Hello from Hitler, or Patriots paid in cash

In the Kazakh magazine Zhuldyzdar Otbasy - Anyz Adam (Star House - The Legend Man), a large amount of material was published by the well-known in Kazakhstan arabologist and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly on Hitler. According to Ekho Moskvy radio, the reason why the Russian Foreign Ministry noticed the publication about Hitler was comparing Putin with Hitler. Like it or not (I cannot know what motivated the Ministry of Foreign Affairs), however, I consider the protest of diplomats quite fair. For, as follows from the translation of the article “Hitler is not a Fascist” into Russian, the author clearly justified the actions of Adolf Hitler, and called the sentences of his book Mein Kampf fair and correct.

It must be said that in Kazakhstan itself, the publication caused a mixed reaction. Zharylkap Kalybai, editor of the journal Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Aniz adam, stated that “Hitler’s choice as the hero of the issue was caused by two reasons. We want to show that if at the head of a state a person similar to Adolf Hitler accidentally appears from where, then the people who follow him will fall into the trap. The second reason is “to protect us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of a neighboring country, the Russian empire, reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea again.”

How even? Rallying Russians around their leader, inspiring a national idea - dangerous for someone? Do they have all the hallmarks of a "Nazi-chauvinist idea"? Congratulations, Kalybai-Murza, you are overwhelmed. For you, the domestic policy of Russia does not concern you at all, and nobody asked your assessment of its national idea. It would be better to continue to revive their traditions, our dear ultrapatriot.

Meanwhile, events in Kazakhstan are taking place according to a completely expected scenario: according to the Kazakhstani Internet resource Tengri-News, veterans of Afghanistan, zheltoksanovtsy and a number of other public organizations subjected the journal with an article about Hitler to public anathema and burned them. After studying the article, the Communications and Information Agency of Kazakhstan revealed violations of the legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan: “The contents of the journal have signs of violation of the Constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan regarding incitement of social, national, clan, racial or religious hatred (Article 164 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). The Agency is taking comprehensive measures on this fact. "

It must be said that the magazine, which has thousands of copies of 25 in Kazakhstan, puts Adolf Hitler’s person on a par with such personalities as commander Alexander the Great, enlightener Ibrai Altynsarin and Napoleon, articles about which have already been published in other issues “Zhuldyzdar otasy - Aniz adam ".

By the way, the article 164 of the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan, incriminated by Zharylkap Kalybay, provides for a very wide range of penalties, from a fine of one minimum calculated figure (less than one hundred dollars) to imprisonment for a period of twelve years. I believe that the newly appeared fighter for the independence of Kazakhstan (which no one actually attempted to do) will receive minimal punishment, because even hooliganism on board the aircraft of the Scat Airlines, where he made a brawl due to the fact that the flight attendant did not talk to him in Kazakh, it cost him three days of administrative arrest.

But, as they say, wait and see. In the meantime, it seems to me a very simple thing: all these "ultra-democratic" messages addressed to Vladimir Putin are no more than the efforts of the benefactors lured by overseas benefactors. And the price for such “revelations” would be worthless if it were not for recurrent relapses and “exposures” that arise. While the Washington White House is searching for non-existent Putin capital, the minions of the star-striped democracy diligently work out what they have received. And how else, then? After all, you will work badly - they won't give you more. Is there any more pleasant music in the world than the rustling of dollar bills?

Comments

[Keeper]

Yes, people on the planet shredded!
Silverfish were patriots at one time, and now ?!
Deeper drops - empty looks, one-day desires, lack of Faith in God!

[CALL.]

Quote: Keeper

Hello from Hitler, or Patriots paid in cash

[svp67]

This "bastard" - Kolomoisky, has already announced that EIGHT awards have been paid for the "Russian special forces", according to unconfirmed data, these are just eight citizens of Russia who, by the will of fate, found themselves in those places and expressed their own, so you understand, a different opinion from Kolomoisky ... in this situation, the question is more interesting - what is our Foreign Ministry, is it taking any steps to verify this information? After all, "there is no smoke without fire," and if the citizens of Russia are indeed ILLEGALLY kidnapped and RETAINED, then at least it is time to demand an answer from the "new Vlada" and, moreover, they need to be RELEASED ... And if this does not happen, then than this is not a "casus bell" ...

[I do not care]

In the near future

[Predator]

Tired of it! It’s probably time to start tanks, clean off the oil from shells and fill stores, hang ammunition on planes!

[siberalt]

Why don't you know the Ukrainians? Kolomoisky will be dragged so many "special forces" and "saboteurs" that he will not have enough hryvnia.

[armageddon]

US loot pops up again

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Armagedon

US loot pops up again

G. doesn’t drown.

[Igor39]

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[Predator]

Drown anyway! And those who gave and those who took!

[S_mirnov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

G. doesn’t drown.

Are you lighting a chtoli from him?

[Semurg]

Here is a photo of this magazine. The name of the magazine translates as "legendary or historical figure", this magazine prints such materials about historical figures and whatever one may say, Hitler is such. The only minus was the time the article was published on the eve of Victory, but what can you do, he was born and died the same in these numbers. This magazine has already published materials about many historical figures (Napaleon, Nero, Stalin, Goloshekin, etc.), from their childhood to their death, all their deeds, both good and bad, can be traced. For example, on the cover next to the photo of Hitler it is written "The Second World War - the tragedy of mankind" and there is an article under this heading. 2 pages long article research "Most of the German nation fell victim to the ideologues of fascism." The next article "Hitler considered the Aryans of the ancient ancestors of the Germanic tribes to be the most pure-blooded nation", many more articles in which scholarly historians describe the deeds of Hitler, as well as information concerning childhood and other periods of life and information from his personal life. All this was written for our Kazakh users and Russians from Russia who do not know Kazakh, but write according to the principle "I have not read, but I condemn". And the main whirlwind arose because of one article where Hitler's method of annexing the Sudetenland resembles Putin's today's actions to annex Crimea. I understand that you will still condemn the magazine and my post, but still at least you will write more correctly. It was not the Kazakhs who became fascists-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler .

[Tersky]

Quote: Semurg

Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

And where is it in the afternoon? -

The editor of Zhuldyzdar Obybasy - Aniz Adam magazine Zharylkap Kalybai stated that “Hitler's choice as the hero of the issue was caused by two reasons. We want to show that if at the head of the state it is not known where a man similar to Adolf Hitler appears from, then the people who follow him will fall into the trap. The second reason is “to save us from the dangerous policies of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, which is reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea again».

I don’t know how the Kazakhs are in general, but the representative of the RK mass media spoke out so clearly and so categorically and targetedly that it sweeps away all your attorney's arguments about the comparison, good and bad ..

[Semurg]

and Zharylkap says that the methods of Hitler and Putin to collect the Russian and German world are very similar. Representatives of the RK mass media spoke out differently in the mass of Russian-condemned, the Kazakh-speaking supported. The discussion will not end until the Russian speakers can read the translation, because they do not understand Kazakh and are judged.

[Tersky]

Quote: Semurg

The discussion will not end until the Russian speakers can not read the translation, because they do not understand Kazakh and are judged.

You are again trying to let the fog onto a very specific summary of the article by Zharylkap Kalybay - “Protect us from the dangerous policies of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, reviving Nazi chauvinist idea again. ", sound it at least in the language of the Bedouins, this anti-Russian nonsense will not change the meaning.

[Semurg]

The discussion in the media of the Republic of Kazakhstan will not end about the content of articles in the journal. And the quoted lines are Zharkylkap’s personal opinion and it’s quite clear and there is no fog, he doesn’t want any alliance with today's Russia. You can brand him for it.

[koshh]

Quote: Semurg

to save us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea anew "., about

And tell Semurg. is the translation correct or not in the quote above? You also think that Russia is reviving the Nazi-chauvinistic idea (only whose?), If you defend the author. And could you justify it.

[Semurg]

Quote: koshh

And tell Semurg. is the translation correct or not in the quote above? You also think that Russia is reviving the Nazi-chauvinistic idea (only whose?), If you defend the author. And could you justify it.

