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The lessons of "modern" diplomacy for Russia on the Ukrainian example

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Any negotiations concerning the post-Soviet space are in the key when creating the greenhouse conditions for the expansion of NATO, US interests to the east, and the agreements signed during their negotiations are absolutely nothing on the agenda. This is a simple formula that has worked twice in Ukraine alone over the past two months. The first time was when President Viktor Yanukovych in the presence of three ministers- "guarantors" of the EU countries at once signed the so-called February agreements. As you know, right after Yanukovych put his signature on the document, and the hottest phase began on the Maidan, which ended with a coup d'état.


The second time - last week - when the Quartet gathered in Geneva, discussed ways of resolving the situation, agreed that the squares and streets of the cities of Ukraine should be liberated, and unconstitutional armed formations should be disarmed.

The lessons of "modern" diplomacy for Russia on the Ukrainian example


Immediately after the meeting of the Quartet (Russia, the USA, the EU and Ukraine), the armed forces (pravoseki and other national guardsmen) explicitly assassinated Kiev, which in turn advised overseas “partners” (the visit of the CIA director Brennan did not go unnoticed) decided to disarm whether the formation of the southeast. At the same time, of course, having forgotten that the document also implies their (associates) disarmament, too. We checked it once ... We checked it a second time ... The result was blood: the dead and wounded in Slavyansk, a new escalation in the whole Donbas, in other regions of the south and south-east of Ukraine. Apparently, having signed those same Geneva agreements, Kiev decided that now it was people in jeeps, with machine guns, noise and not only noise grants, who received a mandate to “inspect” the southeast. And the OSCE does not count ...

And when the OSCE is not counted, an episode from a recent storieswhen the “missionaries” of this organization, who arrived as observers of the elections in the USA, were not even allowed to go to the polling stations. Today’s handwriting in Ukraine is very similar, although there is still more than a month before the elections. Whose hand still writes? ..

The “official” Kiev, his puppeteers from the West, were initially invited to Geneva as a kind of holy fool, through which it would be possible to conduct precisely the policy of interest to the United States. Kiev so made a fool and made. As soon as the information about the agreement was circulated through news agencies, the Ukrainian “authorities” began to issue such comments to the Geneva accords that it seemed that these people were just raving. The Ukrainian Foreign Minister, who was present in Geneva (he calls himself that way; the minister says I) Andrei Deshchytsa said that all squares and streets should be vacated except for the Kiev Maidan, because the Maidan is occupied by people on certain legal grounds ... Ms. Tymoshenko (the leader of the “Batkivschyna”) and issued at all that in Geneva it was decided to withdraw Russian troops from the east of Ukraine. Truly holy fools. Such as the West needs at this particular moment in Ukraine, but only at this particular moment ... Then, there is an opinion, cleansing is expected ... At least the prerequisites of these “purges”, more precisely - episodes of selective political filtering, manifest themselves now: right away several congressmen whom Tymoshenko’s candidate planned to meet during her trip to the States did not confirm their agreement to such a meeting. Filter - failed ...

So, what happens? And it turns out that participation in any agreements with the West on issues of today's Ukraine is nothing more than participation. The West clearly demonstrates that it is ready to multiply by zero absolutely any agreement in which there is even a hint of taking into account the interests of anyone other than the West itself. It was clear to write down the southeastern agreement to the Geneva Agreement, Russian troops take the Kiev bad "power" out of the Urals - to recognize, "it was impossible, but apparently the West scrolled this thought hundreds of times in its cranial box , even before signing the agreements, he convinced himself that it was precisely this that he was able to achieve in Geneva from Russia. Once again, a variant of political self-hypnosis has been triggered, which is also going to be extrapolated to other countries and territories, when the desired is more than frankly passed off as real.

What should Russia do now, if new “Geneva” and others like it will be announced for the near future with the participation of the delegation of the Russian Federation. Refuse to participate at all? No, you can not refuse now. After all, it is not unusual for Russia to expect precisely self-exclusion from the discussion, so that later through the world media it will trumpet what Russia is supposedly wild and boil in its own juice. We all understand that there really is no discussion, that “discussion” is only a beautiful cover for those decisions that are being pushed through by “partners”, but at the same time,. if we begin to understand this, then it is impossible not to take advantage of it. As an option - to gather, “debate”, “negotiate”, but at the same time, calmly (as the West itself teaches) to bend its line, using the possibilities of the media, public platforms and institutions to demonstrate this line, to promote its interests.

At the same time, it is necessary to stop rounding our eyes in cases where our interests are trying, as already said, to multiply by zero, to push into the background. You just need to get used to it (and Russia seems to be getting used to it), and gently - by the corner of your foot, looking at the sky and whistling a light melody - moving this most West-prepared zero towards its own (Western) interests. This method of modern “diplomacy” that “partners” are trying to implement in our respect should be used. If this is a “diplomatic” lesson in the understanding of the United States for Russia, then American “friends” should not forget that we learn the lessons, draw conclusions ...
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  1. ALTAY2
    ALTAY2 April 22 2014 07: 29
    +75
    I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen April 22 2014 07: 35
      +37
      Quote: ALTAY2
      I am amazed at the patience of our politicians. I would have already passed to the mats


      That's for sure, I remember even Khrushchev gave nerves laughing
      1. their
        their April 22 2014 08: 32
        +15
        here is Khrushchev at the UN

        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 41
          -1
          Quote: sus
          here is Khrushchev at the UN

          my goddess ... what a misery!

          and it was the head of the USSR? belay
          1. Akulina
            Akulina April 22 2014 14: 45
            +5
            Well, why are you like this ... By the way, they flew into space with him, the first .. They raised Tselin ... The Caribbean crisis has resolved, he too. And by the way, the Americans even liked him - they wrote that he was very cute, simple.
            1. VAF
              VAF April 22 2014 16: 04
              +11
              Quote: Akulina
              Well why are you so


              Exactly!!! In 1961, the brand new Mig-17s ... pressed with a corn tractor ..... hang a little !!! soldier
              1. Afinogen
                Afinogen April 22 2014 18: 25
                +22
                Quote: vaf
                Exactly!!! In 1961, the brand new Mig-17s ... pressed with a corn tractor ..... hang a little !!


