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Russia has the right to help the South-East of Ukraine

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The protesters are in a difficult and strange position today, defending their human dignity South-East of Ukraine. In fact, in the blockade. The units of the Kiev junta faithful surround him with checkpoints, the CU-CIA together with the militants of the Right Sector attack civilians, and continue to arrest and kidnap protest activists, “unidentified persons” make armed attacks on fortified militia stations of the Donetsk Republic. There are victims.


The borders of Ukraine are closed for the Russians, even a journalist is not easy to overcome, and under the pretext of possible assistance to the insurgent Pitmen. This is done for show, demonstratively. Through the border of Ukraine is not allowed already to relatives. “This is just a madhouse!” Said the guy who was driving home to his mother at the border.

It is clear that with such a policy of “de-escalation”, the Donetsk Republic and the entire South-East of Ukraine will soon become a zone of humanitarian disaster, man-made disaster, which, it seems, the Bandera authorities set themselves the goal ...

However, what a stark contrast of the South-East protest with the Bandera "peaceful protest" of well-armed militants in Kiev! Tokmo for the sake of European values, and free travel to Europe, they defeated the center of Kiev - dozens of policemen were killed, thousands of civilians were injured! - made an armed coup d'etat, with the full approval of this outrage by the Western public and governments.

The West then provided extensive humanitarian and other assistance to the militants: with money, touching plots in the Western media, and finally, cookies directly from the US State Department from Victoria Nuland. Washington provided a political "roof" for Banderovites, and blackmailed sanctions against the legal government of Ukraine, in the event of resistance to the militants, which eventually led to the seizure of power by them. Justifying this banditry, the Western organizers called it "revolution", but then it is Bandera and neo-Nazi "revolution".

Today, the Russian-speaking Donbass, for the Russian Ukraine, for the right to speak Russian, for the values ​​of the “Russian world”, came out against this Bandera “revolution” - and was blockaded by Washington and the democratic Western public. What a touching unity of the West with the Ukrainian Nazis! And US Vice President Joe Biden had the nerve to threaten Russia with sanctions "if supported by the protesters in Ukraine"!

But, if Bandera "have the right" to the nationalist "revolution", then the South-East of Ukraine has the full right to a democratic revolution! And Russia has the right to support it!

Russia is today in a situation in which the West has just been, and should probably act just like the West on its Maidan. That is, to provide the protesting South-East with any assistance that is not prohibited by law, and to demand from the Kiev authorities non-use of violence against the protesters. To demand to open the border for humanitarian aid, but not to open it — to turn to medicine that the West immediately prescribes in such cases — sanctions that refresh the mind! So that there is no need to deal with the consequences of a humanitarian catastrophe.

In the meantime ... the OSCE cannot find traces of Russian intervention, and in order to justify Washington’s trust, it has to see "signs" of a foreign presence. The OSCE, I remember, was not on the Maidan, and the Russian humanitarian presence should soon become tangible and effective in the South-East of Ukraine, like the presence of the West on Maidan.

... Joe Biden visited Kiev the other day, where he embraced Yatsenyuk, talked about democracy with Turchinov. Everyone expected that he would call Ukraine the next “torch of democracy”, as he called Georgia at the time under Saakashvili, when he also visited her with a blessing visit. The Georgian “torch of democracy” turned into an attack on South Ossetia, persecution, murder and torture of opponents of the Saakashvili regime. The new Georgian authorities are demanding that Saakashvili face the law, but he is hiding in the United States ... there's nothing to be done, the States are a gangster country!

So Biden's visit to Kiev is a very bad sign for the Kiev junta, and a warning that she will not stop at the murders and torture of her political opponents, as well as Saakashvili. But Russia will not allow the latter, she remembers the Georgian “torch of democracy”, and it's time to remind him of Biden and Washington.
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  1. Validator
    Validator April 24 2014 07: 30
    +108
    And they call us separatists?
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 24 2014 07: 41
      +94
      Quote: Validator
      And they call us separatists?

      Who calls he will answer.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 24 2014 14: 27
        +7
        On the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry found the text of the Geneva Agreement (statement) for Ukraine:


        Geneva Statement of April 17, 2014, agreed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Russia, the USA, Ukraine and the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy


        At the Geneva meeting on the situation in Ukraine, initial concrete measures were agreed upon to de-escalate tensions and restore security for all citizens.

        All parties should refrain from any violence, intimidation and provocation. The meeting participants strongly condemned and rejected any manifestation of extremism, racism and religious intolerance, including anti-Semitism.

        All illegal armed groups must be disarmed; all illegally seized buildings must be returned to their rightful owners; all illegally occupied streets, squares and other public places in Ukrainian cities and towns should be freed.

        Participants in protests and persons who leave buildings and other public places and surrender weapons, with the exception of those who have committed particularly serious crimes, will be amnestied.

        It was agreed that the OSCE special monitoring mission should play a leading role in assisting the Ukrainian authorities and local communities in the immediate implementation of these measures to reduce tensions where this is most important, starting such work in the coming days. The EU, Russia and the United States are committed to supporting this mission, including by sending observers.

        The announced constitutional process will be inclusive, transparent and accountable. It will provide for the immediate start of a broad national dialogue covering all regions and political entities of Ukraine, and will also take into account public comments and proposed amendments.

        The meeting participants emphasized the importance of economic and financial stability in Ukraine and expressed their readiness to discuss the possibility of providing additional support after the implementation of the above measures.

        I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that this paper does not oblige anyone to anything.
        If it were written:
        _______________________________________________________________________
        Russia assumes obligations for: 1 .... 2 .... 3 ...
        The USA assumes obligations 1 ... 2 ... 3 ...
        Ukraine takes on obligations 1 ... 2 ... 3 ...
        Control over the fulfillment of obligations is entrusted to part 1 of clause 1 .... part 1 of clause 2 .... part 2 of clause 1. ...
        In the case of non-fulfillment of obligations by Russia, the USA has the right .... Ukraine has the right ...
        In case of failure to fulfill obligations by Ukraine, Russia has the right .... The USA has the right ...
        This contract is drawn up ...
        and signed by representatives ....
        -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
        That could be something to demand from someone. And this is simply a declaration of intent that does not oblige any of the parties to anything.
      2. Sinara70
        Sinara70 April 24 2014 17: 23
        +16
        Now this is the very moment when it is necessary to join the FSB and GRU special forces in the South-East ....
        Procrastination of death is like ... !!!!
        1. persei
          persei April 24 2014 17: 55
          +14
          Yes it is! GRU special forces ... there would be to the place. And then the local militia .. it's still a militia, without work experience, without competent command, and most importantly, without the required weapons .. against armored personnel carriers, tanks, helicopters.
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko April 25 2014 20: 51
            0
            heh, so the saddles from the shotgun burned the spinner, cool guys !!! drinks
        2. Nick
          Nick April 24 2014 19: 20
          +4
          Quote: Sinara70
          Now this is the very moment when it is necessary to join the FSB and GRU special forces in the South-East ....
          Procrastination of death is like ... !!!!

          No alarming calls! I think our special services know what to do ...
          1. bda
            bda April 24 2014 20: 05
            +2
            Nick (1) Today, 19:20 p.m. ↑

            Quote: Sinara70
            Now this is the very moment when it is necessary to join the FSB and GRU special forces in the South-East ....
            Procrastination of death is like ... !!!!

            No alarming calls! I think our special services know what to do ...

            When it is necessary to decide whether to send people into battle or not, the most valuable thing is the people's opinion on this matter. And to rely on "a big giraffe, he knows better", this, excuse me, is the well-known position of the ostrich.
            1. Nick
              Nick April 24 2014 20: 56
              +4
              Quote: bda
              When it is necessary to decide whether or not to send people into battle, the most valuable thing is the opinion of the people in this regard.

              Who told you this? Marshal Zhukov? Or Gennericimus Suvorov? Yes, everyone imagines himself a stratigue, seeing the battle from the side ...
              Do not talk nonsense. The decision on hostilities must be made by professional commanders. Or are you against the principle of unity of command in the sun? Did you even serve in the army? I think no.
              Quote: bda
              And to rely on "a big giraffe, he knows better", this, excuse me, is the well-known position of the ostrich.