Actually, the author of these lines does not need protection, he expressed his thoughts. In my posts I wrote about some of the content of this magazine, so that people would have an idea of ​​what it was about. And all the cheese boron came from one statement in an article in this magazine about the similarity of the methods of GDP and Putin, on their way of collecting land. Now explain what to justify you, if according to the author's quote, then there is nothing to justify everything is very clearly written. If, according to my position about today's Russia, after Crimea, the view changes with the Russian Federation, a fighter against universal evil, the Russian Federation adopts methods of fighting evil from evil (for me, evil cannot be defeated by methods, no matter how it is justified by "protecting compatriots, collecting lands, restoring historical justice, etc., for reasons you can think of a wagon and a small cart)

[Polarfox]

Please answer, dear, does the agency for information and mass media of the Republic of Kazakhstan also not understand?

[Polarfox]

And nobody called the Kazakhs fascists. But, nevertheless, there is a note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation to the government of Kazakhstan regarding this article. And there is the conclusion of the Kazakhstani communications and media agency, recognizing that “The content of the journal’s issue has signs of violation of the constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan regarding incitement to social, national, tribal, racial or religious hatred (article 164 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). The Agency is taking comprehensive measures on this fact. ” Or does it, the agency, also do not understand Kazakh?

[Semurg]

The Russian Foreign Ministry sent a note of protest, our agency is checking and if they find these signs and prove in court the magazine will be punished. They understand whether they understand Kazakh or not, I think they understand, but there is one thing, but the political aspect will prevail over this matter and if the agency does not prove 100% of calls for social hostility and so on and enmity and sells this business with the help of the admin resource, this will lead to further radicalization of our views in the Republic of Kazakhstan. If they find and prove 100% this and this paragraph calls for enmity, then the Kazakhs will accept it, and if they are pulled over to calm the Russian-speaking people (who have not read, but condemn), then this is another step towards radicalizing views (when if you beat for a cause, you take it when you beat for anything or for the sake of someone, then there is bitterness). It seems that he painted everything in detail?

[Ulus5]

Quote: Semurg

Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

Before comparing incomparable things, one would need to know the 23-year history of Crimea as part of Ukraine. Putin has nothing to do with it, except that he acted as a man and fulfilled all the aspirations of the Crimeans, and the whole Russian people, by joining Crimea to Russia.
And those who draw the line of identification of the Crimea with the Sudetenland don't know much about history, but they act at the direction of illiterate unfortunate historians from the Phasington regional committee. That's where the Nazis really settled in, so it’s in the White House.

[Semurg]

Quote: Ulus5

Quote: Semurg

Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

Before comparing incomparable things, one would need to know the 23-year history of Crimea as part of Ukraine. Putin has nothing to do with it, except that he acted as a man and fulfilled all the aspirations of the Crimeans, and the whole Russian people, by joining Crimea to Russia.
And those who draw the line of identification of the Crimea with the Sudetenland don't know much about history, but they act at the direction of illiterate unfortunate historians from the Phasington regional committee. That's where the Nazis really settled in, so it’s in the White House.

From the point of view of Russians, I’m familiarized with all the channels of the Russian television and radio and with posts on the internet, I don’t need to explain this personally, unless you need to constantly say and repeat it yourself, like a prayer.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Die for Benya!

How will you look at this cream of society (cream in the singular - "cream" right?) ... Proud profile, firm step ...! (This is not about him!)
I’d like to give my life! Well, I don’t understand my own ... Tarutas, for example, Dobkin, Kernes, can’t do this ...
Good guys! I would hate banderlogs less if they showed the world at least one, even a negative character in which you could feel the power, charisma, fire of action ... well, at least something!
And so, looking at their panopticon of deceased and now surviving heroes, you just want to spew out vomit from yourself!

[Max_Bauder]

all these "ultra-democratic" messages to Vladimir Putin are nothing more than the efforts of grant-minders fed by overseas benefactors.

That says it all

[Name]

Zharylkap Kalybai, who stated that: "... if the head of state from nowhere(they don’t know! ) by chance a person similar to Adolf Hitler appears, then the people who follow him will fall into a trap. The second reason is "to protect us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, who is reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea anew"just bears a complete NORSE IN HOPE TO ATTENTION KAZAKHOMAIDANUTY with the support of Amer.

[SS68SS]

Quote: name

Zharylkap Kalybai, who stated that: "... if the head of state does not know where

Unknown to whom? We all know how ... and Zharylkap Kalibay was born yesterday ...

[serzhserzh86]

I have no words...

[SS68SS]

some drooling ....

[Roman1970]

It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ... Nazism is evil! People quickly forget the horrors of war, unfortunately ... The Nazis in Ukraine are a prime example ... I wonder HOW Ukrainians will celebrate May 9 in the light of the policies of their government? Although, the opinion of the magazine, of course, is the matter of the magazine itself, but in the same Germany, I think such a magazine would be closed ...

[mamont5]

Quote: Roman1970

It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

[Sid.74]

Quote: mamont5

Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

I agree!
Here you have a short cartoon on the topic of 28 Panfilov’s, there is a phrase in the credits saying that every 5 Kazakhstani stood up in arms to defend the Homeland from Nazi aggression!

[Des10]

Thanks to the Kazakhs for memory.

[Canep]

Quote: mamont5

Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

In general, you need to pay attention to such publications, and the prosecutor's office should pay attention. Sathya in Tengrinews:

The Communications and Information Agency of Kazakhstan has commented on the release of the Aniz Adam magazine with Hitler on the cover, Tengrinews.kz reports. The editor-in-chief of the publication is Zharylkap Kalybai, who was previously implicated in a scandal on board the plane of the SCAT airline, we recall that he insulted the stewardess for not answering him in the state language.

"Upon the release of the April issue of the magazine" Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Akyz adam ", the Agency for Communications and Information of the Republic of Kazakhstan informs the following: the content of the issue of the magazine has signs of violation of the Constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan in terms of inciting social, national, tribal, racial or religious hatred (Article 164 Of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan) ", - indicated in the press service of the department.

"The agency is taking exhaustive measures on this fact," it says. According to the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan, the maximum term for this crime is up to 12 years in prison. At the same time, the first part of Article 164 may be applied to Kalybai, then he will be punished with a fine of up to 1000 MCI or a prison term of up to 7 years.

Let us remind you that the issue of the magazine "Aniz Adam" in Kazakh language was published, which was completely dedicated to the 125th anniversary of Adolf Hitler. In publications, the authors describe him as a great, strong personality, claiming that he fought for the rights of his people. The author of one of the articles compares Vladimir Putin to Hitler, noting that the President of Russia by his actions can hardly lead to such consequences.

More details: http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/12-let-tyurmyi-grozit-izdatelyu-jurnala-any

iz-adam-razjiganie-natsionalnoy-253879 /
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to Tengrinews.kz

[Lyubimov]

Well, a lot of the prosecutor's office of Russia paid attention to the statements of Novodvorskie, Shenderovich, etc. etc. !?

[Tor hummer]

Quote: mamont5

Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

And it doesn't matter - "all or not all". In Ukraine, too, not all Russophobes, but the whole country dances to the tune of the latter.
And in Kazakhstan it will be the same, only worse. Discrimination of Russians there takes place throughout, over the past 20-30 years, and this process will only increase.
Soon we will have to introduce polite people to northern Kazakhstan and hold a referendum there on the reunification of Russian lands.

[hommer]

Looked at your account.
Registered on the site in February this year.
No place of residence indicated.
The first flag is Moldavian, then Romanian.
Then without a flag and now, miraculously - Russian.
Comments like pro-Russian, but if you think about it ...
The provocateur-guest performer? The shale?

[goose]

Some scum do not express their opinion, if they do not see support in the immediate environment, something like this. There is no smoke without fire.

[abrakadabre]

and the opinions of individual garbage should not be paid attention.

Worth it. Very worth it. Litigation for the protection of honor and dignity, insulting the memory of veterans and so on. Moreover, monetize these claims to the maximum and bring to the payment of victims. If anything, then even forcibly through the bailiffs.
If he knows that this will blather and he will eat the leftovers in the garbage for the rest of his life, he will very much think about what to say out loud.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: mamont5

mamont5


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Quote: Roman1970 It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ... Actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

When the Arabs say, I immediately remember the film Kingdom, they are so-so. sold their brothers (Muslims) in collaboration with the Americans, several times were against Egypt, Iraq and Syria in the Arab-Israeli wars, although for every slave a Jew is an enemy (not me I'm not an anti-Semite), and now supplies militants against Assad, also defenders of Islam to me. I will not be surprised if they supply this Rasul, the task of the Arabs is not to bring Islam or, as they say, "pure faith" to Central Asia, but to split the former Union countries, they have been doing this since the Afghan war. Ultrapatriots are simply black footers. if they do not see the baaaaalsh geopolitics, and if they see and consciously split society, then you know how to call them.