                And the Crimea. Yes, beyond the Crimea it must be crushed with a corn tractor itself.
            2. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx April 22 2014 18: 14
              +19
              Quote: Akulina
              By the way, they flew into space with him,

              recall when Korolev began to work?
              Quote: Akulina
              Virgin soil raised

              raised a lot?
              Quote: Akulina
              The Caribbean crisis has resolved, he too.

              but who organized the Caribbean crisis?
              Quote: Akulina
              And by the way, the Americans even liked him - they wrote that he was very cute, simple.

              so they liked Yeltsin, which is significant ...

              and lastly: who gave Crimea to Ukraine?
              who sowed whole black soil instead of wheat with corn?

              Khrushchev, in my opinion, is the first traitor to the Union ... and his hunchbacked worthy heirs ...
              1. Akulina
                Akulina April 22 2014 18: 22
                0
                I give up ....
                But at least he didn’t ruin the country ...
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx April 22 2014 18: 38
                  +4
                  Quote: Akulina
                  But at least he didn’t ruin the country ...

                  can he still say "thank you" for that? request
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                3. samoletil18
                  samoletil18 April 22 2014 19: 37
                  +6
                  Quote: Akulina
                  But at least he didn’t ruin the country ...
                  Brezhnev drove during, and so ...
                4. Coffee_time
                  Coffee_time April 22 2014 19: 40
                  +11
                  how tired they are already
                5. izGOI
                  izGOI April 23 2014 05: 57
                  +1
                  And he has not yet appropriated to Nicholas II the Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously) for the revolutionary situation created in 1917
              2. albolo
                albolo April 23 2014 22: 18
                +1
                What is the difference when Korolev started working? In the forces of Khrushchev, it was all to cover. But it was under Khrushchev that we flew into space! And they mastered the atom !!! And they raised the virgin lands. And they fed people. And in the USSR there was never a famine again. And the United States created the Caribbean crisis when they deployed their missiles in Turkey. Just Khrushchev answered equivalently. And he did the right thing! And corn is a good thing in the south. And in the middle lane it gives a good harvest, like fodder for cattle. This is a plus!
                Well, and, of course, there are cons! For me, he has more minuses. This is about the crazy reduction of the army. especially artillery, aviation and navy. This and his economic councils are rural and urban. And most importantly - the drain of Stalin! Here is a good example and a lesson for us - China! Almost all of Mao Dzedong’s legacy was abandoned, but he himself was not humiliated, not cheated. His portrait is still in the main square of Beijing !!!
                1. Berkut-UA
                  Berkut-UA April 24 2014 00: 38
                  0
                  Quote: albolo
                  ... And the United States created the Caribbean crisis when they deployed their missiles in Turkey. Just Khrushchev answered equivalently. And he did the right thing! ...


                  So maybe it's time to answer symmetrically now?
                  And at the same time, at every step, blame the states for unleashing World War 3
            3. dalekiy
              dalekiy April 22 2014 19: 16
              +6
              Simple such, I gave Crimea. Quite simple. A humpback is also a shirt-guy, Germany united for no reason, surrendered everything. And they patted Yeltsin like that. Cool such guys, simple. And most importantly - Americans like it.
            4. DAEDALUS
              DAEDALUS April 22 2014 22: 14
              +1
              I would not say that simple, even if he may have pretended to be such, but he nevertheless came to power.
            5. luka095
              luka095 April 23 2014 00: 47
              0
              Of course, with him, but this is not his merit. But with the virgin soil is not so simple.
          2. luka095
            luka095 April 23 2014 00: 46
            0
            Khrushchev came to power in a coup. But in this case, he is just good - well, no one spoke at the UN then as emotionally and essentially correctly as in this example. This is the fifties and not the current time.
          3. ALTAY2
            ALTAY2 April 24 2014 15: 21
            0
            this squalor had these yankees
        2. radar1967
          radar1967 April 22 2014 14: 46
          +6
          Typical Ukrainian. Too rude and emotional. Continuous feelings, in Ukrainian, in a feminine way. Well, he told everything about his intentions ... Oh, how much intelligence is needed to embroil us with the whole world and squeeze the whole Crimea on the quiet.
          And about the killing on Easter:
          Most likely, the infantry of the Right Sector was ordered to carry out an unloading check with a SHOOTING, and indicatively. That there were corpses on both sides, and that the "separatists" themselves started talking about the shootout. The type confirmed that they were not armed. Therefore, a sniper worked at the post and that is why the Pravosek people did not escape from the crime scene. They were either forbidden, or deceived with the promise of help, in short, they substituted their own.
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          2. Stalker
            Stalker April 22 2014 15: 48
            +3
            New chemical weapon "Viagra-gas"! Spray it over the battlefield
            and enemy soldiers cannot move crawling! laughing
      2. comprochikos
        comprochikos April 22 2014 09: 30
        +8
        Quote: Athenogen
        I am amazed at the patience of our politicians. I would have already passed to the mats

        Yes, it’s not that you’ll go to the mats, here you’d like to go to the snout and to bang your ears with a boot angry
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      4. Zeus
        Zeus April 22 2014 11: 34
        +9
        Khrushchev is an uneducated bumpkin and boor. What else to take from him?
      5. luka095
        luka095 April 23 2014 00: 40
        0
        For reference: he did not knock a shoe. This is a duck. And installation.
    2. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs April 22 2014 07: 36
      +43
      On mats, you say? .. heh ... Then you want to spit saliva and beat your face. It’s good that we are not there, but Lavrov and Churkin.
      1. dalekiy
        dalekiy April 22 2014 19: 18
        +1
        Yes, you can admire them.
        1. gandalf
          gandalf April 22 2014 20: 27
          +2
          And what they do is not immediately clear ...
          Here is one of the opinions
          1. Vlad.K.S.
            Vlad.K.S. April 23 2014 18: 59
            0
            Thank. Absolutely intelligible. I, for Russia.
      2. The point
        The point April 23 2014 13: 24
        +1
        Quote: kolyhalovs
        It’s good that we are not there, but Lavrov and Churkin

        Nails would make of these people-
        It would not be stronger in the world of nails! good
    3. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 22 2014 07: 45
      +42
      Quote: ALTAY2
      I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.

