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The fight that wrote Wittman in history

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Many who are keen on history World War II, the familiar name of Michael Wittmann - one of the best German tank ases. He can be compared with such famous air aces as Rudel or Pokryshkin, only unlike them he fought on the ground. By June 14, 1944, Wittmann had 138 tanks and 132 guns destroyed, most of which were on the Eastern Front, but the battle that wrote Wittmann in history took place on June 13 in Normandy near the town of Villers-Bocage.




Michael wittman

Wittman was born 22 on April 1914, in Bavaria. From 1934, he was in service in the Wehrmacht, from 1936, in the SS forces. He took part in the most successful blitzkrieg operations against Poland, France and Greece. During the invasion of the USSR, he commanded a platoon of assault guns, from 1943 onwards he was given a platoon of Tigers under his command. On the Tigre, Wittman took part in the battle of Kursk. It was with the help of the tank Tiger Wittmann and his crew managed to achieve such significant victories.

Since the spring of 1944, Wittman served in Normandy, under his command was the 2 Company of the 101 Heavy Tank Battalion as part of the 1 Tank Division Leibstandard SS Adolf Hitler. It was with this company that Wittmann conducted his most famous battle, defeating the 7 British Armored Division, which was nicknamed “Desert Rats” for its successes in Africa, near Willer-Bökaz. In this battle, not only Wittmann's skill, but also the superiority of the German Tiger tank over the armored vehicles of the allies was most clearly manifested. During the transient battle, which took less than half an hour, the Wittman tank destroyed allied 11 tanks, 13 armored personnel carriers and 2 anti-tank guns. Largely thanks to the decisive actions of Michael Wittman, the English breakthrough in the direction of Willer-Bocage was eliminated.
The fight that wrote Wittman in history

Michael Wittman on his tank

Michael Wittmann died in battle on August 8 1944 of the year. His tank was hit from the air by a rocket launched by the Hawker "Typhoon" Mk.1V attack aircraft. The Royal Air Force. The rocket hit the stern of the hull, pierced the left superradiator grille and exploded. The rocket explosion provoked an explosion in the engine compartment and the detonation of ammunition, an explosion with a Tiger blew off the tower, the entire crew of the tank was killed. By the time of his death, Wittmann was a knight of the Knight's Cross with oak leaves and swords. To emphasize the honor of the award, it is worth noting that only 160 people were awarded the Knight's Cross with oak leaves and swords.

Tank Tiger

In all, during the war years in Germany, the 1354 Tiger tank was launched. Without a doubt, he was one of the best heavy tanks of the Second World War. Its layout provided very comfortable conditions for the crew’s work, primarily in combat, and made it possible to accommodate all the internal units quite comfortably. The transmission could be serviced from inside the tank. Along with this, its serious repair required the dismantling of the tower.

On the transmission and controls the tank should be said separately. There was nothing even close to the convenience of the driver at that time, the only exception is the Royal Tiger, which had a similar transmission. Due to the use of an automatic hydraulic servo to control a tank weighing 56 tons, it was not necessary to exert any kind of physical effort. Transmission can be switched literally "with two fingers." The rotation of the tank was carried out by an easy turn of the steering wheel. Controlling the tiger was so simple and convenient that any crew member who did not have special skills could cope with it, which was especially important in combat conditions.

It is not necessary to talk in detail about the armament of this tank. The high performance of its 88-mm KwK 36 guns is well known. One can only emphasize that the quality of the used sights fully corresponded to the remarkable characteristics of the gun itself. Zeiss optics allowed German tankers to hit targets at distances up to 4 km. The characteristics of the 88-mm guns - armor penetration, rate of fire, size and weight indicate that in the 1942 year, the Germans made an absolutely correct choice, providing their heavy tank with superior weaponry for the future.



At the same time, at short distances, the Tigr lost its advantage in armor protection and armament. He could not maneuver intensively. Here, its main drawback was affected - an excessively large mass, which was associated with the irrational arrangement of the armor plates of the hull, as well as the use of a running gear with the use of a chessboard arrangement of rollers.

By placing armor plates with rational inclinations, the designers of the Panthers were able to achieve almost similar to the heavier Tigger protection parameters, significantly reducing the tank mass (by almost 13 tons). Chassis with the use of chess location of rollers had a number of significant advantages - smoothness, less wear rubber bands. But at the same time it was very difficult to operate and produce, and also had a lot of weight. The mass of the Tiger rollers was 7 t., Whereas the Soviet heavy tank IS-2 had this indicator equal to 3,5 t.

Fight at Viller-Bocage

A week after the Allied landings in France, the company under the command of Wittmann was located at an altitude of No. 213 near the town of Ville-Bocage. After a march from the city of Beauvais under continuous allied raids aviation Wittmann's 2nd company suffered losses and included 6 tigers. From June 12 to 13, the company was preparing for battle. The entire 101 heavy battalion was tasked with preventing the British from breaking into the flank and rear of the Training Tank Division, as well as keeping the road to Caen under control.

At around 8 in the morning on 13 June, Wittmann noticed a column of English armored vehicles moving along the road near Willer-Bocage, about 150-200 meters from his position. Wittman did not have all the combat information, he only outlined the situation in this sector of the front. As spellbound, he watched a convoy of Cromwell and Sherman, moving accompanied by armored personnel carriers Bren Carrier towards Caen. Before Wittmann was the vanguard of the famous British division "Desert Rats." Wittman radioed the battalion headquarters, reported on the situation and requested reinforcements. However, he did not passively observe what was happening and decided to attack the column alone. He understood that under normal conditions he would not have a single chance. Under all the laws of war, with a simple balance of forces, his attack looked like a sophisticated way of suicide.

After the battle, Wittman said: “It was very difficult to decide on the attack. Never before have I been so impressed with the power of my opponents as when I was watching the column of armored vehicles going to Kahn. And yet I decided to attack. "

One of the Cromwells destroyed in Willer-Bocage

Wittman started his masked Tiger with the number 205, but he had a problem with the engine. Then he quickly moved into the car under the number 212, gave the rest of the company’s tanks an order to hold positions, and he himself moved towards the convoy. Having approached 100 meters with her, he opened fire and with the first two shots he destroyed Sherman and Cromwell at the head of the column, then he set fire to the tank in her tail, thereby eliminating the rest. After that, he transferred the fire to armored personnel carriers in the center. Wittman destroyed everything that appeared in his area of ​​visibility. Attacking the fixed targets, he sent a projectile behind the projectile at tanks and armored personnel carriers almost at close range, from the shortest distances, and at the end rammed Cromwell's tank in the side, which blocked his entrance to the city.

Wittman sent his tank to the center of Willer-Bocage, where he also destroyed the 3 tank of the headquarters group of the 4 regiment of the 22 armor reggae, one tank of this group survived, as the driver had taken it from the street to the garden in time. The tank was not able to open fire, the gunner at that time was out of the car. The commander of one of the Shermans, 30-year-old Stan Lockwood, hearing the shooting that had started in the city, moved towards the battle. In 200 meters ahead of him, he found Tiger of Wittman, who stood by him and ran a quick fire along one of the streets. Lockwood's gunner managed to fire four shells on Tigger. One of them tore the tank track. The Germans returned fire did not make them wait, with their shots the crew of the Tigris brought down half of the building on Sherman, plunging the battlefield into clouds of dust. Wittman continued to fire from the immobilized tank, destroying everything that appeared in his area of ​​visibility. In the end, he destroyed the fourth Cromwell staff group of the 4 regiment. Picking up a gunner, he decided to attack the Tiger from behind, but in the end was hit. After some time, Wittmann and his crew had to leave the padded car and walk away from the city. Wittman believed that he would come back and take his tank.

