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Hello from Hitler, or Patriots paid in cash



In the Kazakh magazine Zhuldyzdar Otbasy - Anyz Adam (Star House - The Legend Man), a large amount of material was published by the well-known in Kazakhstan arabologist and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly on Hitler. According to Ekho Moskvy radio, the reason why the Russian Foreign Ministry noticed the publication about Hitler was comparing Putin with Hitler. Like it or not (I cannot know what motivated the Ministry of Foreign Affairs), however, I consider the protest of diplomats quite fair. For, as follows from the translation of the article “Hitler is not a Fascist” into Russian, the author clearly justified the actions of Adolf Hitler, and called the sentences of his book Mein Kampf fair and correct.

It must be said that in Kazakhstan itself, the publication caused a mixed reaction. Zharylkap Kalybai, editor of the journal Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Aniz adam, stated that “Hitler’s choice as the hero of the issue was caused by two reasons. We want to show that if at the head of a state a person similar to Adolf Hitler accidentally appears from where, then the people who follow him will fall into the trap. The second reason is “to protect us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of a neighboring country, the Russian empire, reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea again.”

How even? Rallying Russians around their leader, inspiring a national idea - dangerous for someone? Do they have all the hallmarks of a "Nazi-chauvinist idea"? Congratulations, Kalybai-Murza, you are overwhelmed. For you, the domestic policy of Russia does not concern you at all, and nobody asked your assessment of its national idea. It would be better to continue to revive their traditions, our dear ultrapatriot.

Meanwhile, events in Kazakhstan are taking place according to a completely expected scenario: according to the Kazakhstani Internet resource Tengri-News, veterans of Afghanistan, zheltoksanovtsy and a number of other public organizations subjected the journal with an article about Hitler to public anathema and burned them. After studying the article, the Communications and Information Agency of Kazakhstan revealed violations of the legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan: “The contents of the journal have signs of violation of the Constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan regarding incitement of social, national, clan, racial or religious hatred (Article 164 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). The Agency is taking comprehensive measures on this fact. "

It must be said that the magazine, which has thousands of copies of 25 in Kazakhstan, puts Adolf Hitler’s person on a par with such personalities as commander Alexander the Great, enlightener Ibrai Altynsarin and Napoleon, articles about which have already been published in other issues “Zhuldyzdar otasy - Aniz adam ".

By the way, the article 164 of the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan, incriminated by Zharylkap Kalybay, provides for a very wide range of penalties, from a fine of one minimum calculated figure (less than one hundred dollars) to imprisonment for a period of twelve years. I believe that the newly appeared fighter for the independence of Kazakhstan (which no one actually attempted to do) will receive minimal punishment, because even hooliganism on board the aircraft of the Scat Airlines, where he made a brawl due to the fact that the flight attendant did not talk to him in Kazakh, it cost him three days of administrative arrest.

But, as they say, wait and see. In the meantime, it seems to me a very simple thing: all these "ultra-democratic" messages addressed to Vladimir Putin are no more than the efforts of the benefactors lured by overseas benefactors. And the price for such “revelations” would be worthless if it were not for recurrent relapses and “exposures” that arise. While the Washington White House is searching for non-existent Putin capital, the minions of the star-striped democracy diligently work out what they have received. And how else, then? After all, you will work badly - they won't give you more. Is there any more pleasant music in the world than the rustling of dollar bills?
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  1. Keeper
    Keeper April 22 2014 09: 37
    +9
    Yes, people on the planet shredded!
    Silverfish were patriots at one time, and now ?!
    Deeper drops - empty looks, one-day desires, lack of Faith in God!
    1. CALL.
      CALL. April 22 2014 09: 51
      +22
      Quote: Keeper
      Hello from Hitler, or Patriots paid in cash


      1. svp67
        svp67 April 22 2014 10: 01
        +11
        This "bastard" - Kolomoisky, has already announced that EIGHT awards have been paid for the "Russian special forces", according to unconfirmed data, these are just eight citizens of Russia who, by the will of fate, found themselves in those places and expressed their own, so you understand, a different opinion from Kolomoisky ... in this situation, the question is more interesting - what is our Foreign Ministry, is it taking any steps to verify this information? After all, "there is no smoke without fire," and if the citizens of Russia are indeed ILLEGALLY kidnapped and RETAINED, then at least it is time to demand an answer from the "new Vlada" and, moreover, they need to be RELEASED ... And if this does not happen, then than this is not a "casus bell" ...
        1. I do not care
          I do not care April 22 2014 10: 12
          +28
          In the near future
        2. Predator
          Predator April 22 2014 13: 18
          +3
          Tired of it! It’s probably time to start tanks, clean off the oil from shells and fill stores, hang ammunition on planes!
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        4. siberalt
          siberalt April 22 2014 13: 46
          +9
          Why don't you know the Ukrainians? Kolomoisky will be dragged so many "special forces" and "saboteurs" that he will not have enough hryvnia. laughing
      2. armageddon
        armageddon April 22 2014 10: 05
        +3
        US loot pops up again
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 22 2014 10: 18
          +7
          Quote: Armagedon
          US loot pops up again

          G. doesn’t drown.
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 April 22 2014 11: 08
            +15
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/943/nkge572.jpg
          2. Predator
            Predator April 22 2014 13: 23
            +1
            Drown anyway! And those who gave and those who took! wassat
          3. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov April 22 2014 13: 26
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            G. doesn’t drown.

            Are you lighting a chtoli from him? wink
          4. Semurg
            Semurg April 22 2014 13: 29
            +2
            Here is a photo of this magazine. The name of the magazine translates as "legendary or historical figure", this magazine prints such materials about historical figures and whatever one may say, Hitler is such. The only minus was the time the article was published on the eve of Victory, but what can you do, he was born and died the same in these numbers. This magazine has already published materials about many historical figures (Napaleon, Nero, Stalin, Goloshekin, etc.), from their childhood to their death, all their deeds, both good and bad, can be traced. For example, on the cover next to the photo of Hitler it is written "The Second World War - the tragedy of mankind" and there is an article under this heading. 2 pages long article research "Most of the German nation fell victim to the ideologues of fascism." The next article "Hitler considered the Aryans of the ancient ancestors of the Germanic tribes to be the most pure-blooded nation", many more articles in which scholarly historians describe the deeds of Hitler, as well as information concerning childhood and other periods of life and information from his personal life. All this was written for our Kazakh users and Russians from Russia who do not know Kazakh, but write according to the principle "I have not read, but I condemn". And the main whirlwind arose because of one article where Hitler's method of annexing the Sudetenland resembles Putin's today's actions to annex Crimea. I understand that you will still condemn the magazine and my post, but still at least you will write more correctly. It was not the Kazakhs who became fascists-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler wink .
            1. Tersky
              Tersky April 22 2014 13: 47
              +9
              Quote: Semurg
              Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

              And where is it in the afternoon? -
              The editor of Zhuldyzdar Obybasy - Aniz Adam magazine Zharylkap Kalybai stated that “Hitler's choice as the hero of the issue was caused by two reasons. We want to show that if at the head of the state it is not known where a man similar to Adolf Hitler appears from, then the people who follow him will fall into the trap. The second reason is “to save us from the dangerous policies of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, which is reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea again».
              I don’t know how the Kazakhs are in general, but the representative of the RK mass media spoke out so clearly and so categorically and targetedly that it sweeps away all your attorney's arguments about the comparison, good and bad ..
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              2. Semurg
                Semurg April 22 2014 14: 00
                -1
                and Zharylkap says that the methods of Hitler and Putin to collect the Russian and German world are very similar. Representatives of the RK mass media spoke out differently in the mass of Russian-condemned, the Kazakh-speaking supported. The discussion will not end until the Russian speakers can read the translation, because they do not understand Kazakh and are judged.
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky April 22 2014 14: 42
                  +6
                  Quote: Semurg
                  The discussion will not end until the Russian speakers can not read the translation, because they do not understand Kazakh and are judged.

                  You are again trying to let the fog onto a very specific summary of the article by Zharylkap Kalybay - “Protect us from the dangerous policies of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, reviving Nazi chauvinist idea again. ", sound it at least in the language of the Bedouins, this anti-Russian nonsense will not change the meaning.
                  1. Semurg
                    Semurg April 22 2014 14: 55
                    +5
                    The discussion in the media of the Republic of Kazakhstan will not end about the content of articles in the journal. And the quoted lines are Zharkylkap’s personal opinion and it’s quite clear and there is no fog, he doesn’t want any alliance with today's Russia. You can brand him for it.
                    1. koshh
                      koshh April 22 2014 16: 48
                      0
                      Quote: Semurg
                      to save us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea anew "., about


                      And tell Semurg. is the translation correct or not in the quote above? You also think that Russia is reviving the Nazi-chauvinistic idea (only whose?), If you defend the author. And could you justify it.
                      1. Semurg
                        Semurg April 22 2014 19: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: koshh


                        And tell Semurg. is the translation correct or not in the quote above? You also think that Russia is reviving the Nazi-chauvinistic idea (only whose?), If you defend the author. And could you justify it.