      So our politicians have already crossed that line when you can get angry and stomp your feet, they just go there as the heads of a psychiatric clinic.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 22 2014 08: 22
        +22
        Quote: ZU-23

        Quote: ALTAY2
        I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.

        So our politicians have already crossed that line when you can get angry and stomp your feet, they just go there as the heads of a psychiatric clinic.

        Rather, as doctors on the bypass, and Lavrov as head physician.
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        2. ZU-23
          ZU-23 April 22 2014 09: 05
          +2
          Quote: Canep
          Rather, as doctors on the bypass, and Lavrov as head physician

          Yeah, I wanted to say so, but not always something happens smile
      2. I do not care
        I do not care April 22 2014 10: 16
        +24
        Quote: ZU-23

        So our politicians have already crossed that line when you can get angry and stomp your feet, they just go there as the heads of a psychiatric clinic.

        was already, but again in the subject laughing
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    5. Validator
      Validator April 22 2014 08: 17
      +41
      These understand only Kalashnikov’s diplomacy.
      1. comprochikos
        comprochikos April 22 2014 09: 36
        +7
        Oppa, and this is where such a movie, or rather a circus what
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      3. dalekiy
        dalekiy April 22 2014 19: 20
        +1
        No, they must be ridiculed. These are pygmies. Clowns.
      4. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik April 23 2014 16: 56
        +1
        Quote: Validator
        These understand only Kalashnikov’s diplomacy.

        That's better!
    6. armageddon
      armageddon April 22 2014 08: 22
      +1
      there will still be roofing felts but we will break through Russia !!!
    7. armageddon
      armageddon April 22 2014 08: 22
      -1
      there will still be roofing felts but we will break through Russia !!!
    8. mejik
      mejik April 22 2014 08: 33
      +35
      Quote: ALTAY2
      I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.


      well for this we have specially trained people

    9. kotyara
      kotyara April 22 2014 10: 00
      +4
      Why on mats for sanctions! We have Sanitary Inspection which is steeper than atomic weapons for some!
    10. demon184
      demon184 April 22 2014 12: 40
      +3
      We need to talk with these cheaters only when we free the southeast and for now there is not even a topic.
    11. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 22 2014 13: 35
      0
      Quote: ALTAY2
      I would have already switched to mats.

      It's time to move on by reading such an investigation:
      Crimea was supposed to become American: proven
      http://pavel-shipilin.livejournal.com/266161.html
    12. Ross
      Ross April 22 2014 15: 13
      +6
      And here is an interesting statement by Pastor Turchinov about citizens of Ukrainians:
      1. izGOI
        izGOI April 23 2014 06: 04
        0
        If this is true, but it must be replicated by all available means throughout Ukraine, especially western.
    13. orsker
      orsker April 22 2014 17: 36
      +2
      Awesome photo! Lavrov smokes after another stick amerskuyu racket ...
      1. aagolovkov
        aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 30
        0
        he doesn’t protect himself, doesn’t protect himself - smoking is harmful
    14. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 22 2014 19: 37
      +1
      Quote: ALTAY2
      I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.

      and I would be on the machines ...
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    19. SHURAVI
      SHURAVI April 23 2014 10: 21
      0
      And I would not only put all the mats in a heap on a carry, but I would kill him, as well as the daughter at the same time
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 April 22 2014 07: 30
    +7
    The West is becoming incapacitated, the whole world sees it and draws conclusions.
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 April 22 2014 07: 54
      +14
      Yes, the world does not see anything, sees what they show and say to him, and besides, it does not want to delve into it. Only those who have begun to lose something from this fuss are trying to find out the true reasons. And so - the INFORMATION MACHINE works (west). Our MACHINE doesn’t have enough horses.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov April 22 2014 08: 11
        +8
        Quote: klaus16
        Yes, the world does not see anything, sees what they show and say to him, and besides, it does not want to delve into it. Only those who have begun to lose something from this fuss are trying to find out the true reasons. And so - the INFORMATION MACHINE works (west). Our MACHINE doesn’t have enough horses.

        Our propaganda machine worked perfectly, all independent countries adhere to a pro-Russian view! In Ukraine, even with the help of the CIA, they could not win the info war, the shutdown of our channels is a confirmation! Europe is also protected only by shutdowns and prohibitions! And despite the opposition of the Western authorities, more and more appear reporting on what really happens!
        1. klaus16
          klaus16 April 22 2014 08: 31
          +4
          Okay, I agree. The world sees more and more truth. But this does not change much. America continues to do what it sees fit. So we also need to do what is in our interests. I cannot advise, but the operation "Crimea" is set off !!!!
          1. comprochikos
            comprochikos April 22 2014 09: 43
            +3
            It's time to do something for someone you love. All these "Geneva" do not give anything, complete window dressing. Lavrov conducts all these snotty parties, simply conscientiously observing formality and political restraint. But this circus and fraud cannot go on forever
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 51
              +5
              Quote: comprochikos
              Lavrov conducts all these snotty parties, simply conscientiously observing the formality and political restraint. But this circus and fraud cannot go on forever

              Lavrov is not there to convey his position to the United States or Europe, they are already in the know ...
              he is there to bring her to the journalistic pool ...

              and yet, I do not agree with the article in the sense that one should not make surprised eyes ...
              It’s not necessary to be surprised, but you need to do your eyes, and at the same time shake your signed paper with a righteous misunderstanding ...
              than in general, Lavrov is engaged ... here is an agreement from February 21 already jammed up holes wink
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      2. olegglin
        olegglin April 22 2014 08: 40
        +2
        Yes, the world does not see anything, sees what they show and say to him, and besides, it does not want to delve into it. Only those who have begun to lose something from this fuss are trying to find out the true reasons. And so - the INFORMATION MACHINE works (west). Our MACHINE doesn’t have enough horses.