So in the end it happened. By evening, the Germans fully occupied Viller-Bocage. On the outskirts of the city and on its streets, the British lost 25 tanks, 14 semi-tracked armored personnel carriers M9A1 and 14 armored personnel carriers Bren Carrier, as well as hundreds of soldiers. The German 101 heavy tank battalion lost the capture of the 6 town of Tiger precious tanks, but it frightened the British so much that they were very careful many weeks later and almost did not attack the city.

Sources used:
www.tankfront.ru/snipers/deutschland/wittmann_michael.html
www.reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1770
www.blefru.narod.ru/tank/pz6h/pz64.htm
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    1. Borders
      Borders 12 May 2018 16: 53
      +7
      alas ... as a "bug" did not work out - 26 million will not let you lie (((
  2. Эндрю
    Эндрю 3 May 2011 15: 46
    +3
    There was a film on the "discovery", there they took apart Vitman's death. According to the filmmakers, Whitman died from an ambush by Canadian tank crews. Where is the truth?
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  4. Michael
    Michael 3 May 2011 18: 56
    +11
    SS,
    Kill, well, at least about the crying wall.
  5. Victor
    Victor 3 May 2011 23: 18
    +9
    SS, Who are you? Novodvorskaya?
  6. datur
    datur 3 May 2011 23: 56
    +4
    Wittmann was certainly a noble pepper, but our Germans were given a good nibble. And our allies, there was one battle in the ardennes.
    1. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 10: 17
      +3
      Quote: datur
      one battle in the ardennes of which stood.

      The battle in the Khurtgen forest is even more interesting - the 4th, 8th, 9th, 28th infantry divisions and the 3rd tank division of the U.S. Army for 3 months banged their heads against the German defense wall without any advancement, while the 3rd Panzer and 9th Infantry divisions lost up to 80 % of the personnel, and in some combat units of these divisions, losses reached almost 200%.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 12 May 2018 12: 58
        +5
        Quote: Rakti-Kali
        and in some combat divisions of these divisions, losses reached almost 200%.

        This is interesting ... HOW 200%!? belay
        Did the Germans destroy the Anglo-Saxon reserves that didn’t even approach the battlefield? bully
        Well, tady, OH!
        1. Rakti-kali
          Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 13: 24
          +7
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          This is interesting ... HOW 200%!?

          Easy! Initially, for example, there are 150 people in a company, a company suffers losses then replenishes, and so several times, as a result, with an initial number of 150 people, a company loses 250 people and 20-30 people remain in its composition by the end of the battle.
          Not without reason after the battle in the Khurtgen forest the emblem of the 28th division (the red trapezoid with the lower base down) was called the "bucket of blood", so many Pennsylvania Guardsmen then lay down in the deep forest. By the way, 28 divisions were very “lucky” after that - after the defeat in the Khurtgen forest, they took her out to rest in the Ardennes, just before the German offensive.
          Still stupid questions will be?
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 12 May 2018 15: 31
            +9
            Quote: Rakti-Kali
            Still stupid questions will be?

            Questions can be different: you are the only one smart on the site!
            Nevertheless, there are standards in which the connection is displayed for reformation. A replenishment l / s is an everyday process, and does not exceed 200%. I would still be able to understand your “smarts,” if you were talking about marching companies, there were up to + 40% l / s. And so - come on, bullshit. And there is nothing to dress up in mathematics: you cannot destroy the same payroll twice, any mobist will tell you that.
            But.
            1. Rakti-kali
              Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 18: 13
              +6
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Nevertheless, there are standards in which the connection is displayed for reformation. A replenishment l / s is a daily process, and in no way exceeding 200%

              PPC ... That is, when a company commander, an American, writes that having started a battle with a company of 160 people, he lost almost 300 people in a couple of months, is he lying?
              1. Alex
                Alex 15 May 2018 16: 51
                0
                Quote: Rakti-Kali
                That is, when a company commander, an American, writes that having started a battle with a company in 160, he lost almost 300 people in a couple of months, does he lie?
                Well, Americans have never been seen in fanatical devotion to truth, so liberty in dealing with numbers for them is nothing.
                Quote: Rakti-Kali
                Initially, in a company such as a 150 man, a company suffers losses and then replenishes, and so several times, in the end, with an initial 150 number, a company loses an 250 person and in its composition by the end of the battle, the 20-30 person remains.
                If the unit suffered such a serious loss, then AFTER the battle it is taken out for replenishment / re-formation, or in the course of the battle it is simply replaced with another, combat-ready one. There are no reinforcements during the battle itself. So the loss of double the number for a couple of MONTHS - is understandable.
        2. Huumi
          Huumi 12 May 2018 14: 10
          +3
          Replenishment arrived, reinforcements were knocked out
    2. Huumi
      Huumi 12 May 2018 14: 09
      +5
      You can also recall other battles ... Where ours just as retreated as the Americans in the Ardennes, take at least Kharkov. All retreat if necessary
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 18: 16
        +1
        Quote: Huumi
        You can also recall other battles ... Where ours just as retreated as the Americans in the Ardennes, take at least Kharkov. All retreat if necessary

        And who is arguing? The Americans are generally quite good fighters, and they didn’t have the courage, because even with such terrible losses as in Hurtgen or the Ardennes, they continued to fight.
    3. Gopnik
      Gopnik 14 May 2018 12: 07
      0
      So the Allies won the battle of Arden, what's wrong with them?
    4. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 16 May 2018 21: 09
      0
      Wittmann with this battle is far from our Kolobanov
  7. Cesar_Xnumx
    Cesar_Xnumx 3 June 2012 03: 46
    +16
    Your opponents must be respected. Wittman was a great tanker!
    1. wecher75
      wecher75 25 July 2013 16: 35
      +26
      As for respect, I agree. Although Wittmann is a pretty PR person. Our Kolobanov also shot a German column on the outskirts of Leningrad, but didn’t the film about him remove the film ??
    2. Sma11
      Sma11 12 May 2018 08: 46
      +7
      Quote: Cesar_001
      Your opponents must be respected. Wittman was a great tanker!

    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 12 May 2018 13: 06
      +9
      Quote: Cesar_001
      Wittman was a great tanker!

      It is Wittmann who holds the record for the range of defeat of the T-34 from a distance of 1800m.
      And ours had to get close to 400-500m in order to break through the armor of the Tiger. They washed themselves with blood ...
      And yet, WE WIN! Glory to our grandfather tankers!
      1. tred
        tred 12 May 2018 13: 17
        +3
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        WE WON!!!

        What battles did you personally take part in? Or more on the couch "win"?
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 May 2018 16: 39
          +14
          Quote: tred
          What battles did you personally take part in?

          The son of a dog, a female breed! Especially for you: Angola, 1987, there is a medal "For Military Merit".
          Now - sorry if you're a man, of course ...
          1. tred
            tred 12 May 2018 16: 47
            +2
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Especially for you: Angola, 1987, the medal "For Military Merit" is available.