[Horst78]

Quote: Roman1970

People quickly forget the horrors of war

So she did not reach them. Where are the places of German bombing in Kazakhstan?

[nemec55]

The bombing in the hearts of people who fought and there were many Kazakhs in the war, and such great as Aliya Moldagulova Manshuk Mametova, etc. and if you bring here also the Russian-speaking, this will be a whole army of veterans of the Great Patriotic War heroes so that they do not need to see the bombing they took Berlin.

[Horst78]

Quote: nemec55

The bombing in the hearts of the people who fought and there were many Kazakhs in the war

I completely agree with this.

[Corsair]

Quote: Roman1970

It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

Well, our Foreign Ministry has reacted, but what about the reaction of OFFICIAL Kazakhstan?

[Yerlan]

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan called the publication of the magazine dedicated to Hitler inadequate and unacceptable.
"We consider the publication of this magazine, dedicated to one of the bloodiest villains in the history of mankind, to be absolutely inadequate and unacceptable. It is an insult to the feelings and memory of millions of people, especially veterans of the Great Patriotic War, who valiantly fought against fascism, defended their homeland from the monstrous Nazi machine and died in the fields. war, "- said in a widespread commentary of the Kazakh Foreign Ministry.
And here's another:
The prosecutor's office has begun a pre-investigation check on the release of the magazine "Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Akiz Adam" dedicated to Hitler, the press service of the General Prosecutor's Office of the Republic of Kazakhstan said.
Read more: http://news.nur.kz/310845.html

I really hope that there will be an indicative flogging of these morons. In another way, apparently they do not understand, they completely blasted off permissiveness.

[sergey72]

Quote: Yerlan

I really hope that there will be an indicative flogging of these morons. In another way, apparently they do not understand, they completely blasted off permissiveness.

[Polarfox]

From the heart, plus. Thanks for the competent comment.

[siberalt]

And what, in Russia there are few de-Stalinists comparing Stalin with Hitler, and the USSR with fascist Germany?

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/076/autm875.jpg

[Lyubimov]

Quote: Roman1970

It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

Not Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler, but several well-paid idiots. It is not necessary, on the opinion of several idiots, to draw conclusions about the whole state.
And after all, after listening to Zyuganov, we can say that Russia is only engaged in the promotion of communism

[Little Muck]

Quote: Lyubimov

Not Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler, but several well-paid idiots.

So take this idiot and talk with addiction.
Immediately everything will climb (appearances, flogged, addresses, names). And then publish the confession online.
You look and scribble madmen diminish.

[Polarfox]

Do not generalize, please. It is not Kazakhstan that popularizes Hitler, but a specific person with nationalist views and a scandalous reputation. I don’t know about the South of Kazakhstan, and the northerners have nothing against Russia. Take, for example, Ermek Taychibayev, who announced on Facebook a reward for the head of a Maidan rogue in opposition to Privat Bank with its bandit owner. True, the "democratic" Facebook was quickly removed by Yermekov, saying that it was unacceptable. Well, yes, Taichibaev is not Kolomoitsev, he is not!

[Alexey N]

I don't like Putin. More precisely, I do not like the outcome of his fourteen-year reign. But comparing him with Hitler is the height of stupidity, ignorance and toothless hatred. to Russia

[Scandinavian]

National Liberal local spill ... do not pay attention to it, BUT punish in all severity, so that others are not accustomed.

[Name]

Quote: Scandinavian

don't pay attention to him

I do not agree with this phrase , it’s worth paying attention to, or you’ll have to switch your attention to Kazakhstan from Ukraine ... dd.o.t.o. to a dime a dozen ... and Kazakhstan is no exception.

[in emerald]

Provocator

[Semurg]

Quote: siberalt

Close the magazine, and the editor with the journalist in jail. And then the position of Astana will be clear.

Yes, and revive Karlag? and there is a place for you to leave here is just a question of who is a prisoner or escort?

[siberalt]

Close the magazine, and the editor with the journalist in jail. And then the position of Astana will be clear.

[their]

The most interesting thing is that a week before the release of this issue of the magazine, the famous Israeli politician Ehud Barak came to Alma-Ata to the media forum as an expert. And in general, he began to visit Kazakhstan often, fortunately in Kazakhstan there is no such a strong Jewish community and oligarchs as in Ukraine, you have to come and shine openly.

Of course, I can be mistaken about Barak, but knowing that his military junta is creating in Syria, Palestine, Ukraine, it is quite logical to link these events.

[Gagarin]

A lousy bird sings for the grains.
A sure sign that the GDP is doing everything right, otherwise the West would praise and reward.

[Bi_Murza]

I put a plus to the article. I correctly noticed the chapter, the magazine’s editor and the author who justifies Hitler.

[Stepnyak]

that's how we feel about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlefFTzoAk

[Polarfox]

Here is the plot:

[raven75]

In how. Western licking in Kazakhstan appeared. Although, what is there to be surprised, even if we have them in Russia. I hope that Kazakhs themselves will stifle this moron (which they do, judging by the article).

[andko5]

Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...

[Horst78]

Quote: andko5

Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals.

+ south of Siberia. Here they are such "patriots" and are cracking that even there "little green men" will appear.

[Horst78]

The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

[Tor hummer]

Quote: Horst78

The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

Kazakhs and Bolsheviks minus you.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Horst78

Horst78
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The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

How much has left Chechnya? how many died there?

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Quote: andko5
Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals.
+ south of Siberia. Here they are such "patriots" and are cracking that even there "little green men" will appear.

Nobody is shaking, I’m sure, about the territory, read the story about the Saks, the lands of Dasht-i Kipchak, the Golden Horde, then the Kazakh Khanate, what? do not read?

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: andko5

andko5


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Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...

You scratch as if you personally gave it away, so let me try: "Your great-grandfather owed my half of my kingdom a long time ago, so when will you give it back?"

[their]

In Kazakhstan, a similar scenario will be played by the Zionists, as in Ukraine in the coming 2 years. First, they will pit the Russian people with the Kazakh people through crime, through paid Natsik they will cultivate Russophobia among the Kazakhs. Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

Kazakhstanis do not sit back, you need to put in place the Nazi bastards and destroy in the bud their attempts to embroil the Russians and Kazakhs.

[KOH]

Last time, Kazakhstan has been alarming, I agree with you, Kazakhstanis, be on the alert, this hydra is imperceptibly creeping ...

[sledge]

As an option, it is quite possible. The obvious failure of the PEDE and the EU and Ukraine in Ukraine is increasingly suggesting - who is next? Or who is the first in line Kazakhstan or Belarus?

[KOH]

Belarus is unlikely, but Kyrgyzstan ...

[Tor hummer]

Quote: CON

Belarus is unlikely, but Kyrgyzstan ...

Belarus is just not "vryatli", but Kyrgyzstan is generally indifferent to what will be there - if only fewer migrants to Russia were sent from there.

[Tron]

Quote: sus

Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

[sergey72]

Quote: TroN

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind?

[Semurg]

Quote: sergey72

Quote: TroN

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind?

one user fabricated a linden by signing Kazakhs instead of the Mongols, the other is ready to spread it longer, well done keep the seekers of straws in the eyes of others.

[Humpty]

Quote: sergey72

Quote: TroN

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind?

This .. wound should be preserved in case you want to be considered a layman. I confirm that the photo is not Kazakhs.
You can sign anything. The author of the words under the photo-loshara and stupid provocateur.

[Zymran]

These are the Mongols, actually.

[Tron]

Quote: Zymran

These are the Mongols, actually.

The point is not whether they are Kazakhs, Mongols or Russians. As they say, "the family is not without ...". Simply, when nationalism in its most extreme manifestations begins to be justified, expect trouble. And I really don't want the CIS countries to become the arena of the events that are happening now in Ukraine.