        Previously, to look at how slaves kill each other, plebs and patricians flocked to Rome, but now you can watch everything on CNN and show your finger up or down using Internet voting and TV ratings. And the Colosseum has acquired the scale of entire countries.
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    3. Fin
      Fin April 22 2014 10: 13
      +4
      Quote: Igor39
      The West is becoming incapacitated, the whole world sees it and draws conclusions.

      Insanity only grows stronger there, urgently to the hospital:
      Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland believes that the protesters who seized the buildings in Kiev have all the necessary permissions, in particular from the authorities. She stated this on April 20 in an interview with the American television company CNN.
      "You cannot compare the situation in Kiev, where everything that is still held by the protesters is held in accordance with licenses, with the permission of the government, in agreement with the Rada, or in the presence of an agreement with the owners of the buildings, with what is happening in Eastern Ukraine," says Nuland.

      I think soon the Foreign Ministry will respond to this nonsense or Churkin.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 52
        +2
        Quote: Fin
        I think soon the Foreign Ministry will respond to this nonsense or Churkin.

        when they laugh laughing
    4. aagolovkov
      aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 31
      0
      .... but I wonder what, and most importantly, where?
  3. Same lech
    Same lech April 22 2014 07: 32
    +12
    the agreements signed during their course mean absolutely nothing. This is a simple formula that has worked twice in the past two months in Ukraine alone.


    The West considers all agreements with us as not binding promises and easily refuses them when it sees our weakness ... in no case should you believe all agreements with the WEST in words or on paper.

    A sad example ... when this promise to Gorbachev not to move NATO east and an agreement on a no-fly zone with LIVIA did not end well for RUSSIA .. NATO's troops at our borders, the UN Security Council lost all credibility as a responsible organization that keeps its word.

    Now in the world there is a policy of force and not international law and the WEST will clearly adhere to this .... until it gets too tough.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 April 22 2014 09: 12
      +9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The West considers all agreements with us as non-binding

      Lavrov West: "How you got me!"
      1. Vadim12
        Vadim12 April 22 2014 09: 37
        +3
        I wonder what cigarettes smokes? wink
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred April 22 2014 09: 55
          +3
          Quote: Vadim12
          I wonder what cigarettes smokes? wink

          Good! We do not smoke such request
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 56
            +9
            Quote: shuhartred
            Good! We do not smoke such

            smoking and envy kill ...
            1. shuhartred
              shuhartred April 22 2014 13: 49
              +8
              Quote: DanaF1
              smoking and envy kill ...

              Life is a fatal disease. Or do you want to live forever (R. Heinlein "Star Rangers")
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx April 22 2014 14: 35
                +2
                Quote: shuhartred
                Or do you want to live forever (R. Heinlein "Star Rangers")

                not forever but as long as possible wink
        2. Rebus
          Rebus April 22 2014 10: 18
          +9
          Quote: Vadim12
          I wonder what cigarettes smokes?

          Probably the same wink :
          1. W1950
            W1950 April 22 2014 12: 49
            +5
            Stalin smoked Herzegovina Flor cigarettes.
            1. Rebus
              Rebus April 22 2014 13: 48
              +5
              Quote: W1950
              Stalin smoked Herzegovina Flor cigarettes.

              Not so important cigarettes, cigarettes or a pipe. Such people and smoking make an element of politics.
              About Lavrov found:
              Lavrov became famous for his conflict with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan on a curious occasion: smoker Lavrov did not want to obey the requirements of Annan, who tried to impose a ban on smoking at the headquarters of the world organization in New York. Lavrov simply ignored him. “This house belongs to all UN members,” Lavrov objected to Annan, “and his general secretary is just a manager.” This implacable position, in all likelihood, aroused the respect of the UN Secretary General, who, upon learning of Lavrov’s appointment as Russian Foreign Minister, issued a special statement in which he “with great respect” spoke of his professionalism. http://www.km.ru/news/lavrov/dossier

              And there is nothing to say about Stalin, it is simply impossible to imagine him without a pipe or cigarette (by the way, in addition to "Herzegovina flora", he sometimes smoked "Kazbek")

              PS Perhaps Lavrov also smokes Herzegovina Flora, but only cigarettes ...
              1. Dimy4
                Dimy4 April 22 2014 19: 48
                +4
                Lavrov did not want to obey the requirements of Annan

                Lavrov diplomatically sent him to ... apchi .. oh! Our person!
            2. sso-xnumx
              sso-xnumx April 22 2014 15: 10
              +5
              By the way, colleagues, an interesting analogy is I. Stalin, F. Roosevelt, W. Churchill - all smokers and do not shy away from alcohol. Winners.
              A. Hitler, B. Mussolini, Emperor Hirohito - did not smoke or drink alcohol. Losers.
              Apparently there is some kind of connection.
          2. dimdimich71
            dimdimich71 April 22 2014 14: 11
            +4
            Herzegovina Flor-eh ...... where are they now ....
        3. rolik
          rolik April 22 2014 13: 42
          0
          Quote: Vadim12
          I wonder what cigarettes smokes?