            Why should I be interested in Angola?
            1987 fits into the interval between 22.06.1941/08.05.1945/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX?
            What are you giving me here, son?
            He defeated the Nazis, damn it.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 12 May 2018 17: 08
              +11
              Quote: tred
              What are you giving me here, son?

              Are you sure 85 years old to call me "son"?
              Quote: tred
              He defeated the Nazis, damn it.
              And I do not separate myself from my grandfathers. Both fought, and yet, yes, they defeated the Nazis ... And it’s your turn, certainly! yes
              1. tred
                tred 12 May 2018 17: 40
                +2
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                And I do not separate myself from my grandfathers.

                And it would be necessary. There is nothing to cling to other people's affairs. One must be proud of oneself. If they are.
                1. faiver
                  faiver 12 May 2018 17: 47
                  +14
                  his mouth would have closed, or rather he would have dumped unfinished trollins from here to far ...
                  1. tred
                    tred 12 May 2018 19: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: faiver
                    mouth would shut

                    You? Would close, of course.
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 12 May 2018 21: 38
                      +6
                      Quote: tred
                      You? Would close, of course.

                      Troll! You appeared on the site today - it would be nice for you to die today. am That's for sure: "Sorry no cons"! yes
                    2. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 13 May 2018 13: 31
                      +2
                      You just appeared on the site and begin to build yourself a pro in front of a truly professional. Go over the boa constrictor's comments. Learn a lot of interesting things, for the Navy in particular. He is one of the site’s old-timers, comments on empty as you do not write.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 13 May 2018 13: 34
                        +3
                        Alexei, you are talking to the hundredth, probably the reincarnation of a certain Carbine. Moreover, with already banned reincarnation laughing
        2. Huumi
          Huumi 16 May 2018 12: 48
          0
          And what was he supposed to participate in? -Do not write stupid answers-by the year 43, the T-34 made its way through all types of anti-tank missiles at distances of up to 2 km. Read the memories and interviews of those who fought near Kursk. There they filled us with a drain that Malinkov drove an investigation by Stalin’s order .How could you destroy so many tanks? Zhukov on the edge of the field stood obscenely yelling as much
      2. Alf
        Alf 13 May 2018 23: 02
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        It is Wittmann who holds the record for the range of defeat of the T-34 from a distance of 1800m.

        And at what distance could the Tiger hit the T-70? Write also, at what distance did the Tiger hit the IS-2?
        1. Huumi
          Huumi 16 May 2018 12: 51
          0
          yes, with any one, he pierced the 75 frontal IS-2. The ISs were sent for the first time to attack, but as it should be with us — no artillery preparation or reconnaissance — so they sent — no one came back — everyone burned the flasks 88. When you take Sapun mountains, the veteran will be umpterated like that but our scenario allowed up to hundreds of tanks to the mountain — they didn’t reach the foot of the mountain — they all burned down and, as he said, I saw it myself!
  8. kov
    kov 19 September 2012 13: 35
    0
    Entirely about Wittmann -

  9. kopar
    kopar 19 December 2012 13: 22
    +3
    He’s an experienced, tough enemy. He knew how to fight. But he wouldn’t know how, they wouldn’t have crushed to the walls of Moscow .....
  10. rune
    rune 10 November 2015 10: 26
    +13
    This is history. What, Lavrinenko, Kalobanov, Wittman, Karius - they all fought bravely. Each completed his task and each had "his own war". A worthy opponent must be treated with respect.
  11. Head Physician
    Head Physician 29 October 2017 20: 11
    +19
    Turkey hunting
    Lucky "hero"
  12. Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 May 2018 08: 19
    +2
    in 1942 the Germans made the right choice
    No, it’s wrong: they released a scanty amount of even good, but expensive and slow-moving tanks.

    And ours broke through the defense, went around and left them in the rear.
    Without fuel and shells could only throw useless pieces of iron ......
    1. Sma11
      Sma11 12 May 2018 09: 06
      +3
      The Germans once again failed Ordnung muss sein. They created and produced excellent equipment and weapons, which were repaired in specialized workshops and plant conditions. Our equipment is in the field with a crowbar, a sledgehammer, with the help of some kind of mother and fart steam.
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 12 May 2018 09: 51
        +3
        If they had a hundred times better cars, they would still be bits. Not the German armed forces lost the war, but the political leadership and the German Foreign Ministry.
        1. tred
          tred 12 May 2018 10: 37
          +4
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          Not the German armed forces lost the war, but the political leadership and the German Foreign Ministry.

          100%. You can’t trample against the Anglo-Saxons. And arguing, the result is known.
  13. bubalik
    bubalik 12 May 2018 09: 02
    +14
    Vitman was of course a notable pepper, but our Germans were also given a light cigarette


    ,,,
    Using this circumstance, Dmitry Sholokhov destroyed the 24 tank in a row. Thus, taking into account the tank lined at the very beginning of the battle, Sholokhov destroyed 25 German tanks that day. ,,
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 12 May 2018 09: 35
      +13
      In June, 1942 Mr. Senior Lieutenant Vladimir Khazov was instructed to stop a column of German tanks near the village of Olkhovatka. Having reached the specified area, we decided to act from the shelter. The young officer believed that the main weapon was surprise, and he did not lose. Three Soviet T-34s were able to smash the 27 of German combat vehicles. Numerical superiority did not allow the enemy to emerge victorious from this battle, and the full force of Khazov’s platoon returned to the battalion location.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 12 May 2018 09: 58
        +9
        Dmitry Zakrevsky (deputy commander of the 24-th separate reconnaissance battalion of the 3-second tank corps.), Not only hijacked German tanks, but also shot down aircraft belay good



        1. bubalik
          bubalik 12 May 2018 10: 19
          +7
          ,,,interesting what Does this fact fall under the category "Poisoned Feather"?
      2. bubalik
        bubalik 12 May 2018 16: 23
        +8
        ,,, and Voronin PM, as he fought on the "Sherman", based on the submission to the GSS ?! The plot of the film "Rage" is weak ,,, No.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 13 May 2018 13: 34
          +4
          Sergey, so post an article about the battles of our tankers. And then some from Wittmann write boiling water, but they don’t know anything about ours.
  14. BAI
    BAI 12 May 2018 09: 22
    +5
    Now an article from 11 years. Is there any failure or no material?
    1. Curious
      Curious 12 May 2018 12: 22
      +4
      With material is a disaster.
  15. Curious
    Curious 12 May 2018 09: 27
    +17
    It's amazing how you can write such a weak article with so much material. Even Wikipedia is better written.
    World fame came to Wittmann already posthumously, at the end of the 50s, at the height of the Cold War, when the USSR again became an adversary. Here such figures were needed. In addition, German veteran organizations became more active at the same time, and a series of attempts to create a positive image of the Waffen SS by laundering from war crimes began. They claimed that they simply did their duty, and transferred all responsibility to the "political wing of the SS."
    As for the described battle, almost all of his moments are debatable, starting from the amount of equipment he personally had knocked down to before he died.
    In short, it is better to read the Norwegian historian Jon Ryudne - https://inosmi.ru/history/20180420/242031646.html
    .
    And at Wittmann’s grave at the German military cemetery of La Cambes in France, almost always fresh flowers. I saw it myself. And not only from the Germans. British and American veterans are constantly there.
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 12 May 2018 09: 32
    +1
    Only gloomy Teutons are capable, skillfully and courageously fighting and gaining brilliant tactical successes, to lose battle after battle.
    1. tred
      tred 12 May 2018 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      lose battle after battle.