                        Actually, the author of these lines does not need protection, he expressed his thoughts. In my posts I wrote about some of the content of this magazine, so that people would have an idea of ​​what it was about. And all the cheese boron came from one statement in an article in this magazine about the similarity of the methods of GDP and Putin, on their way of collecting land. Now explain what to justify you, if according to the author's quote, then there is nothing to justify everything is very clearly written. If, according to my position about today's Russia, after Crimea, the view changes with the Russian Federation, a fighter against universal evil, the Russian Federation adopts methods of fighting evil from evil (for me, evil cannot be defeated by methods, no matter how it is justified by "protecting compatriots, collecting lands, restoring historical justice, etc., for reasons you can think of a wagon and a small cart)
                2. Polarfox
                  Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 03
                  +2
                  Please answer, dear, does the agency for information and mass media of the Republic of Kazakhstan also not understand?
            2. Polarfox
              Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 01
              +2
              And nobody called the Kazakhs fascists. But, nevertheless, there is a note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation to the government of Kazakhstan regarding this article. And there is the conclusion of the Kazakhstani communications and media agency, recognizing that “The content of the journal’s issue has signs of violation of the constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan regarding incitement to social, national, tribal, racial or religious hatred (article 164 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). The Agency is taking comprehensive measures on this fact. ” Or does it, the agency, also do not understand Kazakh?
              1. Semurg
                Semurg April 22 2014 19: 22
                +2
                The Russian Foreign Ministry sent a note of protest, our agency is checking and if they find these signs and prove in court the magazine will be punished. They understand whether they understand Kazakh or not, I think they understand, but there is one thing, but the political aspect will prevail over this matter and if the agency does not prove 100% of calls for social hostility and so on and enmity and sells this business with the help of the admin resource, this will lead to further radicalization of our views in the Republic of Kazakhstan. If they find and prove 100% this and this paragraph calls for enmity, then the Kazakhs will accept it, and if they are pulled over to calm the Russian-speaking people (who have not read, but condemn), then this is another step towards radicalizing views (when if you beat for a cause, you take it when you beat for anything or for the sake of someone, then there is bitterness). It seems that he painted everything in detail?
            3. Ulus5
              Ulus5 April 22 2014 17: 07
              +1
              Quote: Semurg
              Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

              Before comparing incomparable things, one would need to know the 23-year history of Crimea as part of Ukraine. Putin has nothing to do with it, except that he acted as a man and fulfilled all the aspirations of the Crimeans, and the whole Russian people, by joining Crimea to Russia.
              And those who draw the line of identification of the Crimea with the Sudetenland don't know much about history, but they act at the direction of illiterate unfortunate historians from the Phasington regional committee. That's where the Nazis really settled in, so it’s in the White House.
              1. Semurg
                Semurg April 22 2014 19: 30
                +3
                Quote: Ulus5
                Quote: Semurg
                Not the Kazakhs became Nazi-Nazis, but the Kazakhs dared to compare good Putin with bad Hitler

                Before comparing incomparable things, one would need to know the 23-year history of Crimea as part of Ukraine. Putin has nothing to do with it, except that he acted as a man and fulfilled all the aspirations of the Crimeans, and the whole Russian people, by joining Crimea to Russia.
                And those who draw the line of identification of the Crimea with the Sudetenland don't know much about history, but they act at the direction of illiterate unfortunate historians from the Phasington regional committee. That's where the Nazis really settled in, so it’s in the White House.

                From the point of view of Russians, I’m familiarized with all the channels of the Russian television and radio and with posts on the internet, I don’t need to explain this personally, unless you need to constantly say and repeat it yourself, like a prayer.
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      4. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 22 2014 13: 09
        +2
        Die for Benya!

        How will you look at this cream of society (cream in the singular - "cream" right?) ... Proud profile, firm step ...! (This is not about him!)
        I’d like to give my life! Well, I don’t understand my own ... Tarutas, for example, Dobkin, Kernes, can’t do this ...
        Good guys! I would hate banderlogs less if they showed the world at least one, even a negative character in which you could feel the power, charisma, fire of action ... well, at least something!
        And so, looking at their panopticon of deceased and now surviving heroes, you just want to spew out vomit from yourself!
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder April 22 2014 15: 01
      +2
      all these "ultra-democratic" messages to Vladimir Putin are nothing more than the efforts of grant-minders fed by overseas benefactors.

      That says it all
  2. Name
    Name April 22 2014 09: 39
    +13
    Zharylkap Kalybai, who stated that: "... if the head of state from nowhere(they don’t know! winked ) by chance a person similar to Adolf Hitler appears, then the people who follow him will fall into a trap. The second reason is "to protect us from the dangerous policy of the ruler of the neighboring country - the Russian Empire, who is reviving the Nazi-chauvinist idea anew"just bears a complete NORSE IN HOPE TO ATTENTION KAZAKHOMAIDANUTY with the support of Amer.
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 22 2014 11: 31
      +3
      Quote: name
      Zharylkap Kalybai, who stated that: "... if the head of state does not know where


      Unknown to whom? We all know how ... and Zharylkap Kalibay was born yesterday ...
  3. serzhserzh86
    serzhserzh86 April 22 2014 09: 40
    +5
    I have no words...
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 22 2014 11: 33
      0
      some drooling ....
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  4. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 22 2014 09: 40
    +2
    It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ... Nazism is evil! People quickly forget the horrors of war, unfortunately ... The Nazis in Ukraine are a prime example ... I wonder HOW Ukrainians will celebrate May 9 in the light of the policies of their government? Although, the opinion of the magazine, of course, is the matter of the magazine itself, but in the same Germany, I think such a magazine would be closed ...
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 22 2014 09: 48
      +7
      Quote: Roman1970
      It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...


      Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 22 2014 10: 02
        +6
        Quote: mamont5
        Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

        I agree! hi
        Here you have a short cartoon on the topic of 28 Panfilov’s, there is a phrase in the credits saying that every 5 Kazakhstani stood up in arms to defend the Homeland from Nazi aggression!
        1. Des10
          Des10 April 22 2014 10: 48
          +6
          Thanks to the Kazakhs for memory.
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      2. Canep
        Canep April 22 2014 10: 12
        +8
        Quote: mamont5
        Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.
        In general, you need to pay attention to such publications, and the prosecutor's office should pay attention. Sathya in Tengrinews:
        The Communications and Information Agency of Kazakhstan has commented on the release of the Aniz Adam magazine with Hitler on the cover, Tengrinews.kz reports. The editor-in-chief of the publication is Zharylkap Kalybai, who was previously implicated in a scandal on board the plane of the SCAT airline, we recall that he insulted the stewardess for not answering him in the state language.

        "Upon the release of the April issue of the magazine" Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Akyz adam ", the Agency for Communications and Information of the Republic of Kazakhstan informs the following: the content of the issue of the magazine has signs of violation of the Constitution and legislation of the Republic of Kazakhstan in terms of inciting social, national, tribal, racial or religious hatred (Article 164 Of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan) ", - indicated in the press service of the department.

        "The agency is taking exhaustive measures on this fact," it says. According to the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan, the maximum term for this crime is up to 12 years in prison. At the same time, the first part of Article 164 may be applied to Kalybai, then he will be punished with a fine of up to 1000 MCI or a prison term of up to 7 years.

        Let us remind you that the issue of the magazine "Aniz Adam" in Kazakh language was published, which was completely dedicated to the 125th anniversary of Adolf Hitler. In publications, the authors describe him as a great, strong personality, claiming that he fought for the rights of his people. The author of one of the articles compares Vladimir Putin to Hitler, noting that the President of Russia by his actions can hardly lead to such consequences.

        More details: http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/12-let-tyurmyi-grozit-izdatelyu-jurnala-any

        iz-adam-razjiganie-natsionalnoy-253879 /
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to Tengrinews.kz
        1. Lyubimov
          Lyubimov April 22 2014 10: 38
          +6
          Well, a lot of the prosecutor's office of Russia paid attention to the statements of Novodvorskie, Shenderovich, etc. etc. !?
      3. Tor hummer
        Tor hummer April 22 2014 11: 57
        -11%
        Quote: mamont5
        Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.

        And it doesn't matter - "all or not all". In Ukraine, too, not all Russophobes, but the whole country dances to the tune of the latter.
        And in Kazakhstan it will be the same, only worse. Discrimination of Russians there takes place throughout, over the past 20-30 years, and this process will only increase.
        Soon we will have to introduce polite people to northern Kazakhstan and hold a referendum there on the reunification of Russian lands.
        1. hommer
          hommer April 22 2014 13: 33
          +5
          Looked at your account.
          Registered on the site in February this year.
          No place of residence indicated.
          The first flag is Moldavian, then Romanian.
          Then without a flag and now, miraculously - Russian.
          Comments like pro-Russian, but if you think about it ...
          The provocateur-guest performer? The shale?
      4. goose
        goose April 22 2014 12: 58
        +1
        Some scum do not express their opinion, if they do not see support in the immediate environment, something like this. There is no smoke without fire.
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      6. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 22 2014 13: 05
        0
        and the opinions of individual garbage should not be paid attention.
        Worth it. Very worth it. Litigation for the protection of honor and dignity, insulting the memory of veterans and so on. Moreover, monetize these claims to the maximum and bring to the payment of victims. If anything, then even forcibly through the bailiffs.
        If he knows that this will blather and he will eat the leftovers in the garbage for the rest of his life, he will very much think about what to say out loud.
      7. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder April 22 2014 15: 10
        +1
        Quote: mamont5

        mamont5


        Today, 09: 48

        ↑ ↓


        Quote: Roman1970 It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ... Actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.