              And what is your statement based on? Justify.
            2. jajature
              jajature April 25 2014 00: 32
              -8
              Are you sure that everyone in the East wants special forces ...
              1. smartly
                smartly April 25 2014 00: 57
                0
                zombie-confident
                1. jajature
                  jajature April 25 2014 01: 30
                  -1
                  who do you mean
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          2. KALININGRAD
            KALININGRAD April 24 2014 22: 34
            +3
            FULLY TRUE
      3. Sinara70
        Sinara70 April 24 2014 17: 23
        +1
        Now this is the very moment when it is necessary to join the FSB and GRU special forces in the South-East ....
        Procrastination of death is like ... !!!!
        1. Nick
          Nick April 24 2014 21: 01
          +2
          Yes, you either don’t understand what you’re talking about, or you are a provocateur ... Do you push on patriotism?
        2. smartly
          smartly April 25 2014 00: 58
          0
          entered already, now you stink
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 24 2014 07: 54
      -15%
      The cattle will die. And according to the analysis of the article, very emotions in bulk, and the analysis is zero. Who is the author? Like this.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 24 2014 07: 59
        +26
        Russia probably has the right to save everyone without the protection of whom the Americans are hitting.
        1. smartly
          smartly April 25 2014 00: 59
          0
          protect yourself from the putler at first, the Germans at the beginning of the Second World War also rejoiced ...
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      3. Roman1970
        Roman1970 April 24 2014 09: 14
        -16%
        There are really a lot of emotions ... And here's another: Kiev in the media calls us "Russian occupiers", and we, apparently, in response, say "Kiev junta". What for, you ask? You should not be like Kiev, otherwise it turns out some kind of kindergarten ... Like, you called me, here's a return line for you!
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 April 24 2014 10: 21
          +11
          If you call "it" as it should, relying on the norms of international law (and simply - criminal) - it will be much cruder than the junta - junta - an assembly, association, governing body ... Nothing personal, only linguistics.
        2. skeptic
          skeptic April 24 2014 12: 02
          +16
          Quote: Roman1970
          and we, apparently, in response, say "Kiev junta". What for, you ask?


          Well, apparently, in your mind they should be called legal invaders or pro-American patriots. But as a pro-fascist dictatorship, do not smear honey, people in the South-East of Ukraine, all the same, will not stop dying.

          But how, by and large, did the Americans think of becoming independent - was Russia also to blame? After all, they themselves, could not have thought of the desire to become free, without the machinations of Moscow.
          1. DeOS78RU
            DeOS78RU April 24 2014 12: 13
            +2
            you are wrong, skeptic ... it was not the machinations of Moscow, but the machinations of St. Petersburg that were to blame. fellow
            1. smartly
              smartly April 25 2014 01: 01
              0
              common sense is
        3. Demo
          Demo April 24 2014 15: 54
          +9
          I did not get that??? and what should we call them loved ones? completely fucked up or what?

          They were given the correct definition. HUENTA and in Africa HUENTA
          1. persei
            persei April 24 2014 18: 08
            +13
            Here, when we seize enterprises, when dismantling gangs, we call them organized crime groups ... but what is better for Bandera? This is also an organized criminal group- (and moreover, under the control of the United States) -Bandera ....
            1. jajature
              jajature April 25 2014 00: 38
              -1
              Dear, why call everyone Bendera .... and who are they ...
              1. smartly
                smartly April 25 2014 01: 02
                0
                you have to be proud of it
                1. jajature
                  jajature April 25 2014 01: 32
                  -1
                  one must be proud of achievements, not names ... well, I’m not a Bendera ... but as I understand it in the Russian Federation, we all have the same size
                2. jajature
                  jajature April 25 2014 01: 32
                  -1
                  one must be proud of achievements, not names ... well, I’m not a Bendera ... but as I understand it in the Russian Federation, we all have the same size
                  1. I am proud of Russia
                    I am proud of Russia April 25 2014 17: 49
                    +3
                    jajature Today, 01:32 ↑
                    one must be proud of achievements, not names ... well, I’m not a Bendera ... but as I understand it in the Russian Federation, we all have the same size

                    Yes, dear, do not worry. Normal adequate people live in the Russian Federation, who understand the difference in terminology and to whom it is necessary to apply it. At least in Russia there is no ban on the media. We look and evaluate everything that happens and Ukrainian sites are also visible and what they write on them. If you have the opportunity to watch not only Ukraine’s zombies, then watch and draw conclusions yourself.
                    1. Park52
                      Park52 April 26 2014 23: 41
                      0
                      I have long appreciated the situation, on the Russian TV channels they carry the same nonsense, as on the Ukrainian ones, only in profile and mounted better.
                      Now there is an informative war, and nothing can be done about it.
              2. sso-xnumx
                sso-xnumx April 25 2014 10: 27
                +2
                Bendera - residents of the city of Bender, this is in Moldova. They have nothing to do with the events in Ukraine.
                1. Berkut-UA
                  Berkut-UA April 26 2014 00: 40
                  +1
                  This is a common typo
                  write "Bendera" and rightly - "Bandera"
                  And the root of the word says what's what - GangYerovets are followers of Stephen Bandera.
        4. Viktor Shmagin
          Viktor Shmagin April 24 2014 20: 54
          +4
          In the word junta, an error in the third letter, instead of H ,, one must read E
        5. magosvel
          magosvel April 24 2014 23: 10
          +1
          The fact is that they call us names, and we call them.
        6. Park52
          Park52 April 26 2014 23: 38
          0
          I have the same opinion. Russia is not trying to prove something to someone, Putin is simply taking the opportunity, as Tymoshenko’s gang took advantage.
      4. Roman1970
        Roman1970 April 24 2014 09: 14
        -9
        There are really a lot of emotions ... And here's another: Kiev in the media calls us "Russian occupiers", and we, apparently, in response, say "Kiev junta". What for, you ask? You should not be like Kiev, otherwise it turns out some kind of kindergarten ... Like, you called me, here's a return line for you!
        1. Tima
          Tima April 24 2014 12: 59
          +17
          I do not like the JUNTA, we will call the BAND. The fascist meaning of the Kiev Bandera will not change.
          1. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 25 2014 17: 52
            0
            Tima Yesterday, 12:59 ↑
            I do not like the JUNTA, we will call the BAND. The fascist meaning of the Kiev Bandera will not change.

            Absolutely right! The essence of this does not change.
          2. Park52
            Park52 April 26 2014 23: 45
            0
            I live in Kiev, I have not seen the Nazis here, no one throws a ridge and does not hang a swastika. Listen to TV more, the authorities need us to be stupid. The dumber the people, the easier it is to manage.
        2. mamont5
          mamont5 April 24 2014 13: 12
          +6
          Quote: Roman1970
          There are really a lot of emotions ... And here's another: Kiev in the media calls us "Russian occupiers", and we, apparently, in response, say "Kiev junta".


          What should I call? The junta, in this case, is not an insult, but a statement of fact, i.e. an illegal self-proclaimed government that came to power through an armed coup.
          1. gfnhbjnrf
            gfnhbjnrf April 24 2014 18: 39
            +2
            Unfortunately, we have a lot of people, even having the Internet, I do not want to watch the meaning of the word
          2. Park52
            Park52 April 26 2014 23: 47
            0
            Simply gang easier.
        3. dalekiy
          dalekiy April 24 2014 20: 00
          +1
          Things should be called by their proper names. This removes a lot of questions.
      5. comprochikos
        comprochikos April 24 2014 10: 36
        +8
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        emotion in bulk — a zero analysis

        Go to the hospital for analysis. And here it is not necessary to analyze, everything is already turned inside out, the goals of all sides are clear as day. It's time to move from analysis to action, as the "great" Joe said.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          April 24 2014 12: 14
          +10
          I agree that a revolution is underway in Ukraine, and it is important to put forward the correct slogans of the day in time, and in general, for the public, in general, it is more important not to analyze, but to assess the situation with appropriate conclusions. Analytical articles ... - it is hard to "eat" them, and they rarely carry special discoveries.
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      7. Normal
        Normal April 24 2014 13: 36
        +4
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Who is author?


        The author is specified. Yes, Viktor Kamenev is really very emotional, sins with propaganda cliches and always speaks from pro-government positions. But there are quite successful articles. This may not be a masterpiece, but in principle, everything is true.
        Analysis?
        Well, my friend, there are few analysts ... good - especially great ones - are few and they don’t write, they work not for the public.
      8. Skif
        Skif April 25 2014 02: 08
        0
        Respected! Who do you think are the brutes? Who needs to die? You do not live up to your internet chase. Be careful with the expressions, "reasonable", if you have everything for fun .. uhu, hey, as they say in Ukrainian, don't shit on others, CATTLE
    3. vadimus
      vadimus April 24 2014 09: 37
      +7
      Of course help! And also Kiev is time to treat the plague!
      1. valerei
        valerei April 24 2014 11: 17
        +13
        Quote: vadimus
        Of course help! And also Kiev is time to treat the plague!

