The US Navy has formed requirements for deck UAVs

According to the "Military Industrial Courier", with a link to Flightglobal, the command of the US Navy has decided on the basic requirements for promising carrier-based unmanned aerial vehicles. The relevant documents were received by four American companies that had previously announced their readiness to take part in the creation of deck drones.

A list of prerequisites was obtained by Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman and General Atomics Aeronautical Systems. It is worth noting that they have already concluded contracts providing for the draft design of deck UAVs. Earlier, representatives of companies reported that although the basic requests have already been formulated, there has not yet been a demand from the military for the durability and stealthness of UAVs.

The development of devices will be carried out within the framework of the UCLASS project. In 2014, 122 million dollars will be spent on it, in 2015 this figure will increase to 403 million dollars. It is planned that before 2019, about 2.7 billion dollars will be spent on the development of decked UAVs.

In early January of this year, Rear Admiral Mike Manazir, head of the air combat department of the US Navy, said that the military wanted a heavier and larger deck drone than the X-47B, designed to demonstrate technology. According to Manazir, its size should be comparable to the size of the F-14 Tomcat fighter. Manazir noted that a promising machine that will be developed as part of the UCLASS project will weigh on the order of 31.8-36.3 tons.

According to the preliminary plans of the Pentagon leadership, promising deck-type UAVs will be used in the 2019-2021 years.

Comments

[Little Muck]

And we need to develop our UAV line and actively develop our electronic warfare systems.
And "buy" new items on a free basis.

[TAMERLAN 7]

they want a heavier and larger deck drone than the X-47B, designed to demonstrate technology. According to Manazir, its size should be comparable to the size of the F-14 Tomcat fighter. Manazir noted that the promising apparatus that will be developed as part of the UCLASS project will weigh about 31.8-36.3 tons.

This means that the device will have a decent range, carrying capacity and nomenclature of weapons!

Quote: Little Muck

And we need to develop our UAV line and actively develop our electronic warfare systems.

I will add that it is necessary to develop means for the early detection of UAVs and means for their destruction! And the media should be drowned early! It’s time for us to adapt ballistic missiles to destroy aircraft carriers, from medium range to ICBMs.

[Mainbeam]

As far as I understand, in drones, communication with the operator is the main vulnerability? The point of investing so much dough if over the enemy’s territory it ceases to be manned?

Khibiny is the latest Russian electronic warfare system, which will be installed on all promising Russian aircraft.

Everything went out. Aegis does not work, screens show turbidity, even Phalanxes cannot receive target designation! SU-24, meanwhile, passed over the Cook deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on a target. Of course, successful - because there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - 10 times more! All attempts by technicians to revive the Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed and only then, when the silhouette of the "drying" melted in the haze above the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed a clear April glowing emptiness.

I understand that this may be a joke. But in the long run, why not?

American unmanned airliner Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel ... were able to land using the AvtoBAZ complex of Russian production, which was previously delivered to an Islamic country

[race]

Yes! We are not Pakistan recent events prove it.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Little Muck

And "buy" new items on a free basis.

or better yet - "cut the soles of cowboys" on the fly -
A tender for repairing a school in Sevastopol hung on the US procurement website
The Civil Engineering Command of the Navy was listed as the customer in the tender on the US government procurement website. The tender was canceled on April 14, 2014. in connection with the "current situation in Ukraine".
Tender has been announced - 5 September 2013 year

MOSCOW, 22 Apr - RIA News. A tender for the repair of Sevastopol Secondary School No. 5 was posted on the US public procurement website. According to the Prime Minister of Crimea Sergey Aksenov, the school was supposed to be reconstructed under the engineering base of the US Navy. The politician reported this on Twitter.

The Tender indicates the US Navy Engineering and Construction Command. According to information on the NAVFAC website, it is engaged in the design, construction and maintenance of facilities and infrastructure for various units of the US Navy.

In the tender documentation, among the required works, the repair of the roof, eight toilet rooms, a gym and locker rooms are listed.

A source-
РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140422/1004934352.html#ixzz2zbhoQ9Q5

[johnsnz]

"Buran", in short, they want

[Aryan]

need to start small
let them first learn how to pitch in a storm

[Roman1970]

Interestingly, are such developments underway in Russia? I would like to ... If "yes", throw a link, I want to read ...