        When the Arabs say, I immediately remember the film Kingdom, they are so-so. sold their brothers (Muslims) in collaboration with the Americans, several times were against Egypt, Iraq and Syria in the Arab-Israeli wars, although for every slave a Jew is an enemy (not me smile I'm not an anti-Semite), and now supplies militants against Assad, also defenders of Islam to me. I will not be surprised if they supply this Rasul, the task of the Arabs is not to bring Islam or, as they say, "pure faith" to Central Asia, but to split the former Union countries, they have been doing this since the Afghan war. Ultrapatriots are simply black footers. if they do not see the baaaaalsh geopolitics, and if they see and consciously split society, then you know how to call them.
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 April 22 2014 09: 56
      -6
      Quote: Roman1970
      People quickly forget the horrors of war

      So she did not reach them. Where are the places of German bombing in Kazakhstan?
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 April 22 2014 11: 06
        +10
        The bombing in the hearts of people who fought and there were many Kazakhs in the war, and such great as Aliya Moldagulova Manshuk Mametova, etc. and if you bring here also the Russian-speaking, this will be a whole army of veterans of the Great Patriotic War heroes so that they do not need to see the bombing they took Berlin.
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 April 22 2014 11: 30
          +1
          Quote: nemec55
          The bombing in the hearts of the people who fought and there were many Kazakhs in the war

          I completely agree with this. hi
    3. Corsair
      Corsair April 22 2014 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: Roman1970
      It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

      Well, our Foreign Ministry has reacted, but what about the reaction of OFFICIAL Kazakhstan?
      1. Yerlan
        Yerlan April 22 2014 10: 58
        +15
        The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan called the publication of the magazine dedicated to Hitler inadequate and unacceptable.
        "We consider the publication of this magazine, dedicated to one of the bloodiest villains in the history of mankind, to be absolutely inadequate and unacceptable. It is an insult to the feelings and memory of millions of people, especially veterans of the Great Patriotic War, who valiantly fought against fascism, defended their homeland from the monstrous Nazi machine and died in the fields. war, "- said in a widespread commentary of the Kazakh Foreign Ministry.
        And here's another:
        The prosecutor's office has begun a pre-investigation check on the release of the magazine "Zhuldyzdar otbasy - Akiz Adam" dedicated to Hitler, the press service of the General Prosecutor's Office of the Republic of Kazakhstan said.
        Read more: http://news.nur.kz/310845.html

        I really hope that there will be an indicative flogging of these morons. In another way, apparently they do not understand, they completely blasted off permissiveness.
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 April 22 2014 11: 04
          +2
          Quote: Yerlan
          I really hope that there will be an indicative flogging of these morons. In another way, apparently they do not understand, they completely blasted off permissiveness.

          good good
        2. Polarfox
          Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 14
          0
          From the heart, plus. Thanks for the competent comment.
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      3. siberalt
        siberalt April 22 2014 13: 54
        +4
        And what, in Russia there are few de-Stalinists comparing Stalin with Hitler, and the USSR with fascist Germany?

        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/076/autm875.jpg
    4. Lyubimov
      Lyubimov April 22 2014 10: 37
      +6
      Quote: Roman1970
      It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...


      Not Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler, but several well-paid idiots. It is not necessary, on the opinion of several idiots, to draw conclusions about the whole state.
      And after all, after listening to Zyuganov, we can say that Russia is only engaged in the promotion of communism smile
      1. Little Muck
        Little Muck April 22 2014 11: 03
        0
        Quote: Lyubimov
        Not Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler, but several well-paid idiots.

        So take this idiot and talk with addiction.
        Immediately everything will climb (appearances, flogged, addresses, names). And then publish the confession online.
        You look and scribble madmen diminish.
    5. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 10
      0
      Do not generalize, please. It is not Kazakhstan that popularizes Hitler, but a specific person with nationalist views and a scandalous reputation. I don’t know about the South of Kazakhstan, and the northerners have nothing against Russia. Take, for example, Ermek Taychibayev, who announced on Facebook a reward for the head of a Maidan rogue in opposition to Privat Bank with its bandit owner. True, the "democratic" Facebook was quickly removed by Yermekov, saying that it was unacceptable. Well, yes, Taichibaev is not Kolomoitsev, he is not!
  5. Alexey N
    Alexey N April 22 2014 09: 40
    +4
    I don't like Putin. More precisely, I do not like the outcome of his fourteen-year reign. But comparing him with Hitler is the height of stupidity, ignorance and toothless hatred. to Russia
  6. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian April 22 2014 09: 41
    +3
    National Liberal local spill ... do not pay attention to it, BUT punish in all severity, so that others are not accustomed.
    1. Name
      Name April 22 2014 10: 25
      +2
      Quote: Scandinavian
      don't pay attention to him

      I do not agree with this phrase hi , it’s worth paying attention to, or you’ll have to switch your attention to Kazakhstan from Ukraine ... dd.o.t.o. to a dime a dozen ... and Kazakhstan is no exception.
  7. esmiralda
    esmiralda April 22 2014 09: 41
    +5
    Provocator
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      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 22 2014 14: 07
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Close the magazine, and the editor with the journalist in jail. And then the position of Astana will be clear.

        Yes, and revive Karlag? and there is a place for you to leave here is just a question of who is a prisoner or escort?
    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 22 2014 14: 00
      +1
      Close the magazine, and the editor with the journalist in jail. And then the position of Astana will be clear.
  8. their
    their April 22 2014 09: 41
    +1
    The most interesting thing is that a week before the release of this issue of the magazine, the famous Israeli politician Ehud Barak came to Alma-Ata to the media forum as an expert. And in general, he began to visit Kazakhstan often, fortunately in Kazakhstan there is no such a strong Jewish community and oligarchs as in Ukraine, you have to come and shine openly.

    Of course, I can be mistaken about Barak, but knowing that his military junta is creating in Syria, Palestine, Ukraine, it is quite logical to link these events.
  9. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 22 2014 09: 43
    +6
    A lousy bird sings for the grains.
    A sure sign that the GDP is doing everything right, otherwise the West would praise and reward.
  10. Bi_Murza
    Bi_Murza April 22 2014 09: 45
    +12
    I put a plus to the article. I correctly noticed the chapter, the magazine’s editor and the author who justifies Hitler.
  11. Stepnyak
    Stepnyak April 22 2014 09: 46
    +10
    that's how we feel about them
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlefFTzoAk
    1. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 20
      0
      Here is the plot:

  12. raven75
    raven75 April 22 2014 09: 47
    +2
    In how. Western licking in Kazakhstan appeared. Although, what is there to be surprised, even if we have them in Russia. I hope that Kazakhs themselves will stifle this moron (which they do, judging by the article).
  13. andko5
    andko5 April 22 2014 09: 47
    -4
    Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 April 22 2014 10: 00
      -1
      Quote: andko5
      Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals.
      + south of Siberia. Here they are such "patriots" and are cracking that even there "little green men" will appear.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 April 22 2014 10: 32
        +2
        The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.
        1. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer April 22 2014 12: 24
          -7
          Quote: Horst78
          The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

          Kazakhs and Bolsheviks minus you.
        2. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder April 22 2014 22: 28
          +1
          Quote: Horst78

          Horst78
          (1)

          Today, 10: 32

          ↑ ↓


          The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.


          How much has left Chechnya? how many died there?

           Horst78 (1)  Today, 10:00 ↑

          Quote: andko5
          Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals.
          + south of Siberia. Here they are such "patriots" and are cracking that even there "little green men" will appear.


          Nobody is shaking, I’m sure, about the territory, read the story about the Saks, the lands of Dasht-i Kipchak, the Golden Horde, then the Kazakh Khanate, what? do not read?
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder April 22 2014 22: 35
      +2
      Quote: andko5

      andko5


      Today, 09: 47




      Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...


      You scratch as if you personally gave it away, so let me try: "Your great-grandfather owed my half of my kingdom a long time ago, so when will you give it back?"
  14. their
    their April 22 2014 09: 48
    +11
    In Kazakhstan, a similar scenario will be played by the Zionists, as in Ukraine in the coming 2 years. First, they will pit the Russian people with the Kazakh people through crime, through paid Natsik they will cultivate Russophobia among the Kazakhs. Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

    Kazakhstanis do not sit back, you need to put in place the Nazi bastards and destroy in the bud their attempts to embroil the Russians and Kazakhs.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 22 2014 10: 02
      +5
      Last time, Kazakhstan has been alarming, I agree with you, Kazakhstanis, be on the alert, this hydra is imperceptibly creeping ...
    2. sledge
      sledge April 22 2014 10: 04
      +4
      As an option, it is quite possible. The obvious failure of the PEDE and the EU and Ukraine in Ukraine is increasingly suggesting - who is next? Or who is the first in line Kazakhstan or Belarus?
      1. KOH
        KOH April 22 2014 10: 10
        +1
        Belarus is unlikely, but Kyrgyzstan ...
        1. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer April 22 2014 12: 25
          0
          Quote: CON
          Belarus is unlikely, but Kyrgyzstan ...