[Zymran]

Quote: TroN

Yes, the point is not that it is Kazakhs, Mongols or Russians

The point is that these are not Kazakhs, but Mongols.

Quote: TroN

Just when nationalism in its most extreme manifestations begins to justify itself - wait for trouble.

In fact, none of those who raised the butch did not read this magazine and do not know what is written there.

[Tron]

Quote: Zymran

In fact, none of those who raised the butch did not read this magazine and do not know what is written there

Well, the forum has one of the goals to get to the truth.

[bomg.77]

Quote: Zymran

These are the Mongols, actually.

did not see your comment, but also wrote about it.

[siberalt]

Interestingly, do the Mongols even know who Hitler is? Before them, even the Japs did not have time to reach.
There on the blue pediment of the building is the same symbol as your flag. Or are you from Mongolia?

[Guard]

Quote: siberalt

Interestingly, do the Mongols even know who Hitler is? Before them, even the Japs did not have time to reach.

I marvel at your ignorance. Several times already I saw you writing frank ignorant nonsense.
As for this your statement, then:
a) Mongolia knows very well who Hitler is. Mongolia was an ally of the USSR in the war against Nazism, and made a feasible contribution to the defense capability of the Soviet Union through its disinterested supply of goods during the war years. The tank column, built with donations from the Mongols, reached Berlin, as did the numerous Mongol horses that made up the lion's share of the Red Army's horse stock.
b) Mongolia was attacked by Japan. It was on the territory of this country that the Red Army fought with the Japanese - in the Khalkhin Gol area.

[nnnnnn]

Quote: TroN

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

This photo is from Ulaanbaatar. the neo-Nazi group Tsagaan Hass, whose name translates as White Swastika,
Tsagaan Hass leaders say they do not support violence, although they respect Adolf Hitler. At the same time, they lose sight of the fact that the captured Red Army men, who had pronounced Mongoloid features, were shot by the Germans without bringing prisoners of war to the camp.
The Mongol Nazis believe that the main threat to the purity of their race is the Chinese. They seduce Mongolian women to marry them, obtain coveted Mongolian citizenship and in this way break free from the guardianship of the authorities of their native Celestial Empire. Leader Tsagaan Hass Ariunbold Altanchum

[Zymran]

Quote: nnnnnn

At the same time, they lose sight of the fact that the captured Red Army men, who had pronounced Mongoloid features, were shot by the Germans without bringing prisoners of war to the camp.

And the Kalmyk cavalry corps and the Turkestan legion from whom did they recruit?

[Tron]

Thanks, I will know now

[RUSS]

Quote: TroN

Quote: sus

Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

In this photo, the Mongol Natsiks, not Kazakhs ....

[Zymran]

Quote: RUSS

In this photo, the Mongol Natsiks, not Kazakhs ....

By the way, Hitler is a very popular figure in Iran, India and Pakistan. And local patriots here seem to be very supportive of Iran and its regime. Maybe send them a note?

[hommer]

These are not Kazakhs.
On the left of the building are inscriptions in Mongolian, not Kazakh!
In such a T-shirt in Kazakhstan, only a suicide can appear on the street!

[Humpty]

He also drew attention to the inscriptions. But it is not necessary to look at them. It seems immediately obvious that there are some Mongols. In Russia, unfortunately, many Tajiks are not distinguished from the Mongols by their faces.

[bomg.77]

This photo is not Kazakh, but Mongolian. In Mongolia, the youth now has a cult of Fascism, they are struggling with Chinese expansion.

[Scandinavian]

Quote: sus

In Kazakhstan, a similar scenario will be played by the Zionists, as in Ukraine in the coming 2 years. First, they will pit the Russian people with the Kazakh people through crime, through paid Natsik they will cultivate Russophobia among the Kazakhs. Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

Kazakhstanis do not sit back, you need to put in place the Nazi bastards and destroy in the bud their attempts to embroil the Russians and Kazakhs.

I agree and support for the consent and unity of the peoples of Kazakhstan, I hope that in Kazakhstan we have more sane people than the liberals and Natsiks of the local spill, serially stamped under one cliche.

[sergey72]

Quote: Scandinavian

I hope that in Kazakhstan we have more sensible people than the liberals and Natsiks of the local spill, serially stamped under one cliche.

And the stamping shop at hand is the so-called Turan University .... a reflex camera from our HSE adjusted for the local ethnic group ...

[Guard]

Quote: sergey72

And the stamping shop at hand is the so-called Turan University .... a reflex camera from our HSE adjusted for the local ethnic group ...

sho for nonsense?

[blizart]

I represent some military authorities, it is clear that we only act on orders, there was no command to touch the religious "figures" in the troops, so they put the units on the parade ground for prayer (!), Not to mention the prayer rooms in the barracks and the observance of fasting. A team came in (after Zhanaozen), uprooted to hell in less than six months, who was fired, who was heated up for "cabbage", and who was imprisoned, and they did it with pleasure. So a lot depends on the people giving orders, if they are not against our conscience, then we are always welcome

[Rus_87]

We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons (in any case, I understood that they were water cannons) But to the credit of our government, they quickly "extinguished" everything quietly, not allowing it to flare up, but apparently, "sparks "still remained ...

[Zymran]

Quote: Rus_87

We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons

Bullshit. If these events took place, then where is the media coverage, or at least publications on the Internet?

[Semurg]

Quote: Zymran

Quote: Rus_87

We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons

Bullshit. If these events took place, then where is the media coverage, or at least publications on the Internet?

Of course, I live in the south, I have never seen or heard of such a thing. Maybe he means "dombra party" is when young people gathered in parks and sang songs to the dombra, but they were forbidden to do so because vigilant citizens called the police and complained that it bothers them and interferes with what the Kazakhs sing about.

[Rus_87]

Do you live in the south, where exactly is the city? The fact that they did not hear or did not read about it on the Internet does not mean that it was not! The events in Zhanaozen didn’t advertise with us too, if it weren’t for the Russian media, they would not have really known anything.

[romb]

And who said that the citizens of Kazakhstan learned about the incident indicated to you only through the Russian media? Moreover, the information provided by these media was too biased in its content. Everyone has known and knows about it for a long time - the principle of "Uzyn Kulak" works very well for the Kazakhs.

[Andrey KZ]

Quote: Zymran

Lie.

Greetings. It’s kind of nonsense, not a couple of years, a little more than years ago it was, at the level of rumors, it seems, someone was trying to organize something by December 16, they said that the initiative came from Rakhat. But everything at the level of rumors remained. Maybe the authorities worked, or maybe someone just launched a horror story, I won’t say anything. Personally, I didn’t particularly bother, familiar Kazakhs said that all this garbage, if they find a couple of thugs, then we will pull our legs out to them.

[Semurg]

Andrey salem. rumors and rumors or gossip and gossip, or one grandmother said, to be honest, the Russian-speakers have a convulsive readiness for persecution according to the national sign, I think some of the Russian-speakers spread these rumors themselves and then enjoy them. How in my childhood we frightened each other with scary stories about the "black hand", with bated breath we told each other and then at night we were afraid to go to the toilet

[Andrey KZ]

Salem Sagat. I have not believed rumors and gossip for a long time.

Quote: Semurg

to be honest, Russian-speaking convulsive readiness for persecution on a national basis

To be honest, the fears were at the beginning of the 90's, so they were left there.

[Semurg]

It’s good that fears were left in the past, 90 there was a generally desperate time, as I remember so I shuddered fires in all the yards where they cook food and darkness after sunset. There are separate duriks turned on nats.voprsah (as without them ), but the main population thinks about completely different problems, here the granddaughter sits nearby and annoys at the expense of the ball gown at the prom from the kindergarten, and I sit and pretend to grumble about what the graduation is doing in the kindergarten, and I’m wondering what part of the bag to this event .

[dimdimich71]

The most interesting thing was in Kaskelen, more precisely at Chemolgan station, there were such cases, the Russians are fighting with the Kazakhs, but it’s worth hearing that the Turks are turning up and they are already going to beat the Turks together — it was 1988 and I still don’t understand why there was such an attitude towards the Turks?

[Zymran]

These are Meskhetian Turks, remember Fergana 1989

[romb]

And from this place in more detail ....