        Speaking of the plague. Yesterday they showed on the "TV box" that Bandera blocked the already paid for Crimea !! water and, as the locals say, no more than three weeks and the future harvest will have to be written off! And this is already called genocide! Of course, we will not allow hunger in Crimea, but what losses will be for the Russian treasury! I wonder how our authorities will react to this crime? Will the Washington regional committee be persuaded by diplomatic language again to influence Bandera's Kiev? Or something else? And will they drive free gas to Ukraine?
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 April 24 2014 12: 36
          +12
          .... Do not hysteria about the water in the Crimea ... Drinking in reservoirs (almost everything from melt and rain is replenished - enough for drinking for the whole year), and the Dnieper for irrigation of irrigated lands mainly .... Well, there won’t be vegetables .... So in the Crimea, and so almost all the imported goods were (visitors were given to tourists for their local markets - I can immediately see it as Krymchanin and it’s fun, like a merchant sells Turkish peaches for the Crimean for example .... :))) ) Their own gardens are all poh..li ... Vegetables and fruits were also imported from Kherson, Nikolaev and ... the Caucasus !!! For information: in the Crimea mainly WINTER wheat of exporting SOLID varieties is grown (harvesting begins at the end of May ....) Of course it is sad that there are problems with the Dnieper water, but not fatal !!!!
          1. smartly
            smartly April 25 2014 01: 05
            0
            not scary, think little Sahara))
      2. aleks 62
        aleks 62 April 24 2014 12: 27
        +8
        .... At least the supply of small arms, RPGs (preferably "Shmelikov") and volunteer instructors ...
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      4. jajature
        jajature April 25 2014 00: 43
        +1
        Well, I was in Kiev and in addition to the Maidan (and Toko baricades remained) ... everything lives like on the Maidan .... Toko Dolar and gasoline climbed up
    4. Validator
      Validator April 24 2014 09: 41
      +6
      It is necessary to organize in Russia a social movement to help the Southeast and a fund for material assistance. And then they have not even found the money for a referendum.
      1. OST_51RU
        OST_51RU April 25 2014 00: 23
        +1
        It would be logical to place information on the collection of aid for the southeast at the top of the information tape, and so that this information does not fall to the bottom, it is constantly at the very top.
        I wonder if there are moderators here, and is it possible to accomplish this.
    5. yulka2980
      yulka2980 April 24 2014 09: 47
      +3
      Beautiful girls love
    6. Validator
      Validator April 24 2014 10: 43
      +10

      Meanwhile, in Lugansk, the SBU has a wedding near the Anthem of Russia
      1. mokr77
        mokr77 April 24 2014 22: 45
        0
        THIS SUPER PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE PERFORMING CORRECTLY
        1. smartly
          smartly April 25 2014 01: 08
          0
          the sweeter the dope, the stronger BUDUN
    7. Validator
      Validator April 24 2014 10: 51
      +25
      Walked and that's enough :)
      1. smartly
        smartly April 25 2014 01: 09
        0
        atom fascists walk around abroad
    8. alex_83
      alex_83 April 24 2014 23: 38
      +3
      everything. the boiling point has passed. the war has begun. get up the Russian people. or they are either we. yes or no. wake up. there is no way back. Moscow is behind us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. smartly
        smartly April 25 2014 01: 11
        0
        and before us is Kamchatka, the main thing is that we should not be tracked by smell
    9. igor06161
      igor06161 April 26 2014 16: 34
      +1
      We remember that, and these curvatures of politics began to be forgotten! moreover, not ours, but fuck ... whose Amer and gay European machine gun in their ass!
    10. Park52
      Park52 April 26 2014 23: 36
      0
      And people play with them, there is nothing to wave the tricolor, it acts like a red rag on a bull on the crazy ones, wave the flag of the Donetsk Republic already.
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 April 24 2014 07: 30
    +37
    Russia is obliged to help the southeast!
    1. Very old
      Very old April 24 2014 07: 36
      +34
      Right.
      Not just the right to help. It is our responsibility.
      So many Russian people are scattered across the expanses of the "former", it is necessary to provide them with the Future
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 24 2014 10: 05
        +15
        Quote: Old very
        Right.
        Not just the right to help. It is our responsibility.
        So many Russian people are scattered across the expanses of the "former", it is necessary to provide them with the Future

        +1

        I noticed that the hydrometeocenter started broadcasting on the central weather in Kharkov, Donetsk and Lugansk. I remember that before the Crimean referendum, he also began to broadcast weather on the peninsula.
        I think that soon I will report on the weather in Odessa, Kherson and Nikolaev. All you need is a little patience.
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 April 24 2014 12: 40
          +14
          ..... True, I noticed the old .... The trick is that Kyiv still broadcasts the forecast for the Crimea on radio and TV .... We're having a lot of fun here ... :)))))))
        2. smartly
          smartly April 25 2014 01: 14
          0
          the main thing is that in Moscow the city does not fall
      2. AVV
        AVV April 24 2014 10: 28
        +11
        Quote: Old very
        Right.
        Not just the right to help. It is our responsibility.
        So many Russian people are scattered across the expanses of the "former", it is necessary to provide them with the Future

        Deal with Ukraine and the Baltic states to pay more attention !!! To block the transit of our goods through their ports !!! Throw America out of the entire post-Soviet space !!!
        1. Park52
          Park52 April 26 2014 23: 55
          0
          You didn’t ask yourself a question. Does the Baltic need your help? Russia is far from the standard of success.
      3. smartly
        smartly April 25 2014 01: 13
        0
        in Kamchatka
    2. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 12: 19
      0
      Glad to help - but to whom?
    3. aleks 62
      aleks 62 April 24 2014 12: 38
      +9
      ....Yes Yes!!!! And preferably light weapons, and not just words .... And urgently !!!!
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 24 2014 20: 24
        +2
        Quote: aleks 62
        ....Yes Yes!!!! And preferably light weapons, and not just words .... And urgently !!!!

        And from other cities there is an opportunity to fail or have all roads been blocked?
      2. Park52
        Park52 April 26 2014 23: 57
        -1
        And even better with chemical weapons, that the Slavs finally killed each other and blacks, Jews and chocks could live better.
    4. smartly
      smartly April 25 2014 01: 12
      0
      we have a lot of shit so we also export it
  3. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 24 2014 07: 31
    +12
    A flock of jackals woke the bear and now does not know how not to fall into his paws. It only remains for them to bark from far away and poop under the bushes.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen April 24 2014 09: 16
      +6
      Quote: Tatarus
      It only remains for them to bark from far away and poop under the bushes.


      What, in principle, they have been doing since birth ... periodically, however, they bite, drooling rabies ... until they get it in the face ... and then into the bushes - poop)))
  4. lexx2038
    lexx2038 April 24 2014 07: 38
    +22
    Well, if the Americans consider that they have the right to dispose in Ukraine, then God himself ordered us!
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 24 2014 11: 07
      +4
      Quote: lexx2038
      Well, if the Americans consider that they have the right to dispose in Ukraine, then God himself ordered us!

      Especially on the original Russian lands with which we kicked under the zoo drove the wretch coming to us from the west !!
    2. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 28 2014 08: 09
      0
      What about the organization of the coup in Mexico.
      And blame the states for destabilizing the American continent.
      In this connection - to set up air and rocket bases
      in Latin America
  5. lozh76
    lozh76 April 24 2014 07: 39
    +7
    Southeast is coal, metallurgy, electricity, etc. then it’s better to drown with all the Maidan in the Black Sea.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus April 24 2014 07: 41
      +14
      Do not FIG any garbage in our Russian Sea dump. Let them go to the Hudson to drown
    2. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin April 24 2014 07: 55
      +14
      Southeast is coal, metallurgy, electricity I.T.D

      salt mines ... and a quarter of all reserves in the world of manganese
      1. 120352
        120352 April 24 2014 08: 15
        +8
        Rostovchanin
        Useful information, and some people think that the Southeast will become an economic burden for us. Now it is clear that both salt and manganese are an excellent currency to justify excessively the entry of New Russia into the composition of Great Russia, Russia.
        1. Very old
          Very old April 24 2014 11: 03
          +6
          My good 120352 - YOU wanted to say: W H O R S P E R S E N I! New Russia ...

          (Your rush is clear - the keyboard ... did not wait)

          Nevertheless, I welcome YOU! Everyone will return to their native nest
          1. smartly
            smartly April 25 2014 01: 17
            0
            in your noticeable big and black phallus
    3. bytkeev
      bytkeev April 24 2014 08: 51
      +10
      All of Ukraine is fed at the expense of the southeast, here they are F @ pu and tear ...
      1. Zmey Gorynych
        Zmey Gorynych April 24 2014 10: 22
        0
        Intercepted conversation from Ukraine. "So we consulted here Bandera and came to a common opinion. We are not opposed to the Donetsk region and Luhansk to Russia. We do not mind in my heart. Publicly we will continue to talk about a united Ukraine, about our Crimea and Donbass But this is so, for the world community, everyone understands that this Sicily was built over the last 15 years by Akhmetov and his gang. Today we are not able to raise this region. 53 percent of the needs of Donbass is subsidized from the general treasury. Therefore, we, realizing that we are not forced to love will, let these freaks go on all four sides. And so from them only losses. They do not want to speak Ukrainian, they eat vodka immeasurably, and most importantly, there is no use from them. Let Moscow drag their unprofitable mines on its hump. Let's see how far it will drag them. So we wish the young Donetsk free republic prosperity and happiness headed by the new governor Yanukovych within Russia. For Donetsk! For a gold toilet bowl and a gold loaf! Good luck. Bandera people of Lviv. "
    4. officer29
      officer29 April 24 2014 09: 04
      +3
      Quote: lozh76
      better all the Maidan in the Black Sea drown.

