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Russia is not NATO. Defense Ministry Revises Relationship With North Atlantic Bloc

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Russia is not NATO. Defense Ministry Revises Relationship With North Atlantic Bloc



The crisis in Ukraine, NATO leaders decided to use to build up their military presence on the Russian borders. It seems that in Washington and Brussels have long waited for a reason to move the army infrastructure to the East. And such an excuse they planted new Kiev authorities. Our military assesses the position of the NATO members whether they will continue to search for points of contact with Western generals or will expand the vector of cooperation in the other direction. These and other questions in an exclusive interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta were answered by Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov.

Anatoly Ivanovich, a conference on international security issues is to be held in Moscow at the end of May. Do you have any concerns that because of the events in Ukraine and the sanctions that the West is imposing against Russia, it will have to be canceled?

Anatoly Antonov: This question has recently been heard from representatives of academic circles and from colleagues from Europe and the USA. I answer: we will hold this conference under any circumstances. Let me remind you that the Ministry of Defense of Russia annually invites the leadership of foreign military departments and international organizations, as well as non-governmental experts to openly discuss international security issues. Now, when many platforms for such discussions, as they say, have sunk, this is especially necessary. As for the sanctions, they, of course, can interfere. But, rather, not to us, but to representatives of European countries and the USA. They will simply miss the chance to better understand the position of Russia and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense on the most important issues of regional and global security.

And these questions will not disappear from the agenda?

Anatoly Antonov: Pay attention to how we organize our conference. Every year we single out one or another aspect of international security, which, in our opinion, is currently the main one. For example, two years ago there was a lot of talk about missile defense issues. We discussed at the conference how they influence the situation in the world in general and in NATO countries in particular. Last year, the debate was about European security, as well as a possible future control mechanism for conventional armed forces in Europe. We set out our position, formulated specific proposals on how to improve the existing mechanisms. They are being studied in the West.

I think that this year it will be useful to talk about recent events in the Middle East, North Africa and Afghanistan. This, in particular, is important in terms of analyzing the negative political and economic consequences of the so-called Arab Spring. Be sure to touch and projects "color revolutions" in the former Soviet Union, including in Ukraine.

Ukrainians in Moscow, you also called?

Anatoly Antonov: We invited everyone. But not everyone will come. Americans have already refused. Probably, someone else will refuse to talk. But it is their choice. We did not make any "forbidden" lists, we did not cancel a single invitation. To date, more than 40 countries and international organizations have confirmed the participation of their delegates in the conference, including nine at the level of ministers of defense. A serious representation from the states of Asia and the Middle East is expected. We see considerable interest in the event from Russian and foreign non-governmental experts. The conference will be covered by more than 200 journalists - this is also evidence of high attention to the upcoming discussion.

You mentioned the situation in Afghanistan as one of the main topics of conversation. Could this be more detailed?

Anatoly Antonov: The problem of Afghanistan today is one of the key in terms of the security challenges of Russia and its allies in the CSTO. International security assistance forces are being withdrawn from the country. We are told: nine American bases will remain there. And immediately there are questions. For what purpose do they remain, on what basis will the agreements be located in Afghanistan? Today, the UN Security Council did not give anyone such a mandate, but it must be. Nine "points" will be located near the Russian border, next to the CSTO allies. Will they be placed in Afghanistan temporarily or permanently? We are told - temporarily. But let us turn to the recent past. On the eve of the collapse of the USSR, the West also promised not to create military bases in Eastern Europe and in the Baltic countries. And today, these oaths no one remembers.

But the situation with Afghanistan is different. We did not object to sending international security assistance forces there. And even assisted them.

Anatoly Antonov: I will add - by that they took upon themselves a certain responsibility for what is happening in this country. It’s impossible not to think about the development of events in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of the international coalition’s forces solely on the grounds that it’s not Russia who has brewed all this “mess”. Because all this will push our borders, affect our allies. At the recent meeting of the defense ministers of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, our head Sergei Shoigu brought very alarming statistics - about 60 thousands of people recently left the Afghan army, taking with them weapon. It is clear that they did not run away to dig potatoes. These people joined the forces of the armed opposition, which is still unknown how to act. Whether they recognize the new president of the country, the legitimacy of the elections is a big question. Including therefore we do not share the assessments of western countries regarding the level of security that will be established in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of international forces from there.

And what is this assessment?