      The peculiarity of the preparation of the officer corps of Germany.
      The Germans had practically no good commanders. Although there were plenty of good commanders, especially grassroots.
      After all, all these "great" Guderians, Leeba and other Boki simply failed the 1941 company. Moreover, on its own initiative, because of its own mediocrity. And since it was the key company of the "campaign to the East," then the whole Eastern company, too.
      Separately, it should be noted the brilliant corps of staff officers in Germany. That's where the Germans were strong, so it's in the staff business.
      By the way, the headquarters and combat service in the Wehrmacht, as in the Russian army, were divided. But in the Red Army and the SA, no. Therefore, full-fledged staff officers were never there. With all the ensuing consequences.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 12 May 2018 13: 41
        +15
        Quote: tred
        After all, all these "great" Guderians, Leeba and other Boki simply failed 1941. Moreover, on its own initiative, because of its own mediocrity.

        Sir! You are a rare nerd !!!
        1. In the 39-40 years, these German commanders were beyond praise. One Dunkirk is worth it! And they simply went around the Maginot line ... And everything was brilliant!
        2. But when they stumbled onto the territory of the USSR, they suddenly became mediocre “doomkopfs”. Maybe the thing is that the Russian soldier stood to his death, and not like a guardian pulled his hands uphill when he saw a tank avalanche in front of him ...
        3. The attempt to blame everything on the military is a tricky move by recent politicians to whitewash / justify the political leadership of fascist Germany, which was secretly supported ...
        4. About headquarters schools. Well, yes, Colonel Marx drew Barbaross’s plan ... and that’s brilliant! And our “suckers are nasty” under the leadership of Shaposhnikov created absurdities like “Uranus”, “Bagration” and others like them ... But it was on these plans that the Wehrmacht was driven into the coffin along with their headquarters and the Fuhrer ...
        So, no credit! No.
        1. tred
          tred 12 May 2018 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Sir! You are a rare nerd !!!

          Are you writing while looking at yourself in the mirror?
          Because:
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          In 39-40 years, these German commanders were beyond praise. One Dunkirk is worth it! And they simply went around the Maginot line ... And everything was brilliant!

          This is the "work" of staff officers. And I just wrote about it. But you, unfortunately, did not understand.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          But when they stumbled onto the territory of the USSR, they suddenly became mediocre “doomkopfs”.

          They didn’t, but they have always been. And not staff officers, but combatant.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Maybe the thing is that the Russian soldier stood to death

          Look how many prisoners were taken by the Germans in 1941.
          The role of the Red Army in the failure of the summer company on the Eastern Front, of course, was. But she was not so significant. The main thing here was the "activity" of the German combatant "commanders." Each of whom sought to win, one more wonderful than the other.
          Yes, and one more thing. The action of the Barbarossa plan was canceled on July 11.07.1941, 2. This was the beginning of their end. Because from that moment, the Wehrmacht from the army turned into .... uh ... an incomprehensible armed structure operating on the basis of directive planning. Those. without a far-reaching plan. For the whole XNUMX months. And these months were key.
          11.09.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, the Wehrmacht was again turned into an army. But time was lost forever.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          and not like a guardian, he pulled his hands uphill when he saw a tank avalanche in front of him ...

          The French did not lose 42 million people in that war. They have something to envy.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          And our "fuckers nasty" under the leadership of Shaposhnikov created absurdities like "Uranus", "Bagration" and others like them ... But, it was on these plans that they drove the Wehrmacht into the coffin along with their headquarters and the Fuhrer ...

          1. Shaposhnikov in May 1942, due to unsuitability, did not engage in staff work. You at least learn the basics of military history for decency.
          2. Do not forget to calculate the military losses of the parties. Then you will understand the true price of all these "brilliant military plans."
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 12 May 2018 16: 24
            +13
            Quote: tred
            tred

            Sir! Yes, you are not just a nerd, but also a brazen liar slanderer! Moreover, he contradicts himself in various posts, who has not completely decided on whom to blame for the failure of the blitzkrieg!
            1. A lot has been written about the causes of the defeats of 41. I think I’ll not reveal anything new to you. But, Moscow - did not take, Peter - did not take, Stalingrad - did not take ...
            2. About the French. They could not lose 42 million, because the population of all was 41,3 million people. If you give us our losses, then they are monstrous - 26 million 642 thousand people. of which only 8,6 million are combatants, and the rest is civilians.
            3.
            The role of the Red Army in the failure of the summer company on the Eastern Front, of course, was. But she was not so significant.
            Yeah, these Anglo-Saxons lay down with bundles of grenades under the tracks of German tanks! And how does your language turn to say that !?
            4.
            Since May 1942, Shaposhnikov did not engage in staff work due to his unsuitability.
            you are a crap liar !!!
            Boris Mikhailovich was at the post of the National High School of the Red Army at the most difficult time, and thanks to his intelligence and energy, the "brain of the army" functioned smoothly and efficiently ... He himself was named by Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich ...
            And here’s V. Molotov’s assessment: “Marshal Shaposhnikov is a good man. Stalin treated him well. He is from the tsar’s officers. ... He did not break politics. He was strong in his work.” (1978g.)
            Marshal of the Soviet Union, twice Hero of the Soviet Union A.M. Vasilevsky: “We were destined to work together for a long time. Few people have had such a strong influence on me and gave me as much as he. The name of this extraordinary person is inextricably linked with the heroic history of our Armed Forces whose construction he devoted twenty-seven years to his life as a talented military theorist and publicist, scholar of exceptional erudition, whose profound generalizations in the field of military strategy and operational art were known not only in Co etskom Union, but also abroad. " And this is an assessment of the military commander who replaced him as Chief of the General Staff!
            Until the end of the war, Boris Mikhailovich remained a member of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command (from July 1941 to February 1945). He is the only Marshal of the Soviet Union who dropped out of the armed forces of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (due to death from illness). What kind of aptitude are you raving about?
            Even the trolls do not encroach on the memory of the heroes, but this is not about you - you are a warrior who disguised as a decent brow, and in your heart you are a POLICEMAN! And your worldview is a policeman! Judging by the fact that without a flag on the site, you are scum outside my homeland. am
            Therefore - "pooh on you again!" (with).
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                  1. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 12 May 2018 23: 41
                    +5
                    [quote = tred] tred [/ quote]
                    Troll, I followed the link provided by you ... I read it, I was numb ... Then I think: and below there is a footnote - Source. Klatsnul on the "source" - and lo and behold! The original source on the Parliamentary hearings (on the Immortal regiment), but in the FIRST SOURCE - not a word about the losses, there are no those terrifying numbers 19 + 23 million dead !!!
                    Then the question: AND WHO HANGED them in the text of your link !? If I remember exactly the statement of the leadership of the country after the end of the work of the Yakovlev Commission, that the final figure is 26mln 642 thousand people and it is not subject to revision.
                    But here comes For example, a publicist, literary critic, literary critic and historian, doctor of philological sciences, candidate of historical sciences Boris Sokolov, who estimated the total human losses of the USSR in 1939 — 1945 years in 43,448 million people, and the total number of deaths in the Soviet Armed Forces in 1941 — 1945 in 26,4 of millions of people (of which 4 of millions of people died in captivity) ./quote] It’s more obvious to the publicist!
                    But that is not all. At the 14.04 hearings. 2018 State Duma deputy Nikolai Zemtsov, co-chairman of the Immortal Regiment of Russia movement (also from critics, producers, businessmen, documentaries
                    Comrade) presented the report “The documentary basis of the People’s project“ Establishing the Fates of Missing Defenders of the Fatherland ”... So in it - The total population decline of the USSR in 1941-1945 years - more than 52 million 812 thousand people, - said Zemtsov, citing on declassified data of the State Planning Commission of the USSR. - Of these, irretrievable losses as a result of the action of war factors are more than 19 million troops and about 23 million civilians.
                    However, the USSR State Planning Commission did not take into account the personal data of military personnel ... But for some reason we are obliged to believe him. But the head of the Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to perpetuate the memory of those who died during the defense of the Fatherland, Vladimir Popov, who is engaged in this business on duty, cannot be trusted! for it relies "on the wrong documents" [quote] "The irretrievable losses of the troops and forces of the army and navy amounted to almost 12 million soldiers. Missing and captured 4,5 million people, from the captivity returned 1,8 million. From occupied Soviet territories 5,3 million people were forcibly stolen for work, of which 2,2 million died, "the head of the Russian delegation said.