      If the South-East joins Russia, then drowning only in the Dnieper will succeed! crying
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 24 2014 09: 18
        +6
        To pick up the Dnieper, don’t drown in the Western Bug.
        1. jajature
          jajature April 25 2014 00: 52
          +1
          yes ... you would suggest something positive .... otherwise you would drown everyone .... somehow it doesn’t look normal ....
          1. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx April 25 2014 10: 34
            +2
            Really. Why make water dirty? Then it will be impossible to drink !!!
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    5. JoylyRoger
      JoylyRoger April 24 2014 09: 19
      +2
      Who will let them pass to the sea? Through Odessa will not work)
  6. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 24 2014 07: 39
    +18
    Russia has the right to help the South-East of Ukraine


    She has the right and will help, if that. But the SEI must take control of the border, but now just can’t come to Ukraine, they are taking off the trains.
    1. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p April 24 2014 08: 19
      +11
      Yes, at least one border checkpoint had to be taken under control for a long time. At least so that there would be no problems with the delivery of humanitarian aid.
      1. yankeegohome
        yankeegohome April 24 2014 09: 03
        +6
        Then they will definitely declare us terrorists, ring the bell to the whole world. The junta does not try to discredit it. Already they are slaughtering their own deputies. They need a nosebleed to present events in the East as a conspiracy of terrorists, and not an uprising of civilians. Until then, they do not dare to launch a big attack. Do you offer to help them? Yes, and as you should notice, VVP is trying to do everything so that legally everything would be "chiki-peaks". Why substitute a person. Now, if the cities begin to gouge unmotivated, then Russia will have every right to speak out to protect the civilian population. Do you think we like to wait and endure here? But you have to. It is necessary to hold referendums, no matter how they try to disrupt them.
        1. igor_m_p
          igor_m_p April 24 2014 10: 26
          +5
          I meant that self-defense should take control under control. Yes, and humanitarian aid does not have to be sent officially, the residents of Donbass themselves can do this privately, drive a truck to Rostov, load, drive it back. In this case, no fraud.
          As far as I know, now the people are gathering humanitarian aid in a private way, but with the dispatch of the problem, Ukrainian border guards are slowing down.
          Of course, you can come up with options for delivering, but all of these options significantly limit the possibility of maneuver and limit the flow of goods.
          And the fact that it’s too early for Russia to go there is perfectly understandable, but looking at all this disgrace is very difficult, especially since I have relatives in Donetsk and Artemovsk ...
    2. bytkeev
      bytkeev April 24 2014 08: 54
      +4
      SEU also needs to establish propaganda among the Armed Forces of Ukraine and border guards of their own-human views ... and ideals.
      1. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia April 25 2014 19: 20
        0
        And that's for sure! Although they said in the news today that in Slavyansk the correspondent tried to talk with the Ukrainian military, they refused to be interviewed for Russian TV, but verbally confirmed that they did not want to be there.
  7. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 April 24 2014 07: 39
    +18
    The author is right.
    Stop humiliating and killing Ours in Ukraine.
    We don’t leave our own!
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws April 24 2014 07: 52
      +7
      That's right, the Russian Federation is obliged to provide humanitarian assistance to the southeast.
      1. denis02135
        denis02135 April 24 2014 22: 42
        -2
        Do you know what, like there with Vysotsky: "And at this time Bonopart was crossing the border"
        read news example:
        1. North Sea doctors went on an unlimited hunger strike, demanding higher wages
        2. On the NTV channel in the program “Emergency incident” there was a story about veteran Savin I.K. A house was taken from him and demolished in Domodedovo, now the old man is forced to huddle in the summer house of friends. Representatives of the administration claim that they did everything according to the law.
        and others
        Let us be naked and hungry, but we will help everyone.
        And I have a question for you, what is the difference between self-defenders from Ukraine and, for example, "fighters" for the Emirate of the Caucasus. (Probably some speak Russian and other chicks are not Russian) And why do you think that WHO is correct in the Caucasus, and crime in Ukraine. And yet there are no Ours and yours there are Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
        PS.Now showers cons sad
        1. Igool
          Igool April 25 2014 02: 28
          +9
          Dear, our American friend. If you were with me "beyond the river", you would not have such questions. There are also very significant differences. Self-defense has not yet cut the throat of anyone, and your friends "fighters" for the Emirate of the Caucasus practice this everywhere. Self-defense does not fight with the population and does not take hostages, and your friends "fighters" for the Caucasus Emirate do not shy away from this. Self-defense does not use terrorist methods of struggle, and your friends, "fighters" for the Caucasus Emirate, base all their activities on them.
          Yes, it’s not a secret for any of us that Russia has enough of its problems. But this is not the basis for betraying the interests of the country and people close to us.
          1. denis02135
            denis02135 April 25 2014 22: 26
            +1
            Thanks a lot for my friend. Across the river, are you talking about Afghan? And in Chechnya ("According to our rough estimates, about 150-160 thousand people died in the first and second campaigns in Chechnya. Of these, 30-40 thousand are Chechens," Dzhabrailov said) it was you who fought with the local population. The question is rhetorical.
            How likely you and I despise these "fighters
            Quote: Igool
            and your friends are "fighters" for the Caucasus Emirate
            and to your regret, they were not and will not be my friends.
            Quote: Igool
            Self-defense does not fight with the population and does not take hostages, and your friends "fighters" for the Caucasus Emirate do not shy away from this. Self-defense does not use terrorist methods of fighting

            Read the Federal Law of the Russian Federation of March 06.03.2006, 35 No. 3-FXNUMX "On Countering Terrorism", which reveals its essence. It is aimed at intimidating the population in order to influence decision-making by state authorities, local authorities or international organizations.
            Now oh and oh
            1. "On April 25, 2014 at 11:40 am, at the entrance to Sloviansk from the side of Kramatorsk, unknown persons stopped a bus with 13 passengers. Among them were 7 representatives of the OSCE, 5 representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a driver of a vehicle. Terrorists took a bus with passengers to the territory of the SBU in the city of Slavyansk. Now the captured citizens are there "
            2.Published 23.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
            The self-proclaimed mayor of the city of Slavyansk, Vyacheslav Ponomarev, said that his people had taken the American journalist Simon Ostrovsky hostage.
            So you would be silent about the terrorists.
            Are people living in Slavensk hostages?
            And still in (in) Ukraine, Donetsk there are no Ours and yours there are Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine. What do you think who voted for Yanukovych (aren't they) that they wanted it and got it. And if Yanukovych is a coward and brought the situation to this line, then I'm sorry.
            And it is not necessary to offend a lot of mind. “I disagree with any word that you say, but I’m ready to die for your right to say it.” Voltaire is credited with but this is Evelyn Hall. 1906. So how are you there "Dear, our American friend" I live in America, but I am a citizen of Russia. And yet to criticize does not mean to hate, but to try to fix it for the better. Look apart from ORT and Russia1 for example Ukrainian channels or Dozhd or FOX NBC or listen to Echo and you will be happy.
            1. Alex Danilov
              Alex Danilov April 25 2014 22: 51
              -1
              denis02135-Put your American channels in your asshole, there’s only one lie that the United States needs!
              1. denis02135
                denis02135 4 May 2014 07: 46
                +1
                Of course, I will put it in the fray, but you can advise you to be more tolerant of the opinions of others. And in Russia, only the truth goes on TV channels?
            2. Cynic
              Cynic April 26 2014 09: 07
              -1
              Quote: denis02135
              Look besides ORT and Russia1 for example Ukrainian channels or Rain or FOX NBC or listen to the Echo and you will be happy.

              Are you talking about grants?
              Quote: denis02135
              . And to criticize does not mean to hate, but try to fix it for the better.

              So learn from advanced democracies!
              Turn on spell checking. and then your CHILD errors, like
              Quote: denis02135
              I am a citizen of Russia.
              1. denis02135
                denis02135 4 May 2014 07: 36
                +1
                Thanks for the criticism. And what is the mistake of a citizen with a capital letter or is necessary for the Russian Federation, sorry that is not so. I am writing with errors it’s true, not everyone is Fat. Once again, I apologize to all the esthetic connoisseurs of the Russian language for their clumsy Russian language.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic April 25 2014 19: 16
          +2
          Quote: denis02135
          .Now showers cons

          So in the virtual we are!
          And rejoice that you are here on the net, otherwise it wouldn’t have showered minuses!
          1. Park52
            Park52 April 27 2014 00: 05
            0
            Well, yes, the only thing Russia has succeeded in is the production of the largest sticks in the world. Then selling them to blacks and chinamanians, that’s how we will destroy this planet.
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    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 24 2014 08: 38
      +4
      Quote: Rupor
      What to do:

      Very efficient alignment. To the author - respect. It remains to come up with how to put everything described into practice, otherwise it will remain a beautiful statement of thought. We are waiting for an answer to these questions.
  9. KOH
    KOH April 24 2014 07: 46
    +12
    The borders of Ukraine are closed for Russians, even a journalist is not easy to overcome them, and under the pretext of possible assistance to the rebellious Donetsk residents. This is done for show, demonstratively. Through the border of Ukraine is not allowed to relatives.