[Kasym]

No, Rus 87, in Shymkent the last time the cops were thrown over because of some kind of rapist who raped a youngster. The cops screwed up there either - either they released them, or they gave them a bribe and they released them. Well, our Texas let everyone out there crap. I don’t remember who was a rapist by nationality, I think a Caucasian. Well, there the cops and Caucasians got it. Someone from the acquaintances of Chimkens said that in hospitals the people are full - only Caucasians.
And what have the Slavs to do with it? Ruslan, then with your comment our Russian friends will start poking us. Here it was, here your countryman writes that you are oppressing the Russians. Not good at it. I advise you to remove it.

[andj61]

Quote: mamont5

Quote: Roman1970
It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

It is very disappointing that this is generally possible in Kazakhstan. I think that the Kazakhs are a wise people, and they themselves will deal with similar liberalistic Fuhrer local bottling!

[Kasym]

Andrey, our laws are tough on this score. I already wrote that 83 people. put for ter. and extras. ... If there really is something there (praise and propaganda of Nazism, incitement of international strife - at least 5 years), then the prosecutor's office will react (check is scheduled). In our country, parties and public organizations and movements on a national basis (except for diasporas, for example, the Russian Community of Kazakhstan) are also prohibited by law. That is, such as "Freedom", "Right Sector" are prohibited. There are even specials. state body - the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan. Where all the diasporas are represented (9 seats in parliament for the ANC with rotation every two years). The ANC develops laws in terms of the peaceful existence of all nationalities living in the Republic of Kazakhstan and the prevention of extremism, intolerance in religion, language and nationality.

[Corsair5912]

All these animals with a nationalistic smell do not understand the main essence of fascism-Nazism.
Nazi Nazi and Hitler can only be called one who divides humanity into higher and lower races, into slaves and masters, who are trying to establish the dominance of their nationality or race over other people.
A pig demanding that the flight attendant speak Kazakh with him can be called a fascist.
Putin never proclaimed the Russians a race of masters, on the contrary, to the detriment of the Russians, he gives more rights to national minorities, such as Kazakhs. Even if he had joined the EU and the USA to Russia, Putin has nothing to do with Hitler.

[Giant thought]

As they say, the road to hell is strewn with good intentions, and the excuses of the magazine owners do not stand up to criticism. Advertising fascism do the most thankless job. Democrats must have forgotten about Buchenwald, so take a trip and refresh your memory.

[groin]

Without payment and ordering from outside, he wouldn’t even have enough brains to fill out a postcard, but it issues a magazine. Their employers always and everywhere choose performers, as it were, in the correct way, inadequate.

[Scandinavian]

Quote: groin

Without payment and ordering from outside, he wouldn’t even have enough brains to fill out a postcard, but it issues a magazine. Their employers always and everywhere choose performers, as it were, in the correct way, inadequate.

YES stopudovo without the help and the Central Administration of the Amerov Embassy in the Republic of Kazakhstan, this article would not have come out ... after all, in May signing the agreement on the Eurasian Union between the Russian Federation, the Republic of Kazakhstan and the BR ....

[KOH]

Amer, oh how painful it is to watch as the time of signing approaches, I think this is not the last trick of the cattle ...

[Zomanus]

If they really give the minimum salary, it is worth working in this direction. Because we can really see on the example of Ukraine what these "little things" then grow into. At first, the Banderaites were not taken seriously either. Now this has to be done sharply and harshly. Especially if in Russia such people with their "special vision" suddenly emerge.

[Ruswolf]

And who knows from what derivative "Maidan"
Not by chance from "MAIDANEK!
Can send all maydaunov home?

[andj61]

Quote: andko5

Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...

In general, the Kazakhs grazed cattle near Saratov and near Astrakhan. And some clans not only beyond the Volga, but also went beyond the Don. As soon as we begin to pronounce such words out loud in relation to our allies, we become weaker, moreover, both Russia and Kazakhstan. Our peoples were united over 200 years ago, their friendship was sealed with blood in the Great War. We must not forget that Kazakhstan was formed as a union republic in the 30s, when a world revolution was still awaited and firmly believed in its inevitability. ".. it means that in a world without Russia, without Latvia, to live as a single human community." Many Kazakhs remember this and themselves advocate not just an alliance, but even unification with Russia into one state. And now, oh, how you shouldn't touch the issues of territories in relations with Kazakhstan at all, which does not mean a refusal to support Russian political and social movements operating within the framework and according to the laws of Kazakhstan.

[Nomad]

The Prosecutor General’s Office began checking the journal dedicated to Hitler http://news.nur.kz/310845.html
Kazakh Foreign Ministry called Hitler magazine unacceptable http://news.nur.kz/310817.html

[Celmz]

"Maidan" - as I understand it, this is an area, and these, suddenly enlightened from an immense number of dollars, of course works out - do not forget that you can print as many as you like.

[shaman-25rus]

about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...

[Tor hummer]

Quote: shaman-25rus

about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...

Ughus, and in another 5 years all these grandfathers will die out, and Kazakh-Natsiks, on the contrary, will multiply and then the Russians will really begin to "trample" there.

[nnnnnn]

Quote: shaman-25rus

about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...

Damn, well, when you are taught to lie in your office normally. How did you know that these three Kazakhs were nationalists with a bandage on his arm? or they came up to you and we introduced ourselves as Kazakhs and Nazis and we’ll beat you, or maybe it’s all corny three gopniks just to **** ’to you? Why pipet about anything?

[shaman-25rus]

Weird. First. I'm not from the office. Secondly. The words "what the hell came to my country and go to your Russia" seem to hint.

[Nomad]

Quote: andko5

Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...

Woah, it starts! Popular motive, yes. Questions.
1. What can be the original Russian lands east of the Ural Mountains?
Siberia is de facto and de jure Russian, but it is not native Russian land. Do you understand the difference? Northern Kazakhstan, which you are hinting at, is all the more not Russian: neither de jure, de facto, nor historically.
2. Is there little land in Russia?
3. What does it mean illegally? The Kazakh border is completely and completely delimited and demarcated in the 1990s. If this is illegal, then what borders in the modern world can be considered legal at all? The same Siberia Muscovy took over legally, or what? But the European part of Russia - the Finno-Ugric lands subordinated to the Kiev princes - is it legal or may you want to play back, as it was?
For your information, the Kazakhs grazed their sheep from the Volga to the China Wall. And our direct ancestors - so in general throughout the entire steppe belt of Eurasia from the Danube to the Pacific Ocean in those days when there was not even a mention of the Moscow Principality.
By the way, Orenburg and Omsk were built on the land of Kazakh nomads, not without reason in the 1920s Orenburg was the capital of the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. Tashkent was owned by Kazakhs for 200 years with interruptions; under Stalin, Karakalpakia was handed over to Uzbeks from the KZ.
So what? What significance does this have now, besides being pleasant to remember?
For the future - when you write this, keep in mind that here we also draw our conclusions. Eurasian integration is a voluntary and non-alternative business, if that.

[222222]

Nomad (2) KZ Today, 10:35 "And our direct ancestors - so in general throughout the steppe belt of Eurasia from the Danube to the Pacific Ocean in those days when there was not even a trace of the Moscow principality.!
.. don’t be angry with Yushchenko .. It’s time to know - WHO is the oldest ..

[dimdimich71]

I know! I know! Adam was Ukrainian ...

[koshh]

Well done! Everything is logical.

[shuhartred]

Quote: Nomad

For the future - when you write this, keep in mind that here we also draw our conclusions.

In-in, but you were led and answered. Do you think he needs your answer? Not once. He needs a reaction. She went and the troll can calmly go to sleep, the task is completed. The second option is just a woodpecker. What are you arguing with the woodpecker? Him, your argument is again up to the lantern. And to draw conclusions based on the scribble of one woodpecker is not worth it.

[koshh]

Quote: Nomad

So what? What significance does this have now, besides being pleasant to remember?

This is a clever phrase.

[their]

On the topic of the article (link below), carefully read the comments "best" and draw conclusions. The paid army of western lackeys has been working on the Tengri site for about two months, according to my observations. Nazi comments are in the top, pro-Russian ones are minified.