                    "The total irretrievable human losses of the country - military personnel and civilians - amounted to 26,6 million people," Popov summed up. [/ Quote] http://www.interfax.ru/russia/47907
                    0.
                    Therefore, those who do not believe in god-given information are suckers who do not support the new whistleblowers of the bloody Stalinist regime.
                    That's the whole short stay!
                  2. Rakti-kali
                    Rakti-kali 13 May 2018 00: 53
                    +4
                    Quote: tred
                    For more than a year now, as the new figures of the losses of the USSR in WW2 are unveiled

                    I have no bad habit of believing any hen written on the fence, unlike you.
                    Quote: tred
                    Learn.

                    -those. "Learn." I don’t allow any chmyrenysh to go to "you".
          2. albert
            albert 12 May 2018 22: 32
            +3
            Quote: tred
            The French did not lose 42 million people in that war. They have something to envy.

            And what is not 42 billion? Liberasty completely drunk?
  17. tred
    tred 12 May 2018 10: 34
    +3
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    During the war years in Germany, 1354 Tiger tanks were produced.

    1354 tanks of the PzKpfw VIE Tiger I model. And another 489 tanks of the PzKpfw VIB Tiger II model with which they are often confused.
    In fact, these are tanks of different concepts. But they were used almost always in the same way as heavy tanks.
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    Without a doubt, he was one of the best heavy tanks of the Second World War.

    Although the PzKpfw VIE Tiger I was used as a heavy tank, it was in fact a representative of the outdated pre-war concept of “penetration tanks”. And the best 2MV heavy tank was without a doubt the PzKpfw VIB Tiger II.
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    It is not necessary to talk in detail about the armament of this tank. The high performance of its 88-mm KwK 36 guns is well known. One can only emphasize that the quality of the used sights fully corresponded to the remarkable characteristics of the gun itself. Zeiss optics allowed German tankers to hit targets at distances up to 4 km. The characteristics of the 88-mm guns - armor penetration, rate of fire, size and weight indicate that in the 1942 year, the Germans made an absolutely correct choice, providing their heavy tank with superior weaponry for the future.

    Another fable of Runet.
    The trashy (simply ancient at its core) gun was without a doubt the weak point of the PzKpfw VIE “Tiger I”. Yes, she had an excellent OS, but her armor penetration was below all criticism.
    Of course, in comparison with the Soviet 85 mm bundles, she was good.
    But its armor penetration was only 90% of the 75 mm KwW 42 level.
    Only 91% of the UK level is 76 mm "77 mm".
    Only 83% of the level of a very mediocre American 90 mm M3.
    Only 61% of the 88 mm KwK 43 level.
    And as much as 114% of the level of Soviet 85 mm guns.
    It is no wonder that in 1944 the Germans sent this “masterpiece” to a landfill, replacing it with KwK 43. By the way, they began to put 85 mm guns on Soviet tanks in 1944 as well (148 KV-85 and 67 IS- 1 small-scale 1943 does not count). Feel the difference in the level of weapons.
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    as well as the use of a chassis using a chessboard arrangement of rollers.

    In fact, such a chassis was one of the advantages of the PzKpfw VIE Tiger I tank. And not at all its flaw.
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    whereas the Soviet heavy tank IS-2

    It is very correctly indicated that the IS-2 is a "Soviet heavy tank." Since, in fact, this BTT tank is not even in principle. What is very clearly visible in the composition of its weapons (not only in the cannon). In fact, this is a tower SPG support. It was built in a targeted way to support the T-34/85 (the Soviet ones had their own, special tactics of using BTT because of the weakness and backwardness of the mattekhbaza).
    Quote: Yuferev Sergey
    Fight at Viller-Bocage

    In fact, this battle is very reminiscent of the "feat" of Kolabanov. Only Wittmann was more difficult (at the second stage, already in the town), the Americans, unlike the Kolabanovsky Germans, could maneuver. But they could not hit PzKpfw VIE “Tiger I” in exactly the same way as the Germans could not hit Kolabanovsky KV-1. There was nothing.
    By the way, KV-1 was the Soviet representative of the same pre-war concept of "breakthrough tanks." They tried to convert it into a heavy tank KV-1C, but it turned out unsuccessfully.
    1. andrey-ivanov
      andrey-ivanov 12 May 2018 13: 54
      +7
      Well, point by point ...
      1) Tiger VIH & B and the Soviet Is-2 are representatives of different concepts of using such machines on the battlefield. The Germans designed their own with an eye to anti-tank capabilities, and the Is-2 was built as a means of breaking through a heavily fortified enemy defensive zone and its anti-tank capabilities were not in the first place. But, in the end, the IS turned out to be a more versatile and efficient machine than the "super-duper" "King Tiger". In which, if there was anything outstanding, it was only the ballistics of the gun and the frontal armor. All other characteristics of the last tiger were poor.
      2) A chassis with a chessboard arrangement of rollers was an advantage right up to the moment of its breakdown, and from that moment it became a “nakzanie of God" for those who repaired it. And the resource of the leading stars and tracks of the “Royal Tiger”, according to reports (according to the results of tests of captured models) owls. specialists amounted to only 350 km. Alas ... Yes, and the "Panther" engine for such a hippo was clearly too small.
      3) The KWK 43 gun as a means of combating armored vehicles was really distinguished by outstanding characteristics of armor penetration and accuracy. But, the 88mm caliber projectile is clearly inferior to the 122mm projectile of the IS-2 gun in terms of its impact on the target, it is not important that this target is armored or simply flooded with concrete and reinforcement. Therefore, taking your attempt to call IS-2
      tower self-propelled guns
      , you can just as well call the Tiger VIB tank a "self-propelled anti-tank self-propelled artillery with a rotating turret and enhanced armor." And in order to cross an outstanding gun and an armored tracked chassis, the Germans had to create such 60-ton monsters as self-propelled guns Ferdinand / Elephant and Tiger VIB. Famous for disgusting reliability, insane problems during transportation and repair, as well as labor and metal consumption in production and, as a result, prohibitive cost. So, by the combination of characteristics, Tiger VIB was a large (in all senses of the word) misunderstanding.
      4) The tactics of using tanks in the 44-45 years of the Red Army really differed from the German one. But not because of the backwardness of the Mehtekhbaza, but simply because of the fact that the Red Army was advancing, and it was not defending itself. And we learned this tactic from the Germans themselves, because they used it in offensives at the beginning of the war. But backwardness can be called the fact that the Germans never mastered the method of semi-automatic welding of armored hulls of tanks and until the last cooked by hand with the appropriate performance.
      1. tred
        tred 12 May 2018 18: 11
        0
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        Tiger VIH & B and the Soviet Is-2 are representatives of different concepts of using such machines on the battlefield.

