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Joint projects between Russia and NATO will not be

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Joint projects between Russia and NATO will not beAccording to the RIA News", The Russian Ministry of Defense was optimistic about the statements of some NATO member countries that it is not necessary to be too hard on the Russian Federation. However, Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov noted that Russia will not participate in various projects of the Alliance on the first call.


In the interview "Russian newspaper" Antonov said: “One moment, perhaps, is encouraging optimism. Not all in NATO advocate a hard line towards Russia. The crisis in Ukraine has confirmed this. From the side of NATO and European grandees, the opinion is heard that cooperation with our country should be approached carefully and not “chopped off the shoulder”. Too difficult, long and painfully created a platform for interaction. It is easy to destroy, and it will be difficult to restore. We think so too. ”

In addition, Antonov commented on the situation with the joint management of nuclear forces. According to him, there is a practice when pilots of non-nuclear countries, for example, Germany or the Netherlands, learn to fly planes that in wartime arm with nuclear weapons. Antonov is convinced that this is “a direct violation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear weapons».

Also, the Deputy Minister of Defense stressed that Russia will not instantly accept any offers of cooperation from NATO. “If someone thinks that NATO will finger Russia and we will run into some of their projects, then this is a profound mistake,” he said. According to him, this is the main reason for the withdrawal of the Russian military representative from Brussels, after consultations with which a decision will be made on further cooperation with the alliance.
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  1. Selendis
    Selendis April 22 2014 08: 11
    +7
    If someone thinks that NATO will beckon Russia with a finger, and we will run into some kind of their project, then this is a profound mistake
    And meanwhile, there are brakes in Brussels and America that think exactly that)
    1. Validator
      Validator April 22 2014 08: 15
      +16
      But what projects with such warriors can be?
      1. domokl
        domokl April 22 2014 08: 22
        +9
        Quote: Validator
        But what projects with such warriors can be?

        Dared !!!! good But with NATO ... The fact is that they will not understand in any way that power is not the main thing ... The main thing is a soldier ... And apart from the Germans there are no soldiers there ... They only understand ... And the Germans didn’t fight anymore 70 years
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 April 22 2014 08: 32
      +2
      Quote: Selendis
      And meanwhile, there are brakes in Brussels and America that think exactly that)


      And these are their problems. Let them think for themselves, and we will develop our strengths.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 22 2014 08: 43
        +1
        So Nato will be gone soon. It was not necessary for Western idiots to destroy the good old USSR, if they really wanted to wash their bucks through Nato all their lives.
      2. The comment was deleted.
    3. 225chay
      225chay April 22 2014 11: 03
      +1
      Quote: Selendis
      If someone thinks that NATO will beckon Russia with a finger, and we will run into some kind of their project, then this is a profound mistake


      "There will be no more joint Russia NATO projects ..."
      We ourselves need to send NAT and other OSCE with PACE to hell, there will be less expenses.
      By the way, nationalize their base in Ulyanovsk, and themselves back to Iraq or where else, for example, to Pakistan
    4. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK April 22 2014 15: 02
      0
      It is necessary to help only in one project of the dissolution of NATO. NADO means NADO help.
  2. cybernetick
    cybernetick April 22 2014 08: 14
    +8
    If someone thinks that NATO will beckon Russia with a finger
    then Russia can show a finger, though average.
    1. asar
      asar April 22 2014 08: 34
      +2
      In short, fact, NATO!
    2. Very old
      Very old April 22 2014 08: 53
      +7
      cybernetick,