The KNB does nothing?

http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/redaktor-anyiz-adam-nazval-shumihu-vokrug-j


urnala-gitlere-rabotoy-rossiyskogo-254027 /

[romb]

Less need to deal with provocations, so they will not minus. I also read these comments. So, practically all indignant citizens, to elementary questions like: - "Have you personally read this article? Is your level of proficiency in the Kazakh language sufficient to pretend to be an expert capable of giving an unbiased assessment of the semantic content of the article?" - made it clear - no, I have not read it, but (unequivocally) I condemn.

[Kasym]

"Last year, 83 people were imprisoned for terrorism and extremism" - Vremya newspaper last Thursday - plump.

[nemec55]

Well damn freaks everywhere enough

[Nomad]

Quote: Ruswolf

And who knows from what derivative "Maidan"

Maidan is Turkism. In Kazakh language means front (military).

[Nomad]

Quote: 222222

.. don’t be angry with Yushchenko .. It’s time to know - WHO is the oldest ..

So we do not pretend!

[222222]

Nomad (2) KZ Today, 10:58 AM New
So we do not pretend! "...
. oh ce garne ...

[Stavros]

Until fig recently appeared Arabists, political scientists and other analysts. How to grow by leaps and bounds.

[made13]

Hitler needs to know - to meet at a meeting of 3,14. An article in a magazine is a provocation. A minor injection, but such publications cannot be left unpunished - at least condemned in absentia for inciting ethnic hatred. Put on the international wanted list. By any means, stop trying to organize mass propaganda. So that the barking of individual liberals does not turn into the howling of another Euro-Maidan.

[mig31]

Unfortunately, all countries have their own "swamp", so that the State Department toads do not grow, it is necessary to crush the tadpoles ...

[SHAKESPEARE]

Pravoseki sat on the BMP.

[MG42]

The peasant had hardly crushed if he had lied on the road, these freaks would not have stopped.

[mackonya]

I live in Almaty and I never remember this magazine on sale, it seems that no one reads it at all. And regarding the article, well, I think in every country there are such - "terry".

[Polarfox]

You probably do not go to the mail. It is distributed through the mail, forever in the post office, like a fool shag, immediately for half a year, or even more. Expensive printing, chic, brilliance, here people are not in a hurry to buy it, because - I feel sorry for the money.

[nnnnnn]

Hitler's birthday celebrators set fire to prosecutor's office in Chelyabinsk

Molotov cocktails were thrown around midnight on April 21 at the building of the prosecutor's office in Chelyabinsk.

According to the Chelyabinsk.ru Academy of Sciences, the crime could have been committed by representatives of informal groups that celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday in such an extremist way. Six Molotov cocktails were thrown into the building of the prosecutor's office. The neo-fascists also drew a swastika and left an inscription on the wall: “Burn the trash for Adolf.” Two cabinets burned out completely. Arriving firefighters defended the rest of the building from the fire.

The damage caused by the fire is now being established. It turns out what documents were burnt in two offices of the assistant prosecutors of the Kalinin district of Chelyabinsk. The issue of initiating a criminal case is being decided.

[nnnnnn]

We take an example from the Russian Federation
On April 3, 2014, the Izvestia newspaper published an article by Andronik Migranyan "Our Peredonovs"

The author in the article encourages readers to look at Hitler as a collector of German lands.
Andranik Movsesovich Migranyan is a Russian political scientist and vice president of the International Fund for Economic and Social Reforms. Member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Historical Sciences. Certificate of Honor of the President of the Russian Federation (December 12, 2008) - for his active participation in the preparation of the draft Constitution of the Russian Federation and his great contribution to the development of the democratic foundations of the Russian Federation
"It is necessary to distinguish between Hitler before 1939 and Hitler after 1939 and separate flies from cutlets. The fact is that while Hitler was collecting land, and if he would be famous only for the fact that without a single drop of blood united Germany and Austria, the Sudetenland with Germany, Memel with Germany, actually completing what Bismarck did not succeed in, and if Hitler had stopped at this, he would have remained a politician of the highest class in the history of his country. "

[nnnnnn]

100 great commanders of the Second World Book of the famous military historian Yu.N. Lubchenkova is dedicated to the one hundred great commanders of the Second World War. It begins with the biographies of Soviet commanders. This is the Supreme Commander I.V. Stalin, members of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command, commanders of the fronts, chief marshals of the armed forces, commanders of the fleets and armies. Significant attention is paid to the commanders of the USSR allies - the USA, Great Britain, and France. The military leaders of the enemy, the armed forces of Germany, Japan, Italy and satellite countries, are not forgotten, so this historian writes that Hitler is the GREAT SILVER

[midashko]

But the author seems to be right when he says: "If a politician like Hitler appears from nowhere (Yarosh, for example, the truth is too small), and the people under his leadership begin to carry out a national chauvinist idea, then the state will come to the state. And here Putin and Russia, Putin was re-elected several times, and his policy is far from chauvinism!

[nnnnnn]

A visual analysis of the cover demonstrates that the magazine is not at all engaged in the propaganda of fascism. Yes, on the first page of Hitler’s photo, but also next to the famous anti-fascist installation, showing the gap between the hands of the swastika. Above is the inscription "Disaster for humanity." There is one more explanation: “History of the Second World War”. On the last page there is a photo of Soviet soldiers hoisting a red banner over the Reichstag. As a symbol of Hitler’s collapse. Yes, the magazine contains children's photos of the Fuhrer. But they are also present in all historical films, books and publications. For example, in the famous film by M. Romm “Ordinary Fascism”. And the channel "Russia 24" the other day, the 125th anniversary of Hitler devoted a whole film-study. And who read what is written there in this magazine? there it is written in Kazakh. There are suspicions that the whole fuss broke out due to an article by Rasul Zhumaly, who drew historical and political analogies between Hitler and Putin.

[nnnnnn]

Quote: Rus_87

We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons (in any case, I understood that they were water cannons) But to the credit of our government, they quickly "extinguished" everything quietly, not allowing it to flare up, but apparently, "sparks "still remained ...

Dear comrade, remind the scene of the year, month, I don’t remember something, but if it were then all the media would ring about it. so pipet not bags carry the troll unhappy

[Rus_87]

Firstly, follow the language, a person without imagination (judging by the nickname), and secondly,
it was in the year 2007-2008, I don’t remember exactly, I remember exactly that all this mess was on December 16, then an event of some kind was in Lenger, a little girl was supposedly raped and killed, but that was just an excuse. Kamaz from Almaty sent, because Almaty numbers were. I was a student then, then we were all gathered, and they were strictly punished to sit at home, not to go out on the streets again, and especially not to gather in crowds. On the main square of the city, Al-Farabi, someone made a home-made poster, content like the Russians roll while they are safe, we do not need slaves here. The benefit did not hang long, the police immediately took it off, but conversations about this poster went around the city for a long time.
So, I advise all the gentlemen who do not believe, to hold on to the language, especially to those who are like Kazakhstan, who all know.

[romb]

Well, you also "inflated the elephant out of a fly." Why scatter loud words? The usual popular outrage, which was not even close to directed against the Russians, but was just another reminder to individual greyhounds of representatives of other peoples from among the citizens of our country that in Kazakhstan one needs to behave like a human being, and what will happen if you cross the line of what is permitted. Here's to you, from the fact that the Kazakhs put individual freaks in their place, has it really gotten worse? I think not. Here, on the contrary, I have to thank them for the fact that they showed (a kind of) an active civic position to curb possible lawlessness in the future. And the students, I am sure, were driven home obviously not on the basis of ethnicity.
Ah, again, these mystical posters - such posters that no one can not see, not photograph?

[Rus_87]

Yes, the usual popular indignation !!! If in your place where you live, "ordinary popular indignation" is the norm, then I sympathize with you! In our relatively quiet city, similar events happen once every 50 years, if not less often (the latter, if memory serves as it was sometime in the 60s or 70s of the 20th century, then we had a revolt against the police) and are extraordinary.

[romb]

OK, everything is clear. And where does the "Bandera" and the oppression of the Russians?

[Andrey KZ]

Quote: Rus_87

then an event was kind of in Lenger, a little girl seemed to be raped and killed, but that was just an excuse.

There were unrest against the Meskhetian Turks, and I fully support the Kazakhs here. They then all the village for their bastard. Got up, and the Kazakhs showed them where the crayfish hibernate. This kneading was not started by the Kazakhs, but in the end they suffered the most.