Anatoly AntonovA: In my opinion, the United States and its allies show a slightly embellished picture inside Afghanistan. We, in turn, expect the situation to worsen there. We foresee that the pressure of the bandits, drug trafficking and all the negative things connected with it, on the southern underbelly of Russia will only increase. Our CSTO and SCO partners adhere to the same point of view. That is why at the recent meeting of Sergei Shoigu with the Minister of Defense of Tajikistan, among other things, they discussed the issue of increasing the combat readiness, combat effectiveness and efficiency of the armed forces of this republic. And, of course, strengthening our military base in Tajikistan.

We do not conceal that within the framework of military technical assistance we equip the Tajik army with compatible weapons. The same thing happens in Kyrgyzstan. Today, one of the main tasks is to make the CSTO Collective Rapid Reaction Forces ready to repel any threats to the security of our states.

NATO announced the termination of military and civilian cooperation with Russia. Moscow recalled its representative from Brussels. What does the West lose from such a confrontation and how does it threaten our country?

Anatoly Antonov: The Russia-NATO Council was created for an "all-weather" conversation that could be conducted even if relations between our countries were strained. What we encountered during the crisis in Ukraine showed that this site is not valid. Now in Brussels only one question is being discussed: what to “do” with Russia and how to “punish” it. Ukrainian events have confirmed that NATO members need us only when we are pursuing a convenient policy. Unfortunately, we did not succeed in building an equal partnership and mutually beneficial cooperation with the alliance. After all that has been positive in recent years, relations with NATO from the first shock collapsed like a house of cards.

In Brussels, they used to carry out a policy of containing Russia, but they tried to do it under the guise of a good uncle. Now it seems that there just found a reason for the implementation of far-reaching plans. See what the Western press writes. Everything is fixated on one thing: Moscow threatens the Baltic countries and Eastern Europe. NATO must respond immediately. We see that as a result, the alliance continues to progressively increase its military presence at our borders. Before, we were told about some training bases for the training of soldiers and officers before sending them to "hot" and "warm" points. Now, no one is hiding - it will be the permanent military units of NATO. No matter how they are called - bases, contingents, formations - the essence of this does not change. We are talking about the emergence of military potential at the Russian borders.

We have always treated NATO as an objective reality. The Alliance is an impressive military-political force in the Euro-Atlantic area, with which we reckoned, tried to build constructive, mutually beneficial relations. Cooperated on the principles of strict parity in those areas in which progress could be made in strengthening mutual security. This is the only possible principle of cooperation. But we never shared the political aspirations of those who tried to reshape our worldview, to force us to act in the interests of Western strategies.

NATO members with such aplomb speak about the termination of cooperation with Russia, as if they had once bestowed upon them.

Anatoly Antonov: In fact, Russia is just as interested in cooperation with NATO as the alliance is interested in interacting with our country. All successful cooperation projects that NATO members so fond of talking about were implemented because of their extremely mutually beneficial nature. The results were achieved thanks to a new level of trust and mutual understanding established between military experts. The results obtained met the interests of all partners in the Russia-NATO Council, and sometimes even to the greater extent the interests of NATO countries, as was the case with Afghanistan.

Another example. It concerns the safe transportation of chemical weapons from Syria. Our and Chinese sailors took to escort in the Mediterranean the American ship with dangerous cargo on board. In Brussels, this project was called almost epochal. They said that it demonstrates the importance of Russian-NATO cooperation in ensuring regional peace and solving the problems of non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. But events broke out in Ukraine, and the project collapsed overnight. Does the problem of non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction no longer exist or has Russia imposed its assistance on NATO countries in ensuring the security of the American vessel? Nothing like that! It was a joint project. And if in Brussels and Washington they so easily rejected it, then I do not quite understand the meaning of the very cooperation between Russia and NATO. But every cloud has a silver lining. Now Russia has the opportunity to calmly analyze what was done right and what wasn't in former relations with the alliance. And try to find the answer to the main question: what results do we expect from interaction with NATO?

At least one answer lies on the surface - we want to trust each other and that it is realized in joint projects.

Anatoly Antonov: Want - does not mean we still have. For example, at one time, the leadership of NATO promised Russia not to hold "substantial combat forces" on the territory of the new countries - members of the alliance. And now, for more than 15 years, we can’t agree with NATO on what forces we should be talking about. "Essential" is how much: one battalion, one company? What battalion, what company? If this is a special forces, then in fact he can perform the task better than another brigade. Therefore, talking about "substantial combat forces," we realized that NATO simply did not want to solve this problem. Indeed, in the acute situation that we are seeing now, this gives them the opportunity to realize plans for the additional deployment of military contingents on the line of contact with Russia.

Moreover, some so-called youngonatovtsy just waiting for this.