[Andrey77]

And also to me, about our illegal residency. I really want to read. =)

[krechet-1978]

We are developing remote control interceptors for these UAVs))) But seriously, UAV is a promising area of ​​armament. Here is a guide published by armstass.su/?page=categ&cid=165 But there are only those drones that are already on sale and promising developments are a military secret. What we see is already outdated)

[krechet-1978]

Information from open sources (non-secret, commercial). The development and (or) production are carried out by ZAO NPF “KVAND ASKHM”, OJSC ANTK im. Tupolev (Moscow), Research Institute "Coulomb" (Moscow), Design Bureau named after Yakovleva (Moscow), AFM Service LLC, Sokol Design Bureau (Kazan), NPK Irkut OJSC, SPC Antigrad-Avia (Moscow Region Dubna), Vega Radio Engineering Concern OJSC / KB Design Bureau "Ray" "(g. Rybinsk), OJSC" MVZ them. M.L. Milya (Moscow), Kamov OJSC (Moscow Region, Lyubertsy city), Aerocon CJSC (Zhukovsky city government), Sukhoi AKH (Moscow), Transas CJSC / R.E.T. Kronstadt ”(Peter),“ Unmanned Aerial Systems ”(ZALA AERO Izhevsk),“ Radio Plant named after A.S. Popova ”(Omsk), CJSC Eniks (Kazan), Kyshtym Radio Plant, Smolensk Aircraft Plant, KhGAPP (Kharkov), KumAPP (Kumertau), NAPO im. Chkalova (Novosibirsk), PO Strela (Orenburg), Voronezh Aviation Plant

[Saburo]

If he speaks specifically about heavy shock UAVs, we only have the long-suffering "Skat", which seems to be some kind of work.

[Rus2012]

And meanwhile -
Russia has begun to develop an electromagnetic catapult

In Russia, the development of an electromagnetic catapult for aircraft carriers began. This, according to ITAR-TASS, said the Director General of the Nevsky Design Bureau Sergey Vlasov. According to him, the name of the "organization that is engaged in the creation of an electromagnetic catapult" has not yet been disclosed.

It is difficult to say exactly how long it will take to complete the project of the electromagnetic aircraft launcher. “The problem is that the Americans have been working on this for over ten years. They will install their first electromagnetic catapult on the new aircraft carrier Gerald Ford only in 2016, ”Vlasov said, noting that such a launching device would somewhat simplify the ship's design by rejecting, for example, a nuclear installation.

Most likely, tests of the Russian electromagnetic catapult will be carried out on one of the ground-based simulators of carrier-based aviation: in Yeysk or in the Crimea. The electromagnetic catapult is a linear induction motor, which with the help of a special trolley allows you to accelerate aircraft to the separation speed. In the USSR, such developments were not conducted.

Currently, the United States is the only country in the world that has a working prototype of an electromagnetic catapult. It carries the EMALS designation and will be installed on promising American aircraft carriers such as the Gerald Ford. It is believed that China also has an experienced electromagnetic catapult, but its existence has not yet been officially confirmed.

In early July 2013, the Krylov State Scientific Center evaluated the project for developing a promising Russian aircraft carrier in 400 billion rubles, of which 80 billion is the actual cost of the aircraft carrier. It is expected that the design of the new ship will be completed in 2018, four years later than previously planned. The displacement of the aircraft carrier will be about 80 thousand tons.

The current state arms program of Russia for the 2011-2020 years does not provide for the design and construction of a new aircraft carrier. However, funds for the implementation of the project can be included in the new state arms program for the 2016-2025 years. As expected, this document will be presented to the President of Russia in 2015.

Source: lenta.ru

[Good cat]

I propose to rename "unmanned aerial vehicle" to "unmanned aerial vehicle")))

[Good cat]

Was it Obama who was messing with me?)))

[krechet-1978]

Let unmanned aircraft carriers also develop unmanned aircraft, otherwise the crew is very busy.

[Arh]

I wonder when ours will start to produce and supply UAVs in RA, I would like our to be the best !!! ***

[Starover_Z]

But ours are watching, observing, and considering options.
"And then they will slowly descend from the mountain and ...!"

[Andrey77]

Already delivered. But they have not reached the level of a company battalion yet.

[kocclissi]

Everything has its time! Everything will be drones, as well as protection from them!

[fedor13]

After our scout worked on "Cook". The team observed him only visually, which can be done from the UAV.