[Anuarkz]

I myself was from Shymkent in 2007, only Russians were not persecuted then, but they drove representatives of the Caucasian nations after a Kurd in a village near the town of Lenger raped a small child. It was fun time, all the hospitals were packed with khachi, and it was impossible to step up the cops in the city, and about 5 thousand people sent from Almaty to the city, and that the most interesting thing was not said about it in the media.

[Rus_87]

AnuarKz, you are right, there was nothing in the media, only a couple of issues of "Emergency Call" in the local Otrar. Kurds, Azeris, etc. then got you right, but there were Russophobic slogans too, personally the witness himself. It was then, as it were, a reason to rally the Kazakh population against other nations. People were really very angry with what happened, and on their just anger, then certain people wanted to benefit.

[Anuarkz]

Rus_87 no need to dramatize what the slogans were. There is always a percentage of people who have something wrong with their brains. I even remember on December 16 several people went to the square with anti-Russian posters, but their trouble immediately swaddled riot police and they disappeared about a miracle, but they disappeared still nothing is heard of them. Knowing our mentality, they could not just disappear, but we will not know about it anymore.

[Rus_87]

Yes, I don’t dramatize what was, was, but it was. I wrote in my first post as soon as I wanted to play a nationalist card in our south, right there our authorities and law enforcement bodies strangled everything in the bud, preventing big trouble from flaring up. Now everything is quiet, we live, work, enjoy the spring))

[Semurg]

Quote: Rus_87

AnuarKz, you are right, there was nothing in the media, only a couple of issues of "Emergency Call" in the local Otrar. Kurds, Azeris, etc. then got you right, but there were Russophobic slogans too, personally the witness himself. It was then, as it were, a reason to rally the Kazakh population against other nations. People were really very angry with what happened, and on their just anger, then certain people wanted to benefit.

To clarify the situation went to the Kurds and not all Kurds, but a certain family and cops. In general, it was so an 18-year-old Kurd raped a child-boy, he was closed, and his relatives collected the grandmother and bought him off. Then, when the relatives of the child found out about this and went to the Kurds to tell you that you were doing "su-ki", and there two or three uncles decided to show the toughness and began to shoot at people, well, in response, they went merry, and then the cops got to cover these local Kurds. They burned down three houses of this family, and other Kurds from their clan for collecting money for such a thing (paying off a pedophile), were offered to leave the village on good terms. As for the posters, you exaggerated a little, while there lived on Sputnik and radio old women would have reported everything if something had happened

[Semurg]

I will add a little earlier in the Kiyal-Alem park Chechens who arrived from Chechnya on a visit cut three guards, the next day the guys called up at the expense of this mess, local Chechens found out about this and quickly escorted the guests by punishing them themselves (from their words), and collected the money on treatment and moral damages and business amicably hushed up. I think that they chose the best option and did not bullish showing the steepness of the Caucasus Mountains.

[Rus_87]

What you are telling here is one side of the coin, criminal. And there was also political. Otherwise, why was it because of some Caucasians who came to visit, or couples of Kurds, as you say here, to draw additional forces from Almaty, approx. 5 thousand people to drive special equipment to disperse the demonstrations? You were not in our city then, you didn’t see everything, you don’t know, but you undertake to say something, it’s not good!

[Semurg]

Quote: Rus_87

What you are telling here is one side of the coin, criminal. And there was also political. Otherwise, why was it because of some Caucasians who came to visit, or couples of Kurds, as you say here, to draw additional forces from Almaty, approx. 5 thousand people to drive special equipment to disperse the demonstrations? You were not in our city then, you didn’t see everything, you don’t know, but you undertake to say something, it’s not good!

So they were frightened, the local Kazakhs defeated the police stronghold in the aul (for accepting bribes from the Kurds) and still threatened the head of the investigation and the police department who released the pedophile for the testicles to hang up, so they sent a cloud of cops (by the way, after the debriefing, to all local communal district cops gave wolf tickets and kicked out of the organs). And I live in the city of Shymkent and relatives live in that aul.

[Zymran]

But how is the situation now, are Kurds and Meskheti calm?

[Semurg]

Quote: Zymran

But how is the situation now, are Kurds and Meskheti calm?

Yes, they are calm, just that family of the shore lost from money. The only Kurdish drug dangers under the roof of the cops from the department to combat drugs. not all but some are very active in families.

[Zymran]

Well, you see, not Russians, but Kurds, not a couple of years ago, but in 2008. So because of the stupid woodpeckers, rumors spawn.

[romb]

That's because of the stupid woodpeckers and rumors are spawning.

Well, how can you not understand. This is what he wanted. The little man, speculating on this topic, received the coveted plus signs. Tried to fucking make a cheap You Won't Believe sensation.

[Andrey KZ]

Quote: AnuarKz

I am from Shymkent

Rus_87 A couple of years ago, we have in Shymkent

I am watching us from the 13 region more and more.

[Kasym]

Sorry, we’ve already figured it out here. I answered under Ruslan’s comment, and then everything was sorted out.

[Semurg]

Quote: Andrew KZ

Quote: AnuarKz

I am from Shymkent

Rus_87 A couple of years ago, we have in Shymkent

I am watching us from the 13 region more and more.

YES and I watch the whole team. Now we will begin to rinse for the southern movements .

[Zymran]

Better here than in Astana.
Joke

[Semurg]

Quote: Zymran

Better here than in Astana.
Joke

Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this we are a bit sensitive and do not like in Astana and further throughout

[Zymran]

Quote: Semurg

Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this, we are a bit sensitive and do not like us in Astana and then throughout laughing

Game: who on the old Opel will quickly fill all of Kazakhstan. No one knows the rules, but they play all the south. (with)

[Semurg]

Quote: Zymran

Quote: Semurg

Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this, we are a bit sensitive and do not like us in Astana and then throughout laughing

Game: who on the old Opel will quickly fill all of Kazakhstan. No one knows the rules, but they play all the south. (with)

it’s like friends come from Astana and Almaty and say they get behind the wheel and your Texans turn on the left turn signal and turn right right after seeing a voter on the side of the road . The truth must be admitted after the recent tightening of the rules of order a little more.

[Kasym]

Now even tougher. And cars with Chimken numbers in Alma-Ata are probably every tenth. .
In the south, the competition is tougher, the most numerous region is still "easy to rise". They decided to make Shymkent a MEGAPOLIS. Is there any progress and what is planned in this regard? And in general, what is the meaning of this word they put?

[Semurg]

I’m watching Atletico-Chelsea for 70 minutes while the crush is on. The game is boring until the first mistake that both of them are waiting for. In the metropolis, so far they have joined the territory from neighboring regions to Shymkent and are taking the city center to a new place. As I understand the meaning, they want to create in Kazakhstan several growth points along with Astana and Almaty and unload the overpopulated auls of the south (without creating regular shanyraks). It seems NAS said that 20% of the population will live in the village. I think that both small and single-industry towns need to be developed, otherwise the entire population will stupidly stretch into 8-10 cities and the rest of the land will be depopulated.

[Andrey KZ]

Quote: Semurg

I think that both small and single-industry towns need to be developed, otherwise the entire population will stupidly get stuck in 8-10 cities and the rest of the land will be depopulated.

At Easter I went for mushrooms in the direction of Arys. Turning to Badam I saw that hectares were being built up in greenhouses. Near one truck stood, obviously on loading. As I understand it, greenhouses are being built with the latest technology, drip irrigation, computer control, and seemingly solid structures.