    It is necessary at the border guards to hang out the banner of the DPR ...
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 24 2014 08: 03
      +14
      And it would absolutely not hurt to mention especially zealous junta border guards. As well as to note especially zealous junta SBU officers. So that people know their "heroes" for the near future. With modern media, including the Internet, this can be done. For sure, the DPR has minimal printing capabilities. the effect will be sure.
      1. KOH
        KOH April 24 2014 08: 40
        +4
        Of course !!! The country should know its "heroes" ...
      2. xenod55
        xenod55 April 24 2014 09: 18
        +2
        I completely agree that Ukrainians should know their Europoid-state "heroes", but better from the signs in the cemetery.
        1. jajature
          jajature April 25 2014 01: 00
          +1
          la ... men .. you have some kind of calls all aimed at capturing. drown, return, all benders, the second grade ... all under one comb .... about the Nazis you zaginat ... you constantly have Caucasians beat in Moscow .. the same skins .... yes, we have all plundered .. but the positive from your words for Ukrainians (including Russian-speaking zero) ... somehow it becomes scary
          1. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 25 2014 19: 41
            0
            Here I read your indignation and do not understand the provocateur chtoli ??? Also say that the junta that seized power and its patrons of Amer lead your Ukraine and people to a brighter future and everything you have there is exemplary. And rightly they say here, because the junta and the Nazis do not deserve more.
            1. Park52
              Park52 April 27 2014 00: 14
              0
              Here I read your quirks and I don’t understand a fool or what ??? Do you think you sit there and know the whole situation? Many are also not happy that the current "power" so seized the board, but what else was left for them, they were already elected in 2004 and they screwed up hard, no one would have chosen them in the upcoming elections, so stop fantasizing about Nitsists there, this is a simple competitor.
  10. Denis
    Denis April 24 2014 07: 47
    +14
    The West then provided extensive humanitarian and other assistance to the militants.
    Is it even worth talking about rights? It seems as if we are justifying ourselves to the formidable black uncle from across the ocean. Why not just send him?
    THE LAW OF RUSSIA, AS AND THE RIGHT OF VOTE IN ALL EUROPEAN COUNCILS, HAVE AND AN EXTRAORDINARY ARGUMENT OF ITS AVAILABILITY BEARS MILITARY DUTY IN MINES AND OTHER LAUNCHERS
    Not some smelly belgium-holland on the instructions of the owner to teach us how to deal with the nearest neighbor
    The following are though correct, but non-diplomatic advice, what to do
    1. bytkeev
      bytkeev April 24 2014 08: 59
      +1
      Quote: Denis
      THE LAW OF RUSSIA, AS AND THE RIGHT OF VOTE IN ALL EUROPEAN COUNCILS, IS

      So the fact of the matter is that they are being deprived of a voice ... and we still pay for participation in these councils ....
    2. Horly
      Horly April 24 2014 10: 13
      +4
      The paradox lies in the fact that the tougher our steps will be, the more they will reckon with us. Remember the lessons of history - the Soviet Union before and after World War 2
      1. Denis
        Denis April 24 2014 11: 56
        +4
        Quote: Horly
        Remember the history lessons

        I remember how Leonid Ilyich fought for peace, although if necessary they could firmly send an opponent
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  11. Kazanec
    Kazanec April 24 2014 07: 49
    +8
    The junta, count!
    1. KOSTYLEV
      KOSTYLEV April 24 2014 08: 16
      +4
      I agree, and smoked with the eurohunt there too
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  12. Corsair
    Corsair April 24 2014 07: 49
    +5
    Quote: from article
    In the meantime ... the OSCE cannot find traces of Russian intervention, and in order to justify Washington's confidence, it has to perceive the “signs” of a foreign presence.

    The OSCE representative apparently entered these very "signs of presence" somewhere in the roadside bushes near Slavyansk ...

    But in poop this organization knows a lot about it, like no other ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 24 2014 07: 58
      +5
      Quote: Corsair
      The OSCE representative apparently entered these very "signs of presence" somewhere in the roadside bushes near Slavyansk ...

      In my opinion, the OSCE is looking for signs of missing geese. And he is even going to send another 500 people. No, they "honestly talked" with the Lviv leader of the "Right Sector", who swore to the OSCE mission representatives that the Pravoseks no longer have a militant wing, and they mimicked into a political party, no longer considering themselves representatives of the "armed formations". It's just that while the OSCE is communicating in Lviv, presidential candidate Yarosh, who chose not words but deeds as the tactics of the presidential election campaign, announced the formation of a special Donetsk battalion "Donbass" and moved his headquarters to Dnepropetrovsk, under the reliable military wing of the oligarch Kolomoisky. But the OSCE does not see him point blank! He doesn't even find a trace!
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 24 2014 08: 18
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        presidential candidate Yarosh, who chose the president’s tactics not words but deeds, announced the formation of special Donetsk battalion Donbass and moved his bet to Dnepropetrovsk, under the reliable military wing of the oligarch Kolomoisky.


        Rather, a "special anti-Donetsk" battalion ...

        Why bet in Dnepropetrovsk, and not in Vinnitsa? "Fuhrer" hu ** ...
      2. klaus16
        klaus16 April 24 2014 08: 19
        +5
        Because PACE, OSCE, UN, etc. everything under the Americans.
      3. 120352
        120352 April 24 2014 08: 23
        +6
        Egoza
        With the loss of "Wild Geese" there are two options:
        1. Negative. They have dissolved in society and are waiting for the "H" hour to start active actions. Taking into account their specific training. no one "will seem a little".
        2. Positive. They were caught by "ours" and in due time will be presented to the "world community" as proof of US participation in the preparation and conduct of a coup d'etat in Ukraine. This could seriously damage the international prestige of the United States.
        For us, of course, the second option is preferable, but the first is more real. It’s just that it’s imperceptible not to neutralize and hide such a number of mercenaries, and regular visits of US emissaries to the territory of Ukraine, perhaps, are aimed at personal contacts with the leadership of the Goose in order to adjust their plans.
        Conclusion: It is necessary to look for places of their dispersal. They are for sure. were agreed in advance. Therefore, it is necessary to catch the persons involved in the importation of geese, and then - either needles under the nails, or truth serum - no means. The result is important. And they must be destroyed before the start of the active phase.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 24 2014 09: 02
          +5
          Quote: 120352
          1. Negative. They have dissolved in society and are waiting for the "H" hour to start active actions. Taking into account their specific training. no one "will seem a little".

          To "dissolve" requires knowledge of the language at the level of its native speaker ...
          The states, of course, have such personnel, but the specifics of their work are somewhat different from that of the "geese" ...

          Personnel with knowledge of the enemy's language are very valuable to use them in operations of this kind ...
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 24 2014 09: 23
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            Personnel with knowledge of the enemy's language are very valuable to use them in operations of this kind ...


            Quote: Nikolai Dalekiy "Tanks on the bridge!"
            - How many soldiers in your team speak Russian?
            - Eight. Only eight. Apart from me ...
            Apparently, such a number did not suit the colonel. Pretending something in his mind, he angrily arched his right eyebrow.
            - I already reported ... - In the voice of the lieutenant, capricious notes sounded completely unacceptable when talking with the senior officer. - In Rostov and near Bataysk we lost a lot of well-trained people. It was a completely vain loss - we were thrown into battle as ordinary infantry. If this continues, Mr. Oberst ...
          2. 120352
            120352 April 24 2014 10: 27
            +3
            Corsair
            And scattering without knowing the language is also not difficult. The "right sector" has its own camps, the location of which no one knows. A lot of them. And you can disperse in them. And not in them - so in the villages of Galicia.
            Communication issues between local and visiting bandits can be easily resolved by using a small group of translators.
            And further. Somehow there was no information about the convoys of the "Geese" columns to the territory of the Russian Federation at gunpoint by our guys. And such information could not have been leaked ...
        2. Fin
          Fin April 24 2014 10: 00
          +5
          Quote: 120352
          2. Positive. They were caught by "ours" and in due time will be presented to the "world community" as proof of US participation in the preparation and conduct of a coup d'etat in Ukraine. This could seriously damage the international prestige of the United States.