Anatoly Antonov: Indeed, some representatives of the military departments of Eastern Europe and the Baltic States reiterate the "Russian threat", they require a review of the entire concept of NATO, including the anti-missile and nuclear component.

We, for example, noticed that in the countries of the alliance they again began to discuss the intensification of work on the joint management of nuclear forces. This, for example, when pilots of non-nuclear states, say, from the Netherlands or Germany, are taught to fly planes that in wartime carry nuclear weapons on board. In my opinion, there is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

It inspires optimism, perhaps, one moment. Not all in NATO advocate a hard line towards Russia. The crisis in Ukraine has confirmed this. From the side of NATO and European grandees, the opinion is heard that cooperation with our country should be approached carefully and not “chopped off the shoulder”. Too difficult, long and painfully created a platform for interaction. It is easy to destroy, and it will be difficult to restore. We think so too.

But if someone thinks that NATO will beckon Russia with a finger, and we will run into some of their projects, then this is a profound error. That is why it was decided to withdraw our military representative from Brussels. We will hold consultations with Colonel-General Yevnevich, find out his view on the mood at the headquarters of the alliance, and then, taking into account all the information received, we will decide how to build relations with NATO further.

But there, too, will not sit on their hands. Surely they will try to strengthen their positions in the same Ukraine, in Moldova and Georgia.

Anatoly AntonovA: Moreover, the alliance is trying to pursue its line even in the CSTO member states. There is moral pressure, an attempt to convince the population that the “Russians are bad”, therefore, one should focus on European democracy. They are talking about some kind of military-technical assistance, about sending advisers, about increasing the number of joint exercises. NATO has one task - to drive a wedge between Russia and the allies, to tear us apart.

In Ukraine today we see an attempt to implement the concept of "promoting democracy" or the so-called "color revolutions". The same "Arab Spring", transferred to the post-Soviet space. In general, I believe that the threat of "color revolutions", their negative political and economic impact on regional and global security are largely underestimated.

This problem needs to be paid more attention, look for the roots of this phenomenon, ways to counteract it. Figuratively speaking, the brushwood must be removed from the fire, where big politics are brewed according to the recipe of Western chefs. It is not necessary to wait until the lid from the pan flies up and another crisis begins, which someone will try to direct in one direction or another - depending on the specific goals. What are these goals and to whom they are beneficial, is well known from the previous "color revolutions".

The question is how to pull apart the brushwood?

Anatoly Antonov: The problem is really serious, and Russia needs to work on its resolution together with other countries, including our colleagues in the CSTO and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. They, too, are interested in preventing this “contagion” from themselves. This topic will surely become one of the central ones in the framework of our chairmanship in the SCO in 2015.

Do you still have Russia open for cooperation with NATO?

Anatoly Antonov: You probably noticed that I have never said about the complete collapse of such an interaction. Those projects that the alliance decides to continue and which will be beneficial to Russia will be implemented. We had a fairly successful project of joint struggle against pirates, good practices in the field of military medicine, carrying out rescue operations, the fight against air terrorists. But if the NATO members decide not to do this anymore, we will not cry.

At the same time, I want no one to have any illusions that we had a large and multi-vector cooperation in missile defense and conventional weapons with NATO, and now we will lose it. This is nothing. There were only unsuccessful attempts to do something together. But we will continue to strictly fulfill our commitments in the field of arms control, non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and disarmament regardless of whether we cooperate with NATO or not. Maybe, to solve this or that problem, more forces and means will be needed. I see nothing terrible here. In the world, in addition to NATO members, there are quite a few states that are ready to work with Russia to strengthen global and regional security. These are China, India, other countries of the Asia-Pacific region, states of the Middle East, North Africa, and Latin America. We will develop cooperation with them in all directions.

We do not border on these states. And Ukraine, here it is - at hand. And along with NATO, it requires evidence that Russia is not preparing an invasion of the south-east of the country. In Kiev and Brussels, they are constantly talking about some kind of accumulation of our troops in the border areas, satellite images are shown.

Anatoly Antonov: We have established a regime of transparency and confidence in the field of conventional weapons with the Western countries - the Open Skies Treaty and the Vienna Document on Measures to Strengthen Confidence and Security of the 2011 of the Year. We strictly fulfill obligations under these agreements. Recently, eight inspection teams visited the territory of Russia. And twice our objects and areas of deployment of troops along the Russian-Ukrainian border were checked by the Ukrainian military. In addition, we received inspectors from the USA, Canada, Germany, France, Switzerland, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Finland in our territory. Most of the inspection teams - seven missions - were interested in the regions adjacent to our border with Ukraine. They were given the opportunity to talk with the command of Russian units and subunits, to photograph the locations of personnel and military equipment, to control them on the routes of movement.