          "Parliament" - and the smoke of the fatherland is pleasant))))))
        4. izGOI
          izGOI April 23 2014 06: 12
          +1
          Yes, ordinary. Until I was a minister, I used to smoke what ordinary people smoke. And when I became a minister, I didn’t want to break the habit of the usual brand. This is how I, as a smoker with long experience, speak.
          By the way: the "NEWS" cigarettes, which Brezhnev smoked, could be bought by a mere mortal at a kiosk on the territory of the Kremlin. I bought it myself, though more out of curiosity (I then liked the Bulgarian Inter)
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      3. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 55
        +3
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Lavrov West: "How you got me!"

        there recently and Shoigu connected to trolling ...
        Today, the Moscow Defense Ministry has already stated that in the case of the use of combat dolphins in the Black Sea, they will be captured and retrained ...

        why not remember Georgian hammers with electronics? wink
        1. Akulina
          Akulina April 22 2014 18: 44
          +2
          NATO's Black Sea dolphins will not serve. They are smart and cunning guys, besides patriots. As soon as they are released, they will attach mines to NATO ships and sail to us with valuable information about the location of enemy forces ...
      4. Akulina
        Akulina April 22 2014 14: 50
        +1
        They brought a man, mad dogs .. Lavrov is a clever girl - that’s who the real superman is - and not this American scarecrow in training ...
  4. Verdent
    Verdent April 22 2014 07: 34
    +9
    Arrangements for the West have weight in those cases - when they are beneficial to the West itself, in other cases - they are easily attacked and violated, because someone considers themselves too dofig too great and exceptional for international law and diplomacy.
  5. Chifka
    Chifka April 22 2014 07: 35
    +8
    The Ukrainian government, as always, noticing a speck in the eyes of others, stubbornly does not notice the log in its own backseat. I wanted to write about the eye, but they don’t have much difference in the campaign. The anatomy is like that.
    Maybe they are not out of spite. Maybe a foreign object in such a place is a pleasure, especially if it is periodically stirred by Geneva, performances in the southeast and "polite people". Then you just need to give them the maximum possible pleasure by driving this log up to the tonsils. And seal with molten lead, with a double-headed eagle seal. The only way.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 22 2014 12: 58
      0
      Quote: Chifka
      The Ukrainian government, as always, noticing a speck in the eyes of others, stubbornly does not notice the log in its own backseat. I wanted to write about the eye, but they don’t have much difference in the campaign. The anatomy is like that.
      Maybe they are not out of spite. Maybe a foreign object in such a place is a pleasure, especially if it is periodically stirred by Geneva, performances in the southeast and "polite people". Then you just need to give them the maximum possible pleasure by driving this log up to the tonsils. And seal with molten lead, with a double-headed eagle seal. The only way.