          Belarus is just not "vryatli", but Kyrgyzstan is generally indifferent to what will be there - if only fewer migrants to Russia were sent from there.
    3. Tron
      Tron April 22 2014 10: 43
      -7
      Quote: sus
      Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

      Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 April 22 2014 11: 08
        -3
        Quote: TroN
        Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

        That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind? hi
        1. Semurg
          Semurg April 22 2014 12: 51
          +8
          Quote: sergey72
          Quote: TroN
          Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

          That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind? hi

          one user fabricated a linden by signing Kazakhs instead of the Mongols, the other is ready to spread it longer, well done keep the seekers of straws in the eyes of others.
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        3. Humpty
          Humpty April 22 2014 14: 29
          +4
          Quote: sergey72
          Quote: TroN
          Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception

          That's just the opposite, it was recently approved here on the resource ... Dear Nikolai, will I take the photo to my collection?)) Do you mind? hi


          This .. wound should be preserved in case you want to be considered a layman. I confirm that the photo is not Kazakhs.
          You can sign anything. The author of the words under the photo-loshara and stupid provocateur.
      2. Zymran
        Zymran April 22 2014 11: 29
        +6
        These are the Mongols, actually.
        1. Tron
          Tron April 22 2014 11: 56
          0
          Quote: Zymran
          These are the Mongols, actually.

          The point is not whether they are Kazakhs, Mongols or Russians. As they say, "the family is not without ...". Simply, when nationalism in its most extreme manifestations begins to be justified, expect trouble. And I really don't want the CIS countries to become the arena of the events that are happening now in Ukraine.
          1. Zymran
            Zymran April 22 2014 12: 01
            +3
            Quote: TroN
            Yes, the point is not that it is Kazakhs, Mongols or Russians


            The point is that these are not Kazakhs, but Mongols.

            Quote: TroN
            Just when nationalism in its most extreme manifestations begins to justify itself - wait for trouble.


            In fact, none of those who raised the butch did not read this magazine and do not know what is written there.

            1. Tron
              Tron April 22 2014 12: 33
              +2
              Quote: Zymran
              In fact, none of those who raised the butch did not read this magazine and do not know what is written there

              Well, the forum has one of the goals to get to the truth.
        2. bomg.77
          bomg.77 April 22 2014 13: 51
          +2
          Quote: Zymran
          These are the Mongols, actually.
          did not see your comment, but also wrote about it.
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        4. siberalt
          siberalt April 22 2014 14: 09
          -1
          Interestingly, do the Mongols even know who Hitler is? Before them, even the Japs did not have time to reach.
          There on the blue pediment of the building is the same symbol as your flag. Or are you from Mongolia?
          1. Guard
            Guard April 23 2014 01: 20
            +2
            Quote: siberalt
            Interestingly, do the Mongols even know who Hitler is? Before them, even the Japs did not have time to reach.

            I marvel at your ignorance. Several times already I saw you writing frank ignorant nonsense.
            As for this your statement, then:
            a) Mongolia knows very well who Hitler is. Mongolia was an ally of the USSR in the war against Nazism, and made a feasible contribution to the defense capability of the Soviet Union through its disinterested supply of goods during the war years. The tank column, built with donations from the Mongols, reached Berlin, as did the numerous Mongol horses that made up the lion's share of the Red Army's horse stock.
            b) Mongolia was attacked by Japan. It was on the territory of this country that the Red Army fought with the Japanese - in the Khalkhin Gol area.
      3. nnnnnn
        nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 20
        +5
        Quote: TroN
        Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception
        This photo is from Ulaanbaatar. the neo-Nazi group Tsagaan Hass, whose name translates as White Swastika,
        Tsagaan Hass leaders say they do not support violence, although they respect Adolf Hitler. At the same time, they lose sight of the fact that the captured Red Army men, who had pronounced Mongoloid features, were shot by the Germans without bringing prisoners of war to the camp.
        The Mongol Nazis believe that the main threat to the purity of their race is the Chinese. They seduce Mongolian women to marry them, obtain coveted Mongolian citizenship and in this way break free from the guardianship of the authorities of their native Celestial Empire. Leader Tsagaan Hass Ariunbold Altanchum
        1. Zymran
          Zymran April 22 2014 12: 22
          +2
          Quote: nnnnnn
          At the same time, they lose sight of the fact that the captured Red Army men, who had pronounced Mongoloid features, were shot by the Germans without bringing prisoners of war to the camp.


          And the Kalmyk cavalry corps and the Turkestan legion from whom did they recruit?
        2. Tron
          Tron April 22 2014 12: 41
          +1
          Thanks, I will know now
      4. RUSS
        RUSS April 22 2014 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: TroN
        Quote: sus
        Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

        Unfortunately, there are still many Nazi ubl @ dkov, and Kazakhstan is no exception


        In this photo, the Mongol Natsiks, not Kazakhs ....
        1. Zymran
          Zymran April 22 2014 12: 24
          +5
          Quote: RUSS
          In this photo, the Mongol Natsiks, not Kazakhs ....


          By the way, Hitler is a very popular figure in Iran, India and Pakistan. And local patriots here seem to be very supportive of Iran and its regime. Maybe send them a note?
      5. hommer
        hommer April 22 2014 13: 08
        +6

        These are not Kazakhs.
        On the left of the building are inscriptions in Mongolian, not Kazakh!
        In such a T-shirt in Kazakhstan, only a suicide can appear on the street!
        1. Humpty
          Humpty April 22 2014 14: 39
          +2
          He also drew attention to the inscriptions. But it is not necessary to look at them. It seems immediately obvious that there are some Mongols. In Russia, unfortunately, many Tajiks are not distinguished from the Mongols by their faces.
      6. bomg.77
        bomg.77 April 22 2014 13: 50
        +2
        This photo is not Kazakh, but Mongolian. In Mongolia, the youth now has a cult of Fascism, they are struggling with Chinese expansion.
  15. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian April 22 2014 09: 55
    +7
    Quote: sus
    In Kazakhstan, a similar scenario will be played by the Zionists, as in Ukraine in the coming 2 years. First, they will pit the Russian people with the Kazakh people through crime, through paid Natsik they will cultivate Russophobia among the Kazakhs. Hitler's whitewashing and propaganda and other Russophobic evil spirits will now crawl out of their holes there.

    Kazakhstanis do not sit back, you need to put in place the Nazi bastards and destroy in the bud their attempts to embroil the Russians and Kazakhs.


    I agree and support for the consent and unity of the peoples of Kazakhstan, I hope that in Kazakhstan we have more sane people than the liberals and Natsiks of the local spill, serially stamped under one cliche.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 April 22 2014 10: 26
      -2
      Quote: Scandinavian
      I hope that in Kazakhstan we have more sensible people than the liberals and Natsiks of the local spill, serially stamped under one cliche.

      And the stamping shop at hand is the so-called Turan University .... a reflex camera from our HSE adjusted for the local ethnic group ...
      1. Guard
        Guard April 23 2014 01: 29
        +2
        Quote: sergey72
        And the stamping shop at hand is the so-called Turan University .... a reflex camera from our HSE adjusted for the local ethnic group ...

        sho for nonsense?
    2. blizart
      blizart April 22 2014 12: 40
      +1
      I represent some military authorities, it is clear that we only act on orders, there was no command to touch the religious "figures" in the troops, so they put the units on the parade ground for prayer (!), Not to mention the prayer rooms in the barracks and the observance of fasting. A team came in (after Zhanaozen), uprooted to hell in less than six months, who was fired, who was heated up for "cabbage", and who was imprisoned, and they did it with pleasure. So a lot depends on the people giving orders, if they are not against our conscience, then we are always welcome
  16. Rus_87
    Rus_87 April 22 2014 09: 55
    +7
    We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons (in any case, I understood that they were water cannons) But to the credit of our government, they quickly "extinguished" everything quietly, not allowing it to flare up, but apparently, "sparks "still remained ...
    1. Zymran
      Zymran April 22 2014 12: 19
      +3
      Quote: Rus_87


      We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons


      Bullshit. If these events took place, then where is the media coverage, or at least publications on the Internet?
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 22 2014 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: Zymran
        Quote: Rus_87


        We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons


        Bullshit. If these events took place, then where is the media coverage, or at least publications on the Internet?

        Of course, I live in the south, I have never seen or heard of such a thing. Maybe he means "dombra party" is when young people gathered in parks and sang songs to the dombra, but they were forbidden to do so because vigilant citizens called the police and complained that it bothers them and interferes with what the Kazakhs sing about.
        1. Rus_87
          Rus_87 April 22 2014 13: 24
          +2
          Do you live in the south, where exactly is the city? The fact that they did not hear or did not read about it on the Internet does not mean that it was not! The events in Zhanaozen didn’t advertise with us too, if it weren’t for the Russian media, they would not have really known anything.
          1. romb
            romb April 22 2014 13: 36
            +5
            And who said that the citizens of Kazakhstan learned about the incident indicated to you only through the Russian media? Moreover, the information provided by these media was too biased in its content. Everyone has known and knows about it for a long time - the principle of "Uzyn Kulak" works very well for the Kazakhs.
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      3. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ April 22 2014 16: 04
        0
        Quote: Zymran
        Lie.
        Greetings. It’s kind of nonsense, not a couple of years, a little more than years ago it was, at the level of rumors, it seems, someone was trying to organize something by December 16, they said that the initiative came from Rakhat. But everything at the level of rumors remained. Maybe the authorities worked, or maybe someone just launched a horror story, I won’t say anything. Personally, I didn’t particularly bother, familiar Kazakhs said that all this garbage, if they find a couple of thugs, then we will pull our legs out to them.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg April 22 2014 19: 39
          +3
          Andrey salem. rumors and rumors or gossip and gossip, or one grandmother said, to be honest, the Russian-speakers have a convulsive readiness for persecution according to the national sign, I think some of the Russian-speakers spread these rumors themselves and then enjoy them. How in my childhood we frightened each other with scary stories about the "black hand", with bated breath we told each other and then at night we were afraid to go to the toilet laughing
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ April 22 2014 20: 37
            +2
            Salem Sagat. I have not believed rumors and gossip for a long time.
            Quote: Semurg
            to be honest, Russian-speaking convulsive readiness for persecution on a national basis