What did they end up with?

Anatoly Antonov: None of the inspectors later said or presented documentary evidence that the Russian Armed Forces are conducting some kind of threatening, excessive military activity there. Yes, we are conducting exercises in those areas. But in terms of the number of forces and assets involved, they do not go beyond the limits set by the Vienna Document and do not require an invitation from observers from foreign countries. We closely monitor that there are no violations.

Then the question arises: why do we need measures of trust and transparency, which refuse to take into account the states that have signed the Vienna Document and the Treaty on Open Skies? The answer is simple, it is hidden in the double standards applied in this case to Russia. With such an engagement, the test result is known in advance. In any case, it will be reduced to the statement that Russia conducts dangerous military activities near the borders with Ukraine. Require documentary evidence of such activities is useless.

Do you admit that Ukraine itself can take any military actions against Russia?

Anatoly Antonov: I do not believe that the Russians will fight the Ukrainians. But I can assure you that we will not allow any negative surprises regarding the security of Russia.

The leadership of the Ministry of Defense maintains contact with the Ukrainian military? Do I need to negotiate with them?

Anatoly AntonovA: This is better than looking at each other through the rifle scope. There are contacts with the Ukrainian military, in particular, on the transfer of weapons left behind in Crimea. We also solve the problem of returning home the inhabitants of the peninsula who are called up to serve in the Ukrainian army. In Crimea, for this are representatives of the armed forces of Ukraine. Of course, such contacts are kept to a minimum. But if you need to solve a specific issue, then this issue is solved. If there is a need for a telephone conversation, then call up. Personally, I have such conversations almost every day.

Business card

Anatoly Ivanovich Antonov was born on 15 May 1955, in Omsk. In the 1978 year he graduated from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, and in the 1983 year - full-time postgraduate studies at MGIMO.

For more than thirty years he worked in the system of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the USSR and the Russian Federation, including the director of the Foreign Affairs Department for security and disarmament issues.

He was the leader of a number of Russian government delegations. In particular, in negotiations with the G8 countries, on the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, on reviewing the operation of the conventions on inhuman weapons, on the prohibition of chemical weapons, on the prohibition of biological weapons, on multilateral export control mechanisms.

Antonov headed the delegation of our country in negotiations with the United States on a new Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms.

In February, 2011 was appointed Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation by presidential decree. The department deals with issues related to international military cooperation and the organization of contacts between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the military departments of foreign countries.

Anatoly Antonov was awarded four orders - "For Merit to the Fatherland" 4 degree, "For Military Merit" and two orders of Honor. He is the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Ambassador. Active State Counselor of the Russian Federation 1 class. Doctor of Political Sciences.
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  1. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 23 2014 20: 47
    +20
    We have enough brains to fuck. From 2003 to 2011, drug trafficking has grown, from Avgan 11 times. Whoever doesn’t know, the CIA is involved in drugs. I don’t understand why the Tu-160 has not yet been bitten by bitches.
    1. maks-101
      maks-101 April 23 2014 20: 54
      +13
      Yes, it would be necessary to slam the slipper of this enraged cockroach
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. April 23 2014 23: 11
        +1
        Big to you + MAX. It has long been clear that we are upgrading nuclear weapons, building new ones, and Americans are building drones and F-35s.
      2. mamont5
        mamont5 April 24 2014 08: 00
        0
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        Yes, it would be necessary to slam the slipper of this enraged cockroach


        I looked. I was very happy. And we also sometimes call our equipment "old". By the way, the video says that stealth can be turned into scrap metal, I'm afraid that the metal there is minuscule. When in Yugoslavia rocketry stealth failed, the locals rushed to him, aiming to profit from the metal, but alas ... there is solid plastic.
    2. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 April 23 2014 23: 03
      +8
      Absolutely right, Reasonable, 2,3 (2) Russia's policy in military-political relations with the NATO bloc can be defined by the formula - "piss in the eyes - God's dew." All 23 years, continuous concessions and explanations to us - fools - scientific, like those that the "order bearer" issued in this article. The goal of the Afghan NATO enterprise is to reduce the flight time to any point in the region, to have tracking stations there, some operational rapid reaction forces, and most importantly, to exponentially increase the production of heroin, establish its traffic to Russia and thereby inflict a powerful blow on the gene pool of the nation. It makes me sick to enumerate everything lost, lost, missed ... Because some illiterate whore from the United States in the UN Security Council dares to yell at the representative of Russia, they say - shut up, loser! If this is not done now, then all that remains is to do away with such politicians ...
    3. koshh
      koshh April 23 2014 23: 28
      +2
      And the traffic then goes through Russia.
    4. Commander
      Commander April 23 2014 23: 40
      +5
      pay attention to the date of publication of the video =)
      1. alexng
        alexng April 24 2014 00: 53
        +1
        It seems that this is all the Predictions suffered.
  2. Leshka
    Leshka April 23 2014 20: 54
    +12
    NATO is one big haemorrhoids led by the USA
    1. maks-101
      maks-101 April 23 2014 20: 55
      +3
      NATO is one big haemorrhoids led by the USA
      not hemorrhoids is strongly said, here is a pimple canal.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj April 23 2014 21: 13
      +9
      Quote: Leshka
      NATO is one big haemorrhoids led by the USA