          State Duma deputy Zheleznyak on April 22 in Russia with 1 hint said that they are in a safe place and will be presented at the right time. Who cares: Mamontov special correspondent 22. 04. 2014 at the very end of the program.
          1. 120352
            120352 April 24 2014 10: 29
            0
            Fin
            Thanks for the info! I overlooked something (listened, overslept ...).
            1. Mhpv
              Mhpv April 24 2014 11: 54
              +2
              There was a deal! And he said that there was a chess game and that you couldn’t reveal all the moves at once, so we had a lot and shot at the right time.
          2. alex = 111
            alex = 111 April 24 2014 17: 24
            -1
            iron ore nasty type
      4. rolik
        rolik April 24 2014 12: 43
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        He doesn’t even find a trace!

        Elena, good afternoon!
        My wife and I have one question. Recently in Vkontakte, my wife is constantly hanging out there))))), appeals have appeared asking me to help the residents of the Southeast with medicines. There are a lot of people who need high-quality insulin. Insulin from Kiev was completely unusable. Stocks of good insulin will last for about two weeks. Infa came from initiative groups. When my wife turned to these groups, with a desire, to pass the targeted consignment of insulin to the needy, silence followed. If possible, give reliable contacts to whom you can send insulin. It is with great pleasure that we send insulin and thereby contribute a small fraction of our participation in the common cause in the fight against banderlogs.
        Write in a personal.
        Thanks in advance
  13. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 24 2014 07: 50
    +15
    The problem turns out. The West helps Kiev, but Russia cannot be helped. As if the game is not according to the rules. At least in the vastness of diplomacy. The situation should be rectified. We have nothing to lose. The "world community" is already in "anger". And it is high time for Putin and Lavrov to poke the "lights of democracy" into the one they have brewed.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 24 2014 11: 19
      +3
      Yes, they poke them like shitting kittens with their faces in the face of dung, but to little avail !! They screech and continue in their spirit! Further crap and whine !!!
    2. Rostislav
      Rostislav April 24 2014 12: 14
      +5
      I am joining. For military aid, the time has not come yet, and humanitarian assistance should be more actively provided. Sense to pay attention to custom yelling? In any case, they attacked and will attack Russia.
      This is hatred at the genetic level. For Europe and the United States, which were formed from European scum (and the "son" has surpassed "parents" in everything), the very existence of the Russian state is already a challenge.
      So take these cries more calmly and do your job. The dog barks, and the caravan goes on.
  14. andj61
    andj61 April 24 2014 07: 51
    +8
    ... the Russian humanitarian presence should soon become tangible and effective in the South-East of Ukraine, like the presence of the West on the Maidan.


    This must be done right now. Your need to help!
    1. Horse
      Horse April 24 2014 23: 40
      +3
      Well, already starting to do something
  15. Junior, I
    Junior, I April 24 2014 07: 54
    +5
    Ours and so they help, though quietly. Otherwise, the Americans of the Information Polkan will be let down again. Putin is trying to delay such a state of Ukraine as long as possible. In order for the Russian people there to rebel for real. So that the whole southwest is in such a strain. Then Novorossia will depart all to Russia.
    But what was planned in Sevastopol in case of occupation by the Americans
    http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1360799/
    So it's time to drive them from everywhere.
  16. Wolland
    Wolland April 24 2014 08: 00
    +5
    our government has its own ways of helping the southeast, more coordinated than you and I think the Lord ...
  17. shelva
    shelva April 24 2014 08: 01
    +4
    With a cue to the West, banderlogs were allowed to power. If we continue to look around now, Russians will be slaughtered in the Southeast.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 24 2014 11: 24
      +3
      Quote: shelva
      With a cue to the West, banderlogs were allowed to power. If we continue to look around now, Russians will be slaughtered in the Southeast.

      They will not start because they know that the Kremlin is waiting for this and then transfer their point to the auditorium for discussion in expanded form !!
  18. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 24 2014 08: 05
    +22
    THANKS YOU BROTHERS FOR A SINCERE AND GOOD ARTICLE!
    The Southeast is really looking forward to help from the BIG BROTHER, we have nowhere else to get it from.
    1. cokolkz
      cokolkz April 24 2014 16: 32
      -4
      I’m afraid they will be minded, but still - you should not wait, if anyone will help, then only private individuals. At the state level, such assistance was already expected from Russia and believed:
      1) Hussein (remember Zhirinovsky's "speech"?)
      2) Serbs in Belgrade (there were also many flags of the Russian Federation there)
      3) Gaddafi in Libya
      4) Persians in Iran (they were promised the C300 and even took the money, but ...)
      5) Assad in Syria (this one is still holding, but without help)

      Russia, as a state, does not value its word, apparently its rulers are strongly dependent on "Uncle Sam".
      1. Cynic
        Cynic April 24 2014 18: 46
        0
        Quote: cokolkz
        I'm afraid they will

        And what to minus you wretched?

        Almighty _ Well, what kind of trolls have they gone, even though they are right trolling!
        1. cokolkz
          cokolkz 3 May 2014 11: 00
          0
          What kind of fright am I "troll"?
          I am telling the truth - the government of the Russian Federation has not provided any help except for "boltology" at a high level over the past 25 years. As they say nowadays, they "threw" all the former allies who got from the USSR, they left millions of Russians to their own devices after the collapse of the Union in the new republics ...

          So, today, on May 3, Ukrainian Natsiks KILL the inhabitants of Slavyansk, and RUSSIA WHAT? Below there are posts that they say "we won't send our children under the bullets" - I understand. But at least you can help with weapons? Intelligence? Advisors?
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 3 May 2014 11: 46
            0
            Quote: cokolkz
            What kind of fright am I "troll"?

            Who else ?
            Quote: cokolkz
            left to the mercy of fate millions of Russians after the collapse of the Union in the new republics ...

            There were a lot of things.
            So such republics and previously nonexistent states have yet to pay the bills.
            Quote: cokolkz
            Now, today is May 3, Ukrainian Natsik KILL residents of Slavyansk,

            Recently, there was a rather severe clash between the population and the authorities in you, earlier in Kyrgyzstan. The same neighbors.
            Quote: cokolkz
            But can you help with weapons?

            Why, there, and so from a smooth-bore and AK combat helicopters are knocked down, why do they need MANPADS?
            So, by definition, _ the user on the forums incites, provokes, makes sarcastic remarks for one purpose: to engage other users in a futile confrontation.
            You are a troll.
            hi
            1. cokolkz
              cokolkz 3 May 2014 18: 00
              0
              Well, consider me whoever you want, but the fact remains - help from the Russian Federation except for "statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs", etc. will not be. And oh how I want to be wrong !!!
              Let's wait - we'll see.

              At the expense of the problems in Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan - have you seen / heard nationalist slogans there? It was an economic redistribution of power or, rather, an attempt to redistribute.

              And, last, all I wrote was an answer to GAGARIN's request:

              "The South-East is very much looking forward to help from BIG BROTHER, we have no place to get it anymore."
              I expressed my doubts about the reality of providing such assistance. No sarcasm, alas.
      2. Nonik
        Nonik April 24 2014 23: 46
        +2
        Quote: cokolkz
        5) Assad in Syria (this one is still holding, but without help)
        Air defense systems delivered. Russia covers ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Provides intelligence. Thanks to all this - such successes in the Syrian army. She has almost won.
        Quote: cokolkz
        4) Persians in Iran (they were promised the C300 and even took the money, but ...)
        I’m not very aware of this situation, but Iran is not offended, cooperation is ongoing.
        Quote: cokolkz
        3) Gaddafi in Libya
        Why do we need it?
        Quote: cokolkz
        2) Serbs in Belgrade (there were also many flags of the Russian Federation there)
        Then Russia was weak. And there were weak politicians, respectively. There was also conflicting information that Milosevic played with the West and the air defense was turned off. I don’t know whether it’s true or not - I didn’t follow.
        Quote: cokolkz
        1) Hussein (remember Zhirinovsky's "speech"?)
        Iraqi generals could not resist against Operation Golden Donkey. Do you suggest that we intervene in this situation and fight ourselves?
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  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 24 2014 08: 05
    +6
    So the Nazis most likely will not attack anyone, or rather, they will not attack, but they will attack those who are "more accustomed" to women, children, old people ... And you need to contact armed men, why should you? they simply blockade unwanted settlements and will most likely just wait for a humanitarian catastrophe there to break out and themselves will not surrender to the mercy of the victor. Why attack them and rule Russia?
    1. serzh 58
      serzh 58 April 25 2014 22: 50
      0
      Things are much worse. Accesses to cities are blocked, help will not come on time. Leak into the city and start stripping. When help arrives, the work will be done. Everything is much worse than it seems.
  20. feniks
    feniks April 24 2014 08: 08
    +1
    And on the Donetsk-Russian border whose border guards?
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  22. KOSTYLEV
    KOSTYLEV April 24 2014 08: 13
    +2
    Quote: Rurikovich
    The problem turns out. The West helps Kiev, but Russia cannot be helped. As if the game is not according to the rules. At least in the vastness of diplomacy. The situation should be rectified. We have nothing to lose. The "world community" is already in "anger". And it is high time for Putin and Lavrov to poke the "lights of democracy" into the one they have brewed.