      let me remind you: "finger" is shown in Hollywood films

      in Russia - FIST _____ and to the very elbow
      1. Eugeneleee
        Eugeneleee April 22 2014 10: 11
        +1
        Looking for what purpose to show;)
        If to understand - a finger, if to crap - a fist ...
    3. shaman-25rus
      shaman-25rus April 22 2014 09: 23
      +1
      not. not a finger. and not just show)))
      1. dimdimich71
        dimdimich71 April 22 2014 13: 11
        0
        But then you won’t be beaten off from them ...
  3. Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 April 22 2014 08: 16
    +3
    How will we continue to live, without NATUSHKA drinks
    It’s been NATO for a long time am
  4. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 22 2014 08: 18
    +5
    The goal, or if it is correct, one of the goals of the Euro-Atlantoids is clear - NATO's advance to the East, the Ring of Bases around Russia, the destabilization of the political and social situation in Russia and the reduction of defense to a minimum, as in the 90s - the seizure of territory through direct aggression by NATO forces with unprecedented genocide of the indigenous population by the forces of UNA-UNSO, the Polish army and other "thirsty for Russian blood" subhumans.
    Dive into resources and logistics.
    Our task - the immediate one - to prevent the expansion of NATO, the distant one - to destroy NATO, the promising one - to push the United States overseas.
    Unfortunately, they have already brought the world to the point that they will have to prepare fortified areas in threatening directions, and in the depths - regional defensive areas (local defense), accelerate the formation of strike weapons and forces, and prepare mobile reserves.
    What the Shtatovs really want to do is to manage to separate Europe and Asia in the trenches in order to support their parasitic economy and domination.
    I personally believe that in the EU and other countries in NATO in the next or subsequent elections, pro-national conservative forces will come to power and destroy all Atlantoid boards.
    I really hope so, because the first bell is Marie Le Pen.
  5. Name
    Name April 22 2014 08: 19
    +3
    The RF Federation Council on 1 of March meant one thing, but for the price ...:
  6. ALTAY2
    ALTAY2 April 22 2014 08: 21
    +6
    There will be no projects, but they want to fly from Agan through Ulyanovsk. And then to Pakistan it is far and scary.
  7. Children BuryKonya
    Children BuryKonya April 22 2014 08: 21
    +1
    So much the worse for NATO.
  8. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 22 2014 08: 22
    +2
    Quote from the Russian folk song "No, we will find it inappropriately" to mine is actual!
  9. queen
    queen April 22 2014 08: 23
    +2
    America needs a new cold war. Although it’s not sure that it was ending at all.
  10. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 22 2014 08: 23
    +2
    "They scared the dog with a loaf!
  11. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 22 2014 08: 24
    +2
    Anatoly Antonov noted that Russia will not participate in various projects of the Alliance at the first call

    Yes, even in the first, even in the 48th, let each other lick one place lol
  12. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan April 22 2014 08: 25
    +4
    No Yeltsin - no contractual projects. Moreover, almost all agreements concluded by Yeltsin ended their existence after the expiration of these agreements. And Russia no longer wants to roll over the old ones, and if it wants to conclude new ones, now on its own terms. But as we can see, from the conditions of Russia, the Pentagon begins to shit in the corners, urinate in the slippers of its own "partners", and after half an hour with an unperturbed look it asks for milk, that is, it hides behind its crap democracy.
  13. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 22 2014 08: 25
    +2
    For some reason Antonov called the US "our partner" the other day. And they don't meow anything about the US operational rear base in Ulyanovsk. You have to be more consistent. Kyrgyzstan, for example, has decided. Or someone flutters on the hook.
    1. shaman-25rus
      shaman-25rus April 22 2014 09: 30
      +1
      in accordance with modern realities, it was necessary to call "our passive rear partner"
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 April 22 2014 09: 42
      0
      If NATO members on their own initiative break off all relations with us, then why is there a transshipment point for them in Ulyanovsk? For them, this is the cheapest way. So why should we worry and worry about the spending of our far from potential enemy? So that they can use the saved money to arrange some other dirty trick for us? We become like Madame Gritsatsuyeva, who "whipped herself"!
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 April 22 2014 12: 29
        0
        Listen, I’m sick of Ulyanovsk, it’s almost not working now. In Pakistan everything is OK so everything is through it. And what is the cheapness of, why the Yankees think it’s very expensive to drive through Germany, it’s just a backup option, no more, and please see the amount of cargo transferred, via Russia and Pakistan,
  14. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 22 2014 08: 26
    +4
    NATO is primarily a military bloc, which was created as a counterweight to Russia. I’m not sure that we need joint projects with a potential adversary.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 April 22 2014 10: 03
      0
      Joint projects are needed based on considerations of studying the enemy and its capabilities. Only any project should first think over how beneficial it is to us and implement it on our terms, and not as with Ulyanovsk. Bought for money, and in the meantime amerovskie pilots are mastering flights over our territory in real conditions! The pilots themselves say, recalling humanitarian flights to Cuba, that a simulator is one thing, a real flight is quite another! The enemy must be studied so as not to receive "surprises".
  15. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 22 2014 08: 26
    +2
    They will fly through Ulyanovsk, but there may be "wild Russian Cossacks" who may "nationalize NATO property" and offend American soldiers.
    And generally through Ulyanovsk it’s impractical and dangerous, because there may a wild bear accidentally enter the strip and break a couple of platoons of NATO soldiers.
    In general, there in Ulyanovsk, however, like in the rest of Russia, in every house there are Kalash, grenades and everything else, and we go to tanks to rest abroad.
  16. mig31
    mig31 April 22 2014 08: 31
    +3
    No NATO, no problem ..
  17. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 22 2014 08: 33
    +2
    A woman with a cart, the mare is easier!
  18. mamont5
    mamont5 April 22 2014 08: 38
    0
    Ours are doing everything right. Each specific project should be considered from the point of view: "What will we get from this?" For example, the base in Ulyanovsk. The supply of NATO forces in Afghanistan goes through it. And now it is beneficial for us that they still get bogged down there. Yes, and they will withdraw the equipment, if we do not help, they will drop it there and who knows whose hands that equipment will fall into. Therefore, each case must be carefully calculated, and emotions are useless here.
  19. andj61
    andj61 April 22 2014 08: 38
    +3
    NATO wants to eat fish and stay as a girl. They announced the cessation of all cooperation with Russia, with the exception of cooperation related to the transit of goods to Afghanistan. Given the planned withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, this is the most important direction for them, they can have a lot of problems without it, you can’t do it one way through Pakistan - it is too risky, and the Turkmenistan-Azerbaijan-Georgia air bridge also had to be abandoned and then for political and purely technical reasons.
    Therefore, it is worth taking the Americans for the most painful thing - and first, in view of their common position and attitude towards Russia, to limit transit through Ulyanovsk. Or at least start considering restriction. I think that this will strengthen our position in any negotiations.
    1. Bully
      Bully April 22 2014 11: 14
      0
      Quote: andj61
      the air bridge Turkmenistan-Azerbaijan-Georgia and later also had to be practically abandoned for political and purely technical reasons