      This is not only our haemorrhoids, but also the haemorrhoids of each member of NATO, except the United States. The paradox is that they joined NATO in order not to fight. In reality, since the invasion of Yugoslavia, they have been fighting continuously. Moreover, each of the campaigns, which began quite successfully, eventually turned into a hemorrhoid. And the total number of such haemorrhoids on NATO’s collective ass is approaching critical.
      1. O. BENDER
        O. BENDER April 23 2014 22: 04
        +1
        Quote: Arhj
        Quote: Leshka
        NATO is one big haemorrhoids led by the USA

        This is not only our haemorrhoids, but also the haemorrhoids of each member of NATO, except the United States. The paradox is that they joined NATO in order not to fight. In reality, since the invasion of Yugoslavia, they have been fighting continuously. Moreover, each of the campaigns, which began quite successfully, eventually turned into a hemorrhoid. And the total number of such haemorrhoids on NATO’s collective ass is approaching critical.

        And what will happen? Nothing, they just change their ass and start all over again. We must stop them.
    3. Naum
      Naum April 23 2014 23: 22
      +2
      And this hemorrhoids must be operated on. Not by force - by the economy. The whole world needs to abandon the dollar and switch to a universal, supranational, means of payment for products and services. American parasitism over the world through a printing press must be put to an end!
  3. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 23 2014 20: 59
    +5
    To be honest, I didn’t understand anything. On the other hand, it is high time to speak a language such as the United States - that would be less understood, otherwise the rumors divorced more than necessary.
    For example, the Americans say - "There are Russians in Ukraine" - "We saw them in photographs and in them they look like those who were in South Ossetia and Abkhazia in 2008" - well, in 5 years, they haven't even changed their uniform and the beard have grown. - and do not blush and not ashamed - functionaries are of a high level, but conversations at the level of "baby talk"
    1. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 23 2014 21: 11
      -13%
      Tanya is a one-sided comment. He didn’t get it. This is a man’s world. Do not go.
      1. tokin1959
        tokin1959 April 23 2014 22: 58
        +13
        when Tanya with a grenade under the tank climbs - then say - Tanya, do not go, I myself, this is a man’s job.
        and here everyone expresses his opinion. and that’s it.
        try to build up your wife - you’ll get a go with a frying pan.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 23 2014 22: 41
      +3
      Yes, we don’t have a common language with them. Let them learn to speak our language. And there will be no other.
    4. tokin1959
      tokin1959 April 23 2014 22: 50
      +4
      enough of us such a talker - Hunchback, he also talked for hours about something, but the meaning of what was said was zero. no need to chatter at them equal.
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 April 24 2014 06: 48
        0
        But mind you, he was the first senior to demand money for blabbering. It turned out to be so interesting that all this cavalcade called the State Council and before the Politburo rushed to earn money, then I was interested to listen to some, they really regretted that it was impossible to get in the bucks before,
    5. Naum
      Naum April 23 2014 23: 27
      +1
      Tan, they don’t understand normal people. They lie, how they live and live to lie! A country of unscrupulous murders, imagining itself to be the savior of the world. According to their deeds they will be rewarded!
      1. Alex Danilov
        Alex Danilov April 24 2014 03: 22
        +1
        The country is the aggressor, the country is a parasite.
    6. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 24 2014 06: 54
      0
      everything is correctly respected, For an ordinary American everything will go smoothly, But they are so used to dragging these pictures all over the world, because you don’t have to be a big specialist to not know anything, All these so-called media are on a short lead for a long time, the Boss looks very strictly how do they behave
  4. kocclissi
    kocclissi April 23 2014 21: 04
    +5
    This is not cooperation, but really brainwashing, on the part of NATO!
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 24 2014 07: 45
      0
      WELL YES! WELL YES! Of course, if wants the opposite side, basically HOW THEN Revel Media is an outstanding victory of the liberals and article ONE OF Kozyrev why they should run the country, and the second you win guessed PACE really interesting, gentlemen do not you think that all those of the Great Victory of the liberal wing QUICKLY TURNING INTO ANYTHING, ONLY RECENTLY TREATY THROUGH THIS POORED RUSSIAN ELECTRONIC PAYMENT SYSTEM FOR BANK SERVICES, AND NOW THEY FIRSTLY EXTENDEDLY AFTERLY EXTENDLY. ALI HAVE NEVER CREATED IT FOR US, SHE IS NOT NEEDED, AND THIS IS NOT JUST AN OFFICER THIS IS THE INDIVIDUAL FROM WHO DEPENDS ON OUR WELL-BEING, THIS ECONOMIC UNIT WHICH CHANGED IT IS TALKED ABOUT IT, I HAVE A LOT IN FAR TIME ALWAYS Predicted the defeat of the country at any turn, they still say who they are throwing at and will not notice the solutions to the problems they have had, it was a long time ago. Mr. Arbatov, come with them, I got interested in an interesting SUCH SMALL PASSAGE our Foreign Minister, IF UKRAINIANS This power will threaten the lives of our people RUSSIA adequately respond and effective, interesting remarks ALL ALREADY Gad WHAT IS IT AND SAID IT IS IN THE TRANSFER TO THE AMERICAN RESIDENT,
  5. konvalval
    konvalval April 23 2014 21: 10
    +3
    And such a reason they threw the new Kiev authorities.