    The one-goal game, you need to get used to it for a long time that the West does not have its own opinion, and if there is, then somewhere very farooooooooooooo!
  23. gispanec
    gispanec April 24 2014 08: 19
    +5
    already this whole performance is tired of ..... you need to spit on everything and send troops with a march to Uzhgorod ..... or no longer read reports about how gays and fascists ... with the money of Jews ... humiliate Uraintsy, Russian ... SC .... U-UU KI !!!
    1. Zmey Gorynych
      Zmey Gorynych April 24 2014 10: 16
      -1
      And foam poured from his mouth, in a fit of impotent rage he fell near the computer, his body wriggled with convulsions "die, damn Bender fascists !!!" - as if in delirium he repeated everything, and then my mother came in, with the words - "Sonny, go eat, stop fighting!"
    2. 120352
      120352 April 24 2014 10: 33
      +2
      gispanec
      Moderate your Spanish temperament! Do not hurry. The throw to Uzhgorod (and beyond) will be a bit later.
    3. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 12: 24
      +1
      And to read the bulletins where and how many were killed at one or another checkpoint or how many attacks were committed on military personnel in one or another city.
    4. alex = 111
      alex = 111 April 24 2014 17: 31
      +1
      Quote: gispanec
      gays and fascists ... on the money of the Jews.

      no words))) by the way, in the place of the Nazis, I would be offended, they were not friends with gays or Jews
      1. Cynic
        Cynic April 24 2014 18: 58
        0
        Quote: alex = 111
        no words))) by the way, in the place of the Nazis, I would be offended,

        Soon Khodorkovsky again on the Maidan !
    5. jajature
      jajature April 25 2014 01: 15
      0
      from watching at least someone about the humiliation of Ukrainians and Russians said .... gays .... but it will be far from Uzhgorod
  24. CIANIT
    CIANIT April 24 2014 08: 23
    +5
    Once again, the people are suffering due to the mistakes of the Bolsheviks. By joining Novorossia to Ukraine.
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 April 24 2014 08: 34
      +4
      Yes, what are the Bolsheviks? Did they separate Ukraine from Russia. What are you talking about?
      1. CIANIT
        CIANIT April 24 2014 08: 43
        +5
        I mean that they joined the native Russian lands to Ukraine in 1920.
      2. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 24 2014 14: 16
        +4
        It’s enough to turn to historical facts and see how German troops appeared in Ukraine in those distant post-revolutionary times! Remember the Brest Peace with its consequences. The picture will become clearer for the especially dull, people will look more attentively at their history. And they will see bloody left dictators in the Bolsheviks, that brought Russia innumerable troubles, easily unleashed a civil war in their country. What Kiev wants to unleash now, but physically cannot do it on a full scale.
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    3. thinker
      thinker April 24 2014 10: 22
      +6
      Quite right - we are disentangling the "great" ideas of Lenin's national policy! From Finland to Bukhara, there are a lot of examples.
    4. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 24 2014 11: 47
      +5
      It's true. It was passed on during the formation of the USSR with the wording "to strengthen the Ukrainian proletariat", otherwise all were completely peasants.
    5. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh April 24 2014 12: 25
      +3
      Mistake in national politics, dividing by nat. apartments, not in a connection.
  25. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 24 2014 08: 33
    +1
    Quote: Igor39
    The Georgian "torch of democracy" turned into an attack on South Ossetia, the persecution, killings and torture of opponents of the Saakashvili regime. The new Georgian authorities demand that Saakashvili appear before the law, but he takes refuge in the United States ... nothing can be done, the States are a gangster country!

    USE CORRECTLY TOLD! BUT MAIDAN CAN ALSO COME ON AND TO THEM!
  26. Diter
    Diter April 24 2014 08: 33
    +1
    The attitude of the West to Russia, and to everyone else, can be briefly conveyed: "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat!"
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  28. volkodav
    volkodav April 24 2014 08: 39
    +3
    it is not sad but there is no one to help in the southeast of Ukraine, there is no organized group of people who did anything to achieve their goals. What did the capture of the SBU building in Lugansk or Donetsk give them? yes absolutely nothing !!! Is someone seriously engaged in blocking the activities of the Natsik? no!!! at least one arsenal was occupied, or at least one military commander in the territory controlled by them was bowed to their side? again, no, probably naively believing that they will not use weapons against them, or are they waiting for Russia to send troops? self-defense units shown on camera are, in principle, ridiculous, due to their disorganization and fragmentation, not only militarily, but political goals and objectives. the uprising is crushed, what prevents the SBU from working in another room, and the legislative and executive powers work in another city? And the elections will be held in the controlled cities of Donbass and Lugansk.
  29. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 24 2014 08: 42
    +22
    Please do not need to ironically distort the meaning, everything seems simple to you from a distance, it seems that in our place you would definitely go to the barricades and, leading the revolution, overthrow the tyrants in a week. In reality, everything is much more complicated by an order of magnitude, there is a powerful pressure, dozens of people are arrested by the SBU (at night, secretly) and taken away, but others appear in their place, speak at rallies, keep the defense of buildings, and you also have to go to work and feed families. The right sector, on the other hand, has the support of all the media, the security forces, the "government", are well paid and are well armed!
    Laughing at the weakness and indecisiveness of the Donbass militia, you first need to ask yourself - where I was when the traitor Gorbachev coached, when tanks fired in Moscow under Yeltsin.
    Sorry if I offended anyone with this.
    Quote: Dr.Faust.Patron
    What help?
    Boards with humanitarian aid? Joint exercises of ZVO and self-defense forces? Zadornov's concert in support of SE?
    What exactly do they expect from an older brother?
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 April 24 2014 08: 57
      +5
      Yes, you are right. Your situation is lousy. Maybe like Vysotsky? "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders."
      1. 120352
        120352 April 24 2014 10: 37
        +9
        klaus16
        The situation is lousy, not "with you", but with US! At the Russian World.
        And violent, fortunately, on the side of the enemy. We need SMART. And they are. Including leaders, so that the parade system does not go on enemy machine guns.
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  30. vorobey
    vorobey April 24 2014 08: 44
    +4
    Figley remind. take this torch there. Yes, even in 45 Reichstag and Whitehouse can be suspended so that you don’t touch Russia in the subcortex and you will be happy.
  31. vch62388
    vch62388 April 24 2014 08: 46
    +13
    Maybe, following the example of the US Navy, we also need to repair some school in Donetsk?
    Send a team of builders in overalls, materials, tools ...
    - Man, buy a hammer drill.
    - So it's the same machine!
    - I don’t know, I don’t know ... But he makes holes - you will admire!
  32. demotivator
    demotivator April 24 2014 08: 55
    +5
    ... Biden’s visit to Kiev is a very bad sign for the Kiev junta,
    Quote: Gagarin
    Please do not ironically distort the meaning, everything from far away seems simple to you, it seems that you would definitely go to the barricades in our place and lead the revolution and overthrow the tyrants in a week. In reality, everything is much more complicated,

    Not only is everything more complicated, but at the same time it is not clear what is happening there? If you look at Ukraine, it is clear that the country is at war with someone. Mobilization has been announced, some kind of militias are being created, troops are being pulled up to the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, on the borders of which, inside the country, checkpoints are established. And bridges are also being mined in dangerous directions, and military units are deployed in settlements. And, in general, it is clear to everyone - the war with Russia. But the war is still going on exclusively on Ukrainian territory, and in the absence of invasion forces. (!!!!) Oligarch Kolomoisky has established a prize for the capture of the "moskal" - it is claimed that 8 people have already been caught ... Ukraine is strenuously looking for the enemy, but the enemy is insidious and cannot be found. Moreover, he was not there yet!
    Yes, of course, Russia annexed Crimea. But, oddly enough, it is Crimea that Ukraine no longer strongly claims, no forces called upon to liberate the "primordially Ukrainian" peninsula are observed either in Perekop or Chongar. In general, everyone understands perfectly well that the overwhelming majority of the Crimean population does not want to be Ukrainians. Yes, the annexation is not recognized, but the referendum is not recognized either. But they admit the obvious. Crimea is lost and will not return. And it doesn't hurt that he is needed, to be honest.
    It's a shame how it all happened. They took it as adult boys take the ball from the kids. Just came and got it. And all these years, all these talk about the greatness of Ukraine, about its invincible army, about the great military spirit ... It's a shame. Even without numerical superiority, without shots, with complete non-resistance of the Navy and the 20-strong group of troops on the peninsula.
    It is especially offensive that they have just convinced themselves of their own prowess - they beat and poured liquid on Molotov's unresisting Berkut for weeks, then armed with sticks they went under real bullets, actually took power - that's on a wave of heroic upsurge such a slap in the face of public opinion. These wounds are difficult to heal. Argentina also lost territory in the war with a much stronger Great Britain, but at least the Argentines fought! The Ukrainians also fought with Russia - in Chechnya and South Ossetia, where everyone saw that the battalions staffed with nationally motivated cadres were absolutely incapable of war with any regular army. But as punitive units, they are quite suitable. And the task is to provoke the neighboring state to protect the destroyed "kats @ pskiy" population, in fact, according to the South Ossetian scenario. Georgia for Ukraine is, to some extent, a dream, the country has lost what was already lost 20 years ago, but has turned into a favorite of the West, is preparing for NATO and what the hell is not joking, maybe the European Union. Not immediately, not soon, but he is already getting help for free, and considerable. That is why the war is so strange. It's just that her goals are so strange.
    1. Fin
      Fin April 24 2014 10: 17
      +3
      Quote: demotivator
      Not only is everything more complicated, but it’s not clear what is going on there?