        About these three different types of BTT wrote above. I will not repeat myself. In short.
        IS-2 is not a tank, but a self-propelled guns support. Tower. This is evident in the composition and location of its weapons. As well as the nature of the application. There were also logging. In terms of performance characteristics, the IS-2s were very slightly different from the ISU-122. Therefore, it was not necessary to build IS-2, it was necessary to increase the production of ISU-122.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        and from that very moment it became the “naxation of God" for those who repaired it.

        Do not exaggerate the problem. And try to count how many lives the Germans saved such a suspension.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        But, the 88mm caliber projectile is clearly inferior to the 122mm projectile of the IS-2 gun in terms of the power of impact on the target, it is not important that this target is armored or simply flooded with concrete and reinforcement

        You are joking?
        The penetration resistance of the 88 mm KwK 43 gun was 125% of the 122 mm D-25T level.
        With regard to fragmentation, for the BTT fragmentation of 88 mm shell was enough with a large margin. A fragmentation of 122 mm shell was simply not needed. She was redundant, because tanks and self-propelled guns do not hit bunkers and bunkers. And not the "area". And the enemy’s artillery calculations. "From a gun on sparrows." This is just about the IS-2 guns.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        Therefore, taking your attempt to call IS-2
        tower self-propelled guns

        In fact, if we start from the IS-2 armament, it is precisely the support self-propelled guns. Tower. But the tower is not a sign of a tank. The Germans also had reckless tanks.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        So, by the combination of characteristics, Tiger VIB was a large (in all senses of the word) misunderstanding.

        Judging by how many enemy tanks they shot, you are very mistaken.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        But not because of the backwardness of the Mehtekhbaza, but simply because of the fact that the Red Army was advancing, and it was not defending itself. And we learned this tactic from the Germans themselves, because they used it in offensives at the beginning of the war.

        And this is nonsense. The offensive of the Red Army and the advance of the Wehrmacht differed radically. That's just it.
        In addition, the Red Army switched to the "attacking ligaments" back in 1942. Rather, it made an attempt to transfer. But in fact, already at the beginning of 1943. Work on this began in mid-1942.
        Quote: andrey-ivanov
        But backwardness can be called the fact that the Germans never mastered the method of semi-automatic welding of armored hulls of tanks and until the last cooked by hand with the appropriate performance.

        To hear about the "technologically backward Germans" is not just funny, but very funny.
        1. andrey-ivanov
          andrey-ivanov 14 May 2018 13: 45
          +1
          [quote] This is evident in the composition and location of its weapons. As well as the nature of the application. There were also logging. In terms of performance characteristics, the IS-2s were very slightly different from the ISU-122. Therefore, it was not necessary to build IS-2, it was necessary to increase the production of ISU-122 [/ quote]
          It is interesting, but how does the composition (other than the caliber of the gun) and, especially, the LOCATION of the armament of these vehicles differ?
          [quote] Do not exaggerate the problem. And try to count how many lives the Germans saved such a suspension. [/ Quote]
          But the problem is not exaggerated. From the word in general. To replace the damaged roller from the inner row with the Tiger VIH, it was necessary to dismantle 5-7 rollers of the outer and middle rows. In winter, dirt filled between the rollers and froze, after which the car simply did not move. About the fuss of transport and combat tracks in general, you can not mention.
          And how did the suspension protect the lives of German tankers?

          [quote] Judging by how many enemy tanks they shot, you are very wrong [/ quote]
          This confirms that after the 43rd year the Germans built not so much tanks as [quote] self-propelled anti-tank self-propelled guns with a rotating turret and reinforced armor. "/ Quote] laughing in BC which most of them were armor-piercing shells. Yes, and how much tankers shot yet another question, there were many times more artillery combat vehicles.
          [quote] The Germans had crazy tanks. [/ quote] Yeah? belay Serial? Name at least one plizz?
          [quote] With regard to fragmentation, for the BTT fragmentation of 88 mm shell was enough with a large margin. A fragmentation of 122 mm shell was simply not needed. She was redundant, because tanks and self-propelled guns do not hit bunkers and bunkers. And not the "area". And the enemy’s artillery calculations. "From a gun on sparrows." This is just about the IS-2 guns. [/ Quote]
          A high-explosive action? And what then do you think is affecting tanks and self-propelled guns on the battlefield if not long-term fortifications, enemy armored vehicles and anti-tank guns? Exclusively infantry with a fragmentation shell?

          [quote] According to the performance characteristics of the IS-2 were very slightly different from the ISU-122. Therefore, it was not necessary to build IS-2, it was necessary to increase the production of ISU-122. [/ quote]
          Sitting on the couch and leafing through guides, you can, of course, make such a conclusion. Thank God that in the Union the generals and designers of equipment not only sat on the sofas, but there would be no such models as the IS-2, 3 and T-10 in the end.
    2. Alf
      Alf 13 May 2018 23: 08
      +3
      Quote: tred
      It is very correctly indicated that the IS-2 is a "Soviet heavy tank." Since, in fact, this BTT tank is not even in principle.

      Hi Carbine! It’s not about you that you don’t drown?
  18. snau2013
    snau2013 12 May 2018 10: 57
    +5
    It is written about this fascist as if he were a hero. People who you write about whom. He is an enemy who killed our citizens of our relatives in our country. Sergey Yufereev is simply a traitor !!!!!!!!!
    1. Curious
      Curious 12 May 2018 11: 14
      +10
      It is written, albeit very mediocre, about what kind of enemy they had to fight with, so that the couch warriors and snotty uriapatriots at least remotely imagine what war is.
    2. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 12 May 2018 11: 26
      0
      All enmity ends at the time of the conclusion of peace.
  19. bubalik
    bubalik 12 May 2018 12: 43
    +9
    One against 15.
    12 August 1944 tank crew guard Junior Lieutenant Alexander Oskin on T 34-85, entered into battle with the 15 "Royal Tigers".

    ,,,only a few minutes had passed, and three tanks, considered invulnerable, were burning on the battlefield. The rest - turned back. On the same day, in the battle for Ogleduv, Oskin's crew captured three new and operational "Royal Tigers",,,



    1. bubalik
      bubalik 20 May 2018 09: 51
      0
      Tank T-34-85 Guard Junior Lieutenant A.P. Oskina and tank assault troops in the village of Oglenduv surrounded by Polish women and children.
  20. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 12 May 2018 12: 48
    0
    After some time, Wittmann and his crew had to leave the wrecked car and leave the city on foot. Wittman believed that he would come back and take his tank.
    So in the end it happened. By evening, the Germans completely occupied Ville-Bocage.