      It seems that it is through Azerbaijan that the amers will have to leave Afghanistan. The other day, a military columnist spoke on the radio, who said how Russia threw the United States on the issue of transport on its territory. Ours did not rest against the horn and refuse to transport, but politely offered to pay such grandmas for rail transportation that the Yankees decided it was better to move through the Caucasus.
  20. asar
    asar April 22 2014 08: 41
    +4
    Okay! Who will suffer the most ?! It is not difficult for Russia to "create" problems for NATO! At least Ulyanovsk! And what - you will leave everything in Afghanistan, just to get away with it! "Presence" in Kyrgyzstan ?! So we will help you, "get out"! Understand that all your attempts are ridiculous, since Russia and NATO did not have serious "points" of contact! You need Russia, but Russia, in general, does not really need NATO!
  21. ken
    ken April 22 2014 08: 48
    +5
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  22. v245721
    v245721 April 22 2014 08: 50
    +1
    Yes, this is a myth invented by Gorbachev and others. For Russia, all these NATO countries have always been and are ENEMIES !! And you should not rely on them, cherish yourself !! You need to build a state like the Great Peter built. !!!!
  23. andko5
    andko5 April 22 2014 08: 51
    +3
    It's time to move from words to real deeds - isn't it time to return to Cuba, to the Vietnamese bases? Urgently put into operation new Crimean. This will be the "middle" finger.
  24. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 22 2014 08: 56
    +1
    By and large, NATO is not our friend, therefore, the absence of mutual projects with it does not threaten us. Let it slowly live out its century, let it break up quietly.
  25. Svetovod
    Svetovod April 22 2014 08: 58
    0
    "Joint projects between Russia and NATO will not be"
    - and when were they?
  26. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 22 2014 09: 00
    0
    Interestingly, without advanced technology, will this NATO last for long?
  27. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky April 22 2014 09: 00
    0
    I think we will survive somehow! laughing
  28. erased
    erased April 22 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Well, if there are no joint projects, then:
    1. Close the base in Ulyanovsk and stop all work on NATO assistance in Afghanistan.
    2. Withdraw all NATO observers from the territory of the Russian Federation, stop all flights.
    3. Preventively deny the United States the sale of rocket engines for spacecraft.
    4. To provide Syria with information assistance.
    5. As in the song - "... and something else ..."
    The cards are revealed, the masks are ripped off. The owners of the planet go to war in Russia. They are ready to fight and push the States into battle. We must prepare ...
    1. edeligor
      edeligor April 22 2014 09: 29
      +2
      Quote: erased
      The cards are revealed, the masks are ripped off

      I agree to all 100%! Better an old enemy than an incomprehensible friend.
      Quote: erased
      The masters of the planet go to war in Russia

      The gut is thin, they fight only with a minimum of 10 times superiority in all types of support. Yes, and to fight, as someone said above, they have forgotten how. All contactlessly trying, all sorts of drones, robots, and more. If in a day the losses exceed the separation of the soldiers, then the mourning and the destruction of politicians by demopress.
      Quote: erased
      It’s necessary to prepare.