    Yes, not the Kiev authorities, but the Washington authorities themselves, and threw this reason. Enough to write that there are Kiev "authorities" and they decide something.
  6. morprepud
    morprepud April 23 2014 21: 10
    +5
    On the other hand, it is high time to speak a language such as the United States - that would be less understood, otherwise the rumors divorced more than necessary.

    Tanya, daughter, we speak the US language at market lines. Our Lavrov is an intellectual with the highest standard. He speaks without Zhirinov’s statements, but to the point. The main thing in the calmness of Russia is its confidence.
  7. horoh
    horoh April 23 2014 21: 22
    0
    Cooperation with NATO, by and large, will not give a damn, except for a headache and wasted time !!! As for the sea pirates and air terrorists, it’s somehow sluggish, you can’t believe them, even a little !!!!
  8. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 23 2014 21: 22
    +9
    Wait a "friend" from NATO,
    Do not rush into the ranks.
    The place here is not empty, holy!
    Remember Yelnya, Stalingrad ...
  9. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 23 2014 21: 23
    +8
    <<< Now in Brussels they are discussing only one question: what to "do" with Russia and how to "punish" it. Ukrainian events have confirmed that NATO members need us only when we pursue a policy that suits them. >>>
    And what, without the Ukrainian events, was it not clear? Or are they dug in the Ministry of Defense too ... the people in pink glasses, for whom NATO with the bombing of Yugoslavia, the aggression in Iraq, Libya, the intervention in Syria, with its constant expansion, bases and missile defense system on the borders of Russia is still peace, partnership, reboot! They have obviously forgotten why NATO was created and exists! Its goal is to completely disintegrate the USSR, as it has long been clear, but the FINAL SOLUTION OF THE RUSSIAN QUESTION! But, taking into account Russian nuclear weapons, they can only make plans for now how to "punish" Russia, and, preferably, by someone else's hands!
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  11. Stinger
    Stinger April 23 2014 21: 28
    +1
    Normal, balanced policy. And the man of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the Ministry of Defense has a good combination. At least there are no tantrums and shy away from their own shadow, as in NATO.
  12. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 23 2014 21: 37
    +6
    NATO is not our friend, and it never was, NATO is our enemy, and all its actions towards Russia are hostile. Therefore, there is absolutely no particular worry about their sanctions.
    1. vladlist
      vladlist April 23 2014 22: 36
      +4
      +100 I agree
  13. samuil60
    samuil60 April 23 2014 21: 38
    0
    It is unlikely that everything is just so bad both in the USA and in our country, but the trend is good. The sooner, the better!
  14. sv68
    sv68 April 23 2014 21: 40
    +1
    everything is fine, of course, but what kind of cooperation is it if they simply blatantly spit on all Russian initiatives and proposals? why do we explain to it that you can’t build the world according to concepts, but live by the order from above. Russia just stupidly doesn’t want to hear; worldview
  15. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 23 2014 21: 43
    +9
    Oh, they finish the game, oh, and get it !!!
  16. Andrey82
    Andrey82 April 23 2014 21: 53
    +4
    What does the NATO transshipment point in Ulyanovsk do on our land?
  17. federal
    federal April 23 2014 22: 01
    +5