      Who did you embed the article in? Is it suffering for the failed European dream and great Ukraine? In my opinion, she’s somehow not at the cash register.
  33. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 24 2014 08: 58
    +6
    Of course there is every right. This is undeniable. Moreover, there is the good of the Federation Council to send troops, and there are troops ready to enter there. Since they are still not there (at least officially) it means so. So there are some political agreements with the Southeast or some other nuances that we don’t know and don’t know about. In my mind, of course, I want at least one checkpoint on the border with the Southeast to be under control. Then the people would go (there - men, back a woman with children) and humanitarian aid and equipment. We must think the whole world how to do it.
  34. kind
    kind April 24 2014 09: 02
    0
    To raise with the UN the question of the recognition of state. depot, and the US government as terrorists and put them on the international wanted list. The evidence is more than enough.
  35. Voenruk
    Voenruk April 24 2014 09: 05
    -5
    It’s necessary to help oneself; they lifted up subsidies to pay to the whole world. Pay me back!
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    2. klaus16
      klaus16 April 24 2014 09: 08
      +4
      Well, here you are not at all in the subject !!!!
  36. mig31
    mig31 April 24 2014 09: 26
    +1
    It's time to end Bender’s tyranny, and with the Kiev junta for one, they sat lonely ...
  37. pensioner
    pensioner April 24 2014 09: 29
    +2
    Everyone expected that he would call Ukraine the next “torch of democracy," as he once called Georgia under Saakashvili, when he just visited her on a blessing visit.
    So Biden’s visit to Kiev is a very bad sign for the Kiev junta
    laughing
    It seems that Biden always has a sandwich falling butter down, and in childhood even cast-iron toys broke in his arms ...
    Thanks Victor for the article! hi
  38. Sterlya
    Sterlya April 24 2014 09: 31
    +4
    The hunt is already to see how it all ends. as the bullshit got
  39. Farvil
    Farvil April 24 2014 09: 33
    +1
    Ours must act decisively without looking back to the west, no matter what we do, we will not get approval from there and will always be to blame. So it’s true that they are following us.
  40. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 24 2014 09: 40
    +1
    Quote: ZU-23
    Russia probably has the right to save everyone without the protection of whom the Americans are hitting.

    It does not have the right, but it has the duty, the duty to counterbalance the decaying west, to outweigh the scales in the positive direction, to destroy all evil and increase good!
    1. alex = 111
      alex = 111 April 24 2014 17: 01
      0
      you would write war sheets. judging by the pathos, you were not an ensign, but a minimum political officer.
  41. ssf2257
    ssf2257 April 24 2014 09: 42
    +3
    Look, a tsrushnik arrived in Ukraine, an attack began in the southeast; Biden arrived again and the attack began. But what if we send Vladimir Volfovich there? Where will these "rulers" taxis? Small children.
  42. mamont5
    mamont5 April 24 2014 09: 45
    +1
    "Everyone expected that he would call Ukraine another" torch of democracy "

    Oh, and they will set something on fire with this very torch. Children and crazy people shouldn't play with fire. "Washington firemen" need to know this, and they stick matches to idiots to light the torch.
    1. vch62388
      vch62388 April 24 2014 13: 46
      +1
      The Tsarnaev brothers have already been shoved, what happened? Bin Laden was supplied ... with faithful Afghan Mujahideen ...

      Long live the rake offensive world championship, where the US wins for a clear advantage.
  43. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 24 2014 09: 55
    0
    We will not let the Russians offend Ukraine. To protect them from the Bandera lawlessness is our task.
  44. oxotnuk86
    oxotnuk86 April 24 2014 10: 10
    +2
    Today, a battle is underway in Mariupol, 1 channel reported. Will we respond to the delirium of the mattresses and wait until the flare-up? It's time to take this whole shobla as an udder.
  45. Magadan
    Magadan April 24 2014 10: 16
    +6
    1) Southeast to collect humanitarian aid.
    2) the junta border guards will not let her through anyway, or they will say "to Kiev for centralized redistribution"
    3) for this help people meet at least 1000 people
    4) during the transfer of assistance, as border guards will not let her pass, at the same time taking border crossings under people's power. To avoid further problems with the delivery of humanitarian supplies
    5) they will start to crush people with tanks or let the pravosek people in - take control of border crossings "temporarily" under the tutelage of the Russian Federation. SEND the OSCE at the same time. For legitimacy.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner April 24 2014 20: 33
      0
      Magadan! These are precisely the actions that beg to be taken. The most important thing at this stage is to take control of border crossings. Let them later wonder: WHAT did the border cross there. Or is it KAMAZ with bread or conditionally Shell C1, all disguised as a peaceful tractor. And the ardor of the junta will immediately decrease ...
  46. mackonya
    mackonya April 24 2014 10: 32
    +1
    There are two options for the denouement of the performance conceived by "State Department." First, as in the Syrian conflict, the US and the EU will "politically" hand over Ukraine to Russia, while making a good face in a bad game, of course not admitting mistakes in foreign policy, and that they are not the first. Second: the EU and Russia will come to a compromise solution and will jointly go to the descalation, and then to the stabilization of the situation in Ukraine, but "State Department." will go deep underground and will stir up Russophobic sentiments. It is important for the United States that there is an "unstable" region near the borders of Russia, in this case only the people of Ukraine will be able to help themselves. I hope that there will be the first option, it would be more reasonable.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 24 2014 11: 39
      +5
      Or a third. The South-East with the support of Russia will become an independent state, to which Transnistria will join.
      This would be true from a historical, political, and simply human point of view.
      All recent events and actions of the Kiev "authorities" and their masters are pushing towards this option.
  47. vedross
    vedross April 24 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Russia, free yourself from the ghostly fetters of political correctness, help us free ourselves from the enemy seed of banderlog! Reveal your power and determination to the World! We are waiting for you, Russia!
  48. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 24 2014 11: 33
    +2
    Everyone expected that he would call Ukraine the next “torch of democracy," as he once called Georgia under Saakashvili, when he just visited her on a blessing visit.


    And everyone remembers where later this torch was inserted with a candle !! And he, as always, is not at work !! Like a teddy bear didn’t understand us !! laughing
  49. VPO
    VPO April 24 2014 11: 37
    0
    Help Ukraine! Turn off the gas. How much can you already? Why do we give gas to a bankrupt country? I really love Ukraine but I don’t want to be a sponsor. Yes, a country without gas is cruel, but many will be without heat, etc., etc. but the girlfriend won't succeed! Only through difficulties.
    1. alex = 111
      alex = 111 April 24 2014 17: 07
      0
      turning off the gas to Ukraine, automatically turn off the gas to Europe, and this is a lot of money plus penalties. so our government is unlikely to do this.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic April 24 2014 18: 52
        +1
        Quote: alex = 111
        turning off the gas to Ukraine, automatically turn off the gas to Europe

        Although weeping from such statements, what do you think the refusal to supply gas to Ukraine is a complete cessation of its export?
        Type _
        1. alex = 111
          alex = 111 April 24 2014 19: 16
          0
          Most of the exports to Europe go through Ukraine. look at the map, why do you think Russia is building southern and northern streams?
          1. Cynic
            Cynic April 25 2014 19: 09
            0
            Quote: alex = 111
            Most of the exports to Europe go through Ukraine.

            And the Sun rises in the East!
            In case of refusal of gas supplies to Ukraine, the control mechanism is activated at the entrance and exit to the gas transmission system of Ukraine.
            Gas comes only for Europe, if the numbers do not match, then they steal. If they don’t stop, then they can block it altogether.
            The first time is this situation? It was already. But then there was no Nord Stream.
  50. Cynic
    Cynic April 24 2014 12: 19
    +2
    On TV there is information about the provocation in Slavyansk, shelling of volunteers, there are victims. And it’s somehow unclear about the technology going to the city, or already in the city!