            To be honest, the fears were at the beginning of the 90's, so they were left there.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg April 22 2014 20: 52
              +3
              It’s good that fears were left in the past, 90 there was a generally desperate time, as I remember so I shuddered fires in all the yards where they cook food and darkness after sunset. There are separate duriks turned on nats.voprsah (as without them laughing ), but the main population thinks about completely different problems, here the granddaughter sits nearby and annoys at the expense of the ball gown at the prom from the kindergarten, and I sit and pretend to grumble about what the graduation is doing in the kindergarten, and I’m wondering what part of the bag to this event laughing .
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    2. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 22 2014 13: 04
      +1
      The most interesting thing was in Kaskelen, more precisely at Chemolgan station, there were such cases, the Russians are fighting with the Kazakhs, but it’s worth hearing that the Turks are turning up and they are already going to beat the Turks together — it was 1988 and I still don’t understand why there was such an attitude towards the Turks?
      1. Zymran
        Zymran April 22 2014 13: 07
        +1
        These are Meskhetian Turks, remember Fergana 1989
    3. romb
      romb April 22 2014 13: 07
      +1
      And from this place in more detail ....
    4. Kasym
      Kasym April 22 2014 17: 23
      +4
      No, Rus 87, in Shymkent the last time the cops were thrown over because of some kind of rapist who raped a youngster. The cops screwed up there either - either they released them, or they gave them a bribe and they released them. Well, our Texas let everyone out there crap. I don’t remember who was a rapist by nationality, I think a Caucasian. Well, there the cops and Caucasians got it. Someone from the acquaintances of Chimkens said that in hospitals the people are full - only Caucasians.
      And what have the Slavs to do with it? Ruslan, then with your comment our Russian friends will start poking us. Here it was, here your countryman writes that you are oppressing the Russians. Not good at it. I advise you to remove it. hi
  17. andj61
    andj61 April 22 2014 09: 55
    +3
    Quote: mamont5
    Quote: Roman1970
    It is very disappointing that Kazakhstan popularizes Hitler ...

    Yes, actually, the sought-after Arab scholar and nationalist Rasul Zhumaly is far from the whole of Kazakhstan, and you should not pay attention to the opinions of individual garbage.


    It is very disappointing that this is generally possible in Kazakhstan. I think that the Kazakhs are a wise people, and they themselves will deal with similar liberalistic Fuhrer local bottling!
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 22 2014 18: 14
      +6
      Andrey, our laws are tough on this score. I already wrote that 83 people. put for ter. and extras. ... If there really is something there (praise and propaganda of Nazism, incitement of international strife - at least 5 years), then the prosecutor's office will react (check is scheduled). In our country, parties and public organizations and movements on a national basis (except for diasporas, for example, the Russian Community of Kazakhstan) are also prohibited by law. That is, such as "Freedom", "Right Sector" are prohibited. There are even specials. state body - the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan. Where all the diasporas are represented (9 seats in parliament for the ANC with rotation every two years). The ANC develops laws in terms of the peaceful existence of all nationalities living in the Republic of Kazakhstan and the prevention of extremism, intolerance in religion, language and nationality. hi
  18. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 22 2014 09: 56
    +2
    All these animals with a nationalistic smell do not understand the main essence of fascism-Nazism.
    Nazi Nazi and Hitler can only be called one who divides humanity into higher and lower races, into slaves and masters, who are trying to establish the dominance of their nationality or race over other people.
    A pig demanding that the flight attendant speak Kazakh with him can be called a fascist.
    Putin never proclaimed the Russians a race of masters, on the contrary, to the detriment of the Russians, he gives more rights to national minorities, such as Kazakhs. Even if he had joined the EU and the USA to Russia, Putin has nothing to do with Hitler.
  19. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 22 2014 09: 56
    +3
    As they say, the road to hell is strewn with good intentions, and the excuses of the magazine owners do not stand up to criticism. Advertising fascism do the most thankless job. Democrats must have forgotten about Buchenwald, so take a trip and refresh your memory.
  20. groin
    groin April 22 2014 10: 02
    +13
    Without payment and ordering from outside, he wouldn’t even have enough brains to fill out a postcard, but it issues a magazine. Their employers always and everywhere choose performers, as it were, in the correct way, inadequate.
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  22. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian April 22 2014 10: 04
    +6
    Quote: groin
    Without payment and ordering from outside, he wouldn’t even have enough brains to fill out a postcard, but it issues a magazine. Their employers always and everywhere choose performers, as it were, in the correct way, inadequate.

    YES stopudovo without the help and the Central Administration of the Amerov Embassy in the Republic of Kazakhstan, this article would not have come out ... after all, in May signing the agreement on the Eurasian Union between the Russian Federation, the Republic of Kazakhstan and the BR ....
    1. KOH
      KOH April 22 2014 10: 15
      +2
      Amer, oh how painful it is to watch as the time of signing approaches, I think this is not the last trick of the cattle ...
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 22 2014 10: 12
    +3
    If they really give the minimum salary, it is worth working in this direction. Because we can really see on the example of Ukraine what these "little things" then grow into. At first, the Banderaites were not taken seriously either. Now this has to be done sharply and harshly. Especially if in Russia such people with their "special vision" suddenly emerge.
  24. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 22 2014 10: 13
    +3
    And who knows from what derivative "Maidan"
    Not by chance from "MAIDANEK!
    Can send all maydaunov home?
  25. andj61
    andj61 April 22 2014 10: 17
    +11
    Quote: andko5
    Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...


    In general, the Kazakhs grazed cattle near Saratov and near Astrakhan. And some clans not only beyond the Volga, but also went beyond the Don. As soon as we begin to pronounce such words out loud in relation to our allies, we become weaker, moreover, both Russia and Kazakhstan. Our peoples were united over 200 years ago, their friendship was sealed with blood in the Great War. We must not forget that Kazakhstan was formed as a union republic in the 30s, when a world revolution was still awaited and firmly believed in its inevitability. ".. it means that in a world without Russia, without Latvia, to live as a single human community." Many Kazakhs remember this and themselves advocate not just an alliance, but even unification with Russia into one state. And now, oh, how you shouldn't touch the issues of territories in relations with Kazakhstan at all, which does not mean a refusal to support Russian political and social movements operating within the framework and according to the laws of Kazakhstan.
  26. Nomad
    Nomad April 22 2014 10: 19
    +6
    The Prosecutor General’s Office began checking the journal dedicated to Hitler http://news.nur.kz/310845.html
    Kazakh Foreign Ministry called Hitler magazine unacceptable http://news.nur.kz/310817.html
  27. Celmz
    Celmz April 22 2014 10: 27
    0
    "Maidan" - as I understand it, this is an area, and these, suddenly enlightened from an immense number of dollars, of course works out - do not forget that you can print as many as you like.
  28. shaman-25rus
    shaman-25rus April 22 2014 10: 29
    +5
    about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...
    1. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer April 22 2014 12: 33
      0
      Quote: shaman-25rus
      about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...

      Ughus, and in another 5 years all these grandfathers will die out, and Kazakh-Natsiks, on the contrary, will multiply and then the Russians will really begin to "trample" there.
    2. nnnnnn
      nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: shaman-25rus
      about five years ago in Almaty 3 juvenile Kazakh nationalists became attached to me. Type Russian-right now-trample. The reaction of adult passers-by is interesting. especially grandfathers with a stick. beat those youngsters and sentenced "do not dishonor ...!" and grandfather added "they didn't finish you off ... at 45" ...

      Damn, well, when you are taught to lie in your office normally. How did you know that these three Kazakhs were nationalists with a bandage on his arm? or they came up to you and we introduced ourselves as Kazakhs and Nazis and we’ll beat you, or maybe it’s all corny three gopniks just to **** ’to you? Why pipet about anything?
      1. shaman-25rus
        shaman-25rus April 22 2014 14: 10
        +1
        Weird. First. I'm not from the office. Secondly. The words "what the hell came to my country and go to your Russia" seem to hint.
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  30. Nomad
    Nomad April 22 2014 10: 35
    +9
    Quote: andko5
    Incidentally, Kazakhstan, as illegally as Crimea, was transferred vast territories of the South Urals. And they never even grazed their sheep there. It is necessary to draw conclusions ...