Judging by the on-board marking, the drone was part of the 66th American military intelligence brigade with a main location in Bavaria.
According to the state corporation Rostec, the U.S. reconnaissance-strike drone MQ-5B was intercepted in the sky over the Crimea.
According to the report, the American military intelligence brigade was transferred to the Ukrainian city of Kirovograd, from where drones make reconnaissance flights towards the Crimea and the border regions of Russia. Earlier, the appearance of such vehicles in the sky has already received reports from the Kherson region, in the area of ​​the Chongar checkpoint, Interfax reports.
“The American brigade was armed with 18 MQ-5B drones. This is the second case of the interception of an American UAV over the Crimea. The drone was at an altitude of about 4 thousand meters and was almost invisible from the ground. Using the electronic warfare complex (electronic warfare - “IF”), Avtobaza managed to break the connection of the UAV with its American operators. As a result, the device made an emergency landing and went to the self-defense forces almost intact, ”the message says.

[Marine One]

Quote: fedor13

According to the state corporation Rostec

Well, show me these dozens of drones planted in Crimea? At least one photo, at least 15 seconds of video? By the way, Rostec on the same day denied this duck for the original authorship of the site "Military Observer", which has already been caught on all sorts of misinformation.

[fedor13]

It was not a question of dozens, but two. And thanks I will look to see if there are any refutations.

[Andrey77]

Show me at least one photo from a US UAV during a database in Yugoslavia.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Show me at least one photo from a US UAV during a database in Yugoslavia

In a museum in Serbia there is a downed Amer traitor.

[Andrey77]

Yes, at least ten. Video from this traitor in the studio.

[Gagarin]

"Rubella" in the Crimea posadin the newest amerovsky drone, I think this is not the limit of domestic electronic warfare. Drying with Khabina-U distinguished itself over an American ship, it seems to me that all these UAVs are not such a superweapon, if you approach them seriously, you are not against Yugoslavia to butt.

[Marine One]

Quote: Gagarin

Drying with Khabina-U

The 24th Dry, seen flying over the Cook, cannot be carried by the Khibina complex. Structurally unable.

[sluganska]

I wonder if the dollar collapses, they will fly on balloons with F1 in hand?
history shows that without financing everything very quickly becomes worthless

[Andrey77]

I wonder if the dollar collapses, they will fly on balloons with F1 in hand?
--
The ruble is backed by a gold reserve. Hryvnia - no. The dollar can be brought down only by destroying the USA.

[Giant thought]

In this aspect of military aviation, we cannot be left behind, we must have our own developments and rather implement them. Otherwise, we will not see good luck.

[SANAY]

We also heard a lot of developments, but we still lag behind in this matter. Our need to work on this issue. I apologize for my amateurish opinion.

[Nitarius]

It would be nice! if there were submarines with such a drone.

[Rohon]

The probability of interception of UAVs is very high, and it is not worth the thought to make special emphasis on these devices.

[Aleksey11]

This is about old UAVs, but on new ones I think differently, since there will be a higher degree of autonomy in decision-making.

[Andrey77]

In modern UAVs, only a metal motor. But alas, or fortunately, it is not detected by radar.

[Andrey77]

Intercept my radio model A-10. Departure time and level I agree.

[Andrey77]

Quite the opposite. The probability of detecting UAVs is low, and intercepting UAVs is a futile undertaking.

[Rohon]

why, the study of other people's technologies.
a lot of important ..........

[Sochi]

Again drones ... There are a lot of such examples in history, in the sense that when something new appears, he was extolled to the skies, then the euphoria subsided and the novelty took its modest place among others, or even disappeared due to unjustified hopes. Well, nowhere is all this robotics to fight instead of people, so auxiliary weapons, and quite vulnerable to the use of electronic warfare.

[Andrey77]

Any operating time requires careful attention. Yes, the UAV will not replace the pilot. But for damage / cost - this is a completely different weapon.

[Aleksandr12]

And why would amers have such a large and heavy drone? For me, so a drone should be faster than maneuverability and lighter than a manned aircraft in order to fully realize its advantages. And so, a waste of money.

[Nayhas]

Quote: Alexander12

And why would amers have such a large and heavy drone?

To fly far and long, and besides not empty, but with a wide range of weapons.

[Sochi]

so they know that their warriors are not so hot, 27 naval amers after flying over flew from the fleet ... and they want to exclude them from the war.

[mig31]

Only calm and patience, Russia is famous for its designers ...

[b.t.a.]

I think the pilot in the cockpit is what you need to successfully complete the task. Electronics is good of course, but people are more rational. Electronics is very vulnerable.

