24 2014 15: 39
      0
      Quote: andj61
      Quote: Validator
      Quote: krpmlws
      Funds for the maintenance of the militia must be taken from the republican budget.

      It is of course, only that access to this budget will be obtained by the DPR after the referendum. While Taruta rules there


      Be sure to end with dual power and completely take power into your own hands!

      From Russia it is easy to judge. I think they take it, they do everything in their power. And we need to create a movement in support of the Southeast
  20. washi
    washi April 24 2014 13: 31
    0
    But the leadership there is an unprofessional military.
    It can be seen.
    Work without a plan is empty work.
    There is no specifics, agitation, defense and support of the regions is not established.
  21. BlackJack
    BlackJack April 24 2014 22: 01
    0
    Washington must be destroyed !!!