      what are we all the same humane ... and polite ... laughing
  6. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger April 22 2014 07: 38
    +13
    Lavrov in Geneva showed just the aerobatics of diplomacy. It is interesting when it comes to the Naglosaxon gang that they, under the guise of concessions, have entered into conditions that are obviously impracticable for mayduns ...
    1. comprochikos
      comprochikos April 22 2014 09: 58
      +4
      Satisfied conditions or not does not matter, since no one is going to fulfill them from the junta. The West will turn a blind eye to this, and they will demand from the South-East and Russia, although we didn’t take any obligations on ourselves
    2. Dimas1975
      Dimas1975 April 22 2014 23: 46
      0
      Absolutely agree! Lavrov showed really aerobatics! What are his direct negotiations with Kerry, bypassing Ashton and the "acting" ... It is possible that the details of the negotiations are a duck, but something hurts a lot of confirmation. It just very much resembles Gromyko's style. Negotiations - yes, absolutely. Agree - no! Remember - "Mister No" :-)
      By the way, gentlemen, I would like to answer by saying that Churkin "reads from a piece of paper" - carefully watch the videos. He reads speeches, and communicates directly at the Security Council. And it is his expressions in direct speech, not speeches, in my personal opinion, are the most powerful! I hope that our diplomatic school will not end at Lavrov and Churkin !!! Professionalism - at the level of Gonchakov !!!
  7. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 22 2014 07: 38
    +7
    The West in its own way interprets any dog-ry. Libyans will immediately recall * the no-fly zone *, many of which Indians of America can dig. The Entente Treaty, too, the Western Union and did not think to implement. It is necessary to show people of Western countries that their * legal norms * are fiction. More and more people understand this, and confidence in Russia against the background of their countries is growing rapidly. Everything is like in the late USSR, just the opposite.
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 April 22 2014 08: 02
      +4
      Of course, the stone wears away water. But I would like something faster. And then Europe won’t understand in Georgia only after 4 years. The brakes probably.
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  8. Name
    Name April 22 2014 07: 43
    +2
    Hmm, Lavrov, Churkin hi only patience and "the presence of irony" to wish for when "talking" with ALL newcomers.
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 22 2014 07: 46
    +10
    Patience, patience, and again patience. Exhaust the West with your patience, and they will fall. Pierce, panic. Here we will remember everything for them ...
    1. izGOI
      izGOI April 23 2014 06: 25
      +1
      It seems that already many in the West, one thought of Lavrov leads to panic.
  10. thinking
    thinking April 22 2014 07: 47
    +5
    If the next time someone wants to meet again, let him publicly explain the implementation of previous agreements, as he understood them, and what he wants now. And each time a detailed specificity is needed, or they will not be found at all.
    1. AnaBat
      AnaBat April 22 2014 17: 52
      0
      As my boss once taught me, sometimes, in order to solve something, it is necessary to bring the situation to an uproar ... I think that this is already happening in Ukraine ... Insanity grows stronger ...
  11. mig31
    mig31 April 22 2014 07: 48
    +4
    All that Western diplomacy is capable of is deception, utter impotence of sanity ...
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 April 22 2014 08: 12
      +8
      Yes, they deliberately include the fool. Look at how Western representatives behave at any meetings (UN, OSCE, PACE, etc.). Ours speaks, even denounces, but there is a complete zero. They nod their heads or pick at their nails. By the way, I noticed the same behavior when both Assad and Hussein spoke in the same organizations. Situation of the type: "And Vaska listens, but eats." So that public policy is so, dust. Real things are done without asking anyone.
    2. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 23 2014 05: 47
      0
      No, it’s a disregard for everyone and everything. So long as someone doesn’t go on the scoreboard!
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 April 22 2014 07: 52
    +6
    Everything is correct in the article. We must listen to our opponents in the West (we don’t consider their partners to be partners) and calmly do our job, not giving rise to accusations and provocations. They themselves will find reasons, and we must, again, calmly refute and continue to do our own thing.
    Calmness, strong nerves and skills to Lavrov and his team.
  13. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 22 2014 07: 55
    +6
    Moreover, in this case it is necessary to give a damn about the "partners" and bend your line, without making any concessions, anyway, no one will fulfill the agreements reached.
  14. Junior, I
    Junior, I April 22 2014 07: 55
    +2
    Impotence of their brains came with mother’s milk.
    Well, or gave birth to them standing.
    1. ussrex
      ussrex April 22 2014 16: 30
      +1
      Not only that, standing, but also ricocheting against the wall!
  15. shelva
    shelva April 22 2014 07: 55
    +2
    The entire official West is against Russia - they have one "singer". But, thank God, there is an unofficial West that is against globalization, against the deployment of NATO troops in its territories and against the Americanization of Europe. Many of the proponents of the unofficial West are outspoken separatists. May God give them good luck.
  16. varz
    varz April 22 2014 07: 59
    +3
    Everything is simple. America considers the junta, including Bandera, a legitimate authority. No wonder she spent 5 billion. And the East is not part of their plans. Lavrov knows this, but does everything in order not to get to the stage of an armed resolution of the conflict by Russia. The West does not understand that for Russia the Bandera power, no matter who supports them, is unacceptable in principle.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 22 2014 08: 12
      +2
      That's exactly what the West understands that Russia can be destroyed through banderlogs ...
  17. Humpty
    Humpty April 22 2014 08: 03
    +5
    The dialogue with NATO on Ukraine can be continued, especially considering the "practical sense". Only not to Lavrov, you should not distract a person from more important matters. And Zhirinovsky just can be confused on this topic, let him conduct negotiations, he has experience. It was not for nothing that he sat in PACE.
    1. izGOI
      izGOI April 23 2014 06: 30
      0
      Zhirinovsky is possible, but only when Deshchitsu (or whatever) is replaced by Lyashko.
    2. aagolovkov
      aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 45
      0
      Yes, he would have plagued everyone there, he’s a master, and he knows the story)))))))))))))))))
  18. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 22 2014 08: 06
    +2
    Yes, everything is simple and complicated at the same time.
    It is necessary to "constructively" criticize the EU and the US, to put pressure on Kiev, but quietly do what we deem necessary. It would be time to "control" a small section of the border through which to supply the East with everything it needs.
    Develop and organize self-defense forces armed with small arms, not sticks and rifles.
    Develop a plan to isolate and split the forces of "blocking" the insurgent regions of the nationalists with their total extermination, the seizure of equipment and an attack on Kiev with the placement of roadblocks along the Dnieper.
  19. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 22 2014 08: 06
    +3
    Well, in general, the West is not here. If you look at the negotiation process itself, then they communicated, in a serious way, only Lavrov and Kerry, the Ukrainians and the Baroness (EU representative), were left outside the door. And the confrontation is between Russia and the United States. Even not with the administration, but with "money bags". The well-known formula - money rules the world, and America too. A clique of Rhodschilds, Rockefellers and others like them are sitting, and our Foreign Ministry is faced with the task of how to cheat them.
  20. ALTAY2
    ALTAY2 April 22 2014 08: 08
    +3
    She will sing until the fall. Long. But then it gets colder and the voice hoarsens.
    1. aagolovkov
      aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 48
      0
      "winter is coming," as the Starks said. Then they will howl
  21. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 22 2014 08: 09
    +5
    Quote: ALTAY2
    I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.

    And I would do this:
    "A man comes with a machine gun to a UN meeting ..
    Who is Lavrov and Churkin ..?
    Frightened, they poke a finger at them ...
    A man twitches the shutter ..
    Vitaly, Seryoga, bend down .. !!!! "
    laughing am
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 22 2014 08: 38
      0
      Here is the sentence ...
      Better this way:
      "At the press conference Psaki, Nuland, Rice, Kerry, And that of the UN about them shouts" Allah Akbar "and boom. Period. And pintogon at one with the Balim Balim Dom."
      or "At the UN meeting, Churin and Lavrov went out, and the CLIKA of the Westerners gathered and whispered what intrigues to put, and even in detail everything. And this is all whispering about Russia Today and other sources to the whole world on air."
      Or "Obama or his third-rate politicians are lying, and talking and thinking aloud also in Russia Today and other places around the world."
      So let them think later.
    2. aagolovkov
      aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 50
      0
      it’s just a cart .... wanders from topic to topic
  22. smart Fox
    smart Fox April 22 2014 08: 17
    +3
    Americans do not multiply all agreements by zero, they cannot multiply. They divide by zero, not knowing that according to the laws of mathematics it is impossible to divide by zero. Although the laws of mathematics are to them, no laws are written for them at all !!!
  23. mamont5
    mamont5 April 22 2014 08: 30
    +7
    Here they are the desired American cookies. Eat dear Ukrainians. From the heat of the heat, straight from America.
    So you joined the fuse.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 22 2014 08: 40
      +4
      Figas what a bag.
      Looks like they were callous, but the Ukropatriots ate and broke their teeth, thinking "but we are almost in NATO and the EU and they have already begun to feed us for free."
    2. aagolovkov
      aagolovkov April 24 2014 16: 53
      0
      with heat, with Afghanistan)))) There, like amerikosy, they also opened a bakery shop
  24. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 22 2014 08: 35
    +9
    And when the OSCE doesn’t count, one immediately recalls an episode from recent history when the “missionaries” of this organization, who arrived as observers of the US elections, were not even allowed to go to the polling stations. Today, Ukraine has a very similar handwriting, although it’s more than a month before the elections. Whose hand still writes? ..
    That's what .. That's when the Germans, after long negotiations, came to check how their gold is to the US bank ...!:
    1. izGOI
      izGOI April 23 2014 06: 43
      0
      If memory serves, the Chinese had a case when staff members paid with gold plated lead ingots. Here in Portugal, narrow-eyed people made a lot of noise on this subject.
  25. their
    their April 22 2014 08: 37
    0
    We conduct typical diplomacy with the West, and they are already at war with us in the diplomatic field.
  26. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 22 2014 08: 38
    +3
    Our "European and overseas partners" see only what they want to see! An ophthalmologist will not help here! The problem is in the brains! On my own I will add - ... and conscience!
  27. their
    their April 22 2014 08: 42
    +2
    That's how you need to talk to them at the UN today