    We do not need cooperation with NATO, Russia is not negotiating with enemies! The only thing we raped from this is the reduction of our army and armament. So they will disarm us with a quiet glanders, we’ll cut the boats and trains, destroy the rockets, and we will uncle Sam a little petrol in the hammer. We must take advantage of the failure of relations with NATO, terminate the treaty on strategic offensive arms and others, and build up the power of the RF Armed Forces!
  18. pvv113
    pvv113 April 23 2014 22: 02
    +9
    Defense Ministry Redefines Relations with North Atlantic Bloc
    Relations with NATO can only be seen through sight. They don’t understand normal human relations. The main argument in dealing with NATO can only be the threat of using weapons. This is what they fear and understand
  19. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 23 2014 22: 03
    +2
    But to us this is NATO, and so is not NATO, and not NATO. No contacts, no negotiations with the alliance, enough to play with the giveaways, it’s time to tackle the mind. And they will climb into the fray, hit at the snot to defeat. They do not understand good relations.
  20. Black
    Black April 23 2014 22: 04
    +4
    Transparency .... partners .... trust .... alliance .... soft power ....
    words are everything ... like from a porn story ....
  21. BlackJack
    BlackJack April 23 2014 22: 07
    +7
    When France withdraws from NATO - so kayuk! Then Germany will leave - they need it!
    And then they will unite with us - united Russia!
    Hana atlantists laughing
  22. Horly
    Horly April 23 2014 22: 08
    +4
    The key message is that relations (!) With NATO should be beneficial to Russia and not undermine the combat readiness of our army! Otherwise, thank you all, everyone is free!
    1. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 24 2014 03: 27
      0
      The only way.
  23. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 23 2014 22: 17
    +2
    Before, RUSSIA was asleep and NATO countries lulled it. And now, RUSSIA woke up and began to understand who is friend and against whom it is necessary to keep gunpowder in the powder magazine. soldier
  24. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 23 2014 22: 22
    +6
    I don’t know, men. all this is certainly good, but one thing is interesting to me: when will they stop talking about some kind of dybolnoy cooperation, the fight against terrorism and piracy? When will they start calling a spade a spade? And then they wonder why the people do not support the power in something or do not understand!
    It’s clear to me personally that all the actions of Syshya and his mongrels are aimed at the same goal: to weaken Russia by dividing it into parts (the collapse of the USSR), surround it with bases and, at best, set ultimatums and get your own, or even wipe them off the face of the earth. The latter is much more profitable!
    and as soon as powerlessness becomes apparent, whole pieces of land will begin to come off from our land. Jackals are always there.
    This is what I want to hear on ORT at 21 p.m. or from Kiselyov. Stop pushing the bullshit!
    And I also want to hear concrete measures and proposals from the supreme to prevent this!
  25. siberalt
    siberalt April 23 2014 22: 47
    +1
    NATO is maintained by its members. Do they need it? Who is going to attack them? Oh yes. That’s why the Ukrainian script is being played. But he will not crawl. So what? NATO - Tryndets!
  26. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 23 2014 22: 50
    +2
    We anticipate that the pressure of bandits, drug trafficking and all the negative that is associated with this, will only increase on the southern underbelly of Russia.