[Aleksey11]

This, incidentally, is an occasion for a very strong thoughtfulness.
Understanding who the Yankees are, you can expect them to launch drones with a very high degree of autonomy, both in targeting and attacking, and tactics for completing tasks - and this is the movie "Terminator" disaster. And most likely the future appearance of aircraft carriers is a crowd of drones of different types and a dozen control, reconnaissance and electronic warfare aircraft under the control of a human crew.

[Vita_vko]

A serious struggle has long been going on between the scientific schools of manned and unmanned aircraft in Russia. Unfortunately, the UAV is losing significantly. Therefore, the appearance of such information about promising developments should be a serious reason for customers to think in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
Personally, I am sure that the next 6th generation of aviation will be unmanned. This is due, first of all, to the increase in the capacities of the software and hardware complex capable of autonomously fulfilling the majority of combat missions, as well as the proliferation of new highly protected high-speed ultra-wideband communication channels.

[Andrey77]

America was not discovered. Everything rests on the control channel, clean of other UAVs and authorized for use. The words protected, in my presence, please do not use. Everything is revealed once or twice, and a complex cipher will not roll in the drone version.

[Aleksey11]

Hacking an encrypted channel while a UAV flies in my opinion is very difficult, especially in the light of modern encryption tools. It is possible to suppress all frequencies, and then the UAV flies home quietly without confirmation of communication. You ask about GPS - here tricks are possible, as I understand it

[scientist]

Quote: Andrey77

The words protected, in my presence, please do not use. Everything is opened one or two,

You are a stern person! But when an ultra-wideband secure communication channel is used, it means noise-immunity, obviously a standard such as WCDMA is understood. As a rule, at a distance of several hundred meters, no reconnaissance receiver can physically detect the fact of transmission.
About cryptographic algorithms. For example, how are you going to open the RSA private key when decomposing a key from a 200-digit number into prime factors requires 4 billion years of computer operation with a speed of 1 million optical units. in s. But if you have scientific developments, then skip the link, I will be pleased to refer to works you know in my safety lectures.

[Andrey77]

I’m not going to open the key. As you said correctly, theoretically this takes 4 billion years (you lied a little here, without saying that it was done by simple exhaustive search). I don’t need to know which teams go to the UAV, I need to know where they are coming from. From the point of view of the radio channel, everything opens with a bang.

[Alex_good]

you know ... I do not believe that AI is not there yet. Even in the most skeptical scenario, to some extent, it is already in development, albeit not a full one. What artificial intelligence does in games and simulations is already something with something beyond ordinary human abilities or even the abilities of trained people. The same chess ... I generally am silent about the speed of response. I believe that a person in modern autonomous robotic systems is no longer an operator, but rather a coordinator ... and if we assume that the analytical, organizational and strategic tasks are successfully automated, then a person in modern weapons is ... well, something like an accelerator in his uniform or service mechanic. And the layouts for the future are very strange ... the human community is changing and only knows how it will end ... but who knows, who knows. =) Good luck to all of us, and a brighter future! even if it’s not enough for everyone ...

[Andrey77]

Terminator. Judgment Day. There is such a movie. But seriously, AI is not yet so developed. Google has some groundwork, but to practical use, stomp and stomp. Or do you take the search for the right word in the mobile for AI? Yes, but what do you know about AI other than cinema?

[Aleksey11]

So AI in modern warfare is not really needed yet. Especially for drones.
A library of signatures and a programmatic description of battle tactics. All that is non-standard is recorded and going home. Hey AI, buzz the processor and philosophize

[scientist]

Quote: Aleksey11

Haha AI, buzz the processor

Do you know such a thing as "protection from the fool"? That's exactly what AI is needed for, especially with the widespread use of ACS. Where AI-based expert systems are simply needed to support commander's decision-making, especially solving forecasting problems.

[Aleksey11]

In analytics and forecasting, yes, and when will it be that the AI ​​will prompt something to the command, only as I understand it at the level of processing an array of information. Yes, and how the AI ​​will function will depend on the algorithm laid down by the developers.
I wrote about weapons systems where reaction time is needed and understanding how the system will behave, and so I will have variations on the topic of a gun or not, and if so, where

[Vita_vko]

Quote: Aleks_good

you know ... I do not believe that AI is not there yet.