    Did he leave him whole?
  21. Tomato
    Tomato 12 May 2018 13: 01
    +2
    Sadly, Wittmann is not an accident, a natural result.
    I read the memoirs of a German soldier. He was simply amazed at the level of training of ordinary infantrymen. I’m not even talking about shooting, tactical exercises. Each was trained to drive a light tank. Of course, at the initial level.
    How to teach ours, you can also read. There is an excellent resource "I remember," the memoirs of war veterans.
    1. Alf
      Alf 13 May 2018 23: 10
      +1
      Quote: Tomatoes
      Each was trained to drive a light tank.

      And nothing is written about planes there?
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 13 May 2018 23: 18
        0
        That book is not written. You have other information, share.
        1. Alf
          Alf 13 May 2018 23: 20
          +1
          It was necessary at the same time and the ship to learn to drive, suddenly come in handy.
          No infantry commander would ever dream of teaching a soldier how to drive a tank.
          1. Tomato
            Tomato 13 May 2018 23: 39
            0
            I see you are a little silly. I said read.
            2. In the training unit, the commander will perform what is recorded in the program.
            And here is the book: Guy Sayer "The Last Soldier of the 3rd Reich."
            Sometimes it’s useful to read, not just slap keys.
            1. Alf
              Alf 14 May 2018 00: 05
              +1
              Quote: Tomatoes
              I see you are a little silly

              Judging by itself is not worth it.
              Quote: Tomatoes
              . I said read.

              Quote: Tomatoes
              And here is the book: Guy Sayer "The Last Soldier of the 3rd Reich."

              Paper can stand it.
              Reliability Problem [edit | edit code]
              Historians have expressed doubts about the credibility of Sayer's book, pointing out inaccuracies in the names of military units, the mismatch between the names of officers and the Wehrmacht archives, some plot inconsistencies (see, in particular: Edwin L. Kennedy, Jr., “The Forgotten Soldier: Fiction or Fact ? ”// Army History, no. 22 (Spring 1992): 23-25). From the point of view of the supporters of such a revision, Sayer's book should be considered not so much a memoir as a historical novel with real prototypes.

              Ie nonsense.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 May 2018 00: 24
                +1
                Quote: Alf
                Ie nonsense

                Alf, already explain to the young man where he came from good
                In a funny way ... two trolls clashed, one Russian, and one not ... can I applaud at least? laughing
              2. Tomato
                Tomato 14 May 2018 08: 35
                0
                Yes, that’s understandable. Who knows better; direct participant or sofa expert? There is no doubt about it.
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 12 May 2018 13: 21
    +6
    Wittmann was born on April 22, 1914 in Bavaria. Since 1934 he was in the service in the Wehrmacht, since 1936 in the SS troops
    .
    By June 14, 1944, Wittmann had 138 tanks and 132 guns destroyed, most of which were on the Eastern Front
    Amazing! The paving of Red Square from the tracks of the head T-34-85 at the Victory Parade has not yet “cooled down”, but on a site that positions itself as a patriotic engaged in popularization, even with shades of heroism of an SS officer! sad
    1. Tomato
      Tomato 12 May 2018 16: 53
      +5
      Can you tell me how you can study history, completely ignoring the presence of a second side?
  23. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 12 May 2018 14: 26
    +3
    It can be compared with such famous air aces as Rudel or Pokryshkin,

    At what plan? Three times not the correct phrase!

    Tank Tiger

    Those. it's about the Tiger, then where does it:
    By arranging the armor plates with rational inclinations, the Panther designers were able to achieve almost the same security parameters as the heavier Tiger, while significantly reducing the tank’s weight (almost 13 tons).


    How spellbound he watched the column

    Hmm, Lev Nikolaevich also described the experiences of Natasha Rostova at the ball ... perhaps this will help us understand the "greatness of the feat"?

    In the end, he destroyed the fourth Cromwell headquarters of the 4th Regiment. Having picked up a gunner, he decided to attack the Tiger from behind, but in the end he was hit.

    Excuse me, who was standing on whom? (C)

    The German 101st heavy tank battalion lost 6 Tiger precious tanks when they took the town

    For whom are precious? Yakhontovy you are ours.

    but at the same time he frightened the British so much that they were still very careful many weeks later and hardly attacked the city.

    Because they were a little pregnant with fear!


    Quote: Curious
    With material is a disaster.

    Worse!
  24. Radikal
    Radikal 12 May 2018 18: 43
    +2
    Quote: Tomatoes
    Can you tell me how you can study history, completely ignoring the presence of a second side?

    As I understand it, do you propose to study it by heroizing the SS man? sad
  25. cedar
    cedar 12 May 2018 18: 52
    +5
    How many Wittmanns found a grave under birch crosses on Russian soil, thanks to the heroism of ordinary Russian people who became soldiers in a formidable hour for the fatherland, their feat is immortal.

    "... Maybe Paulus in the days of encirclement and defeat remembered August 1942, when his advanced units approached Stalingrad.
    Then the tanks of the 14-tank corps of General Gustav von Withersheim approached from the north to the city. On the way of the German tanks were three batteries of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment - 37 guns with calculations from young girls volunteers and a battalion of the working militia of the Stalingrad Tractor Plant. Parts of the 62nd Army had not yet had time to retreat to the city and fought on the Don, retreating to Stalingrad. Female anti-aircraft gunners were not trained to fight with tanks, but rolled out guns for direct fire and accepted the battle. Withersheim threw aviation into battle. Anti-aircraft gunners did not shoot at planes - they saved shells for fighting with German tanks, continuing to repel German attacks. From August 23 to 24, they knocked out and burned 83 tanks and destroyed up to three infantry battalions. The forces were unequal. Almost all anti-aircraft gunners perished, and militia workers perished. Gustav von Withersheim, having examined the bodies of killed anti-aircraft gunners and workers in civilian clothes with rifles in their hands on the battlefield, went to the 6th Army commander Friedrich Paulus and began to convince him not to go to Stalingrad, warning that his capture would lead, if not to defeat, to war, then to the colossal losses of the Wehrmacht. Paulus regarded the statements of von Withersheim as a manifestation of cowardice and removed him from command of the corps.
    And on January 25, 1943, units of our 21st Army broke into Stalingrad from the west and the next day in the Mamayev area of ​​the mound they joined the 62nd Army. As early as January 31, Field Marshal of the Third Reich Friedrich von Paulus surrendered in the basement of the Stalingrad Department Store Lieutenant Ilchenko with his headquarters.
    The entire staff of the headquarters of the 6th German army was captured, including the chief of staff, Lieutenant General A. Schmidt, commander of the Southern Group of Forces, Major General F. Rosske. A total of 24 Wehrmacht generals — commanders of corps and divisions of the 6th Army, 2 officers and 500 German soldiers — were taken prisoner in Stalingrad.
    The battle of Stalingrad lasted 200 days. In the Stalingrad boiler, 22 selected, best Wehrmacht divisions were surrounded, completely destroyed and captured - 330 soldiers and officers. In total, during this unprecedented battle, the center of which was Stalingrad, Germany and its allies lost more than 000 million soldiers and officers. In addition to the German famous 1,5th field army and 6th tank, the 4rd and 3th Romanian and 4th Italian armies, the 8nd Hungarian army, and several operational groups of the German forces were completely defeated. The losses of the Romanians amounted to 2 thousand killed and missing. In the 159th Italian army killed 8 thousand soldiers and officers, and almost 44 thousand surrendered. The 50nd Hungarian army of 2 thousand soldiers lost only 200 thousand killed
    In total, 32 German divisions and 3 brigades were completely destroyed during the battle, 16 divisions were defeated. This was a quarter of the troops of the Third Reich.
    In Germany, state mourning was declared these days, black mourning flags were hung on the streets of German cities. For the first time, the Nibelungs began to suspect that in Russia they were confronted with a force that could break their mighty Teutonic sword and crush the millennial Third Reich. "
    The NATO "Nibelungs" have thoroughly cleared their brains and they are again preparing to repeat the Wittmann’s exploits ...
    But now Russia will beat the Wittmanns in the land of Wittmanns ...
  26. hohol95
    hohol95 13 May 2018 14: 55
    +1
    Dear author! why didn’t you bring Michael’s exploits committed to StuG III in the article?
    For example, they did not indicate the epic battle of the StuG III assault gun under the command of Wittman on July 12, 1941, near the town of Sokolov, northwest of Zhytomyr.
    “Aim at the clearance, Blade!” Attention, he can appear at any time! ”
    The blade pressed his forehead against the rubber pad of the sight. In the telescopic sight appeared a gap between the trees. Then he saw the trunk of the KB-1 gun, behind it - the frontal leaf and, finally, the mighty tower. He hesitated a little, adjusting his scope slightly. Then Clink pressed the shot button. The echo of the powerful gun’s shot and the crushing blow of the shell on the armor almost merged. The shell hit KV-1 in the joint between the hull and the tower, ripping the tower off the tank. A heavy tower thundered to the ground, and the mouth of a long-barreled gun buried itself in soft soil.
    After a few seconds, two surviving crew members jumped out of the tank. From somewhere, he had a machine gun pointed out. Tankers disappeared from sight. Soon the remains of KV-1 were engulfed in flames.