    Woah, it starts! Popular motive, yes. Questions.
    1. What can be the original Russian lands east of the Ural Mountains?
    Siberia is de facto and de jure Russian, but it is not native Russian land. Do you understand the difference? Northern Kazakhstan, which you are hinting at, is all the more not Russian: neither de jure, de facto, nor historically.
    2. Is there little land in Russia?
    3. What does it mean illegally? The Kazakh border is completely and completely delimited and demarcated in the 1990s. If this is illegal, then what borders in the modern world can be considered legal at all? The same Siberia Muscovy took over legally, or what? But the European part of Russia - the Finno-Ugric lands subordinated to the Kiev princes - is it legal or may you want to play back, as it was?
    For your information, the Kazakhs grazed their sheep from the Volga to the China Wall. And our direct ancestors - so in general throughout the entire steppe belt of Eurasia from the Danube to the Pacific Ocean in those days when there was not even a mention of the Moscow Principality.
    By the way, Orenburg and Omsk were built on the land of Kazakh nomads, not without reason in the 1920s Orenburg was the capital of the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. Tashkent was owned by Kazakhs for 200 years with interruptions; under Stalin, Karakalpakia was handed over to Uzbeks from the KZ.
    So what? What significance does this have now, besides being pleasant to remember?
    For the future - when you write this, keep in mind that here we also draw our conclusions. Eurasian integration is a voluntary and non-alternative business, if that.
    1. 222222
      222222 April 22 2014 10: 41
      +5
      Nomad (2) KZ Today, 10:35 "And our direct ancestors - so in general throughout the steppe belt of Eurasia from the Danube to the Pacific Ocean in those days when there was not even a trace of the Moscow principality.!
      .. don’t be angry with Yushchenko .. It’s time to know - WHO is the oldest ..
      1. dimdimich71
        dimdimich71 April 22 2014 17: 17
        0
        I know! I know! Adam was Ukrainian ...
      2. koshh
        koshh April 22 2014 17: 58
        0
        Well done! Everything is logical.
    2. shuhartred
      shuhartred April 22 2014 13: 22
      +7
      Quote: Nomad
      For the future - when you write this, keep in mind that here we also draw our conclusions.

      In-in, but you were led and answered. Do you think he needs your answer? Not once. He needs a reaction. She went and the troll can calmly go to sleep, the task is completed. The second option is just a woodpecker. What are you arguing with the woodpecker? Him, your argument is again up to the lantern. And to draw conclusions based on the scribble of one woodpecker is not worth it. hi
    3. koshh
      koshh April 22 2014 17: 49
      +1
      Quote: Nomad
      So what? What significance does this have now, besides being pleasant to remember?

      This is a clever phrase.
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  32. their
    their April 22 2014 10: 46
    -1
    On the topic of the article (link below), carefully read the comments "best" and draw conclusions. The paid army of western lackeys has been working on the Tengri site for about two months, according to my observations. Nazi comments are in the top, pro-Russian ones are minified.

    The KNB does nothing?

    http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/redaktor-anyiz-adam-nazval-shumihu-vokrug-j


    urnala-gitlere-rabotoy-rossiyskogo-254027 /
    1. romb
      romb April 22 2014 13: 25
      +3
      Less need to deal with provocations, so they will not minus. I also read these comments. So, practically all indignant citizens, to elementary questions like: - "Have you personally read this article? Is your level of proficiency in the Kazakh language sufficient to pretend to be an expert capable of giving an unbiased assessment of the semantic content of the article?" - made it clear - no, I have not read it, but (unequivocally) I condemn.
    2. Kasym
      Kasym April 22 2014 17: 29
      +4
      "Last year, 83 people were imprisoned for terrorism and extremism" - Vremya newspaper last Thursday - plump.
  33. nemec55
    nemec55 April 22 2014 10: 51
    0
    Well damn freaks everywhere enough
  34. Nomad
    Nomad April 22 2014 10: 53
    +2
    Quote: Ruswolf
    And who knows from what derivative "Maidan"

    Maidan is Turkism. In Kazakh language means front (military).
  35. Nomad
    Nomad April 22 2014 10: 58
    +4
    Quote: 222222
    .. don’t be angry with Yushchenko .. It’s time to know - WHO is the oldest ..

    So we do not pretend! laughing
    1. 222222
      222222 April 22 2014 13: 02
      +1
      Nomad (2) KZ Today, 10:58 AM New
      So we do not pretend! "...
      . oh ce garne ... hi
  36. Stavros
    Stavros April 22 2014 11: 39
    0
    Until fig recently appeared Arabists, political scientists and other analysts. How to grow by leaps and bounds.
  37. made13
    made13 April 22 2014 11: 42
    +1
    Hitler needs to know - to meet at a meeting of 3,14. An article in a magazine is a provocation. A minor injection, but such publications cannot be left unpunished - at least condemned in absentia for inciting ethnic hatred. Put on the international wanted list. By any means, stop trying to organize mass propaganda. So that the barking of individual liberals does not turn into the howling of another Euro-Maidan.
  38. mig31
    mig31 April 22 2014 11: 42
    0
    Unfortunately, all countries have their own "swamp", so that the State Department toads do not grow, it is necessary to crush the tadpoles ...
  39. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE April 22 2014 11: 56
    +1
    Pravoseki sat on the BMP.
    1. MG42
      MG42 April 22 2014 12: 49
      +1
      The peasant had hardly crushed if he had lied on the road, these freaks would not have stopped.
  40. mackonya
    mackonya April 22 2014 12: 13
    +6
    I live in Almaty and I never remember this magazine on sale, it seems that no one reads it at all. And regarding the article, well, I think in every country there are such - "terry".
    1. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 32
      +1
      You probably do not go to the mail. It is distributed through the mail, forever in the post office, like a fool shag, immediately for half a year, or even more. Expensive printing, chic, brilliance, here people are not in a hurry to buy it, because - I feel sorry for the money.
  41. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 24
    +7
    Hitler's birthday celebrators set fire to prosecutor's office in Chelyabinsk

    Molotov cocktails were thrown around midnight on April 21 at the building of the prosecutor's office in Chelyabinsk.

    According to the Chelyabinsk.ru Academy of Sciences, the crime could have been committed by representatives of informal groups that celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday in such an extremist way. Six Molotov cocktails were thrown into the building of the prosecutor's office. The neo-fascists also drew a swastika and left an inscription on the wall: “Burn the trash for Adolf.” Two cabinets burned out completely. Arriving firefighters defended the rest of the building from the fire.

    The damage caused by the fire is now being established. It turns out what documents were burnt in two offices of the assistant prosecutors of the Kalinin district of Chelyabinsk. The issue of initiating a criminal case is being decided.
  42. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 27
    +3
    We take an example from the Russian Federation
    On April 3, 2014, the Izvestia newspaper published an article by Andronik Migranyan "Our Peredonovs"

    The author in the article encourages readers to look at Hitler as a collector of German lands.
    Andranik Movsesovich Migranyan is a Russian political scientist and vice president of the International Fund for Economic and Social Reforms. Member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Historical Sciences. Certificate of Honor of the President of the Russian Federation (December 12, 2008) - for his active participation in the preparation of the draft Constitution of the Russian Federation and his great contribution to the development of the democratic foundations of the Russian Federation
    "It is necessary to distinguish between Hitler before 1939 and Hitler after 1939 and separate flies from cutlets. The fact is that while Hitler was collecting land, and if he would be famous only for the fact that without a single drop of blood united Germany and Austria, the Sudetenland with Germany, Memel with Germany, actually completing what Bismarck did not succeed in, and if Hitler had stopped at this, he would have remained a politician of the highest class in the history of his country. "
  43. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 34
    +3
    100 great commanders of the Second World Book of the famous military historian Yu.N. Lubchenkova is dedicated to the one hundred great commanders of the Second World War. It begins with the biographies of Soviet commanders. This is the Supreme Commander I.V. Stalin, members of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command, commanders of the fronts, chief marshals of the armed forces, commanders of the fleets and armies. Significant attention is paid to the commanders of the USSR allies - the USA, Great Britain, and France. The military leaders of the enemy, the armed forces of Germany, Japan, Italy and satellite countries, are not forgotten, so this historian writes that Hitler is the GREAT SILVER
  44. midashko
    midashko April 22 2014 12: 42
    +1
    But the author seems to be right when he says: "If a politician like Hitler appears from nowhere (Yarosh, for example, the truth is too small), and the people under his leadership begin to carry out a national chauvinist idea, then the state will come to the state. And here Putin and Russia, Putin was re-elected several times, and his policy is far from chauvinism!
  45. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 48
    +5
    A visual analysis of the cover demonstrates that the magazine is not at all engaged in the propaganda of fascism. Yes, on the first page of Hitler’s photo, but also next to the famous anti-fascist installation, showing the gap between the hands of the swastika. Above is the inscription "Disaster for humanity." There is one more explanation: “History of the Second World War”. On the last page there is a photo of Soviet soldiers hoisting a red banner over the Reichstag. As a symbol of Hitler’s collapse. Yes, the magazine contains children's photos of the Fuhrer. But they are also present in all historical films, books and publications. For example, in the famous film by M. Romm “Ordinary Fascism”. And the channel "Russia 24" the other day, the 125th anniversary of Hitler devoted a whole film-study. And who read what is written there in this magazine? there it is written in Kazakh. There are suspicions that the whole fuss broke out due to an article by Rasul Zhumaly, who drew historical and political analogies between Hitler and Putin.
  46. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn April 22 2014 12: 53
    +3
    Quote: Rus_87
    We also have enough of our own "Bandera" members in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... A couple of years ago we had a turmoil in Shymkent, almost like in Ukraine, like the Russians go to your Russia, we don't need slaves, etc. then for the first time in my life I saw military armored Kamaz trucks with water cannons (in any case, I understood that they were water cannons) But to the credit of our government, they quickly "extinguished" everything quietly, not allowing it to flare up, but apparently, "sparks "still remained ...