You are absolutely right. He is and has been developing for over 20 years. In information technology, this area is called neurocomputers.
Even as a cadet of the military school of radio electronics of air defense in the early 90s, our professors worked closely with KSTU, where the famous scientist Alexander Gorban was engaged in the problems of teaching neural networks. In turn, we studied the possibilities of training these neural networks to recognize radar portraits of various targets. Unfortunately, the introduction of such systems into our military equipment ran into bureaucratic obstacles associated with the lack of clear logic and predictable mathematical algorithms in neurocomputers. It was only later that a separate generally recognized mathematical direction "fuzzy logic" arose. But then, and even now, for the majority of the military, this was not an argument. But already at the end of the 90s, supermodern neurosystems of decision-making support appeared in the USA, which later began to be used on the Aegis ship complexes. Americans are so used to relying on the smart advice of the ship's AI that the occurrence of an emergency situation literally drives him crazy, along with the entire crew. The reason is that he is simply not trained to act in emergency situations. And the war, as you know, is not waged by the rules. A vivid example is the situation with a destroyer in the Black Sea, when the Khibiny on the Su-24 disabled almost all of the ship's systems. The Russian air defense system would immediately react to such actions, the suppressed radars formed bearings in special logarithmic receivers, the automated control system solved triangulation problems and issued target designations to the air defense missile systems, which also have special operating modes for the jammer. But the American air defense systems do not seem to even allow the possibility that they will be opposed by modern electronic warfare systems. Personally, I was very surprised by this 10 years ago, when I began to seriously study NOTOV systems. And what amazed me was that with good and patented methods for spatial signal selection, they hardly ever used them on their radars. I personally have repeatedly tried to get information about such systems, both officially and in a conversation with a good degree, but it seems they really do not have systems of protection against electronic warfare in their air defense systems except for the PPC mode in a wide range. But at the same time, they have made very good progress in protecting against interference with the help of spatial signal selection in GPS navigation systems. Here's a paradox.

[Lars_xiii]

Do not confuse AI and ACS, they are very different things. And the Su-24 cannot carry the Khibiny; first of all, there is not enough electric power.

[scientist]

Quote: Lars_XIII

Do not confuse AI and ACS

This is not a mutually exclusive concept, but complementing each other. If the automated control system is based on rigorous combat control algorithms, then AI is an expert decision support system for the commander’s decisions, and is especially effective in time-constrained situations.

[Lars_xiii]

Games, simulators, chess ... There is no AI there. And it never was. In chess, there is an enumeration of options (roughly speaking), in games there is only an illusion of intelligence. To create an AI, you need to understand how the real one works, but for now, only the ganglion nematodes have difficulty simulating Plus, the unsolved (or unsolvable) problem of fast and reliable pattern recognition, a person does not always cope with that either. And before the creation of AI, drones will occupy a fairly narrow niche, primarily intelligence at various levels, and, well, strikes against a weak enemy.

[andrewvlg]

Quote: Lars_XIII

And before the creation of AI, drones will occupy a fairly narrow niche, primarily intelligence at various levels, and, well, strikes against a weak enemy.

The fact that AI (in the broad sense) cannot be created in the foreseeable future, I agree. If you do not go deeper, then neural networks, search algorithms, etc., etc., are just an imitation of intelligence, if we understand it as human thinking. I will offer a counterexample. Suppose someone created artificial intelligence based on comput. technicians. This is tantamount to creating a new race of people - robots that can easily displace humans. What kind of war between people can we talk about?
You don't need a full-fledged AI to conduct a short fight. Imitation is enough. In the end, the pilot also has a limited set of maneuvers that he uses, sometimes, as they say, "on the machine."
Best regards,

[Lars_xiii]

Imitations, imitations, can then make a cyborg easier and more efficient? For example, to mount a hawk’s brain in a fighter? And in the bomber - a dove By the way, it is not known how the real AI will behave. Maybe he will join one of the belligerents, or in general will be engaged in philosophy?
Sincerely.

[Mareman Vasilich]

I hope and believe that even enemy UAVs and AIs will have the necessary tool in the kit of toilet paper thanks to Russian technology. It will be very difficult, but I'm sure it will be.

[cucun]

Come on, let them build. It will turn out to be the next "Raptor" ...

"When the enemy is mistaken, do not interfere with him, it is not polite." (World of Tanks)

[tnship2]

Let them create. On the approach laser weapon technology. In the year 2020, all these UAVs may already become a dead end branch of the evolution of aircraft.

[Andrey77]

Don’t say it. The dimensions will decrease, maybe the principle. And slamming a fly at night, you will find in your hand a camera with a pin head, a microcircuit with the same head ... Here's how I will not say this garbage yet. But also not 2020.