    drug traffic cannot exist without an addressee .. it is much cheaper and bloodless to destroy these reptiles (recipients-distributors) with their "business" in our cities than to fight traffic at the border.
  27. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 23 2014 22: 58
    +3
    For a week, Europe will stop delivering ALL Russian - gas, timber, metals, oil, and this week NOTHING to import ANYTHING from their junk and sobering up will be INSTANT.
  28. Svetovod
    Svetovod April 23 2014 22: 58
    +2
    There are many suicides around Russia.
  29. andj61
    andj61 April 23 2014 23: 00
    +1
    Either NATO is curtailing its cooperation with Russia, or Russia is reviewing NATO ... Simply put: we really do not get anything from this cooperation, except that our military directly speaks and communicates with NATO fighters. Well, like, to look at each other not through the sight and not through the optics of military vehicles. What else is useful? And is it worth spending time and money on this?
  30. avia1991
    avia1991 April 24 2014 00: 05
    +1
    In general, sheer chatter .. It's a shame for Russia - these are the "diplomats", damn it, they twist everything so that it begins to seem that we are ready to "bend" to anyone! "We will not run if they beckon us!" .. Aha, tell me! It would be better to knock them in the face once, so that they feel it, and then they themselves would start asking for cooperation! And then - "we are open to everyone, we are ready with everyone .." Ugh !!! I'm sick of this sweetness! They shit on you, gentlemen, and you wipe yourself off: "nothing, oh, you need to talk .." And these conversations are a waste of time!
  31. 51064
    51064 April 24 2014 00: 47
    0
    fuck ... send NATO in diplomatic, correct language, with only that exception, while it is more beneficial for us than for them. masks removed from "little green men" - the conversation is over.
  32. Igool
    Igool April 24 2014 01: 09
    0
    English-language sites already see the picture like this:
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  34. Robinson
    Robinson April 24 2014 01: 24
    0
    My opinion is that Russia is being provoked into war. Sneaking on all sides. They scare us, wind themselves up. They wake up, this is not to fight with the weak. So we got to the fraternal country. I hope that our management understands the whole situation with the prospect. And at the expense of talking with NATO or not, I think it’s definitely necessary, otherwise it’s not for x .. not to send, not to surrender, but not to cooperate. Cooperation with NATO is like a one-goal game.
  35. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 02: 45
    0
    Quote: 1812 1945
    Absolutely right, Reasonable, 2,3 (2) Russia's policy in military-political relations with the NATO bloc can be defined by the formula - "piss in the eyes - God's dew." All 23 years, continuous concessions and explanations to us - fools - scientific, like those that the "order bearer" issued in this article. The goal of the Afghan NATO enterprise is to reduce the flight time to any point in the region, to have tracking stations there, some operational rapid reaction forces, and most importantly, to exponentially increase the production of heroin, establish its traffic to Russia and thereby inflict a powerful blow on the gene pool of the nation. It makes me sick to enumerate everything lost, lost, missed ... Because some illiterate whore from the United States in the UN Security Council dares to yell at the representative of Russia, they say - shut up, loser! If this is not done now, then all that remains is to do away with such politicians ...

    Yes, I agree with you. Yes kapets. Let's already bang this usa-bucket!
  36. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 03: 08
    0
    Quote: maks-xnumx
    Yes, it would be necessary to slam the slipper of this enraged cockroach

    In Russia, always be the best! Let everyone who attacks Russia know that he will be killed, dead and buried securely! Russia-kind and good, does not attack anyone, but attacking Russia-reliably bury.
  37. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov April 24 2014 03: 33
    0
    Quote: Tra-ta-ta
    We anticipate that the pressure of bandits, drug trafficking and all the negative that is associated with this, will only increase on the southern underbelly of Russia.

    drug traffic cannot exist without an addressee .. it is much cheaper and bloodless to destroy these reptiles (recipients-distributors) with their "business" in our cities than to fight traffic at the border.

    Destroy recipients in our cities and distributors at the border. In short, they all have a bullet in the forehead. And generally, cut everyone out of the country. So that their spirit was not in our countries! And on the border, a bullet in the forehead. We don’t let a single infection get to us! That we ourselves would die from our drugs! Let them sow bread!
  38. lexx2038
    lexx2038 April 24 2014 04: 06
    0
    Everything repeats itself, the Germans also at one time increased their presence in adjacent territories, and we were hoping for something. It is necessary to prepare, not to clap your ears. Eat less, forge more "iron". They are afraid of iron, only that will stop them. Personally, I have no friends there, and I don't need such partners, I'm not a pervert.
  39. mig31
    mig31 April 24 2014 06: 49
    0
    I never believed in any good relations with NATO, etiquette and no more, WE ARE DIFFERENT !!!, and that says it all ...
  40. mamont5
    mamont5 April 24 2014 07: 35
    0
    "The NATO leadership has decided to use the crisis in Ukraine to build up its military presence at the Russian borders. It seems that Washington and Brussels have long been waiting for an excuse to move the army infrastructure to the East."

    Yes, that is right. After the collapse of the USSR, spending on defense and espionage (the CIA, NSA, etc.) immediately declined, and naturally those guys didn’t like it right away. So I had to organize a terrorist attack 11.09.2001 and urgently find a new enemy. The enemy was found in the person of the former American protege Bin Laden. This image was enough for another ten years. Now he has exhausted himself, and here Russia dared to develop independently and pursue its policy. Atu her! And a new round of expenses ... they wanted to wrap up, but ... the times are not the same. Overwhelm the Americans.
  41. bronik
    bronik April 24 2014 08: 09
    0
    NATO is our real potential adversary, very real. We need to think like in chess three moves ahead. So let's not throw his caps over it.