[Rus_87]

Now I’ll probably grab the cons, they don’t like dissenters in Kazakhstan ...
Guys from Kazakhstan, let's dot all I. I understand that it’s unpleasant for you to realize that in our country there is still discrimination based on ethnicity, but nevertheless it exists, fortunately not as pronounced as in Ukraine or somewhere in Poland. You yourself are probably representatives of the indigenous population of our country, and it is difficult for you to notice all those movements that are already taking place in our society. There is no need to throw their hats here, and shout how everything is fine with us, etc. In the south, we have a lot of exactly nationalist-minded people, all this is not so clearly expressed, while the National Academy of Sciences is in power, they quietly sit and breathe in a rag, but at the first opportunity this will break out, mark my word. Yes, as long as it’s all at the level of domestic squabbles, a cat is not a cat, a squabble in the bazaar, you just have to quarrel with a Russian and a Kazakh, then the first one hears to you, you cat, go to your Russia. I agree there are enough idiots everywhere, and this same Zharylkap is a vivid confirmation of this. Nevertheless, you will probably understand me, in any country, such nationalistic statements by representatives of the indigenous population (even if not the most intelligent and numerous in their point of view) are perceived by representatives of other peoples extremely painfully and aggressively. Personally, I have often come across people like Zharylkap, from the latter, I can tell you a case in our regional diagnostic center. I was standing in line to see the doctor (I brought my mother to the appointment), in fact, everyone was sitting quietly in silence, talking peacefully. Then one such "zhalylap" comes up, and tries to skip the line, waving some kind of number, according to which he was supposedly assigned to Hour ago. Polite people (Kazakhs) explained to him that the line was lively and the numbers weren’t rolling here, and that it was necessary to take the turn of the line behind that woman (they point to my mother). To which he began to literally shout that he would not take anyone to turn the line, especially for that Russian (although in reality we are Tatars :)). He went up to his mother and already began to say to her in elevated tones that they say I’ll go to the doctor now, to my mother’s fair indignation, he replied that they say you are Russian, don’t arise here, I am Kazakh, this is my country, we are here in priority on our land, and you, if you want to pump rights, go to your home in Russia. At this point, my patience was overflowing (I always try not to pay attention to such misbehavors, but then I could not resist, especially when he openly began to insult my mother), in general I will not talk further, in short, until I threatened to bring him to justice for inciting interethnic enmity, "mambet" all tried to convince me what kind of people of "blue blood" they are, and we were like visiting a foreign land ... By the way, the hall was full of people, the overwhelming majority of whom were Kazakhs, and no one even had words did not say, they say, bro, what are you talking about here, calm down, etc ... It’s a shame, guys, it’s a shame to tears that there are more and more such junkies.
I hope we understand each other ...

[Andrey KZ]

Ruslan, it’s foolish to deny that cases like the one you described occasionally happen. But still, you must admit that they are not typical. Usually people who are not self-confident, who have not achieved anything in life, behave this way. Having humiliated their neighbor, they are trying to raise their status. Having received a rebuff from the entire lineup, he tried to save his face, but you also rebuffed him. It all depends on us, if we put in place such presumptuous villains, then they will think ten times, and whether it is worth running into.

[Semurg]

What Andrey did you correctly answer Ruslan. The only thing I want to add to Ruslana and in the course of the konrata do not write if you can name Mambet in a derogatory form. This is an abbreviated name from Makhambet (like Alyosha and Aleksey) and this name is very respected among the Kazakhs and it is also a transcription in the Kazakh name Muhhamed, which is also respected by all Muslims. Of course, you can say that the Kazakhs themselves say what I’ll answer, it is said by Russian-speaking Kazakhs who differ from Russians only in skin color and eye shape.

[Rus_87]

Thank you Semurg for enlightening about the "mambet". It seemed to me (yes, I think to very many people) that the meaning of the word "mambet" is an illiterate, uncivilized person

[Kazbek]

Quote: Semurg

This is an abbreviated name from Makhambet (like Alyosha and Aleksey) and this name is very respected among the Kazakhs

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Quote: Rus_87

It seemed to me (yes, I think to very many people) that the meaning of the word "mambet" is an illiterate, uncivilized person

Duc "Not all poets of Makhambet"
I read about such a saying ...

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Rus_87

although in fact we are Tatars :))

The funny thing is, for me, this is that "many" Russians of Tatarstan believe that they are "oppressed" by the Tatars

Quote: Rus_87

Immediately the first will hear in his address, you aoris, come on come to your Russia.

Nah did not try to send?
The Russians themselves are largely to blame. Somehow they immediately get lost and turn on the "back". And the "zarlikapy" feel it and accordingly.
If only they knew that there would be a "Russian response" from the Russians. I don't think they would have spoken like that once again ..

[Conrat83]

The editor is just an ordinary mambich.

[Semurg]

Quote: Conrat83

The editor is just an ordinary mambich.

Eh konyrat, the konyrat would take another nickname, otherwise the Kazakhs reading your posts will start to think that the konyrats are your relatives, although smart Kazakhs will understand that the real Konyrat will not be signed by anybody konrat (what is your name Vasya or Kolya?)

[Kazbek]

Quote: Semurg

the real Konyrat will not be signed by anyone konrat (what is your name Vasya or Kolya?)

Likely Kondrat

Quote: Klim

Why Kazakhs do not move from Russia

Duc Marek Rozny, who Karauyl just migrated from Russia ?!

[Anuarkz]

Quote: Horst78

The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

Do not spread the myths heard it is not clear where in the 90s they left not because the Kazakhs drove someone, but because of the frankly lousy standard of living. For reference, the Russians were driven from Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. Even now in Kazakhstan, out of 17 million people, 5 million are Russians, Ukrainians and Germans with Tatars.

[Elephant79]

Just moral!

[Ace in the sleeve]

Quote: Lyubimov

Rallying Russians around their leader, inspiring them with a national idea - is it dangerous for someone?

It seems like the question is what is the national idea. If the return to the borders of the USSR, or the return to Russia of territories with a Russian-speaking population from the former republics of the USSR, then they are dangerous for these countries. And if calls for the return of territories, for example, of Northern Kazakhstan, are heard more often in the Russian press or on the Internet, then such anti-Russian articles will also appear more often. In other words, there is no need to create grounds for such articles, because many perceive "the rallying of Russians" as a threat to their countries.

[Polarfox]

Quote: Ace in the sleeve

If you return to the borders of the USSR, or return to Russia the territories with the Russian-speaking population from the former republics of the USSR, then they are dangerous for these countries.

In my opinion, Putin has clearly dotted the e-mine in his "straight line". He then bluntly said that there were no claims to the existing borders.

[Zymran]

In the Kazakh magazine Zhuldyzdar Otbasy - Anyz Adam (Star House - The Legend Man), a large amount of material was published by the well-known in Kazakhstan arabologist and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly on Hitler. According to Ekho Moskvy radio, the reason why the Russian Foreign Ministry noticed the publication about Hitler was comparing Putin with Hitler. Like it or not (I cannot know what motivated the Ministry of Foreign Affairs), however, I consider the protest of diplomats quite fair. For, as follows from the translation of the article “Hitler is not a Fascist” into Russian, the author clearly justified the actions of Adolf Hitler, and called the sentences of his book Mein Kampf fair and correct.

Even in this quote, the journalists turned everything upside down. The article “Hitler is not a fascist” was written not by Rasul Zhumaly, but by civil activist Nagashybai Esmyrza.

[Polarfox]

Right. Rasul Zhumaly only compared Putin to Hitler, fearing the Russian expansion he himself invented.

[Klim]

Well, why don’t Kazakhs move from Russia, because they wouldn’t exchange their Russia for anything. These are their words, not mine.

[marshes]

Quote: Klim

Well, why don’t Kazakhs move from Russia, because they wouldn’t exchange their Russia for anything. These are their words, not mine.

Because they live on their historical lands, why should they move and send matchmakers to Kazakhstan, looking after girls from large families.
Mostly the descendants of those who migrated from famine to China, Mongolia, Iran, etc. are moving.

[Kasym]

Klim, there are quite a few places in Russia that Kazakhs of the Junior Zhuz consider their ancestral ones. So they are at home. A friend of mine (Alma-Ata) every summer during the holidays went to the Novosibirsk region for at least a month - there are the ancestral lands of his family. Therefore, nothing surprising. Kazakhs are among the ten largest peoples in Russia, this is a note.
Also, Kazakh Cossacks consider Kazakhstan their homeland. This is normal, this is our story. The more intertwined our peoples and our economies are, the stronger the friendship between peoples will be.

[Arkan]

famous Arabic scholar and nationalist in Kazakhstan Rasul Zhumaly

Keshkentai, victim of a drunken midwife.

[Fedor70]

The Kazakh magazine opens further the Overton Window on Hitler and tries to legalize Nazism.
This is clearly written about here.
http://zuhel.livejournal.com/465630.html