      What we do. Only smart people in the General Staff, thanks to the Ukrainian crisis, where the commas used to put dots.
    2. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 22 2014 13: 51
      0
      [quote = erased] Well, if there are no joint projects, then:
      1. Close the base in Ulyanovsk and stop all work on NATO assistance in Afghanistan.
      2. Withdraw all NATO observers from the territory of the Russian Federation, stop all flights.
      3. Preventively deny the United States the sale of rocket engines for spacecraft.
      4. To provide Syria with information assistance.
      5. As in the song - "... and something else ..."
      The cards are revealed, the masks are torn off. The owners of the planet go to war against Russia. They are ready to fight and push the States into battle. We need to get ready ... [/ quote EXPLAIN TO US GRAY AND STUPID WHERE THE PANCAKE IS Fighting NOW IN RUSSIA EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED THE MILITARY COMPANY IS ANNOUNCED, "DO NOT MIX MY HOOF" AS THIS IS WHERE I AM THERE IS A HEROES IT WILL NOT WORK ALTHOUGH NO WE HAVE SUCH AN EXAMPLE OF INadequacy AND IT IS VERY CLOSE IN UKRAINE
  29. sazhka4
    sazhka4 April 22 2014 09: 29
    0
    Joint projects between Russia and NATO will not be
    What. Have you already been? Elections, Elections .. Deputies pi_dora .. I wonder who "chooses" them?
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  30. propolsky
    propolsky April 22 2014 09: 34
    0
    There is nothing wrong with that. The goals of the countries in this life are different!
  31. xenod55
    xenod55 April 22 2014 09: 46
    +2
    According to some sources, the Russian Federation has already inflicted losses on the "valiant" NATO. After a "demonstration" flight by the SU-24 aircraft (without weapons on pylons, but with an electronic warfare system) of the American frigate "Donald Cook" in the Black Sea. 27 crew members, upon arrival at the port of Romania, submitted a report for cancellation. Because the "sudden" failure of the IJIS system put their precious lives at risk. The moral is this: for every cunning woman ... there is always a vegetable (horseradish) with a screw.
  32. denchik1977
    denchik1977 April 22 2014 09: 52
    +1
    The refusal of NATO to cooperate with Russia will do more damage to the alliance itself.
  33. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 22 2014 09: 53
    +1
    Great news. WE ARE NOT A BANANA REPUBLIC. HAPPINESS AND BLOCKLESS SKY TO YOU RUSSIA! drinks
  34. chastener
    chastener April 22 2014 10: 15
    +4
    And thank God!!)
  35. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 22 2014 10: 22
    0
    Joint projects between Russia and NATO will not be

    But were they? It seems like everything was limited to a base in Ulyanovsk.
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 22 2014 13: 58
      0
      Quote: Wiruz
      But were they? It seems like everything was limited to a base in Ulyanovsk.
      Reply Quote Message

      BEFORE SO WRITING, IT IS NECESSARY TO KNOW EXACTLY THAT THIS IS REALLY A BASE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THERE ARE ASKING KNOW THAT ANYTHING IS NOT A BASIS AND STOP DISCUSSING ON THE INTERNET, THE BASE, READ AS IT IS NOT HERE TO DO IT IS NOT ALL
  36. dimitris
    dimitris April 22 2014 10: 30
    0
    It’s easy to destroy, and it will be difficult to restore. This is the main thing!
  37. annodomene
    annodomene April 22 2014 11: 40
    +2
    Yes and x .. with them!
  38. engineer74
    engineer74 April 22 2014 13: 07
    0
    There is a practice where pilots from non-nuclear countries, for example, Germany or the Netherlands, learn to fly on airplanes that are armed with nuclear weapons in wartime.

    It's time to introduce the same course for the Cubans, Venezuelans and Belarusians ... Then neighing over the reaction of the West. laughing
  39. kelevra
    kelevra April 22 2014 14: 45
    0
    Antonov’s good answer! Let yourself in Europe care about our security and the imaginary threats from Russia.
  40. sv68
    sv68 April 22 2014 16: 37
    +1
    Russia had one option - to bomb Brussels with NATO, but the stupid NATO did not want to participate in this project angry
  41. razved
    razved April 22 2014 21: 55
    0
    The more self-esteem we have, the more they will respect us !!!