  28. denchik1977
    denchik1977 April 22 2014 08: 48
    +4
    The results of the talks in Geneva showed the complete unwillingness of the United States to take decisive measures to stabilize the situation in Ukraine, to preserve and further develop the concept of "controlled chaos." The European Union was put on the same level with Ukraine, when several times during the meeting it was together with the latter "outside the door" ..... Russia in negotiations with the United States and Europe in the future must have in reserve and the "power option", because alas, calling for prudence and a sober assessment of the situation is like preaching atheism during the Inquisition ...
    1. sledge
      sledge April 22 2014 09: 32
      +3
      And who doubted the unwillingness of the Americans to stabilize the situation in Ukraine? Ameriza is preparing hard for a serious weakening of the dollar on the world stage.
  29. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 22 2014 08: 52
    +2
    Thanks to the author of the article.
    So that we are not raped in the diplomatic field, we must actively comment on what is happening, using appropriate new thoughts and terms. It would be nice to connect the US media here ...
  30. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 22 2014 09: 01
    +3
    Well add ... Patience, endurance and health to Lavrov and Churkin. They have a battle, it seems like 10 years if not more goes on without a break. Americans and geyropeytsy will yell and spit, distort the facts and put everything upside down. They have such a task - to crush the Slavs in all ways. Therefore, the policy of double standards and the UN - a bunch of clowns (except ours !!!) that do not solve anything at all. They have no conscience, it is absent as a phenomenon, they (Americans and geyropeytsy) are probably genetically modified born and grow immediately without conscience and spiritual education. Let them. The cat survived, but these addicted. All sooner or pozno them all this comes around. By our efforts ...
  31. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 22 2014 09: 11
    +4
    The West of Lavrov has already broken all his teeth. drinks
    1. sledge
      sledge April 22 2014 09: 59
      +5
      Lavrov - Block. Not a single Western politician can compare with him.
      1. dalekiy
        dalekiy April 22 2014 19: 25
        0
        I also liked how the GDP answered about Yulia Vladimirovna. Fine.
        1. Dimas1975
          Dimas1975 April 22 2014 23: 56
          0
          And I liked the phrase Shoigu about a cat (supposedly our presence in the South-East of Ukraine) - It is difficult to look for a black cat where it does not exist. Especially if she is smart and polite !!! :-)
          I can not vouch for the verbatim and authenticity of the quote, but I VERY hope that Sergey Kozhugetovich said just that.
  32. Lyton
    Lyton April 22 2014 09: 14
    +5
    It is necessary for Sergey Viktorovich to smoke less, to take care of himself more, he has no replacement.
    1. Singularist
      Singularist April 22 2014 09: 58
      +4
      You’ll smoke here when you have to deal with such pi ... you have to deal with yourself, sorry for the expression, you don’t sit next to him in the open field.
  33. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 22 2014 09: 38
    +7
    You are right, he smokes very strongly and constantly.
    And there will be no replacement for such a TITAN very soon.
    Quote: Lyton
    It is necessary for Sergey Viktorovich to smoke less, to take care of himself more, he has no replacement.
  34. pallas
    pallas April 22 2014 09: 53
    +2
    Putin, Lavrov and Churkin are the three heroes of Russia, our everything and forever!
  35. Pasus
    Pasus April 22 2014 10: 12
    +2
    Diplomacy is visible only from the Russian side, it is difficult to call the actions of opponents diplomacy, it is more like moving a diesel locomotive toward its goal, sweeping everything in its path.
    In my opinion, the Americans are acting decisively, constantly, aggressively and these bastards, damn it, will achieve their goal in Ukraine if the Southeast in the coming days does not form a legitimate, central, unifying power. Good luck and fortress of spirit to the Southeast!
  36. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 22 2014 10: 33
    +2
    Quote: ALTAY2
    I am amazed at what kind of patience our politicians have. I would have switched to mats.

    Or to strike !!!
  37. pensioner
    pensioner April 22 2014 10: 42
    +7
    Thanks Alexey! hi
    we teach lessons, draw conclusions ...
    -ambiguously. Only now Lavrov urgently needs to quit smoking. His health is no longer his health. This is the property of the republic.
    1. Tanechka-clever
      Tanechka-clever April 22 2014 11: 13
      +2
      "His health is no longer his health. It is already the property of the republic." - very rightly noted.
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  38. mihasik
    mihasik April 22 2014 11: 01
    0
    You just need to get used to it (and Russia, it seems, is getting used to it), and carefully - with your corner of your foot, looking at the sky and whistling an easy melody - move this very zero prepared by the West towards its own (western) interests. This method of modern "diplomacy", which the "partners" are trying to implement in our regard, must be used. If this is a “diplomatic” lesson in the understanding of the United States for Russia, then American “friends” must not forget that we are teaching lessons, drawing conclusions ...