    Dear comrade, remind the scene of the year, month, I don’t remember something, but if it were then all the media would ring about it. so pipet not bags carry the troll unhappy
    1. Rus_87
      Rus_87 April 22 2014 13: 44
      0
      Firstly, follow the language, a person without imagination (judging by the nickname), and secondly,
      it was in the year 2007-2008, I don’t remember exactly, I remember exactly that all this mess was on December 16, then an event of some kind was in Lenger, a little girl was supposedly raped and killed, but that was just an excuse. Kamaz from Almaty sent, because Almaty numbers were. I was a student then, then we were all gathered, and they were strictly punished to sit at home, not to go out on the streets again, and especially not to gather in crowds. On the main square of the city, Al-Farabi, someone made a home-made poster, content like the Russians roll while they are safe, we do not need slaves here. The benefit did not hang long, the police immediately took it off, but conversations about this poster went around the city for a long time.
      So, I advise all the gentlemen who do not believe, to hold on to the language, especially to those who are like Kazakhstan, who all know.
      1. romb
        romb April 22 2014 14: 38
        +3
        Well, you also "inflated the elephant out of a fly." Why scatter loud words? The usual popular outrage, which was not even close to directed against the Russians, but was just another reminder to individual greyhounds of representatives of other peoples from among the citizens of our country that in Kazakhstan one needs to behave like a human being, and what will happen if you cross the line of what is permitted. Here's to you, from the fact that the Kazakhs put individual freaks in their place, has it really gotten worse? I think not. Here, on the contrary, I have to thank them for the fact that they showed (a kind of) an active civic position to curb possible lawlessness in the future. And the students, I am sure, were driven home obviously not on the basis of ethnicity.
        Ah, again, these mystical posters - such posters that no one can not see, not photograph? wink
        1. Rus_87
          Rus_87 April 22 2014 15: 46
          -1
          Yes, the usual popular indignation !!! If in your place where you live, "ordinary popular indignation" is the norm, then I sympathize with you! In our relatively quiet city, similar events happen once every 50 years, if not less often (the latter, if memory serves as it was sometime in the 60s or 70s of the 20th century, then we had a revolt against the police) and are extraordinary.
          1. romb
            romb April 22 2014 15: 57
            +1
            OK, everything is clear. And where does the "Bandera" and the oppression of the Russians?
      2. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ April 22 2014 16: 35
        +3
        Quote: Rus_87
        then an event was kind of in Lenger, a little girl seemed to be raped and killed, but that was just an excuse.

        There were unrest against the Meskhetian Turks, and I fully support the Kazakhs here. They then all the village for their bastard. Got up, and the Kazakhs showed them where the crayfish hibernate. This kneading was not started by the Kazakhs, but in the end they suffered the most.
    2. Anuarkz
      Anuarkz April 22 2014 13: 47
      +7
      I myself was from Shymkent in 2007, only Russians were not persecuted then, but they drove representatives of the Caucasian nations after a Kurd in a village near the town of Lenger raped a small child. It was fun time, all the hospitals were packed with khachi, and it was impossible to step up the cops in the city, and about 5 thousand people sent from Almaty to the city, and that the most interesting thing was not said about it in the media.
      1. Rus_87
        Rus_87 April 22 2014 13: 58
        +1
        AnuarKz, you are right, there was nothing in the media, only a couple of issues of "Emergency Call" in the local Otrar. Kurds, Azeris, etc. then got you right, but there were Russophobic slogans too, personally the witness himself. It was then, as it were, a reason to rally the Kazakh population against other nations. People were really very angry with what happened, and on their just anger, then certain people wanted to benefit.
        1. Anuarkz
          Anuarkz April 22 2014 14: 05
          +5
          Rus_87 no need to dramatize what the slogans were. There is always a percentage of people who have something wrong with their brains. I even remember on December 16 several people went to the square with anti-Russian posters, but their trouble immediately swaddled riot police and they disappeared about a miracle, but they disappeared still nothing is heard of them. Knowing our mentality, they could not just disappear, but we will not know about it anymore.
          1. Rus_87
            Rus_87 April 22 2014 14: 14
            +3
            Yes, I don’t dramatize what was, was, but it was. I wrote in my first post as soon as I wanted to play a nationalist card in our south, right there our authorities and law enforcement bodies strangled everything in the bud, preventing big trouble from flaring up. Now everything is quiet, we live, work, enjoy the spring))
        2. Semurg
          Semurg April 22 2014 14: 27
          +5
          Quote: Rus_87
          AnuarKz, you are right, there was nothing in the media, only a couple of issues of "Emergency Call" in the local Otrar. Kurds, Azeris, etc. then got you right, but there were Russophobic slogans too, personally the witness himself. It was then, as it were, a reason to rally the Kazakh population against other nations. People were really very angry with what happened, and on their just anger, then certain people wanted to benefit.

          To clarify the situation went to the Kurds and not all Kurds, but a certain family and cops. In general, it was so an 18-year-old Kurd raped a child-boy, he was closed, and his relatives collected the grandmother and bought him off. Then, when the relatives of the child found out about this and went to the Kurds to tell you that you were doing "su-ki", and there two or three uncles decided to show the toughness and began to shoot at people, well, in response, they went merry, and then the cops got to cover these local Kurds. They burned down three houses of this family, and other Kurds from their clan for collecting money for such a thing (paying off a pedophile), were offered to leave the village on good terms. As for the posters, you exaggerated a little, while there lived on Sputnik and radio old women would have reported everything if something had happened laughing
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          2. Semurg
            Semurg April 22 2014 14: 39
            +3
            I will add a little earlier in the Kiyal-Alem park Chechens who arrived from Chechnya on a visit cut three guards, the next day the guys called up at the expense of this mess, local Chechens found out about this and quickly escorted the guests by punishing them themselves (from their words), and collected the money on treatment and moral damages and business amicably hushed up. I think that they chose the best option and did not bullish showing the steepness of the Caucasus Mountains.
            1. Rus_87
              Rus_87 April 22 2014 15: 38
              0
              What you are telling here is one side of the coin, criminal. And there was also political. Otherwise, why was it because of some Caucasians who came to visit, or couples of Kurds, as you say here, to draw additional forces from Almaty, approx. 5 thousand people to drive special equipment to disperse the demonstrations? You were not in our city then, you didn’t see everything, you don’t know, but you undertake to say something, it’s not good!
              1. Semurg
                Semurg April 22 2014 19: 50
                +1
                Quote: Rus_87
                What you are telling here is one side of the coin, criminal. And there was also political. Otherwise, why was it because of some Caucasians who came to visit, or couples of Kurds, as you say here, to draw additional forces from Almaty, approx. 5 thousand people to drive special equipment to disperse the demonstrations? You were not in our city then, you didn’t see everything, you don’t know, but you undertake to say something, it’s not good!

                So they were frightened, the local Kazakhs defeated the police stronghold in the aul (for accepting bribes from the Kurds) and still threatened the head of the investigation and the police department who released the pedophile for the testicles to hang up, so they sent a cloud of cops (by the way, after the debriefing, to all local communal district cops gave wolf tickets and kicked out of the organs). And I live in the city of Shymkent and relatives live in that aul.
                1. Zymran
                  Zymran April 22 2014 19: 54
                  +1
                  But how is the situation now, are Kurds and Meskheti calm?
                  1. Semurg
                    Semurg April 22 2014 20: 59
                    +3
                    Quote: Zymran
                    But how is the situation now, are Kurds and Meskheti calm?

                    Yes, they are calm, just that family of the shore lost from money. The only Kurdish drug dangers under the roof of the cops from the department to combat drugs. not all but some are very active in families.
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          3. Zymran
            Zymran April 22 2014 15: 27
            +5
            Well, you see, not Russians, but Kurds, not a couple of years ago, but in 2008. So because of the stupid woodpeckers, rumors spawn.
            1. romb
              romb April 22 2014 15: 55
              +6
              That's because of the stupid woodpeckers and rumors are spawning.

              Well, how can you not understand. This is what he wanted. The little man, speculating on this topic, received the coveted plus signs. Tried to fucking make a cheap You Won't Believe sensation.hi
      2. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ April 22 2014 16: 52
        +3
        Quote: AnuarKz
        I am from Shymkent
        Rus_87 A couple of years ago, we have in Shymkent
        I am watching us from the 13 region more and more.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym April 22 2014 17: 32
          +4
          Sorry, we’ve already figured it out here. I answered under Ruslan’s comment, and then everything was sorted out. hi
        2. Semurg
          Semurg April 22 2014 19: 53
          +5
          Quote: Andrew KZ
          Quote: AnuarKz
          I am from Shymkent
          Rus_87 A couple of years ago, we have in Shymkent
          I am watching us from the 13 region more and more.