    Witman’s crew reported 6 of 18 Soviet tanks destroyed, while “managed” to shoot down the KV-1 turret with its 75 mm short-barreled gun.
    Wittman was approaching Soviet tanks from the flank. Soon they were four hundred meters away. One of the Soviet tanks set up stern for him. An armor-piercing shell pierced the engine compartment of an enemy tank. Gas flared with a whitish flame. Soon the tank was engulfed in fire.

    Giving such details of the burning of Soviet heavy tanks, the Germans forgot that they were refueling with SOLAR! Diesel fuel, as you know, does not burn with a whitish flame. So the battle went with the T-26 or BT-2/5/7!
    And you didn’t describe such a feat !!! Poorly! One StuG III yes 6 KV-1 destroy! It was then he on the Tiger that the enemy tanks snapped like nuts, and in this battle he and his crew had to sweat pretty ...
    1. andrey-ivanov
      andrey-ivanov 14 May 2018 13: 55
      +2
      Oh, and how many “Wittmanns”, “Hartmanns”, “Rudels” and other Gunters-Fritz-Hans-Maxes and Michels, who did not have time to write memoirs about their “heroic” exploits, remained rotting on fertilizers in Russian soil under simple birch crosses. .. And it’s not a pity. drinks For the victory, men! For those ordinary guys who didn’t keep accounts of the wrecked tanks, but simply crushed the filth with a tarpaulin boot.
  27. NF68
    NF68 13 May 2018 20: 15
    +1
    There is no need to speak in detail about the armament of this tank. The high efficiency of its 88-mm KwK 36 guns is well known. It can only be emphasized that the quality of the sights used was fully consistent with the remarkable characteristics of the gun itself. Zeiss optics allowed German tankers to achieve hits on targets at distances up to 4 km.


    At a distance of 4 km. the Germans could only get into a large stationary target in the likeness of a large building or a large area object.

    The characteristics of the 88-mm guns - armor penetration, rate of fire, dimensions and mass indicate that in the 1942 year the Germans made the absolutely right choice, ensuring their heavy tank superiority in armament in the future.


    In this case, the weight of the "Tiger" was far beyond 50 tons. A VK-3002 tank with a rear MTO could, having a weight of not more than 35-37 tons, have better reservations by installing oblique frontal parts of the hull and turret and the armament is no worse than that of the Tiger and be much more mobile even in case of if the Germans had not succeeded in setting up the production of Dimer-Benz diesel engines of the MV-507 type with a power of 750 hp. Deformed to 600 hp. at 2500 rpm gasoline HL-230 for VK-3002 would be quite enough. The Tiger alone had problems with military and transport tracks, which were worth it. Plus, expensive in the manufacture and repair of a chess pendant.



    And the Germans could obviously have riveted such tanks more than the Tigers. And if you had already made the epaulettes diameter in advance allowing without much structural changes to install the significantly more powerful 8,8 cm KWK-36 instead of the 8,8 cm KWK-43, even if by increasing the weight of the tank tons to 38-40, then this would be much more dangerous for any enemy tanks than the usual "Tiger".
  28. aakvit
    aakvit 14 May 2018 00: 56
    +3
    Guys! Victory Day is holy!
    Why didn't Wittman continue to fight against the AC? Bo - would die!
    And against the US column - why not !? Not against the soldiers, but the fate of Private Ryan next to 7 of mine, my cousins, remained THERE - zero!
  29. aakvit
    aakvit 14 May 2018 01: 00
    +1
    Sorry for the mistakes; after a stroke, I’m not always friends with the keys
    Yours faithfully,
    aakvit
    1. Alf
      Alf 14 May 2018 20: 38
      0
      Quote: aakvit
      Sorry for the mistakes; after a stroke, I’m not always friends with the keys
      Yours faithfully,
      aakvit

      Everything is fine, return to duty faster.
  30. Catfish
    Catfish 15 May 2018 00: 12
    +2
    Quote: aakvit
    Sorry for the mistakes; after a stroke, I’m not always friends with the keys
    Yours faithfully,
    aakvit


    Hi Andrew!
    I was shocked by a stroke 20 years ago. I recovered literally in a year and in all respects. And everything will be fine with you, I’m sure, because I went through it myself. The main thing is to be sure that it is not stronger than a cold and believe in yourself. Good luck wink

    And according to Wittmann ... He is a brave man and a talented officer, it is a pity that he was our enemy. And such articles as this one are certainly needed, the enemy must be known and understand what he is capable of. But more needs to be written about ours. We also had many brave and talented officers. I read the comments here - so the guys are full of material! Why doesn’t anyone write their article, and even with the documents? Yuferov simply scolding for allegedly "glorifying the SS man", writing something his own is much more difficult. It's a pity... hi
  31. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 8 August 2018 13: 36
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: Cesar_001
    Wittman was a great tanker!

    It is Wittmann who holds the record for the range of defeat of the T-34 from a distance of 1800m.
    And ours had to get close to 400-500m in order to break through the armor of the Tiger. They washed themselves with blood ...
    And yet, WE WIN! Glory to our grandfather tankers!

    About 50 years ago, I still asked my uncle, a tactician, what was he most proud of from his war? He replied: "I knocked out a duel" Panther! While I got to her, she hit me twice, shot the tower, but not to die, but then I slammed six shells into it! "It was from spring 42nd to Vienna, burned four times and 11 months of hospitals - hardly lied ...