    I agree! But here that excites most of all. Our nature of the policy of Russia depends on the personality of its conduct! Lavrov and Putin are not eternal, and by the appearance of V.V. Putin, it is clearly visible that the man is tired of continuous hemorrhoids. Who will come in their place and how will we live at the same time !? Medvedev or Putin No. 2? For me, God forbid the second.
  39. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 22 2014 11: 09
    +3
    “And it turns out that participation in any agreements with the West on issues of today's Ukraine is nothing more than participation.” - thanks to the author for the article. Everything is correct.
    Tymoshenko is in general already used material of the United States, which they sent for processing - she was warned not to run for president, but she disobeyed and received the "first warning." And others too - political cleansing awaits
    But Russia needs, like the United States — we want to work together to push water in a mortar.
    If the Maidan and the seizure of buildings in Kiev is legal, then why do the impostors in Kiev decide that in the southwest it is not legal. The Ukrainian people of the southeast created their army and governing bodies, which means that everything is legal, but the armed units sent from Kiev - are located on the territory of the southeast illegally - no one invited and did not wait, and therefore Bandera Kiev with its American managers, who are sitting in the SBU - aggressors
  40. andj61
    andj61 April 22 2014 11: 27
    +2
    Quote: shuhartred
    Quote: Vadim12
    I wonder what cigarettes smokes? wink

    Good! We do not smoke such request


    At one time, the UN administration decided to ban smoking in the UN building. S.V. Lavrov, being Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN, sharply opposed this, believing that attendants had no right to set restrictions on diplomats. At the same time, he, as claimed by the representatives of this maintenance staff, specifically began to smoke in any premises, specially smoking them. After this, the rules were changed (Lavrov was supported by other smoking post representatives.), Excluding diplomats from the ban. This episode characterizes Lavrov as a person who, even in the little things, did not allow him to sit on his neck!
    It is very pleasing that in our leadership such people as Putin, Lavrov, Shoigu, Rogozin. More to such!
    Article plus.
  41. Papania
    Papania April 22 2014 11: 35
    0
    And what they expected differently, they are "gentlemen" (those who want to give their word and with the same success take it away, then if it is profitable for them they will remember it). Therefore, I associate this word only in an obscene sense.
  42. MG42
    MG42 April 22 2014 11: 35
    +3
    In Slavyansk, they found 2 bodies with signs of torture, a curfew was imposed in the city, and was also detained by people's militias centurion of female hundreds of Maidan Irma Kratwho was engaged in espionage, an ardent activist is now mowing under an innocent sheep >>
  43. frejaodina
    frejaodina April 22 2014 12: 28
    0
    Just like:
    UN
    http://rutube.ru/video/cab28bd6e497fd8ed39910688c991021/?ref=logo
    Crimea
    http://rutube.ru/video/9ff1868b6e0ed5503da12510a7fc78be/?ref=endroll
  44. Gecko
    Gecko April 22 2014 12: 49
    0
    Double standards or uniform mockery:

    The demonstrators who seized the buildings in Kiev are not like the demonstrators in eastern Ukraine because they have permission from the authorities, said Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland.

    "It is impossible to compare the situation in Kiev, where everything that is still held by the protesters is held in accordance with licenses, with the permission of the government, in agreement with the Rada, or in the presence of an agreement with the owners of the buildings, with what is happening in Eastern Ukraine," Nuland.
  45. papa-billy
    papa-billy April 22 2014 12: 52
    0
    It turns out a strange situation of talking with the deaf. According to the principle "I don't want to hear". Moreover, it is impossible to stop these attempts to shout, because otherwise "the whole world is in dust." Work guys!
  46. Mariya24
    Mariya24 April 22 2014 14: 24
    +1
    In America, there is probably a "virus" that affects the brain and it flows out, this is accompanied by hysteria and accusations throughout Russia. Those two-faced swindlers, how did they get it! A nation that does not exist, is made up of garbage, no history, nothing, not even the language and that altered English, and the holidays sucked from the finger, you have to celebrate something.
  47. Russian20
    Russian20 April 22 2014 14: 24
    +3
    “I don’t know a single cat who was worried about the opinions of mice,” said Rosya the cat, eating mice named Sashka, Evrik and Maidanchik.
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 22 2014 15: 26
    +2
    Well, so we need to act extremely politely. A hundred pravoseks came to the east. Show a couple under the TV cameras, and the rest .... yes, fig knows where they are.)) If we designate our territory and keep it, everything will just bury itself. And p..ezh from the West will now be constant, you have to get used to it. And answer. Raise information about amerovskie camps for the Germans, about the operation "Unthinkable" ... Do not hesitate to show history as it was. And then we are bloody gebnya and rapists, and they are angels ... Yes, if the Russians had moved .. or as many German women as we are told about it, there would be no such garbage in Europe now.
  49. Registrar
    Registrar April 22 2014 15: 30
    0
    Something is quiet in recent days on the "information field" .....
    No matter what happens ....

    Near Belgorod, Ily actively fly ...
    Security officials were advised not to ride behind the cordon ...
    Lavrov is embarrassed by requests for the introduction of troops (why would he remember?).
    And then nervously smokes in the photo .....
    Shoigu recommends not looking for a black cat you know where ...
    The Americans shut up with their sanctions - probably Lavrov showed them a photo
    20 missing, vacationing in the suburbs, at the "recreation center".

    Eh, as if the troops of May 9 from Red Square, as in 1941, will immediately go west.
  50. mackonya
    mackonya April 22 2014 15: 37
    0
    If "armed" people under the guise of peaceful protesters go against the authorities while moving from West to East, then these people are Fighters for "Democracy". If peaceful protesters go against the "power" while moving from East to West, then these people are Separatists. Unfortunately, this is the logic of the State. dep and "Kiev power"