          YES and I watch the whole team. Now we will begin to rinse for the southern movements laughing .
          1. Zymran
            Zymran April 22 2014 19: 55
            +4
            Better here than in Astana. laughing
            Joke
            1. Semurg
              Semurg April 22 2014 21: 06
              +3
              Quote: Zymran
              Better here than in Astana. laughing
              Joke

              Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this we are a bit sensitive and do not like in Astana and further throughout laughing
              1. Zymran
                Zymran April 22 2014 21: 10
                +6
                Quote: Semurg
                Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this, we are a bit sensitive and do not like us in Astana and then throughout laughing


                Game: who on the old Opel will quickly fill all of Kazakhstan. No one knows the rules, but they play all the south. (with) laughing
                1. Semurg
                  Semurg April 22 2014 21: 30
                  +4
                  Quote: Zymran
                  Quote: Semurg
                  Yes, our lungs are on the rise and include options for this, we are a bit sensitive and do not like us in Astana and then throughout laughing


                  Game: who on the old Opel will quickly fill all of Kazakhstan. No one knows the rules, but they play all the south. (with) laughing

                  it’s like friends come from Astana and Almaty and say they get behind the wheel and your Texans turn on the left turn signal and turn right right after seeing a voter on the side of the road laughing . The truth must be admitted after the recent tightening of the rules of order a little more.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym April 22 2014 23: 18
                    +4
                    Now even tougher. And cars with Chimken numbers in Alma-Ata are probably every tenth. laughing .
                    In the south, the competition is tougher, the most numerous region is still "easy to rise". They decided to make Shymkent a MEGAPOLIS. Is there any progress and what is planned in this regard? And in general, what is the meaning of this word they put? hi
                    1. Semurg
                      Semurg April 23 2014 00: 28
                      +3
                      I’m watching Atletico-Chelsea for 70 minutes while the crush is on. The game is boring until the first mistake that both of them are waiting for. In the metropolis, so far they have joined the territory from neighboring regions to Shymkent and are taking the city center to a new place. As I understand the meaning, they want to create in Kazakhstan several growth points along with Astana and Almaty and unload the overpopulated auls of the south (without creating regular shanyraks). It seems NAS said that 20% of the population will live in the village. I think that both small and single-industry towns need to be developed, otherwise the entire population will stupidly stretch into 8-10 cities and the rest of the land will be depopulated.
                      1. Andrey KZ
                        Andrey KZ April 23 2014 07: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: Semurg
                        I think that both small and single-industry towns need to be developed, otherwise the entire population will stupidly get stuck in 8-10 cities and the rest of the land will be depopulated.
                        At Easter I went for mushrooms in the direction of Arys. Turning to Badam I saw that hectares were being built up in greenhouses. Near one truck stood, obviously on loading. As I understand it, greenhouses are being built with the latest technology, drip irrigation, computer control, and seemingly solid structures.
                      2. Rus_87
                        Rus_87 April 23 2014 08: 32
                        +2
                        Now I’ll probably grab the cons, they don’t like dissenters in Kazakhstan ...
                        Guys from Kazakhstan, let's dot all I. I understand that it’s unpleasant for you to realize that in our country there is still discrimination based on ethnicity, but nevertheless it exists, fortunately not as pronounced as in Ukraine or somewhere in Poland. You yourself are probably representatives of the indigenous population of our country, and it is difficult for you to notice all those movements that are already taking place in our society. There is no need to throw their hats here, and shout how everything is fine with us, etc. In the south, we have a lot of exactly nationalist-minded people, all this is not so clearly expressed, while the National Academy of Sciences is in power, they quietly sit and breathe in a rag, but at the first opportunity this will break out, mark my word. Yes, as long as it’s all at the level of domestic squabbles, a cat is not a cat, a squabble in the bazaar, you just have to quarrel with a Russian and a Kazakh, then the first one hears to you, you cat, go to your Russia. I agree there are enough idiots everywhere, and this same Zharylkap is a vivid confirmation of this. Nevertheless, you will probably understand me, in any country, such nationalistic statements by representatives of the indigenous population (even if not the most intelligent and numerous in their point of view) are perceived by representatives of other peoples extremely painfully and aggressively. Personally, I have often come across people like Zharylkap, from the latter, I can tell you a case in our regional diagnostic center. I was standing in line to see the doctor (I brought my mother to the appointment), in fact, everyone was sitting quietly in silence, talking peacefully. Then one such "zhalylap" comes up, and tries to skip the line, waving some kind of number, according to which he was supposedly assigned to Hour ago. Polite people (Kazakhs) explained to him that the line was lively and the numbers weren’t rolling here, and that it was necessary to take the turn of the line behind that woman (they point to my mother). To which he began to literally shout that he would not take anyone to turn the line, especially for that Russian (although in reality we are Tatars :)). He went up to his mother and already began to say to her in elevated tones that they say I’ll go to the doctor now, to my mother’s fair indignation, he replied that they say you are Russian, don’t arise here, I am Kazakh, this is my country, we are here in priority on our land, and you, if you want to pump rights, go to your home in Russia. At this point, my patience was overflowing (I always try not to pay attention to such misbehavors, but then I could not resist, especially when he openly began to insult my mother), in general I will not talk further, in short, until I threatened to bring him to justice for inciting interethnic enmity, "mambet" all tried to convince me what kind of people of "blue blood" they are, and we were like visiting a foreign land ... By the way, the hall was full of people, the overwhelming majority of whom were Kazakhs, and no one even had words did not say, they say, bro, what are you talking about here, calm down, etc ... It’s a shame, guys, it’s a shame to tears that there are more and more such junkies.
                        I hope we understand each other ...
                      3. Andrey KZ
                        Andrey KZ April 23 2014 09: 06
                        +5
                        Ruslan, it’s foolish to deny that cases like the one you described occasionally happen. But still, you must admit that they are not typical. Usually people who are not self-confident, who have not achieved anything in life, behave this way. Having humiliated their neighbor, they are trying to raise their status. Having received a rebuff from the entire lineup, he tried to save his face, but you also rebuffed him. It all depends on us, if we put in place such presumptuous villains, then they will think ten times, and whether it is worth running into.
                      4. Semurg
                        Semurg April 23 2014 09: 31
                        +2
                        What Andrey did you correctly answer Ruslan. The only thing I want to add to Ruslana and in the course of the konrata do not write if you can name Mambet in a derogatory form. This is an abbreviated name from Makhambet (like Alyosha and Aleksey) and this name is very respected among the Kazakhs and it is also a transcription in the Kazakh name Muhhamed, which is also respected by all Muslims. Of course, you can say that the Kazakhs themselves say what I’ll answer, it is said by Russian-speaking Kazakhs who differ from Russians only in skin color and eye shape.
                      5. Rus_87
                        Rus_87 April 23 2014 09: 46
                        +3
                        Thank you Semurg for enlightening about the "mambet". It seemed to me (yes, I think to very many people) that the meaning of the word "mambet" is an illiterate, uncivilized person
                      6. Kazbek
                        Kazbek April 23 2014 20: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: Semurg
                        This is an abbreviated name from Makhambet (like Alyosha and Aleksey) and this name is very respected among the Kazakhs
                        .
                        Quote: Rus_87
                        It seemed to me (yes, I think to very many people) that the meaning of the word "mambet" is an illiterate, uncivilized person

                        Duc "Not all poets of Makhambet" recourse
                        I read about such a saying ...
                2. Alibekulu
                  Alibekulu April 23 2014 12: 59
                  +3
                  Quote: Rus_87
                  although in fact we are Tatars :))
                  The funny thing is, for me, this is that "many" Russians of Tatarstan believe that they are "oppressed" by the Tatars laughing
                  Quote: Rus_87
                  Immediately the first will hear in his address, you aoris, come on come to your Russia.
                  Nah did not try to send?
                  The Russians themselves are largely to blame. Somehow they immediately get lost and turn on the "back". And the "zarlikapy" feel it and accordingly.
                  If only they knew that there would be a "Russian response" from the Russians. I don't think they would have spoken like that once again .. request
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  • Conrat83
    Conrat83 April 22 2014 13: 38
    -2
    The editor is just an ordinary mambich.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg April 22 2014 13: 52
      +3
      Quote: Conrat83
      The editor is just an ordinary mambich.

      Eh konyrat, the konyrat would take another nickname, otherwise the Kazakhs reading your posts will start to think that the konyrats are your relatives, although smart Kazakhs will understand that the real Konyrat will not be signed by anybody konrat (what is your name Vasya or Kolya?)
      1. Kazbek
        Kazbek April 22 2014 18: 40
        +4
        Quote: Semurg
        the real Konyrat will not be signed by anyone konrat (what is your name Vasya or Kolya?)
        Likely Kondrat what
        Quote: Klim
        Why Kazakhs do not move from Russia
        Duc Marek Rozny, who Karauyl just migrated from Russia ?! request
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  • Anuarkz
    Anuarkz April 22 2014 13: 39
    +5
    Quote: Horst78
    The one who minus. Where in my commentary is the call and desire for "little green men" to appear on the territory of Kazakhstan? (I understand "-" for this). I would like to ask, do you even know how many Russians left Kazakhstan FROM OWN LAND? And under what slogans were they seen off? Come to Siberia, talk to them. We have a LOT of them.

    Do not spread the myths heard it is not clear where in the 90s they left not because the Kazakhs drove someone, but because of the frankly lousy standard of living. For reference, the Russians were driven from Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. Even now in Kazakhstan, out of 17 million people, 5 million are Russians, Ukrainians and Germans with Tatars.
  • Elephant79
    Elephant79 April 22 2014 14: 14
    0
    Just moral!
  • Ace in the sleeve
    Ace in the sleeve April 22 2014 14: 55
    +1
    Quote: Lyubimov
    Rallying Russians around their leader, inspiring them with a national idea - is it dangerous for someone?


    It seems like the question is what is the national idea. If the return to the borders of the USSR, or the return to Russia of territories with a Russian-speaking population from the former republics of the USSR, then they are dangerous for these countries. And if calls for the return of territories, for example, of Northern Kazakhstan, are heard more often in the Russian press or on the Internet, then such anti-Russian articles will also appear more often. In other words, there is no need to create grounds for such articles, because many perceive "the rallying of Russians" as a threat to their countries.
    1. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 22 2014 16: 39
      +1
      Quote: Ace in the sleeve
      If you return to the borders of the USSR, or return to Russia the territories with the Russian-speaking population from the former republics of the USSR, then they are dangerous for these countries.

      In my opinion, Putin has clearly dotted the e-mine in his "straight line". He then bluntly said that there were no claims to the existing borders.